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Heidi Klum: Sorry He Didn’t Pick You (FBF)
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Join Alex in the studio for a sit-down interview with supermodel Heidi Klum! Heidi reflects on her childhood growing up in Germany and the modeling competition that ultimately launched her career. She tells Alex what really goes on behind the scenes at a Victoria’s Secret Fashion Show and gets into her all time craziest fan interactions. Later, the two discuss Heidi’s love of Halloween, why she’s always naked, her $2 million legs, and the ballsiest move a date ever pulled on her. Heidi also dishes on her sex life, tries to sell Alex on a worm vibrator and sends a clear message to all the haters who have something to say about her age. Finally, Heidi gives the Daddy Gang some much needed advice about falling out of love, prioritizing yourself, and knowing when it’s time to walk away. If you want some fun girl talk vibes in your life, then this is the episode for you. Enjoy!
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B
Thank you so much for having me. Hi everyone.
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A
Oh my God. Do you usually do that voice when.
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B
I'm trying not to be annoying? Because my voice is always very high because I don't know why because I'm always excited. I don't know if it's excitement even when I'm not excited. It's annoying and high. But I could put it down here if I really wanted to. Oh my God.
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A
If you ever got in a fight with your husband, would you be like Listen to me.
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B
Well, then he would maybe listen to me.
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A
Yeah, you get super.
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B
No, but with this annoying voice, I never have to say anything twice. You know, it's perfect. Everyone can hear me at all times. I'm always, like, loud and annoying, and it just pierces through the whole house. I have four kids, so everyone hears everything at all times.
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A
Have people told you you have annoying voice? I never thought this. Really? Of course I love your voice.
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B
No, I wouldn't know.
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A
Like, the accent, the vibe. I love it. Well, today I'm going to hype you up and tell you I actually love your voice. So anyone that told you you don't have a good voice, you're like, well, it's my children, Alex. I'm like, oh, okay. Love you, heart.
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B
My daughter might come by because she's obsessed.
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A
Oh, my God, I hope she does. I saw you guys at the Golden Globes together. You walked the carpet. You guys looked amazing.
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B
Thank you.
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A
Is it fun to go to events with your daughter now?
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B
It is, but she is, you know, I'm more easygoing, and she's like, I mean, I put on a dress. It fits. I'm like, good to go. She is like, I don't know. Let's try this, let's try that. She literally did her bun, like, I want to say, three times. So I don't know, is she gonna.
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A
Be like, mom, why the did you blow up my spot on call her daddy?
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B
Oh, yeah. Plus, when I say something, you know, it's never good what I say in any case, because, like, what do you know? You old. And you know, this is not how we do these things now. It's 2024. You know, it is so crazy to.
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A
Even hear that because, like, to the world, I'm like, you're Heidi Klum. You're so freaking iconic. And then your daughter's like, mom, you're like, old. Shut up. You don't know anything. This is what we do on Tik Tok. And you're like, no, I know.
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B
No, but it's true. No, I really don't. I mean, I can't even upload anything on TikTok. I am on there, but I need to have someone to put it on for me. Especially when I do the stop and start stuff. I can't figure it out. It's literally like, I can't figure it out.
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A
I love how you're addressing everyone in this room. You're, like, making eye contact with everyone. You're. You can look at how to do it.
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B
No, no. They're not here.
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A
They're not here. They're not here. They're not. Heidi, you are cracking me up. Okay, so you're from Germany.
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B
Yes.
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A
What do you miss about Germany when.
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B
You'Re not A whole lot.
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A
Really.
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B
No, I mean, apart from my parents, my brother, the occasional sausage. But then again, I found great sausages now here too, so we're good. Also, the potatoes are a little different. And yes, we are potato heads from Germany, so we have different kind of potatoes. Like, if I want a potato to stay hard after boiling, I have a very hard time finding that one here. They all kind of, like, get very flowery and they fall apart.
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A
Let's just clarify. Sausages. You mean actual ingredients eating sausages? Not the dicks in Germany?
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B
Well, no, I'm talking about. Well, I have a German husband.
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A
I love the German sausage in the end.
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B
Yes. I mean, I have had many different sausages, but I ended up with a German one. Yes. Okay, German sausages. What can I say?
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A
Let's talk about that German sausage.
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B
The one that I buy here or the one that I have at home? Home all the time. Which one are we talking about?
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A
Let's talk about the sausage you have at home. Your German husband. Okay. What do German guys bring to the table that American men are lacking?
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B
I don't know. I mean, that's like. I don't know. I mean, what we have together because he's German, we have the same roots. You know what I mean? So the little sayings that we have or experiences, Even though I'm 16 years older than him, we have the same kind of understanding. It's just different. You know, when you come from the same place, you hear the same kind of German Oompa Loompa songs that we have there. He knows them all.
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A
We give it to us.
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B
I mean, okay, now I'm thinking of a stupid one like Alamein. Like, you know, the little Duck song. I know. It's, like, dumb. It's just like one little kid song. But we have so many of those things, you know, that we just have in common that no one here would understand what we're talking about.
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A
Right. The American sausages don't have the. The history that you have with the German sausages. Yes, I appreciate that answer. Okay, okay. You were discovered at 18 years old when you won a national modeling competition. I'm curious, like, what was your friends and family reaction? Were they like, oh, that's just Heidi. Of course she did. Or was it a big deal when you won?
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B
It was a big deal. When I won, because it was all over the news. It was on television for six months. So it was a very long competition, you know, and you had to win the week, the month, and then in the end, it was six girls from six months. You know, each week they were showing girls on television. And in the end, I won that thing, and I won 300,000 Deutsch Mark, which is. I have no idea what that would be in dollars today. Maybe, like $150,000.
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A
Oh, wow.
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B
So I'm, like, 18 years old, and I got all that dough, and obviously that was, like, a big deal. And it was in the newspapers everywhere. My. My town is small, so, you know, the. The butcher or the bakery, you know, they. Since you're, like, little, and all of a sudden the newspapers are full of you, and so they're like, you know, they look at you all of a sudden differently. And then I went to Milan, I went to London, Paris, and it was very hard for me to get any jobs over there. And I just thought, like, hey, I just won this contest. Like, what's next? There was nothing next. So, you know, I went to thousands of castings, and people were always like, why are you so happy? Maybe skip a meal. You're a little bit on the fat side, or, you know, those types of things. And I was like, really? And then I left Europe and I went to America, went to Miami for a hot minute, and went on castings there. I mean, that was also crazy because you go to a casting and you're like, number 195. You sit there for two hours, and then they're like, okay, next. And then you're like, at the dentist office, and there's thousands of girls, and then you go in there, they look at your five photos that you have, and they're like, thanks, Bye. And this is like, every day, right?
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A
We. When they would say to you, like, why are you so happy? Basically? Lose weight. Like, stop eating. Like, was that something you experience a lot in your career?
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B
Yes. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I come from a time when, you know, the. They would call it heroin chic at the time. You know, like, photos would be different than today. You know, people would be like, hanging like this, or. I don't know.
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A
Right.
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B
You know, it was just a different kind of slouch. You know, you would slouch a lot, and I was just not like that. I danced 15 years. So I'm in there, and I'm like, okay, first position, let's go. It's kind of like that. You Know, so I was really not fitting into what was in at the time.
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A
Yeah. Did you ever start to be like, okay, go home. Maybe I should stop eating?
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B
No.
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A
No, you didn't.
