
Join Alex in the studio for an interview with Megan Moroney. Megan opens up about her childhood in Georgia, feeling lost in high school, never fully fitting in since she was a theater kid and a cheerleader, and how her first boyfriend was actually her brother’s best friend. She talks about her college experience, educates Alex on sorority life, and breaks down the times she was getting cheated on but convinced herself to stay. Megan and Alex realize they have the same professional athlete in their past and of course, Alex asks the question we’ve all been wondering… what exactly happened with Morgan Wallen? Megan also reveals that she is OG Daddy Gang but has traded the toxic for therapy and is truly thriving now. Finally, they discuss Megan’s rise to fame, her approach to songwriting, and her new album. Enjoy!
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Alex Cooper
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Megan Maroney
What is up, Daddy gang?
Alex Cooper
It is your founding father, Alex Cooper.
Megan Maroney
With Call Her Daddy. Megan Maroney. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.
Thank you.
I am so happy you're here. I can already tell this is going to be a disaster in the best way I know.
I'm like, high key terrified.
Okay, so you're OG Daddy Gang.
Oh, gee, Daddy.
Let's just talk about that for a minute because I do think that changes the vibe of an interview, right?
It does. Like, I was a junior in college walking around the University of Georgia with my Block him hoodie. It was. It was the black one with pink writing.
So good.
I had my pink unwell hat on just being an absolute menace. A man would look at me the wrong way and I'm like, blocked.
Honestly, I think that says so much about you. I already feel like we're best friends. I already know the energy is going to be fabulous today. Congratulations. Like, you are everywhere in the best way. You're so fucking talented. You deserve all the success and everything that has come your way. Like, it's so cool to see a woman. Woman in your position rise so quickly. And it just all happened. Your new album is called Am I okay. So obviously I have to say, like, are you okay? How are we doing today? Megan, what is going on?
We are more than okay. We are been, like, the best week ever. So I'm so okay. But valid question. If you've listened to the album, it's like, dude, is she okay?
I like that you really write from, like, the personal perspective and you give a lot of details about your life and your love life specifically, because obviously the tea is hot and I love the tea. So I'm like, yes, Megan, give it. You call yourself an emo cowgirl? What does that mean? Can you explain it to us?
So emotional cowgirl. Not to be confused with goth cowgirl. I get a lot of questions about those two.
Because you're not giving goth.
I'm not giving goth. We're giving pink sparkles. Like, over the top. Not goth, but emotional. I am probably the most emotional, sensitive person ever.
When is the last time you cried over a guy?
A few months ago.
I thought you were gonna say a few minutes ago.
Oh, no, no, no. Girlfriend. We are good.
We are good.
A few months ago. Yeah, I was just. I was having a breakdown over a loser.
But, I mean, isn't it so sad when you waste your tears on a loser and then it's 22, and then.
Like, you think of your mental state and you're like, girlfriend. But, like, you have to have those moments. Like, you have to go through it, and then for sure, you come out on the other side and you're. You're better.
And then the best is when you look back and you're like, yes. Was it embarrassing? I cried. Like, not as bad as a. Like, he's such a fucking loser. Like, I don't care as much anymore. And you have perspective, right? But in the moment, it hurts.
It does hurt in the moment, but we got some good songs out of it.
Okay, so let's talk about. You, obviously are a country singer. You. Where were you born and raised? Like, take me back to your hometown and what growing up was like.
So I was born in Savannah, Georgia. I grew up in Douglasville, Georgia, which is west of Atlanta. And I feel like for 22, 23 years of my life, I grew up very normal. Like, this all just changed. So, yeah, I mean, I grew up playing guitar with my dad and my brother. They taught me how to play guitar. I was a cheerleader in high school. I also did musical theater, though, so, like, you can imagine, the vibes were a little weird, to be honest.
Those don't go together.
So, Yeah, I hurt my knee cheerleading, though, my junior year. I was in a wheelchair for two months. I have, like, a gnarly scar on my knee that you can tell me later.
Okay. Cheerleading. Taking your pants off already? I'm like, babe, we're five minutes in. Honestly, let it rip.
But I was in a wheelchair, so while I had nothing to do, I really learned how to play guitar. My dad taught me. And it was only for fun, though, like, you know, after school and on the weekends. My dad and I. I loved country music growing up. I've always loved country music. So me and my dad would just sing together with. If my brother was in town, we'd do three part harmonies. It was just fun. And I never thought that I would have a career out of it, though. It was always just for fun because I. Where I'm from, you kind of do what your parents do when you grow up, you know? And my mom is an accountant, so. So I. I understood accounting, so I was like, maybe I'm supposed to be doing taxes. I'll get to college and figure it out. So that was my mindset. So, yeah, I. I feel like I had a very normal upbringing. Music was only just, like, a side.
Thing, but I feel like what we see sadly, but also positive for those that have this kind of, like, rise. Like, he was like, if you get to have a normal childhood, you have the best chance of keeping your shit together and not losing your mind and, like, going through it. Because people, at a young age, it's, like, important to have your formative years try. If you can have normalcy and, like, stability and not people like taking photos of you as much as we all think at a young age, that would be so cool. That's a lot to put a young kid through. And then it's almost like in their 20s and 30s, they want to, like, go back and relive, like, a childhood and, like, recreate what they wish they had. You had a normal life, so you're now, like, coming into this and, like, it seems like you're just like a normal girl in the best way that, like, went to college and had pretty normal life experiences. You just mentioned your brother. I'm curious. Growing up, like, were your brother's super protective with boys? Like, what was the vibe in the house?
So my oldest brother that plays guitar, he is about 15 years older than me, I think. Okay. And so I didn't grow up with him, but my other brother is two years older than me.
Same. My brother's two years older than me.
He is like this sweet angel. Like, I could not ask for a better brother. So he was never like, the brother that was, like, cussing my boyfriends out. But he's definitely protective. I dated his best friend. That was my first boyfriend.
I love how I'm like, was he, like, protective? And, like, did he scare boys away? Meanwhile, you're like, no, I ruined his life. I dated his best friend.
Yeah, they're not friends anymore, Megan. Yeah. That I wouldn't go back and do that again.
We. Tell me the story. What happened.
So. So I. It was actually, like, really weird looking back. I was in eighth grade, and he was a. What is that? A sophomore going to be a junior. So I was about to be a Soph or a freshman, though. So he was high and on the baseball team. And I started, like. I don't even know how we started talking. I think we started texting or something. He became my first, like, serious boyfriend. We dated for two and a half years. He shattered my heart because when it was time for him to go to college, he, like, made up some lie and, like, broke up with me and I was distraught. Like, I had. My mom had to sleep with me every night for, like, a month.
You know what's crazy is, like, when you get older, I still probably would want my mom to sleep with me when I'm crying. But since we don't live together, like, I'm like, if the proximity was there. What. I still call my mom when I was heartbroken. Yes. If she would be my bed, I would even, like, more and, like, sob all night. We also. I'm dead. That. That was then your brother's best friend, like. Yeah. And he was like, chill in the house about it.
Well, my brother is one of those things where he was like, well, he's making her happy, so I'm not going to. I know. He's like the sweetest, sweetest angel. But, yeah, that didn't end. That didn't end well.
Okay. Because I know then the story. Doesn't it go like, then you wanted to go to the same college as him?
Yes. So me and my brother were, like, very close growing up. Like, I wanted to be like. I wore my brother's clothes growing up.
Yes.
He played baseball. So I played baseball. I wasn't on the softball team. I wanted to be like my brother. So when he went to the University of Georgia. And my brother's a smart one. Um, not that I'm not smart, but my brother is, like, he never had to study for tests. He graduated with, like, a 4.0. I'm just like.
Like. Like a couple brain cells.
Like, Miranda Lambert has a song that says, my brother got the brains of the family, so I thought I'd learn to sing. And I'm like. I resonated with that lyric so hard as a young child.
