Unknown (2:34)

That 10 minutes were gold and we can't recreat it. You're like pretend we didn't do any of that. I'm like, I can't recreate that goal.

Trisha Paytas (2:39)

Everything was going amazing. So if you guys feel like we're a little on edge here and ready, like, ready to end it all, it's because we are. Okay. I was saying to you, trisha, congratulations. You just announced your second child. Tell me how you're feeling again.

Unknown (2:55)

I feel very excited. From the beginning, I'm like, do we go through everything we just said?

Trisha Paytas (2:58)

Yeah.

Unknown (2:59)

Where did the names come from? I always thought of some Malibu before the movies came out from 10. I'm a middle child, older brother, younger sister. You're the baby. Who are you closer with, brother or sister? You're like, I'm gonna get in trouble. And that's when it comes.

Trisha Paytas (3:10)

You guys, we literally went through.

Unknown (3:12)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (3:12)

No, we are doing it again. How are you feeling? Talk to me about all the food that you can eat because you're pregnant.

Unknown (3:17)

Oh, I just feel. Oh, yeah. That's what we were saying. It's like, see, now I forgot already. Yeah. I just feel like usually I do eat what I want, but I feel guilty about it now. I just eat what I want and don't feel guilty because, you know, you're like, growing a baby.

Trisha Paytas (3:27)

So you're growing a baby. You're allowed to just, like, shove food into your mouth and no one can get mad at you or judge you. It's like, off, I'm pregnant, Leave you alone.

Unknown (3:34)

And mostly, I don't care what other people think. It's usually what I think. So it's usually like, oh, no, I don't feel bad now. I'm like, oh, I'm not judging myself, and I can sleep all that I want. Usually, like, I gotta be busy, I gotta do. But now I just take naps and I don't feel any guilt.

Trisha Paytas (3:44)

You're napping and you're eating.

Unknown (3:46)

Yeah. It's the best.

Trisha Paytas (3:47)

I'm so happy for you.

Unknown (3:48)

That's why I love being pregnant.

Trisha Paytas (3:49)

You said you want more than two.

Unknown (3:51)

Well, we thought to. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. We don't have to yet. One is very difficult.

Trisha Paytas (3:56)

Right.

Unknown (3:57)

In my head, I'm thinking, like, four, you know, because we were talking about how three is, like, hard. So I was like, it's two or four.

Trisha Paytas (4:02)

Okay. I know I already asked you this, but just to set the scene for people. Where did you grow up?

Unknown (4:06)

I was split my time between Illinois and California. My dad was in California and my mom was in Illinois. So I went back and forth a lot. I quit school a lot to, like, be homeschooled and stuff. Then I'd go back into school. Like, I was constantly doing that because I loved. I loved, like, the lifestyle here in California with my dad. But, you know, my mom is what I used to. And like, we lived in a town of like a thousand people back in Illinois, so it was like two extremes.

Trisha Paytas (4:25)

Oh, wow. We. Were you closer with your mom or your dad?

Unknown (4:29)

I mean, definitely my mom. Yeah. Like, my dad, I saw, like, the summers. You know what I mean? But my dad, I think in that, though, I thought my dad was so cool because he was like, in California and I was like. Even though, like, obviously he was the worst of the parents, my mom literally raised us. I always felt bad saying, like, my dad was the best.

Trisha Paytas (4:44)

I feel like that happens so much when you come from divorced parents. The one that's like the cooler one is actually just the one that never had to, like, instill any boundaries or, like, tell you, like, you're grounded because you did this.

Unknown (4:54)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (4:55)

Or like, just was not the one parenting as much.

Unknown (4:57)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (4:57)

And then you grow up and you're like, oh, yeah, dad. Maybe not as fabulous as mom putting in all the work.

Unknown (5:04)

All the work. My mom worked four jobs. Bus driver, bartender, all this stuff like that. And I'm like, I love my dad more. It was, like, so weird. But, yeah, especially at the wedding. We had a wedding and, like, my dad walks us down the aisle and gives the speech, and my moms don't get anything at the wedding, and they do all the work. I kind of felt bad.

Trisha Paytas (5:17)

Point. Yeah.

Unknown (5:18)

And my mom still helps us out. She's like, watching our daughter right now.

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Out Airbnb to find the perfect place to stay, because your accommodation can really make or break the tr. Can you kind of paint the picture though, like before high school, just like of your childhood? I feel like obviously so much of, like, who we are is from our childhood. And I know you just mentioned like, your mom was working four jobs, like, can you kind of just paint the picture growing up in Illinois with your mom?

Unknown (8:50)

Yeah, we lived in like these farm towns and they were. Yeah, there were less than a thousand people. We kind of moved around a little bit because I don't know. I just never liked school and. Yeah, it was just small. It was a small town. It was a farm town, so everyone and my mom, like, was from there, so it was just like, farm town. My grandparents were on a farm. And there's just not much to it, to be honest. It's really just. It was so boring, and I just. I hated it. I haven't been back since. I think I left at 17, and I have not been back since.

Trisha Paytas (9:15)

Oh, my God. Do you think if you landed in Illinois, like, would you get triggered?

Unknown (9:18)

Yeah, yeah, for sure. Even just going to Chicago, which is like, two hours from where I live, I'm like, not Illinois.