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B
I liked food too much. And plus, I was never. I don't know, I always kind of was going to. To the beat of my own drum and, you know, but in Paris especially, you know, I wanted to be in the fashion shows, and I tried any which way, and I couldn't really get in any which way. The hips were either too wide or the boobs were too big, and. But I was like, I'm going to find something that I can do in this industry. And so I went from Miami, then to New York City, and then, you know, I branched all into the catalog world, but I never really got that art type stuff, you know, the artsy stuff with the cool hand makeup and the cool clothes. I was always more like, you know, the approachable kind of stuff, which made me a lot of money. But I was never super fulfilled in the terms of I also want to, like, do some cool stuff, you know, and people always like, you're never going to be on a cover of a magazine. You wait to this and you wait to that. But then people did book me at some point, and then I got on the COVID of French Vogue and German Vogue and whatever, you know, and then all of a sudden it started, and people were then giving me chances, and, you know, it then changed. All of a sudden I could do both.
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A
How do you think your people in your high school would have described you back then?
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B
Well, I was always very outgoing with my clothes. Like, I would wear things for my mom. I would have a lot of makeup on gigantic jewelry. I would do crazy things with my hair. She would give me perms. My hair was red, then highlighted. My mom was a hairdresser, and so I was the guinea pig a lot of the times. And also, I don't know, huge blazers from my dad, things on the flea market, stuff that I find in the basement. My mom was also sewing, so whenever she was doing something for my Barbie, I was getting the same. Like, I was always very out there with how I looked. So I got a lot of from that. But you are who you are, and that's how I was. And so I didn't really care.
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A
I think that, like, probably so many women are listening with a little bit of envy because of how confident you are and just being like, yeah, I just was myself. And I went for it. Like, do you have any advice of, like, how did you become this confident.
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B
See, I don't know if this is something that you can read in a book or hear in a podcast and then change yourself. I feel like a lot of it is how you were brought up. You know, I've never also had issues with my body, and I think also that's how I was brought up. Like, my parents were running around nude in the house. We would go to FKK beaches, which is, you know, you. We had a camper and, you know, we go to places where everyone is nude and so, you know, you just run around. So I never had that when I have to go change. And even today where people are like, all like, okay, you can go all the way for an hour that way and there's a room there or whatever. I'm just, yeah. Oh, I could just also do it right here and we're quicker. So I've never really, I don't know, cared about it that much either.
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A
You know, I. I think it's like such a healthier approach. I think, like, when you're young, so many, especially little girls, if you're getting your boobs or whatever, it's like you wear a different shirt.
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B
Like, wait for them to come. I couldn't wait for them to come. I think way back when, I was always wishing. I wish I had some and I can't wait for them to come. When they came, I was like, one first came and I was like, wait, what is happening? Why is only one side coming out and the other one isn'? And I didn't know, but surely enough, the other one came too at some point. But it was just like this for a hot minute. It kind of was.
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A
That is amazing. Did you have that too?
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B
Or was that.
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A
I mean, I don't. You know what, Heidi?
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B
Is that normal?
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A
I can't relate to that specifically. I did have them both come at the same time. So I can imagine you were like, what is going on here? But I'm assuming you still went to the beach, you got nude and you didn't give a right.
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B
I didn't.
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A
That. I think that's so healthy, clearly. And I think I wish we could get better at that as hopefully my generation has children of like, making from a younger age, young women feel so comfortable in their bodies and just like, good as they are, as opposed to being like, cover up. Or like, why are you wearing that? Or like, you look slutty wearing that. You're like, I was at the beach nude with my family, and like, no one thought it was strange or weird. Or told me any differently. I think that's amazing.
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B
Yeah. I mean, I'm like. I try to be like that with my kids, obviously, when, you know, no one is there. I'm in my garden also, you know, I'm topless. And, you know, they will come. They're like, you know, my friend is coming over. Mom, put your top on. And I'm like, when have I ever not had a top on? When your friend was coming over. Of course I will. But they always make sure. Mom, just a little warning. What's gonna happen here? And I'm like, don't worry. I also don't want to flash anyone just to flash someone. It's just. I just don't love tan lines.
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A
Heidi, you are iconic. This is amazing.
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B
My husband loves tan lines. I don't.
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A
I think that they can be sexy. But you know what? If you're this confident naked, why do you need a tan? Like, you're just naked all the time in your garden?
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B
Because I think some guys think it's hot to have a tan line. Like, he thinks this is hot to have, like, a white triangle thing here and here, you know?
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A
Huh.
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B
For me, this is very unconvenient. Inconvenient.
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A
So you're a bit of a nudist, and so you are walking around your house naked. Are your kids.
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B
No, that's not really how it is.
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A
Can you. Can I ask you then, like, when do you choose to be fully naked and nude?
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B
No, when it's. I mean, when I'm going to bed with my husband, you know, like, in the garden, I will, like, still have, like, a little knickknock on. But, like, if it's gorgeous outside and it's boiling hot and no one is around, I have my top off in my garden. I have no neighbors. It's like, no one can see anything. So off it goes.
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A
And your kids are like, mom, only when we're home, but not with our friends, for sure. Do you think that your children one day would do that with their kids, or are they, like, not into it?
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B
I don't know, because also, they are not as open as I am, strangely. You would think, because I've kind of been like that their whole life, I would have thought they are very similar. Maybe later in life they will be like that. I don't know. But so far, no, they're not. They go and change somewhere else, and then they come back.
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A
Is your husband into nudity? Like, is he, like, walking around naked as well?
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B
In front of me? 100.
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A
But not the kids?
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B
No, of course not. 100.
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A
No, he's not in the garden with his dick out. Just like, whoa, he's got a new eggplant.
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B
I don't. I don't think the kids could handle that.
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A
Is your favorite thing to do naked gardening?
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B
No, I don't even garden.
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A
Oh, wait, why are you in your garden? Wait, this whole conversation has been about your garden?
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B
No, I lay in the garden. I just tan in the garden. No, no, I don't have a green thumb at all. No, no, no. I'm just laying in it.
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A
You like me whacking Heidi?
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B
No.
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A
Tits out. I'm like, oh, this bush.
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B
No, I should have been more specific. No, it's just like, you know, when you, like, lay there tanning. I love tanning.
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A
And you look amazing. My dermatologist is like, don't look at the sun.
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B
I'm like, I know. They tell me that all the time. I'm like, la, la, la. I didn't hear that. What do you put on? You put not. You don't.
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A
Heidi. I do not go in the sun.
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B
Oh, yeah, I have a friend too. She never goes terrified. I have a friend, she never goes in the sun. And she's always covering her face, but she's always uber pasty white. You know, there's also 50 SPF that doesn't make you completely look like chalk.
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A
Chalk.
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B
You know, there's also other 50 that, you know, you look normal.
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A
Maybe she's just not, like, rubbing it in enough.
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B
Like, and then, you know, full sleeves, everything. And then it's like, I feel like there's also a joy in all. I mean, for me, there's a joy in being in the sun. So I. I'm not like, always hiding behind, like.
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A
No, I'm the creeper behind the bushes with, like, the huge hat.
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B
But you don't look super pale for that, do you? No, no.
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A
This is a spray tail. I'm naturally so, so pale. Like, you would, like, walk past me and not know it's a person. Like, you're like, oh, my God. Like, I could match with the walls. I'm so, so pale.
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B
I match with your couch.
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A
Yeah, you do. I feel like right now, everything you see on social media, it's like how to stop anti aging and, like, how to not look this and how to not get a wrinkle. And it's so overwhelming as women like you go cuckoo. Literally. I feel like I'm getting brainwashed of, like. I'm not going to lie. I think it's been the past Two years. Like, I haven't gone in the sun. I don't go in the sun. Like, I'm avoiding it. I'm like, but you're right, it does make me happy. So what the am I doing?