You're doing fine.
But I followed him to uga. Yeah. So when I was a freshman, he was a senior. Like, he did my laundry for me. It was a perfect scenario. I lived in the dorms, which were crusty as hell. He had a house, so we would have, like, pizza nights once a week. It was, like, very wholesome.
Okay, wait, back to high school before we get to college. What were you like in high school?
I. I feel like I was a very much a relationship girl. I had that boyfriend for two years. And then my second half of high school, I also had a boyfriend. So I feel like I was in. I was a cheerleader, too, but I was also in musical theater, so I feel like I was friends with everyone, but I didn't feel like I really belonged.
High school. I was gonna say, like, if I Walked into your cafeteria. What clique am I sitting, like, seeing you with?
Maybe with the cheerleaders, but, like, on the very end seat.
Stop. Because then, like, your theater girls are.
Like, well, it was like, the theater girls were like, should we trust her? She's a cheerleader. And then the cheerleaders are like, I just. I did not know who I was in high school. I would not say I peaked in high school.
Okay, hold on. Did I read, though, that then you thought about going and following your high school boyfriend to college?
Megan, I am a simp, dude. I. Dude, if he. If he said, go to this college for me, I would have been like, babe, I got you. I will absolutely rearrange my life for you. Not anymore. Not anymore.
No, you were a farm.
Not anymore.
We're.
We're recovered. Right?
But okay, when you were simping, were you guys with the same age? This is not your brother's best friend. This is a new boyfriend.
This is a new boyfriend. The day I got into uga, I was like.
You'Re, like, breaking up with you.
Love you so much. Not really. Gotta go.
It's so crazy. Like, I remember I had a high school boyfriend, and when I got to Boston, I was convinced I was gonna stay with him. I'm like, we're gonna make it work long distance. The minute I got on campus and saw, like, the junior boys, I was literally like, peace.
Like, you get to UGA and there's guys that are like six, five there, and you're like, oh, my God.
You literally don't even remember your ex boyfriend's name.
It was so fun. Like, it was so.
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Megan Maroney
Right? Okay. You're in a sorority.
I was.
And like, I am from the Northeast. I went to school in Boston. Like, I don't. And I was an athlete, so I don't understand sorority life whatsoever. You need to, like, walk me through being in Georgia and being in a sorority. I feel like that is like the creme de la creme of like, crazy sorority life. Tell me everything. Like, what was the best? What was the worst parts of it?
It was insane. And I don't regret It. I think that being in Katy, actually, I was a Kappa Delta, and I wasn't necessarily involved in everything. Like, I wasn't, like, planning it. Like, I would go to what I had to go to to not get fine.
It is capita not to get fined. Oh, you.
If you don't go to chapter, you, like, find and stuff.
Okay, wait, hold on. I. Maybe daddy gang, like, knows what the fuck is going on, but I need. Slow down. First of all, what is. If you didn't go to chapter, if.
You didn't go to chapter, you would get fined or, like, chapter. Chapter is, like, once a week, something. That could have been an email. I always went in there, and I'm like, this could have been an email, but thank God I'm not studying for my desk. This is awesome.
What do you do at chapter?
You sit there. I'm like, I honestly have trauma blocked it out.
Like, I don't remember because I don't want to remember.
It wasn't as culty as people make it sound, but there were some, like, things where we'd all have to sing together. It was, like, only like, once a month where you would, like, do the chants together. No, literally, like, I'm not even kidding.
We do a chant. Come on.
I don't remember it. Oh, I swear.
One, two, three.
Those were. That's rush week. And anything you see on TikTok that looks that insane is literally, like, the. It is. It was an experience. And I will say I wouldn't go back and change it, but, like, once you're out of it, you're like, that is kind of crazy.
Crazy.
We paid to be in it. We paid a lot of money to be in it. And if you didn't go to things, you'd get fined. But I did meet my best friends. And, I mean, like, my sorority had 300 girls in it, though. So you're not going to, like, everybody.
Alex Cooper
Oh, my.
Megan Maroney
Obviously, like, I think that's kind of what they portray is like, oh, my God, we're the best of friends. If you're a Kappa Delta, then it's family and. Well, I don't disagree with that, but it's just, like, it's hard to get 300 girls to get along.
Yeah.
But I met my very best friends through that. Like, my best friend Natalie. We met the first day of rush, and, like, we are inseparable. She lives in Nashville.
Like, that's amazing.
And there's, like, so many others that I met through Katie, and. But it was definitely, definitely like, being in a sorority In Georgia is exactly what you would think it is.
What was your type in college? Like what guys you're going for?
Douchebag.
Oh fuck.
No, I'm just. That's not on purpose. But there's a through line.
And then it kept going out of.
College, which we're still unpacking in college. Loved an athlete.
Oh my God. You know, loved an athlete.
College or professional? Didn't care.
Oh my God. Megan. Hold on. Rewind, hold on. Okay, so you weren't going for the frat boys.
No.
And so what sports on campus did we infiltrate?
Football.
See, I didn't have a football team. What the. I had. Saw, I had soccer and oh, hockey was like the main thing in Boston. Okay. The football boys.
It was brief though. And then I. Baseball too. Different college though. I dated a baseball boy that played at a different college.
How was that?
It was an experience.
Did he cheat on you?
Yes.
It's like a rite of fast.
Can I be honest with you though? He's my favorite ex.
Really?
Because he came around and apologized for his actions and was like, you know what? I did treat you like I was immature. And I can respect that.
I can respect that too. It's like when they really like push you so down in the dumps to at least apologize. Cuz some of them act like you're crazy. Even if you like find the nudes on the phone like that. Something.
Okay, like speaking of that. So I had found a nude on a phone and he. He said it was from a long time ago, whatever. Actually I didn't find it. He was like going through his Snapchat and then it just like comes up, you know what I mean? And you're like, what was that?
Why did. Wait, and this is in college.
This was in college. Okay, So I was like, what was that? And whatever lie he told, I believed him.
Of course. You're like, oh my God, babe, don't worry.
More evidence that I was in a shower and I saw this like long piece of brown hair on the wall of the shower and I convinced myself.
That you were going brown.
No, that his hair. No, it was. I convinced myself that that strand of hair came off his head.
Megan, I thought you were gonna say you were going combing through your own hair. Being like, there must be one piece of brown coming through, bitch. What?
It was a low point for me. And the best part is. And like I will be out of all my exes, like I swear he's one of my favorites because he's just him. And I. It Was an immature relationship. I think you look back at college and you're like, we were stupid. We were having fun and it was never that serious. And so that's how I view him.
Is he the one that you found the news on his phone?
Yeah.
Got it. But that's how you found out he was cheating.
Yeah, it was. Or that's how I, like, had an inkling and then.
But can I just pause you there? I think that's a really, really good moment for us women to look at. Like, when we get mad at our friends for not leaving their, like, piece of shit boyfriends that we all know they're cheating. Like, think about what you just said. This man has short brown hair. And you find a 22 inch long brown extension curled up in the shower and you're like. Like, it must be Brad's. Like, it must be.
Like, it's gotta be him.
Like, the delusion.
He would never do that to me. He loves me. He said he loves me.
This has to be his hair. It's the delusion run so deep we can't even be mad. It's like you are blinded until you get out. Okay, what were you gonna say?
So I'm not a phone looker. Through her.
Okay.
But I purchased his apple watch.
Okay?
So I looked through that.
No, Megan. What's worse?
That I bought it. So it was my watch to go.
Through the genius sitting across from me. I have never been more impressed.
And you know what? You know what I did? I sent him a picture. I was supposed to meet him somewhere. I was still getting ready. He had to go early.
I'm like crying out of happiness. I'm literally.
I sent him a picture of the Apple watch and the pic, like the text that proved that my suspicions were correct. And then he starts calling me a million times. I have packed up all of my belongings, put them in my 2010 Mustang at the time.
