The Met Gala

Summary

Podcast Summary: Black People Love Paramore – "The Met Gala" (May 1, 2025)

Overview

In this lively, insightful, and often hilarious episode, hosts Sequoia Holmes and Ryann Graham deep-dive into the Black cultural experience and perspective on the Met Gala. They cover the significance of the 2025 theme "Super Fine: Tailoring Black Style," discuss the history of the event in pop culture, ponder the challenges non-Black attendees will face interpreting the theme, and dish on most-anticipated celebrity looks. The episode brims with personal anecdotes, pop culture trivia, sharp critiques, and playful banter, balancing affection for Black fashion influence with candid commentary on the intricacies of the Gala's social dynamics.

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Main Themes & Purpose

• Spotlighting Black Influence at the 2025 Met Gala: Exploring the significance of a theme centered on Black style and dandyism, and the broader implications for representation.
• Critiquing Pop Culture and Fashion: Navigating the joys and absurdities of being a "couch critic" during the Met Gala, while laughing at cultural moments and fashion faux pas.
• Examining Cultural Appropriation and Celebration: Unpacking the fine lines around fashion, hair, and cultural context for Black diasporic identity, especially with non-Black participants.
• Anticipation and Predictions: Who to watch this year, what moments the hosts look forward to, and a rundown of iconic (and overrated) looks.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Met Gala as a Pop Culture Phenomenon

• Accessibility and Critique from Afar
  • The hosts love participating as at-home fashion critics, "in full-on sweatpants...refreshing my Twitter timeline." (03:00)
  • Discussing how the internet and location (particularly living in LA) has made the Gala more accessible and significant.
• When Did You Start Caring?
  • "2018, 2019 is when I think I really was like, oh, people, like, care about [the Met Gala]." – Ryann (03:00)
  • Recognition that the Met has become a "household event" in recent years, especially in media circles.

2. The 2025 Theme: "Super Fine: Tailoring Black Style"

• Theme Background & Importance
  • The theme is based on a book chronicling Black diaspora fashion from slavery to modern America, including the influence of Dapper Dan and the mainstreaming of Black streetwear. (06:02–06:54)
  • Sense of pride: "I do appreciate that Black people are finally getting their flowers in this way." – Ryann (06:57)
• How Will Non-Black Attendees Approach It?
  • Real concerns about cultural sensitivity, especially in hair choices and styling:
    "Hair is where that boundary starts to creep...Zendaya [got] called out for faux locs, but if Kim Kardashian shows up with locks, she would never get that." – Ryann (08:10–08:51)
  • Discussion on cultural appropriation vs. appreciation, noting that attitudes vary between American and Caribbean perspectives. (09:07–10:52)

3. Black Leadership at the Met Gala

• Host Committee Highlights
  • For the first time, "all the chair people is Pharrell, Common Domingo, ASAP Rocky, and Lewis Hamilton." (11:21)
  • Special note that theme centers Black men’s tailoring and male fashion, a rarity at the Met since the early 2000s.

4. Anticipated Red Carpet Highlights

• Who Will 'Eat' This Year?
  • "Teyana Taylor is going to eat." (12:49)
  • "Zendaya and Law [Roach], they're going to kill it." (14:25)
  • Hoping for strong looks from Rihanna ("if she goes, that lady's pregnant"), Doja Cat, Coleman Domingo, and Janelle Monáe.
• Men in Fashion
  • Excitement to see more men step up and experiment due to the tailored theme.

5. Moments & Fashion Critiques

• Memorable/Infamous Moments
  • The infamous (possibly fake) Jason Derulo falling down the stairs meme. (13:34–14:16)
• Iconic and Overrated Looks
  • Rihanna’s iconic yellow “pizza” dress: Divides the hosts—Sequoia dislikes it, Ryann loves it. (25:03–25:34, 56:35)
  • Zendaya’s Joan of Arc look: Praised for theme adherence, even if not her best.
  • Solange’s best Met Gala contribution: “...the best thing [Solange] has ever given us to the Met is when she got into that fight [in the elevator].” (27:12)
  • Kim Kardashian’s Marilyn Monroe dress (2022): Sequoia praises the look and cohesion; both hosts defend her right to wear it, rejecting the outrage. (54:11–55:42)
• Consistently ‘Nothing’ Award
  • Kendall Jenner is described as “the queen of nothing,” with no memorable looks despite constant attendance. (60:36–62:24)

6. Cultural, Economic, and Social Commentary

• The Economics of Attending
  • It costs "$70,000 per plate...$340,000 for a table," but celebrities are mostly “sent” by brands and designers. Still, "Anna [Wintour] can go, ‘no thanks.’ She has to approve." (18:44–20:21)
• Anna Wintour's Astrological Sign & Aura
  • Lighthearted speculation about what makes Anna Wintour tick: "[She is] a Scorpio...which honestly kind of also makes sense—there’s a bite to that." – Ryann (21:34–21:41)
• The Power and Pressure for Up-and-Coming Attendees
  • Noting how new invitees and influencers may struggle with pressure and styling: "If somebody invited me to the Met right now, I wouldn’t know where to start…" (53:07–53:36)
  • “It’s very Hunger Games Capitol.” (53:59)

7. Black Designers & Influencers

• Hopes for More Diversity
  • "I also hope we see more Black designers," with mentions of Hanifa and Martine Rose. (34:49–35:02)
• Influencers on the Rise
  • Dreaming of TikToker Any Given Sunday ("eni") making an appearance, and an open discussion of how influencers are reshaping celebrity and red carpet culture. (31:12–32:33)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Being an At-Home Critic:
  “My favorite thing is being a consumer who is very much not fashion forward and sitting back and critiquing these extremely ornate pieces of art. That's my favorite thing.” – Sequoia, 01:53

• On Non-Black Attendees and the Theme:
  "I am curious to see how white people are going to do this theme." – Ryann, 07:03

• On Cultural Boundaries:
  “Hair is where that boundary starts to creep…if Kim Kardashian shows up with locks…she would never get that [criticism].” – Ryann, 08:18–08:51

• On Anna Wintour’s Control:
  “Even if you spend $340,000, you still have to send your guest list in. And Anna Wintour can go, 'no, thanks.' She has to approve.” – Ryann, 20:10

• On Rihanna’s Yellow Dress:
  “Mine definitely is Rihanna’s yellow dress. That is to me easily the most overrated look.” – Sequoia, 56:36

• On Teyana Taylor:
  “Teyana Taylor is going to eat.” – Ryann, 12:49

• On Who Consistently Gives "Nothing":
  “Well, I think the queen of nothing is Kendall Jenner...I think Kendall Jenner, where we were asking earlier. No, it's American fashion. Was that year, but okay. I think there's. Yeah. Big is bad.” – Ryann, 60:36–61:04

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Timestamps of Important Segments

• Opening & Met Gala as Event: 00:19–03:38
• Theme Deep Dive + Cultural Significance: 06:02–07:01
• Cultural Appropriation vs. Appreciation: 07:52–10:52
• Black Committee and History: 11:18
• Anticipated Looks and Favorites: 12:49–15:41
• Red Carpet Iconics and Overrated Looks: 24:17–25:34; 54:11–55:42; 56:35–57:13
• Economics of Attending & Anna’s Approval: 18:44–20:21
• Influencers as the New Celebrities: 31:12–32:33
• Consistently ‘Nothing’ (Kendall Jenner): 60:36–62:24

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Structure and Flow

The episode moves fluidly from playful banter to deeper cultural critique, balancing humor ("the queen of nothing is Kendall Jenner") with considered insights on Black representation. The hosts reference personal experiences, pop culture history, social media phenomena, and fashion world oddities—making this episode both entertaining and deeply informative for those interested in Black culture, fashion, and contemporary media.

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For More

• Host Sequoia Holmes: @bplppod and @sequoiabholmes
• Host Ryann Graham: @goodguyry

Tune in on May 5 to see if their fashion predictions come true—and join them as they judge next year’s looks from the comfort of their own timelines!

Transcript

[A]

Welcome to Black People Love Paramore podcast. Not about the band Paramore, but about the common and uncommon interests of black people in order to help us feel safe. Morsine, I am your co host, Sequoia.

[B]

And I am your co host Ryan.

[A]

And today we're talking about the Met Gala. But before we get into talking about the Met Gala, if you could take a second to rate and review this podcast on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you're watching this on YouTube, go ahead and drop a comment, hit the like button, subscribe all that good stuff. And if you want to buy merch, we have several merch options down in the description box. Yeah, we have some Mocha Grande merch. So if you are black and you identify as a Mocha Grande, hey, find something, some good little goodies down there.

[B]

You identify as black and be a grande and still get what if you identify like, can Rachel Dole get a mocha?

[A]

She should listen. If she want to pay me, I'll take reparations. I'll take reparations. She can buy the shirt if she would like to like it or if you are a five star, like, I hope we are.

[B]

Yeah. Oh my God. Just like your reviews should also be five star. You know what I mean?

[A]

Like, if you want to rate and review the five stars, that'll be great. But if you are also a five star and you want to wear it on your body, we have shirts that fade, say five star. And also a pin that says five star. Yes.

[B]

Yeah, I've not seen this pin yet. I've seen the shirt. I have not seen the pin. So I have to look at the pins. That's me. That's a gandy.