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B
Well, also, it's like, it's the same with tattoos. Like, my dad was always like, why are you doing this? Like, how are you going to look when you're like, 70s? Who cares how I look when I'm 70?
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A
I want to have fun now. Oh, my God. This is. This is 2024. I like, I'm having, like, a revelation. I'm like, you're so right. Who gives a shit? And also, who cares if you're wrinkly when you're older? You're like, oh, I had the best time of my life tanning. And I'm gonna keep tanning, but I'm gonna.
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B
I waited. So I look good right now. Now when? Who cares?
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A
You're a. If you look good at 70, you're going to be, like, enjoying life, reading a book.
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B
Obviously, I hope I still look fabulous at 70, but if I'm not, it's okay. I had a great time up until that moment.
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A
You know, you had the best time in the garden.
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B
Meanwhile, it's not that far off the 70. I see it already. I see it, I see it. Well, I'm looking at the 60 already, so 70 is like, right behind that.
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A
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B
God, definitely Sports Illustrated and definitely Victoria's Secret at the time. And they kind of those big two lottery wins for me came kind of at the same time and again there too. They never wanted me to go. They were like, yeah, you know, Victoria's Secret at the time, you knew every girl that was in that catalog. And so they were like. And I was like, I want to go. I want them to tell me that I'm not good enough. Not you to tell me that I'm not good enough. So I was just like in the ear, nagging, nagging, nagging. To the point where they were like, oh, let's send her already. And then I went and they both booked me. So. And not only that. First time I was booked on Sports Illustrated that year, I got to be on the COVID So it's like, you cannot always listen to all the people telling you what you are and what you. You're not. You have to always do what you want to be. You know, that is insane.
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A
So what, they were like agents telling you, like, no, we're not. Oh, my God.
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B
Because they ultimately had the power. You know, of course, they don't send you. And yes, they don't even need to push you in a certain way, but just send me. Because then when I go to the door, through the door, it's up to me to either, you know, they like me or they don't like me.
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A
It is so inspirational, though, for you to say that, because I bet people listening, like, we all have that. Whether it's like a teacher telling us, like, you, you shouldn't go into this profession, even if you're obsessed it. Or like, whatever it is, like going for a job or going for a guy or going. Whatever it is, but if you know you want to do it, like, who gives a. Just go. Just do it.
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B
And then Victoria's Secret, 13 years I did that, you know, 13. It's a very long time. And imagine all these trips that I did, all that money that I made, all the experiences that I had. If I would go back to the person that said, like, I don't think that they want you there is like, you know, because everything is also like a stepping stone is a building block to get you further and further. And so, you know, and it's also.
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A
Like, sometimes it's like, you're kind of right. Like, who cares if I get rejected? At least I know that I got rejected. Yeah. So you were the first ever German Victoria Secret Angel. And I want to talk about the Victoria's Secret show because for so many of us, and I don't know if Gen Z understands it as much, but, like, it truly was so iconic. Like, the fashion show, the broadcast, the wings, the angels, the outfit, it's the.
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B
Performers, that was like, a really big time in my life because literally everyone was watching this. Everyone, you know, so you couldn't pass anyone that didn't watch or didn't know about it.
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A
Can you try to explain to us, like, what was it like walking that Runway?
- [23:55]
B
It was amazing. Like, I loved it. You know, some people, you know, and especially looking at the Documentary afterwards, you know, when I saw some of the people. Actually only just one person that I knew on it. It, you know, and I walked with her during those years, and she was like, I felt really uncomfortable doing this. And I'm like, so strange to hear this, you know, like, if you feel uncomfortable, why are you doing it? I loved it always. Or you hear, like, some girls that were saying, like, and then these silly wings. Who wants to wear these silly wings? Well, I always wanted to wear those silly wings. I was like, I was actually upset. If I had small wings, I would actually go to the boss, and I would be like, what have I done to deserve these little wings? I always come on time. I'm the first one. I leave last. I do 14 photos a day. I have the best time, apparently. Tell me that, you know, it's selling what I'm wearing. Why am I getting these little wings? You know, I would actually be upset, but they were literally. Some people I heard afterwards, they didn't love wearing those big wings. I love them.
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A
You have to be honest, though, when you got to put on those big wings, how heavy were they?
- [25:01]
B
Yeah, you have to. You know, they're just like. You want to go immediately back, because I think I had some on were twice as tall as me. So, you know, but you just. You. You rehearse it. You know, it's like a backpack, basically. You know, you have a strap here and a strap here. You put them on, and, you know, then you put your hair over it so people couldn't see the straps, and then off you went. So, you know, once I was like a star, so they gave me, like, this big snowflake, and then I had a chain that I had to pull. Oh, it's so funny when you watch. It looks like a toilet chain, and I go. Go pink.
- [25:33]
A
And then it goes.
- [25:35]
B
It just opened up. But I was just. I was there for it because it was fun.
- [25:40]
A
I'm picturing you backstage. Everyone's looking at, like, the biggest ones, being like, oh, those are so big. And Heidi's like, me, me, put it on my back. Let's go. Like, you just had a lot of fun with it. Are there any, like, backstage moments that you can kind of, like, remember that are so fun that you can share with my listeners who are called the Daddy gang that, like, are just fun BTS moments that you remember?
- [26:03]
B
I mean, it was very fun to be with all the girls, you know, Giselle, Stephanie, Seymour, Tyra. They would always call us tidy and Hyra, because we were just kind of joined by the hip. We did so many trips together all the time. You know, we did a lot for the catalog also, not just, you know, the fashion show. So we knew each other for. For 13 years, you know, going on a trip every other month. So it's just a lot of camaraderie, having fun.
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A
I'm curious though, because I think naturally, especially as women, like we. It is competitive obviously for you to even get that position. Like, once you got the job, was the vibe all fun or like, was there some still competition once you had the job?
- [26:48]
B
Not really. I mean, first, when I. When I first started with Victoria's Secret and we went to, like different trips together, I was kind of like, you know, the soccer players that have to sit on the sideline to wait until someone hurts their foot. So I was kind of like, you know, because it's all about selling and making numbers and making money at the end of the day, you know, so it. They are not going to put on the first few days, 10 outfits on me, and then I have all these outfits in the catalog and no one buys it because it was to believe that also the model had a lot to do with if a garment sells or not. So they just sprinkled me throughout here and there a little bit in order to test the waters to see if I even sell. And then, you know, once the catalog was out and now numbers were coming in, you know, then the next time I was more in front of the camera instead of just sitting on the sideline waiting that I get my turn.
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A
You know, These moments made you so globally famous. Like, did you ever have a crazy interaction with a fan?
- [27:44]
B
I mean, we had like weird stalkers a lot, you know, because we did a lot of in store appearances. So people were like, jerking off.
- [27:52]
A
Is that your hand doing a jerk? Guys, if you're not watching this and you're driving in your car, Heidi just slowly, really little started jerking her hand off.
- [28:02]
B
Yeah. So people had to be removed. Literally, they would be in line to wait and come to us and, you know, have their photo taken and sign whatever they bring for us to sign. And, you know, sometimes they had to shut it down and remove people.
- [28:15]
A
And they'd be jerking off in line. Yes. Oh, my God. People are insane. People do so you're like, you know what? You just jerk your weenie in the corner.
- [28:25]
B
I don't care.