Trisha Paytas (9:24)

No. I kind of relate to that, though. And I think a lot of people, especially during the holidays, like, I've seen people always say, like. Like, it's triggering to go back to your hometown because one, I think we, like, repress so many memories. And two, it's just like. It just reminds us of a version of ourselves that, like, if you were cool in middle school and high school, like, kudos to you. But, like, I wasn't.

Unknown (9:44)

I was like, not really either. I wasn't, like, bullied, really. I mean, a little tiny bit, like everybody. But I wasn't cool either. So I was just. I. Just neutral. Just everywhere.

Trisha Paytas (9:51)

Just kind of neutral. What did you want to be when you were growing up?

Unknown (9:54)

A famous.

Trisha Paytas (9:55)

Famous.

Unknown (9:55)

I just wanted to be famous. And this was before, like, reality tv, so I was like, I need to be a singer or an actress, but I can't do either of them. But I came out to do it because that's all you got famous back then.

Trisha Paytas (10:06)

So when you're sitting in Illinois, are you, like, were there any, like, TV shows or magazines or anything that you were watching or, like, people you were like, I want to be like that person.

Unknown (10:14)

Like Britney Spears, of course.

Trisha Paytas (10:16)

Did you tell people in your town you wanted to be famous?

Unknown (10:18)

Yeah, I was mostly. I was voted most likely to be famous in one, I think, two of my yearbooks. I was most likely to be famous. Yeah. Just because I, like, was. I just liked attention. And like I said, I don't know, I just. I feel like I always stood up, you know, if. I feel like you just kind of know if you have, like, a little it back there, you know? So I knew I had something, but I was like, it wasn't talent, so I was like, how do I parlay this?

Trisha Paytas (10:37)

Going back to high school? Like, did you have a lot of girlfriends?

Unknown (10:40)

No.

Trisha Paytas (10:40)

No, I was.

Unknown (10:41)

I was. I wouldn't say a pick me. But I definitely was like, girls are drama. I used to be that. I used to be the girl that, like, did not like girls because of that reason, because I was just intimidated. I just thought, oh, no guys gonna look at me if I'm in a room girl. I just was not a girl's girl. Like, it took me a while. Now I'm only a girl's girl and I can't stand, like, men. But it took me a while. I definitely was insecure. Never want to be around girls. You know what I mean? I just, I think I was always a girl hater. Especially just like, I just never felt good enough. I never felt skinny enough, pretty enough. I never had boyfriends until I was like 30.

Trisha Paytas (11:08)

So. Yeah, no, I think that's relatable though, of like, when. Especially when we're younger. Like, we're constantly comparing ourselves in rooms because at that age it's also like, what guy likes what girl? And if you're not getting picked, then you feel like a loser and you feel like fudge. Like, I wish I looked like them. And then it's just this comparing game that you can never win.

Unknown (11:28)

Definitely.

Trisha Paytas (11:28)

So it's hard to like, I had that a lot where I like, my best friend was like the gorgeous one and I was always like, I love you so much, but like, fudge me.

Unknown (11:37)

Yeah. Don't be around me.

Trisha Paytas (11:38)

Right. Like, can you move a little to the fudgeing? Right. Because you look too good in parties. And I'd be like, I'm literally never going to get chosen if you are sitting next to me.

Unknown (11:47)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (11:47)

And it's hard with girls, but it's like, now I look back and I'm like, like, oh, my God. It wasn't actually about us competing with each other. It was about the men that we were trying to, like, appease their standards and had nothing to do with the girls, like, liking each other. Not at all based off of if.

Unknown (12:02)

Guys like, of course with everything, with acting, with anything. It's just like, you know, it's just what they. What they approved of what they liked and had nothing to do with you. So. I know. I wish I would have found my own lane earlier because I. And I do love pretty girl. I'm like, I actually, like, am obsessed with pretty girls. I just, like, was just too scared to be around them. No.

Trisha Paytas (12:18)

It is intimidating. Like, I agree. Like you. And also, it's hard to not be envious of, like, I wish I had what you have. And, like, I wish I was you but at the end of the day, once you get to know those people, a lot of times they've got their own shit.

Unknown (12:28)

Oh, for sure.

Trisha Paytas (12:29)

Not perfect either.

Unknown (12:30)

Oh, no, for sure. I was always envious of you. I was very envious of you. I remember, like, when I. I think it was 20, 19, 2018, you girls were on Impulsive. And I remember being like. And I didn't know anything about podcasts. I don't know how people got podcasts. And I remember just being so jealous. I was like, wow, they have a job where they just, like, talking and talking about sex. I was like, I could do that. That could be me. And I was like, how do they get this? And you girls were so much younger. I was like, so jealous. And then obviously we got your Spotify deal. I was just like, oh, my God. You know, I was. I was that person who was so jealous.

Trisha Paytas (12:57)

It's so funny, Trisha, because I remember just, like, watching you on YouTube so often, and I would be so jealous of you because before I started my career, I'm like, I wish I had Trisha's platform. I wish I could, like, sit on YouTube and, like, do what she does.

Unknown (13:11)

That's crazy, because I was, like, alone and crying all the time. Like, I wish I could be that person.

Trisha Paytas (13:15)

Dude, that is so crazy that we're both like, oh, I was jealous of you.

