Lisa Vanderpump: Bravo, Drama, & Beverly Hills (FBF)

Summary

Podcast Summary

Call Her Daddy – Lisa Vanderpump: Bravo, Drama, & Beverly Hills (FBF)
Host: Alex Cooper
Guest: Lisa Vanderpump
Original Release: October 31, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Alex Cooper sits down with Lisa Vanderpump, iconic TV personality, restaurateur, and queen of Bravo, for a candid, hilarious, and revealing conversation. The two dive into Lisa's evolution from Real Housewives of Beverly Hills star to executive producer of Vanderpump Rules, her personal philosophy on drama and friendship, behind-the-scenes stories, the infamous "Scandoval," and the realities of fame, loyalty, and sex (with plenty of Lisa's signature humor). Expect unfiltered insights, memorable quotes, and a sprinkle of British wit.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Lisa Vanderpump’s Current Life and Work Ethic

• Stretched Thin but Grateful: Lisa recounts her jam-packed schedule: filming, new restaurant openings (including Lake Tahoe), and her ongoing involvement with her dog foundation (02:33). Despite her “lavish” life, Lisa stresses she’s not idle, saying, "I've been frantically busy doing everything. I've been here, there, and everywhere." — Lisa Vanderpump [02:33]
• Downtime at Villa Rosa: Her home is her sanctuary, filled with flowers, music, and family energy: "There's something about my home that I feel is the essence of who I am." — Lisa [03:39]
• Low Maintenance, High Standards: Lisa surprises Alex by revealing she does much of her own glam and arrives solo, aside from her dog. “I do my own nails. I have my hair done every six weeks. I do my own makeup pretty much... I'm very low maintenance. But…when it comes to the vibe, I have high standards.” — Lisa [05:20]

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2. Early Days of Reality TV & Joining RHOBH

• Initial Hesitations: Lisa hesitated to join reality TV, referencing the Osbournes as her only real context (06:13). She’s always valued her privacy and was wary of public judgment.
• Audition Anecdotes: The Bravo audition process was "crazy"—from asking about her sex life (“Twice a year, you know, like birthdays and Christmas.”), to being urged by Jennifer Stallone to just "go for it." [06:23–08:18]
• Defining Humor: Lisa reflects, “I set myself up for people to go, she's a lunatic. And guess what? They were right.” — Lisa [08:24]

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3. Image, Public Perception & Andy Cohen

• On Being Misunderstood: "They didn't know how hard I've worked in my life. They didn't know that I fed the homeless every Monday for 12 years... it was easy to be obnoxious." — Lisa [08:59]
• Publicist-Free: She’s media-savvy but doesn’t employ a publicist, embracing public opinion: "What people talk about me is none of my business." — Lisa [10:50]
• Andy Cohen’s Favorite? The legend about her sizzle reel convincing Andy Cohen to greenlight RHOBH is apparently true—much to the chagrin of fellow Housewives: “I understand maybe I was a slightly different flavor… English and a ridiculous sense of humor.” — Lisa [12:41]
• Defending Andy: Lisa affirms her loyalty to Andy: “I really vociferously defended him because all those allegations were absolute. Big investigation.” — Lisa [13:02]

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4. Managing Fame, Drama, and Mental Health

• Burnout on Drama: Lisa explains her RHOBH exit: "I drew a line in the sand… I was really not in good shape [after my brother’s suicide]. I was not going back." — Lisa [17:19]
• On Cast Resentment: Lisa theorizes jealousy around her spin-off (Vanderpump Rules) and audience support: “I think we all know, but I would never say it… Maybe that stimulated certain things.” — Lisa [18:59]
• Advice for Handling Haters: "There are seven and a half billion people on this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then f*** them." — Lisa [21:36]

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5. Reality TV Realness – Secrets, Lies, and Confrontations

• Confronting Versus Ignoring: Lisa only confronts when lied to: "If I feel somebody's lying to me, that's it. That's my Achilles heel." — Lisa [21:15]
• Knowing About Affairs: Lisa reveals sometimes she’s known about castmates’ partners cheating but hasn’t told them: "Because sometimes people don't want to hear it... if you say too much, you lose both of them." — Lisa [24:33]
• Authenticity (or Lack Thereof): She discusses fake perfection on reality TV: “Anybody that says, ‘Oh, he’s perfect. My king, my this…’ — f*** off. It’s not like that.” — Lisa [25:11]

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6. Never Have I Ever: Bravo Edition — Memorable Game Segment

Fun, rapid-fire confessions and hypothetical scenarios [22:47–37:10]

• Drink Thrown in Face?: Never happened to Lisa—a feat for a bar owner. “No, I normally drink it, run through it. Something's coming for me, I think, oh, I need to drink this, I'll swallow it whole.” — Lisa [23:24]
• Known a Cheating Castmate?: Yes, but stayed quiet.
• Keeping Secrets: “Very good... But it’s not because I’m loyal, it’s 'cause I forget.” — Lisa [34:15]
• Swinging?: No, though her parents did back in the 1960s. “You’d have to wake me up and give me a cup of tea first.” — Lisa [35:45]

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7. Vanderpump Rules & Restaurant Realities

• Firing People: Lisa’s seen it all: “The shagging in the back... stealing, of course. Running restaurants, I've seen so many things.” — Lisa [43:19]
• Behind “S.U.R.”: "It was south in Spanish… We just put 'Sexy Unique Restaurant' up next to it." — Lisa [44:17]
• Lisa’s Sexy, Unique Quality: “I’m very tactile… I’m a perfectionist… as a lover... I could be a perfectionist.” — Lisa [44:45]

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8. Reflections on Vanderpump Rules, the Future, and Cast Dynamics

• Comparing Her Younger Self: Lisa identifies most with Stassi: “If we all look back… everybody makes so many mistakes.” — Lisa [45:48]
• On Cast ‘Incestuousness’: “They've all shacked each other. Please define any greater incest than I have shown you in that group, please.” — Lisa [47:03]
• Future of the Show: Lisa is open to new directions and even Alex’s pitch for a reboot, but stays loyal to her OG cast: “I have a loyalty to these people… but from your mouth to God's ears, that might be a thought.” — Lisa [55:27]

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9. Scandoval, Empathy, and the Burden of Public Scrutiny

• Media Frenzy: The Tom/Raquel affair (“Scandoval”) took on a life of its own. Lisa was stunned by the depth of coverage: “Sitting at the White House Correspondents Dinner, and they bring it up. Sitting in Adele’s concert, they bring it up. Seeing it on CNN's headline...” — Lisa [51:18]
• Empathy over Outrage: Lisa discusses balancing moral judgment and empathy, especially around public “cancellation”: “I wasn’t on Tom’s side, but I was on the side of empathy… sometimes the punishment didn’t befit the crime.” — Lisa [51:33]
• Friend Group Fallout: Lisa thinks the show needs to “breathe” but believes the audience’s attachment will keep it alive: “Let’s give it a minute. Let everybody live their life.” — Lisa [54:08]

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10. Personal Reflections, Projects, and Legacy

