Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s (FBF)

Summary

Call Her Daddy – Paris Hilton & Nicole Richie: Queens of the 2000’s (FBF)

Host: Alex Cooper
Guests: Paris Hilton, Nicole Richie
Release Date: June 12, 2026

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Episode Overview

This throwback episode of Call Her Daddy reunites two of reality TV’s most iconic personalities: Paris Hilton and Nicole Richie. Alex Cooper dives into their enduring friendship, chaotic childhoods, love lives, fashion crimes, wild nights, the media circus, and of course, the upcoming Simple Life reunion. The candid, playful conversation is a nostalgia trip through the 2000s, packed with personal stories, inside jokes, and big sister advice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Holiday Traditions and Hosting

• [02:29–03:14] Both Nicole and Paris are hosting family get-togethers for the holidays.
  • Nicole gathers extended family and friends every year but doesn't cook on Thanksgiving:
    • Nicole Richie: "I cook every other day of the year. I cook 364 days a year, not Thanksgiving."
  • Paris is also hosting but admits, “Thanksgiving is, like, hardcore. That's like, a lot.”
  • Paris once cooked a turkey on her show—claims it was traumatizing.

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Describing Each Other’s Personalities

• [03:41–04:05]
  • Paris on Nicole: “Nicole is hilarious, fun... she's just the most fun person in the world. When you're with her, you just laugh every second. She's so real, she's kind, and she's beautiful.”
  • Nicole on Paris: “You're so fun… also extremely tender, sentimental, and just, like, always wanting everyone around you to be happy and stunning, bitch.”

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Childhood Friendships & Rebellious Years

• [06:37–08:27]
  • Grew up together since age two, inseparable through childhood—same neighborhood, same school, same piano/orchestra teacher.
  • Were only allowed to sleep at each other's houses; strict parents but trusted each other’s families.
  • “We also used to get treated as one. So, like, if the leader of our group got mad at one of us, both of us were out.” — Nicole Richie [08:02]

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First Kisses, Vegas Escapades & Animal Smuggling

• [08:27–10:06]
  • First kisses at the same party at age 11 (spin the bottle); second kisses in Vegas during a trip where they’d blend in among adults.
  • Vegas trips involved watching “Starlight Express” and smuggling chinchillas and ferrets back to California:
    • Nicole: “We would take taxis and leave the Strip and go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores. And we would get, like, ferrets and chinchillas and then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here.”

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Parenting Styles & Rebellion

• [10:33–11:02]
  • Nicole had security at her home—sneaking out not an option.
  • Paris’ house was easier for escape “even though my mom was strict,” but Nicole’s dad’s house was the easiest—he was often on tour.

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2000s Fashion, AIM Screen Names, and Shopaholic Confessions

• [11:25–14:02]
  • Who had the better 2000s wardrobe?:
    • Paris: “Me.”
    • Both recall twin dressing, shoulder pads, bedazzling, bell bottoms; twin uniforms even for summer programs.
  • Nicole was more “delusional” about boys: “My first real boyfriend’s AOL name was Playa4Life. I was devastated and shocked to my core when he cheated on me.”
  • Paris’ AIM: “Beautiful Blonde Baby Girl” and “Princess PH” [21:53–22:14]
  • Nicole’s AIM: “Princessnr” (named after her dog) and “Ballerina Girl nr” (inspired by a song her dad wrote for her).

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Dating Disasters & Cheating Drama

• [13:19–17:19]
  • Paris admits to being the bigger “flirt” and worse dating history.
  • Nicole recounts her infamous AOL boyfriend cheating on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland.
  • Paris on discovering infidelity:
    • “TMZ.” [15:23]
    • "Just so pissed... how could you humiliate me like this?"
  • Paris routinely ghosted when breaking up after being cheated on; Nicole wanted confrontation: “I wanted it to be like a major motion picture. Like, a punishment, a real thing.” [16:12]
  • Nicole almost fought a girl at a party—turns out they became “loose friends” in college.

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Friendship Dynamics, Types, and Wild Social Schedules

• [17:23–19:09]
  • Never fought over boys—total opposite taste.
  • Nicole liked “people who cheat, I guess,” Paris: “Just people who are cute… or hot.”
  • Nicole (on her “type” as joked on The Simple Life): “Yes, I did say that.” (on dating guys who “looked like they were dying.”)
• [28:09–28:47]
  • Shared wild social calendar: Out almost every night, with a set schedule of clubs and hotspots (“Thursdays was Concord or LAX… Saturdays and Sundays for losers”).

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Paparazzi, Boundary Violations, and Trauma

• [28:50–31:15]
  • Nicole: Once hospitalized after a paparazzi-involved car crash when her son was 6 weeks old.
    • “It was very hard to implement any sort of, like, boundaries because the world was not really acting like you deserved that at all.”
  • Paris: Paparazzi camped at her old house day and night, chased her in convoys, went through her trash, jumped her gate.
    • “It would just get so dangerous… all these strange men just, like, following me all the time or going through my trash or… so invasive.” [30:15]

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Partying with a Ball Python and Pre-Heelys Roller Shoes

• [31:57–33:33]
  • Nicole would roller-skate out wearing shoes with wheels (“pre-Heelys”) and bring her pet python, Cleopatra, as a “necklace” to clubs.
    • “We would come and, like, swoop de doo.”
    • Paris: “They were great for, like, getting away from creepy guys.” [33:13]
  • No one stopped them—“Stopped me from what? Being gorgeous?” — Nicole Richie [32:41]

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Getting in Trouble as Teens, Fake Names, and Growing Up

• [35:23–37:54]
  • Busted in Vegas as tweens, lied about their ages and used classmates’ names (“My name’s Jennifer Pearlstein. Her name is Leslie Sweet.”)
    • Eventually confessed to police, parents were furious.
    • Pulled apart at piano lessons, housekeepers and nannies holding each leg as they reached for each other—visuals straight out of sitcoms.