Unknown (13:18)

Oh, for sure. I definitely was. I definitely was just like, I don't get. Call her daddy. I definitely was. So when I did this, I was like, all I know is that clip is going to be resurfacing. So let me just go ahead and say it.

Trisha Paytas (13:26)

It's so funny because I had one of my really good friends now, she went on a podcast at one point and was like, I don't get the color daddy girl stick. It's so fudgeing dumb. Why are they acting like that? They're, like, acting like little whores. Like, I. I'm the first person. And I think that we can talk about that too. With your career of like. Like, by having a career on the Internet, you just say so much stuff. And half of the time, in the beginning days, I felt like I also said stuff that I regret. And I remember in those OG days, back in the day with my old co host, like, we. When we started to get desperate for views, we would, like, say stuff about celebrities. And I'm so deeply embarrassed that we said those things. But I know it wasn't coming from a place of, like, actually being, like, mean girls. It was. I know from my pov, it was genuinely just like, how do we stir up?

Unknown (14:12)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:12)

And if you can teeter this line. That's so unhealthy, and you just become like, how do we get more? How do we get more?

Unknown (14:18)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (14:18)

And I'm like, why did I say that? So if that clip resurfaces, I wouldn't give a. I literally wouldn't. Trisha. Because, yeah, I. First of all, you didn't know me. Yeah. You had never met me.

Unknown (14:27)

I was just jealous. 100. Because, honestly, as soon as they called for this, like, literally, like, my management from Canada flew in. They're like, this is. I'm like, yes, this is the biggest thing. You know what I mean? So I think. But I really try in the past, especially since being 30, I really try now to really just not hate on girls, even if, like, everyone's hating on them. I really try to find, like, even with Jada Pinkett, I'm like. I try to find, like, the good side of this. I'm like, you know, she dealt through a lot now she could. So I try to. I try to keep it positive with every girl, you know.

Alex Cooper (14:51)

I agree.

Trisha Paytas (14:51)

You're right. I think what we can both understand, it's like being in the media, a lot of times when we do the stupidest shit is when we're hurting the most. And so trying to find, like, any type of empathy for anyone. When you see someone, like, acting out, it's like, like, well, what the hell are they going through?

Unknown (15:07)

There's still people that, like, I can, like, oh, I just can't find the silver lining. If I just go. I scroll past. But now I don't like to say anything. I'm like, let me just. If you have nothing nice to say, don't say it all. So I. I feel like I've matured a lot. And, like, I don't really, like, hate on girls, but if there is a girl that annoys you and there is, like, I just annoy some people. Just, you know, I just keep it going. It just makes you look bad. Like, I just look so bad. Like you said, I just look so bad talking, like, so much crap about people. But I really can tell you, like, it came always from a place of, like, jealousy. Always. Like, I used to talk about, like, the D'Amelios when they were, like, 18 and 16. And I was just, like. I was so jealous that I wasn't me, but I was, like, 30 years old being like, oh, my God, you're spitting out a snail. How Ungrateful. Like, you know, they're 18.

Trisha Paytas (15:39)

No, but I also think that comes from a place too, of, like, people on the Internet then probably, like, writing to you being, like, saying mean things about, like, I get it now, like, relevancy or, like, age as a woman. And it's like, as a woman, if you're past the age of 21, you're like, old as fuck.

Unknown (15:56)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (15:56)

And you're outdated. And so naturally that's going to cause resentment of. Of us feeling like when you see younger girls. But really we shouldn't be mad at younger girls. We should be mad at society. And mainly men being the ones that tell us, like, after a certain age, you're not valued anymore.

Unknown (16:11)

A thousand percent true. Right, Right. Exactly. I love it. No, it's true. It is true.

Trisha Paytas (16:17)

I want to talk about you going to la. So you graduate high school. And I remember reading, like, the day after you moved to la.

Unknown (16:24)

Yeah. Like, literally the day of. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (16:26)

What was your plan and what was your job when you got to la?

Unknown (16:29)

Well, I initially moved with my dad, so that first thing I, like, lasted about. He wanted me to go to college. So I went to like, two weeks of, like, community college. It did not work out because I never had a math class in my life in high school. So I took like a pre algebra and I, like, had no idea what was going on, so I was like, I drop out. And so, yeah, I got on a TV show right away that I got on a show called the Greg Barrett Show. It was like filmed at Culver Studios. It was like syndication shows, like a talk show. And so I did like 10 episodes of that. I was in SEGA after, so I was getting like, you know, 1700 an episode, which was like so much. It was great. And then I got another show with Stan Lee called who Wants to Be a Superhero? It was on sci fi, so I was like, crushing it. That was like 18, and then like 19 hit. And then I kind of like, I had no money, nothing. And then that's when I did the whole stripping. Escorting. Well, I wouldn't say escort. I was like a hooker on the street. But I like to say escorting. It sounds, like, fancier.

Trisha Paytas (17:11)

Trisha, slow down. Yeah, hold on. Trisha's like, I can go. I love how fast you can talk. You're like, I can go through my entire life story.

Unknown (17:16)

Literally.

Trisha Paytas (17:17)

I'm like, trisha, we need to, like, get an hour at 18.

Unknown (17:20)

And I'm like, we gotta get to 35.

