
This week, Father Cooper is joined by Emma Chamberlain for her first official in person sit down interview. The pair discuss Emma’s high school days and cover everything from being an only child, her parents divorce, and ultimately her decision to drop out and pursue Youtube full time (OH and they also discuss the classic high school dick pic). Alex and Emma open up and reflect on the fears associated with being a content creator... Who am I outside of the content I post? Is there any room for mistake? Can I do this forever? In response to all of this, Alex then asks Emma, “Have you ever considered just quitting?”. Daddy Gang, enjoy part one of this two part interview with Emma Chamberlain.
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Alex Cooper
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Emma Chamberlain
I am so excited.
Alex Cooper
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Emma Chamberlain
Go to siriusxm.com unwell call her daddy.
Alex Cooper
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Unknown
Daddy.
Emma Chamberlain
Daddy.
Unknown
Are we ready? When is the last time you did an interview?
Emma Chamberlain
Oh, my God. Not ever. Face to face? I don't think I've ever done an interview face to face.
Unknown
I. Okay, well, let's start. Emma Chamberlain.
Emma Chamberlain
Hi, Alex Coopie.
Unknown
Welcome to Call Her Daddy Coopie. Oh, my God. We're on like, nickname terms. Emma, welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Emma Chamberlain
Thank you so much.
Unknown
So my first question for you is. You don't do interviews. Yeah, why are you here?
Emma Chamberlain
Okay. Well, number one. Alex.
Unknown
Yes.
Emma Chamberlain
I'm a big fan. Like, I've been a big fan of you forever. I don't know how. Like, I wish I knew my discovery story of you. The clock. Clock.
Unknown
Honestly, like, don't. Don't drag me.
Emma Chamberlain
Like, I did. Let me tell you. Like, I. I found you and things were very sexual.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
And I learned a lot. Wow. Yeah.
Unknown
Makes me so happy.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah. So, like, that's how I found you. I think I. I was really just, like, looking for advice on how to be crazy. But then, like, in turn, I fell in love with you.
Unknown
Oh, my God. So we're just. This is a big love fest.
Emma Chamberlain
It's such a.
Unknown
We're about to just talk about how we're in love with each other.
Emma Chamberlain
I know. Foreign.
Alex Cooper
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Unknown
Quickly to give people context that are listening of our story. I was thinking about this the other day. So Emma and I have, we're like represented by the same agency. And this was like right when I started the show, like the single father era of taking the show on by myself. And I was starting to have guests on and I remember my agent was like, do you want to meet with Emma Chamberlain? And I'm like, absolutely sure. We get on zoom and we zoom for like an hour and a half and we wouldn't shut the up and we won't talk about what we were talking about because it was like everything. Our publicist just kept being like, this is off the record, this is off the record. This is off the record. Emma, don't tell her that. I'm like, I'm not going to go say anything, but. So we just start talking. But it was a weird moment because I think my brand was still very sexual.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
So we said we were going to potentially have like a collaboration. You were going to come on. It never ended up happening. It just wasn't the right time. Then the next time we saw each other was New York Fashion Week.
Emma Chamberlain
I think that that's what really like, I was like, I don't even care what we talk about. Like, I need to do this because we just clicked so well and we just like talked about so much random shit and like we just clicked so well.
Unknown
Yeah, we were. It was kind of funny because we were to give people again, context. It was like a 10 person dinner party and Emma and I are in the corner. While I was eating bread, you weren't, because you're about to go to the Met gala.
Emma Chamberlain
I'm like getting a facial done and getting my toes done while I'm at.
Unknown
The table and we just were talking by ourselves the entire time. We just felt like life and the industry and how it's affected us. And it was like. I think that was when we're like, maybe we are eventually now ready to sit down and just converse because both of our brands have evolved.
Emma Chamberlain
Absolutely.
Unknown
And it's time.
Emma Chamberlain
Well, I think it was one of those things where, you know, I have been on the Internet for so long that people know me as a teenager.
Unknown
Yes.
Emma Chamberlain
And I'm 20. I'm about to be 21, which is still literally, like a child. Like, I still am, like, prepubescent. Like, I know I'm 21, but whatever. Or almost 21. But I've been really trying to grow, like, in the public eye in a way, because I'm. I can't stay a teenager in everybody's mind forever. But I think I needed to do some of that work on my own before I came on here and was like, let's talk about big girl stuff.
Unknown
You're like, so the Gluck Lock 9000. And I'm like, emma, last time I.
Emma Chamberlain
Tried the Gluck Lock a year ago, and you guys won't believe what happened.
Unknown
Impeccable result. No joke.
Emma Chamberlain
Impeccable. I almost got married six times.
Unknown
That is helpful to hear you say. And we're going to get into that, like, the evolution of you and then the evolution also of your brand, because those are two different things. And I think as creators, like, in a great way, I think people have started to kind of peel back the layer and show people on the Internet, like, what it is like to have an online Persona versus, like, what is actually who you are. Verse that Persona.
Emma Chamberlain
Absolutely.
Unknown
So here we go. Just like I usually do in every Call of Daddy episode. We're going all the way back. Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
All the way back.
Unknown
Where did you grow up?
Emma Chamberlain
So I grew up in San Bruno, California, which is actually where YouTube headquarters is, which is ironic. A little bit of foreshadowing. I grew up with my parents. I was an only child. And when I was five, we're, like, already getting into my drama. No, When I was 5, my parents got divorced, and my mom moved, like, 20 minutes away from my dad. And that was actually not a super bad experience because I was so young that I just didn't really know any better. I was definitely a really bored kid because I was an only child. And, like, my parents were both, like, fully working parents. And so I had a lot of time by myself, and I was very bored a lot of the time, which I think is good. In retrospect, I think it was good because it made me a lot more curious, I would say, because I didn't have a lot of distractions. You know, it's a Silicon Valley, it's a big tech area and a lot of kids there are super smart and there's this crazy pressure to go to a really good college. Especially Stanford is like, you know, the big school there that everybody tries to go to. And there's also a lot of wealthy families too. And like, so a lot of people assume that if you live there you're wealthy. But that was not the case for me and my family at all. But a lot of people there are very wealthy. There's like a very big gap, I would say, between it's like very, very, very wealthy and then like very like lower middle class and like definitely an in between for sure, but not as much an in between. It felt like there was a very stark difference. But I, you know, my dad's an artist so like I felt more on the, you know, lower middle class side of it, which was tough.