• Life on TV: Best part? "There are so many beautiful things… forever documented… My daughter's wedding… my grandbaby… wonderful moments." — Lisa [58:23]
• Worst part? “When people lie about you.”
• Material Life Independence: Fame didn’t change her life dramatically as she’d already “had 37 restaurants… a beautiful house..”
• Misconceptions: “That I’m high maintenance… I can’t even get a cup of tea in this place.” — Lisa [59:55]
• Working with Gordon Ramsay: “Gordon’s a lot to handle… for him it was very different… he’s usually the authoritarian… then he met me.” [57:47]
• Will Lisa Ever Reconcile with Housewives Cast? “If there’s a true apology… sure. But you’ll never get that from them.” — Lisa [41:13]
• Grudges: “If you could actually go, ‘Oh, I'm done,’ and if that's a grudge, yeah. Hold it. Hold it tightly.” — Lisa [42:28]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There are seven and a half or whatever it is, billion people on this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then f*** them.” — Lisa Vanderpump [21:36]
• “My husband calls me the sex object. Like, he asks for sex and I object.” — Lisa [10:25]
• “I do my own nails…I have my hair done every six weeks. I do my own makeup pretty much…I'm very low maintenance.” — Lisa [05:20]
• “If I feel somebody’s lying to me, that’s it. That’s my Achilles heel.” — Lisa [21:15]
• “You’d have to wake me up and give me a cup of tea first. I don’t have the energy for some swinging.” — Lisa [35:45]
• “[Reality TV] hasn't changed my life as much as others. I mean, the fame, but materially no… the incredible experiences, though, I can't minimize.” — Lisa [58:23]
• “Oh God, it’s so long ago. I don’t remember [my favorite sex position]. I think it’s on my back asleep.” — Lisa [60:32]
• (On Bravo loyalty/politics) “Oh, I think the Richard sisters are spinning right now.” — Lisa [11:52]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• Lisa’s schedule & home life: 02:33 – 04:48
• Reflection on joining RHOBH: 06:13 – 08:18
• On Andy Cohen’s impact: 11:30 – 13:37
• RHOBH drama & mental health: 17:19 – 19:36
• How to deal with haters: 21:28 – 22:44
• Never Have I Ever game: 22:47 – 37:10
• Scandoval, empathy, and group healing: 51:18 – 54:08
• New directions for VPR, loyalty to OGs: 54:44 – 55:27
• Lisa on working with Gordon Ramsay: 57:47 – 58:14
• Personal legacy and misconceptions: 58:23 – 59:55
• Sex, swinging, and signature humor: Throughout, especially 35:45 & 60:32

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Tone & Style

The conversation is fast, irreverent, and deeply honest. Lisa brings her trademark sharp wit, doling out life advice and juicy anecdotes with equal candor, while Alex occasionally plays the gleeful instigator, probing for humorous, sometimes risqué, details. The episode is full of laughter, mutual admiration, and unfiltered “girl talk,” making it quintessential "Call Her Daddy."

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This summary provides an engaging, detailed breakdown of the key moments, topics, and quotes from the episode—perfect for listeners who want the important insights and flavor without sitting through the entire show.

Transcript

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What is up Daddy Gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Lisa Vanderpump. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Are they ready for this? Probably not.

[Alex Cooper]

I don't know if they're ready for this. I feel like this is like the matchup that everyone wanted but maybe didn't know they needed. So people are gonna freak out that.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You'Re here okay, good.

[Alex Cooper]

I've had Ariana on before during the scandal and that's the only person. Oh wait, I've had Stassy on.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh yes, we hit it off.

[Alex Cooper]

But I was like, I was saving the best for last, obviously. Okay, so I'm excited. How are you doing today?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm good, but I've been frantically busy doing everything. I've been here, there. I've been in New York doing the upfronts Gordon Ramsay show, you know, food stars premieres today. I've been doing stuff Vanderpump Villa reunion. I've been in Vegas, I've been in Lake Tahoe, cuz I just opened my new restaurant there. I've been here, there and everywhere.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm exhausted just like thinking about that.

I.

Do you ever have any downtime?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I haven't had as much as I would like for sure. And I think that's important to build it into your schedule. But with, you know, the shows and we have the dog foundation, we just had world dog day. I have a lot of responsibilities. So I take that really seriously.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm thinking about your house. Villa Rosa.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. It's a sanctuary.

[Alex Cooper]

It is the most insane, extravagant place. Like when I see it on the shows, to people that haven't seen it, there are ponies, there are swans. Like it is over the top and amazing and everything you could dream of for a house. If you do have alone time in your house, what are you doing by yourself?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I love cooking.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

So I've made sure my kitchen is absolutely heavenly. Do you remember when I threw Kyle out the house and I kind of put the sledgehammer on there? I was like, it, we're done. This is time for a new era. Song, Kyle. So I kind of made a kitchen that really, you know, I have the view, the doors open up nicely, there's a fireplace when it's cold. I just really. So I'm very homey in terms of I love doing flowers. I mean, I'm obsessively always kind of, you know, doing flower arranging. There's something about my home that I feels the essence of who I am and it will always be. I mean, my children grew up saying, you know, they never heard an argument in our house.

[Alex Cooper]

Really?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. I mean, I might like punch the out of him behind the doors, but I. I just always believed in having that very kind of calming, you know, I mean, I was a little crazy. I mean, if we weren't dancing on the tables and things like that. Music plays all the time and I just really Just believe that calm in my life gives me the strength to deal with everything on the outside. Right.

[Alex Cooper]

It's like when you go home, you're in your sanctuary and then you leave and you deal with all the chaos.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And I would encourage people, no matter how hard you work, no matter if it's like one room, a beautiful place, you know, create a space where you really feel. Ah.

[Alex Cooper]

I think people are so fascinated by you because you have this lavish life, but you do work so hard. Like you said, you're not sitting at home.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

What would you consider yourself, high maintenance or low maintenance?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I mean, you see, I arrived with nobody today except my dog. I know I don't have an assistant yet. I should have one.

[Alex Cooper]

You don't have an assistant.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I do my own nails. I have my hair done every six weeks. I do my own makeup pretty much, but I travel with somebody if we have to look through the camera. So now I'm very low maintenance. But when it comes to do I need fresh flowers and music and the good wine and I like cooking good food, that I have high standards.

[Alex Cooper]

So you're high standards on the vibe, but for yourself. I can't believe. Like, I was expecting. Oh, God, no. I don't know if I was expecting a big posse with you. I at least thought you would have, like, maybe three people at least. I've had musicians coming here with 20.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

People know me, and I have one dog that travels.

[Alex Cooper]

Let's talk about Bravo.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Because obviously you're such an iconic part of Bravo, and with Bravo comes drama.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

When all of this was starting in your life, when you got on Housewives, like, did you have any hesitations of doing reality tv?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes, I did. Because, in fact, I'm having dinner tomorrow night with my friend Sharon Osbourne. And so I remember, really, the essence of reality television was yours. Borns. You know.

