Red Lobster

Summary

Podcast Summary: Black People Love Paramore

Episode: Red Lobster

Host: Sequoia Holmes
Co-host: Ryann Graham
Date: February 5, 2026

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Overview

This episode of Black People Love Paramore is a joyful, nostalgia-fueled discussion on the deeply relatable world of casual dining chains—from Red Lobster and Applebee’s to Rainforest Cafe, BJ’s, and Chili’s. Sequoia and Ryann trade favorite spots, recall the cultural cache and family traditions of these restaurants, and explore how such places have appeared in Black pop culture and broader media. The conversation is humorous, candid, and peppered with playful debates about menu items, “red flag” date behaviors, and the social texture of chain restaurants in Black life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Defining the Genre: What Even Is a Casual Dining Chain?

Timestamp: 02:36–07:26

• Sequoia introduces the episode's theme: "Today's episode is about casual dining chains." (02:36)
• The hosts muse over the mixed status of regional and nationwide chains, debating whether places like Claim Jumper, BJ’s, and Islands count alongside Applebee’s, Chili’s, and Rainforest Café.
• Local flavor: Both hosts note how favorite chains are often regional, and lament the closure of beloved places (e.g., Claim Jumper in California).

2. Personal Faves & Regional Loyalty

Timestamp: 03:35–12:26

• Sequoia’s favorites: Claim Jumper, BJ’s (“I was a BJ’s babe down... I thought that was, like, fine dining.” 05:36), Islands (“Islands actually isn't good, but the smoothies are good.” 06:20).
• Ryann’s favorites: Rainforest Cafe (“My favorite restaurant. Period. Not even just fast casual.” 08:17), Houlihan’s, 54th Street Grill (“They had a thing called gringo dip... queso, spinach, I think onion—like espinaca dip, essentially.” 11:26).
• Both reminisce about specific menu items—BJ’s pizookie, Rainforest Cafe ambiance, and more.

3. Red Lobster: A Fine Dining Rite of Passage

Timestamp: 12:29–25:38

• Both recall Red Lobster as the ultimate “special occasion” spot, especially within Black families:
  • Sequoia: “Red Lobster was fine dining. Like, that's fine dining.” (12:42)
  • Beyoncé’s famous lyric: “‘When he f***s me good, I take his ass to Red Lobster because I slay.’ Period.” (17:35)
• Ryann questions whether Beyoncé has been to Red Lobster since her Houston days, pondering celebrity relatability.

4. Family Rituals & After-Church Traditions

Timestamp: 13:46–17:10

• Regional chains again: Sequoia references Eminem Soul Food (“which is a chain, I want to say—very local. I would get the chitlins... it was very tasty.” 14:28).
• Ryann details Midwest diner spots and themed railway restaurants like Fritz, where food arrives via train.
• Reflects broader Black American traditions of communal eating after church, as depicted in films and lived by listeners.

5. Social Hierarchies: Tiers of Chain Dining

Timestamp: 21:44–24:36

• The duo informally ranks chains:
  • Nobu/Tao/PF Chang’s = “scene-y,” celeb-spotting territory
  • Benihana/Cheesecake Factory/Red Lobster = “landmark birthdays, special occasions”
  • Applebee’s/Chili’s/BJ’s = “after high school, Friday night” hangouts
• Ryann: “Cheesecake Factory was nice. Texas Roadhouse... prom destination. Buca di Beppo for my prom.” (23:50)

6. Dating Etiquette & Red Flag Orders

Timestamp: 27:40–36:32

• Lighthearted but pointed debate: what’s a “red flag” order/behavior on a first date?
  • Chicken tenders for adults: “If you're over the age of... and order chicken tenders... Are you kidding?” (28:16)
  • Too many menu modifications, well-done steak, and ketchup requests get side-eye.
  • Splitting the check on a first date? Sequoia: “No red flag. You have to go.” (34:42)
  • Ryann is less stringent, but both agree rudeness to waitstaff is non-negotiable.

7. Chains in Pop Culture: Lyrics, Media, and Social Media

Timestamp: 36:32–45:25

• Notable mentions:
  • Beyoncé (“Formation”), Jonas Brothers (“Waffle House”), Jimmy Buffett (“Cheeseburger in Paradise” and Margaritaville brand), Drake (“Child’s Play”: “Why you gotta fight with me at Cheesecake? You know I love to go there. Say I’m acting light-skinned...” 41:16).
• Social media prowess of chains: Chili’s Facebook posts (“You’re weird and we feel bad for you”) and their engagement with online culture.

8. Chain Restaurant Appreciation & Critique

Timestamp: 45:25–54:49

• Olive Garden gets respect (“People like to s*** on Olive Garden and it’s great. Bottomless soup and salad.” 50:40)
• Cheesecake Factory’s overwhelming menu is both a running joke and a real criticism—although surprising “real chef” cred is noted from TikTok research.
• TGI Fridays and Chili’s compared for wings and atmosphere; service horror stories are swapped, especially in DC and Atlanta.

9. Final Game: "Yay or Nay," Chain Restaurant Dilemmas

Timestamp: 47:55–54:49

• Singing “Happy Birthday” in restaurants—both are fans.
• Sizzling fajitas at someone else’s birthday dinner? Not a social faux pas.
• Proposal logistics: “Champagne, yay; dessert, nay.” (49:16)
• Smash/Marry/Kill: Cheddar Bay biscuits, Chili's Triple Dipper, Outback's Bloomin’ Onion—cheddar biscuits and the Triple Dipper triumph.
• Rating chains on a scale of 1–5: Olive Garden (strong five), Chili’s (4.5), Outback (low), TGI Fridays (4.5), Dave & Buster’s (1–2), and Red Robin (low, mostly for personal reasons).

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• “Red Lobster was fine dining. Like, that's fine dining.” — Sequoia (12:42)
• “My favorite restaurant. Period... is the Rainforest Cafe.” — Ryann (08:17)
• On BJ’s pizookie: “Let me say, that pazookie changed my fucking life.” — Ryann (06:00)
• “If you're over the age of... and order chicken tenders... Are you kidding?” — Sequoia (28:16)
• “You morph into Ray J in my brain when Hennessy leaves your mouth.” — Sequoia (34:03)
• “People like to s*** on Olive Garden and it’s great. Bottomless soup and salad.” — Ryann (50:40)
• On splitting the bill: “If we're at a casual dining restaurant on a first date and you ask me to split the bill... No red flag. You have to go.” — Sequoia (34:42)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Start & Theme intro: 00:00–03:15
• What counts as a chain? Regional breakdowns: 03:35–12:26
• Red Lobster nostalgia & Beyoncé lyric: 12:29–18:13 / 17:35 (Beyoncé lyric)
• Post-church family traditions: 13:46–17:10
• Tiering dining chains: 21:44–24:36
• Dating red flags: 27:40–36:32
• Chains in pop culture: 36:32–45:25
• Final games, debates, chain ratings: 47:55–54:49

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Tone & Vibe

Lively, funny, and casually insightful, the conversation flows like a great table at TGI Fridays—part nostalgia, part roast, and a lot of community. Listeners who never thought deeply about Red Lobster or the weird glory of Rainforest Café will feel delightfully scene (get it?) and seen.

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For next episode, listeners are invited to submit thoughts about Lizzie McGuire and Hilary Duff.

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Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Welcome to Black People Love Paramore, a pop culture podcast. Not about the band Paramore, but about the common as well as the uncommon interests of black people. I'm Sequoia Holmes. And I'm Ryan Graham. And before we get started with the episode, take a second comment to us on Spotify. You guys are really good about commenting to us on Spotify. I really appreciate it.

[B]

Dang.

[A]

If you have any thoughts, any vibes, comment per usual. Also rate, if you haven't done that already. Yeah, drop a five star, 100%. And you know what? I did notice from last episode that I don't appreciate.

[B]

Oh, please.

[A]

Remember when I was given the plot of High School Musical and I said, if you think I did a good job, drop five stars? Not a single five star.

[B]

Thank you all for doing the assignment.

[A]

Not a single star. Matter of fact, I agree. But there was plenty of Cheetahs and plenty of basketballs because we said, drop Cheetah Girls. If you like Cheetah Girls. You know, drop basketball. So y' all heard when we said, drop some emojis if you have feelings. But when it came to my High School Musical review, nobody dropped anything. I think that's funny.

[B]

But you know what's crazy? Cause, like, remember your. Your. Your thing was if I did a good job, right?

[A]

So, because I know that I did a good job, I wholeheartedly expected for. For you know, our audience to be like Sequoia. You know what? You really did eat that. Like, I'm gonna go ahead and drop these five stars. I didn't get a star. I didn't get two stars. I didn't get a single. There was not a. It's like y' all didn't hear me.

[B]

No, no, I see. I think it's crazy. Cause I think they actually heard you. I think you didn't hear you. So when you said if I did.

[A]

A good job, you know, and just. And let me just. And let me just assume that they didn't hear me.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Hey, guys, if you listen to the High School Musical episode and you thought that I did a good job with my recounting of what the movie was about, I pulled out themes. I. You know, you know, I did a whole thing. If you thought I did a good job, drop five stars in the comments on YouTube or on Spotify, all the things.

[B]

I get that. And also, if you didn't, thank you for being honest. Because I think this is the real problem in the world today. We live in multiple realities. Some of us live on Earth. And Others live in delusion, and there's nothing wrong with delusion.

[A]

And I'm here. Grounded on Earth Earth sign. Matter of fact, lots of Earth Earth.