Unknown
But did you feel like your family didn't fit in?
Emma Chamberlain
For sure. We're living in a one bedroom apartment and all my friends at school are living in these massive mansions. It was tough socially, I would say. I didn't want to have people over, that's for sure.
Unknown
So your parents are in some of your content. They seem very chill. How do you describe your parents?
Emma Chamberlain
So we'll start with my dad. My dad is very open minded and creative, but also very wise. Dad, this is, you know, this boy is the love of my life. And he's like, Emma, that dudes of the. That's the worst dude I've ever met. Like he's really, I'm like, dad, what the fuck?
Unknown
He's incredible, dad.
Emma Chamberlain
I'm like, but he's so hot. Dad, what are you talking about? No, but he like, he's very open minded and very sweet and very like creative and you know, not super controlling or super pushy or anything like that. But he also is opinionated because he has a lot of knowledge and wisdom about things. So he's not sweet and in creative in the way that makes him a pushover. He'll tell me what he thinks, but he also gives me the freedom to like make the mistakes and he's always done that, so. And he never judges me. But a very, very cool man, the coolest person I know. I mean he like paints paintings and surfs every day and like that's his Job is painting paintings and selling them and, like, started making YouTube videos before I did. Like, he's very cool, right? My mom is. How do I describe my mom? She's like one of the girls. You know what I mean? She's very lovable. I tell her everything. Like, everything. And I have no hesitation. Like, she knows everything I've ever done in my whole life. Got it. So I'm very, very close with her, but we're. We're more like sisters, I would say. Like, you know, we used to butt heads a lot when I was growing up. And, you know, because she's picky, she's very, like, likes to keep the house clean and likes to have things folded a certain way. And she's very particular about things like that. Very meticulous woman about everything that she does, which is a very admirable quality. But when you're growing up and, you know, you don't know how to fold a blanket properly, like, it can cause some problems.
Unknown
Absolutely.
Emma Chamberlain
But no, we. At the end of the day, we're very close. And even when we do fight, like literal sisters, like, she's always there.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
I'm really lucky that, you know, my parents have always been very. Not like traditional parents. Like, they're very sibling like.
Unknown
Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
And I think it's because they didn't even consider themselves to be the type to be parents ever. And so they had me because they wanted to, but they were like, we don't fit the parent mold, so we're just going to do it in our own way. And it's been great.
Unknown
I know you said, like, you didn't know any different, but do you now, looking back, like, how did your parents divorce affect you?
Emma Chamberlain
Well, you know, I think in one. In one way. And this is no one's fault. Right. Like, I'm grateful for their divorce, and I'll say that before I, like, go in. And, you know, it was, number one, what was best for them and for their happiness. Number two, like, I never saw them fight. I never saw them argue. They divorced before it could ever become traumatizing in that way for me. And that's really mature. And also, they're still friends and they talk all the time. I mean, I'm really lucky in that way, too. Like, they get along great. Like, they talk all the time, and they're so supportive of one another. So it's not been a negative thing in that way. But I will say that, for one, not having a relationship to look up to when you're growing up does become A little bit jarring when you're older and you're like, okay, I'm in my first relationship. What is this supposed to look like? I don't know. I've never seen it.
Unknown
Did you wish you had had siblings?
Emma Chamberlain
You know? No. Because again, like, my relationship with my parents was so close. Because it wasn't. There was nothing in the way of it. Right. Like, each parent was not in the way of my relationship with the other parent. And also, I didn't have a sibling in the way of my relationship with my parents. And listen, I think it could have been really fun to have a sibling. I don't know, I'll never know, right? But I liked the friendship I was able to develop with my parents in the closeness. And I don't think I would have had that if I had a sibling.
Unknown
What do you remember about signing up for your first social media account?
Emma Chamberlain
I had two older cousins. Well, I have two older cousins. They're three years older than me. And they were like my idols, you know, growing up. And they got Snapchat and they're like, emma, babe, it's time to download Snapchat on the ipod Touch. And I was like, you got it, girls, let's go. And so I downloaded Snapchat. And, you know, we would just send each other silly stuff back and forth. Pretty soon after that, Instagram came out and I was like, all right, here we go. So I downloaded that too. I think my cousins told me to download that too. And my first post was a picture of a mini bag of Cheez its with like some crazy ass filter on top of it. And I think my caption was something like, crunchy. Yum. Like, what the fuck?
Unknown
Thinking back to, like, the first, like, couple, like the first year of Instagram, we would have, like, borders on our photos and, like, disgusting filters.
Emma Chamberlain
I know. Yes.
Unknown
You would take a picture of like, your shoe and you're like an extension cord.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
And be like, life's long. And then you're like, what am I saying? It was dumb shit.
Emma Chamberlain
So weird. Like, I would. I would do anything to be able to find my old Instagram.
Unknown
I don't know if I would.
Emma Chamberlain
No, I would.
Unknown
I'm, like, traumatized. I'm like, what the fudge was I posting? Because I was, like, a little older and I was, like, trying to be cool, like, with the cute selfies. Yeah. And those were not. Not cute selfies.
Emma Chamberlain
Those were scary and spooky.
Unknown
What did your. Did your parents have any rules or guidelines when you, like, first started on Snapchat and Instagram or did they just kind of let you do whatever you wanted?
Emma Chamberlain
Honestly, they didn't care.
Unknown
Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
Like, really just never brought it up. Like, they didn't care because.
Unknown
Were you getting in trouble as a kid? Like, were you a good kid or.
