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Christina Aguilera: Getting Dirty & Talking Sex (FBF)
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Christina Aguilera joins Call Her Daddy for her first ever podcast interview. We all know her from her countless hit songs and music videos, but Christina shares what was actually going on in her life behind the scenes as she gained international fame. She speaks about growing up in an abusive household and becoming the caretaker of her family at a young age. Christina opens up and discusses insecurities, comparison and feelings of not being good enough. Let’s get dirty and talk about sex because Xtina isn’t here to hold back. Christina reveals her best skill in the bedroom, favorite sex position, tells a wild story of nearly getting caught on a plane and more. This episode discusses adult subject matter, including descriptions of domestic violence, and is intended for adult consumption only. Listener discretion is advised. If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence in any form, help is available. The National Domestic Violence Hotline provides free, confidential ...
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Taylor Sheridan
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Alex Cooper
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father Alex Cooper.
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Christina Aguilera
With call her daddy.
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Alex Cooper
Christina Aguilera, welcome to call her daddy.
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Christina Aguilera
Hi.
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Alex Cooper
I'm staring at your nails.
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Christina Aguilera
Oh, yes.
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Alex Cooper
What's happening?
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Christina Aguilera
They're so fun, you know, they're, you know, it's open to interpretation.
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Alex Cooper
Is that a vagina?
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Christina Aguilera
It could be a vagina, it could be lips, but two in the same. Both pleasure points, you know, and then on the. And then there's an actual mouth on the, you know, and tongue on the.
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Alex Cooper
I mean, this couldn't be more appropriate for a call her daddy episode. Casual Christina Aguilera is like, it could be lips. It could be my pussy lips. God bless you all up for interpretation.
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Christina Aguilera
It's amazing.
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Alex Cooper
I need to gas you up for a second, okay. Because just in case anyone fucking forgot, you are a seven time Grammy award winning singer, songwriter, you have sold more than 75 million records worldwide. No big fucking deal. You're an international pop icon, voice of a generation, fiance, mother, chief, brand advisor and co founder of playground. And this is your first ever podcast and you chose caller daddy and I am so fucking honored. I'm so honored, dude. I can't believe when I heard you'd never done a podcast, I was like, sit down, baby girl, let's go.
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Christina Aguilera
I said yes to you because I've seen you pop up on social media, which didn't exist when I was coming up in this business. And, you know, I've been doing this since I was like six or seven, basically, so. But you feel safe and I always. I appreciate that, you know, because I've been through the gamut of a lot of interviews and people that, you know, I grew up at a time where it was like appropriate to be inappropriate and ask, you know, crazy things. But I always feel it's never like the most intelligent way to go because when you make someone feel safe, they want to open up more and you always do. And you're so pretty, by the way.
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Alex Cooper
Oh, my God.
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Christina Aguilera
Right back at you.
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Alex Cooper
No, I really appreciate that because I agree. I think that's what I want to talk to you a little bit about today is just like, your journey has been so public and you've been in front of people for so many years that it's like, I almost feel like people feel like they deserve a piece of you. Like, you're a piece of the public. And I think it's important to sit down and, like, humanize people in those situations, because it's like, you're a human being. You have feelings, You've gone through shit.
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Christina Aguilera
Yes.
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Alex Cooper
You're also, like, the queen of reinvention. You have had so many fucking eras. It's, like, iconic, iconic, iconic. Aside from, like, the present moment, what is your most favorite era of your own?
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Christina Aguilera
I mean, it's gotta be probably stripped and dirty and beautiful and fighter can't hold us down. You know, it was the time when I was turning, you know, I was 20, 21. I'd already gotten my foot in the door, and my first album was successful, but it was still very, like, play by the rules and, you know, very given a, you know, set by, you know, label. Very label driven. And so after that, I was like, I have to do songs that mean something to me and are valid to who I am and being fearless and talking about anything, and that includes sexuality. I felt that there was a lot of shame and fear around the subject. And especially as a woman, we're raised with a lot of stigma. There's a lot of. It's so layered, and it's tough to be a woman. So I wanted to really be. Be who I was and make it a safe space for, you know, everyone to feel good and make it a conversation.
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Alex Cooper
That era of yours, for women in general. But it's also so funny. We can look back on it. But I know there was pushback during that era, which we'll talk about, because it's so funny. Like, now it's like, oh, go off, Christina. But it's also, like, crazy to then read the tabloids back then.
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Christina Aguilera
Oh, 100%.
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Alex Cooper
Well, first, how does it feel? Like, the amount of people that still recreate your outfits, whether it was red carpet music videos, like, it's insane. Every fucking Halloween. It's like, Christina everywhere. How does that feel? That that's still so powerful in people's minds?
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Christina Aguilera
It's incredible. I love it so much just because, you know, it now it's celebrated and it feels good, and even the people that, you know, got it then. But there was a lot of pushback. There was a lot of, you know, double standards. With it. And there was a lot of, you know, because I went on tour with, you know, Justin, we did the Strip Justified tour, and there were things where I was just like, why is it okay for him and not okay for me? You know what I mean? So it was just like I was constantly pushing back and my way. I mean, it was so inappropriate sometimes the things that were asked about that.
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Alex Cooper
Era, it's so crazy to me. And again, I agree with you. Like, that comparison of like a man doing the same thing, which we'll get into because it's like I'm doing the same thing and yet I'm being called a slut. And like, he's like the boy next door.
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Christina Aguilera
Daddy Gang, ever since I started Call.
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Alex Cooper
Her Daddy, I have really been inspired.
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Christina Aguilera
By the ability to be an entrepreneur and to expand outside of the podcast. Podcast or even within the podcast, right? Like, I sell merchandise that is directly correlated to the group of amazing community that we have built here on Call Her Daddy. And a huge, huge part of me being able to expand in an entrepreneurial way is Shopify. Shopify is a commerce platform that allows you to start, grow and manage a business. It is the one commerce platform behind the big brands you know and love, including Caller Daddy. So, Daddy gang, if you are an entrepreneur, you are trying to grow your business, you are trying to start a business. Here is my number one tip. Get onto Shopify because you do not need to be doing all of the backend. Shopify basically operates as your back office, replacing the need for a full staff to oversee your operations. Like when I am selling my merchandise, Shopify is the leading cause of how I am basically able to make that happen and to get sweatshirts and sweatpants into your hands. There's a lot of themes that you can choose from and Shopify's easy to use. Drag and drop editor can build your store so it's unique and it really looks like yours. You can customize it, you can make it your own.
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Alex Cooper
The point is, Daddy Gang, when you're.