- [28:26]
A
You're not hurting me, okay?
- [28:28]
B
Or anyone else for that matter. Just. Do you. You have fun?
- [28:32]
A
I could see that, though, because I do think I remember what I was gonna say is, like, men would get together to watch the show too. Like, it was this fascination with, like, them, like, fantasizing. Like, these are the most beautiful women in the world. So I could see men going a little crazy, but you're right. If they're just jerking off, let it go. Okay, we're gonna play a little game.
- [28:49]
B
Yeah.
- [28:50]
A
It's gonna be rapid fire. Okay. You're doing great. This is very fun. Are you having fun?
- [28:54]
B
Totally.
- [28:55]
A
Yes. What is the most awkward interaction you've ever had with another celebrity?
- [29:00]
B
Oh, when I met Joaquin Phoenix, and because I'm obsessed with Joaquin, I love my husband, but Joaquin Phoenix, close second. So I met him. I met him, and I couldn't get a word out. And you see me, I'm not very shy or, you know. But there I was kind of like. I don't know. I couldn't find the tongue. It was going everywhere. And he was just standing there, and he was like.
- [29:25]
A
Anyway.
- [29:25]
B
Right? Yes. Never saw him again after that. But it was. Yeah.
- [29:29]
A
Is it. It was an experience where you're like.
- [29:31]
B
I. Yeah, that was awkward because I just couldn't speak. Yeah. I was a little, like, dumbfounded. My.
- [29:36]
A
Too stunned to speak. The woman was too stunned to speak. Okay. I love that Joaquin is cool. He's cool. What is the wildest place you've ever had sex? Ooh.
- [29:46]
B
In the airplane. Is that wild?
- [29:48]
A
Private.
- [29:49]
B
In the water. Private. Yes, private. Oh, private.
- [29:52]
A
In the water. Oh. Where Water.
- [29:55]
B
Like, at night and, you know, in a beautiful place. What's your wildest place?
- [30:02]
A
I always prefer a bed. You know, like, I'm always like. I would like to just be, like, horizontal on a bed, but I guess I would say water. I. I've done. But, like, then I don't feel great down there afterwards. It doesn't work well with me.
- [30:14]
B
I'm like, is it ocean water? Is it pool water?
- [30:17]
A
Pool water?
- [30:17]
B
Yeah. Maybe that's why. Because they put a lot of stuff in the pool.
- [30:20]
A
Oh. Oh, nasty.
- [30:21]
B
Yeah.
- [30:21]
A
Never again.
- [30:22]
B
And then it gets shoved in there, so it's probably not good. Salt water is better. Ocean water.
- [30:28]
A
What is your worst habit?
- [30:30]
B
I don't know. I wish my daughter was here. She could name a list immediately.
- [30:34]
A
Wait, should we call Lenny and see if she'll answer?
- [30:36]
B
Yeah, I'm going to call her.
- [30:37]
A
Your mom was like, my daughter would roast me. Give a quick roast.
- [30:42]
B
She found my sex closet.
- [30:44]
A
You found your mom's sex closet?
- [30:46]
B
I did when I was younger, and I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I was Going through it with my friends. And I was like, mom, what is this? It was like, the microphone. I was like, mom, what is this? And I, like, really had no idea what it was. Then my mom got so mad at me after. She was like, you can't go in my stuff.
- [31:02]
A
But that is so classic to be like, it's a microphone.
- [31:07]
B
I was, like, showing it off to my friends. I was like, look how cool this is. Like, my mom has a whole cupboard. She has a whole drawer. And I snuck them into my mom's room and opened the door, and we all were taking videos and we were.
- [31:18]
A
Like, oh, my God.
- [31:19]
B
Like, yeah, I was talking about me tanning topless in the garden.
- [31:23]
A
Oh, my God.
- [31:24]
B
I have another story. No, but. But she thought that I was gardening.
- [31:27]
A
No, Mom, Mom, I have to say this. She has a story. She's a story. Birthday parties.
- [31:31]
B
I would have birthday parties at the house where I'd have friends over, like, my boyfriend over, and she tans topless by the pool. And I remember having, like, my girlfriends over, and I'd be so embarrassed and, like, scared because usually in like, like my friends, families, like, you know, I never see their moms, like, tanning naked at the pool. But I thought it was normal. And my friends would always kind of be like, like, kind of standoffish. But it was just so normal in our family.
- [31:59]
A
All of a sudden, all the boys at school are like, we want to go to your mom's house today.
- [32:10]
B
I know.
- [32:20]
A
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B
I loved being really old.
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A
Okay.
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B
Just because people are always riding around on this, you know, being old, and aren't you too old to do this? Aren't you too old to do that? And I turned 40, and then I was like, everyone is just banging on about that. I should. Should, you know, hang up everything that I'm doing because I'm so old. And then I'm like, old, old, old. I show them old is what I thought. And that's how I thought of making myself, like, 90 or 100 years old. So I love that because, like, every part of my body that you could see had to be aged, you know, that is iconic. I love being the worm, too. Two years ago, as a little worm, little rain worm.
- [35:28]
A
How did you come up with that?
- [35:29]
B
That? Just because it's the most random thing, and I literally think about it every day of the year. I think about other things that I could do. Like, I see things, and then I'm like, could it be that? What about that? Could it be that? So I just. I always try and think outside the box, right? I love how a lot of people love to be sexy on Halloween. I think it's because I get to be sexy in my job a lot of the times. I want to be more creative.
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A
Got it.
- [35:55]
B
And not necessarily that. It's just about like, oh, I want to like make it scary and ugly, but I just want to make it.
- [36:02]
A
Unusual and different and different.
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B
I want people to be like, oh my God, this is so stupid or this is silly or what the heck is it? I just want like a great reaction for people from people for sure.
- [36:14]
A
Like, I don't think anyone would think, like, okay, this year let's all take a guess what she's going to be. And then they're like a worm. Like, it's just you're. No one can ever guess what you're going to be because you're right, it is so out there. What is the most expensive cost of costume?
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B
Oh, they're all very expensive. Very.
- [36:29]
A
How much have you spent?
- [36:30]
B
I literally have never made a dollar on Halloween because I don't do this for making money. Right. I do it because I love creating the art of it.
- [36:40]
A
And you don't get like claustrophobic or anything when they're.
- [36:42]
B
Yes, very. You do very.
- [36:44]
A
Yeah. I feel like I would be like, I can't breathe. Get me out of bed.
- [36:48]
B
A lot of the times I don't drink or eat it. Like hours before, like when I was a worm, I. What am I going to do? Do? So there was nothing going in, nothing going in, nothing going out. Kind of like when you take a dog on an airplane. Same thing. That's how I was in my, that's how I was in my worm outfit.
- [37:04]
A
And what if you had to pee? You just pee yourself?
- [37:06]
B
Well, yes, I would have.
- [37:08]
A
But you didn't.
- [37:09]
B
And I would have left a little trail. No one didn't. No one looks down in a party. But I didn't.
- [37:16]
A
What is the craziest thing that someone has ever done at one of your parties?
- [37:19]
B
Parties come as a mattress. Wait, like a full on mattress? I was like, wow, why did I think of this? It was like a real mattress that the hollowed out the middle stuck their body in it so they were just like this full king size mattress and they couldn't really fit through any which like, you know, I was like, was.
- [37:39]
A
It someone famous or. Nor like, no, you didn't know them.
- [37:42]
B
No, I didn't know.
- [37:43]
A
Did you go up to them?