Emma Chamberlain
I was a really good kid. I had. Because of my anxiety as a kid, I think I had a really strong conscience, which is good. You know what I mean? I never did anything bad without my parents finding out about it 24 hours later. So they knew that I would tell them, like, if I did something wrong, my conscience would force me to report it back to them.
Unknown
Got it.
Emma Chamberlain
I don't know what that stems from. I don't know why that is, but I was very transparent with them. And so when it came to things like social media, they were like, she's not gonna do. She's not.
Unknown
She's harmless.
Emma Chamberlain
Not a bad kid. Like, she's just not gonna do bad shit on there. And. And I didn't. Because I just didn't even know how to do bad stuff. I'm like, I, like, didn't know what bad stuff was.
Unknown
Right.
Emma Chamberlain
I did have a kick that just reminded me. I had a kick that I used for, like, just kids at school messaging kids at school.
Alex Cooper
I forgot.
Emma Chamberlain
And then I would get, like, dick pics and kick. And then I got super scared, like.
Unknown
So is that the first time you saw a penis?
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
Terrifying.
Emma Chamberlain
Oh, I was so fucking. I was like, I don't actually think I am sexually attracted to anything.
Unknown
You're like, I do. I do not know what I like, but I don't like that.
Emma Chamberlain
I don't like that. And so, like, who knows what's next?
Unknown
Isn't it so sad that, like, when you. If you get a dick pic and that's the first penis you see, like, you're, like, not attracted to it? Like, I was terrified. It makes you scared.
Emma Chamberlain
I was scared of penises until probably, like, I was 16.
Unknown
Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
Like, seriously, Like, I was like, I think not scared of them, but I was like, that is such a. For, like, it was so alien to me.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
Because I didn't have siblings, so it's not like I had a little brother where, like, I, like, saw him growing up, and, like, I saw a boy, like, exist. I didn't have a lot of guy friends. Like, so to me, like, a penis. I was like, I. I can't. I don't know what that is. Like, it scared me.
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Unknown
You really are insane.
Emma Chamberlain
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Unknown
Everybody that listens to my show knows that I was obsessed with Hannah Montana growing up.
Emma Chamberlain
Same.
Unknown
Okay. Because I was gonna ask you. I'm like, who were you idolizing and watching when you were growing up that you were obsessed with?
Emma Chamberlain
Well, I have to give a few from the years. Give it. Okay. My first YouTube obsession was Fred. Do you remember Fred?
Unknown
Oh, my iconic.
Emma Chamberlain
Iconic.
Unknown
I completely forgot about that.
Emma Chamberlain
Well, I, like, got on YouTube super young, too, because, like, you know, my dad was into YouTube. He was singing covers on YouTube when it first came out, and so he found out about it and was like, emma, this is great. And we didn't have cable, so he's like, here you go, little one. You know, you don't get cable, but you do get this, babe. Enjoy.
Unknown
It's a pretty good trade.
Emma Chamberlain
No, it was great. I loved it. So I got super into YouTube. Super young. Loved Fred. Then as I grew a little bit older, it was Jonas Brothers for me in Hannah Montana.
Unknown
Which one was your favorite?
Emma Chamberlain
It kind of teetered between Nick and Joe. Sorry. Kevin. Honestly, Kevin's. Kevin's coming back. No, Kevin's. He's a fucking angel. He deserved. He deserved more.
Unknown
He did. He did. Have you ever met them?
Emma Chamberlain
I met. I've met Joe.
Unknown
I went to the Hannah Montana concert where it was like, half Hannah Montana, half the Miley show. And I remember the Jonas Brothers opened for them. And I remember my dad being like, I promise you, in, like, a year, everyone's gonna be obsessed with these guys. And I was like, no. And then I was obsessed. In a year, I was like, I love them. And then when, like, Nick had the diabetes thing, we Were all like devastated and everyone was obsessed and it was.
Emma Chamberlain
Like we were like, we will do anything to save him.
Unknown
Like, it was so dramatic.
Emma Chamberlain
No, I know.
Unknown
Okay, so you had Jonas Brothers, you liked Miley.
Emma Chamberlain
I loved Hannah Montana, Miley, all of that. Okay, I have to bring this up because it's so funny. Okay. But like when I was like 12, 13 and vine came out, I was a huge Magcon girl.
Unknown
Okay, that's okay.
Emma Chamberlain
No, it hurt to.
Unknown
Wait, why? Explain to why does it hurt?
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah, well, you know, let's. Let's explain this for people who don't know what magcon is. Basically there was a group of really hot. Well, okay, it's creepy to say that they're hot now that I'm 20.
Unknown
No, it's okay.
Emma Chamberlain
But, but like at the time I thought they were the hottest guys I'd ever seen. They were on vine doing absolutely nothing of substance.
Unknown
Right, right.
Emma Chamberlain
Which is fine, you know, like that's not their fault. Right. It's like for them it's exactly like TikTok. It's basically it was like a group of like really good looking kids that were on vine that were famous and they would like go on tours and do meet and greets and like meet all their young girl fans and like, you know, do weird on stage. That made no sense because they really, if you think about it, didn't necessarily have some sort of talent. Except for actually Shawn Mendes was in madcon and he is like now Shawn Mendes. So like it worked out for some of them. It was like Cameron Dallas and like Nash Greer. You know what I mean?
Unknown
I remember that. Yes.
Emma Chamberlain
I was obsessed with them. Like I. And they had YouTube channels and I would rewatch their videos like every night before bed. And I was like, one day like I'll meet a magcon boy and I'll be able to just date one of them. They'll fall in love with me. And like I was.
Unknown
I know a lot of people felt though.
Emma Chamberlain
Oh, for sure.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
But I will say that it like my crushes as a young person were all consuming. Like they were not like cute little mini crushes.
Unknown
Like I was obsessed feening for that.
Emma Chamberlain
I was feening. I don't. It was weird. Like in retrospect, I don't. It's so out of character.
Unknown
Right.
Emma Chamberlain
Like people would not assume that of me, but I've always been somebody that like when I have a crush on. So I'm not creepy. I don't like stalk anybody. But it is all consuming for me.
