The Skincare Ingredients That Don’t Live Up to the Hype

Summary

Biohacking Beauty: The Anti-Aging Skincare Podcast

Episode: The Skincare Ingredients That Don’t Live Up to the Hype
Hosts: Anastasia (B) & Amitai (C), Founders of Young Goose
Date: October 15, 2025

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Overview

In this spirited episode, hosts Anastasia and Amitai deliver unfiltered opinions on trendy skincare ingredients, routines, and industry myths. They challenge persistent influencer claims, debunk overhyped products, and share personal takes on what truly works for anti-aging and skin longevity. Real talk replaces protocol deep-dives as the hosts discuss skincare science, ingredient fads, and long-term strategies for healthy skin.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Niacinamide: Overhyped Ingredient?

[02:54–09:28]

• Amitai calls out widespread overuse of niacinamide, especially at high concentrations (10%) and frequent application, linking this to irritation and subpar long-term results.
  • "If you're using like 10% niacinamide twice a day and then wondering why your skin is irritating, rapidly aging, not improving... that's why." — Amitai [03:33]
• Anastasia offers a more moderate stance: Niacinamide has proven short-term benefits, especially in lower concentrations. But it's becoming outdated as better options emerge.
  • "It's an outdated ingredient. It does have some clinical data... but there are better alternatives now." — Anastasia [04:11]
• Biochemistry explained: Niacinamide is an NAD precursor, but its chronic use backfires.
  • Amitai explains the Preiss-Handler pathway and the issue of signaling, comparing it to taking steroids and creating bodily dependency. Chronic use can signal the body to decrease its own NAD production, limiting long-term benefit.
  • "Research... is short term—one, two, three months... Chronic use for a year or two is counterproductive." — Amitai [07:13]
• Their take: Niacinamide isn't hazardous in occasional, lower-dose use (like weekly in exfoliants), but isn't the miracle it's hyped to be. Focus on NAD-boosters that bypass problematic pathways.

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2. Mythbusting: Trends and Influencer Claims

[09:29–11:07]

• Hydration as a panacea:
  • "Just drink more water and your skin will glow." — Anastasia [09:44] (sarcastically referencing bad advice)
  • Both agree overemphasizing water ignores real causes of skin dullness—cell turnover, mitochondrial health, oxidative stress—while just chugging water won't make a skin transform unless someone is severely dehydrated.
  • "Glow comes from... cell turnover, from energy production, from reducing oxidative stress, not just chugging a gallon of water." — Anastasia [10:43]

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3. Procedures & Products: What to Avoid, What to Embrace

• Never-again treatment:

  • Both hosts agree that radiofrequency microneedling and radio frequency devices are procedures they'd skip in the future, though details are glossed over due to an ad break. [11:13]

• Underrated 'Miracle' Ingredient:

  • Spermidine—frequently misunderstood, with much of the conversation online focusing on its name rather than its scientific merit. It's an autophagy activator essential for cellular cleaning and skin longevity.
  • "Spermidine is a legit autophagy activator... huge for skin longevity." — Amitai [13:29]
  • "Oral spermidine is great for systemic benefits, but... for visible changes... deliver it topically and pair it with other longevity molecules like NAD." — Anastasia [13:49]

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4. Popular Skincare Shortcuts: Empty Promises

[14:42–16:27]

• Collagen Drinks:
  • Marketed as anti-aging magic, but most of the time only helpful for amino acid deficiencies, not real skin transformation.
  • "If it's the only thing [collagen drinks] they do for their skin... It's not going to move the needle." — Anastasia [14:44]
  • "Pouring new bricks into a building that still has termites." — Amitai's analogy [15:52]
  • "It's an optimizing molecule... but really more of a deficiency replenishing molecule." — Amitai [15:58]

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5. Counterproductive Habits and Underutilized Game-Changers

Over-exfoliating [17:01–18:26]

• Amitai:
  • Short-term: skin feels smoother.
  • Long-term: thins barrier, invites inflammation, ultimately ages the skin.
  • "Over-exfoliating... damages their barrier, they're inviting chronic inflammation..." — Amitai [17:41]
• Anastasia:
  • Barrier function is foundational; a damaged barrier leads to aging and dullness, not "glassy" skin.