- [37:44]
B
Yes. I was like, I'm jealous of what you have on right now. And this is me telling you this is embarrassing. I love your mattress.
- [37:55]
A
I'm obsessed.
- [37:56]
B
Yeah. No, sometimes people really come up with like amazing things and I'm like. And I thought I was thinking outside the box. I mean, I've walked on stills. I learned how to walk on stills and do, like, crazy things. Last year, I did something with Cirque du Soleil. I had to fly all the way to Canada, meet everyone, and then rehearse this stuff that they did. People are flying through the air. I had to climb through this guy, hop on this guy. And we were doing all this.
- [38:19]
A
All this stuff.
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B
So. And then here this guy was with a mattress, and I was like, this is it.
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A
No, no, no.
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B
The fact that you.
- [38:29]
A
The fact that you also like, that probably took, like, no time. He just slid right in.
- [38:33]
B
No, but he, you know, there's, like, metal pieces and then there's also, you know, foam stuff. So he had to make space to where he then had to go.
- [38:42]
A
Yeah, where he could go. Wow. I wonder if he laid down at any point during the night and, like, like, let people relax on him. Right?
- [38:50]
B
Yeah. I wonder where he is right now. The mattress from the Halloween party.
- [38:54]
A
Reach out to us. We love you. Shout out to mattress.
- [38:59]
B
Never saw him ever again.
- [39:00]
A
That is so iconic. Okay, you did mention that your costumes aren't sexy because you're, like, sexy during the year. You're like, let's get creative.
- [39:09]
B
I mean, I was Jessica Rabbit once. That was, I think, is the ultimate sex bomb ever, ever, ever. When I was getting ready, everyone thought that I was going to be Kim. K started with putting the prosthetics of the boobs, and I had, like, you know, they made me a gorgeous booty and everything. And I usually, like, post throughout me getting ready so people can start guessing. And they were like, yes, she's definitely Kim.
- [39:32]
A
And then you're like, no, Kim's boobs aren't this big. Ladies and gentlemen, I was Jessica Rabbit. If you had to pick one of your costumes to role play in the bedroom, which costume would it be?
- [39:44]
B
Ooh, Jessica Rabbit.
- [39:48]
A
Do you think your husband would like that one?
- [39:49]
B
Yes.
- [39:50]
A
Huh? I think that's the best one. Cuz, like, maybe not the old person, but maybe you're like, baby, this is what we're in for.
- [39:58]
B
Halfway there. Again, I'm 16 years older than him.
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A
So can we talk about how your legs at one point were insured for $10 million?
- [40:05]
B
But I didn't do that.
- [40:06]
A
Okay, let's. Can you explain it to people that have no idea what I'm talking about?
- [40:09]
B
So I had. I had this client who was an epilator. Client. Client.
- [40:14]
A
What is that?
- [40:14]
B
It's when it removes your hair. Oh, an epilator. So instead of shaving it.
- [40:19]
A
Yes. Like laser.
- [40:20]
B
Yeah.
- [40:20]
A
Okay.
- [40:21]
B
No, it's not laser. It's like something you can actually do. It's like this little machine, and it just takes them out. And they had my legs. In short, at the time, for, like, three years, I worked for the company, and then I had to go to London, and this person came and looked at my legs. And unfortunately, on one leg, I had a scar. So that. That was the bad leg. So that was not a good. That was not as insured for that much. And the other one was. And it was. I don't remember how much it was, but it didn't come for me. They wanted that. And I was like, all right. And those legs, let's go.
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A
And so if your leg. Because I'm pretty sure I read it was like $2 million. Like, what is ensuring it do? Like, God forbid something happened to it.
- [41:02]
B
Like, I really don't know. And the other day on America's Got Talent Fantasy Week, I fell. And literally, I have no. The biggest scar on my leg. Immediately, everyone came running. They were like, no, these and short legs. And I'm like, don't worry. I don't care at all. But I'm like, this is so, like, old news. This was ages ago when. When they did that, you know? But I don't know. Maybe at that time, who knows? I have no idea.
- [41:25]
A
People are crazy. What is something that immediately turns you on?
- [41:31]
B
Oh, I just need to look at my husband. Yes.
- [41:34]
A
What is the most cringe thing a guy has ever done to get your attention?
- [41:39]
B
They put their wiener in the popcorn box.
- [41:41]
A
Sorry, hold on, hold on, hold on. Please explain this.
- [41:51]
B
You know when they hold a popcorn box and you just keep eating, and all of a sudden I was like, yes. There was more in the popcorn box as it was sitting on his lap.
- [42:04]
A
Shut the up.
- [42:06]
B
No. He poked, like, a little hole. You know, those things are like. What are those? Cardboard.
- [42:11]
A
Yeah, cardboard. Little popcorn box.
- [42:12]
B
Paper things. Yes. Dug a hole in the bottom, shoved his little wiener sausage through it. And as I'm munching down, you're like, yes.
- [42:22]
A
Whoa.
- [42:23]
B
Yeah.
- [42:23]
A
It was a thick piece of popcorn.
- [42:25]
B
Damn.
- [42:26]
A
What did that. What was your reaction? What did you do, too?
- [42:29]
B
I thought it was funny.
- [42:30]
A
It is kind of funny.
- [42:31]
B
Yeah.
- [42:32]
A
But I'm not, like, it now, like, turned on.
- [42:33]
B
No, no, no.
- [42:35]
A
You're like.
- [42:36]
B
But for him. Because also it's, like, salty, you know? Right.
- [42:40]
A
But you like popcorn, so maybe it's like a good little lube.
- [42:44]
B
There was no lubage on it. There was no lubage on it, but it was it, you know? It made me laugh like no one had ever done that to me before and never anyone after again.
- [42:53]
A
Oh, so unique. Cheek. That's not even cringe. That's beautiful. Genius. It's funny. It's funny. It's comedy. It's comedy.
- [43:01]
B
I mean, you have to be very creative. Creative and also feel confident. Was it hard off?
- [43:07]
A
Was it hard or soft?
- [43:08]
B
I mean, a little floppy. Let's call it Chubby. My daughter is gonna kill me. I love you.
- [43:20]
A
No, no, I think that. I think she's actually. Her friends are gonna to be like, this is the best episode of Caller Daddy ever. Your mom's a legend. Let's call it Chubby.
- [43:30]
B
Well, chubby is a stage before for sure.
- [43:33]
A
Yeah, yeah. Did you end up having sex with him that day?
- [43:37]
B
No.
- [43:37]
A
No. You let it just kind of flac it out?
- [43:39]
B
Yeah.
- [43:40]
A
Like, it just kind of deflated.
- [43:41]
B
Yeah.
- [43:41]
A
You kept beating your.
- [43:43]
B
No, I think I was done by that point. I mean, it's also a while ago. I don't remember.
- [43:48]
A
Okay, that is one of the best answers I think I've ever heard on Caller Daddy. Okay, what. How you describe your type.
- [43:57]
B
I mean, look at my husband. Look at. No, I'm saying look at my past.
- [44:02]
A
You don't have a type.
- [44:03]
B
I don't have a type. I mean, I've had someone bald, you know, really old, long hair, skinny, bigger. I mean, you know. Yeah, yeah.
- [44:13]
A
So it's more about personality, would you say? Yeah. What do you look for in personality?
