C (3:37)

That's literally. I would say that's a fair representation.

A (3:40)

Thank you. Oh, my God. I did a really good job. Thank you so much.

C (3:43)

Your background is also very cute.

A (3:45)

Thank you. This is my new background. I did work with a background person to help me out because it was really struggling. I didn't really take most of her suggestions. I just cleared the space out for the most part and moved my desk, so. So there's that. Jewel, you love this film.

C (4:02)

I do. I love the Devil is Prada. I think I. It. I don't know that I was studying to be. I was. I was a journalist major at the time that I watched this film. I just liked it. I thought it was a good movie. I thought it was. I liked the conflict between her, like, personal and her professional life, between her, like, wanting to be this ambitious person. But, like, how far are you willing to go for it? I thought Miranda Priestley as a character was really compelling to me. I just like the movie.

A (4:30)

Yeah. You love the Devil Wears product.

C (4:32)

I love the Devil Wears product.

A (4:33)

You were a journalist major?

C (4:35)

I was a journalist major and a

A (4:37)

film minor in 2006.

C (4:39)

No, I was in high school, actually. Because I'm thinking about it.

A (4:41)

I'm like, in 2006.

C (4:43)

In 2006, I was in high school. I'm like, why was I writing about it in college? Maybe I just really liked it. I don't know.

A (4:49)

You just really liked it?

C (4:50)

I think I just really. Yeah. So I was in high school. I was not studying to be a journalist. When the Devil Wears product. I was not studying to be a journalist. When the devil wears product. I'm not going to cuss you out on this. On this recording, on this mic, so just leave me alone and do it fast.

A (5:11)

Okay.

C (5:13)

Will do. Why would you call me?

A (5:16)

I was that. You were.

C (5:18)

2006 means I was a freshman in high school.

A (5:20)

Okay.

C (5:20)

Yeah. You still weren't even there, but that's okay. We can. Was in middle school.

A (5:24)

You're older Than me a little bit.

C (5:27)

Not by a lot.

A (5:28)

Just by a couple years.

C (5:32)

I was a freshman in high school, and I don't think I knew I wanted to be because, you know, there's all these movies. Like, I'm thinking, like, how to Lose a guy in 10 days. Like, all the movies about the girls who work in, like, journalism, Mostly fashion journalism.

A (5:44)

Yes.

C (5:45)

And a lot of my colleagues are like, oh, I love that movie because I wanted to be a journalist. And I'm like, I just like the movie because I thought the movie was fun. It was. No way I was watching that movie thinking, this is my future life. I hope actually look a little nightmarish to me, if I'm gonna be honest.

A (5:59)

It wholeheartedly does that nightmares. I will say we were getting hit with, like, working at a publication from all sides. This is the same year that the Hills came out. The Hills came out in 2006. Devil Wears product came out in 2006. Reality TV front, scripted front. We getting hit with.

C (6:14)

It still was going right over my head. Really did not occur to me that I wanted to work at a publication.

A (6:19)

Wow.

C (6:20)

Which is funny because, again, I worked for Teen Vogue. I literally worked for Teen Vogue. Like, even when I was a freelancer, when I would talk to folks the way, like, Anna would be, they'd be like, oh, well, Anna wants. And I'm like, who the hell is Anna? It took me a minute to be like, oh, they talk about that. You don't need to say her damn name. I don't know who. When you talking about Anna wants. Who is Anna? Like, I wintour. How am I supposed to know that that's what you meant when you just talking about this dangling person?

A (6:47)

Anna is a very generic name. I would. I would like some clarification.

C (6:51)

I'm like, where Anna? She work in sales. Who was Anna? And they. Well, Anna, you know, Anna's not happy with such and such. Well, why do we. Okay, so anyway, it did not occur to me in 2006 that I wanted to be a journalist in any capacity. It is funny now to watch the Hills, to watch the Devil Wears product, especially because I worked for, like, Conde. I worked for. I didn't work for Vogue, but I worked for Teen Vogue. Like, all the places to, like, look back with that lens. But back then, it. That looked like a nightmare. It didn't look like nothing I wanted to do.

A (7:21)

Yeah, no, it absolutely did look like a nightmare. And I didn't watch it until last year. 2025 was my first time. Yeah, 2025. Was my first time watching the Devil. I just, like, wasn't a movie person growing up like that. Like, I. I watched, obviously, some movies, some classics. The Devil Wears product was one that I just. It just slipped through the cracks for me. Another one is Legally Blonde. I watched that for the first time last year as well.

C (7:48)

Sequoia. Okay, so were you trying to. Were you being like, I. What made you watch them in 2025?

A (7:54)

Both time I was on planes and they were available on the plane, and I was like, okay, this is a classic. Let me tap in and see what the girl's talking about.

C (8:01)

It's interesting because I'm also not a movie. I wasn't a movie person when I was a kid, so. So there's many times where Ryan will be like, you know, And I'm like, no, I don't know. I ain't never seen you.

A (8:11)

I'm surprised. Ryan knows.

C (8:12)

Ryan is a movie person to his core. If you name a movie, Ryan has probably seen it. He's like, we had all the movie channels when I was a kid. Like, he, like, he loved movies. I don't know nothing about it. Right? Like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I do. I did watch Devil Wears Prada. I did watch Legally. I don't remember when, but I know I watched Legally Blonde. That's so interesting to me that you. Okay, so when you watch him, you know, watch Devil Wears Prada specifically in 2025, what are you thinking?

A (8:43)

Devil Wears Prada. I was enamored. I was like, wow, this is a fantastic film. Like, the humor in it. Meryl Streep, my God, the range on Meryl Streep needs to be studied by everybody who's an aspiring actress or actor. Insane. Insane to me. The script, very well written. Stanley Tucci. Nigel ate. Everybody ate so hard. And I read in preparation for this episode, Stanley Tucci was doing a lot of improvising in his role, whereas Miranda Meryl Sheep was kind of reading the script. And, you know, it was like a really well written script. Stanley Tucci did a lot of improvising. He stole humorous moments for himself.

C (9:27)

Have you gone down the, like, rabbit hole of. I think it was like a book or something that, like, inspired the movie from one.

A (9:35)

It is the Devil Wears product.

C (9:37)

Okay. It was. It called Devil was product. Okay. About. And it was like an assistant of. Of Anna Winters.

