The Ultimate Midwest Airplane #160

Summary

Bellied Up Podcast Summary: The Ultimate Midwest Airplane #160

Episode Information

• Title: Bellied Up - The Ultimate Midwest Airplane #160
• Hosts: Charlie Barrons & Miles (You Betcha Guy)
• Release Date: July 17, 2025
• Description: Join Emmy-winning comedian Charlie Berens and Miles, the You Betcha Guy, as they engage with live callers from the Midwest and beyond. Each episode offers unique comedic insights, problem-solving, and a place for listeners to share their stories or sell their ideas.

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1. Introduction and Bathroom Wall Prank

[00:00-05:22]

The episode kicks off with Charlie Barrons and Miles discussing the unfiltered charm of a dive bar, highlighting the authentic ambiance represented by untouched bathroom wall writings. Charlie remarks, “A good dive bar is they don’t cover up the writing on the wall in the bathrooms. They don’t waste their time. It’s part of the ambiance” ([00:32]).

Miles shares his discovery: “It said send pics of your shit” along with a phone number ([00:45]). The hosts delve into the humor and possible implications of such a prank, speculating humorously about the origin of the message and its potential consequences. Charlie humorously muses, “You know there are plenty of fellas out there who have taken a picture of a real good shit and have just been waiting for this moment” ([02:21]).

They contemplate calling the number to address the prank but decide against it, acknowledging the prank’s awkwardness: “We will ask” ([02:41]). The segment concludes with reflections on what constitutes positive bathroom graffiti, leading to the introduction of a new segment, “The Writing on the Wall,” encouraging listeners to share their best bathroom wall messages ([07:36]).

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2. Caleb's Call: Building an Experimental Airplane

[07:54-58:35]

a. Project Overview

Caleb joins the show to discuss his ambitious project of building an experimental aluminum airplane with a 31-foot wingspan, seating four people, and a thousand-mile range. Charlie initiates the conversation: “We hear you are trying to make an airplane, is that correct?” ([07:58]).

b. Cost and Funding

The hosts probe into the financial aspects, with Caleb revealing a budget of approximately $250,000: “I'm hoping to have it done for about 250, all said and done” ([11:04]). Charlie jokes about the cost, hinting at familial concerns: “I notice you're avoiding telling me the price tag. Is your wife going to listen to this?” ([10:30]).

c. Safety Concerns

Discussion shifts to airplane safety, with listeners expressing concerns about increased airplane mishaps. Caleb reassures them by emphasizing the rigorous safety measures in place: “Airplanes are safer than they've ever been” ([13:33]). However, Charlie interjects data highlighting an uptick in incidents for 2025, adding comedic skepticism: “It says year deaths, number of instances, 2024. There were 30 deaths. 416 instances. As of 2025, there's 122 deaths” ([13:37]).

Caleb explains that increased publicity and social media awareness contribute to the perception of rising issues, while also noting the continued improvement in safety: “There have been fewer and fewer crashes every year” ([12:27]).

d. Customization and Features

The conversation becomes a humorous brainstorming session on customizable features for Caleb's airplane. Miles suggests practical additions like more cup holders, while Charlie introduces absurd ideas such as converting seats into coolers and adding a grill station: “Put the whole cooking station set up” ([24:27]).

Caleb discusses the feasibility of incorporating these features without compromising the airplane's functionality, leading to lighthearted banter about unconventional modifications like float planes and parachutes: “They do, but when you deploy them, you destroy the whole airplane” ([20:53]).

The hosts continue to riff on inventive and comedic ideas, including a cornhole game on the wings and integrating a fish finder for fishing excursions: “You need a seat on a gyroscope” ([29:28]).

Caleb provides insights into his background as a certified aircraft mechanic, assuring listeners of his expertise: “I'm also a certified aircraft mechanic” ([15:40]).

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3. Voicemail Segment: Deegan's Thermostat Troubles

[60:00-58:35]

In a humorous twist, the hosts receive a voicemail from Deegan, who struggles with his over-enthusiastic father's high thermostat settings. Charlie begins the interaction: “What's going on, Nick, we called you twice” ([42:47]).

Deegan explains his predicament of dealing with an 80°F thermostat in a warehouse environment, leading to playful advice on managing bathroom break perceptions and workplace frustrations: “You're wasting time on the toilet” ([56:24]).

Miles offers comedic solutions, suggesting Deegan find a job or start investing: “You need to get a job and move out” ([60:37]). The hosts continue to entertain Deegan with light-hearted mock therapy, addressing his discomfort and relationship dynamics with his father.

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4. Conclusion and Final Humor

[58:35-64:36]

The episode wraps up with reflections on the diverse topics covered, from prank messages to experimental aviation and workplace bathroom woes. Charlie closes with well-wishes for Caleb’s aviation endeavors: “You have fun out there in those skies and let us know how it goes when you're done with your airplane” ([40:34]).

The hosts engage in final jokes about the unpredictability of hobbies and humorous banter about personal hygiene and relationship quirks, ensuring listeners are entertained until the very end.

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Notable Quotes

• Charlie Barrons: “A good dive bar is they don’t cover up the writing on the wall in the bathrooms. They don’t waste their time. It’s part of the ambiance” ([00:32]).

• Miles: “It said send pics of your shit” ([00:45]).

• Caleb: “I'm hoping to have it done for about 250, all said and done” ([11:04]).

• Charlie Barrons: “Airplanes are safer than they've ever been” ([13:33]).

• Miles: “You wanna know how you know he doesn’t. You know, he’s not locked down” ([02:08]).

• Charlie Barrons: “It’d be a great marketing campaign during Halloween for an electrical company” ([04:53]).

• Miles: “Do it on a plane? Like, you have to have a long enough tow rope” ([27:50]).

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Episode Highlights:

• Humorous Exploration of Bathroom Pranks: The hosts engage in witty discussions about prank messages in bar bathrooms, blending observational humor with playful speculation.

• In-Depth Conversation with an Aspiring Aviator: Caleb’s ambitious project of building a custom experimental airplane serves as a focal point, with the hosts providing both serious insights and comedic suggestions for features and safety.

• Relatable Workplace Anecdotes: Deegan’s voicemail offers a humorous take on common workplace frustrations, particularly around personal spaces like bathrooms, resonating with many listeners.

• Engaging Comedic Banter: Throughout the episode, Charlie and Miles maintain a lively and entertaining dialogue, ensuring a balanced mix of humor, practical advice, and relatable content.

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Conclusion

“The Ultimate Midwest Airplane #160” episode of Bellied Up masterfully combines humor with real-life stories, offering listeners both laughs and thoughtful discussions. Whether it’s tackling quirky bathroom pranks or delving into the complexities of building a personal aircraft, Charlie Berens and Miles deliver an engaging and memorable episode that resonates with their Midwest audience and beyond.

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Transcript

[Charlie Barrons]

Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of the Bellied Up. My name is Charlie Barrons. I'm here with Miles, the you bet you guy. We're having fun here. It's a good time. It's 1:10 in the afternoon. We are bellied up to the bar. We are here to take your calls. Chit chat with you. See what's happening. I'm excited, Miles. And you know, you know how you know a good. A good dive bar is they don't cover up the writing on the wall in the bathrooms. They don't waste their time. It's part of the. It's part of the ambian. It's part of the experience.

[Miles]

So you saw what I saw in the bathroom, too.

[Charlie Barrons]

Did you see it?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

What is.

[Miles]

I believe the writing on the wall. This is the writing on the wall for us, Charlie.

[Charlie Barrons]

Glad that we both saw this.

[Miles]

It said send you send pics of your shit.

[Charlie Barrons]

And then it had a phone number.

[Miles]

And also.

[Charlie Barrons]

Also they meant. Why. Why wouldn't you say send shit pics?

[Miles]

Yeah, you get the. You get the alliteration, you know, Shorter, easier to comprehend. That is diabolical. So some guy put his buddy's phone number on the wall and told him to send pictures of people's poop also. And like, that's way worse than call for a good time.

[Charlie Barrons]

Right? Right.

[Miles]

Because call for a good time, they may just be like, hey, what are you doing? But you're just getting photos of people's shit directly to your phone.

[Charlie Barrons]

You know that there are plenty of fellas out there who have taken a picture of a real good shit and have just been waiting for this moment. I have a friend who's done that. I have a friend who has a collection of his. He might do videos with me fairly often.

