Stassi Schroeder: A Proud Basic B*tch (FBF)

Summary

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Call Her Daddy – Stassi Schroeder: A Proud Basic Btch (FBF)*

Date: November 28, 2025
Host: Alex Cooper
Guest: Stassi Schroeder

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Episode Overview

In this throwback "Call Her Daddy" episode, Alex Cooper sits down with reality TV star, author, and podcast host Stassi Schroeder for a candid, unfiltered conversation. Together, they explore Stassi’s experience as a proud “basic bitch,” the realities of pregnancy, lessons from her 20s, the evolution of her career, and the highs and lows of reality TV fame. With humor and vulnerability, Stassi opens up about everything from body image while pregnant to her infamous “dark passenger” moments, misadventures in fashion, and how her personal life and relationships have changed with age.

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Main Topics & Key Insights

1. Pregnancy, Body Image & Compliments (03:31–08:21)

• Stassi describes feeling better during her current (second) pregnancy, which is not under COVID restrictions like her first:
  “It feels like my first pregnancy because my first one was during COVID so I wasn’t allowed to leave my house. Now I’m able to live my life this time around.” (05:34)

• On dressing for the interview and body image:
  “When you’re pregnant and you feel like you look like a beast, it’s extra hard. …Pregnant women everywhere need to hear that…If you see a pregnant woman on the street, just be like, ‘You didn’t even look pregnant.’ That’s what we want to hear.” (04:49)

• Stassi appreciates compliments from other women more than from men or even her husband:
  “I need to hear I look beautiful from other women…There’s just something about a compliment from another woman that really is what, like, feeds my soul.” (06:30)

2. The Realities of Pregnancy & Sex (07:14–09:43)

• On sex drive and maintaining intimacy:
  “I literally have zero sex drive. But I will say that I am a champion, and I take one for the team in my household…sometimes you gotta just…It does bond us. Once we do it, I’m like, ‘Oh, so glad I did this. I should do this more.’” (08:43–09:17)

• Stassi’s alter ego during pregnancy:
  “When I’m pregnant, I feel like I’m Santa. I look in the mirror and I’m like, everything’s round and I’m just jolly.” (09:48–10:07)

3. Fashion Hits, Misses & The OOTD Holiday (10:21–15:12)

• Stassi shares the cringe and financial regret of buying the national “OOTD” (Outfit of the Day) holiday:
  “I bought a national holiday…It was like $40,000. And you only own it for a year!” (10:37–12:26)

• Reflection on past fashion:
  “Statement necklaces. I rode so hard for statement…If you look back on like Vanderpump Rules interviews, I’m like, how huge did I think that that…? That was the outfit.” (13:17–13:53)

• Praise for Gen Z’s approach to fashion:
  “Gen Z…have this like, anything goes mentality about fashion and clothing that I just really fucking love. I found what looks I like and whether they’re dated or not, I kind of don’t care. Gen Z gave me permission.” (14:10–14:39)

4. Pregnancy Real Talk: The Shaving Dilemma (16:30–17:36)

• The challenges of grooming while pregnant:
  “No, I can’t see. I go rogue…I literally feel around…At a certain point, you can’t see. You just have to feel for it.” (16:48–17:08)

5. Career: Writing, Imposter Syndrome, & Tour Life (18:06–22:33, 68:16–71:41)

• Stassi on being a two-time New York Times bestselling author and working on her third book:
  “We all suffer from imposter syndrome…I’m working on my third right now…it’s harder because...I have to be specific about, like, with one thesis…and I was struggling a little bit with what that was.” (18:12–19:12)

• She loves touring ("I love it. ...If I can do anything ever again, wow. Like, please let it be touring." 68:34) but admits it can be grueling—especially as a mom and pregnant:
  "I can't be gone, like, six days at a time. I miss Hartford too much…Next time, 3 days then home…" (70:14–70:44)

• Sobriety on tour:
  “Now I think I have the most energy out of everyone that I’m traveling with because I’m sober...sobriety really suits me, it's just not fun.” (70:47–71:36)

6. Basic vs. Cheugy: The Rules of “Basic” (22:33–23:45)

• Stassi’s definitions:
  “Cheugy is kind of cringe…anything that’s basic is just like leaning in so hard to something you really love and doing that unapologetically.” (22:41–23:22)

• Alex adds:
  “Basic, to me, is a timeless situation…a lot of people are doing it…there’s a reason those things are popular—they spark joy.” (23:22–23:31)

Game: "Basic or Not Basic?":

• Aperol Spritz:

  • Stassi: "That’s the most basic—no, it’s my favorite drink in the whole world...Worst part of pregnancy is not being able to have multiple Aperol spritzes all day, every day." (23:58–24:20)

• Get Ready With Me Videos (GRWM):

  • Stassi admits she thought it meant "grown woman" and did not understand the trend at first. (24:35–26:46)
  • "That’s because it works for me. …At least you’re not trying to pretend you’re in a generation you’re not." (25:29–25:41)

• TomTom Bar, Ozempic, Manifesting, and more:

  • Stassi openly admits curiosity about Ozempic, praises manifesting, and shares her own experience manifesting her dream Spanish-style house. (27:38–32:31)

7. Reality TV: Scandals, Growth, and Leaving the Scene (32:53–38:19, 43:16–44:40)

• Stassi on tuning back into Vanderpump Rules after “Scandoval” broke:
  “When it happened…you never forget where you were that day…that’s how I feel about fucking scandoval.” (33:27)

• On Tom Sandoval:
  “I mean, no [I didn’t like him]. And he never liked me. Not being on this last season…my talents were wasted because I could have really just, like, given it to him and been like, I always knew.” (35:20–35:37)

• Why she left reality TV and doesn’t want her family involved:
  “The success of a show is directly tied to how badly the cast hurts each other…and that feels weird. …I don’t think I’d want to put my family in a position…[where] success is tied to how much you can hurt each other. It’s not a healthy place.” (38:01–38:19)

8. Internet Hate & Cancel Culture (43:44–45:45)

• On Tom Sandoval’s backlash:
  “I don’t like where we’re at in society where…that’s how we punish people. It’s like emotionally beheading people…Who makes someone the authority on what’s enough hate?" (43:51–44:24)

• Alex agrees, noting the outsized toll public piling-on can take, especially compared to how actual infidelity is handled in real life. (44:56–45:41)

9. Personal Growth: The 20s vs. the 30s (46:40–54:31)

• Stassi reflects on her character from her Vanderpump days:
  “I was so incredibly selfish. Like, I still have selfish tendencies…But like, I really, truly thought the world revolved around me. …Now that I’m older, I think that’s such an overrated quality.” (46:46–47:32)

• What she misses about her 20s:
  “Being selfish. Leaning into it, and not knowing that it was wrong. …But I’m so much happier now, not living for myself.” (48:38–48:58)

• On her 30s:
  “I’ve learned…the power of saying no to things and not caring about, like, is someone gonna be mad at me…like, I prioritize my happiness and well-being.” (50:21–51:14)

• Difference between “hammered in your 20s” vs 30s: “I would fully black out in my 20s.… Now because I have a kid, I can’t… I feel like I’m kind of the same as I am right now, just having a better time.” (51:28–52:22)

10. The Infamous "Dark Passenger" (52:55–58:19)

• What is the "Dark Passenger"?
  “I would go absolutely psycho on [Bo]…breaking phones, texting him 73 times in a row, yelling, screaming, threatening things like violence…anger is the only emotion that overtakes me. I see red...That’s what the Dark Passenger used to be.” (55:03–56:03)

• Why she feels justified at times, given her relationship history and group drama:
  “Nothing good happens after hours…That’s when we put a name to the Dark Passenger…” (57:09–58:19)

11. Drama, Therapy, and Settling Down (60:23–67:38)

• Does she miss drama?
  “Yeah, sometimes…I know I say this to Bo a lot. Actually, we should get in a fight and I should dark passenger because it would just, like, make me feel so passionate. That would probably make me horny.” (60:23–60:33)

• On bringing trust issues into her relationship and going to couples therapy:
  “We started going to therapy really early on in our relationship because I had all of those freak out moments…he had never given me a reason, but we had to talk through it.” (61:47–62:51)

• Why her relationship with Bo works:
  “I could completely be myself…I never had to watch what I said…He would champion me, was so into my basic self…really accepting and a cheerleader.” (67:01–67:38)

• On moving from toxic relationships:
  “I think at some point…toxic became so boring to me…You have to also change your ways.” (66:09–66:58)

12. Motherhood, Boundaries, and New Projects (72:00–73:21)

• Stassi has a second child on the way, is working on her third book, on tour, and hosts two podcasts (one with Bo).
• She relishes the creative process:
  “I love the creative process of it…and meeting people from different places…touring is ridiculous how hard it is, but I love it.” (68:58–70:07)

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Notable Quotes & Highlights

• Stassi (on body image & fashion):
  “I wish I was one of those women—Rihanna—that, you know, has her belly out and looks so good…But I feel best when I’m in bags.” (05:13)

• Stassi (on her “OOTD” holiday purchase):
  “It was so embarrassing. I think it was, like, $40,000. You own it for a year, and I didn’t know that. Next year they were like, you gotta pay for it again. …Now, technically my name isn’t even up there.” (10:51–12:26)

• Stassi (on Tom Sandoval):
  “Why does he keep getting away with being just this dude who just wants to, like, give people things and help people out, man? I’m like, that’s not what I’m seeing.” (35:44)

• Stassi (on cancel culture):
  “I don’t like where we’re at in society where that’s how we punish people. It’s like emotionally beheading people.” (43:51)

• Stassi (on relationships):
  “Toxic is boring. …You have to go through it once or twice, but once you’re fed up, you have to change your ways.” (66:20–66:58)

• Stassi (on motherhood and marriage):
  “You better really like that person [your coparent]. Because when you have a kid, y’all are in it 24/7…There are gonna be days that are kind of boring, and you better really just like being around that person while doing all the monotony.” (63:05–63:52)

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Memorable Moments

• Stassi emotionally recalling how “Scandoval” felt like a 9/11 moment for Bravo fans:
  “You never forget where you were that day. That’s how I feel about fucking Scandoval.” (33:27)

• Stassi admits her first pregnancy “diet” was bone broth for six months—a detail she’s not eager to repeat. (28:42–29:09)

• Stassi’s “Santa” pregnancy persona and unapologetic honesty about embracing comfort and body changes.

