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Building Brand Advocacy
Hosted by Paul Archer and Verity Hurd · EN
Building Brand Advocacy is a tactical marketing podcast exploring how the world’s most impactful brands grow.
Hosted by Paul Archer and Verity Hurd, the show explores the tactics and strategies behind modern brand building.
Each episode breaks down how category-defining brands, platform leaders, and industry insiders rewriting the rules of growth and the tactics, strategies, and decisions other brands can apply immediately.
This podcast is your marketing playbook.
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The 5- Step Framework to Fast & Slow Social Strategy: Beth & Michael from Slice Social
2w ago00:55:21Tap to summarizeIn this week's episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Beth & Michael, founders of Slice social media agency, break down their 5-Step Social Strategy: Discovery, Storytelling, Challenge, Problem-Tension-Goal, and Solution. Plus, why the "Fast & Slow" approach to social is the framework that separates brands that win from brands that just post.This is an episode designed to give you direction in social media, to integrate a purpose into your posting and work strategically to reach your end objective. In this episode, we cover:00:00 Introduction 05:15 The 5-Step Social Media Strategy06:45 Step 1: Discovery20:06 Step 2: Storytelling through strategy 29:24 Step 3: The Challenge33:39 Step 4: Problem, Tension, Goal 34:50 Step 5: Solution 44:17 The Fast & Slow Approach To Social 🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH BETH & MICHAELBeth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/betheleanorthomas/Michael: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelrichardcorcoran/Slice Social: https://www.slice-social.com/FOLLOW USSubscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyPaul: TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyVerity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
Transcribe →Cannes Lions CMO on Community, Advocacy & What Actually Moves Revenue
3w ago00:45:38Tap to summarizeIn this weeks episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we invite the CMO of Cannes Lions to join us ahead of the festival to unpack what's actually shifting in advocacy, creator marketing, and how the Lions are judged in 2026. plus hard strategies for measuring community, elevating marketing in the boardroom, and driving real ROI.In this episode, we cover:What to expect from Cannes Lions in 2026 What’s changing in advocacy & creator marketingThe Lion judgement process at CannesOpportunities for CMOs to elevate marketing in boardrooms How to effectively measure community The next generation of CEO & CMO’sBuilding community through credibility Chapters00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro01:36 How Cannes Lions Has Evolved05:20 CMO Pressure and Priorities09:05 How Cannes Lions Judging Works15:12 Proof Creativity Drives Growth18:31 Merging Brand and Performance22:14 Boardroom Alignment and Metrics29:31 How to Measure Community Impact34:19 The CMO of 203039:25 You Cannot Buy Attention42:28 AI and Creative Possibility45:01 Cannes Week Wrap Up🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH ILARIALinkedIn: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/ilariapasquinelliFOLLOW USSubscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyPaul: TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyVerity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
Transcribe →Is The Creator Economy Broken? ft. Manuel Albuquerque
Jun 1000:18:11Tap to summarizeIn this live episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Manuel Albuquerque, founder & CEO of Prime Tag, to unpack the AI revolution reshaping the creator economy from the inside out. From the real pressures facing time-poor marketing teams to the problems AI is actually solving (and the myths it's not), Manuel brings the entrepreneur's perspective that brand builders need right now.In this episode, we cover:Manuel’s journey to entrepreneurship in the influencer spaceThe time poor pressures of marketing teamsHow AI is influencing the creator economy The problem that AI is solving for marketing teamsBusting AI myths around the creator economy If you're navigating influencer strategy in an AI-first world, this one is essential listening.CHAPTERS00:00 People And Data First01:18 Creator Economy Boom01:59 From Basketball To Tech Startup04:08 The Influencer Stigma Debate05:24 Current Status: Bad Data And No Time06:38 AI Mindset Myth09:02 Augmented Intelligence Not Artificial Intelligence10:42 Myth Busting Rapid Fire12:17 How AI Is Changing Business Models15:29 Finding Effective Creator X Brand Matches16:45 Brand Advocacy Advice🔔 Subscribe to Building Brand Advocacy for weekly conversations with the people reshaping how brands grow.CONNECT WITH MANUELLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelvicalbuquerque/PrimeTag: https://www.primetag.com/FOLLOW USVerity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
Transcribe →How Grace Andrews Builds A Content Strategy In 5 Steps