[B]

Sign on lots of Earth in the.

[A]

Big three, if we're being for real. It's Virgo and Capricorn maybe.

[B]

Okay. Wow.

[A]

The earthiest of them at that. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, I don't have the. Yeah, I got a lot of air, so. Whoop.

[A]

Anyways.

[B]

But also, yes comment, because today's episode is about casual dining chains.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So off. RIP I want you to tell us what your favorite ones are. I really, really am excited.

[A]

Tell us about your favorite casual dining chains. Should we assign em. No, it doesn't make sense to assign emojis. There would be too many.

[B]

Oh, wait. I think it's kind of funny if you get us to guess. If you like. Yes, do put emojis.

[A]

Oh, my God. And I will respond to the comments and I will guess what you're talk.

[B]

Talking about, because there are a couple that are pretty straight up. I think there's like. There's at least two that I'm like.

[A]

Like, Red robin would just be a red bird.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

You know what I mean? If there is a red bird, there's.

[B]

Like, a chick and a red.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So there's obviously apple and a bee. There's obviously literally the Red Lobster. They're there.

[A]

Make us guess.

[B]

Yeah, that's kind of fun.

[A]

And I will absolutely be responding to those.

[B]

That could be fun bonus content for the future. Actually, we should react. We should respond live. So. Yeah, respond with your emojis and we'll guess them.

[A]

Yeah. On next bonus content.

[B]

That's funny. That's funny.

[A]

That's at that. I'll probably respond to a few in the comments and then, like, some other ones that I might struggle with. I'll. We'll do some bonus.

[B]

Also, like, there's some local ones. I imagine there'll be.

[A]

There's definitely local. There's definitely local ones. So speaking of local ones, I want to tell y' all my favorite fast. What. What is this called? Casual chain dining restaurants. So you know where I'm coming from when we get into this episode, you know, like, okay. Sequoia likes that. You know, local claim jumpers. Do y' all remember Claim Jumper? Do you. You've never heard of claim jumper?

[B]

I'm saying words. I've literally.

[A]

Claim jumper.

[B]

Sorry, are you saying claim or claim?

[A]

Claim. Claim.

[B]

Like, I'm claiming it.

[A]

The name of it is Claim Jumper Steakhouse. And Bar Claim. C L A I M. Jumper Steakhouse and Bar.

[B]

How can you jump a claim? I'm serious. I don't understand. What do you mean we're Claim Jumper.

[A]

Wasn't prepared for that. I think a claim jumper is like, something to do with oldtimey us like this. What is a Claim Jumper?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Do you know Claim Jumper period?

[B]

You know, it's crazy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Both are from California.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Thus the Gold Rush.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

Thus, you know, Claim Jumper.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

We didn't have that.

[A]

Okay. And you just heard the voice of Hannah, who is our audio engineer doing fantastic work. Thank you very much. Yeah. Claim Jumper is like an American. I think it's California specific. I don't know that there's claim jumpers in other parts of the US and in fact, they're closing the ones in California. There was one in Long beach that I would go to for every birthday. I love Claim Jumper so bad. I get that. And I went home recently and I said, where the is Claim Jumper? Why did they close my Claim jumper?

[B]

It's crazy. There's only 10 locations right now. As of October 2025, there's only 10. So you're right. And it's based in Houston, Texas. Crazy. But yeah. So there are only 10 left. That's why I'm like, I don't know how many.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

That's just a quick Google search.

[A]

That is really sad. I'm very sad to hear that.

[B]

I'm trying to think if there ever were more than 10. It doesn't. This isn't making it seem like there were a ton of them. I think it was a very niche thing because I've never, ever, ever heard of this.

[A]

Claim Jumper is so good. So that's jungle.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah. Was my favorite. And then BJ's down. I was a BJ's babe down. I thought that was, like, fine dining.

[B]

Of course. Oh, my God. No. I. We also didn't have BJ's in Missouri.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No. But, you know, you took me to bg. I think you were the reason I went for the first time.

[A]

You went for the. That was your first time going. Beeji. I remember the first time we had that pazuki bitch. Let me tell you something about a pizookie. Okay?

[B]

Let me say that Pazuki changed my fucking life.

[A]

Suzuki.

[B]

I'm different. I am.

[A]

I'm changed.

[B]

I don't know if I've changed for the better, but because I knew you, I have changed.

[A]

For good. For good.

[B]

I mean, it really got me. So, yeah, we didn't know. So we didn't have that. But you put me onto that. You also put me onto Islands. We didn't have that in Missouri.

[A]

Oh, my God. That was another one of my faves. Islands actually isn't good, but the smoothies are good. Oh, okay. It has good smoothies. And I was in Islands, girl. Oh, my God. I'd be downtown at the pike with islands. I would take a picture for Instagram. My Ray Bans next to my smoothie post. It put a real extreme filter on it, make it look real beachy.

[B]

2016.

[A]

Yeah, it was 2012. It was 2010, 2011, even. Okay. It was different times, but.

[B]

Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I love that all yours are, like, regional specific.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I'm like.

[A]

I'm trying to think of the big ones.

[B]

Like, there's like, Applebee's. There's Chili's. There's like. Okay. And then I'm trying to.

[A]

Oh, I did like TGI Fridays.

[B]

Right?

[A]

I did like TGI Fridays also, because they, like.

[B]

So it was between them and Chili's. They had, like, the. The. The pull. But Chili's went famous for the mozzarella stick pull. Like, that is like, that was like, one of the things that really got people to go back into Chili's recently was because that, like, mozzarella stick and. But TJI Friday's ones, they were crispier and a little bit more firm. You could also buy the ones and take them home. Like they had. You can buy the frozen TGI Friday, like, appetizers, potato skins. Like, I love a good, like, casual chain appetizer.

[A]

I really do. I want to. In fact, when I sit down at the table at a casual chain restaurant, I expect to order a bunch of apps. Everybody at the table kind of pick away at them. And I don't like when I eat with people at a. At a one of these types of restaurants, and they're like, oh, I don't want that app. And I don't want that app. That's fine. You don't have to eat that. Don't.

[B]

And I so don't like. You know what? Because, like, I'm like a. We're getting the sampler. Like, there's no questions asked.

[A]

I'm sitting down with my sampler. Is offered a sampler at Denny's. Oh, my God. Matter of fact, ihop. I forget that that's also a breakfast.

[B]

Yeah. That falls into this.

[A]

Ihop. Ihop down to this day. Never had a better pancake than an ihop. I mean it.

[B]

Okay. Pancake specific. Cause I'm saying. I'm saying. Cause I'm saying now the Waffle House does have. Waffle House has better waffles. But that's because that's literally, you know. Okay, we're getting ahead of ourselves. We're getting ahead of ourselves.

[A]

Tell me your favorite. I told y' all my favorite.

[B]

So first and foremost, my favorite restaurant, period. Around, like, in general. Not even just fast casual.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Rainforest Cafe.

[A]

I forget that you are a rainforest as an adult.

[B]

I love the Rainforest Cafe. It's because the vibe, so fun. It's so camp. It's so silly. And everyone's the exact same. It's gonna rain every 15 minutes. Like rain, thunderstorm. And it's like. It's like you're immersed in a theme.

[A]

I feel like Steve Irwin.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I really do.

[B]

It still is like, my mission to go to the remaining rainforest. I've been to the one in Paris. I've been to the one in Vegas. I've been to the one in Florida, the one in Texas. I've been to the one in New York. There's like three in Texas. I've only been to one. And there's also one in Tokyo. And I'm so sad that I did not go when I was there. I just.

[A]

You didn't go?

[B]

I was there for work and I didn't have time. But when I went to Paris, I took a train an hour out of the city to get to go to.

[A]

Was it different? Was exactly the same.

[B]

No, they're the exact same. The only one that is different is the one in Florida. Like, not the one in Disney, but the one, like, just outside of it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And like, they have, like a roller coaster. They have, like a water slide. It's. Rainforest Cafe is great. That's what I'm saying. It is so fucking great. And it's sad because they're. They're deforesting the world. The rainforests are going away. Save the rainforest. It's sad.

[A]

Oh, no, no, look. No, no, that's. I mean, my laptop is also.

[B]

But yeah. So by far, bar none, Rainforest Cafe is my favorite restaurant.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So that would be.

[A]

Period. Not even outside. Like, sorry, yeah.

[B]

Maybe I'm not being clear. My favorite restaurant.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Period.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Is the Rainforest Cafe, Missouri.

[A]

It is.

[B]

Because you know what else? We used to have a Dino Cafe, which is a Rainforest Cafe, but Dinosaurs, they discontinued.

[A]

That sounds really fun. It was so fun. That sounds better.

[B]

I think, for me, I just had very, like. I had a lot of birthday parties there as a Kid. So I have childhood memor for sure. So I'm attached.

[A]

I get that.

[B]

But okay. Now other than that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I love a hula hands, which is again, I know. Never heard of her. It's like a. It felt like upscale Applebee's. They're in the Midwest. I'm assuming in the south as well.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

And they have really. They're good for their Long island iced teas. Anytime I go back to Missouri, we get like. They have, like, bottomless Long Island. I see me and my friends, we get together and go get bottomless Long island ice season, and they go to Missouri.

[A]

I know y' all be fucked up.

[B]

My God.

[A]

Bottomless Long island iced teas.

[B]

Because I was an adult, I was, like, 28 when I found out that Long island iced teas is most. It's all alcohol in a splash of coke.