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Christina Aguilera
An entrepreneur, all of it feels like it's falling on you. It is constantly so much pressure. And my big, big, big piece of advice today for you is it is time to build your brand. Head to shopify.com daddy to see how easy it is to start your business today. Whether it's for merch products or the next best idea, head to shopify.com daddy so you can start your empire. Call Her Daddy is brought to you by Better Help. Okay, Daddy Gang, I have to take a minute and thank My therapist. I have had such an incredible journey with my therapist, and she has been truly so incredible, and she's changed my life. But this is the month of gratitude and also thanks. Okay? And there's one person that I don't think we thank enough, which is ourselves. Sometimes it is hard to remind ourselves that we're trying our best to make sense of everything in this crazy world. It is not easy. And here's a reminder to send some thanks to the people in your life, including yourself. Daddy Gang. If you're thinking of starting therapy, give BetterHelp a try. It is entirely online, designed to be convenient, flexible, and suited to your schedule. Just fill out a brief questionnaire to get matched with a licensed therapist and switch therapists anytime for no additional charge. Let the gratitude flow with BetterHelp. Visit betterhelp.com daddy today to get 10% off your first month. That's BetterHelp. H L P.com Daddy let's go back.
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Alex Cooper
To the first time that you stepped on a stage. You were nine years old, competing on the show Star Search. Whose idea was it for you to do a show like that?
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Christina Aguilera
I was at that time raised by my mom and my grandma. So strong women. And my grandma, specifically really was so proud and really pushed it to be taken seriously as something to be professional. Cause singing always just came to me as, like, this release. I grew up in a chaotic upbringing as a very young child and always kind of feeling like a protector and all that, and always felt isolated sort of in my position, in my situation. And so singing, it was a sound of music that first inspired me to sing. And from then, I just, you know, it was like just a release and a form of expression for me before I even understood what that meant. And then whenever my parents got divorced, moved in with my grandma, my grandma was like, you know, this could. This could be something.
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Alex Cooper
And it's so crazy that you're like, I just saw it as, like, a release where I was using, like. And meanwhile, we're like, we see you as one of the most truly talented singers of period, point blank, like, hit notes that no one can. But you kind of mentioned your childhood. And again, I think something in media is like, we see this version of you that's so put together, and it's like, oh, it's Christina Aguilera. She has money. She has fame. You mentioned that you kind of grew up in an abusive household. But do you remember, like, the first moment you realize, like, this is unsafe or something was wrong?
- [10:25]
Christina Aguilera
Fear, you know, you have to Listen to your body. And, you know, fear is something that, you know, you innately feel, you know, so right then and there, you know, something doesn't feel good and it's not right. And then, you know, having so much compassion for my mother and seeing, you know, when you see someone being hurt, someone you love. Whew. Yeah, that, you know, I still, you know, at 42, I'm still affected by this. It's under the surface. Trauma never leaves you. You just figure out ways to try and heal it. And to me, it's therapeutic to speak about it. And I saw my mom, you know, go through so much that I think that instilled a level of purpose for me in the sense of I always want to try and empower other people and people in situations where they feel voiceless and unheard, and I just have such a deep rooted need to try and use my voice, and I would later discover and understand what that meant to me. But it never leaves you. And you're triggered when you see movies, when I, you know, I just immediately, you go to that place, you know, and I've done a lot of healing and a lot of growth and releasing, you know, a lot of anger comes with that, A lot of shame comes with that. But, you know, it takes a lot for a woman to leave those situations as well. And my heart goes out because some of them don't leave them. And, you know, and that could vary in a lot of ways. You know, sometimes it's financial, sometimes it's fear of authorities not helping. And then it getting worse or, you know, sometimes there, you know, sometimes it feels like there's no way out. But you, you know, my mom, luckily, you know, she really. We would do these drives from, at the time, it was the last straw, from Jersey to my grandma's in Pittsburgh. And we would just do these nightly, just me, her and my little sister, and we would just like do the night drive. But, you know, all of that, it stays with you, but it's become a part of what's important to me is my message.
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Alex Cooper
When you say you would do these drives, was it while your mom had.
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Christina Aguilera
Talked about that before? Yeah, yeah, five minutes.
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Alex Cooper
No, but I'm like, holy fuck. Like, was that when you were still. Your mom hadn't left your dad yet, but you were like. Or had they left?
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Christina Aguilera
There was some back and forth. There's some back. There's, you know, there's. There was some back and forth. There's always the tug of like, I'm never gonna do it again. You know, there's. There's sweet talking involved. There's a lot of shame also in, like, well, why don't you just leave? It is so much more complicated than that. And it's a mental breakdown of self esteem and you start to believe someone else's narrative and verbal abuse to you. And self esteem is something that can break down so easily, even to the most powerful woman executive. It doesn't matter what you do. We can go on stage and have these larger than life Personas, but all it takes is for you to believe someone's negative narrative about you once it's in there and it's working its way in. That's why I'm like, so adamant with my daughter. I'm just like, first time somebody ever hits you, the first time somebody makes you feel not right about yourself. Oh, girl, I'm so protective, mama bear.
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Alex Cooper
But as you should be. Because like, you said, like, you have that trauma in you that like, you're like, I watch a fucking movie and I can feel it. And I love what you said about the concept of when someone says, why don't you just leave? When people say that, it's such an ignorant statement that, like, pisses me off. I had a loved one that was in an abusive relationship, and you're like, it's so much more fucking complex. But to leave. Do you remember the moment that was like, your mom was like, we're out.
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Christina Aguilera
Yes, officially, when the abuse started to really turn onto me, you know, we were living in Japan for like three years, so we were super isolated, which is where I started singing. And looking back, that's where I started to kind of. I would, like, sing out of this Window. I have, like, a thing about, like, windows. And like, they just. When you're feeling just, you know, trapped. I don't know, there's something about the representation of a window and just like, there's hope on the other side, you know? And so that's where I started singing these songs from, like the Sound of Music and just to myself. And just that image I'll always remember. It's like a core memory of just like, there's like something on the other side. There's like a bigger world, there's a bigger purpose. I felt it as a. At a really young age. But yes, it was like a matter of things. And like, you're in a foreign country where. My dad was in the army, so we're on an army base. I mean, in a situation like that too, abuse runs rampant. You know, the walls are Paper thin, you know, where we're living. And you can hear abuse just happening on the other side of the wall. You can hear. I mean, you know, it's terrifying. And it's like all you want to do is help, but a lot of times, even when you call the authorities, you don't get the help that you. You need. And then the door shuts and you're with your abuser again. So it's so important to try and research all you can, speak to people that you can trust and really, you know, try and get yourself out of these situations because, you know, worst case scenario, you won't, you know, live to tell the story about it.
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Alex Cooper
Was it hard for your mother to, as a single mother, take care of you and your sister? Like, then you started making money? Were you kind of providing for your family? Yes, yes, sweetheart, yes.
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Christina Aguilera
Still am. But you know what? In that, in this role, too, it comes with responsibility. And responsibility that, you know, I know is. Is destined for me. And I take on, and I take it on, you know. Well, when you're in those situations, you grow up really fast and you become like an immediate caretaker and protector of the person that's being hurt. And so, yeah, this is just like, kind of like my role.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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All my dogs are rescues. Like, you know, I'm just that person.