May 2700:39:29Tap to summarizeWe’re back with another mastermind episode. This week, Grace Andrews takes us through her 5 step framework for building a high performance content engine, from identifying content signals (before selecting platforms) to measuring success metrics that are relevant to you and your brand.In this episode, we cover:07:05 Step 1: Identifying Content Signals 11:47 Step 2: Approach To Content Formats26:31 Step 3: The Platform Specific Strategy28:43 Step 4: Where Creators Fit Into Your Content Strategy32:56 Step 5: How To Measure For Success 🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH GRACEInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsssTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7FOLLOW USSubscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyPaul: TikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyVerity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
Transcribe →Building TRIP: How a Challenger Brand Conquered the Wellness Drinks Market
May 1300:49:51Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, I sit down with Alice Ratcliffe, Head of Brand at TRIP — the wellness drinks brand rewriting the rules of brand positioning in one of the most crowded categories on the market.Alice pulls back the curtain on how TRIP went from scrappy challenger to a brand that commands culture, loyalty, and shelf space — and what it's really taken to scale that story into the US.In this episode, we cover:How to stand out in a saturated wellness & drinks marketTRIP's influencer strategy and why it's built differently to most other brandsIntegrating celebrities into your brand without losing authenticityThe real strategy for brand building in the USWhy employee advocacy is one of the most underrated tools in a marketer's arsenalHow to integrate AI for effective brand building in 2026The honest challenges of being the underdog and how to turn them into an advantageCHAPTERS00:00 The Polished Brand Problem02:03 Finding Branded White Space06:00 Regulation Into Advantage07:36 Always On Brand Building10:17 How To Earn Consumer Trust16:06 Creators Influencers Celebs23:25 US Expansion Playbook26:30 Approaching Employee Advocacy28:39 Scaling Without Gatekeeping29:51 Email List vs Community31:15 AI Vs IRL 33:36 Hosting Inclusive Brand Events35:50 Winning on TikTok Shop39:52 Global Growth and Accounts44:26 Powerful Founder Partnerships🔔 Subscribe to Building Brand Advocacy for weekly conversations with the people reshaping how brands grow.CONNECT WITH TRIPInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/trip.drinks/TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@trip.drinksFOLLOW USVerity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
Transcribe →Is your brand engineered for advocacy? | The Advocacy Maturity Model
Apr 2900:31:09Tap to summarizeIn this mastermind episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down the Advocacy Maturity Model, a strategic framework for diagnosing exactly where your brand sits on the advocacy spectrum and the precise steps to move from passive mentions to a fully activated community-led growth engine.Think of it as your strategic advocacy playbook, the kind of session your brand team needs to align on advocacy as a core brand lever rather than a marketing afterthought.Inside this episode:The 5 stages of brand advocacy maturity and how to identify which stage you're at right nowWhy most brands plateau at stage 2 and never break through to genuine brand loveThe structural shifts your team needs to make at each stage of the modelHow to turn community-led growth into a measurable brand assetThe metrics that actually matter when tracking advocacy momentumIf you’re a marketing leader trying to restructure your team's advocacy strategy, this episode gives you the framework to stop guessing and start growing with intention.🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.FOLLOW USSubscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacyVerity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/
Transcribe →Grace Andrews: Why Your Employees Are Your Most Powerful Brand Asset in 2026
Apr 2200:37:16Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Verity sits down with Grace Andrews to unpack the real shifts happening in social right now and what forward-thinking brands are doing to stay ahead in 2026 and beyond.Grace brings a sharp, strategic lens to one of the most underutilised growth levers in marketing today: employee advocacy. We go deep on why building brand growth from the inside out isn't just about brand culture but something much bigger.We then go onto discuss how to build an effective and experimental content eco-system as well as understanding how to navigate YouTube as long form presence is growing within the digital landscape. In this episode, we cover:The evolution of social trends shaping brand strategy in 2026A strategic framework for building genuine employee advocacyHow to drive real brand growth through your people not just your paid channelsEffective content experimentation strategies that actually move the needleWhy YouTube is the deepest, most underrated content channel for brand buildingThe trends smart brands are already preparing for in 2026/2027CHAPTERS00:00 Episode Trailer 01:30 Meet Grace Andrews02:23 2024 Trend Check 06:52 Employee Advocacy Basics09:20 Building The Employees Advocacy Infrastructure14:52 Ownership And Founder Role17:11 Incentivising Employee Advocacy19:22 Building A Content Experimentation System22:29Dummy Social Channels for Safe Testing24:09 Case Study of the Shameless Network28:48 YouTube vs Social Scrolling31:29 Where YouTube Fits into Teams33:48 Low Lift YouTube for Brands35:30 Future Creator Brand PartnershipsWhether you're a founder, marketing lead, or brand strategist — this conversation will change how you think about where your next wave of growth actually comes from.🔔 Subscribe to Building Brand Advocacy for weekly conversations with the people reshaping how brands grow.CONNECT WITH GRACEInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/graceandrewsss/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@graceandrewsssTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@graceandrews7FOLLOW USVerity: https://www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