Overlooked Ingredient: Methylene Blue [19:11–22:42]

• Both hosts are bullish on methylene blue as a mitochondrial enhancer and photoaging fighter. It's still niche outside biohacker circles, but they're developing a topical product combining methylene blue, peptides, and NAD precursors.
  • "It's like sunscreen for your mitochondria." — Amitai [21:08]
  • "Synergistic with red light therapy... the light amplifies the mitochondrial benefits." — Anastasia [21:20]

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6. Rapid Fire: Mythbusting & Industry Commentary

[24:27–32:56]

• Pore Myths:

  • "Pores don’t open and close... They're not tiny windows you can shut with cold water." — Amitai [24:36]

• Celebrity skincare lines:

  • Often overpriced, white-label products with little evidence.
  • "You're paying for their PR budget, not performance." — Anastasia [25:25]
  • "Brad Pitt's product line... he doesn't know how to pronounce the name." — Amitai [26:14]
  • Some lines (like Road) are affordable and transparent about their intent (not promising anti-age miracles, just branding).

• Silly fads:

  • Collagen yarn face wraps are mocked: "Collagen doesn't absorb, so collagen yarn... I don't even know what that is." — Amitai [29:12]

• Best underrated pro treatment:

  • Chemical peels (done strategically): Series of peels matched to skin biology (e.g., glycolic acid + copper peptides) can remodel and rebuild for long-term skin health.
  • "Get the best of both worlds: remodeling plus rebuilding." — Amitai [30:45]

• Single best change for listeners:

  • Protect your skin barrier.
  • "Protect your barrier like your life depends on it. For your skin's health, it kind of is." — Anastasia [31:57]
  • Barrier-thriving skin maximizes every other intervention and hack.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Niacinamide skepticism:

  • "People need to know that niacinamide is an NAD boosting molecule... But if you use it every day, your body is going to balance itself off and make less NAD." — Amitai [06:23]

• Skin hydration myth:

  • "Glow comes from inside, from cell turnover, from energy production... not just chugging a gallon of water a day." — Anastasia [10:43]

• On pursuing only collagen supplementation:

  • "Without protecting those collagen fibers from breakdown with antioxidants, longevity molecules, mitochondrial support, you're basically pouring new bricks into a building that still has termites." — Amitai [15:52]

• On metal blue as a next-gen ingredient:

  • "It's not sunscreen, but it's really like sunscreen for your mitochondria." — Amitai [21:08]

• Celebrity product cynicism:

  • "Most of them are white label formulas in fancy packaging. And you're paying for their PR budget, not performance." — Anastasia [25:25]

• Closing catchphrase:

  • "Stop chasing quick fixes and start chasing cell fixes." — Amitai [32:50]

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Timestamps of Major Segments

• Niacinamide discussion/debate: 02:54–09:28
• Influencer myths & hydration: 09:29–11:07
• Spermidine explained: 12:56–14:42
• Collagen drinks debunked: 14:42–16:27
• Over-exfoliating & barrier health: 17:01–18:26
• Methylene blue for longevity: 19:11–22:42
• Rapid fire (myths, celebrity lines, pro treatments): 24:27–31:57
• Key actionable advice: 31:57–32:56
• Catchphrase and conclusion: 32:50–33:15

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Conclusion & Takeaways

• Resist trends: Seek evidence, not influencer hype.
• Question overused staples: Niacinamide and collagen drinks have limitations; don't expect miracles.
• Embrace long-term strategy: Focus on mitochondrial health, autophagy (spermidine), and barrier support.
• Be wary of celebrity marketing: Science, not endorsements, drive results.
• Barrier above all: Skin health and the effectiveness of all interventions depend on a robust barrier.

Final Words:
“Stop chasing quick fixes and start chasing cell fixes.” — Amitai [32:50]

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Welcome to Biohacking Beauty, your Go to Skincare anti aging podcast. I'm your host, Anastasia.

[C]

And I'm your host, Amitai.

