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Ciara: Don’t Let Him Waste Your Time (FBF)
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Join Alex in the studio for a chat with Grammy-award winner, Ciara! Ciara reflects on some of her most iconic moments throughout her career and discusses hard lessons learned after nearly two decades in the industry. In this episode, Alex and Ciara discuss what it takes to leave a toxic relationship, what she now recognizes as red flags, and why you should always choose yourself first. Ciara gushes over her husband, Russell Wilson, and reminisces on their love story. She talks about how she knew he was “the one,” how communication is key, and what their house is like on game day. Ciara is here dishing out wisdom and advice… so get ready Daddy Gang, it’s time to level up in all aspects of life!
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Alex Cooper
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Ciara
Experience the transformation.
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Unknown
Love believes all things. Love hopes all things.
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Daddy Gang, I am so excited for today's guest. Are you ready? Ciara is here. She is a Grammy award winning triple platinum musician. She's also an entrepreneur, cover model, fashion icon, wife, mother. I mean God damn, is there anything that she doesn't do? I cannot wait to sit down with her and get to know her today. I remember being so obsessed with her music when I was younger. Fully had a dance routine to one two step. I still remember the choreography to this day. Maybe I will have to show her my dance moves. She like fully leaves and walks out. She's like, you're so bad. No, but in all honesty you guys, if you think about it, in her two decade long career, Ciara has seen ups and downs. But our girls always come out on top. And daddy gang, we're getting into it today. We are going to discuss toxic relationships. Knowing your worth, leveling up in all aspects of life. This episode is going to be. I already know it. Full of wisdom and advice and just things that are going to make you feel good. Okay? So come hang out with me and Sierra. Sierra, this be is. She's like, I'm not coming in now. Let's go.
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Alex Cooper
What is up, daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.
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Unknown
Sierra. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Ciara
Thank you for having me.
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Unknown
I am so happy you're here. First of all, congrats on your pregnancy.
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Ciara
Thank you.
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Unknown
Talk to me. How far along are you?
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Ciara
Oh, my gosh. I don't say how far along I am because I'm kind of funny in marking the time because the most important wish is a healthy baby and desire. And I feel like when you mark time, it kind of puts pressure on the time marker.
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Unknown
Totally.
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Ciara
But I am. I am. The bump is bumping. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling a little. I would say big and slow, but, you know, I'm feeling good. I'm feeling grateful.
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Unknown
So this is baby number four.
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Ciara
Number four.
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Unknown
Did you always want a big family?
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Ciara
I did. I'm an only child, so I think because of that, like, I used to always beg my mom and dad for a brother or sister, like, please, please, please, can you have another b baby? And they would be like, it's not happening. And then I kind of like being a only child. As I got into my teens, I'm like, this actually works out. It's all about me. I like it.
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Alex Cooper
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Unknown
I am such a big fan and this year marks the 20th anniversary of your debut album Goodies. Yes, yes, it is crazy to think that because it's like you've just done so much in your career. But to think back to those OG days, I'm wondering like what does it make you feel when you know that people 20 years later are still so obsessed, so in love with the original hits?
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Ciara
Oh, my goodness, I feel grateful. It's actually, this is the 19th year. The 20th year is coming up.
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Unknown
Coming up. Okay.
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Ciara
Yeah. So. But knowing that I'm about to enter that year, I feel a heart full of gratitude. It makes me feel motivated, you know, so funny because it also just reminds you why you just keep on going, like, why you don't stop. Why you don't stop believing and you stay committed to your vision. Because when I was young, I was like, I spoke so much into, like, the things that I saw happening for myself. And it's kind of crazy. Like, I actually. I had a goal sheet. So my goal sheet, I was like 14 years old when I wrote it down. Before I got discovered, I had three goals. So the first goal was to get discovered. Okay. And I wrote on how I was gonna get discovered. So I'm gonna talent shows and all this kind of stuff. And then my second goal was, once I got discovered, to sell three to four million albums. And I did five, which was a blessing. So check off one and check off two. And three was longevity. So it was broad. But I was still, like, envisioning, like, long term success. So to know that having a vision as a young girl, dreaming big, and it actually happens, dude, it's kind of crazy because that's kind of the story of my life. Like, I speak a lot of life into, like, a lot that happens to me, and I envision it before it happens. And it's crazy that we're sitting here almost 20 years in.
- [10:12]
Unknown
It's also crazy to hear you at 14 putting that goal list together. I'm like, what the was I doing at 14? Like, picking my nose and, like, getting on Accutane. I was like, oh, like, damn. Like, were you always that ambitious? And were your parents like, go, Sierra. Or were there ever, like, oh, my God, slow down. Like, chill. You don't need to be doing all this at this young of an age.
- [10:32]
Ciara
Yeah, well, my dad was. My mom and my dad were supportive. And I always say the one thing I can say I'm truly thankful for is that they allowed me to do what I wanted to do. Like, they didn't stop me. My mom was more, you know, she had more reservations than my dad did about the music industry because she watched all those VH1 like, true story. I forget what they call the show. It was a show called, you remember.
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Alex Cooper
Yeah.
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Unknown
Something like True Hollywood Story.
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Ciara
Yes. Something like that. Yeah. Basically. It's like all the bad stuff. So you watch those shows and you're like, fuck, yeah, it's a little scary. Like, is that what my daughter's getting into? My mom was thinking that way, so I think she was a little like, what's that music industry world about? And. But she still allowed me to do it. And she was super supportive. My mom and my dad were. My dad would travel late nights to the studio with me, sleep on the sofa while I'm recording in the booth, driving back home, get ready for school. All. I mean, he was in it. They both were supportive. So, you know, I'm glad they let me do that. Right. I'm glad they allowed me that opportunity. And I will never forget that for my babies. Yeah. Like, I gotta, like, let them pursue their dreams and what they're passionate about. So I took a. I've taken a note from that couple.
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Unknown
Notes from your parents?
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Ciara
Yeah, just a few.
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Unknown
Couple.
- [11:45]
Alex Cooper
Yeah.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
You've done so much in your career, when you reflect on your career, and I know this is kind of hard to answer, but, like, what is the most iconic moment in your mind of your career?
- [11:56]
Ciara
Oh, my goodness, that's hard.
- [11:58]
Unknown
I know.
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Ciara
You know, I. I do. I will say I think Goodies was very special for me because it put me on the map. My first single was number one for eight weeks long. We were breaking records and all this cool stuff then, which was really amazing. And it was kind of that moment of, like, where my identity was established, like, right away. But it was clear on, like, who this girl was. Like, Sierra from Atlanta, Cece from Atlanta, but here to stay. Kind of energy, I feel, and I think even the imagery of things that we did, like the swimsuit with the jeans, and I wear my tall boxer boots. I. I mean, I couldn't go anywhere without the high top. High tops are still my thing to this day. But the boxer boots were, like, my jam. I needed my wrestling boots, actually.
