Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Call Her Daddy – "Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)"

Release Date: March 14, 2025
Host: Alex Cooper
Guest: Rob, former Love Island contestant

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Introduction

In the March 14, 2025 episode of Call Her Daddy, host Alex Cooper sits down with Rob, a recent contestant from the popular reality TV show Love Island. Titled "Rob’s Love Island Tell All (FBF)," the episode delves deep into Rob's experiences on the show, his personal reflections, and the aftermath of his reality TV stint. Skipping over the usual advertisements and intros, this summary focuses solely on the heart-to-heart conversation between Alex and Rob, capturing their candid discussions, emotional insights, and Rob's journey toward self-awareness.

Rob’s Adjustment to the Real World

Rob opens up about his transition from the vibrant, neon-lit environment of the Love Island villa back to everyday life. He describes acclimating to the darkness outside the villa compared to the constant brightness he was used to.

Rob [04:57]: "It's really, really strange. One of the big things is, like, neon isn't on everything. Like, neon signs, like, the lights there. I got really used to just seeing that every day."

Upon receiving his phone back after elimination, Rob immediately reached out to his family, expressing his relief and happiness.

Rob [05:30]: "I called my family. They gave me my phone on the way to the airport... they were so happy to see me. And they seemed like, 'We're so proud of you.' It was a big relief."

Relationship Dynamics in the Villa

Rob discusses his initial connection with Leah, the first person he coupled up with on day one, and how their relationship was perceived both inside and outside the villa.

Rob and Leah

From the outset, Rob felt a strong bond with Leah, characterized by mutual understanding and affection. However, their relationship faced challenges, especially after Andrea entered the villa.

Rob [19:09]: "I really liked her a lot... from the first night when I walked in there, we just kept like locking eyes."

The dynamics turned tumultuous when Leah confronted Rob about his interactions with Andrea, leading to emotional confrontations and misunderstandings.

Rob [25:24]: "I was trying to be really, really calm... and then I started crying and I was like, bro, what the are you doing?"

Rob and Andrea

After Leah's elimination, Rob formed a brief romantic connection with Andrea. Despite the whirlwind four days they spent together, Rob admits to regrets about how things unfolded.

Rob [47:20]: "I was like, things with Andrea are really great. It was an amazing four days we had... I was smitten."

However, the abrupt end of Andrea's time on the show left Rob reflecting on his actions and their impact.

Rob [51:57]: "I regret it. I wish I wouldn't have said it, but in that moment, that's what I was doing."

Communication and Emotional Challenges

A recurring theme throughout the conversation is Rob's struggle with communication and processing his emotions. He acknowledges his difficulty in expressing feelings and maintaining open dialogues, which often leads to misunderstandings.

Rob [35:20]: "I have an issue with letting people in and letting my walls down... I struggle with communication."

Rob emphasizes the need for solitude to process his emotions, a coping mechanism that sometimes hinders his relationships.

Rob [42:49]: "I really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling... journaling helps a lot."

Reflections on Past Relationships

Rob delves into his past relationships, particularly his toxic college romance marked by constant breakups and questionable trust issues, such as going through each other's phones.

Rob [62:21]: "My first college girlfriend... we broke up a million times. Got together a million times."

He attributes much of his relational turmoil to his inability to communicate effectively and his protective nature, which sometimes borders on jealousy.

Rob [63:53]: "I'm more of a protective jealous... I'll kind of make it known."

Personal Growth and Future Plans

Rob is candid about his need for personal growth, admitting that he might benefit from therapy to address his emotional baggage and communication flaws.

Rob [38:58]: "I think I need therapy... I'm not in love with myself. I really need to get over that."

Looking ahead, Rob expresses a desire to continue his passion for snake catching and possibly seizing opportunities that align with his interests, though he remains uncertain about his future in reality TV.

Rob [86:43]: "They've asked me a lot... think I'm just going to keep catching snakes... maybe, like, whatever."

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with Rob reflecting on his journey through Love Island, acknowledging both the highs and lows, and expressing a commitment to personal improvement. Alex Cooper commends Rob for his honesty and self-awareness, emphasizing the value of accountability in relationships.

Alex Cooper [41:19]: "I think people will appreciate, Rob, that you're like, you do take accountability in what you're saying."

Rob concludes by reiterating his pursuit of healthier relationships and his contentment with current friendships, highlighting the importance of genuine connections.

Rob [71:03]: "I think we will be amazing friends. And I'm happy with it. Like, I would be content being friends with her."

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Notable Quotes

• Rob [05:35]: "They were all like, 'We're so proud of you. You did so good. You were yourself the whole time.' And I was like, oh, what a relief."

• Rob [12:28]: "Communication largely."

• Rob [36:06]: "I feel like I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart."

• Rob [38:43]: "Why do I think that is? I think I have... I think I need therapy."

• Rob [57:45]: "It's all drama. To me, that's drama."

• Rob [77:38]: "I'm a lot better than I used to be. I used to be, like, really bad."

Final Thoughts

Rob's candid revelations offer listeners a profound look into the complexities of reality TV relationships and the personal struggles that often lie beneath the surface. His journey underscores the importance of effective communication and self-awareness in fostering healthy relationships. Alex Cooper skillfully navigates the conversation, allowing Rob to express his vulnerabilities while providing insightful commentary on his growth and future aspirations.

For those intrigued by Rob's story and seeking more personal anecdotes, joining the Daddy Gang on Instagram at @callherdaddy provides continued access to exclusive content and community discussions.

Transcript

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[Alex Cooper]

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[Alex Cooper]

Rob. Welcome to Call Her Daddy. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Rob. Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob, Rob. I feel like so many women around the world right now have so many feelings and emotions towards you. So today we're gonna really peel back the onion and we're gonna get into it.

[Rob]

So that's good, that's good. Good luck.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

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[Alex Cooper]

So you just got off the plane from Fiji. You came directly here after getting eliminated. How has it been, like, acclimating to the real world?

[Rob]

It's really, really strange. One of the big things is, like, neon isn't on everything. Like, neon signs, like, the lights there. I got really used to just seeing that every day. I got to my hotel room and I was, like, so dark in here.

[Alex Cooper]

I had to, like, pause. I didn't know what you were fucking saying. You're saying, like, the way the villa looks is so bright.

[Rob]

Used to it. You get used to, like, just being around, like, literally there's a neon sign on every surface. Like, it's like, lights up.

[Alex Cooper]

Right?

[Rob]

And I got out and I was like, it's so dark out here.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. That's not kind of what I was asking, though. I just. I don't know when you got Your phone back.

[Rob]

Oh, right.

[Alex Cooper]

How did you, like, handle all of it? Like, what did you first do when you got your phone?

[Rob]

I called my family.

[Alex Cooper]

You called your family?

[Rob]

I called my family. They gave me my phone on the way to the airport, and I knew I was going to have service, so I called my family in, like, a group chat. FaceTime, you know?

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Immediately, I saw all their faces, and I was really nervous because I was, like, I was either worried that they were going to be like, hey, Robert, how are you? But they were all like, hey. Like, they were so happy to see me. And they seemed like. They're like, we're so proud of you. Like, you did so good. You were yourself the whole time. And I was like, oh, what a relief.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, because you thought there was a chance they were going to be like, you ruined her family's reputation. You dragged our name through the.

[Rob]

Well, I just didn't know. Like, I didn't know because, like, it's a TV show, right? Yeah, I know what happened. I was there.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I knew that I was authentic the whole time. Right. But it can get clipped and it can get edited and, like. Yeah, you know.

[Alex Cooper]

Have you checked your DMs yet? What's going on in there? Rob?

[Rob]

It's honestly, like, at this point, like, too much to even. It's just a refresh, and then it's like a new page.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you have any, like, celebs in there?

[Rob]

I had a really good conversation with Noah from Stranger Things.

[Alex Cooper]

That's so random.

[Rob]

I. You want to hear what I said to him? I said the funniest thing back, and I think it went over his head, but it was so funny. And then we just talked about the show, like, he was just a big fan. And I just talked to him about it. Oh, wait, should I not say it? Well, he just said.

[Alex Cooper]

He just.

[Rob]

It was fine. He said, I love you on online, on Love Island. You stole my heart. And I said, thank you so much. I love Stranger Things. Thank you, Noah Schnapp from the hit TV show Stranger Things about response. I thought it'd be really funny. And he just said, thanks, Rob. You and Lee should have won. And then we just talked about the show for a while.

[Alex Cooper]

Is that, like, so surreal that, like, you have someone like that in your DMs?

[Rob]

Yeah. It was also worse that, like, I just didn't even think about it. And I was talking to him, and then my sister was like, what are you doing? I was like, I'm actually having just a casual conversation with the Guy from Stranger Things right now. But it was funny.

[Alex Cooper]

Have any women slid in?

[Rob]

A few, I'm pretty sure, yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Any that you're like, oh, well, I.

[Rob]

Think right now, at this point in time, I'm. I'm pretty, like, emotionally drained. I don't know if I'm ready for.

[Alex Cooper]

You're not ready?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

But, like, good to know they're there.

[Rob]

Whatever you want to call it.

[Alex Cooper]

I saw that everyone was, like, up in arms on the Internet about. You got out of the villa, and you followed Leah, and then eventually you followed all of the rest and Andrea and all of them. Yeah, but does it freak you out that, like, all everyone is, like, seeing everything you're doing, or do you love the attention? Come on, Rob. Look what you're wearing. You love the attention.

[Rob]

I had to wear them. Okay. Don't come for the overalls. I had to wear them. I saw the memes and everything, and I was like, bro. I was like, you know, might as well.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, first, talk to me about the overalls for a second. So you did bring other clothes, obviously, but, like, was this the first thing you packed?

[Rob]

No, I didn't even plan on wearing these, so I brought these. So Love Island, Usually the intro is you're, like, doing your job, and you get a text. You're like, oh, time to go to the villa. So I was. That. That's what these were for.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, do you wear these when you wrangle the snakes?

[Rob]

Sometimes, yeah. Often. Sometimes. Yeah. So. So, yeah, so I brought them for that part.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

And then I was like, ah, it. So I just threw them in the villa bag that goes in, and then I wore them, and I was like, dude, this is the move, because Fiji's really hot, right? And I didn't have to wear a shirt. Basically, it was like, pants, a little bib, but it's very breathable. It was comfortable.

[Alex Cooper]

But were you feeling yourself in it, too? Like, did you think the ladies were going to love the overalls?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

No.

[Rob]

Definitely not. They. They didn't like them there. Like. Okay, it wasn't a no.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you currently doing Dion D?

[Rob]

Currently, I'm not Dion D. And what.

[Alex Cooper]

Is Dion D To people that maybe didn't watch the season of Love Island?

[Rob]

Dion D is dick on denim.

[Alex Cooper]

And can you talk about that? Because it feels a little bit masochistic. It feels a little bit like rug burn. Do you know?

[Rob]

No, no, no. It's not like that. You should. Well, you can't try it, but. Oh. I would encourage anyone out there to try D. It's. Yeah, you're penis less, so it's not going to work for you, but it's breathable and like, it's just nice.

[Alex Cooper]

Why did you choose to wear underwear today?

[Rob]

Well, we're about lucky underwear. Thought I might need it.

[Alex Cooper]

What is your lucky underwear? You don't need to show me. You don't show me.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. So that kind of sounds like a little bit of a kink. Like you like your dick on denim. What is some like, weird shit that you like in the bedroom that's maybe a little like unexpected, expected.

[Rob]

I'm not going to tell you that.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, you have to.