[A]

We're the founders of Young Goose Skincare and this is part two of us giving unfiltered opinion.

[C]

Yeah, about different.

[A]

Different topics, different beauty trends.

[C]

Yeah, part one. I mean, it was supposed to be one part, but we had a lot of opinions.

[B]

We talked for two hours.

[A]

Exactly.

[C]

So you get it in two parts. Again, unfiltered opinions. Stuff we text each other about when we're pissed at the influencer saying something.

[B]

Ridiculous that doesn't make any sense.

[C]

Yes, exactly.

[B]

And then we see thousands of people doing it.

[C]

Exactly. Like anyway, you're gonna hear about it. So again, if you really like what we're doing here, head over to yungoos.com you get 10% off with a coupon code. Podcast 10.

[A]

Let's get going.

[B]

Welcome to Biohacking Beauty, your Go to Anti Aging Skincare podcast. So this isn't your usual deep dive into protocols and pathways. This is real talk. Unfiltered opinions. The stuff we text each other about when we see see one more influencer pushing a product or procedure that makes.

[C]

Zero sense to us or another tallow based skin. Never mind. Anyway, so yes.

[B]

No spoilers. No spoilers.

[A]

No spoilers.

[B]

Okay. What's one ingredient you think is widely overhyped right now?

[C]

Niacinamide. And you know, it's like when Talking about like Morpheus 8, I feel bad because it's. It's I mean, it's an Israeli company. Niacinamide. I feel bad because it's an NAD precursor, so it's part of our Whatever. Right. But softwave is also Israeli. So niacinamide, which is this darling ingredient in skincare, is. I mean, it's like the score of the skincare formulation problem first. I think just people are overdoing it. Okay. If you're using like 10% niacinamide twice a day and then you're wondering, like, why, why your skin is irritating, rapidly aging, not improving, all of those things kind of. That's, that's why I can go on. But I don't know what your opinion about it.

[B]

I, I feel like. Well, I feel like niacinamide is very common and you can find a lot of products and it's not a problem, like, and unless it's like 10 and above. So if you have niacinamide here and there in your skincare formulas and it's at lower percent, it can be beneficial, you know, for different things. For somebody with like, it can be a good brightener, for example. But then it just, it's one of those. What I'm trying to say, it's, it's an outdated ingredient. It does have some clinical data to it to be helpful, but there are better alternatives now. So you shouldn't, like, look to use skincare with niacinamide. But if you happen to have, let's say, a product that has some niacinamide, don't rush to, like, throw it in the garbage after what you just heard them saying.

[C]

Unless that's where I disagree with you. Okay, here's. Okay, we found a disagreement.

[B]

Well, I think niacinamide is great in the right dose and context. And when using products that aren't used on daily basis.

[C]

Oh, that's. Yeah, you got the point there. And here's why I think. But the problem is skincare, and that's. I talk about it a lot when we talk about, you know, skin, like prescription skincare, like tretinoin or rapamycin or things that are very extreme and shouldn't be used every day. And niacinamide isn't like, it doesn't have that. That associated with it. But people need to know that niacinamide is, is an NAD boosting molecule. And the research showing it helps anything is because of that NAD boosting. The problem is, is that it is like, it's. It's not. I'm gonna give an example which just will understand which, which, which would make someone understand the concept. It's like someone taking steroids because you will be like a man taking testosterone because then the body is going to make less testosterone.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Because niacinamide is the waste material of NAD usage. It's called the priesthandler pathway. And that basically signals that you used.

[A]

A lot of nad.

[C]

So yes, your body then is going to take that extra niacinamide you gave it and make nad.

[A]

But on average, if you used it.

