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Call Her Daddy
Kim Petras: The Throat Goat (FBF)
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Kim Petras joins Call Her Daddy for a completely unfiltered interview. Kim speaks about her career's evolution, starting from her wild days in the gay clubs to her recent Grammy win. She reflects on how music became an outlet for her and shares her experiences navigating her identity as a transgender artist. Kim opens up about her dating life and the two burst into laughter when they realize they have the same celebrity crush. They don’t hold back at all and discuss butt dialing your parents during sex, throwing up while giving head, hooking up on the first date and car sex. Finally Kim shares how she has earned the title of throat goat.
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Alex Cooper
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Kim Petras
What is up, Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy. Kim Petras. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.
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Guest
Yay.
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Kim Petras
Hi.
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Guest
Thanks for having me.
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Kim Petras
I am so, so happy you came in your sparkle clogs.
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Guest
Hell yeah.
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Kim Petras
You showed up.
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Guest
Bust them out.
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Kim Petras
How did you pick your outfit today?
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Guest
Just kind of. I went off the clogs. They really dictated everything else. I don't know. Just kind of felt like witchy. I've been in my witchy vibe.
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Kim Petras
You need to confirm for everyone, though. Are they comfortable?
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Guest
Yeah, they're comfortable. Like, I would say, like, like pool slide vibes. Pool slide just a little heavier.
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Kim Petras
But you're not going to, like, run in those.
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Guest
No. Even though I probably could and should.
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Kim Petras
I just have to say, I'm so happy for you. You are everywhere right now in the best way. Your music, your personality, like, everything you're doing is just fucking incredible. And I got so excited for you. You won a Grammy. Hi. Yeah, like, no big fucking deal. How did it feel to win a Grammy and how did you celebrate?
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Guest
It felt insane. It felt like something that just shouldn't happen to me, honestly, you know, I'm. I'm such a. Like, you know, I've just been performing in, like, gay clubs for so long and been like, in that scene. And like, Sam really changed my life with that song. And I mean, I went to Diplo's party after, so that was really, really fun. Diplo's fun. I'm a big fan. And yeah, just, like, saw my friends and we were all just like, in disbelief. Just like, oh, my God, this really just happened. And I'm so grateful I got to, like, shout out Sophie on. On stage and that I remembered that too, because, like, I could have just blacked out and, like, I thanked my mom. And so it was just like, such a, like, big moment that I didn't think would happen. Ever since then, it's just been, like, a lot less sleep. Like, it's definitely like, post Grammy. Like, it just, like, kept going and kept getting more and more and more, but I like it, so it's cool.
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Kim Petras
Dude, that is so crazy to think about going on stage and accepting a Grammy and just being like, I hope I can get my words out.
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Guest
I know.
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Kim Petras
I hope I say one thing that, like, did you have a full speech planned or no?
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Guest
I did, but I, like, five minutes before, like, our category was on, I just, like, put it away. And I was like, just speak from, like, this moment and from your heart. And yeah. Because Sam really put me on spot. Sam was like, I want to have you accept the Grammy if we win it just because I've done it and, like, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, please, no, don't do that to me. Like, I was like, please. But I'm so grateful now that I, like, did it. And, like, I'm such a shy and nervous person in my life, which you wouldn't think for my music, because my music is kind of where I live out my craziest ideas and fantasies. But I'm pretty shy person. And so, yeah, that was wild. And I remember, like, looking at, like, JLo's face and, like, Jay Z sitting there and just being like, I can't believe this.
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Kim Petras
That's so interesting. I feel like now, having sat down with people in the music industry, like, we were talking about Anita.
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Guest
Yes.
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Kim Petras
How Anita the best shout out. We love you, Anita. But Anita also kind of talked to me about that of, like, she's actually really shy. And then, like, she has this alter ego that she infuses into her music. And it's just the way that she's able to, like, put her, I guess, side, like, personality that she wants to be into. Anita, the character. Yeah. Which is kind of cool. Do you feel like that's similar with you?
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Guest
1 million percent. I feel like that's always just been like, my saving grace in life from, like, my shyness. It's just when I'm on stage, it's like something clicks and I'm a completely different person, and I just feel in line with everything. I don't overthink myself. I feel, like, confident because, like, the one thing That I know how how to do is perform and write songs. Like that's always been like everything else I'm like horrible at and just like can't fit. Like I can't even cook. Like I can't do. You know, I love how you're like.
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Kim Petras
I can't cook, but I just want a Grammy.
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Guest
That's right.
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Kim Petras
It's okay, Kim. It's okay. I think we would all take that over being able to cook.
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Alex Cooper
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Kim Petras
You also were recently on the COVID of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit. Growing up, did you ever picture yourself being on the COVID of a magazine?
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Guest
No. I was in my school. Like, I remember being like such a, like, freak to everyone because, like, since I was a kid, it was like very public that I was trans and, like, I was very open about it. And so I was just kind of this like, nerdy, weird kid. And like, no one thought I was like, pretty or sexy or anything like that. And so I, I doubted being able to do that stuff. And especially being like, in a swimsuit was like, I was. I definitely had like a nervous breakdown like the day before. I'm like, can I like, pose in a swimsuit and be that? Because I just. Yeah, I didn't think I could. But then there's like amazing people and photographers and like the whole sports illustrator team who just like hyped me up and were just like, you know, making me feel so good about myself that it like all just like, happened. Like, they really made Me feel like I belong on the COVID And it makes me want to cry because, like, I, I, I'm such a person who just, like, doesn't think of themselves as, like, you know, all that.
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Kim Petras
When you say that when you were younger, that you're like, people never saw me as, like, sexy and cute. When do you think you started to actually, for yourself? Did you always feel sexy and cute? You're like, you guys, like, I'm sexy and cute, or did it come at a certain point?
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Guest
I mean, I'm still waiting. No, I mean, I honestly, I think what gave me a lot of. A lot of confidence and what built my confidence was becoming an artist and becoming a writer and going on stages and stuff like that. And once I kind of found my, like, friends and, and gay people in general who, like, celebrated me for who I am and that whole, you know, I think once I started going to gay clubs, I was like, I belong here. And I, I get the music, I get the people. I get what it's all about. So I think that's when I started to like myself and all of that. But I think in general, like, it's. It's never, like, my goal to be, like, sexy or to be hot. It's always like, I want to bring, like, a little bit of a, like, weirdness to things because I've always felt like I was kind of just, like, on the outside of things. And I find. I don't know, I find more happiness in looking a little off and a little weirder than just looking hot.
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Kim Petras
I totally get what you're saying. Sometimes I actually think it's way better to feel like you're a little outside, because then you're also just going based off of your own parameters of, like, half the time, we're just trying to be like other people. That's so boring. Like, I don't want to be like anyone else. But I also think I appreciate you saying, like, I'm still working on it. No one, even you, can look at Kim online. Like, she's got it all together. She's winning Grammys. She's hanging out with celebrities. It's like. But we're all still working on ourselves in some capacity till the day it's over.
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Guest
So it's like, for sure, you have to. You have to.
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Kim Petras
We. And you're from Germany, right?
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Guest
I'm from Germany, yeah.
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Kim Petras
Can you tell me in German how to say welcome to call her daddy?
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Guest
Vikom, Sue, Nancy, Fata. Oh, German is the unsexiest language of all time. I feel like that's why I also, like, I've just always been, like, a little more the weird German immigrant, you know, in. In America, because, like, it's just not a sexy language. I have a song on my spooky Halloween album where I sing German, and it comes in handy when you want to sound scary. Oh, most people are really scared. When I. Like, when I yell at you in German, you're scared.