[Rob]

Oh, okay. I didn't know that.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, that's what call her daddy is. You have to tell me what's something like a little like off the beaten path that you like in the bedroom.

[Rob]

Off the beaten path. What? Come on.

[Alex Cooper]

Go on. These are. This is what the ladies want.

[Rob]

Like, but you.

[Alex Cooper]

Everyone in America knows you. You. You just met me. I know you.

[Rob]

You don't. You think you know me?

[Alex Cooper]

I know you.

[Rob]

You know my story.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no.

[Rob]

You know I named my story, but you don't know me.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no. I saw you in. I've seen you in your cowboy outfit. I know you're getting up to some kinky shit in there.

[Rob]

I mean, you're not lying.

[Alex Cooper]

No.

[Rob]

Like, I don't really want to talk about it.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, okay, give me like a little hint.

[Rob]

I like to have sex.

[Alex Cooper]

Rob.

[Rob]

I like sex.

[Alex Cooper]

Did it in the beginning of the villa. You, I think with Andrea, you looked at her and you were like, I'm sorry. Like, I haven't ejaculated in a really long time. Like, I'm having a hard time like that.

[Rob]

You don't understand. I saw a clip of that and. And I think that really was a part of why I was so emotional. Going into Love island is crazy. You don't understand. You're on no sleep.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

You have no alone time, which is huge for me because that's how I process my emotions. I have to be alone.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

So I couldn't figure my out. And also I was horny as well.

[Alex Cooper]

You eventually came. We'll talk about that. Okay. Are you enjoying the attention or is it freaking you out?

[Rob]

It's freaking me out.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, what is the biggest turn off to you?

[Rob]

Bad breath.

[Alex Cooper]

Did someone have bad breath in the villa?

[Rob]

I'm not. Yeah, but I'm not telling you.

[Alex Cooper]

No. And did everyone know about it?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

Only you?

[Rob]

No, it wasn't in the villa. I can't Say it anymore.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, moving on. All right. How do you think the women obviously, like, everyone's having feelings about you as you've gotten your phone. How do you think the women are feeling about you in America?

[Rob]

Okay. Basically, I'm a toxic gaslighter, but I'm hot enough that it doesn't matter. That's like the. That's it. That's the consensus I've gotten. I've seen so many tiktoks of like, this man is a red flag. He's terrible. I hate him. I can't stop looking at him. I love him so much. Like, it's like, just weird.

[Alex Cooper]

How does it make you feel?

[Rob]

I feel like it's not true, but it kind of true. I'm not. I don't feel like. I guess I don't feel like.

[Alex Cooper]

I don't feel like I do, but maybe I do. I don't know.

[Rob]

That's exactly how I feel. I haven't processed it right. Like I did. I do everything right. Absolutely not right. I make mistakes. 100. Do I regret things I did? I think every decision I made I would have eventually made. I think I was put in these, like, small time frames or my issue was my communication.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

And it partly was because I didn't know how I was feeling.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. To your credit, I will say to you, I feel like you were up front at all times with everyone. And maybe you weren't like the most articulate in like, long form sentences about it, but you did tell people up front how you were feeling in moments, definitely. Even if it upset people, which I feel like there were other people in the villa that like, would skirt around the truth because they knew it was gonna hurt someone. Really. It's like, just tell people the fucking truth so you don't look like a piece of shit because all of this is on camera. You know what I mean? Exactly. Okay. I agree with you on the conflicted thing. I think people are like, I'm in love with him, but I feel like he'd break my heart. Slash, maybe he's a little bit of a red. What is it like to date you, Rob? Take us through the journey. Like, what do you think it's like to date you?

[Rob]

I don't love people.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I'm not a people person, but I love my friends. How do I get into this? Okay, let's say. All right, let's say we're gonna go on a date.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Let's just say first date.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I would, like, prefer to do something where it's Just the two of us and, like, quiet. We get to know each other. Like, I'm not, like, a big concert guy. I don't like going to the club. I'll go to a bar. But even then, I'm like, there's too many people here.

[Alex Cooper]

Huh. So what's your ideal first date?

[Rob]

I would say, like, a picnic.

[Alex Cooper]

Picnic.

[Rob]

I like a good picnic.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Go to the creek. Go to the river or the beach.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Bodies of water are typically good for picnics.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I find.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Okay. I guess. If all of your exes were in this room right now, what would they say about you?

[Rob]

I think the. My last girlfriend would have a lot of good things to say and a lot of bad things to say. The one before that. Same, I think. Same, I think. I think with my last relationship, I mean, I don't want to talk too much because, like, that's her business, too. But, like, I think the wheels kind of fell off at the end, and it went longer than it should have. And I think that was, like, really. It came down to, like, communication, and. And I think it was hugely on me. And it's like, one of my biggest regrets is, like, putting her through the months of, like, the end of our relationship. Like. Yeah. Because I did love her, and, like, I. I fully believe she loved me, too. And it was like just knowing you did that to someone that you care about.

[Alex Cooper]

What? You just, like, weren't communicating with her, how you were feeling.

[Rob]

I. I just was like, depress.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

And that's not an excuse.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

When you care about somebody, you still have to, like, figure that out. But, like, I. I didn't know how I felt about myself, and I just couldn't give her what she needed, and I just should have walked away way sooner.

[Alex Cooper]

How long was that relationship?

[Rob]

It was about two years.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Is that your long one and off? Like, we broke up, we got back together.

[Alex Cooper]

It was one of those.

[Rob]

It wasn't a lot. I think we broke up twice.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

But, like, yeah, it wasn't, like, back.

[Alex Cooper]

And forth, back and forth. How long has been your longest relationship? That. Okay. So it was communication largely. Okay, we'll get back to that. This was not your first time on Love Island. You were in Casa Amore last season, but you didn't make it out of the villa. Why did you want to go back to the show?

[Rob]

I just. They called me. They said, what are you doing? And I was literally saving a turtle crossing the road. I was in a great mood. I was on my way to Arkansas to go catch a Bunch of snakes. I was wearing these overalls. Like, true story. I was wearing these overalls. I just got a copperhead. I was on cloud nine. I was having a great day, and someone called me. They're like, hey, Rob, what are you doing? You single? I said, why, are you interested? And. And they're like, no. You want to come back to Love Island? I was like. I thought about it and I was like, you know what? Like, my plan for the summer was just catch snakes all summer and just like, make videos and stuff. And I was just like, fuck it. Like, I'm not really doing anything. Might as well. I'd love to find a girlfriend. Didn't work out.

[Alex Cooper]

So you were looking for a girlfriend? Were you looking for a wife? Or do you not. You think you're there yet?

[Rob]

I'm looking for a girlfriend that I would marry.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Like. Like, I do. I do. I'm like, dating to marry at this point.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

And that's why I'm not wasting anyone's time. Like, I'm not gonna get into something that I. If at any point, I don't see that future progressing to that, like, I'm gonna get out.

[Alex Cooper]

How many times have you been in love?

[Rob]

I think once I told two of my girlfriends that I loved them, and I think I meant it with a girl.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

But then I. I realized I really meant it with.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think that your ex girlfriend watched the season of Leviand?

[Rob]

No, definitely not. But she definitely saw stuff.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, it's time to relive it. Let's go through it. Let's go through Love Island. Let's don't look so sad.

[Rob]

Can I like this candle?

[Alex Cooper]

If for sure. Do we have a lighter?

[Rob]

You don't need one.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, I don't know if you can do. How. I don't think it will work. I don't think. I don't think so. Oh, okay. You're trying to set the vibe so you can, like, be calm.

[Rob]

Yeah, I'm just coming.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you anxious right now?

[Rob]

It just. I'm just uncomfortable.

[Alex Cooper]

Why?

[Rob]

I don't know. I like you, though.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. I like you too. Do you want to, like, take your shoes off?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

Or do you want, like, a blanket? Do you want anything to make you cozier? Don't be anxious. I promise you, you're doing great.

[Rob]

Oh, thanks.

[Alex Cooper]

You're doing really good. We've got a blankie.

[Rob]

No, it's okay. I don't. You know, I don't need a blanket. No.

[Alex Cooper]

Why? Are you uncomfortable?

[Rob]

I just. I just I'm not uncomfortable. Yeah, I'm. I lied.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I'm fine.

[Alex Cooper]

So you are a liar. Just kidding. Okay. But you're just uncomfortable because this is a lot for you. It's like new.

[Rob]

It's very fresh. And like I said, like, it takes me a while to process.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

My emotions and how I feel about everything. And right now I think some of the things I'm not really, like, I'm not. I haven't processed it. So, like, this is. I mean, I just got back from Fiji. I just left.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And so, like, right now it makes me nervous to talk about these things because, like, emotions are kind of high and, like, I just don't want to, like.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, well, I think it's, you know. Yeah. I think it's fair that we can say for everyone watching. Like, to clarify again, like, you literally got on a plane, you got your phone on your way to the airport, you got on the plane, you landed here, and we're doing this. Like, this is not like a month later or even like a week later. Like, you have barely had time to like, even see all the fan edits on TikTok. You know what I mean?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, this is fresh. So I think that's good to clarify. And like, when we're talking about this, it's almost like you're still on the island. And I'm sure if I interviewed you a month from now, you're going to have a complete different perspective.

[Rob]

That's exactly what I'm thinking for sure. Like, that makes me nervous.

[Alex Cooper]

We'll do a follow up.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

So we'll compare notes from now to a month from now or a year from now. Where will Rob be in a year from now? We'll talk about it. Okay. You get into the villa. You're an original cast member, and the first person that you are coupled up with on day one is Leah. What was your first impression of her?

[Rob]

I really liked her a lot. I felt like I. I think it's pretty obvious that I'm a bit odd and I can be hard to read and I think it's hard for people to understand me, especially my humor. She got it right away and I loved that. I loved that. And I also thought she was really funny and obviously she's gorgeous. But seriously, from the first night when I walked in there, we just kept like locking eyes.

[Ad Read Host]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And I was like, man, I really hope that we get coupled up tonight. And then we did.

[Alex Cooper]

And how long were you guys in the villa alone together before Andrea came in? Two Days?

[Rob]

Well, like, yeah, technically. Like, it felt like a week. But it wasn't because Liv came in and stole me first.

[Ad Read Host]

Right.

[Rob]

But that was like. I mean, like, I was with. Like, there was never a moment where I thought I was gonna go with Liv instead of Leah. Like, it kind of got clipped that way. But, like, I was telling Leah the whole time, I was like, you have nothing to worry about. Because I was shocked when Liv picked me. Like, we all were. We all were so sure she was gonna pick Kendall.

[Alex Cooper]

Yes, I agree. I was pretty shocked, too. And then you were like. You and Leah were pretty upset. Like, you wanted to make your way back to each other, kind of. And, like, we could feel that in the beginning. I think we could all feel like you guys really liked each other.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And you guys shared a brain cell. Can you fudgeing explain what that means?

[Rob]

I don't. I don't remember how that went down. I just know that it was a thing and that we would give it to each other when we were talking, because we were like. It was a lot. I mean, like, we didn't sleep the first night. Like, we were like, it's insane. I'm telling you. It's an insane experience. That's, like, built to get your emotions up.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Which is, like. Is good. That's how it works. It's like putting a relationship in a microwave. Like, you know someone for a week, you feel like you know them for a month. Like, it's crazy.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, then Andrea comes in, and I remember you're sitting at the fire pit, and you're like, oh, my God. That is the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life.

[Rob]

Did I say that?

[Alex Cooper]

Actually, yeah, you said that. You were at the fire pit, you turned to the guys. You're like, that's the most gorgeous woman I've ever seen in my life. You also told.