[Miles]

Jesus.

[Charlie Barrons]

He might be our bartender on Bellied Up Live.

[Caleb]

Oh, really?

[Charlie Barrons]

Deuce?

[Miles]

He lives up to the name, I suppose.

[Charlie Barrons]

He's got a whole folder on his phone. I wonder how many people have actually sent.

[Miles]

I mean, that. Is that you. That's classic, your single buddy behavior.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You want to know how you know he doesn't. You know, he's not locked down is because he has a folder on his phone of all of his. It's like, what is your single friend doing on a Tuesday evening? He's taking photos of his.

[Charlie Barrons]

He's got a collection.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, that's. That would suck to be that phone number.

[Charlie Barrons]

It would. I wonder what it's like, you know, to like, have that number on the wall and. Yeah, okay, let's just. Let's just call them and we'll see if they want us to take the number down. Yeah, okay, but we'll ask.

[Miles]

We will ask.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. They're going to hang up immediately.

[Miles]

Colin, you take this. I'm nervous.

[Caleb]

Dude.

[Charlie Barrons]

They put someone.

[Miles]

Poor, poor lady.

[Charlie Barrons]

Poor woman. What did.

[Miles]

I was fully expecting a college. Dude, they put someone's aunt on there.

[Charlie Barrons]

What did this woman do to deserve that? She must have someone's aunt or someone's 8th grade teacher. It's one or the other. Oh, that is unfortunate.

[Miles]

Oh, man, we should have left a voice. I'll be honest, my heart rate is. I see. This is why, you know, like, there's prank YouTubers out there.

[Charlie Barrons]

I'm not.

[Miles]

I couldn't do it. I couldn't feel too bad.

[Charlie Barrons]

I was upset when you turned your mic off. I thought you were going to take the wheel on this one. Anyways, guys, don't do that. Don't do that to someone else. Actually, if it's your buddy, do it to your buddy. Don't do it to. I wonder what she did though.

[Miles]

She had to do something.

[Charlie Barrons]

She had to have done something.

[Miles]

Yeah, I just can't think of many things worse. Would you rather get unsolicited dick pics from that or unsolicited shit pics from the bathroom? Dick pics?

[Charlie Barrons]

For sure. Yeah. I mean, I'm not like into, but I can admire, you know, I can admire a nice.

[Miles]

Yeah. So whatever you guys do, if you're listening, is do not go to your local bar and put that on the wall with your buddy's phone number. Don't do that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Miles. Look, it's a pumpkin. Check it out. Like, that's how I'm gonna carve my pumpkin. Isn't that great? It looks like a little pumpkin, doesn't it?

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah, it does.

[Charlie Barrons]

Are you upset that I brought this up?

[Miles]

No, no, no, no.

[Charlie Barrons]

Was I being too. I mean, we're talking about shitpicks on bathroom wall. I can't like change the subject.

[Miles]

It's actually kind of funny if you're an electrician to just carve your pumpkin to make it look like an outlet, you know?

[Charlie Barrons]

That's great.

[Miles]

That's great.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

It's actually a great marketing campaign during Halloween for. For an electrical company.

[Charlie Barrons]

Should we do a billboard this Halloween and just set it and put. Put her number on it, you know, because we would change it up, you know, you're getting shit pictures. We gotta flood the zone with something else, you know? Anyways, just thoughts. Just thoughts. Well, what do you think you want? Hey, we were a little negative with stuff to put on your bathroom wall there. That didn't go the way we want to do. What's something you appreciate seeing on a bathroom wall?

[Miles]

I like it when people are interacting with each other. So one guy leaves a note and then someone else responds, and then another person responds, even if it's mean to each other. I just like that camaraderie. The guys are talking through the bathroom wall.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, it's kind of like the original Twitter thread, you know, it's true.

[Miles]

And then I gotta start writing retweet next to stuff on the bathroom wall.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or do a little thumbs up next to it. Yeah. There is one thing written right over the urinal. It says, go, go, exclamation point, exclamation point. And in the middle, the. The drywall is chipped away. So we're in Chicago. Someone obviously wrote, go pack, go. And then.

[Miles]

So I like that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Next piss I gotta take. I'm gonna refill in.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

What was taken down?

[Miles]

Yeah. What do you think? Are I. I wouldn't know, but are girls writing stuff on the bathroom walls in there?

[Charlie Barrons]

I've heard. I've actually talked to some women. Women, Believe it or not, dude, I've.

[Miles]

Talked to a woman.

[Charlie Barrons]

Not to brag. I've had some chit chats with some members of the opposite sex and they say that what's on the bathroom wall. Actually I was talking to Randa about this and she said that it's very uplifting. Really? Yeah, it's like you go girl.

[Miles]

Like you got push harder, you know, grip that toilet seat.

[Charlie Barrons]

No, it's not potty humor, Miles. It's more like you get it. He's not worth you, you know.

[Miles]

Really?

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, it's like, it's very affirmation, very self helpy stuff. Why don't you go check it out right now? No one's in there. I'll guard the door.

[Miles]

I walk in, you're standing there. As soon as the door closes, you walk away and just be like, yeah, it's open.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, but I've heard. Ladies, maybe this is a call out. We want to know what's on your bathroom.

[Miles]

Yas queen slay. Yeah, stuff like that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Actually, this would be, this would be a great thing. We should ask you. You guys, if you guys see some good stuff written on a bathroom wall, guys or gals, send it up over to us. Tweet us at bellied up. We'll. We'll retweet it.

[Miles]

That's our new segment. The writing on the wall.

[Charlie Barrons]

The writing on the wall. Yeah. We want, we want to know the best things you've seen on the bathroom wall. That's what we wanted.

[Miles]

We want sending them to, sending them into the Instagram account.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. We want to bring it to light.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, well, should we take some callers, Miles?

[Miles]

We should.

[Charlie Barrons]

Charlie, let's do it. Caleb, how you doing?

[Caleb]

Good. How you guys doing?

[Charlie Barrons]

Good. Welcome to the Bellied up podcast. We hear you are trying to make an airplane, is that correct?

[Caleb]

That would be correct, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Crazy bastard. Caleb, you're going to explain make it.

[Miles]

Yeah, to explain.

[Charlie Barrons]

That's one thing that I would want factory settings on.

[Caleb]

So, you know, it's actually pretty common. I mean, you got, I mean, Charlie, right?

[Miles]

I love, like if you are in the industry, it's pretty common.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Caleb]

Well, you guys are up near the area of Oshkosh, right, with the EAA there.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, that's the experimental airplane show. They have it every year. People die every year from some kind of mess up on the personal airplane. The wild thing about making your own airplane is you're not only risking your life, but everybody below use life to do it.

[Caleb]

But no, it is, you know, there's a risk.

[Charlie Barrons]

It's a cool show though. I mean they have some really wild planes there every year. People should check that out if they can.

[Miles]

But go on, do tell what's going on. So it's a, it's a common thing to build your own airplane.

[Caleb]

Well, I mean, you have, you have a couple different options and the experimental kind of opens up to, you know, everything from, from straight wooden fabric airplanes to aluminum to composites. And so what I'm putting together is a aluminum airplane, 31 foot wingspan. When it's all said and done, it'll have seat four people, have about a thousand mile range and just be a good thing to cruise around and go on some vacations with. Wow.

[Miles]

Okay, so you have three people that are willing to risk their life to go in your airplane.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, he's got three seats.

[Caleb]

I've got it. I've got a waiting list. Yeah, you know, when it's done here in a few years, I got some people here who are itching to get up and go.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay, all right. How much does it cost to make an airplane like that?

[Caleb]

It's not the cheapest hobby in the world, but you have all different, all different ranges depending on how much work you want to put into it. So if you want, if you want an Airplane that's pretty much already built. You're just kind of bolting together the last couple of pieces. You're going to pay a pretty penny for that. But if you're gonna go the other end of the spectrum and all you get is a set of plans and you're doing everything from scratch, it can actually be pretty cheap. Cheaper than a. Cheaper than a new car.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, so we're talking like, what, 25, 30 grand? I notice you're avoiding telling me the price tag. Is your wife going to listen to this?

[Caleb]

No, no, I'm single, so I'm not.

[Miles]

Adds up. No, no. Married guy is getting the green light on building his own airplane for 30,000.

[Caleb]

No, I mean, I'm hoping to have it done for about 250, all said and done.

