Jackie Schimmel: Confident Girls > Mean Girls (FBF)

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Jackie Schimmel: Confident Girls > Mean Girls (FBF)"

Episode Information

• Title: Jackie Schimmel: Confident Girls > Mean Girls (FBF)
• Host/Author: Alex Cooper
• Release Date: November 29, 2024

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Introduction

In this episode of Call Her Daddy, host Alex Cooper welcomes comedian and fellow podcaster Jackie Schimmel for a candid and unfiltered conversation. Joined by Richard, presumably a mutual acquaintance or guest, the trio delves into topics ranging from friendships and body image to handling grief and navigating toxic relationships. The discussion is marked by humor, raw honesty, and insightful perspectives on personal growth and resilience.

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Friendship and Body Image

Establishing Friendship Dynamics

• [08:40] Jackie Schimmel: "How the fuck are we friends? How do we become friends?"

  Jackie initiates the conversation by questioning the foundation of her friendship with Richard, highlighting their seemingly contrasting personalities and backgrounds.

• [09:15] Richard: Discusses how their friendship blossomed during the pandemic through social media interactions, podcast swaps, and mutual support despite initial misunderstandings.

Body Image and Self-Perception

• [10:41] Richard: "I have a very shallow vagina. So for a long time, I have a very shallow vagina. And I'm a woman of extreme efficiency."

  Richard humorously addresses body image issues, challenging societal norms and expectations with candid self-awareness.

• [11:28] Jackie Schimmel: "Do you buy the ultras?"

  Jackie engages in a lighthearted discussion about personal preferences in daily products, using it as a segue into deeper conversations about self-acceptance and confidence.

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Handling Mean Girls and Toxic Relationships

Defining Mean Girls

• [34:50] Richard: "I think a mean girl is probably someone that's dealing with insecurities and therefore is deeply threatened and put off by people who feel."

  Richard provides a nuanced definition of "mean girls," attributing their behavior to underlying insecurities and a lack of self-worth.

• [35:32] Jackie Schimmel: "I completely agree with. I think every single or dude."

  Jackie concurs, expanding the discussion to include toxic behaviors in all genders and emphasizing the importance of personal boundaries.

Strategies for Dealing with Toxic Individuals

• [37:40] Richard: "I'd be like, what is your intent here? Are you trying to, like, you just have to, like, get a high beam flashlight and just roll and be like, like, what is your agenda here?"

  Richard advocates for directness and confrontation as effective methods for addressing and diffusing toxic behavior.

• [38:24] Jackie Schimmel: "Because then they're like, well, my point. No, no, no. What's your actual point? Where are we going here?"

  Jackie emphasizes the importance of questioning the intentions behind toxic interactions to maintain one's emotional well-being.

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Grief and Emotional Boundaries

Personal Experiences with Grief

• [46:14] Richard: "I lost my mom pretty suddenly. I, like, I've been through, like, a lot of, like, seemingly traumatic events..."

  Richard opens up about his experiences with sudden loss and the impact it has had on his emotional resilience and coping mechanisms.

• [48:20] Jackie Schimmel: "I had a great question about this, which I think is very important, is there are people that on this unself aware spectrum, have no idea how to handle if a friend is going through something and has lost someone in their life."

  Jackie highlights the challenges of supporting others through grief, especially when personal coping styles differ.

Setting Emotional Boundaries

• [53:42] Richard: "Please don't say everything happens for a reason or you will get slapped. Everything happens for a reason. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Have fun with your mom."

  Richard advises against clichéd phrases that often fail to provide genuine support during times of grief.

• [57:51] Jackie Schimmel: "It's so short. You are leaving today with them."

  Jackie underscores the importance of respecting individual grief processes and avoiding imposed narratives or expectations.

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Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Insights

Navigating Personal Mishaps

• [62:22] Jackie Schimmel: "Give it."

  Jackie interrupts Richard's detailed recounting of losing an expensive dress, adding humor to lighten the mood.

• [65:27] Jackie Schimmel: "Can I get some vodka?"

  The trio continues to intertwine personal stories with humor, making the conversation relatable and entertaining.

Humor as a Coping Mechanism

• [39:26] Richard: "Because I have herpes. But, like, I'll just, like, kill him tonight."

  Richard uses dark humor to address sensitive topics, illustrating how humor can serve as a tool for processing difficult emotions.

• [58:39] Richard: "Please don't. I had. It was so funny."

  Jackie and Richard showcase their ability to find humor in challenging situations, fostering a sense of camaraderie and resilience.

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Insights and Conclusions

Embracing Self-Acceptance Both Jackie and Richard emphasize the importance of self-acceptance and authenticity. They advocate for being true to oneself, even in the face of societal pressures and toxic relationships.

Resilience Through Humor and Directness The conversation highlights how humor and direct communication can be effective strategies for overcoming personal challenges, handling grief, and dealing with negative influences.

Respecting Individual Grieving Processes Jackie and Richard agree on the necessity of respecting how individuals process grief, discouraging one-size-fits-all approaches and promoting personalized coping mechanisms.

Final Thoughts The episode concludes with a blend of humor and heartfelt advice, encouraging listeners to prioritize their mental well-being, set clear emotional boundaries, and navigate life's challenges with confidence and authenticity.

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Notable Quotes:

• [08:40] Jackie Schimmel: "How the fuck are we friends? How do we become friends?"
• [34:50] Richard: "I think a mean girl is probably someone that's dealing with insecurities..."
• [37:40] Richard: "Are you trying to... what is your agenda here?"
• [46:14] Richard: "I lost my mom pretty suddenly..."
• [62:22] Jackie Schimmel: "Give it."
• [39:26] Richard: "Because I have herpes. But, like, I'll just, like, kill him tonight."

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This episode of Call Her Daddy offers a blend of humor, personal anecdotes, and profound insights into navigating friendships, body image, grief, and toxic relationships. Jackie Schimmel and Richard provide listeners with relatable experiences and practical advice, all while maintaining an engaging and entertaining dialogue.

Transcript

[Alex Cooper]

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[Jackie Schimmel]

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[Jackie Schimmel]

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[Jackie Schimmel]

What is up, Daddy Gang?

[Alex Cooper]

It is your founding father, Al Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Jackie Schimmel, welcome to Call Her Daddy.

[Richard]

Oh, are we on?

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're on.

[Richard]

Oh, fuck yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I figured we have Henry, Leo, can you maybe come in?

[Richard]

Richard.

[Alex Cooper]

Richard.

[Richard]

Oh, my God. Richard, come here. Treats. Wait.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Look at his body.

[Richard]

I. It baffles me. He's so low to the ground, it's crazy. Look at his body type.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, how do you explain his body type?

[Richard]

I get you a camera.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Come here.

[Richard]

Leo, get your ass over here. Come here. Come here, baby. Bitch. I would say that he is reverse pear shaped. His father is pear shaped and he's reverse pear shaped.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you talking about his father? Isn't your husband?

[Richard]

Yes, Andrew.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Andrew is pear shaped.

[Richard]

He's 100% pear shaped. He should know.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I dated a guy that was pear shaped once. It's not bad.

[Richard]

I don't love the chafing element. And speaking of chafing, I am wearing burlap pants. It's 100 degrees. I feel like I have a white woman's, like, cocktail reception in my vagina.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They look great. They look great.

[Richard]

Itchy in the wrong places.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So you're a fellow podcaster.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I was thinking about this, someone I asked people to write in, like, what do you guys want us to talk about?

[Richard]

Oh, God.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And people were like, how are you guys friends? And I'm like, how do we.

[Richard]

That's rude.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Richard]

No, no. How are you guys?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, how did you guys become friends? Like, no, they're not. Like, how the fuck are the two of you?

[Richard]

I'm like, it kind of makes a lot of sense.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You guys don't get it. Like, we're kind of similar at all. No. And I was like, how did we become friends?

[Richard]

Okay. I totally know how this happened.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Tell us. Also, I love that I'm drinking iced coffee. I never do this before, but I figured I'm so comfortable with you that if I need to shit my pants during the interview, I get a full.

[Richard]

Gallon of Matcha, and I probably will shit. But you won't know because I'm wearing burlap pants.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What are burlap pants?

[Richard]

You know, like, when you go to, like, a sad, live, laugh love wedding, and they have, like, those burlap tablecloths at the cocktail hour?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Yeah. You're wearing them. Oh.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, I get that. That looks like beach house vibes.

[Richard]

Actually, they're Gucci. Fuck off.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I actually love when you're wearing designer, but there you have to clarify their designer, because they don't. They don't appear designer.

[Richard]

No, they really don't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They do. They do.