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The Simple Life: Original Pitch to Reunion

• [38:14–44:49]
  • Original pitch: “They basically just said, we want you to go somewhere and we're gonna take away your phones and your money and credit cards and you're just going to go somewhere.” — Paris Hilton [38:30]
  • They had no idea about the jobs or the full premise until landing in Arkansas.
  • Nicole was a skating school instructor as her one “real” job before the show.
  • Duo performed a song they wrote together at age 7, and Nicole shares that her dad wanted it on his album: “I was like, no, pay me, pay me.” [40:45]

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Falling Out & Media Frenzy

• [41:09–44:49]
  • The infamous falling out during Simple Life Season 4—a common question for both.
  • Nicole and Paris agree: the media’s toxic obsession with feuds blew up a normal friend fight.
  • Paris: “It was mostly just the media just spinning things and creating drama that didn't even exist…” [41:20]
  • Both now say it taught them about communication and boundaries.
  • Reconciled quietly, away from public view—remained friends before the world knew:
    • “We've been friends our entire lives. So, you know, when you're talking about some fight… because ours was a part of a TV show, it just blew up to be something that was so big.” — Nicole Richie

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Simple Life Reunion: How it Came Together

• [44:52–46:33]
  • Paris received a DM from Braxton (the child from original show) announcing he’d passed the bar exam.
  • Led Paris and Nicole to text: “Should we do something?”
  • Private discussions followed—tacos, reflecting on the anniversary, no producers involved at first.
  • First new episode: trip back to Arkansas. Paris says the family’s farm will soon be redone in pink.
  • Paris: “It's going to be soon. We're getting the whole thing redone and pink.” [47:01]

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Reflections on Friendship and Legacy

• [47:11–48:20]
  • Paris on Simple Life: “Most iconic show to ever exist.” [47:11]
  • Both say their friendship has deepened—being able to work, do press, and parent as adults now:
    • Nicole: “Spending time with my friend but also working together, going out into the world and doing press together… it just like makes it like we laugh the whole time.” [48:04]
  • End on warm mutual gratitude and love.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “We would go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores. And we would get, like, ferrets and chinchillas and then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here.” — Nicole Richie [09:20]
• “You just have to say, like, yeah, do it off. I don't care.” (on people blaming them for paparazzi attention) — Nicole Richie [30:07]
• “We would come and, like, swoop de doo.” — Nicole Richie (on wearing roller shoes to the club) [33:13]
• “Stopped me from what? Being gorgeous?” — Nicole Richie [32:41]
• “It was mostly just the media just spinning things and creating drama that didn't even exist, which was normal during the 2000s.” — Paris Hilton [41:20]
• “It's totally. Yeah.” (on how quickly friends make up after fights, compared to media making it huge) — Nicole Richie [44:49]
• “I wish we could just do everything together because it's just so fun…” — Nicole Richie [48:04]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [02:29] Holiday traditions and family hosting
• [03:41] Friends describe each other’s personalities
• [06:37] Childhood together: school, neighborhood, piano teacher
• [08:27] First kisses and wild Vegas teen trips
• [11:25] 2000s wardrobes and twinning
• [13:19] Dating disasters and cheating stories
• [15:23] Paris on finding out about cheating via TMZ
• [16:44] Nicole’s almost-fight at a party (and eventual friendship)
• [28:09] The LA club social schedule
• [28:50] Paparazzi trauma & boundaries
• [31:57] Nightclubs with roller shoes and pythons
• [35:26] Getting caught out in Vegas as teens
• [38:14] Simple Life origin story
• [41:09] Falling out during Simple Life
• [44:52] The reunion special: How they reconnected and planned it
• [47:11] Their view of The Simple Life’s legacy
• [48:04] How their friendship has evolved through adulthood

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Episode Tone & Language

True to Call Her Daddy form, the episode is bold, playful, fast-paced, and unfiltered—a mix of candid reminiscence, self-deprecating humor, and hard-won wisdom. Paris and Nicole joke, finish each other's sentences, and laugh at their own and each other's stories, but also drop hints of vulnerability about fame, friendship, and having grown up in the spotlight.

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This episode is a must-listen for 2000s pop culture fans, reality TV junkies, and anyone fascinated by the complexities of friendship, celebrity, and reinvention. The anticipation for the Simple Life reunion is real, but so is the affection and honesty between the OG BFFs.

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[Nicole Richie]

Thanks, bitch.

[Paris Hilton]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

I am so happy we're finally doing this. I can't.

[Nicole Richie]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

How are you guys doing today?

[Nicole Richie]

I'm doing fab. How are you?

[Interviewer]

You have a heart out.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

When are you leaving?

[Nicole Richie]

At three.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so we have about 12 minutes to go. Here we go. We're gonna. I'm Just kidding. Everyone listening? Calm down. Sit down. Okay. By the time this comes out, Thanksgiving will be over. What are you guys doing for the holidays? Chrismika, New Year's. What are your plans? Are we doing Thanksgiving?

[Nicole Richie]

I host every year. Oh, I do the whole family and everyone's extended families. Friends come over. It's a big thing in my house and I do it every year.

[Interviewer]

Are you cooking?

[Nicole Richie]

I don't cook on Thanksgiving. I cook every other day of the year. I cook 364 days a year, not Thanksgiving.

[Alex Cooper]

Why?

[Nicole Richie]

Because I'm just being a gorge host. And that is a job within itself, love.

[Interviewer]

What about you, Paris?

[Paris Hilton]

I'm gonna be hosting as well at my house this year. So all the family is coming and we're having a big family get together and then we're gonna go to Maui after Christmas.

[Interviewer]

Oh, fun years. Are you cooking?

[Paris Hilton]

No. I love to cook as well, but Thanksgiving is, like, hardcore. That's like, a lot.

[Nicole Richie]

I agree. It's too hardcore. And I'm, like, entertaining people and I've got, like.

[Interviewer]

It's too much.

[Paris Hilton]

I cooked a turkey once on my cooking show, Cooking with Paris, and it was traumatizing. Just like, pulling all the things out of it. Just like.

[Nicole Richie]

Not for you.

[Paris Hilton]

No.

[Interviewer]

We are gonna get to know you guys better today. So, Paris, how would you describe Nicole's personality?

[Paris Hilton]

Nicole is hilarious, fun. No, I was not gonna say that. I was gonna be crazy, but not in a. Not in, like, a bad way. I accept the good way. She's just the most fun person in the world. Like, when you're with her, you just laugh every second. She's so real, she's kind, and she's beautiful.

[Interviewer]

Okay, now, how would you describe Paris?

[Nicole Richie]

I would actually describe you as kind of the same. You're so fun. We always have the most wild time and are always laughing. You are also extremely tender, sentimental, and just like always wanting everyone around you to be happy and stunning. Bitch.

[Paris Hilton]

Thanks.