[Charlie Barrons]

$250,000?

[Caleb]

Yeah, yeah, pretty much.

[Charlie Barrons]

Are you going to be like flying to Columbia with that thing? How are you.

[Miles]

Are you going to get a roi?

[Caleb]

It could be an option.

[Charlie Barrons]

How are you funding this, man? What do you do?

[Caleb]

Well, I work in manufacturing, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, you work in manufacturing. The way you just said that, it sounds like you work for the mafia. What. What do you do in manufacturing that you're.

[Caleb]

No, I run a. I run a manufacturing team that makes parts for turbine engines for airplanes.

[Miles]

Okay, all right, that helps. That helps the situation.

[Charlie Barrons]

Boeing airplanes.

[Caleb]

Some. Some of the engines go there. Yeah. Go there. Some of. It's about half commercial, half military.

[Miles]

All right, I got a question unrelated to your airplane about the airplane industry. And this may upset you, it may not. But there's a lot of murmurs on the Internet talking about how it seems like airport airplanes have more issues with them today. There's more breakdowns. There seems to be more mishaps and negligence and more plain problems these days. Is it because we have more plane problems or is it because we have social media? So we find out about every single time there's an airplane with a mishap.

[Caleb]

Yeah, it's definitely just more publicized. I mean, if you, if you run the numbers. I mean, every accident's recorded, and so if you run the numbers from both commercial and then, you know, private aviation, there have been fewer and fewer crashes every year. Fewer and fewer incidences, Runway incursions, take your pick. Fewer and fewer instances each year. Just, you know, our news cycle here is pretty, pretty active. And once you get one, you know, we talk about airplanes for a few months and then it'll go away for a while and then get real popular again. So people are just more interested in now I guess.

[Miles]

Yeah. Okay. That was my hunch. You know, you wouldn't think with all the regulations around airplanes that it would be giving. Becoming less safe. So just. Why it's good to know.

[Caleb]

I mean, good the amount of safety checks and all the paperwork and certifications that all the individual parts go through and then the assemblies and then the airplanes themselves. Airplanes are safer than they've ever been.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, well, hang on, hang on just a second.

[Miles]

Journalist barons over here would come up with something doing a little googling.

[Charlie Barrons]

And it says year deaths, number of instances, 2024. There were 30 deaths. 416 instances. As of 2025, there's 122 deaths. That's the most deaths since 2019. And 360 incidents. That's as of June 12th. So looks like 2025 has not been a great year for airline instances. Still relatively small percentage, I'll give you that. But it does seem like there's an uptick in the rise of at least the.

[Caleb]

That just means we have to have a strong second half.

[Miles]

Not going to lie, they had us in the first half. A good halftime speech.

[Charlie Barrons]

You know, Regro, guys, let's not put it in the dirt this time.

[Miles]

Let's not forget to put the landing gear this half.

[Caleb]

When do they make sure all the tires are inflated?

[Charlie Barrons]

What's the biggest problem relating to these crashes? What's the thing that goes wrong the most? Is it mechanical failure? Is it pilot failure? What is it?

[Caleb]

I mean, it's a tough question because each one's going to be a little bit different. And I honestly haven't done too much research into the causes of these.

[Miles]

You might want to do some research if you're going to fly your own plane. Learn from other people's mistakes, though.

[Caleb]

Oh, I mean, part of it. I mean, that's part. Also the experience of building your own is, you know, I'm going to have, I'm going to have physically touched and worked on every, every square inch of this airplane. So I know this, this thing inside now it's going to be put together correctly. There's not going to be any flaws. So I'm just going to let them fix them right away because I know I'm the only one flying it.

[Miles]

That's.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, yeah. Is this your first airplane that you've built?

[Caleb]

Yeah, I mean, it's, it's. I've been working on it for a couple years. I still probably have about six, seven years left to go on it. And yes, this is gonna be my first one, but I Am a. I'm also a certified aircraft mechanic. So I have worked on general aviation planes. Just. This will be the first one I'm building myself.

[Charlie Barrons]

I like it. Yeah, you, you get, get your reps in when someone else is flying in that thing. That would be my.

[Caleb]

I'll tell you what, it's, it's. It's scary seeing some of the things that are out there that some of the private owners try to do and sneak through. Then you catch them in inspections.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh really?

[Miles]

Yeah, like, like, like gutting the airplane and filling it with drugs.

[Caleb]

You know they try to tend to remove those prior to inspection but you know, you never know what you find.

[Charlie Barrons]

What's the wildest thing you've seen in an expect in an inspection?

[Caleb]

I've seen, you know, tools left over from the previous guy, which is never a good thing.

[Charlie Barrons]

Like they left tool in the engine or something like that floating around inside the wings.

[Caleb]

Screwdriver in the wing.

[Miles]

What's that clinking going on out there?

[Caleb]

You know, a garden hose used for some conduit and stuff like that.

[Miles]

And then there's a, there's a lake cabin on our lake where one of the guys was DIY finishing the cabin and the plumbing he used. Underneath the cabin. He used a garden hose. Are you serious?

[Caleb]

Yep.

[Charlie Barrons]

That's like when I popped open the hood on my Volkswagen Rabbit and there's a bungee cord holding, you know.

[Miles]

Ye. That's. They're next to my parents cabin and we didn't have the heart to tell them about all the problems that the guy, the previous owner.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, you didn't warn. Well, you should have an inspector do that.

[Miles]

Correct. And I think what they told us was that the inspector came in the winter and so he didn't like get underneath the house. They did find the garden hose later.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, hopefully you got a good deal on it.

[Miles]

I don't think they did.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right. All right. Well, okay. So you're building your own airplane. What's your question with your. Your airplane then?

[Caleb]

So one of the, one of the beauties of building an experimental is that you get to pretty much customize it to what you want. And just looking for some of your guys insights if I want to, you know, be traveling around the Midwest and showing off some of the great aspects of the country there. What Midwestern things and accessories can I throw on this airplane?

[Miles]

Oh, you're nice. You gotta put more cup holders.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, yeah.

[Miles]

And that's. No one's ever bought a car and been like God, I hate how many cup Holders are in this thing. Yeah, it's always. Where are all the cup holders?

[Charlie Barrons]

Right. But do not drink beer in that airplane. You don't want to get a. Got it. Got it.

[Caleb]

It's kind of hard to pull over up there.

[Charlie Barrons]

Ye, that's true. Yeah. How do you get pulled over? Are there police airplanes?

[Caleb]

No, you just. They wait till you land and then they, then they tend to yell at you once you stop the airplane.

[Charlie Barrons]

Can you get a ticket for like flying erratically or something? Do you. Is there a.

[Caleb]

Yes. Well, so if you're doing things you're not supposed to be doing up there, the FAA can start, they can suspend your, your license, they can take away your ability to fly, things like that. And yeah, you can get some fines. Okay. But I'd say the real cops up there is if you try flying in any kind of restricted airspace. Oh, yeah. And you get, you know, pair of F16s line up right next to you. That's you can get your indication that you need to leave.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

You get Maverick and Goose on your ass. Well, Maverick anyway.

[Miles]

Jesus. Spoiler alert.

[Charlie Barrons]

Rest in peace.

[Miles]

Hey, spoiler alert.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, I know. Well, I've 84. If you haven't seen it yet, that's your own issue. Can you paint your. Can you.

[Miles]

Yeah, we're already on to Rooster. Yeah, now we're doing Rooster.

[Charlie Barrons]

What a smoke show that guy was though, Seriously. Hey, can you paint your plane like a duck?

[Caleb]

Oh, there we go.

[Charlie Barrons]

I mean, I'd say red breasted merganser, but mallard is more common, you know, so you could, you could do that. Or a goose.

[Miles]

I could do.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, no, we're bringing back goose into this. Yeah, it's bad. Or just have a parachute in it if you paint it like a goose and make sure you get enough clearance on the thing. Yeah. Do you have any parachutes or anything? Because in the Midwest, especially when we do a diy, we at least know that we're going to screw some stuff up. So can you put a parachute on this plane just in case?

[Caleb]

So we talking like small personal parachutes. You strapped your back. Are we talking like a really big one for the plane?

[Charlie Barrons]

Really big one. Really big one for the plane. Do they make those?

[Caleb]

They do, actually.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, sick. Just put one on. They do, but.