[A]

Take a gandy at the pin. But yeah, that's about it. Now we talk about the Met Gala. You know what my favorite thing is?

[B]

That it's the first Monday of May. I don't know why, but I didn't know that.

[A]

It's always.

[B]

Yeah, that's, that's, that's it. It's May. May.

[A]

My favorite thing is being a consumer who is very much not fashion forward and sitting back and critiquing, right? These extremely ornate, ornate pieces of art, you know, created by these real fashion people. That's my favorite thing.

[B]

Literally, like full on sweatpants. Like watching on YouTube, like, not even affording like cable to have like, like E. News isn't on. I'm watching in the YouTube live.

[A]

Right. I'm not paying for that.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I'm not watching it on Twitter. I'm Waiting. I'm refreshing my Twitter timeline and I'm like, couldn't. I would never wear that. Would never wear that.

[B]

But you know what? I. We. We are many a community. Many a person does the exact same thing every first Monday. So, yeah, it's become a rite of passage.

[A]

100.

[B]

And it's funny because I feel like the Met Gala has been a thing for quite a while. I'm pretty sure Anna Wintour took it over in, like, 99, which is what kind of made it the modern man. Right.

[A]

It's always been a fun. Okay, okay.

[B]

But I feel like I don't remember it being a thing.

[A]

Yeah. I.

[B]

The Internet. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I'm like, we were in. I don't even think it was, like, 2016. I think we were like, that's fair. It's like, 2018. 2019 is when I think I really was like, oh, people, like, care about.

[A]

Yeah. Or is that just when we got deep enough into living in Los Angeles that we realize that people care about the man?

[B]

In the comments, please tell me if, like, if you do not live in la.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Do you care about the Met very much? Everyone does.

[A]

You know what? You know what? That may be fair. I do think maybe everyone does. But I'm assuming we're much closer in proximity to people who care. And so people, like, who have been in LA for longer than us probably cared before us.

[B]

Got you.

[A]

And probably assumed that more people cared than do.

[B]

That makes sense.

[A]

Than did.

[B]

Like, it is now more mainstream just because, like, the way the Internet works. But, like, people in this space were always like, oh, it's Met Gala.

[A]

So whereas you say 2019, somebody else might be, like, 2015.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, no, I've been, like, paying attention, you know, so maybe that's it. Maybe that's one of the options.

[B]

Love this.

[A]

It's a household event. Watching the Met Gala carpet has definitely become a household event. We're getting closer and closer every year.

[B]

We're getting closer as in, like, we're. We're. Because you're right. We've been in LA long enough and have, like, met people to where we're starting to know people who are, like, tangentially or directly.

[A]

Right. Like, going. I knew two people that went, yeah, like, two years ago. And, like, I've known, like, at least one person that has gone, like, you know, I think, like, tangentially. I think you can name me. Yes, Eugene did.

[B]

Okay. Yeah. So I do know, like, directly. That's not tangential. We directly know.

[A]

Yes. But I mean, with Eugene. Maybe like, two, three years ago.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And I think within the year since then, I've known, like, one person tangentially who has gone. I'm like, oh, yeah, wow. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Maybe one day we'll not. Maybe we'll be on the carpet talking instead of. I mean, I want to be on the carpet. Dress for the Met, not.

[B]

And still talking.

[A]

Not on the sidelines.

[B]

I wouldn't talk, actually.

[A]

I probably talk when I got inside.

[B]

Yeah. Like, when the drinks are flowing. Oh, my God, thank you.

[A]

When you thought that was cute.

[B]

I do think it would be fun to go.

[A]

I really. I want to go. Yeah.

[B]

Because just to see what happened. Like, Ariana Grande performed last year. Honestly, for that alone. Like, who?

[A]

The gods?

[B]

She sure did.

[A]

That's what she performed last year.

[B]

And Dot dot, Dot has not performed, like, really anywhere else.

[A]

She hasn't, has she?

[B]

No. I think by now she's. No, actually, I don't know.

[A]

No, I mean, she performed at the Oscars.

[B]

Sorry, I don't. No shade to wicked. Love wicked.

[A]

Obviously that's not what you mean, but.

[B]

I mean, like, I'm talking about Eternal Sunshine, Ari. And we have not got, like.

[A]

Do you think we're getting a tour?

[B]

No, allegedly. There's an album coming out, another one, a new era, so I think we are past Eternal Sunshine. I think the deluxe is all we're getting in.

[A]

I don't like how quickly artists are starting to turn around music like that.

[B]

I agree, but I think it's just the nature of the Internet.

[A]

Dislike. I'm, like, kind of anti.

[B]

Anyways, you know, who's not turning out music, and because that is doing.

[A]

Because here she is doing the Met Gala and popping out babies. Popping that pussy. Put it away. Use your butt.

[B]

It's so real.

[A]

The particular theme of this Met.

[B]

Oh, the theme this year is super fly. Super fine.

[A]

Oh, found it. Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Tailoring Black Style is slaves to fashion, Black dandyism and the styling of black diasporic identity, which I. I like as a theme. Oh, that's the book.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That it's based on.

[B]

The theme is super fine.

[A]

Tailoring Black Style. What you literally just said.

[B]

Right. Which is fine.

[A]

That's fine.

[B]

But yes, it is based on a book.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Like, about, like, basically black diaspora fashion from slavery all the way to modern America. So it's like, it's gonna go through, like, the 80s, like, the dapper Danz of it, like, in how they. Cause, like, you remember, like, that was, like, in the 80s and 90s, a lot of black Designers were pushed out of high fashion and so then they would like take it and like, you know those monogram LV everywhere that got popularized by like the Dapper danz of the 80s. And it's crazy because now this shit is high fashion.

[A]

It's high fashion. It's everywh and interesting.

[B]

I do appreciate that black people are finally getting their. Their flowers in this way.

[A]

Yes, I do.

[B]

I am curious as to how white people are going to do this theme, like the, the culture.

[A]

You know what? I hadn't thought about this. Whoa.

[B]

Cuz the Kardashians are certainly going to be there. And I'm.

[A]

The way you say Kardashian always makes me laugh.

[B]

How do you. How do I say it?

[A]

You always say Kardashians, Kurt.

[B]

Like, I say, like this. So I'm from Missouri and the Missouri. I mean.

[A]

Kardashians.

[B]

Kardashians. The Kardashians.

[A]

The Kardashians.

[B]

The Kardashians.

[A]

The Kardashians. The Kard. The Kardashians. Yeah, I am. I mean, they've been doing it their whole.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Life. So I'm sure they're well versed in dandyism in black fashion.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Yeah. So they probably just going to show up.

[B]

It's just like, yeah, I'm here. Hi.

[A]

They normal stylist. They not getting a new stylist for this. They said, yeah, come on. You do what you always been doing.

[B]

You know what? I kind of want lean in. I want bantu knots. I want. I want faux locks.

[A]

Really?

[B]

No, I don't.

[A]

Well, what if. What? I mean, but why not? Have you not heard people say that fashion is outside of appropriation, that fashion is an art form that exists outside of that type of thing. Everything in fashion is appreciation is what I've heard a lot of fashion people say.

[B]

And I hear that and I receive that. I do think that there are boundaries to all of that.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

And I imagine that hair is where that boundary starts to creep. Like, I think there are certain things that can kind of blur and bend.

[A]

But.

[B]

But I just think that there's still. Especially when we live in a society where people are. Perfect example. Zendaya, what year I can't. When she had the locks. And then Julian Jillian Rancic was like, it smells like weed. Like, I think that is a good example of like, where hair.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Can be used against you in a way that if. If Kim Kardashian shows up with locks.

[A]

She would never get that. Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

So I do think the hair is Where I would draw that.

[A]

Where you draw that fashion line.

[B]

But I agree that, like, clothing, because I do think, especially in the Internet era.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then also just the way you kind of have to mix and match things that I do think it is a little bit more bendable, a little.

[A]

Bit of a saber, a safer space to do that. Okay. Two things about cultural appropriation. One, remember a few years ago when Adele had on, like, that Jamaica bikini? I think it was a bikin with the Jamaican flag.

[B]

She did have the bantu knots.

[A]

She had bantu knots. And I saw like, a man on the street video of people asking Jamaican people, like, how they felt about it. And they were just like, oh, that's so cool. Like, they all were like, oh, wow, that's so cool. I actually really like, wow. Yeah, this is so cool. And I thought that that was an interesting response. 1. And then it also reminded me. Oh, when one dance came out by Drake, a controller, and lots of people were like, oh, this is appropriation. And then it was like the biggest songs in the Caribbean. Okay. You know, so I'm like, is this an American thing? I'm wondering, like, is Is issues with appropriation? Because again, as an American who feels away about people appropriating my black American culture, I'm wondering if that is a uniquely American thing and if other places are like, da, da, da.

[B]

But I think I might take it one step further in that, like, it is an American thing, but I think specifically an African American thing, because I.

[A]

Do think that's fair putting.

[B]

So if you are like, specifically, I'll use Jamaican culture as an example that is different than African American culture. And I do think it is. I don't want to say putting it on the map, but you were like, oh, bringing the world to a specific thing in a way where I feel like African American culture is not. It's already mainstream in a way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That I think it feels like you were stealing from us and we get in trouble for this. Whereas I'm like. Like, a Jamaican flag is just like, oh, this is pride.

[A]

That's very.