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Pregnancy & Body Image: 03:31–08:21
• Sex & Relationship While Pregnant: 07:14–09:43
• Fashion & OOTD Holiday: 10:21–15:12
• Basic/Not Basic Game: 22:33–32:31
• Scandoval, Reality TV Reflections: 32:53–38:19, 43:16–44:40
• Personal Growth (20s vs. 30s): 46:40–54:31
• Dark Passenger Explained: 52:55–58:19
• Motherhood, Relationships, Therapy: 60:23–67:38
• Touring & Projects: 68:16–73:21

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains a conversational, self-aware, and irreverently honest tone—peppered with laughter, real talk, and a sense of solidarity over shared struggles and cringe-worthy moments. Both Alex and Stassi are quick to roast themselves and openly question cultural trends, all while rooting for growing up, finding peace, and loving your “basic” self.

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End of Summary

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

What is up, Daddy gang? It is your founding father, Alex Cooper with Call Her Daddy.

[C]

Finally. We.

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We did it.

[C]

We did it. We're here.

[B]

How's your mic feeling?

[C]

What do you mean?

[B]

I. I can you myself. Well, you. But you like. Is it close enough?

[C]

Oh, I mean, it's fine. Listen, normally I do it with headphones.

[B]

So you're. It's a little mind.

[C]

So. Yeah. So I don't feel like I'm doing a real podcast.

[B]

Should we doing headphones?

[C]

No. I look so much better like this.

[B]

You look great. I used to do headphones, and I was like, it's giving, like, more ogre vibe. Because it's just, like, so. Well, I'm like, just calling you an ogre because you wear headphones in your pocket, but you know what I'm saying?

[C]

No, it does, but I feel like I can't. Well, I'm not leading this podcast. You are. I can't lead properly if I can hear other things.

[B]

Okay. Like, do you have adhd?

[C]

I.

[B]

You're like, no.

[C]

I mean, I used to be addicted to Adderall, but I think I was just abusing it. I don't think I actually, like, no.

[B]

Doctor prescribed me Adderall. I did it myself.

[C]

I did it.

[B]

That's fair. I just realized I didn't even introduce you. Stassi Schroeder, welcome to Caller Daddy. Thank you.

[C]

I'm so excited. No, like, I know everyone says that, but I'm ridiculously excited. And this room is so chic. I'm just so obsessed with the color of this, the way it just.

[B]

These used to be orange, and I got them in here, and I was like, this needs to immediately change. Like, you don't feel. Call her daddy vibes from this. What is that noise?

[C]

A plane.

[B]

Okay, sorry, sorry. No, because there has been something happening with our air conditioner recently that. It sounds. It's like.

[A]

And then it.

[B]

I. I don't focus. Okay, that's probably. I should be wearing headphones. How did you pick your outfit today? We were just talking about.

[C]

Okay, wait, No, I have to tell you this, okay, because I haven't stressed out this much about a outfit. I can't even tell you. It was harder to pick an outfit for this right now than it is to, like, go on tour, go on a red carpet, fancy outfits, because. Let me explain, okay? I want to match your vibe. You know, I'm not here to, like, act like I'm going to some fancy gala, but you could. While you're wearing sweatpants and a T shirt. But, Alex, not everyone looks as cute as you do in sweatpants. As a T shirt. And when you're pregnant and you feel like you look like a beast, it's extra hard. So, like, it would have been easier for me to just, like, really, like, find a nice dress or outfit that's chic and nice and cool. Like, maybe, like, you know, a little bit businessy. I don't know, Whatever. But this. These are literally. I think this is, like, $10 from H M. I Think it's good?

[B]

No, I'm not.

[C]

These are maternity leggings.

[B]

I walked in and I said, I literally didn't notice you were pregnant for a second. Like, I have questions about you being pregnant, but I forgot. And I'm not just gassing you up. Like, I think you look pregnant.

[C]

Like, pregnant women everywhere need to hear that. You know what? If you see a pregnant woman on the street, just be like, you didn't even look pregnant. Like, you didn't even. It took me a while to realize that's what we want to hear.

[B]

It's true. And, like, the outfit is great because you were worried. Like, am I sitting? Like, can you see my belly? First of all, like, let it rock. But also, it. Because you're wearing all black, you can't really see it.

[C]

That's what I'm here for.

[B]

And the chairs are like, also, who gives a fuck? You're pregnant. That's amazing.

[C]

I know, but I'm not one of those who. I wish I was one of those women, Rihanna, that, like, you know, wears. That has her belly out, and my God, she looks so good. There's so many women that look so great like that. I've never felt that way. I feel best when I'm in bags.

[B]

Okay. You know? Well, this bag is looking phenomenal today.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

So you're pregnant.

[A]

How are you feeling?

[C]

Honestly, I feel really good because this pregnancy isn't during it. It feels like it's my first pregnancy because my first one was during COVID so I wasn't allowed to leave my house.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

You know what I mean? So I'm able to live my life this time around. I'm able to work, I'm able to travel. I'm able to go to restaurants.

[B]

You know, you probably didn't have anyone being, like, super sweet, too, and, like, holding the door.

[C]

No, I never got that experience. I never got, you know, and that is like, a rite of passage as a pregnant woman to be treated like a fucking queen.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

And you didn't get that?

[C]

No, now I'm getting it. So I'm just, like, feeding off of that energy, you know?

[B]

Okay. I do love that for you, because I do. I agree with you. Pregnancy and Covid obviously probably had pros of, like, you don't have to leave the house. You can just.

[C]

Yeah. So when you did look like a beast, it didn't matter. No one was there.

[B]

But I'm sure your husband still loved you so much.

[C]

He says he did.

[B]

Oh. Like, we're not divorced yet, so how does he handle your pregnancy? Like, what is he like when you're pregnant?

[C]

I mean, he really is great. Like, he. I really did luck out with that, but he can't. Like, he says that. He's like, I give you compliments all the time. I tell you how beautiful you are. I want to have sex with you all the time. I'm always coming after you. And I'm like, it doesn't matter. I need to hear those things from other women. I need to hear I look beautiful from other women. I need the compliments from other women. He tries so hard to make me feel good about myself. And, of course, I want my husband to desire me and want me and think I'm beautiful and all of those things, but there's just something about a compliment from another woman that really is what, like, feeds my soul. That's what keeps me going.

[B]

No, I get what you're saying. It's like, there's a difference between, like, men objectifying us. We're like, we get it. And, like, obviously, some men also, like, love when women are pregnant, too.

[C]

No, Bo's like that. So Bo is like, I look, I wish I could. I mean, I'm. Yeah. You talk about sex a lot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know why.

[C]

I just.

[A]

Wait.

[C]

I don't know.

[B]

Good Morning America.

[C]

Sorry, sorry.

[A]

Brain fog.

[C]

No, he's like, I want to. Like, I love your pregnant body. It's so sexy. I love when you change in front of me. I love all this, and I just feel gross. So I'm just like, no. I mean, thank God, because imagine if I, like, he was somebody who.

[A]

No.

[C]

Who didn't. Like a pregnant body.

[B]

That is actually something I've thought about. I've heard women say, like, he really just, like, wasn't into the pregnancy thing. And in my mind, I'm like, I don't know if I could be with a partner that doesn't at least fake it. But I guess you could probably tell if they fake it. You totally like Matt, like, my partner. I don't even. I'm not pregnant, and I pray to God I can get pregnant. But, like, if I get pregnant, all he talks about is like, oh, my God, like, I don't know how I'm going to control myself. And I'm like, what? Like, but.

[C]

But see, at least you have that, so it doesn't matter what. What side effects. Like, pregnancy side effects. Like, he will still be so into you, but at the same time, it's a burden because I don't feel sexual whatsoever. At all.

[B]

That's like, I was gonna ask you, like, how do you handle? Like, I think women are great online that talk about their pregnancy, but there's a little too much glamorization from what I've heard from some moms of, like, it's not all great, and sometimes you feel like about yourselves, and sometimes it's, like, not the sexiest that you're feeling. And so, like, can you talk about the real of, like, how are you feeling with your sex life?