[Alex Cooper]

Yes.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Prior to that. And that seems such a crazy hot mess, I would think. Oh, my God. As I said, I lived in a kind of sanctuary. Even though we worked hard, we lived in a really beautiful house and I had a restaurant, Villa Blanca. And I was approached a couple of times and I thought, we don't really fight. I. I see the funny side of. Oh. I mean, I just. I'm not sure that I'm really right for this. And they said the form that I filled out when I went into the audition was, it's put a line through it. And, you know, I remember they said they have a tape where they say, oh, you know, tell us about your Sex life. And I was like, what? With my husband or with everybody else? And they were like, oh, okay. So I saw the funny side. But I wasn't gonna go for the interview because they had. They. They wanted you to be submitted in groups of people. You know, like, you were a group. So these women had put me in a group, and. And they're women that came to the restaurant, and they were. They weren't really friendly with me. And I thought, oh, my God, no, this is not going to work for me at all. So then it was Jennifer Stallone. Jennifer, if you're listening, who said to me, oh, come on, you've got to go for it. Like, go for it. And she made me sit down on their bed and. And watch the New York Housewives. And they were kind of yelling and screaming at each other, and I was like, it's not me at all. I should go for it. Go for it. So I went in, and I had no kind of preconception of what was about to transpire. And they asked me this. I was like, oh, come on. Are you serious? You want. Do they really think I would sit down and tell them about my sex life when I don't even know? And what planet are they on? Because if you remember, right, in the first episode, they said, lisa, you know something about your sex life? I said, oh, yeah, Twice a year, you know, like birthdays at Christmas. That's not my birthday. You know, it's another day off. And they took it seriously. So suddenly I was on the news talking about having sex twice a year. And I was like, oh, now I better behave. Because, you know, everything they said was being taken literally.

[Alex Cooper]

But you're so entertaining. And even just that in itself, like, I think people love that. And you're so good at it.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I was going to the world through my eyes, you know, and it was just if I. I didn't care if everybody judged me. I mean, I. I set myself up for people to hate me because I was like, you know, I love pink. I had a little dog that I carried around that had, you know, terrible kind of skin problems. He was always compromised, cheeky, you know, had alopecia and stuff. I used to feel feed him on a silver platter, you know, I always took the piss out of my husband, you know, so it was just like, I set myself up for people to go, she's a lunatic. And guess what? They were right.

[Alex Cooper]

You think people thought you were a lunatic?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I think, you know, I set it, you know, I was this wealthy woman. They didn't know how hard I've worked in my life. They didn't know that I fed the homeless every Monday for 12 years. They didn't know I had, you know, charities, you know, that I would support. I'd worked hard my whole life with Ken. I'd be married forever in a day. And, you know, I was living in this big house. I love pink. I had a little dog. I drove around a off car. You know what I mean? So, yes, I mean, it was easy to be obnoxious.

[Alex Cooper]

I think there's something about also television that like, whether it's real or not, like you being yourself or playing it up for the camera, like it's great tv. It's.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

That's what I want to see, right? This city.

[Alex Cooper]

When I see Paris Hilton and everything she is going on, I'm like, I'm entertained.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm entertained.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And so, like, I don't think anyone can look at that and hate it. Like, they're maybe their jaws are dropping when they see you feeding your dog on a silver platter and they're like, I can't even like, afford kibble for my fricking dog. Yeah, but it's like, it's aspirational and it's funny. Wait, do you actually only have sex two times a year?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, not anymore. I mean, I used to have at least twice a year. No, no, it was a joke. He has to beg. You know, put his knee pads on and crawl to me. Beg.

[Alex Cooper]

I remember there was a quote from.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

A very strong physical connection with my husband. I met him, I was married within three months. That's not somebody that has sex twice a year. Seal the deal.

[Alex Cooper]

You have such iconic lines. I remember one of your lines was like, I like, my husband calls me the sex object. Like he asked for sex and I object. I know.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, you know, people, I thought if they're going to take it seriously, then they don't understand me.

[Alex Cooper]

Totally. You know, is it true? I remember reading somewhere, probably not. No.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Let's start with that.

[Alex Cooper]

Absolutely not.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, by the way, I also don't have a publicist. Just.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Because I don't give a. What people talk about me is none of my business. I don't have a publicist. I mean, I have a lot of publicity because especially with three shows on the air.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You know, I've done. Oh, my God. I don't know what I've done press wise, but I don't try to control it. It is what it is.

[Alex Cooper]

It is. And also, like, I Feel like you're seasoned enough where, like, you're not gonna say something that's gonna get you canceled. And, like, also, you can't really get canceled, like, unless you do something so awful that you go to jail. I guess that's considered canceled.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes, I guess. Which isn't. No, no.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. You're not going to go. Okay, I'm curious. This was. The rumor was, like, Andy Cohen was, like, not completely sold with Bravo that they were going to do Beverly Hills.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, the housewives love it when you say this. Go ahead, say it. Say it.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, they're all gonna come.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Saw my tape. That. That they were his words. And then it was in the Huffington Post, I think that he said it.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, tell people the story, though.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I can't.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, so it's two self.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

They're his words.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, so Andy Cohen said that he wasn't sold if they wanted to do the Beverly Hills franchise.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

God, I can see the Richard sister spinning right now.

[Alex Cooper]

And then he saw your tape and was like, oh, I immediately had a vision. I immediately know we had to make it. And it's like, I could see that happening, but I'm assuming that pisses the other women off.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, I think. Yeah. And then I got VanDerPump rules the second season, but that was, you know, that wasn't so much about someone's calling you.

[Alex Cooper]

Should we answer?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes, but. Oh, it's Kyle saying. I just heard that. Oh, I can't imagine.

[Alex Cooper]

Kyle Richards.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, it's my daughter. But don't worry.

[Alex Cooper]

Don't worry.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, so that's my grandson.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, so sweet.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Every minute of every minute.

[Alex Cooper]

Hi, sweetie. I'm in the middle of an interview. VIVAC soon. So you don't know if it's true. Those are Andy's words, but I do.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, no, he has said it. It is true. But. And I understand maybe I was a slightly different flavor also being English and being, like, having a ridiculous sense of. Sense of humor. And even now, I mean, I did his pot. I did his Watch what Happens Live the other night, and he was like, oh, my God. I was like, oh, you love it. Andy, stop it. You know?

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think you're his favorite housewife?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I. Well, I mean, I think there's a few people that aren't his favorite housewives now after what he's been through. And I really vociferously defended him because all those allegations were absolute. They did. Big investigation. No, I think he's got a love for. There's a few of us, but I think he definitely has connected with me on, on many levels and socialized with me. That's why it's like if, if anybody knew what I was up to, Lisa Vanderbilt was. I was like, oh my God, don't take me down that road. It's true. But it's true. I. I knew that he was innocent of all this.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And also there's something very reassuring for women about a gold star gay a man. There's not attracted woman that you can play with. You know, you can really. I play with Andy. I'd say very, very, you know, like kind of strong sexual innuendos, but, you know, it's not going anywhere. Right, Right.