Oof.
Girl. And I went to the pool.
What?
And I waited for him to get home.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. No, no, no. I. I need you to rewind. Because my brain just blacked out. I'm like. And then she drove away. Hold on. You what?
I sent him the proof. So he had to go somewhere. I was supposed to meet him. I sent him. He left his apple watch. So I was like, this is God's plan, right? So gonna go through. I send him the pictures. No caption, no nothing. I just sent it to him.
What are the pictures?
It's just texts where they're like, late. Like, they went Out. And, like, he's like, oh, your door's locked. Like that sort of stuff. So I send him that. No reaction. He's calling me a million times. I don't answer. I wait until he's done at his event and has to come home and deal with me. And where does he find me? All of my shit packed in my car, and I am laying by the pool, lounging.
Are you like. Are you in a bikini?
Can I preface this? I was in college listening to Call Her Daddy at the time. No, I think this is your doing.
You're listening to my voice. Be like, get a match. Burn his home down. Smile and take a.
Leaving right now is not good enough.
Alex Cooper
No, you need to, like, relish in it.
Megan Maroney
Just like, hi, babe, the crazy eyes. Like, did you get my text?
I've been waiting for you to come home. And honestly, can I be really honest?
Yes.
I simped and I stayed that night. This is okay. This is what I'm talking about, though. Like, being able to live life and go through college and be delusional and dumb has made me the person I am to realize that, like, it's okay to be that dumb because one day you will grow up and be 26 years old and laugh at that.
I am so appreciative of your honesty because you're just like, I appreciate it. You're not too cool to be like, bitch, I stayed, like, absolutely. I made him dinner that night.
I am, like, so easily manipulated.
Like, what was his. What was his lie?
What was. See, I don't even remember, but it must have been good. I think, honestly, you know what it was. Which now I have, like, a song that correlates, which. This song wasn't even written about the situation, but it correlates was like, I knew if I left, I would have to go home, and I wasn't supposed to be home, so my mom would ask me why I was there. And then I have to get the mom involved. Oh, so I have a song called Mom, I Lied on my new record, which is not about this situation. Because he's sweet angel. We love him. This is about a different guy, but.
He'S a sweet angel. We love him.
Wait, no, now, at the time, okay, we were mad at him for.
You love all of your exes. You love the Snapchat baby boy with the nudies. You love the man. Does it say man?
No. No. Okay, I take it back. We don't love him. But compared to the rest, oh, it.
Just keeps getting worse. I love how Meghan's like. And I just like. And the woman I am today. Because it got better. You're like, hold my shit. Actually, Alex, the Mustang has nothing on them. What I'm about to share with you. Okay. Did you unpack the Mustang alone? Did you do it, like, the next day?
And honestly, shortly after that, our relationship was never the same. And so it did take, like, two months. And then after that big event, it was never the same.
I will say, when you are close with your mother, there's nothing worse. Like, I did the same where I found out a guy was cheating on me, and I was just like, I have. I would rather stay than tell my mom right now because I'm not ready for her to know in the wrath of, like, her to protect me. I need to, like, live in the delusion just a little bit longer.
Like, I haven't decided if I'm really done yet. So when I tell my mom it's over, like, like, my first. Back to my first boyfriend. Oh, my God. When I said I was gonna, like, text him, my mom's like, I will turn your phone off. And my mom, like, monitored my text messages.
You're still on the family plan. She's like, I will cut the cord if you even try. Oh, wow. I really love that about your mom, though, because she's trying to keep you honest with yourself, of, like, you deserve better, but you're like, I don't want better right now, Mom. This feels.
I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay. So that was college. That. And what are we. This is like. Like sophomore Junior.
That was sophomore ish, I believe.
Okay. Okay. Did you ever like, the same guys? Any of your sorority sisters or. No, you were like. You were out in the field and they were with.
I actually dated guys usually. Like, I didn't actually date any guy at Georgia ever. Like, they were always elsewhere.
I'm not gonna lie. That is probably the best way to do it. So you can kind of keep your own over there and, like, not have to deal with them on campus and you. It's a better way to go about it. I did the same exact thing, actually. Is it a better way to go about it? It's absolutely not. It's actually make 10 times shadier, but it seems fun. Okay. What professional sports were we dabbling with in college?
Sweetie, can I play the bib?
I thought you were about to look at me. I don't know why. Okay, can I be honest? You just gave me a look that I thought you're about to be. Like, I have a funny Story. We have talked to the same man before. I'm like, I wouldn't put.
I actually have a story for that at a later date. We do know a same hockey man.
Wait, wait. Say it to me. And we're going to cut it.
You swear?
I promise on my life. I don't want it out there either. I'm married. Okay, all of that is cut. Daddy, I'm sorry. I just blue balled you. But we do know a similar athlete, and it is not Slim Shady. He doesn't play that sport.
No.
Yeah, I think he's like, a neurotic sociopath.
I wouldn't put it past.
Okay, okay. I need to hear this story afterwards because, girl. Okay, we need to talk about college. Because I think, like, we were just talking about you are having a normal life, and all of a sudden, in college, your life changes. And, like, from what I was doing my research on. And I want you to tell the whole story. Like, this wasn't a planned thing. Right. This kind of just happened that all of a sudden, your career took off. Tell us the full story if you can. If you don't mind.
Yes. I'll try to make this brief because it's long, but. So, like I said, I grew up playing music with my family, so I would post videos on Instagram sometimes of, like, our covers, and if the harmonies sounded good, I'd post that. And so when I got to college and I was in the sorority, I was known as, like, the country singer, just because I didn't even write songs. I was just singing country songs with my family. So everyone's like, that's her. And so for one of our philanthropy events, we hired John Langston, which he's a country artist, and we used all of our budget on him, so we didn't have money for an opener. But they were like, megan is the country singer. She can surely get up there and entertain people for 20 minutes before John Langston comes on. So me, my dad, and my brother played that gig. We played three cover songs. I think it was like, two Miranda Lambert songs and one Casey Musgrave song. And at that show, Chase Rice is there. So of course he was at the sorority. Right?
Of course. Of course. Chase. Of course.
Shout out, Chase. He saw me perform there and was like, I have a show at the Georgia theater next month that isn't sold out. If you bring all of these hot girls to the Georgia theater, you can open for me. First of three. The only condition is that you write your own song, because I don't want you to perform covers. That's weird. And so I wrote one song to be able to do that, and the rest were covers. So I had 30 minutes. And since I. Like, ever since I played that show, like, it completely changed everything, and I was like, this is what I want to do with my life. I don't know how I'm gonna make this happen, but we're gonna do it. So.
Dude, that is so crazy that, like, it was, like, a hobby of yours, that you're like, I do this fun thing with my family, and then all of that. Was that crazy for your family to be like, you're taking off when it was kind of like your guys, like, fun hobby thing together? Yeah.
Like, it was very surreal for my family to, like, see me perform at the Georgia Theater, because that's, like, an iconic venue in Athens, and for it to happen, like, so quickly. It was my freshman year, but even throughout college, you know, like, I also, like, never skipped class. I was very into school, so I was very focused on schoolwork. So I really didn't write that much in college. I really didn't start writing writing all the time until Covid. So even in college, like, I was known. I was getting gigs, and I was playing at the local restaurant for tips and literally, like, for 10 people. But it wasn't like, oh, she's doing it. Because it was also like, well, there's 10 people here, and they're all your friends.
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. Wait. I'm so fascinated, though, because if you weren't always writing songs, like, what was that, like, first songwriting process, like, for you, when you had to, like, sit down and start to figure out, like, what your sound was in your voice?