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Alex Cooper
Your mother, Your mother. I think back and I'm like 12 years old. You join the Mickey Mouse Club, Britney, Justin. And I'm thinking about, like, how wild that time must have been for your life. What do you remember, like, learning at 12 about the industry at that time?
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Christina Aguilera
It's a work ethic, you know, it teaches you. Work ethic. You're given a schedule, you know, where. Where you are on a call sheet, you know, like, it's. It's very disciplined. And you either built for that or you're not, you know, and it's a. It's something that you realize very quickly if, you know, you're cut out for that kind of lifestyle. It's hectic, it's chaotic. It's go, go, go. It's on the run. And that only builds, you know, the more you create. And I have to say, and my mom would always say this too, you know, she wasn't like your typical. Like, I would be around these kids who were just, like, really forced to do this, you know, and my heart would break for them. And my mom would be like, what is wrong with her? Like, you know, because you see these mothers and the kid doesn't even want to do it. But it was just, this is what I was born to do. So it was something that we really knew. And I pushed, you know, for the performances to happen again, like, but just in the most, I think, organic way to start. Just like, because I loved it.
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Alex Cooper
Yeah.
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Christina Aguilera
And for the first time, I was around a bunch of other kids who really loved it too. Like, it was just, you know, born performers.
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Alex Cooper
Right.
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Christina Aguilera
And it was really cool to feel that energy because, you know, coming up in school, in the town that I grew up, it wasn't really like, you know, it's a sports town, you know, and that kind of thing was very celebrated. But like arts and creativity and whatnot, you have that in Pittsburgh, but yeah, I just didn't have a lot of kids that truly love doing that. And those kids were just how talented everyone was. Ryan Gosling, like, you know, Keri Russell, there was just so many people that it was just like, wow, what a. What a casting agent. You know, to get everybody together.
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Alex Cooper
I do relate to like feeling a little bit like you're out of place where you grew up. And it only exacerbates the feeling of like wanting to get out and wanting to find like minded people. But it's so interesting also hearing you talk because it's like, it feels like you were almost made to have to grow up very quickly in. In many ways where like your ambition immediately led you to working at a young age, your family situation. You had to grow up quickly. Is there anything that you wish that you could have done more as like a child and in your. In your younger life that you didn't really get to have a normal childhood?
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Christina Aguilera
That's a good question. In really thinking about it, probably. No, like, I love my life. No, sometimes I would, you know, because I was working a lot. But it's. I wanted to go, you know, I wanted to, you know. You know, I wanted to. I wanted to work. You know, I've always operated on like fight or flight, you know, in many different ways. And the more successful you are, of course more is going to come with that. That's very demanding and very scrutinizing.
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Alex Cooper
Do you think, though, there is the part of you that was really ambitious.
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Christina Aguilera
Yes.
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Alex Cooper
And then naturally, like, we are who we are from like our childhood and nature versus nurture. Like when you say like you were always running, wanting to go, do you. Have you connected that at all to also, like your childhood?
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Christina Aguilera
It could have been. I haven't really dissected that, that part, but I always dreamt really big, you know, I always jumped really big and. And yeah, it could be looking for some sort of maybe escapism. I mean, I think half the people that are in this business where we need, you know, it sucks because we're the most sensitive people on the planet, yet we're looking for, like, you know, but we have this, like, you know, alter ego that we have to turn on to get the work done and to. And to, you know, follow a schedule. But also that makes us so vulnerable. Totally in needing some kind of weird validation.
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Alex Cooper
Totally, totally. Your breakout solo, Genie in a Bottle, I was going to say top the charts. That's like a fudgeing understatement. It took over the world. What do you remember about the day that that song was released?
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Christina Aguilera
I was still in new. I was living. I was on my own pretty early to trying to get a record deal. And so I was like, you know, house hopping from, like, odd places from my manager's house at the time to another manager. Like, it was very odd and weird. And I would again, mama bear like, never with my daughter. Like, I would be so, like, protective and overseeing all that, which is a whole other story. But in New York, yeah, was where I started hearing it on the radio for the first time. So the album wasn't completely done and out. And I was just. Remember hearing that and I was just like, oh, my God. And it took me back to, like, driving around the car in Pittsburgh and only hoping that I would, like, hear my song one day on the radio and just dreaming about it again. Big dreamer, Sagittarius, very like, you know, sky's the limit and we're going to do this. So it was the most amazing feeling in the world.
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Alex Cooper
Yeah. And I think again, it's almost like dissecting, like, what everyone was watching in the world was like Jeannie in a Bottle, Christina Aguilera, like this hot, amazing, talented young woman. Then you're saying, like, oh, I'm like, living with managers. I'm like, kind of in sketchy situations where the world probably wouldn't even fucking fathom that Christina Aguilera wasn't, like, set up and all good. But what were you emotionally going through at that time?
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Christina Aguilera
Oh, man, that's a loaded question. What was I emotionally going through at that time? I mean, looking back, I probably. I didn't have much time to even think about anything. I was given the schedule. I was told what to do, you know, told what to do. My true opinion didn't really matter from everything, you know, Like, I remember, like, you know, being Told what to wear, what the image was gonna be, and, you know, not feeling super comfortable. That's also the product of a kid being raised in the business too, you know, growing up. And, like, you're constantly being told by adults and mainly men, you know how and what to be. And you're hearing conversations, too, of what they. Their ideal, you know, woman should be and look like. And so at a young, impressionable age, like, I just remember it was just so you take certain things on and then you have to, like, reprogram to think for yourself and what makes sense for you. So it's a lot, you know, to take on. So your dreams are coming true, but you're not quite getting to be the person that you want to be and telling the stories you want to tell.
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Alex Cooper
It's, like, so helpful.
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Christina Aguilera
Through all that for nothing.
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Alex Cooper
No, but straight up, I will be real with you. It's. I really think it's so helpful to hear you talk about this because I remember myself sitting at home with my older sister watching these videos and to know that, like, this first era, not to take anything away from it, but, like, that wasn't fully you. Like, that was like a lot of men in a room constructing, like, let's have her hair look like this, and let's, like, have her wear this, which I get is part of the industry. But also, then my, like, heart goes out for baby Christina because I'm like that age for a young woman to already be dealing with, like, insecurities and figuring yourself out, and then to have men be like, we need this, this, this. You were, like, exposed to such a different level of criticism and someone being so fixated on your looks, like, how did that affect your self worth?
