When Asking For a Raise Goes Wrong #128

Summary

Bellied Up Podcast – Episode: "When Asking For a Raise Goes Wrong #128"

Hosts: You Betcha Guy (Myles) & Charlie Berens
Release Date: November 27, 2024
Location: Slims Bar, Bemidji, Minnesota

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Introduction: Meeting Narrow at Slims Bar

The episode kicks off with host Charlie Berens welcoming listeners from Slims Bar in Bemidji, Minnesota, situated deep in Vikings territory. Both hosts engage in a light-hearted conversation about meeting Narrow, the original owner of the bar.

• Charlie (00:00): "Folks, welcome, welcome. Here we are at Slims in Bemidji, Minnesota, deep in the Vikings territory."
• Myles (00:11): "We met Narrow. He's a good, good guy."

The playful banter sets a friendly and relaxed tone for the episode, emphasizing the genuine connections the hosts have with local establishments.

Main Discussion: Zoom Camera Etiquette and Multitasking

The conversation shifts to the modern workplace dilemma of Zoom meeting etiquette, specifically the etiquette surrounding camera usage.

• Charlie (01:43): "There's nothing better than, you know, multitasking. Like, you're listening, but you're also walking or you're driving..."
• Myles (02:12): "I actually feel like everyone who has their camera on, and there's one that doesn't, they all secretly wish they were the person without their camera on."

They debate the pros and cons of keeping cameras on during virtual meetings, highlighting the inherent desire for privacy and the practicality of multitasking.

• Charlie (02:58): "Let’s all take a piece of our lives back today. Let's turn off the zoom cameras."

• Myles (04:30): "The worst part about a zoom call is the initial ice breaking. Small talk."

Haircuts and Barber Stories

Transitioning from professional frustrations to personal grooming, the hosts share humorous anecdotes about haircuts and barbers.

• Myles (05:09): "Your hair today. Oh, is looking good. Did you get a new barber?"
• Charlie (05:15): "Let me see... I went back to my old barber."

They delve into the challenges of scheduling haircuts and the importance of finding a reliable barber, with Charlie expressing frustration over the difficulty of securing appointments.

• Charlie (05:44): "Trying to schedule a haircut is a difficult thing. I'm always thinking I should really get a haircut. But it's got to be immediate."

Merch Promotion

A brief interlude features promotion of the podcast's new merchandise, with Charlie showcasing the "I'm bellied up to the bar" shirt.

• Myles (07:23): "Check it out... you can check it out at youbetcha.com."

Listener Call-ins

The heart of the episode lies in the engaging call-ins from listeners, each presenting unique and often humorous dilemmas.

Caller 1: Isaac from Omaha – Apartment with Cousin and Ex-Boyfriend

Isaac shares his predicament of living with his cousin after she reconciled with a cheating boyfriend, leading to tension and uncertainty about his living situation.

• Isaac (08:29): "We were just going to be staying here for a while... but she got back with her boyfriend that had previously cheated on her."

The hosts brainstorm inventive (albeit comedic) business ideas to help Isaac navigate his situation, suggesting creating services to trap or assist those involved in toxic relationships.

• Charlie (10:57): "So you're gonna get a photographer there... boom, Your cousin's paying rent again."

Caller 2: Keith from Lubbock – Troubles with a Guard Dog and Break-In

Keith recounts the woes of having a dog that isn't very effective as a guard, compounded by a recent break-in at his home.

• Keith (21:28): "So I was like, oh, that's what that is. I was like, no way. Someone had jumped over the fence and tried to pry open my back window."

The hosts humorously critique Keith's choice of dog breed for guard duties, and Keith vents about his frustrations with the inefficacy of his dog.

• Charlie (24:35): "You can't roll the dice with a mutt. You got to go full bore and just buy yourself a wolf somewhere."

Caller 3: Hayden from Utah – Asking for a Raise Gone Wrong

Hayden provides an in-depth "bellied update" on his experience attempting to secure a raise at his job, which backfired when he was unexpectedly fired instead.

• Hayden (33:11): "I was completely blindsided by it... he just drops the bomb on me first and tells me, hey, yeah, we're gonna let you go."

The hosts offer both sympathy and tongue-in-cheek advice, leading to a discussion on the concept of "failing upwards." Hayden later shares that after being let go, he secured a better-paying job.

• Charlie (36:42): "That's exactly what you should have asked him for. A raise right there, just to see."

• Myles (40:09): "This great lesson from Hayden here is just quit your job and get a higher paying job instead of asking for a raise."

Hayden humorously concludes his update by affirming his new position and the success of following the hosts' advice.

• Hayden (38:37): "Now I work with an optometrist here, and it pays more, so it's an upgrade."

Community and Banter

Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in witty banter, making humorous observations about each other's stories and injecting their own comedic flair into the conversations.

• Myles (41:37): "Failed upwards. It happens in all forms."

• Charlie (44:18): "Much easier to have your baby face up there, you know, talking about how you don't like spotted cow."

Conclusion: Embracing Failures and Moving Forward

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the lessons learned from fan call-ins and their own experiences with professional setbacks.

• Charlie (44:48): "Failed upwards, baby."

• Myles (41:24): "That's what it's all about."

They close with encouragement for listeners to embrace their own failures as steps toward eventual success, maintaining the podcast's signature blend of humor and heartfelt advice.

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Notable Quotes:

1. Charlie (02:58): "Let’s all take a piece of our lives back today. Let's turn off the zoom cameras."
2. Myles (05:09): "Your hair today. Oh, is looking good. Did you get a new barber?"
3. Charlie (10:57): "So you're gonna get a photographer there... boom, Your cousin's paying rent again."
4. Keith (21:28): "Someone had jumped over the fence and tried to pry open my back window."
5. Charlie (24:35): "You can't roll the dice with a mutt. You got to go full bore and just buy yourself a wolf somewhere."
6. Hayden (33:11): "I was completely blindsided by it... he just drops the bomb on me first and tells me, hey, yeah, we're gonna let you go."
7. Myles (40:09): "This great lesson from Hayden here is just quit your job and get a higher paying job instead of asking for a raise."
8. Charlie (44:48): "Failed upwards, baby."