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Okay, let's go back to your childhood. You guys grew up in the same neighborhood, is that correct?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

And you guys went to the same school?

[Nicole Richie]

Yep.

[Interviewer]

What was your first impression of each other? Do you remember?

[Nicole Richie]

Well, we were two, so I don't know.

[Interviewer]

Two?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes, we've been.

[Interviewer]

I didn't know you guys knew each other since you were 2, and so you guys were just inseparable since the moment. You guys were, like, getting raised together from day one.

[Nicole Richie]

So we went to the same school, but we also. We had the same piano teacher outside of school. We had. We, like, had our tap recital together.

[Paris Hilton]

Orchestra.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God.

[Nicole Richie]

And then we graduated on to orchestra, and we love our orchestra teacher, Mr. Hauser, who's in shout out to Mr. Hauser, who I'm sure watches this all the time. Obviously, he's obsessed with you guys, and he's actually in the encore.

[Interviewer]

Nicole, what do you think your reputation was in your town and at school growing up?

[Nicole Richie]

Okay, well, I did get class clown in both of my schools.

[Interviewer]

Okay, what do you think your reputation

[Paris Hilton]

was just, like, sweet. Yeah, Darling, nice angel never gets in trouble.

[Interviewer]

What do you think the parents in your town thought of you, of, like, all the kids in high school. Were you, like, when you were younger or even in middle school? What were people thinking in middle school?

[Paris Hilton]

Like, Nicole and I were only allowed to sleep at each other's houses. It wasn't like we were ever staying at all the other sleepovers.

[Nicole Richie]

We weren't allowed.

[Paris Hilton]

Okay. We didn't know the parents probably as

[Nicole Richie]

well, because our parents were really strict. Yeah. And they just, like, didn't let us do all the things. And, like, we also used to get treated as one. So, like, if the leader of our group got mad at one of us, both of us were out.

[Interviewer]

That's so nice to have a friend like that where you're like, it's both of us or none of us.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. I mean, we didn't even choose it. It just happened. And then all of a sudden, like, we were back in and we were like.

[Interviewer]

Okay, wait, is it true that you guys had your first kiss at the same party? Yes. Yeah, tell me the story.

[Paris Hilton]

It was at Samantha Vegas Coker's house. Oh, that was the first one. That was the second. The Vegas one.

[Nicole Richie]

Oh, okay.

[Paris Hilton]

Because I remember we were.

[Interviewer]

Did you first kiss in Vegas?

[Nicole Richie]

Second.

[Paris Hilton]

Second. This was like sixth grade and sixth grade.

[Nicole Richie]

Spin.

[Paris Hilton]

Spin the bottle.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

And we both kissed, like, these two best friends.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. Bert and Jared.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

Cute.

[Interviewer]

Bert and Jared. Wait, what age were you for your second kiss?

[Alex Cooper]

Vegas?

[Paris Hilton]

14.

[Interviewer]

You guys are not real. Who the fuck is going to Vegas at 14?

[Paris Hilton]

We were.

[Nicole Richie]

We were.

[Interviewer]

Wait, what were you doing in Vegas?

[Nicole Richie]

We went. This is. Actually, we were not 14. We were. We were younger, but we were.

[Interviewer]

We've been going.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, okay. Her parents were going to Vegas.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nicole Richie]

My parents were getting divorced, and so I, as anyone, you know, up and coming teenager would do. I told my mom I was going to my dad's. I told my dad I was staying with my mom and I went to Vegas and we would, like, her parents would go to parties, and we loved this musical called Starlight Express. And we would sneak into the show and we would just, like, watch it at night. And then during the day, we would take taxis and leave the Strip and go to the Boulevard Mall to the exotic pet stores. And we would get, like, ferrets and chinchillas and then we would sneak them back into California because they're illegal here.

[Interviewer]

Wait, and when did you kiss these? I'm assuming men. Boys.

[Paris Hilton]

They were in Vegas.

[Nicole Richie]

No, they were like.

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah, like 10th grade.

[Interviewer]

How did you meet them in Vegas? From our school at the chinchilla farm.

[Nicole Richie]

No, I Don't think they came with us to. To go get the chinchillas.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So you had a second kiss in Vegas?

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Kind of romantic.

[Nicole Richie]

Very romantic, yes.

[Interviewer]

And was that Burton?

[Paris Hilton]

What was the name?

[Interviewer]

Joe.

[Nicole Richie]

They did not make the trip. No.

[Interviewer]

Okay, who had the stricter parents growing up? I know you're saying they're both strict, but like, who was like really hard to go to whose house to like you, you know you're not sneaking out if you go to X's house.

[Nicole Richie]

Well, I had security at the house, so I've never. I was never. Sneaking out was not even an option.

[Paris Hilton]

That was impossible. Your house. My house was easier. Even though my mom was strict.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

Or no, it was. Your dad's was the easiest.

[Nicole Richie]

My dad's was the easiest.

[Paris Hilton]

He was always like on tour.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, he was gone. So that was fun.

[Interviewer]

The way this is like so casually you realize that childhood is like. You guys have like the craziest, coolest childhoods, right?

[Nicole Richie]

We lived a normal childhood too. Like.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. As you're saying, second kiss in Vegas.

[Nicole Richie]

No.

[Interviewer]

But I think smuggling ferrets.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, I'm gonna play a game with

[Interviewer]

you guys because I think this is gonna like really. We're gonna get to know you a lot here.

[Alex Cooper]

Ready?

[Nicole Richie]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

Who had the better 2000s wardrobe?

[Paris Hilton]

Me.

[Nicole Richie]

2000 and what like I don't know wardrobe too.

[Paris Hilton]

But mine was just like so, so 2000. Like just the so extra of it all.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, you are very 2000s.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

I love it.

[Interviewer]

If you guys had to pick one 2000s trend to wear for the rest of your lives, what would it be?

[Nicole Richie]

I would never do such a thing.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Paris Hilton]

I would wear all my 21st birthday dress love.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I think you said that to me last time. You love that dress.

[Paris Hilton]

I love it.

[Interviewer]

Where is that dress?

[Paris Hilton]

In my closet. Love.

[Interviewer]

How honest were you guys when you were younger with each other when like they had a horrible outfit on.