[Richard]

They're, like, itchy and, like, they.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You need to pull this down. I need to see your face. You look great today. Yeah, I do. Don't you podcast for a living?

[Richard]

Yeah, but I don't do video.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh.

[Richard]

That is by clear and concise design, honey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I will say that's one of my least favorite things about doing video is I've had to start putting, like, makeup.

[Richard]

On, like, a little tinted moist.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even for a solo, those are. I'm definitely. I look worse.

[Richard]

What's going on with the flowers in here? So, like, what's happening?

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Richard]

What is this?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Let me just be so clear.

[Richard]

Why are they so erect? Speaking of Midwest cocktail hour, let me be so clear. Marrying your cousin. What is going on?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. You know, this is a good conversation to start off with.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

My set, I started with, like, a vision.

[Richard]

What was that vision? Can we just get some, like, hot Pink orchids.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Richard]

Aren't you rich?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Here's the issue. We start. I started with the vision of, like, big, cozy, comfy chairs.

[Richard]

What is that? What is that turquoise vase?

[Jackie Schimmel]

This is golden daddy terse type balls.

[Richard]

It's like an urn. It's like a sad, low bud Shiva in here. What is going on?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, let me explain to you.

[Richard]

Oh, sorry.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm so happy someone called out because every time someone comes in here, they're like, it's so cute in here. I'm like, it looks like a grandmother's room.

[Richard]

No, I like this.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You like this?

[Richard]

I don't understand what's happening with your floral concept, Richard. It's okay. It's anxiety. It's.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Wait, Richard is having a panic attack, and Henry's like, get the away from me. Are you okay? Are you about to. Is he okay? We just need a break. Do you want to hold him?

[Richard]

No, he's fine.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's okay.

[Richard]

Richard, don't embarrass.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I love how Henry has, like, zero give a. Okay, we're swerving.

[Richard]

Am I allowed to put my feet on here, please?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's fine.

[Richard]

Thank God.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're gonna get rid of these chairs anyways. Okay, so when I designed this room, I really had a vision where I could. I had a vision where the chairs. I think we need to take your dog to the vet.

[Richard]

No, he does this all the time. It literally is like he gets overwhelmed. We went to the Bahamas a couple years ago, and he was in such emotional distress that we left him that he had, like, a whole anxiety condition. We almost put him on Prozac.

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[Jackie Schimmel]

How the fuck are we friends? How do we become friends?

[Richard]

Okay, you know what's so funny? I don't even know if you remember this. We met during the pandemic in person and we had DMed a couple times. Now, I. I didn't know who you were, but I knew that you and your ex partner had this show. I had heard of Caller Daddy and then you had DM'd me a couple times, I think. Or maybe. Maybe your ex partner had DMed me a couple times and I ignored them because I'm a lovely person. And then somehow during the pandemic, I think we started talking on Instagram.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes.

[Richard]

And following each other. And then like, so annoying. Met up, became like, Internet friend, and then did a podcast swap.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I will never forget how bad that podcast was.

[Richard]

Because you didn't know what a swap was.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I had no idea. I'll never do again. It was so at. Who's calling me? This is so unprofessional.

[Richard]

I mean, you would never do this with Hailey Bieber.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I would have my phone in the different room. Meanwhile, I'm like, hold on, let me check.

[Richard]

Fresh florals. The urns would be put away. This is some bullshit.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You know what? No, you're right. That's how we became friends. First, we started as podcast friends, and then after we podcasted, I remember we were like, huh?

[Richard]

We like each other.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then we had the connection where, you know, my boyfriend through childhood, and it's like, A whole thing. So it ended up working out and then, like, family, friends and stuff.

[Richard]

100%. But, you know, as a podcaster, you meet a lot of fucking people. I don't fuck with that many people. I really don't.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you keep coming back around to me.

[Richard]

I. Yeah, I like you. I don't know what's wrong with me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I appreciate you coming on because I'm desperate for a guest right now. Around the holidays, we can get anyone.

[Richard]

Even look me in the eye and say, desperate for a guest, or I will shank you in the backyard. Desperate for a guest. Alex, you are like, I don't have guests.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, you know what? That's. I wanted to say to anyone. That is new. You have balls. Oh, no. You've got a big vagina.

[Richard]

Massive.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Massive. And don't you always talk about how you have to put, like, multiple tampons?

[Richard]

But you know what? Here's the thing. And if there's one thing that I want to say on Caller Daddy today is that my vagina is not wide. It is shallow. So for a long. I have a very shallow vagina. And I'm a woman of extreme efficiency. So, like, I don't understand light girlies like, you go to fucking CVS and you're getting tampon lights. We already have to deal with the pink tax Now I'm having my Gloria Steinem moment. Get ready for it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, we love it.

[Richard]

We already have to pay the pink tax. All boxes of tampons are the same price. Okay, so why would you go light when you can go ultra? Just from a fiscal standpoint.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Do you buy the ultras?

[Richard]

Fuck yeah, I will. I have fit two ultras inside of me side by side, like fighter pilot jets, like fucking Top Gun.

[Jackie Schimmel]

One time I bought. I thought I was buying super, and I realized I bought super plus, and I was like, oh, this is like, in the big leagues. I didn't even know there was ultra.

[Richard]

I can raw dog ultras. And you think about it, okay? You're either, like, changing lights every 20 minutes or you ultra that shit. You're ready to rumble. You could fly to fucking Abu Dhabi.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Have you ever bled through an Ultra?

[Richard]

Fuck yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Okay.

[Richard]

Oh, yeah, that's good. Came out of me. Slid down the mountain.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Isn't that the worst? When you have a tampon and you can feel it's. It's coming out.

[Richard]

There is. Let me tell you something. I was coming back from Paris, okay, a few months ago, and I had an ultra in because I'm, you know, a feminist And I was going through customs and I thought I was good to go because I did like a mid flight switcheroo. And thank God I was wearing a jogger pant with an elastic ankle because something happened during customs where I was like, she is. She has left my body and it fell out and it was just pooling at my ankle. Sorry, I know her throat's closing out. This is really disgusting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Are you saying that your ultra tampon popped out of your vagina and slow.

[Richard]

And steady like a ski toboggan. And I was like, I was trying to like, like tilt my pelvic floor and like kegel it back in, but it had it. The ultra had left we.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And so it's sitting at the bottom of essentially the elastic pocket of your jogger. And what did you do? Cuz customs, there ain't no movement. You're like.

[Richard]

I said, thank God I had an elastic ankle and I just moved low and slow. Like I was just like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Were you with your husband?

[Richard]

No, I was alone. Which is kind of unfortunate because I would have loved to like have that experience.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I actually agree with you. When something like funny or embarrassing or just like out of body is happening when you're alone, it can be even worse slash funnier because you're like, you're going through the internal self dialogue of like, what do I do?

[Richard]

What do I do?

[Alex Cooper]

It would be 10 times better.

[Richard]

Pops out, where are we going? What am I going to do?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Where are we going from here?

[Richard]

Do I just like turn a blind eye and like keep on moving with my fudgeing passport or do I pick it up? Like, I don't know. And I almost wanted to like tell people in the line because I thought it was so hilarious.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I have never, I will say to anyone listening, if you're having like a bad day, just think that you've never had an ultra slip out of your.

[Richard]

And it's like a twin mattress.

[Alex Cooper]

Come.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Out of your vagina and slip down your leg. When did you take it out?

[Richard]

Oh, I went. I like. Well, I didn't run because I couldn't run, but I did a very slow stroll to the bathroom and yeah, I.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Want you to like, take me through iterations of yourself through life. So like, start at like young Jackie.

[Richard]

No, no, Like a Barbara Walter.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, no, no, no. But like, do you know what I'm saying? Like bring me back to young Jackie and walk us through so people can really get to know like, who you are and the evolution of you.

[Richard]

I am embarrassed to say that my evolution has been pretty non evolutionized. Like I have been like kind of the same my whole life. It was just about what I was able to get away with, you know, because like when you do have adhesive headgear gingivitis and you're like, like things aren't landing the same way when you're in seventh grade as when you're 32. You know what I mean? Like it's. It's taken years for me to like fully be like all caps myself in public. But as a kid I was super obnoxious. I was annoying as fuck. I hated socializing. But like I did the thing because I didn't want to be a loser. But I was always like. I loved like doing like characters and I was always like doing bits and I was like, just annoying as fuck. Like my parents were like literally go play on the freeway. Like that was like a. Like I wasn't allowed to be in the house. Which is interesting because now I have this like weird thing where I can't be home from 10 to 4. Like I have to be out of the house because I have like this weird like Nell energy about it and I just don't like festering at home. It makes me feel like a loser.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Where do you go?