[C]

Oh, my God. No, my sec. I literally have zero sex drive. But I will say that I am a champion, and I take one for the team in my household, and I don't let it go. Like, a week and a half. Like, I will. If I've. If it's like a weekend, you know, three days. I'm like, I should probably do this. Like, I'm being selfish right now.

[B]

No, but I think that's so relatable. And I feel like people don't like to talk about that. Of, like, sometimes you gotta just. And it's different if you're, like, hooking up with a random guy and you're like, I guess I have to sleep with him. No, no. This is your husband. It's your relationship. Sometimes you're like, I'm aware I have no sex drive. I still love you, and I'm attracted.

[C]

And I want him to feel good about himself. And it does bond us. It's like, once we do it, I'm like, oh, so glad I did this. I should do this more.

[B]

Worse, with sex, you're like, if sometimes you're two in your head or you have no sex drive that month or whatever it is, you're like, I literally can't even get myself there. I know I love him, but, like, I'm not there. And then afterwards, you're like, we should do that more. And they're like, fudge you. I know you. I literally ask you all the time now. Sometimes it just takes, like, going through the act.

[C]

Yes. 100%, yes.

[B]

Okay. Do you have, like, an alter ego when you're pregnant?

[C]

This is how I think of myself. I. When I'm pregnant, I feel like I'm. I'm Santa. I'm not joking. I just feel like this round, jolly.

[B]

What is alter ego? He's like, so I'm Santa through and through. Like, for real.

[C]

Like, I look in the mirror and I'm like, everything's round. And I'm just jolly. And I'm just, you know, I'm so excited about the Baby, that. That, like. And I'm sober, so, like, you don't. I don't get depressed that easily when I'm pregnant.

[B]

Right, right. You're not, like, having the up and down of, like, getting hammered one night, waking up, like, regretting your life, backing up. You are, like, the queen of ootds.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

Like, I. I remember literally, like, back in the day, like, everyone would start hashtagging it, but you really, like, owned it. You're like, this is my outfit of the day.

[C]

I bought a national holiday. What a waste of money. Yeah. Honestly, that's so cringe.

[B]

You actually bought it.

[C]

You have to buy it. You don't just get to, like, own holidays for free, Alex.

[B]

Like, how much did it cost? Is this gonna be embarrassing?

[C]

It's so embarrassing. I think it was, like, $40,000.

[B]

No, it.

[C]

It was. No, it's so embarrassing. And you guys, I would not do it again, okay? I would never just throw away that money to have a holiday. But at the time, I was like, oh, this is good branding. I was just in, like, business mode. My book was coming out. I'm like, I think that this is good branding. So it's like, I'm putting money into my career. That's how I felt. But no, I mean, hold on.

[B]

What exactly that feels like when people buy, like, a star in the sky. Can't we all just, like, that one thing? Like, what day is it?

[C]

It's. It's June 30th.

[B]

Okay. And it's not like, on all of our calendars. Like, Apple didn't upload. Like, so how do we even know you own it? Like, what was the point of buying?

[C]

Well, so can I tell you something? That, like, you own it for a year, and I didn't know that. And so the next year came around, and they were like, all right, you got to pay for it again. Or, like, the do. I think it was just the same amount of money. I'm like, you're out of your fudgeing mind. This is a lifetime commitment that you think I'm going to spend this every year. So now, technically, I think on the list, if you were to, like, search the list, my name isn't even up there anymore. But everyone on Instagram, it's already been hashtagged.

[B]

And.

[C]

And. Right.

[B]

All of that. Do you really think you had to buy it?

[C]

They thought I would. Like, honestly, Alex, I like, four.

[B]

I'm so embarrassed.

[C]

I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed.

[B]

No, I think it's.

[C]

I don't care if people come for me because like, I deserve to become for.

[B]

I agree. But I think it also gives though a little bit of credit to like, you really were committed and like, you are. I also just can't believe it was $40,000 for a year.

[C]

Yeah, no, A year.

[B]

Maybe not the best business decision. No, but I respect it. You loved it.

[C]

You know who I respect? The people who came up with this business.

[B]

I.

[C]

People who are just. Who are like, you know what? I'm gonna own a national social media calendar. How does one get the authority?

[B]

And were you just like little miss like Googling? Like, how do I get my own day? And like, I think I asked like.

[C]

My agents or my publicist and I was like, how do I find my holiday?

[B]

And they I want one. Okay, well this does go give you credibility. Why? I don't know, I just feel like you, that gives you some type of credibility. Like in the fashion world, like, you're giving like you're, you're dedicated.

[C]

First of all, the fashion world, they don't say ootd.

[B]

No, you're right.

[C]

You are like, I just literally ostracized myself from the fact.

[B]

Right? You're like never getting invited to anything.

[C]

100.

[B]

But you like fashion. I love it.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, what clothing staple did you used to wear that you would not be caught dead in? Now, like, what's something that you were like, oh, I fucking love this shit. Now you're like, huh, Statement necklaces.

[C]

I rode so hard for statement.

[B]

I remember that.

[C]

You know what? They will come back again. Not in the way that I wore them before, but I mean like they weighed me down. Like they were, it was like they were battle, like to wear into battle, like the plates of armor, like it was, it's insane. If you look back on like Vanderbump rules interviews, I'm like, who. How huge did I think that that.

[B]

Like your whole chest.

[C]

That it was, that was the outfit.

[B]

But it will come back. That's what like I, I was gonna ask you, like, what's a trend that you're like so not into? But I don't really care about trends. Cuz I'm like, it always comes back. It's not an actual trend. It's like, this is fashion and it's just what's in what's not sure. But like it's gonna come back.

[C]

It does it. It always comes back. And you know, now I'm to the point. God, I love Gen Z. I really do. I really appreciate them because they have this like, anything goes mentality about fashion and clothing that I just really fudgeing love because I feel like while they do follow trends, they don't at the same time, it's kind of like just express yourself and wear what you feel comfortable in and what you like. And. And I've found what I, what looks I like and whether they're dated or not, I kind of don't care. And Gen Z gave me permission. So.

[B]

You know what? I agree with that because I feel like back in the day when I was growing up, if you didn't have like the double popped Abercrombie polo with like the lace pull and like the denim skirt and the leggings and you're like, you're a loser. Who were nobody.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

You were a loser. You weren't in the in crowd. And so like I remember begging my mom, like, I know this is so expensive but like, this is literally for my social equity. Like I'm not going to be respected on dress down days if I can't wear this 100%. No one actually cares that much anymore.

[C]

No one cares. You can get away with so much. What a glorious time to live in.

[A]

You're right.

[B]

And everyone loves the dupe. Like everyone's like down for like if it's real. Actually people are like, that's like nasty.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Why are you.

[C]

Yeah, like why are you buying national holidays? Like that's. But that's giving the same energy. Wait, can I just say this?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay, so when you were in Milan, you were there for Prada, right? Yeah, I was just talking to my hair and make a person about this. I was like, alex in Prada is such a good like mix and vibe and relationship. You are such a good product, girly. So like, I hope that that like keeps going. That keeps going and just like builds into just like something bigger because that was like. So I would not have thought that neither until I saw your photo either.

[B]

Me either. Sassy.

[C]

Well, because I just see you just being casual and everything. But then I saw you in your looks and I'm like, yes, I really.

[B]

Appreciate that because I will say I was nervous because I too never envisioned like what fashion house would I like jive with the most. And when I found the Prada moment, it felt so me and I actually felt so comfortable and confident which like I never going into these type events feel confident because I'm like, I'm a poser. Like I don't wear this all the time. Yeah. But now Prada, I've started to like buy my own from Prada and be like, I actually feel like if I'm dressing up, Prada feels right for me.

[C]

No, it does.

[B]

So I appreciate that.

[C]

Really fit well.

[B]

I loved it. This is, like, a really random fact that I learned on selling Sunset, and I don't know if it's true for everyone. So I need to ask you this, okay. On selling Sunset, there was a woman that's pregnant, and it was her first time being pregnant, right? And she was asking advice from other moms, and the other mom was like, oh, by the way, girl, like, yeah, you can't shave your V After, like, a certain amount of time.

[C]

No, I can't see. I go rogue. No, literally, like, this morning, I just. I guess.

[B]

You just guess.

[C]

I literally feel around and I'm like, so you.

[B]

Okay, that's good to know. So, like, you actually can't see it. But then that woman was like, so I just didn't touch it. I don't. I think it'd be way too itchy for me. And then she was like, or have your man do it.

[C]

Oh, no, I wouldn't. I don't trust any. No, I don't trust him with a razor. That just does not sound enjoyable. No, you can't see. At a certain point, you can't. You just have to feel for it. Yeah, I can't grow it out. It's way too itchy.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Because that's what I was thinking. Like, at least if you're. If you can't see your vagina over the belly, you're at least going to go rogue. But, like, you'll just. You're not getting it completely bald. You're just getting it down to a place where you're comfortable, that you're not itchy.

[C]

I mean, I try to get it, but I try to do as much.

[B]

And you're just like, you can't see shit.

[C]

I can't see you sit. I mean, we've done it for so long that, like, that's true. It's like muscle memory.