Key Takeaways:

• Navigating Workplace Etiquette: The hosts offer humorous yet insightful commentary on modern workplace challenges, such as Zoom etiquette and the complexities of asking for a raise.
• Community Support: Through listener call-ins, "Bellied Up" provides a platform for sharing real-life dilemmas, receiving both practical and comedic advice from the hosts.
• Embracing Failure: A recurring theme is the notion of "failing upwards," where setbacks are viewed as stepping stones to greater success, exemplified by Hayden’s journey.
• Humor in Everyday Struggles: Whether dealing with pesky guard dogs, break-ins, or professional missteps, the hosts maintain a light-hearted approach, making relatable content entertaining.

Conclusion

Episode #128 of the "Bellied Up" podcast masterfully combines humor with relatable life scenarios, offering listeners both laughter and genuine advice. From the intricacies of virtual meetings to the tumultuous experience of seeking a raise, Charlie and Myles navigate each topic with charm and wit, ensuring that even the most mundane problems are belly-up-worthy moments of comedy and camaraderie.

Transcript

[Charlie]

Folks, welcome, welcome. Here we are at Slims in Bemidji, Minnesota, deep in the Vikings territory.

[Miles]

Miles, we just actually met the original.

[Charlie]

Owner of the bar, Narrow.

[Miles]

I was setting it up for yourself, I was gonna say. So I asked him, so you're Slim? And then he said, no, they actually call me Narrow.

[Charlie]

Oh, I thought that was his name.

[Miles]

What?

[Charlie]

Now I get to joke? Now I get the joke. God, it would have been so much funnier if you just said it. But here we are, folks.

[Miles]

So we met Narrow.

[Charlie]

We met Narrow. He's a good, good guy.

[Miles]

Yes, I like that. Actually. I actually remember we did Chubbs. You remember? It was in Fargo as a bar, a bar called Chubb's Pub.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah.

[Miles]

When we were in there, the former owner of the bar was drinking at the bar. And then we just met the former owner of this bar who's drinking at the bar. I like a bar owner that even after they have sold and they're of it, they're showing up. That's real. That's real, love.

[Charlie]

Could be contractual. Could be something like, hey, we're going to buy this. We're going to buy you out, but we want you to stay on for the next five years.

[Miles]

Yeah, for the next five years. You have to do a Tolkien Daily smoking joke with the patrons.

[Charlie]

Just, just so. Just to ease the transition. Because people are wary about just people coming up all willy nilly buying bars, turning them corporate. Not here, though. Not at Slim. Sit down.

[Miles]

Too much change can scare people off.

[Charlie]

Of a. Yeah, and I know the ownership.

[Miles]

That last thing you want at a bar is people going, oh, ever since Narrow sold the bar, that place is going to shit.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you can't have, you can't have that chit chat going around. Chit chat or sink a ship.

[Miles]

It's true.

[Charlie]

Sink a bar. Got a question for you, Miles. Yeah, so I was talking with. I was talking with someone yesterday. I was like, what do you think about the people that turn their cameras off during a zoom meeting? And this dude was like, I think they're the most arrogant assholes in the world. He went off. Really went off. All the while I was like, oh, I just have my camera off in a zoom meeting, you know?

[Miles]

Well, so here's what I'll say about it.

[Charlie]

What?

[Miles]

I actually feel like everyone who has their camera on, and there's one that doesn't, they all secretly wish they were the person without their camera on.

[Charlie]

I want to. I think nobody should have their camera. I. What happened to the conference call? You know, we had the technology right with the conference call.

[Miles]

It's kind of one of those things that if it ain't broke, don't fix it. We went too far.

[Charlie]

We do go too far. Because there's nothing better than, you know, multitasking. Like, you're listening, but you're also walking or you're driving or like now, a.

[Miles]

Little piece of advice for you, Charlie, why you can't multitask.

[Charlie]

That's not. I can walk. I can walk and do it and chew bubble gum. I can.

[Miles]

But you cannot multitask.

[Charlie]

But dude, it's call after call after call after call. I feel like, I feel like what I should say to everybody on the call is, hey guys, let's all take a piece of our lives back today. Let's turn off the zoom cameras. Is that rude? It's not that I don't want to see him. I just know nobody wants to be on zoom.

[Miles]

Yeah, I mean, then they're going to be start thinking about, like, why. They'd be like, why doesn't he want us to have our cameras on? What's going on?

[Charlie]

I just want to be. Extend my politeness instead of me turning my camera because I like, I like, like I said, I like being, you know, I feel like we do so much with this. I like to be out there, you know, walking or on a zoom call. I don't want to be on the zoom call, but if I got to be on it, it's like, it's just nice to walk at the blood pressure down.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Am I, am I a jackass? Do you keep your zoom camera on all the time? And I don't do this all the time, mind you. I only do if I'm driving or what I do.

[Miles]

So what I do is, you know how before you get into the room, you can turn your camera on or off? Yeah, I start with it off most times and then feel it out.

[Charlie]

Okay.

[Miles]

If there's other people with them off.

[Charlie]

I've seen you do that before, actually. I've seen you do that. I think it was a target call or something. Yeah, like halfway through you gave up and you just turned your zoom camera on.

[Miles]

Well, that was probably because my kid was crying and I had to friggin deal with him.

[Charlie]

I mean, there's so many other things, you know, I don't know. I don't think it's that big of a deal if you guys have a.

[Miles]

My, my new move on. On zoom is to put a silly background behind me, like on a sailboat or something.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it's a great.

[Miles]

Because you know, the worst part about a zoom call is the initial ice breaking. Small talk.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Immediately someone comments on it, you'd be.

[Charlie]

The guy to do it.

[Miles]

It looks like Miles is enjoying his vacation on his boat. And then it's just a. It's a natural icebreaker. You don't even got to worry about saying anything.

[Charlie]

That is smart and it really takes the pressure off everybody else. And you're really jumping on the grenade there.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

At the times you have your. Your camera on, that is.

[Miles]

I want to say, Charlie.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Your hair today. Oh, is looking good. Did you get a new barber?

[Charlie]

Thank you. I did get a new barber.

[Miles]

I tell.

[Charlie]

I went back to my old barber.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

When I used to. Aiden. Shout out to Aiden.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Stag barbershop in Milwaukee. Great guy.

[Miles]

Classic. You have a high school sweetheart, you break up to go to college and realize she was the love of your life. So you went back?