[Richard]

Anywhere. And I'll sit in parking lots. I don't care. I do not like being home.

[Alex Cooper]

Wait, what?

[Richard]

It's the weirdest thing we.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, so can you.

[Richard]

So as a kid my parents were like, get the fuck out of the house.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you just go, oh, I would.

[Richard]

I mean self amusement is truly like the rhythm of my dance floor. Like I love being alone. I love being untethered. I like doing weird shit. I don't care. I never have cared if other people get it or think it's funny. It like you just said, it makes it funnier when nobody else understands what's going on.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So true. Someone DM'd me. I posted something the other day where I was like, it's not that revolutionary. Like I'm just alone a lot. Someone messaged me like, I love how like you and Jackie always make me feel better because you guys are just always alone.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And like doing shit alone. You guys feel so comfortable alone. And I'm like, why would I want to be with anyone else? You have a husband. I have a partner. I'm like, why would I ever want to be with anyone else?

[Richard]

I feel like the most myself when and like comfortable. And yes, I do have like slight OCD tendencies as diagnosed by a licensed professional. But I feel like, so alive and present. When I'm by myself, I do. I don't feel like I gotta start tap dancing, you know? Yes, yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I'm happier.

[Richard]

Me too. Okay, bye. Bye.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Bye, guys. Gotta go. No, I appreciate that. Can you explain what gingivitis is and also.

[Richard]

Sure.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Did you have to publicly wear an adhesive headgear?

[Richard]

No. Only. No, no, no, I didn't. But, like, sleepovers weren't a thing. I did have, like, those rubber bands that, like. Really?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Mm.

[Richard]

And unfortunately, I've always loved a mixed metal, so I would go like gold, silver, like, brackets, like, on my braces.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, so you have.

[Richard]

Gingivitis is a condition, a dental medical condition in which you have hypersensitive, inflamed gums. So I had an allergy to the cement on the braces, you know, so my gums. Like, I had no teeth. It was just gum and metal. And then I would have to get my braces off every month, which is why I had them for almost five years, because I needed to let the gums breathe.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Richard]

And they would just bleed constantly. I just always. I mean, bleeding out of my vagina, Bleeding out of my gums. It's a. It's a whole.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Why do I feel like that made you. This is so insulting. Why do I feel like that made you a mouth breather?

[Richard]

Am I a mouth breathe? I probably. No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I feel like back in the day you would be a mouth breather because, like.

[Richard]

Oh, yeah, there were so many fluids, and I always had a roll on lip gloss to boot, so it was so shiny and so, like, I was. It was a lot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, so you were a mouth breather. You had gingivitis. You added headgear.

[Richard]

But I was, like, in on it. And I was also hugged a lot as a kid, so I was like, I would come home, like, if I ever had any type of insecurity or like that, you know, like, in middle school, I wasn't super cute, but I had. I really, like, leaned in.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You got it. You got the joke.

[Richard]

I was like, whatever. I'm like, who wants to be hot in middle school? How embarrassing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That's something where. I remember where people were trying to expose me for my younger photos. And at first, like, because I had, like, not gone through therapy about it, I was like. I was so ugly. Like, I was so awkward, and I was like. I felt like I was doing wacky to, like, try to get people to not know what I looked like. And then I was like, how incredible to know that I Didn't fucking peak in middle school, you dumb bitches. Like, how great. How great. Okay.

[Richard]

Not that big of a deal.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And it's like, why, when you see people's middle school photos, most of the people. This is so fucked up. Sorry. But most of the people that were.

[Richard]

Don't apologize to me, Cooper.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Most of the people that were, like, the hot chicks in middle school are now addicted to, like, meth. Yes. Okay. It didn't go well.

[Richard]

Exactly.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I think. Listen, if you're listening. And you were a beauty queen since day one.

[Richard]

Well, fuck you.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, Yeah. I was gonna say we, you know, we. Yeah, fuck you.

[Richard]

And also, like, I. Even now, I don't really think. I don't put, like, a lot of weight on how I look. Like, that's not where I get self esteem at all.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Talk about that.

[Richard]

I don't know. I mean, I think that, like, I've. I'm lucky that I had a good childhood. And I've always felt pretty secure. Ish. And I just have never, like, thought that that was a sustainable way to get self esteem. Like. Yeah, I just don't think that's, like, the thing that people should aspire to get attention for.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree.

[Richard]

I think, granted, I'm gorgeous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're like, don't get it wrong. Like, I just want you to know.

[Richard]

If you're not watching the video, I also happen to be super cute.

[Jackie Schimmel]

If you're listening to this, quickly, just tune in. You will swerve off the road. If you see this beauty sitting across.

[Richard]

From you, will get a boner that will go through your windshield. However, no, I. I have met, like, some of the most beautiful people in the world that I think are fucking busted because they're so boring. And especially nowadays in 2022, I think we really need to prioritize, like, some fucking personality and opinions because I'm bored with everybody on the fucking Internet. It's called shelf life. Have fun.

[Jackie Schimmel]

When I was doing research for this, which was minimal, I wrote down something that I thought was interesting. And I was like, I. I thought I knew you, okay? And apparently I don't know you at all, okay? And I was like, I think Jackie Schimmel is subtly a version of Anna Delby.

[Richard]

Okay?

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then it really clicked. I was like, this bitch bought her fucking art. They're in on this together. You faked a college diploma from UCLA to get a job? Yeah. Can you please confirm and clarify? And first of all, I just want to be clear. I wasn't, like, going on to Jackie's Shit. Trying to find out if she's been arrested. It's like on your website, you're like, yeah, I faked my college diploma. Blah, blah. Yeah. So first of all, did you ever attend ucla?

[Richard]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Richard]

But I lived in off campus housing. Like, I somehow was able. It was a different time. I was able to get to the ucla, like, roommate housing site.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What?

[Richard]

Yeah. And I lived with all UCLA students, like, in an off campus, like, housing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Richard]

Establishment.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I need you. I think that when I was reading about that, I was like, okay, I have cheated on tests.

[Richard]

Duh.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Of course. And I've gone to extreme lengths of, like, cheating. And I got caught a couple times, but I feel like it takes a certain level of, like, sick, like, no fear of consequences to fake and to give someone a resume that you're applying for a job and be like, I went to ucla. Hero. How did you come up with this? How did you make it happen? And are you good at Photoshop?

[Richard]

You know what? I. Photoshop didn't exist back then, but I did have the paint app. Humble brag.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So you created a fake diploma from ucla?

[Richard]

I had gone to community college for literally one day. Couldn't have been like, less interested. I was like, this is terrible. I graduated high school with a 1.8 GPA.

[Alex Cooper]

What?

[Richard]

Wow. It's like my favorite thing to drop in.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Wait, really? Literally just no interest in school?

[Richard]

None. None.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No drive?

[Richard]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No concern that, like, you wouldn't get a job?

[Richard]

No. I wasn't like, thinking that far ahead. I kind of just figured, like, I'll just like get in there and like, you know, whatever.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Confidence, delusion, the fact that you were like, one point, whatever the fuck gpa. How do you even also even get that?

[Richard]

It's actually quite an accomplishment. You basically have to fail everything. It's like straight Ds and did. It's like Ds and Cs. Yeah. Through for four years.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So then you go to community colleges for one day?

[Richard]

For one day, could not be bothered. I was like, this is not my fucking journey. So I actually lied to my parents for like a year and said that I was going to college and I doctored. That's how I got my paint app, Photoshop skills. I was faking report cards and my parents were like, very hands off. They trusted me way too much. Like, they like, weren't asking questions. They weren't like, how was like, they just didn't ask what the were you.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Doing during this time?

[Richard]

You know, there was this amazing cheese shop downtown. I was Cooking. I was eating. I was drinking boxed wine. I was, like, going on walks. I was. I don't know what the.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You didn't even have a job?

[Richard]

No. And then eventually, I. While I was lying to my parents, I got an internship. So then I. And then lied to them and said I was graduating college, but I was only a sophomore, and then they offered me a job, and that just kind of started. Kickstarted my fraudulent life.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then you literally just started giving people saying you went to ucla. How? I'm interested to know, because I think when you start a lie, it can tumble, tumble, tumble.

[Henry]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

How far did you. Were you buying, like, Bruins. UCLA gear. Like, whoa. Go Bruins. Like what? Like, whoa.

[Richard]

Well, I only was lying to, like, human resources or, like, people, like, super high up that I wasn't with every day. So, like, every. By the way, I have no fucking chill. I am, like, the most. I have borderline Tourette's where I have to tell everyone everything all the time. So I think that's. It was a real learning curve. But everyone that I was working with, like, kind of interesting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And then HR didn't.