[B]

And so you're just being like, oh, yeah, that's different than.

[A]

That's super.

[B]

But I feel you. I do. That is a curious or an interesting point because.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe it is. I don't know. We're a little off topic.

[A]

But anyways, yeah. I am interested to see how white, non black people are going to handle this thing.

[B]

Right. Because most. I'm. Well, yeah, I would say most of the people who attend the Met Yeah. Are not black.

[A]

No, no. Now this time, there's a lot of black people at the head of it.

[B]

Not even a lot.

[A]

All for the first time.

[B]

Everyone other than Anna Wintour, obviously, but.

[A]

All the chairman chair people is Pharrell Common, Domingo, asap.

[B]

Rocky.

[A]

Asap, Rocky. And Lewis Hamilton, who.

[B]

I mean, he is certainly black. I think he's. He's got to be biracial.

[A]

I think he's. Yeah, I think he's. That's what I mean.

[B]

I was like. When I said I was like, everyone's black. And I'm like. It made me pause.

[A]

I got it.

[B]

I gotta get it.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

And also, very well dressed men.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

This is also. So this theme specifically looks at, like, tailoring and it's like, through the lens of, like, male fashion. And this is the first time male fashion has been focused since I think 2002 or 3. So this is another, like, it's like.

[A]

That's an interesting point way because I always feel like the men show up in like the most boring, basic shit. And this is your fudgeing. Time to turn that bitch up. Okay. And I'm excited to see the girlies show up in men's fashion and like, how they're going to do it.

[B]

Oh, you know what's. There's this interesting thing that's been going on in fashion in general. Like, all the people who've been doing women. I mean, specifically a lot of women who have been doing press or like the junk kids, they've all been in suits lately. Have you noticed that there's been so many suits? Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Are we having a suit resurgence?

[B]

We really are. I just feel like there's been a lot of suiting in women's fashion lately. And so I am. I am excited for that to, like, show up here. I think we're in a very androgynous era.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, we'll get to like, who. Who are excited for this year because there's one person I have in mind.

[A]

Okay, tell us now. Oh, yeah.

[B]

Siana Taylor is going to eat.

[A]

Oh, my God. I haven't even thought about the fact.

[B]

That she's going to devour from.

[A]

This is made for her. I agree. Wow.

[B]

I now I'm assuming Rihanna will also kill this if she goes that lady pregnant. I agree.

[A]

I don't know. I don't know if she going to. If that prevents her from going or.

[B]

Maybe this is the reveal. It doesn't prevent her from going. Certainly not. She's done it pregnant, but.

[A]

Oh, she has done it pregnant before.

[B]

I think with the first baby who's rza, I think is the baby. Yeah, she. She's done it with him. But yes, I think Teyana Taylor specifically has a very cool, edgy style that will, like, devour this also. This is just very born out of, like a Harlem esthetic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think she will be unmatched easily. She's gonna be one of the best dressed people, like, by far.

[A]

Right now. I wonder if we get any moments like Jason Derulo falling down the stairs in 2015. That was a really crazy moment because I see fully upside down.

[B]

I. Every time I see this photo on the Internet, I thought it was a joke.

[A]

I thought it was Photoshop.

[B]

I did too.

[A]

Wait, is it.

[B]

I don't think that is.

[A]

I don't think so. I've seen it so often, so many times. I've seen it so well.

[B]

I. Is there, like, video footage of this? I don't. You're right.

[A]

I actually, you know, they don't be taking video at the Met like that.

[B]

Oh, I guess you're right. I don't know why he's. Maybe he was doing a dance. Maybe he was like mid dance and fell. I don't know the backstory behind this.

[A]

That seems plausible. That feels very plausible to me, Jason. And it's all the security around him trying to catch him and him literally being fully upside down. And what would they do?

[B]

Like, I feel like Jason Deo's got to be 6:3. I'm not catching this big ass man.

[A]

This big.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Who are you most excited to see? Tiana.

[B]

I think Tiana will do well. Zendaya and Law are gonna do. They're gonna kill it. I am curious. I mean, Anna is usually boring or not boring. She's just very fashion and it's like, it is not safe. It's simple fashion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I'm curious as to what she'll do with this theme. I don't think I've ever seen her in a suit. And I wonder if she will switch. She's good for a dress, and I'm curious if she will, like, lean in and do like some. Some fashion or suiting. Because the theme for the. The. Sorry, the dress code is tailored for you.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which is a little different. So hopefully things are fitting well.

[A]

I really do hope that the girls.

[B]

Who are you excited for?

[A]

Huh? I think I'm excited for Doja Cat. Assuming she's invited this year. I don't know. That's what I'm saying.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Assuming she's invited this year. I'm excited for her. I did like her look last year. I think that was last year, right? Yeah. Her 20, 24. Look where she showed up in that wet T shirt.

[B]

Oh, yeah. She was good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It took me a minute to. For it to really hit for me. I didn't like it immediately.

[A]

I remember you not liking it. Yeah.

[B]

But then once I like. Because she's like. So last year's theme was the garden of time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's. It's like very much giving sculptures like the Venus de Milo, like. And I'm like, the art of it all. I do love. So I was like, all right, you are. You are.

[A]

You are actually an art boy. I'm literally just like, do I visually like it or not? That's my general take on it.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

I'm trying to think, is there anybody I'm excited about? Coleman Domingo. Of course.

[B]

I agree. Are we all, I think four chairmen, Cuz even Louie. Or is it Louie or Louis?

[A]

Louis. But I. I jokingly call him Louie.

[B]

But he's French, so I assume, dude, Louie. Is he. Is he French? Did I make that up?

[A]

I think he made that up.

[B]

I don't think that's true. Look, Google that. He's British, so I'm close.

[A]

Yeah, he's British.

[B]

Britain and France are like sisters. They're cousins.

[A]

I don't think they're.

[B]

They are. They are neighbors. They are.

[A]

They are neighbors, certainly.

[B]

And so they are neighbors.

[A]

I was going to say I'm excited for little Nas X. Did you know that he's in the hospital?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

You did. Oh.

[B]

No, I don't. I'm not a bunch of buttons.

[A]

I don't know sound, but whatever. I don't think. Oh, that's just audio.

[B]

Anyways, I. Yeah, sorry. I know he's in the hospital. I'm not. I know something is wrong with me. When I saw it, I thought he was being funny and I hate that. That my first thought was like, oh.

[A]

This is a bit. Oh, my God.

[B]

Is it not a bit. I'm not sure.

[A]

I don't want to say that. It's not. I don't want to say it's not. I don't think. I hope he's fine.

[B]

All of the above. I. I hope he's fine. Young man as well.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I do assumed he was joking.

[A]

Right. Obviously I'm excited to see all the main girls. Obviously. Rihanna obviously is.

[B]

Sure, sure.

[A]

Now card is kept. You know, I don't like these people, but I Am excited to see Kim. Oh, I'm excited to see Kim. She usually be doing. She be doing looks for me on. Yeah, this is her only job. Her only job. And she does that one. This.

[B]

And selling Teslas is her job. Oh, God.

[A]

Her. From that Tesla robot.

[B]

You know, I. I'm also. I'm excited to see if Ariana and Cynthia Erivo are still on this wicked press tour. Like, I wonder, because, you know, the second one's coming out.

[A]

I'm so tired. But I think that they're gonna be like. I really do think that they're. I genuinely also think that they're gonna still be on the pressure. But I did see the. Cynthia has an album coming out soon, correct?

[B]

I did. I saw the COVID It looks like it's from 2012. I'm not wrong.

[A]

And it does sound like it too, because I heard a little recession. I heard a little. It's not even pop. It's like pure R B. Oh, okay. Sounding to me, at least from the snippet that I heard. And it just was, you know, it was like, yeah, she's a great voice. You know, you have a great. You have a great voice.

[B]

I believe that.

[A]

Yeah. So I don't know, because she has an album coming out, it maybe gives me hope that they're gonna lay the wicked thing for a second. Lay it down for a second. Just a second.

[B]

That's fair.

[A]

Because the second one doesn't even have a date. I mean, does. Yes, it does. It's Thanksgiving, isn't it? Or something.

[B]

Well, yeah, I. I think we can give it a beat.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And do something else. But I. They have been attached at the hip and like, hey, I get it. That Oscar. They are coming for that Oscar. So I think they're trying. The campaign hasn't stopped. And not that they don't deserve. I believe they're great.

[A]

Girl. That Eternal Short Sunshine short film was her coming for an Oscar too.

[B]

And I don't know why they said that.

[A]

They say, I think somebody lied. Somebody.

[B]

I believe Ariana Grande will get an Oscar. It will not be for that 100, right.

[A]

Definitely wouldn't be for that. Oh, and she knew that.

[B]

I. I guess, like, also, speaking of the Met, I. We were talking about this a little bit before. It is a fundraiser every year for, like, the fashion exhibits in the Met Gallery. Did you know that? So obviously you have to pay for a plate. It is $70,000 per plate, period. A table, I believe, is like $340,000. So any. All these people, they're Paying to be there. What? Yes. Oh, my God. It's very expensive to be there. What that said. So obviously celebrities are probably not paying because, like, designers aren't sending them.

[A]

Yeah. And you're like, do you want to go? Yes.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

I remember a few years ago, like, we were mentioning a couple people that we know. Jackie Aina, Eugene Lang, the YouTube bike.