A (9:42)

Okay. Oh, I'm not sure if that's who wrote it. I know that that is a story as well. Like, some of the inspiration actually does come from Anna Wintour's direct assistant who was giving this information when she was not supposed to be giving.

C (9:52)

Yeah, there was a book, though. Like, okay, so I don't know if it was that, but yes. So the, like, an assistant wrote a book about what it was like. And it's so fascinating because I'm pretty sure even the, like, steak. Remember she had that lunch that was, like, very specific. There's, like, a portion in the movie where, like, Andy has to go get the lunch, and it has to be, like, just right. Like, the steak has to be, like, damn near rare. Like the potato. Like, it's, like, very specific where her lunch is or whatever. And apparently that's really. Like, some of this was really pulled from real life. Is interesting to me because.

A (10:25)

Yeah, I also saw in that same. I would imagine it's that same assistant person was helping inform the script. So the script was a lot different at first, apparently. And the note that the assistant person or the person who worked directly with Anna Wintour gave is that it wasn't mean enough. She's like, none of the characters are mean enough. Like, let's get more specific. Let's get more biting. Like, Meryl Streep needs to be playing meaner than the script is allowing her to play.

C (10:57)

I think that's why it's so interesting to me now for the sequel, the ways in which Anna Wintour is, like, participating in the promotion of this.

A (11:06)

No, I'm shocked.

C (11:07)

Never done that. In 2006, rumor had it that she was annoyed, like, irritated. This who. You know what I'm saying? Like, and it is very funny to me. And I also think the sound of the times a little bit. Very funny to me that we are now at a point where she's like, if y' all gonna poke fun at

A (11:23)

me, I'm gonna at least be in on it. Because in 2006, it was so bad with, like, people being scared that Anna Wintour was going to be offended by this, that fashion brands did not want to donate to clothing like that. You know, she really wanted to wear Prada. Prada was like, nope. Like, you know, like, actual fashion houses were like, we don't want to upset Anna. Love what you're doing. Sounds really beautiful. Really cool. We won't be a part of it.

C (11:52)

That's interesting.

A (11:53)

Which was unfortunate. Which was deeply unfortunate. Yeah.

C (11:56)

There was also a documentary. Used to be on Hulu. I don't know if it is anymore, but it was a documentary about Anna Wintour, and it was. I think it's called. I'm pretty sure it's called the September Issue because that is always the like, good title. Yes, it's called the September Issue. That's always like the big issue for Vogue. It's around Fashion Week and it takes a long time to prepare for. It's a very thick. Anyway. And so they follow her as she is preparing for it. And it. To me, I just love looking into like magazines and what magazines were like in their heyday and the like production work that went into it. But also kind of, I mean it's like looking at the scenes where she's taking the book home and like bringing it back with edits and things like that. But it, I mean it was the real life Anna Wintour and the doc. I don't know, it's a really fascinating look at, to like what goes into producing a fashion magazine.

A (12:44)

I need to find that it's good. I actually need to go and find that documentary because I am. Yeah, I'm fascinated by this.

C (12:50)

I don't remember her being super in a documentary, but I remember it was like playing because it was like her kids were in it and stuff like that. And it was, I mean, the same. I. We literally haven't used conversation on threads this week. I had to get off the rest. I'm tired of talking about this about like how the working mom and like are you a good mom? If you're like. It was kind of like playing at that too because obviously Anna Wintour is very. She don't give a damn about them kids. She very. She got a lot going on. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? I. I can't. I think the daughter was kind of like, yeah, she be in the wig, you know what I'm saying? Like, so it's just interesting to, to see. It was a good look at her, I felt.

A (13:30)

Yeah, I'm excited to get into that. But yeah. Meryl Streep said that she was most inspired by Clint Eastwood for her role as Miranda Priestly. Because Clint Eastwood speaks with like a really quiet powerfulness, whereas you would kind of expect. I don't know how actually Anna Wintour is. I don't know how she talks to her employees. I don't know how she is on a day to day basis basis. But you would expect somebody of her level, of her magnitude, of her girl bossness to say, to put it a certain way, to be kind of barking, to be kind of like demanding and loud with the demands. But Meryl Streep Was like, you know, very quiet, dominant, even more menacing.

C (14:13)

I've only been in one meeting with Anna, and it was because when I was interim managing editor for Teen Vogue, the editor in chief was pregnant, and she had to, like. She was, like, out for whatever reason, and she was like, yeah, we have a meeting. It was like a. It was all of the editor in chiefs across Kan day, because Anna at that time was no longer over Vogue. She was, like, over all of content for Conde. And so they had, like, regular meetings with her. And so she was like, girl, I put you on a meeting for you to, like, go to that meeting instead or whatever. And she was just sitting there. I. I was on Zoom because obviously I didn't live in New York, but she was just sitting there. She was really quiet. She kind of just like. She was. It was very. I don't know what she's like on a regular basis, but it was a really quiet, like, leadership. It was very. I'll say something if I need to say something. Otherwise, like, y' all gonna run this meeting. Y' all gonna kind of tell me what y' all got going on, and we gonna get. Get on.

A (15:09)

I wonder if that was so. I wonder if Meryl was drawing inspiration from both and what she knew of Anna Wintour.

C (15:16)

And I also imagine, like, I don't know, but this was. This was in 2022, 2023. Like, what was she like in 2016? You know what I mean? She's been a leader for so long that I have to imagine she has not been one way this whole time. Like, I'm very curious what her leadership has looked like in different parts of Vogue's history. Yeah, right.

A (15:39)

And in 2006, what was acceptable is not acceptable. Very different times in 2022, 2023, very different times. Maybe she was barking at some point. Maybe this movie actually shifted the way that she behaved. You know what I mean?

C (15:52)

And also, I was in one meeting, so I wasn't on Vogue's actual team. I didn't have, like, there were people on Teen Vogue's team that met with her regularly. So I can't say because I was only there one meeting, but she could have still been barking. I don't know.

A (16:06)

Hello? At the end of the day, I believe that anything. I believe you told me anything about animals. Like, yeah, 100. I'll be like, yeah, yeah, that sounds right. Meryl Streep apparently was always gonna play this role like it was intended. There's no more Meryl Streep. There's nobody else we'll get to it. But I did draw out a. A blackified cast.

C (16:27)

Oh.