Unknown
I get that because Then you go to spiral down. Like, you watch every YouTube video and you watch every single possible thing that you consume of them, like interviews and everything. And then you're invested in their life. Yeah. And they don't even know who you are.
Emma Chamberlain
Nope.
Unknown
Well, now they probably do. Let's talk high school.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
You go to a private school. Yeah, I've seen the videos. You're wearing a plaid skirt.
Emma Chamberlain
Sort of plaid. It was. It was. I don't even fucking want to think about it. Yeah.
Unknown
Describe your high school.
Emma Chamberlain
So I had an interesting experience with high school because basically I was a really academically driven student.
Alex Cooper
Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
And so I was obsessed with the idea of going to a super prestigious college, and I was willing to do anything to get there. And so when it came time to choose what high school I was going to go to, the public schools in my area were not great. And I wanted to go to that. I wanted to go to a braggy, you know, super prestigious, like, you know, impressive school. And I was like, I can't get that if I go to these public schools. So I was like, mom and dad, I want to go to a private school. And I went and I toured this all girls Catholic school, had a really great education. And I was like, you know, this could actually be good. I really liked the environment when I toured the school and I was able to get financial aid so that I could financially go there because I would not have been able to afford it otherwise. And so there I went. I went to all girls Catholic school and I hated it after the first year. And I was like, I made a big mistake and I haven't seen a boy in a long time.
Unknown
And now those dick pics on kick.
Emma Chamberlain
Suddenly I'm trying to hack back into my cake to see those dick pics. Guys, anything.
Unknown
When you. So when you started high school. That's interesting to know. You did have college goals.
Emma Chamberlain
Oh, yeah.
Unknown
Where did you want to go?
Emma Chamberlain
I. My dream school was Columbia, which was, like, not gonna fucking happen. But, like, you know, actually, I mean, I was a good student. Like, I don't know how I was a good student.
Unknown
Okay. Why?
Emma Chamberlain
I, like, just knew how to do school for whatever reason. And so I got really good grades, like, always above a 4.0 every year. I. Listen, I don't fucking know how it's possible.
Unknown
Okay? Reflect.
Emma Chamberlain
I was like, really just. And I don't think that school is a great measure of intelligence. I'll be the first one to say it because I'm a fucking idiot in a lot of Areas. So, like, whatever. But I was good at school, so I was like, I'm gonna use this. And, you know, I wanted to go into the medical field. Like, I wanted to be an anesthesiologist.
Unknown
Wow.
Emma Chamberlain
But like, on what basis? One time I had anesthesia when I had a surgery, and the anesthesiologist. I see. I can't even fucking pronounce the word of that.
Unknown
Okay. No, it's you. Sounds good.
Emma Chamberlain
Whatever. It sounds good enough.
Unknown
Yeah, it is.
Emma Chamberlain
I dropped out of high school, so it's fine that I don't know how to pronounce it. Okay. Like, I didn't finish my education, so you can't expect too much from me. Like, I got a surgery once and was like, oh, this job seems chill. And then I looked up how much they make a year and I was like, oh, this job's super chill. This is a good.
Unknown
This is a good chill.
Emma Chamberlain
Like, you have to go to school for like 11 years, but, like, eventually.
Unknown
You'Ll get that check.
Emma Chamberlain
Why not?
Unknown
When did you have your first kiss? Like, if you're not with boys, like, when did you have your first kiss?
Emma Chamberlain
I had my first kiss freshman year on New Year's Eve.
Unknown
That's kind of cute.
Emma Chamberlain
No. Oh, it was not cute.
Unknown
No.
Emma Chamberlain
Actually, you know, in retrospect, it was fine. Like, it could have been a lot worse.
Unknown
Okay.
Emma Chamberlain
But it was pretty bad.
Unknown
How did you meet the guy then if you were at an old girl school?
Emma Chamberlain
Basically the all girls school had a corresponding all boys school. Right. And so we would kind of party with the boys from the all boys school and they had friends that they knew from middle school that were at other like co ed schools. And then we knew other girls that went to other co ed schools. So it kind of all like congealed. But I think that the thing that made it possible for the boys and girls to be together was the fact that that both boy and girl schools were desperate for each other.
Unknown
Got it.
Emma Chamberlain
You know what I mean?
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
So, and. And you know, there was like a distinct, like, okay, this is the corresponding boys school. So it was like we didn't see each other every day, but at football games we'd see each other and prom and things like that. Anyway, I actually ended up kissing a guy from like a school that was probably 30 minutes away that like came to a New Year's party that we were throwing the two schools and it was extremely set up.
Unknown
Those are the worst.
Emma Chamberlain
You know, it was like, oh, he's outside waiting now. Okay. But you also have to like, we paint a picture. Like I was a super late bloomer. I mean, I had like no boobs. Like, I looked really young. Like it was like I looked super young. Yeah, I always have. I even now look kind of young. A lot of people think I look young now, so I felt super. Also, I never felt like mature enough for like this type of behavior, you know what I mean? Because mentally I felt mature enough, but physically I didn't. I felt like I didn't fit the super feminine mold, right where you like have like boobs and like, you know, you wear like a low top and like, whatever. I could not participate in that. So I felt so uncomfortable when it was time to do anything with boys because I was like, I want to and like, I mentally feel ready, but outwardly I don't feel like I look ready. And I feel insecure of my appearance even though I know that in my brain, like, I'm ready and that I like love boys and in fact am like quite obsessed with boys. Like, but I didn't feel like I looked that way.
Unknown
What were you most insecure about? Appearance wise, I was super insecure about.
Emma Chamberlain
My boobs because which now I'm like, I love having small boobs. Like, it's the best thing ever. Like, I don't care. But you know, when I was younger, I like didn't have any boobs. Like, it wasn't just like, oh, there's no they flat. And you know, guys in middle school used to give me a hard fucking time about that. Like calling me, you know, like a door, like whatever, like shit like that. And which is fine, like, whatever. I'm friends with those kids now. Like, I forgive, but you know, it's good to, it's good to be forgiving. But I also, like didn't get my period until I was 16 and I felt like I wasn't a woman without it, you know, I was like.