[Rob]

They put in the whole clip because it was that. I said, I hope she has a terrible personality.

[Alex Cooper]

You did say. You did. Yes. And then. But you also told Leah that you weren't attracted to blondes.

[Rob]

I don't like blondes.

[Alex Cooper]

So then what was different?

[Rob]

She's not a blonde. She's brunette. She has blonde hair, but she's not blonde.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Yeah. She's got brown eyes, dark features.

[Alex Cooper]

She's not a blonde, but she's currently a blonde.

[Rob]

Yeah, but it doesn't. Come on. It's not that.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no.

[Rob]

That's not what makes you blonde or Burnett to me.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. I was just curious because obviously Leah was like, what the. He said he wasn't into blondes. And then we have live, and then we have Andrea.

[Rob]

Well, also, like, I don't follow, like, a rubric of, like, she has blonde hair done. Like, that's not. I don't really. When people ask me, I say I don't have a type.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

But I do typically like brunettes.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Like, my track record, definitely more. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

So when Andrea comes in, what was your first impression like during your first conversations with her?

[Rob]

First conversation. It was nice, but it wasn't, like, romantic. Like, I didn't feel. I enjoyed talking to her. Like, we apparently talked for, like, a really long time.

[Alex Cooper]

Yes.

[Rob]

And I didn't realize that we were talking that long, so, like, it went really well, but it wasn't like, it wasn't like, I was. I was still, like, pre all in on Leah at that point.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. You can imagine how that's confusing, though, because you were spending a lot of time with her.

[Rob]

Well, we had. We literally just had that one convo.

[Alex Cooper]

That was it.

[Rob]

Yeah. Before. Before. The next day, she took me on a date. But that night, we just had one.

[Alex Cooper]

One conversation.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And so you decided to be upfront with Leah that you were kind of feeling Andrea in that moment, which I do think everyone, like, apprec. Appreciated that you were upfront about it. You were like, I'm really still feeling Julia, but I do want to get to know her, and I'd be lying if I didn't. Were you afraid to have that conversation with Leah?

[Rob]

Of course. Because I didn't want to hurt her. I still really liked her. Like, I was like, that's something I think that people don't understand. Like, there was never a point where I stopped liking Leah and when. Well, I guess we'll get to that. But yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. But as you can imagine from Leah's perspective, like, that sucks to be like, I'm gonna get to know someone, and it's like, oh, I'm not good enough. That, like, you want to go try something different. Obvious. Were you worried that you would lose her?

[Rob]

Yeah, definitely. It was stressing me out. Like, it was stressing me out because I was. I told myself that I was going to get to know every girl, and I was gonna try to figure out who was gonna be my best match no matter how much I like the girl I was with.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Because that's what the level. Experience. That's what you're supposed to do.

[Alex Cooper]

Yep.

[Rob]

And that, you know, that's what they tell you. And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna do that. And so I was like, I gotta. And it was like a good enough conversation where I was like, I'm giving this a chance. Like, I'm just gonna see where it goes.

[Alex Cooper]

The Love island experience is odd. Like it's not normal. Like in the real world when you're single, you would never do that. But are you usually at least talking to like a couple people at once? Like, do you have like a little roster?

[Rob]

Not really. I'm not really. Like, I don't like talking to people that much. So like it's usually.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you bad texter?

[Rob]

Yeah, I'm terrible on my phone. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

So how do you communicate with your girlfriends?

[Rob]

Calling. FaceTime is calling. Much better.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you a FaceTimer or a caller?

[Rob]

I'm a caller, but I will FaceTime.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Because. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. So in real life though, you don't usually have like a couple women. Are people gonna come forward and be like, what are you talking about?

[Rob]

I mean, yeah, like it's definitely, it's definitely happened. Like I've definitely been. But I mean that's when you're single. Like, yeah, you're gonna get to know multiple people at a time. But like, it's not like I've never like dated multiple women.

[Alex Cooper]

Would you consider yourself a romantic person?

[Rob]

Yeah, I'm a romantic Art for sure.

[Alex Cooper]

What is the most romantic thing you've ever done for a girl?

[Rob]

Probably took her to catch turtles at.

[Alex Cooper]

2Am do you think that was your dream or her dream?

[Rob]

I don't know. It seemed pretty special to me.

[Alex Cooper]

You.

[Rob]

The moon was out and it was like, it was really nice. I enjoyed it a lot. It's quiet, it's kind of scary. So she's like, wants to be close and it's like, I don't know. Turtles are cute.

[Alex Cooper]

They are cute.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

That's cute.

[Rob]

I don't know. Most romantic thing. I can't think of that as I. My head. I. I used to. I like making things a lot.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, like what?

[Rob]

I made a emerald necklace for my first girlfriend from an emerald that I mined in North Carolina, I think.

[Alex Cooper]

Wow, that's romantic.

[Rob]

Yeah, I, I like making stuff. I'm. I'm crafty like that.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Yeah, that's a good answer. Okay, back to Love Island.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

The love triangle was clearly short lived. And can you walk me through the infamous conversation with Leah where she goes to basically confront you and is like, hey, what the. Like, I feel like you're spending time with her and then it blows up and the whole thing Just, it was basically like the last conversation that ended your guys relationship romantically.

[Rob]

Yeah. Oh, wait. Oh, the one where I jumped in the pool?

[Alex Cooper]

Yes.

[Rob]

Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

That was kind of like.

[Rob]

Yeah, I know.

[Alex Cooper]

The breaking point. Okay, take me to that conversation.

[Rob]

It wasn't for me at all if it seemed that way. That's not how it was. Really? Really? It was like. I don't know. I haven't seen it, so I don't know. But I've seen clips obviously, like on Tick Tock and stuff. I feel like it was condensed down to like, I don't know how long, but like it was a pretty long conversation that slowly got worse and worse and worse and worse. And it was kind of like Leah was coming at me, like saying what she was saying, which I thought was like perfectly valid. And I kept telling her that. I was like, I get where you're coming from. And like, I'm trying to see from your perspective because I get this hurting you. It would hurt me too if I was in your shoes. And then every time I tried to talk, she kept like cutting me off and she wouldn't let me speak. And. And then it started, I started getting emotional and then I was like, I just need to step away. And then I started crying and I was like, bro, what the are you doing? And I think just crying induced like a panic attack. Like, I was just, I was, I was fully freaking out. Slowly freaking out. And then I kind of got it together. I went back down, sat with her, and she just started talking again, like saying the same things and, and just didn't like, act like what, what set me off was she just didn't ask me like how I felt. Which I think that triggered a lot of people. They were like, it matters more what she feels in that moment. And 100. I was the one causing this situation.

[Ad Read Host]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And I was taking responsibility for that. I was trying to, but also like, I just needed someone just to check on me in that, in that moment. And I. And, and for me, up until that moment, she was that person. And I kind of felt like just that she didn't care at all, which isn't true.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

It was just. She was really upset and she.

[Alex Cooper]

Rightfully so I feel like that was like a classic. Like, you both were so hurt and when you were both speaking to each other, you both needed the other one to validate the other one. And you both were so hurt that like, you couldn't do that because you needed the person to be like, no, you're right. And neither of you could give that because you were so upset. But why do you think you had a panic attack? Like, what was it that was causing you so much angst?

[Rob]

It was everything. It was. It was knowing that I was gonna have to choose between these two girls. One that I just met, but I was really like, want to give a chance? And I liked. And then Leah, that I've just been so. It's been great the whole time. And honestly, like, I had no idea what I was gonna do. Yeah, I really, like. I like. And I didn't know. It's very short windows of time where you have to make decisions and stuff. And, like, I knew Leo wasn't going anywhere.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Yeah. So I don't know. I up. I was just like. I think, honestly, had that not happened, I probably would have stayed with Leah, I think, because that was. After that happened, I was like. I was like, well, that was terrible. And then at that point, like, my head was. I feel like after that, my gut was telling me, like, like, you should just go with Andrea. But my head was still like.

[Alex Cooper]

You.

[Rob]

Really get on with Leah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Like, it's really good. But I was hurt, and I should. I. I wish I could have just something I needed to hear in that moment that I wish someone would have came up into me and said was advice that I gave everyone else later down the road was, you need to just take yourself out of Love island for, like, 10 minutes and just realize you just met these girls. It's not that big of a deal. Why are you so emotional? Like, really, like, pick it apart? Because I didn't know. I was like, why am I crying so much? I like. And I thought that. But I didn't take myself out of it completely. And I think if I had done that, I think it would have been a lot different.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, but to your guys credit, like, it's like, you guys are in this, like, experiment box, and, like, you can't take yourself out of it. That's the.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Beauty. And the hard part of it. Like, I get it. You're like, wait, if I had gotten to just, like, go home for five minutes and, like, talk to my family and hung out, I would have come back in and been like, listen, ladies, like, let's all get to know each other. It's not that deep. Whoever picks who, like, we're all still here. Let's just keep hanging. Like, we've known each other for 24 hours. Like, but in the moment, it's so intense because it's also with people's like time while you're there and can someone almost get sent home? Like, it's so many dynamics that, like, it is heightened. You made a pretty fud comment in that conversation about how there was no sexual connection.

[Rob]

I did not say that. Yeah, I did not say there's no sexual connection.

[Alex Cooper]

You weren't feeling the sexual connection between you and Leah.

[Rob]

Did I say those words? Yes, that's exactly what I said.

[Alex Cooper]

You said. I mean, we can click, look it up. You said basically like you were not feeling the sexual relationship.

[Rob]

I. Yeah, it was. I felt like our. We weren't. Like, we didn't know what each other wanted. Like, it was kind of like a.

[Alex Cooper]

Weird thing because that you guys, like, you had made out, right?

[Rob]

Yeah, we made out a couple times. And it was good. It wasn't bad. I would just like. I don't know why that came up, but. But yeah, I was just letting her know, like, I'm in that it there. Like you said, anything you don't say to somebody is wasting their time. And like. Like I felt like I needed to be as transparent with everyone as I could.

[Alex Cooper]

And so what were you feeling? Because you clearly have a sexual connection with her. No or no.

[Rob]

Yeah, but it wasn't like. I feel like we didn't click sexually. Does that make sense? Found a really attractive everything. But when we kissed and stuff, it was like. Like, it felt like she was holding back. She told me and she said she was like. She said, oh, that's because she said it was. Because the first night when we had our first kiss, I said, please be gentle. I was joking before we kissed. And she said that's why. She said that from then on she, like, would like, hesitate, like kissing me and stuff. And she said that was why.

[Alex Cooper]

And do you think if that.

[Rob]

I was like. I was like, well, that makes sense because that's what it felt like. It felt like holding back. I couldn't tell if she wanted to kiss me whenever we would we, like, make out. And I'm like, does she want to stop? Like, I couldn't tell. He was really weird. And I'm glad I told her because. Well, I don't think we made out again after that, but. But I told her that and she was like, oh, yeah, I was holding back because you said that the first time we kissed. I was like, that was a joke.

[Alex Cooper]

Because I think obviously, like, that sucked to see because I on her side. Just like, as a girl, you're like, fudge. Like, there's no rebuttal. It's like, saying you have no chemistry with someone.

[Rob]

Yeah, but am I wrong for, like, telling her that?

[Alex Cooper]

No, no.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And I think she understandably was so upset by that comment. And then she slept outside that night, because I think she went to Serena after that was like, I literally feel, like, what the. Like, I feel, like, gross. Like, I'm like, oh, my God, am I not sexually attractive to him? But that's not what you were saying.

[Rob]

Not at all. And I told her that.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

You gotta understand, these conversations, they're, like, max five minutes long.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

That was at least an hour.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

At the very least, there's probably more of us talking up there in that.