It's really interesting because I have no idea. I, like, just sat down with the guitar, and I was like, okay, you have to write a song. The first song I wrote was called Stay a memory, and it was like, of course, like, a fuck you song. It's like, stay in memory and don't come back. And that's kind of the vibe of my music now. So I feel like I've always had that kind of, like, empowering, confident, like, vibe to my songwriting. And then my junior year, I feel like I wrote. I got my heart broken pretty bad, and I started writing songs for, like, therapeutic purposes. And it was like, ever since then, it's just been easy. Like, I started. I learned how to write by myself. And I always tell young songwriters, like, if there's anything you need to do, it's learn to write by yourself because you know, you have a point of view, you know what you want to say. And if you can sit down and finish a song, then like, you've got it.
Well, that's what I was going to say is like, what I love so much about your music is you can, yes, you can tell that you are personally writing it. And, and I appreciate when it's obviously very relatable because you're going through like a lot of shit that like women go through, AKA heartbreak. And when I'm listening to your songs, I have to ask, like, what would you consider your biggest heartbreak?
My biggest heartbreak?
Like, what was the worst one?
My biggest heartbreak? Like, I, I think there's like a few that are tied. It's guys I didn't date.
I get it.
That sounds so dramatic. But like I said, I'm. I'm very sensitive and I guess you could say dramatic. So what I've created in my head is always so much better and hard to let go of than what actually happened. Like with the guys that I've truly dated. Like, we see it through till we like, you know what I mean? Like, by the time it's like we're done, okay, we are handshaking like, peace, peace. But it's the guys I feel like that have broken my heart the most are the ones that like, I never even like officially dated.
It's like the situationships where you are like half of the relationship is you like laying in bed and like fantasizing about like what you'll be. And half of the things you think about and fantasize, they never even happen.
Or like they've showed you who they could be. And so in your brain you create an entire scenario of what has not and will not happen.
It's actually so painful. And when you say it like that though, it does make more sense. You're right. Like when you're in long term relationships, you go through everything together almost.
Right.
And by the end, like I actually kind of understand when you're like like the college guys that you, that you were like, I love him. Like, he's great. Yeah, because you lived a whole like experience with him and it was like it was time to move on. The situationships where you're like, are we something? Are we not? I feel like I feel like your wife one day and then I feel like trash the next day. It's a motherfucking mind fuck. Are you someone that like can immediately get over someone though, or are you like on someone for a While I.
Feel like I usually sit in my sadness for a while, I. Especially now, like, I don't have time to date guys. Like, I. So, like, I feel like moving on in college was easier because you can just, oh, go out and meet some hot guy. Or, like, I used to be on Raya, so it's like, you're just entertaining yourself with other dudes or whatever. Like, and then it's like, I don't have time for any of that now, though.
So I feel like, okay, but do you ever feel like you put yourself in a situation because you know it's gonna make a great song?
Alex, there are times where my friends have scolded me, and I've been like. I'm like, no. The content we are going to get from this is going to be spectacular. Bear with me.
It's okay. To be fair, I think when I look back at a lot of my show, I'm like, I maybe stayed in things longer because I was like, God, this is gonna be a good episode. And at least we're getting to, like, put it somewhere where, like, a lot of times you hear girls be, like, doing it for the plot, but our plot turns into a song or an episode that, like, is entertaining and fun and can help people. So you know what? We can be the vessel of heartbreak, and we can just keep going through it, and then people are gonna feel better about their lives. So I don't judge you. I hope you know I've done it, too. So I was asking. Cause I was like, ooh, I wonder if she's like me, where we just, like, stay in things like that.
Like, there will be times where, like, there was a situation not that long ago where I did something and I texted my manager and I said, we're gonna get a good song out of this. Also, make me a therapy appointment tomorrow.
No, no, no. Can you. No, no. Give me a hint. Give me a hint. You were going through it.
Yeah, it was just like a. It was a fresh out the slammer by Taylor Swift situation.
I wonder if I know who you're talking about. No, no, no. Maybe I'm gonna get there. Don't worry. I'm gonna ask you a lot of questions.
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Do you believe in this? Like the classic saying, in order to get over someone, you need to get under someone new?
I think you should go to therapy.
You're like, actually, therapy? You're like, what I know in my brain is therapy. The reality of what I do.
Well, I don't think that always helps. Helps because I think, like, I've tried that before, and then it's like you end up just missing them more.
Yes.
You know what I mean? Like, it can go. It maybe works out, but I feel like for the most part, it doesn't. And for me, like, when I go to therapy and then I tell my therapist how I'm getting treated, that usually, like, helps me get over it, right?
They're like, let me. That's, like, so rough.
Let me bring you back down to earth and, like, let you realize how you're supposed to be treated. I'm like, oh, that's the worst.
When they're like, so let me say back to what you just said to me. And I'm like, no. And she's like, so you just said he did this, this, this, and this to you. And you called him the next morning. And I'm like, of course he said he was sorry, dude, that is humbling. Okay, so now I agree, though. Like, it's very rare if you're moving on from someone that you can find someone that will actually make you forget about the person that you're hung up on. That's fucking rare. Like, I maybe in my life have had it once. And then it, like, also fades anyways, right?
And then you're with the person, you're still thinking about the other person. So it's like, this is not for anyone involved.
No. Okay. Let's talk about Megan now, though, because we did, you know, I did catch when you said, you know, oh, it got worse.
Just for a second, it got worser.
It got worser. It got real worser. You get out of college and what happened after college? Did you get cheated on by Another.
I did. Absolutely. Of course I did, Alex. So there was this guy. I moved to Nashville right after college, literally during COVID So that was, like, a horrible time to move anywhere, but I was just dying to get after it. So I can't remember if it was. I guess I had a boyfriend during COVID That doesn't count. It was, like, a long distance thing. That was just, like, really stupid to try to date someone long distance during COVID I don't know.
No, it doesn't work.
It doesn't work. But after that, I dated a guy in Nashville, and, well, actually, we weren't officially dating.
Those are the worst.
And, like, I. I know I'm saying the story, and everyone's gonna think it's about someone, but I'm just gonna say that it's not Morgan Wallen. It's not him. This is not this story.
This is someone that's good for the next story.
Okay, perfect. But this, right now, is not about him. I dated some guy. He had a whole girlfriend. The whole time I was with him every single day. He had a girlfriend.
Meghan.
He wasn't just cheating.
The trust issues that are coming out of this episode.
Dude. And, like, I could not believe it. He was. He was, like, low key. Insane, though. Like, when I first met him, he called my friends into the bathroom. I was crying about the feelings he had for me. Like, there was something not right up here.
Nope.
And that's who Sleep on My side is about. So I have a song called I Sleep on My side, and you sleep with everyone that's about him.
Dude, your voice in person is insane. It's like, what? What?
But yeah, so I. And we weren't officially dating because I wouldn't date him because I had the feeling that I, you know, got. He had a girlfriend the entire time. I get a hey girl dm.
No. Nope. Yeah, no hey girl.
Not a hey girl. And she's like, I think you're talking to my boyfriend. And I was like, your boyfriend? And then I can. Like, once I cut things off with him, I immediately cut things off because I was like, that is insane. I'm with you every single day, and you have a girlfriend. Like, a whole girlfriend. Not even just. And they've been dating for, like, years.
Bye. I can't. I. Men.
So did you confront him? Like, did. Oh, of course. Yeah. I was like, literally, never speak to me again. I know we're not break. I know we're not together, but we're breaking up, right? So this man sends me flowers no, the girl is trying to get information out of me. Like, I think you're being crazy. Like, he's not actually with you. And I'm like, girl, he. I'm. I'm telling you, girl to girl. He sent me flowers. She was like, no, he didn't. He would not do that. He just said he didn't send you flowers. And I was like. And this guy, like, I took. He met my family. Not on purpose, but just because, right, there was a wedding during New Year's and I needed a date. Wasn't on purpose, but like, he, like, accidentally met my whole family. So it, like, wasn't just casual and he had a whole girlfriend.