[Alex Cooper]

It's a joke.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

It's a straight man. You'd have to be careful, you know, Very careful. But Andy K as a straight man is never going to happen.

[Alex Cooper]

No, it's definitely not going to happen.

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When you're at the center of drama, because that is what comes with being on these shows. How does it impact you?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I think I. You know when people say, oh, you didn't turn up for the reunion when you left? And I was like, no, I drew a line in the sand, thought, that's it. I am not going, and I'm not gonna finish this show. I said at the beginning of season, you know, I. Being very honest about this. I was very involved with. With the Trevor project and done PSAs for them. My only sibling commit suicide. I was really, like, not in good shape. I mean, if I. I've talked about this. If I opened the fridge, you know, and there wasn't milk in there, I'd start to cry. It was. I was, like on that edge all the time. And for the first time in my life, I took some medications, some antidepressants just to try and get over that. And I. I was really, Yeah, I was not in good shape. And I said, okay, I'll do Vanderpump Rules, which I started filming just, I think three or four days after my brother's funeral. So I started that and I thought, let's just not talk about it, you know. But I also don't really have that personal connection on Van and Pump Rules as far as my personal life. We've always seen me mentoring them and supporting them. So we kind of, you know, got through that. And then they were like, come back to Housewives. I said, I, I just can't do it anymore. And I think about four, four or five out of the nine years that come for me, Me, you know, where they all gang up and they had this and that. And I'd been at those reunions where I'd sat there, you know, with them all kind of coming at me like, that wasn't funny when you said that, or you did this or you did that. And I was just like, I'm gonna leave right now when I threw Kyle out the house, and I'm never going back.

[Alex Cooper]

When you look back, like, why do you think so many of the women came for you?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I don't know. I suppose they might have thought I was favored in some way. I don't know. I really don't know. I mean, I, I think we all know, but I would never say it. I mean, I had Vanderpump Rules given to me. My own show as executive producer with the same company and the same network.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Like in the second season of Housewives. So that was a huge privilege. And then that's gone on for 12 years. So maybe suddenly I was sitting on the other side side as executive producer with maybe that, you know, stimulated certain things. I don't know. But they, they sure certainly didn't make my life easy on that show.

[Alex Cooper]

I was gonna say, I think, like, naturally, anyone that's a bystander and, like, is unbiased can just be like, oh, there's like a lot of jealousy. Like the fact that you were able to make something so much bigger out of what you were doing. It's amazing.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I, I, I just think whenever anybody says, says that about themselves, like, oh, they're jealous of me. It just sounds pathetic, of course, self aggrandizing. But I just think I was afforded a lot of kind of. And also, the audience would nearly always support me.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

So even when they came against me, they never had anything. So the audience would always kind of rally in my defense. And, you know, I would do these appearances with rose and wine and dog appearances and shelter things. In fact, I'm doing one this afternoon, a shelter thing, and people connected to me you know, if it was about my love of dogs, our furry friends, and if it was about marriage, you know, having a long marriage, if it was about suicide prevention, if it was about LGBT issues, it was about my son who are adopted from foster together. We never really talked about, but, you know, all these issues, people would always connect with me emotionally and.

[Alex Cooper]

You're funny.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, you're pretty. I mean, I never think I'm funny. I just think I'm telling my side of the story.

[Alex Cooper]

You're just talking and then it goes, I'm just talking.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I have a narrative that runs through my head all the time. Sometimes I actually think I better not say that. But very rarely, normally I just say it.

[Alex Cooper]

Lisa, when do you decide, like, when it's time to confront someone for drama versus when you're just like, it's not worth my time. I'm not going to address it. It.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, if they're just being ridiculous, maybe let them have their moment. You know, let everybody else tell them. But if I feel somebody's lying to me, that's it. If I feel that, you know, yeah, then I'm gonna call them out. That's my Achilles heel.

[Alex Cooper]

Can you give any of the girls listening advice? Like, when someone just, like, doesn't like you and has it out for you, like, give us advice like, how do we handle that?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I think you should look at statistics in the world. As a woman that's grown up, you know, amongst many, many people, I've not been sit office every day. I've been like, around the restaurant business. There's seven and a half or whatever it is, billion of people in this planet. If somebody doesn't like you, then them. You know what I mean? I mean, I do think also I do think you should look at things and think, okay, why are they behaving like this Often? It's jealousy if you couldn't think, okay, they don't have a good reason, really. Look at yourself objectively. You know, a friend of mine was going through this relationship and kind of split up their significant other. And I. I can see this person's very strong person. I kept saying, maybe you should look at how you know what your part is in the relationship. Sometimes I think, you know, try and have a good look at yourself and your own actions and. And grow from that. But somebody doesn't like you, they don't have to. Right. As well. You know, sometimes you feel this kind of visceral reaction that I don't really like that person. Right.

[Alex Cooper]

Then, you know, piss off.

Bye.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Exactly. There's somebody else around the corner.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, we're gonna play a game.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Never have I ever. Bravo Edition. If you've ever been in one of these scenarios, tell the story.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Never have I ever gotten a drink thrown in my face.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I've been there when one. Oh, no, I wasn't there. That was Brandy Glanville chucking one in Eileen's face. No, I haven't had a drink thrown in my face.

[Alex Cooper]

That's amazing. Which.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Owning a bar, that's pretty cool, right? Have you had one.

[Alex Cooper]

Have you had one thrown in your face? I have never had one thrown in my face. Have you ever? I think it's a. Okay. It's common on Bravo. I feel like.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. Darcy's done it a few times.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. Everyone's chucking people's face.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. I'm like, no, I normally drink it, run through it. Something's coming for me. I think, oh, I need to drink this. I'll swallow it whole.

[Alex Cooper]

You're like, oh, gotta get drunk. What, are they coming out before?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Exactly.

[Alex Cooper]

What is the fastest way to piss you off?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Lying to me. I don't like late either. Really. I mean, I know I was 10 minutes late here because I was, like, juggling with things. I've got to meet at 11:30. And I was like, yeah, you've got to delay it. But I don't like people. I think it's disrespectful when you're late because I think you're basically telling somebody that, you know, your time is worth much more than theirs. I don't like that. Really.

[Alex Cooper]

I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Okay. Never have I ever known a castmate's partner was cheating.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes, you have. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

In what circumstance?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, there was somebody that's recently had this kind of complicated scenario. Yeah. In. In one of the shows. I'm not telling you. And I kind of knew. Yeah, I've known. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And in that situation, did you say something to the person or you just let it be?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I didn't say.