[Charlie]

Well, I mean, I just moved geographically. I wasn't cheating on Aiden. It was just. We went our different ways. I went my way, he stayed where he was. And then. Can I also say this? Trying to schedule a haircut is a difficult thing. And so I'm always thinking I should really get a haircut. But it's got to be immediate. So I want to get done tomorrow or that day. You can never find an appointment.

[Miles]

You know what? I did what I need to do.

[Charlie]

I split into his DMs.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

What'd you do?

[Miles]

Well, it's just when you get a haircut, if you like that person, you just schedule the next haircut before you leave.

[Charlie]

I don't know if you know this about me, Miles, but there is no world that I've ever existed in where I say yes to scheduling the next doctor's appointment. The next. Because I'm like, I'm going to forget. It's not going to be worth that. Let's just. I'll call you when I need you. I need to do more planning. The thing that makes humans, you know.

[Miles]

Different than a deer on the side.

[Charlie]

Of the road is that they plan.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Deer don't plan. They just run to the hump.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

And they die. A lot of them die.

[Miles]

I would say you kind of have like a. You like, you got some volume going on, Right?

[Charlie]

Let me see.

[Miles]

And then there's a neon above you, and it's like you have like a kind of a pinkish purplish silhouette. You're looking good today.

[Charlie]

Thank you. Thank you. You know, Miles, the other Thing is, I've let my hair grow long and I've seen a lot of comments. Somebody said that, Charlie, why do you look like you just got out of a fight all the time? It was like, well, that might be.

[Miles]

Because you're so sleep deprived that your eyes look like they're black and blue.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I think that might be it. Do they. Do they look bad? I got some good sleep.

[Miles]

Looks like you got some good sleep. Yeah.

[Charlie]

Thanks, Miles. I really appreciate you pumping my tires, my guy. And that's the nice thing about the Bellied up podcast, is we're always nice to each other. Always pumping each other's tires. Miles been working out and, boy, I can tell. I've been able to tell for a while now. That's not a full pump. I mean, that I was going to tell you that whether he's talked about my hair or not.

[Miles]

Okay.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Should we take some calls?

[Isaac]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Before that, though, Charlie, we got to remind the listeners we got the new Bellied up merch. Check it out. Charlie's got the. If you can read this, I'm bellied up to the bar shirt on with the Bellied up logo on the front. I got the green colorway of the ditch chicken shirts. So if you go to oh, you bet you dot com, that's O h, h, you bet you dot com you can check it out.

[Charlie]

Swinging that merch, baby. And hey, great way to support the podcast to do it. You know, Miles and I, we are just. We're living one day at a time, one breakfast bagel at a time, one.

[Miles]

Haircut at a time.

[Charlie]

Haircut at a time. But we do really appreciate you guys. And even if you're like, no, I'm not gonna buy your stupid merch, we just love the fact that you are listening. Belling up to the bar. We love you. So anyways, should we take some callers, Miles?

[Miles]

Let's do it. Welcome to the Bellied up podcast. Who are we talking to?

[Isaac]

Hey, this is Isaac from Omaha.

[Miles]

Isaac from Omaha. Why don't you belly up to the bar, tell us what you want to get off your chest today.

[Isaac]

Okay, well, you see, I got this apartment with my. With my cousin, and I had it planned out when I assumed she did as well. We were just going to be staying here for a while. Yeah, but she got back with her boyfriend that had previously cheated on her, and that's, you know, that's the reason we got this apartment, because she needed a place to stay after that, and so did I, so.

[Charlie]

And, you know.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Isaac]

Yeah, Andy, you know, it's just. It's just a little irritating, you know, on two months notice that we are gonna continue the loose, you know.

[Charlie]

All right.

[Isaac]

I don't know. You guys have like.

[Miles]

Yeah, so let's unpack this. So you moved in with your cousin because she got cheated on. She was living with her ex boyfriend. You're like, hey, let's sign a year to lease, right?

[Charlie]

Cousins.

[Miles]

Cousins, yeah.

[Hayden]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Then, yeah, she goes and gets back together with the other fella and wants to move out again. Is that what you're saying?

[Isaac]

Yeah, yeah. I'm like, two months notice.

[Miles]

I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you. I think you just gotta wait it out a couple months. She's gonna be back.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

I mean, this guy sounds like you think this guy's had a come to Jesus moment. Is never gonna do it again.

[Charlie]

No. How old is he?

[Keith]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Isaac]

How old is he? He's 25. She's 21, I think.

[Charlie]

Isn't going to work. So here's what you do.

[Keith]

No, no, no, it's not going to work.

[Miles]

I love on this podcast that if Anyone is under 30 years old, Charlie's like, just, it doesn't matter. You're never going to either get married or stay married.

[Charlie]

There's been a few I've let slide by, but he's already saying she, she. He cheated on her.

[Miles]

You're 100.

[Charlie]

I'm right. So here's all you gotta do, okay? You gotta start a service and it's called breakupbadrelationships.org or something. So you're gonna get some. Some of the. Some, you know, some gals and some fellas, okay? Because you're doing this for men, you're doing it for women. And they are gonna go meet up with their mark. That guy, and they are going to tempt them with, you know, a little makeout session at the bar. Oh, and then when I'm following, then you get. You get a photographer there, you know, or someone with. Just to sell your telephone. They take pictures these days. You get a little snapshot of that drunken bar make out, boom, Your cousin's paying rent again.

[Miles]

You're trying to trap them into it.

[Charlie]

Entrapment? Yeah. Is this entrapment?

[Miles]

I don't. I don't know.

[Charlie]

I don't even know what entrapment is. It sounds.

[Keith]

Doesn't matter.

[Charlie]

That could be the name of the company. Entrapment. Org.

[Keith]

Well, that might get.

[Isaac]

That might get a little. A little.

[Charlie]

Well, call it something else.

[Miles]

But anyway, your Idea. Spurred an idea for me here, Charlie.

[Charlie]

What's that, Miles?

[Miles]

You. You got an open bedroom and you have a website. What was the website called again?

[Charlie]

Kill this Relationship. It's a working title. It's a working title.

[Miles]

Anyways, I don't like, you need to become the Ronald McDonald House of People who just got cheated on.

[Charlie]

Oh, now there we're talking.