But the problem is, and I think this is a learning lesson for all of us, is the girl that's like, no, I think you're being crazy. Blah, blah, she's in her hair in the shower phase where she believes. She's like, he must be telling me the truth. She's a liar. Like, like, she clearly probably figured out.
One day I felt bad and I literally was like, genuinely run. Because if he can be that scary to you, clearly he's manipulating you really badly. Yeah, he's trying to lie to me too. But I've already been manipulated by Showerman, my first boyfriend, the junior year guy. I'm like, girl, the veteran. I'm like, girl, I'm watching out for you. You need to run. I think since I, like, see her on my for you page sometimes time. I think since then she has moved on. Oh, my.
Thought you're gonna say they're married. I'm like, it's a classic. It's a classic. Damn. Okay.
But yeah, that was a situation. And that was another thing where, like, looking back, I was like, he cried to my friends about liking me so much. I think screws were loose, some sort of manipulation thing. I'm not sure what's going on there.
But that's when you know, like, if it's too early on and he's like sobbing, you're like, first of all, why are you crying? Like, it's not that deep. We haven't even said we loved each other. And we're also not even dating yet. So let's reel in the emotions. What. What is this act and my performance.
Were confused because they were like, that's really sweet, but we're what's going on, right?
And then clearly, yeah, it's all a facade to, like, get you more attached and, like, get you more into it. And then meanwhile, he has a full ass family at home. And you're like, damn, that was insane. Okay, so, Megan, hey, did you date Morgan Wallen?
Never. Exclusively.
And goodbye.
Okay. Oh, my God, thank you so much. It's been so much fun.
And goodbye, everyone. Let's go talk off camera. Okay. Interesting. Not exclusively. So you. I think it's obvious. And that's why, like, I do appreciate you being honest, because, like, I feel like everyone kind of knows, and I.
Have so tried to avoid that in every single interview I've ever done.
But you're here.
But we're here now, and it's time has passed and all is well. So.
Okay. Is your song Tennessee Orange about him?
I will not sing my songs about.
Ever, because just did you. Okay.
Oh, that's true. Yeah. We'll never name. See?
Okay. Fair, fair, fair, fair, fair. Okay. You won't confirm. Do you think he has any songs about you?
I have no idea.
Lies, lies, lies. Okay. Why did the relationship end?
Okay, so it was never a relationship. Okay, I will. Here's what. I'll tell you, though, because I haven't told anyone this ever. Here we go. So him and I met in 2020.
Okay.
John Langston actually introduced us, and I. So I was a senior in college. Covid hadn't happened yet. His Dangerous album wasn't even out yet. So we were friends for a long time. So we've. It's what, 2024? That was 2020. 2020. So we're friends for a long time.
Okay.
We were not just friends, and now we're friends.
I love that answer. Okay, so you guys had, like, a little thing. A little thing. But you weren't officially dating.
Yeah, no, never officially dating.
But as we talked about. Megan, those can be the worst.
Yeah. I will say, if anyone's, like, overly sensitive and will get their heartbroken and, like, yeah, it's. It's me.
How did you keep something like that that private?
It's not that hard. He's. I feel like he's a very private person.
You think?
Yeah.
So you kind of just like, maneuvered around.
Well, yeah, it was not, like. Like I said, we weren't exclusively dating ever.
Okay.
And I think both of our schedules, like, we have insane, like. Like, when we try to hang out, it's like, okay, we have this one day of the whole month where we're both maybe in town, and then someone's got something going on. It was like, that sort of thing. But him and I are friends.
I think that's great. Obviously, you know, I had to ask. I, like, I Don't want to make you uncomfortable.
I know.
Come on, Megan. I had to ask. I know.
And honestly, I just. Because he's such a private person, it just feels, like, awkward talking about it.
I. I think that you gave me exactly what we needed to know. We can move on. Okay. Are you single or are you in a relationship right now?
I'm singing, so single.
How is single life?
I love it. I sleep so good. Oh, like, no. Nobody's son is stressing me out. Like, I. I'm in REM sleep every night. You know what I mean? And I feel like all of my free time is being spent with my girlfriends.
Okay.
And I can just really, like, enjoy being in the moment. I feel like. Like I said, I'm very sensitive. So when I do date someone, like, if we're having problems or whatever, it may be, like, it really does affect me. Like, I'm the someone where, like, you can. My mood immediately is affected. So that's why, like, a song. Like, I have a song called Hell of a Show, and it was, like, really hard because I would literally cry on. Cry before I went on stage. I would perform, and then I would go cry myself to sleep. And it's, like, that was very difficult for me. So it's. I'm way happier single for now, at least. I feel like everything is so new still, so I'm enjoying not having to worry about that part of things.
I feel like that was something that I appreciated when Taylor Swift released the song. I can do it with a broken heart that, like, all of the fans for the first time were like, oh, I didn't think about that. Like, these musicians can go on stage and, like, give so much of themselves and be just, like. So just, like, happy and performative and, like, because, you know, people are there to see you and you don't want to, like, bring your emotions into it. But it was so helpful to be like, yeah, no, you guys are also human beings. Like, when you are on stage and you've been crying, like, up until you literally get shoved out there are those. Explain those type of shows to me.
Well, it's one of those things where in my song hell of a Show, I say, keep it together. I can keep it together for the room full of people here who love me better. And it's like, for those 90 minutes or however long I'm on stage, I am, like, genuinely happy. And to see, like, little girls, girls, their light eyes light up, and they have I love the girl in the mirror shirts on. It's like, it almost makes me crying over a guy. It's like, I can't believe that I'm letting him take away from this moment. So I feel like it's tough because, like, those moments right before you go on stage, you're literally like, holy shit, I was just crying, and, like, I want to die right now. But there's, like, people that are chanting my name and I gotta put it on. But, like, while it's happening, it's like, I'm just grateful anytime I can be on stage because I feel the love for my fans. And it's almost like a reminder of, like, someone one day is gonna appreciate me and isn't gonna treat me like. And will make these moments like, they will be here for these moments and not ruin them.
I love that. And I think you're so right. It's like being in front of all of your fans must be just, like, a euphoric feeling. And it kind of puts things in perspective of, like. Like, you are so talented. You're so incredible. You're so smart. Like, you're funny. Like, even sitting with you now, I'm like, I feel like we're friends. Like, you're a great time. Like, the right person will come. And those type of moments, as hard as they are right before, it's like, it puts in perspective. Like, you're gonna be fine.
Right.
Have you figured out, like, if I was to put all of your exes in a lineup, like, do you have a type? Personality wise, looks wise? Like, what are we working with?
Personality wise? I love when someone can match my humor.
Yep.
I. I realized with my last boyfriend that humor is very important to me.
You're like, I was falling asleep at dinner, Alex. Let's put it that way.
And, yeah, I just. I love humor. That'll get me. That'll get me real quick. Like, what happened with some of my exes is that, like, I would be so mad at them, and they would know that humor is my weakness, so all they had to do is make me laugh. And then I'm like.
I literally think you giggle as you're, like, crying, and.
Then you're like, we're, like, so back. So I think humor's number one. I also realize, like, I want a guy. I realize that ego. Like, I'm older now, too, and, yeah, my last relationship, like, real relationship, I would say, was, like, one of my first real adult relationships, and I can't deal with any sort of ego. I felt like I wasn't being, like, supported. So that was, like, a Thing, like, he didn't want to listen to my music.
I'm sorry.
I didn't know about his job.
Wait, hold on. So hold on.
Through therapy, I'm realizing that that's an ego thing. And I'm like, oh, we can't do that.
Hold on. First of all, even you just, like, you on Tick Tock and your acoustics, like, I was literally talking to all the girls, and every girl was like, like, okay. Like, I just, like, wish she would sing for, like, two seconds so I can hear her voice. She's. You just did it earlier. And I'm like, you have an insane voice. The perks of dating a musician is being like, babe, sing for me. And you get to be, like, serenaded. And he didn't want to hear your perfect voice.