[Alex Cooper]

Why didn't you say anything?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Because sometimes people don't want to hear it. You know what I find surprising?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Is that they're on a reality show. It's like. And they're living their lives, and I. Of course, all marriages have problems. You know, anybody that says, oh, he's perfect. My love, my king, my This. I mean, like, off. It's like your husband. Get real. It's like sometimes you want to strangle them. Sometimes, like. Yeah. There's parts of it you Know, like, I'm like, if you snore one more time, I'm gonna put the pillow over your head. You know what I mean? Like, you've got a choice. Here is this spare room pillow.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Was divorced, but it's like, then suddenly they get divorced. But they've been saying, oh, love being on My King this or my that. Life's not like that. You've got two imperfect people.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Living together. That it's not, you know, and that's. And then on the reality show Suddenly. How many times have you seen this? Especially on that show that I used to be on. How many times everything's just going across just fine. And then, oh, we're getting a divorce. Oh, okay. You know? Or, oh, we've just separated. Oh, we've separated. When it's been going on for months and years.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. And it's not like you're not being authentic on camera, because obviously. I also do agree with you, though, when people are like, my honey bunny, we're perfect.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

What the Is wrong really going on? Like, I don't believe this person. Honey bunny, get the down here.

[Alex Cooper]

The camera. So healthy. We have so much sex. We're so happy.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Let's hear the truth. Right. You know, okay. We couldn't have. We've been married a long time, and we have, you know, a lot of good moments, and he's got sense of hum. And he indulges me in so many things. Like, you know, luckily, he's got the same passions I have. The fact we've got seven dogs, I mean, most men would be like, you know, he'd never say, like. Like, you know, when you see these guys, they go, oh, does this dog shed? It's a dog. Yes. Ken would never say anything like that. You know, like.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. I'm actually curious when you said you didn't tell the person because they don't.

Want to hear it.

I feel like a lot of times there's also where you're like.

Because they know.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Sometimes I think.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Also, they're not. I often think if you say too much, unless then I think that you lose both of them. You know what I mean? Right.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, if you get involved, it's not your place.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Especially if they get bit.

[Alex Cooper]

That's when it gets so awkward. No, but you're right, Lisa. It's like if you told this woman, this one, sometimes they don't want to believe it, so then it comes back on you, and then they both hate you. Or if they do break up, and get back together. Then they're like, it's too awkward.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Exactly.

[Alex Cooper]

We can't see you ever.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, exactly. This didn't happen, so you gotta go away.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. Okay. Can I. It's gotta either be Kyle or Dorit.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, you're not guessing or doing or saying anything because that is not a headline I'm living with. So. No, it's not either of them. It could be, but it's not.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, fair. Okay, fair. Okay, fair. How did it make you feel when people were convinced that you did know about Tom and Raquel's, like, affair for so long?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, I didn't really even know that. Did they think that I knew?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, there was, like, a conspiracy during all of it.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, God. No, no, no, no no, no. I didn't know. I did say. Well, hold on a second. You know, in the kitchen that time, I was like, Ms. Malibu's in the jacuzzi. And I said, that's not. You know, that's not okay. I mean. And Ariana was vociferous in saying, no, no, no, she's my friend. I'm fine with that. And I said, well, I wouldn't be fine with that if I was away on the other side of town and Ms. Malibu was in. In the jacuzzi with. With whoever she is, whether it's Raquel or any, you know, beauty queen, was in the, you know, jacuzzi with my husband when I was away. No, that's not okay.

[Alex Cooper]

Is this what we call Raquel now? Ms. Malibu?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I do. I mean, I'm just saying. Or miss, you know, whoever. Texas, or any gorgeous creature. And I'm on the other side of the country and she's sitting in the jacuzzi. Whether she's got mal intent or not, My husband would definitely be thinking, oh, I wonder how long my wife's staying away for. You know what I mean? It's like. Yeah, no. So if I'd known, I wouldn't have been saying that.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, you know, you're right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

So I. I wouldn't have condoned that.

[Alex Cooper]

If my husband was in a hot tub with a woman.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. When you're away.

[Alex Cooper]

Dead.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, Death. Yeah, exactly.

[Alex Cooper]

Get out by.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Penis. Yeah, exactly. Yes, exactly. Oops.

[Alex Cooper]

Fling it out of the highway.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Exactly. Right. So.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, okay.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And that was. And I was calling it. I wouldn't have been calling it if I'd. If I'd known. I was saying. Hold on a second. You lied. She just came in looking like a bag of. Remember? For the food tasting? Yeah, I said, what Are you doing? You look like a wreck. You're late. What's going on? And they were like, oh, no, we're good friends. And. And, you know, Ariana was saying. Saying, oh, we're good friends. Should never do that. Well, you know. Yeah. So.

[Alex Cooper]

But that's also when you feel a gut feeling.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

It's all.

It's usually right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. My job on that show is to sort this hot mess out. So that is something. If I had known, I would have said, hey, guys, you know, that is.

[Alex Cooper]

Let's get it together.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. But she was so vocal about defending Raquel, but I think that's what took it to a whole different level. And then Raquel asking her about herself sex life while she was banging her husband or boyfriend.

[Alex Cooper]

That was one of.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

That was weirdest. That felt sociopathic to me. That felt like, I don't give a. About anybody's thoughts or feelings. I. It doesn't permeate, you know?

[Alex Cooper]

Right. If anything, I'm, like, interested to know what, like, your experience is, because I'm having it at the same time.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Does he. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, can you imagine if a woman came up to you and asked you that question? I would immediately be like, what is wrong with you?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

That. Yeah, that was sedition.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

That's it. Yeah. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

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Never have I ever brought the receipts to prove a point in an argument. Like, showed the text message, showed the emails.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, I think I've done that. But I don't know, probably on Housewives or. Yeah, yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, I'm not.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I don't really have a paper trail. It kind of like things go by. I remember, you know, I remember somebody like Lisa Rinner. I said, oh, God, I hardly ever speak to you on the verge. I've got receipts, 10 phone calls, and I'm like, well. Well, that's all. You're like 10 years. If I liked you, I'd have called you 10 times this morning. Yeah, exactly. So I don't know. Such nonsense.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you good at keeping secrets for people?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Very good. Yeah. Very good.

[Alex Cooper]

You're like a vault. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, that's good.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

But it's not because I'm loyal. It's cuz I forget I'm obsessed with you.

[Alex Cooper]

Stop. They tell you, like, this deep, dark secret a couple months later, so.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, hold on a second. Was it you that sha. Oh, yes. Maybe.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Never have I ever participated in swinging.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No. Oh, but my parents have. No. Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

Wait, how did you know?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, it was the sixties. Oh, my God. My father's still alive. This doesn't kill him. This doesn't go to England, does it?

[Alex Cooper]

This is what ends it all. Stop. How did you know your parents were swinging?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I remember them talking about the 60s. You know, they were newly married and everybody was kind of doing that a bit. You know, they didn't give me details. I think they gave details to my nephew, that one of their grandsons. And I was like, oh, I really don't want to even think about that. When I saw, you know, John Hamm, and I didn't. Yeah, and I heard. I didn't. I didn't know about his nether regions as well. Somebody told me that afterwards I was saying John Ham. And they went, well, you know, about John.

[Alex Cooper]

We. I don't know about John Hamilton. Oh, does he have a big penis?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, no, but they would talk about it. There's many. I mean, it should have its own Instagram. Apparently. I said that. But I mean, there were these pictures of saying, oh, really? Yeah. No, but it was covered. It was decent. But it was.