- [12:39]
Unknown
Yeah. I feel like it was something that, like, everyone will always remember. Like, it fashion wise, music wise, like, as a woman. Like, it was just so iconic. I remember when it came out, I, like, still listen to it to this day. I remember making up also, like, oh, my God. And then when one two Step came out and I was, like, making up the, like, most awkward dances, like, with my friends, thinking we're, like, hot. Like, it wasn't hot. Just to clarify, Sierra, it was not as hot as you.
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Ciara
I know, but. No.
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Unknown
Okay. But I. I just think about you at that Young age, though, and I'm curious, like, if you can take me back a little bit to, like, what was life like? You're coming out with music, you're rising to fame, and you're only 18 years old.
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Ciara
Like, yeah.
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Unknown
What was your life like at that time?
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Ciara
So I was always super, super focused, super driven, you know, Very, very headstrong.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Ciara
You know, I remember when I was like, put my vision together for the project. I'm like, I want to do, like, this, and I'm like that, and I'm do this, and it's going to be this, like. And I was very clear on my vision. Like, no one could tell me anything different. And I was very opinionated at a young age.
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Unknown
I relate in some ways to that of just being like, so, yeah, like, headstrong and, like, I know what I'm doing. Like, I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna make this happen sometimes. I've experienced, though, you almost struggle to pause and be happy for yourself in a moment of, like, oh, shit, like, I did this.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
Do you have a moment in your career at that young age where you were able to stop and be like, oh, damn, like, I made it. Like, that one. I made it moment. Do you remember that?
- [14:08]
Ciara
Mm. I think maybe a small blip of that was winning a Grammy.
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Unknown
Oh.
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Alex Cooper
Just hopeful.
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Ciara
That was a very special moment for me because I'd always dreamt of something as, like, that's like the super bowl for music, right. It's like, it doesn't get any higher than that award. So for me, that was super special and significant. But to be honest with you, my world was going so fast. So as you can imagine, it literally was like the first 10 songs in my career, whether it was my song or collaboration, they were all top 10, top 5, top 3 records or number 1 records. So I don't think I really allowed myself until a little bit later to stop and, like, really realize where I was. And I think you realize it even more when you have a challenge, when you've. When you face adversity, that's when you go, oh, you start to realize, like, okay. Exactly where things were, you know? And then when you determine, you stay at it, you fight through it, you battle through your challenges, and you keep it moving and you keep on staying on the track, because that's all a part of it. But my. My true made it moment, though, I will say, if I could pick a moment where I'm like, oh, like, was definitely winning a Grammy.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
Damn. Damn.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
I think A lot of people are like, I hope that's my oh, I made it moment.
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Ciara
Here we go.
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Unknown
Hearing you obviously, like, you're such a savvy businesswoman and I'm just sitting here like, thinking of you because your career started so young, like, what was the hardest business lesson that you had to learn early on?
- [15:31]
Ciara
Oh, you gotta leave your emotions at the door. Like, you know, there's a time and a place for sincerity and, and being emotional, especially as a woman. So early on I learned that, you know, I'm like, in business, there's no, there's no gray. It's only black and white. Right? So if you can, you know, find a way to manage your emotions, you know, that's, it's game changing because you also realize that a lot of people in our industry don't really care for your emotions. A lot of people don't really care in general. It's like, what can you do for me in this moment? What can you do for me in general? That's kind of the mentality from a lot of people. A lot of my experiences. And then when you know the good ones, you hold on to them and you value them. But I think being a young woman, being determined, you know, and all that good stuff and having to like, manage my stuff. Like, mind you, my parents weren't like, you know, navigating this world for me. I was a young girl, like hiring and firing and do, I mean, like everything. So the emotions I had to learn early, Take them, leave them at the door. Yeah, yeah.
- [16:35]
Unknown
Do you think that, like, on a personal level, like, how did you stay grounded while you're getting like famous and pictures and everything? Like, where did you find your center core?
- [16:44]
Ciara
I'll be honest with you, I'm a spiritual girl, right. I think, I think a lot of people know that, but so for me, my foundation was that I had faith. I, for me, I know who God and Jesus is. Like, that's important for me, right? Everybody has their thing. But I think that kind of helps to keep me like, level set the people around me. Like, to this day I still call my boy Jasper, who I met when I was like 14 years old recording my first song. Like he was there in the booth with me. So mind you, that's 20 plus years of relationship. My best friend and makeup artist who's been in my career since I was 16. My first professional shoot as a solo artist, actually my first professional shoot in general. She did that. So we're 20 plus years of friendship and she's my Matron of honor, my team, I stay pretty consistent. I try to keep it like I'm a creature of habit. I think consistency is key. But I do believe having people having that consistent group of people in a circle of people that I can trust and know they got my back, I think that was a big part that really helped me to stay like level headed and to be able to reset or have a place to go to. Because I always say I don't care how strong you are, I don't care how capable you are. You have to have somebody you can talk to. Like that is so important. Because the one thing that is very detrimental to, can be detrimental to a person is when you bottle stuff in and you don't have a place to go. Yep. So for me, I think having a place to go has always been a great thing for me or someone I can trust and talk to. Even if it's just one person. Like everybody doesn't have to know your stuff like you know, but just one person, if you have one, you have enough for me personally and then of course I pray and all that good stuff.
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Unknown
I appreciate you sharing that because again obviously most people that are going to listen like they can't relate to maybe some parts of your life. But that's some of the most relatable is like making sure that you have good people around you.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
And actually people that you trust. And it doesn't have to be a lot of people. But I think if you don't have good people, you can lose your way. Because if you're then you're potentially hanging out with people that could sway you or you don't trust and then you have trust issues. It's like making sure you know people are there for the right reasons which sometimes you can't. You have to just trust 100 and.
- [18:52]
Ciara
Sometimes you get screwed over 100. You got to have people that you know are going to be honest with you that will, you know, hold you accountable. But it's also how they hold, how do they hold themselves? Like how they live their lives too. Right. You can't have their own piece with people feeding you. Like you said, like that's when it is dangerous. Right. And one thing I have learned is that when you're vulnerable that is the most crucial spot that you to listen to the right person. Because you can listen to the wrong person when you're vulnerable and they can send you completely left. Right. Like that's the thing about life. It's like amazing how one decision can change your life. For better or for worse, one decision, right? So who's feeding you when you're vulnerable? Like, that's so important.