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Kim Petras
Wait, can you yell at me in German? Like, alex, fuck off. Get your shit together. Ask me better questions.
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Guest
Alex, fake dish. Give me best of a frog. Hello.
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Kim Petras
Oh, my God.
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Guest
Alex, give me a best of frag. Right? It's scary.
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Kim Petras
That is scary. But, Kim, I do kind of feel like you made it kind of sexy. Like, if, like, I think you have a little. You got.
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Guest
You got something dunkishin.
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Kim Petras
Oh, okay. I'm gonna learn how to say all that by the end of this. Okay, so you talk about how you started your career in gay clubs all around the country. Yeah, clearly, that was such a huge part of your coming up. And in this industry, how did people in the clubs initially treat you and, like, how did they like you and your personality and your vibe and your music?
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Guest
I think they just really immediately kind of got it. I mean, I remember, like, my first few years, like, going back and forth from New York and just kind of being a club kid and having my first few songs out and just, like, performing on a bar stool or like a table, you know, like, and people were just like, I get this and I understand this. And just, like, since I'm a part of the community, it's like, it makes sense. But they were the first, like, all the little Bushwick kids, like, were the first ones to play my music. And I'll never forget that, because was, like, with a lot of, like, going into, like, labels and stuff like that. It was a lot of. We don't know what your demographic would be. And, like, is it. You know, you make gay club music? And it was kind of a. In a bad way and not in a good way, like, to them, because, like, that wasn't going to make as much money. And that's always really confusing to me because to me, that's like, the coolest thing. When people play you in gay clubs, right?
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Kim Petras
That's literally all you could ask for. Like, you want. You want all the gays being like, fuck, yes, this is the boss. Like, what the. Oh, wow. Did that ever kind of affect you in your musical decisions? Like, did you ever find yourself being like, should I go A little bit more one way.
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Guest
I think if anything, it made me double down on it. Like, it just like whenever someone says that something is like, something that I'm passionate about and something that I love, I go harder in. That is not it. I go harder in that direction. And I feel like. So that honestly gave me, like, so much, like, will to like, prove that there's people who will come to my shows and that I can have a big song and all of. All of that stuff.
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Kim Petras
Yeah, and we can sell. We won a Grammy.
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Guest
Yeah, we can totally.
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Kim Petras
We want a Grammy.
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Guest
We have number one.
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Kim Petras
When you're saying you're in these clubs, do you remember any, like, early fun stories for us of, like, memories from performing in these clubs that have stuck with you of, like, just iconic moments for yourself and your career?
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Guest
Signing dicks is one of them.
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Kim Petras
That must be. Yeah, that's pretty up there. That's pretty good.
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Guest
Totally, like doing my fans poppers on stage, hitting weed pens from my signing. Weed pens. Yeah. I signed all kinds of body parts. I hung out with the hottest porn stars. Yeah, like, it was. It was. It's wild and I love it. And I still, like, every now and then. I just, like, need it. I just need to go. Go to, you know, like a warehouse rave and go crazy and do all that. But, yeah, those were, like, iconic moments. I think also Mandalapora, being at my first gig, Mandela poor. Is this, like, New York icon. And yeah, just so many iconic people that. That I've met through clubs.
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Kim Petras
That is so cool to just be like. That's also how your career started of, like, basically you're just having fun partying and you're singing and everyone loves your music and you're just like, thr. But I wonder, do you ever. Yeah, I was gonna say, do you miss that? Because then you're, like, standing on stage and it's a little bit more formal. Yeah, there's some more choreograph.
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Guest
I do miss it a little bit. I miss mostly going to. To clubs undetected. I can go to stray clubs now on Detective, but I can't go to gay clubs anymore without taking a million photos. And I. I party. You know, I feel like I really love to, you know, just party and not think about how I look. And, you know, that that might be not the. You know, I'm, like, sweaty and red and all the pictures and so. So that's put a little bit of, like, pressure on it. But, like, I feel like I've. I figured out my, like, disguises and stuff like that. And yeah, honestly, like, I need like, a fake beard and like. Oh, yeah, I feel like that'd be really good.
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Kim Petras
Like a little short haircut, crew neck, little wig.
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Guest
Totally.
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Kim Petras
Maybe like red or maybe that's too much attention. Maybe a black sunglasses, huge mustache.
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Guest
Totally. A detransition moment.
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Kim Petras
Just like, I don't like this. I am actually interested too. Growing up in Germany, like, what is the difference between nightclubs in Germany versus nightclubs in America?
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Guest
Oh, I think it goes way later in Germany. I think people are down to be there until the morning, which is fun. Especially if you, like, think about, like, Berlin and like Berghain and all that stuff. It's definitely. And there's more techno, there's weirder music in general. It's just like a lot of electro music. I would say house music is huge.
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Kim Petras
Do you prefer American clubs or German clubs?
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Guest
Ooh, they both have their, you know, pros and cons, I think in general, like, now, like, American clubs because, like, I need to actually be up the next day and do stuff. Right.
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Kim Petras
I always, when I was younger, was like, I was liking going out late, but now as I get older, I'm like, why can't we start at 5:00?
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Guest
I know.
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Kim Petras
Start raging and go to bed by midnight. And, like, I can do the same. We can drink the same. Like, we can do all the same.
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Guest
I endorse this. I endorse this idea. Like, I love, like, starting early now and just like, waking up the next day. Not completely. Like, completely. Yeah.
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Kim Petras
Because in your next, like, 48 hours, you're just not a human being functioning in the world.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
And I can't afford to do that with this career.
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Guest
Yeah, totally, you can't. And me neither. Like, we have to, like, do shit now.
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Kim Petras
Yeah, exactly.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
So American clubs. Just because it's a little bit more responsible in terms of our timing.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
If we're trying to have a good time, let's go to Germany.
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Guest
Definitely. I think people in general just, like, go a little more crazy there.
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Kim Petras
Got it. What is your favorite song of yours to hear played in a club?
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Guest
Oh, my favorite song of mine to play in a club. Treat me like a slut. Yeah, I. I have this record called Slut Pop, which is all just like my sluttiest self and just only saying the most ridiculous sex there is, which was so freeing and fun to make. And honestly, like, I feel like all my coolest fans, like, that's their favorite. So. Yeah. Treat me like a slut.
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Kim Petras
I love that. Answer so much. And we're gonna talk about Slut Pop in a little bit because it's truly iconic and it's color Daddy. Something very cool about your career is the fact that you are self made. You have been doing this since you were super young. You were teaching yourself how to write and how to produce in your bedroom. Where do you think that drive came from?
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Guest
Honestly, from being excluded from social life, I feel like no one really got me, you know, in my like small town in Germany because I'm not, not technically from Cologne even, which is already kind of a small city. I was like two hours outside, like countryside, cows, grass. And I just, I loved music. That was kind of the one thing that I would always do, like always listen to music on repeat and pop music in particular. And I would just harmonize and make my own little concepts and things like that. So I think it's just something that comes like natural to me. But then I would just like sit down in my room and just really every single day. Because I didn't like school. I wasn't very good in school. I wasn't horrible in school, but I was like, okay in school. And I was just like, I'm gonna be the next biggest hit songwriter. And that's a skill I can work on every single day. And yeah, and then I got into writing jingles for like commercials and trying to write for other artists pitching songs and yeah, I really felt like, feel like that is just like my, my savior is that I'm able to write music. Yeah.