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Unknown
You start making videos at one point in high school.
Emma Chamberlain
Yes.
Unknown
And when I was growing up, I was familiar with having a camera in my face because my dad is in the TV industry.
Emma Chamberlain
Yes.
Unknown
And so every single Christmas or birthday, there's cameras everywhere in my house. And so naturally, I knew I was the star. And I know that's cringe.
Emma Chamberlain
No, it's not cringe, though.
Unknown
I was like, dad, cue the cam. Here I come.
Emma Chamberlain
I meant to be right here.
Unknown
What do you remember about your early performances on a camera?
Emma Chamberlain
Well, I was always really obsessed with YouTube because as I mentioned earlier, I didn't have cable. And so I watched a lot of YouTube. And when I was, like, in fifth grade, I tried to make a YouTube video on my iPad.
Unknown
I wish we could watch it.
Emma Chamberlain
I wish we could watch it so bad. I need to find that iPad. Cause it has so much good shit on it. But my. My cousins and I were constant. Like, we were constantly making little videos during family vacations, during, you know, holidays, like, whatever. Constantly making little videos. Like, there were these imovie trailer templates that you could use so you could make, like a movie trailer, but imovie provided the template. So all you had to do is, like, film little things and then they would plug it in for you. And so we would do those all the time. So I was familiar and comfortable in that sense where, you know, my cousins and I were always obsessed.
Unknown
There is a big difference between recording something and then pressing upload on that. Like, you got to have balls to press upload for sure. What compelled you to press upload on your first YouTube video?
Emma Chamberlain
Well, my first YouTube video ever, I was in fifth grade, and I was like, I don't care. I. I didn't even want to, like, be famous. Like, I never thought I could, like, get any, like, recognition from it. I. To this day, I. I've always, like, looked at fame as an impossible thing. So I was like, I'm not gonna become famous from this. But I was like, even just like, a few people commenting will make me feel good post. And then of course, like, nothing happened. And then I deleted it like a week later. That was my very first one. But then, you know, when I was 16 and I uploaded, I honestly just. I was in such a shitty spot that I was like, I have nothing to lose. Like, I'm so depressed. I'm so unhappy. I, like, I want to do something that makes me feel good. And YouTube has always made me feel good. So I'm. I'm Just gonna pose on there.
Unknown
Did anyone from your high school, when they saw that, make fun of you or, like, say anything mean behind my back?
Emma Chamberlain
Yes. But never to my face. And I heard about people saying shit behind my back, but it's like, like.
Unknown
What were they saying?
Emma Chamberlain
They were just like, does she really think anything's gonna come of that? Which is, you know what? No, listen, fair enough. Like, if I would have seen someone from my high school posting on YouTube, I, number one, I would have said the same thing about them. I would have been like, really? Like, what's gonna come on, you guys? Like, it's not easy. But on the other hand, I was even saying that to myself. It wasn't like people were. It wasn't like I was posting YouTube videos, being like, I'm gonna make it big one day. You know, I was posting videos. Like, this is just a hobby for me. And like, even if I just get. Get 100 subscribers, like, that's fun. Like, I just a little community. And also, I enjoy making the videos. I enjoy the process of it. So what happened after I pressed upload? It was more just like, well, at least it lives somewhere.
Unknown
When did you go viral?
Emma Chamberlain
So about. About like two or three months after I started.
Unknown
That's crazy.
Emma Chamberlain
It was, you know, in. In. It was crazy. But I also think that a big reason for that was I was uploading every fucking day. Like, I was uploading every single day during the summer. And by the end of the summer, I had, like, something like 50 videos. And so I had such a collection already that it was easy. It didn't take as long because I was grinding. I mean, every day I was like, I need to make a video every day. And then I ended up cutting it down. And I was like, three days a week. And then I cut it down two days a week. And then I cut it down one day a week. But it was like. Like, in the beginning, I started and I was like, I just want to get as good at this as I can as quickly as possible. And then when that one video did really well.
Unknown
Which one?
Emma Chamberlain
It was this video where I went to the dollar store and I bought a bunch of, like, random and did, like, a fake haul. Like, I was kind of like, kidding around, doing a haul. And I was really proud of the video. And it, like, after two weeks, it had like half a million views or something. Or maybe it was like. Like it had a hundred thousand views after, like. Yeah.
Alex Cooper
And what.
Unknown
When that was happening, what were you doing? Like, were you telling your parents what.
Emma Chamberlain
Were you my parents? My dad was, like, super interested. He was like, I think you could really do something with this, actually. And I was like, okay, I don't. But thanks, Dad. I was like, dad, like, that is like one in a trillion. Like, why are we. Why are we. Let's not go there, because I'm just gonna get disappointed, you know? But he's like, I don't know, Emma. Like, I think if you really get good at this, like, something could come of it. When all of a sudden, like, so many people are watching. You're like, I actually cannot comprehend this number of people. I can't comprehend the fact that all of a sudden, now I'm making money. You know, I can't comprehend any part of this. So I'm just gonna go robot mode. And, like, just like, you know, you stop. Stop at a certain point, you stop processing it.
Alex Cooper
It's.
Unknown
It's a really weird thing to try to explain too, because it's not like you're a singer where you're, like, filling a stadium for a concert, so you're, like, making these things and pressing upload and then going to bed. And, like, yet it's crazy to see that number, but it still doesn't fully register that, like, whoa, like, half a million people just watched that video.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
It feels.
Emma Chamberlain
It's like a different metric in your brain.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
Like, it's like you're looking at it in a different. You're not looking at it as real people, but you're also not looking at it as just a number. There's this, like, weird in between way that your brain processes it.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
But it's. It's kind of. I think I knew subconsciously that if I looked into it too deeply and I thought about it too deeply, that I'd psych myself out myself over and ruin the whole thing. So I was like, I'm not gonna think. I'm just gonna just tunnel vision, keep going. And, like, I did that up until probably the last three months. And it has been really uncomfortable when. When you really, like, wake up and realize, like, oh, this is the situation. It's like I finally turned off my tunnel vision, and it felt like everything was like that had been building for four years, was now right in front of me, and I had never looked at it. You know what I mean?