[B]

No, that's true. I do have a lot of women that still write in that are like, can you, like, give us a tutorial on, like, how to shave? And I'm like, girls, like, let's. Let's not really easy, like, this show. You can come here for a lot of things, but, like, I feel like you can, like, look it up somewhere and, like, we don't need to go that. Okay. And if, like, you're pregnant doing it, like, someone with that's not pregnant, and you can see that shit. Like, just take your time.

[C]

No excuse. Yeah.

[B]

Okay. You have written two New York Times bestsellers. Congratulations, you little brainiac over there.

[C]

It is really exciting when I hear it, When I hear other people say it, I'm like, God, like, you know, we all suffer from imposter syndrome. I feel like all of us. Yeah, we all do. Because it's like, well, you know, I wouldn't have that if I wasn't on the show and blah, blah, blah, and I wouldn't have that if this didn't happen. But, like, you know. No, that's really cool. Yeah, it's.

[B]

No, it is really cool. And I think it's also amazing that you've done too now.

[C]

Well, I'm working on my third right now. Yeah.

[B]

Wait, how long does it take you to write a book?

[C]

A long time. I. I worked on the proposal six months. Six months I worked, and it wasn't like that for my second book. And, like, my first book actually came a lot quicker to me. Also, this third one, it's. It's harder because, like, I'm. I'm really trying to be the way that I write. It's like I have to be specific about, like, with one thesis, like, and then everything spiders from that, and I'm just, like, struggling. I was struggling a little bit with what that was. So it took me a really long time just to do the Proposal.

[B]

Well, I was gonna say, like, I think there's so many people in Hollywood that have, like, that one book, and they're like, peace out. I just wanted to say I wrote a book. Clearly. You, like, really like doing this?

[C]

Oh, no, I love it. And that's why I started, like, for the first one, I was like, I want it to be a handbook so that if I wanted to keep going, the theme theme could change. So it's always still like a basic handbook to something. It's just depending on what's going on in my life.

[B]

It's such a good idea. And so I want to play a game.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

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[B]

So the whole like basic handbook clearly first question is, can you help us all decipher what is the difference? Or is there a difference between chewy and basic?

[C]

Okay, well, personally, okay, what I think, I think chewy is kind of cringe. It's like, you know, like cringe clothing or cringe, you know, things that I don't know. There's a cringe element to chewy. I personally think that anything that's basic, it's just like leaning in so hard to something that you really love and doing that unapologetically. It's like if you really love rom coms or if you really love murder docs and just like, leaning in and it's like, oh, God, you're so basic. But, like. But it makes me happy. It brings me joy. It's like leaning into the things that, like, really bring you joy and not giving a fudge if it's like, what's cool.

[B]

Basic, to me kind of is a timeless situation where, like, basic also means that a lot of people, though, are doing it. And it's just something that. That kind of is timeless. Yeah.

[C]

And it's. And there's a reason those things are popular. Like, because they feel good or they make you happy or like, I don't know, they Fudgeing, spark, joy. So, like, I'm saying being basic Santa over.

[B]

You're like, I can say it. You can't say it. Alex. Okay, we're playing a game. You're going to tell me if it's basic or not. Okay. And also you can just give me your thoughts on the topic in itself. Okay. Number one, Aperol spritz.

[C]

Are you.

[B]

That's the most basic.

[C]

No, it's my favorite drink in the whole world. I crave it every day. That's the worst part of pregnancy. The worst part is that I can't have multiple aperol spritzes all day, every day. Dude.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

I make Bo make them. So I'm like, I'm gonna have three sips and I literally swish it around my mouth for as long as I can.

[B]

Spit it out.

[C]

No, I swallow it. My baby can handle a few sips. Tips of an abroad spreads. But, like, I literally swish it and hold it in there and I'm like, oh, that felt good. That feels good.

[B]

That feels good. I love them so much. And I think people consider them basic, but I think they're great. So that's great.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Get Ready With Me videos. Oh, my God.

[C]

So I didn't know what this was. And I'm a big tick tock fan.

[B]

Okay, okay, okay.

[C]

And all of a sudden, I just kept seeing GRW M m everywhere. And I was like, grown woman. I literally was like, what the fuck is everybody writing? Grown woman? Like, what is this stuff? Because not all Get Ready with Me.

[B]

Videos look the same.

[C]

They weren't all makeup. Some of them are, like, picking outfits. So, like, there was no theme right?

[B]

Away. And most of the time, it's a woman doing it.

[C]

Yes. So, like, I thought grown woman was the vibe. And, like, it took me, like, a few months to realize, I feel like, that it was get ready with Me. And this is the thing. I tried one. I put one out, like, three weeks ago. And how to do on. I feel like the kids loved it. Although I will say everyone was commenting being like, wow, 2016.

[A]

No.

[C]

And I'm like, oh, wait, I was trying to do a thing. You know, I was really trying to do a get ready with me. And everyone's like, this is so nostalgic. You do your makeup like, it's 2016. But I'm like, that's because it works for me.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Who cares? At least you're not trying to, like, pretend you're in a generation.

[A]

You're not.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, you know, putting the, like, foundation, like, letting it drop on your face. And like, I. I can't. I can't get. I can't with that. Like, it kills me every Get Ready with me that I see that people are just dropping the liquid on their face. Like, it's so. It's so not appealing.

[B]

Wait, how do you do it? I don't do it like me. You drop it. No, no, I don't. I don't. I'm just interested. Like, how do you do it?

[C]

Okay, well, I take my foundation and I have a tin and I pour some out, and then I use your hand. No, on a tin.

[A]

Oh, 10.

[C]

And then I use a brush or a sponge and like a normal fudgeing person, and then do the damn thing.

[B]

Do you think they're on to something that we don't know, though? No, I don't either.

[C]

I think they're bored, and I think that they're just coming up with new ways to do makeup when, like, what works already is there. So, like, I don't get it.

[B]

The fact that you thought that it was grown woman.

[C]

No, listen, Alex, I also got a lot of comments from people being like, I thought the same thing. So there are lots of millennial women out there who are thinking that it is grown woman.

[B]

I get it. I rwm Grown woman.

[C]

How would anyone just automatically know get ready with me?

[B]

What. What about GR makes you think grown? Good point. I like it. I think it's funnier. I think we should start leaning in and be like, grown woman video coming right out. Okay.

[A]

Tom.

[B]

Tom. Basic, not basic.

[C]

You know what I'm going to say? But I think it's basic. But, like, I Again, I love things that are basic, but, like, you can't get any more basic than, like, the. The representation of Vanderpump rules in bar form.

[B]

You go there.

[C]

I don't really, because I'm asking for attention if I go there. Do you know what I mean? Like, I really love it, and I'll go there if it's someone's birthday, so I'm going for someone. You know what I mean? But if I go there, everyone's gonna take photos. And. And I'm like, no, I'm not.

[B]

I get it.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

Ozempic.

[C]

Oh, my God. Like, I really want to try it.

[B]

When I give birth. You're like, I want to go on it now, but I am pregnant, so I'm going to wait. No.

[C]

The amount of times I've researched this being like, I mean, I think it's safe and healthy. Like, I think it's good for you. It's like taking vitamins.

[B]

Stacy, I. How do we put a disclaimer? Like, nothing that was said in this podcast medically, please do not listen to this.

[C]

But, like, come on, it's basic. Anyone who hears about Ozempic has to fudgeing. Be curious. You are a liar if you tell me that you have not thought about it, thought about jumping on that train.

[A]

I mean, not.

[C]

You don't need it. I don't mean you, but, like, like.

[B]

You should think about. I get what you're saying. I think it's. This is what I've started to realize. And maybe it's just like, with age. Like, I remember one of my things on here was bone broth, and I was thinking about the. All the debate with Gwyneth when everyone was like, you are, like, promoting bad eating that, like, for people, that's not realistic and whatever. And I'm like, why does everyone care? No, like, she didn't say to only eat bone broth for you. She was just being honest. Would you rather lie?

[C]

Her story. She's literally just. She's trying to be transparent, which is what everybody is asking of people. Please be honest and transparent so then you can't get mad about what you hear, right? When someone is being transparent or honest. So have I googled Ozempic and what it would be like, and am I thinking about it? Yes, I am. Because you were just talking about bone broth. My first pregnancy, I ate bone broth for dinner for six months after I gave birth, and I kind of don't feel like doing that again.

[B]

I love that for you.

[C]

I'm like, I don't want to.

[B]

I want a quickie. I want to know. Zempic. I'm an Ozempic girl, not a bone broth girl anymore.

[A]

We love that.

[B]

I love the honesty because that's what I. I got annoyed where I was like, I think people are really getting too triggered. Like, Gwenneth wasn't like, everyone should do this. She was asked what she eats in a day, and instead of being like a cheeseburger for dinner and a. She just told you, you don't have to do it.

[C]

Yeah, you don't have to do it. I'm like, would you want her to lie to you? And then you're gonna wonder, like, wait, why don't I look like this when I'm eating a cheeseburger for dinner? Like you.

[B]

You wanted.

[C]

I want to know that it's a struggle for Gwyneth. I want to know It's a struggle.

[B]

Me too. And I also love. It's like, people need to realize. I know the whole world influencer has really taken over. But, like, look inward. If you're being really heavily influenced by every single influencer on the Internet. Yeah, let's totally just do a little check.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Just a little check in.