[C]

All the time, first of all, it's not great at boosting NAD levels for the long term. That's number one. And if you use it every day, your now body is going to kind of balance itself off and it's going to make less NAD and it's going to expect those high levels of exogenous niacinamide. So as an ingredient, just not a great ingredient. And yes, it doesn't work like, you know, NR or nmn, which we normally formulate with nmn. This is a product that kind of bypasses that signaling issue. It's like directly translated to nad. It's like instead of like taking a car and stopping at every stop signal and whatever, it's like taking a chopper. You get to wherever you want without. To the promised land of nad. Without needing to, needing to stop your natural nad. I don't know, that was a really bad example. But anyway, niacinamide is a darling molecule. The research showing that it helps is short term. One month, two months, three months in petri dishes, in in vivo. Again, looking at skin barrier for a short amount of time, chronic use for a year for two years is counterproductive. And that's one of those ingredients that made people believe they need to cycle through their skincare. Like that something works for two or three months and then you need to throw it and use a different type of skincare. That is true with those type of ingredients. Not with ingredients like, you know, NAD Apex or Nadine Noble, which is our older trademark for the system of NAD that we use.

[B]

Yeah, so but we have niacinamide in our exfoliant.

[A]

But since you don't use it every day.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Since you use it like I personally use it probably like once in two weeks, but even if you use it weekly, it's okay.

[C]

And also the type of niacinamide there is kind of a. Has a. It's not like the common niacinamide factor. It has less of that signaling. You know, we're going to come out with a new NAD precursor that works for the presenter pathway. But doesn't have any, any of that singly signaling at all, which is called MN20, which is great. It allows to create more NAD synthesis without going through that orally. There is Biostax, for example, which is a supplement company with a product. I forget NAD region. I think they're called Nuchido Time.

[B]

What about them?

[C]

Their companies, 1M&A. They're companies who use ingredients that are based. They're in the family of niacinamide, of niacin. Niacinamide. But the molecules that they use are molecules that are designed as such not to signal that lowering of natural nad. Actually, sometimes the opposite. One MNA increases the amount of NAD your body makes. And we do it with one of the ingredients in NAD Apex. So bottom line, straight up niacinamide. Not my favorite molecules.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

People can see.

[B]

Okay. What's something influencers say all the time about skincare that just makes you cringe?

[C]

Let's see. Okay. Actually, let me. You, you go first. I don't know. I need to think about it.

[B]

Okay. So I think one of the kind of like the overused advices in that arena would be just drink more water and your skin will glow. I think the reason I'm tired of it is that first of all, if that, if it was that simple, everybody was doing it. Everybody would just not like skincare would not exist if water can solve all of our issues. Right. And another thing is that just also drinking empty water, it's not going to do anything. You're just going to flush your own, like, minerals out of your body. You need to, you know, it's not that simple. You have to add electrolyte, etc. And it's just like, it's just like a very overused advice.

[C]

Yeah. It's like they act as if hydration.

[A]

Is the answer to mitochondrial decline or collagen loss.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Drinking water is great for your kidneys, your brain, your circulation, but unless you're severely dehydrated, it's there. It's not the reason your skin looks dull. Glow comes from inside, from cell turnover, from energy production, from reducing oxidative stress, not just chugging a gallon of water a day.

[C]

Yes, I agree. It's definitely a nice wellness habit. But let's stop pretending it can substitute actual, you know, skin or longevity strategy.

[B]

Okay. What's one skincare procedure you would never do again?

[C]

Radio frequency and radio frequency microneedling.

[A]

Easy.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

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[B]

Okay, if you had to choose just one miracle ingredient that's been completely misunderstood by the industry, what would it be?

[C]

One. Okay, I would say spermidine. And the reason I'm saying it's misunderstood, because half of the videos are people giggling on TikTok about the name.

[B]

But what about this one lady who I now follow and love? She called it goose Spermies.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Because she was talking about spermidine in our products.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

And she didn't know they're not sourced from geese.

[C]

Yes, exactly. And actually, remember, there was a. Even before we came out with spermidine, there was a rumor during the biohacking conference that we produce our products from geese or something like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Anyway, so. But spermidine is a legit autophagy activator. You know, cleaning out cellular junk, recycling, you know, it's. It's called like a. Like a detox pathway, but it's really like a recycling pathway or a rebuilding pathway, which is huge for skin longevity. So that's for me.

[B]

Okay. Okay. So, all right. Well, oral spermidine is great for systemic benefits, but if you want visible changes in your skin texture or pigmentation, you have to deliver it topically and pair it with other longevity molecules like nad. Otherwise, it's just nutrition, not a targeted skin intervention.