- [19:30]
Unknown
You even see some celebrities and you can tell, like, the people that maybe don't have people with the right intentions in their camp, because it's like, of course, like, you guys at some point can be just reduced to, like, an object of, like, go here, go here, go here. We're all making money off of you. And at some point, you have to decide, like, you're the one that keeps it all moving. So you have to advocate for yourself in some capacity, like, to keep those people that actually have the right intentions and the right. Like, they want the best for you. That's hard, though.
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Ciara
It is. It's hard. But, you know, my thing is, it's like, there's a lot in the Bible, it talks about, what good is it for a man to gain the world and lose his soul? One of the. My. One of my greatest fears is to have a certain amount of success. It's, like, the highest level, but to not know who I am. And I'm very, very focused. I'm very intentional about that. Like, making sure I'm checking myself, too. Like, I got to check myself sometimes, too. And it's like, I want to be incredibly successful, but I don't want it that much. I'm, like, lost in the end, Right?
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Unknown
Imagine it all comes out. You get. We pray we all get to 80, 90.
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Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
And you're like, yeah, I did it for all what I got no one around me. I got nothing that I don't even know who the hell I am. Glad I got the Grammys and the awards and the albums. But, like, who am I?
- [20:43]
Ciara
Empty. Yeah. That I'm so terrified of that. And I see it happen so often in my industry. Like, a lot of the greats that I respected and admired, a lot of their stories, like, it's not that beautiful story that you saw and why you fell in love with what they do. And I'm just like, man, like, that's not truly living to me. Like, it can't. My life, my. The success of my life can also be based off of the materialistic stuff and the awards and all those great things. Like, that's. That just can't be enough to fill my cup. Because, honestly, sometimes those things don't happen for you when you want them to happen anyways. Like, there's still things that I wish I, you know, could do or I'm hoping to do, and it may not happen. So I'VE got to make sure I have a level set, an understanding of, like, what is my definition of success? Right. When you're so young, you look so far ahead, like, and you should, you should look far ahead and you shouldn't dream big, but you're, like, sometimes so honed in on, like, you know, all these things that you have so much time to get to, and it's like, you know, you got to have perspective, right. You gotta, like, stay rooted within yourself and know who you are along the way because you can lose yourself.
- [21:50]
Unknown
It's so true. And I appreciate you saying that because it's like, I feel like we, right now, our culture is very like, go, go, go. You want more. We want the coolest fashion, we want money, we want success. We want the big cars and the houses and the cool things. And if you don't have it, then you're a loser and you're not as cool.
- [22:05]
Ciara
Yes.
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Unknown
There's just so much comparison right now, and especially for women, it's just like, the aging aspect and, like, we're not good enough if we don't get. There's just so much. What is something that you Learned in your 20s that you still carry with you to this day that you can share with us?
- [22:20]
Ciara
Patience. I. I really. That's one of my favorite words. Well, actually, perspectives, one of my favorite words, but also patience. I would say patience is everything. You know, sometimes, like I say, you want things to happen at a certain marker for you, and they may not happen until you're 50 or 60 years old. You just don't know. Right. So to me, you got to have patience in the process. Like, trust the timing that's meant for you. Things are going to happen for you when they're supposed to. Even for me, I have to remind myself, when stuff is ugly, I'm like, this is a part of life.
- [22:49]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Ciara
Right. This is. You're supposed to have a little bit of the ugly. Like I say, sometimes you have to go through the ugly to get to the pretty.
- [22:55]
Unknown
Yeah.
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Ciara
Right.
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Unknown
Even also, you saying earlier you were like, I didn't even stop in moments because, like, when everything's going well, you just keep going. And the hardest moments are the moments that you actually are hip, checked within yourself to be like, whoa, first of all, so grateful for the good times.
- [23:11]
Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
Because this shit's rough right now. And you then gain that appreciative.
- [23:15]
Ciara
Yeah.
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Unknown
I also think what you're saying about patience is really important too, especially with people in this young generation. I feel it of, like, the patience of, like, the comparison is, oh, my God, that person got that job, and I didn't get the job or I didn't get the thing I wanted. And it's like we're comparing ourselves to the person around us or our friends around us.
- [23:33]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [23:33]
Unknown
Everything moves at a different pace.
- [23:34]
Ciara
Yeah, it does.
- [23:35]
Unknown
And the reason you didn't get that job is for a reason, because you're going to get another thing to tell you. It's hard.
- [23:40]
Ciara
Yeah. And sometimes, too, things look pretty on the outside, but you don't know what somebody's going through. When you're, like, looking at what they have going and you want what they have, girl, you don't know what they're going through.
- [23:50]
Unknown
No clue.
- [23:51]
Ciara
Right. So it's like, you got to trust your own timing. Like, you know, it's. It's so much better that way. Like, do you know what's crazy for me is I remember, like, in the days of me, you know, being signed to traditional labels, and I looked. I would look up and I watch other artists. Like, I'm like, I've been around the block for, like, a long time. And she just come in and she, like, looking like she rolling two times faster than what I just, like. And I'm busting my butt. Like, I'm like, I know I work harder than she works. Like, I know she ain't showing up how I should. And it looks like the world is just going, so taking off of them. It's like, you know what? Like, that's for them. Like. And celebrate it, too. Actually, I think there's something really good about celebrating the success of others, because when it's your time, it's gonna happen for you. Things take time. Yeah, right.
- [24:34]
Unknown
It's so true. And it's also like, like you said, like, if someone pops off so fast and it's so different, like, we don't know what they're going through. Maybe they're also really struggling. Like, who the hell has popped off so fast and been like, mental health is at a hundred.
- [24:47]
Ciara
Like, it's not a thing. It gets crazy. And sometimes, too, I think when you go so fast in the beginning, you don't have much to look forward to or you don't appreciate it. Like, I appreciate every step of the way for myself because of what I've gone through. And I know for a fact I wouldn't appreciate it if I had everything given to me, the world given to me when I wanted it, you know, when I wanted it, basically. And it's like, me Telling my kids, like, you can't have everything at, you know, can you imagine how crazy the world be that we had everything we wanted when we wanted it? Like, that would be nuts.
- [25:20]
Unknown
Like, we'd all be miserable.
- [25:21]
Ciara
Crazy. Like, crazy. Like we run around like crazy, crazy people. I'm telling you, everybody be lost. Like, you know, like, losing it, too. So there's something to, like, you know, the struggle. There's something to adversity. There's something to getting knocked down and getting back up. There's something to, like, all of that good stuff, right? And just like, trust the process. Like, if it's meant for you, it's going to happen for you when it's supposed to, how it's supposed to, and it's going to be so great.