Well, there was, like, a time where. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get too into it, but what sucks about therapy is that, like, when you get into therapy, you realize that the problems are deeper than you up. And it's like, then you just feel bad. So that's kind of. Yeah. Back to my type, though. I think I need funny. I easily get blinded by abs and height. I've done a lot of dumb for like, 6, 5.
I love that I've seen on Tick Tock. It's like, you rank what's most important. You, like some girls, are super into, like, the arms or the back or the eyes, the teeth. You're like, abs.
Oh, my God, I'm gonna fold. I'm gonna fold.
You're literally in a fight. He cheated. And he just, like, takes off his shirt and you're like, like, we're back.
So, yeah, height too. But, like, I. I really. I think as far as, like, I'm not looking for a relationship, but if I was.
Yeah.
To be looking for someone, I think they would have to be funny, supportive. And I think those are, like, the main two.
Well, I think that something that I can immediately tell because you're so successful and you're this, like, young, gorgeous woman is like, I can imagine you're gonna need to find a man that's so secure within himself because to have someone across from you and I've had it where, like, you're a successful woman that already is intimidating to people, even if they're not dating you. Like, people are going to, like, talk about you. They're gonna find a reason not to like you because, like, people get jealous or they're intimidated, whatever the angle is. And so for a man to not be able to be like, that's my girl. And, like, proud of you. And instead, like, trying to make you feel insecure and, like, push you down and, like, make you not feel like you're, like, thriving that can get so fucking toxic and can really impact you.
Well, that's how I felt. Anytime I would be, like, proud of myself, it was like, he felt like he needed to humble me. And, like, yeah, dude. And, like, even so, I got nominated for some ACM Awards.
Yeah, you did.
I. I texted him. This was when we were, like, broken up, but still trying to make things work because, like, I said, I will be a dead horse till it's there, till the end, especially dead. And. And he was like, oh, my God, that's so great. Congrats. And then it's like, oh, my God, I have a crazy day at work. Like, just immediately. Immediately, yeah.
Not like, oh, my God, babe, let me take you out for dinner. We're gonna toast. This is so fun. Like, let's celebrate tonight.
Like, and I realize that that is gonna be important to me, but I also. Then with fucking therapy, it's like, I do understand that it would be hard to date me. My personal life revolves around my work life, which is not for everyone. And I totally understand that. That, yeah, like, every. Anytime I get to hang out with you one on one, because we're chilling, is because my career is not in the way, which is almost never. So I feel like that's why dating right now is just, like, really hard, because I don't want to let up on my career. I feel like I'm all in in it right now, and I'm so much enjoying it. And I told my therapist, I was like, am I being crazy? And she was like, you're 26. Why would you not be all in in your career, dude?
I was also gonna say, like. Like, I remember feeling like I was never gonna find a guy that could, like, handle what I was doing, and I was the same way. I'm like, I'm literally not stopping. Like, I have so much I want to do. I'm so motivated, and I want to push myself. And then I promise you, it's once you just, like, get in that mindset, the right person will come along that, like, you're so good in what you're doing and you're so not willing to waver and, like, have a couple months where you get swept off your feet and you're not focused. That person will come in because no one else will be able to get in at one point, because you're so locked on yourself. And that's when you're gonna find someone that you're like, oh, like, there he is, cheering me on. And then he will probably have his own. I think it's important for people and it doesn't mean career. Like, whatever fulfills someone. You have to have your own, to feel confident in yourself, to actually look at someone like you and be like, I am only happy for you. There's no jealousy. There's no, like, ego issue where I'm feeling like I have to like, trump you. And that is when you're like, like, God bless. Hold on. Therapy. When did you get into therapy?
I think about a year ago. Yeah, and I actually got into therapy because my producer. My producer is Christian Bush. He's half of Sugar Land, you know, so. And he was someone that was like, you need to get a therapist. He kept saying that to me. I think I would come in with like crazy ass stories and he'd be like, you need a therapist.
Like, great song. But let's.
I know, like, we're so happy. We love this song. You need therapy.
Therapy.
And he kept saying it and I kept not doing it. And so he contacted my manager and was. They booked the appointment for me. So I basically forced me to go. And I think that's the only way I was gonna go, though.
Interesting.
And I really got into it as, like, maintenance because like I said, I lived like 22, 23 very normal years of my life. And to suddenly be, you know, shot up into the spotlight, it. That's why I needed therapy because I'm like, I didn't know how to handle. It's just like having everyone talk about you is like the most terrifying or was the most terrifying thing ever. And yeah, I mean, like, all of the Tennessee Orange interviews were like my first interviews as an artist. So I was like, scar. That's. I haven't done like a proper podcast since, like, my career took off because of that. Because I was so terrified of interviews because I was like, that's all they wanted to talk about. And I get it, of course, of course. But I was like, like terrified.
I think, though, and I appreciate you bringing that up because when someone, when this happens, anyone, like, whatever it is, when you get any type of like publicity or notoriety, I have a lot of empathy for people because it's like there is no playbook that someone hands you of. Like, this is how to deal with it. And clearly there's no playbook because we've seen so many stars or comedians or Musicians or personalities online like, either flop or succeed. But everyone has a bumpy road at some point because it's like navigating millions of people watching you. And like, now everyone wants to know, like, me asking, like, who you're dating and what you're doing, like, that's odd, but that's also what comes with it. And so, like, I think you're doing an incredible job. Like, I think you seem like you're super grounded. But I agree. I think like, getting into therapy is important for me. Even I remember being like. Like all these people are talking about me and like, whether it was people saying something that wasn't true about me or saying something that was true, but like, I wanted to defend myself or I didn't, I didn't know. Like, it's endless and you kind of don't know how to handle it. And you can do it any way you want. It's just a dance. Because most of the time it isn't going to fully portray you as a whole human being. It's like quick little things people see on the Internet. And I can imagine you're like, I have more to give than Tennessee Orange. Like, I have, so. But that's all that people cared about in the moment. It probably felt like to you, but it's like you're growing and you're changing and you're learning and like, you've got incredible music. Thanks.
Yeah, like, since then it's been better. But it was definitely like therapy was, I just think necessary too. Cause I want to stay grounded. I want to like, have check ins and be like, we need to remain sane and mentally healthy.
That's also though, I think how people last in this industry. Like, I have have so many people that come into this house and I have had a lot of people that I'm like, oh, I'm shocked. You're quite rude. And like, I didn't expect that. Or I'm like, holy shit. You are one of the biggest stars and you're the most lovely person. Like, it goes a long way to like, keep yourself in check and be like, not an egomaniac. And like, how do your parents and your family feel about all of your success?
They just, I mean, freak out. I played a show in St. Augustine that was like, at the time, my biggest headlining show. And after the show, their jaws are just on the floor. My dad's like crying through the whole thing. They're just like, when did this happen? Like, and they just like, like their neighbors will come up to them. Like, where they live in Savannah. And like, they're like, my mom's like, oh, yeah, that's our daughter. Like, just telling my whole life story. I'm like, oh, God, maybe we should.
Do some PR training, Mom. Shut up, Mom.
Yeah, but they're definitely, like, not used to it, which I feel like I'm still getting used to it too. But they're especially not used to it. Like, what the heck? Even, like on this, like, my mom's.
Like, tell Alex I said hi. We need to tell him her selfie. After this. We're gonna be like, hi, mom, we're here. No, I think it's amazing. I think you're doing a great job. I think obviously with songwriters too. Like, when you are writing about your love life, it's going to open up questions for people and you are just gonna have to decide, like, how much.
Alex Cooper
You want to share and how much.
Megan Maroney
You don't want to share. And that's like, like, you're going to figure it out.
Yeah.
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Okay, do you typically make the first move or do you wait for the guy to.
I wait for the guy, love.
Okay. You've never made the first move.