Transcribe →Why more brands should become entertainment first | The Red Bull Strategy
Apr 800:06:11Tap to summarizeIn this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we're unpacking the seismic shift happening in marketing right now: is branded entertainment replacing paid ads? We dig into why the smartest brands are investing in long-form content, storytelling, and entertainment-led campaigns, and how this changes everything from team structure to ROI measurement.What we cover:Should brands have Global or local social media accountsThe perfect niche to scale strategy Branded entertainment vs paid adsThe Redbull playbookWhether you're a founder, a marketing lead, or a brand builder trying to do more with less — this is the episode that reframes where your budget should actually be going.🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH PAUL & VERITYPaul: www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/Verity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/FOLLOW USPaul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulkarcher/Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
Transcribe →Is Community The New Influencer? Founder of CLIQ Community App
Apr 100:48:11Tap to summarizeAre communities replacing influencers? In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, Paul sits down with Nicola Gunby, co-founder of CLIQ, to talk about why the brands winning right now aren't chasing reach, they're building belonging.We go deep on the concept of the 'third space' and why it might be the most underutilised tool in your brand's growth strategy right now.In this episode we cover:The journey behind CLIQ and why Nicola built itWhat 'third space' communities are and why they matter for brandsWhat it actually takes to build real, lasting community (it's not what you think)How brands can use CLIQ as a community-building toolFrameworks for measuring community impact — beyond vanity metricsOnline vs IRL: which builds deeper brand loyalty?This one is essential listening if you're a CMO or marketing lead questioning where influencer budgets should actually go in 2025.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction04:29 Community as the Third Place08:19 Where Brands Go Wrong with Community13:59 Cliq Brand Case Studies 19:21 Measuring Community ROI26:17 Measuring Community Event Demand28:30 Tap Into Existing Communities29:40 Samsung Community Case Study35:17 Online vs In Person Community 37:34 Sub Communities Strategy41:40 Geo Local Community44:18 Cringe Or Community🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH NICOLAInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolargunby/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicola-gunby/CLIQ: https://www.instagram.com/findyourcliq/
Transcribe →Why Every Brand Should Think Like a Creator | Sidemen's Manager Reveals All
Mar 2500:44:23Tap to summarizeIs influencer marketing dead? Jordan Schwarzenberger, the man behind the Sidemen's evolution from creators to a multi-million pound enterprise, thinks brands have got content eco-systems wrong. In this episode of Building Brand Advocacy, we break down why the smartest brands are ditching traditional influencer marketing and becoming organic content engines instead.Jordan reveals the exact content strategy that scaled the Sidemen from a YouTube group into a business empire and how any brand can steal from the creator economy strategy. We go deep on building a content hemisphere, why entertainment-first marketing beats ads, and how to turn community into customers through brand advocacy.In this episode we cover:Sidemen evolution from creators to an enterprise business.The opportunity for brands to become content engines.Why influencer marketing is dead.Why brands and 10 years behind in content and how to create a solution to get ahead.Whether you're a CMO, marketer or brand founder, this episode is your blueprint for building a content marketing strategy that actually compounds.CHAPTERS00:00 Introduction02:38 Building the LADBible Agency07:16 Scaling The Sidemen Businesses11:16 Defining A Content Infrastructure12:27 Side Plus Membership Model17:27 How Brands Should Be Working With Creators20:23 End Of The Transactional Influencer Model 23:04 Discovery IS Replacing Followers26:07 The Influencer Economy Collapse28:33 Traditional Campaigns Are Dead30:04 Monoculture To Micro Communities38:24 The CMO Playbook 41:40 Contribution Marketing To Serve Then Sell🔔 New episodes every Wednesday — subscribe so you never miss an episode.CONNECT WITH JORDANLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jordanschwarzenberger/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jordanschwarz/TiKTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@jordanschwarzenbergerFOLLOW USVerity: www.linkedin.com/in/verityhurd/Subscribe: www.youtube.com/@buildingbrandadvocacyInstagram: www.instagram.com/building_brand_advocacyTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@building.brand.advocacy
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