A (16:28)

Who I would cast for this movie in general. Blackified. We'll get there. But, yeah. I can't imagine anybody else in this role. Meryl Streep did it so well. And I hon. Because of the roles that she's played, the other roles that she's played. I didn't know that she had this in her until it came out. Like, the way that she was delivering these lines takes me out. That one scene where she says, why is no one ready?

C (16:56)

Why is no one ready? I think that's what I liked about. I cannot remember what that paper I wrote in college was, but I think what I liked about the film so much was that it was supposed to be this, like, chick flick, almost like this girl movie about this frilly fashion magazine. And, like, how much, like, heart can it have? But to me, it was so. It had depth to it. Like, the characters were fully realized characters. They were like, you know what I mean? Even though. I mean, even down to the monologue where she's like, yes, the fashion magazine. But, like, this is why this matters. Like, everything had more depth to. To it then. I feel like sometimes they give, like, girl movies or movies aimed at women, and I think that's why the movie holds up so well, because they could have taken the topic and just, like, made a bunch of jokes and made a cutesy film, but they instead made something that actually had, like, heart.

A (17:50)

You know, a movie does do that. What you just said before, Legally Blonde. Because I watched them both back to not. Not on the same plane ride, but, like, some plane rides apart. Speaking of same year, I'm telling you, when. If Legally Blonde doesn't hold up. Watching it for the first time in 2025 did not hold up at all. I had never seen it again, so it's my first whatever. And I'm like, it has the exact issues that you just mentioned. I was like, oh. And I watched Devil Worse product first, which is not fair.

C (18:17)

No.

A (18:18)

You know, like, I had really high expectations, and it did not meet Devil words.

C (18:23)

Like, it's this movie that I think a lot of people could brush off is like, oh, that's like a women movie. It's not for. You know what I mean? And it. To me, it has actual stuff, substance. It has actual heart. It is very, very well written, well acted. You know what I mean? Like, it. It's consistently good. And that's what I like about it. Yeah.

A (18:41)

Now, there was apparently several other front Runners to play Andrea Sax. Andy. Which is the character that Anne Hathaway ends up playing. Do you want to know who?

C (18:52)

No. Because it shouldn't have always been Anne Hathaway. But go on.

A (18:55)

I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you who, and you give me, like, a rating out of 10 about how. How Andy Sax. You think this person would have been. Okay. Claire Danes.

C (19:07)

No, I gotta write it. Four.

A (19:11)

Four. Okay. Juliet Lewis. I honestly.

C (19:14)

I don't know who that is.

A (19:15)

I don't know who Juliet Lewis is. I'm not gonna hold you. Let me Google it.

C (19:19)

What she was saying, you might tell me, and I still don't know.

A (19:22)

Juliette Lewis is an American actress and musician known for her offbeat characters in dark films. The stepmother of an alien. National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation. Yeah, she not. She sounds. She sounds a little niche. She seems a little niche. Oh, you know what? This lady looks familiar, but only it's because she looks like the woman in the substance. What's that lady's name again?

C (19:43)

So I don't even know if I know what the substance is.

A (19:47)

You know, the movie, the subs.

C (19:48)

Do I know what that is?

A (19:49)

Yes. Demi Moore. She low key. Looks like Demi Moore.

C (19:52)

Oh, she does. Because I was looking at her and I'm like, there is. Oh, I know her. She's in. Is she in something? I know.

A (20:01)

Let's see.

C (20:01)

What have I seen her?

A (20:03)

Juliette Lewis or Demi Moore Girl.

C (20:05)

I know Demi Moore.

A (20:06)

Oh, okay.

C (20:08)

Because I was looking at her like, where do I know her from? Oh, she's in Yellow Jackets. I'm like, I know her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When I saw that, her face has changed a bit. I don't mean that in a shady way.

A (20:17)

No. And so has Demi Moore.

C (20:19)

When I see this, when I saw some photos, I said, I don't know who that is. But then they posted and I said, that's the lady from Yellow Jacket.

A (20:25)

Right, Right.

C (20:26)

No. So I'm going to. Now that I know her.

A (20:29)

Yes.

C (20:30)

Four.

A (20:31)

Okay. Kate Hudson.

C (20:35)

Six.

A (20:36)

Okay. Kirsten Dunst.

C (20:42)

Five.

A (20:44)

Yeah, she doesn't. I don't. She doesn't work. Natalie Portman.

C (20:49)

5.

A (20:50)

Natalie Portman's too evil. I feel like she's like, Anne Hathaway's evil. Tethered. That's how I think of.

C (20:58)

I don't dislike Natalie. I like.

A (20:59)

I don't like.

C (21:00)

I don't dislike her.

A (21:01)

She just. She would play a villain, not the main protagonist. That's, like, supposed to be like a girl next door. I'm like, that's Not Natalie apartment Scarlett Johansson.

C (21:13)

None of these people give anti sesame six.

A (21:17)

And then I threw one in personally that I thought might be an okay choice. Hillary Duff.

C (21:31)

7.5. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. Hillary Duff has the girl next door fish out of water part down. But the thing that makes Anne Hathaway so good for this film is is again, this would have been a typical, like, frilly girl movie if it was just fish out of water girl next door. But it has bite to it. It has heart to it in that it's like she's really conflicted. She's dealing with a lot of like, actual turmoil.

A (21:57)

Yeah.

C (21:58)

And her character isn't just this, like, clueless girl who has to go in here and like, doesn't know fashion. Oh, my God, help me. Like, she gen. You know what I mean? She has more depth to it than that. It's more nuanced to me.

A (22:10)

Yeah, it is.

C (22:10)

Than just a fish out of water story. And I don't know that Hillary can do that part.

A (22:14)

I agree. I do think the acting chops wouldn't quite live up. But if we're thinking about a character archetype Hillary could fit, I think it

C (22:22)

would start to give it a different movie. I think it start would start to give slapstick a little bit if Hillary

A (22:27)

was in that role. Disney acting that is so specific and. And does lend to.

C (22:32)

And now I love a little slapstick. I be honest, slapstick is like one of my favorite, like, older, like film genres. I love slapstick. That ain't what this supposed to give.

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A (26:10)

Before you forget, speaking of Anne Hathaway, Anne Hathaway was asked to gain 10 pounds for this.

C (26:18)

Did she?

A (26:19)

In order to reinforce that fish out of water, out of place in the fashion world.

C (26:23)

I would have noticed if she did.