[Paris Hilton]

I feel like we always looked so hot. And we would dress like twins a lot. Cuz her mom would buy us like two of the same outfit always. And we were like obsessed with doing that back in the day.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. We had to wear uniforms in school. And then the summer program was called summer games. And my mom would buy like six of of the shirts that we would have to wear and she would put shoulder pads in them. This is late 80s shoulder pads in them. And be dazzle them. And so we would like, we would always dress as twins. And then when we were a little bit older, like once we were 11, we would go to Contempo Casuals and Judy's. And our parents would, like, treat us like twins. They would buy us, like, remember the burgundy bell bottom dress? That was so cute. Yes.

[Interviewer]

We. We have to rewind. Why shoulder pads?

[Nicole Richie]

Because it was the 80s and, like, that's just. It was cool. It was very cool. Yes.

[Interviewer]

Who was the bigger shopaholic?

[Nicole Richie]

I would say you're very, like. You're like. Like a little more, like, manic. And you're. You're like. You're like, I want it. All right.

[Paris Hilton]

My ADHD as well. I just.

[Nicole Richie]

I love it all, but I do love to shop.

[Interviewer]

Okay, who has the worst dating history?

[Paris Hilton]

Me.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Does that feel right?

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Who was more delusional over guys when you guys were younger?

[Nicole Richie]

I would say me, because my first real boyfriends aol name was Playa for the number four Life. And I was devastated and shocked to my core when he cheated on me. I couldn't believe it. I was like, where were the signs?

[Interviewer]

Wait, how did you find out he cheated?

[Nicole Richie]

So he cheated on me three times. Once was on the Peter Pan ride at Disneyland. And I know this because every time I ride, I go to myself.

[Interviewer]

What was his handle?

[Nicole Richie]

Playa. Playa for life. P L A Y o [e-mail]. email him.

[Paris Hilton]

Anyone wants to email him.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, email him. I'm sure he's still around. Okay.

[Interviewer]

Peter Pan ride.

[Nicole Richie]

Peter Pan ride. And then one of the girls. So I had, like, heard about it. I asked him. He obviously said no. And then one of the girls was really nice and got on the phone with me and told me, and she was like. He said that you guys were broken up. I'm so sorry. And then this is when. Conference. Conference had just gotten where, like, you could. If you had, like, the elevated conference, you could still get call waiting while you were on conference with somebody else. So we called him on conference. He obviously was like, I'm not. I'm not going to admit anything. And then we had someone call her. So she got a call waiting, flipped to the other call, came back, and then he admitted it.

[Interviewer]

Horrible.

[Nicole Richie]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

You moved on.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, I mean, I moved on, but I was like. It was the. I was really shook. I was like, I cannot believe I got cheated. Getting cheated on sucks.

[Interviewer]

Oh, it's horrible.

[Nicole Richie]

It's horrible.

[Interviewer]

Have you gotten cheated on?

[Paris Hilton]

Every girl has.

[Interviewer]

I know.

[Nicole Richie]

That's really terrible.

[Interviewer]

It's horrible.

[Nicole Richie]

It's horrible.

[Interviewer]

What is a bad way that you found out? So you found out from a girl coming to you? Have you found Out a different way.

[Paris Hilton]

Tmz,

[Interviewer]

Paris. No. Yeah. What do you do when you see that online?

[Paris Hilton]

Just so pissed. Just, like, it's obviously hurts, but also just, like, mad. Just, like, how could you humiliate me like this?

[Interviewer]

Are you a confrontational person where you would be, like, calling them or you're over.

[Paris Hilton]

No, you're done. So I'm, like, done. And then I hate confrontation, so I just would rather never speak to the person. If I would, like, break up with someone, I wouldn't even tell them. I just, like, never. Just like, Ghost.

[Interviewer]

I feel like, Nicole, you're confrontational. No.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. No, I wanted it to be like a major motion picture. Like, a punishment, a real thing.

[Interviewer]

Tell me. Admit it.

[Nicole Richie]

Like, yeah, I was like, I know, but I waited until, like, I. I was. That was fun. Kind of.

[Interviewer]

It is fun when you look back and you're not, like, in the moment. It's fun to look back at the heartbreak, but when you're in it, you're like, no.

[Nicole Richie]

When you're in it, it's so devastating,

[Interviewer]

you can't survive it.

[Alex Cooper]

And it affects you for life completely.

[Nicole Richie]

I actually saw one of the girls at a party, and I was like, you know, you, like, rile yourself up and your friends are like, what are you gonna. What are you gonna do? She's coming. She's coming. And I was like, I'm gonna beat her up.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nicole Richie]

I've never hit anyone in my life. And then, like, finally, like, you know, you're saying it for so long. And then she got there. So the whole party was like, nicole, she's here. She's here.

[Interviewer]

And I was like, ah.

[Nicole Richie]

And I, like, walked up to her. I don't even know what I thought I was gonna do. And her friend literally just went, like, this.

[Interviewer]

Bing.

[Nicole Richie]

And I flew across. Across the party. I'd have a chance. And anyway, we ended up going to college together, so she's my friend, kind of.

[Interviewer]

You're like, bye. Never mind. Wait. Now you're friends? Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

I mean, I haven't seen her in, like, loose. Yeah. Yeah. But if I saw her, I'd be like, oh, my God.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Play up for life.

[Nicole Richie]

Ruined my life for life. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Who was the bigger flirt back then, you think? Yeah, love.

[Nicole Richie]

I would flirt, but it was more to, like, humiliate them. Like, more than, like, an aggressive. Not in, like, a.

[Interviewer]

Like, sweet.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, I wasn't.

[Interviewer]

You're going to ruin your life. And then some. When the two of you guys would be out, like, would you be the person that would go up to the guys. Like, if you're at a club, you guys want to, like, infiltrate a table? Are you going up?

[Paris Hilton]

No. Everyone was trying to infiltrate our table. We didn't have to go up to anyone. They just wanted to come up to us.

[Nicole Richie]

I have to say, our focus wasn't really, like, guys we didn't have to. That was not like. We always just wanted to have fun.

[Interviewer]

Have fun. And then the guys would come and you're like, oh, this is nice. Like, this is a fun little thing.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Did you guys ever fall for the same person or, like, the same person

[Paris Hilton]

ever who's had opposite taste?

[Interviewer]

Okay, tell me. What. What was your type back then?

[Nicole Richie]

People who cheat, I guess. Yeah, assholes, I guess.

[Interviewer]

Play us. What was your type?

[Paris Hilton]

Just people who are cute.

[Interviewer]

Paris.

[Paris Hilton]

Or hot.

[Interviewer]

No, no, no. You think you were dating nice guys.