[Alex Cooper]

But it was big.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

But yeah, but we were laughing. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, and you're like, oh, Ken, should we swing to the left over here with John o'? Hare?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You'd have to wake me up and give me a cup of tea first. I don't know. I don't have the energy for some swinging.

[Alex Cooper]

Has anyone ever approached you to swing?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I think I might have had hints. Oh, you know, but it's kind of insulting. I would like people to approach me on a daily basis. If you're listening to this, you want to swing, please ask me. No, it's like, I think I was so obsessively. I'm a little jealous as well, I think. Obsessively in love with my husband. Getting married so quick and being. Being so young.

[Alex Cooper]

You couldn't see him with another woman?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I don't really want to.

[Alex Cooper]

You'd, like, be with the.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I could have somebody. I don't think that would be quite what he was envisaging. Like, oh, see that really handsome guy over there? Should we swing with him? That's probably not what he would be up for.

[Alex Cooper]

Or if you're super jealous, you would, like, be with the other woman's, like, husband and you'd be, like, hanging up my shoulder.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Exactly. I'll be like, oh, my God. I'll be like, what? What's he doing? I'd be way more interested in what he was doing than what I was doing.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm obsessed.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I haven't the answer. Never have I ever.

[Alex Cooper]

Never have ever.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm probably at this stage not going to. That's kind of sad.

[Alex Cooper]

It's okay. But, you know.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, mind you, I put it out there now. Maybe I'll get lots of opportunities.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, I bet there's going to be so many people now. So many people.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, I'll pass. I'd rather have a cup of tea.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

Okay.

Never have I ever married as long.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

As I have, like, how many? Let's think so, 42 years. So that's going to be like 14,000 days, roughly. Do you think there's anything that I haven't done that I need to do? Probably not. I mean, there's things I haven't done, but there are things I haven't done that I haven't wanted to do.

[Alex Cooper]

Have you ever, like, are you.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

No. I'm like, do you want me to ask you a couple sexual questions?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, not really.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Never have I ever shared a secret with a cast mate. And then they went and shared it on camera.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Gosh, I don't remember that. I'm sure it's happened. No, but I do remember now. I haven't watched Beverly Hills. I don't care what anybody says. I haven't watched it. I've seen sometimes snippets on Twitter where they'll have like a little screen thing and you click on it. I think, oh, I wonder what's going on. It was Erica, Jane and Kyle and she said something like Eric Jane said, oh, you said, I'm glad that everybody's gonna see how mean Cassie is or what she's like, you know. And Kyle turned around and said, yeah, but that was supposed to be between us.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. And I thought, oh, my God. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

No, but that feels like a theme in reality tv.

Where?

Wasn't it like Lala and Katie in the reunion? It was like Lala was upset with Katie because she's like. You literally said that you were, like, basically hating on Ariana to me off camera. And then you're acting all nice on camera.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I don't like that. I think it's. Just keep it straight. Right. So as I say, I. My mind's so full of other things, I find that it's much easier just to play the one, you know, play it as it is.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Because I can't remember what's on camera, what's off camera, what I did yesterday, what I did today. And it's just like when people say, oh, you're lying. My memory's not good enough tonight. I have to speak from experience. You know what I mean? Yeah. I remember things concisely, you know? Absolutely. When I experience, if I'm making it up, I don't remember what I made up. I, I.

[Alex Cooper]

That's a good point.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. No, no.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think, though, now people with social media are getting, like, too afraid to act certain ways in front of camera because of what, like, the public and the comments are gonna say?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I think the most popular reality stars are people that are truly authentic and don't give a. I mean, I think one of the best reality stars I've ever worked with is James Kennedy, and he's got it wrong on so many levels. So good. And he's seen so much growth, so entertaining.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think that I still have the infamous scene back in the day when he was talking to Lala and they're like, yelling about pasta and everyone was like, this has to be about drugs. This has to be cocaine. Do you think it's actually about pasta?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I think it's not about that.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, it's not, it's not about the pasta. That was one of the funniest scenes, I think.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, that is one. It was kind of iconic that it was on T shirts after. I don't know, really. I mean, they've both been pretty open because.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And I think I love the duo together. I can't imagine those two when they say they've had sex a couple of times, it's like, that just doesn't seem to me. How do they ever get there, those two? I. It doesn't mean.

[Alex Cooper]

It doesn't make sense to me either. I feel like she's such a woman either. You can't text.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm not, I'm looking because my meeting's at 11:30.

[Alex Cooper]

It's 10:50.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

You have time.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

10:51.

[Alex Cooper]

I know. Oh, my God. I actually can't picture Lala and him having sex either, because I feel like.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

The cup of tea that they offered me when I first came in was so nice. Said, no, were we supposed to get you tea?

[Alex Cooper]

Oh.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

They said, would you like anything? I said, oh, cup of tea, be great. Never happened.

[Alex Cooper]

Can someone text Charlie for a cup of tea?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

How much tea do you drink during the day?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

A lot. Probably too much, really. Yeah. But more tea than alcohol, which is kind of unique.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you ever spike your tea a little bit?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

What, with alcohol?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, that was quite. Is that a good idea? No, I don't think. I don't drink in the day. Very rarely. You never see me drink.

[Alex Cooper]

I think you can spike your tea a couple times and see where it takes you. Lisa.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, yeah, I got here without it, really. I probably don't need it.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think you'll ever be friends with any of the women again from Housewives?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Let me think about that for a moment. No. No. Well, I think if there's a true apology and actually somebody says, you know what? I really regret it and I'm really sorry I said that, and I know I tried to humiliate you or whatever, then, yes, there would always be room. But you'll never get that from them.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you someone that holds grudges?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, I do. Off, I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna hold a crush. I mean, I won't hold a grudge till it's like. If it's detrimental, I love you. To me, if it's like, you know, if it's eating away at you and you're angry about it, then. Then I think you've got to sort it out. But if holding a grudge is mean, I'm done. And I don't want to because I know who you are. I see who you are. You don't have the best intention for me. Now, that's a grudge. But if it's something that's eating away at you that you have that feeling, that's not healthy, I'd rather get rid of that. Like, I haven't really been angry about, you know, housewives. I mean, I get asked about it a lot. I really very rarely ever bring it up myself. But if it was eating away at me or something like that, then I think, okay, I. I need to sort this out. So I would always say that as advice. If it's eating away, you. You need to deal with it. But if you could actually go, oh, I'm done. And if that's a grudge, yeah, hold it. Hold it tightly.

[Alex Cooper]

I completely agree because I feel like, a grudge. For me, I'm like, I want to normalize having grudges more, but if you know what someone is, even if they apologize to me, sure, clear the air. But I still don't like you.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Exactly. That's okay. Because if I thought you were a good person and you weren't, I got it wrong before, and now you've shown me the old expression, you know, fool me once for me twice price, but. Or, shame on. Shame on you. Shame on me. You know, that's so. No, that. Now, that's a grudge. Yeah. I'm all about that.