[Richard]

No. And it didn't really. It didn't really cause a problem until I started working at, like, a really, you know, esteemed financial institution where they did this little thing called Hot tip employment verification. So part of that is they call all the admissions offices, and then they, like, confirm your degree.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And what happened?

[Richard]

Well, the good news is that I was in charge of employment verification, so I just kept taking mine, putting it at the bottom of the list.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Stop. And then did you ever get caught?

[Richard]

No.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm gonna honestly say I respect it because I think it takes a level of. I don't know the word. Like, it's really a ballsy move that I don't think a lot of people could pull off.

[Richard]

Like, what would be the worst that could happen? Oh, no. I'd get fired from my receptionist gig at the financial institution where it was miserable all day.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, no, you're right. I guess it's actually really innovative and crafty. Where do you get your confidence from?

[Richard]

I. I think that I'm myself all the time, and I like myself, and I understand that not everyone is gonna fuck with me, and that's totally cool.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I appreciate that because I feel like it takes. I feel like no one says, like, I like myself, because now I'd be like, you're a narcissist and you're an egomaniac. It's like, no, I just like myself. I've Got to live with myself here. Totally.

[Richard]

I don't think I'm, like, the prettiest person in the entire world. I don't think I'm necessarily that smart. I don't think I'm the funniest person. I don't, like. I don't think any of those things about myself. I'm just, like, happy I get to, like, do the thing as me, because what else am I gonna be miserable? I wake up and be like, God damn it, Jackie, you need veneers. Like, whatever. Who cares? Like, that's such a waste of time.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Let's talk about the real reason you're here today.

[Richard]

Okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You are here sweating. I'm actually sweating too. You're here to defend a woman's right to wear an ankle boot.

[Richard]

Oh, yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

For anyone that has no idea what I'm fucking talking about. Morgan Stewart came on the podcast. That fucking bitch came on my podcast and had the audacity to fuck up every single person that works at Call Her Daddy. Ruined. I've been on Team Zooms of people being like, alex, what am I supposed to do? Do I have to throw up my ankle boots? Let me just clarify to anyone that has no idea what we're talking about. Morgan Stewart came on Call Her Daddy and basically took a hard stance.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Against ankle boots.

[Richard]

I have a lot of thoughts about this.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Yeah.

[Richard]

I have known Morgan and love her dearly for years and years. A very good friend. And I know that when Morgan assassinated the ankle boot in early November of 2022, I. I can close my eyes and envision what she was talking about. I think she's thinking of, like, a round toe Louboutin chunky heel, like club rat, one oak shoe.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, okay.

[Richard]

I will say, as a woman with very long femurs, I'm talking about myself. And gorgeous, sculpted chins. Talking about myself. That I look very good in an ankle boot. Dare I say, stunning leg pornography. Only fans.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So this is controversial because she said. Not even irate. Irina. How do you say her name? Irina? Shank.

[Richard]

Shank.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Shank could look good. So you're essentially saying you are more gorgeous on the lower half than Irena Shank.

[Richard]

I do suffer with dermatitis on my legs, so I'm working on it. But I fuck with an ankle boot. Now, Morgan has since specified. Now I call her. I want to call her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I just sent Morgan my location. Come through, bitch. Okay, let's call her.

[Richard]

That is drama.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's very drama. I'm like, where are you? Roll up.

[Richard]

She should Be nervous.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What else is she doing? She just got some kids. Whatever.

[Richard]

Yeah, big whoop. Wow.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, hi, Morgan.

[Richard]

Hey, Morgy.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Hi, honey.

[E]

I'm putting you on. Am I not doing this right? Okay, here I am.

[Henry]

I'm so stressed out.

[E]

I got it.

[Richard]

Tell her she's being recorded earlier.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Being recorded.

[E]

I'm being recorded. Okay. I like it. I like it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I'm sitting across from Jackie Schimmel.

[E]

Oh, we love her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We've been talking shit on you for 20 minutes.

[Richard]

Yep.

[E]

Have you?

[Richard]

No.

[E]

You guys like me too much to do that?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, we need you to settle. Ankle gate. Ankle boot gate. I just want to let you know, the amount of women that have now thrown out all of their ankle boots because of you, it's been honestly an uproar that's happened. And I want to give you the chance to clarify. What did you mean? What?

[Richard]

What did you mean, Morgan?

[E]

This is literally. Oprah said she wasn't eating meat anymore. This is what I've done to the ankle boot industry. Like, I did not realize this is.

[Richard]

And your friends closet are flooded.

[E]

It's very clear. First of all, to use our dear friend Jackie as an example from dinner, a flat combat boot is not the ankle boot. I was referring to. I was referring to the black suede heeled ankle boot with the inner zipper where the zipper's inside the bo. And the only real issue I have is when that is being used as a heel and it is an exposed ankle boot. Like an ankle boot with a sheer tight and a mini skirt. Not. Doesn't work.

[Richard]

Doesn't work.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, Okay. I actually want to go ahead and say I agree with you.

[Richard]

I agree with that. Thank you.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. Okay. Because I think this is the thing. How many people wear an ankle boot and then there's like your pant goes over it and you're wearing a fucking boot with a jean. Great, great.

[Richard]

You don't know.

[E]

Fine, no problem with that.

[Richard]

But when you're wearing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes, yes. But when you're wearing a dress or a skirt or even shorter jeans, a little 2012. Yeah, it's like Aldo, Steve Madden. We're giving.

[Richard]

We're giving Inland Empire, Nordstrom never elongates.

[E]

And also, just to be very clear, so everybody at home understands, if you're also wearing a skinny black pant or jean and it fits into the ankle boot, you still don't tuck the pant into the boot.

[Richard]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[E]

Unless it's a baggy ankle boot and it's like an Isabel Morant style. That works.

[Richard]

I was just Gonna use that as a counter argument.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, oh, oh.

[Richard]

I literally. Morgan Stewart. I was just gonna say, as someone with gorgeous shins, you know how Isabel Marant does that little dip in the front. Yeah, that little dip Dip me looking good in the dip. Dip.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. So Jackie's been bragging about her shins. Oh, we just hung up. Okay. Apparently, I don't know if I hung up on her or phone died. Goodbye, Morgan. You've already had your time on caller Daddy.

[Richard]

This is Jack about you, Morgan. This is about me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, So I actually think that clarifies a lot. And I do feel better about it. I'm really not just now not gonna answer if she calls. Yeah, I think I feel better. I do. You still stand by, though. Like, are you going to go to an event with a dress and an ankle boot?

[Richard]

I would never wear a heeled ankle boot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, me neither.

[Richard]

I would wear, like, a western style ankle boot with, like, a little bit of a heel. Yeah, but not like a stiletto ankle.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree.

[Richard]

Now, I could never. I mean, even if I was, I would lie about it. I don't want Morgan to harass and bully me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I. It's really interesting to see how powerful that conversation was. And I'm like, jackie, are you going to say anything today that is going to traumatize my audience?

[Richard]

Probably.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Let me get myself some water.

[Richard]

I know I've been screaming about ankle boots.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Hold on.

[Richard]

Oh, I'll put this in the cute cup. Oh, wow, paper straws. I'll give you a fucking hot take.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Say it.

[Richard]

Fuck the turtles.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I like plastic straws. You know what? Although I actually agree with you in terms of.

[Richard]

By the way, I love that. That's like, the most controversial thing you could ever say. I was at, like, a fucking dinner and I said something like. It was like an influencer dinner. We don't. We'll never talk about it again. I'm sorry.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You went to one of those?

[Richard]

I only went to one. And then I got, like, basically kicked out. And I said something about, like, bring back the plastic straws. And it was like I had just said, like, I had done, like, a Hail Hitler or something. Like, it was like. It was like the whole, like. There was like a rogue wave of shame and disappointment. And these girls were like, that's just, like, not cool. And I'm like, I can't make a joke about plastic straws. I cut them up when I'm done to save little baby Franklin. You know Franklin?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Of course I know Franklin. I think you're right. There's bigger issues of how to solve the issues with the environment. Like stop going on your private planes.

[Richard]

Oh, yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

How about that?

[Richard]

Let's like, tackle bigger issues.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Richard]

You think you're superior because you suck out of a paper limp dick straw that's compostable.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, me too.

[Richard]

I love it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Love it. Shout out.

[Richard]

Single. Use plastics, guys.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, so let's talk about our dinner the other night. We'll start with this. We went to Tower Bar, which is like a great place to go, Right?

[Richard]

Great vibe. Dark.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We had a great conversation about mean girls and like adults mean girls. And we're talking about. We're not talking about the movie mean girls. I'm talking about like real life women that are bitches. Yes. I want to know, how do you define a mean girl?