[Paris Hilton]

No, not like cute. Like. Like looks wise. Just like, just people. People who are hot. And some people were good. But there was. It's la. So.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

You get both.

[Interviewer]

We. Didn't you say once in the simple life that you liked men to look like they were dying?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes, yes, I did say that.

[Interviewer]

If I saw a bunch of, like, people that you talked to when you were younger, like, did they there. Was there a theme of them actually looking, like, skinny and frail and ill?

[Alex Cooper]

No.

[Nicole Richie]

I mean, I. Sadly, I think I just said that to, like, gross Janet out. I don't think I really meant it. Um.

[Interviewer]

I'm obsessed with you. So you weren't. You weren't going for, like, a specific looks wise type?

[Nicole Richie]

No.

[Interviewer]

Um. Whose husband is more likely to crash a girl's night out? Do you guys ever go out together?

[Nicole Richie]

Crash a girls night out? Um, Joel, I think, would get annoyed at, like, so many girls all at one time.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

Carter never goes out, so.

[Interviewer]

So, yeah, I don't. So neither of them are coming.

[Nicole Richie]

I don't think they're coming.

[Interviewer]

Wait, how did you meet Joel?

[Nicole Richie]

A friend set us up. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Wait, had you ever, like, dabbled with musicians at that point?

[Nicole Richie]

No, I had not dabbled with musicians, but our friend set us up. Not in a serious way at all. She was like, you're single and he's single, so this is probably not going to be serious, but you guys should hang out.

[Interviewer]

And

[Nicole Richie]

we did. And I don't know if you've met Joel before. Oh, I think you did, because. Yes, yes. But Joel is very shy. Very shy. So the first night I met him, he actually didn't speak to me and I was like, this is my husband yeah.

[Interviewer]

You're like, this is how I know it's really good.

[Nicole Richie]

I was like, this is the man for me.

[Interviewer]

Stop. And do you think he was into you at first?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes. He ended up texting. Not texting. Yeah. Or email. I don't know. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever was happening back then. Aol. Play it for life.

[Interviewer]

What was your aim?

[Nicole Richie]

Okay.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nicole Richie]

My first name was Princess nr. Because I had a dog named Princess.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nicole Richie]

Then I got a second name. Ballerina Girl nr. Because Ballerina Girl is a song that my dad wrote, and the song is after me, so I just, like, made that my. My name. Okay. So anyway, one day I was like. We were exchanging screen names or whatever, like, to. To, like, a group of friends. And it was. This is like when it was new. So we were, like, calling each other by their names, you know? And I was like. And so, like, we sat there for an hour and everyone was like, okay, later, like, whatever. Whatever. Later. Da, da, da. And I was like. And then they looked at me and they go, see you later, baller. In a girl. And I said, no, whoa, whoa, whoa. Ballerina Girl. I said, I cannot believe for a straight hour you thought that my name was Ballerina Girl. So now some of my friends still call me that.

[Interviewer]

Ballerina Girl.

[Nicole Richie]

Ballerina Girl. That anyone would think that.

[Interviewer]

That. Imagine you calling yourself a baller.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. And honestly, I have ever since.

[Interviewer]

What was yours?

[Paris Hilton]

Beautiful Blonde Baby Girl.

[Interviewer]

Are you fucking lying?

[Paris Hilton]

No.

[Interviewer]

Beautiful Blonde Baby Girl. Yeah. I am obsessed with my email name. Yes.

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah, that's one of them. Other one's Princess Ph. Another one's Barbie 420.

[Interviewer]

So when you. Wait, so you're emailing people and it's like, from Beautiful Blonde Baby Girl. That is like. You have to have some confidence, Paris.

[Paris Hilton]

Yes, love.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, love.

[Interviewer]

Ballerina Girl and Beautiful Blonde. Jesus Christ.

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[Interviewer]

Back to Joel. So you meet him. You're. When did you. When did you meet Joel? Like, when did Paris get introduced?

[Nicole Richie]

Was it the same night? I don't know. I feel like it was like it was around Thanksgiving weekend and it was like pretty fast. I feel like when you met him, it was.

[Interviewer]

What did you think of them together?

[Paris Hilton]

I loved it.

[Interviewer]

You did?

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah. I just thought they were so cute.

[Nicole Richie]

It was on dot com from the day we hung out.

[Paris Hilton]

Like, Joel is so sweet. He's so loyal. Like, he's just one of those types of guys that's like completely different than like an LA guy.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

Love.

[Interviewer]

Were you a fan of Good Charlotte?

[Nicole Richie]

I was a fan of Good Charlotte and he also, when he asked me to go to his house, he hates when I tell this story. He asked me to. He was like, do you want to come? He was like, do you want to come over and like watch tv? And I was like, yeah, I do. And he goes, do you watch the Wire? I've never seen the Wire in my life. I go, the Wire is my favorite show. He goes, great, why don't you come over and watch it now? Listen, obviously the Wire is an amazing show, okay? I'm not dissing the Wire, but I'm upset, okay? I'm a girl. He just like threw me into like season three. There's no music, you know? And I for a very long time pretended like I watched and loved the Wire.

[Interviewer]

When did you break it to him?

[Nicole Richie]

I think like a few years after years. Yeah. We had kids, Nicole. But we have since rewatched The Wire. It's one of. And Joel's from Baltimore. He. Joel's from Maryland.

[Paris Hilton]

So it's.

[Nicole Richie]

It's like, it's one of our go to shows.

[Interviewer]

That's cute.

[Nicole Richie]

But it always reminds me of when we first met because I really threw myself into that show.

[Interviewer]

It is crazy. Like, I have done the same thing where I've, like, lied about liking something for a guy. And I'm like. Then you get yourself into it and

[Nicole Richie]

you're like, I didn't so deep in.

[Interviewer]

Right. You're like, I didn't think it would go this far.

[Alex Cooper]

And then you're like, they're gonna think

[Interviewer]

I'm a full liar if I admit to this. Because, like, I've been watching, like, I'm on the seventh episode and I'm like, oh, my God, he's so funny.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. I didn't know he was gonna say, do you wanna watch it tomorrow? I was like, oh, God. Okay, great.

[Interviewer]

See you there. Paris. What? Have you ever lied to, like, like, something for a guy and then been like, why the did I do that?

[Paris Hilton]

Like, sports sometimes.

[Interviewer]

Are you a big sports person or not at all?