[Alex Cooper]

Moment when I was watching. And you can clarify, it felt also like you were saying that. And I could be wrong, but I feel like the viewers kind of felt this way. And you. When you shared that with her, you use that an example of, like, why you basically were gonna maybe, like, try and make things work with Andrea.

[Rob]

I mean, maybe. But no, like, it was more of just telling her everything about us, like, on the table. So if that did happen, like, she understands where I'm at. Like, I didn't want. I didn't want to blindside anyone. And I feel like I ended up blindsiding her because I didn't get the chance to talk to her before the recoupling thing that was like. That's one of my biggest regrets is I should have insisted because I. I wasn't able to get to her, and I should have ins, like, been like, no, we're not. Like, I need to talk to Leah before this, like, because I knew it was going to happen. But. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Can you explain that you weren't able to get to her? Like, today they physically put you in different rooms and you can't see people. Oh, are you not allowed to talk?

[Rob]

I can't talk about it. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Really? I feel like everyone knows that. Okay. So I'm gonna.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. I'll just assume that you guys are, like, it separated.

[Rob]

I wasn't able to talk to her. That's all I can say. Like, I didn't get. I didn't get the chance.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I didn't get the chance to talk to her.

[Alex Cooper]

And can we just, like, finish the conversation on how everyone thought that you were potentially crying to manipulate the situation? I think a lot of people looked at the situation like, wow, he's in a position of power. He's getting to pick between these two women if anyone's crying.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And he's crying. Like, Leah should be crying. If anyone's cr.

[Rob]

Crying.

[Alex Cooper]

But she didn't, obviously.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And so people were struggling to know if the tears were genuine or if they were, like, a manipulation tactic to, like, make it look kind of like, oh, I'm. This sucks for me too. And, like, kind of get you out unscathed. What do you say to that?

[Rob]

That's completely not true. I mean, you can ask anyone that. I would never, never want to cry. Like, no, definitely not. That was completely genuine.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Unfortunately, I wish it didn't happen at all.

[Alex Cooper]

The pool was there, nowhere else to go.

[Rob]

So this is one of those things I should. So in my head, I wasn't planning on going to the pool, but I saw it. I walked down the stairs. I saw it. I was like, oh. I had noticed earlier that day, you could go up under the deck, and there's no cameras, there's no mics. I just wanted to be alone. I was like, this. And I was like, all right, I'm going in there. And so I took my clothes off, I jumped in, I went in there, and then I got in there, and I was like, they probably think I'm killing myself or something.

[Alex Cooper]

I was gonna say.

[Rob]

I was like, this is a terrible idea. This was an awful idea. So then I got out, and then I just walked out. And that's what I should have done. I should have walked out because I needed to be alone. That's what I needed. But I knew they were gonna stop me. I knew if I walked out, they're gonna, like, stop me, whatever. But I knew there. I get in the pool, like, what are they gonna do? Fish me out? Like. But, yeah, it was a. It was. Yeah. Hindsight, not the best choice.

[Alex Cooper]

What do you think your biggest flaw is when it comes to dating?

[Rob]

Probably my biggest flaw. It's hard to pick one.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, okay. Let's list a couple. We're here.

[Rob]

I think. I think I definitely learned from this that I have an issue with letting people in and letting my walls down. I think I also struggle with, like, communication, and I struggle with. I think I procrastinate my feelings. I think I'm feeling them, but I don't. I don't process them in my brain until I have to. And that is probably one of the biggest things. Like, that's what I think happened with the Leah and Andre situation, where I think if I had just like. But then again, I was never alone, and I have to be alone, do that kind of thing. And I think if I was able to do that, it could have been so much better. I could have communicated Leah a lot better because something about it is like, you can recouple, but it doesn't mean it's over. And I still had those feelings for Leah and I think if I could have talked to her about it, I don't know what happened, but like, it would have been different.

[Alex Cooper]

Why do you think you have such a hard time with letting people in?

[Rob]

Probably just the way I grew up. Okay, just like share kind of. Well, like I'm a family, I'm one of four and I was just always more the quiet one. Kept to myself, didn't really, I was like the middle child, there's four of us. But I was like, you know what I mean? Like, I just was like kind of independent and I think a lot of times I just felt like people didn't care. So, like, I just didn't ever. And I still feel like that I feel like people don't care because they don't. Like, realistically, most people don't give a, like they'll ask you, but they don't really care. So I just don't waste my time in telling people. Like, usually I just kind of like keep on going until I, I, I feel like it's something that matters, I guess.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

You know, that's why I think it's only in one on one conversation that I can like actually let my wells the walls down on top. Because I think I, I gave every girl a chance and I tried my best, but I like looking back, I was like, damn. Especially like after the Andre and Leah thing, it just like tightened me up even more, like, because I, I hurt them and I knew that and it was my fault, like, ye up. And I just, it was hard for me to like keep going after that.

[Alex Cooper]

I think people felt that you kind of like shut off after all that happened. Do you. Are your parents still together?

[Rob]

They got divorced like two years ago.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, I'm sorry.

[Rob]

It's okay.

[Alex Cooper]

What is your relationship like with your mom?

[Rob]

It's really good.

[Alex Cooper]

And your dad?

[Rob]

It's good.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

It's good. Yeah. My mom is a lot like me. She's like very witty and funny. She's hilarious. You would love her. And then my dad, is he really artistic and he's very handsome and that's like his thing.

[Alex Cooper]

He's really handsome.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And that's his thing.

[Rob]

You should. Yeah, yeah, he is. But. Well, no, and being an artist. He's an artist.

[Alex Cooper]

You kind of got like a little bit of.

[Rob]

I did, I got both, I got Both those things. That's good. I got. I got some of their best traits, and I got both of their worst traits.

[Alex Cooper]

What are their worst traits?

[Rob]

My mom is really emotional and sometimes says, like, says and, like, thinks things emotionally, sometimes, which I do. Which I've really worked on. Like, I think. And then. Yeah, I got some stuff for my dad, too.

[Alex Cooper]

You're like, I don't want to say what I got from my dad. Moving on. That's fine. I. I respect it. Is there a theme? I know you kind of talk about communication, but I want to know a little bit more. Like, is there a theme of why every relationship you've had has ended?

[Rob]

Yeah, I think. I think there is. I don't. This is really going to be sad, but it's just. I don't think that I can. I. I've. I've been able to let someone all the way in.

[Alex Cooper]

And what do you feel when you, like, start. Like, someone starts to get.

[Rob]

I feel like I reach a point and they keep going and I can't.

[Alex Cooper]

Why do you think that is?

[Rob]

I don't know.

[Alex Cooper]

Try.

[Rob]

I didn't know this was gonna be that deep. Also, I need to turn my phone off.

[Alex Cooper]

Turn it off. You're not allowed to look at your phone when I ask you a deep question. Go ahead.

[Rob]

Why do I think that is? I think I have. Gosh, this is really. I thought this was. Be the more fun. I don't know.

[Alex Cooper]

It'll be good. It'll get fun.

[Rob]

I think I. I think I need therapy, to be honest.

[Alex Cooper]

I think.

[Rob]

Therapy? Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

I think that's a good answer.

[Rob]

Right? I think I don't love me. And I really don't give a. What people say about me because most of the time, I'm saying it to myself already. Like, when I got out, I saw all the horrible things people were saying about me, and I was like, huh. Beat you to the punch. Like, I've been saying that this whole time, so I think I need to get over that before I can, like, really. And I've. I'm a lot better. I'm way better than I used to be. I used to be, like, really bad. Like, I'm my number one. I'm just hard on myself. And I think that comes with being an artist. I. I consider myself an artist. I love creating things. I love making things. And I think that's just part of the mentality is, like, you can always be better. Like, it's never perfect.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Which is not a good mentality to have. Like, you can't be perfect. It's literally impossible. But I know I'm very far from perfect, and I'm starting to accept it more and more. And I think, like, I don't know, I've. I've, like, hurt people in the past. Like, like I said with my last girlfriend, like, I hurt her, and it still tears me up, like, and it's completely my fault. There's no one to blame but me. There's no good excuse for it. And it's just, like, I just carry it around. I, Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

I appreciate, though, and I think a lot of people watching this will appreciate, Rob, that you're like, you do take accountability in what you're. You're saying. You're like, I know I up. I know I'm the one that up. I, I want to, like, figure out my. There's so many people, one of your friends that we saw this season that, like, doesn't take accountability and is, like, acting like, no, I didn't do that. Like, what are you talking about? I didn't do that. Like, you're like, no, I did that. And I up. And I don't know why the. I did that. Like, I think that's progress. I think that's, like, the first step to actually, like, understanding why the. You make certain decisions. Yeah, right.

[Rob]

I, I try to be a good person. I really do. Do I think I'm a good person? Yeah, actually, yeah, I do think I am a good person. I, I, I think of others often, and I try, but I'm not perfect. And I mess up, up. And I want to be better, I guess, is what I'm saying. Like, I, I'm. I've never been in a point in my life where I'm like, this is as good as it gets. I'm like this. But, no, I always want to keep getting better, and I think I have.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think that this process made you realize more that you want to keep working on yourself?

[Rob]

100. I mean, like, I was working on myself before it, but, like, that. That's one of the valuable things I got from this is I, I was able to look at myself in conflict. Like, how do I react? And, like, when I'm angry, how do I react when I'm really hurt? Like, I can literally go and watch it. Like. Yeah, and that's, like, super valuable. It really is, because you can see. And that's something that Leah got from this, too, because Leah was. I mean, she said some awful things about me and claimed to never have said them. When she told Talk to me.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, what?

[Rob]

That she said that was a little. And that I gave her the ick because of it. And, like, just like some crazy that I've, I mean, I've seen some clips, but she never admitted to that once until movie night. Like, she's, she said she didn't say that. And then at one point she was like, I may have said some things. And I was like. But I fully, fully believe Leah didn't. She didn't. Like, I think she says things that when she gets emotional and then this never happened. Like, she doesn't actually feel it. She didn't say it. I think that kind of happens with her, at least, I don't know in that. In that regard.

[Alex Cooper]

I feel like your thing this season was like, you run when things get a little hard. Like, you physically run under the pool. You would, like, walk away from things. You would go to Soul Ties by yourself and, like, stand there. And like, I think you. Do you do that in your real life? Like, do you kind of, like, remove yourself when things are getting a little complicated or heightened?

[Rob]

I would say yeah at times. But also I would say I have to do that sometimes because, like I said, I, I, I'm serious. If you were just sitting in a room with me, I wouldn't be able to think about my feelings. It's really weird. I. I really need to be alone to process how I'm feeling. And journaling helps a lot. And you. I couldn't do either of those things.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, you couldn't journal?

[Rob]

You can't? No, because Beach Hut is your journal. Sorry, I'm not supposed to talk about that.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, okay.

[Rob]

It's like the cutaway, right?

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, it's like you're confessional.

[Rob]

Yeah, right.

[Alex Cooper]

But staring into a camera is a little.

[Rob]

Also, like, the amount of things I've written in my journal that I don't mean. You just say it to get it out. And then I'm like, okay, I don't feel that way. Move on. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just how I process.

[Alex Cooper]

So you then couple up with Andrea, and you were together for four days?

[Rob]

Yep.

[Alex Cooper]

And obviously, like, you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

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[Alex Cooper]

Today you went from being with Leah to then being with Andrea. Like, what did you feel like was the core difference in those two relationships that you experienced?