[Alex Cooper]

We're all about, like.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm not gonna be. Yeah, I'm not gonna be stupid. You know, it's just like, if somebody screws you financially in business, you're not going to lend them money again. How about that?

[Alex Cooper]

Period, Right? Okay, let's talk about Vanderpump rules.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Your mistakes, my girl.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. The original cast were employed at your restaurant.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

And you were their boss.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

What is the most insane thing you've had to fire someone for?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, all kinds of things over the years. Running restaurants. I mean, of course, the shagging in the back and everything. I mean, God. I mean, that's stealing and stealing. Of course, not on Vanderpump rules. I mean, in the restaurant business, I've seen so many things just even with people coming in. I mean, imagine you have your house open, and you have made maybe a thousand people come through that door every night. At some point, you're gonna go, what the.

[Alex Cooper]

How often are they having sex?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Or not just that, but where's my. Where's the big mirror in my bathroom? How did they get it out there during lunch? You know, stupid. You know, like, you think, oh, my God. Yeah. There's been a lot of creative ways of stealing that we've caught. You know, that you think, you know, people bring their own liquor and things like that. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

I mean, stealing a mirror and wine.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. Yeah, many.

[Alex Cooper]

That's insane.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, many different things.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. I didn't realize that sir stands for sexy Unique Restaurant.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

It doesn't start. We just put that up next to it. But it was south in Spanish, because, remember, I bought into that restaurant when it was about a tenth of the size to get my visa. Because I was in the restaurant business, we wanted to stay here, so we thought. Thank God. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. What is your most sexy and unique quality, Lisa?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm very tactile. I mean, you saw the way I make up my dog. Imagine that. Like, you know, like, I am, like, very. Yeah, Listen, you see the way I do flowers. You see the way I run a business. You see the way I decorate. You see where I'm with my dog. You see the way I am? I'm like, A perfect perfectionist. So, of course, as a lover. And this isn't. To those people that want to swing with me, because you'd. I'd really be a big disappointment. But I'm talking about in the past. If there are a couple of people that approach me to swing, forget it. I'm too lazy for that now. But I'm a perfectionist, so I think even making love, I could be a perfectionist.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, Lisa.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Right?

[Alex Cooper]

That was a good answer.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

That's sexy, isn't it? If you're thinking, oh, my God, who is this? Yeah, that's.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm just trying to picture it. I'm like, oh, my God, it's so sexual. Okay, that's a good answer. Okay. If you had to pick which Vanderpump Rules cast member, were you most, like, in your 20s? Any cast member from all seasons?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I think I'm quite a lot like Stasi in a way. I'm not chucking people. Chucking drinks in people's faces, but I was always kind of out for. Stacy sees the funny side. Stacy, you know, it was such a. A disappointment to me when she was let go, but it was a sign of the times. Everybody was, you know, reacting to what was going on in the world, and I. I agreed on. I understood that. But I think that if we all look back on what we did when we were younger, you know, like, everybody makes so many mistakes.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I think that's the whole point of growth, you know? And as I say in this new show, Gordon Ramsay show, seeing people, how they developed. Oh, my God. God. How I saw the growth in the show of people, like, they came in like this, and they left like this. So that's, to me, one of the most exciting things. And. And I think stars is taking it and run with it, which I. I think was great.

[Alex Cooper]

I agree. I think she had, like, one of the most iconic, like, character arcs in that show of just, like, how she started with Jackson.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I don't give a. And I'm gonna say exactly what I want to say.

[Alex Cooper]

That makes for the best tv. Like you said, James Kennedy. Yeah.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No apologies. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

That group over the years has been, like, kind of, like a little incestuous. Like, everyone's kind of getting.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

They've all shacked each other. Oh, my God. A little. That's a lot. But according to you, please define any greater incest than I have shown you in that group, please.

[Alex Cooper]

I was trying to be, like, okay, just, like, calm about it.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Try and be anything. Just sell it out.

[Alex Cooper]

What is your stance on like that concept of like homie hopping of like everyone kind of like getting with each other's friends and getting with each other's boyfriends and girlfriends.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I mean, there's only a few dynamics left to like. It's all got done right.

[Alex Cooper]

Who would we need to hook up? La Line Schwartz. Do you think it would ever happen?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I wouldn't mind that. Actually. I wouldn't mind that.

[Alex Cooper]

You wouldn't?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I mean, Schwartz is very kind.

[Alex Cooper]

He's kind, but like, he can't stand up for it.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I know.

[Alex Cooper]

And Laa needs someone to be like, yeah, I agree with you. I back you. He can't even like back his himself.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah, but maybe you could just carry the baby around and say yes and cuddle and stuff. I've always found him adorable. I know. He got it totally wrong.

[Alex Cooper]

I love Foreign.

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[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I think it was just because the juxtaposition of her living with him and then saying, no, I. I won't have that conversation with him, that was what was frustrating. I think maybe if she'd drawn a line in the sand, said, that's it. I don't want to see him ever again. He'll be forced to falls off the side of a cliff. But, you know, it was. It was all very, you know, I. I wasn't on Tom's side at all, but I was on the side of empathy. And when the whole world was against him. I've talked about this many times sitting at the White House correspondence dinner, and they bring it up. Sitting in Adele's concert, they bring it up. Seeing it on CNN's headline, it was kind of the. The punishment didn't befit the crime. And I mean, of course, I don't condone what he did in any shape or form, but I think when the whole world is against you, sometimes it's a very dangerous thing. For, as I saw with my brother and you feel there's no way out at that time and the over here, you know, so. And when he sat and told me I wouldn't use all of it. But he sat and told me and I said, as an executive producer, guys, you have to use this, you have to be honest and show him, you know, in, in this moment of just like the suicide ideation scared me. Now, whether some people say, you know, oh, he's acting, or oh, it's not true, it's not authentic. Authentic, I don't give a. I have experienced suicide firsthand with my brother and for me, I'd rather not take that chance. So I felt that he, he did so many great things as well for people over the years. I mean, you know, I was talking to Israel. Do you remember Israel, who actually now works for me? He was telling me how when he sleep on the floor, Sanibel used to pay his rent so he wouldn't, you know. So Sandoval has a lot of good, good component.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you. He has a girlfriend now, right?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

How can. Do you think he's gonna cheat on her?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. I don't know. Maybe this is the one. No, maybe this is the one. I don't think that Sandoval, from my knowledge, is that sexually motivated. Because. Because I think he said that. I, I just don't think he's that kind of guy. You know, where there's a lot of guy that's jag anything, right? Like, I don't think he's like that, but I think this girl apparently is gorgeous.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, no.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I thought the tea was coming.

[Alex Cooper]

Is it coming?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

So is Chris.

[Alex Cooper]

They're working on. I think they probably didn't know, like, if we. They were allowed to interrupt because sometimes I'm like, lock the door, don't come in.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, really?

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, yeah. I'm like, get out of my studio.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Okay, let's talk about you being what kind of. I'll see you.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm like, I'm locking myself in this room. Don't bother me because I don't want to interrupt. What if you were saying something so brilliant and the door.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Probably not going to happen.