Trisha Paytas (17:22)

Okay. First of all, I'm dying at your Math comment. Because I was so bad at math. Shout out to Oscar. He was this kid in my math class that he would. I would sit next to Oscar and I would pretend I'm writing my whole math class doing nothing. Then when Oscar was done his. He would hand me his test and I would hand him my test, and he would take my test for me, and he would, like, even, like, change, like, his writing to be more girly. And then Oscar would hand me back my test and I would go hand it in. I'm like, Oscar, I knew he was, like, going to Harvard or something, and I was just, like, not meant for math. And I just knew, like, there's. There's gonna be a phone for a reason that has a calculator. I don't need to know, like, the square root of things.

Unknown (18:01)

You manifested or you knew there was already cell phones back then. We didn't have cell phones in high school, so, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (18:06)

We did have cell phones, but, you.

Unknown (18:08)

Know, I just, like, manifested. This is gonna happen one day. I was like, wow, you made the iPhone happen.

Trisha Paytas (18:17)

Honestly, I absolutely will take credit for that. I did. Yes. I absolutely made the iPhone happen for sure. And I know I was like, I just knew I didn't need math in my life because I knew I wanted to be in entertainment. Did you ever cheat in school?

Unknown (18:33)

No, I've never had friends. So, like, my friends were literally, like, I said, I was just, like, hitting up, like, celebrities, just trying to be like, hey. But I've never had friends in school, never have friends now. I'm just not a friend person. I don't know. But I'm really trying now with my daughter. I really am, like, being. Trying to be as social as possible. Like, we're going to birthday parties for her because I just don't want her to grow up like that with, like. No, I don't really mind. It doesn't make me. Me sad because I don't know any different.

Trisha Paytas (18:53)

Yeah.

Unknown (18:53)

And also, I'm just, like, not a great friend because I'm not someone to, like, hang out with all the time. I've just never been that person, so. But I'm trying out for my daughter. Like, we gotta make her friends, make sure she's social and.

Trisha Paytas (19:01)

Yeah. Okay, let's talk about you saying so casually when you're talking this fact. You're like, okay. And then I'm gonna just cancel it too.

Unknown (19:06)

I love it. You said you have an hour, so I was like, let's get it in an hour. Our podcast was like, three and a half hours. So I'm like, I gotta get it all in.

Trisha Paytas (19:12)

No, I was more saying, trisha, we need to at least get to an hour. You're gonna talk about your whole life story in 30 seconds. You're like, okay. So then I. Okay, so you got. Finally after, like, you were in LA for a second, you were having some success, and then you just casually were like. And then I became a stripper and an escort, but not really. What happened?

Unknown (19:29)

Yeah, yeah. So I just had, like, no money. I was just, like, running out of money. My mom, like, was helping me as much as she could, and then she kind of ran out of money. I, like, maxed out her cards and stuff, so we all ran out of money. She had a husband at the time, so she was, like, living with him, and she was like, fine. But my dad was not in the picture at all. Like, he hated that I moved out. Like, cut me off completely. So I had, like. Like, no help, no money. And so I didn't know what to do. I didn't. Like, I wasn't educated. Like, you know, I didn't have college degrees. I had no idea I could. I tried to do, like, the regular jobs, you know, like, making smoothies and stuff, but that was just, like, not for me either. And I just, you know, loved the stripper life as, like, in movies. Like, I loved it. I thought it was, like, so glamorous. So I, like, this is gonna be for me. But, like, my stripper life was not glamorous. I was, like, literally at, like, Canoga Park. Like, VNI is, like, Godfathers. It was, like, super sketchy. I wanted to be at Spearmint Rhino, but that was, like, the bougie pretty girls with the fake boobs already. I was in, like. Like, I don't know if, you know Godfathers. It's just, like, sketchy. So, yeah, I had a stripper life. And then, yeah, then I just, you know, I think casually. Then you just start. Because, like, Hansa Paulvada there is, like, a bunch of hookers. Like, so I just casually started, like, going on the streets. Just get more money that way. Don't put up with the club and stuff like that. But I was like. I was kind of, like, out of my mind there. I would never. I don't consider myself like an addict, but I definitely was using a lot back then.

Trisha Paytas (20:36)

Okay, can I ask what you were using back then?

Unknown (20:38)

It was just, like, I did a lot of coke. I did a lot of, like. Like, I didn't do meth until, like, 2019. But I did do stuff that I didn't know. Maybe it was like, you know the ones where you snort with, like, rocks? I don't know if that's meth. I don't know what it was, but I was, like, snorting rocks. Yeah. I literally didn't know any of the drugs were. I just know I did a lot of. Just everything was snorting.

Trisha Paytas (20:57)

Okay.

Unknown (20:57)

And one was, like, really rocks. Like, it was just, like, hurt my nose all the time like that. And so I was just. Yeah, I was just doing a lot of that stuff. I was just, like, out of my mind, honestly. Whatever people gave me. And at 18 and 19, you're just kind of like, don't care, you know? I didn't care. I was like, I don't really care where my life goes.

Trisha Paytas (21:11)

When you said your dad cut you off, like, like, what happened?

Unknown (21:14)

Oh, just because, like, I didn't want to do school, and he's just like, I'm not gonna support you. And. Yeah, I mean, you were on your own. Yeah. So I was like, okay.

Trisha Paytas (21:22)

Were you scared at all whenever you were stripping? Like, were there any moments where you, like, got into situations where you're like, I am, like, a little scared.