[Rob]

So after, like, everything that happened with Leah, I was like, okay, I made the right decision. Like, I just. That's just the way I saw it. I was like. I was like, this was nuts. Like, this. We've not known each other that long. We had this whole thing, which it was mostly my fault. Yeah, Like, I feel like it was mostly my fault that it happened that way. But I mean. I mean, she'll admit some fall in it as well, but I feel like it was mostly my fault. But it just didn't work. And I thought it was like, okay, our communication styles, whatever. I was like. I was like, okay, well, I made the right choice. Like. Like, things with On Dre are really great. And it was. It was an amazing four days we had. Like, I was, like, smitten. Like, I really was. Like, I was having a great time. And you can tell.

[Alex Cooper]

You seemed it.

[Rob]

You can tell. I saw she was, like, so much, like, just good. Like, I don't know. I like talking to her, and I love the way she talked about her family. And it just felt really romantic. Like, it just felt romantic. This is like the best way I could put it. I felt romantic when I was with.

[Alex Cooper]

Other in the moment of those four days. And I want to clarify because I feel like a lot of people are like, you knew each other for four days. Like, four days seems like, what, in Love island time?

[Rob]

That's like a month. Like, like a week. A week is like a month. It seriously is. Like, it feels like you've known them forever. Because literally, you're with. Like, usually you date a girl. You may go on a date, you'll see her maybe next week or in a couple days, and you're like, you'll text the whole time, whatever. But, like, there you are with them at any opportunity you can, and you have to talk about how you feel about everything. You're immediately talking about how many kids you want, and then if so, if you like them, that progresses really, really fast.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, that's a good point, too. Like, women think about this. If you're listening. Like, you get upset after a fourth date if a guy ghosts you, and you're. Because you're like, well, we went on our fourth date. Fourth date, fourth day for you for almost 24 hours of basically hanging out, sleeping together.

[Rob]

Oh, it's like our 20th day. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. Okay. So it got super emotional. And then obviously, when elimination came around, the girls decided to send Andrea home.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And the world was shocked. Like, people online were like, this is the craziest episode that we've ever seen in Love island history. Like, what the fuck? And obviously you were shocked. What do you remember feeling when you heard her name called?

[Rob]

At first, I was just mad. I was like, this makes no sense. This makes no sense. No sense. We had the strongest connection of most of the people in the villa at the time. Like, let alone who was up for elimination. And I was like. I was just baffled. I was baffled. I was like, how does this make sense? And then I was like, it. I'm leaving.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. So you immediately stood up and you were like, now you're sending three home.

[Rob]

Like, well, it wasn't immediate that. That pro. That's longer.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. But it was edited.

[Rob]

We're sitting there, we're talking where it's like, there's a back and forth between the girls and the guys.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay?

[Rob]

Blah, blah, blah. And then finally, like, I'm sitting there and I'm like, all right, yeah, Nah. And Aaron's like, no, no, no, no, no. Rob, Rob, Rob. No, no. And I got up and I was like, yeah, I'm leaving.

[Alex Cooper]

So you say you're leaving.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And then you don't leave. Yeah, I understand your re. Like, explain your reasoning to maybe people that forget why you didn't leave.

[Rob]

All right, once again, that was a three hour process of me trying, like, wanting to leave and, like, having conversations with people, and they're like, no, you shouldn't. Like, so it wasn't 30 minutes minutes. No.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

No, she. She did have 30 minutes back, and I had that conversation with her, but after she left, I was like, no, no. Like, because I had a conversation, okay. And they're like, no, you should say, blah, blah. Like, it's so dumb. You've only known for four days, blah, blah. I'm like, okay, fair enough. But then right after that, I was like, no, I'm leaving. Like, I'm like, no, like, I'm. I'm actually leaving. And I just had a lot of conversations, blah, blah. And they convinced me to stay the night. And then the next day, I calmed down. And I was like, okay. Yeah. Like, I came here to find the best connection. It was going amazing with her. And I think, like, you know, like, the honeymoon stage of a relationship, we were at that. We were at that point where I was like, this girl could do no wrong. I was just, like, so keen. Like, I was just happy gone. And I was like. Like, I don't know. Like, it was just a bad time. Like, literally the next day, I could have been like, oh, like, I don't know about this. You don't know. But. But. But I. I was like, who knows who else might come in here? Like, you know, because it was still early days.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And so I was like, I mean, yeah, it does. I don't want to get out of here, get with her. It doesn't work out. Which statistically, very high probability that we would not work out. And then I'm like, damn, what could have been?

[Alex Cooper]

Do you regret the way that you responded, though, in that moment? Because you obviously got Andrea's hopes up.

[Rob]

Yeah, 100. 100. I regret it. I wish I wouldn't have said it, but in that moment, that's what I was doing. Like, I was set on leaving. Like, I. And for a while after that, I was set on leaving even the next day. But, yeah, of course, you don't see any of that.

[Alex Cooper]

Had she not got sent home, do you think that you guys would have gone to the finale together?

[Rob]

I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I don't know if it would have worked out. I really don't. Yeah, it was really, really great. But, like. Like, it was still early days.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Like, we had a lot to learn about each other.

[Alex Cooper]

And, you know, have you seen the TikTok that's trending that, like, you sat up there and you thought, like, you said, oh, you're sending three home now you're in your overalls.

[Rob]

What now, bitch? Yeah, I've seen that.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. It's kind of iconic, no.

[Rob]

Yeah. No, Leah's hilarious. Like, I. I love. Like, Leah's great.

[Alex Cooper]

She's amazing.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

So after the elimination of Andrea, she's gone. And Leah basically told you that she took a backseat in that decision of the process of sending Andrea home, and this caused so much fucking drama between you and Leah. You called her a liar. It caused drama between Leah and all the women.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Now, looking back, what do you actually believe happened?

[Rob]

I think it was a lot of miscommunication.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

From the girls to me, from me to Leah. And so, first of All. I did not think Leah was capable of lying to me. I really thought that we had. I thought we had something special. And I did not think she was lying to me at all until that conversation that she had with me. It was up on the upstairs thing. She was. She told me, like. And once again, I haven't watched it. I don't remember exactly what she said, but I. She basically said, like, she didn't talk shit about me and Andrea, or she didn't talk shit about me or, like, shit like that. And I knew that wasn't true. And I was like, damn. And then she said I took a back seat in the decision. And I was like, interesting. And the point of that conversation was not about that at all for me. It was more about, is this girl lying to me? Because, like, I still had feelings for her. And, like, I was thinking at this point, I was like, okay, maybe I should give this another shot. That's what the point. You remember when I pulled Liv in? Kaylor. Yeah. I was not trying to, like, you.

[Alex Cooper]

Can'T even remember Kaylor's name.

[Rob]

Kaylor. Sorry, I can't remember Kayla's name. Kayla, I love you so much. Like a sister to me.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no, you're fine. You're fine. I'm interested to talk to you about all that, but.

[Rob]

Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah. When I pulled them, the only reason I did that is because I didn't want to. Like, I knew Lee was gonna get upset, and I just didn't want to have the conversation at all. If they were like, oh, no, she did. I would have been like, okay, cool. And I would have dropped it. The only reason I pulled them is because I just wanted all the facts. I wanted to know the truth before I went into it. Also, if she had been lying to me, I knew she was gonna lie. And she did kind of deny everything when we started the conversation. And I was like, oh, okay. And then I just kind of felt lied to. And then they just kept yelling at each other, and I was like, I don't even want to be a part of this anymore. That's not what I want at all. Also, so people were saying that we teamed up on her. I talked to Leah by myself, and she called Liv over. She kind of. I think she kind of thought Liv was going to be on her side, and she just wasn't at all. And then it was, like, bad. It was. I hated that moment because it was just, like, Leah was just in the between two people that disagreed with her, and it was just. It Wasn't fair for her at all.

[Alex Cooper]

No, I agree. I think, like, understandably, Leah, when she called Liv over, thought that Liv was gonna be like, oh, yeah, we got your back, girl. And then Liv was like, no, I'm gonna be real. And this is how I feel about it. And then in that moment, it should have been like, okay, I didn't know that. So, Liv, you and Leah need to have a conversation alone. Let's you and I finish our conversation. Because I agree it became ganging up, but then it was also tough because it's like, yeah, but you asked Liv. And Liv's telling.

[Rob]

Yeah, exactly. She asked for that. Yeah. And. And she was trying to team up on me.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

But I wanted the conversation to be really calm. Like, I was trying to be really, really calm.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And then she just kept, like, saying these things, and I was like, this is not true. And that's when I, like, lost my. And I was like, can you just wake the up? Like, we, like, just be real with me.

[Alex Cooper]

It's interesting because this isn't even a question for you. It's a question for production. And I think everyone on the Internet is feeling it. It's like, why will they not just air the clip? Just aired the clip of the girls in the huddle and they never did. They never.

[Rob]

I thought I would get to see it.

[Alex Cooper]

No, we've never seen it. No one ever aired it. And I think a lot of people have a conspiracy that, like. Like, Leah was getting a bad edit, so maybe it completely clears her name and they don't want to put it up or like, I don't know what the happened in that huddle, but, like.

[Rob]

They have never aired it based on what the girls have told me. I don't think it does that. I don't think it clears your name, really. No, but that's. Once again, he said, she said, which I don't want to talk about that in a negative way towards anybody because I. I don't like talking bad about people at all.

[Alex Cooper]

No, but I get it. Like, you're in the middle of this drama, and everyone. It's like this one thing. Everyone's like, like, what the was the decision? And understandably, everyone's going to, like, say their piece, but I just wish. Show us the footage. Just show us the footage. Yeah, just play. And I thought we were going to get that on movie night, and we didn't. We're like, just play. Clear. Clear everyone's names. Get the truth. I don't know production.

[Rob]

I would have loved to see that as well.

[Alex Cooper]

Maybe they should.

[Rob]

I heard. I heard, like, I heard what was said.

[Alex Cooper]

You heard what was said?

[Rob]

Yeah. Did they ever air that? No, I was told, like, specifically what she was saying. Saying after that.

[Alex Cooper]

Share it with the class.

[Rob]

I don't want to because I don't know if it's true.

[Alex Cooper]

Who told you?

[Rob]

I don't want to say that either.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. But you got.

[Rob]

It's just drama. To me, that's drama. I like to know facts, and if I know facts, I will call you out on it and I'll, like, be like, hey, let's talk about this. But I'm not gonna, like, start something over something I don't know is true or not. Like, that's ridiculous to me.

[Alex Cooper]

No. That whole thing just became so much bigger than it was meant to be.

[Rob]

And it became about the decision that I wasn't. I was just trying to, like, talk about, like. Like how honest she had been with me.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And I feel like the way she reacted made me feel like she wasn't being honest at all.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, also, at the end of the day, no matter what Leah said in that circle, there were three. What, three or four girls making that decision 100%.

[Rob]

It wasn't all on her.

[Alex Cooper]

So.

[Rob]

And I. And. And I. I didn't care about that. Like, she made the decision the what she just, like, you know, I just wanted to know if she was being honest about taking a back seat. I think that's what it became about. It was never about that. Even if she was full. Like. Like, we need to get Andre out of here. I wouldn't have been mad at her. Like, I would have just liked to know if that was the truth. I just wanted honesty.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

That's all I wanted. I wanted to know that I could trust her.

[Alex Cooper]

And you don't feel like you got that.

[Rob]

No, I didn't. I felt like I couldn't trust her at that time. I was like. And like now, like, looking back, I don't know. Because I think it was really getting twisted around.

[Alex Cooper]

I agree.

[Rob]

By everyone.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

But myself included. I think that I didn't remember things right from our first conversation. But, like, I think everybody involved in that had a different narrative. And then there was the truth. Truth. And none of us were on it. I don't think.