[B]

Like, is that Eugene's last name? Yi Lang? I believe so. Yang. Wow.

[A]

Eugene Yang. Yeah. YouTube invited them. Yeah, I'm like, YouTube got that type of money? Yes.

[B]

Google.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yes, girl.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's Google.

[A]

Yeah, that makes sense for sure. But yeah, like, also brands can send people.

[B]

They do.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And oftentimes you'll see like, celebrities walking with the designer who is dressing them. And that's like, like Loewe, for instance, will have a table and then they'll be like, here's all the people who are coming with us. So often you'll see like, them walking in groups or like they come in at the same time because they are with the designer.

[A]

Got it.

[B]

But the other fun fact about that is, even if you spend 340, 000, you still have to send your guest list in. And Anna Wintour can go, no, thanks. She has to approve.

[A]

And, you know, Anna gives picky to me.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

What the. Is Anna's astrological sign? Let me see.

[B]

Oh, wait, can we guess? Yeah, you're gonna know.

[A]

I'm gonna let me guess before.

[B]

My heart wants to say Virgo, but I feel like it's too on the nose.

[A]

Virgo. I would. Okay. I would guess Taurus as a secondary option. I'm gonna say Sagittarius is, like, known for their aesthetics, and they're also known for, like, being stubborn. So it's like that kind of gives like. And they're also known for, like, being comfortable. So if you like.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Yeah, like, that's like horsey.

[B]

You're describing Anna Winter. She is very much obviously visual, and she's like. Because part of why she wears those sunglasses is because she never wants people to see. See her sweat. So she's like. It's like a shield. Yeah, literally, we'll say that.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. And then she's not a Gemini. That doesn't make sense. Cancer doesn't make sense for her. Leo, perhaps. Now Leo. Leo makes some sense.

[B]

I could see that.

[A]

So we got. We got a pin in Taurus. We got a pin in Leo.

[B]

I'm gonna say Sagittarius.

[A]

I'm gonna throw Sagittarius. Leo is an option. Not a Libra. Okay, I'm gonna go with Taurus or Libra or Leo.

[B]

I'm gonna say Sagittarius just because I feel like the Devil Wears Prada is loosely, allegedly based on her. And that kind of chaotic energy. What is it?

[A]

We're so wrong.

[B]

Oh, my God. Is it an emotional water sign?

[A]

It's a water sign.

[B]

Tell me. I don't know.

[A]

It's Scorpio.

[B]

Whoa. Honestly, kind of also makes sense.

[A]

Kind of also makes sense, right?

[B]

Like, there's a bite to that.

[A]

Yeah. And a mystery to that, too. Let me make sure. That is Scorpio, right?

[B]

Wow. You could probably.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Okay. Come on. Scorpio Queen.

[A]

Scorpio queen. Yeah. You can never see into our eyes. Never see into our soul. Blocks that out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stay back.

[B]

At a distance.

[A]

Arms distance. You will actually know nothing about me.

[B]

So mysterious.

[A]

I actually don't know anything about Anna Wintour. Do you?

[B]

I listen to a podcast on her life. She, like, there's a. She has a very. She, like, comes. Comes from, like, a news family. Like, her dad was also a journalist.

[A]

So, like, she's a journalist.

[B]

I mean. Yes. Editor in chief of Vogue. So. Yes.

[A]

Okay. When you become editor in chief of a fashion magazine, for some reason, I didn't necessarily think that you had to be a journalist. I thought you had to be, like, fashiony, but I guess, like, you had to be like a fashion person. Like, almost like a designer. Yeah. I understand what you're saying.

[B]

Because you have to have an eye.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But they do report online.

[A]

Okay. I mean, that totally makes sense as well, that she had to be a reporter.

[B]

At some point, I would describe her as a journalist. I don't know now.

[A]

Have never called her journalism day in my life. Not saying that she isn't. It's just not how I would think describe to describe her at all.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah. Either way, entire guest list, no matter how much you paid, she can be like, no. And in fact, she often suggests, like, she's like. Because it's like, you have to have, like. I think they're like three pillars. Like, it's buzz, aesthetic. Like, you have to be buzzworthy. There's, like, aesthetic, and there's something else that you. There are, like, three things that I forget I should have. But yeah. And so, like, yeah, she'll be like, these are the people you should probably dress. And if you are wanting to continue to come to the Met Gala, you'll.

[A]

Be like, you will take my recommendations.

[B]

Also, in terms of the red carpet.

[A]

Sorry.

[B]

I guess I know a lot about the fucking metal. Yeah, they have time slots. Generally they'll be like, this is the time you were allowed to arrive. And most of the time they will arrive with their designer. And allegedly, this is like a rumor. The only two people who can arrive whenever they want, Beyonce and Rihanna.

[A]

Period, Period, period.

[B]

They are allowed to. Whenever they are ready to come, they come. Because Rihanna was supposed to go last year and last minute was like, sorry.

[A]

I can't make it. Sorry, I'm sick. Wow. Imagine telling Anna Wintour you cannot make.

[B]

It and still being invited.

[A]

Right? And I'd be like, okay, we'll see you next year, hon. Don't worry. Okay. Some of the looks.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Some of the good looks. So we have Zendaya's 2018 Versace look. Her Joan of Arc look. So she has kind of like armor. Like metal armor on. And a red with bangs. Yes, A ass bob with short red bangs as well.

[B]

I like it. I'm trying to remember the theme that was like, godly. Was that like.

[A]

I don't know what that theme is.

[B]

I believe it was like Heavenly Bodies. Oh, that was like that.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

And so again, do I think this is the best Zendaya has ever looked? No, I think she aced the assignment. And I think for what it was, it is a very good look. And also, look, I say that, like, Zendaya is never going to look bad. So, like, like, even Zendaya.

[A]

Even Zendaya's bad looks are, like, better than most people's good looks. Absolutely, yeah. So, like, yes, bad in comparison to herself.

[B]

But I like it. I like the structure. And I think theme wise. Correct. Aced.

[A]

Yeah. Not mad at that at all. And then we have the Queen of the Met, Rihanna.

[B]

God, yeah.

[A]

Herself. She has the obvious iconic yellow pizza.

[B]

Okay, don't call it a pizza.

[A]

I don't like this look.

[B]

I know. I love it.

[A]

A lot of people love this one.

[B]

It's so silly in the best way.

[A]

This, like, doesn't get me silly. That's the whole. I don't know, something. I just maybe, you know, it looks too earnest.

[B]

I guess silly is the wrong word. It's just so dramatic.

[A]

It is dramatic. It is really drama.

[B]

Old Hollywood glamour.

[A]

It really does. And then being yellow kind of, like, confusing because old Hollywood would not have been yellow, you know?

[B]

Right.

[A]

So it's like, which is. Which is not bad. Again, it just throws me. I don't like this look.

[B]

The theme that year was like China. It was like something Chinese. It was like something. And so I think that is probably where the yellow comes in. Like.

[A]

But I'm with you.

[B]

It's like, on theme, but I understand what you're saying.

[A]

And then her heavenly bodies look.

[B]

I thought it was cute.

[A]

She has, like, a silver paper hat. Like a hat? Yeah, from like, a Pope hat, man. You know, a matching jacket and little mini dress type situation like that.

[B]

It's a mini dress. I don't know why.

[A]

I don't know that. I love that it's a mini dress either. Although it looks good. Like, you know, I look. I'm like, yes, that look works. But I'm like, I don't know.

[B]

Part of me feels like I would have just preferred it be a robe. Like, I wish the dress was not there. The rope was just there. You have belts or something. That's the sit or close, the rope. And then we just have a leg popping out.

[A]

I agree. I don't like the dress. But for 2021 look.

[B]

Was that the black thing?

[A]

It's the black. It's like the. All black is kind of puffy.

[B]

What was that theme? I don't remember.

[A]

I have no clue what any of these themes are, child. I don't know nothing about the theme, but. But none compare.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

To her 2017, Comme des Garcon.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Look where she's giving very much. Gwen Stefani cultural appropriation teas. Oh, I love that look.

[B]

I think that there are people who are known for their fashion, and then there are people who are, like, so, so talented.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Ariana Grande is so, so talented.

[A]

Now, we were just talking about this. Okay. There are some people, again, whose talent carries them. And there's other people that are Rihanna. Right. And I'm not upset at either.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

I love Rihanna. And I love Ariana Grande.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

As well, for totally different reasons.

[B]

And while we're here.

[A]

And while we're here.

[B]

So here's the thing that said, never looks good at the Met Gala. She has not. I don't think. I'm sure looking back through all of her looks, I think she always looks okay at best. And I'm like, it's not good. I think the. The best thing that has ever given us to the Met is when she got into that fight and gave us. I think that that is the best thing ever, because the fight where she got walks up the elevator. That is from the Met Gala.

[A]

You're joking.

[B]

No. I think that's the only thing.

[A]

I had no clue that was from the Met.

[B]

I think that is the only thing she has ever given us from the man.

[A]

Shocked.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That was a. That was. Oh, and I guess thinking timeline wise, I guess that was early, but that was a party.

[A]

Yeah. Because that came out in 2016. Yeah. So you're telling me in the Met gala.

[B]

I mean, they were in an elevator, but beating up. Is that really what his.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

That was leaving a mid event. I meant certainly the Met gala the night of. I believe it was the actual Met gala.