Unknown (21:29)

Oh, yeah. I feel like all of it, like, going home without guys all the time. Like, it's crazy that, like, I'm alive. It all scared me. I guess at the time, you just didn't get scared because you don't think about it, right?

Trisha Paytas (21:40)

No, I. I get that. I think it's like when you almost like, can get into something that kind of fall into. And then you can almost just, like, keep going down that rabbit hole and you almost don't know when, like, to stop or when to, like, check yourself. Because, again, you're right at that age, like, if you don't have someone, like, that's a parent being, like, stop it. You kind of can just start to go wild and, like, not know, like, what is bad, what is good. And I'm finding myself and I'm figuring myself out. And if you didn't have friends, like, you kind of had no one probably to compare yourself to. Like, my friends aren't doing this. Had you ever done drugs before you went to la?

Unknown (22:14)

No. No. I was super good. I never drank. Like, I just didn't. I wasn't having, like, sex in high school or something like that because I just never. I never was that person. I don't know. So maybe I just thought, like, la, be wild. You know what I mean? I Thought. And again, I think being insecure, I just was like, you thought, like, having sex meant, like, you're so attractive, like, everybody wants you, you know?

Alex Cooper (22:30)

Right.

Unknown (22:30)

And you get paid for it. Like, that's actually insane. Like, to me, I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, people are gonna pay me to have sex with them. That's wild.

Trisha Paytas (22:36)

You're right, though. I can see what you're saying of, like. Like, going from, like, being in a position where you're like, oh, like, I wanted to be liked by these men. And then to get this profession where, like, they all love you and they're all paying attention to you. But then I can imagine, like, the drugs probably made you get into situations. Like, could you share any stories of just, like, situations you got into that you woke up and you're like, why did this happen?

Unknown (22:58)

Oh, my gosh. I mean, honestly, a lot of them that I, like, blacked out. I mean, really just. I mean, I've been kidnapped a bunch of times where it's just like, you wake up in, like, a truck and the truck's moving and stuff like that. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (23:08)

Trisha.

Unknown (23:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (23:09)

Pause. Sorry, what?

Unknown (23:11)

Yeah, I got kidnapped. Well, I guess. I don't know if it's kidnapping if you're over 18, but I was 19. I think I've been abducted.

Trisha Paytas (23:18)

I guess it's kidnapping no matter if you're 45.

Unknown (23:22)

Wait.

Trisha Paytas (23:22)

Or really. Yes.

Unknown (23:24)

I could be kidnapped at 35.

Trisha Paytas (23:25)

Yes.

Unknown (23:26)

Okay.

Alex Cooper (23:26)

We.

Trisha Paytas (23:27)

We.

Unknown (23:27)

Yeah, I was. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (23:29)

Can you walk me?

Unknown (23:30)

But it's like. It's in the sense where it's like, I don't know where I'm at. Like, I go with somebody, and all of a sudden you wake up, you're like, oh, in someone's truck and stuff like that.

Trisha Paytas (23:36)

At one point in your life, you woke up in the back of a truck.

Unknown (23:39)

I mean, multiple times. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's cr. There's like. And, you know, back then, again, you don't think in the avia, like, well, I went with this person willingly. So. Yeah, you just don't think about stuff like that.

Trisha Paytas (23:50)

When you would wake up in the back of those trucks, like, what did you do?

Unknown (23:53)

You kind of just don't do anything. Well, you know, you're, like, coming off a drug, so you kind of just like, let things happen. You're just like, oh. And then they, like, let you off or something like that. So you kind of just. And you don't. Again, I just. I didn't think of it, like, anything. I hear people talk about their stories and for me, it just, like, I say it casually because it's. To me, it almost seems casual. Like, it almost seems like, oh, well, that's what I was doing, I guess, even if I didn't want it, or like, someone like, you know, brought me with them. Like, it's kind of a. I don't know. I'm like, well, this is the life I chose, you know, which is, like, such a weird way to think. And of course, anybody else in this situation, I'd be like, oh, my God, that's so awful. But for me, I just thought, well, this is what I chose.

Trisha Paytas (24:27)

But I think also there's a level of, like, at some point, you kind of have to just, like, disconnect from it. Because a lot of that, like. Like, for any woman listening, like, that is. I'm sitting here being like, sorry, you woke up in the back of the truck. Like, that's so scary. I do think, obviously, when you're on drugs, though, everything can become way less intimidating because you. Your senses are, like, not heightened whatsoever. You're just, like, kind of in a sedated state. So, like, you can't really. You don't have the ability to, like, make maybe the decisions you would make when you're sober.

Unknown (24:57)

Oh, for sure.

Trisha Paytas (24:58)

But when you look back at yourself in those situations, like, how do you feel?

Unknown (25:02)

It's almost like, I just don't even know that life, you know, it's kind of like my high school life. I don't know that life. I don't know. Like, there's so many stages I look back on, and I'm like, oh, I don't even, like, recognize. Like, I remember it, but some of. I don't even, like, recognize. You know what I mean? Because I was just so such a different person. And it almost. It almost seems like I'm telling a story. You know what I mean? Like, it almost doesn't seem like my life. It's almost like this is a story about this girl. But, like, it, like, you know, and I. It took me a while. I didn't go to therapy for, like, a really long time. And even in therapy now, I, like, don't talk about it because it's just, like. It's not trauma to me. You know, stuff that happened to me as a kid, too. I'm just like, oh, it's not trauma. Even though, like, it is.