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Kim Petras
It's so inspiring to hear you talk obviously about like there's a lot of people that can probably relate to you of like being really isolated when you're younger, not feeling like you're fitting in and just like trying to find an escape, which you clearly found the best escape for yourself and it worked out. What would you say to your younger self that like Kim sitting in her room alone, just being like kind of isolated and getting picked on, live a little.
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Guest
I would say that I was like really like a maniac, just like only working. And I feel like my whole teen years, like I didn't go to like parties. I was like, just like, just fully focused. And so I would tell myself to live a little and that things are going to happen when they're supposed to happen and that, that, that, that it's all going to, you know, work out and that it's okay to go with your friends and it's okay to try and have a social life because like the answer isn't Always just like, well, they all hate me. So I just got to be by myself and, like, be this, like, studio goblin. You know, I can actually also just. Yeah, but. But also was a little bit of a different time. I mean, that was, like, so long ago now. I. I legitimately didn't know anyone else trans. And, you know, so I was an Internet kid. I would just find people online who I could talk to and things like that. Yeah.
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Kim Petras
That's why, like, the Internet is. I hate it and love it because.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
You're so red. Like, I remember when I was younger, like, YouTube, I would find, like, anything that you were going through if you were alone, you could find someone somewhere.
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Guest
On the Internet on the same. Yeah, yeah.
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Kim Petras
And so there's, like, a saving grace, obviously, of you saying, like, I didn't know anyone trans. I was by myself through it. And I know you've been open. Like, your family was very supportive of you. But still, even when, like, your parents are like, we got you, it's like, Kate, mom, dad, like, love you. But, like, I, like, yeah, I need people my own age to relate to and to connect to totally. So I appreciate you sharing that. I know you've also been really open in your gender journey from a very young age that, like, you said at one point, you felt very boxed in and labeled and that everything became about being trans and you just wanted to be seen as a person.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
Which I can imagine. It's like, in every single interview, you're like, I'm an artist. But so many people want to also talk to you about being trans. Where are you now in your career and your journey of having your own identity and accepting yourself, but also, like, putting boundaries of, like, we don't need to talk about every thing every single time.
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Guest
Yeah. I feel like it's a unique situation, so I like to talk about it now because I feel like it's. It's something where. Yeah, it's just, like, a unique point of view. And I think it comes in as my strength sometimes that I get to write from that perspective because, like, that's always just going to be a big part of me, that. That I am trans. And I think that gives me, in songwriting, like, such an interesting angle. And I think what's so special about music is that that is, like, when I came to America and started going to studios, it really didn't matter who I was. It just mattered. Like, am I good? Is my songwriting good? Can I sing? You know, And I feel like the more art that I get to Put out. The more music I get to make, the more I become an artist rather than, you know, all the labels that people put on me. And it's not just a trans thing. I mean, it's like if you're a woman and you make music, people just talk about you being a woman in music or you being a gay man in music or all of that stuff. You know, we all just get. Get boxed into this label that defines us. And I think trans people in general are a good reminder that gender and all of that stuff is just a label. And it really is all about who you are in, you know, inside and, and not about all the stuff, you know, Just because you're this doesn't mean you have to like this or do this. And gender is, is a much, is a thing that matters a lot less, I think, and says a lot less about people than we think. And yeah, you are whatever, whatever you want to be and whatever's in your, in your mind and.
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Kim Petras
Yeah, absolutely. No, I love it. No, it's so true because it's like when you break it down, it's like just let everyone do whatever the they want to do.
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Guest
Yeah.
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Kim Petras
And it's. Stop trying to just talk about people in one specific way. No one would be happy if the roles were reversed. And you're just saying one thing about someone. We're all very multifaceted.
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Guest
Totally. And every person is their own thing.
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Kim Petras
Totally.
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Guest
And I feel like just, just more than ever, I'm, I'm just trying to, you know, show people what's, what's in my mind, what, what, you know, what my music is about, what I stand for, rather than, you know, all the. Just talking about being trans all the time.
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Kim Petras
Completely. Totally. I think your accomplishments, I mean, we could go through them all, but they speak for themselves. Like, you've, you've really popped off in an unbelievable way. You've had such an incredible career already. What a full circle moment that one of your biggest idols, Madonna, introduced her performance at the Grammys. What is it about Madonna that inspires you?
- [26:12]
Guest
Well, I think Madonna is someone who, who broke a lot of these, like, gender stereotypes and who can be very, you know, masculine in some of her music and talk about sex very freely and in a very different way. And just like, was so ahead of her time in like, liberating people from feeling this shame about their sexual and especially gay people. I mean, she did that shit in the 90s when it was really, really rough for gay people. And I will forever just like feel inspired and liberated by her taking the hit for so many people. Because she really, you know, was called, like, a witch. And like, all this crazy stuff for just talking about her sexuality and just being so all out there. And I respect that in someone if they can be so. If they can let that bounce off of them. And like, well, I'm still going to talk about whatever I want to talk about. I'll never forget, like, right before the performance, right before, because there was a little break, because it cuts to me. She had like, a little whip and she was like, like, mouth to me, like, go get a. And like, like, whipped her little whip. And I was like. I was like, literally just. And I was tied up in this cage, so I, like, couldn't say anything back. It was. Was like, arms up, like, picturing you.
- [27:32]
Kim Petras
Trying to, like, give her the nod. And you're like, I wish I could have.
- [27:35]
Guest
What do you do? Do I, like, do a kick? Like, totally.
- [27:41]
Kim Petras
The whole cage falls over. You're like, dude, that is picturing you, like, fully tied up, just being like. Like, do I wink?
- [27:50]
Guest
Do I think I know?
- [27:52]
Alex Cooper
Oh, my God.
- [27:52]
Guest
Yeah. No.
- [27:53]
Kim Petras
I so agree with everything you're saying about Madonna. It's. It's so crazy to look back at certain eras where we were so young and watching, like, every generation has it where there's certain people that just become essentially the people that are breaking down barriers in. And in that generation, I know so many people were like, madonna's crazy. Like, she should be taken off air. Like, she shouldn't be able to do this. And yet what people didn't understand is she was having such a needed conversation and allowed the next generation of performers to lean even further into it because she did what she did. And it's so cool that you now can be on stage trying to give her a wing.
- [28:33]
Guest
Not totally. It's. It's so freaking cool. And, like, what's. What she said too? Because, like, I think she was saying that she was supposed to, like, do like, the record of the year or something like that. And she said she wanted to introduce the first trans performer at the Grammys. And, like, I was like, like, you really are the. The coolest to ever exist, you know? Yeah.
- [28:51]
Kim Petras
Didn't you meet her for the first time drunk at an SNL after party?
- [28:55]
Guest
Yes, she came to the SNL after party.
- [28:57]
Kim Petras
How drunk were you?
- [28:58]
Guest
I was so obliterated. I just kept talking her, like, ear off about Confessions on the dance floor. And I was like, that's one of the best, like, albums ever. It's A timeless classic. And, like, people don't really, like, appreciate it enough. And like, when he did this on Ray of Light, it was like the most. It changed my life. I was listening to it. I felt like so much less alone. Alone. And like, I was just talking. She was like. And then she was like, we should take a picture. And I was like, thank you so much for saying that because I would have just talked her ears off for hours.
- [29:25]
Kim Petras
Yeah, she's like, sweetie, let's just pose so you can catch a breath.
- [29:28]
Guest
I know, I know. I'm. I'm. She must think I'm insane.