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Christina Aguilera
I mean, it's a lot. I mean, you could only imagine it's. It's difficult enough growing up and trying to figure it out away from the camera, but being, you know, in front of it and, you know, scrutinized and picked apart and judged and. And everybody's got a different opinion. That's the one thing I learned really early on is like, whoa, no matter what I do, like, somebody's going to be anti it and somebody's not going to be happy with it. And I was like. And I'd always diaed and journaled and, like, I always had this, thank God, this core sense of myself and what I wanted, my purposes and my messages to do and. And to help. And that's what I feel like, kept me riding that core line of, like, bringing me back to real Purpose and to be authentic with what I did.
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Alex Cooper
Then you decided, fuck this, I'm going to add my twist and add actually Christina into the mix of who I am and what I want to be. And you came out with the dirty music video, which is so fucking iconic. I was watching it this morning, just being like, I. Every time. Every time, I just get excited to watch it. But at the time, the press pinned you as this bad girl. They were slut shaming you. There were literally celebrities coming out being like, God damn. Like, she, like, looks like a whore. She looks like a slut. Which is so fucking crazy because as I was watching it, rewatching it this morning, I was like, it's such a major celebration of the female body and sexuality. How do you remember breaking away from what everyone wanted you to do and making this happen? Slash. Then how did those comments affect you once you released it?
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Christina Aguilera
Yeah. So many things popping through my mind.
- [26:41]
Alex Cooper
Yeah, yeah, let's go.
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Christina Aguilera
10 answers in there that I could think of. But, yes, I was actually surprised because, like, I was so in my zone of just, like, expressing and creating this album and just truly trying to make every facet of it speak of myself as a woman. And I didn't want to fit a box of, like, I'm sweet and vulnerable and demure, and I'm going to do the programmed pop format, but I'm not any particular one thing or one brand. And that's what I did not like about the business is the fact that they immediately try to box you and label it so that it's easier for them to understand. But it was hard, you know, being a kid and being like, oh, my God, I'm just trying to live my life. I'm 21. I'm having fun. Like, these were my college years, right? You know, this was my moment. Except everybody could see it. But I was happy, you know, I'm an artist. At the end of the day, I. You know how this is how I express myself, you know, And I wasn't just coming with Dirty, you know, Then we came with Beautiful, and then we came with Fighter, which was representation kind of, you know, my past and going against the grain of people that I felt really wronged me. Because that's another thing you. You know, people steal from you, people that are so close to you. I remember being so devastated about people that I. That really disappointed me to my core that I was like, oh, wow. Like, I feel really alone, you know, like, it was it really like. And then you want to retreat, and then you want to get defense mechanisms up, and then you don't trust anyone. Like, as if I didn't already have trust issues, you know, from my childhood.
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Alex Cooper
I was about to say, like, layers.
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Christina Aguilera
On layers on layers. But in any case, you know, it's part of my journey. It's what I was meant to go through. And honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way, because had I not gone through all these things, I wouldn't sing the way I do. I wouldn't create the way I do. I wouldn't write the way I do. I was like a sponge. I just, like, took it all in. And when I was ready to just be like, no more. I don't care. And I remember being quoted saying, you know, I don't care. This next record, if I sell one record or one million, like, all the cool, like, accolades and stuff, that's amazing, I'm grateful. But at the end of the day, I have to, like, sit with myself and feel like I'm contributing a bigger thing to the world than just a pop song and a chart and an award. Like, it's deeper than that to me. And that's what I always. And that's what I set out to do with Stripped. And I was able to do it, thank God, you know, after getting my foot in the door. But I was gonna then play by my own rules and represent the kind of woman that I wanted to be.
- [29:38]
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- [31:17]
Alex Cooper
I'm just, like, sitting here a little, not in shock, but I will say, like, you truly never know what you're gonna get when someone walks in a door. And I'm think picturing Christina Aguilera, like, grew up obsessing over you had posters like, you're so normal. I don't know where I would be if, like, at this age I started working, and at this age, I'm living with creepy managers. And then this age, people are stealing from you and, like, to see. See, like, you sitting here and having such, like, a grasp on what happened to you. But every statement, you constantly are like, but I'm grateful. And, like, I have perspective. And, like, it's really cool to see how you've kind of taken ownership of what you can. Don't give any of those bastards, like, any fucking out, though. I look back at articles and I feel like there were so many comments on your. You're like, oh, the articles, you're like, sweetie, which ones? Take a sip. Like, is there alcohol here? No. Were you happy being known as the tiny girl with the big voice? Like, how did you feel about your body as a young woman that the world is commenting on your body?
- [32:27]
Christina Aguilera
It was crazy growing up. And then, yeah, hearing people talk about, I mean, everything. Everything. It's. It's, you know, having opinions on everything. Your looks, your. Your voice, your. Your style, your. It's everything.
- [32:39]
Alex Cooper
Back then, you also exuded this, like, confidence sexually, like, on stage and. And in your. Your music and for the world. We were all like, oh, my God, Like, I want to be like her. Like, she's so sexy and beautiful and smart and talented. How did you feel about your sexuality back then?
- [32:56]
Christina Aguilera
I wanted to always own it, you know, it was important to me. I didn't. I think also, you know, the older I got and the more. And by that time, you know, for most people that would maybe be in your, like, 30s, to have that mindset of, like, I'm gonna do things my way. And, you know, I mean, I'd grown up with so many opinions that I was just like, I'm not going to play by your rules. I'm not going to see myself as you see me. I'm going to own my sexuality for myself. Sexuality is a beautiful thing, and we need to take care of it as women. We need to really make sure that we prioritize it and ourselves and what it means to us, because every woman is different. And I never wanted to also insert the fact that I was so comfortable with my sexuality. Like, yeah, like, we're gonna dance it. We're gonna do. You know what I mean? Like, all this stuff. I never wanted to also, you know, even though it did anyway, make some women, like, you know, uncomfortable with what I was doing. But I never wanted to make it, like, you know, you have to be this way, too. Like, everyone has their different comfort zone with it. And just because I want to express myself this way, like, let. Again, let people live totally. Like, let everybody own it the way they need to own it. Let's talk about it, you know, and. And back then, you know, that's what's cool about what you do. What you do is we're able to have these open conversations now. Now I see women more than ever talking to each other, and it's like, okay. And so accessible with our phones and, like, social media. That's the positive of it. And everything is that we get to, like, have more accessibility.
- [34:30]
Alex Cooper
Totally.
- [34:30]
Christina Aguilera
Other.
- [34:31]
Alex Cooper
Totally.
- [34:31]
Christina Aguilera
And be like, does this happen to you, too?
- [34:33]
Alex Cooper
Right? Like, are we on the same page, girl? Like, totally.
- [34:36]
Christina Aguilera
But I didn't have that back then, so, yes, it was. It was very hard and very terrifying. And I took so much personal. I really did. And then you have people in this situation. This is why you're my first podcast. Because you have. You know, you're so used to creating these, like, certain walls and defense mechanisms because you're just like, people are baiting you. And then you're like, wait, I didn't say that. And I didn't say it like that.
- [34:57]
Alex Cooper
Right.