A (26:24)

So she was asked to gain the ten pounds. She did. It took her a month to gain it, apparently. And then seemed quick as she was being fitted for the clothes. They asked her to lose that 10 pounds because she needed to be able to fit into the couture that she was gonna have to wear for the role, and she couldn't fit it anymore. So she then had to go back and lose that 10 pounds. And allegedly that took her two months to lose that 10 pounds.

C (26:47)

I don't have nothing nice to say to this. This is irritating to me.

A (26:49)

You know what I mean?

C (26:50)

I also feel like she don't. You know what I mean? Like, the ten pounds was not going to make us be like her at Vogue. Like, she was never going to give don't belong at Vogue.

A (27:03)

I wasn't gonna notice it. I wasn't gonna notice it. And they keep making these comments about her being a size 6. A size 6. I'm like, first of all, she's not a size 6. She's a size 4.

C (27:10)

Side. And Hathaway as a size 6.

A (27:13)

Right. I said, no, she's not a size 6. And Hathaway is not a size 6. You guys made that up. She's a size 4. Okay.

C (27:19)

I feel that.

A (27:20)

Not a size 2. I'll give you that. She's. I would. I would. I would have placed her squarely as a size four in this film where I'm assuming she had to be bigger than she normally. Where she normally sits. I don't know. As someone who recently was a size six, she's a size eight now. Recently was a size six. I. And that being considered big in this film.

C (27:41)

I like when people talk about women's sizes because it starts to piss me off.

A (27:44)

I know.

C (27:45)

Aside, I really do feel like. Like, I don't understand we're returning to that point now. Oh, we are, for sure.

A (27:50)

In 2006, you know, like, size six being big was like, of course you think that's big. Heroin chic is in. Of course, with the advent of Ozempic in 2026. We have certainly returned to a time when a size 6, especially in white

C (28:04)

woman world, I don't get it.

A (28:07)

Is like, oh, my God, you big elephant. I saw somewhere that Alabama Barker, Travis Barker's daughter, the one that cosplays a black woman, does them baby hairs, raps.

C (28:21)

I know who it is. Body size. But I know who she is.

A (28:25)

I saw a tick tock dissertation saying that the reason Alabama Barker does not have white friends and can and insists on having black friends is because white women think she's huge. By white women's standards, she's too big. And so she goes for folks who make her feel more comfortable. Black women considered huge there.

C (28:49)

Get off.

A (28:50)

It made sense to me. I said. I said, yeah, that might. That, that might be it. Because the white girlies right now is definitely having an identity crisis with the advent of Ozempic. I don't know what's going on there. I do know what's going on there, but that's what's going on there. Yeah.

C (29:03)

Eating disorders. Go on.

A (29:04)

Eating disorders. Absolutely. Eating disorders. What's going on there? Also, there is tick tock discourse about Devil Wears Prada saying that her boyfriend Nate was the real villain.

C (29:18)

Oh, for sure. And I felt that way, and I've always felt that way.

A (29:21)

I disagree.

C (29:22)

I don't care.

A (29:23)

I disagree. Why do you think it?

C (29:26)

He was a hater. He was a hater and he didn't know how to. God forbid, like, you got your little motion and everybody's supposed to maneuver and let you be you. I didn't have nothing going on. You was cool with it. Now I got something going on. I'm a little busy, and now all of a sudden it's a problem. Now, granted, was she a little forgetful in ways that she should not have been? Forgetful? A thousand percent unacceptable. You need to fix that. I also feel that he didn't give no grace, and I didn't like that.

A (29:56)

Okay, interesting. Yeah.

C (30:00)

We need to be on the lookout more for when men are haters of their girlfriends.

A (30:04)

That's fair. I. I do agree with that. And I do think.

C (30:06)

And I think it's more common than we like to.

A (30:08)

I do think we see it more often than. Than the involved see it. Like, I've seen a lot of girls. I'm like, yeah, your man. Your man. Like, he's jealous.

C (30:17)

He doesn't even have you. He wants to be you.

A (30:19)

He's jealous of you. He wants to be you, mama. Like, come on, wake up. This wasn't one of those cases to me. I watched Andy turn into a neglectful, bad partner when she didn't show up to that man. Birthday didn't. I was like, yeah, we're off the deep end, babe.

C (30:39)

And he.

A (30:41)

She. She shows up. Not to the man's birthday. Shows up to the apartment after the man's birthday has ended with this sorry little cupcake with a candle in it talking about, I'm so sorry. I tried to leave, but stuff just kept coming up at the work event. Unacceptable to me personally. He gives her grace. And that. He says, it's fine. I'm going to go to bed. She's like, we can't talk about this. It's fine. I'm going to go to bed. And then she keeps going down that path. I don't know. When it comes to my birthday, that's disgusting. He gave more grace than I would have given. And then you kept going like that

C (31:15)

after you already missed. I mean, I care about my birthday,

A (31:18)

but you not missing my birthday party. Are you crazy?

C (31:26)

I would be. I think probably I would be more hurt. Like, I'm thinking about it in terms of, like, me and Ryan if I. I think he would be, like, so messed up. You didn't text me that you couldn't make it. Like, you just didn't come. That would be the part that I would be in trouble for. But, like, if I could. If I'm like, oh, my God, I'm working so late. I don't think I'm gonna be able to make a d. Or dinner. Actually, I don't think there would be a dinner. If I could make it to dinner, I think he would just stay home because he don't want to do that. No way. Like, it would have been my idea to go to dinner, so I think I would have got out of that very easily.

A (31:56)

But what if you know that this is important to him? What if you have the type of partner where you're like, oh, it's his birthday. Like, I know that this is, like, kind of important to him.

C (32:04)

And that's what I'm saying. I think it depends on if you're a birthday person or not. Now, I think there were other ways outside of the birthday in which she was already not being a good partner. So even if he was like, hey, I'm not that big of a birthday person, like, it's not that big a deal. It's fine. She was already starting to. Here's the thing.

A (32:22)

Here's the thing.

C (32:23)

Here's the thing, here's the thing. I think he was a hater. And I'm not gonna let that go. However, I also think, is it possible that two people just this went on different paths. I think that she was evolving into a person that did not make sense for him and that relationship no longer made sense for her.

A (32:40)

1,000.

C (32:41)

That is 1,000%. Nobody's wrong. She didn't handle it well. She was wrong there. She was wrong in how she handled

A (32:47)

it, but not in her value shifting.