[A]

Long island is crazy. Why would they have bottomless? That feels like a liability.

[B]

I don't know. I guess in theory, they could cut you off. We have not been cut off.

[A]

We all be ordering more than one.

[B]

Yeah, they. We get, like, the pictures. Like, they're like giant pictures.

[A]

Okay, so y' all are pouring individual glasses out of that picture.

[B]

We individually, we are taking. You're lying.

[A]

I know you're not being honest.

[B]

I am. I am. Like, it's like. I mean, the picture is. It's probably about this size, like, with a handle. And we have more than one. Yes, Yes.

[A]

I am a guest.

[B]

They are so good. They're so good. So I would say that houlihands. And then I'm gonna give you a classic. I love a Chili's. Like, give me a Chili's any day. I would imagine that, like, Chili's Applebee's. Oh, God. You know what? Now I'm getting into it. It's 54th Street Grill. It was also a very Missouri thing. Did you guys have one?

[A]

No. 54th Street Grill. No, I'm thinking of Capital Grill.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Which is an A chain, but it's, like, upscale.

[B]

Oh, like. Like.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

54Th street had a thing called gringo dip, which now I think it's not racist. This is very awesome Missouri.

[A]

And let me guess what it was. It was like a. It was like a rotel. Was it like a cheese dip?

[B]

Like it was a cheese dip. It is queso. It's like. It was like queso spinach, I think onion. Like espanaca dip, essentially. But they called it gringo.

[A]

Never heard of that.

[B]

Espananca, I think. Is that. Am I. Hey, I Sorry to all of our Latino listeners if I am butchering. I think it's Espananca.

[A]

That's what we call it, that spinach dip, right?

[B]

Yeah, I think it's Espanaca. Not Spanish, but that's what we call it. Espanaca dip. Gringo is what they called it at 54th Street.

[A]

Espanaca Dip is a Mexican hot cheese spinach dip made from cooked and pureed spinach mixed with cheese, cream cheese, and spices.

[B]

There we go.

[A]

Sounds. Not for me.

[B]

Yeah. You would hate it.

[A]

But I.

[B]

The thing about the Midwest is that we have cheese on everything.

[A]

Oh. And that's why I couldn't live there.

[B]

But yeah, those are my favorite. That's where I'm coming. I think we're coming from different. Maybe we're similar vibes. I think mine are a little sillier than your vibes.

[A]

Yeah. But I do like a silly. I'm not mad at a silly.

[B]

I love it. Because, I mean, like, one of the reasons we brought this up, this episode up was like, the idea of, like, Red Lobster.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which I think is. It's, like, not silly, but it's also kind of silly because I remember growing up thinking about Red Lobster.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It felt fancy.

[A]

No, no. Red Lobster was. Was fine dining. Like, that's fine dining.

[B]

We went there with my grandma where I was like, oh, we are like, but we're going red lobs.

[A]

Wait, did you guys go to church at all?

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Where did you go after church?

[B]

First watch was our post church place.

[A]

First watch. I've never heard of that.

[B]

It's a breakfast place, and it might also be very local.

[A]

Is it a chain?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. There's more than one in Kansas City. I don't know if it's only Kansas City. Let me know if you guys had first watches in your state. But, yeah, we had, like, a couple in Kansas City, and it was like they had better pancakes than ihop. I'm not gonna lie. But that's local. It's small. It's, like, small. It felt more mom and poppy.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Where IHOP is pretty, but IHOP pancakes are also clutch.

[A]

They smack.

[B]

They do.

[A]

Ihop pancakes actually smacks every time I go to Denny's and I get a Denny's pancake. I'm like, this just isn't doing what it needs to do.

[B]

Have never been to a Denny's.

[A]

Shut up.

[B]

No, I. No, we. Because I would go to an awful. A Waffle House. The Awful Waffle is what we called it. I would go to Waffle House or ihop. I Know. I know what denies is like, I'm not like.

[A]

I mean, it is IHOP with worst pancakes. That's it, right?

[B]

And that's why I was like, I think anytime we were like, let's do something like that. Like a diner.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We would just go to ihop. Or I. But, like, me and my friends never picked Denny's. Like, I never was like, let's do Denny's.

[A]

So that's crazy.

[B]

So I've never been.

[A]

We need to go to Denny's. Yeah. Copier. Denny's chair. Yeah. Okay. You are in a whole fraternity. You ain't never been to no damn Denny.

[B]

Because we would go, I'm telling you, like, one of fraternity events. Actually, we would like, in Missouri, it was illegal to gamble. But in Arkansas, which was just, like, a couple hours away. So we would drive our. Which in retrospect, this was so dangerous. We would, like, our pledges or people who are pledging the fraternity, we would, like, drive them down. Like, we would, like, be like, yeah, we're gonna go on a thing. We would take them to Arkansas. And then the surprise was we were going to Downstream Casino. We would just take a gam. Take them a gamble, blah, blah. And then afterwards, we would go to ihop. Like, it was like, famously go to ihop Waffle House.

[A]

That's a fun tradition.

[B]

It was very fun.

[A]

After church, on Sundays, we would go to Eminem Soul food.

[B]

What is that?

[A]

Which is a chain, I want to say, very local. I would get the chitlins, you know, so soft.

[B]

That is mad ethnic.

[A]

Ew.

[B]

You actually actively. Like, also, a fast food or a casual dining restaurant has soul food.

[A]

They had chitterlings, and I would partake. I would partake in a little chitter here and there. It was very tasty.

[B]

How do you like your chitterlings? Or. What are chitterlings? Yeah, what is. Is it innards? It's like chicken innards.

[A]

It's. It's pork intestines. It's beef.

[B]

Something about that.

[A]

Pig intestines.

[B]

You know, pigs eat everything.

[A]

Yeah, me too. So what now?

[B]

So you know what? Fair enough.

[A]

Fair enough. Okay. Okay.

[B]

So it was Eminem, like the rapper.

[A]

M and M. Capital M and M.

[B]

Apostrophe S spell the second M. Same way.

[A]

The first.

[B]

I thought you meant like. Like auntie M. Like E, M O.

[A]

M, letter M. What are the M, Amberstan, letter M apostrophe.

[B]

S. Was it attached to Hershey's?

[A]

Are you okay? I'm.

[B]

I'm asking. I'm sorry. That felt like A valid question.

[A]

You think Eminem's soulful? Where I was. Where I was wearing chit lenses attached to Hershey's.

[B]

Maybe. Maybe that's why I was in Babe.

[A]

No, it wasn't.

[B]

Okay, well, great. Is it. There's more than one? I don't. I've never heard of.

[A]

I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I'm pretty sure there's more than one.

[B]

But that was your go to after church.

[A]

We would do that after church. And it was a good time and. Yeah.

[B]

Why was that such a thing? Did every, like, body. Like. Like. I guess it does feel like a very black family tradition too. Like post church, you just had like a. We're going to a. Maybe it's a family thing. I don't know if it's just a black thing, but we.

[A]

I think, oh, maybe. Maybe it is other people. It never occurred to me that non black people did this as well. But remember in one of those days, Issa's movie with Keke Palmer and Sza Kiki Palmer's character works at Pans, which is a restaurant in la. An LA Specific Restaurant. Very iconic. And in that movie, they're talking about the after church crowd. They're like, oh, you know, the after church crowd, blah, blah. The rush, blah, blah. So that made.

[B]

It's clearly a thing.

[A]

It's a thing. Yeah.

[B]

Pants reminds me. Like, it's similar to norms. I've never been to Pants, but I've been to norms. And I do like norms.

[A]

Yes. I like norms.

[B]

It's also LA Specific, I believe.

[A]

Is it?

[B]

I don't. We. I never heard of it before moving here. I only know it because of the iconic sign here.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, that's super interesting.

[B]

I get how, like, these are regional.

[A]

Me too. Cause you name shit I ain't never heard of. Well.

[B]

Cause like, did you guys have. This is spec. Kansas City is known for having, like, a lot of railway stuff. So we have a restaurant called Fritz. And so it's like a little. My niece and I love to go. Anytime I'm in town, I take her. It's like at Crown Center. And so you order. You pick up the phone and you order through the phone. And then, like, I love a theme restaurant.

[A]

It's really fun. I like a themed restaurant too. We don't have enough of that.

[B]

And. Cause like, so then after you order, there's like a train track that runs around the top of the whole ceiling. And then so you see like, little trays come down. And so you're like, oh, is that one Ours. And then like. And then it lowers. That is so fucking really cute.

[A]

That's why I like those, like, revolving sushi restaurants, because the sushi is never good. But I enjoy the vibe. Like the entire vibe. It was like, I'm living in the future a little bit. Anyway, so you were talking about Red Lobster and it being fine dining. Absolutely was fine dining.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So much so Beyonce even has a lyric. Okay. When he fuck me good, I take his ass to Red Lobster because I slay.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

Period. Okay. Do you believe that Beyonce has spent any amount of time in a Red Lobster?

[B]

You know what I feel like? Yes. I think Beyonce went to Red lobster in like, 1993. That's what I'm saying. I believe that when Beyonce was in Houston, Texas, her and her family went to Red Lobster. I don't think Beyonce has set foot in a Red Lobster since.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Until she made that lyric. And then they were like, hey, we would love to have you come do something. I'm sure she has been since. Only because it's like a low key brand deal.

[A]

Yeah, 100%.