[Alex Cooper]

I know. Play the peacock. They should air that as, like, a bonus episode. And it's like a two second glimpse.

[Rob]

Or it'd be like 2.99. They'd make so much money. Like an only fans link for that.

[Alex Cooper]

Clip, I would pay for it in the real world. Do you? You have an easy time trusting partners.

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[Alex Cooper]

H-E-L-P.com Daddy, in the real world, do you have an easy time trusting partners?

[Rob]

When I first start something with someone, I fully trust them. That's like, I'm not going to date you if I don't. And that's why I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm not going to date Leah.

[Alex Cooper]

Have you ever gone through someone's phone?

[Rob]

Yeah, once. Well, like, my first. So my first college girlfriend. That was the most toxic relationship I've ever been in.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

On both sides. I was toxic, she was toxic. We could not stay away from each other to save our lives. Broke up a million times. Got together, back together a million times.

[Alex Cooper]

Of course.

[Rob]

Craziest things. Also, we're drinking all the time because it's college. So the cr. Like, that's the most toxic relationship I've ever been in. It was. It was crazy. But, yeah, I went through her run for. She went through my phone, too. I would wake up and she'd have my phone. She'd be like, you motherfucker. Like. Like the crazy we have. I have the craziest stories of, like.

[Alex Cooper]

Between us, but did you find anything incriminating? Yes, I know. So have you been cheated on?

[Rob]

I mean, we weren't together at the time.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. It was the toxic college thing where.

[Rob]

It'S like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you want to share a funny, crazy story with us?

[Rob]

No, no, no.

[Alex Cooper]

Why?

[Rob]

Because she's. She's a good girl, and I wish her the best. And we both grew up, you know, people can change, and I don't want people to be like. Like, you did that, you know?

[Alex Cooper]

Do you think people will know who she is?

[Rob]

Yeah, definitely.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[Rob]

Everyone from my hometown will know who she is.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh. And then it will come out. Yeah. Yeah.

[Rob]

I, like, wish her the best. I think she's about to get married. Like, oh, my God. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Definitely. Don't share the story.

[Rob]

Congrats.

[Alex Cooper]

Congrats. So proud of you. Out of that toxic shit with Rob.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Onto healthier things.

[Rob]

No, I think a lot of my ex girlfriends are about to get married. I, like, prepare them. I'm like, like the stepping stone.

[Alex Cooper]

How does it make you feel?

[Rob]

Sad. No, wrong sad.

[Alex Cooper]

You're gonna find your person.

[Rob]

Maybe.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you the jealous type?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

100.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

100.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, how jealous? Jealous.

[Rob]

I'm, like, more of, like, a protective jealous, but, like, when I'm dating a girl, like, I Like, I'll kind of make it known. Like, I'll put myself in between her and whatever the situation is. Yeah, that's kind of like that. That.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, can we talk about Aaron? Your boy. Your boy, Aaron. Throughout this season online sometimes people would joke that, like, you guys were the strongest couple in the.

[Rob]

I've seen a lot of that. A lot of that.

[Alex Cooper]

How would you describe your friendship?

[Rob]

I think, like, at first I was like, I'm not so sure about this guy. He's like the kind of the opposite of me in the way that he's like, really loud and, like, loves to like, he's just silly and like, like goofy and. And I'm like that too, but like, only when I'm like, really comfortable with people. But then, like, I got to know him and like, he felt like family. Like, he. He's like, really, like, he's really sweet and he really, like, cares about everyone. Like, he really did. Like, like, he would get sad when anyone was sad.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, specifically you, though.

[Rob]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, like, we. We, like, became really, really good friends. Like, like, he seriously felt like my brother.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. During casa more now, we, like, we really need you to give us some information. Okay. To clarify this. We don't have to speak about this again. We watched Aaron, basically, she on Kayla with Daniella.

[Rob]

Yeah. Okay, well, they were open.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, they were open. But it was like, pretty fucking slimy.

[Rob]

I'm not gonna lie. When I saw the clips, I was shocked.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay?

[Rob]

I was shocked. And I was shocked that day that I saw him kissing her on the beanbag. I was shocked.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. When it was time to return to the villa, you brought his girl Daniela.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Back in with you.

[Rob]

Right.

[Alex Cooper]

And he returned as single so that he could present as loyal, basically to Kaylor. And he's like, I want you. What the happened? Do not lie to me. Tell me what happened.

[Rob]

Well, I wasn't really getting on with any. Like, I got to know the girls. They were great girls. Sydney, so funny. Like, I thought they were really great girls, but I didn't see, like, long term relationship type things with most of them. And Daniel had been talking with Aaron most of the time. And we have, like, similar type as far as personality. And the first conversation I had with her, I really liked. And he was telling me the whole time that I should talk to her. And I was like. I was like, what? And he was like, yeah, like you, like, I think you guys really get along. And I'm like. But. Because he. I think he knew he wasn't going to Take her back. Back. At that point, he was like, you should. You should at least talk to her and see. Even though he loved her, he loved her.

[Alex Cooper]

He told her that he loved her twice.

[Rob]

Daniela.

[Alex Cooper]

Yes. You have seen this.

[Rob]

He said he loved her.

[Alex Cooper]

Huh?

[Rob]

I haven't seen that.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

Did they show that at movie night?

[Alex Cooper]

No. That's what's been so crazy online is everyone's like, why the was that not played at movie night? I don't know if Kayla even knows that yet. She probably does now that she's out.

[Rob]

Definitely does.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I didn't know that.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, it was, like, the biggest thing on the Internet that really.

[Rob]

I haven't even seen it on, like, anything. I haven't seen it clips or anything.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Oh, well, what was the question?

[Alex Cooper]

Anyways, so how the did you come back to the villa with Daniella?

[Rob]

Well, yeah, so I literally didn't get a chance to talk to her that much at all. And then I did. I talked to her, and I was like, well, like, I liked her value, like, where her values were, and I liked, like, once again, like, she's very family oriented, like me, and she loves animals. She wanted to be a vet. I was like, okay, I could see something here. So I was like, my. And like, what am I gonna do? Go act single to no one to live?

[Alex Cooper]

You did say you liked her, right? Before you. I thought.

[Rob]

I, I. I was actually really close to doing that. The exact thing. I was really close to going back single and just being like, liv, what's up? You want to hang out? Yeah, I was. I was really close to doing that.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

I seriously thought about it, but I was like, like, like our. Like, Liv and I both knew, like, we get on and, like, we get each other's humor and, like, I find her really attractive, but, like, it was like, it's more of a friendship for sure, like.

[Alex Cooper]

So did Aaron ask you to bring Daniela back?

[Rob]

No. Hell no. Hell no. He didn't want me to bring her. Oh, actually, he did.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you.

[Rob]

He did. But then after that, right. Like, immediately after that, he was like, terrible idea. Don't bring it back. Back.

[Alex Cooper]

Right. Okay. So he did. So he did articulate that.

[Rob]

That's true. I forgot about that.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you. Can you please tell us about the conversation?

[Rob]

I don't really remember that well, but he was like. He. He, like, called. He pulled me for a chat, and he was like, oh, yeah. She took it really, really well. The way that when he said that he was done, like, he wasn't gonna take her back Whatever. She took it. He said, like, she took it with, like, such grace. And, like, she was so kind, and she just said really nice things about him and stuff. And he was like, oh, dang. Like, that was really cool. He's like, you're gonna like her a lot. You should hang out with her. But, like, yeah. And he was like, you should take her back. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot about. I forgot. I totally. But it's because the reason I forgot about it is because maybe 10 minutes after that conversation, he was like, please forget everything I just said. That's an awful idea. I'm going back to Kayla, and I really like Kayla. Like, let's just don't bring her back at all unless you really want, too. And I was like, okay.

[Alex Cooper]

And just for, like, anyone who, for some reason, is watching this and never watched Love island, basically, the point is Aaron was coupled up with Kaylor, goes into a new house with all new women, is making out with this new girl, and then basically asks Rob to bring that girl back into the villa on his accord. So that, like.

[Rob]

Well, he did not say. He said, only if you see something with her as, like, if you want to bring her back. Dude, it. But, like, it was like, yeah, it was, like, I guess implied, like, that he thinks that she's cool, but I don't. But I'm telling you, literally 10 minutes after that, he was, like, freaking out. Everything I said so wrong. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. Yeah, I'm a dumbass. Do not do that unless you really want to. And then I was like. I got to know her, and I was like. I was like, there's enough there that I want to see where it goes. Yeah, we didn't have a lot of time.

[Alex Cooper]

Did you feel like a dick doing that to Kayla?

[Rob]

Yeah, I did, because I care about Kayla. She's like a sister to me. But I also thought about it, like, okay, well, at least, like, she's gonna know, like. And I was wrong. But at least she's gonna know that he's being honest, because she'll tell him everything. And then she didn't. I've seen that as well.

[Alex Cooper]

It's.

[Rob]

Yeah, I know. I know. But that was, like, my silver lining. I was like. I was like, okay, yeah, like, this is gonna be weird. And it sucks because, like, Aaron's my best friend, and Kayla is his girl. And, like, I want to be able to hang out with them all together. But honestly, like, Kayla really took it with grace. Like, and. And she got along with Daniela enough that, like, we could all kind of hang out, but, like, I don't know things.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, yeah. Aaron is kind of in the doghouse on the Internet.

[Rob]

I know.

[Alex Cooper]

He's kind of the villain of the season.

[Rob]

I know. Well, yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

And I think he's going to be okay. Because I think. Think what I've just told him over and over again is you fucked up. You got to take accountability. And as long as you keep doing that, I think it's going to be okay. Because I promise you this. He loves Kaylor. He really does.

[Alex Cooper]

Wow.

[Rob]

He cares about her so much. And it was killing him. Even in casa like, he was like. I remember one day specifically, it was after he kissed her. He sat in the room for like, hours and just stared and was like, what the fuck have I done? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And he really cares about her a lot. He really does.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah. But he gets really emotional for you. There are so many clips of, like, his emotions towards you versus everyone else, even Kayla. Like, he was sobbing when he thought you were gonna leave. It's kind of cute. So for the rest of your time in the villa, you obviously kind of like, didn't find that connection that was as strong as Andrea or Leah. And I don't know if you've seen all the fan edits. Edits. You have seen all the fan edits of you and Leah.

[Rob]

I've seen a ton. I mean, how could I not? They're everywhere.

[Alex Cooper]

The entire world, like, wanted you guys to end up together. Would you ever try to make it work in the real world?

[Rob]

I think after everything, I think we will be amazing friends. And I think I'd rather just focus on that for now. Like. Like love being around her. She's an amazing person. She's so funny. Like, I'm like, laughing the whole time I'm with her usually. But, like, I mean, I think. I also think Miguel is a really great guy. I love Miguel. And we're actually really similar, which I didn't see coming at all. Like, some of our. Some of the way we think. But yeah, I think. I don't know what's happened, obviously, but I mean, no, I mean, I'm gonna respect them and, and her. And like, I just. I just don't think that that's like, net, like, necessary at all. I think that we're great friends and that's like a great spot to be. Be. And I'm happy with it. Like, I'm content in that. Like, I would be content being friends with her.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. I don't think people like that answer.

[Rob]

I mean, but that's okay. That's.

[Alex Cooper]

No, that's the honest truth. That's the honest truth.

[Rob]

Yeah. Like, I'm okay with being friends and I want to be friends.

[Alex Cooper]

Why do you think America is rooting for you and Leah, even though she has something good with Miguel?