[Caleb]

But they. When you deploy them, you destroy the whole airplane to do that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, you still got good metal.

[Miles]

It's either that or you destroy the whole airplane when you crash.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, yeah. I don't know if you know this.

[Miles]

I think you're too Worried about the airplane at this. If you're even thinking about deploying.

[Caleb]

I'm less. I'm less worried about the. You know, if I crash, I'm less worried about personal safety as I'm more worried about my reputation as a mechanic.

[Charlie Barrons]

I would be more worried about personal safety. About that. Yeah. Yeah. I think he'll get over that. Have you ever crashed an airplane?

[Caleb]

No, I have not.

[Charlie Barrons]

I was in. I was doing some work in Los Angeles the day that Harrison Ford crashed his airplane on the golf course.

[Miles]

So you've. You've never even been close to one?

[Charlie Barrons]

No, I got real close to the airplane. I went and took a picture. I walked up real close. That dude's crashed, like, three airplanes and a helicopter. Yeah. Isn't that wild?

[Miles]

Well, it's not the Millennium Falcon, buddy. You know?

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Is that what he told them? Yeah. Cool it solo, all right? You're not in space. There's atmosphere here.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right?

[Miles]

It's about time. Maybe you hand in your leather vest and wings. Just let the real pilots do it, you know? And get your hairy friend out of here. He's breathing on me.

[Charlie Barrons]

I can't even do it. I can't even do a chewy impression. Somebody can, all right?

[Miles]

And why is your buddy always kissing his sister? It's fucking weird.

[Charlie Barrons]

He didn't know. He didn't know.

[Miles]

With all due respect, Mr. Ford.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, so we got cup holders. We got cup holders. We got. We got a good painting job. What state are you living in right now? Where are you from?

[Caleb]

So I'm originally from Indiana, but I spent the last few years living in Connecticut.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. Indiana. Well, we gotta give something for Indiana.

[Miles]

Yeah, Just paint it. Do the red and white stripes for the Hoosier pants.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, there you go.

[Caleb]

I can't do that. I'm a pretty boilermaker.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh.

[Miles]

One of those deals. Okay.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

So paint it blue like the sky. It'll be sky camo, you know?

[Miles]

Yeah. Paint it like the wallpaper in Toy Story.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You got a friend in me. You got a friend in me.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right. All right.

[Caleb]

Well, there we go.

[Miles]

People don't think about how sexual those lyrics are for that song.

[Charlie Barrons]

I've never thought about how sexual those lyrics are. It's a toy.

[Caleb]

Yeah. I mean, when I tend to think of children's shows, I don't tend to go that direction.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, but his name is Woody.

[Miles]

Well, you know that. His name's Woody. And the theme song is you Got A Friend in Me.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh.

[Miles]

So I'm just.

[Charlie Barrons]

Just saying there's a snake in my.

[Miles]

Yeah, exactly.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. All right. Well, you got a friend in me.

[Miles]

We finally got him to laugh. There we go, Charlie.

[Charlie Barrons]

Locked and loaded.

[Miles]

All right, so you got a duck. You got a duck plane.

[Charlie Barrons]

Can you put a grill in?

[Caleb]

No.

[Charlie Barrons]

Carbon monoxide poisoning. That wouldn't be good.

[Caleb]

We just gotta have some good venting, that's all.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. Put a grill in there, man. Get yourself maybe a little George Foreman just to avoid the carbon monoxide situation altogether. But you do want to vent it out there. So maybe kill the two back seats and have that be your grill. Yeah, your grill station.

[Caleb]

Oh, we could definitely do that. Put a little, you know, keep a little mini fridge in there, too. And the whole cooking station set up.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, and definitely, definitely make it a pontoon boat or a pontoon plane. Put the.

[Caleb]

Put the skis on it.

[Charlie Barrons]

Put some skis on where those call. Are they called skis, like those planes that land on floater. Yeah, make it a float plane, because that way you can do a little fishing, you know, you can. You can go.

[Miles]

Yeah, you control walleye. Ah, damn it. My line's caught in the propeller again.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, I see.

[Caleb]

I don't think the. The big. The big noise would scare all that fish away.

[Charlie Barrons]

No, they. They're.

[Miles]

I saw a meme, actually. It was like my dad was lying when he said if I was talking too loud, it'd scare the fish away. He just wanted me to shut the up.

[Caleb]

Yeah. They still tell you that?

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Now, he just doesn't talk, my dad. You find that out the older your dad gets, the less he talks. Yeah, it's like every year, it's just minuses a who, you know, 15 minutes of talking off his day, and now he's just got none left.

[Charlie Barrons]

My dad just kind of makes sounds like he'll do this. Just like he'll exhale loudly, too. In church when the homily is happening, he'll just be like, oh, just. That's the only thing you can hear during the homily. It's great.

[Caleb]

And you can translate all those grunts, right?

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah. I know it. I know it.

[Miles]

Well, the other weekend, I went up to my dad and I told him this thing, and he just sat there and looked at me and looked at me to the point where I just said, good talk, and walked away.

[Caleb]

And he was perfect.

[Miles]

Do I have to bully my dad into talking to me?

[Charlie Barrons]

I like it, bud. Tell him I say hi. Oh, put a trailer hitch on the plane. You need that. You never know when you're going to be going on a long trip, actually.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

And, you know, you're going to have to. To take some extra stuff that can't fit. You don't have enough space in the only four seats. You know what if you want to take a boat with your.

[Miles]

Do they make a U haul with wings on it? Because you could just pull that behind.

[Caleb]

Oh, I think that. I think that's the opportunity for a new. A new. New purchase. Yeah.

[Miles]

This is experimental situation experiment with a trailer. Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Do you guys remember that cartoon? This was back when I was a kid.

[Miles]

So you.

[Charlie Barrons]

You guys might not know this. This is ancient history, but there was a cartoon called I think your tails or something. But DuckTales. Was it DuckTales? So DuckTales. Is that where they had a plane and they were, like, wakeboarding behind the plane?

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Can you do that on a plane? Like, if you had a tow rope and, like, a deal, could, like, you surf behind the plane with, like, you know, skiing or. Yeah, kind of like a wakeboard or skis behind a plane? Can you do that?

[Caleb]

I think you. I bet you probably could. You've got to have a long enough tow rope.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, let's do that.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, let's add one of those.

[Miles]

Well, then it's smart. Like, you know, it's all about how you can. When you own an airplane, it's like you rent it out. When you're not using it to get your money's worth, you could start renting it out to resorts on the lake and they can go skiing behind it.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Caleb]

Well, so that's the one thing with experimentals. You actually can't operate it for a profit, so you can't.

[Miles]

Oh, sounds like a great charter and things like that.

[Caleb]

It's strictly a recreational vehicle.

[Miles]

Are you filing any patents on the stuff you create?

[Caleb]

No. So all of the, like, I'm building this to a set of plans bay out of a company out of Oregon who ends up sending me. So they have a set of plans on how to build everything, and then in sections, I'll order, you know, a crate of aluminum and crate of. Crate of parts, and they'll send them out. I'll put those together. Then when I need new parts, I'll order some more for them. So this, the whole. The main design has already been proven out. There's about a thousand of these specific models flying around. I just then get to customize on top of that.

[Miles]

All right, so you got cup holders, a grill, a slick paint job. A trailer hitch and a tow rope.

[Charlie Barrons]

We're doing pretty good.

[Miles]

Doing pretty good.

[Charlie Barrons]

Put a fish finder on it for when you're fishing, you know, and also like a duck finder, turkey finder, deer finder. You kind of want to mark these things as you go, so I don't know if they even have those things, but start with the fish finder.

[Caleb]

Do some scouting. Well, I mean, there's those. There's those airplanes that they use to go try to find submarines out in the water. I'm betting those would work just fine finding fish.

[Miles]

It's true.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Get yourself one of those.

[Miles]

I got another good idea, Charlie.

[Charlie Barrons]

What's that?

[Miles]

You need a seat on a gyroscope.

[Charlie Barrons]

A seat on a gyroscope.

[Miles]

If I know anything about smaller planes is turbulence can get pretty hefty, especially if you're not flying too high in the air. And I once flew on a little prop plane from Fargo to Duluth, and by the end, I was ready to throw up from motion sickness. Yeah, really, it was. It was a toe curling experience.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, my gosh.

[Caleb]

Yeah. I mean, they're just like boats. The smaller they are, the more they're going to get pushed around.