[A]

That's. Nah.

[B]

Correct. So yeah.

[A]

The way that nothing has ever really like concretely come out about what the happen still blows my mind almost a decade later. Them NDAs must be tight and airtight, Anna.

[B]

But the bodies are everywhere.

[A]

Ellen, you.

[B]

I'm telling you, bodies are everywhere.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

But yes, I. I think I will stand on that.

[A]

Someone else who has never looked good at the Met, in my opinion is one.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

I don't want the coming for me.

[B]

I agree. And so I would argue. Sorry, I didn't mean you.

[A]

No, no, no, no. Go for it.

[B]

Because I think to me is fine.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't think she looks. No, that's not true. Sorry. She has looked bad a couple times.

[A]

There have been a couple times.

[B]

In general, it's not good.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

And I think she makes a lot of lists where I'm like, no.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Your name is Carrie.

[A]

Yeah. Right. No, he looks bad. She actively looks bad.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

At the Met gala. Quite often. Most times. I mean, I can't think of a time when she didn't look bad. But to be fair, her rival also looks bad 100 of the time to me at the Matt Gallery.

[B]

I'm with you.

[A]

I'm like, nope.

[B]

I also didn't. I didn't like. I. I feel like I have a. My body is like rejecting the thought that she has always looked bad.

[A]

I think I do think there's one good. Correct.

[B]

Yeah. Like saying that I'm. Ooh, that feels wrong.

[A]

Wrong.

[B]

But you're right. Most of the time I'm like, no. Like, even last year I was like, I don't get this. I don't. It was like the black.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, you know what? The red one. That red.

[B]

The year of the fight.

[A]

That's the year. That's the exact soul time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That she has looked good literally every single other time. And even that makes me itch. I'm looking at it. Even the image makes me itch. But she does, I feel like, objectively look pretty good.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. There's something about it that I'm trying to get a better angle of it. I think it is. It is triggering like not tryptophobia but something.

[A]

Something adjacent.

[B]

Definitely do like it. And you know what's crazy to me? I will say she misses at the Met, but I don't think she misses often. Yeah. I think she also looks good in general. That other one.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Around the clock.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Mrs. On.

[A]

Mrs. Not a. Not a hit.

[B]

No.

[A]

In decades. Decades. And I'm trying to think of a hit decades ago and I can't.

[B]

I think a lot of okays.

[A]

Yeah. Max.

[B]

Max. I think maybe once in a while like okay. Right Cute.

[A]

Right. Now you know who I think is going to do this thing? Well, who else is Janelle Monae. Oh, she's gonna kill this if she's invited. Is Janelle Monae invited to these types of things? Always.

[B]

I imagine she's one of those people who like sure can.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Because she's like I would. I would put her in the same campus like a Tiana Taylor where like you are a fashion nice. So some designer is like you.

[A]

Anna Wintour invited her. She thought of for this theme. Definitely.

[B]

You can dress.

[A]

Definitely. Right. Dress them. They will be good for this. Are there any. I'm sorry, do you. Are there any influencers you think are going to make it this year? I would love to see any given Sunday. I don't know if you know her.

[B]

The.

[A]

Is that any is a tik toker. Is it spelled en E N I. I feel like she's a tick tocker. A black girl. Iller outfits. Does not motherfucking.

[B]

Oh she's very pretty.

[A]

Ever does not miss Would love to see any kill a Met gala and I do think they're starting to invite.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like influencers. That's starting. That's seeming to be a thing and I can definitely see any on that list.

[B]

I Looking at her. Beautiful girl. Beautiful. I also think given the theme this would make sense to like tap into black influencers.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And I feel like why not Is just a very, very pretty girl.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And while we're on the topic of influencers, people get upset about that and I'm like. But like it's. That's kind of where culture is going and like these are celebrities. Like they are becoming the type of celebrity. So like why not? I think don't be. Don't be weird about them going like it's fine. Especially if they go and kill the look.

[A]

I'm like. And any. Any.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I think she would would turn her Looks beautiful girl. Look at this.

[B]

Oh, she's also a camp. I mean, this is camp. I'm looking at a photo of her. This isn't camp. This is actually culture.

[A]

It is culture. It's culture.

[B]

I'm sorry. I thought this was a. A blonde wig. What I'm looking at is a. A head wrap. I am any. I am sorry. That's my fault.

[A]

I'm screaming.

[B]

You look great. I do think she would kill this. This is. Is this for Vogue? What is this for? No, it's a wedding.

[A]

Just a fashion girl.

[B]

A yoruba wedding. Okay.

[A]

Wait, can I. Yeah, keep scrolling. I'm sorry. Actually, I just. I just love.

[B]

Yeah. Style.

[A]

Yeah. She looks great all the time. Like, I. What are these really?

[B]

What are these pieces? Who. What is what. What are we wearing?

[A]

A star. Anyway, she is.

[B]

I also love that she's finding. So. Okay. Oh, wow. What? I also hope to see other influencers. I'm assuming Emma Chamberlain will be. There's a couple of people who are like, always there, but with this theme, I do hope that they tap into black influencers and bring them in.

[A]

That'll be great. Because think about. I feel like influencers have more to. Are more likely to get dragged for participating in this particular theme than a celebrity is.

[B]

You know, you want people to get dragged?

[A]

No, no, no. I'm just saying, like, non black influencers. Like a Bretman Rock showing up on theme might not bode super well for his image.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

In a way that doesn't affect a celebrity.

[B]

Right, right, right. Like, yeah. Like, influencer can be more cancelable than like a. Like you. There's no canceling Kim Kardashian. She literally can't do anything.

[A]

You can't cancel much people and be.

[B]

Like, it could be ruin him. But I think he'll be fine. I think he also like a very. Like, he's very much like a. Woke is the wrong word because that's so. But, you know, I mean, he's like a ally in a lot of ways. Like, I don't think he would.

[A]

Like, what is it? It's like, I'm gay and this is my friend Alicia. She's the ally. Say hi. And she'd be like, hi, I'm an ally.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

It's really funny.

[B]

I also just hope we see more black designers.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, at this positive.

[A]

We'll see lots of that.

[B]

I. I agree. But I mean, obviously there's gonna be like, I believe Louis Vuitton is in. I don't know if they're like, tangentially a chair because of Pharrell. So the big houses are gonna be there, but I'm like, I don't know. There's just, like, smaller brands I think will be fun. Martin Rose would be fine. Who?

[A]

Hanifa.

[B]

I don't love that for.

[A]

That's a black designer.

[B]

Oh, fun.

[A]

Like, yeah, they make like wedding dresses and stuff too, but they have just like, formal and like, less formal. Black fashions.

[B]

Black fashions. A fashion show with no fashions. How dreadful. You didn't watch Housewives, did you?

[A]

Sure did.

[B]

That's okay. You know what? But yes, because this is a theme that is so suiting for men. I also hope men turn out. Coleman Domingo obviously is going to look really well because we've been listing a lot of, like, women who I'm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Now that I'm looking at the list are all the boys that, like, we can reference are white.

[A]

Barry, Cutie.

[B]

Oh, Usher.

[A]

Usher, Harry Styles.

[B]

I don't.

[A]

I don't kid Cudi. Asap. Of course. Oh, yeah, Timot.

[B]

Because also Timothy, he surprisingly, maybe not surprisingly, like with. Oh, yeah.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So I think he also will do really well.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I'm like, very excited for that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Do you think him and Kylie will walk together?

[A]

Probably. They've been showing up to things together.

[B]

Yeah, they were just like Coachella together.

[A]

Kind of crazy. They were at Coachella together. He took her to one of the Oscars.

[B]

No, it was.

[A]

I think he did take her to the Oscars, but no, he, like had his mom sit front row and. Yeah. Had her sit behind or they swapped throughout the night or some like that. But. But I love this. And then if Ganga is going, I.

[B]

Wonder if she will because she's like ball deep. Yeah. So cuz she had also. She had a theme that was so up her alley. She was there for camp and I feel like her camp was fine. Like her. The way she.

[A]

Pink one.

[B]

Yeah, that pink is camp. And it was like the camp for. She hit the theme in terms of like. Because the way she did it. The performance was the camp, but the looks themselves were very like, like, yeah, sure.

[A]

I'm looking right now. It's like her.

[B]

She, like has a big poofy dress.

[A]

Poofy dress. And then she takes it off to reveal a black dress and takes it off to reveal a small pink dress and then takes it off to reveal Gaga underwear. Right? Yeah, yeah. And like, very Gaga. She is camp. Essentially what she's saying is I am. I'm Emily Fleming.

[B]

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It doesn't.

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But, like, put your name down for schedule ending.

[A]

Yeah, I'm excited to see. You know what? You know, she does love to do drag. Gaga loves a drag moment. Now, if she pulls up as.

[B]

What's his name? What was that man's name?

[A]

I don't remember, but I know exactly what you're talking about. The man that she kept playing repeatedly.

[B]

I can't. He was everywhere. He was like so many.

[A]

He played the piano at award shows. He was in the uni music. Yeah.

[B]

He congratulated Jay Z when they found out they were blue.

[A]

Yeah. Yes. She's like. Or Gaga's in the crowd as like. Has to show.

[B]

That's fun.

[A]

Has to show up. In fact, one of the things of the Met needs to be drag at some point. Like a drag theme.