- [25:48]
Unknown
It is kind of about the process of, like, letting things play out. Then you appreciate it more. You have more understanding of who you are as a human being. When you go through more shit, like, you come out on top because you have learned experiences rather than just getting it all, you're like, oh, this was easy.
- [26:05]
Ciara
Yes.
- [26:05]
Unknown
Speaking of relationships, I want to talk to you about love and relationships. Obviously, you're married to Russell Wilson, the Denver Broncos quarterback. We love that for you. It's so cute to see, like, it seems like you guys have such a healthy and loving relationship. I see online people commenting like, Sierra, like, where do I find my Russell? Like, where do I find, like, my couple goals? And obviously, in order to get to a healthy relationship, you got to go through things before you get to that point. And I want to talk to you a little bit about growing and learning and how you got to where you are now. Around the time that you met Russell, you were going through a really public and what looked like painful breakup. And I think about, like, leaving a relationship is so hard to make that decision. Especially I'm assuming, as you, when you have a child, how did you know for yourself it was time to leave?
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Ciara
Oh, my goodness. When you know you're supposed to make a make a super defined decision in your life, you know it from, like the head to your feet, from your feet to your head and your soul and your body, you know it. And it's almost like your taste buds change, right? You have a taste bud for a certain kind of thing, and then the taste buds just go. You got to sometimes also look in the mirror and reflect on yourself too, right? Like, okay, what are things that I could be doing differently in my life? Or, you know, what's a part of what I'm Looking for change. But what does that mean? So you have to kind of define everything about making changes in. In your life that are very critical. And, you know, I've talked about it before. Obviously, when you have a child, it's very important to me. Like, now it's no time to play around. Like, the whole, like, experimentation kind of phase is out the door. It's like, I am now responsible for another life. Right. So what am I doing? Like, how am I thinking that through? So, you know, and then when you tie, you tired. You tired, you know, and so we get tired, and we don't want to be tired all the time. Like, you know, I'm like, I want to. I want joy. I want to make sure my cup is full. Like, how am I living my life? Like, I always say, don't let nobody waste your time. Like, that's one thing. Like, we talk about, like, you know, you know, life and the trajectory of life and what, you know, it's like, I don't care if it's relationship or friendship, business, whatever it is, like, don't let it waste your time. It's just not worth it. Yeah. Right. So, yeah. I mean, those are. Those are things that come to my mind, how I process when I'm making a pivotal. When it. There's a pivotal moment in my life and in any aspect of my life.
- [28:41]
Unknown
When you hear people talk about it, it does seem like, oh, that's so simple. But when you're in it, it is like, it's really hard to collect yourself when you're trying to leave something and you're like, you're so used to something.
- [28:55]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [28:55]
Unknown
Even if it's toxic. Like, I have women write into me, Sierra, that are like, it. The fear of being alone sometimes is worse than the fear of staying in something toxic.
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Ciara
Yeah.
- [29:05]
Unknown
And I wonder, like, what advice you.
- [29:07]
Ciara
Have, because the thing is, is that what you do learn is toxicity will. It can kill you. Like, toxicity. Putting toxic things into your body is not good. It's not like. So I think it's like, we have to be real with ourselves. Right. It's like, what do you want out of life for yourself? You have to be a little selfish in your thought process, and whatever's around you needs to align with that. Right. Like, you know, that's important. Like, but that whole, like, the toxic, like, is like, there's nothing fun about, you know, being confused all the time or someone taking you on, like, the ring around. Like, that's not. That's not fun.
- [29:48]
Unknown
It's not fun. And I feel like from my personal experience, like, I've been in some toxic relationships where it almost. You can normalize it, like when you're in it for long enough. And I like that you spoke about it. Like, there is a moment and. And I pray for a lot of women listening. Like, you catch that moment before it gets really detrimental to your own health. But, like, there's that moment, you know, but for a while you can, like, have full blinders on and just not see it because it becomes so normalized. I'm wondering, like, when you were younger, like, what is something that you now recognize is a red flag, but at the time you would either, like, ignore or maybe like, turn away from.
- [30:26]
Ciara
Well, yes, like, how is a person talking to you? How do they treat others? How do they what? You know, you do ignore a lot of stuff, like when you just want to see what you want to see. But again, when you start thinking holistically, it's like, you know, no one's going to be perfect, but you do want the one that's perfect for you. Like, and how many boxes I can they check off for you that fits like, what your desire is. And it should be both ways, right? Me and Russ, we always talk about being equally yolked. Like, for us from day one, like, honestly, I think it was a, you know, healthy place. And I thank God because we always saw. We. We kind of saw a lot of things the same way. So I think that's more than half the battle when you're kind of aligned. Yes, it's definitely like how someone talks to you. What's their track record, girl? What's the track record? And sometimes too, like, listen, you know, you don't. You again, you see things how you see them. Like, sometimes you do overlook things because of your perspective. And again, it's like you're trying to see things like the glass has full. Like, you're trying to see it from a positive lens. But again, like, what's a person doing? I think more than anything, it's like they can tell you everything. A person can be like, oh, I've changed and I'm doing that. And I've heard those stories before. Of course I've heard that song before. But what are they doing? Doing right? And I think sometimes you tend to put the words before the actions, right? You listen. You listen more versus, like, just watching. Like, how are they showing up or not showing up? Like, and then sometimes you don't realize, like, they're telling you. It's like they're Telling you the same thing in a different way. It's like. But wait a minute. What you told me last time, you told me the same thing again, and you're doing the same thing again. So, like, what the. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. And.
- [32:13]
Unknown
Yeah, and I love what you said about you and Russell is like, we're very similar in the way that we think and what we like and what we believe in. And, like, of course everyone's different. But when you find yourself trying to make something work so hard and you're the one that's constantly forgiving or coming back, full stop.
- [32:34]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [32:35]
Unknown
Like, red flag.
- [32:36]
Ciara
Red flag. Yeah, for sure. It's like, it takes two.
- [32:39]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [32:39]
Ciara
You know? And, like, how are you showing up? Like, you ain't showing up, so I ain't showing up either. I'm actually going. I'm out. Like, yeah, I showed up and I'm cool. Like, you ain't gonna exhaust me to the. Because honestly, you can lose yourself in those moments. Like. And like I said, it's one of my greatest fears, and I've been there before. I'm looking at someone, I'm like, you ain't gonna waste my life. I'm sorry. Like, that's not an option. Like, it's so scary, though, right? It is scary. It is scary. But, you know, you gotta, like, put your foot down for what you want and what you deserve.
- [33:12]
Unknown
All the girlies are taking notes right now. They're like, yes, Sierra.