[C]

Yeah. What we found in skincare is actually that, like, there is this holy trifecta of actually resveratrol, fermented resveratrol, NAD precursors, and spermidine that works like magic because. Because it's like having the blueprint of the, of a, of a construction crew. You have, you know, the people who clean the people. I mean, like, there is a whole analogy around it. Yeah. Anyway, I have a question for you. What is one anti aging shortcut you wish people would stop chasing?

[B]

Yeah. Collagen drinks. Collagen drinks are. If it's the only thing that they do for their skin or honestly, also, sometimes I see somebody putting collagen powder in their hot coffee, which doesn't make any sense because it's just gonna degrade. Like, if you guys have collagen powder that you put in your coffee, make sure it's your not hot coffee, your iced coffee or something room temperature.

[C]

I think of Lev.

[B]

Yeah. Our son loves saying hot coffee. Okay. I think he associates you with hot coffee because it's all you drink at home. Okay. So I think collagen peptides are great as part of your stack, like your skin, you know, health stack. But if it's just the sole investment you're making, it's not going to move the needle or even like, for, like in the sense of, like, if this is the only supplement you quote, unquote, taking for your skin, I also don't think it's going to move the needle. You're just like missing the point. Without protecting those collagen fibers from breakdown with antioxidants, longevity molecules, mitochondrial support, you're basically pouring new bricks into building that still has termites.

[C]

Yeah, it's a good analogy, actually. I, you know, it's important. I think it's one of those things that people think is a. Is an optimizing molecule, but it's really more of a deficiency replenishing molecule. So if you're not deficient in those amino acids that comprise collagen, your body breaks collagen peptides down too. Then if you're deficient, you're going to see results. If you're not deficient, you're not going to see results.

[B]

But I think in this podcast, we do like a good. I hope. And judging by the good reviews we're getting on this podcast, I think we do a good job of talking about the inside out and outside in approach. So you need to feed your fibroblasts, you know, and you can do that internally through supplements and proper nutrition and of course, you know, looking out for proper ingredients in your topicals.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Okay, your turn. What's a skincare habit that people think is helping them but actually setting them back?

[C]

I would say over exfoliating. You know, I understand the, the, the need or the Want for like smooth glassy skin. So they, you know, scrub or acid. Acid. They use an A wash with acid or you know, exfoliate, whatever, every day. And that was like a big, I would say like a big trend in medical grade skincare, you know, 10, 20 years ago. Zo Obagi Skinceuticals, all of those. And yes, it does make the skin.

[A]

Feel soft for a while.

[C]

But what they're doing in the long run and very similar to what we spoke about, you know, about niacinamide or things like that, they're thinning out their stratum corneum. So they're the top layer of the skin. So you know, they're damaging their barrier, they're inviting chronic inflammation.

[A]

Long term.

[C]

You're making the skin older rather than younger.

[B]

Yeah, 100%. And the irony is that a damaged barrier can make skin look duller and older, which is the opposite of what they're trying to achieve. And yeah, it's like the short term glass skin looking but you know, hopefully, you know, listeners of this photo is looking, you know, into their long term strategy.

[C]

Yeah, I agree.

[B]

So I think, and we've talked about it before, there is, there is just like, it's always this dichotomy of like, I want to look good now. Right. I have a date now. I have something going on now, so I'm going to go ahead over exfoliate. I'm going to look like this glazed donut trend. Right. But you know what? I. What is your skin going to look like in 10 years? What's the reserves of your skin and skin barrier? You know, it's, it's not endless.

[C]

Okay, I have a question for you.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

What is one, you know, ingredient that you think is like underutilized in skincare at the moment?

[B]

Okay, okay. It's a trick question.

[C]

I'm leading the witness.