[Richard]

I think a mean girl is probably someone that's dealing with insecurities and therefore is deeply threatened and put off by people who feel. Who feel like they. It highlights what they dislike about themselves. I think a mean girl is someone who projects a very different version of themselves to the public. And then, you know, behind closed doors is just like spewing mad shit that says nothing about the other person. It's all about them or someone who. Someone who can't be friends with someone who's doing better than them is a fucking mean girl.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I completely agree with. I think every single or dude.

[Richard]

Dudes are the same way. It's. It takes like, if you can't be happy for someone that's doing better than you or. Or has something that you want and there's not a. There should never be a sting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Richard]

I don't feel like there should be a lingering sting.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I. I agree with you and I. Something I was thinking about was like, I agree with you on the mean girl thing. I think there's like such a deep rooted insecurity and it almost feels like there's this underlying anger in them.

[Richard]

Everybody deals with feeling like they're not enough or they're not funny, smart, successful, whatever it is. Everybody has those feelings. You need to buck up, grab your vagina and differentiate that how you're feeling has no merit to what other people are doing. You need to be like this. You need to like, what are you doing? I just find that to be. It's so embarrassing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Listen, I think there is a different level of like, everyone talk shit.

[Richard]

It's a bonding technique. A. It's therapeutic.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah.

[Richard]

And it's really not that big of a deal.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You can tell when someone's talking shit and it's like a genuine, like, oh, you're, like, really upset about this.

[Richard]

If you're, like, bothered, yes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, it's a joke.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, we're chilling, like, too close to it.

[Richard]

If you're so bothered, how would you.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Handle a mean girl who you can tell is, like, genuinely trying to, like, make you feel like shit?

[Richard]

I think, like, in any situation, you have to get ahead of it and, like, directness is always the best way. It throws people off, especially you get one of those kinds of girls that's like, really trying to, like, whip in. Nay nay, and, like, fuck you up. You're like, you want to dance? Let's start fencing. Like the parent trap. Like, do you want to play? Let's play. I'll stab you right in the eyeball. We're not doing this dance. So I like to nip shit in the bud and let them know what time it is. Like, I'm. I see we're watching a different movie. You're watching Mean Girls and I'm watching Poltergeist. You know what I mean? Like, I do not like that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So what the would you say to someone?

[Richard]

I'd be like, what is your intent here? Are you trying to, like, you just have to, like, get a high beam flashlight and just roll and be like, like, what is your agenda here?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Just cutting right? Because I think people could also argue, like, just killing people with kindness. If I don't journey, that's personally not mine. Also, I will say I think sometimes with my energy, I'm like, I just, like, don't have the energy for you. Like, be a bitch. And I'm literally like, this is so embarrassing for you.

[Richard]

Then you can just sit like a little Shiva and you clip it, right? You. We're not friends.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I've had people write in of, like, if someone's being a bitch to me, you can really just say, hey, Caroline. Like, Caroline, I don't know anyone.

[Richard]

Caroline, what's the agenda of this conversation?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, what's your agenda? Or what my dad always told me say is, what's your point?

[Richard]

Yeah, what's your point?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Because then they're like, well, my point. No, no, no. What's your actual point? Where are we going here?

[Richard]

And there's something that's so off putting about being, like, very brazen in a conversation when you can feel that someone's trying to, like, mince you, put you into a corner to say something so you look stupid or embarrass you just. You just lean the fuck in, go harder, and humor diffuses. Everything and is like the ultimate. Like, it's just. It's the card. It's the card that always fucking wins.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're right.

[Alex Cooper]

You're right.

[Richard]

So you can diffuse anything and say exactly what you need to and make it, like, light and fluffy and not drama, because I don't play that game either. There's nothing more cringe and embarrassing. You don't be the girl crying at a dinner because, like, Katie from Milwaukee hurts your feelings because she doesn't like your ankle boots. Making it about me.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, literally, I get what you're saying.

[Richard]

Just like, take control of the narrative, make it funny and be unbothered.

[Jackie Schimmel]

How do we make it funny?

[Richard]

How do you make it funny? I think you get ahead of it. I think, like, self deprecation always really works.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yep.

[Richard]

But like, if someone said, say a.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Girl'S in a room with everyone and, like, a guy didn't end up texting the girl back and her friends. A fucking mean girl. Asshole. And she's like, yeah, well, Johnny didn't text Sarah back.

[Richard]

Oh, yeah. Be like, yeah, it's probably because I have herpes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, oh, it's probably because I have, like, small tits and no ass. And you, like, it's something like making fun of yourself that you're.

[Richard]

Because I have herpes. But, like, I'll just, like, kill him tonight. And you, Kirsten, you just, like, get ahead of it. Be like, yeah. Oh, my God, what will I do? I'm probably just going to, like, die alone because I'm just, like, so unfuckable.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And you say that. Maybe not that exact thing, but you say like, yeah, I'm gonna die alone. Right, Kirsten, what's your point?

[Richard]

Yeah, Kirsten, do you feel good? Yeah. Kirsten. Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Kirsten, you're like, kirsten, you good now?

[Richard]

Richard and Henry, you look cooler to.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Everyone in the room. We good now, Kirsten? Okay, let's all go back to having a good time.

[Richard]

Okay?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, baby.

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[Jackie Schimmel]

What do you think is a character flaw of yours?

[Richard]

Oh, without a doubt. No hesitation. I can lack empathy. I can be very, very unempathetic towards myself and towards everybody else. I don't have like an amazingly large sensitivity chip, so sometimes now I've learned to just fake it a little bit. It's good self awareness because it's the best I can do. But I don't really have like the threshold to sit at a lunch and like hear my girlfriend complain about her boyfriend over and over and they break up and then they get back and then she hates him and then this, this happened and then that. I have little to zero empathy for like, and even things that are worse than that, like I'm a little desensitized.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're going to be more like the Friend that's like, okay, so we've had this conversation 10 times. We can't talk about this anymore. Like, you got to break up with him or shut the fuck up. Do you think that comes more with, like, experience and age?

[Richard]

I think it comes from a lot of things. I think I'm like, pre disposition to just be like that. I've kind of always been like that, which is terrible. And then I've, like, been through shit. I lost my mom pretty suddenly. I, like, I've been through, like, a lot of, like, seemingly traumatic events, and I don't use those, like, as a crutch. I don't know. I just. I. And you're not supposed to do this. You're never supposed to, like, compare, like, traumas or tragedies. But, like, I would. I just. I think that a lot of complaining is so counterproductive.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I actually can totally see where you're coming from. My best friend had lost her father, and I remember having a conversation with her where she was like, everything now just sounds so, like, dumb. Like, shut the fuck up.

[Richard]

Oh, my God. And then, like, I mean, you'll get friends that call you that need to talk about, like, something that is so trivial. And if you're someone who doesn't like, I. And I'm working on it, but I'm not someone who likes, like, leans on people. I've. I try. I've been better about it. But, like, I don't like attention for sad stuff.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Huh.

[Richard]

I get that. I have a hard time understanding and comprehending and, like, being a pillar of support for people who are so comfortable getting attention for sad stuff.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You know, I think it's also. There's a lot of people that find like. Like, almost get fueled and find, like, connection through.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Connecting, being, like, just complaining about everything to people, their person.

[Richard]

Trauma bonding.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I actually, I am similar to you in that aspect of, like, I remember. I would be interested to know if this affected you with your husband. But, like, I remember in the beginning of dating, my boyfriend would always be like, okay, I am your partner. I can tell you're upset about something. Like, do you want to share it?

[Richard]

Totally.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I'm, like, grossed out by, like, talking about my issues.

[Richard]

Same.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Because I feel like I'm too aware that they're like, it's trivial to me. It's big right now, but this is trivial. Like, I don't need. We don't need to talk about it. I'm upset about this. Like, let's move on. Where then my Partner's like, yeah, but like, this is like, if you're upset about this, like, let's talk about it.

[Richard]

Totally.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Does Andrew ask you to be like, babe, can you give me like, a little something here?

[Richard]

Yeah, I think that he. Yeah, my husband definitely, like, feels close and wants to share and wants. And I'm. I just, I've worked on it a lot. I still have a lot of room to grow because it's just not my thing. Like, it is not my default setting. It is so uncomfortable for me. I get, like, just. I'm just like, icked by it. I'm a self processor and I just. It's where I do the clearest thinking and healing. And I get defensive sometimes, even with friends, because I feel like they. It validates them for me to dump or to, you know, emotionally. It validates the relationship or that I'm turning to them or I'm leaning on them. And maybe that's me being like, like, up and guarded, which it could be, but I don't need to do that. So I don't want to do that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I. I just think, listen, if you feel like you're. You process alone. I think especially for women, you almost feel like, what's. Why do I not want to like.