- [44:19]
B
I mean, their personalities also have been very, very different. Different. You know, but at the end of the day, you want some who you feel comfortable with, snuggle with. You know, even though I'm quite strong, I still want to be the woman in the relationship and be, you know, not the one putting the arm around. I want to be the one that snug it in the arm, you know, like, so, you know, someone who makes you feel great and sees you also and continues to see you. Because I feel like in the beginning they try everything to get you, and they're like the eyes don't move anywhere else but on you. And then, you know, it's like, why are those eyes on it? Where? You know. So I feel like when you have someone who really continues to see you and, you know, do everything for you the same way, how we do things for them. So where it's like you love them and they love you back in the same way, that's the most important thing.
- [45:11]
A
That is so cute. Okay. Would you say you're a sexual Person.
- [45:15]
B
Yes.
- [45:16]
A
On a scale of prude to total freak, where do you fall, Heidi?
- [45:22]
B
Nine.
- [45:25]
A
Oh, you're a freak. Love.
- [45:28]
B
Yeah, it would be a nine. You gave me a range till 10. Right. So, yeah, I didn't go for the full 10. I would go for the nine.
- [45:33]
A
Love. We love that. Uncallar daddy. You know, I don't know if your daughter told you, like, the origins of the show, but, like, very sexual. Very, like, fun sexual, though. Like, I've taught a lot of women how to give good blow jobs. Like, we're. We're open here.
- [45:46]
B
Yeah.
- [45:47]
A
Oh, I love your reaction.
- [45:48]
B
I wish I was there for that, for that lesson.
- [45:52]
A
Gluck, Gluck 9000. I'll send you the episode. Do you like vibrators?
- [45:58]
B
I do like them. I was thinking when I was doing the worm, that that should be a vibrator.
- [46:04]
A
Oh, my God. Wait, hold on.
- [46:06]
B
Maybe not with my face on it.
- [46:07]
A
But you were thinking of being a vibrator for.
- [46:10]
B
No. After I did the worm?
- [46:12]
A
Yes.
- [46:13]
B
You know, two years ago, I was thinking, you know, this could be like a really cute little vibrator.
- [46:17]
A
Oh, like a worm vibrator.
- [46:19]
B
I mean, not that small.
- [46:20]
A
Oh, right. Huge, big. This. How big are you?
- [46:22]
B
Maybe double sided. Because a worm is double sided, Right? Kind of could have a small end and a bigger head or vice versa.
- [46:29]
A
Oh, my God. You should invent the worm vibrator.
- [46:32]
B
Right?
- [46:33]
A
And do you think people would buy it if it actually looked like a worm, though? Maybe not.
- [46:37]
B
Would you if it was cute? Like a cute little rain worm? Yes.
- [46:44]
A
Yes. No.
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B
No.
- [46:47]
A
Yes. Yes. And then maybe if someone walks in on you using it, you can be like, oh, my God, like, there's a worm in my bed. Like, what is happening? Okay, great. Okay. What is your favorite vibrator? Like, what's your go to?
- [47:05]
B
I mean, obviously the wand.
- [47:08]
A
The wand.
- [47:09]
B
Just because it's very thorough in its.
- [47:15]
A
That is literally.
- [47:16]
B
No, it's on.
- [47:18]
A
You know, it's on. That is such a. That the way you just did that.
- [47:21]
B
Because. Because some things you just don't even know it's on.
- [47:24]
A
Yeah, you're like, hello, are you down there, like, trying to, like, click it up, get some more energy going, you know? Are you okay to use the wand during sex or do you not use the wandering sex?
- [47:33]
B
Not. Plus if you go for many different hours, you can have many different things happening.
- [47:39]
A
Do you typically have sex for hours?
- [47:41]
B
Yes.
- [47:42]
A
Oh, really? You have that much stamina?
- [47:45]
B
Yes.
- [47:46]
A
Oh, my God.
- [47:47]
B
I think it's easier for the woman than it is for the men. So does the men have that much stamina is the thing? Because the men usually are the ones that can't.
- [47:55]
A
Right.
- [47:55]
B
Go for that long.
- [47:56]
A
They're like. And it's like, it's been five minutes.
- [47:59]
B
Or, you know, it's a lot of blood that has to be pumped in a certain place. And so I feel like, you know, so some don't. Can't do it, right.
- [48:07]
A
You're right. We don't get enough credit. Like, once we're. Once we have an orgasm, I'm like, okay, I could go again. But men, it's like, hold on, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait.
- [48:15]
B
Gotta, you know, so the key is for them to not have that first reaction so that it can stay longer. But a lot of guys cannot do that.
- [48:24]
A
But your husband can.
- [48:26]
B
My husband can.
- [48:29]
A
Can you describe your sex life in three words?
- [48:32]
B
Words endless, Hot.
- [48:36]
A
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B
2. Two middle fingers up on my end. I just always think, why do people care? I never talk about anyone.
- [51:53]
A
Right.
- [51:54]
B
Live and let live. Like, what is it to you who I'm with? Right. I understand. You know, also because, you know, he has a band and he's known in a lot of places of the world and people also find him very hot. He didn't pick you. Get over it. So it's like, what is it to you? Like, I picked him, he picked me. And it's like, if maybe you meet and you have a chance, maybe this is. Things will change. But do you know what I mean? I feel always like, why are people getting involved? Like, I would never comment on someone else, on what they do, who they're doing and how they, they look or how they don't look, who cares?
- [52:35]
A
It's so true. It's like if, if you're happy, like, that's great. And then the people commenting, it's like, why do you even have enough time to comment on my relationship where people.
- [52:42]
B
Are like, I'm 16 years older. Thanks for pointing it out. I also know he knows I wasn't lying to him. You know, he knew how old I was from the very beginning. I know I will be aging faster. I mean, not faster, but yes, I'm still. The 16 year gap will always be there. That's just how it is. But that's his choice and my choice. So I never understand why people care.
- [53:06]
A
This is the energy we need. I appreciate that energy because I think sometimes, especially with social media where you can like read so many comments, I think a lot of people get just like pressured into maybe like either they making statements or feeling like, oh my God, do I need to explain myself? Or whatever. And you're like, I don't give a.
- [53:24]
B
That's why I also turn it off. Yeah, I turned my Instagram handles off a few years ago. Comments. Not the, the handle together, but like the comments. Because I don't want to be influenced when people put in my head. I feel like you have to. It's harder to walk to the beat of your own drum if you constantly hear more noise interfering. I feel like it's good that you just do what you would naturally do.
- [53:49]
A
Yeah. You know, I did that same thing. I think it was now 2ish years ago.
- [53:54]
B
I turned it off as well.
- [53:55]
A
Yeah, my Instagram comments are off. And like, I've never been happier. I'm like, I have no idea what anyone thinks about this photo and I.
- [54:01]
B
Don'T give a fuck. I mean one in one in one sense, you know, I love that there are so many fans that are following and I feel bad for the people who are actually genuine and nice and who, you know, I would love to see what they have to say. But there's so many people that are just barfing from morning to night and I'm like, I'm just not down for it. I'm just like, no.
- [54:21]
A
That is literally how we have to describe the trolls on the Internet. They're just barfing from morning to night.
- [54:27]
B
You know, it's true. I don't want to do that.
- [54:29]
A
It's exhausting. And I also think like, I found like, I do think sometimes even like the good comments, I love them so much and people still can DM me. But like, I don't think I also need an over like thousands of people telling me how pretty I look or great. Like, I don't. That's.
- [54:44]
B
No, but sometimes, you know, but sometimes they can be like, oh my God, this thing that you did there. Where can I get that?
- [54:49]
A
Yeah, totally.