- [29:31]
Kim Petras
No, no. I bet she gets it all the time. And also, it's just, it's. It's so genuine. That's also just so iconic though, for you to be like, hammered at a party, being like, Madonna, like, I love you. We love you, Madonna.
- [29:43]
Guest
I love you so much.
- [29:44]
Kim Petras
Okay, Kim, we're going to play a game.
- [29:46]
Guest
Let's play this game.
- [29:47]
Kim Petras
We're going to play. Would you rather. Okay, some of these are really fudgeing random, so don't judge.
- [29:51]
Guest
Okay. I love it.
- [29:52]
Kim Petras
Okay. Would you rather accidentally post a nude on your Instagram or butt dial your parents during sex?
- [30:02]
Guest
Posting it on my Instagram, I feel like I have no, like, decency left anyways. Like, you can find nudes of me anywhere. So it's.
- [30:10]
Kim Petras
I was going to say, yeah, I.
- [30:11]
Guest
Feel I've, like, had my tits out at every shoot. Like, it's like, yeah, at this point I'd rather do a nude because, like, I feel like calling my parents during sex would be disturbing for them and.
- [30:22]
Kim Petras
For you after, when you live.
- [30:23]
Guest
Definitely.
- [30:24]
Kim Petras
Because also, how bad to find out that you butt dialed them, but you figure out after she're replaying, like, what was I saying during sex? Like, how nasty was that sex? Like, what was I doing? Like, what were the noises like? Just my dad couldn't see me. The same my mom couldn't see. Yeah, the whole thing.
- [30:37]
Guest
Yeah.
- [30:37]
Kim Petras
Yeah. Okay, great. So rather post a nude. Love that. I agree. Would you rather go a month without sex or a month without music?
- [30:46]
Guest
A month without sex. I'm definitely there. Yeah. I'm so single and like, honestly, like, I've just been so busy. Like, there's no hope right now, but it's like, okay, like, I'm very happy. The thing is, like, the, the music almost acts like a, like, as that, like, excitement and like that crush that I'm obsessed with because I can just like listen to it again and again and again and like, get really obsessed and, like, change little details about it. And, like, all the little crushes I have on the side always end up in the music. So I, like, I make it and then listen to them and think of them and how they're not with me.
- [31:20]
Kim Petras
That's actually great because you can't have them.
- [31:22]
Alex Cooper
Right.
- [31:23]
Kim Petras
And you can, like, re. Listen to your music all the time in, like, a not stalkery way that you're, like, not over texting the person. You're just re listening to your music.
- [31:30]
Guest
I'm not, like, rewatching their stories. I just listened to the song I wrote about them a million times.
- [31:34]
Kim Petras
I think that's a great, great answer. I know you love horror movies, and I know you love Halloween. So would you rather never be able to watch a scary movie again or never be able to dress up for Halloween?
- [31:51]
Guest
I mean, Halloween is gay Christmas, you know, it's like. It's so. So in me, I think. But never watch a horror movie again. That would be a. Okay. Halloween is just once a year. I would, like, you know, just, like, shut my doors, be a total witch in the hills, like, see no one, and pretend like Halloween doesn't exist and watch horror movies.
- [32:18]
Kim Petras
Yeah.
- [32:18]
Guest
So I would pick that.
- [32:19]
Kim Petras
And then you can just go dress up another time of the year.
- [32:21]
Guest
Yes.
- [32:22]
Kim Petras
Okay. That's fair. I like that. Would you rather someone who is absolutely silent or someone who screams the whole time?
- [32:30]
Guest
Someone who screams the whole time. At least I know that they're into it, you know? Like, but silence would just throw me off. Right.
- [32:37]
Kim Petras
Like, at least you know they're there.
- [32:38]
Guest
Yeah, totally. It would just make me feel like they don't want this to happen. And that would be. That would really be.
- [32:45]
Kim Petras
I've had, like, some hookups where the guy is so quiet, and I'm like, I just need, like, a couple grunts.
- [32:51]
Guest
Like, I know. Me too.
- [32:52]
Kim Petras
Like a light fuck. Like, oh, fuck.
- [32:54]
Guest
Like, I know. I hate that. I hate that. Like, a lot of guys are, like.
- [32:57]
Kim Petras
Two in the zone.
- [32:59]
Guest
Yeah. Like, I'm not gonna make any noises, man.
- [33:01]
Kim Petras
Like, right.
- [33:02]
Guest
Come on. Just do it.
- [33:03]
Kim Petras
Just let it go.
- [33:04]
Guest
Totally let it go. It's like, honestly hot.
- [33:06]
Kim Petras
I agree.
- [33:07]
Guest
Yes.
- [33:07]
Kim Petras
Would you rather never give head again or never receive head again?
- [33:12]
Guest
Never receive head again. Giving head is, like, the funnest thing of my life. Honestly. Like, it's so fun.
- [33:18]
Kim Petras
We're gonna get into the throat goat.
- [33:19]
Guest
Yes.
- [33:21]
Kim Petras
Don't worry. We're getting there. Would you rather accidentally bite someone's dick giving a blowjob or throw up on It.
- [33:30]
Guest
Oh, it's such a rough one. I feel like accidentally bite. I mean, it's not defined how hard it has to be. You know, maybe it can just be a little tooth. Right?
- [33:41]
Kim Petras
Like a little.
- [33:42]
Guest
A little too.
- [33:43]
Kim Petras
Snaggle tooth.
- [33:44]
Guest
Yeah, like just a tiny bit tooth.
- [33:46]
Kim Petras
Right.
- [33:46]
Guest
Is better than throwing up because I don't think I could work that out in therapy.
- [33:50]
Alex Cooper
Right, Right.
- [33:51]
Kim Petras
Like, it would have to be the kind of throw up where. Cause I've had that before where you basically do throw up, but you. Oh, you get all back up before it leaves.
- [33:57]
Guest
In that case, extra lube.
- [34:04]
Kim Petras
Anything.
- [34:05]
Guest
Free lube.
- [34:06]
Kim Petras
Chunky lube.
- [34:10]
Guest
Oh, my God, I want a chunky lube T shirt.
- [34:14]
Kim Petras
Chunky Lube T shirt. They're like, what does that mean on the back? Throw up.
- [34:17]
Guest
That's my brand. I'm gonna make. So good. So good.
- [34:20]
Kim Petras
Would you rather have drunk sex or high sex?
- [34:24]
Guest
High sex.
- [34:24]
Kim Petras
Me too. So much better.
- [34:26]
Guest
So good.
- [34:26]
Kim Petras
Would you rather be in the Mile High club or in someone's car?
- [34:30]
Guest
Someone's car, Yeah. I feel like planes are like plane. Bathrooms are just gross, disgusting. I totally. But I respect it. Like, I. I have some, like, friends and like, especially, like my gay friends that I like, travel with. They're like, yeah, sat next to the hot guy and then we fucked. And like, I'm just like in my pod like, with like my eye mask on and like.
- [34:52]
Kim Petras
Yeah, it's not sexy. And like, I think maybe the allure could be like, oh, you have to be quiet and hide it. I don't really want to have to do that. I'd rather be in the car just, like, using the seatbelt. Like, choke me out. Let's go. Let's have a good time. Like, let's get weird.
- [35:04]
Guest
Yeah. I feel like cars are just in general, like, such a good spot. Like, be in a car with a boy and.