- [33:15]
Ciara
Like, yes, but don't be afraid.
- [33:18]
Unknown
No, yeah, you're right. Don't be afraid of, like, the best part is leaving. The best part is getting out. The best part is finding yourself without that person.
- [33:26]
Ciara
And.
- [33:27]
Unknown
And obviously, you now are in such a healthy relationship. It looks. And I'm so happy for you. Just, like, even when you talk about who, I can just tell, like, yeah, like, you're happy. And so I also wonder, like, when you go into a healthy relationship, I think sometimes it's so annoying, but, like, sometimes we can't help but bring our baggage and our habits from our past relationships that we've had in our life. Like, was there anything that you had to unlearn essentially when you got into your relationship with Russell?
- [33:56]
Ciara
Leave it at the door. Leave it at the door. That I think that's so important for yourself and your own sanity, but it's also not fair to your partner to bring old baggage that is from the past, because then I think you don't give yourself an opportunity to fully be in that love and Be engulfed in that love and to create something fresh for yourself. Before Russ came into my life, like, I didn't think he was gonna come to my life that fast, to be honest with you. But before he came into my life, the, the place that I was at mentally when I decided, like, you know, I, I'm, I, I'm desiring something different. And I was clear on, like, I was very intentional in that, that phase of my life. And obviously you have my baby in my life, my. My firstborn, you know, I took that moment for myself because I think sometimes too, like, if we go back to back, you know, in relationships, you also aren't having a chance to like, make peace with yourself and to really, like, tap into you in a way that you maybe don't know you need to, but you need to sometimes pause, like, take a break and just like, love on yourself, reset, get clarity, you know, the past is the past. Where are you trying to. Where do you want to and really should look ahead, like, and be clear and intentional with that. So I think I will say the, the moment before Russ came into my life, I said I thought I was going to be single for like four years at least. I was like, I'm not doing this. I'm tired. Because I'm tired. Like, I'm like, it's what's going on and I'm also, I'm. It's self reflecting. It's everything going on, right? So I had like, to go through that phase and that process and that journey, you know? And so in that moment when you're resetting, the things that are of the past, they're starting to become of the past to you, right? So it's like you're already clearing up your mind just in general for yourself. Like, not even for someone to come into my life, but just me doing this self cleanse thing I need to do with myself. Like, get really find myself. Like, who am I? Like, what's this woman want to feel like when she walks throughout the world? Like, what does she talk? Like, what does she think? Like, like, I mean, it's all these things that are about myself. I'm like, this is what I need for me, right? And then of course, course, like, who's going to be in her life? Like, I'm thinking about these things and I'm like, I mean, my mind is as vivid as it can be. I'm like, he's going to be a man of God. Like, he's going to love kids because I have a child now. I'm like he's going to love to like travel the world. Like I mean all these things. Like I'm envisioning it so much that I can taste. So we talk about those taste buds. That taste bud starts to have a palette. That's all. It's like fit for all that stuff. So I'm thinking that way, you know already. So when I see it, I know it. And when I saw my honey, my, my husband, like I've never seen anything like that. Yeah, never. Not. I haven't talked to anyone like that. Like I haven't felt anything like that. But I feel everything that I like I almost can cry my hormones but maybe it's not my homeless but. But I could like see like it was exactly what I was saying right in front of me. Like it's crazy. Like crazy.
- [37:01]
Unknown
How, when, when did you meet him? Like what was the situation? How did you meet?
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- [40:37]
Unknown
When did you meet him? Like, what was the situation? How did you meet?
- [40:40]
Ciara
We met when we meet. What year was this? 20. Oh, gosh, 2015.
- [40:45]
Unknown
Okay.
- [40:45]
Ciara
In 2015.
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Unknown
Okay. Where were you?
- [40:48]
Ciara
We were actually in California. And the crazy thing is we started talking early. At first we were chatting a little bit and then we had our first in person meeting before we. So before we met in person, we were chatting a little bit. And when he met in person was the craziest thing because I was trying to make sure I'm doing this right because mind you, I hadn't met a guy at this point. I hadn't talked to a guy or anything at this point. So I'm like, this is like, you know, it's a guy in general. And then. And he always, he was like, well, because I'm like, well, when we were meeting, I'm like, I also was looking at it from a friendship perspective, you know, Sierra, I'm just saying like, you know, the build up before you get the there. He was like, what friendship? He's like, I want look for no friend. You know, so we joke about that. I love it because I want to be like really, like, best buddy, like, out of here. Yeah. What you talking about? I mean, but he was cute, though, you know? You know, but, you know, we. We gonna start. We're gonna go on phases kind of thing.
- [41:46]
Unknown
Right?
- [41:46]
Ciara
But when we met in person, the first time in person we talked was actually at my place. Oh. And you know, the. It was kind of the. Not kind of, but it was the best thing for the both of us, we felt. Because even though we were, you know, meeting as friends and all that stuff, you know, he. My son was there and my dad was there. So see the friendship perspective. Oh, yeah.
- [42:16]
Unknown
You really were like, meet my. He's probably like, oh, my God, I'm meeting the dad. And you're like, no, you're just a homie.
- [42:20]
Ciara
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We actually talked about it and, you know, what did he say to me? He was like, well, I'm gonna have to meet him anyways. Like, we, like.
- [42:29]
Unknown
I love it. Confident.
- [42:30]
Ciara
Very. So I'm like, you know, so we meet and again, that's not. That's not like a traditional way. I'm not telling someone to do that. But because it's. He and I, you know, you're public figures in our world, unfortunately. Oftentimes I think if you jump, you put the crop before the horse. Before you are officially together, the world puts this pressure on you and this. It's just become something else that it. It kind of like gets in the way of what? You know, the tr. Like, the true thing is that's there could be. So we just were being private. Basically. We were gonna go out to eat dinner, and then we kind of like, we just. Let's keep it in.
- [43:04]
Unknown
What did you guys do?
- [43:05]
Ciara
So we just talked and we were supposed to have dinner. Food was like, Belly was, like, content. Even though it was hungry, it was content, like, you know, because we were, like, talking and talking and talking and. And it was crazy. Everything that we talked about, like, we were aligned on, like. And I'm not going to lie to you, it was one point in time we were talking and he was talking to me, and I wasn't hearing nothing he was saying because I was like, he's so beautiful. Like, I'm looking at him. I'm like, he's, like, gorgeous. Like. Because I didn't, like, look. I didn't look him up. I don't want to know anything about, like, him before we met, right? So I'm just like, wow. Yeah. No, I was. I was literally just sitting there, like, he's talking I'm like, oh, wait, but just run.