[Miles]

Correct. So why don't airplanes have seats that are in a gimbal of some sort that don't move with the plane, but keep you on plane?

[Charlie Barrons]

That's actually a really good idea.

[Caleb]

I think most of that's going to go into. In the weight. Everything you put on there, you know, it weighs. You know, weighs a certain amount that you're trying to fight just to keep up in the air. And so all that stuff adds extra weight to the plane. Plus, you're just asking for something else to break.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, that's true. Okay. Well, I guess.

[Miles]

Just saying, I feel like people would enjoy flying more if there was a gimbal of some sort keeping them from getting motion sick. But that's just me.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, I'll tell you this. I'll tell you this. You're going to want to have those windows. You put the hand crank on the windows so you're able to ratchet straps, stuff to the top of the.

[Caleb]

To the top. Put a roof rack on the top.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Yep.

[Caleb]

You need definitely do that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. Do you have a gun rack?

[Caleb]

No, not yet.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, put it.

[Caleb]

Not yet.

[Charlie Barrons]

Put it in. Yep. You're gonna want to take that sucker deer hunting.

[Caleb]

You're probably gonna want to land first, though, before we try to hunt anything, right?

[Miles]

Not if you're hunting hogs in Arkansas.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah, they Just do that aerially.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Almost sounded like Ariola. Oh, that's what you could name the plane, though.

[Miles]

Ariola.

[Charlie Barrons]

That's fun. Play on words. Air.

[Miles]

What's the paint job look like? The very front of the plane's pink, and the rest is tan or what?

[Charlie Barrons]

I didn't say any colors, Miles. I didn't see any colors. I'm not going there. I will say this sounds like an incredible opportunity you have here. Let's see here. What else, Miles? What else can you put on?

[Miles]

So it sounds like there's, you know, you say experimental, but there's a thousand of these planes flying around, and so you need to differentiate. And I really think the paint job is going to be the thing. Is it going to be your wild.

[Caleb]

Paint jobs out there?

[Charlie Barrons]

For sure.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You got to build the brand through the paint job.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Are you a Colts fan?

[Caleb]

I'm not much of a football fan. I'm more of a college basketball and baseball fan.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah. Okay. All right.

[Miles]

Yeah. Boilermaker.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, I know what you can do. You should have each of the wings.

[Miles]

How.

[Charlie Barrons]

How many feet are the wings?

[Caleb]

Is each wing 31 foot wingspan? So each.

[Charlie Barrons]

30.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Total. Perfect. Each one. You can have a cornhole deal on it. You can play cornhole on each wing.

[Miles]

So you're throwing across the wings and then.

[Caleb]

And so. So then the hole. Just put it all the way through the wing. So when it falls through, it falls all the way down.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, you could. You could. That's not. Yeah, put. I. I mean, if you can, engineering wise, put a hole in the wing. Absolutely. Oh, and then you don't even need the board. Yeah. Drill a couple holes in those wings.

[Caleb]

Oh, there's our. I mean, there's already gonna be inspection holes in the plane, so.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, just make a little wider.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, perfect. Also, then you. In the winter. Okay, here you need to put a tube.

[Caleb]

You're thinking I efficient.

[Charlie Barrons]

I am. But that. Don't put that on the wing. You want a tuber in the actual cabin. So put a hole right underneath.

[Miles]

Yeah. And then under each seat.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. And keep some of that aluminum. Make a tube out of it. That tube will stretch from your seat to the ey. Okay.

[Miles]

The light out.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Does that make sense? Do I need to draw plans for you?

[Caleb]

I mean, I'd love to see them. Yeah. I'm sure we can market them out.

[Charlie Barrons]

Definitely make a tuber. Other than that, we. I want each seat to have a cooler underneath it, so make sure you do that. Every seat, it doubles as A cooler. Pretty standard, obviously. Standard. And the seats should not, should they forget the. They should just be five gallon buckets. Every seat should be a five gallon bucket.

[Caleb]

Trapped ounce and five gallon bucket.

[Charlie Barrons]

Insulated. Yeah. So you can put beers in there, sausage, cheese, whatever you gotta do.

[Miles]

Get one of the lids with the padded seat on the top. Don't you know?

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Give them padded seat.

[Caleb]

We gotta make them nice.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

And one of the seats should be. That should be the john.

[Miles]

You have bathroom on this plane?

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. You'll have bathroom on the plane.

[Caleb]

Well, you know, I mean, the range on this thing is gonna be about a thousand miles, so that about five and a half hours of flight time. So some people, you know, bladders don't go that far.

[Charlie Barrons]

So do pilots just land the piss or do you guys have a pit? How do you guys pass?

[Caleb]

Yeah, I mean, most of the time you're just gonna, you're not gonna want to. I mean, just like on, on your regular commercial flights, you're not gonna want to sit in that seat for five hours. So, you know, if you need to, you put plan some pit stops along the way.

[Miles]

Yeah, but that just costs money. If I know anything about landing in an airport and refueling and shit. That's a lot of. That's a lot of gas.

[Charlie Barrons]

Takes the most amount of gas to take off and land, doesn't it?

[Caleb]

Yeah. And then a lot of these small airports will have landing fees. That's just basically maintenance fees for the runways. And so every time you land, you gotta, you gotta pay up a little bit unless you buy some fuel from them.

[Miles]

Have you thought about just doing flight simulator? You chose probably the most expensive hobby you can do. It's more expensive than being a car guy.

[Caleb]

All right, so that was it. I had it. When I made this decision, it was, it was either a project car or the airplane. And at that time, I was tired of working on the rusty vehicle I had. So airplane. Airplane was, was the, was the goal there.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay, well, you did it. You did it good. I. How do you like do pilots? So I heard that, you know, you get a cramp. Okay, you get a cramp when you're driving, right. I heard pilots have some tricks to prevent cramping. Is that true?

[Caleb]

Nothing that I've heard.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Caleb]

Have you heard anything?

[Charlie Barrons]

I heard you squeeze your calves or something, but I, I wasn't like you. You flex your calves and that takes away the ass pain.

[Miles]

But how many ass cramps are you getting? I am like. I imagine you were googling how to get rid of ass cramps.

[Charlie Barrons]

I saw. Yeah, well, Dante told me too. Dante's. He got his pilot's license and he says they squeeze their calves, but I try it, then it didn't work. I did get a dry needle in my ass last week, though, and it's helped quite a bit. If you guys want to help ass cram sometimes, like, you just. You're, you know, you're working too hard. You're crushing it at the.

[Miles]

Doing too many RDls.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, whatever. But it will dry hip bridges a little dry needle in the US Maybe that's where the song came from. You got a friend in me. You know, he was a dry needle guy. Anyways. Well, this is good. I think we've given you a lot of pretty good tips there. And miles. Anything else to send him off on his way?

[Miles]

No, I think we got it.

[Charlie Barrons]

I think we got it.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know, it is nice too, to like, check hobbies off the list that you're not going to do. And I. I think I can confidently say I won't be building an airplane after this. I'm just gonna be happy about that.

[Charlie Barrons]

You got, you got. You flew close enough to the sun.

[Miles]

To realize that it's too hot for my liking.

[Charlie Barrons]

Too hot for you? Yeah.

[Caleb]

Hey, you know, we all, you know, folks from Midwest, we like building things, right? So we do.

[Miles]

Which is a whole nother thing too. The closer you get to the sun, the colder it gets, by the way.

[Caleb]

Yeah, that is true.

[Miles]

So that, you know, explain that to me.

[Charlie Barrons]

That's really interesting.

[Miles]

Yeah. It's hotter on the ground than it is closer to the sun.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, why is that? I don't know, Caleb. Why is that?

[Caleb]

I mean, my best guess would be the, you know, everything the sun hits here, all the. The buildings and the dirt and all that stuff, it retains the heat right in the. In the air. There's nothing for it to hold on to.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah, that is actually very true. That's also. There's heat coming from the center of the earth as well.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah. Where geothermal comes from. Yeah. Well, we learned a lot today on this.

[Miles]

Do you actually know that we're probably more likely that the earth is going to cool too much for us to inhabit it before the sun dies out?

[Charlie Barrons]

Nope, I didn't.

[Caleb]

Where'd you hear that?

[Miles]

Ah, Chat. GPT. I. You want to know my thought, but this doesn't matter.