[Miles]

So you got. They got cheated on. They got to move out of the house. You take them in.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I mean, I bring them on.

[Isaac]

In for like two, three months.

[Miles]

Yeah, exactly. It's like a short term rental around here. Yes, you're.

[Charlie]

You're gonna need my own place for that.

[Isaac]

That's not a bad idea.

[Charlie]

You're fostering broken hearts and you got a freezer full of chocolate ice cream and cigarettes, and it's going to be a wonderful time.

[Miles]

Yeah, you know, when you get into an Uber, you know, it's fancy. They have water bottles and, like, mints that you sit in there.

[Charlie]

Yeah. And three chargers.

[Miles]

They move. Yeah, they move in. You make sure you have a cozy warm blanket, a Netflix subscription, and a big tub of chocolate ice cream, and you just keep cycling the broken hearts through and you're just raking in the cash. Pretty soon you're not even paying rent because you got four people with broken hearts paying rent for you.

[Charlie]

I mean, Miles, I don't say this often, but you're a genius.

[Miles]

Thank you.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Hayden]

Here's the thing, though.

[Isaac]

Do I just charge them rent or do they got to pay extra?

[Charlie]

Well, they have to pay a little extra. Yeah, because you're stocking that thing with ice cream and treats and.

[Isaac]

Good point, good point.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I mean, come on. That Netflix subscription is not going to pay for itself, so you charge them 30% more. But you know what? People are looking for something to help after a broken heart, and what they're.

[Miles]

Going to say is, like, why can't I just do a month. A month lease at an apartment and it'll be a little bit cheaper? And then you go, but it's all about marketing, baby.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Do you want to go? You want to go live in an apartment by yourself with all of your feelings? Or do you want to move into a house with a bunch of other people who are sad and depressed and you guys can complain to each other.

[Charlie]

Exactly.

[Miles]

All about marketing.

[Charlie]

Exactly.

[Isaac]

I like that. I like that. Yeah, I like that.

[Charlie]

Just make sure that what your guys are. Go ahead, Go ahead.

[Hayden]

Sorry.

[Charlie]

No, you go. After you. I insist.

[Isaac]

So, okay, so what you guys are suggesting here, right? So I start. I start a company where I take brokenhearted people bringing them and have them pay rent. And that will figure out my. My situation I got going on here.

[Charlie]

Exactly.

[Miles]

And you're not. You're not. You're not selling a place to live. What you're selling is comfortable.

[Charlie]

Yes.

[Miles]

You got to keep that.

[Charlie]

Yeah. You're there to get them back on their feet and.

[Isaac]

Okay.

[Hayden]

In and out kind of thing.

[Miles]

Yeah. And I think you also got to make sure you got to stock the. The apartment or house or whatever. Well, no, you got to stock condoms as well, because you get a guy gal who, you know, both brokenhearted. There's. They're going to be. There's gonna be some hanky panky going now.

[Isaac]

We're.

[Miles]

So you're going to also need to make sure you insulate each wall double.

[Isaac]

So this could also be a matchmaking type thing.

[Miles]

Yeah, I think more lightly. I think more lightly said it's a smash pad is what it really is.

[Isaac]

Okay. Yeah. Okay.

[Keith]

Well.

[Miles]

It turns into the bachelor bachelorette mansion. You know, you could even hold rose ceremonies for people.

[Charlie]

You could. And you should film.

[Isaac]

I have to.

[Hayden]

Go ahead.

[Charlie]

I was just gonna say you could film it, make a pilot. It could be a whole TV show, a whole thing.

[Miles]

You know, that actually is a great concept.

[Isaac]

I might have to get a little permission from my leasing office.

[Charlie]

Oh, they're not gonna approve it.

[Hayden]

This is.

[Miles]

This is a sweep it under the rug situation.

[Isaac]

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Don't let anyone know. Okay.

[Hayden]

Or.

[Isaac]

Or I can go up and get myself a nice little house.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Miles]

You don't need a business plan. Some gonna love that.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Should have a rebound book too.

[Miles]

You also can upcharge. You could have a resident therapist living there as well. You know, like some. Some hairstylists will just have like a little salon in the back of their house. And then, like, they'll just cut hair out of their house. You just have a little. One. One room therapist office. And then you can upcharge them for them talking to a therapist while they live there.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Are you still in school?

[Isaac]

Oh, oh, I'm done with school now.

[Charlie]

Well, maybe go back.

[Hayden]

You know how it is.

[Charlie]

Yeah, I know how it is. You could go back and get your BA and bs and you could be a, you know, be a therapist.

[Isaac]

A psychologist.

[Hayden]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Now I'm going to get myself.

[Miles]

That might.

[Hayden]

That might. That might be.

[Isaac]

That might be. That might be too much of an investment.

[Miles]

Yeah. We're starting to get away from.

[Isaac]

I'll just pick someone up off the street. Stick them in a closet and say they can be the.

[Charlie]

Well, sounding a little illegal the way you're saying it now.

[Isaac]

Well, I'll pay him. I'll pay him. I'll pay him.

[Miles]

Okay, that is better.

[Charlie]

You'll pay them? Yeah, Just. Yeah. And maybe stick them in some other than a closet.

[Isaac]

That's the only room I got.

[Charlie]

Unfortunately for them now, but once his business takes off, you can afford. You can afford a full studio, so.

[Hayden]

Well, that is true.

[Isaac]

So they'll get a little upgrade.

[Charlie]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good. Well, glad we could help you out here today.

[Isaac]

Okay. Well, I appreciate it. Good to get that off of my chest.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Well, I'm glad you called in, man. This is great. Don't worry, she's gonna be back.

[Charlie]

She'll be back. She'll be your first custom.

[Keith]

Sure, but I'm playing it.

[Isaac]

I'm planning on it.

[Miles]

I'll give it.

[Keith]

I'll give it.

[Miles]

To help out with the rent cost for a couple months. Just donate plasma and then you'll get through it. She'll be back.

[Charlie]

Yeah. Plasma and sperm.

[Isaac]

That's a lot of plasma.

[Charlie]

Yeah, that's why you got more than one fluid.

[Miles]

Well, all right, man. Well, have a good one. Thanks for calling today.

[Isaac]

Yeah, I'll see you guys later. And Charlie, I'll see you in Nebraska in a couple months. Yeah.