[B]

Do you think? Because you know that, like, restaurants do kind of like do collabs with places. Like they do. They like, do kind of like that product placement thing in songs. I don't know if this was one of them, but I can't tell. Do you think that they came to her or. Or is that her just trying to be more relatable?

[A]

I think that's her trying to be more relatable because I'm thinking about, like, Break My Soul on Renaissance and like, Lemonade obviously was a few albums before that. And that's where the Red Lobster line comes from. But Beyonce's been pushing relatability for 10 years now. Probably about 10 years. And before that, she wasn't pushing that. And so I think that was just the beginning of her pushing relatability. And then she just been doing that. Yeah. With a billion dollars in her bank account. Neither here nor there, you know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

So, yeah.

[B]

Because I'm like, what do you. Do you think she's gone in recent years? Do you think Blue has ever been to a Red Lobster?

[A]

Absolutely. Blue said, what is this place nasty? Oh my God. That's what she does when she goes. She said, oh, my God, relax. Yeah, Actually, that's what that is.

[B]

Yeah. Cuz I guess when he me good, I take his ass to. No, boo doesn't roll off the same. The Flophouse is a podcast where we watch a bad movie and then we talk about it.

[A]

Robert Shaw in Jaws, and they're trying to figure out how to get rid of the ghoulies. And he scratches his nails and goes, I'll get your ghoulie. He's just standing above the toilet with a harpoon.

[B]

No, I was just looking forward to.

[A]

You going through the other ways in.

[B]

Which Wild Wild west is historically inaccurate. Do you know how much movies cost nowadays? When you add in your popcorn and your bagel bites and your cheese fritters.

[A]

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[B]

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[A]

I mean, some people probably don't.

[B]

Okay. But a lot of people do. So say you're one of those people and you feel like you don't really have anyone to talk to about the games that you like. Well, you should get some better friends. Yes, you get some better friends. But you could also listen to TripleClick, a weekly podcast about video games hosted by me, Kirk Hamilton, me, Maddy Myers, and me, Jason Schreier. We talk about new releases, old classics, industry news, and whatever, really.

[A]

We'll show you new things to love about games and maybe even help you find new friends to talk to about them.

[B]

Triple click. It's kind of like we're your friends. Find [e-mail] or wherever you get your podcast guests. Yeah. Cause I guess when he me good, I take his ass to Nobu. Doesn't roll off the same when he.

[A]

That makes a lot more sense Balance.

[B]

Right? Where do you think she does?

[A]

Oh, and I do love Nobu.

[B]

I'm trying to think if I've ever been. I don't think I have, but maybe I have.

[A]

I. They're not snacks.

[B]

Nobu is separate from Soho. Right. They're not the same.

[A]

They're not the same at all.

[B]

Okay, then I don't. I don't think I have.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, no. Nobu's good. Noble is great. You would call it casual dining.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. If I wouldn't, I would include it here. I think there is tears.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Of, like, what the casual chain dining experience is.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Nobu being like.

[B]

Like top.

[A]

Top tier.

[B]

So, okay. Would Nobu fall into like, a Tao is up there? Like, they're like chains restaurants that, like, it is a chain, but it's not like an Applebee's.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And no knock on Apple. Cause I love an Applebee's. But yeah, so there's like a towel, a Nobu. I'm trying to think of, like. Like In N Out. Oh, I'm joking.

[A]

That's my west coast bias showing.

[B]

And then I want. The next thing that's coming to mind is Benihana, which I don't think is.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

Also, I've never been. There's so many I haven't been.

[A]

I might put Benihana.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

It seems. It does feel like maybe it gets. What will we name these tears? Like, if. No. What would Nobu's tear be called?

[B]

So these are like the. The like sceney. I think Noble would be like the sceney place. Like, places that, like, you might run into a celebrity at this type of spot.

[A]

You might run into Ray J at Benihana also. But there's celebrities. You know what I mean? So what celebrity are we talking about? So Tyra Banks goes to Noble. Right? Right.

[B]

And like. And like, Mariah Carey had her birthday at Tao. So, like, those type of places, you might run into them there.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

It's like.

[A]

It's accept.

[B]

Although Mariah Carey is a little unsuccessful. Unaccessible. Unaccessible. Not unsuccessful. Sorry. Tyra Banks, I think is more. Not attainable. You know what I'm saying?

[A]

I totally understand what you're saying.

[B]

More likely to be.

[A]

You can run into Tyra on the.

[B]

Street and you're not running Mari Care on the street, but they both would go to, like, a Nobu or a tower.

[A]

Right.

[B]

In a way that I don't think you're running into me. Like, she is, like, shutting anywhere she goes. Is downtown.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

More of the story. I think that there's like, that level. And then I think I've never been to Benihani, so I don't know. But, like, I. I do think that would be.

[A]

I think that would be a drop under. Right? Yeah.

[B]

Would you put PF and like, so again, you grew up in la. Y' all have real. Like, I'm like, we had to me, Benihana was. Or me. PF Chang's was nice to me. Cheesecake Factory was nice.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Texas Roadhouse, I think that was like a prom destination.

[A]

Like, Texas Roadhouse was a problem destination.

[B]

People did. I did Buca di Beppo for my problem.

[A]

Obviously, you had taste, of course.

[B]

Yeah. We were like. We went to Buca Beppo for prom, but that was also, like, nice. So I would put those at like, these are fat. They're casual dining restaurants. But they're like, you go here for occasion.

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Yes, exactly. Benihana. You go here for a birthday. Like, you're in, like. I mean, like a 21st, right? A 30th. You know what I mean? You're going here for, like, a landmark birthday, right?

[B]

And I think Red Lobster's up there, too. Yes. Or you put Red Lobster below Benihana.

[A]

Red Lobster can be first Sunday after church.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

More frequent still. Maybe a little bit of an occasion, but not like a landmark birthday. You can do your birthday there for sure still. But maybe it's any birthday. Maybe it's like, oh, for my 32nd, I want to go to Red Lobster.

[B]

Yeah. It's like, it's where you take your grandma.

[A]

It's not. You know what I mean?

[B]

It's like, okay, it's a Mother's Day. And you're like, okay, we have to do something nice. But we're not, like, blowing the bag. It's just like, we're gonna go to Red Lobster.

[A]

Me and my niece just went for shits and gigs recently. Yeah. We were out shopping for her back to school wear, and we looked. We were like, we're hungry.

[B]

Like, red.

[A]

Where do we go? And it was just in the same plaza. We said, look, how old is lobster right there? She's 13.

[B]

I can't imagine. I don't think I would have liked Red Lobster. I know I wouldn't have at 13.

[A]

You wouldn't have liked it.

[B]

I was a much pickier eater. You only know me as an adult where I will just kind of eat whatever. Oh, you were a picky eater. I was a picky eater as a kid.

[A]

And Red Lobster didn't meet the cheddar Bay Biscuits didn't meet the Red Lobster.

[B]

I probably would have done a biscuit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I think the idea of, like, cracking a crab leg.

[A]

Well, it has steak. Yeah, I'm sure.

[B]

Yeah, I'm sure there was a blood. But it was probably one of those things where my mom was like, we're not. I'm not taking you to Red Lobster to get chicken.

[A]

Chicken tenders, you know? Yeah, I get that.

[B]

But, yeah, I think. And then I think. So, like, Applebee's, I think, is like middle tier. That is like your after high school hangout. Like, because I. We would hang out in Applebee's or Chili's or stuff like that.

[A]

Like, after Friday night, we were hanging out in BJ's. Like, exactly. Yeah.

[B]

It's like we're going to a movie and then going to 100 Applebee's. That's where those.

[A]

Somebody told me that Applebee's used to be the club. Like, it used to turn into a.

[B]

Who said this?

[A]

My mom. My mom told me that when she was young. I swear to God. Let me Google this. But, like, your mom is.

[B]

Maybe it was a club for her. What do you mean?

[A]

My mom said they like clearing tables. They closed at 10 and reopened at 11 as a club. And they had a DJ, music, tables cleared.

[B]

I love the idea that your mom just like went to a local Applebee's in Chicago where, like, the owner was just like. Like, I also want to be a club owner. So he was. I'm saying, no, not nationwide.

[A]

I.

[B]

This man was like, I am just turning mine into a club.

[A]

What does this say? 2016, 2026. Applebee's date night pass returns for Club Applebee's members. No, that's not. That's what I'm talking about. It's either Applebees or Chilies, but I think it's Applebees.

[B]

I'm telling you. I don't think that that was a nationwide thing. I think your mom just went to one where they. Maybe either your mom went to a Applebees that became a club.

[A]

I don't know. That's.

[B]

But I think something about that tier of like, casual.

[A]

Oh, no. Applebee's previously tested a Club Applebee's concept, particularly in Florida, transforming into a nightlife spot after 10pm with DJs, dim lights and dancing around. 100 locations featured this setup, offering themed nights, drink specials to attract a younger crowd.

[B]

And it attracted your mom?

[A]

My mom, when she was. She said she used to be party. And they operated from 10pm until 2am wow. Offered heavily discounted late night apps and drinks.

[B]

Would you turn up at Applebee's in.

[A]

The 80s and 90s?

[B]

Okay. Wow. Okay. That is right in your mom's like. Like young adult face.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

How old is Applebee's? I don't think I realized it was.

[A]

That old, I guess. Oh, no, you know what? Sorry. It says themed nights. 80s and 90s themed nights.

[B]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which would also explain why your mom would be like, I'm going.