- [35:10]
Kim Petras
Yeah. And they can move to what's happening. It gives a little, like. Yeah. It gets a little foggy. There's a lot of good Titanic. Exactly. Both of us. Let's talk about your dating life. You said, you know, you're in a. You're in a little dry spell, and we love that. So you're not dating anyone?
- [35:27]
Guest
No, I'm not dating anyone.
- [35:29]
Kim Petras
Are you interested in dating at all?
- [35:31]
Guest
Yeah, I mean, I'm interested in it, but honestly, I feel like it's been something that's just like, I'm good without too. And I feel like I've always been a relationship girl. Like, I love a relationship. I'm not Like a quick hookup girl. Even though, like, sometimes, you know, I don't have a choice. Like, sometimes I have, like, boys in different cities. Like, that I can just call up in every city. That's a fun thing to be on because I know you got your road beef. I know my real beef. Yeah, no, that's good. But just right now, I just feel like I don't know who would, like, fit into my crazy life right now.
- [36:10]
Kim Petras
Yeah.
- [36:10]
Guest
Because I'm just, like, always doing and always traveling, and I'm never in the same space for long enough to even, like, really, you know, do something meaningful.
- [36:19]
Kim Petras
I was going to say. Yeah. Like, what is dating life like now as a pop star compared to, like, maybe a couple years ago where you still had, like, a little anonymity?
- [36:28]
Guest
Yeah, it's. It's really changed. And I feel like people are just in general, like, a little scared of me now, which is kind of good. You know, it just, like, weeds them out. Like, you have to just, like, say that you want me now.
- [36:38]
Kim Petras
Right.
- [36:38]
Guest
Or, I don't have time for you. You know, my clock just slipped the full clog.
- [36:43]
Kim Petras
It felt like it 500 pounds. We just hit the floor. You're like, I don't have time for you. Boom.
- [36:48]
Guest
Yeah.
- [36:49]
Kim Petras
Oh, that's interesting. So, like, does that make you sad a little bit that you think, like, do you have. Do you think people are seeing a Persona of yours and then you have to, like, deconstruct it and be like, I'm not really always like that.
- [36:59]
Guest
Yeah. I think in general, like, Sub Pop really changed how guys see me because, like, I feel like a lot of the guys that I'm dating have hurt Slub Pop and, like, no, that. And they're like, you know, and it's like, yeah, I'm the girl who sings Throat Goat, you know, And. And they just feel like they have to, like, live up to this crazy expectation. And that's, like, not. You know, it's like, such a Persona for. For that record that it's like, that's. That's not me. You know, I'm also someone who just, like, wants to watch horror movies with you and, like, cuddle and be cute.
- [37:31]
Kim Petras
Totally.
- [37:32]
Guest
All of that. And I, like. The last thing I want is for you to be scared of me.
- [37:35]
Kim Petras
Right.
- [37:36]
Guest
So if you're scared of me, I'm immediately cutting you off, because that makes me feel horrible about myself.
- [37:40]
Kim Petras
You know, I get that.
- [37:41]
Guest
Like, I'm just, like, a genuine person, and I really feel like I'm. But I have Crushes on the wrong guys, like all the time.
- [37:49]
Kim Petras
Really? What, do you have a type?
- [37:50]
Guest
I. I don't really. I feel like every single guy is like, is very different. I think the type that I have is just like the energy, being good and, and them being funny, being honest, being like loyal. I think that's like the big ones for me. And just like how I like sweet guys. I like when you're sweet, you know.
- [38:09]
Kim Petras
But you just said you're picking some of the wrong guys, so.
- [38:12]
Guest
Yeah.
- [38:12]
Kim Petras
What's going on?
- [38:13]
Guest
So the not sweet guys. Yeah, I don't know. Just guys who like keep me like dangling or I think they have to constantly like do stuff to, you know, keep me obsessed with them. That I'm on the road and like, then you don't talk to me and then I'm back. It's just like.
- [38:28]
Kim Petras
Yeah, it's exhausting.
- [38:30]
Guest
It's exhausting.
- [38:31]
Kim Petras
Do you let your friends set you up with people or.
- [38:34]
Guest
No, I do. Yeah. I went on a date with a guy who my friend set me up with recently. Didn't really go anywhere, but it was, it was fun because like sharing similar friends, you can at least talk about the friends.
- [38:46]
Kim Petras
True.
- [38:47]
Guest
You know, you can just like talk about. She's so cool. She's the best.
- [38:51]
Kim Petras
Like you have a commonality to talk about.
- [38:52]
Guest
Yeah.
- [38:53]
Kim Petras
So you're not like, how's your drink?
- [38:54]
Guest
Yeah.
- [38:56]
Kim Petras
You could be like, Rebecca's a bitch, right?
- [39:00]
Guest
Totally. Yeah. I let my friend set me up for sure.
- [39:05]
Kim Petras
When was your last relationship?
- [39:06]
Guest
My last relationship was like one and a half years ago and that was like a five year relationship. So like a long one. So I feel like I'm still like anyway at the part where like I need to like be myself, get over that relationship and all the stuff that that did to me because it wasn't like a very nice relationship and made me feel awful about myself for a few years and that's the worst. I should have like cut it off when I felt it. But yeah, I, you know, it was, it was the first time I broke up with someone and the. Thank you. Thank you. And the first time that I, I just really feel like I, I did the right thing and listened to my intuition and got out of it. And I know a lot of people who don't get out of relationships that don't fulfill them and they're almost like a new person when they get out of it. Like, it's like, oh my God, you're back. And you know, like you're, you're like yourself again, and you're happy again. And so that's my main thing. I never want to, you know, I mean, and no one wants to, but just. I really don't want to be in any relationship that doesn't make me feel good and feel great, you know, because I'm such a pleasing person. And, like, I feel like I always used to just, like, I just want you to be happy, and I don't care if I'm happy.
- [40:20]
Kim Petras
Yeah.
- [40:20]
Guest
And that's. That's a bad thing. And I think that goes back to me as a. As a kid, as a teen. Like, I just hope one day, like, a guy can see me as a girl or show me any attention, you know, and, like, see me as a normal person, not as a freak, you know? I think it goes back to that. Me just wanting to, you know, well, he likes me, so I'm gonna do anything for him and, like, completely forget that I have value as a person. Yeah.
- [40:44]
Kim Petras
I think that's so relatable, Kim. And, like, I also love how you were like, oh, my God, I should have gotten out earlier, but I'm so happy I did get out. I think so many times we're so hard on ourselves because when you're so deep in something, it's really hard to actually make the jump, to envision life, even if it's toxic without that person, because you've been living in it for so long. You have your routines. That still is the person that you're with all the time. And, like, you just become so attached to something that you almost forget, like, what life was like before them. And a lot of times, it was so much better.
- [41:16]
Guest
Totally.
- [41:17]
Kim Petras
It's hard, but it's hard to get out.
- [41:18]
Guest
It's really hard, but it's like, like, you're. You're gonna live, and it's gonna be okay, and you're gonna figure it out again. You're gonna get back into it. And honestly, life, like, on your own sometimes can be so much more, like, purposeful and fulfilling. I feel like, really, I personally, like, thrive when I have, like, time by myself where I just literally do whatever. It's, like, recharging. And I think, in general, like, I wish I would have done that in my relationship more. And. And, yeah, I mean, I feel like relationships are the hardest thing to. To figure out. They really are. And so hard. They're really, really hard. So really hard. But right now I'm having fun, and that's awesome. And I feel like I'm just, like, finally, like, back at the place where I, like, love being alone and spending time by myself and where I just shut my door and just do whatever.