[B]

Interesting.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

[A]

What you think?

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I just. I could. Something about me is resistant to that. I don't know how men would do it, so. No, that's my thing. They would do it poorly. No, I think most men would not commit to drag. And I'm like, don't do it then. Don't go if you're not gonna.

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That wasn't whole point.

[B]

You know, I agree.

[A]

I got a baseline put on a kill. I know they don't. Right. I feel like a lot of men wouldn't even.

[B]

And I feel like. And, and I hate to say it. I hope I don't sound ridiculous. The wrong men would. Cuz, you know, Billy Porter.

[A]

Too. You know Billy's 2019 look.

[B]

Oh, God, was that heavenly?

[A]

Figures.

[B]

What was the theme? I remember this look. This is the golden look.

[A]

It's the golden look. Look where Billy has a bunch of men carry him on a throne.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Into the Met Gala. And all the men are wearing no shirts.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

And gold pants. And Billy has on, you know, an entire. Oh, go.

[B]

This is also camp. This is from the Europe. Yeah.

[A]

Is this camp? Right.

[B]

Again, like the performance of it.

[A]

And it's not even. This is honestly too on brand for Billy.

[B]

Like, it's not cute for you.

[A]

Right. It's too like.

[B]

No, I believe that you. If you could enter every room this way.

[A]

Yeah. Hello. Hello. It was not weird for you to enter every room like that. You simply would also. I don't like asap.

[B]

That blanket.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I forget what this was. Was this heavenly?

[A]

What year Was this in 2021. ASAP. Rocky wore what looks like a. A patch quilt. Yeah, like a blanket.

[B]

It was a. In America fashions lexicon. American.

[A]

Yeah. I don't like this. It looks like a patchwork quilt. And he literally just has it wrapped around him.

[B]

It looks like he literally was like, oh, I have to go. And I'm just grabbing a blanket.

[A]

He's like, ah, Rihanna want to go? Like, okay, I wasn't prepared. Like, let me go ahead and grab a blanket, wrap it around. We'll call it that. I'm a saffron. And now he is a chair.

[B]

So maybe it works. Maybe that's what we. Who am I?

[A]

We don't get it. Maybe I'm not a passion.

[B]

Maybe we should just go grab blankets and run.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

I know people joke about sneaking into the Met. I. No, I would never. Because I'll be afraid that I would love to go and so I would never want to be banned. And so I would never sneak in.

[A]

But would you be banned? Like, how would they know you. You know what I mean? Like how you know me to ban. Sorry.

[B]

But I mean, if I, I. If I got as try to sneak in and failed you Would be, baby, I imagine. And so I don't think I would.

[A]

Want to risk that, I guess. But, like, how would they know you if you try to sneak in and fail?

[B]

I mean, like, years, like, if I didn't, like. And then try to go, like.

[A]

I think that's the same man I tried to get correct.

[B]

Yeah. That's more of what I mean. I would never want to ruin a future chance.

[A]

Kind of giving, like, a story.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm.

[A]

The Sierra goes to the Met Gala.

[B]

I'm sure she has. I can't think of the time she's been.

[A]

I can't remember a time that she has been either. Very. Keegan looked pretty.

[B]

Whatever. He looked really mad at her.

[A]

He did look like the Mad Hatter in 2024.

[B]

Was Sabrina Carpenter there?

[A]

She had to be right at all.

[B]

Sierra has gone to the Met a couple times.

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Yes.

[B]

I don't remember these looks at all.

[A]

And then FKA Twigs. Ooh, she's gonna.

[B]

She.

[A]

FKA Twigs. She looks good.

[B]

I am curious as to how she. She will do this if she can, because, you know, tech. Wow. Wow.

[A]

Her team didn't do her paperwork enough for her visa, for the. For coach, and for any of her North American shows. I.

[B]

The way I would look at my team and go, what do you. I. I'm like, certainly, I am misunderstanding what you're saying.

[A]

Somebody is getting fired. Hey, hey. What do you. Okay.

[B]

I literally.

[A]

Her first. Oh, it wasn't her first Coachella. She performed a Coachella in, like, 2014, but it was.

[B]

She was like, a bigger name, but.

[A]

Now she's like FKA Twigs, and this.

[B]

Is the first time she's been in North America touring in a minute. No, I just can't. I literally. I can't imagine being on a musician's team, and I just don't, like, we're doing Coachella. What do you mean? We didn't find. What do you mean? I could not fathom you. You saying that to me.

[A]

And this is the one time when, if I'm a celebrity, I'm turning this out out genuinely. I'm trying to, like, keep it cute. Trying to not act like a diva. Trying not to be, like, the celebrity in the room in general right now. When y' all up my money and my opportunities, I'm turning this up.

[B]

I agree. I. I legitimately. The anger I feel could not ignore.

[A]

Like, I'm Naomi Campbell throwing cell phones.

[B]

I just fired you. Being fired is the minimum.

[A]

Okay. You're very fired, baby ass minimum.

[B]

I'm I'm. I'm at least attempting to lay hands on you.

[A]

Hello. Don't. Because now, now I think that you hate me. Like, you're standing in the way of my progress legitimately.

[B]

Like, I just can't fathom. What do you mean? I literally didn't. I could not imagine being in that room. Because I would ask her as a joke, I would be like, oh, this isn't a funny joke. But I assume you are. Are joking. Like, you must be joking.

[A]

Like, I'm not really amused.

[B]

But like, so when is the PJ leave?

[A]

Hand me my visa.

[B]

I don't understand.

[A]

Yeah, I have heard you insane.

[B]

But yeah, she won't be at net, but I think she sucks.

[A]

You know what looks really good in 2024 is Lana Del Rey. Okay, I really like this look. I know people did not love this look. I love this.

[B]

I like the reference. It is the reference of like the E beating the apple. I forget who's the artist, but it's very famous painting.

[A]

Okay. She has on like, she has like branches coming out of her head that kind of look like antlers, but it's not antlers. It's branches. And then there's a net draped over those antlers. And she also has twigs coming up the bodice of her dress going up her neckline. And then she has. Is that supposed to be an apple? It looks like a rose.

[B]

Is it?

[A]

It looks. That looks like a rose.

[B]

Oh, it is a rose. I took it to be an apple. But you're right, it is.

[A]

It is in packaging in her hand. Yeah, but it's, it's. It's very tan and I just like it. It's beautiful. To me, that's art. To me, that's this, this is my.

[B]

I'm with you.

[A]

I'm not a real abstract art type girl, you know. I said, yeah, I agree with you.

[B]

It looks like a painting.

[A]

Painting.

[B]

I think a attempt at something very similar that did not hit. Yeah, Lizzo from last year.

[A]

Oh, what are those on the. Like last year, silly. Oh, it. Can you describe her for this?

[B]

So she's wearing like a bodycon type of dress? Not bodycon. It's like a form fitting dress that like drapes out at the bottom that creates like this, like. It's like a tree. It's the best way to describe it. It's like there's roots going down and then she has, similar to Lana Del Rey, like a thing, a headpiece that goes up that looks like roots are sprouting from her head and it has like flowers in it. It just looks misses the mark. I think the. The wiring to create this image looks silly.

[A]

Oh yeah. It's like.

[B]

Yeah, it's woody and like colors wise, it works. The structure is bad.

[A]

Oh yeah. This is not good. This. Yeah, that didn't do it for me.

[B]

It's similar to Lana Del Rey's, but I feel like Lana executed it much better.

[A]

Yes, yes. No, I definitely agree with that. And then we have Jared Leto who has on like a red priest type outfit type situation.

[B]

Sure. That was camp. That was the idea. So he brought. He brought. No, it's not a priesthood. It's his head he came with.

[A]

And then he has his head.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

He has. I think. I think it's the priest looking outfit like that. Like a blood red priest looking coat situation.

[B]

Oh, what's this? Heavenly bodies.

[A]

And then he has his own head. That's his purse or like accessory.

[B]

Yeah, Jared Leto's known to. Because he also came as like the year when they were.

[A]

He came as the cat.

[B]

Yeah, he came as his cat.

[A]

He came as the cat.

[B]

You know who else? They're like new people who are like newish to the scene and I think executed it well. Tyler. She was the sands of time.

[A]

Tyler Insane. So good.

[B]

I think it might be my favorite from last year. It is beautiful.

[A]

Who the addressed is beautiful actually.

[B]

I don't know who did this then.

[A]

Kind of sandman with her Santa. Oh my God.

[B]

Yeah, it's great.

[A]

And this hourglass purse, like she looks.

[B]

It's great.

[A]

I cannot move on. But you know what? See now here I am being like a simulator or not being hater. But I'm wondering how much of this is because of her body.

[B]

Yes and no. Well. Or like because you're right. I think that her being very thin makes this just kind of like also like it lends to the sans of tiny of it all. I also just feel like. I think this is where it just comes together so well that like you. I agree that her being thin makes it also work. And I don't think it could work on anyone.

[A]

Right.

[B]

But I think it is executed so well.

[A]

It is executed. Executed really.

[B]

And like it's so on theme in a way. Cuz I believe the theme was Garden of Time. It is such an abstract way to think. It's on the nose but not like it is. Yeah. I feel like it does it so well that like you are not wrong that I think her being beyond tiny.

[A]

Is, you know, like the body. The body always bodies on Tyler real Bad. Like if this were on somebody who weren't as body forward, would it correct.