[Paris Hilton]

No, Like, I like playing sports. Like, I like playing ice hockey. I like going to ice hockey games. I just. Some games are boring and I just don't like it.

[Interviewer]

Okay, sorry. Back to my game. Who is throwing the best party?

[Nicole Richie]

I don't really. I don't throw parties. I don't like people in my. Not, like, wild parties like you would throw parties.

[Paris Hilton]

I throw crazy parties.

[Interviewer]

I love you do the time I interview you were setting up for a Christmas part. Oh, my God. That was almost a year ago. How insane is that?

[Paris Hilton]

Times went too fast.

[Interviewer]

You throw great parties. You don't like people.

[Nicole Richie]

I. I throw parties now, but when I was younger, I did not throw, like, wild parties at my house.

[Interviewer]

Because you just didn't want people around you in your house?

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, I didn't want anyone, like, stealing my things or anything.

[Interviewer]

You don't care if people are, like, wandering in your house?

[Paris Hilton]

No, I don't want people stealing my things either, but sometimes people do. There's, like, people have literally taken, like, framed photos and put them in their purses. My security is, like, went up to them, been like, excuse me, can I have that?

[Interviewer]

Dude, that's fucking insane. People, like, feel. And especially if people, like, get a drink in them, they feel like, I love this place. And they start, like, doing weird shit in your house.

[Paris Hilton]

That and, like, lighting cigarettes, like, ashing all over the floor. I'm like, Are you.

[Interviewer]

You're like, I have children that live here. Like, no, no, no. That's not the vibe. Okay. Which one of you is more likely when you were younger to, like, pull through with plans for the night? You're like, I've got the spot. I know where we're going.

[Paris Hilton]

It was like a schedule.

[Nicole Richie]

It was a schedule.

[Interviewer]

Can you do the schedule?

[Paris Hilton]

Like, Mondays was Joseph's right. What is. Tuesdays was like, guys. Wednesdays was Las Palmas. Thursdays was, like, Concord or lax.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Paris Hilton]

There was just all these clubs. It was like a sketch.

[Nicole Richie]

Just go, like, where all your friends went, and that's what we would do.

[Interviewer]

Would you guys go out every single night?

[Paris Hilton]

Not Saturdays and Sundays.

[Nicole Richie]

Those days are for losers.

[Interviewer]

What we. Saturday and I feel like Saturday is, like, the night. No, that's Loserville. What was the best night to go out?

[Nicole Richie]

Thursday. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Learning so much. Nicole, what is your wildest interaction with paparazzi?

[Nicole Richie]

Once I was hospitalized, I got crashed into.

[Interviewer]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God. You were driving and someone crashed into you?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

I'm so sorry.

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

My son was, like, 6 weeks old. He was not in the car. Thank God.

[Interviewer]

Thank God.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

When you look back at that, like, how do you feel about that time in your life?

[Nicole Richie]

I feel like at the time, you. It was very hard to implement any sort of, like, boundaries because the world was not really acting like you deserved that at all. And I was so young and just, like, didn't know how to stand up for myself like that. So I was just, like. I was just. I. Like. I accepted a lot more, which I think is very common for your 20s, of just, like, accepting that. Things that. That I would never accept.

[Interviewer]

Now, that's traumatizing. I know. Obviously, like, you've talked about it occasionally of, like. Well, not occasionally a lot. Like, you've been very outspoken in a good way. Of, like, this is really dangerous of, like, what those people were doing back in the day. And then it's kind of fucked up when people are like, yeah, but you guys were asking for it. Like, you loved it. Like, what do you say to that?

[Nicole Richie]

I don't say. I'm like, if that's what you want to believe, yeah, do it off. I don't care.

[Interviewer]

What is one of the crazier experiences you've had with paparazzi?

[Paris Hilton]

Well, just when I used to live on Kings Road, like, right above Sunset Plaza, they would just wait outside my house from morning till night and just follow me from the second I woke up till I went home at night, and there would be some times where I would. Wanting to go to a friend's house, and I didn't want them knowing their address. So I would literally be driving, like, a hundred miles per hour just trying to get away from them. There'd be 20 cars all chasing me. And I just remember just, like, sometimes turning around, just being like, guys, like, leave me the fuck alone. And they would just not stop. So that would just drive me crazy because it would just get so dangerous with, like, all these, like, strange men just, like, following me all the time or, like, going through my trash or people, like, jumping over the gate and just, like. It was just so invasive all the time.

[Interviewer]

No, that, like, creates, like, an intense form of paranoia, I'm sure. Like, you can't. You have to worry about what you put in your trash.

[Paris Hilton]

Everything. Just, like, them shooting through the windows. Just, like. It was just creepy. I'm so happy I live in a gated community now, because it's just like,

[Interviewer]

in your gated community, when I tried to find your house, Paris, there's no cell service there. And I literally like, hello. And then I'm like, this freak driving down. There's, like, a man, like, walking dog. I was like, I'm trying to go to Paris Hilton's house. He's like, we've got a freak on the loose. He probably thought I was, like, breaking it. No, your house is. You are. You're good to go. You're safe. Okay. Sorry to bring that down for a second, but it is interesting to hear about, like, what you guys had to go through. Okay, I know this is, like, vague, but if you can try to give the Daddy gang a story, what do you think is one of the most iconic nights out that you guys had together? When you look back and you're like, fuck, that was insane. Like, the two of us went all out. It was so fun, or something horrible happened or something disastrous or fun or funny, like, anything.

[Nicole Richie]

We did go through a stage where we would wear shoes with wheels on them, and we would roller skate all night. And I. This was at the same time I had my ball python, Cleopatra, and she would come with me as well.

[Interviewer]

What?

[Nicole Richie]

So I had a ball python. Her name was Cleopatra. She was gorge. And I would wear her around my neck like a necklace. And we'd put on our shoes with wheels, and we would, like, roller skate all night.

[Interviewer]

Would you go out with this with Cleopatra?

[Nicole Richie]

Of course.

[Interviewer]

You would go in public with a snake around you as a choker?

[Nicole Richie]

Yes. Like a little Collar. Like a collar necklace.

[Interviewer]

Wait, and no one stopped you?

[Nicole Richie]

Stopped me from what? Being gorgeous?

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God. You never were like, oh, my God, my python is about to rip the necks of everyone around me.

[Nicole Richie]

No, no, she. No, she loved being with me. She was so. I miss her.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so are you. You're talking about heelys, right? Or. No, these are different.