[Alex Cooper]

I feel like the. It kind of ended this season and it was like, the friend group is a disaster.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

We've been in that. That place before, but do you think.

[Alex Cooper]

It'S going to continue? Like.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, I think the thing is with this show is I think that people feel very attached to it because they've grown up with it and there's been, at some point somebody will identify with one of them in the group and I think that it will be hard for people really to let it go. So do I think it would be back? Yes. Do I think it needs to breathe. Yes. Am I totally busy and so, you know, opening another restaurant. Yes. So I think let's just give it a minute. Let everybody live their life.

[Alex Cooper]

I have a pitch for you.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Go on them. I say no, but because. Yeah, I think I'm so busy, but.

[Alex Cooper]

I think that the next season of Vanderpump.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Should be you getting everyone in a room.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

And firing all swinging.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, no.

[Alex Cooper]

Swinging. You're like, lala, get over here. Katie, get over here. And you fire all of them.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And you push them to a different show that's more like grown up or whatever. And you bring a whole new cast in and you start fresh. And everyone works at SIR and it's all young talent, talent. And these kids, like, have no Instagram following yet. And you start fresh. Like, I would die to watch kids back in at SIR like, trying to make it in the acting or modeling agency and, like, get back at it.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And I have many of them. But I do have three shows on the air.

[Alex Cooper]

I know, I know. But I live in la, so I'm, like, addicted to the la. But I know, I know.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You know what? From your mouth to God's ears. That might be a thought.

[Alex Cooper]

Can you imagine the season? Here's your tea. What is this?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, my God.

[Alex Cooper]

We don't have any.

Do you want black tea with milk, green tea or herbal tea?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Black tea with milk. I like your dungarees. I said that when I came in. I like your dungarees.

[Alex Cooper]

Dungarees?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. What do you. Oh, what do you call overalls?

[Alex Cooper]

Overalls?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, they're dungarees. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Which one? Black tea and milk.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Try it.

[Alex Cooper]

Try them all.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I'm worried about it.

[Alex Cooper]

I'm worried about it, too.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You know, I never understand. What? Why people leave the tea bag in it. What do they say? Expect us to chew on it.

[Alex Cooper]

My assistant's going to start crying.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Chew on it.

[Alex Cooper]

She's literally like, okay, let's try it. Black tea and milk. Yeah, you can just throw it on the side table. It doesn't matter.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, it's. Yeah. I mean, I like the color of the cup. It's pink.

[Alex Cooper]

It's cute.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yeah. But the te's a disaster.

[Alex Cooper]

Awful. Oh, it's. You wanted it black.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, I wanted it, like, lighter, like the color of the wood.

[Alex Cooper]

It's a disaster.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

But I'll say it's really nice. Oh, I love this tea. Said no one ever.

[Alex Cooper]

No. My assistant's crying in the corner now.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

It's better now. I loved her dungarees.

[Alex Cooper]

I told her we say overalls in with overalls. Overall.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I love her overalls.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, my God.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You like it?

[Alex Cooper]

Wait.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Say. Shall I speak with American accent all the time?

[Alex Cooper]

Yes.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

You like that?

[Alex Cooper]

Say cheeseburger.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Cheeseburger. Oh, this really works for me.

[Alex Cooper]

Donut I love call her Daddy.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Donut I love call her Daddy. Or do you like it like this? Donut I love call her daddy.

[Alex Cooper]

So do you like my pitch?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I can't say.

[Alex Cooper]

But you like it?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

It's not necessarily your pitch. Somebody might have got there before you.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, but like the drama of everyone getting fired.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, I. I'm not going to start opening. I. I have a loyalty to these people.

[Alex Cooper]

But you wouldn't actually. Welcome back.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I've signed you back just for one episode.

[Alex Cooper]

Bye.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, there are still stories to tell.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, Lisa.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. What projects? Obviously, the season is wrapped, so talk to me about your. Your other projects.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Gordon Ramsay. That was epic working with him for two months. I mean, Gordon's, like, a lot to handle, so I thought, okay, but we knew each other before, so I knew that it was going to be backwards and forwards, you know, But I think for him, it was very different because normally he's the authoritarian and everything he does. And then he met me, so, yeah, it's definitely a different show.

[Alex Cooper]

Did you put him in his place?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Well, yeah, I kind of enjoyed doing that a little bit.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, you got a little excited?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Not a little bit.

[Alex Cooper]

A lot.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

A lot.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, last two questions. What is the best part and worst part of essentially living your life on tv?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

I don't like it when people lie about you. That's the worst part. The best part. There are so many beautiful things that have been forever documented. Good times, bad times. My daughter's wedding. My little grandbaby crawling across, you know, the carpet. Like, I mean, when we filmed him, you know, just once or twice. Vanderpump Villa. Seeing the beauty and the experience that we all had there. Wonderful, wonderful moments. Really, really.

[Alex Cooper]

My.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

My life hasn't changed that much. Not like some people when they, you know, on television. I mean, of course, the fame and everything, but I spent a lot of time at home, and I'm still in my restaurants. But, you know, when you met me on television, I had a beautiful house. I'd had 37 restaurants prior to that that we'd sold, you know, and I had a, you know, a nice lifestyle. It wasn't like some people. They start and then they get this incredible lifestyle and don't know how to handle it. My life materially hasn't changed. Yeah, well, not always, but I mean, when you first started. Yeah, exactly. So that hasn't changed. But the incredible experiences that I've had, being able to go to Congress to change laws about. About humane treatment of dogs. Congress watched Housewives. I mean, so having access to so many things, being voted, you know, one of the women of the year by state assembly, like, just. I mean, speaking at causes that I'm passionate about, being given so many opportunities, can't minimize that ever.

[Alex Cooper]

What do you think is the biggest misconception about you?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

That I'm a high maintenance. I don't mind people thinking that. I just feel like, really sometimes I'm thinking, oh, am I disappointing them when I show up on my own and I'm doing my own makeup? I'm thinking maybe they would like me to be like certain members of Housewives. When I had all this and people running around after me, I can't even get a cup of tea in this place.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, I feel like I have to ask you this now. It's my last question. I just need to know now that you've told me all these little things.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

Lisa Vanderpump.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

What is your favorite sex position?

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, God, it's so long ago. I don't remember. I think it's on my back asleep.

[Alex Cooper]

Lisa.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

And on that note, good night, Lisa.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you so much for coming on. This was so fun.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Thank you. I thought that would have been your first question. That's what I was prepared for. I actually said, brav. Are they gonna be talking about, like, sex all the time? So it's gonna be a very short interview if they do.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, man. I mean, I could ask you if you have any blowjob tips.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Oh, yeah, all of them. Just. All of it. Just do it. Swallow it whole. Bye, darling. Love you. Oh, my God. I have to go.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Of course. Thank you.

[Alex Cooper]

You're hilarious. Oh, my God.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

No, thank you so much. So much.

[Alex Cooper]

You finally got your tea.

[Lisa Vanderpump]

Yes. And it ain't that good. It's better than nothing.

[Alex Cooper]

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