Unknown
Yes. And we're gonna get into that because. Yes. But first.
Emma Chamberlain
Yes.
Unknown
Why did you drop out of high school?
Emma Chamberlain
So the summer of sophomore year, I started my YouTube channel because I was depressed, and I was like, my dad was like, you need a hobby. I said, okay. So I started my channel, and by the end of the summer, you know, I was making money. And I was like, and I've never made money, you know? And I was like, oh, shit, okay. This is actually pretty serious, you know? And I was loving it. And people at school were, like, respecting me because I had. They weren't being an asshole anymore. Some people still were, but, you know, people were, like, excited for me, and I was excited. And junior year, I was like, okay, I. This is the year I take hard classes. So I was taking, like, three AP classes. And long story short, it just was so I couldn't do schoolwork and YouTube. But I was like, obviously school work is more important. So I was like, okay, I'll just drop some of my classes and take easier classes. But then YouTube kept building, and I was like, I already took all the. Like, I'm just taking added to help me for college. And I started questioning, okay, am I even gonna go to college anyway, now that this YouTube thing is going the way that it is? I'm making an income now. I can support myself now. All of a sudden, by the end of the summer, I was like, I actually could support myself. I don't. It changed everything. And I was like, I don't think I need to be working this hard because I don't think I'm actually going to college anymore. I might try to ride this out, and then when this doesn't work out anymore, then I can go to college, even if I'm, like, 30. Like, who gives a fuck? You know? And so I took one of those standardized tests and just left school. Like, I kept basically dropping classes more and more until it got to a point where I was like, I just don't need to be here because I'm not. I'm number one. I'm not learning anything that is necessary. It was all stuff that was only really necessary for college. I had already taken all of the classes that I needed to that were, like, normal high school level. I was just doing added shit. What's the point of that? I was like, this is stupid. So I was out of there.
Unknown
How did you tell your parents and how did they react?
Emma Chamberlain
Honestly, it was kind of their idea. It was kind of like, it was not just my idea. I wasn't like, mom and dad, like, I want to leave school. They were like, you're so miserable in school, you know? Well, actually, at first we were thinking about homeschooling me.
Unknown
Interesting.
Emma Chamberlain
So actually, that was the first Idea. They were like, you, this is not. This structure is not working right. And so we toyed around with the idea of homeschooling me, but then after doing more research, we were like, okay, actually, just. Let's just cut it. Cut it because. And I know that I don't recommend people drop out of school, and I think that my situation was very unique because I was fortunate enough to get all of my general high school education out of the way in the first two years. And that's a really. Again, it would have been irresponsible to leave if that had not been completed. And I always. I actually have never said that out loud, I don't think. But I. I know it's kind of fun to be reckless and be like, I dropped out of school. Like, fuck that. But it was. It wasn't this super irrational, super irresponsible. I could have gone straight to college from that point that I was at. Got it. You know, so, like, I didn't need to. It wasn't fucking me over. I completed my high school credits. Like, I was done. You know what I'm saying?
Unknown
So how did your friends react when you told them, like, were you close with a lot of people in high school? Did you have a lot of friends.
Emma Chamberlain
The first year and a half of high school? Yes. But towards the end, no, I only really had one friend. And even. And she, like, knew everything about, like, she knew about how school was, like, affecting me negatively and how I just was depressed. So, like, I couldn't be social, you know, and I couldn't deal with the ebbs and flows of friendship. I just didn't have that in my. In me. And so she understood that, and she was kind of kept up to date on, like, how things were evolving. But she, you know, she was like. She had other friends. Like, she was so she was just like, peace, you know, everybody was just kind of like, peace. I really just disappeared one day.
Unknown
Honestly, if you could change one thing about that time in your life, what would it be?
Emma Chamberlain
Nothing. I really, you know, I have a lot of moments in my life that I look back at and cringe at, and I have a lot of moments that I regret. Like, for sure. And not regret. That's actually completely the wrong word. I have a lot of moments that I'm like, damn, I would do that so differently now. But I refuse to ever even think about how I would change things, because every bad experience has just made me me.
Unknown
Do you. Have you ever been had one of those moments, like, a little jealous of that like, classic college experience you see on TikTok, people are at the frat parties. Do you ever be like, okay, yes. What so you do? Is it more about like the social aspect that you kind of wish you could partake in?
Emma Chamberlain
I think the thing that I sometimes get a little bit upset about is like how quickly I had to grow up. And it sounds so, again, like, just so like, Emma, shut the up. But I don't think I realized when I left school and immediately started working how there's no leeway for me anymore. You know what I mean? There was no room for being a kid anymore. Like, it was like, okay, no, you have to get your act together because you're. Now you're saying, you know, that you can make a living on your own and that you're gonna make this shit work and that you're gonna make it last and that, you know, moving to LA is a good idea and that being friends with other, you know, YouTubers is a good idea. And, you know, having to do your own laundry and do your own dishes and cook for yourself and taxes, like there's so many facets of it that you're like, oh shit. You know, I didn't realize that, that this came with this, you know, by quitting school and by just going straight into being technically self employed, I was also saying that I could handle all those other things. My parents were very helpful with the technical stuff, but emotionally, you know, there's no way to prepare.
Unknown
College is basically four years of you to be able to fake act like an adult. Yes, you don't really have much responsibility, but you are on your own. And for you it was like, oh, wait, no, you actually do have responsibility because if you don't keep uploading, like, you don't have a job and you didn't apply to college. So like, where are we going? At 16 years old, you become famous on the Internet. How did people start treating you differently?
Emma Chamberlain
I would say at first not much changed. It was really interesting because, yes, I had a following on the Internet that if you look at it, you know, like a hundred thousand subscribers. That's a fuck ton of subscribers, right? But in the grand scheme of the world, people didn't really. They're like, eh, we'll see you at a million. Like, you know, this is. Yeah, whatever. My family was very skeptical. Like my outer family, they were kind of like, what is going on? You know, and so they didn't treat me any different. But they were definitely just like curious. A lot of people were really curious. But I didn't really have any friends, so I didn't have any friends. Reacting to, like, what was happening to me.