[Nicole Richie]

No, this is like pre Heelys.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

You were whipping. Would you ever wear them to the club?

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

[Interviewer]

You're in the club with Healy.

[Nicole Richie]

Basically, yes.

[Paris Hilton]

Because you could press the button and they would go in and out.

[Nicole Richie]

They were just like. Yeah. So we would come and, like, swoop de doo.

[Paris Hilton]

They were great for, like, getting away from creepy guys.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, you'd be like, oh, I'll be right back. And then

[Interviewer]

you're like, one T. Dude, that's insane. I can't imagine wearing those to a club.

[Paris Hilton]

We were professionals.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. We were just really good at it.

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[Interviewer]

Did you ever get in trouble by your parents together?

[Nicole Richie]

In Vegas when we were 11.

[Interviewer]

In Vegas when you were 11?

[Paris Hilton]

Well, no, we were like 11 and a half. We were like 13. And we were with these guys and they're like, do you want to go to the Strip? And it was New Year's Eve and we were like, okay. So we were on the Las Vegas strip. Then these cops came up to us and they're like, how old are you? And we're like 21. And they're like, no, let's see your IDs. How old are you really? And we're like 18. And he's like, how old are you really? What's your names? And I was like, my name's Jennifer Pearlstein. Her name is Leslie Sweet. And they were just like, where are you staying? And they kept asking us a million questions. And then Nicole's like, actually. And you told on us.

[Nicole Richie]

Well, because they were like, if you don't. I actually don't think we said 21. I think we said, we're 15. Because we in our minds thought that was

[Paris Hilton]

yes. And we didn't have fake IDs.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah. And so they were like. They were like, what's your name? I think you said Jenny Stone because we went to school with her.

[Interviewer]

Stop. Poor Jenny. Your parents are getting a call.

[Nicole Richie]

And they were like, we're going to arrest you if you don't tell us your parents names. So then they came. Your parents came, they got us. Your dad, who's the kindest, sweetest, most soft spoken man, turned to us. I'll never forget it. And he goes, I knew this was a bad idea. Like, screaming at us. He's like, I knew this was a bad idea. Da, da da. You lied to us. Da da. And you are never hanging out again. Cut to the simple life. We got separated a lot. Remember when I had a piano. My piano lesson at my house? And I, like, didn't want. They were like, okay, it's time for. Because we were always at each other's houses. So it was like, okay, it's time for the piano lesson. You guys have to stop. Paris has to go home. And we were like, no, we don't want to. And so we were holding hands and they were like, come on, guys, come on. And My nanny, like, was pulling me and like my housekeeper was pulling her. And then we grabbed this hand and this hand and someone was holding our legs up so we were just like flying parallel to the floor.

[Paris Hilton]

I'll never forget that.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, that was so fun.

[Paris Hilton]

So fun.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, I can. The fact that you guys like. No, we're 15. Meanwhile, that's like old in your mind. You're 11. Paris is like. No, I think we were like 11,

[Paris Hilton]

but we didn't do anything.

[Nicole Richie]

We weren't literally anything. We were just out past curfew.

[Alex Cooper]

Classic.

[Paris Hilton]

Just like.

[Interviewer]

Except you're on the Vegas strip.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah, but we were just like being cute and we wanted to go to the Mirage and see the tigers.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

Classic.

[Interviewer]

Classic. Okay, I have to ask though, because you just mentioned your dad being like, we're. You're never doing that again. Cut to the Simple Life. Why we're here. Obviously, aside from like, I love you guys. Let's talk about the Simple Life. We're getting an encore. We're getting a three part series. We're getting. What do we want to call it?

[Nicole Richie]

I call it a reunion special.

[Paris Hilton]

Love.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay, can we go back to the first original before we get to the reunion? Because obviously the original was so iconic. Paris, can you talk to me about, like, how was the show originally pitched to you of like the Simple Life? Cause it is so iconic and will be forever iconic.

[Paris Hilton]

They didn't tell me where we were gonna go. They basically just said, we want you to go somewhere and we're gonna take away your phones and your money and credit cards and you're just going to go somewhere. And they didn't say anything. Like, they didn't say, like, you're going to be working jobs. Like, I don't. How did they. It was just like, you're gonna go somewhere, take away everything. Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

They told us nothing.

[Paris Hilton]

Nothing. We didn't know we were flying, like even on the jet flying over there. They didn't tell us. We're just.

[Nicole Richie]

We didn't know until we landed.

[Interviewer]

Wait, so hold on. Producers pitch you this idea and you two do it together and you're both like, sounds good. And you get on a private plane. Yeah. And you fly to. What was the first place you went?

[Paris Hilton]

Arkansas.

[Interviewer]

Arkansas.

[Paris Hilton]

Altus Love.

[Interviewer]

And you then just start filming.

[Nicole Richie]

We start filming the moment we got on the plane, I think.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, interesting.

[Interviewer]

Okay.

[Nicole Richie]

Or I think the night before because we had a goodbye party.

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah, the goodbye party. And they're filming like packing and all that.

[Interviewer]

Now, obviously the premise is you Guys like doing like jobs each episode and you're like, doing a job. Had you guys ever had a real job prior to that?

[Nicole Richie]

No.

[Paris Hilton]

No. You were a fig.

[Nicole Richie]

I was a. I was a skating school instructor and I was very good.

[Interviewer]

You were?

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Love that for you.

[Nicole Richie]

Thank you.

[Interviewer]

Okay, you guys have a little song that you liked to sing throughout filming. Can you guys remind us of how it goes?

[Nicole Richie]

Okay, well, let me just tell you, this song is beautiful. And I did talk to you about all of our musical talents, but what I didn't say is that we wrote this song ourselves when we were seven, if you can believe it.

[Interviewer]

I mean, the talent in this room, it's really.

[Nicole Richie]

I have chills just from talking about it.

[Interviewer]

Okay, I'm going to close my eyes. Come on, give me a little tune. Ready?

[Paris Hilton]

The. The ending can get pretty loud sometimes.

[Nicole Richie]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

So you wrote this when you're seven, can you die? I mean, it's kind of like beautiful work of art.

[Paris Hilton]

It is.

[Interviewer]

What did your dad say when he heard it for the first time?

[Nicole Richie]

He was like jealous and wanted to put it on his album. And I was like, no, pay me, pay me.