[C]

Just be responsible for yourself. Be responsible for yourself.

[B]

Okay, so Ozempic. Ozembi. Okay, so she's gonna go on Ozempic. You're gonna tell us how it goes. You'll go on it.

[C]

Someone else doesn't have to ex. Okay. Yeah.

[B]

And then you're going to feel how you want to feel, and they can feel how they want to feel while they're on the elliptical. You're look at me now. Do you think you'll be promoting it that, like, you're on it or you won't talk about it?

[C]

I would like to. To think that I would be somebody that promotes it and talks about it, because, again, I really do. I love when other people are transparent and honest. So I want to be that for other people. But, like, God, people are really hard.

[B]

People are really hard on.

[C]

On that. On things like that. And it's like, do I feel like going through all of the hate that I'm gonna get if I'm honest about it?

[B]

Unfortunately, you're on caller daddy right now saying you're gonna do it. You know what would be the worst if. If you actually don't go on Ozempic and you're like, everyone in the gym and they're like, that bitch is on Ozempic. You're like, no, guys, I'm actually I.

[C]

Totally probably just fucked myself.

[B]

Right. No matter what, they're all either. Either like it's not working or it's working and you could have been doing it like organically. Okay, well, keep us updated. What do you think about manifesting?

[C]

I'm so basic.

[B]

You manifest?

[C]

I manifest the out of life. I think I've naturally been manifesting my whole life and just like, not know. When we were growing up, manifesting wasn't a word that we like.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. The way that we use it now, totally. But I think that I've always just been that way and I really, I really do ride so hard for manifesting because I feel like, like what works with manifesting is like you just envision that the things that you want are gonna happen, and then you slowly start working towards those things, whether you realize it or not.

[B]

True.

[C]

And like that is manifesting. It's like quite simple.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

Okay, give us an example. What's something like big you manifested and like, boom, it happened.

[C]

My whole entire life I wanted to live in a Spanish style home in the hills.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Okay. And I. When it got to the point where I was looking at, at houses, like, it just so seamlessly happened and I realized that like, wow. I had been like planning for this and working towards this and I'd always just said it and then I was like, I should have manifested bigger. I should have been like a ten million dollar house, Spanish style house in the Hollywood Hills. Like, why didn't I manifest a yard attached to that house? Like, I get what you're saying, but.

[B]

Like, okay, so you had this vision and now it's come true.

[C]

Yes, because you. Then I like, like I saved the money in order. Like I started like, or I would accept this job and put that money away to like start right. Being like, this is gonna happen for me, so I need to prepare for it when it does.

[B]

So kind of like back in the days, they would just say like a dream you have. Yeah. But now, now we have like a better word that's like a little bit more like proactive.

[C]

Basic.

[B]

As basic as. Okay. Are you watching reality TV shows? Shows?

[C]

Well, I just recently started watching Vanderbump Rules.

[B]

Dude, were you not watching it? No. And then you would catch up.

[C]

And then once scanwell happened, I was like, I gotta catch. I got. I didn't catch up, but like, I will. I've. I've seen like the last three episodes. So like, I've, I've been like, I should probably. I'm interested.

[B]

I want to see that whole drama. I can't imagine how annoying it was for you because, like, how many people wanted to hear your take on it?

[C]

No, you. You have no idea. In fact, like, it's interesting that you say that. That you can see that. That you can see that that would maybe be annoying. Like, when it happened. Like, it's like one of those things. I joke about this. That, like, you know, it's like when there's, like, a natural disaster or a world event, and, like, you never forget where you were that day. And, like, you could be at work or at school, and then, like, you stop what you're doing and, like, you. You get with your co workers and you find the nearest fucking tv, and then years later, you're like, I'll never forget who I was with and what we were doing. That's how I feel about fucking scandal.

[B]

Like, truly, I can't imagine, like. And what was your take?

[C]

Well, at first, I was just like, I. I don't think that this is real. But then I'm like, this is. I start texting the people that I. I know, obviously. And I was like, like, I mean, just, like, I think everyone's the same as everyone's reaction. Like, holy. And then I. I was like, I feel like I'm thrown right back into something that I've been away from.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

For so long. But it's. It's like, is it my place to be a part of it or is it not my place? I don't know. And then I have all of these people just DMing me. I mean, I've never been DM'd more about anything than I was about, like, I'm gonna. Or commenting and attaching or tagging me in it being like, I'm gonna need Stassi to weigh, and I'm gonna need Stasi to weigh. And I'm like, but I don't know if it's my place anymore. And I've been out of this for so long that, like, I think it would be kind of weird if I'm, like, going on my Instagram, being like, this is my dad. My take on.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And, like, it was all. It was. It's been kind of like a mind. Which is weird to say because it's not even happening to me.

[B]

I kind of agree. And I. That's what. When I had Ariana on, I was like. It was actually so weird because the amount of people that were like. Like, we kind of wanted you to have Raquel on. And I was like, this is why I also hate the Internet so much because whenever I have villains on the show, everyone's, like, canceled. When I don't have them on, then they're pissed. But when I have them on their piss, whatever. But did you ever like Tom Sandoval? No.

[C]

I mean, no. And he never liked me. And that's the thing, you know, I will say this. Not being on this last season, it's like my. My talents were wasted because I could have, you know, this was when I could have really just, like, given it to him and been like. I've always knew.

[B]

Right, Right. There's got to be something that everyone is seeing in him. But, like, he, I feel like, has always been a slime ball.

[C]

Well, that's interesting that you say that, just because I felt like he was always so, so beloved and so. And I would even. I would say to my producers, I'm like, when is he gonna get the edit? That, like, I. I feel like the rest of us see, like, why does he keep, like, getting away with being just this dude who just wants to, like, give people things and help people out, man? And, like, all of that, I'm like, that's not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing somebody who's constantly, like, blaming others for things and dredging things up from the past and, like. And just deflecting constantly. Yeah. Like, if, like, the rest of us look bad, then he looks. Looks good and.

[B]

Right.

[C]

And I've always felt that way. And so, yeah, I knew the fact that I'm not on it this season, it's like, you know.

[B]

Yeah. Do you miss reality tv?

[C]

I miss reality TV at times. Like, I loved filming. I love, like, that was. It was like, all my 20s were spent doing that. And, you know, I love the camaraderie of it. And I loved all my producers and the team and the cat. Like, it's fun. It's really fun. But. But, you know, there's something about, like, being out of it for so long and. And I watched that, like, the success of a show is, like, directly tied to how badly the cast hurts each other. And that, like, feels weird.

[B]

I agree. It's like, I think that's something that we're struggling with now is, like, watching it because there is social media. I. I feel like people are having a harder time, like, actually choosing a villain because it's also weird of, like. But then that person's life is actually ruined on social media and people are getting canceled and people are getting death threats where, like, back in the day, you kind of, like, then never saw the people. And it was like, whoa, that was a great show. Where now it's like, a little bit like, oh, people have to be really calculated to up and, like, how. How far are people going to ruin each other's lives? And is it honest? Is it. It real? Like, I don't know.

[C]

Yeah, it just. It's weird. It's dark. Like, when you really think about it, it's dark.

[B]

Right. Like, I feel like there's a. I think you have a good life now outside of it. It's almost better to be nostalgic for it than be still in it. And, like, look what's happening right now.

[C]

No, I. I think so, too, because I. I think, you know, obviously, I get asked all the time, like, would you go back to reality tv? Would you go back to Vanderpump Rules? All that stuff? And I'm like, I don't.

[B]

I.

[C]

You know, there might come a time when I'm like, oh, this makes sense. This type of reality TV that makes sense for me, or is a reflection on what really my life is like. You know, it might be a little more boring than what you're used to.

[B]

Seeing, but it's at least a little bit more authentic where you're not having to, like, really create that character again.

[C]

Yeah, but, like, I don't think I'd want to put my family in a position to be in something where, like, again, the success is tied to, like, how much you can hurt each other. And, like, I just don't. I don't. It's not, like, a healthy place. Place to be. Like, it's not good on relationships. You can be in the strongest relationship. And. And, I mean, if you think about it, it's like, Vanderpump Rules is like, who's betraying who, who's cheating on who, who's being shady. And, like, sometimes they. You know, they. Things are invented that, like, never even happened. And so to put that stress on a relationship, and then if you have children on top of that, I'm just not sure that that's, like, the healthiest thing for me. I do miss it.

[B]

No, I do. I get it. Like, it's almost like reality TV to a certain age should be appropriate because you actually. Your life is toxic and chaotic. Like, season one, it was like, you were so, like, in the best way, unhinged and, like, sanction. Like, I was like that with my boyfriends when I was in my late, like, early 20s. Then I think when you get to a certain age, it's like how you're just your life up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

For camera.

[C]

Yes. Yeah.

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[B]

Who are you friends with still from the cast?

[C]

Well, Katie's one of my best friends in the world. She's Hartford's godmother, and she was my maid of honor. And I'm still really close with Lala. And honestly, the producers, like, I'm. I hang out with the producers more than most people. Like, they're some of my closest friends.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yeah. So it's so weird to, like, be hanging out with them and we kind of don't talk about it that much.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean? Like, the show part of it. But now that, like, scan them all's happened, we talk about it a lot more, I guess.