- [34:57]
Christina Aguilera
You know how it is.
- [34:58]
Alex Cooper
No, dude, you're so right. Because I feel like your era of coming up, it was, like, extra hard.
- [35:04]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah.
- [35:05]
Alex Cooper
Paparazzi, tabloids. I'm like, holy shit. Like, people so fixated on every single move. What was dating like for you? Wow. What was your dating life like as you were, like, coming up in your career, like, late teens?
- [35:22]
Christina Aguilera
I didn't really have time for that. But I did. I always went for things that I would feel safe about. Like, you know, we'd have our. You know, you'd travel, and you'd meet certain people. But I was. It's so funny that I gave this Persona because I probably was, like, the last person to lose my virginity. And, like, you know, I just. I don't know. It was something that was for me. You know what I mean? And that's, I guess, why my messages went the way they did, too, is because I owned it first, maybe. But it doesn't matter how it goes down as long as you find your way and your path with being comfortable with yourself. But we always get, like, off topic.
- [36:09]
Alex Cooper
When did you lose your virginity?
- [36:11]
Christina Aguilera
Bring me back, girl.
- [36:11]
Alex Cooper
Tell us.
- [36:12]
Christina Aguilera
It was later than you would think.
- [36:13]
Alex Cooper
Okay.
- [36:13]
Christina Aguilera
You know, given the girl that was doing dirty and all this, you know? But, yeah, it's just. It's more of a funny thing looking back, where it's just, like, people thought probably, like, you were popping off, but, yeah, it was. I had. You know, I had certain dancers that were, like, close quarter because you have to, like, you know, you're traveling a lot, and there's. You're. You have accessibility to only so many things. So, you know, it is what it is. And then, you know, like, I mean, yeah, a lot of things that I'm just like, yeah, maybe I should have realized he wasn't looking at me. He wasn't interested in me. You know, like, he's looking at him. No, Christina, there's a lot of things, you know, that I'm just like, oh, sad. Like, I feel bad for, like, my younger self. Like, oh, sad.
- [37:04]
Alex Cooper
I love you, little PR Trained. You're like. And maybe a dancer that was more into men, and I should have seen. So, okay, so you, like, you had an interesting experience despite being such an icon. I was looking. I'm like, you don't have too crazy of, like, a celebrity roster attached to your name? And My question is, Ms. Aguilera, was that actually because that was intentional, or were you just really good at keeping things hidden and a little secret that we didn't know about?
- [37:33]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah, I definitely. I've had my experiences, but I also, like. I mean, my life is hectic enough, and, like, this is a very narcissistic industry. And, like, my anxieties couldn't maybe take somebody that did the exact same thing I did and ran around and traveled. It's like, I know how this goes. Like, I'm too. Like, I'm too vulnerable for this I'm too sensitive to, like, be so paranoid. So, like, you know, this business is very demanding. It's a lot. And yeah, I just, you know, I've definitely, like, not been into the celebrity thing.
- [38:13]
Alex Cooper
Right. No, that's really refreshing to hear because it's like, you see some people, like, trying to. You. It's. It's. It's obvious on the Internet, like, oh, this couple is appearing. And it's like, to stay relevant. And I can imagine how obnoxious, like, that word is of, like, being in the industry for so long. It's like, how does the stress of, like, managers and people being like, we need to stay relevant. We need to do this? Like, how does that affect you?
- [38:38]
Christina Aguilera
It's just annoying more than anything else. I don't want to be corny and be like, it's. But it really is to me about intention, you know, and if it. If it doesn't feel right to me, like, I just can't do it. I can't. I have really hard time forcing myself. It wasn't interesting to me. I don't know.
- [38:53]
Alex Cooper
It's so interesting too, because I feel.
- [38:55]
Christina Aguilera
Like the guys next door.
- [38:57]
Alex Cooper
Interesting because, you know, what is so fascinating is, like, did anyone ever try to be like, hey, like, look at these people Doing couples like, this will make your career even crazier.
- [39:08]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah, I've, you know, I've had. I just. Just. If it's not real to me and authentic, I can't do it. You know, I can't force something as personal as that. Totally.
- [39:17]
Alex Cooper
I know you mentioned trust issues. Is there any. Because I don't think a lot of us can fathom the amount of cameras and paparazzi back then. Like, is there any paranoia that has lingered in you?
- [39:30]
Christina Aguilera
Oh, yeah, 100. I mean, it. I went through a bad period at a certain time where even, like, the clicking of the camera, paparazzi, like, like, just was so, like, upsetting to me. I'd, like, have a panic attack. And I know I've heard other celebrities actually say this too. And then you have really horrible stories that happen whenever you. Again, starting to believe a narrative, you know, and then. Yeah, it's a very weird thing, that kind of attention and that kind of. That world. So, yeah, that. That is a part of, too. Why? It's just like, you know, it's very anxiety riding for me.
- [40:10]
Alex Cooper
You know, let's talk a little bit about relationships, and then we're gonna talk about sex first. With relationships. I'm curious because I am currently in therapy and I. I think it's so interesting of, like, we're all trying to undo shit that our parents fucked us up with. It's just the fact I don't care. If you have perfect parents, then you're still up. So it's like, are there any patterns in relationships, previous relationships that you. You now kind of recognize that you had to stop and. And try to break, moving forward? Like, bad patterns?
- [40:45]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah. You know, it's. It's still a process sometimes to really. You have to check yourself too. I think there's accountability in, you know, things that even though you're. They're not your fault, you're still conditioned and programmed in a way of fear and paranoia. And also sometimes not given a good guideline can really mess you up, you know, because then it's like, is this normal? Or is this just like. Or is this something I need to leave the relationship for? Like, I'm so, like, into being like, okay, wait, do I need to be taking this shit right now? Or can I walk or should I walk the fuck away? Like, you know what I mean? Like, what's normal? So it's a constant. I. You know, I believe in therapy, too. The right kind of therapy.
- [41:35]
Alex Cooper
I know that you mentioned you have, like, a collection of diaries that you've kept for, like, 20 some years.
- [41:40]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah.
- [41:41]
Alex Cooper
What's a diary entry that makes you kind of sad for your younger self when you read it?
- [41:49]
Christina Aguilera
I think, just. Yeah. How. How hurt I was because I was so into this being, like, one day I'm gonna. I'm gonna make it and I'm gonna, you know. You know, see myself on MTV and, like, all this stuff. Like, it was just. It was such a dream and coming from such a good place to. All of a sudden you're shook by all the shit that comes with the success and. Yeah, I think it's like. It's sad when I. When I see how. How some, like, press and articles and some interviews that were just so taken out of context or just mean, like, how hurt I was by that. Truly, like, affected and. And then, yeah, it just makes you internalize negative thoughts about yourself and feelings.
- [42:39]
Alex Cooper
If you can share what was something.