[Richard]

Or you're being guarded or you're like.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No.

[Richard]

Secretive. It's so. Not everyone's different. Like, if you don't feel like sharing, you don't have to.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I agree. I agree. Okay. You brought up your mom.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I have a lot of people write in that are like, how do I handle grief? And I understand everyone deals with it differently.

[Richard]

Totally.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, my God.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

How would you give advice to someone that is, like, recently going through grief? Just, like, how to even understand it, handle it, move forward?

[Richard]

I mean, it really is like, case by case. And I think that people who are, like, going through, like, a very difficult time should know that literally everything is temporary. Like, everything in the world is temporary. And for me, I was. I like, went through like, a really weird time where I was just. Like, my whole world was shook. Like, everything I thought I knew was different. Like, everything, like every security anchor was gone and I was like, freeballing and I was like, what the fuck? So in those situations, whether you're grieving or not grieving, like, and your life is uprooted and you're in transitional periods. It's like you either sink or you swim. But for me, stagnant is not an option. So obviously, like, I go through so many things. It's like a random Tuesday, where you're just, like, crying in a car and you're like, what the fuck? I've always used humor to deal with everything. It makes everything easier. And for people who don't understand, I totally get it. I've got friends that are like, you're so fucking weird. This is so dark. What is wrong with you? I understand that, too. For me, I've always used it. It makes everything easier to digest. It's not like. It's not deflective coping. It's kind of like, it is what it is. You know what I mean? And I would say you kind of have to make, like, an internal decision. Are you gonna sink? Are you gonna swim? For me? My whole agenda when my mom died, my throat's closing up.

[Alex Cooper]

Can I drink my juice?

[Richard]

I'm, like, sweating. Do you have any vodka? When I, like, really got in the mindset where I was like, I don't want attention for. I don't want to walk into a room and get, like, the loose clutch on my shoulder of people being like, how are you doing? And how's your dad? And are you okay? And your mom loved you. I'm like, no shit, bitch. I know my mom loved me. She hated you. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you start getting in that mode where it's like, now people, your whole identity is like, you're walking around with a black veil. Some people love that. We call them grief groupies. This is the problem. There are human beings who are finally getting attention, and they fucking love it. So you go through something terrible, and then everyone feels bad for you. And then everyone shows up with the casseroles, and you feel like you got a little gold validation sticker on your fucking forehead. That's where you get into a weird rhythm of being the victim. That's not the vibe, because that has an expiration date. And then everybody goes back to work in three months, and everyone fucking forgot because it's no longer relevant to you. Still very relevant to all the other people. Doesn't matter. So I think, like, you have to. I just always said that I was going to, like, commemorate my mother's life with living the fuck out of mine. It doesn't mean that you don't have terrible days. It doesn't mean you don't feel sad or you miss them. That's always going to exist. But why would you not want to. Want to experience your. Like, why wouldn't you want to just have a good day when you can have a fucking good day? And a lot of that is about, like, emotional boundaries and people who don't. Who don't serve you. Like, it becomes like this whole aftershock wave. You have to kind of just like dial it in and do the best you fucking can.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Richard]

It's really. I don't even. I feel like I haven't said anything.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, no, but I think you said so much and it's helpful to hear.

[Richard]

Because it's just a decision.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I think that's really.

[Alex Cooper]

I don't want to use the word.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Powerful, but, like, you, the way you articulate it, you said. You did say so much. Because I think that there's a mentality. Yeah. Of like. I mean, I've talked to my friend Lauren about this. Like, her trying to decide, like, where. Where am I gonna go with my life? Because I have my life and my dad has his life. And, like, there's just a lot of shit you have to deal with internally of, like, separating your own self from. Then what happened. If that makes any fucking sense.

[Richard]

Thousand percent.

[Jackie Schimmel]

But also still knowing, like, that's your parent and you. Like, it's. It's. It's confusing.

[Richard]

There's so many layers to grief and, like, every instance is different. All I can say is that you just have to, like, make a conscious decision that you're not gonna walk around with a vigil candle and a fucking deli platter and shiva flowers like Alex Cooper.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's all coming full circle back to.

[Richard]

The end of flowers. This is why I was triggered.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're literally like, do you know any.

[Richard]

Funerals I've been to with the sad fucking deli platters? I can't even go to a valley deli anymore because I've been to so many fucking funerals. And the Jews love deli platters. And then you're like, can you imagine? You just put a family member in the ground and then you're making like a pastrami sandwich and then you look around and you see these urns and the fucking shitty ass Ralph's flowers.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's cerebral, is fully triggered. She's like, why did you bring me here? I thought this was to be fun. No, I. I really do appreciate. My last question about this, which I think is very important, is there are people that on this unself aware spectrum, have no idea how to handle if a friend is going through something and has lost someone in their life.

[Richard]

Okay, okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And can you just quickly explain things that have, like, been. You don't have to give examples, but you could have things that are said that you're like, don't say this, you fucking idiot.

[Richard]

Please don't say everything happens for a reason or you will get slapped. Everything happens for a reason. Thank you. Thank you, Katie. Have fun with your mom. Like, shut the fuck up. Don't do not anything that is on some spiritual, religious bumper sticker. Don't you dare drop that shit. Don't do it. When you see a butterfly, don't say that's. I. I could tell that was your mom. I hate butterflies.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You get a fly swatter, you're like.

[Richard]

I swear to God, I saw a rainbow yesterday and I knew it was your mom. I was like, do you want to get hit? Do you want to get hit? Do you want to get hit?

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's. This is. This is what?

[Richard]

This is. Help. She did this for you. So when I bought my house, okay, I. This is like a whole other conversation. Okay, I found my house. It was unlisted. It was off market. My realtor calls me. He's like, hey, there's this house coming for sale. I only wanted to buy it in this one neighborhood, Whatever. So I go to the house, I break in. It was vacant. The guy was dead. Whatever. Broke in through the back.

[Jackie Schimmel]

The guy's dead inside.

[Richard]

No, thank God. Went to hospice in Texas. Dead, out, fine, great. Vacant. So I, like, you know, jimmied my way in, and I was like, oh, my God, I love this house. So I'm talking to my grandparents, and they said, oh, how's. How's your guys house hunt coming? And I'm like, oh, it's. It's good. I think I found a house today. We're gonna put an offer. And they're like, which house is it? We used to live in that neighborhood. And I give them the address, and it was my mother's childhood home. So I now live in my mother's childhood home. Okay. I did not know. I had never been there because when my grandparents, like, lived in a different state, we never went there. It would it, right? I wasn't alive, right? So that automatically made me hate the house because I was like, oh, my God, that's so weird. Now it's gonna be like this whole, like, butterflies and rainbows and like, like, bashare bullshit. I'm like, I'm not dealing with it. Oh, my God. So I then got into, like, a severe bidding war where I had to basically bankrupt the entirety of our bank accounts to get this house because I loved it so much. It was locked up in probate, blah, blah, blah. Took me like a year to get this house. Very ruthless bidding war. So I overpaid by, like. Like, an obscene amount of money that I can't even really say out loud because it will be alienating and disgusting. Whatever. So I get into this house, I have my family over for, like, the first holiday, and every single motherfucker looks at me with that fucking hand, with that loose little grip, the little shoulder grip in the upper lip, quiver, and says, your mom got you this house. Your mom brought this house to you. And I'm looking at them, and I'm thinking to myself, I've had to spread my legs, metaphorically, behind a microphone and hawking every product under the sun on Instagram like a shameless, ruthless prostitute for years so that I could buy this house. Because I bought the house. I wanted to buy the house. Me, I bought the house. Bled my bank accounts dry, and you have the nerve to tell me that this bitch, my dead mother, brought me the house? If that was the case, I would have fucking inherited it. I would have bought it before the pandemic when the housing market was a little more stable. Okay? How dare you? And it took everything in me. I was clutching my martini glass, like, with a white knuckling it, and I just wanted to bash it over everyone's head. And I even said to my dad, I'm like, if one more motherfucker says to me that my dead mom got me this house, I'm gonna lose. Somebody's gonna die in this house. And then the property value will really plummet. And we'll have to borrow your flowers for the Shiva.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's. It's so short. You are leaving today with them. I'm gonna.

[Richard]

I'm not taking them. I hate them.

[Jackie Schimmel]

These are real. These are real.

[Richard]

Okay. We couldn't go low and tight. Had to go. Couldn't go low and full.

[Jackie Schimmel]

He's crying. Come here.

[Richard]

Sorry.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. He's crying.

