Call Her Daddy – "Taylor Frankie Paul: The Next Bachelorette"
Host: Alex Cooper
Guest: Taylor Frankie Paul
Date: September 10, 2025
Episode Overview
Alex Cooper welcomes social media personality and reality TV star Taylor Frankie Paul for an exclusive announcement: Taylor is officially the next Bachelorette. The conversation dives into Taylor’s surprise at being chosen, the challenges of being a single mom in the public eye, her perceptions of relationships, lessons learned from the past, and how her background in Mormon culture will shape her season. The interview is a blend of heartfelt honesty, bold humor, and signature "Call Her Daddy" chaos, offering listeners a candid preview of what’s sure to be a groundbreaking season.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Taylor’s Bachelorette Announcement & Reaction
[02:41–04:52]
- Taylor shares her disbelief at being the Bachelorette, describing it as “surreal” and “not real” until the limos pull up.
- She was initially considered as a joke, after a TikTok went viral where she playfully pitched herself for the show.
- The offer was surprising to her, especially since it was supposed to be a Bachelor season originally.
Quote:
“I was just...shaking, pacing back and forth. I was like, there’s no way. There’s no way.”
— Taylor ([04:36])
2. Navigating Single Motherhood and Double Standards
[04:52–06:22]
- Taylor discusses the logistics of being a co-parent, having “two baby daddies,” and deciding if she could realistically take time away to film.
- She highlights the double standard between mothers and fathers pursuing opportunities.
Quote:
“If a mom ends up doing something for herself, it’s like, you’re such a bad mom. How could you do this?”
— Alex ([05:53])
3. Family and Friends’ Reactions
[06:23–11:22]
- Her family was initially “shocked” but became excited and supportive.
- Taylor confides she’s never dated multiple people or had a "roster"—the structure of The Bachelorette will be entirely new for her.
Quote:
“I’ve never done that. So that will be new to me.”
— Taylor ([07:06])
4. Entering the Franchise as an Outsider
[07:27–09:50]
- Taylor is the first Bachelorette with no prior franchise involvement, unfamiliar with the format and typical strategies.
- Alex reassures her this freshness will be a huge asset.
Quote:
“I don’t have notes of how this works or what…My friends were practicing a rose ceremony…and I was like, ‘oh my gosh, I’m going to ruin it.’”
— Taylor ([09:10])
5. Impact on Friendships & Mom Talk Drama
[10:08–11:53]
- Potential tensions within her "Mom Talk" friend circle, but Taylor reports mostly positive reactions.
- She admits uncertainty about potential side group chats or behind-the-scenes drama.
Quote:
“Most of them are going to be happy for me and support me...I can’t speak for everyone and what they actually truly think.”
— Taylor ([10:32])
6. Taylor’s Romantic Life: Soft Launches, Exes & Moving On
[14:51–19:16]
- Alex asks about a viral “soft launch” of a man on Instagram—Taylor says people overreacted, she's genuinely single, and she likes to "confuse people" for fun.
- Taylor details meeting a guy via TikTok Live but clarifies it's nothing serious.
- When asked about her ex Dakota, Taylor confirms she ended things and it's truly over, describing heartbreak and the difficult closure.
Quote:
“To walk away from someone you initially wanted is a pain that I can’t describe to anybody.”
— Taylor ([22:50])
7. What Taylor Wants in a Partner
[25:45–30:23]
- Taylor discusses her ideal age range (late 20s–early 40s), non-negotiables (must be willing to move to Utah), and what she’s seeking in terms of career and personality.
- She values hard work, isn’t focused on money or status, but wants kindness and someone open to helping parent.
Quote:
“Utah’s pretty cool. It’s not that bad...You will be moving to me in Utah.”
— Taylor ([26:42])“I just want them to be, like, willing.”
— Taylor ([27:25])
8. Faith, Religion, and Openness
[29:35–33:43]
- Taylor is open to partners outside the Mormon faith but prefers someone who believes in God.
- She’s candid about criticisms for not being “Mormon enough” and pushes back against judging others for rule-breaking.
Quote:
“It doesn’t matter if I drink. That doesn’t make me a bad person. If I smoke, if I take a sip of coffee, all the freaking rules. It doesn’t make me less of a person than you.”
— Taylor ([35:19])
9. Sex, Shame, and Fantasy Suites
[37:32–45:00]
- Taylor reflects on growing up in a culture where sex was taboo and associated with guilt.
- She's open about "owning it" now but wants to keep some aspects private.
- Very curious about how past Bachelorette contestants navigated fantasy suites, and says she has a personal plan.