[Rob]

Probably all the edits. Probably all the edits you guys have made of us looking at each other and, like, I mean, and we care. It's like, it's not built on nothing. Like, we care for each other for sure. I, like, I feel that she cares for me and I care for her. But, yeah, after everything, like, I just. I think it would be really, really hard. I mean, it's kind of like the Aaron Kaylor situation, like, that's going to be such an uphill battle for them to get through. And I think, like, the best thing for us is just to, like, move on and be friends. Like, seriously, I think that's just the best thing.

[Alex Cooper]

Was it as epic in the villa, the, like, feelings that you guys had as compared to, like, these fan edits? Because you guys had this, like. It feels like this, like, unsaid, like, insane attraction, and it was this whole whirlwind and, like, did it feel that way.

[Rob]

Most of the time? No. What?

[Alex Cooper]

I love that answer.

[Rob]

Most of the time, though, there was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. Like, I cannot lie. There was definitely some moments where I was like, damn. But most of the time, like, a lot. Like, I've seen a lot of them. I'm like. I'm like, I don't even think she was looking at me in that. Like. Like, like, some of them I'm like, okay. But yeah, like, other times I'm like, yeah. I mean, that was a nice moment for us, right? Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

But the edits have made it really. Like, it's.

[Rob]

It's definitely, like, high hype. Hyped up a lot, right? Yeah, for sure, for sure.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

[Rob]

Yeah. I think she would say the same thing.

[Alex Cooper]

How do you think Leah feels about you now? Obviously, we saw your, like, grand final moment with her where you run up so funny.

[Rob]

Didn't feel like that at all. Like, really. I mean, in the moment it did, but, like, I literally just wanted to say bye and, like, let her know that I cared about her. I thought she was great, and I'm. I'm glad that we got to get back to that point. That's all I wanted to say. But then it was like, I don't know. It Was so much more emotional than I thought it was going to be. Like in my head I was like, this is not a big deal at all. I'm just gonna let her know these things. And then I let her know and then I was like, oh, that was kind of crazy. Like a little bit. Not. It wasn't that crazy, but like, it seems a lot crazier on tv, I think.

[Alex Cooper]

So producers did not make you do that.

[Rob]

No, they didn't make me do that.

[Alex Cooper]

Because everyone was like, oh my God, that felt too perfect. That it was like produced.

[Rob]

No, no, like other than like the lines they wrote me. No, I'm playing, I'm playing. No, that was.

[Alex Cooper]

It's like music goes into it, which.

[Rob]

Like there was a music while you're saying. Exactly, exactly.

[Alex Cooper]

But you both. Did you say like love you, Which I feel like a. Not an I love you, but I love you is pretty friend zoning.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Because it's like once you say love you to someone, it's like, oh, wow. Because if you were really going to be in a romantic situation, you'd probably like save those words.

[Rob]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you say that, it's like I love you as a friend. Yeah, for sure.

[Alex Cooper]

But you just said you guys are friends. Okay, I'm curious. Yes. Andrea, she said after she left that she would love to rekindle things with you. This probably was a while ago. I know she's been like posting a lot. Would you want to give your guys relationship a shot in the real world or.

[Rob]

No, I don't. Yeah, I don't. I mean, I've been talking to her a little bit, but it's not like. I think, I think once again, like, it's probably better if we just kind of like keep our distance for now. Like, kind of like it's. A lot has happened and she's been like posting a lot.

[Alex Cooper]

A lot.

[Rob]

Yeah. Which is like, I'd be lying if I was like, I was kind of like, oh, it's a lot of things to post about. Which sounds really bad. But like, I do think she's a great girl and I think she got it. Like, I think the reason she did that is like she was. She went in there and did what she was supposed to do. She did nothing wrong. Literally did nothing wrong. And she was always kind. Like she. When she left, I don't know if it was. I haven't seen it, but I don't know when she left, she was in a position where she could have said a lot of mean things and been like, Y'all are some bitches for doing this. Blah, blah, blah. Did not say a word. All she said was, like, how much she cared about me and then left. Like, I thought that was, like, so good. And, like, I thought she handled herself so well the whole time, which is why I was kind of surprised. Like, she. She was, like, posting a lot of stuff, but, like, I get. She was. She got, like, the most hate from anyone from the show.

[Alex Cooper]

So did you reach out or did she reach out when you got your phone?

[Rob]

I texted her, I text her. I just said, hey, how are you? Like, and then I called her. Well, she. Yeah, we called. We FaceTime for a little bit. Didn't talk about, like, anything like, crazy. Just, like, wanted to see how she was doing because at this point, I hadn't looked at really anything online. And I was just like, how are you doing? Like, everything, you know, I was thinking about you a lot. Like, blah, blah. Told her my. Because I knew once she left, she didn't know what happened. And I think it was made to look like she left. I was like, I'm leaving. I didn't. And then I didn't give a. That was not the case.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I was like, you can ask us any person in there. I was like, I was so, like, for that week after that, like, it was tough, but, like, I did. I did get better and I got over it, like, towards the end. So, like, and I told. I let her know, like, all that, and I was just like. Because I felt guilty. I felt really guilty about it. And. And at times I was like, I should have just left. Like, I'm such a. Like, I don't know. I mean, like I said, I tear myself up, like, but rightfully so. Like, I. It was such a lose, lose situation at that point, like, because I got emotional and said that. But yeah, I just kind of let her know, like, how it went, how I was feeling and everything. And she told me, like, a little bit about what was going on with her, and then that was it. And then we've texted a little bit. But I did. Did start to see, like, all the stuff that she was doing, and I was like, that's something that I did not see coming from her. She just seemed very. No drama, like, in the villa, so no drama, like, she, like, she said that. Like, yeah. And I just was really kind of set back by that. When I saw that, I was like, oh, interesting.

[Alex Cooper]

It is interesting because I feel like that must be weird for you of, like, everyone was sort of a certain way in the villa. And now that everyone's gonna be done and it's coming out and everyone. You're gonna see everyone. Like, I wonder if you're gonna feel the same type of way. Have you thought about that? Like, once you see them in the real world, like, will you feel the same type of way about them as you did with, like, these kind of blinders on in the villa?

[Rob]

Yeah, it is like. It's like, when you're in the villa, it's like tunnel vision, and you get outside, the tube's gone, you know? Right. Like, if you're just a girl. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

You still be, like, down to hang with her.

[Rob]

Right?

[Alex Cooper]

Or is she, like, not the vibe? Because it's. It's.

[Rob]

Yeah, but it's not, like, the reason I'm having those thoughts, it has nothing to do with me being out. It has to do with me seeing what she's been doing while I was out. Like, I was, like, interesting. And. But I will just, like, last thing on it. Like, I will give her, like, credit. Like, I do get why she would be doing that if, like, people were coming at her, but it was a lot.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, I'm gonna say the names of women that you connected with on, like, the season, and I want you to describe your relationship with them in one word.

[Rob]

You have no paper. Paper. Sorry.

[Alex Cooper]

One word.

[Rob]

Yep.

[Alex Cooper]

Or if you want to describe your relationship. No, one word.

[Rob]

That's great.

[Alex Cooper]

You got this.

[Rob]

This is a Rob thing.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah, that's why I said one word.

[Rob]

One word's good.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Ready?

[Rob]

I guess. Let me think. Do I know that? Okay.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Cassidy.

[Rob]

Cassidy. Shy sex. No, I had sex with Cassie.

[Alex Cooper]

Cassie.

[Rob]

But Cassidy did. You didn't have sex with her.

[Alex Cooper]

You couldn't hold out anymore.

[Rob]

I had been a really, really, really long time, and I was. It was in it. Like, after. I was like, fuck, Rob. You made it this whole time. You didn't have sex on tv? Your poor mother. You're like, everyone's gonna be like, he never cared about any of those bitches. He's just gonna fuck. You know? And I was like. And then I was like, you know what? Like, I'm an adult. She's an adult. It felt right in the moment, like it happened. Like it's. And I don't regret it. It's like it just happened.

[Alex Cooper]

Did you do it in the bed when not everyone's in the room? Yes, Rob. That's a yes.

[Rob]

I didn't say no.

[Alex Cooper]

You did, because this is a podcast.

[Rob]

That's bad journalism.

[Alex Cooper]

No, People. Yeah, you Just gave me a yes in your eyes.

[Rob]

I didn't say. Because if you.

[Alex Cooper]

If it wasn't, you'd say no.

[Rob]

I'm about to onion back up, right?

[Alex Cooper]

No, no, no. We're not onioning. We are so peeled down. You're doing so good.

[Rob]

You really have. You're good at this. I will give you credit. You're pretty good at this.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you. You're a hard one to crack. Like, I will say everyone at home that's like, why don't you ask in this? I'm trying, but we have gotten progress. Okay, so you did it in the room. Did you come, like, just on the sheets? Did housekeeping have to clean that up the next morning? Robert.

[Rob]

You use my full name.

[Alex Cooper]

That's some tea. You've said nothing.

[Rob]

That is tea. I've said no. Words. Words for what you're saying.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, did your. Did any of the people on the island know it happened? Until she said, no one knew.

[Rob]

That was the funniest part. I don't know how many conversations they put in. But Miguel, like, I think it was literally the next day, he was like. He was like, yeah, bruv, I just don't think that I could have sex in here. Like, it's just not something I'm gonna do. And I'm like, dude, me either, bro. And Cassie's sitting right next to me. I was like. I was like, dude, me either. Like, especially, like, in the room with everyone. Could never do that. He's like. He's like, yeah, bro. Like, I mean, honestly, if someone did, I would rate it. But, like, I. It's just something I wouldn't do. And I was like. I was like, yeah, bro, couldn't be me. And I looked at Cassie, she was.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, you're like, I feel light as a feather right now. God, you had been waiting for that.

[Rob]

No, I wouldn't say I've been waiting for it.

[Alex Cooper]

Not like, I mean to like, oh.

[Rob]

I was like, release built up.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, Daniela, one word.

[Rob]

I'm trying to.

[Alex Cooper]

You can use a couple words.

[Rob]

Affectionate. Live strong.

[Alex Cooper]

Andrea.

[Rob]

Understanding.

[Alex Cooper]

Leah.

[Rob]

Lovely.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, now you got us all making, like, clips of that. Think about how many fan edits are getting.

[Rob]

It's alliteration. Lovely. Leah. Like, come on, chill the out.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, I want you guys to be together.

[Rob]

Stop. You're just saying that because of the edits. You watch the edits. They worked on you and that's what you want.

[Alex Cooper]

They did work on me. And I should know better. I, like, know, know this can.

[Rob]

Come on. Come on.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, okay. If you had to go into the Hideaway with one person from this season right now, who would you go with?

[Rob]

That's nuts. No, that's nutty. Ariana. Anyways, next question.

[Alex Cooper]

She looked amazing this year.

[Rob]

She looked so good. She was always wearing see through clothes. I was like, what's up with her? Not really wearing clothes all the time.

[Alex Cooper]

How many times did you guys think she was a bombshell?

[Rob]

Walking in once. But also I thought she was an islander when we. She was sitting there with them when we walked in. And I went around and shook everyone's hand. I shook her hand. I was like, nice to meet you, I'm Rob. And then I was like, oh, you're like. Yeah, it was really.

[Alex Cooper]

There's a clip of, like, Cordell at one point, and everyone's like, it's Ariana Darion. And Cordell comes out, he's like, who the fuck is that?

[Rob]

He's blind as a bat. You can't see shit. It's so funny.

[Alex Cooper]

Serena and Cordell are so cute now.