- [54:50]
B
Then I could be like easily. It's right There, you know, so in that sense, no, I also don't need to know like how you think I look good in this outfit. I feel like I look good in this outfit. That's why I put it on, you know. But I mean, my husband would tell me if he hates if I have something on. That's what I care about, you know.
- [55:09]
A
But that's it. Yeah, great answer. You've had relationships in the past, obviously not just your husband. What is a hard lesson that you've learned about, about love that you would want to like teach your kids one day?
- [55:24]
B
It doesn't matter how hard you love someone, it doesn't make them love you the same or back as hard as you love them, you know, or sometimes also and even, you know, with a partner or anyone for that matter, you know, sometimes you think a certain way, but their head is differently in there. They don't think the same way how you do do so.
- [55:48]
A
Yeah, I think that just crushed all of us. There's so many people watching being like, oh my God, you're so.
- [55:52]
B
No, because I've had relationships in the part in the past where I love them so much and I do everything and you know, I'm like a love bug. Like I fall in love and then I'm just like, I dive in head first and it's just like I'm all the way in there, you know. And then, you know, you just realize sometimes that you just don't get it back the same way. And even though you go, go full on, if they're just not the same way, it just, it doesn't change.
- [56:20]
A
It's so well said. And daddy gang, I hate to say it but like someone clip this and just relisten to this every time you're with like a boy and you're like, he's, it's going to work out, he's going to like me one day. You know, you, we always know like when you're putting so much more in and you're trying and you're trying. Like if you like them more, more like that says something like, find someone that likes you equally.
- [56:42]
B
Like, I had a relationship cheated on me for four years straight from the very beginning to the very end, all the time, all the time. Until I found out.
- [56:50]
A
How did you find out?
- [56:52]
B
I had the opportunity to go into the emails, which I'd never done, of course, and all of a sudden it was kind of. I found so many things where I was just like, what?
- [57:05]
A
Wow.
- [57:06]
B
But then I always knew deep down inside I always knew Right. The days when you were like, what happened? Why didn't you pick up? You were in this place, you know, and it's like, oh yeah, my phone. Something happened to my phone. And then it's like, oh yeah, I didn't have a charger or all of a sudden it's like radio silence for like. And you. And you're at this pit always in my stomach where I was like, something is up, you know. But then you get real shot short. Are you crazy? I love you so much. You everything to me, you know, blah blah, blah, blah, blah. So you're like, okay, he's telling me all this stuff. Okay, I feel better for a hot minute. Then something happens again and you're like, I still feel this. It's this bad feeling that I'm burping up again. And I was always right. I always knew that.
- [57:52]
A
Also must have been so hard to see that it was from the very beginning. Yes. Cuz then you.
- [57:57]
B
It was a life from the very beginning. The beginning being for four years.
- [58:00]
A
And that's so hard because you're like, oh my God. Then you kind of start to replay like any happy, beautiful moments you had.
- [58:07]
B
Yeah.
- [58:07]
A
And knowing like, oh my God, like you are a pathological liar at this point. Like you're just being able to be in bed with me, look at me, have moments of telling me you love me. And then like four years of that. I mean, I think you're right though, and that's what's hard. And everyone though does have to come to it on their own. I feel like it's hard when friends try to get involved, solved and convince their friends I know they're cheating like you. Everyone really does know. You have the gut feeling like that pit in your stomach I've had before. And there is nothing worse because you feel so alone. And the only person that can actually make you feel better in that moment is the person that's hurting you.
- [58:45]
B
Yeah.
- [58:45]
A
Like, and. But what you don't realize is like, if you just get yourself out of it.
- [58:48]
B
Yeah.
- [58:48]
A
You don't deserve to have a pin in your stomach.
- [58:50]
B
And then at that moment, you really think there is no other parents are with great sons. You think, this is it, this is it. How is this possible? And then it's like, you know, I know you always say like, oh, other parents have also nice sons. You know, but in that moment you just think, no men, there is no one else for me, this was it, this is the one. You know? And then also it's hard when you meet Someone new again. Because then you kind of feel like, is this the same pit again? Is this happening again? It's. It takes a hot minute to also trust that person again. And then, you know, I've been told, like, you can't put your old on me, you know?
- [59:26]
A
So true.
- [59:27]
B
It's so hard to give people a chance again. But it is hard, especially when this happened to you for numerous years, you know, to trust that again.
- [59:35]
A
It's very difficult. I'm curious, like, getting cheated on is one thing. Like, have you ever fallen out of love with someone?
- [59:43]
B
Yes.
- [59:44]
A
Oh my gosh. Can you explain, like, how you knew.
- [59:47]
B
It was time to leave? Yeah, no, it just. I told this person too. I said, I don't love you anymore. Like, literally I just said it.
- [59:56]
A
That's so hard because it's like. And did anything, like, awful happen or. It was just like, you just realized.
- [60:01]
B
After a time I just realized it and I voiced it and I was like, this is just not forever, you.
- [60:07]
A
Know, I feel like.
- [60:09]
B
And it was very sad, but I. I was like, I'm not going to string this along or play something that it's not. So.
- [60:17]
A
So I think that's the hardest part is cuz, like, people will like, write into me and be like, alex, like, I think I still love my boyfriend, but like, I don't know. And I'm like, well, that's your first answer. If you don't know, then you don't.
- [60:27]
B
You know, with my husband, I know.
- [60:29]
A
Exactly. You should know.
- [60:31]
B
There's no question about anything. So if you have a question, that's already not a good start, it's not a good start.
- [60:36]
A
And I think a lot of people struggle. If there's been years of it where you're like, I don't want to hurt the person, but you're actually just. You are hurting the person and making.
- [60:44]
B
It long, longer, right? Yeah.
- [60:45]
A
Like, get out if you can and let yourselves both restart. Rather than being like, I feel so bad that I'm gonna tell the person I don't love them anymore. Like, I think they'd want to know.
- [60:53]
B
Yes, yes, for sure. I wish I would have known with that person that dicked me around for four years.
- [61:00]
A
Me too. For you, Heidi, you have chosen yourself and walked away from relationships, from jobs, once they stopped serving you. What advice can you give to my listeners about, like, how to know in life when it's time to move on again?
- [61:17]
B
The question that arises, the same with, you know, with a boyfriend that you said, you know, maybe you don't Love that person. So already, if you're like, for me, it was with Victoria's Secret, you know, after certain years, you know, I was kind of like, I think it's time for me to hang up my wings. You know what I mean? I feel like I'm older now. Now I have three children. There's, like, young, beautiful, new girls coming up. So I like. Before I get the boot, I think I'm just going to leave on this note right here, you know, instead of.
- [61:51]
A
Do you think that was, like, one of the most difficult things you ever had to walk away from?
- [61:55]
B
Well, you close one door, you open another, you know, I feel like I'm also someone who always has another goal, another thing that I'm interested in doing. So I had a great run is what I thought, you know, and I met so many amazing people. And, you know, there's other opportunities. And, you know, then I had many different TV shows that I was doing and still doing. So I was kind of like, okay, right.
- [62:18]
A
You know, let's talk about your new song.
- [62:21]
B
Yes.
- [62:21]
A
Woo. Sunglasses at Night. And I'm. It's cool that you did collaborate with Tiesto. I'm curious, like, how did you get first into music? Are you. Is this something you're, like, very, very passionate about?