[B]

How do you feel about how much hate Tom is getting online?

[C]

I mean, obviously I've been in a position where I've received so much hate before and, like, that's. I. I don't like where we're at, like, in society where, like, that's how we punish people. It's like a scent. It's like, it's, it's like emotionally Beheading people.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You know what I mean? And it's. And who's to decide what the punishment should be? Like, who, who makes someone the authority on that? Like, what makes this person on their computer the authority on. On what they think is enough hate for him to receive?

[B]

Right.

[C]

I don't get down with that. Like, I really, I don't like it. Like, do I like Tom Sandoval? No. Do I think what, like, what he did is disgusting and like him. But like, I see now I feel like I'm even adding to it, like the online vitriol.

[B]

But there's a level of like, if you're being asked about it, you can talk about it. And I think everyone with their friends can talk about it. But I do do think there's like a level of. We're just as bad of like, people that are going out of their way to comment on his photos or something and be like, go kill yourself. You're so disgusting.

[C]

It's like that, it's like that, that, that no one, like, let's, let's just like not do that as like a group of people, because it's like, not.

[B]

You probably didn't say that fully to like, even your dad when he cheated on your mom. And you guys have a divorced family now. Like, there's so many people that have gone through sadly, something very similar, like cheating affairs like that. And it's awful. But like, we don't know these people. So yes, they've put their lives out there for us. But like, at what point is it, like, talk to your friends in your group chat, but to actually make an effort to like, go wait outside of his house or to go make comments. It's like, let's.

[C]

And at some. Yeah. And at some point, like, that is how people become incredibly depressed and then suicidal. It's like, how would we all react if we knew that that's how it ended? One of.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. How? What? It just, it's not right.

[B]

You were obviously so different back in the day, as we all are, of like in your early 20s versus where you're sitting now on the show. You were probably one of my favorite characters because it was like I was watching a scene this morning. I was trying to. I was like, telling my friend I was gonna sit down with you. I'm like, no, you don't understand. Like, no one was more iconic than Stassi. Like, she would go into these, like, rage blackouts, basically. That looked like it on screen, where you were just like, I am the devil. And, like, just the. Was, like, so gold. And I'm like, are you gonna ever let your daughter watch the show?

[C]

I can't.

[A]

Hi.

[C]

I can't hide it from her forever. Like, so of course. I honestly just hope she learns from my mistakes. Like, I hope she sees it and cringes and is like, you were awful. And, like, I don't want to talk to you for two weeks. And I'm like, fair. And then she just literally goes, you know, that just swings her in the opposite direction. And she just wants to be this, like, lovely, kind child. But, like, that's fair, you know?

[B]

Okay. How would you describe yourself back then verse now to someone maybe that didn't watch the show? Didn't know. Yeah.

[C]

Oh, my God. I mean, oh, my God. I think so. Incredibly selfish. Like, I still have selfish tendencies. Like, 100%. That's always gonna be a personality trait.

[B]

Sorry.

[C]

It is. But, like, I really, truly thought the world revolved around me. I thought that everything that I was going through mattered to everyone. I just felt like what I had to say was so important. I was also one of those people that's like. I just tell it like it is. You gotta just deal with it.

[A]

And.

[C]

And now that I'm older, like, I don't like that about myself. And I think that's such an overrated quality because all you're saying is, like, you don't care about how your words affect other people. So, like, sometimes, like, it's good to just think before you speak. You know, it's, like, called being polite and gracious.

[B]

This true.

[C]

Like, I just, like. And there are still people that, like, you know, are in that reality TV world that are still like that, that are just like, why tell? Like, it is I'm honest. Like, if you can't handle the truth, then, like, I'm not for you. And I'm like, but do you really want to be that way?

[B]

I get what you're saying about, like, holding yourself back for maybe speaking about certain things, but again, the environment that you were in, like, that is what would make you a better person on reality tv.

[C]

Yeah. No.

[B]

So it's like. Like, it's almost like you were rewarded when you would say crazy was. Now it's like, when you're in private with friends, maybe we don't bring that into real life, but I get what you're saying of watching it back. You're like, why did I say that's how I feel about. When I look back at my. The earlier days of my show, I'm like, why did I say some of that stuff? That's also life.

[C]

Yeah. No, that's true.

[B]

But we just happened to be, like, recording our.

[C]

Yes. And we were rewarded for it. Just like you were rewarded for, like, things that would come out of your mouth. It's like, that's. That's how we're paid tot to be.

[B]

Totally.

[C]

Like, to say crazy shit.

[B]

Yes. What do you miss most most about being in your twenties?

[C]

Being selfish. Leaning into it, like, right. And, like, not knowing that it was wrong.

[B]

Right, right.

[C]

You know?

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's the delusion. It's like the not knowing any better and just really living for myself. But at the same time, it's like, I am such a happier person. Not living for myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, as, like, fun as it all was to be reckless and selfish, Like. Like, I am so much more at peace and such a happier person.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Now that I'm not like that.

[B]

I get what you're saying. Like, I was thinking about that as I wrote that question today. I was thinking, like, okay, I. I am 28, but I almost feel like I'm already 30, and I am, like, my earlier stages of my 20s. I feel like I thought I was having so much fun in the toxic relationships and going out and drinking, getting up and blacking out and, like, jokingly waking up and having all my friends in the room be like, I just ruined my life. And that's also, like, life, life. But there is some different level of peace you feel once you get over that hump where, like, I don't wake up with that anxiety of, like, what did I say to that person? Like, was I, like, mean? Like, did I up? Like, did I do something? Like, I don't know. It's, like, calmer.

[C]

It is. I mean, there's, like, a reason that, like, you know, elderly people are, like. My idea of fun is, like, staying in. In, like, watching, like, Downton Abbey. It's like, because. Because our preferences change as we age.

[B]

True.

[C]

And, like, I agree with that. Staying in, watching Downton Abbey is, like, the most fun you can have.

[B]

Do you often hang out with elderly folks?

[C]

Like, I said, honestly, I should find myself a pack of elderly friends.

[B]

They, like, come over one night, and there's, like, seven people that you just, like, went and picked up from the elderly home.

[C]

I mean, I'm always down for granny vibes.

[B]

I do love granny vibes, too. What do you love most about being in your 30s?

[C]

In my 30s? Oh, my gosh. I think that the. I've learned that, like, the power of. Of saying no to things and, and not caring about, like, well, is someone gonna be mad at me if I'm not going to what they just asked me to do or if I say no to like a FaceTime or, like, I don't respond to a text message? Yeah, like, I've prioritized as much as, like, I. It's funny that I'm saying this because it sounds like I'm being selfish, but I've just prioritized my, my happiness and well being. And I. I know how to do that and not worry about. Well, like. Well, so and so. Gonna be mad at me if I say no. Like, I'm allowed to say no. I'm allowed to say no.

[B]

Yeah, you are. I love that too. Because there's like. I get what you're saying. It sounds selfish, but there's a different level of maturity of like a freedom that you get instead of feeling like, oh, my God. But it has to be calculated. If I don't text them, it's because I'm, like, being mean. This is actually. I'm not feeling. Being mean.

[C]

I'm not being mean.

[B]

I'm just. There's just things that I don't want to do.

[C]

Yeah. I'm just kind of busy and I don't want to do that. Or like, I'd like to stay home with my daughter tonight. Like, I. I just, like, it's not for me. And honestly, I don't even owe an explanation.

[B]

No.

[C]

Like, knows all I have to say.

[B]

What's the difference between Stassi hammered in her 20s versus Stassi hammered in her 30s?

[C]

Oh, my God, I miss being here.

[B]

I know. How long? How much longer?

[C]

I'm due the beginning of September. That's a while. It's like three fucking months.

[B]

You got this. You got this.

[C]

Well, I would fully black out in my 20s. Like, I wouldn't remember things. And, and, And I. Yeah, I wouldn't remember what I texted, I wouldn't remember what I said. It was super emotional. Now because I have a kid, I'm not allowed.

[B]

Right.

[C]

I. I can't. It's unfortunate, but I can't let it get too far. So, like, I honestly, I feel like I don't have that much of, like a personality shift when I drink. Make me an alcoholic maybe, but I feel like I'm kind of the same as I am right now.

[B]

That's good. That's good. Okay. Love that. It's just like you have. You're just having a little bit better time. Yeah.

[C]

Like, I'm just having a better time. That's what it is. I'm just having a better time in my 30s because like, I'm not getting obliterated. Right?

[B]

You're not getting full blackout. That's fair. Speaking of being drunk, you talk a lot about dark passengering and I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea. Like, what does that mean? Like, can you you explain what that means?

[C]

Yeah, 100%. I can.

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[B]

You talk a lot about dark passengering and I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea? Like, what does that mean? Like, can you explain what that means?