[Rob]

I love them. I love them both individually.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

So it makes me easy like him as a couple. You know what I'm saying? Like, they had their struggles.

[Alex Cooper]

They're really dope.

[Rob]

But that's why I think they'll. They'll be good, I think, because, like, they had a hard time. They got through a lot, but, like, yeah, they're both dope.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, who is the best kisser of the season?

[Rob]

Andrea.

[Alex Cooper]

You guys did seem like you had a good little.

[Rob]

Yeah, I would say.

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Andrea.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, I need you to clear something up. During the body count game, your answer was mysteriously just completely skipped over.

[Rob]

Really?

[Alex Cooper]

They didn't air it.

[Rob]

They didn't air it.

[Alex Cooper]

So what is your body count, Rob?

[Rob]

It was probably because it was boring.

[Alex Cooper]

What was it?

[Rob]

25.

[Alex Cooper]

Is that a fake number?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

That feels fake.

[Rob]

It's not fake.

[Alex Cooper]

That feels fake.

[Rob]

It's not fake.

[Alex Cooper]

It's not.

[Rob]

No, it's a good estimation.

[Alex Cooper]

Estimation.

[Rob]

It's good. It's 25. We 26 now.

[Alex Cooper]

Lucky number.

[Rob]

Is it? Oh, no, it's not. 23 is lucky number. Past it.

[Alex Cooper]

Is 23 your lucky number?

[Rob]

When I go to casino, I put on red 23.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay. Do you go to Vegas a lot?

[Rob]

I used to when I lived in la.

[Alex Cooper]

You lived in la?

[Rob]

I mean, you could hardly say that. I was here for a year.

[Alex Cooper]

Why?

[Rob]

Work.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

Thunder.

[Alex Cooper]

What?

[Rob]

Just kidding. It's a joke. Wait, that was a joke? So, Connor. Yeah. Yeah, so. So the picture they took for me for, like, my My picture. Everyone thought I looked like a porn star. And so Connor came up with the name Rob Thunder. That was like me.

[Alex Cooper]

You kind of are giving porn star right now. Like, I'm waiting for you to, like, gyrate on the chair.

[Rob]

Not gonna happen.

[Alex Cooper]

You're not gonna do that, though. Anyways. Okay. What is the weirdest place that you've ever had sex?

[Rob]

Airplane.

[Alex Cooper]

Airplane.

[Rob]

Maybe like. Yeah, that's a good one. Library.

[Alex Cooper]

Library.

[Rob]

Yep. Everyone's reading.

[Alex Cooper]

Well, clearly you can be quiet. No one knew in the villa that you had had sex. Okay, Are you actually taking a break from dating? I know you keep saying it. Like you're thinking, like, you're. You gotta chill on that. Like, you're gonna have everyone as friends.

[Rob]

I just can't. I can't imagine, like, trying to get to know someone right now. I can't imagine, like, giving someone my full attention and, like, actually being able to be present it.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, what are you thinking right now? You need to, like, run home to Alabama and, like, get in your bed and, like.

[Rob]

No, like, get in the woods. Like, leave my phone at home. I need to go in the creek and. Yeah, I'm not kidding. Like, I really need that. It's like my therapy.

[Alex Cooper]

When you pick up your first snake, what are you gonna do to it? Kiss it?

[Rob]

No, no.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh. Have you ever kissed a snake?

[Rob]

Yeah, of course. If it feels right.

[Alex Cooper]

If the mood is right.

[Rob]

If the mood's right, we'll give a little. Little cutie.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, so you're ready to get back to the movie Woods?

[Rob]

Y.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you going to continue to be a snake wrangler? Are you going to, like, start popping up? Are you going to do the reality stuff? Are you going to go back on another reality show? Like, what do you think's the vibe?

[Rob]

I have no idea. They, like, they've asked me a lot, like, what I want to do from this. Cuz, like, the show did the bet. It did. It's number one. It beat every other show in America. Yeah, it was the number one streaming insane. Which I did not see coming. So, like, yeah, like, think I'm just going to keep catching snakes. I mean, like, if I get a really good opportunity, like, maybe, like I said, I'll be like, ah, it. Whatever. Like, that's kind of how I live my life. Like, that's why I went on Love Island. That's why that situation had, like, I didn't apply for that, you know? Like.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Rob]

So, yeah, something that comes across, like, I was like, survivor. Oh, I would do that. Like, some like that.

[Alex Cooper]

Are you gonna see everyone for the reunion? Isn't there a reunion? There's a reunion coming up. Are you excited? Are you nervous?

[Rob]

I would say I'm nervous.

[Alex Cooper]

Why? Why?

[Rob]

I don't know. I don't know. Just when I think about that, the stress chemical in my brain comes out.

[Alex Cooper]

What stresses you out?

[Rob]

I'm press procrastinating, thinking about it.

[Alex Cooper]

No, we have. We're almost like, basically the last question, I promise. We have two more questions. Okay, so we'll take our time. What are you stressed about going to this reunion?

[Rob]

Well, I feel like. I feel like. I don't know. I'm just interested to see, like, who's still together and, like, how everything is going and for everyone and just, like, everyone together again. Like, I think a lot of people went to the Internet and maybe some things have been said that are, like, not great about other people and that's gonna be a thing for sure.

[Alex Cooper]

I mean, but you have been kind of not causing drama.

[Rob]

I'm just being honest. Like, anything I've said, I'll be like, yeah, I said that. I meant that.

[Alex Cooper]

So you have nothing to be worried about now.

[Rob]

No, no. Know, I just. The situation in general. Yeah. That's just gonna be like, not just me. No, not with me. I'm thinking about other people. Like, I'm like, how the is that gonna go? Like, why?

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, will you tell me off camera who you're the most nervous about?

[Rob]

I'll tell you off camera.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, okay. Okay. But you're gonna go and you're gonna be like, drama free. Because you kind of. What if Miguel and Leah aren't together?

[Rob]

I'd be like, damn. Sorry, guys. I'd be like, damn, that sucks. I was really rooting for y'all. Take their hands.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay, Rob, closing statement. What would you like to say to the ladies of America who love or hate you?

[Rob]

Hate is the closest emotion to love. I'm just kidding. Thank you. I don't know. It's confusing. I'm confused. You know something? I kind of saw myself, like, after. Obviously, there was a lot of drama at the beginning, but after that, I just thought I was kind of a background character actor. Like, I didn't really feel in the show anymore, so I just was kind of like, yeah, whatever. I'm just chilling. And then I was surprised when I came out. I was like, a lot of buzz about everything about me.

[Alex Cooper]

What do you think this episode is evoking? What do you think we're giving today?

[Rob]

I don't. I Blacked out. I don't really know.

[Alex Cooper]

I kind of liked all too.

[Rob]

I was.

[Alex Cooper]

I feel like I had to ask you the same question over and over to get you to answer. And then we just kept going, and I think we got a lot of answers. Right, right.

[Rob]

You did all the, like, the stuff I thought, like, all the, like, drama stuff.

[Alex Cooper]

Right.

[Rob]

All that stuff. It's all good.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, I'm. And I know you're not going to answer the questions of, like, who did you not like in the villa? Would you answer that? No. Exactly. You're shaking your head. For those of you that are listening, driving to work. He's shaking his head.

[Rob]

I mean, I. I mean. So why would you want to talk about that? Why would you want to focus on the negative? I know. I know. You're saying you're not. I know.

[Alex Cooper]

But you know that people are going to be like, why the. Did you guys not ask certain questions? Questions like when. Okay. The one move moment from movie night when you saw Leah making fun of you crying.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

And then she apologized, and it seemed super genuine.

[Rob]

Yeah, it was great. Like that. Oh, yeah. That was okay.

[Alex Cooper]

So how did you feel about that?

[Rob]

So. So after not leaving, after Andrea left.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I was, like, kind of regretting it a lot. And that moment made me the most happy. I was about staying. That moment was so great for me, like, and for us, I thought, which was. I really liked. It gave us closure, and it was in front of everyone, which I loved, because I'm not the kind of person that, like, I feel like there was weirdness in the villa about Leah and I, but I'm not the kind of person that's gonna go to everyone and, like, give my side of the story, blah, blah. Like, I'm just gonna, like, let my actions speak for themselves.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

But in that moment, I was given the opportunity to, like, talk with her and stuff, and I thought it was really good for us. And then we had a great conversation after that. And, yeah, we just, like, we got back to being friends, and, like, it was good.

[Alex Cooper]

The heart rate challenge. Do you get a little excited?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

You did.

[Rob]

I did not.

[Alex Cooper]

You got excited for Leah.

[Rob]

I got excited.

[Alex Cooper]

Oh, you mean like a boner? No, I'm just saying, like, you got the most.

[Rob]

The way you look excited. That's how you said it. You said it like a boner. Like, don't make me weird.

[Alex Cooper]

You thought it.

[Rob]

You thought. You said it like that. You said you get a little excited. You winked at me.

[Alex Cooper]

You got a little excited. Like, your heart Rate went up the most for her.

[Rob]

Crazy.

[Alex Cooper]

That's why the fan edits are hard popping off. Rob.

[Rob]

I don't. I just did.

[Alex Cooper]

No, I actually think Miguel is an awesome guy and it's going to be interesting to see. This is the fascination around the show. It's like he. What? He lives in the uk, right? And she lives in Calabasas. It's going to be interesting for people. And same with Aaron, right? Like, he doesn't.

[Rob]

He's been to America.

[Alex Cooper]

Where does Kaylor live? Oh, my God. I'm from Pennsylvania.

[Rob]

She's from a town of 6,000.

[Alex Cooper]

No, no, no. Is Aaron going to move there? There?

[Rob]

Surely not.

[Alex Cooper]

No, they're gonna move to la.

[Rob]

Aaron will hate la.

[Alex Cooper]

I don't know. Aaron seems to love those flashy lights.

[Rob]

He will hate la. You think I hate la? That's why I moved. No offense. It's great for other people. Too much concrete for me.

[Alex Cooper]

Too much concrete?

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

You need the woods. Okay. Rob, is there anything else you want to say? Like, do you feel like you got everything off your chest?

[Rob]

I'm sure after this I'm gonna think of a million things. I'm like, damn, should have said that.

[Alex Cooper]

But, like, let's leave it for now.

[Rob]

Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

I'll see you in a year. We'll catch up, we'll check in, see how you feel about it all.

[Rob]

Whatever you need.

[Alex Cooper]

Thank you, Rob, for coming on.

[Rob]

Thank you.

[Alex Cooper]

This was lovely. Yeah, it was a nice time.

[Rob]

It was good. I was like. It was good.

[Alex Cooper]

Like, you didn't feel like it? Was it harder than you thought it was gonna be?

[Rob]

No.

[Alex Cooper]

Was it more fun than you thought it was gonna be?

[Rob]

Yes.

[Alex Cooper]

That's good. You came in here nervous.

[Rob]

Yeah. Definitely. I'm still nervous.

[Alex Cooper]

Do you want to call Dave Portnoy?

[Rob]

Yes. I love Dave Fortnight.

[Alex Cooper]

Wait, you're a barstool guy.

[Rob]

Not really. But I like him. He's just, like, cool. I know people hate him, but, like, I like him. Dave, I think he's just Dave. I like genuine people. It was the same. Yeah.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Rob]

I like genuine folk. I like people that are just themselves and they don't really give a fuck.

[Alex Cooper]

Dave is honest. Dave is very honest. Even if it hurts your feelings. He's honest.

[Rob]

He's gonna be honest. He's gonna be Dave. I like that about him.

[Alex Cooper]

Okay.

[Rob]

He's a funny guy.

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