C (32:49)

But I wrong in how the value shift in the fact that, like, the way she was moving through life was changing. They were always going to kind of get there, but they could have gotten there a little more graceful, peacefully.

A (33:00)

100. That's. That's my only take on it. So when the Internet tries to paint this man like the villain, I'll be like, I think y' all are tripping, but I think y' all tripping a little bit. And again, I hate. I hate to do this.

C (33:13)

Go on.

A (33:13)

I hate to do this. I hate to do the. If the roles were reversed thing. But if the roles were reversed.

C (33:18)

Here's the thing. I don't think so. I only. The only reason I like for the

A (33:22)

Internet, I feel like they would be like.

C (33:24)

I also feel like she wasn't being a good friend. And I know that I'm wrong. I know that I'm wrong for prioritizing that over her actual relationship. But that the part that bothered me the more than the 1000%.

A (33:34)

I think it's one in the same part.

C (33:35)

Like, I thought that she was being shitty to her friends.

A (33:38)

She was.

C (33:39)

That was the part where I was like, fix it. You know, 1000. I feel that my unpopular opinion is, like, in relationships, especially if somebody is like, she's working this job that she's, like, kind of getting acclimated in. She's finally hitting her stride. Like, I think that there is a level of growth grace that we give our partners when we know that they're, like, a little in over their head, but they're doing something they're passionate about and they're trying to figure it out. Like, I'm gonna give you a few extra passes because I'm not a hater. I like to see you happy and succeeding. I would like to help you to do that. Right. Within reason. I think she was also being a bad friend. And friends are like that. Like it. That, to me, was the part where I was like, oh, I don't like how you're treating your friends. I don't like that.

A (34:24)

I don't like the way you're treating people was my read on Andy. And then she kept leaning on this white woman victim thing where she goes, I did not have a choice. She said that repeatedly. When the man is upset, obviously he doesn't say it, but when he's upset that she misses his birthday, she preemptively is like, I didn't have a choice. I didn't have a choice. You always have choices. Maybe you didn't want to make that choice, but you always have choices. When she fucks over Emily and takes her spot to Paris, she goes, you know, I didn't have a choice. You know I didn't have a choice. And Emily says, that's a cop out. That's exactly right. I knew you had a choice.

C (34:59)

Here's the thing. That's one of my favorite. You eat carbs, for Christ's sakes. I say that to this day, anytime.

A (35:04)

That was Emily's line. Yeah.

C (35:05)

If you get to go to Paris and I don't get to go to Paris, I'm gonna say, you eat carbs, for Christ sake. Like, this is what I say to everybody who gets to do something that I didn't get to do when I'm being a hater.

A (35:14)

Right.

C (35:14)

Emily was right. And also, I don't know, I just feel like maybe it's because I've worked in media and specifically in magazines, and I know how it grinds people down. Is it a white woman victimhood thing? Yes. I'm not denying that. I also 100 see how people get wrapped up in these media jobs and these magazine jobs. And they think that it is the most important thing that they will ever do in their whole lives? And who am I if somebody doesn't know that I'm Anna Winter towards assistant. And if I don't have the title of working at this publication and I do not have a choice because I cannot lose this because this is my entire identity.

A (35:56)

That's what I felt like would have been an acceptable thought process for Emily, but not for Andy, who had been there for a month. You know what I mean? Or like, however long the period of time, it. It wasn't her identity in the way that it was Emily's. Maybe it had become. Maybe she had shifted into that person. But it felt like. And again, we didn't get this much back here, this much back on Emily.

C (36:15)

No.

A (36:15)

But Emily was born, bred, live, died. Fashion for a majority of her life is what it gave. So I feel like I can understand her maybe making bad decisions that reflect poorly on her Character because she genuinely feels like, who am I without this? Andy, you went to Northwestern with a journalist degree. Just a month ago you wanted to be a hard hitting journalist. Now suddenly you didn't have a choice. It feels like a cat.

C (36:39)

That's the party that I don't, I don't. The north. The I, I hate when we give this. Like, I was supposed to be an investigative reporter and now I like that never. That shift never really curls all the way over for me personally, but I almost like that they made the character who had been doing it less time make that argument. Because to me, that shows how all consuming this world is and how like it you get in it. And you were like, you did not want it, you didn't want to be in it. You didn't even really know about it. And now that you're in it, you cannot imagine existing in a world and where this is not your, like nucleus. And I think that point hits harder because, girl, you just got here. Why are you acting like you gonna die if you get. You know what I'm trying to say? Like, I think for Emily it would have made sense because she's eat, sleep, breathe this for so long. But to me, the point hits harder for me as a viewer having Andy be that desperate over something that she just learned about.

A (37:37)

And as a viewer, because I think they were probably intending to do both things, intending to make that point drive harder. Like, look how all consuming this industry can get you. And also look at Andy's character arc.

C (37:52)

I also think there's a certain. This is my unpopular opinion. It's not that unpopular. I think there's a specific person who is good for those types of jobs. There is a specific person. Like, there are many people who would get in that role and be like, I don't give a damn and not your steak is how I got it and I'm not gonna go get it again. And they won't last long. But like, yeah, and that's the whole point of the like, why does she have so much turn and turnover in her assistance? Because like, they're like, it's a specific person who will be willing to like be so enraptured and all consumed. A Virgo by

A (38:29)

a Capricorn.

C (38:31)

So I, I do think that that's a part of the point. I don't know about no Capricorn.

A (38:35)

I can guarantee you she will.

C (38:36)

Because to me, at the end of the day, I want it right real bad. I want it that bad.

A (38:40)

No, never that bad. One thing about it, you're not going to talk to me crazy. If I told you my name was Andy and you keep calling me a different name than what I told you my name is. You don't respect my personhood and we're going to have a conversation about that. And now I'm fired. And now I'm fired.

C (38:54)

I don't want it that bad.

A (38:55)

And I don't want it that bad. You know what I mean?

C (38:57)

I'll leave unemployment line before I let you talk to me crazy.

A (39:01)

I'm there now. I've been there before. No biggie to me babe beater again.

C (39:06)

If you keep playing in my face like you're not there is. You take it to hell, I'm gonna take it further. We're gonna be down in hell together. I personally, there is a lot, like, there is a lot that I want to achieve by ambition. It does no bounds. You are not going to run. It knows it does no bounds. Like, there are certain things where, oh, girl, I don't want it that bad.