[Caleb]

But.

[Miles]

So I was on vacation and I was next to a mountain range, and so I started googling how old the mountain range was. And then it started telling me that there's some mountain ranges that are actually growing every year.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And some that are decaying.

[Charlie Barrons]

Right. I knew that.

[Miles]

And like the Smoky Mountain or no, what is the Appalachians out.

[Caleb]

The Tetons out in Wyoming are still growing.

[Miles]

Yeah. And usually the more jagged mountain range that it means is still growing, whereas if you get less jaggedy ones, that means that they're eroding and they're not growing anymore.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

And so then I started, you know. You know, how do they work? And then you get into plate tectonics, and then you get into the core of the Earth and then you'll find out, you know, how we were able to even inhabit the Earth is because it started really hot and then it cooled enough to support life, and then eventually it won't be able to again. And whole thing that was the rabbit.

[Charlie Barrons]

Hole I went down, you know, and we're just here for a little bit of time, and all we got to do is enjoy ourselves and make airplanes, you know?

[Caleb]

That's right.

[Charlie Barrons]

Love and make airplanes. Isn't that right? Well, you got a friend in me. Well, you have fun out there in those skies and let us know how it goes when you're done with your airplane. Send us a picture in seven years.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Caleb]

Appreciate it when it's done. You know, my goal is to get it up and fly it in the air venture up there, so.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, nice. Well, we'll. We'll come see you.

[Caleb]

Sounds good.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right. Fly safe out there. Watch for reindeer. Bye. Bye.

[Miles]

Man, how many is gonna be like 14, 15 years into this? I could never commit to something for that long.

[Charlie Barrons]

You gotta. You gotta admire it.

[Miles]

Year two. I'm getting bored of that project and not finishing it.

[Charlie Barrons]

I mean, true. I mean, I've got like seven unfinished projects at home right now.

[Miles]

I couldn't even get my house numbers up.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, that's true. Didn't you end up paying a guy to do that?

[Miles]

Well, I. I didn't.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

I mean, it was. I want a different route. I bought some house numbers. They didn't. They weren't gonna work, so then I had to punt. And we just like. It's a whole thing, Charlie. We don't need to rehash this.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, you shouldn't be a guy building an airplane, for God's sake. No, but I do appreciate that he's doing it. Diy.

[Miles]

It's cool. It's very expensive.

[Charlie Barrons]

Expensive, possibly a death trap, but cool.

[Miles]

It's just not good when your hobby, you. You can use the word million in it.

[Charlie Barrons]

This.

[Miles]

This project's gonna cost me a quarter million dollars stuff giving me a quarter.

[Charlie Barrons]

Of a heart attack just thinking about. Good God. All right, well, should we do another one? Let's do it. Yes.

[Miles]

Summer. It's summer. And with summer comes a lot of fun.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, it does, you know.

[Miles]

Water balloon fights.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Running on the dock, slip and slide, pool activity, you name it. There's all sorts of fun activities going on, but that doesn't come with a little bit of risk involved. Once in a while, that fun can go awry. You can sprain an ankle on a dock. You could be dodging a water balloon and collide with a tree.

[Charlie Barrons]

Bocce ball to the balls.

[Miles]

Bocc. Balls left and right. And if that happens to you guys, you gotta be keeping Nicolay in mind. You gotta give him a call. Because you don't want to take a bad situation and make it worse by not calling. Nicolay Law.

[Charlie Barrons]

Give him a call. 1-855- Nicolay Nick.

[Caleb]

How's it going?

[Miles]

Good. You're a tough man to reach.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

What's going on, Nick, we called you twice. Oh, my gosh. Well, we hear your co workers are acting weird in the potty. What's going on?

[Caleb]

Yeah, so, using the bathroom one day.

[Miles]

Are you at work?

[Charlie Barrons]

Are you in the right now?

[Caleb]

I am at work, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, so we use your. We'll keep it professional. We'll talk professional. Yeah.

[Caleb]

All right. No, it's okay. It's okay. Don't worry about it. We're good.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right.

[Miles]

Are you in a cubicle field right now?

[Caleb]

Like, are you in a. Oh, no, it's a warehouse.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, we'll go to your spot so you can talk freely.

[Caleb]

Yep. We're good. We're good.

[Miles]

All right, so give us a spot in the pallet racking, like an employee of the month. So they, like, go up on the left. They got a hangout area up there. You know what I'm talking about?

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Caleb]

Yeah, I need one of those.

[Miles]

Yeah, you do.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, spill the beans, man. What's going on?

[Caleb]

Yeah, so I was. I was using the bathroom one day.

[Miles]

One or two.

[Caleb]

Minding my business. Number two. Number two.

[Charlie Barrons]

You, dude.

[Caleb]

And. And this guy, he walks in, recognized him by his shoes, you know, because it happened more than once. And he's like. And as he's walking out, I hear him, like, sigh to himself. And then he, like, says under his breath, this kid's always in there thinking to myself, what's up with that? You know, what's up with that?

[Charlie Barrons]

And it's. He's just saying it. There's no one else in there, so he's really saying it to you. He knows you can hear it, right?

[Caleb]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Miles]

So there's a few things that could be happening. One, they could be synced up.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah.

[Miles]

Is there only one stall to do your bathroom?

[Caleb]

No, there's two in there.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie Barrons]

What, was someone in the other one?

[Caleb]

I don't think so.

[Charlie Barrons]

No, I know what this is. I know what this is, Miles. This is a shy pooping guy. This guy doesn't want to poop when there's someone else.

[Miles]

It could be true. Or he could just be a boomer who just, you know, thinks that you should never take a break for any reason whatsoever, you know?

[Caleb]

Ah.

[Charlie Barrons]

So did he use the urinal and then walk out? Do you think that's what it was?

[Caleb]

Oh, yeah, I think so. I think that time it was okay.

[Charlie Barrons]

I see. So. Okay, so that. So I misread the situation. He didn't want to use the crapper next to you or the crapper at all. He just was upset that you were doing it.

[Miles]

Well, so you know this guy's shoes. So you know which guy it is?

[Caleb]

Yes.

[Miles]

Can you give us some intel on the guy? What's he like?

[Caleb]

Oh, I don't know. A little bit awkward, I guess. Quiet. But he gets angry easily. Okay, that's about the best of my insight that I got.

[Charlie Barrons]

Is he like 55 plus?

[Caleb]

Probably mid-50s, I'd say. Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. He's got some seniority over you. What's his job at the shop?

[Caleb]

Kind of the same as mine. Just like, filling stuff with chemicals, moving stuff with forklifts, you know?

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Caleb]

Nothing crazy.

[Miles]

Certified or.

[Caleb]

No, no, no.

[Miles]

Jesus.

[Charlie Barrons]

He's not in my head.

[Caleb]

I am.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh.

[Caleb]

You know, I don't. He might be. I'm not, though.

[Charlie Barrons]

He probably. Yeah. I think what we're seeing is. Is a guy who's been at the company a long time. He knows how it goes, and then you show up, you're doing his. His same job, and he's getting a little jelly donut. And so now he's got to find reasons why you're a subpar employee to him. I think he's. I think he's a little bit threatened by you.

[Caleb]

Yeah, that could be it. That could be it.

[Miles]

Well, that's also. Let's not just assume that our guy Nick is in the right here. How many times are you shitting a day?

[Caleb]

Probably two at work.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Caleb]

Two times.

[Miles]

I mean, that's too. Well, what are you just eating beans and lettuce for. For lunch? Like you just eat. Are you just. Are you seeing fiber one bars all day?

[Caleb]

I don't know. I don't know. Just. Just doing what I got to do, you know, keep my body healthy.

[Charlie Barrons]

You ever get impressed by one you lay down there? Want to take a picture?

[Caleb]

Oh, yeah, all the time. Never a picture, but we got a.

[Miles]

Phone number for you if you want to send.

[Charlie Barrons]

You know, we're at this bar right now, Nick, and on the wall it says, send pics, too, and then list a number. Oh, yeah, yeah.

[Caleb]

Might have to give him a. Give him a call.

[Charlie Barrons]

No, it's someone's aunt. They were.

[Miles]

It was a.

[Charlie Barrons]

It was a. Yeah, we called it.

[Miles]

We called it and. Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, man.

[Miles]

Not our proudest moment. Is.

[Charlie Barrons]

Is that it, Nick? Is that the only two times a day?