- [62:32]
B
Well, very first I did a Christmas song, and I think it was 2006 or 2008. It was quite funny. I have four fans. Those are my four kids. They all know it, and they love it. I mean, I think they love it. Do you love it, Laney? I hope so. So every time when it was something, like, fun or something that was, for me, a challenge, something that I normally don't do, I was like, yes, let's try it. Because I love, you know, how other people love going on a roller coaster. That's what I don't want to do. Or they shoot themselves to the freaking moon space for 30 minutes and then come back down. Seems like everyone is doing these. These days. I don't want to go, but, like, when someone gives me an opportunity and sticks a mic in my face, I want to do it.
- [63:13]
A
Oh, my God, I love it.
- [63:14]
B
Anyway, I'm in the shower and then I think about this Sunglasses at Night song and I'm like, you know how it starts? And I'm like, it's just such a cool vibe.
- [63:26]
A
Yeah.
- [63:27]
B
And then I was thinking, who should I do this with? Or who could I ask who would be so crazy? And then I literally asked Ties. His name is Ties.
- [63:34]
A
Yeah.
- [63:35]
B
Right. And then I'm. And Then I'm like, I have this great idea for a new track that I would love to do with you. He's like, you sing? And I'm like, not really, but. And then he's like, okay, what's your idea? I'm like, I want to do the Corey Hart song Sunglasses at Night. And he went, great idea. I think in that moment he thought, why did I think of that myself? I kind of saw the hamster on the wheel running kind of like, okay, he was already. I feel like producing it in his head right then and there. So then it just happened like that. You know, I recorded my lines and, you know, sent it over to him and then he produced the song. And here it is. Like, it just. Sometimes I pinch myself how I hook these things up somehow. And I always think, if you don't tell people, how are they going to know these crazy ideas that are roaming around in your head? So again, I could have gotten a no, and then I would have probably asked again, but. But he said yes. So that I immediately, you know, went it. And it just went super fast. And then there it is.
- [64:39]
A
It's so fun because it really is. Like the theme of today is like, go for what you want and who gives a. Because even if you get a no, at least, you know, like, it goes all the way back to you with Victoria Secret and Sports Illustrated. And then even like the singing, you're like, I don't know, I'm not a singer, but like, yeah, I can be one. Let's sing and like, just go for it.
- [65:02]
B
And then either people love that vibe that we be put together on there, or they don't.
- [65:07]
A
Yes.
- [65:07]
B
And again, people have a choice at the end of the day, cus the customer or, you know, the listeners are right, the ones that then are the judge. And they choose if they want it or they don't want it.
- [65:19]
A
Let me just be clear. The Daddy Gang, my audience is going to absolutely support you on this, Heidi, because we love you. After this interview, I'm like, you're my favorite person. This is. This is like the best vibe. Such good energy. And we're gonna be playing sunglasses at night. Daddy Gang's like, our girl is on this track. No, it's so fun. It really is so fun.
- [65:42]
B
And okay, everyone get your sunglasses out. I tried to be sexy on this one.
- [65:46]
A
Wait, do it again. Do it again. Okay.
- [65:47]
B
Did you. Did you actually hear?
- [65:48]
A
We did.
- [65:48]
B
We did. We did.
- [65:49]
A
We were. We were playing it downstairs. It's.
- [65:52]
B
It's fine.
- [65:52]
A
Do it again.
- [65:53]
B
No, but no, because I wanted to. Because I have this annoying voice. I also. This. I brought it down a notch, you know, And I was like, okay, everyone, get your sunglasses out.
- [66:03]
A
It's so good. I was like, I love the little tit shimmy.
- [66:08]
B
I got that from Sofia Vergara. She always does that.
- [66:10]
A
It's good. It's really good. You're also judging this season of America's Got Talent fantasy league. I have got to ask. Last question. Have you cracked Simon Cowell? Is he a softy or is he really, really?
- [66:25]
B
He's soft.
- [66:26]
A
Yes.
- [66:26]
B
Yeah, he's soft. I wish. I wish I could give him a makeover. I asked him since the first day I met him. I was like, please, leave it up to me. I come from this. I come from this. This is what I do. I love fashion. Please, let's go shopping together.
- [66:41]
A
What does he say?
- [66:42]
B
He doesn't want to. He has his style. And now I'm over it. Now I'm like, okay, you do you. I do me. I get it. But sometimes I'm like, I wish he would do mean instead of you. But he doesn't. So I love him. I love him. He's a great boss. He's a lot of fun.
- [66:57]
A
Yes.
- [66:57]
B
The other day when I told you I fell and blood was gushing, and, you know, everyone comes running to me.
- [67:03]
A
How are you doing?
- [67:03]
B
How are you doing? I'm like, I didn't fall in my head. I'm fine. And he's like, make more of it. Make more of it. He's just so much fun.
- [67:10]
A
He's like, play it up.
- [67:11]
B
Let's go. He was like, make more of it. This is great for the television.
- [67:16]
A
My God. In pain.
- [67:18]
B
I was like, you're right, I should. No.
- [67:21]
A
But I didn't. That is hilarious. Yeah, he could use a makeover. But you know what? You look great, and that's all you can control.
- [67:28]
B
No, but I love him. And he. He is so right with so many different, you know, things that he says to the people that are on the stage. Like sometimes. Sometime someone will sing a song, and he will be like, stop the music. I don't even know if that air is half of the time. But he does it all the time. He stops the music. And I feel terrible for them because they're like, like, now what? But I always have to say, the act gets better after that. He's like, I don't love the song. You start off in the wrong key. You're too nervous. You need water. What do you need? Not that song. Do you have anything else? And then usually when they sing another song, it's like another person's. Yeah.
- [68:05]
A
He's so talented.
- [68:06]
B
He really is. And he has amazing ideas. And with Fantasy League, that was his idea too.
- [68:10]
A
Damn.
- [68:11]
B
Because I think maybe he thought he and us, we were not getting enough air time, so he made our job a little bit bigger so we could be on a little longer.
- [68:19]
A
You've been such a good judge. You will be such a good mentor. The song is so fun. You are so fun. And I'm just, like, excited that I got to meet you because you same. You're even, like, you're even more charming in person, honestly. Oh, I think when I watch you on tv, I always smile when you're talking. I'm just like, oh, there is she. She is. And I don't even know you. But now, like, being with you in person, I'm like, you're so great. And it's been so fun to, like, record with you.
- [68:47]
B
You should come and visit us sometimes when we. When we shoot.
- [68:49]
A
Okay.
- [68:50]
B
Agt. It's a lot of fun, especially when we do auditions. So that's what we're going to start with after Fantasy League is all aired.
- [68:58]
A
I would love that.
- [68:58]
B
Then we start with auditions in. The auditions are the most fun. Like, people do things where you're like, what on earth is this? This, like, people will, like, fart and blow out candles with their fart fart air. Like, they do things.
- [69:11]
A
Sign me up.
- [69:12]
B
No, no, they do. Literally, they do things where you're like, I've never seen this before. Like, literally, I've never seen this before. So it's a lot of fun.
- [69:20]
A
I.
- [69:21]
B
You can come anytime.
- [69:22]
A
I would love to come, truly. That sounds so much fun, especially because you'll just be there and you make everything fun. Clearly. This has been so fun. I can't thank you enough for coming on. I already know the Daddy Gang loves you.
- [69:35]
B
I mean, I'll be back next week.
- [69:36]
A
Oh, yeah, you'll be next week. You're the new. This is actually our formal announcement that Heidi Klum is Caller Daddy's new co host. So here every week, the two of us tune in.
- [69:46]
B
I'll be back for more. I'll be back for more.
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Thank you so much for coming on.
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Thank you.
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Oh, my God.
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Thank you.
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Good news.
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Right from your living room. Hmm. Who says great first impressions can't happen.
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