[Richard]

He's upset, Henry, Because.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, this is my. This is my thought.

[Richard]

Mm.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Shut the fuck up.

[Richard]

Please.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Just shut the.

[Richard]

This sucks so bad. I'm so fucking sorry. This is terrible. Like, what do you. What can I do?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay. That's what I was gonna say. Everyone deals with grief differently, so follow your friend's lead. If it's also not your fucking friend and its acquaintance. Shut the fuck up.

[Richard]

Please don't. I had. It was so funny. Like, I had a friend that would, like, weaponize, like, my grief. Like, it wasn't. Like, I wasn't like. Like I wasn't, like, coming to her to cry. Like, I was going to other People. And then she like, do you not, like, feel comfortable with me or do you not, like, feel close to me? And I'm like, you're literally the worst.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, you're making this about you. How are we.

[Richard]

You suck so bad. And honestly, like, I should send her an edible arrangement because I need to thank her because she made the whole experience, like, so diffusive because I was like, oh, wow. Like, you just took me out of my grief because now I just want to fucking head butt. You're so stupid.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Wait, like, what.

[Alex Cooper]

What do you mean?

[Jackie Schimmel]

How is this. How did we make this about you?

[Richard]

What movie are you. What? What? It was like I had a stroke. I was like, poor Qua. Do I need to, like, do I need to apologize to you because I'm not, like, sad enough for you?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I think that's the wrap of. Up of. That is like, if it's. If it's not your shit shut. Just. Just literally, you don't need to, like.

[Richard]

Not talk, but, like, it's not like that. It's just, like, read. Just let the person read the room, do their thing.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes. Thank you.

[Richard]

And that's totally okay. That is such an extreme place of privilege to not understand, and I honestly think that's amazing. And you should just, like, run with that. It's fabulous. You lucky son of a bitch. But yeah, it's like an. It's an extreme. It's an extreme tier of privilege to like, not understand that.

[Jackie Schimmel]

That level.

[Richard]

And that's cool, too.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Totally. But if acknowledged, you don't know it. And so don't act like you have any fucking comprehension of what happened.

[Richard]

I love when, like, a friend who was like, I know. Like, I lost my. My pet kitty when I was 3, and I was like, cool, even.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, sorry to say this, I need to move these.

[Richard]

Yeah, please.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Even. Even. And I'm not trying to be an asshole, but even grandparents. Grandparents.

[Richard]

It's the circle of life. Cue Simba.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Let me guess. They were 80, 90, like, lie down, go to sleep.

[Richard]

As Kelly Ben's mom once or Bethany Franklin said, go to sleep, right? Like, they. They had a good run, right?

[Jackie Schimmel]

And that's, like, natural. Like, what were you expecting? They were gonna have, like, a revive and just start, like, it's. It's. It. That was how it was supposed to go.

[Richard]

Oh, my God. My grandpa was like, literally, I was prepared for him to die for, like, 12 years. My parents were like, listen, grandpa's, like, not super healthy. Like, totally overweight, like, had a terrible lifestyle. They told Me, this when I was seven. That fucker hung around till I was like, 25. It became, like, a bit in my family. I was like, you're still here. I've been prepared for years. I grew out of my fucking funeral dress.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, you're so right.

[Richard]

It's like, I have one black outfit. I don't even fit in it anymore. Grandpa. Jesus Christ, you're milking the clock. Turn.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So I can put you in the urn. Urn. And Alex can put you in here. We can play.

[Richard]

He did a much bigger urn. He was a very obese man. It would take up the whole room.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Shout out, Jackie's grandpa.

[Richard]

Love you.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Love you. Is he still here?

[Richard]

No, he's dead. Wow.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Alex. Okay.

[Richard]

Long gone. Okay, we're off.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're moving off the grief topic. I think my last thing is this. This is actually just out of curiosity. What happened to your Zimmerman dress?

[Richard]

Oh, this is still on the topic of grief, by the way, I've experienced so much loss.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You're like my grandpa. Let's talk about the Zimmerman dress.

[Richard]

The Zimmerman dress. Honestly, you know, hindsight's 20 20. I'm like, I'm too cool for a Zimmerman midi dress. Like, I've evolved. Jesus, this is funny. Okay, okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Give it.

[Richard]

Well, I was attending a baby shower, okay. And I was trying to find something. Like, I found this dress. It was a Zimmerman dress. It had, like, a molded cup balconet with a cutout. Pockets. She loves pockets. I love pockets. Okay. And it was in my size. I didn't have to wear a bra. I looked cute. It, like, I had just had a parasite. So I was very gaunt.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You were, like, winning.

[Richard]

Like, literally. My clavicle was protruding and I had, like, an upper rib cage thing because I was shitting out my colon for weeks.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No. This is like, people are gonna be pissed. When we were at Tower Bar, you were like, I've just been feeling, like, a little, like, just, like, blown or whatever.

[Richard]

Yeah.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And Jackie turns to the waiter. She's like, could I get some, like, expired salmon?

[Richard]

Like, do you have a raw salmon filet that's unrefrigerated? The guy did not get that at all. He was like, pardon? I was like, nevermind. I'll just have the brands, you know?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, so you're gaunt. You're ready with your dress?

[Richard]

I was ready to rumble. Found this dress. I had it hooked in the back of my car, and I have a convertible. And I was doing a bathroom renovation. I'm very hands on with my renovations. I love The Home Depot. It makes me feel alive. Insecure girls go to Home Depot. Wear something tight and sexy. You will get accosted.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You know what's crazy? Sorry to cut you off, but I remember back, back, back in the day where I said some controversial shit. I was self aware enough to know that if I went to the University of Arizona I was going to be like a five on the scale. Boston University.

[Richard]

It's the same thing at a Home Depot.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Give me a 12.

[Richard]

If you go to a Valley Home Depot, you've got better odds if you go to like anything off the 405. It kind of depends. It's a. It's all about geography.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You could run into Giselle. So you're gonna be the toad.

[Richard]

Canoga Park, Home Depot. You'll never feel anything like it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

So you're saying you go there and you feel the hottest, most beautiful.

[Richard]

It is the Victoria's Secret Fashion show reboot at the Home Depot before 10am when all the contractors are there. Like, there's no, like women, like, you know, you're it. That's it. So I was there at about 7:35 in the morning.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Jesus.

[Richard]

I know. Rise and grind. Okay. She's got construction literally grinding with contractors in aisle four. And I was in a bike short, looking so cute, sawing my own fucking trim. I needed like one piece of trim for a door. I was trying to wrap it up, you know, and the trim was very long. So I had, I figured the only way could fit it in my car was to put my top down and shimmy it in the front so it could hang out the back. Okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Richard]

Super safe.

[Jackie Schimmel]

In your convertible?

[Richard]

In my convertible. This is like final destination. Okay. So in, in the transportation of my trim piece, I had the dress hooked on the back. Okay.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay.

[Richard]

And I'm driving on the freeway and I'm holding my, holding the trim because I didn't really feel like having it. God forbid. I mean, honestly, in hindsight I wish that that trim would have fucking hightailed it out of the car and like punctured the car behind me. And I could have kept the dress because I didn't have something to wear to the shower. I couldn't find anything. I'm holding the trim, I'm driving like cursing the day that my husband was born because he's like off at a trip somewhere and I'm just schlepping lumber. Literally schlepping lumber. And I look behind me and I all of a sudden, like I'm driving and I just see Like a pink, like, like a pink parachute rising into the sky off the 101 Freeway at 7:34 in the morning. And I'm like, huh? I look behind, it was like, slow mo. I see my fucking dress, catch wind and fly the fuck out of my car. Okay? So now I'm like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. Like, how do. What do I. What do I even do? So I call highway patrol. I get off the freeway, I didn't even know who to call. I literally was like, I have a dress. It was $850, by the way.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Okay, okay.

[Richard]

Tags attached.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Oh, God.

[Richard]

Glad I did. You know, it wasn't my journey aesthetically, but it was an expensive dress that I never got to fucking wear. And it was sold out in the size I needed because everyone kept sending me the certain sizes. I needed a 2, 2 for the tits, 2 for the tits, 2 For the tits. Sold out. So I pull over on the side of the road. I'm now like pilfering through bushes.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You get out of your car.

[Richard]

I kind of. I did a little peruse, okay, I did a little peruse. But then I thought, you know what, I called the highway patrol. They're gonna return it. Like, they're gonna get a dry cleaned for me. I had a massage and I.

[Jackie Schimmel]

What world are you living?

[Richard]

I don't know, I listen, I live in suburbia. I figured, listen, I call these guys. I'm like, I have a dress that flew out of my car.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, I feel like they get caught. No, literally, you're abusing.