A (39:29)

You know what I mean? And it feels like. It feels like Andy gets caught up in just seeing how far she can get.

C (39:37)

But isn't that just being 20 something?

A (39:40)

Maybe. But honestly, no, I actually don't think it is. Like, I just did not.

C (39:44)

I.

A (39:44)

We've all been 27.

C (39:45)

That's fair.

A (39:45)

This was not who I was.

C (39:46)

I was a lot more like that. I still had boundaries, boundary, but I was way more like that in my early 20s than I was in my late 20s and certainly in my 30s. A thousand percent, for sure.

A (40:01)

And as we see at the end of the movie when Andy and Miranda Priestley are in that car together and Andy realizes that she's become just like Miranda. And Miranda says, you know, like, what do you mean, just like me?

C (40:18)

Oh, yeah, every.

A (40:19)

Don't be silly. Everybody wants this. And what do you mean you're just like me? You over Emily for this Paris position. Like, look around you. You have huge choices and transgressions against other people in order to further. In order to further your own career. You have done that. And she. You can tell she has a moment of reckoning with herself where she's like, oh, my God, I really have lost my values. Like, I don't know who I am in this moment. I think I have taken it too far. And I'm like, see, I'm confused about the Internet concluding still when we know that that is the takeaway that she gets from the movie. I'm confused about the Internet still landing on Nate being the villain

C (40:59)

Because I think, I think that's true. But I also still think that's just. Again, I think she was wrong in the way she handled it. I don't think she was wrong in that, like, she changed to that being her value. Like, I, I, There are some people who are just that type of ambitious and they don't really like, they don't like Miranda. They touch on a little bit like her husband and like her relationship and her, like her work, her. The other assets of her parts of her life have to exist around her job. And she's not gonna apologize for that. That's how she is. That is her value.

A (41:38)

Right.

C (41:38)

If Andy decides that that is how she also wants to live her life, that is not a wrong thing to do. That's fine. You just gotta find somebody who is okay with existing around your world in that way. She's wrong because she, in the messiness of figuring out that this is the type of person she wants to be, she didn't do a great job of like, communicating. And I, I don't know, maybe I'm giving her more grace because she was like, fresh out of college and she was like, young. And I think it's really easy to in hindsight be like, girl, you should have told me this way. Just like she was figuring it out. I don't really think she fully realized what was like. She didn't, she didn't realize in the car. She realized like, oh, you know what I mean? Like, I think, yes, you know, you're being a bad girlfriend, cuz you didn't communicate. That is what she's responsible for. But I think like, the everybody can't be wrong. Why didn't you figure out that your values were wrong? Girl, I was trying to figure it out. I didn't know yet. It just hit me, you know, like some of that she was figuring it out as she went.

A (42:36)

Yeah, for sure, for sure. If we were to cast the Devil Wears Prada blackly, I have done it. J. I didn't even give you a heads up on this, so I don't even expect you to. You can just let me know what you think about.

C (42:47)

I love sharing my thoughts and opinions.

A (42:49)

Thank you.

C (42:49)

On what you're doing. Wow. What you're doing right. What you're doing wrong.

A (42:53)

Well, you wouldn't share any opinions about what I'm doing wrong. Cause I don't do anything wrong. We'll get back to the show, but for now it's Max Fun Drive and we're trying to keep the mics on see what I do.

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Okay.

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join if I were to cast Miranda Priestly Blackley, I have two. I have two people and it would create a different film for each person. Angela Bassett, one option. Gabrielle Union, the second option.

C (45:11)

I don't hate it, actually.

A (45:13)

Sure, I can see that. Right.

C (45:15)

I would probably lean Angela Bassett for the movie as it exists today. I think Gabrielle Union would be really good in that role. But it's a different film. It is.

A (45:28)

It becomes funnier.

C (45:30)

It's like it becomes funnier But I also think funny Gabrielle Yun and the ways that she plays like women or women that are, like, unliked is way more, like, flipping about it. Like, I don't really give a damn that you don't. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's way more in your face about it. I think Angela Bassett's would have that similar subtleness that Miranda pleasely does where it's like, I'm kind of like, back here, and it really didn't even occur to me that you might not like me because why would I think about

A (45:58)

what you think about you?

C (45:59)

Yeah. Why would I think about how you feel?

A (46:00)

Yeah, I don't care.

C (46:01)

I think Angela Bassett has that.

A (46:03)

Okay. For Andrea sex. Andy, I have a Yara Shahidi. Yeah, I think so. Regular girl, you know, can act neither here nor there. Will act great.

C (46:24)

I can't stand you sometimes. I think Yara would do a good job in that role.

A (46:28)

Yeah. For Emily Charleston's character. I have two alts here as well, so we're playing somebody a little bitchy, but. But redeemable.

C (46:37)

Wait, let me get my thought about Yara.

A (46:38)

Okay.

C (46:39)

I think the thing that would actually make Yara really good in this is the same thing. Like, I don't know if you've ever watched Grownish, but it's like, Yara is good at playing characters similar to Andy, where it's like, you're dead ass wrong. But it's like the messiness of being young and fake figuring it out. And, like, I'm giving you a little grace, but also I'm giving you grace on that, sister, because, you know, you was dead ass wrong there. Like, I think Yara does the way she plays her in character, she does a good job of, like, mastering that, like, exactly. Innocence, but also a little, like, naive,

A (47:10)

but also not malicious.

C (47:12)

Not malicious, but, like, just naive. Not willing to take accountability for the fact that, like, being malicious doesn't mean that, like, not being malicious. You're not wrong. Yeah, exactly.

A (47:21)

Yeah, exactly.

C (47:22)

Yeah, for sure.

A (47:22)

Exactly. Emily, we have somebody that is bitchy, almost a villain, but not really fully villain.

C (47:28)

I love Emily.

A (47:30)

Yeah. I really love Emily's character. She's so fun. She. Oh, my God. Emily Blunt played her.

C (47:35)

So I love Emily.

A (47:37)

For Emily Charleston, I have Marseille Martin or Tessa Thompson. Those are my two options. Have you seen Marseille Martin's Tick Tock video where she's, like, singing to that song where it's like, I don't want to be like you. Why would I be like you? And she, like, makes this face like this.

C (48:01)

I know. I do like that. I like that. I've seen it. It's funny.

A (48:04)

Yeah. If Marseille ate that little trend.

C (48:07)

No, no.