- [42:41]
Christina Aguilera
Specific, you know, back then, there was a lot of, like, you know, it was a. It was a different business where there was a lot of, you know, female comparisons and double standards with women. And it was a constant, like, pitting against each other. And, like, it just felt like just punches in the face and it was just, you know. Yeah, it's fucking hard. It was hard to just constantly feel like, you know, you're making music and doing something you love and then, you know, someone spinning something so negative about it. And it was just. It was really hard because sometimes who you were pitted again, you actually genuinely, you know, loved and, like, respected. So it was just like, you know, but again, then you have people, like, baiting you. And do you know what she said about you? Well, you know what I mean? And then you're like, wait, what? You know, so it's just like. And you're too much of a kid to understand, like, what's happening. I hated that shit. You know, like, that's why also, like, now I'm just so excited to see, you know, more, you know, exposed women, supporting women, because now you're cutting through the middleman a lot more, which is really, really nice.
- [43:59]
Yeah.
- [43:59]
Alex Cooper
I think it clearly worked for the tabloids to have characters and ideas of, if we pit this person against this person, this is going to be. This is going to sell through. Because these are two huge names or three huge names or this, like, it's so insane. And you're. But then it's like, I'm an individual. Why can't I just be Christina Aguilera, this incredible singer, and leave it at that, and then let everyone also have their own careers? Because there's so many other people thriving. And that must have been very.
- [44:28]
Christina Aguilera
I remember there was. Yeah. A headline that was, like, comparing me with another artist. And it was like, it's like, roe versus Wade. Pick a side. You know? And I was like, oh, my God, you're so dramatic. Like, you're like, it's not that serious, even really understand what that meant. So I was like, you could just understand the level of, like, how young I was being thrust into this world. That was like, wait, what are you saying? What are you saying, dude?
- [44:55]
Alex Cooper
The pettiness to compare people to Roe v. Wade. Like, let's tone it down a notch. TMZ or whoever the fuck. You know what I mean?
- [45:06]
Christina Aguilera
Paper. It wasn't even. Even like. Yeah, it was too much. It was too much.
- [45:11]
Alex Cooper
Okay. I love to ask people this because it does give insight. What is your biggest insecurity?
- [45:19]
Christina Aguilera
Girl? Girl, what is my biggest insecurity? Oh, my God. I would. I really wasn't prepared for that question. I don't know. I could think of. I mean, every. I don't know, every day it's something different. It's a part of you. Like, what is my biggest insecurity? Biggest insecurity. I think we all have this where we just don't feel good enough. I don't know, in every, in every sense, you know, I think we can all pick different parts of ourselves and pick ourselves apart for forever. But I really, it's, it's a, it's something you have to train yourself against.
- [46:07]
Alex Cooper
When you say you're not good enough, take a sip, she's coming back. No, but when you say you're not.
- [46:18]
Christina Aguilera
Good enough, everything like, you know, I mean, I think this business operates like a business, you know, and it's a whole self worth thing and then image. Yeah, I've been through the gamut of, you know, people growing up in this business. They're going to see you as a teenager, a kid, they're going to see you as a young woman coming into your body and expressing yourself. They're going to see you as a grown woman, they're going to see you be pregnant. They're going to see you go through the gamut of different places and stages of your life where you're different kind of weights. And you know, we all go through these things as women in general. But yeah, it's so hard to just be inundated with different opinions and everybody has different standards for what they want. But again, women like embracing this now more than ever.
- [47:04]
Alex Cooper
So yeah, not being good enough, I think is the perfect answer that makes sense of just a culmination of this whole interview is like you wanting to be yourself and being in an industry where it's like picking apart every fucking thing you do, whether it's the people you're working with or the media. And it's like it's never good enough. It's never good enough. It's almost like it's never right, never.
- [47:27]
Christina Aguilera
Because everyone has a definition of what good enough means. And then the same people are, that are rating good enough don't feel good about themselves. And so like, where is this all like stemming? So it's cyclical and you have to really, I isolate your perspective because even whenever you know someone's comparing you to someone else, you're like, well wait, should I be comparing, like you start just second guessing yourself. And so yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's tough out there.
- [47:51]
Alex Cooper
It's tough out there. And how we get through that is by having sex.
- [47:56]
Christina Aguilera
That transition.
- [47:57]
Alex Cooper
I'm like, no, let's talk about sex.
- [48:00]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah.
- [48:17]
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- [49:56]
Alex Cooper
What is your favorite part about sex?
- [50:01]
Christina Aguilera
Getting off. I mean, like, but it's not that cut and dry. My favorite part. I love intimacy. See some. It depends. Every person is different. And that's what I love about sexuality. I love getting into it and finding out how everyone operates. You know, how much of a freak are you? How much of a, you know, submissive are you? Like, what is your. What is your playground?
- [50:27]
Alex Cooper
How much of a freak are you? Christina?
- [50:30]
Christina Aguilera
How much perfect are you?
- [50:31]
Alex Cooper
I would, I would say I. Actually, this is a question because I will answer that. I will say I remember my sex in college. I had lost my virginity in high school and I was like, I don't even know what I was supposed to just feel from that. Like, what the fuck just happened? Like, was that supposed to feel good? And then when I got to college, I felt like, oh, I'm like having good sex. No, I fucking wasn't. No, I fucking wasn't. I Thought because I was comparing it to high school sex, which was like literally sandpaper. And it was like awful feeling. So I'm like. Then I think as I started to explore my sexuality more like junior, senior year of college, I started to be more confident and kind of being like, fuck the guy. Like, I'm going to get myself off. And that's when I got a vibrator and I started to use lube. And it's like when you can get yourself off first and you're like, oh, that is what I want to feel every time I'm fucking a guy, a girl, whoever it is. So I would say as I've explored more in the bedroom, I've just naturally become more of a freak because I'm like, I want to feel this. I want to feel this with my partner. I want us to like explore new things together, if that makes sense. So it's been like a gradual progression. But I was like, I wasn't like fucking like great in college and I thought I was like a freak.
- [51:54]
Christina Aguilera
But nobody, you know, nobody is. Nobody knows what they're doing at first. That's why it should feel like exploration and it's okay. But you're so insecure at that age and you see these movies and all that. You just want to have it all figured out right off the bat. Or you're too young to speak up for yourself. And it kills me too, whenever you're grown and you feel too insecure to speak up for yourself when you're not in a relationship that feels safe enough for you to have these conversations or even to compare notes with other women because it's so shameful. But sex is fun. And knowing your body is so important. And you're only going to know your body when you spend time with yourself first so that you even know what to ask from your partner or what you like.
- [52:41]
Alex Cooper
Do you incorporate toys into the bedroom?