[B]

Cuz they painted this on her effect.

[A]

She's like. It doesn't even look like she has on a dress. And then we have Elphin in 2024. She has on like a translucent dress with. She kind of looks like an ice sculpture with two birds. True. Ice sculptured birds on each end of the shoulder.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Pulling the dress upward a little bit.

[B]

That's fun. It's like a water patent.

[A]

I do like it. Yeah, Very water. Exactly.

[B]

There's this model. Oh, here she is. Is her name Enoch Anoki? Anoki.

[A]

Who is that?

[B]

She's a model, I believe, also just a very stunning girl. I love this dress on her. She's wearing like this almost like it's like a crystal nude illusion. So like it starts at the top looking nude and then goes down and just crystals. She's just a beautiful girl in general.

[A]

She looks fantastic.

[B]

She's another one of like. I don't. I. I will say new to me. I'm sorry. I have no kids right now. I've noticed her in the last couple years and I think she also just generally is a stunning person. I'm excited to see how she does this.

[A]

I agree. Now something that I feel like happened often at the Met gala that I want to stop happening. People's dresses won't be bad, but the styling, their hair and makeup will fuck everything up. So an example of that is Sydney Sweeney. Oh, the garden year. She has on an icy blue Miu Miu gown. And it's. It's pretty. Like the gown is really pretty. Pretty. But then she has on black leather gloves and a black short bob. I've never even seen Sydney Sweeney with black hair. And this was not the moment for it. I understand the attempt at juxtaposition because obviously that had to be what was going on here because it's so glaring and it just doesn't look good. Yeah.

[B]

I feel like it also is just so hard against the brand that is Sydney Sweeney that it feels like Billie Eilish. I was just about to say that she looks like Billie Eilish.

[A]

Definitely thought it was really.

[B]

Yeah, it is. It is a hard departure from the brand. And I feel like. Yeah, I. I think especially with something like Garden. And maybe that was why. Because I feel like Garden could lend so well to being a blonde in the garden, you know, so maybe she was like, I want to edge it up.

[A]

But yeah, it's so unnecessary to edge this.

[B]

You know, the Dress is pretty.

[A]

And another example of that is Ray's 2024 look as well. She wore a Fendi gown, and it was silver. It had, you know, strings coming down off of it everywhere. And the dress itself, I wouldn't love regardless. But then paired with the hair and.

[B]

Makeup feels like an afterthought.

[A]

It's like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. Like, she has the hair that she always has. Like, it doesn't seem like anybody thought about what her hair was gonna look like in regards to this dress. Like, it's like, put Rey's hair on her.

[B]

Right, right.

[A]

And it's like.

[B]

And with this. Sometimes I wonder because, like, Rey is also still kind of, like, up and coming. And I do wonder if there's a level of. This was Gucci Fendi. So I. Cause, like, Fendi. She's probably at the Fendi table. They're like, we're gonna dress her. And I wonder if it's one of those things where it's like, we pull this piece for you, put it on, and then she just has her team do her hair and makeup as opposed to, like. Like, I know he's just right next to her. I know he's like, oh, you are. We. We pulled this dress and made it for you to go out and walk in this thing for us. And so I do wonder how much of it is. It is like an afterthought.

[A]

That's fair, because it certainly appears to be an afterthought. And again, this is what I'm talking about. If I were invited to the Met Gala, I already know. I wouldn't know where to start with how to look good. You know, Like, I maybe have an idea what I wanted to look like, but I wouldn't know how to get from brain to concept.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

You know, as a normal person. And sometimes when I look at people who are more up and coming, like, maybe a Ray. I don't know if Ray is still considered up and coming, but maybe at this time, or, you know, some other people that are in here, I'm like, oh, you look confused. You know, And I know that I would also look like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If somebody wanted me to the Met right now, I'd be like, fuck, I don't know where to start.

[B]

And also when it, like, you're. If you're not. If you were, like, into fashion in a very general way.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Because I imagine if you were like. Like, I think, like, I remember that interview where Zendaya was like, oh, fashion was like, an intentional.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So she probably could do that because she had that way. But I think most people probably look at fashion, it's like, oh, I like this to look cute. You wouldn't know. Oh, I don't know what designers to even think of.

[A]

I don't know what designers to look. Think about. I don't know how to hit this theme.

[B]

Right.

[A]

In a way that is art and you know, and like especially the Met.

[B]

Because it is, you know, it's not just like, it's not even just like, oh, looking good. It is like specific.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So I feel for the up and coming girls who get their invite to the Met. Maybe they're one and only invite to the Met.

[B]

True.

[A]

And then they don't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, because it's hard to turn to look like this.

[B]

And also there's so much pressure on it.

[A]

So much pressure.

[B]

It's very Hunger Games Capital.

[A]

100%. Now, contrary to the popular dominant thoughts, I really liked Kim K's Marilyn Monroe dress last year.

[B]

Was that last year?

[A]

Oh, no, that was 2022. That was a long time ago. Damn. That was a long time.

[B]

I know.

[A]

Time.

[B]

What is time?

[A]

That's crazy. Yeah. And I really like Kim bleach blonde like that too. I think like the bleach with the makeup looks good. The hair looks. Looks good. The dress looks good. Like, this is how you pull a cohesive look to me. Especially when you're not cuz Kim, the crafts in general, they're not fashion girls. Sure. You know what I mean? They always look good.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

But they are not fashion girls. And this is still aligned with that. Where it's like, this is not a fashion girl, but it is archival.

[B]

Right.

[A]

It does make sense. You know, like, and it looks good. Period.

[B]

And people got upset about. And I. No, I don't understand why people are upset. Like, in theory, I understand why you're angry that she's wearing Marilyn Monroe dress.

[A]

I still understand why people are upset.

[B]

If you didn't know, I don't believe you knew. Had she not or it not have been stated that this is Marilyn Monroe's dress, you wouldn't have known.

[A]

You would not.

[B]

You wouldn't have cared.

[A]

Imagine how many people wear dresses that were previously worn by XYZ person. You know, like you pull from archives. Of course you think you're the only person that's ever worn that archival piece. You think that literally retired it after Marilyn Monroe.

[B]

Stop.

[A]

Okay. Like you knew somebody else was gonna wear it eventually. And of course it's Kim Kardashian. Marilyn Monroe reincarnated.

[B]

And then on top of that, I, I think people don't give the Kardashians specifically opposite Kim enough credits where like, I think she also has a reference for it. And so she. I don't think she'll be wearing it. She'll be like, I am. Yes. Like, I know what I am doing. I'm making sure this is.

[A]

Careful she has for it.

[B]

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, I don't think she is wearing it haphazardly.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And I feel like people should respect that. I don't. This is, and I don't mean this in a shady way. This is literally her job.

[A]

Right. Her body is fashion more than what she puts on her body. Because I'm even thinking about her. What year is this other look that she has?

[B]

Was it the, the drippy.

[A]

Yeah. 2019 theme for camp? The Mugler dress. Oh my God. Mugler is my favorite designer. Yeah. Yes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because you know the basic thought. Yes, I love.

[B]

Sorry. Mugler has fun things.

[A]

But yeah, but like this teeny, teeny, teeny tiny waist and these big ass hips that she, you know, it looks painful. But yeah, you know, and this is what fashion has always been anyway. Should we move on?

[B]

Yeah, sorry.

[A]

We ain't got some games. Yeah. We ain't got a ton of time. Most overrated looks. Do you have any most overrated look? It can be anything that we've stated here. I think I already said I can go first, but.

[B]

Yeah, you go first.

[A]

Mine definitely is Rihanna's yellow dress. That is to me easily the most overrated look.

[B]

Offended by that. I. Wow. I. I really like the dress about a multi wool. You know what? I do like that dress. But I understand what you're saying. Especially as the more time has passed, I think other people. I think at the time she wore that dress, it, it was like the impetus of met being like pop culture. Looking back, it is simpler than I remember and I can concede that in retrospect, an overrated look.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Hey, however, she looks fucking good.

[A]

It's impossible for her not to look good. She looks good literally in a plastic bag. So paper bag doesn't matter. She looks great. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Sorry, I had to process that. Yeah, that's true.

[A]

Who's the most overrated for you?

[B]

I people really liked. Again, my person is gonna be bleep it out. I really do think people. People really like that. Yeah, I think all of her looks. And again, I, I want to make it clear I love her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think anytime she makes a best dress list, I'm like, you're wrong.

[A]

I mean to be fair, nothing, nothing.

[B]

About that was good.

[A]

I have one piece from and it's.

[B]

Sitting in my closet.

[A]

I wear it as a workout outfit. Anyways.

[B]

Okay. I had mine. I think I sold because I was.

[A]

Like, what am I going to do? I did sell something. I sold like the pants. I think give it a chance. Hear me out. My hear me out is Beyonce. I don't know what year that was. Uh huh.

[B]

The ponytail.

[A]

Yeah. Beyonce's look with her sheer dress and the high blonde, super blonde ponytail. I love that look. I feel like the length of the dress is perfect. The way that the dress like sits on her is perfect. And I love a little sheer moment. I thought her makeup looked good. That's why hear me out.

[B]

I. I get it. I. That image is just very clear. When I think of Beyonce at the man. It is that image. That or the cursed image. The one where people were talking about the teeth. No, not the bangs. The bangs is from something else. I think my hear me out. Which I don't know if it needs to really be defended is bad bunny in the Jacques Moose.