A (48:08)

And that's when I said, oh, you can. You could play a mean girl for real. You startled me. I was scared watching that video.

C (48:14)

I think Marseille could be getting in that. I like Tessa. I don't know about Tessa.

A (48:19)

For Emily, Tessa would be almost too mean. I feel like. Like she might. She. I don't know if I could find the redeeming qualities.

C (48:29)

I don't know. I guess I'm thinking about. I don't know, the roles. I know of Tesla. She not mean, but there's something about her that's not. They don't give this to me.

A (48:38)

Okay. She doesn't ever play mean, but there's something about her that I could say. See, playing me, I could.

C (48:44)

I could. What's that? What's that show?

A (48:46)

Oh, you know what? She is in Dear White People.

C (48:49)

That's. I forgot about.

A (48:50)

She isn't Dear White People. And she does. She's not nice. And Dear White People, she's, you know, she's a little bitey.

C (48:57)

I can't remember a ton about Dear White People.

A (48:59)

And I can't remember if she was in the movie or she was in the show.

C (49:02)

She was in the show, I think. Was she in both?

A (49:04)

No, because they changed the lead actress.

C (49:06)

She was in the show.

A (49:07)

Okay, she was in the show. Then

C (49:10)

I. I'm thinking about that Netflix. What was that, Nick? You know that show she was just in on Netflix. And I'm like, what the hell?

A (49:16)

Oh, I can't remember the name of it, but yes, that show. She was just. I didn't watch it. How was it?

C (49:21)

Everybody was playing. Okay, so apparently she was in the movie because.

A (49:25)

Okay, okay, so she only played it once then.

C (49:27)

Yeah, yeah, because.

A (49:28)

Yeah, yeah.

C (49:29)

And that doesn't. For me because why didn't I know that?

A (49:33)

You know what I mean? Okay, so that's what I have.

C (49:37)

Interesting. I like. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out the name. Wait, wait. I gotta figure out the name of that Tessa show.

A (49:43)

Yeah.

C (49:43)

Because that show was. It was. It wasn't his and Hers.

A (49:48)

His and hers. It was. Okay, somebody got hit by a car. Like stuff was happening.

C (49:53)

Yeah. It was a thriller, a suspense. It was deeply unserious to me. I won't say Tyler Perry. Ish. But I will say.

A (50:04)

I mean.

C (50:07)

So anyway. Okay. I won't say nothing. Actually, I decided I don't want to say nothing.

A (50:11)

And there's that and then for Nigel, the, you know, man that works.

C (50:19)

The man is crazy, but okay. Right.

A (50:21)

The man that is not her man. I have.

C (50:25)

How do you.

A (50:25)

I don't know how to say this man's name. Reggae John Page.

C (50:29)

Is it rage?

A (50:30)

I think it's reggae. I think when I looked it up.

C (50:33)

You mean.

A (50:34)

Yes. The man from Bridgerton. The man from Yumi in Tuscany. That. That light skinned man.

C (50:43)

Okay. Stanley Tucci. Kate, you can't touch Stanley Tucci.

A (50:47)

So I really had a really hard time, you know what I mean? Like with everybody else, I kind of had people pop into mine. I. I had to search for people. I'm like, I don't know.

C (50:53)

I was having a conversation with my friend earlier about this because again, we're having all these workplace conversations about like Kiki Palmer. And this Immigra thing about working from home is really taking the Internet by storm. And I really don't want to get into it. I have many thoughts about it. But I was saying there are plenty of people who show up to work every day, especially black people, and they get overlooked in the office. Don't nobody give a damn about how you work. And Stanley Tucci, not black. But Stanley Tucci's character in this show is the prime definition of I'm on time, I'm early, I do everything and above what you asked me for. And still when it gets time for me to be rewarded, you looked right over my head. Right. If they don't see it for you, they don't see it for you. If. If they want somebody else, they want somebody else sometimes. Going above and beyond. Thanks. And I feel like that he did a really good job with displaying that in this movie of like sometimes you went over and above and above and beyond for no reason because.

A (51:52)

And she still want the skinny white woman. So there's that. And then for Nate to round it out, for Nate to play the man of Amanda. Damn. Amanda does not exist. Who is Amanda to play the man of Andy?

C (52:07)

Yeah.

A (52:08)

I have Trevor Jackson. You know who that is?

C (52:13)

I know who Trevor Jackson.

A (52:14)

He got that little rat.

C (52:15)

I don't have anything nice to say, so I'd rather just not.

A (52:18)

Not. You hate Trev. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

C (52:23)

It's the rat tail. It's the singing. So I can't take it. He sings like Trey songs. But, like in a like, cosplay of Trey. Like if we were doing like, impersonations of. I can't take no offense. I'm sure he's a lovely man. I'm so sorry. I get second hand embarrassment. I can't watch him. I can't watch every time you come on there and he like straining. I can't quit.

A (52:53)

Stop. Wait, what was that song in your Whatever.

C (52:59)

And it's like nothing about this song required for you to grin and bear it like that. Like you ain't hit a note. That required that. The lyrics don't require that I scroll because I don't like. I don't want to say I don't like talking about people because sometimes I am a little messy. But like, I don't like being mean to people for no reason. So sometimes when I see his stuff, I already know I'm not gonna have a nice thought. So I just scroll. I don't like to look at it.

A (53:24)

Well, if it makes you feel any better, Trevor, I'm attracted to you personally.

C (53:27)

Are you?

A (53:28)

I am. So in what way? Let's move on. The Devil Worsh product 2 is coming out this Friday when you're listening to this and I would like to make some predictions. Okay, these predictions are literally out of nowhere. I have no basis for these predictions. They are things that I just want to be able to circle back to and say, see you guys, I'm psychic. If it does happen, I predict that content creation slash podcasting is going to be at the forefront of the Devil Wears Prada too. I predict that Chapel Roan is going to make an appearance in the Devil Wears Prada too.

C (54:08)

And you don't have no kind of reason for any of these, do you?

A (54:12)

I said that.

C (54:12)

Okay, I'm sorry. It just hit me as you start talking. Go on.

A (54:15)

Yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't. I believe the return of early 2000s fashion will be talked about often in the movie because we are 20 years removed. And lately I've been seeing on Tick Tock the girls are trying to bring back gauchos. And I will be be damned if I ever put a gaucho or anything similar to it on my body.

C (54:34)

You weren't there in the heyday.