Trisha Paytas (25:34)

Yeah.

Unknown (25:35)

It's just like. I don't know. I don't, like. It's like. It's not something I'm, like, uncomfortable talking about. But with, like, therapy, I, like, don't get deep into it because I'm like, it's fine. And they're like, no, it's not. But I'm like, to me, it's fine. Like, you know, it doesn't. I don't think it affected me, but they're saying it does, and it probably did, because, I mean, I am kind of. I was messed up for a long time, so.

Trisha Paytas (25:50)

Well, yeah, I think a lot of the time, it's like, the body keeps things in. But, like, if you've done such a good job of essentially, like, dissociating from it, like, I get what you're saying, like, you're telling the story, but you don't personally feel that affected by it right now because you have survived through it. And you're like, I don't really, like, connect to that person anymore. Which I think is how a lot of people survive. And I think there's also, like, a stigma where people. Which I completely understand. When people would look at you being like, well, you have to figure it out. You have to solve it. I think that there's a lot of people that don't want to go and relive some things, and I think that's okay. Obviously, if it's, like, significantly affecting your life, life to this day, where, like, you're having, like, whether you're feeling like if you're having sex, you're getting triggered or you're having PTSD or flashbacks, like, that's usually when to, like, open it back up.

Unknown (26:39)

But, like, definitely.

Trisha Paytas (26:39)

I think everyone has to figure it out on their own time.

Unknown (26:41)

Yeah, I've definitely had that. I've definitely had that where I had to, like, talk to someone because it was like, if someone, like, touched me, like, I was, you know, it's like, just dealing with all that stuff. So I've definitely dealt with that for sure. But yeah.

Trisha Paytas (26:50)

Yeah, I'm curious, like, going through that with men and, like, being in positions where obviously, I'm sure, like. Like, you've kind of alluded, like, there's taken, like, taking advantage moments. Like, how did you kind of, like, rebuild your relationship to men?

Unknown (27:04)

I think I just, like, always hated men. And I feel like I'm still kind of there, especially, like, giving birth. I just had, like, such bad experiences with men, like, not understanding postpartum, like, just so I just. And I just. All my life is just, like, any type of man. I've just, like. I don't know. I feel like I wanted their, like, validation, and they were all Awful. So I feel like I have still such a strong hatred. I think if there's anything to fix, it's like maybe be my hatred towards men. And like, it's like, it's not even just like me being this feminist. Men suck, you know, it's just like I really dislike them and when I like, have to talk to a straight. Like, this year I really made a conscious effort to do only female podcasts. Like, I make don't want to talk to like, men. Like, I don't know what it is. And it's like, that's obviously not right either. You want to like, be equal and like, you know, not hate men.

Trisha Paytas (27:44)

Yeah, no, but I get what you're saying. I think like, when you've been like over or wronged by men or even just as simple as, like, they don't understand women. And there are some men that when you're actually looking at them in the eyes, you're like, oh, you don't get what I'm talking about. You don't get what I'm like even trying to say to you. And that can be so infuriating. And it's not worth our time sometimes. Like, it's not our job to educate men on why we should be treated equally to them or why we should, like have respect. Like, if you're talking. So there are some men that are great. Like, your husband's great. But like, overall, I get what you're saying of like the trauma of, of having men fail you so many times in your life. Why would you like them?

Unknown (28:22)

Yeah, and that's how I feel. And you're right, there are, there are like, my husband's like, amazing and I have like a friend that has like an amazing husband too. And it's like, there are some good ones. But then you hear on Tick Tock so many horror stories of men that don't want to change diapers or they don't want to like be planned the wedding or they like just constantly like, like that to me is like, so. And I hear it all the time. I'm like, that's so, like triggering. I'm just like, you know what I mean? Just the way they treat women, it just makes me so upset.

Trisha Paytas (28:43)

I don't know, so up and then to see like how many women, when men then want to have like a say on what women do with their bodies.

Unknown (28:49)

Oh, wow, that's a whole other. That. Yeah, girl, that's what I'm saying. With like postpartum or hormones when you're pregnant, all this stuff, you know, all the abortion stuff. And so it's just, like. It's infuriating that, like, men have a say period. And I just feel like men should not have a say ever about anything. Like, just don't say anything. Like giving birth. Giving. After. Like, after I gave birth, I had so many guys online, like, criticize me for taking fentanyl for having a C section because I was. You know, I had an addiction to, like, drugs at one point. And, like, oh, well, she said she never took drugs, but she took fentanyl for a C section. Like, they. They make you. Because they're cutting you open. Like, I don't get the ch not to really. So. Yeah. And so I think all that really made me hate men even more and straight and gay, because you know what I mean? Like, they both kind of don't get sometimes. So I was like, ugh. So even I had, like, a hairdresser. I just, like, I had all this. Now it's like, okay, now I'm letting gay men back into my life where. But, like, the straight man is still hard for me. You know what I mean? And it's. It's one thing. And I think because I'm married now, I don't even really need them as I used to think I needed them in the past was like, dating and stuff.