[Charlie]

Oh, nice. Yeah, I'm going to Nebraska, Miles.

[Isaac]

Yeah, I'll see you there in a couple months.

[Charlie]

That'll be fun. Thanks for coming out. Bring your cousin. We'll talk about our relationship on stage.

[Isaac]

I'll convince her now. Okay.

[Charlie]

All right. Real good. We'll see you soon. Thank you for calling in.

[Miles]

It's a pretty good idea.

[Charlie]

I mean, it's not a bad idea. The Ronald McDonald House for Broken hearts. I mean, Chase, that's what I'm talking about right there.

[Miles]

I mean, that's what we're here for, this podcast for. Charlie.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I mean, I wasn't sure how you were going to one up my half baked idea, but you somehow pulled some almost fully baked out of that oven. Miles. Few little details here and there you got to work out, but what are people. What are you doing moving in with a boyfriend that cheated on you? Like, you know, why is everyone moving in right away?

[Miles]

Because rent is so expensive.

[Charlie]

But she's got cheap rent with her cousin.

[Miles]

Yeah, maybe he's not making her pay rent. Maybe that was the deal. Honey, come back to me. I won't make you pay rent.

[Charlie]

She's like, yeah, yeah, screw this. Cousin thing.

[Miles]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

Well, should we do another car, Miles?

[Miles]

Let's do it.

[Charlie]

Oh, yeah. Tell me about the bar business.

[Narrow]

We're always looking for a profit center in the bar business. Hamburgers, tap beer, liquor, whatever. And I found the magic formula.

[Charlie]

What is it?

[Keith]

Here we go.

[Charlie]

I mean, yeah, let's hear it.

[Narrow]

Are you ready for this?

[Charlie]

I'm ready.

[Narrow]

An empty condom machine in the women's bathroom.

[Charlie]

Really think about it. I'm thinking, and I'm not coming up with the answer.

[Narrow]

What kind of a thinker are you?

[Charlie]

Not a good one. Empty condoms, women's bag.

[Narrow]

So the little lady at closing time, I think she scored a stallion. Correct. And she wants protection. She goes in and feeds the machine a buck, and it doesn't puke out a condom. Is she gonna come out and bitch?

[Miles]

No. No, she's not. That's smart. That is good profit center.

[Charlie]

Wow.

[Miles]

I was also gonna say that's smart.

[Charlie]

That is. That is.

[Narrow]

That's all I have for you today.

[Charlie]

That was really brilliant. Thank you very much. That is perfect. Well, Miles, you know, we learn something every day here on the belly.

[Miles]

You just never know what you're gonna learn at the bar. That's what I love so much about it.

[Charlie]

It's a beautiful thing. Well, should we take another caller?

[Miles]

Let's do it.

[Keith]

What's up, boys? It's Keith.

[Charlie]

What's up, Keith? Bellying up to the bar. What's on your mind, my guy?

[Keith]

Well, you know, said y'all were taking rants. I mean, I was just laying here scrolling through tick tocks, and I saw a notification. I was like, oh, let's go. But I kind of got two things I could rant about, one of which is, is my dog, who's staring right at me right now. He's kind of a crappy guard dog. I mean, so. I mean, yeah, he's. He's a good boy, but he's a bad guardian. But the story with that goes, he. So one day I left to go to work. Y'all may remember I called him a while ago working at the golf course. And what was that?

[Charlie]

No, quick reminder. What. What were you doing at the golf course? We've had a few golf course people come.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah, No, I work on the grounds crew. You know, basically growing grass for a living.

[Charlie]

I'm a. Oh, yes.

[Keith]

Glorified lawnmower. Yeah.

[Charlie]

Yes, yes. So you go to work at the golf course?

[Keith]

Yeah. So I left for work and, you know, normal day. Got home and, well, I came home to find he had Hershey Squirted all over my living room, which was great. So I cleaned that up. Oh yeah.

[Miles]

Well why are you feeding him chocolate?

[Charlie]

Yeah, you gotta think that's not good.

[Miles]

I don't think everyone knows that that's not good.

[Charlie]

Chocolate and onions don't do it.

[Keith]

Yeah, yeah, that'll do it. It was nasty, but yeah. So I cleaned that up and I'm alright. So I take them outside, play fetch and I have a chair by my back window in the backyard. And I keep feeling this cold, coldness I guess on my back. I'm like, what is that? I turn around, the back window had been pried open. So I was like, oh, that's what that is. I was like, no way. I left it open because I don't open that window. So the bat find out. I guess someone had, yeah, someone had jumped over the fence and tried to pry open my back window and I guess got in and they didn't take much, they just kind of got whatever they could, but it ended up being a broken phone and just some random stuff in my kitchen. But I mean I just pissed me off because while they were taking my shit, my dog was just taking a shit.

[Charlie]

Multiple. Multiple?

[Keith]

Yeah, just multiple. I mean, just, just. And it's good to know that, you know, he's gonna protect my stuff, I guess.

[Miles]

Why do you think your house was targeted?

[Keith]

I don't know. So what the cop told me here in Lubbock is a lot of people will when they're trying to break in places, they're trying to get in just to find stuff to pond and it's usually, usually firearms, but so that like, that makes sense why they took the broken iPhone that was on my counter. So yeah, they're just seeing what they can get into and they were able to pry a window open.

[Miles]

So.

[Keith]

Okay, so take a few things.

[Miles]

So you're telling me this was a back door to door salesman?

[Keith]

I don't know if it was a salesman.

[Miles]

I mean he was. But taking your shit and selling it to the pawn shop, sounds to me like he's a salesman.

[Isaac]

Oh yeah?

[Hayden]

Yeah.

[Keith]

What kind of a. I guess that makes sense.

[Miles]

That's where we're at in America, Charlie. We went from door to door salesman to back door to door salesman. That just take your shit and then pawn it off.

[Charlie]

Sounds like the window's involved too. I, I, so you got one problem here and that's that you gotta fix your window now. And your other problem is that your dog's a terrible. What kind of a dog is he?

[Keith]

So he's a. He's a. The. He's a mix. I mean, I found him as a puppy. He was abandoned, but he. His main. He's knocking over all my shit in here. He's a black mouth cur, which is a herding dog from frontier Southern America. So they're pretty cool dogs. He's too smart for his own good, but. Yeah. Well, he kind of looks scary sometimes.