- She’s not interested in someone who judges her for her physical choices and values straightforward communication about sex.
Quote:
“I have done that where I’ve cried after...I did something so bad. And the guy was, like, really nice. And he was just like, but you’re not a bad person…And it’s just almost like you grew up with this guilt of it.”
— Taylor ([37:47])
10. Lessons from Past Relationships & Red Flags
[47:25–51:38]
- Taylor discusses her learning curve: no longer attracted to the “life-of-the-party clown,” realizes she needs someone more balanced.
- Emphasizes never ignoring intuition again after staying in a mismatched relationship too long.
Quote:
“If I feel it, I’m out. Like, that is…it was what I felt. It’s like when you’re with someone that’s a good situation, there’s this peace that it comes with.”
— Taylor ([51:04])
11. Handling Public Scrutiny & Past Scandals
[53:47–56:48]
- Taylor addresses her televised arrest, swinging parties, and family drama with honesty and regret, sharing her ongoing growth.
- Says the lowest moments have led to therapy and strengthened family bonds; emphasizes she’s not the same person now.
Quote:
“But with that has come a lot of learning lessons and I’ve become a better mom because of it.”
— Taylor ([56:40])
12. Game Segment: "Would You Give Him a Rose?"
[61:23–64:46]
- Alex rapid-fires scenarios (jealous guys, mom disapproval, not her usual type, etc.).
- Taylor is open-minded yet loyal to her intuition and family.
Quote:
“If my mom’s hating him, I probably would not.”
— Taylor ([64:27])
13. Mom Talk, Hometowns, and Family Approval
[65:31–69:53]
- Taylor prioritizes her children’s comfort, would introduce final suitors before a proposal.
- Not a dealbreaker if partner’s family dislikes her, but family opinions matter.
- Shares her family’s growth after their private drama played out on reality TV.
Quote:
“My family is so supportive. Like, they are my ride or die crew and they would do anything for me.”
— Taylor ([70:00])
14. Looking Ahead: The Bachelorette and Secret Lives of Mormon Wives
[70:41–74:39]
- Taylor looks forward to filming, acknowledges the chaos and learning ahead.
- Hints at closure and cliffhangers in the upcoming season of "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives."
- Embraces her flaws and growth, hoping viewers offer a “fair shot.”
Quote:
“I’ve made a lot of mistakes. I’ve learned. Honestly, I’m so grateful for this opportunity...You can come out [of the hole].”
— Taylor ([73:41])
Memorable Moments and Notable Quotes
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On being the first franchise outsider Bachelorette:
“You’re going to be like, I have no idea what’s going on, and I’m just going to go by what I feel, which I think is another part that’s going to really excite people.”
— Alex ([08:33]) -
On bouncing back and public identity:
“All you can do when someone is messing up is learn from it and do better. You don’t have to stay in that hole of becoming worse and worse.”
— Taylor ([73:41]) -
On embracing chaos:
“Bring that same energy to The Bachelorette and we’re all going to love it.”
— Alex ([75:25])
Timestamps for Key Segments
- [02:41] – Taylor announced as The Bachelorette; her reaction
- [04:52] – Discussing motherhood, co-parenting, societal double standards
- [10:08] – Friendship impacts, Mom Talk, and internal group drama
- [14:51] – Viral “soft launch,” meeting men, Dakota breakup details
- [25:45] – Taylor describes her dream partner
- [29:35] – Religion, Mormon identity, and openness
- [37:32] – Growing up with sexual shame, approach to fantasy suites
- [47:25] – Past relationships, red flags, intuition
- [53:47] – Addressing public scandals and growth
- [61:23] – Rose scenario game
- [65:31] – Hometowns, family approval
- [70:41] – Excitement for filming and upcoming projects
- [73:41] – Final reflections on growth and gratitude
Tone & Style
The episode is conversational, witty, and refreshingly real—typical "Call Her Daddy" style. Alex is direct and cheeky; Taylor blends humor with surprising vulnerability. Both embrace chaotic, “own your mess” energy while offering genuine insights about motherhood, love, reality TV, and personal growth.
Summary Conclusion
Taylor Frankie Paul’s episode is a must-listen for fans of "The Bachelor" franchise, “Call Her Daddy,” and reality TV drama lovers. Taylor’s honesty about her unconventional journey, her willingness to own mistakes, and Alex’s encouraging, playful interview style set the stage for what could be the most unpredictable Bachelorette season yet. Taylor encourages viewers to see her with an open mind—flaws, scandal, humor, and all.