I would, I have made the first move. I would say right now you gotta come to me.
You gotta.
I'm way too busy.
I get it. You're like, make it happen.
I don't have time to like scour.
No, I get that. What is your. What is like an immediate turn off for you.
What's your Snapchat?
Are people still asking you that?
They are, they are. And one guy asked me once, I said, I don't have a Snapchat. He asked again and I was like.
Babe, I deactivated it when I was 16. Like, leave me alone. No, I feel like guys are so shady on Snapchat. That's like a warning flag.
Also, I was like, at what age do we stop?
Do we stop now? Now? 26. You stop.
Yeah.
Okay. What is your best and worst quality in a relationship?
Best quality? I would say I'm very loyal. Worst, I can't cook. Like, I'm pretty useless in this.
Okay, Megan, that is like fucking fine. Like some bitches come on here and are like, oh God, let me tell you. You're like, I can't cook.
No, no, no. There's probably a worse one. Let me think.
No, it's okay. If that's it, hype yourself up. Yes, bitch. Order in a steak dinner. You're fine. Yeah, okay. That's fine.
I mean, I'm loyal. I think you. That's maybe a question for my ex.
Boyfriend, we call them right now. What do you, what do you think all your ex boyfriends would say about you?
Most of my exes, like my proper boyfriends don't end on Good terms, they get blocked. My last one actually deleted his entire Instagram.
What? Why were people finding him?
I'm not sure. That's none of my business why he did that.
No. Why does it end on such bad terms?
I think it's one of those things where we probably should let it go before it gets to that point and then it gets to a point where we're just like, yep. This last time, though, my last relationship, I will say, was like a very mature. Like, once we were on the phone and once it was over, I've never talked to him again. And that's just like. Is what it is. Like, I. He had done something, like, over and over that I had asked him to just be more conscious of.
What?
He had a girl best friend and. Okay. I get girl best friends from childhood. Because you probably hooked up in high school and it was really weird, and you're like, we're never gonna do that again.
Okay, that's actually fair.
This was like, two year best girl best friend.
No.
And all I asked was if you're gonna. If y'. All. Because I had felt weird. A little weird about it, of course. And I was just like, whenever y' all are together, just, like, send me a text, let me know. Because something had happened when I was in Australia where I was having to track him. It's like a long thing. So I took him back after that. Like I'm saying, I got better. I never got better. I'm such a simp, Alex. I'm a sim.
I love how this is full circle. You're like, call my therapist.
No, I'm literally lover girl simp. Like, one thing about me, I'll give you 8,000 chances for you to show me that you're not the one. But anyways, this had to do with a girl best friend. All I wanted to know, I somehow was like, it's fine. Because I did believe she was a nice girl. I just was like, can you please just let me know when y' all are together? Once I found out once again, he did not let me know that they were together. And so we were perfectly fine. Like, we were doing better. He does that, calls me, and I was like, yeah, it's just like, I can't do this anymore. I'm like, right, because you're becoming crazy. Yeah, I become crazy. I'm like, it happened when it started in Australia. I was like, I'm across the world right now. It's a different day, and I'm tracking your ass. Like, I don't have Time for this. Like, I'm. I'm about to Go perform for 25, 000 people at this festival, and, like, I'm worried about your damn location.
Oh, the south is coming out. I love how the accent. The accent just goes up when you're like, let me tell you. I know I want my vacation. I'm obsessed. Oh, my God, Megan. No. Let me just validate you. No, now I'm sweating for you. I also got chills, though. When you're like 25,000 people and I'm tracking your ass. Like, it puts it in perspective. Like, these boys. These boys just a girl. No, dude, that is. And let me tell you what makes me mad bad is many things. What the is wrong with you just being so chill and open? Being like, just let me know when you're hanging out, right? That's all you ask. You didn't say you. You're not being controlling. Like, you are not allowed to hang out after the sixth time. I would then be like, I don't feel comfortable anymore. But you're being so chill and open, and he can't do you the decency. So then naturally, any human being, if you tell someone to just tell you when they're doing it and they don't, you're being shady, right? So what's happening when you're hanging out that you don't want me to know?
And like. Like, it may have never been shady.
But it's like, you.
If you don't have the decency, I just asked you to do a very simple thing for me. And, like, it would make. And, like, because you already broke my trust with the Australia thing, if we could build this back, you could build it back by letting me know. But because you like. And I feel like with therapy, how I've grown in that way. Obviously, I gave him a million chances, but once it was over, I was like, okay, you don't care about me or my feelings. And, like, if I'm gonna date someone right now, you gotta be spectacular. Cause I'm so busy, and this just isn't working, so. So it honestly ended amicably.
Yeah.
I don't know why he deleted Instagram.
I was about to say, I love how you keep flip flopping. You're like, no, we're friends. We're friends. You're like, none of my exes and I are friends. You're like, I think I pretend that we're friends. But why did I block him? He's like, yeah, there's a fire over on that side of the country. But it's fine, I guess. No, it's totally fine. You know what? I think it's like, you acknowledging all of this. It's like. Like you're recognizing patterns, and you're seeing it. Half the people that come in here sometimes I'm like, wait. You realize that you're, like, completely aware what you're doing. And I think it's awesome that you're now, like. And I have a standard now because I'm working my ass off your new album. I just have to say, like, it's so incredible to see you put something out that is, like, so personal. And also, I feel like everyone. Like I said, everyone can relate. I'm listening to these things. Like, yes. Oh, my God. This has happened to me before. I appreciate it. It. What is the inspiration? Like, when you sat down to even start conceptualizing this album, what was the inspiration?
Literally, my personal life. Like, every single one of these songs is inspired by my real life. So it was like. I write songs when I feel like I need to. Like, when I feel like. It's literally therapy for me. I don't know. Like, music. Writing songs has saved my life over and over. Like, I. Because I don't know what I would do with, like, those emotions. It's like, once I can write it down, then it's just a song. It's like. It's almost like it didn't even happen to me. You know what I mean? And I don't know if that's even a healthy way to look at it.
No, but I think it is. It's like you pour it all out, and then you're like.
And then it's like, okay, well, it can be done. And now that can be used to, like, heal people. And that is what. It's my story, but now it can also be other people's story. And I think. But, yeah, for this album, it's literally about my life, same as all of my songs. I literally shout out to everyone who inspired the album. I love you so, so much.
We also love you so, so much because it's fire. Okay. The Daddy Gang is insane. And I feel like a lot of times I'll ask people, like, either what is your favorite song? Or what is, for you, the most meaningful song? And I know that's hard, but then they're gonna go stream it. So what is the most, in your opinion, like, a meaningful song to you on this album?
Meaningful? I would say Heaven by noon. Yeah.
Can you, like, tell us a little bit about that writing process?
Yeah. So Heaven by Noon is a song about loss and grief, and it's like the feeling of you're happy that they're not in pain anymore, but you selfishly wish that they were still with us. And that song was inspired by my uncle who got killed on 9 11. He worked at the World Trade center, and he worked on the 101st floor. And that. That song was kind of written with my aunt in mind. And I just can't imagine, you know, having that happen to you and it happened to a family member. And I know that music is very healing, so I'm happy that. That I wrote that song, and I'm happy that it's out in the world. And I know I was only four years old when that happened, but the way it's affected my family, like, forever and will always affect my family. I just had never written a song about loss, and I think that it was important to write. And, yeah, we all miss my Uncle.
Dennis, so, I mean, that's so beautiful. I just got chills because I'm thinking about, like, everyone has that thing in their life and that person that they've lost. And I feel like to have a song that you can turn on when you're, like, missing that person or you're, like, right sometimes, like, you want a good cry. You know what I mean? And to be able to turn this on and be, like, thinking of that person and it's. And I think that's what's so beautiful about songwriting. And, like, what you're doing is, like, everyone's gonna find their own angle in, but everyone's gonna find an angle in because, like, that is the a. That is life. That is loss is life. You know what I mean? It's like, everyone goes through it, and everyone has their own experience with it, but, like, that is so powerful that you're someone that's now putting out a piece of work that, like, people, in a beautiful way, are going to cry to and slowly heal from. I think that's, like, incredible. It's amazing. It's literally amazing.