[B]

Yeah. Yes. Metal and blue.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, sh. Anyway, I wanted to say what's the next. You know, but.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I think so. Metal and blue has been on our radar for a really long time. And honestly, methylene blue is part of almost every like biohacker stack or they're optimizing their mitochondrial function. You know, everybody who's really into longevity, I mean, hardly anyone outside of hardcore biohackers is using it for their skin yet. And since the few topical products on the market right now that offer it have it in extremely low concentration or you have it to make it yourself and risk staining everything, flu. But it's such a powerful mitochondrial enhancer. So we have been researching it for a really long time. It protects against oxidative stress, boosts ATP production, and even helps reverse visible signs of photo aging. I mean, our podcast on melasma and hyperpigmentation got so many like follow up questions and people thanked us to, you know, talking about things that can help, you know, deal with existing melasma or prevent it. And it's just like, you know, people have accumulated a lot of photo aging, so it's, if there is an ingredient that can help mitigate it, it's very much needed right now for the market. Yeah. But in topical form, it can really recharge kind of sluggish skin cells when we're talking about metal and blue. So I don't do think that's. That's next.

[C]

Yeah, I think the data around it is fascinating. Whether it is, you know, protecting fibroblast, you know, from UV damage, stimulating collagen production. It's, it's not sunscreen, but it's really like sunscreen for your mitochondria.

[B]

Oh, my God, be careful.

[C]

It's again, like this is not medical advice, you know, it's, it's like sunscreen for your mitochondria. That's how I feel. But obviously with added benefits aside from that.

[B]

Exactly. Plus it's synergistic with red light therapy. The light actually amplifies the mitochondrial benefits. So that's why we're so excited about the product. You know, we are looking to, to launch this year and very soon that combines metal and blue with peptides and NAD precursors.

[C]

Yeah, that's very cool.

[B]

And we really like, you know, like also spoiler alert. It's just not another serum. It's something that you can easily integrate into your skincare routine. And it's going to be very cost, like what, what's the word? Cost effective, cost effective. But it's, it's not going to break anyone's bank.

[C]

Yeah, hydrate the bank. But I would say, you know, it's, I think people can do, can do the math. Like I said secret spray before and then we're talking about the product we're going to launch. So do the math there. I get, I think this is one of those compounds that, you know, once people started seeing or start seeing the results it can produce, it will become mainstream. Like it would, would be a mainstream skin longevity ingredient like we've predicted about ectoin or, you know, other ones.

[A]

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[B]

Okay, rapid fire questions. What's one skincare myth you wish would disappear forever?

[C]

So we're in. We're in. Rapid fire questions.

[B]

Rapid fire questions.

[C]

Okay, cool, cool, cool. Okay. I would say that pores can open and close for the rest of. They don't have little doors. You know, you can make them look smaller by improving skin elasticity and reducing.

[A]

Debris inside the pore.

[C]

But they're not like tiny windows that you can shut, you know, with cold water, for that matter. Again, favorite trend of dunking your face into ice water.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Steam doesn't open them. Ice cubes don't close them. It's about the structural proteins and the, you know, buildup inside, not the temperature of. Of your tap.

[C]

Yeah. Okay, your turn. What's one product category you think most.

[A]

People are overspending on?

[B]

Celebrity skincare lines? Okay, most of them are white label formulas in fancy packaging. And you're paying for their PR budget, not performance. Unless there is legit science and data behind it, you're better off investing in a product that fans research, not red carpets.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Or if it's an Iranian celebrity, just carpets.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Because they buy carpets. Iranian carpets, Persian car, Persian rugs.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Okay, never mind Persian rugs. Anyway. Okay, I agree with you. I would save, you know, I would say, like, save your money for products that actually signal your cells to change. Yeah, I'm bombarded by the way, with Brad Pitt's product line because you're a.

[B]

Guy and they're trying to bombard guys.

[C]

I would just say he doesn't, he doesn't know how to pronounce the name of his own brand.

[B]

I mean, there was, there's no shortage of like celebrity skincare lines and there, there isn't groundbreaking research behind them. There isn't anything really forward and, you know, innovative about them.

[C]

You can see like road, you know, like road. Each product of road, I know exactly what originally, what, what, what it. This is, this is a dupe of another product.