- [42:13]
Kim Petras
Amazing. What is your perfect ideal first date?
- [42:17]
Guest
I don't think there is one. I really think that first dates are always gonna be a little awkward. And, like, I just like, you know, I. I feel like my. My first thing I do is probably try to drink because I'm so nervous. I get really, really nervous. And it's such an awkward thing when, like, you know that you, like, technically are attracted to each other, but, like, you have to, like, figure it out. A little dance. But I feel like, in general, just doing something, like, active, like going to, like, an arcade or going fun stuff.
- [42:53]
Kim Petras
Yes. Doing something. So you're not just sitting across the table being like, yeah, hello.
- [42:57]
Guest
Totally.
- [42:58]
Kim Petras
How are you doing?
- [42:59]
Guest
Where you can actually do something.
- [43:00]
Alex Cooper
Yeah.
- [43:01]
Guest
But I also like. I like when you show me, like, one of your favorite places that you actually, like, actually love going instead of, like, I want to try out this new place. Like, just show me, like, where do you actually go?
- [43:11]
Kim Petras
Are we. What are we doing, Kim? Are we on the first day? Are we waiting? Like, do you have any rules in your head or do you just do whatever the fuck comes to you?
- [43:19]
Guest
I live in the moment. I've definitely done the first day, you know, fuck. But I think it's usually when I do that, like, I'm then, like, not interested anymore. It's like. Yeah, I feel like it's just like, I need to, like, give it time and, like, I need to be, like, obsessed with you and, like, you're like, I need to let it simmer for a bit more. I realize now because, like, once I broke up, I would just, like, go home with, like, like, every single one of them every time. And it was really, really fun. I had a great time, you know, But I feel like when you. When you really give it time, it just makes it more special and cooler.
- [43:57]
Kim Petras
I love how you're. I love Kim's out here breaking everyone's hearts. Like, gives them the best sex after date one. And then you literally just ghosting everyone. Like, nah. You're like, I was happy. That was great, but I'm over it. On to the next.
- [44:08]
Guest
Yeah, well, I'm just like, in the next city.
- [44:09]
Kim Petras
Right, Right. You're gone.
- [44:11]
Guest
You're gone. Yeah.
- [44:12]
Kim Petras
Oh, my God. That's actually. That's. I've never heard someone say that. You get. You're over it once you have sex the first time and you're just like, that's Boring. Okay.
- [44:20]
Guest
I mean, maybe it was just the guys. Maybe it was just a situation. I. I don't like to, like, make a rule in general, but I think just, like, the guys, like, I went home with, I was just like. I just needed, like, rebound attention.
- [44:34]
Kim Petras
Totally.
- [44:35]
Guest
And so I just like, totally. And then I was like, eh.
- [44:38]
Kim Petras
So I get it. Growing up, who was your celebrity crush?
- [44:43]
Guest
Legal Austin. Lord of the Rings. Like, Kim. That wig.
- [44:48]
Kim Petras
No, Kim. Let me tell you something. 3. Three of the people that I like, I'm like, what's wrong with me? Number one, Johnny Depp. Specifically as Captain Jack Sparrow.
- [44:58]
Guest
Yes. Okay.
- [45:00]
Kim Petras
Number two, Legolas Orlando Bloom. Specifically as the elf in Lord of the Rings.
- [45:04]
Guest
Hot.
- [45:05]
Kim Petras
The hair and the ears. And then Edward Cullen as vampire. But I'm like, wait, what are we, like, weirdos that were like, specifically as an El Elf?
- [45:13]
Guest
Yeah. No, specifically as an elf. Yeah, in the wig, as that character.
- [45:17]
Kim Petras
She's so hot.
- [45:18]
Guest
I know. It was so hot. Like, I, I. Because I totally. Yeah. I don't know. That was just like, I. I remember, like, have, like, having a poster of him and, like, just being so obsessed with him. And I will forever be obsessed with him.
- [45:31]
Kim Petras
Me, too. But you must think just Legolas.
- [45:35]
Guest
Yeah.
- [45:36]
Kim Petras
His name is Orlando Bloom. And I bet Orlando Bloom never thought, like, like, of all the roles that I've ever played, everyone in the world's like, the hottest version of you.
- [45:45]
Guest
The hot elf, baby.
- [45:46]
Kim Petras
Hot elf. Legolas. No, I'm not kidding. If you guys have. Actually, I feel like if you don't have the context, like, if you just Google him, it. You may all be like, you guys are freaks. Watch the movie. Because the context is important. He's just so, like, I don't even remember. He's just great. His vibe is great.
- [46:04]
Guest
His vibe.
- [46:05]
Kim Petras
He's hot.
- [46:05]
Guest
So good.
- [46:06]
Kim Petras
But he looks amazing.
- [46:07]
Guest
Yeah. And he looks amazing. It looks stunning.
- [46:09]
Kim Petras
I. I have to be honest. I really never thought that I would sit across from someone in my entire career and have someone say the same thing that I think of Legolas Elf Orlando Bloom. I'm like, what the fuck?
- [46:21]
Guest
And that's why we're unhinged.
- [46:22]
Kim Petras
Here we go. That's why we're here.
- [46:24]
Guest
And that's why we're here.
- [46:42]
Alex Cooper
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- [47:35]
Guest
Okay.
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Alex Cooper
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Kim Petras
Today, let's go to Slept Pop. Okay, you've been mentioning it, but now we got to Talk about it. You coined the term slut pop to describe your music. Can you define slut pop for those who may becoming fans today?
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Guest
Yes. Slap pop is this really euro house dance 90s inspired EP. And me and my friends would always make pop songs that were slightly slutty and say, oh, this is love pop. And so I just decided to go with it and make an EP and just be the most slutty version of myself that I could wish I could be in life, you know, But I feel like I'm too shy to be that all the time. So, yeah, I just kind of let. Let it all out on that one. And a lot of people were really had interesting reactions to it. And I think it's the funnest thing in the world to scream out the most obscene and just. Just be like, I'm a me. You know, it's just. It's so freeing every time I do it. It's addicting. And, and yeah, I recommend to check it out. It's just.
- [50:34]
Kim Petras
What are some of your craziest lines that if people haven't heard it, it's like, give it. Give them a little something.
- [50:39]
Guest
Okay. These can't suck like me. Walk in. I'm the sucking queen. Look around. All eyes on me. Jack it off. I'm a suck it clean. The. What's my name? What's my name? I'm the throat goat. Yeah, yeah, it is.
- [50:59]
Kim Petras
It is poetic. It's beautiful. It's touching.
- [51:03]
Guest
To me, it's pure beauty. You know, if. If you art, you know, you. You might not get it. You might get it, but if you.
- [51:12]
Kim Petras
Get it, yeah, you really got it.
- [51:14]
Guest
Like a slut Little dirty. I love to. It's so.
- [51:18]
Kim Petras
It's so good. Kim, other than your own catalog, what's a song or an artist that you would also classify as like, slut pop?
- [51:26]
Guest
Oh, Britney Spears blackout era. That.
- [51:29]
Kim Petras
Yes.
- [51:30]
Guest
It's just the best. So, like dirty and full sweatpot. Yeah, that was definitely a huge inspiration for that. I also think that Kylie Minogue has a bunch of songs that I would. I would put on Slut Pop, dude.
- [51:43]
Kim Petras
I'm thinking about how you kind of said like people after slut pop, like, people were kind of intimidated by you because it's like you're coming in here being like, I am the throat goat. Like, I like and all this. When did you actually start to just become really confident about talking about sex?