[Charlie]

Yeah. So, I mean, I think. See, we took the wolf, okay, and the wolf was the ultimate guard dog. All right? And then we start breeding the wolf with, like, ferrets and lizards and stuff, and now you end up with all these other bastardized versions of wolves, and they're not doing what a wolf is supposed to do. So I think if you want a guard dog, you can't roll the dice with a mutt. You got to go full bore and just buy yourself a wolf somewhere. Now, the DNR may have a problem with that, but it's just a question of how much.

[Miles]

Well, then you could just plead self defense, you know.

[Charlie]

Yeah. The wolf may also kill you. So you want to think about the limitations of this argument. But, yeah, dogs, it's. It's tough to find one that's going to attack the bad guys and not accidentally bite some kid's hand, you know? And then you got to.

[Keith]

Well, yeah, I guess you do win some, you lose some. But I'll take this one. He's pretty good otherwise.

[Miles]

You said you had another rant for us. What else do you have on your mind?

[Keith]

Oh, okay. This one is kind of towards Texas Parks and Wildlife, so. Well, backstory, I guess, on this one is my girlfriend's dad has a nice piece of property near the Red river on the border of Texas and Oklahoma. And it's got. It's a high fence, and it's just got. I mean, too many massive bucks. If I could send you.

[Miles]

God, that is. That's the worst, Charlie.

[Charlie]

When there's just too many piece of.

[Miles]

Property and you just have trophy deer on there. That's the worst.

[Keith]

Yeah, the problem. The problem comes in that CPWD has shut down that area for the last few years because of some. That chronic wasting disease.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

So they're no good.

[Hayden]

We can.

[Keith]

That's no good.

[Miles]

Well, the old quarantine situation.

[Keith]

Yeah. And it's been basically.

[Miles]

This is the Chernobyl along the Red River.

[Keith]

Yeah, a little bit. But we. We guaranteed now that there's no CWD out there. We just have to get Parks and Wildlife to come out and actually test which We've done my. I guess we'll call them. My future father in law has done tests and it's hyphen, so we know we would know if there was some. But TPWD just won't come out and do their test.

[Miles]

Well, what's holding them up?

[Charlie]

This is Texas. Don't you guys have enough money for that there red tape.

[Keith]

Red tape all day.

[Miles]

But yeah, the saying is everything's bigger in Texas. Not everything is faster moving in Texas. That's true.

[Charlie]

That's true.

[Keith]

No, no, definitely not.

[Miles]

What's the holdup? Is it just, you know, government being slow or what?

[Keith]

Yeah, just the red tape of bureaucracy.

[Charlie]

The old red tape of bureaucracy. Well, you can always walk over that red tape, shoot one of the bucks and roll the dice with. Yeah, you might end up in jail. Worst case, get cwd.

[Keith]

Yeah, I mean, I think humans can.

[Hayden]

Is the problem.

[Charlie]

Yeah, they had a couple cases of it. Humans getting CWD this year. I think we can Google that, but. Yeah, I mean, how'd your father in law test for those things anyway?

[Hayden]

You.

[Keith]

You basically have to kill a deer. That's what I was gonna send them to a lab.

[Charlie]

So he already poached one of the gears.

[Keith]

Well, you. The. You have to basically get a, I think a special tag to basically say, like, oh, I'm sending it to a lab to get it tested to make sure. But I don't know how he did it. We just know there's none on there.

[Miles]

I'm gonna be honest with you. This guy sounds like he did not get that necessary tag.

[Charlie]

Yeah. I'm also gonna be honest with you. I don't know if, you know by one sample if it doesn't exist there still.

[Keith]

That's fair. That's fair. I'm just. I just want to go out there and. I mean, my girlfriend sent me a video from her mom. They were in their main pasture. I think in just a three second clip, I saw five or six, ten pointers just standing all around eating.

[Charlie]

And we just have an update on my news story. No CWD infections in people have ever been reported. So I was 1000% wrong. Thousand percent wrong. You know, and that's why you don't. I think I must have dreamed it, really. There's nothing here. Anyways, thank you for that. I would say don't give it a go. Just hold. Wait for the Texas people to do their thing.

[Hayden]

Hold.

[Charlie]

Do not fire and. Yeah, just keep her moving. All right.

[Keith]

Wait for turkey season this spring.

[Hayden]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

There's other things to shoot but good luck with it, my guy.

[Miles]

Thanks for calling in.

[Keith]

I appreciate it. Yeah, I was surprised to see you all taking calls day. Well, I appreciate you picking up. And if you ever make it down to Lubbock and then want to drink down here, I got a few spots for you.

[Miles]

All right.

[Charlie]

Appreciate you.

[Miles]

Have a good one.

[Keith]

Yeah.

[Miles]

Way to go, Jake. Yeah, Terrible, terrible situation they're in with all his huge bucks.

[Charlie]

I know. It's just tempting.

[Miles]

I hate when that happens.

[Charlie]

I'm surprised, honestly, in Texas that they haven't been poached already, you know?

[Miles]

Like, I hate it when you're like, you know, in the deer stand, you're ready to take the shot, and then all of a sudden, another huge buck behind you standing there. Then you whip around and then that startles another big buck that's standing broadside.

[Charlie]

Always happens, dude.

[Miles]

I hate that. Always happens, you know, and all of a sudden it's like, I need three guns.

[Charlie]

Three gun shots. I know.

[Miles]

Should we take another caller?

[Charlie]

Let's do it.

[Miles]

Charlie.

[Charlie]

Hi, Miles.

[Miles]

Black Friday, it used to be fun. Did it when you're a kid? I guess.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

You know, I remember Black Fridays when it was like, oh, let's go to the store and let's get a good deal. And now people are getting trampled and it's starting on Monday instead of Friday. It's going crazy. And Black Friday can be stressful.

[Charlie]

It can. I never like Black Friday. I was a pretzel boy and that was the worst day to roll. Pledge those on Black Friday. But anyway, for the purposes of this, I understand what you're saying, but how can we make Black Friday fun again?

[Miles]

Miles, you need to relax after a nice day of shopping with a glass of Tippy Cow. Charlie on back, there's no reason to have a cow instead. You should drink a Tippy Cow. So, guys, seriously though, relax a little bit this holiday weekend.