Unknown
When you say you didn't have any friends, did you feel lonely?
Emma Chamberlain
Yes. But I really wanted. Once I started to, you know, turn YouTube into my job, I started to feel like I couldn't really relate to kids in my high school as well. And so I was like, you know, I would still hang out with those kids, and we would have fun, and, like, that was fine, but there was a disconnect. And so I started looking to find people that were in this space that could be friends with me, and I ended up finding those friends, and that was really awesome. So, like. And we didn't live near each other, but I made quite a bit of friends on the Internet that were doing the same thing. And it was nice because there was a mutual understanding. And also, there was no weirdness. There was no questions about it. There was just, like, a unspoken understanding that was very special at the time.
Unknown
There's always the moment when you start getting recognized in public.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
When do you remember, like, the first time you got recognized?
Emma Chamberlain
So I go to Maine every summer with my family on vacation, and I had, like, 6, 000 subscribers. When I went the summer of sophomore year, like, 6, 000 subscribers. Okay. Which to me was like, oh, my God, all y'all. I'm popping off. I'm popping off. Y'all don't know me anymore. I'm different now. No, but so I'm. I'm on vacation in Maine, and this girl comes up to me and, like, asks me for a photo. Now I had 6,000 subscribers. I thought that this was a real interaction. My grandma set that up.
Unknown
No, you're like, oh, my God, you guys, I just got asked for a picture.
Alex Cooper
Your grandma.
Emma Chamberlain
I'm already getting a big head. Grandma, do not play with me like this. Holy shit. No, but it was. It was sweet. It was sweet.
Unknown
That's actually so cute.
Emma Chamberlain
It was hilarious.
Unknown
Eventually, though, you did start to gain attention. How did you handle initially getting noticed in public and, like, the attention at first?
Emma Chamberlain
I've actually gone through phases with it. Like, in the very beginning, I was stoked, and I was like. So I was like, this is so awesome. Like, it was. You know, my dream was coming true. Right. It was so fucking cool. And it was. And then, you know, I've gone through ebbs and flows where it's made me a little anxious because if I'm not in a good spot, like, I'll get Anxious about not being in a good spot mentally. And I'm like, is this showing? Like, I don't want. I started getting anxiety about giving these people, like, the best experience they could possibly have meeting me. And then that kind of got into my head. But I didn't have that thought in the very beginning, so that came into play later.
Unknown
It feels like no one hates you. And I'm gonna take notes right now because I'm a little bit more polarizing. Why do you think you're so lovable?
Emma Chamberlain
I don't feel that I am. And I think that really. I mean, I've gone through the ringer.
Unknown
Really? In what way?
Emma Chamberlain
Well, so there was, like. There's been chunks of time throughout my experience on the Internet where I've been, like, widely disliked. You know, whether people thought I was annoying or people like. Or like, it's interesting, like, there's just been periods of time when people have just not liked me and the general conversation around me has been negative. The thing that's really interesting about it is that. That I noticed this just from talking to other people in this space. A lot of people, they're so hyper focused on themselves, as they should be. We're human. Right. So, like, I perceive you and I'm like, you're. Nobody hates you. Right. But see you. Because I'm not seeing people giving you. Right. Whereas, like, you're not seeing people give me. Everybody gets. And so everybody their own perception of their own career. And, like, general likeness is not right.
Unknown
Right.
Emma Chamberlain
It's skewed in a. In a negative direction for everybody individually. I look at any other personality on the Internet, and unless they're like, genuinely.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
Just a bad fucking person and everyone knows it. Unless that's what's going on generally, like, nobody's gonna see. See it except for you.
Unknown
Yeah. Like, it's almost like you. Everyone ebbs and flows with hate and love.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
If you're putting content out there.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
And also everyone's memory is so short on. If people don't give a. No, they act like they do. Because it's fun to, like, get together in a group and be like, yeah, let's cancel this person. But then in a week, if they're like, oh, my God, like, you're doing this, and then they love you and it just ebbs and flows. But that is a good point to say, like. Like to hear from you saying, like, you do get hate.
Emma Chamberlain
Yeah.
Unknown
To summarize, like, what do they hate you for?
Emma Chamberlain
I mean, I would say that, like, when I was a lot younger. I edited in, like, a really, like, fast paced, like a kind of, you know, flashy way. And it was kind of like. And I thought it was, like, funny and annoying, and that's why I liked it. I was like, I think this is just, like, funny and entertaining and, like, it's not serious, like, whatever. But some people just found that annoying. And we're like, why the do people want to watch this? Which I totally get, because that's not. Everybody was gonna like the style of editing in my personality. I was a loud kid. I was a, you know, outgoing kid, and people just thought I was annoying. So that was, like, one thing. But then also, I think a big part of it was just like, when you become successful, people just are gonna nitpick just about anything.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
And so. And I understood that. I was like, I get it. Like, I'm, you know, I'm a target and I understand that. And I think some of it might have been from jealousy, and some of it just might have been from, like, people just simply not enjoying me. And, like, that's fair, but it doesn't make it not hurt. You know, I can't blame people. I get the culture of the Internet, but it still sucks.
Unknown
It does suck, you know. Well, it's hard because then you get all these good comments and then you see one and you're like, it sticks with you. And then it's like, wait, all these people are actually, like, telling you how great you are and they love the content. Then you see one and then you're like, my whole day sucks.
Emma Chamberlain
It's always that way.
Unknown
Yeah.
Emma Chamberlain
You think you can, and you might have a good moment where you're like, oh, this doesn't bother me. But it always comes back.
Unknown
Is there anything that made you almost quit?
Emma Chamberlain
I will say there has been a lot of times where I've almost quit. So this is.
Unknown
Call her daddy.