[Miles]

If you had a co worker that was in there every day, two times a day. You frustrated that he's getting extra breaks?

[Charlie Barrons]

He's probably underplaying it too. Probably. Some days it's like three or four every time. Are you doing business there? Are you just checking emails?

[Caleb]

No, I'm doing business. I'm doing my business. You know, I like to keep it professional in there.

[Miles]

That's good.

[Charlie Barrons]

Are you on your phone?

[Caleb]

A little bit, but, you know, just a test of time.

[Miles]

Yeah, I'm in there, but I like. I think back to working on the construction site. If I was taking a poop twice a day, they would be on my ass.

[Caleb]

Well, yeah, that's true.

[Miles]

They would be giving me about that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Yeah. They're on your ass for trying to get some off your ass. I don't. I don't like that.

[Miles]

I know you're gonna go there.

[Charlie Barrons]

You didn't know or you didn't know?

[Miles]

Yes, it's pretty predictable.

[Charlie Barrons]

I mean, like, for me to go.

[Miles]

What. I mean, how's your relationship with this guy outside the bathroom? You guys cordial or is there a riff?

[Caleb]

I mean, we don't really talk. We don't really talk, but nothing. No, like, bad blood between the two of us.

[Miles]

Is that.

[Caleb]

I don't know what it is.

[Charlie Barrons]

Is that the only weird thing that was said to you and is that the only co worker that said something to you?

[Caleb]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Miles]

Now I want to know. I want to let you know that you may have the. The reputation around the office as being the guy who takes too many bathroom breaks. And when you're in there, they're all looking at each other going like, yeah, he's doing it again.

[Caleb]

That might be true.

[Charlie Barrons]

So as, as your doctor, we're going to prescribe your joint doctors here. We're going to prescribe you a little something to help with the situation. You're going to start eating three servings of cheese every breakfast. That should keep you plugged up. Should keep you plugged up at least until 5:30, 6:00 clock when you're at your own facility. All right.

[Caleb]

All right. Yeah, I'll try that one out. Call you guys back and let you know how that one goes.

[Charlie Barrons]

Call. Yeah.

[Miles]

And if you don't want to do that, throw it back in their face. If you feel like, just go like, what? Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime. That's why. Shit on company time.

[Charlie Barrons]

There you go.

[Caleb]

Exactly.

[Miles]

There you go.

[Charlie Barrons]

Right? You know what? Write that in the stall the next time you're there. So the next.

[Caleb]

That's a good idea.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. And then they'll see it there and they'll appreciate. That's right. You just got to start doing some, some restroom propaganda while you're. Start getting people on your side. Start a movement. Yeah, A bowel movement, you know?

[Miles]

Yeah. Start writing bad things about Kevin on the wall, you know?

[Caleb]

Yeah, that would be good.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, you. They can't be bad about Kevin because you want Kevin on your side, you know?

[Miles]

Does he, though?

[Charlie Barrons]

I mean, I think he does. He's starting a revolution. You need everyone on your side, even the people you know.

[Caleb]

Yeah. We deserve two. Two poop breaks a day. Two poop, not just one.

[Miles]

Yeah, see this? Everyone hates millennials. You know what?

[Charlie Barrons]

What? You don't even know he's a millennial. He could be a gen zer. How old are you?

[Caleb]

21.

[Miles]

This is why everyone hates Gen Z, you know, back in the day, they didn't even. They didn't even. They didn't have time to poop at all.

[Charlie Barrons]

You just clenched sweaty cheeks.

[Caleb]

Yeah, I gotta figure something out.

[Miles]

What is your diet, by the way? Are you. Because it's like, it's either one of two things. Either you have a fibrous diet or you're eating. You're eating frozen pizza and Doritos and light beer every day. Which one is it?

[Caleb]

I'd say more towards like the first one. You know, a lot of protein, you know, stuff like that.

[Miles]

But are you a gym rat?

[Caleb]

I wouldn't say that, but I like to spend my time in the gym a little bit.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah?

[Miles]

What's your bench? How much you Bench?

[Caleb]

I. I got no idea. I got no idea. Never. Haven't maxed out in a while.

[Miles]

You can't tell me you're only doing leg day.

[Caleb]

No, no, I'm just. I'm just not, like, pushing my max weights, you know?

[Miles]

You see your crossfitter?

[Caleb]

Sure, sure.

[Miles]

Are you.

[Caleb]

Actually, no, I'm not. Probably describes it better, though, you know what I'm doing in there.

[Miles]

You a TRX guy? You know, are you a Jazzer size guy?

[Caleb]

That would be good. I gotta look into that.

[Miles]

Charlie, we should do a Jazzer size course.

[Charlie Barrons]

That'd be a lot of fun. You should do it. We should have it, like, bellied up in the field. Nick, are you. You got a gal friend or are you just going to the gym, trying to pick one up?

[Caleb]

Oh, no, I got a girlfriend.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay, okay. Does she know you're going to the gym with nothing specific in mind?

[Caleb]

Yeah, she knows. She knows. She supports it.

[Miles]

Does she know you go to the gym and don't max out ever?

[Caleb]

Yeah, she does. I think. Might have to have a conversation about that one, though.

[Miles]

Tell us about your gal friend. Yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious. The gal behind the toilet seat.

[Caleb]

What do you want to know? What do you want to know?

[Miles]

What's her best quality?

[Caleb]

You know, she's got a great heart, very kind, keeps me happy.

[Miles]

Now, what's her. That's good. That's good. Are you gonna marry this gal, you think?

[Caleb]

I don't know. I don't know. Only time will tell, I guess.

[Miles]

Oh.

[Charlie Barrons]

How old is she?

[Caleb]

She's 20. So a year younger than me.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So do you go to the bar by yourself then?

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Oh, that's got to be a little bit of a riff in the relationship, huh? Who you been talking to?

[Caleb]

You know, just the fellas. You know, the fellas going out for a few beers.

[Charlie Barrons]

How long you guys hanging out?

[Caleb]

A year and a half.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, it's getting serious.

[Miles]

You're gonna have to either or get off the pot.

[Caleb]

Yeah, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

You get that? Nick, based off of our previous conversation, that's what we call a callback. All right, well, so you think it may or may not work out at this point, Good for you.

[Caleb]

Yeah, yeah, I think it will, but we'll have to see. We'll have to see.

[Miles]

What are you still looking for? You know, if you're still on the fence. What are you looking. What do you know? What does she have left? Left to reveal to you to know if she's the one?

[Caleb]

Well, I don't know. It just, you know, I got to get financially stable and all that and figure that all out, you know, get to that point in my life and then we'll see how the relationship is then.

[Charlie Barrons]

Sounds fairly non committal if I'm her dad. I'm not happy with these responses. I feel like you might be wasting my daughter's time. What's the plan for getting more financially stable?

[Caleb]

Well, trying to leave this warehouse. So that's the first step.

[Miles]

And where. Where are you trying to get to?

[Caleb]

I'm trying to get in a pipe fitting.

[Charlie Barrons]

Trying to lay some pipe.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Right.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, that's. That's. That's probably. Yeah, that's a good one.

[Charlie Barrons]

Step in the right direction.

[Miles]

I mean, you. This guy loves the bathroom.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, he really loves it. Yeah. Is there something that maybe.

[Miles]

Welcome to the interview for the pipe fitting job. What's your qualification? I poop twice a day.

[Charlie Barrons]

Really?

[Miles]

And I know my way around some pipes and I know how to clog them. I know how to unclog them. I know the ins and outs. So I'm.

[Charlie Barrons]

I'm excited for you and your future here, Nick.

[Caleb]

Thank you. I appreciate it. I am too.

[Miles]

So what if that ship doesn't come into harbor or whatever? What is it if that ship stays at bay, you know? Is it. You don't want your love to be conditional on what your salary you're making either, though, you know?

[Caleb]

Oh, I know, I know. I just gotta, like, you know, move out first of my. With my parents, you know. Move out?

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, you know.

[Caleb]

Yeah, that stuff.

[Miles]

What's. What does she do for a job?

[Caleb]

She's in college right now.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. It's gonna be a couple years.

[Miles]

What's she gonna do when she gets out? Herself a sugar mama or is she a communication.

[Caleb]

No, she wants to be worker.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, God. Okay. Yeah, good for her. Good for her. God bless.