[A]

Because she's like, that's my shit. Yeah, like they're having. Yeah, no, no. They're putting on for my time, silly. But yeah, my mom was at Applebee's. What. What are some red flag first date orders? So the idea behind this episode was for it to come out around Valentine's Day.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Because, you know, we love a fast casual dining experience.

[B]

Because I feel like Valentine's Day is like, you want to do something, but you like, again, it's like a Red lobster is a great Valentine's Day option because it's like, nice enough, but it's not like we're spinning up. But also, I will be happy with the Red Robin, which I also was an employee of. I sure did work at Red Robin. But yeah, I think I love a past casual.

[A]

So when you worked at Red Robin and you saw people come in on a first date, what was a red flag? If somebody put in. You were like, if.

[B]

To me, I don't feel this way about women, which maybe this is sexist of me.

[A]

I was honestly had it for men too.

[B]

Same. It's like, men, I can come up.

[A]

With something who are adults.

[B]

And honestly, I'm thinking if you were over the age of. Really?

[A]

And I agree. I know what you're about to say. Chicken tenders. Don't.

[B]

Are you kidding?

[A]

You know, I was dating a man and he really had a deep affinity for chicken. Like, anytime we would try to order anything else while we were out, he'd be like, do you have like, chicken tenders? Or, like, whatever. And I remember thinking, I can't date you because I can't take you. Like, if I want to travel to Tokyo. You're not about to embarrass me by asking for fucking chicken tenders. Are you crazy? And he would, like, not like anything.

[B]

Imagine you're. So you're saying, like, you would go to places that had, like, pasta, blah, blah, blah. And his to go to was. I was like, do you have.

[A]

This man took me to a restaurant that was up on like the 26th floor, downtown LA, that revolved. And you could just like, see the whole view of downt town at sunset. It was beautiful. Ask for chicken tenders at the restaurant.

[B]

I said, it feels embarrassing.

[A]

It's Valentine's Day. Why are you asking for chicken tenders? Are you okay?

[B]

I agree. I'm like. Because I feel like there's just. I. I would prefer you order a chicken sandwich. Like, there's just something about a chicken tender that is. I'm saying, I'm like, if you must do. If you're. Because I get that you're not.

[A]

Order ketchup.

[B]

I agree. Don't. If it doesn't come with it on the side. You can be like, can I get a catch?

[A]

I'm like, oh, my God, I'm dry.

[B]

You know what else sucks for me? Like, to me, if you. I don't like too Many modifications. I get allergies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I hate like, oh, like no tomato to me. But then you get ketchup. Also. Red flag for me, really. Because I'm like, what does a. I.

[A]

Just stopped saying no tomato recently because I was like, I actually don't really care that much. I don't.

[B]

I don't need the podcast.

[A]

Well, tomatoes just like water. I'm like, okay, I don't really need my burger to be any wetter than it is. But now I just like, will have it. I'm like, whatever. Or I'll take it off if I don't feel like it. But it's not like offensive.

[B]

I think it's so. To me, it just feels very childish to be like no tomato.

[A]

What feels childish to me is no onion. I'm like, it doesn't have any taste.

[B]

Yeah, it's just onion.

[A]

That's a flavor. That's a flavor thing. Where tomato doesn't add a flavor. Like, I'm like, it's just here, it's wet and it's present.

[B]

It's just adding more. Like it's. It's girth and it complements the juice of the burger.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In a world where the burger is overcooked, the tomato juice will help you. Like.

[A]

Oh, and if you serve me an overcooked burger, I'm annoyed.

[B]

So also that I think that, like the way you order things. I also hate a well done steak. Allow it. It's like, it's like a beige flag. It's a little bit like a questionable but for you. Order a well done steak then chicken tenders.

[A]

You know, our people love a well done steak.

[B]

My mom is like that. I feel like my older black people.

[A]

Love a well done steak. They said, why is it pink at all? I don't. It's not chicken. It's okay if it's pink. You won't get salmonella. I promise.

[B]

You would be surprised by how many people also order. Like when I was waiting tables.

[A]

Shut up. I've heard this before.

[B]

Can I get chicken well done? And I'm like, like what? They would piss me off cuz I'm like that. There's no. That's not a thing. Chicken well done is not a thing. It is just done.

[A]

I've heard that sometimes white people will come in and order chicken medium rare or like, you're being funny.

[B]

I never joking.

[A]

I've heard, I've heard server say that on Tik Tok they'd be like, I.

[B]

Would like my chicken with a side of salmonella. Right?

[A]

Can I have it? Can I have it rare? And they'd be like, no, no.

[B]

Actually literally illegal.

[A]

Quite literally. No. We can't save you. We can't serve you rare chicken.

[B]

That's crazy to me. Like, I'm like, yeah, but I've heard well done all the time. I think.

[A]

Yeah. Do they mean like, fried hard?

[B]

That is different. I know what you mean. By Friday.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

They will be talking about like a grilled chicken sandwich. No, I mean, like, they might. No, I don't think. I only remember with like a grilled chicken sandwich.

[A]

If you're saying you want your chicken well done, I'm thinking you want like a dry ass.

[B]

Oh, maybe that is, you know, I.

[A]

Mean, like, you don't want it to have moisture in it.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

That's all I'm hearing.

[B]

All my customers that I got annoyed with for saying well done. If you just meant that you wanted it dry, I am sorry, cuz I would get annoyed with you.

[A]

I am judging you.

[B]

I judge so much.

[A]

I'm definitely judging you for wanting it dry. But like, okay.

[B]

Red Robin was one of those places that was like, famous for the bottomless fries. And that was the terrible etiquette when you would come and be like, fries. And I'm like, to me a. You don't get the fries just because you came in. It's not Chili's where you get chips and sauce. You get the fries with a meal. So, like, stop going into Red Robin demanding fries. And immediately. That's not how that works. But that used to piss me off.

[A]

I get that also.

[B]

Red flag, huh? Red Robin, Yum. It was. I. So I worked there alongside working at Buzzfeed. So I would do both.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So much fun. I.

[A]

The whole time or just in.

[B]

Up until I was full time. So like through the internship. But I loved it. I, I, I, I only quit because I was like, oh, I have to be in the office full time.

[A]

But.

[B]

But whenever. If there ever was a time where I had to go back to wedding tables, I would. I.

[A]

You've said that.

[B]

I think also, red flag. It's not an order. But being rude, I think to me, I'm like, be kind.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Being rude servers.

[A]

That's insane.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

You know what else I would like to point out as a red flag? What? H. I feel like. I feel like I'm getting into sketchy territory. I know.

[B]

I wonder if you're going to say what I think.

[A]

I, I love my people. I really do. I love you. I promise, if you Order Hennessy anything. If you order something with Hennessy in it, I'm leaving. Like, oh, yeah, I'm leaving. I don't. Yeah, we're okay.

[B]

I thought this was a classy party.

[A]

You know what? I'm like, hennessy.

[B]

You know what's funny? That is my stepdad down like boots.

[A]

My dad was a Hennessy man. I go out with my brother. Yeah, can I have Hennessy? My brother will sometimes do Jack and Coke, and that's fine. Yeah. And when he be getting into Hennessy.

[B]

I said, oh, we are we. I agree. There's a Jack and Coke. Makes sense. Hennessy is like, oh, we're dipping into a different territory, you know, and we are not there.

[A]

I'm scared.

[B]

Yeah. I'm like, we're not at a kick.

[A]

I don't know what we're doing.

[B]

Is this questionable? Are we?

[A]

I think we're getting a little.

[B]

Because I'm like, I don't think I have a problem with Hennessy in general. Hennessy just gives a little Zeus network. You know what it is?

[A]

That's my feelings on it. That's my feelings on it. And I'm like.

[B]

And I say that in the way of.

[A]

You morph into Ray J in my brain as you're sitting in front of me when you Hennessy leaves your mouth.

[B]

And it's like, I don't have a problem with everyone on Zeus network. It's not like, blanket statement. Everyone on Zeus network is bad. I'm just saying that there are quite a few people who are on Zeus network that I'm like, I would not associate with 100%.

[A]

So.

[B]

And that's what I'm saying. So I think when you order Hennessy, you are dipping into.

[A]

You know what I mean? It gets a little funny. It gets a little funny. I'll leave that there. But that's a red flag for me personally trying to think, is there anything else that's a red flag? This is not an order. But if we're at a casual dining restaurant on a first date and you asked me to split the bill. Oh, sorry.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

No red flag. You have to go.

[B]

I don't know that I have that. I think maybe it's been dating men, so. Oh, only because it's casual and. Okay, so let's go back.

[A]

I mean, honestly, if we're on a first date. If we're on a first date and you ask me, we're not going on second date. And it just, like. It's just an etiquette thing, you know, like, it's less about, like, money or any capacity. Like, I'm always happy to pay for myself. That's totally fine. Sure. But it tells me that you don't have the manners or, like, like, the values that I have.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I'm like, yeah, we're just misaligned.

[B]

Like, you're just more of a barometer.

[A]

You're not going to go on the outside of the street when I'm walking. You're not. The chivalry is dead to you. It is actually dead. And it's not dead to me.

[B]

Tris.

[A]

That bitch is alive and well in our household.

[B]

She lives. Saves my purse.

[A]

You know what I mean?

[B]

Interesting. I I I understand what you're saying. I feel like specifically paying on the first date. While I do agree.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think it means that they're not chivalrous. I under. I think to me there's a line and I think that is where I'm like, I don't know that it falls on the unit.

[A]

It deeply falls there.