Emma Chamberlain
Yes, I have had sex. Alex. There's a lot of of room to get over when you're being friends with people in your industry. And that's something that I really struggled with. This person's, like, profiting off of me in some way. I don't think that they actually care about me. And these, like, YouTubers who are maybe more established, they. I think that they knew that they could kind of push you around. Push me around a little bit. Not only on camera, but off. Like, you are using me. I can can tell you if I went and addressed every rumor or every fake blah, blah, blah, blah about me, you know, I wouldn't that would be actually my full time job. Like I just feel so out of control of the public perception of me. I remember my ex boyfriend, one of his friends was like dude, like she doesn't actually like you. Like she. I don't think she actually likes you. Like she's. I think she likes girls and the psychological damage is quite. It is crazy.
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Call Her Daddy: Emma Chamberlain - Part 1 (FBF) Release Date: February 14, 2025 Host: Alex Cooper
In this special Valentine's Day episode of Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper welcomes renowned internet personality Emma Chamberlain for an intimate, candid conversation. As the most-listened-to podcast by women since its inception in 2018, Call Her Daddy dives deep into Emma's journey, exploring her rise to fame, personal challenges, and the evolution of her brand.
Growing Up in San Bruno, California
Emma opens up about her childhood in San Bruno, California, highlighting the stark contrasts between her family's financial status and the affluent environment surrounding her.
Emma Chamberlain [09:01]:
"I grew up with my parents in a one-bedroom apartment while my friends lived in massive mansions. It was tough socially, and I didn't want to have people over."
Parents' Divorce and Its Impact
At the tender age of five, Emma's parents divorced, leading to her mother relocating just 20 minutes away from her father. Surprisingly, Emma views this separation positively, emphasizing the mature handling by her parents.
Emma Chamberlain [13:40]:
"I never saw them fight or argue. They remained friends and supportive of each other, which was a blessing."
Describing Her Parents
Emma paints a vivid picture of her parents, portraying them as unconventional and deeply connected.
Emma Chamberlain [11:07]:
"My dad is the coolest person I know—open-minded, creative, and wise. My mom is like one of the girls; she's meticulous and lovable. We're more like sisters."
First Foray into Social Media
Emma recounts her initial steps into the digital world, influenced by her cousins who introduced her to Snapchat and Instagram.
Emma Chamberlain [15:23]:
"My first Instagram post was a picture of a mini bag of Cheez-Its with a crazy filter. It was so weird, but I loved making those connections."
Creating Content and Going Viral
Starting her YouTube channel in fifth grade, Emma shares how consistent content creation led to her early viral success.
Emma Chamberlain [37:51]:
"About two or three months after I started, one of my videos went viral with half a million views. It was surreal and changed everything."
Dropping Out of High School for YouTube
Turning her passion into a profession, Emma discusses the pivotal decision to leave high school to focus on her burgeoning YouTube career.
Emma Chamberlain [26:04]:
"I realized I might not go to college anymore because my YouTube was taking off. By the end of the summer, I was making enough to support myself."
Navigating an All-Girls Catholic School
Emma describes her challenging experience at an all-girls Catholic school, highlighting feelings of isolation and the desire to distance herself from the traditional social mold.
Emma Chamberlain [25:48]:
"I hated it after the first year. I felt like I wasn't fitting into the super feminine mold and was uncomfortable interacting with boys."
Insecurities and Personal Growth
Delving into her personal insecurities, Emma candidly discusses body image issues and the pressure to conform to societal standards.
Emma Chamberlain [30:09]:
"I was super insecure about my appearance, especially my lack of physical maturity. Guys would tease me, and I felt like I didn't fit in."
Handling Public Recognition
Emma explores the complexities of sudden fame, from the excitement of gaining followers to the anxiety of public interactions.
Emma Chamberlain [51:19]:
"At first, it was awesome. But as my subscriber count grew, the pressure to give people a perfect experience started to make me anxious."
Dealing with Public Scrutiny and Criticism
Addressing the inevitable rise in online criticism, Emma shares her strategies for coping with negative feedback and the emotional toll it takes.
Emma Chamberlain [55:05]:
"When you become successful, people nitpick every aspect of you. It hurts, but I understand the internet culture and can't blame people for their perceptions."
Maintaining Authenticity Amidst Pressure
Emma discusses the struggle to stay true to herself while navigating the demands of her online persona and the expectations of her audience.
Emma Chamberlain [48:45]:
"I often feel the pressure to grow up quickly and handle responsibilities I wasn't prepared for, like managing finances and personal relationships."
Potential Moments of Quitting
Reflecting on moments when she considered stepping away from the spotlight, Emma emphasizes the importance of community and self-awareness in overcoming these challenges.
Emma Chamberlain [55:29]:
"There have been many times I almost quit. Balancing personal relationships and the constant scrutiny was mentally exhausting."
Embracing Growth and Change
As the conversation wraps up, Emma expresses gratitude for her journey, acknowledging both the highs and lows that have shaped her into who she is today.
Emma Chamberlain [46:38]:
"Every experience, good or bad, has made me who I am. I wouldn't change a thing, even if there are moments I cringe at."
Looking Ahead
While the episode concludes, viewers are left anticipating the continuation of Emma's story in Part 2, eager to hear more about her personal and professional evolution.
Emma Chamberlain [09:01]:
"Growing up alone made me more curious and less distracted."
Emma Chamberlain [15:23]:
"Social media was just a hobby for me initially, but it turned into so much more."
Emma Chamberlain [26:04]:
"Leaving school wasn't irrational; I had already completed my necessary credits."
Emma Chamberlain [55:05]:
"Understanding that criticism is part of the internet culture helps, but it still hurts."
In this heartfelt and revealing episode, Emma Chamberlain opens up about her journey from a socially isolated child in San Bruno to a global internet sensation. Her candid discussions about family, personal struggles, and the pressures of fame offer listeners an authentic glimpse into the life of one of today's most influential online personalities. As Call Her Daddy continues to shed light on the stories behind the stars, Emma's revelations serve as both inspiration and a reminder of the human side of digital fame.