[Richard]

Someone was stabbed. Yeah, usually it's like there's a ride.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Someone'S on the side of the road, Someone was stabbed. There's an animal that's dead.

[Richard]

There's a car kidnapping.

[Jackie Schimmel]

My Zimmerman dress was $900.

[Richard]

Could you guys do a loop? Could you guys. One of those zigzags, you know, where you shut the freeway down during rush hour. I'm like, it has cutouts and pockets. It's like so cute, so good. It's so hard for me to find a dress where I don't have to wear a bra.

[Jackie Schimmel]

They're like, ma'am. You're like, no, no, no size shoe.

[Richard]

And like, I just like, I don't know, like, should I pull over on the rug? Like, I don't know, like, I just feel like this is like a safety breach. I've already been like sexually harassed at Home Depot. I' like get picked up and what are they saying? I mean, they were laughing of Course.

[Jackie Schimmel]

As we all are now, Jackie, we.

[Richard]

Were laughing, like we were having a good time. I'm like, here's where I live. Like, there's a dry cleaners down. I was like making all the jokes, you know what I mean? So I thought 100%. They're gonna fucking. They're gonna pick it up, drop it off. So then I like, you know, I had to deliver my trim pieces. I've got guys on the clock. Okay. I'm not fucking around. And this is also relatable and likable. Daddy gang's gonna love this. Then I had a massage and I. So my phone was in my locker, whatever. And I had posted all of these stories. In one of the stories that I had posted on Instagram, you can see the dress off the freeway. You can see its exact location. Like under a fence, under a pickup truck that was parked on the side of the road.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Like, it's like behind you while you're filming.

[Richard]

You can see the pink.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Someone spotted.

[Richard]

I missed it. Yeah. So all of a sudden I'm getting like so many messages of people circling. Like, I see where your dress is. I see where your dress is. I knew exactly where it was. I get back in my car, I drive back, it's not there. The next day, the dress in my size, tags attached, sold out everywhere. Is available for sale for pickup in the Los Angeles location of the real, real. Full price. Full price.

[Jackie Schimmel]

And I'm like, no.

[Richard]

So some shady fuck, honestly love them. If you did this, I will, like, show yourself.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yeah, we respect.

[Richard]

I respect you. I like you. I will go to Tower Bar with you and we'll get raw salmon right there. Some shady ass bitch rolled up because I was giving like, like very specific geographic.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I remember you posting, like, if you.

[Richard]

Get off at Canoga and make a.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Right like somewhere near there, there. And thinking, these are people that love me and support me. They will bring the dress to me. They will get it dry cleaned and bring it to me.

[Richard]

I thought someone like, I imagine like a Bunch of Girls 25 to 35 in Bible merch and like highway patrol. Like, neon vests with flashlights. Like, searching for this dress that's in my head where I like just hawking macho with their shih Tzus, like, patrolling the valley for my dress. A search and rescue mission.

[Jackie Schimmel]

You didn't think?

[Richard]

No, I never thought.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Naive that a little cunt was gonna say.

[Richard]

And you know who'd do something like that? Me. Let me tell you something. When I was 18 years old, if I found out some bitch had a Zimmerman dress go airborne off the side of the 101 freeway and it was tags attached for 8.50 and I was eating Bagel Bites for three weeks. You think I wouldn't be tits deep on the side of the freeway searching for that fucking dress? You are dead wrong. So I can relate and I respect it.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I have no words. I. I guess we have to we end it by respectfully respecting the con that went out of her way.

[Richard]

This one's for her.

[Jackie Schimmel]

This one's for her. Whoever you are, I actually would love, love if you reached out to us.

[Richard]

Show yourself.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We would actually really respect you.

[Richard]

I will. If you're like, well, no, no, no. If this person exposes themselves with receipt. We need a receipt from the real real. I need like all like, I need a full manila folder to showcase that it's you. I will take you to Zimmerman and I will buy you a full outfit. It was me, Alex.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We're going to Zimmerman Jockey.

[Richard]

I know. I'm sweating to bring the mood down.

[Jackie Schimmel]

No, no. I love how when I'm like grief and then you're like, no, I'm gonna bring it down even more.

[Richard]

Yeah, Grandpa, light your vigil candles.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I love you. Thank you so much for coming. I'm sweating. I'm gonna pee my pants. This was a great episode.

[Richard]

Henry, wait.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Let's pull the dogs up for one quick come.

[Alex Cooper]

This is what you do. When you have high standards and fancy all the fancy things like an iconic Dior saddlebag or that diamond tennis bracelet, you go to ebay. There you'll find new loves that will never disappoint, expertly authenticated and everything. Whether it's that vintage pearl necklace or brand new ruby earrings, a Prada crossbody bag to be besties with your other handbag. Even an eternally classic like that Rolex oyster or that Cartier tank. You know the one. And when you find it, ebig has their experts eyes to make sure you're getting the real deal. That way you can be confident that the designer finds you came for the luxury wardrobe you've always wanted. It's all real. In fact, it's verified authentic. So bring your high standards and never limit what you can find. Yeah, eBay. The place for new pre loved, vintage and rare fashion. EBay things people love. Daddy Gang. Ever since I started Call Her Daddy, I have really been inspired by the ability to be an entrepreneur and to expand outside of the podcast or even within the podcast. Right? Like I sell merchandise that is directly correlated to the group of amazing community that we have built here on call her daddy. And a huge, huge part of me being able to expand in an entrepreneurial way is Shopify. Shopify is a commerce platform that allows you to start, grow and manage a business. It is the one commerce platform behind the big brands you know and love, including Caller Daddy. So, daddy gang, if you are an entrepreneur, you are trying to grow your business, you are trying to start a business. Here is my number one tip. Get onto Shopify because you do not need to be doing all of the backend. Shopify basically operates as your back office, replacing the need for a full staff to oversee your operations. Like when I am selling my merchandise, Shopify is the leading cause of how I am basically able to make that happen and to get sweatshirts and sweatpants into your hands. There's a lot of themes that you can choose from and Shopify's easy to use. Drag and drop editor can build your store so it's unique and it really looks like yours. You can customize it. You can make it your own. The point is, daddy gang, when you're an entrepreneur, all of it feels like it's falling on you. It is constantly so much pressure. And my big, big, big piece of advice today for you is it is time to build your brand. Head to shopify.com daddy to see how easy it is to start your business today. Whether it's for merch products or the next best idea. Head to shopify.com daddy so you can start your empire.

[Richard]

Okay. Can I the flowers now?

[Jackie Schimmel]

Yes.

[Richard]

What? I need to defend the flowers now. Oh, did do this. I do them every week. They're one of my greatest prides.

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[Richard]

Let me just tell you. Okay, I'm sorry. This week I went to both Bristol farms and Ralph's. Went twice, bought a pair, still didn't think they looked good enough. Went back for more. Those pink ones I hate are the only ones that I could find. And it's been a journey.

[Jackie Schimmel]

Jordan, let me also defend you.

[Richard]

It's not the flowers.

[Jackie Schimmel]

The vase is not your fault.

[Richard]

No, it's not the flowers.

[Jackie Schimmel]

It's.

[Richard]

It's the turquoise. Alex is like, I really wanted.

[Jackie Schimmel]

She went to color me mine.

[Richard]

I was like, you're a Christmas gift. Alex was like, I really want a green vape.

[Jackie Schimmel]

I thought I wanted it to be like a color. And Jordan said, she's great at that.

[Richard]

Is the best news.

[Jackie Schimmel]

We don't take it personally. We are. We need to get it together.

[Alex Cooper]

Daddy gang, holiday shopping season is officially here. And it can feel so overwhelming trying to find the right gifts for everyone on your list. So here is some advice. Don't overthink it. Just go to Sephora. Here is what I want you guys to think about. Every time you're stressing getting someone a gift, it's like, okay, does someone on your list have a face? I am guessing yes. Gift them makeup. Okay. Do they have skin? Yes. Quality skincare products are always a hit. Do they have a nose? Grab the best fragrance. The best in makeup, skincare, hair care and fragrance are always at Sephora. Not to mention exclusive gift sets too. So this holiday, don't overthink it. Give something beautiful from Sephora. Call Her Daddy is brought to you by Netflix Daddy Gang have you guys heard of Maria Callas? She was a legendary American Greek soprano and one of the most iconic performers of the 20th century. Starring Academy Award winner and icon herself, the queen Angelina Jolie and directed by Pablo Lorraine, Maria is a new film that reimagines Maria Callis final days as the diva reckons with her identity and life. Maria is in select theaters now and only on Netflix December 11th. Maria is rated R. If you spend.

[Henry]

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[Richard]

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