Trisha Paytas (29:41)

When you're in the dating world, like, I'm sorry, but, like, I get it. Women are always going to try to, like, look cute for the day and look this way and talk this way. Like, there are little things we always do because we still live in a man's world. So it's like, we have to be delicate with how we unravel it. But once you're in a healthy, safe relationship, it's kind of nice. You're right to be like, I now don't need anything. And. And if I'm gonna interact with men, it's gonna be on my turn.

Unknown (30:03)

Yeah, it's the best. It's the best feeling. It's just so great. And I'm like, I don't care if I'm skinny enough. I don't care if I'm. If there's a prettier girl in the room. To me, like, none of it matters, you know? So it's just like. It's so freeing. It's so wonderful. Like you said, if you're in a good relationship, the wrong relationship will make you feel the opposite.

Trisha Paytas (30:16)

That's almost worse than being in the date.

Unknown (30:18)

Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's awful. You like yeah, I'm sure.

Trisha Paytas (30:21)

I'm sure. So many women, including ourselves, sitting here, have been in those type of relationships where you're like, I am a shell of a human. I was. I was better off when I was dating a bunch of assholes. But going on dates rather than being with one guy that has your claws and you, that's so, like, manipulative and, like, emotionally or physically abusive, whatever.

Unknown (30:38)

It is, like, the worst. Calling you crazy, judging what you eat, counting how many nuggets you eat. It's like that to me. And I thought I was, like, so in love. And then you look back and you're just like, oh, my God. This person, like, hated me. But I was trying so hard, everything I could, and I'm like. And it's happened. Yeah, it's happened. I've only been in, like, two relationships, so it's like, both my relationships, you.

Trisha Paytas (30:53)

Had a man that would count how many chicken nuggets you would eat. What the.

Unknown (30:59)

On camera?

Trisha Paytas (31:00)

No. Yeah.

Unknown (31:02)

It's, like, still out there. It's like, compilations of all the time. Yeah. It's like, that, to me, is the most traumatic thing of my life. I've been kidnapped probably over 40 times, but that was the most. Most traumatized. Thinking about it, I, like, disassociate right now. I'm like, oh, no. I, like, get scared. I don't know. It's, like, such a weird thing.

Trisha Paytas (31:17)

You're like, leave me the alone. Let me eat my nuggets in peace, you piece of.

Unknown (31:20)

It was. It's like, so. It's actually, like, traumatizing. When I think back, I'm like, oh, my God. And to this day, I literally had a cry the other night. Like, we were eating pasta. Like, something triggered me from, like, that relationship, and I was just like. And it's so weird. Like, I'm so. Like, I never think about it, whatever. But there's, like, this. Like, I was eating this pasta, and I was like, oh, my God. I just started, like, crying, and I was just like, I feel like a disgusting person for eating this. And my husband is, like, so great. He's just like, pasta is, like, the most, like, popular food. It's in every country. Like, what? Like, it's totally normal for you to eat this, right?

Trisha Paytas (31:47)

It's like. It's like, wipe your tears and eat your pasta, Trisha. Okay. I read a study that, like, pasta makes you happier.

Unknown (31:53)

I repost that on my Instagram all the time. I always need to see it. Yeah. Like, repost.

Trisha Paytas (31:57)

I'm, like, absolutely happier let's go. Pasta every night.

Unknown (32:00)

Yeah, I. We eat. I eat pasta every night. Usually. I don't care. And then like, I don't know, started a spiral for.

Trisha Paytas (32:06)

I totally get it.

Unknown (32:07)

Yeah.

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Trisha Paytas (35:33)

You were talking about your time in LA and, like, struggling with drugs, did you ever have, like, a rock bottom moment where you're like, I've got it.

Unknown (35:39)

So many, so many. That was. That was rock bottom moment in, like, when I was 19. That happened. Like, I literally. I lived next to. His name was Christopher Dennis. He was the Hollywood Superman. There's a documentary made about him. And he. He recently passed. He was so sad. But he. He found me just completely, like, in piss and all this stuff because my. My apartment didn't even have a doorknob. It was on Yucca and Highland. There was, like, no doorknob. I think it's still there. It's, like, behind a liquor store now. And he, like, found me. And, like, my dad and I hadn't talked for, like, two and a half years at this point. And I don't know how. I don't know if he called him whatever, but my dad, like, showed up, took me to, like, Riverside Hospital. I was in there for, like, three weeks in, like, 2007, 2008, and. Yeah, and then I kind of got a little better then. My dad was trying to get me back to go to college. Did that for, like, six months. And then I moved back out again. My mom came out, so. But that was a rock bottom. And then 2019 was my rock. Rock bottom. 2019 was my. The meth. I was Mental hospitals. I. That's when I was, like, really hardcore into math. There was two guys that I dated who both have since passed from overdoses. And, yeah, I was just. I was just wild. I think I slept with probably, like, 200 guys that in one year, three mental hospitals. Like, just really beside myself. The Internet. Oh, my God. Everybody was making, like, hate videos about me. Like, Pewdiepie made a hate video. And I was like, oh, my God, like, what did I even do? So it was like my rock rock bottom. And. Which is ironically, I was the skinny skinniest, so sometimes it's Like, I want to be skinny. And then I was like, oh, maybe not that 2019 was rough.

Trisha Paytas (37:06)

Oh, my God.

Alex Cooper (37:07)

Wow.