[Miles]

Better than being an art major, but. Yeah.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. Financially, that'll be a tough one, so you better start laying those pipes.

[Miles]

I want to just get into finance or something.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, I don't think so. No. He's probably in the right place. Robots, they can do the financing. You were just talking about before this that the best way to do with your money is put it in a fund that.

[Miles]

Yeah, an index fund. Yeah. The S P guy.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Doubles every seven years. If you got 100 bucks now, in seven years you have 200. In 14 years you got 400 bucks.

[Charlie Barrons]

Really?

[Miles]

Just keeps going like that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Are you investing yet, Nick, or.

[Caleb]

No, not really.

[Miles]

Potentially a backdoor Roth, I think I.

[Caleb]

Got one, but, you know, not much in there yet. You just been.

[Charlie Barrons]

Think you got one?

[Caleb]

Okay, well, you know, they. They give me one through work.

[Charlie Barrons]

Do you match?

[Miles]

Are you maxing out the match?

[Caleb]

Yeah, I don't think so. No.

[Miles]

That's a huge mistake. Every day. Yeah, I gotta start losing up on. You're losing out on compounding interest. And don't even get me started on compounding interest next time you're on the pot. Once you Google compounding interest, and I guarantee you're gonna walk right into HR department and say, I need to max out my. My match here, otherwise I'm wasting time.

[Caleb]

Yeah, yeah, I'll do that. I'll do that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay, well, this is a good talk, Nick. We're happy you called in. And tell Kevin that we say hi. All right, I will.

[Caleb]

I'll let him know. Thank you, guys.

[Charlie Barrons]

You bet, man. Good talking to you. Good kid.

[Miles]

Good kid.

[Charlie Barrons]

You know, we. We told him what we needed to tell him, and we'll see if he ponies up, you know, figures his life.

[Miles]

Out a little bit to be 21 again. And that's the biggest concern in your life, is a coworker muttering a. A little phrase as he leaves the bathroom?

[Charlie Barrons]

You know, it's a nice, nice way to live.

[Miles]

My wife says that to me once a day. Or passive aggressively says it to my kid who can't talk. Oh, yeah, yeah. Dad's in the bathroom pooping again, avoiding his responsibilities.

[Charlie Barrons]

I don't even think it's possible for someone to poop that much.

[Miles]

Yeah. Yeah. So maybe I can't talk.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah. I bet she's just on his phone quite a bit. You know, that can be tough on the. On the lower back. Lower back, yeah. And the colon, I think. Or the red.

[Miles]

Do you guys think it's true? Do you guys ever see that rumor that there's a. A company in, I don't know, some country in Asia that they made their toilet seats have an angle down a certain degree so that after, like, seven minutes of sitting on the toilet, your knees start to hurt really bad so that people aren't wasting time on the toilet.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, I bet China. Yeah. Sounds like a Chinese workplace for sure. Yeah. If they even.

[Miles]

And you know, I also saw. I. I'm. It's so hard these days to know what is just made up on the Internet.

[Caleb]

Not right.

[Miles]

But I'll say that Japan's got more pets than they do children these days.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, they're on a negative. They have a negative birth rate, I think They're a dying civilization. Kind of like Europe.

[Miles]

Yeah, Crazy.

[Charlie Barrons]

Gotta start. Gotta start fornicating.

[Miles]

That's good muskie tank. We gotta start making pet products in Japan.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, there you go. Yeah. Is it like samurai sword?

[Miles]

Well, we could do like. Well, I was saying we could bring the Midwest flavor to Japan. Pets. And we could do, like, venison pet food.

[Charlie Barrons]

You know, venison pet food.

[Miles]

We'll see if cats. Why would they see if cats have a flavor for deer?

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay. All right, well, taste for the deer. It's not a bad idea.

[Miles]

Oh, okay. Charlie, we got a voicemail here. Buckle in.

[Charlie Barrons]

Here's the mail that never fails. Makes me want to wag my tail when it comes. I want a whale. Voicemail. His name's Deegan.

[Miles]

Deeks.

[Caleb]

All right, boys, I need your help. So, my dad. I'm sure you guys know the rule about touching the dad's thermostat, and that's a no go.

[Miles]

But he leaves the house at a.

[Caleb]

Steep 80 degrees Fahrenheit.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay.

[Caleb]

And I'm a cold sleeper.

[Charlie Barrons]

Okay?

[Caleb]

So I don't need to know if I have the right to touch the thermostat. That. If it's that outrageous. I can't take it anymore. This needs to change asap.

[Miles]

Yeah, well, it sounds, Dean, like you need to get a job and move out.

[Charlie Barrons]

I was gonna say, you can touch a thermostat, but he can touch you with the back of his hand at a rate of 28 miles per hour. So if you want that fastball, go ahead, give it a go. 80 is pretty. You know, that's some not bad. I grew up with no ac. And you just kind of stuck to the sheets. That was how it went.

[Caleb]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know, I will have to say I. I am turning a little bit into my dad. At the lake last weekend, I did get mad at someone for leaving the door open because we had the ac, but it was a. Heat index was a hundred degrees, and that was my only relief, was the AC inside. And someone left the door open. Just let all the heat in in trying to cool the whole lake. I mean, and it's honestly not even the heat. It's the humidity. You know, you get into bed at night. We got a dehumidifier at the lake, but if you. If that sucker's not on, or we have the door open all day, you get into bed. It's like, I didn't sign up for a water bed.

[Charlie Barrons]

It's.

[Miles]

It's just damp. Yeah, well, I. I didn't know that. That was one of my pet peeves is damp sheets from the humidity.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah.

[Miles]

I just don't know if I could live in Florida.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, yeah. It's from the humidity, huh? Y. Yeah. I got a towel off from Sweaty McSweats over here. I love how you're saying somebody, like, you have more than one other person that you live with.

[Miles]

Well, no, the lake is like, you.

[Charlie Barrons]

Know, oh, there's multiple people. Okay, okay, got it.

[Miles]

So some people filter in and out.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, I got it. I get it. Yeah. I mean, you know, the thing with the thermostat is that if you pay attention, you can save some significant money every. I mean, we're talking like, to the tune of like $50 a month could be saved with living in discomfort all the time.

[Miles]

That's like on you bet your radio. Our other podcast I told a story about. Anna and I will just leave our outside lights on, like, because we just don't want to have to think about flipping them on and off. And during the day, you can't. It's so bright out, you can't see that the lights are on. So it doesn't matter. So as soon as he's like, put it on the timer, I'm like, I'm just. It. It's fine. And he was going to lose his mind on me because of all the electricity we're wasting.

[Charlie Barrons]

Your dad. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of with him on that.

[Miles]

$2.40 a month extra.

[Charlie Barrons]

Do you at least have high efficiency bulbs out there, like LEDs? Okay. All right. I mean, that's pretty low. Pretty low. Still a waste of money. But, you know, you add that up.

[Miles]

Over day when he found that.

[Charlie Barrons]

Well, because it's not just that light. Miles, if you're doing them with that light, what else are you doing at with.

[Miles]

That's it.

[Charlie Barrons]

I don't know. Let's dig into that a little bit more. Let's talk about those numbers on your house. Did you pay someone to put those up?

[Miles]

I. I bought a sign with the house numbers and we put it up together.

[Charlie Barrons]

Oh, you bought a sign. You know the numbers.

[Miles]

Buddy. He was a buddy who had a.

[Charlie Barrons]

Yeah, he had a. You were supporting your buddy.

[Miles]

Correct.

[Caleb]

Okay.

[Charlie Barrons]

All right, let me help you out there. Still a waste of money. So I'm wondering, between the house numbers, between the lights being on, I'm kind of on your dad's side on this one. How often are you changing your oil? Cuz, you know, that seems like a fixed cost, like where you can avoid that, but the gas, you're going to save in the gas in the long run. I'll look at your car when we get out of this. Well, folks, that was another episode of the Bellied up podcast. I'm Charlie. I might have just lost a friend. His name is no Charlie.

[Miles]

You got a friend, friend?

[Charlie Barrons]

You got a friend in me?

[Miles]

In me?

[Charlie Barrons]

You got a friend.

[Miles]

I'm not doing it. Yeah, well, guys, thanks for tuning in. Remember to always tip your bartender. We'll see you next one. Love you guys.

[Caleb]

Bye.

[Charlie Barrons]

Bye.

[Caleb]

Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.