- [43:48]
Unknown
Just friends. Just run.
- [43:49]
Ciara
But the words are going like this over my head. And so, yes, you know?
- [43:53]
Unknown
Do you agree? You're like, huh?
- [43:55]
Ciara
What'd you say?
- [43:56]
Unknown
Yeah, I love that, for sure.
- [43:57]
Ciara
I mean, I'm hearing what he's saying. I'm in the conversation, but I can't remember all that we were saying, you know, so looking great. It was nice. So we just sat and talked. And I knew. And I said this the other day when I. When I was talking to him. I was like, this is something different. I knew, like, that I'd never felt what I felt in that moment. I knew this was a different man that I was talking to then. You know, I just knew, like, I just. It was different. Like, so much to the point that I called Yoli my best friend. I called her after, and I said, yoli. I was like, I don't want to jinx anything. I was like, but I think he's. And she goes, the one. And I go, yes. Like, I. And I never said that in my life. Never said that in my life.
- [44:46]
Unknown
So it was meant to be.
- [44:49]
Ciara
Without a doubt.
- [44:51]
Unknown
But without a doubt, what was it about him that really impressed you that day?
- [44:55]
Ciara
It was, you know what? His conversation, how he talked about life. It's also filling, too. You know, it's kind of hard to put in words, but I know. I know what I'm talking to. Like, I said, those taste buds are activated. Like, I'm talking to, like, every. Since. Everything that I had on the palate was, like, stim. It was stimulated. It was, like, clear. Like, you know, and so I just knew, like, even how he talked to my dad, you know, and my son was, like, moving around, and at some point in time, like, there. He's holding him. Like, there was actually this funny thing y' all think we ever told by this, but where there's this chair that's, like, in my. Living in my kitchen, and the chair is, like, about to fall over, and future is literally, my son is. He's right there. And literally, Russ, like, slides and the socks, catches the chair. It. Honestly, no, it's. This may sound dramatic, but no lie. He slides over, catches the chair, and I'm like, okay, okay, Superman. We got a Superman. No, but, you know, you're literally sitting there like. No, it was just everything. No, it was good. Everything. Like, there wasn't one thing that wasn't something like.
- [46:10]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [46:10]
Ciara
Do you know what I mean?
- [46:11]
Unknown
I know what you're saying, too, and I think it's important because obviously, like you said, which I love that you're explaining after a breakup of what you know you don't want anymore, and you have that moment within yourself, you quickly align of like, whoa, I got to get my shit together. Like, I didn't like how I felt. I didn't like this, this, this, this, or I liked this, and I want to bring this into my next relationship, whatever it is. But then when you meet that person, especially when you've had maybe the. Not like, the healthiest of relationships before.
- [46:37]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [46:37]
Unknown
It's a feeling of, like, you still have those, like, giddy butterflies, like we said. Like, you're drooling in the corner, but it's you. There's a sense of, like, calmness. And I remember I felt it with my fiance because I. It was like he is kept. It keeps me on my toes, and it's so exciting, but it's, like, safe and calm, and I'm not insecure, and I'm not.
- [46:58]
Ciara
Like.
- [46:58]
Unknown
There's still that feeling of, like, oh, you want to impress them and have fun. But it's a different level of connection where you feel like you've known them.
- [47:06]
Alex Cooper
For a long time.
- [47:07]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [47:07]
Unknown
You know what I mean? It is like, there's something there that you're like, whoa. Like, your soul's almost as. It's, like, corny, but, like, it's like, almost like you knew you were supposed.
- [47:14]
Ciara
To meet no one. 100%. No, no, no, no, no. 100%, like, because that's what I. And also, too, like. And I think I've said this, but just in case. It's like, literally, the conversation we're having is just so aligned. Like, you're going back and forth, and you're like. You're going, like, yes. Like, everything you're saying is, like, a fiery kind of feeling to it because you're, like, almost talking to yourself a little bit. Right. But there's something you made me think about. Hold on. Wait, let me see. Oh, with the giddy thing. Right. What's so amazing, and I feel so blessed because now we are in year seven of marriage. Eight years of being together, so. Baby, on my way. Love it. No. Is that I still get the giddy feeling. I think it's so important we always talk about that. Right. Is that you still want to. Like, Russ always says, you know, I believe his dad would say to him, like, you got to always compete. Or it's kind of one of his things that he came up with, but you got to always compete. So it is that thing where it's like, even though you do build a comfort over time, you still want to, like, you know, you still want to make sure you keep it, like, cute. You want to keep it sexy, you want to keep it spicy, you want to keep it fun. Like, we still do. We do date nights every Friday, because in football, that's the off day. So we do date nights every Friday, and we stay committed to that, and we, like, look for. It's something I look forward to. And the fires, they burn, like, you know, and you still feel like dating all over. The other night, we played Uno at dinner, and I was like. And I said, babe, can we take the Uno cards? And he was like, yeah, you know, but any play Uno. But it was the little things, right? And I was like, I had so much. I literally told him the next morning. Like, I had so much fun. Like, so I think it's like, you know, it's. It's all that, you know, it's like, you know, do you. Do you have someone in your life that's also down to try new things with you? Like. Like, do they accept you at your lowest of your low points? Right. Like, every day is not perfect.
- [48:59]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [48:59]
Ciara
Like, I've had moments where I look up, you know, and I'm going through a challenging time, and he's the one person, the only person I can look to in that moment. And he has always has the right words to say. Like, you know, all those things are important, too. Like, how does a person speak to you when you're at your low right in your relationship? Because that's key. Like, it's really you, too. Like, so true. When it's all said and done, like, it's you two and you have your kids, of course, too, but, like, it's.
- [49:23]
Unknown
The two of you.
- [49:24]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [49:24]
Unknown
Even hearing you, too. Like, when he came over, it wasn't just you. Like, you had a son. Like, you have a son. You're like, you're bringing someone into your life that now is not just gonna be a relationship with yourself. You need to also have a relationship with my son. Like, how did he take on being a stepfather?
- [49:42]
Ciara
He jumped right in, changing the diapers right away, no hesitation. He's an amazing father. Like, watching him with all of our kids is, like. It is one of the sweetest things. It's one of the sexiest things, to be honest with you. I'm just saying, ladies, when the man jumps in and changes the diapers and he be pulling up to the teacher parent conferences and he be, you know, it's like, ooh, he surprised Cece at the dentist the other day, and she was like, daddy. And I was like, daddy. I would say the same thing, too.
- [50:14]
Unknown
Like, daddy at the dentist.
- [50:15]
Ciara
Yeah. I'm like, okay. But it is. That's what you want.