- [52:45]
Christina Aguilera
I do. I mean, as you mentioned, the vibrator was a game changer Whenever I was, you know, first exploring myself and you know, first sex store I ever went into. And you know, I was just like, oh, my God. I literally remember even having like this little like pocket size one I could like pack in my bag on an airplane. Like, I was horny, like, you know what I mean? Like, are you getting off on an airplane? I know she's getting excited just talking about it, but we should be. Yes, of course. Are you kidding me? Like, sometimes. Sometimes it's an anxiety thing too. Like a lot of girls, like, when I'm Nervous. Like, I would feel it very early on. Like when I was, like, in school. Like, even as a girl, if, like, I felt nervous about something, I would be like, oh, oh, you're like, oh.
- [53:31]
Alex Cooper
When did you start masturbating? When was the first time you masturbated?
- [53:35]
Christina Aguilera
Oh, my God. When was. Oh, well, I think we all kind of, like, start as little girls. Like, when you rub up against things and it feels good and, you know, like, you know, I think that's also. Whenever it's just like, you have to be like, it's okay. Like, that's for, you know, have your private time. So you're not doing it for, like, company. Like, you just. You have to learn these things. And sometimes we don't have good teachers and that make us feel safe. So that came early on. Yeah, so it was like, you know, some people, I think, have more sensitive areas, and I just. I've always been engaged.
- [54:11]
Alex Cooper
I love it.
- [54:12]
Christina Aguilera
Understanding. There's things happening down there.
- [54:15]
Alex Cooper
Christina is masturbating on planes. She's getting off. She's having the best time of her life. What is your best skill in the bedroom?
- [54:26]
Christina Aguilera
Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Yeah.
- [54:29]
Alex Cooper
Like, where do I begin?
- [54:31]
Christina Aguilera
I mean, hands down, I mean, it's gotta be blowjobs. I mean, I love a blowjob. You know, I'm in a. And I, you know, I know I enjoy it. Like, I had a lot of also, like, male friends who I was always like, and what do you do here? Like, I was literally. I grew up around them, so it's like I know every different part and the sensitive areas. And I like, I literally. I do enjoy it. I hear some women don't like it, but I don't know, man. It's a turn on.
- [55:04]
Alex Cooper
You know, it is because. And I love that you're saying that too, because we're like, we can enjoy ourselves. Get off. There's nothing better than if a guy actually knows how to eat you out. But there's something so hot about pleasuring your partner because that gets me off. I don't want, like, him to not be enjoying it, because I know I'm going to be enjoying myself. Do you have any little tips? Is there any? You're like, I know the areas. Like, what areas?
- [55:26]
Christina Aguilera
Christina, Sexuality is a very, you know, specific thing. So, like, what one guy might like, another one doesn't, you know? Like, there are some guys that don't like their balls being touched or tampered with. There are some guys that like brutal things happening to them. And you Know, Yeah, there's a lot of different levels. You know, that's why it's important to, like, be with a partner where you can really just explore. And there's still a lot more things that I have not explored yet that are on my to do list. And, you know, I think, you know, it's. It's hard when you also have kids. You're trying to keep it guilty. Sometimes it's been like, oh, okay, and you're here. Okay, amazing. So it's a lot of things, but it's something you have to make time for. But, yeah, I love that. And I also, like. I mean, I think there's something to be said after you put in the hard work. I think swallowing is really, you know, a good thing, and it's got a lot of protein. I have to say. I'm a promoter of the swallow. Okay. I, like, I didn't put in that hard work for nothing. You know, we. We went in there, I got tugged and pulled, and, like, you know, there's things happening, you know, maybe gagged, I don't know. But, you know, I mean, hey, whatever your pleasure points are, but it should be fun, you know, as long as you feel good and safe with your partner, whatever your. Your bag is.
- [56:53]
Alex Cooper
But I love you. I love you so much. That was amazing. Okay, top three sex positions.
- [57:02]
Christina Aguilera
Oh, I think. Oh, you're fun. I don't think, you know, like, you're actually safe to talk to. It's not creepy.
- [57:13]
Alex Cooper
Yeah. Like a male journey. Like, Christina, top three. You're like, yeah, like, I don't have sex anymore.
- [57:19]
Christina Aguilera
Definitely a new dawn due day. To be, like, safe about it. It depends on the mood, definitely. I mean, I. I love a lot of positions. Sometimes it's nice, like, early in the morning, like, from your side, from behind. And it's like, there's, like, holding involved and, like, you know, spooning involved. I like. I love to cuddle. I love to feel, like, safe and protected. But then it's like I get too hot, and then I'm like, okay, leave me alone. I just wanted to feel it for a second. I'm good.
- [57:45]
Alex Cooper
But the morning from the side is also so nice because it's like we're half doing it. We're not. But it's like kind of a nice wake up. You can get your vibrator in there.
- [57:55]
Christina Aguilera
Starts being like, oh, oh. And you're pulling. I mean, I like it. The chairs might be on me because.
- [58:02]
Alex Cooper
Then halfway through, you're, like, doing it from the side, and then you, like, kind of flip on your stomach and then it's from behind. The whole thing is nice.
- [58:08]
Christina Aguilera
It's so good. I mean, you know, you don't know where it's gonna go. Sky's the limit. But there's that. Yeah, like, some good, like, doggies sometimes, like, in the shower. There's, you know, I've been. You know, there's been some good times, you know, like, there's, like, this studio soundboard been, you know, been bent over there a couple times. It's. It's fun, you know, Use your imagination, you know, Christina, I love that playing can be fun. We've definitely hid some things under the blankets when the seats are big enough to, like, you know, we've been. You know, I. I can't believe we didn't get caught, like, so many times in so many situations. Like, thank God.
- [58:45]
Alex Cooper
But I have always thought about that. But I feel like I'm too much of, like, a pussy that I was like, fuck. I don't know if I'm gonna be able to pull that off.
- [58:51]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah. You guys.
- [58:52]
Alex Cooper
Are you talking about a private plane, though?
- [58:53]
Christina Aguilera
No, I'm actually on international flights. You know, they turn the light off. Like, the chairs are like. I don't know where you're sitting, but, you know, there's always, like, you know, room for, like, be. Get creative, and, you know, blankets. It's like. It's like the position we just talked about, the little spoon. It's like, oh, I feel safe with my partner here. Like, we're just sleeping together.
- [59:14]
Alex Cooper
The flight attendant's like, ma'am, yeah, yeah.
- [59:16]
Christina Aguilera
No, you gotta wait till everyone's, like, going to sleep. You know what I mean? So, yeah, you gotta. You know, it's setting the mood.
- [59:23]
Alex Cooper
Everyone's like, note to self. Try to find Christina Aguilera on a flight at some point in life and sit next to her. Oh, my God. That's iconic.
- [59:32]
Christina Aguilera
Follow these instructions.