[C]

Yeah, 100%. Again, I mainly did this. I did this, like, all throughout Vanderpump Rules, but, like, it became a thing when I started dating back bo. Okay. So I would go absolutely psycho on him. Like, I mean, breaking phones, texting him 73 times in a row, yelling, screaming, threatening things like violence. Okay. When I wouldn't get my way. And normally it was because, like, I would want to leave a party early because, like, I granny vibes. So, like, I'd want to go to bed at, like, 11, and he's so social, and he would want to stay out later. And I've always, always had, like, a trigger when it came to that because, like, honestly, I feel validated now because of scannable. It's like, shady things in that group of friends always happen after hours. So I would start freaking out. Like, what is. Why does he want to be out with my friends and not coming home with me? And I would go just insane on him. I would. I would. It was like. That's why he would call it the Dark Passenger. It's like, I would literally see red.

[B]

Red.

[C]

Like, anger is, like, the only motion that, like, overtakes me. I see red. I can't control it. I can't stop myself. Like, that is what the Dark Passenger used to be. But again, now, looking back in light of, like, you know, scandal and all that, I was right. To Dark Passenger, I was about to.

[B]

Say, as you were describing, that I think it's totally understandable if your partner for, like, one night occasionally is like, oh, my gosh, like, no, I'm having so much fun with my friends. Like, I want to stay out. If your partner, every single time you guys go out, is always lingering and you're going home alone, biggest red flag. You know what? Strange. Yeah, strange.

[C]

So true.

[B]

Why? Why would you want to stay and not come home with me?

[C]

Yeah, like, what exactly.

[B]

I can't imagine wanting to. Like, I. Again, I get it. If, like, I'm having all my friends are there, and my fiance's like, I really want to go home exhausted. I'm like, fudge. But, like, I'm having so much fun with my girlfriends.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Then I'm going to stay out occasionally. But, like, I don't think I've ever been. Like, I desperately want to stay at this party. I'm not single. I'm not looking for dick. Like, the dick I have is going home. Like, why don't I want to just go home with Them.

[C]

Yeah, no, thank you for validating me.

[B]

So, but don't you think for, like, a lot. A lot of people listening to this probably are like, huh? Like, I have this a lot with my partner where, like, they stay out so so many more nights than if I'm going home alone or like, they're going out without me all the time. Like, I guess to each his own. I personally wouldn't be down because I just wouldn't understand, like, why would your partner always want to be out without you?

[C]

No, I completely agree with that. And that was always my argument, like, so thank you. What is it. What is it that you want to be doing? Like, what is more fun than just, like, going to sleep with me?

[B]

Right. No, and I also get the trigger of, like, if you have ever been cheated on or again, and that's what would happen.

[C]

Like, you know when Kristen and Jax, like, season two or whenever, when, like, they. They did their thing like that. That was always, like, after hours after the party, after I had gone home. Like, so nothing good happens after hours. So, like, it makes me. It made me feel so weird when Beau would want to just stay out. And so that's. That's when we put a name to the Dark Passenger. But the Dark Passenger can really just, like. It means, like, anytime you just literally see red and, like, anger is the only thing, and. And you. You can't reason there. No logic.

[B]

Yep. There's. I feel like you had a lot of that for, like, birthday parties.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's talk about your birthday, because I. I want to relate to you here, and I can't. And I want to hear your explanation of, like, what your birthday means to you.

[C]

Oh, my God, I'm gonna disappoint you so much right now.

[B]

Why?

[C]

Okay, so the first few years of vanderpump rules, like, 100, I was a birthday beast, okay? I was so obsessed with my birthday, I have no idea where it is came from. You know what? I blame the fact that I am a summer, like, baby, and so, like, I never got to, like, really have birthday parties, like, where all the people could come. So, like, I, like, made it a much bigger deal as an adult or something. But, like, after the first few seasons of Vanderpump Rules, I stopped caring.

[B]

Okay?

[C]

I got it out of my system.

[B]

That's great.

[C]

Bravo would never let me stop caring. Bravo's like, no, but, like, this is.

[B]

This is a bit.

[C]

This is like your. This is your thing. Like, you are. People relate to this. This is like, your. You are the birthday Queen. And literally to this day, when people come up to me, like, 50% of the time, they're like, either saying the quote about the devil or like Pinot Grigio. And the other 50% of the time it's like, thank you for making me feel good about my birthday, dude.

[B]

I remember watching it and like, to people that didn't watch those seasons, like, the rage that took over you of like, it's my birthday. Sit down.

[C]

I know.

[B]

And like, be present. And I was like, I loved watching it, but I don't relate to that. And so I was like, I wanted to hear today. I. I think it's great you're over it. Yeah. So for your birthday now, you don't really care?

[C]

No, I don't really care. I think I was just always just like, channeling maiden character energy, you know, like when you, when you. When you're trying to have main character energy, you need to care about your birthday. Main characters care about their birthdays.

[B]

It's a whole month. It's a whole thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think, like, that actually for reality TV worked, I think on Instagram, it's annoying as when it's like, totally.

[C]

Is like my birthday month. We gotta stop 10 days for my birthday. I'm like, no one gives a.

[B]

It's not countdown. Like, no one cares. No one cares. Okay, we can we relate on that now. Okay. Do you secretly miss a little bit of drama in your life now you know that you don't have reality tv?

[C]

Yeah, sometimes. I know I say this to Beau a lot, actually. I'm like, you know what? We should get in a fight and I should dark passenger because it would just, like, make me feel so passionate. That would probably make me horny.

[B]

I get what you're saying. Like a little.

[C]

A little bit.

[B]

A little friction.

[C]

No. A little bit. I remember when we were in Vegas in December, actually, when I conceived, we were walking past, asked the sign for absinthe. Have you ever been to that show?

[B]

No.

[C]

Oh, it's so good.

[B]

Is it good?

[C]

Yeah, it's really good. And I was like, oh, my God, Bo, remember the last time we saw absinthe? Like, I full blown dark passengered on you and I was like, we should do that. That'll help us make a baby stop. And he thinks I'm insane and he thinks that's so unwell. But, like, I just think that, that I. I think makeup sex is fun.

[B]

I agree. I think men have, like, a little bit harder time, like, playing the role of, like, we're fighting but like.

[C]

But it's not like.

[B]

And they're like, I don't understand. Like, am I in trouble?

[C]

Like, stop 100.

[B]

And they get scared. Like, I try to do it with my partner all the time. Like, just light little tinges here and there can be fun.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Not all the time, but like, a little. Like, I'm like, we've been so good.

[C]

Let's not be so good.

[B]

Let's have to come back. I want to miss you.

[C]

I want to be like, I want to be scared that I'm gonna lose.

[B]

You, you know, Even though I know I'm not. Like, let me just pretend. Let me just pretend, like, play with it. I feel like guys can't get.

[C]

Get there.

[B]

No, but I kind of. Okay. Did you ever at one point, like, bring your trust issues in your past into your relationship that, like, it really affected you guys?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Past the dark passenger of, like, staying out late. Was there anything else?

[C]

Yeah, well, we know we started going to therapy, like, really early on into our relationship because I had all of those freak out moments, and I just didn't trust him. And he didn't understand where it was coming from because he was. He had never given me a reason for me not to trust him. And we had to, like, talk through it. And the more, like, we went to therapy, the more then he was like, thank you so much for articulating this, for communicating this, because I understand that must have been really hard to have, like, this happen to you, to have your friend do this to you, to have, you know, other times that I had been cheated on. Like, I get it now. And, like, then we were able to work together, but, like, yeah, it really affected our relationship.

[B]

Yeah. I love that you. You have openly talked about, like, couples therapy because I think there's such a stigma of, like, what's wrong with your relationship. And it's like, why is everyone to.

[C]

Be going this early?

[B]

Right?

[C]

Like, why? Because that's when the relationships, like, it's make or break, honestly. And you're coming into the relationship with all your separate baggage, so might as well get it, like, worked out right away.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Your relationship, you've talked kind of about how, like, you have very different sex drives with Bow and everything. Give the girlies tips of, like, how to do you keep things intimate without at times being actually physically intimate. Like, what do you guys do?

[C]

Honestly, Alex, I need the tips. I need the tips. I think, listen, I think that Bo and I are really good at. At quality time. Like, we. We talk to each other like, we. We. We spend time together. Like, we. We're really good at parenting together. Like, I know that doesn't sound romantic, but, like, when you're aligned in. In how you view things like that, like, when you get into a relationship with someone, you get married to someone, or you decide to have a child with someone, you better really like that person. Because when you have a kid, y' all are in it. You're in it 24 7. Like, and so there are gonna be days that are kind of boring, and you better really just, like, being around that person while doing all of the monotony, mountainous, mundane.

[B]

Yeah, that's such a good point. Like, I was thinking about you and, like, having watched some of your relationships, very toxic in the past, to then, like, Bo seems like the complete opposite of, like, stable, normal, romantic, loving, sweet. Like, in the beginning. Did that freak you out?

[C]

It didn't freak me out, but I made it. What I did with him is, like, I made a choice, like, a. I was aware of the fact that I. I was changing my habits. Like, everyone that I've dated in the past, it was kind of all the same, like, exciting and, like, passionate right from the beginning, like, just feeling like, you know, that feeling which, like, ends up being toxic, honestly, 100%. And so Beau was kind of everything different. You know what I mean? He was different than anything that I had dated before. And I went about it, both of us did, really slowly, and we casually dated, and we dated other people, and we just really got to know each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And I think that that's, like, what made this relationship so solid is that, like, we trusted each other. There was, like, constant communication, constant, like, getting to know each other, but it. Didn't know nothing about him. Scared me because I knew that I was doing everything different.