- [52:00]
Guest
I think in. In general, when, when I made that, I think I was just like in a phase of my life where I felt Like, I was like, a little, you know, just not talking about that part of my life enough. And I have so many friends, and especially as a trans girl, it's like, that. Are sex workers. I. You know, porn is great porn. Like, sex work is work. And it was a moment where OnlyFans was gonna ban sex workers from its platform, which would have taken away, like, the livelihood of a lot of my friends. And so I was like, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that. And I think that, like, everybody needs to stop, like, villainizing sex workers, because there's all. There's a huge demand for it, we need it, and there's nothing to be ashamed of stuff. And I. I also always think, you know, if my life hadn't gone the way it did and I hadn't, like, been able to transition really early and stuff like that, I would have probably, you know, done that to be able to transition and to be able to be myself. So I wanted to take the shame out of it for my friends, for myself. And I think, just in general, people need to be less afraid of it. And I think especially women and girls, there's so much power and, like, loving sex, and, like, you should love it. You should figure out what. How you know, what you like about it and not be, you know, please men. Like, that's not the goal. Like, in sex, it's like, you having a good time. And so I'm just a huge supporter of that. And that's been something that's been hard for me to figure out, you know, because, like, I have always just been, like, crazy for guys and, like, how can I please him in any way? And. And once I kind of broke out of that, I was like, it's about me, too. And, yeah, so I love also that I had.
- [53:48]
Kim Petras
Actually, someone recently asked me. This reporter was like, I, back in the day of Caller daddy came up with this thing called The Gluck Luck 9000. And it was just like, you know, my go to blowjob move. And I remember this reporter being like, you know, it's so good. It's so good. And I remember the reporter being like, you know, if you're a feminist, like, then, like, are you ashamed that you coined that term and that you were teaching young girls how to give blow jobs? And I was like, absolutely not. Because, of course, there are certain things in the past that I was like, probably way too appeasing of a man. But specifically with that, it's like, I just go to say, like, I love pleasing My partner. Like, that doesn't mean you can't be a feminist. If you're like, I also love giving my fiance head and, like, making him feel good. That's part of sex. And that gets me off by also making sure my partner is having a good fudgeing time. So it's like, we need to talk about the throat goat. Because as much as we're like, girls enjoy sex, it's also like, you can also be down and pleasing your partner is also a part of enjoying sex. It's not just a one off situation where you're just like, by yourself. Do. Well, you can do it by yourself. But when you're with a partner, can you talk about the throat go. Can you talk about. Give us some tips? Give us a couple little, you know, Kim, just give us like one little thing. Maybe like a little like, what are we doing?
- [55:05]
Guest
I pull out the bottle like Anita doll. That was iconic. What did she do? She went, she was like, you do this.
- [55:11]
Kim Petras
And then she said, wear the Invisalign.
- [55:13]
Guest
Yes, we're Invisalign. I want to try that.
- [55:15]
Kim Petras
I know. I'm like calling my dentist and I'm like, I just need a bottom. Invisalign. They're like, bitch, your teeth are fine. I'm like, no, just the bottom.
- [55:22]
Guest
It's the funnest thing. Like, I love giving blowjobs. It's my favorite thing in the world. I pride myself in it. And I think that's awesome.
- [55:31]
Kim Petras
It's all on you. Like, you're center stage. It's your time to shine.
- [55:35]
Guest
It's literally your time to shine. And like, it's like, watch me go. Eye contact. Like, that's a very important one. And I don't know, it's just like a little sloppy. I love when boys really like that, you know, And Really?
- [55:50]
Kim Petras
Yeah. It's like, I have to go, no, I love it. And I think it's. Again, I just like that we're talking about it, because it doesn't. There's nothing wrong with enjoying and pleasing your partner.
- [56:04]
Guest
No.
- [56:04]
Kim Petras
And I think sometimes to all, you know, the people out there, it's like, if you are intimidated by it, you have to just reframe the way that you're thinking about it. It's supposed to be fun. You're supposed to. It's playful, it's enjoyable.
- [56:17]
Guest
Yeah. And if you, if you don't enjoy it, that's fine too, you know, Find the things that you really love. For me, I love giving, giving head, you know, And I call Myself, the throat goat, and have been called that.
- [56:30]
Kim Petras
Oh, oh, like. And that wasn't coined just by myself. Thank you. Goodbye. Would you say you're more dominant or submissive in the bedroom?
- [56:41]
Guest
I. I'm pretty subby. Yeah, I'm. But like, I gotta really, like, trust someone and, like, if you really, like, like me to dominate, I. I will do it. And I like when someone can give me a really specific, like, this is what I like, do this. Like, I love that. And maybe that's why I'm subby because I just like, I like in those situations to be told what to do and just to, like, do that. But. Yeah, but also I can be done. I feel like I swing both ways.
- [57:19]
Kim Petras
Love it. Love it. When you say, treat me like a slut, what do you actually want your partner to do, Kim?
- [57:27]
Guest
Fuck me. I don't know. Bend me over. I'm not opposed to a little choking. All that good stuff. Just. Just put me into position and go.
- [57:44]
Kim Petras
I love how you just push your glasses so I could. You're like, goodbye. I'm just. I'm not making eye contact with you right now. Bend me over, put me in position. Let's go. That's good.
- [57:54]
Guest
Yeah. Okay, good. Okay, good. Yeah. But I think in general, just, like, make me feel like you really want me bad and need me, you know, like, that's the hottest thing you can do.
- [58:06]
Kim Petras
Okay. On a. Just quickly, on a little bit more serious note, you're like, oh, girl, don't go there.
- [58:13]
Guest
Out of nowhere.
- [58:14]
Kim Petras
Yeah, just out of nowhere.
- [58:15]
Guest
They get back in. In a car is awesome.
- [58:18]
Kim Petras
But yeah, maybe I should have, like, this is like a little too aggressive of a transition, I just realized.
- [58:24]
Guest
But no, I love it.
- [58:24]
Kim Petras
Okay.
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Guest
Foreign.
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Okay.
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Kim Petras
Obviously, everything that's going on with trans rights right now in America, I just felt like it wouldn't be right if I didn't ask you. Obviously, it's disgusting what's happening, and we're clearly regressing. How are you handling the hateful backlash for, you know, with the trans community?
- [61:56]
Guest
Well, I feel like I need to hold it up for all The. For all the young kids that are trans and getting, you know, their rights taken away and all of that stuff that they're. You know, I. I try to find the best causes to. To help. I try to stay in touch with all my trans friends and all of that. But just in general, I think it's brutal how people treat trans people. It's just like, everybody deserves to live their lives how they can, you know, and the. The way that they know how to get through life. And I feel like the. The judgment around it is still so intense and scary, and there's so much, like, actual, like, murder and things like that in the trans community that are really, really terrifying. And it's such a beautiful, beautiful community. And that's the one thing that I just, like, want people to know. Like, the dolls have each other's backs. Like, we love each other. And I feel like there's so many trans friends of mine that, like, I couldn't live life without that are such, like, beautiful lights. And just remember that and find the people who get you and who support you and focus on that. Because I still get called a man every single day, you know, like, and that's okay. It's funny to me at this point, I'm like, I'm a man, you know, because, like, I'm. Yeah, because, like, I feel like I. I've been called like, that since I was 12 and all of that. So to me, it's like, brush it off at this point. But I know how, like, horrible that that situation can be. And there's just a very public, like, hate campaign on trans people right now that's disappointing and sad. But there's also a lot of people who really care and who really are pushing and just know that, like. Like, it's an up, up and down swing with trans rights. Like, it has been with gay rights. Like, it has been with anyone who's different than the norm. And it's. It's gonna probably get better and swing back around. At least that's what I hope. But in general, know that, like, there's amazing people out there who have all got your back and who think you're really beautiful and you deserve everything. You deserve love. You deserve to be seen to who you really, truly are and don't settle for anything less. I've done it, and it sucks. And, yeah, I love y'all.