[Charlie]

That's good, man. It is good.

[Miles]

It is good. Yeah. And relax. Have a tippy Cow. Don't worry about all that other stress you got.

[Charlie]

No. Tip it on back, baby. Tippy cow.

[Miles]

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[Charlie]

I've been injured, Miles. I had a. I had a Garage door fall, my head once. You never know.

[Miles]

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[Charlie]

And they only get paid if you get paid.

[Miles]

That's right.

[Charlie]

Why not get some for that insurance year that they're bleeding out of you every month? Call Nicolet, baby.

[Hayden]

Hey fellas, this is Hayden. Hayden, Hayden from Utah.

[Miles]

Hayden from Utah. Wait, wait, wait.

[Charlie]

The Hayden from Utah?

[Keith]

The Hayden?

[Hayden]

That's correct.

[Charlie]

Hayden. Belly on up to this bar, my guy. The hell is on your mind this time?

[Hayden]

I'll tell you. I, I called in last, I think it was last November asking your guys's advice on what I should do to get a raise. So this is my bellied update.

[Miles]

Okay, we got from Hayden in Utah. Remind the folks what Charlie and I told you to do.

[Charlie]

Not that we don't remember, but the.

[Hayden]

Folks, sure, yeah, it would be a pleasure. So I called you guys about a job that I had. It was a, not a self starter job but definitely not like a huge employer job. There was just a couple of us there. I had at the time of the call been there almost a year and was just looking to see how I could get a raise. And you guys gave me some pointers to just go in there, ask for it pretty much outright but in a, not in a roundabout way.

[Keith]

That was, that's the recap for the.

[Miles]

So we told you to go in there and just ask for a damn raise.

[Hayden]

You pretty much told me to sit down and say, hey look, I'll, I'll walk if you guys don't. Oh yeah, there's nowhere else to walk to in the area. But you know, that was the, that was the get go.

[Miles]

That sounds like get in there and.

[Hayden]

Just kind of ask for it.

[Miles]

Yeah, sounds like four beers.

[Charlie]

Deep advice.

[Miles]

All right, well let's hear the update. Let's hear the update.

[Hayden]

All right, here's, here's the update. I've been waiting to give it to you guys since, since I gave you the call. So I believe I called you on a Thursday because I had worked that morning and then my next week's schedule was a Monday and Tuesday because I was still a student going to school Monday I didn't ask because it was kind of, I could tell the boss man wasn't in the Greatest of moods, right? Gotta make sure you're in the best scenario. Best give. Give yourself the best case. So I tried to ask him. On Tuesday, I walk in. So how the office was set up is the chemical place. That was that. I was working on the warehouse because.

[Charlie]

No one else could mix a chemical.

[Miles]

Right.

[Charlie]

Steve.

[Hayden]

With the chemical that he fell. Right. You guys remember that?

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Hayden]

Yep. So we have almost the whole warehouse was, you know, the chemicals and the line and all that stuff. And then there's a big garage door opening. But we kept that closed in the winters, obviously, because it gets cold. So I would go in and out at this time through the office where my boss was. So I walked in on Tuesday thinking about when I should ask for this raise. And my boss says, hey, Hayden, why don't you take a seat? And so I sat down and I was. I was maybe thinking maybe he had listened to the podcast already, but it hasn't come out yet. So I sit down and he just actually tells me, you know, we're gonna let you go.

[Charlie]

Oh, no way.

[Miles]

No way.

[Hayden]

Let me explain here. No, I'm completely serious. It's a funny joke now. It's a very funny joke now. But I was completely blindsided by it. I sat down and I was so ready to. And I'm thinking everything you guys were telling me. I was thinking about how I should word this. And he just drops the bomb on me first and tells me, hey, yeah, we're gonna let you go.

[Miles]

It's like. It's like going to a dinner, Charlie, like, ready to propose to a girl, and she dumps you while you got the ring in your pocket.

[Charlie]

That's exactly what you should have asked him for. A raise right there, just to see.

[Keith]

So.

[Hayden]

So I guess. Well, let me. Let me still fill in the listeners from a while ago is my job was to do chemical titrations and mixing and all that whatnot. But the other half of my job was to put aluminum parts on what would go on the assembly line through the chemicals. That was the other part of my job. And they just didn't think to my productivity of that second part was up to par with the other. Other fella. It had nothing to do with the chemical stuff because I was really the only one that was doing that.

[Miles]

So maybe you were a little bit too focused on the other half of the job and not enough on the one that was really keeping you there, huh?

[Hayden]

I. I mean, looking back, it's totally, totally at all, totally possible. You're darn right so, anywho. So then to get into my. Into the. What's grinded my gears is I left there thinking I was gonna go in and get a raise two days beforehand, and they were thinking to the same two days beforehand how they're gonna give me the freaking boot. And so it's just kind of funny how we had two completely different mindsets, but they didn't tell me anything. They didn't give me any sort of. You got to pick up your production. I mean, I wouldn't have asked for a raise if I didn't think I was doing a good job. So.

[Charlie]

Wow.

[Hayden]

The communication wasn't there at all, but they let me go.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you misread the situation. Classic case of it, Miles. Classic case.

[Miles]

So what's your job now?

[Hayden]

So, for a while, because I was still in school and I was going to graduate. Couple bellied updates. I did graduate from school.

[Charlie]

Congrats.

[Hayden]

I graduated in the spring. Thank you very much. So now I work with an optometrist here, and it's only about six to seven minutes away from my place, so it's a lot closer than my other job was.

[Miles]

All right, well.

[Hayden]

And it pays more, so it's an upgrade. I got that raise after just a couple months. Decided to be a different gig.

[Miles]

Yeah. So what you need to do on Monday, you need to walk in there and you need to look them right in the face. You say, I want a race. Yeah, I think you're too. You're due for a raise.

[Charlie]

Go away. And how. How long you been working there now?

[Hayden]

So I've been working there just since I graduated. I got the gig there, middle of June.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlie]

Ask for time for a raise.

[Miles]

Yeah, it is.

[Charlie]

You do.

[Miles]

Well.