[B]

Yeah. I kind of also had. I mean, I think a lot of people do. You have those, like, toxic relationships. But I think at some point, people always write in asking, like, when will I be ready to, like, not. How will I know when to not go for the toxic. You just kind of know, you know, when you're done.

[C]

Yeah, you totally.

[B]

There's a feeling of, like, I don't want to deal with it anymore.

[C]

And I think that there's, like, something, like, really overrated about the, like, love at first sight thing. I still have friends that, like, you know, are single and will ask me, like, well, what should I do? I'm like, well, you write someone off if you don't feel that in love. Feeling that excitement right away. But, like, like, that's kind of overrated. And, like, we don't know people right away, so. Right. So how real is that feeling?

[B]

Right. It's like, there's a difference between going on a first date and actually, like, vibing and being. There's definitely something here.

[C]

But obviously you have to have attraction and you have to vibe. Yeah.

[B]

But the feeling of, like, the butterflies, but also, like, anxious and, like, he's not texting and, like, waiting and, like, playing the games and, like, being so calculated and, like. Like, that shouldn't be happening because that's, like, unhealthy.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, that's not enjoyable.

[C]

Exactly.

[B]

But I think when you are doing that for so long, you can get into this rhythm of then normal feels boring. And I think it's like, I got to a point where I'm, like, actually toxic became so boring to me.

[C]

I completely agree. Toxic is boring.

[B]

It's boring because it's so transparent of, like. And then we're gonna fight, and then he's not gonna text me, and then I'm gonna not text him, and then we're gonna get a fight, and then we're gonna. Gonna have this crazy sex, and then I'm gonna feel insecure, and then, like. And then it's just like, this. And you're never able to be like, I feel really happy today on this nice Wednesday. Like, I know you don't have that. And that just. I get it. I won't say to anyone in their early 20s or in their teens right now, like, you got to go through it.

[C]

You do have to go through it. And I'll say, like, it is fun to go through it once or twice.

[B]

Totally. But it would just be nice, like, if you can. If you start to feel like you're getting fed up with it, you have. You have to also change your ways.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Like, that's just.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

How did you know Bo was the one?

[C]

Because I could completely be myself. Honestly, Like, I felt like there was. I never had to watch what I said or what I did or I never felt insecure in that way. Like, I felt like he loved everything about me, and he. But not just loved it. He would, like, champion. Yeah, it, like, he was so into just, like, me being a basic. That's, like, so not a dude thing to. To do to be, like. Yeah, you go with, like, your basic self, you know? Like, he was just, like, really accepting and a cheerleader, and I think that's what I realized. Like, I really want that for myself.

[B]

Totally. Totally. No, that's so cute. Like, obviously I only get to watch your life, like, slightly through Instagram, but you guys look, like, so happy.

[C]

Thank you.

[B]

And it's just, like, really cool to see, like, again, I literally sitting down with you, the best that. The best version of, like, a whole person I knew was from season one, two, and three. And, like, watching those seasons, I love that part of you. But it's also cool to sit down with you and, like, get to know you as, like, a mom and a partner. And, like, just. I don't know, it's like, you're. You seem great. You seem like you, like, got it together.

[C]

I know. I feel like I got it together.

[B]

Like I said, I do. I think so. Wait, so you're on tour?

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And Kate went to one of your shows and she was. Was like, it is so crazy. Like, she sells out everywhere. You are just, like, so personable and outgoing and everyone loves you. And, like, all of your fans are amazing. And she was like, they're like the nicest girls in a room, Just, like, loving life, being so happy to be there. Do you like touring?

[C]

I love it. That was, like, the one thing when Covid happened that I was like, I. If I can do anything ever again, wow. Like, please let it be touring. Like, I really love it. I just love the whole process of it. Not just, like, creatively putting together. It's like, challenging. Challenging. It's like fully challenging myself to do something that's so uncomfortable. Like putting together, like, a set, like, where it's like, I'm not a stand up comedian, but, like, I have to be for a second.

[B]

Of course.

[C]

I have to act kind of, and then write something for myself, then deliver it and hope that people find it interesting.

[A]

Right?

[C]

And then put together segments and. And, you know, just. I just love the creative process of it. And then I also like the whole traveling aspect of it, you know? Like, I love going to different places and seeing smaller towns and meeting people from different places and checking into hotels. I don't know. I just. I really. I love touring.

[B]

I. I give you so much credit because I don't think people know how hard it is.

[C]

It is ridiculous how hard it is.

[B]

How long is your show?

[C]

An hour and a half.

[B]

To have AX and yourself and everyone entertaining people for an hour and a half live.

[C]

It's like, when you think about it, like, I'll always, like, when I'm watching everyone leave the theater, like, I'm in my car and I'm like, all these people, like, spent their money to come Here, like, they got babysitters. They took Ubers. Like, they. They came here. So, like, if I didn't deliver, like, that's. I'm letting them down, you know? I mean, it's not like they can just. They're at home flipping on a television show. It's like they went out of their way, like. And I appreciate that so much that they put in that effort to come see me. So, like, I. The pressure is. Is. Is on. It's there.

[B]

But do you get nervous to go on stage now or.

[C]

No, there are. When I know people in the audience. Audience.

[B]

And so how many cities do you do?

[C]

I think we did. We're doing, like, 25, I think, but we're over halfway done. I think the hardest part now I've realized this is. And when I do this again, I'll plan it differently, is, yeah, I can't be gone, like, six days at a time. I miss Hartford too much. Like, so those last two shows, like, I. I kind of just, like, end up not caring because I'm feeling down.

[B]

Wanting to go to your doctor.

[C]

I just want to go home and, like, be a mom. And so, like, I've realized that. I think that the next time around, I'll be like, okay, okay, like, three days.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Then we get home, like, three days, then.

[B]

Do you get exhausted by being pregnant and touring at all?

[C]

No. Okay. Let me tell you something. This is gonna sound extra alcoholicy, okay?

[B]

It's okay.

[C]

Because, like, I haven't sounded alcoholic enough this whole time. But I was way more low energy and tired the first two tours that I did before COVID because we would, like, drink and have fun, you know? I mean, like, we'd have, like, bloody Marys on the plane and, like, drink Rose while we're getting ready and drink backstage and have apparel spritzes on stage. And I just felt tired because of that. Now I think I have the most energy out of everyone that I'm traveling with because I'm sober.

[B]

Wait, no, I actually so get that, like, you would just keep. Drink. I would do the same thing.

[C]

Yeah, you just keep going. Oh, that's so smart. So now I'm sober, so I feel like I feel sharp. I feel just way more alert and with it and quicker. And, yeah, sobriety really suits me. It's just not fun.

[B]

You're like, I know it's for the. The best for me, but, like, the minute I have my child, I'm back on my 100. I'm getting an aperol spritz brought to my Room right after I deliver.

[C]

Oh, no. Beau literally brought me. He made spicy margaritas in the hospital for me, and he's gonna do that again.

[B]

The fact that you said you swish around an aperol spritz and just hold it there, I feel like that's what I'm gonna have to do if I ever get pregnant.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Or like, a really good red wine. Like, I'll. I'll. I, like, I'll have a little bit of red wine every now and then. Like, my doctor literally says it's fine to, like, have some few sips.

[B]

Right. Everyone calm down. A glass.

[C]

It's fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I'll leave it in my mouth. Like, literally, it feels like for three and a half minutes. Because you just. The taste. I miss the taste.

[B]

I get it so much. What is like, coming up in your life? So you're writing a book, you're having a kid. I actually love how. I didn't even have to ask you. You're writing a book, you're having a kid, and you're on tour. Yes. You're kind of thriving.

[C]

And I have two podcasts.

[B]

So, like, dude, how do you do two podcasts? I mean, when you and go on.

[C]

Tour, the other ones with.

[B]

With.

[C]

With bo so, like, it's easy for us to just. Just, like, make time to do it. So it feels. It doesn't feel like it's as much.

[B]

Too much.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Let's have you back home in your hammers.

[C]

But that would be so fun.

[B]

Then we really can't. Eric.

[C]

Toasty.

[B]

That would be fun to do one next time we, like, actually get up.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And, like, see what comes out of our mouths.

[C]

No, Alex, this was, like, one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done.

[B]

Was it fun?

[C]

This was so fun.

[B]

I'm so happy you came because I had an idea. We would be vibing. We. I also feel like we never shut the upper up. Do we have one breath of silence where we were. Like, I haven't even heard the room tone since we started. But I guess that's a good podcast, right?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Or everyone's gonna be like, you guys are so annoying.

[C]

Yeah, you guys are annoying. You guys keep talking over each other. I don't think we were talking over. No, we were two professionals.

[B]

Yeah, we, like, right as you were finishing, I would pick up and it was like, yeah, I think we had a good time.

[C]

No, this was. I'm not joking. This was one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done. Like, I really just had a really great time.

[B]

I had a great time and I felt like I really could just relax and we had like a normal fun, fun conversation that was just happened to be filmed for millions of people to watch.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

You were so fun. Thank you for coming on.

[A]

Thank you.

[B]

This is great. Oh my God.

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