A (54:35)

I was there. They were hideous men and they are hideous.

C (54:39)

You were too young to understand. You could never get it.

A (54:42)

You like a gaucho.

C (54:43)

I did back then. As a matter of fact, here's the thing. I was trying to try out for the Model club and I wore some gauchos. I didn't get in. And so maybe that gauchos.

A (54:53)

It was them, gal.

C (54:54)

The correlation is more clear to me now.

A (54:56)

Gios make me literally cringe. They are so ugly.

C (54:58)

Why would I have a problem with a gaucho. I love the gaucho. I love the peplum.

A (55:03)

Do you. I hate. I. I love the peplum. I had several peplums.

C (55:07)

I work so much and I can't. I don't ever want to see a peplum again.

A (55:10)

I will never put peplum again on my body. That is so insane to me. Peplum coming back is ridiculous. Gauchos coming back is ridiculous. More of these things cool at the time look like.

C (55:18)

Cuz I think I like gaucho.

A (55:19)

You. I think you know what a gaucho looks like. Them shits is back.

C (55:22)

Let's look them. What's wrong with a gaucho sequoia? That actually is. I like it. You don't think these are cute

A (55:33)

now?

C (55:34)

Okay, we need to be specific about which gauchos are coming back, because some of the, like, fabricy gauchos that are.

A (55:38)

I hate every. Yeah, the fabricy ones. Which one are you talking about? I like Capri.

C (55:43)

Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm looking up gauchos and they giving me Jean capris.

A (55:47)

Okay.

C (55:47)

No Jean styling of them. I'm like, I can take the.

A (55:50)

I'm talking about those loose, really thin fabrics. A lot of fabric. When you turn, it looks like a dress flaring out. Those gauchos. I hate those.

C (56:02)

Don't put them on.

A (56:03)

Don't put those. A matter of fact, I probably. I have some jeans that you might consider gauchos.

C (56:07)

Okay, so then never mind. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. We're good. Because I'm looking at the, like, Urban Outfitters has a pair of. Of plaid gauchos. Why would you put them on? I don't even understand what I'm looking out. Yeah, they're blue and white. They're plaid.

A (56:22)

I literally feel disgusted. Like, I actually feel disgusted. I hate Galtras. Anyway, also, the shoe. I know that the Internet has talked about this through and through. The shoe that they put Meryl Streep in for the teaser of Devil Wears Pro 2. That ugly short red pump with those studs on it that Steve Madden asked you. Do you think? And mind you, I love Steve Madden. That is actually no shade at all to see Madden. Do you think Miranda Priestly would be in.

C (56:49)

So it's not in character.

A (56:50)

It's not in character.

C (56:52)

In character.

A (56:52)

I get that y' all trying to cater to the fact that Meryl Streep is, you know, an actual elder. She can't have on a stiletto. You know, the slimmest slender.

C (57:01)

But then don't do no close up shot of her in her feet.

A (57:04)

Close up shots of her foot then. Cuz I don't want to see those ugly, hideous 2006 emo studded belt stones.

C (57:14)

It does. Like she shot the matching belt on. It does. It looks like. That's exactly what it looks like.

A (57:20)

It was so egregious and so ugly and it really made me question how the movie was going to go over.

C (57:25)

I do remember seeing that in the chat. I blocked it out of my brain because it upset me so bad. But now that I'm looking at it, I'm like Miranda Priestley.

A (57:35)

She would never.

C (57:36)

She wouldn't do that.

A (57:37)

The same Miranda Priestley that seen the shoes that Andy had on and gave her a quick.

C (57:43)

She wouldn't do that.

A (57:44)

She said. She said Emily. She called Andy Emily. She said Emily. Andy turns around. Yes. Looks her up and down.

C (57:53)

That's all.

A (57:53)

Real slow. That's all. She never changed up mind.

C (57:57)

You ain't watched this movie in a month of Sundays. No. It's a word for wow.

A (58:01)

And there's that saying again.

C (58:04)

What they got to do with anything

A (58:06)

in a month of Sunday?

C (58:06)

What's wrong with a month of Sundays?

A (58:08)

I just. This is, this is only my second time in life hearing who said it the first time. And my first time a Southern person. And my first time I said, I don't. I don't. They only said they didn't say it with context. Now with context, I could obviously infer what it means. They. We were just talking about like black.

C (58:23)

I wouldn't give a context for it. I would just say I haven't in a month of Sunday. That's the context.

A (58:27)

That's context.

C (58:28)

Oh, okay.

A (58:29)

Exactly. No, they. They just said it. We were talking about black phrase and they said, have you heard of I'm on the Sundays? And I said I couldn't. I don't. I don't know what you mean by that.

C (58:40)

You know, they say I thought like an old person.

A (58:42)

You do. You definitely do. You have an old person dialect. That's it. That's all I got. Devil Worse Product is a fantastic movie. I would give it. If I had to rate it out of 10. I would probably give it like a 8.9. Like definitely approaching a 9 out of 10. It is really well done. Holds up super well. I like how biting all the jokes are. If you have body image issues, this is certainly not the movie for you. There is one line Miranda says, I took note of it because it really made me laugh. But I was like, that's actually so sick. She said as she's talking to Andy, quote, I said to myself, go ahead, take a chance. Hire the smart fat girl. My mouth. Hire the smart fat girl. With a deadpan and you have really disappointed me. Andy starts welling up, tearing up. You think Miranda gives a damn? She doesn't.

C (59:35)

Because this is also in the era of girl boss where someone has to tell her. Someone has to tell her.

A (59:44)

You're getting whaleish.

C (59:45)

If no one. I'm not doing my job as a girl boss. If I don't tell you. That's that error.

A (59:52)

Yeah, that is certainly the error that we were in. So that's all that I have for this episode. If you want to talk to us about this episode or any other episode, or give us hate mail or anything else.

C (60:03)

Sorry, email.

A (60:06)

He's gonna be the person that writes it. He's gonna write. He's gonna write it anonymously.

C (60:09)

That's why I don't. I wish you would have brought it up because I would have just not said nothing.

A (60:12)

I'm gonna forward it to you. You deserve whatever he says. Black people. Lovepairmoregmail.com if you want to talk to us, you can talk to us across all social media platforms as well at BPLPPOD and yeah, you know, we're on YouTube and everywhere else. Okay, bye. Maximum fun. A worker owned network of artist owned shows supported directly by you.