[B]

But I, at the same time with road, what I appreciate it's, they're very affordable. Right. And they're also catered to younger crowd. And it's definitely a stunning branding. It's like the, the job of like their marketing agency. I think it's been studied in like, now it's one of the most successful launches and rises of a skincare company. I am quote, unquote rooting for them. Well, they've been already sold for a billion dollars. I no longer need to.

[C]

You who were rooting for them, well done.

[B]

I no longer need to root for them. But I just think that, okay, there is a place for that. But at the same time, what's good for them with them at this? They're not trying to say they developed something that's never been done before. They're, you know, they know that they have glorified, I don't know, Aquaphor and Cerave, just like a better branding packaging. But they're also not trying to sound like they're going to change your skin. They're going to reverse lines. That's not part of their branding. Like, their branding is like, you're going to look hot while using this. And that might be, you know, like judging by who is filming their skincare routines, like for hot people only, I don't know, and young and it's fine. But it's, it's like it's other skincare companies that they're led by celebrities, that their whole messaging is like, hey, and I'm not going to name those celebrities. But they're like, they reach their 50s, they look great. We all know why they look great. And then they say, and suddenly they're like, you know what? I have skincare company that I just launched while I'm 50. And then they're trying to attribute them looking great in their 50s to this very new formed Skincare company that is just not factual.

[C]

Yeah. Or they. They have a face wrap with collagen yarn.

[B]

Oh, my God, Yes. I forgot about that.

[C]

The skims, by the way. It doesn't work. Don't buy, don't sell.

[B]

No, no. And it's so. And it's like, it's really sad. It's sold out. Like, it's sold out. So I don't know how many they produced, but I think they produce like thousands or maybe tens of thousands.

[C]

Hundreds of thousands.

[B]

Maybe hundreds of thousands of this. Like. Like collagen yarn masks that you sleep with, but it suffocates your lymph.

[A]

That's many things.

[C]

By the way, collagen doesn't absorb, so collagen yarn. I don't even know what that is.

[A]

To be honest with you.

[B]

According to them, that's their innovation. Biotech.

[C]

Yes, exactly. So the molecule collagen does not absorb into the skin. I know whether it is from yarn or I don't know what. Okay. Anyway, I wonder if they're gonna do all skin clothes now with collagen yarn. Anyway.

[A]

That's a good question.

[C]

Next question.

[B]

It's gonna sell for sure. But it's. That's. Yeah.

[C]

And if Kim Kardashian wants to talk about Yangus, it's. I take everything back.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

And she's the best, and this thing works tremendously well. Anyway.

[B]

I love that.

[C]

Go ahead.

[B]

Okay. We're like super unrapid fired. And now we need to rapid fire.

[C]

That is the slowest firing.

[B]

Okay. What's one professional treatment that's underrated for skin longevity?

[A]

I would say chemical peels.

[C]

They need to be done strategically, but not like some random. It's not like one. One and done. It's not a random aggressive peel like once a year, but instead a. I would say a progressive series of appeals that are tailored to what you're trying to achieve in your biology. As example, you know, close to heart, combining glycolic acid at a. At a. You know that that's matched to your biology with. For resurfacing things like that. Right. With copper peptides for the.

[A]

The post peel regeneration.

[C]

And then you get the best of both worlds. You get remodeling plus rebuilding.

[B]

Yeah, absolutely.

[C]

Okay, so shout out, because obviously we make that product. I just want to make that clear. These are professional pills.

[B]

These are professional pills that you can get with professional providers. And we are now all over United States, so you can probably find a provider in your city, and if not in your city, definitely in your state.

[C]

Yes. And we're unprepared today. But there are already because of you, Anastasia comments in our rating about different places that people want to get information.

[A]

Where they can find providers.

[B]

Yes. But if you should an email to service Angus skincare. No, sorry, servicenoose.com Then your zip code will help you find provider next to you.

[C]

Let's do one more.

[B]

Is there another fire rapid fire question we have prepared?

[C]

Yeah. So for the people listening today, if someone could only change one thing about their skin care tomorrow, what would that be?