- [50:21]
Unknown
Like, you so good.
- [50:21]
Ciara
That feels good. You know, it's like. It feels. It feels good when, you know, there's something about a man turning on that part of them. Like, you know, they're manning for you, they're being a man for you, but they're also being a man for your family. Like, there's no better feeling than knowing that when we all look up and we. If we look at him, like, he's got us, like, I know he's going to wrap his arms around me and my babies fully. Like, there's no depth that he won't go to go. You know, go to for us or to make sure things are, like, right for us like that. That. It's kind of hard to put that in words, but that feels good. Foreign.
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Alex Cooper
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Unknown
We got to know Sierra. What what is your favorite part about being married to a professional athlete?
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Ciara
Oh, go. You know, it's crazy. I love football. Before he came into my life, like I'm a tomboy. So I watched the game with my my dad growing up. But you know I mean, I think I say that because I think that you really enjoy. I really enjoy the journey with him. I enjoy the highs and the lows with him. I enjoy his competitive nature. Like, I really respect it. Like, one thing about Russ is, like, when it comes to football, he is so dedicated to football. It's like, football and family. Football, family. Like, I mean, he's really dedicated to his game, and I really admire that. So, obviously, doing what I do, I feel like I get so much of a motivational dose, like, every day on his journey. And what I do, like, I get really inspired. Like, you know. You know, you would think that I'm in the huddle with him when he's in the huddle. You would think that because, like, I'm in this thing. Like, but we have so much fun. Like, sports. Sports. You know, sports are such a. It's such a powerful force. Music is a powerful force. So it's such a blessing to have sports and music in our household. But I do enjoy, like, the. The. This. The. The. The joy that we get even. You know, like, I say, the highs and the lows, getting ready for each Sunday, or if it's a Monday night or a Thursday night, you know, the drama in our. In our household with the kids, like, also being excited and being able. It's just a whole. Like, it's. It's a blessing.
- [56:33]
Unknown
I was about to say, like, tell us, what's the vibe of the house on game day? Like, what are we doing?
- [56:39]
Ciara
Okay. Game day. Okay. So Russ is a creature of habit. Okay? So he's. He's, like, very consistent. So it's very routine. You know, he does his body work, his treatment work, and all that good stuff. And he's in his piece then. And typically when he does it, I'm with him. So mommy's like, okay, kids, Like, I'll be right back. Like, but I gotta be there, like, in that Zen moment. And then he goes through his motion to prepare for the game, and then the kids are definitely upstairs running around, like, chaos, turned up, excited. You know, it's not that serious for them at this age. Although I will say future is getting more serious. He's also into sports, too, so he can feel a little bit of the journey, too. Sienna's like, go, daddy. Yeah.
- [57:22]
Unknown
Get it.
- [57:22]
Ciara
Yeah. And when's like, go, go. I mean, this is. This. Different levels, right? But we have that flow. And then he gets ready. We do. We. He gets ready to roll out the door. We do prayer every. Every time before a game as a Family. He goes off to do his thing and then it's me and the babies, we're getting ourselves together, we ride to the car, we jam out. I'm DJ Mama. The kids are DJs too. They all want to pick their own songs. It's all the good energy rolling up to the stadium and. And then we roll into the. The suite and then, you know, when you sit down, I'm not gonna lie to you guys, especially being pregnant. The emotional roller coaster is like, oh Lord. I'd be talking to myself. Like I'm. I mean, it's just a journey. I'm like, geez, heart stop pumping so fast sometimes. Like it's crazy.
- [58:09]
Unknown
I love it though.
- [58:10]
Ciara
It's crazy. Cuz you feel like I said, I'm in the huddle too. I'm out there like, you know, you know, I'm. I'm. And I'm wanting, you know, always the best outcome. So it's so good. But it's fun. And after the game, we eat dinner together, you know, or whatnot. And it's. But it's pretty chill. It's exciting, but it's pretty chill, right? Because it's super. You know, Russ is really serious about what he does and I think it's important that we respect that journey, that process for him.
- [58:37]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [58:38]
Ciara
You know, on a daily basis. So we try to make sure we kind of, you know, we. It's a combination of all that stuff.
- [58:44]
Unknown
Stuff.
- [58:45]
Ciara
I love it, but it's fun.
- [58:46]
Unknown
I'm thinking of you saying you're also in the car with your babies. I'm like, do you play them your music? Do they know moms?
- [58:51]
Ciara
Okay. When it's new.
- [58:52]
Unknown
Okay.
- [58:53]
Ciara
I don't like playing my music back. To me, I just feel like I get it. That's kind of weird sometimes.
- [58:59]
Unknown
Do you think?
- [58:59]
Ciara
But I'm not gonna lie to you.
- [59:00]
Unknown
Oh, tell me.
- [59:02]
Ciara
When I have a song that I really love, I might listen to myself a little bit, you know, Just a little bit, you know. And my kids, they may pick my songs, like when I put it level up. They love that song. Song. I'm honestly, I'm not saying because it's my record, but I really love my song, how we roll. That's my jam. And I ain't gonna lie. I put it on the other day and played it back about seven times. I'm like, this song just feels so good. Like it's Mina, you know.
- [59:26]
Unknown
Also same with like Loki and brb. I was like, okay. Like it's, it's, it's a vibe. And I, I wonder if Russell plays it in the car for the kids while you're not there. He's like, guys, this is mommy.
- [59:38]
Ciara
He will, you know, he's really big on, like, guys, you gotta listen to mommy's music. He will make sure they know my music or hear it and listen to it. But he'll definitely make sure the kids, like, you know, support mommy, which is sweet. Like, they, I think one day it was like the kids were having a pick between one song and the other. I don't even know what the songs were, but one of them was mine and one wasn't. And he was like, you better pick your mom's song. You know, so like, let's be real.
- [60:01]
Unknown
We know who we support in this family.
- [60:03]
Ciara
Let's make sure. Sure we all, you know.
- [60:04]
Unknown
I love it.
- [60:05]
Ciara
Yes.
- [60:05]
Unknown
It's really cute because I'm sitting here and I'm like, you've won a Grammy. He's won a Super Bowl. Like, you guys are the ultimate power couple. And I think a lot of people look at you guys and envy you, obviously. And it's like, whoa, their life is so amazing. Like, when you do go through the hard moments, like, how do you guys level set each other? Like, what is the process of keeping each other grounded and keeping each other.
- [60:27]
Ciara
Like, being able to be honest and communicate, I think has been game changing for us. And even when it's ugly, sometimes it's gotta get a little, like I said, get a little ugly before we get to the pretty. But I just think some, like, there's nothing better for me than knowing, like, I was able to say what I felt fully and he heard me.