[B]

But how you can be like, oh, for me, personally, I will want my person to be someone who pays on the first date. And so we can't.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We wouldn't be compatible. There's not anything wrong with you. The person is.

[A]

Oh. And it's not a money. Like, people always, like, want to get free meals on first dates. Baby. You think, I. I don't need a free meal out of you. Are you crazy?

[B]

I also, I'm not homeless. And I. And maybe this is just a me thing because I do think that there are people who don't behave this way. I never go somewhere or order if I cannot afford to pay for the whole thing. 1000 I yeah. I'm like, I literally will buy the.

[A]

Entire bill if I can't pay for it three times over. I'm like going.

[B]

And I'll just say, and I don't have any shame about it, but audio. Sorry, I can't do it.

[A]

But I'm like, yeah, if you don't think that I am butt ugly and you order all this food and decide to go to the bathroom, never come back. No.

[B]

That trope in the movies wouldn't affect me. I'm like, oh, that sucks. But I can't afford this.

[A]

I'm going in the back and busting dishes. I'm not. I'm good. I'm putting the car down and we're good to go.

[B]

Yeah. I But I get that.

[A]

Yeah. Can we talk about where casual dining chains have appeared in pop culture?

[B]

Oh, Right. Other than the Beyonce of it.

[A]

Oh, so we have Beyonce. We have Formation. Me. Good. I take his assassin lobster. Jonas Brothers has a song called Waffle House. Get it done.

[B]

I don't know the words, but the melody at the Waffle House. This is like them post divorce or post Joe's divorce.

[A]

Yeah, it's, like, newish.

[B]

Yeah. And that's the one, like, you know, where Joe Jonas, like, steps and turns and they don't turn. Have you seen that, TikTok?

[A]

Every time you say that, I have no clue. Jonathan.

[B]

They were on a concert, and, like, they had this moment when everyone in the band, they're in a line, they all take a step backwards and they turn. It's like a choreography. Like, light choreography. One time Joe just said, fuck that. He just, like, keeps dancing. And then, like, Nick, who is the Virgo of the group, like, looks and goes, nick be so annoying.

[A]

Irritating.

[B]

And it was very funny. But Joe was like, meh or whatever. But yes, they're doing it during Waffle.

[A]

House, and it's like, one of their.

[B]

Newer songs that I enjoy, but they also feel like they're, like, cosplaying regular. Cause I don't. I'm like, when was the last time.

[A]

You boys have been to a goddamn Waffle House? I believe Kevin has been.

[B]

And now. Why. Why would you say that about Kevin?

[A]

So moving on.

[B]

You know who else I was saying? Cheeseburger in paradise and Margaritaville, which are both songs by Jimmy Buffett and also restaurants owned by Jimmy Buffett.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Marketing genius.

[A]

Jimmy Buffett, the Microsoft man.

[B]

What?

[A]

That's Warren Buffett?

[B]

I don't even think that that is the same person. Warren Buffett is a billionaire who is unrelated to Microsoft.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

Microsoft is Bill Gates, which is completely separate. And Jimmy Buffett is awesome.

[A]

You know every goddamn thing. You got your degree. Okay.

[B]

The Microsoft man is crazy.

[A]

Fuck you. Oh, damn. Warren Buffett is 95. Yeah.

[B]

Warren Buffett's.

[A]

Yeah. He still got 140 billion. Is.

[B]

The other thing about Warren Buffett is he actually has the money. Most billionaires today, it's all.

[A]

It's, like, tied up. Yeah. It's liquid.

[B]

I have billions in the bank.

[A]

Is he the one that said that he's not giving it to his kids for.

[B]

No, I think that's Bill Gates.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't know. Warren Buffett might also be on that. Bill Gates is the one who's like, I giving it to the world.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't know where Warren Buffett falls into that, but he's the one who's like, I have the money. It is not. It's not tied up in things.

[A]

I'm nothing like you homies.

[B]

Yeah, you all are billionaires.

[A]

I have to show you my assets.

[B]

It's not according to Forrest.

[A]

It's liquid.

[B]

It's according to Chase.

[A]

Right. Hello.

[B]

It's on the statement.

[A]

It's sitting right there. 50% is in my back.

[B]

I'm getting a little cramped right now. He's coming in. He's like, the money's in the bank. He's like, you shut talking about the money anyway, but do you know cheeseburger in paradise or wasted away downtown in margaritas Pass.

[A]

Faces. Passing.

[B]

You don't listen to white music at all. Margaritaville is very fun. Like, they have one in Vegas. And, like, they're, like, in, like, big cities that have, like, those type of, like, I think, like a Hard Rock Cafe. It's similar to that vibe I get.

[A]

Hard Rock Cafe and Rainforest Cafe mix up.

[B]

Don't ever disrespect.

[A]

I get them mixed up pretty.

[B]

They're literally not the same at all.

[A]

Is there a Rainforest Cafe in downtown Disney?

[B]

Not here, no. In Downtown Disney World, like the one in Florida.

[A]

So it must be Hard Rock Cafe. That's in downtown Disney.

[B]

Probably. Yeah. And honestly, Hard Rock Cafes are also going away. We used to have one at Universal. No, it would have been at Universal, not at Disney. And it is gone now. But there was. But didn't we go to Hard. I think we went to Hard Rock. Me, you, and our mom.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But that one's gone now. Yeah, it's something else now.

[A]

But bubblegum shrimp.

[B]

I've never been to that either. I know. What, again?

[A]

It's like, that was a birthday place. That was a birthday.

[B]

Oh, it's also elevated then. Bubba. Bubble Gump shrimp.

[A]

Bubble Gump, Yeah.

[B]

Did that come before or after the movie?

[A]

I have to think it came after. After.

[B]

Really? I don't know. I actually don't know because I think that also is cultural. And it came up in a movie and then popped up. I'm trying to think what else was like, another. Like, the only other things that come to mind. These are fast food. But I do love that Mary J. Blige is crispy. It's chicken. And I'm like, it is. So it's a Burger King commercial.

[A]

It's crispy chicken.

[B]

It's a crispy chicken wrap. They had, like. Are you being funny? No.

[A]

Working at the a. Oh, no, no, no. They have chicken fries. Oh, my God. I love chicken Fries.

[B]

So, yeah, I'm gonna say, wow, you're.

[A]

I love chicken fries bad.

[B]

Sorry. This is also making me. There's so many songs with these things in it. You. My niece loves this song. It's fancy. Like, it's a country song. I feel like most of these songs are like. Like old white men doing it. But it's like, yeah, we fancy like Applebees on a date night. And you don't see me. It was like a commercial and it's like you are unfazed.

[A]

I'm gonna go to have it. Yeah. Happy moment. No, no, no.

[B]

Yeah, you know, that's fine. The Missouri in me jumps out quite a bit.

[A]

It does. Lately it's been screaming.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I don't know what you're going through, but lately the Missouri been wanting to bust out.

[B]

Fancy like is a good song. And that one also mentions Applebee's.

[A]

You know what else is a good song? What kind of. Oh, that Drake song where he mentions Cheesecake Factory and has Tyra Banks in the music video. Did you ever see the music video?

[B]

I have no idea.

[A]

What's the. Okay, so the lyric is, why you gotta fight with me at Cheesecake? You know, I love to go there. Say I'm acting light skinned. I can'. You nowhere. This is for the families that drive Camry and go to Disney. They don't need to know all of our business.

[B]

I. None of it is ringing a bell. What's the name?

[A]

Whoa. What is the name?

[B]

Oh, bounce that. Like, whoa. Yeah, bounce it. I don't know what the song is called, but it's not called Bounce. Like.

[A]

Well, no, sorry.

[B]

Tyra Banks is in this. That move. That's a song that is later.

[A]

What is happening in the music video that's on views in the music video? It's Drake and Tyra on a date. And Tyra starts. You know, it's like an intermission. Tyra starts going off at him. Him in the cheesecake. I think she dumps water or dumps her drink on him. And he said, then he starts, why you gotta fight with me at Cheesecake? You know, I love to go there.

[B]

None of this rings any bells to me. The crazy thing about this is that feels like a weird match. Why?

[A]

Child's play. That's the name of the song.

[B]

I. I know the bouncers. I know the song. This video. I'm looking at the visuals of this now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

None of this is sinking. Like, no memories are coming to mind.

[A]

Okay, but you know what? It was like a blip. I Don't know why this one didn't like, like it was like a blip. The music video was a blip. I just happened upon it when I was looking at the song on YouTube.

[B]

That's wow.

[A]

Yeah. Years ago.

[B]

But okay. I also feel like Drake doesn't go to Cheesecake. Actually, never mind. Drake absolutely goes to Cheesecake. I think he would cuz he's kind of a bird in that way. Like he's like a celebrity who like loves attention. So he would do it. I mean the way you know how Bow Wow had that video where he's like, they don't know who I am. Drake would also do it. He just happens to be famous enough to where like it would actually be like funny thing.

[A]

No 100%. There was like a Tik Tok video where a girl was sitting at a bar. Didn't seem like an upscale place or what or whatever. She's literally making a video of herself and Drake quite literally walks up to her, gets in the video. He's just like talking and she's like, what the. And they just like start chopping it up. He gets her drink and goes away. I also think about him renting out that strip club in its entirety so that he could watch a football game that he bet on or something.

[B]

Yeah. And then like there's that photo. He looks like a loser in that photo. It's super sad because he got like a laptop and he's in his.