- [59:34]
Alex Cooper
I love how open you are just about all this, because, again, I think something I've tried to do in my show and I love that you are doing is talking about this. It should not be shameful. We should not be embarrassed. Like, we're celebrating the fact that we've been repressed for so many fucking years to even enjoy ourselves, to even acknowledge, like, the lower half of our body and what's going on down there. And I think it's important for women like us to sit here and casually talk about something, because I know how many women are at home being like, if Christina Aguilera can Talk. And she's casually coming out, being like, this is this. Like, it just is. It's an exciting new era, I feel like, for women. And it's like we get to own our shit and be like, fuck you, if you want to call us a slut or whore, whatever. We don't care, because we're not. We're just enjoying ourselves and doing what we should be doing, which is celebrating our bodies and doing the same thing that men have done forever.
- [60:25]
Christina Aguilera
It's true. It's really, really true. I think because of generations of, like, not knowing how to talk about it, being shamed for it, it being like, you know, something that's very, you know, celebrated from a male's point of view and objectified, that we don't know where we stand with it. But now, more than ever, I feel like this generation is, like, having none of it. And we want to talk about it, we want to engage, we want to be educated about it, we want to know what's good for it, and we should. Now's the time for that and making sure. That's why it's like music and lyrics. I had a song called Sex for Breakfast on one of my albums. We've never been shy about things, but this is literally just the next progression for me. And in passing something down to my daughter that she can enjoy and understand. This is nothing to be ashamed of. This is healthy, natural. Put good things on it. You know, vitamin, vitamins for there, vitamins for there.
- [61:22]
Alex Cooper
Okay, talk to me about playground a little bit, because why did you decide to be a part of this?
- [61:28]
Christina Aguilera
Well, I think the authenticity behind what it means to me being always in the forefront, either defending, you know, or celebrating or opening conversations and doors for women to be able to feel safe enough to talk about their sexuality and what that means for them, because, again, everybody is so different, and there's no shame in the game. I just want to really, just now at this point in my life, being a mother who has a daughter who's developing her own relationship with her body and asking me when she sees that time of the month for me, what's a tampon? What does it do? How am I going to approach these conversations and in making her make sure that she feels she's taking care of herself so that she can also engage with a future, healthy relationship, that's sex positive sex is very important. I love the product playground. It's all safe, it's all natural, and it just, you know, feels good. You know, we've explored with this, you know, Safe for you. And it's so pretty. It fits in like the palm. I love it. Put it on your nightstand. It's like your bedside best friend is what I like to call her. And this is a product that's literally good for you and good for your vagina. And why aren't we paying more attention to that for ourselves?
- [62:49]
Alex Cooper
And I love that you're saying, why can't we just walk into stores and be like, I'm gonna buy this for my vagina. I'm gonna buy this for my armpits. It should feel like a whole wellness check that I. I don't think. Also, women feel like lube specifically has had such a negative connotation because, oh, you're so dry. And then a man is like, oh, are you not turned on? And it's like, no, you idiot. That has actually nothing to do with you. Nothing. Like, what a concept. It has nothing to do with you. So I feel like there's still this shame around, like, pulling out lube. And all I can ever say is, like, if you aren't using lube, you're not having the best sex. You could be having point blank. Point blank sex is 10 times better with lube.
- [63:33]
Christina Aguilera
That's a foul percent. And it's like, we wouldn't think of, like, doing things to our face. Like, we moisturize. There's women that do. We do 10 step beauty routines and things we wouldn't think of, like going through a drugstore and not hitting that section, not doing something moisturizing for our hair. Like, this is the epicenter of power. Like, we need to be nurturing and taking care of and celebrating this very important part. It literally. Yeah, it's the star of the show. So we literally need to be giving, you know, nurture, tender, loving care to it. And also it should be explored. And what better to help do this? And then, you know, sometimes it's a.
- [64:11]
Alex Cooper
Little get along with something. Something down there.
- [64:14]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah.
- [64:15]
Alex Cooper
Last question.
- [64:17]
Christina Aguilera
Last, last. No, wait.
- [64:20]
Alex Cooper
In a 2018 Billboard interview, you told the journalist to write great things about you. Do you have any great things about yourself that you want to share with the world that you feel like maybe people don't know about you or misunderstand about you, that you're like, you know what? Listen to this.
- [64:39]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah. I grew up at a time, again, where there was, like, a lot of negativity that was, you know, just always trying to be, you know, poked, you know, and I'm. I'm also, you know, you know, I have no time for like, negativity. And it's like, I've been in the business long enough to know, like, you know, I just want none of it anymore to be a part of, like, the headline. And it's like something that, you know, as a grown woman, you can have more control over. But, you know, I don't like getting poked under the table because then the claws come out. You know, we're in an elevated time in our. In all of our lives where we are more open and talk, talking to each other. And I'm just. I want peaceful energy, peaceful vibes. Like, I don't need to be talking about things that happened, you know, decades ago. Like, let's grow up, let's embrace, like, now more than ever is the time for that. And so I think, yeah, just, you know, don't poke the bear anymore. Like, don't poke. Don't poke. Don't poke me under the table because I'm still not going to be, you know, I'm still not going to be. I'm not going to be baited anymore, you know, like, a long time. You know, it happened for a long time, too. And this happened even, you know, after I had my babies. It's like, a lot of people, because there, you know, they need some attention, too. They're like, I'll get poked under the table and be like, it's one of those passive. What do you call these people that are just passive aggressive? They'll poke over the table when no one's looking. Then be like, I don't know why she's so upset. I don't know. She's crazy.
- [66:23]
Alex Cooper
You know, just leave me alone.
- [66:25]
Christina Aguilera
Manipulative, like, because, like, yeah, don't poke me too much. Like, let's not get it twisted, though. I'm sensitive and all that, but I'm a tough cookie. At the end of the day, I truly don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? Like, I just really don't. And I, you know, this is why, like, I just don't have time for the petty or, you know, just, you know, sometimes, you know, the celebrity status stuff, it's just like, I just. I want to live a real life and a loving life, you know?
- [66:52]
Alex Cooper
Right.
- [66:52]
Christina Aguilera
I just. I want good things around my energy. Space is so important to preserve that and. And for my children, you know.
- [67:00]
Alex Cooper
No, I appreciate you explaining that because it's also, like, I get what you're saying. It's like, I'm trying to be over here living my life.
- [67:06]
Christina Aguilera
Yeah.
- [67:06]
Alex Cooper
Stop trying to have me come back into the. That I was in for so long. Decades. Decades.
- [67:13]
Christina Aguilera
Grown women. Truly, truly involved examples.
- [67:17]
Alex Cooper
Christina, I honestly cannot thank you enough for coming on. I know you don't do this often and, like, appreciate getting to know you. Truly. I respected you before, but, like, naturally, when you get to know someone, the respect just grows. And you're such a strong, inspirational human being. And I just. I'm so happy I got to sit with you.
- [67:39]
Christina Aguilera
Thank you so much. I love you. I love you too.
- [67:57]
Alex Cooper
Daddy.
- [67:58]
Christina Aguilera
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