- [60:44]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [60:45]
Alex Cooper
And don't you like it too?
- [60:47]
Unknown
It's different in that type of relationship where, you know, like, you're, you're both trying to come back together and like, you both have the same goal. Like, no one's winning. No, we actually just have to hear each other understand it. Where in other relationships I've had, it's like, oh, this is just an ego thing. Like, I'm never gonna win because you aren't even listening to what I'm saying.
- [61:03]
Ciara
When you say the word toxic, it kind of rings a certain way for me because like I said, you earlier, I'm like, toxic things can do damage to you. It can be harmful to you. So the glorifying of things that are harmful to you will never be cool to me. Never be cool. Like, never be fly. Never be the way of, you know, it's just that's just not it to me. Me personally.
- [61:25]
Unknown
So you have this great relationship now, knowing the relationships you've had in the past of, like, sometimes you got to go through the bad to get to the good, like we said. So it is exciting for, I think, for women listening of, like, oh, like, even if you're in the trenches right now, listening to this and you're not in a healthy relationship or you're not feeling good about yourself or it's an abusive situation, whatever you're in, like, you can get out.
- [61:48]
Ciara
Yes.
- [61:49]
Unknown
And you can find happiness and you can find what you deserve. But again, again, patience, like, give yourself some grace. It can't happen overnight.
- [61:56]
Ciara
100.
- [61:56]
Alex Cooper
But it is nice to hear from.
- [61:58]
Unknown
You of, like, it can happen.
- [61:59]
Ciara
It can happen, baby.
- [62:01]
Unknown
Let's talk about your music, though, because like I said, we were all jamming to it in the office day. We were just, like, laughing. We were blasting it. We're like, how creepy. If she, like, rolls up and we're just, like, screaming your music. But now I'm like, I think you would have liked it. It would have been kind of fun.
- [62:12]
Ciara
I might jump in and dance with you. Hey, your epcc.
- [62:17]
Unknown
I need, need to understand.
- [62:18]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [62:19]
Unknown
Who is cece? Who is Sierra? Talk about the two.
- [62:22]
Ciara
So cece and Sierra connected. It's not an alter ego.
- [62:25]
Unknown
Okay.
- [62:25]
Ciara
But there is an energy that comes out when you say Cece. Like, I turn my lip up a little bit. She get a little stank with it. I'm from Atlanta, so, you know, there's a lot of soul in what we do there. And, you know, when I came up, it was obviously my nickname, but people would be like, you know when they say, go see, cc, Go, cc, Go go, cc, go see. Like, there's an energy that comes with that. There's a feeling that comes with that. And it's. You know, it's. I would say I just. I really. On this project, I wanted to make sure I had those core elements of what that is because that's something special for me from a music standpoint.
- [63:00]
Alex Cooper
Yeah.
- [63:01]
Ciara
Like, when you say go, cc. When you say go, cc, go, like, there's something about that that's just like a little. It's a little saucy, you know, and so, you know, that that's kind of it. It's not an alter ego, though.
- [63:14]
Unknown
Yeah, it's just like a little bit more of like. Yeah. Like a little sassy vibe.
- [63:19]
Ciara
She got a little more sass to her CC era. You know, if you talk to me and I'M in my, like, Sierra mode, and it depends on the situation. I try to, like, you know, like Michelle said, when they go low, you go high.
- [63:32]
Unknown
Yeah.
- [63:33]
Ciara
You know, that kind of thing. CeCe might. She might snap back a little bit. She might bite back a little bit. Just a little bit.
- [63:40]
Unknown
I love it.
- [63:40]
Ciara
I love it a little more, you.
- [63:42]
Unknown
Know, what do you want people to, like, feel when they're listening to this music? Like, is there a specific place you envision people listening to it? What's the vibe?
- [63:50]
Ciara
I feel like this music on this project is kind of like that perfect house party energy where you can, like, kick back, back if you want to. It's feel good. It's a little. It's a. It's a sexy record. But it's also, if you want to, like, chill back, people, if you want to roll up, roll up on the skates or roll up, literally, if you want to, you know, put toast up to it if you want to. My song, Two in Love, it's a slow record. That's a moment where I'm trying to remember. It's like one night Russ and I, like, had a little bit of a disagreement, and I'm like, gosh, like, the truth is, I'm just doing love, you know.
- [64:30]
Unknown
I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, this is like, really, like, all about how in love you are. And I love it.
- [64:36]
Ciara
So sweet. It's so sweet. Well, you know, it's that feeling on that record where it's like, you're upset. Like, you know, I watched this tick tock or something someone was doing and they were like, mad at each other. It's like, this is how couples do when you're mad. Like, but you still love each other. And, like, you slam the car. You let them in the car, but you slammed her heart. Yeah. Or you, like, gotta give them food. But you. You open the fridge with attitude and you close the fridge with attitude. Like, that kind of energy. So, like, on Two in Love, I'm like, like you. He always put his arms around me a certain way and, like, if he doesn't do it, I'm like. Like with someone, we're sleeping. I'm like, I feel that. Like. But I mean, I want to be mad too, but I want you to put your arm on me. Like, you know, I'm like, it's like all those kind of feelings. So before I put this project out, it's exactly like, like what I wanted it to be. And there's no better feeling than that.
- [65:23]
Unknown
Yeah. You now being able to do things on your own and figure out what you want to continue to sound like as your career continues to grow and expand. It's just truly was such an honor sitting with you today because, like, you are such an accomplished woman and, and sitting with you and getting any of the wisdom we can get from you today, Sierra. I know. I'm like, I'm taking it in. No, I'm like, everyone's writing notes. Like, you're just such an inspiration. And it's really surreal for me to sit down with you today because I'm such a fan. And thank you, thank you, thank you. And congrats on your baby.
- [65:54]
Ciara
Thank you.
- [65:55]
Unknown
So happy you're expanding the family. Maybe we'll see a number five. At one point.
- [66:00]
Ciara
You sound like Russ. Look, don't get crazy now, okay? Let's just go one baby at a time. Thank you. Thank you. I had so much fun. And congratulations to you. You were like killing it. Like, I think there was this new article on, about. About you and Forbes and you know, I mean, keep on doing what you're doing. You're obviously doing. You're obviously giving a platform for women. You've created a platform for women that is very important and critical. And your personality is incredible. So keep on shining your light.
- [66:29]
Unknown
Thank you.
- [66:29]
Ciara
Yeah.
- [66:30]
Unknown
Thank you. Cheers.
- [66:31]
Ciara
Woohoo.
- [66:32]
Unknown
We did it.
- [66:33]
Ciara
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