I think, like, we wrote it in a very general way. Like, obviously you would never know that that's what the song is about, but that's why I wanted to. I just feel like in all aspects of my life, I turned to music, and that's not something I'd written about yet. So we decided to. For this album.
I feel like you just did such an incredible job, and I feel like I'm happy I got to meet you because obviously, seeing you online and your songs, it like I. It. We see so much of you, but this. I fucking love you. I'm like, I love you. This was so much fun.
Like, college Megan would have a stroke, dude.
Literally. Like, I. But that's so cool to like know that in college you were like living a normal life and your whole life changed. And now we're sitting here like, I feel like people at home. This is like the story people love. It's like literally anyone watching this right now, your life could change overnight. And I think that's why, like going after what you love and doing what you love, like, don't let anyone make you feel small, especially a little dick. That's like, I don't care about your awards. Like, well, you should. And if you don't buy exactly little dick in it. Energy.
And I know I said this earlier, but like to. Even in college, I know, like, call her daddy was. I was walking around campus being like, yeah, block him. Wearing my unwell hat and just listening to like bizarre stories. But to see like the brand that you've built, it was like so inspiring. And yeah, you're incredible. Thank you so much.
No, thank you. I want last question to ask. That is actually weird though, to think like we were kind of at that same point when you're. We're all like saying, block him. And now growing together, like here and you're in therapy being like, okay, I need to change things up. Like that's what has also been so fun about this show is like growing with the audience and being like, for sure we can be toxic as. And there is no one better at literally.
And I personally think you have to be toxic in order to heal. Because if you're just healed, like, yes.
Right. Like what?
Boring. There's a time and place to be healed.
Trust me. The toxic will always like lightly be there. But it's not to toxic. It's more just like a little bit of the crazy.
And if you are being toxic, you're.
Aware sometimes shout out to. Sometimes Matt literally looks at me and he's like, alex, you're being like old. You stop it. I'm like, oh, sorry. I just wanted to feel something for a minute. Like sometimes the crazy comes out, but it's controlled crazy.
Agreed.
Because of therapy. Okay, last question. For anyone who is getting to know you today and is becoming a bigger fan, what do you hope they take away from this interview and learn about you?
I mean, I hope it draws them to my music. I think that on my album it feels just like living I say it's like living as a 20 something year old, but it's also, I feel like anyone could find something that they want or like and it's just about life and so I feel like if you're a fan of mine, hopefully you get to know me better. I feel like it's hard. I try to let people get to know me, you know, on the Internet and at my shows, but I feel like this is the first time I've like like sat down after everything has happened. So I feel like this is. Yeah, I hope everyone feels like they know me better and maybe I feel a song they like.
I feel like I know you better. I love you even more and your personality is amazing. And you said before we started like talking you were like, I don't know if I like my voice. You have a amazing voice. Shut up.
So annoying. I. I'm not going to even be able to listen to this back. It's like nails on a chalk.
Trust me, you crushed it. Thank you so much for coming on. This was like an honor. I'm so happy we got to meet and have hang out. I love you. Love you, love you.
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Call Her Daddy Podcast Summary
Episode: Megan Moroney: Cheating, Cowgirls, & Chaos (FBF)
Release Date: July 11, 2025
In this episode of Call Her Daddy, Alex Cooper welcomes country artist Megan Moroney for a candid and heartfelt conversation. The episode delves into Megan's personal life, her journey in the music industry, and the challenges she's faced along the way.
Megan opens up about her childhood in Georgia, providing listeners with a glimpse into her formative years.
Hometown and Family:
"I was born in Savannah, Georgia. I grew up in Douglasville, Georgia, which is west of Atlanta." [05:50]
Musical Beginnings:
"I grew up playing guitar with my dad and my brother. They taught me how to play guitar." [06:04]
Megan describes a "very normal" upbringing where music was a shared family hobby. Despite her musical inclinations, she never envisioned a career in music, aiming instead to follow a path more aligned with her family's expectations.
Balancing between cheerleading and musical theater, Megan shares the complexities of her high school life.
Activities:
"I was a cheerleader in high school. I also did musical theater." [06:17]
Social Dynamics:
"I was a very much a relationship girl. I had that boyfriend for two years." [10:48]
Megan reflects on her sense of belonging, noting that while she was friends with many, she often felt like she didn't fully fit in.
Transitioning to college, Megan discusses her experience joining a sorority and how it shaped her social life.
Sorority Experience:
"It was insane. And I don't regret it. I think that being in a sorority in Georgia is exactly what you would think it is." [16:15]
Meeting Best Friends:
"I met my very best friends through that. Like, my best friend Natalie. We met the first day of rush, and we are inseparable." [17:58]
Megan elaborates on the challenges and rewards of being part of a large sorority, highlighting the friendships formed despite the chaotic environment.
Megan recounts the moment her passion for music transformed into a serious career aspiration.
First Breakthrough:
"We hired John Langston for a philanthropy event, and he offered me a chance to open for his show at the Georgia Theater." [28:45]
Writing Her Own Song:
"I wrote one song to perform, and that completely changed everything. I knew this is what I want to do with my life." [29:19]
This pivotal performance ignited Megan's commitment to songwriting, leading her to develop her unique sound and lyrical style.
A significant portion of the episode delves into Megan's tumultuous relationships and the impact they've had on her personal growth and music.
First Breakup:
"He shattered my heart because when it was time for him to go to college, he made up some lie and broke up with me." [09:50]
Cheating Incidents:
"I dated a guy who had a girlfriend the entire time. It was insane." [40:59]
Megan discusses the emotional turmoil of being cheated on, the strategies she employed to cope, and how these experiences fueled her songwriting.
Megan emphasizes the therapeutic role of music in her life, using songwriting as a means to process and heal from personal experiences.
Therapeutic Writing:
"I write songs when I feel like I need to. It's literally therapy for me." [29:57]
Inspiration from Loss:
"Heaven by Noon is a song about loss and grief, inspired by my uncle who was killed on 9/11." [70:41]
Her songs are deeply personal, often reflecting her struggles with heartbreak, loss, and the journey towards self-discovery.
Megan candidly discusses her journey into therapy and its importance in maintaining her mental health amidst rising fame.
Starting Therapy:
"My producer kept saying I need a therapist, and eventually, he contacted my manager to book the appointment for me." [56:35]
Benefits of Therapy:
"Therapy has been necessary to stay grounded and mentally healthy." [59:57]
Megan highlights how therapy has been instrumental in helping her navigate the pressures of the music industry and personal relationships.
Reflecting on her current state, Megan shares her contentment with being single and focusing on her career.
Enjoying Single Life:
"I love it. I sleep so good. Nobody's stressing me out." [47:24]
Balancing Career and Personal Life:
"My personal life revolves around my work life, which is not for everyone." [55:33]
She expresses confidence in prioritizing her professional aspirations while maintaining meaningful friendships and personal well-being.
Megan concludes the interview by expressing her hopes for her listeners and her desire to connect through her music.
Connecting Through Music:
"I hope everyone feels like they know me better and maybe find a song they like." [75:11]
Message of Empowerment:
"Don't let anyone make you feel small, especially someone who doesn't support your growth." [73:18]
Megan emphasizes the importance of self-awareness, personal growth, and the empowering role of music in her life and for her listeners.
This episode of Call Her Daddy offers an intimate look into Megan Moroney's life, from her roots in Georgia to her rise in the country music scene. Through her honest discussions about relationships, mental health, and her musical journey, Megan provides valuable insights and inspiration for listeners navigating their own personal and professional paths.