[A]

He has a laptop. He has a fur on. He's sitting in the strip club by himself. There's no other human being around him. So yeah, I do believe that he goes to Cheesecake.

[B]

He does, does he? Absolutely.

[A]

Speaking of Cheesecake Factory is really nasty to me.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

Like I've never had a single thing that I like a Cheesecake Factory and people talk. That's the one that I feel like people are like, I love Cheesecake Factory. Like I like this. This. I've tried a bunch of stuff at Cheesecake Factory. Only thing I like is the strawberry lemonade.

[B]

I'm. I know I've been to Cheesecake Factory, but now that you're mentioning it, I can't think of a. Like most of these restaurants I can point to an item.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There just feels. So you know what the problem is?

[A]

What?

[B]

It's cuz the book is too big. It is a big book and people talk about you have to study.

[A]

It's overwhelming.

[B]

And that's why it's all bad is because you can't. Because you don't do you do too? So nothing can be done.

[A]

Well, now I will say, apparently I've been watching Cheesecake. I got on Cheesecake Factory. Tik Tok. So apparently Cheesecake Factory is one of the few of this type of restaurant that has, like real chefs. Like, real chefs that are like doing real stuff in the back. Like actual cooking, like not microwaving, preparing. They have multiple chefs that come in at different times of day in order to prepare certain things so they're the freshest that they can be. And only certain things go in the refrigerator. Like, apparently factor is debt Serious.

[B]

That's crazy.

[A]

And a lot of people start their real chef careers as at Cheesecake Factory chefs.

[B]

Then maybe that. Maybe the one you went to was bad. Maybe they just had bad.

[A]

I've been to multiple.

[B]

Oh, I've been multiple.

[A]

The one at the Grove.

[B]

Well, I mean, that's my least favorite one. Although I do like the one at the Grove. Or I like that you can look out at the movie. Like, I love that you can sit on those outside boots.

[A]

Oh, I've never been on the outside booth.

[B]

You mentioned the movie the out of the Girl, right? You know how you can look up and like, see the Cheesecake Factory and. Okay, nevermind. Moving right along.

[A]

Didn't know anything about that.

[B]

But yeah, Cheesecake Factory doesn't stand out in any way to me. But you know, one other thing I. This actually just happened. Chili's. Those. I like that. The social media of all these companies, they also now like, like the joke of the intern runs it. Chili's recently sent out a Facebook post, which is crazy. They posted this on Facebook and it was like, if you're still spending money at fast food when you can get a burger with fries, a drink, and bottomless chips and salsa for $10.99 at Chili's, you're weird and we feel bad for you.

[A]

We're. You're weird and we feel bad for you.

[B]

It's funny.

[A]

That's good social.

[B]

And I feel like Chili's is really good at social. I think, like, them.

[A]

And like, I've heard that. I haven't seen it, but I've heard that Chili's is really good at social.

[B]

I think. Didn't Eli. Didn't he, like, become a Chili's guy? I think he like. Right, exactly. Our. Our former coworker.

[A]

Coworker. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[B]

He was. He used to tweet at Chili's all the time and they like tweeted him back.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, he. But Chili's is very Fun. And I think that that is my favorite type of. Like, I love doing like that. And I would love to go back because fast food is very expensive right now, and I would rather go to Chili's or, like, a casual.

[A]

Honestly. Yeah. I'm kind of into it. I'm a TGI Fridays girl. So, like, between Chili and TGIs, they do. Yeah, yeah. Between Chili's and TGI, I'm always gonna choose TGI. They have better wings. Oh, the way. And they have a. They used to have bottomless wings. I don't remember if they have them still. I lived in D.C. we would go to TGI Fridays every Friday, right? And. And I got cussed out by one of the waitresses.

[B]

Why?

[A]

We were. Mind you, we were college students. So, like, we're. We're poor. She was stank. As had the worst attitude.

[B]

Oh, no tip service.

[A]

People on the east coast are different. I'm like, oh, you. You guys are mean. Why the would I tip you? Are you serious?

[B]

We went to D.C. for your birthday. I think that was my first. It wasn't my first time in D.C. but we were out. And I remember that waiter was also stank. Not great. It was very.

[A]

And she was way nicer than this tgi. We. We had horrible service from her all night. Had the biggest attitude with our group. Somebody's fool came with hair, and she had an attitude about having to take back. It was too much. And then at the end, we left her, like, a little bit something. Mind you. I would never do this, but we left her, like, $3 or something. This chased us out of that. Chili's cussing us clean out. Like, it's like a group of, like, four of us. She's like, I know y' all didn't just leave this $3 tip when y' all been sitting in this booth for three hours, popping y', all, like, literally.

[B]

Whoa.

[A]

Cussing. That's what I said.

[B]

Also, lady, your job. Don't you have work other tables to get to?

[A]

You're worried about the wrong things, babe. Nobody's giving you a tip. Now look how crazy you acting around a crazy restaurant. You crazy.

[B]

I was like, is your manager not coming out?

[A]

No. And no, they didn't. That's.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I feel like that. And then also, sorry, Atlanta listeners. Atlanta also has very bad service. I remember that's why people were getting.

[A]

Beat up at Waffle House.

[B]

It's. And Atlanta loves a goddamn Waffle House. There's so many Waffle Houses in Atlanta.

[A]

But I've had Waffle House. But I just wasn't.

[B]

You never had it?

[A]

I. I just wasn't deeply impressed. I went for breakfast. Somebody told me that I needed to go late night after the club.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Oh my God. I've never been during the club and.

[A]

I went for breakfast. Yeah.

[B]

Oh, you went to a Waffle House in the daylight.

[A]

I did.

[B]

No, you did.

[A]

And I was like, okay.

[B]

Waffle House is something you do at night for sure.

[A]

Okay, okay.

[B]

It's like diner at night.

[A]

Okay. Should we end with a game?

[B]

Oh, yes. I love a game.

[A]

Yay or nay. Bing sang Happy Birthday really loud in the middle of the love one of these restaurants. Yay.

[B]

I love attention.

[A]

Okay. I'm yay on that too. Yeah. Yeah. Why not? It's my birthday.

[B]

I hate when you go to a thing with someone and they're like, don't.

[A]

Sing Happy Birthday to me.

[B]

Then why are we here? Why are we out right now?

[A]

We're celebrating your.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, then let's not go.

[A]

Stop acting.

[B]

Yeah, we can do this at your house.

[A]

Okay. We can sit at your house then.

[B]

That makes me so.

[A]

You're getting on my nerves. That actually, let's be okay. Ordering sizzling fajitas and you're not the birthday person. Oh, there's discourse about this online. Do you know?

[B]

I've no. I feel. I have no thoughts.

[A]

People feel away about you ordering something that's so attention grabbing at their birthday dinner. They didn't order it.

[B]

That's insane to me. You are silly. We can't. I'm sorry. We cannot be friends if you are gonna get mad at me because I. What if I love a fajita? What if. What do you want me to order something?

[A]

Just order for your birthday. Make love of fajita. So bad.

[B]

Yeah, it's bringing.

[A]

It's sizzling. Getting all this attention. It's my birthday.

[B]

See, that's what they're like. Who's arguing?

[A]

This is a real.

[B]

This is a real argument that takes.

[A]

Place on the Internet. I'm telling you now. What about so that's a. So that's a.

[B]

That's. I'm saying yay.

[A]

Yeah, I'm going to order my fajitas.

[B]

Nay on you being upset.

[A]

Loser.

[B]

Yeah. Big loser.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. Being proposed to in the ring is in your dessert or champagne at one of these restaurants.

[B]

Champagne. Yay. Dessert. Nay.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Cuz a one. As someone who worked in like wait staff, it's annoying. It's very annoying for us to have to like, go back and asking all these questions. The food doesn't have time. They don't have time to prep it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Leave them alone.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So nay for in the food champagne. I can drop it in. Go.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What do you think? Yay or no?

[A]

I don't want to be proposed to at a fast chain. I don't want to. Sorry. Would you rather get dumped at a Cheesecake Factory or have your parents tell you they're getting divorced at an Outback Steakhouse?

[B]

Divorce at the steakhouse. Because I feel like that Bloomin Onion is going to be. It's going to make you feel so much better.

[A]

I was not impressed by that. Bloomin Onion. Onion.

[B]

Where? Oh, my God.

[A]

Yeah, I wasn't impressed by them.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

I. I'm like. I'm like, it's fine. It's onion rings. Like, okay, y'. All. I never had onion rings before.

[B]

I. But as a kid, did not like onion rings because I didn't like onions because I was a child. I'm an adult now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And so I had Outback.

[A]

We didn't know you were an adult now.

[B]

And if you didn't know. For those not watching, I had it as an adult and I loved it. But I don't think I ever considered that. Oh, it's just.

[A]

It's quite literally.

[B]

It's pretty, it's fun.

[A]

Sure. I had it for the first time as an adult. To be fair.

[B]

Same. I mean, I say college, so. College.

[A]

Yeah. I was just post college the first time I had it. I was on a date. Why? Anyways, you know what is really underrated? I'll get back to the game. What is the name of that damn Italian restaurant?

[B]

Olive Garden.

[A]

Yep. I.

[B]

Hey, people like to on Olive Garden and it's great. Bottomless soup and salad.

[A]

Are you breadsticks those? I'll go in there and just order the breadsticks. I'm like, I don't care about the rest of this.