[Interviewer]

Let me. Before I want to actually talk about this. You guys stopped talking at one point. I don't know if this is a sort topic, but I have to ask about it. You guys were like not filming together in season four for the Simple Life, right? What the happened? Be real with me. Don't give me a PR answer. You little.

[Nicole Richie]

It's not going to be good enough for you. Because it really isn't. Like it's never good enough for people.

[Interviewer]

Okay, what happened?

[Nicole Richie]

It's not even like there's nothing. Nothing really happened. I mean. Go ahead.

[Paris Hilton]

Back then, the media was just so toxic and I. They loved starting feuds between people because obviously that sold tabloids. So it was mostly just the media just spinning things and creating drama that didn't even exist, which was normal during the 2000s. They did it with everyone.

[Nicole Richie]

It's that combined with like. And we are in our 20s and we had no time. Like, it wouldn't happen now because, you know, I think like, we. We were just so young that we didn't even know like how to communicate with. With each other. So like, you know, if we were hearing something, we just would assume. Is that true? Is that not true? And we didn't have the communication skills that we have now to like have check ins, which is so important.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, no, I can see that. Like you guys seeing things in tabloids and it like, obviously I Feel like whenever there's a duo, people want to break a duo up and it's like pitting each other, each other like who's better at this and who's better at this. And it's like. Does it make you sad when you look back that it like the media with your guys relationship that heavily?

[Nicole Richie]

It makes me, yes. I mean it makes me sad. Like whatever. I don't care about the media. It makes me like sad to think about a time without my friend. I think that it has really helped me in my communicating at this point stage in my life. Yeah. And you know, I think just with all relationships, like it's so important to have check ins and to be honest and real and you know, tender with the people that you love the most. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

I mean I think that's even applicable to like social media. Like I bet people see in college or high school or whatever you're like, oh my God, this friend went to this party and I didn't get invited. And everything can be misconstrued because we're posting like half versions of what's going on. And you can feel so upset and frustrated if you're not included in something or you hear a rumor from someone and it's like half of it is usually never true. Who reached out first to clear the air? How did you guys like come back together?

[Nicole Richie]

We were friends for a long time before anyone even knew because our, our families are friends.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Nicole Richie]

You know, and so like, like we've been, we've been friends our entire lives. So you know when you're taught like, and I don't mean to belittle it at all, but when you're like talking about some fight, like I watch, you know, I watch it with like other 20 year olds that I know and they're, they're like going through a little thing and then they're back. Going through a little thing and then they're back. But because ours was a part of a TV show, it just blew up to be something that was so big.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Nicole Richie]

That it became impossible to like connect to or have any sort of like real like feeling around it. You know, because like it just became so, and, and and is like, you know, we're sitting here talking about it now, you know, and I'm like, yeah. Like I, there's nothing that like lives in the, on the surface in me. Like I, you know, I have to really like, I don't know, it was just, it be. It became something that was like otherworldly.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. It was like bigger Than you guys were like, wait, we're back as friends and people like me still asking you about it to this day, because again, I think the media makes it like they had the biggest falling out. And you guys. Yeah, we got, like in a fight. And then as friends, we got back together. Like, me, my best friend will fight and be like, okay, what time are we getting dinner?

[Nicole Richie]

It's totally. Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Okay, that makes sense. Okay, so you guys are back.

[Alex Cooper]

Tell me everything.

[Interviewer]

How did you guys decide to do this three part series? Like, tell me everything.

[Paris Hilton]

It was during Christmas last year. Was last year?

[Nicole Richie]

I think so.

[Paris Hilton]

Yeah, last year. And we were texting and I was like, can you believe it's about to be the 20th anniversary of the Simple Life? Like, that's so crazy. And I had gotten a DM from Braxton, who's the little boy. He was like the little three year old on the show. And he was telling me that he had just passed the bar exam and he's now a lawyer. So I was sending Nicole the message from him and just reminiscing with her.

[Interviewer]

Oh, my God.

[Nicole Richie]

And then, and we, we were, you know, I mean, this is, this is all over text. So I said, should we do something? And Paris wrote back, should we? And. And I said, okay, let's. Let's talk about it. Let's talk about it over, over the new year. I mean, it was the first time that I think we both really, like, considered because we both have had people come to us and be like, do you want to do it again? And we're like, no. What? You can't do that again. It's not realistic, you know, and no, that time was so special and it just was. And it was really nice, like, because there wasn't anyone else on the call. It was just the two of us. And for that, I would say two weeks where it was like just us. Carter and Joel knew you came over, we had tacos, and we just like talked about if we were to celebrate, you know, the 20 year anniversary, what would that look like? And you know, that, that, that part was very nice. I mean, the whole thing's been nice, but, like, that part was very special because no one even knew.

[Interviewer]

Well, I think, like, that's why we're also excited is it's like to see you guys back on camera together. And even though it's just like a three part series, that's like more than we could have ever asked for because I think people never thought we were going to get that again. So thank you guys for Doing that for all of us. We and you. For the first episode. You fly back to Arkansas.

[Paris Hilton]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Can I say on sliving air, is that a thing? Slither, slither. I asked everyone is it pink or. No, you're playing.

[Paris Hilton]

It's going to be soon. We're getting the whole thing redone and pink.

[Interviewer]

I'm obsessed. What do you think the Simple Life legacy is going to be the most

[Paris Hilton]

iconic show to ever exist.

[Interviewer]

Wrapping up because I know you have to fucking go. You're like 12 minutes are up. Can you talk to me a little bit though about like how your guys friendship has evolved over time? Because obviously you guys saying like you met at 2 years old, you were friends all through basically like your whole life on and off in moments, obviously as friends do now doing this again together like you're both moms.

[Alex Cooper]

How has your relationship evolved?

[Nicole Richie]

It's been amazing. I mean it's just been. We were talking about even before we started and you were like, how has it been, you know, doing press, you know, with, with like your friend and just the whole thing and it's just been so amazing. It really has. Like spending time with my friend but also working together, going out into the world and doing press together, which is a very nerve wracking thing.

[Interviewer]

Yes.

[Nicole Richie]

And it's been so nice. I was talking to you about it last weekend. I was saying I wish we could just do everything together because it's just so fun and like, you know, it just like makes it like we laugh the whole time.

[Interviewer]

No. I'm so happy that I got to sit down with you guys.

[Paris Hilton]

We love you.

[Nicole Richie]

Love you.

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