[B]

Okay, so I would say protect your barrier like your life depends on it. Because for your skin's health, it kind of is the foundation of your skin health. And compromised barrier makes every product you own less effective.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Like feeding the skin barrier and not, I would say, like fighting against it. You know, like what we named mentioned when we said about retinol or tretinoin. That's when. That's when your skin barrier is thriving. And that's when all of the biohacks, whether it is methylene blue, red light therapy, nad, whatever that is, that's when they can actually do their job in the best way.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And that's how you stop chasing quick hacks and, you know, whatever that is.

[B]

All right. Yeah, so I think that's a wrap on today's.

[C]

One second I had a catchphrase.

[A]

Okay, stop.

[C]

I have a catchphrase. Stop chasing quick fixes and start chasing cell fixes.

[B]

Okay, so that's a wrap for today's episode. We hope it was fun. We hope you learned something new, and we hope it made you think about your routine and maybe, you know, make some changes to it.

[C]

Yeah, I think the point is not to follow our rules. It's to understand the way we think.

[A]

Or the biology behind your skin.

[C]

And so obviously so you can make smarter choices. Right. Trends will come, trends will go. But your skin cells, that's what it is called. Epistemological truth. Like your skin cells will always respond to, you know, the truth, to science. And if there is one takeaway from today, it is this, in my opinion.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. If you enjoyed this episode, let us know. Leave us a review on Apple Podcasts. Share it with someone who is obsessed with their skincare routine or DM us your biggest skincare myth, the best we might tackle it into the future episode.

[C]

Thank you guys for sticking around. That was really, really fun, wouldn't you say?

[B]

I think, yeah, it was very eventful.

[C]

Yeah, very.

[B]

Threw a lot of people under the bus.

[C]

I would say that we started by saying it, we, we will have a lot of disagreements and we didn't have any disagreements.

[B]

No, we had one about that cinema.

[C]

Okay. Yeah, it doesn't count anyway, so if.

[A]

You like what we're doing here, don't.

[C]

Forget to give us a. What's it called? Give us a.

[B]

Give us a review review on Apple.

[C]

Podcasts or anywhere you're listening.

[A]

If you have any questions, leave them in the comments. We answer them most of the time.

[C]

Today we didn't have time to do that. If you really, really like what we're doing here or if you're interested in the way that we think and what does it mean in product production or product formulation. Formulation. Head over to yangoos.com you get 10 off with code podcast 10 and you're gonna get the best products known to man.

[B]

Yeah. And we.

[C]

Do you want to read? What do you want to do?

[B]

Yeah, we should be reading listeners reviews.

[C]

No, that's at the beginning. In the end, we should, we should read the listeners questions.

[B]

Yes, I want to read the review.

[C]

Go ahead, read the review. Break the rules.

[B]

So we received this review that just is really, really touched me, really moved me.

[C]

Oh, I thought you're going to read something like, I want to read a review. Okay, this podcast is good.

[B]

No, no, it's a little bit longer than that. Okay, so it goes. I probably have listened to every single episode at least twice. I'd say that this podcast would be very informative and great guides for anyone that is already in charge of their wellness or someone that has only begun and needs some guidance in navigating this sea of. And health optimization in general. The guests and the hosts are truly inspiring and passionate about instilling and promoting healthy habits. I noticed that every time I listen to these episodes, I actually end up implementing and trying out new health strategies. So this podcast had a great impact on my life. I can't recommend it enough.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Yeah. We received it in April 2025. If it helps you, dear listener, to somehow. And it's by eerie. And then there is a lot of numbers. But I would say eerie.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Thank you so much.

[C]

Yeah. And if you're motivated to even top that with an even greater review, you should, you know, follow your heart.

[B]

Yes. But also, if you don't have so many good things to say, even just one word review would be helpful.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And even if you just say awesome, yeah, I listened to it. That will still be helpful.

[C]

Pretty good.

[B]

Yeah. So if you leave us a review that really helps us reach more people. So please take a moment and leave a rating and review. Thank you.

[C]

Thank you, guys. Anyway, obviously, we're gonna. We're gonna be here next week as well. This has been a very fun podcast to do.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And we'll see you here next time.

[B]

See you.

[C]

Bye.

[B]

Bye, Sam.