[B]

They also have really good drinks. It's crazy. They. Yeah, like, Olive Garden is pretty. They have the three. Like, you can have the tour of Italy where it's like a par. Chicken parmesan lasagna and like a linguini. You get like.

[A]

It's so good.

[B]

Olive Garden is great. Stop shitting on Olive Garden.

[A]

This is why people hate America.

[B]

Oh, right.

[A]

Cuz that's crazy. Okay. Smash, Marry, kill, Red Lobster, Cheddar Bay biscuits, Chili's Triple Dipper Meal. I think that's chicken.

[B]

Is it? I don't think I know what that Is. Let me look it up.

[A]

Oh, you know what? Yeah, you look it up. You know me. What it is. And then outbacks, blooming onion.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh. The triple dipper is the platter. The appetizer platter, which we've already talked about.

[A]

Oh, okay.

[B]

So we know. Okay, well. And it's.

[A]

Okay, so that's miracle. Yeah. Cheddar bay biscuits, triple dipper, blooming onion.

[B]

Oh, well, okay. This. I think it's pretty simple for me.

[A]

Okay. Go for it.

[B]

So my Mary is that triple dipper, because that way I'm having it every night. It's always coming home to it. And now I get everything. I'm that cheddar biscuit because it's so good.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's a little dry, but that's all right. Yeah, we'll get there.

[A]

Yeah, we'll work with it. Yeah.

[B]

And I'm killing that blooming onion. While I do like it. It has nothing on those biscuits.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

That sampler.

[A]

I'm trying to look to see what's.

[B]

In the triple dipper burger, the bean, the egg rolls, and then the chicken dip or chicken tenders.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Yes. Okay. Egg rolls, burger, chicken tenders. Okay. This one's hard for me, actually.

[B]

Is it? It's also the boneless wings, which we can debate on. I obviously love.

[A]

I like a boneless wing, but when I want a wing, I want a wing. When I want a nuggie, I want a nuggie, and I. And there's the time and place. When I order from Wingstop, I usually do half and half. Oh, I usually do half bone and half boneless.

[B]

She's versatile. Yeah.

[A]

She's versed, you know? You knew that. That sounded crazy. I don't know how you would know that.

[B]

I wouldn't.

[A]

Yeah, you actually wouldn't know that. Okay, this is hard. Cheddar bay biscuits, triple dipper, blooming onion. I think I'm gonna kill the blooming onion. Okay. I'll the cheddar bay biscuit, only because I don't like cheese. So the way that I've eaten that biscuit and. Stay with me. I know I'm about to lose some people. The way that I've eaten that biscuit is to break little bits off of it and work around the cheese portions. Like, there's, like, usually little segments of cheese throughout the biscuit, but not all the way mixed in.

[B]

That is.

[A]

And so I will just eat around the little segments of cheese. Similarly, I love mozzarella sticks. I don't like cheese. I pull the mozzarella out of the mozzarella stick. I. And I just eat the breading with the marinara sauce. It's delicious.

[B]

That is a order red flag.

[A]

It's delicious.

[B]

So you're talking about not paying. That's why they don't pay.

[A]

I mean, I ordered my. I don't ask them to pull it out. I pull it out myself.

[B]

What I'm saying is, if I was on a date and you did that, I wouldn't pay either.

[A]

I think that's a green flag because we're super compatible. You can have my cheese. I pulled the cheese out. You can have the cheese. You do. Most everybody does. You can have my cheese, and I will have my breading. My seasoned delicious breading in that delicious marinara sauce. Or I'll put ranch. Or I'll put ranch inside of the breading. Breading. And I'll.

[B]

Are you a ranch on mozzarella? Six girly.

[A]

Yeah, I just said I put ranch in the. In the breading of the mozzarella stick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm marinara or ranch. I'll slip back and forth between them.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then I will marry the triple dipper because.

[B]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, I like the variety.

[A]

Exactly. Okay. You can only eat one for the rest of your life. Texas Roadhouse, Olive Garden, Chili's, or Red Rose Robin.

[B]

Wow. I. Red Robin's fries are good, but that's. They're not that good.

[A]

And they only have b. Do they have stuff other than burgers?

[B]

They do. I mean, they like. It's like. It's Applebee, so they have other things, but they are known for.

[A]

For their burgers. Yeah.

[B]

It's like. Like a. 50 different burgers. Got you of these. I'm definitely going Olive Garden. I think that there's just, like. They have, like, so many different types of pasta. I think pasta is the most versatile of all of these things.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I think Chili's and Red Robin would get on my nerves. I love a burger, but not all the time.

[A]

That's fair. I think I'm gonna go with Chili's because I think Chili's has pasta on the menu, but they also have a bunch of other stuff. I think I could do chicken. I could do a burger. I could do, you know, a pasta. I could probably do a soup. It's probably a lot of stuff at Chili's. So I would probably go Chili's. And then to finish out, rate the following chain restaurants, 1 through 5, you can give a little. A little, you know, reason Joe's, Crab Shack, have you ever had it?

[B]

I know what it is. Haven't had it.

[A]

Okay. If you had to think about. It's crap.

[B]

It's crap.

[A]

Yeah. You busting crab open? Yeah. With butter.

[B]

Busting open.

[A]

Yeah. Bust it with butter and garlic and such. Okay.

[B]

Oh, I'm rating in one to five.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm gonna give it a. A two. I just feel like mass produced crab. I don't. I don't. I feel like they gotta keep it going. You think you're better than me? I do.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

What are you rating it?

[A]

Four and a half. Oh, Longhorn Steakhouse. I don't think I've ever had. Got this.

[B]

We have them. This was fancy to me as a kid. I'm not. I don't mind a steak, but I don't love a steakhouse. I'd rather cook it myself. So I'm gonna give it a three. It's.

[A]

I'll give it a three as well. Texas Roadhouse.

[B]

Same. Same. Middle of the road. Honestly, 2.5. I think it's less.

[A]

Texas toast come from Texas Roadhouse.

[B]

I think Texas toast is a thing in general.

[A]

Oh, it doesn't.

[B]

But they do have it there. Now what Texas Roadhouse does have is like a honey butter that they put on it. And that is good. But it's just like. It almost is like butter.

[A]

I'm almost never get the sweet sauce. I'm like.

[B]

But it's like they come with it. Like their honey just happens to be there. So in the honey butter. I'm gonna bump it up 3.5.

[A]

Okay. Okay. Texas Roadhouse. That's where the blooming onion is.

[B]

No, that's long.

[A]

Or that's a Outback Steakhouse Roadhouse. I don't know. Whatever. I don't know. I don't know. I never had Texas Olive Garden. I'll give it a three and a half or four.

[B]

Five for me.

[A]

Okay. That's a strong five. That's a strong five. Chili's.

[B]

I'm gonna give it a 4.5.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Chili is so fun. I feel like Chili's is like. Everybody can go. You can bring your mom. You can take your kids. It can be a date.

[A]

I did go for my mom's birthday recently.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. It is a perfect. It is the perfect place.

[A]

Okay. I'll give Chili's a three. Very middle of the road Outback.

[B]

I. I think a one. I think it is mostly.

[A]

Oh, you hate out there.

[B]

I'll back. It's just vibes. It's like in vibes. And if I'm gonna have vibes, I won't Rainforest Cafe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I'm sad that Rainforest Cafe isn't on this list.

[A]

Okay, well, Rainforest Cafe is seven.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

TGI Fridays.

[B]

I'd say a 4.5. Like, it's fine.

[A]

It's like BJ's five. Yeah.

[B]

Big five.

[A]

Number one.

[B]

God.

[A]

Dave and Busters. One. Hate Dave and Busters. Hate Dave and Busters. Wow. Where you at with it?

[B]

I think like a two, but I think. I think of Dave and Busters as a location more than a restaurant.

[A]

I didn't even know that have food.

[B]

Exactly. Exactly. When I go to Dave and Busters, it's not to eat. It is to do things.

[A]

But I do hate the place.

[B]

I mean, also. Yeah.

[A]

And then Red Robin.

[B]

Yum. I quit. They wouldn't let me quit, so I just kind of. I call it no call, no showed and got fired. And so for that, it's a one. But by that time, I was like.

[A]

Yeah, you had a job.

[B]

Yeah. So I didn't care. But technically I was fired from Red Robin. And so for that, I'm giving them a one.

[A]

Okay. And that's it. I think that's all we got for the show today. If you want to reach us on YouTube, you can go to YouTube.com black people love Hairmore. The link will be in the show notes. If you want to become a Max Fun member, that should be in the show notes too. If you want to email, you can email at Black people love paramore gmail.com. i really appreciate when y' all email. It's very fun. Y' all really liked when we did that fan mail episode. Oh, you can send that at any point. Like you can if you have fan mail that you want me to read aloud on the show and for us to respond to. You can send that at literally any point. Point.

[B]

What is. Do we know what our next topic is yet? I don't know if we do, cuz I'm going say maybe send them.

[A]

It is Lizzie McGuire.

[B]

If you have questions about Lizzie McGuire, I want to say send them in. I think I know that is for sure.

[A]

One. Yeah. It's coming up soon. If not next, it's coming up soon.

[B]

So get some Liz McGuire questions down the B. Yeah.

[A]

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[B]

This is crazy.

[A]

Yeah. No, she got a dumpiana.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

She's a stallion. She dragging. She's dragging that wagon. I'm trying to tell you. My Little Pony. Yeah. Wow. And then, obviously, you can find us across all social media platforms at bplp. Pod.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's it. Bye, you guys.

[B]

Sam.