We talk about the Bible verses that changed Rick Warren's mind about women in church leadership positions as well as the feud between him and the Souther Baptist Convention.

What happens when you let your wife produce the podcast and you threaten to fire her during the show? Absolute chaos!

In this episode, we're joined by special guest producer Lyndsey to break down everything from the marital magic of "chore play" and listener voicemails, to Rick Warren and the Southern Baptist Conventions split over women in church leadership, and why rigid church cultures struggle with nuance.

Plus, we take a detour through ancient text interpretations, first-century euphemisms, and what it really feels like to step into a brand new church community after a decade of leading the old one.

00:00 - Meet the Producer: Lyndsey Joins the Show

03:00 - Chore Play: The Secret to Romance?

10:15 - Questions with Quaid & Catching Up with Scott

17:30 - The SBC vs. Saddleback: Rick Warren and Women in Leadership

37:00 - First Vagilonians and Linguistic Rabbit Holes

51:00 - The Brittleness of Deconstruction and Church Transitions

1:05:00 - Spotting Cult Tactics and Managing Nuance

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