[Hayden]

Well, let me tell you. Let me tell you this. I was in training pay for a while, right? Because I think that's reasonable. You're learning and you're in training pay. So I was in training pay for a long time, and I even asked my boss maybe 10 days ago, I said, hey, I feel pretty, like, pretty much like I can handle the job by myself. I have for a while. What else would I need to do in this training so I can have my pay adjusted accordingly? And he said, oh, yeah, I'll adjust it. And he didn't adjust it until yesterday, I believe. So I can't go and ask him for a raise when he just adjusted my training pay. Well, my normal regular pay.

[Miles]

Yeah, that's maybe not a. Not a great situation, but he just got a raise.

[Charlie]

Oh, he did. So I was doing a little selfie right there. So he's got.

[Hayden]

That's all right. I just, I just like to see that selfie somewhere.

[Charlie]

No, I fella came up and asked for a picture. I was doing, I was being Midwest. Nice. And therefore I missed that of the conversation. So. Oh, so you got a race already.

[Miles]

He went from training pay to regular pay.

[Charlie]

Oh, well, yeah, that counts. Yeah, yeah. Give it a few more months.

[Hayden]

It, it counts. It counts. Yeah, yeah, it counts. Well, so that's, that's the biggest bellied update that I have for you guys. What else was grinding my gears.

[Charlie]

Well, we appreciate you calling in, giving us the go on that, my guy. Thank you very much.

[Miles]

I'd like to. And then say for all future raise advice. Charlie.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

I think what we need to do, this great lesson from Hayden here is just quit your job and get a higher paying job instead of asking for a raise. Avoid that conflict.

[Charlie]

You know, I think that's actually not a bad idea.

[Hayden]

It was kind of the move.

[Miles]

It's called the failing upwards, I believe.

[Charlie]

Failing upwards. It happens in all forms.

[Miles]

Look at us.

[Charlie]

I mean you're looking at a couple of failures here listening to them at least. But here we are kind of like.

[Hayden]

Tripping up the stairs, I guess.

[Charlie]

Hey, well, however you get up there, it's all that matters. Well, thank you for calling in. Thanks for the bellied update.

[Hayden]

Yeah.

[Charlie]

And yeah, give it a few more months and you'll get that other raise.

[Hayden]

Yeah. Well, you guys have a great day and I was just going to give you. I was just going to pass by some quicker grind my gears comments here. I just think like when you're watching a football game and they're ready to line up for the pat and then the officials come on the field and want to review the play, that always grinds my gears. Like what took so long, right?

[Charlie]

I like that you just toss that one on the end there.

[Miles]

I like how that was kind of just like, that was just kind of like a deadpan stand up bit there.

[Charlie]

It was good. It was good.

[Miles]

What's the deal with these refs? What were they doing?

[Hayden]

What's the deal with these refs and all their tinkering on the field? Yeah, maybe I got a career.

[Charlie]

I think you do, Hayden.

[Hayden]

No, maybe not.

[Charlie]

Fail upwards. That's exactly what it is.

[Miles]

Next time we talk to him, he's gonna be selling out arenas. It's a comic.

[Charlie]

Yeah, you got bright future, Charlie.

[Hayden]

You want to come on my tour?

[Charlie]

Yeah, I'll be on your tour. I'LL be there.

[Miles]

Hayden from Utah. Charlie Barron's is opening in Bemidji.

[Charlie]

Hey there, folks.

[Hayden]

Do you mind if I plug my tour right now?

[Charlie]

Ye. Plug your tour, you piece of shit. I see what you're doing right there now. Now I got. Now I'm getting my gears ground. By the way, folks, tickets you can [e-mail]. hayden, you're the best, man.

[Hayden]

I'm just joking.

[Charlie]

No, I'm joking too. I don't think you're a piece of shit. Sorry for saying that.

[Hayden]

One more bellied up.

[Charlie]

Oh, sure.

[Hayden]

That girlfriend that I have is my wife now.

[Charlie]

So update after update.

[Miles]

Wow, you guys having any kids?

[Hayden]

And Charlie, we dated for two months or, sorry, two years and two months.

[Charlie]

So, yeah, I think that's.

[Hayden]

I feel like that's great. I know a lot of callers come in asking for advice and they're 19, and I always love to hear your input on that.

[Charlie]

Wait, how old are you again?

[Hayden]

I'm 25.

[Charlie]

Yeah, it'll work. It'll work.

[Miles]

Oh, yeah, see, no, no, I'm not.

[Charlie]

High five, high five.

[Miles]

Jake, earlier you literally someone who was 25. That's never going to work.

[Charlie]

Let me ask, have you ever cheated on your wife and got back together with her?

[Hayden]

No, she. We went on. We went on our first date and we didn't see anyone else.

[Charlie]

All right, well, there you have it. That I. That sounds solid. Miles is just trying to put every round peg into my square hole and it's feeling a little weird. Okay. Put words in my mouth.

[Miles]

All right, Hayden, well, good to talk to you, man. Congrats on failing upwards. We'll talk to you later.

[Hayden]

Hey, guys, thanks for picking up the call. It was great to hear from you again.

[Charlie]

You bet. All right, we'll see you soon now.

[Miles]

You ever failed upwards? Actually, Charlie, you got a story for us?

[Charlie]

Failed upwards. Yeah, I mean, in a lot of ways, the news business I was in failed at that. Took all the failures of it, put it into a standup bit, and then that was beginning the man twig minute. Failing upwards, baby.

[Miles]

That's what it's all about.

[Charlie]

You Miles.

[Miles]

I had a media business that didn't do very well, and then I did. You betcha. And it took off.

[Charlie]

So there you go.

[Miles]

So my first media business didn't go so well.

[Charlie]

Yeah.

[Miles]

But now in my defense, I was putting other people on camera during that.

[Charlie]

Hey, you just need to have your. Your baby face up there, you know, talking about how you don't like spotted cow and. Yeah, from there it was. It was.

[Miles]

Rest is history.

[Charlie]

Oh, my gosh, it's cold.

[Miles]

Well, Charlie, got another good episode of the Bellied up podcast.

[Charlie]

Fantastic episode indeed. And listen, folks, I got to tell you, if you're out there thinking, should I tip my bartender? Tip them double.

[Miles]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, well, cheers, Charlie. See you guys in the next one.

[Keith]

Bye.

[Charlie]

Bye, now.