[A]

One's gotta go. Sorry. The microphone cut off and we really don't know what it did and did not catch. So we're gonna do this game of one gotta go. And then we really gonna wrap it up. We're gonna do like two games and.

[B]

We'Re gonna wrap it up.

[A]

One gotta go. Coleman, Domingo. Zendaya. Rihanna, Gaga, Janelle Monae.

[B]

Okay. I. To me, one of these is clearly not like the other.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

And I feel like it's Janelle Monae. Like I think if I'm looking at these people, I. I would rather see.

[A]

By far I thought it was Gaga.

[B]

You don't even like. That's crazy because you don't even like genome.

[A]

I don't like Janelle Monet's music.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Or presence. Not that I don't like her as a person, but I like her brand. Should I say. And then Gaga. I love her brand deeply. And I don't like I Gaga. The only Met Gala look I know was that pink one. It wasn't good.

[B]

Well yeah. But if I really sit with that, the camp one is the only one when she was a chairman and I. I can't think of other times, but I'm thinking of Gaga as like an entity, as a fashion person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think that is what excites me about seeing her that's fair. Over where Janelle and a. I feel like I've seen, like. I feel like I. I can guess what you're gonna wear.

[A]

I totally align. Totally, totally, totally.

[B]

But I don't need to see it again.

[A]

Okay. For this particular thing, I am really excited to see Gaga, though, just because she does do drag, and I. I guess that does make this harder. I guess for this particular theme, Rihanna can go.

[B]

Wow. Okay. I was gonna say if this seems specifically mainly because probably pregnant.

[A]

You know what I mean? So she's not gonna give. She's not gonna get butch in the way that I would like her to. You know, she was gonna do it.

[B]

That's okay.

[A]

Okay. And then girls who gave us nothing award for the girl who consistently gives us nothing.

[B]

Well, I think the queen of nothing is Kendall Jenner. I. I can't even remember. I assume that she goes to the Met Gala. I have to believe she goes, wow. Cannot think of one. I can't think of a single Kendall. There's one Kendall Jenner look I can think of, and I only know it because she dressed like her sister Kylie. They were twins. And so, yeah, I think Kendall gives nothing consistently. That is exactly the look because Kylie wore a blue one.

[A]

So up hold the one. This look right here.

[B]

Oh, what is this? Heavenly Bodies.

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This Met Gala, she got on a silver. Honestly, she does look the same most years.

[B]

I agree.

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Kendall always does. Some. Some sheer.

[B]

Right?

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Some level of sheer. Some of them look better than others. But there is one look in particular where she looks good at the mat.

[B]

Did I guess that theme? Is it Heavenly Bodies?

[A]

I'm gonna be if it's Heavenly Bodies. Bodies. Yeah. Guess. See if that's.

[B]

I'm gonna guess that It's Heavenly Bodies. 2021. 2021 theme.

[A]

Oh, wow. She does consistently look pretty. Not great.

[B]

Yeah. Like, I think Kendall Jenner, where we were asking earlier. No, it's American fashion. Was that year, but okay. I think there's. Yeah. Big is bad.

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We're looking at all of Kendall's years. She wore off white in 18. Oh. Oh, God.

[B]

This is the one where she dressed her. They were like Vegas show girls. They basically had big feathers. Kylie had a blue one. That's the one.

[A]

She does. She looks good. Givenchy and given this.

[B]

When Kim wore that, she was with Kanye. She does look silly. This looks like a meme.

[A]

This is like a joke. That is absolutely insane. Yeah. Okay. She looked really good in 2021, I.

[B]

Think when we were kind of saying, like, is this fashion or is it thin. I think Kendall falls into things always thin. And I think. Don't get more wrong. She looks good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think a lot of times like thin, right?

[A]

Very much. Then, yeah, you know what? I'm. I'm good to go with Kindle as girl.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Nothing as well.

[B]

I don't know if Du Lape has ever been. I can't think of a Dula people.

[A]

I believe Dula Peep did go last year. I remember one Dua Lipa look, and she looked great to me. And I remember everybody being like, okay.

[B]

Yeah, what I'm seeing, I don't like any of it. But sure.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I love it. Is why bad?

[A]

I love this Chanel look so much.

[B]

I think. Is it because it's very girly?

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One of my favorite Met Gala looks.

[B]

That's insane.

[A]

That I.

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Don't get me wrong. It does not look.

[A]

And, you know, to be fair, I just love it. You know what I mean? It's not like, oh, this is fashion. This is fashion. It's just, like, cute. I love that you like you.

[B]

I would love to wear this dress.

[A]

That down tone, because it's a very simple.

[B]

It's also very classic Chanel. It's, like, very structured.

[A]

And Chanel is your brand.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Chanel is my favorite designer.

[B]

It's very princessy. Like, it's like this billowy a little bit. And I wonder maybe if I'm taking this wrong, I think, because I know you love pink, and it's. Do you just, like, princessy? It is not edgy. Don't do that.

[A]

Look at. Look at. Look at. Look at the. The black trim on it. Gives it a little bit of an edge. Like, look.

[B]

I.

[A]

Look at this photo right here.

[B]

No, no, I'm with you. It just looks like Chanel. It looks like Chanel.

[A]

Like, embroidery has a little bit of edge to it. I have a little bit of edge in the. Yes, the edges has edge, and Dua Lipa has edge. Okay. I love it. Oh, my God. It has pockets.

[B]

Does it?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it does. Okay.

[A]

Oh, my. Yeah, it's like that.

[B]

Like. I don't know if tweet is the right word. It looks tweety moment. Yeah, sure, sure.

[A]

Oh, she ate that. The down. Sorry.

[B]

You know what's crazy? To me? I prefer. I prefer the way it was originally styled. I. I love the hat. I think we're gonna go. Let's go.

[A]

I. I also love that.

[B]

And to me, I'm not gonna hold you. I think I would have preferred if it had a hat and a glove. We're gonna go like her hair color.

[A]

And her lip and her makeup gives it an edge that Chanel doesn't easily lend.

[B]

Yeah.

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To.

[B]

They're very. Chanel's very girly.

[A]

Yeah. Chanel is definitely like structured, structured business even.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I really think that's it. Yeah. I don't think we have too much more to say.

[B]

I know we're ahead of the Met Gala. So by the time this comes out, will the Met Gala have happened?

[A]

No, the Met Gala will be coming out in like two days, four days.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This comes out on the first. The Met is on the fifth. So. Yeah. The Met Gala takes place Monday, May 5th, 2025. Red carpet. Typically starts at 5:30pm Eastern Time. And we will be, you know, on Instagram judging just like everybody else.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

So join us there if you would like. Ryan, please let the folks know where they can find you.

[B]

Yes, you can find me on all socials at goodguyry. That is G U D goodguy Ry rai. Where can we find you?

[A]

You can find me at bplppod across all social media platforms. You can email me @BlackPeopleLove Paramore Gmail.com and you can find my personal socials at sequoiabholmes across all platforms.

[B]

And listen to you watch.

[A]

You listen to me on the daily dirty every day on SiriusXM on the unwell on air channel. Channel. You can also listen to me on channel 109.

[B]

I didn't realize. I guess I always listen in my house on like little AirPods. I don't think I realized it was like, it's got to be a car. Of course. It's a car thing as well. Oh, wow. But yeah, okay, come on, man.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

And then you will see us at.

[A]

The Miguela soon, I promise you. And I expect you to give me all the grace. Even though I'm not giving any. I expect all the grace.

[B]

Give me. Give me all the hate. Because I really do feel like I1 outdressing men. Probably not that hard.

[A]

Fair.

[B]

So that's why I feel like, wow, that's very fair. I probably would outdress most men.

[A]

That's very, very.

[B]

But it could easily tip into Billy Porter land. And I would expect Sequoia to check me. I don't think I would ever tip.

[A]

Into Billy Porter land.

[B]

You think?

[A]

I think you. I really could see it.

[B]

That feels like an insult.

[A]

I don't even mean it as an insult. I'm just like I see how easy it is to get there. I definitely see how easy it is to get there.

[B]

I can see that, too.

[A]

Not Billy Porter. You know what I mean?

[B]

Right? Because it's easy to get there. Because I see how in your brain, you're like, oh, this.

[A]

This is a moment.

[B]

And I think a part of the Billy Porter land is that he also, when he is, like, I'm having a moment, he is selling a moment there all the time.

[A]

You know what I mean? That's where he's, you know, Billy Porter. Right. Is always in Billy Porter land. And it's fine to get there for, you know, an event like the Met.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

But, like, when you're there at the M, and you're there also at dinner on Thursday, it's like.

[B]

Like, it feels like you are not doing this because of the Met. It feels like if you could do this because it's Tuesday, you would always do this.

[A]

You would always do this. Right.

[B]

You just needed an excuse, right?

[A]

Very much so, yes. While I do think you could get there, I don't think that it would. Please re. I don't think it would be the same impact.

[B]

This is me at the Met, Gal.

[A]

I could never imagine you. I could literally never imagine.

[B]

No, I'm sure Billy Porter is a kind person. I. I'm sure. I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah, she seems great.

[B]

Okay, great. Let's get out of here.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Bye.

[A]

See you next time.