- [64:19]
Kim Petras
Oh, my God. Amen.
- [64:21]
Guest
Amen.
- [64:21]
Kim Petras
Amen. Let everyone live however they want to live, you know?
- [64:26]
Guest
It's so annoying.
- [64:28]
Kim Petras
It's just so crazy. Like, the progress We've made in some areas that we're still having these conversations, and it's so infuriating.
- [64:35]
Guest
Yeah. Especially in America. It goes with, like, you know, birth control and things like that. It's the same exact kind of thing where there's just people trying to tell people what they can and can't do with their bodies, and it's wrong and no one ever should. And it really, like, makes it so much harder for people to just, like, live their lives and make their own decisions. And it's just so annoying that our bodies are still being policed by people, and it's.
- [65:06]
Kim Petras
It's truly insane. But I do think it's. We are so fortunate that we can sit here and you can use your music and I can use this show as a platform to just, like, keep talking about it.
- [65:16]
Guest
Totally.
- [65:17]
Kim Petras
I hope it. Anyone that it makes uncomfortable, look inward as to why and, like, start doing the work. And I think everyone that is supporting, like, keep supporting and be vocal and post on social media and. Because I think it's so important that we just keep showing we aren't going anywhere and. And everyone should just be able to do whatever the fuck they want, and we need to get on board with that.
- [65:37]
Guest
I know. It's really not that hard. It really only is hard to people who need to control other people in life to get to be comfortable in life. Like, you need to be able to control your woman, to live with your ego and. And so, you know, because you're too scared she's gonna go in, you know? Yeah.
- [65:57]
Kim Petras
It's all to maintain their power.
- [65:59]
Guest
Yes.
- [66:00]
Kim Petras
And it's like, have your power over there. Let us have our power. Power over here. Off.
- [66:03]
Guest
Totally.
- [66:04]
Kim Petras
But, like, oh, we. I mean, we could sit here for.
- [66:07]
Guest
Hours and tell them that they can't bus anymore. Yeah, yeah.
- [66:12]
Kim Petras
We're snipping you all.
- [66:13]
Guest
Okay.
- [66:15]
Kim Petras
They're like, oh, no, no, no. Okay, do whatever you want. Do whatever you want. You take away their nut. They're like, oh, no.
- [66:20]
Guest
Yeah. Literally, do whatever you want. Never mind. Jk. Jk.
- [66:25]
Kim Petras
Oh, my God. Okay. You have a new album coming out.
- [66:29]
Guest
Yes. Yes.
- [66:30]
Kim Petras
And I'm so excited for you. The album is called Feed the Beast.
- [66:34]
Guest
Yes.
- [66:35]
Kim Petras
How did you come up with that?
- [66:37]
Guest
For me, it was. It started with kind of Feed the Beat because I feel like I constantly need to listen to music and. And just do my thing over beats. Then it turned into Feed the Beast because I had an album leak and my label told me, you gotta get back in the studio, make new songs, and Go feed the beat. And that was literally like, okay, let me think about this. And then I kind of thought about myself and, like, my personal ambitions. And I've always wanted to really play the pop game. I've always wanted to make big pop songs and big melodies and be like a real player in the music industry and, you know, do big shows and all of that. And I was like, there was a part of me that was a little ashamed of that for a while. And I was like, but I'm like a gay club darling. And like, maybe that's just like, all I want and all I want to be. And I was like, no, like, my passion is to go for it. So go feed the beast. Go feed that. What I feel, like, almost ashamed of. To want. Go want that and own it and don't be afraid of it. And, you know, so I feel like for me, the album is a reminder, hopefully to my fans to really find what it is that you can't live without and go all out on it and don't be afraid to take up space and don't be, you know, scared to make it as. As massive as you want to make it and as ridiculous as you want to make it. And yeah, go feed that.
- [68:05]
Kim Petras
Kim, how is this album different than past work that you've done?
- [68:10]
Guest
I think I just. I think I just had it, like a shift creatively where I just like, kind of was a bitch to my co writes and took more control and was like, I just really came in with like, full songs fleshed out again. Kind of. Kind of like I did in the very beginning before people, like, wanted to work with me. I just came in with fully fleshed concepts and then just was like, we're writing this. And I feel like I really took control. I worked with some people I've never worked with before. I, like, travel. I, like, did a bunch in Sweden. I did a bunch in London. So it really feels like that, like, major label really executed on the best level of my ability and. And I'm really grateful to my label for allowing me to do that and for allowing me to take the time to really make something that feels whole and complete and that feels this exciting because I think you're gonna freak when you hear it.
- [69:01]
Kim Petras
I am so excited. Where is the perfect place to listen to this album? Like, are we doing it at the club? Are we working out? Are we having sex? Are we on the beach? Like, what. What's the vibe?
- [69:11]
Guest
In a car getting fucked? Literally. Literally. Really? Yeah. All of those places. I think that's the funnest thing about this. I think it has a lot of. A lot of club moments, but it also. It does have a ballad, which is like kind of an unconventional ballot, which I'm excited for people to hear because, like, never really do that. Like, I'm very against ballads, usually. Like, I love, like, Celine Dion, but I didn't think I could do that stuff.
- [69:39]
Alex Cooper
Right.
- [69:39]
Kim Petras
Here she comes.
- [69:40]
Guest
Here I come. But, yeah, I think you can really. I think you can listen to it from front to back by yourself. Getting ready in the bathroom, you can listen to it in the. In the club, you can. All of that stuff. So I think it's an overall. Overall listening thing. Yeah.
- [69:57]
Kim Petras
I'm so excited for you and for.
- [69:59]
Guest
Thank you.
- [70:00]
Kim Petras
This summer, are you going on tour? What are we.
- [70:04]
Guest
Yeah, not later this year. Like, a little after summer, and that's what's gonna be up. But yeah, I'm going on tour and I'm so, so excited to go on tour because it's been a freaking while and it's my favorite thing in the world and, like, I missed it like nothing else in the world. And so I'll just be traveling. I'm doing a bunch of really cool festivals, like, all over the world, and putting this tour together. I'm, like, in rehearsals a lot, which is, like, my happy place. I love being with my dancers and just figuring out the show and the lighting and every detail. Lots of outfit changes. This. It's gonna be good.
- [70:38]
Kim Petras
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see the outfits.
- [70:40]
Guest
Yes.
- [70:41]
Kim Petras
I am so happy I got to sit down with you today. I've been wanting to do this for so long, and you are like, I.
- [70:47]
Guest
Listen to you all the time. So it's been an honor to be here.
- [70:49]
Kim Petras
Thank you. No, like, you truly have such an energy about you that you're so calm and a vibe and like, you're like, everything. It's just so fun to be able to, like, sit with you and actually get to know your personality because you are so, so sweet and funny and amazing and I just, just. I can't wait to see what you do with your career. This is amazing.
- [71:07]
Guest
Thank you so much.
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Kim Petras
Thank you for coming.
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Guest
You're the best. Thank you, Daddy G.
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