Unknown (37:07)

But that was. And that was documented, that 2019, that was a rough year because you were.

Trisha Paytas (37:11)

On YouTube at that point.

Unknown (37:12)

Yeah, I was making, like, a lot of videos. There's a lot of deleted videos with the people I was with. Yeah, it just was really, like, crazy.

Trisha Paytas (37:19)

Let's talk about your OG YouTube days, because, yes, there were some videos put out that like. Like, people considered controversial and people, like, try to bring your old YouTube videos back to this day. Like, you got involved in, like, I feel like, a good bit of drama back then. Like, when you look back at the OG YouTube days, how do you feel about them? And how would you even describe them?

Unknown (37:42)

It's like, so many eras of YouTube, too. Like, the OG ones were just, like, so great. It was like, before you can make money on YouTube, it was just, like, fun. And then you start making money, and then it's like, where do you find your niche? Like I said, I never felt like I had, like, talent, so I was like, what can I do? Oh, I can't. I can, like, piss people off. I can do this. So I definitely went, like, the trolling route because it was, like, the most money I ever made without having to, like, strip or hook. And I was just like, this is it, you know? So, yeah, I definitely had a lot of, like, problematic videos and just stuff that, like, I didn't necessarily even think. I think if I was like, me, I could, like, hold stronger to, like, oh, I was just, like, young or whatever. But it was just, like, stuff I'd hear other people say that were, like. And I would just, like, repeat it. I just wanted to be shocking and, you know, and I, like, I totally own up to it. It. And I look back at my videos, I'm like, well, you know, some of them are pretty bad, but I try to give myself grace and forgiveness with that because I used to be really hard on myself. I'm like, I know I suck. I'm problematic. And to this day, like, I don't get sponsors on my podcast. Like, shout out to our Patreon. Like, our Patreons do it. And so it's, you know, it's great. But yeah, I definitely forever have, like, this, like, mark on me on the Internet of, like, kind of like, she's a little controversial, or, you know, you just. People don't want you, like, around, but, you know, it's fine. Like, again, I. My word of wise to people when I See, people trolling now on the Internet is like, just maybe don't, because it'll, like, follow you forever. People will think of you as that forever, and rightfully so. Like, you know, like, those clips will always be out there, and people either see the change in the growth or they don't. And I think either one you just have to, like, work with, you know?

Trisha Paytas (39:04)

But I do think it's helpful that you're, like, explaining your backstory, and that's why I wanted to talk to you about it today, because it's like, for sure. I bet I'll get comments being like, why the. Are you having Trisha Paytas on, like, always? What the. I totally understand that. I also, though, think it's important, like, the fact that you just said, like, I could make more money doing this than stripping and hooking. It's like, okay. Like, it's good to know someone's backstory. And I think when, again, when you're saying those type of things, usually the people that are saying those things, you're not in a great place.

Unknown (39:34)

Never. Oh, my God. Oh, back then, I just couldn't. I didn't care about me. My. I didn't think anything of the future. I was just like, I need to make money now. I'm just gonna piss people off. I don't care. I don't have friends for a reason. In never thinking, like, it would be a full career or anything, you know.

Trisha Paytas (39:49)

That'S what I also think. Sometimes, like, people feel like they're lucky because they can make their fake accounts. But, like, God forbid, one day, all of your fake account comments and trolling and you like, telling people to go kill themselves or whatever. Like, there are people on the Internet that are so ruthless, but they don't have the balls to do it publicly and have their own name on it. If that. God forbid, you walked into work one day and all of your comments were placed on your own desk, like, would you be fired or not? And I think it, like, if you look inward, all of those people are not in a good place. And clearly you weren't either.

Unknown (40:18)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (40:19)

And you've kind of had this, like, redemption arc. But, like, when you look back, do you think you were addicted to the drama once you started to see the money?

Unknown (40:27)

Oh, yeah. I mean, for so long, like, a good, like, 10, 12 years, I was so addicted. I was just so miserable. So, like, any attention was good attention. Money was just money. You know what I mean? So it just. Yeah, it's. It is crazy. But I did reap the karmatic, you know, effects of it all. So it does like you said, even the trolls. I think it, I think it's so real. I think karma is so real. And like I've reaped all of that 10 times over, I'm sure, and still do to this day. We get a sponsor and like everyone harasses them. Like, don't. So we lose. At this point I'm like, don't even give us sponsorships because I just know that. So it's fine. Luckily I have my ways to make money. But yeah, you just, you reap it for a long time.

Trisha Paytas (41:04)

So why do you think though second chances are so important and because I.

Unknown (41:09)

Think people do like change. I think majority of humans evolve as human beings, especially when you get older, when you find happiness, when you find love. Like, you mean people do change and I think like that's the whole point of humanity, right? Is like the evolution of it all. Like, I think our society shows that like, you know, from like us in like the 60s, you know, with like segregation stuff, you know, I think it's like just shown like obviously people are change, like change. So I think that's important. Otherwise you never like, never can grow and never can like, you know. But yeah, I've had second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth dances, so I'm appreciative all of them. Some people don't deserve them, some people don't want to give them to you. But I do think it's important to like try to see people changing because I think, I really think people do and can.

Trisha Paytas (41:49)

I agree. I think also it's really difficult on the Internet when you have a Persona that I even feel it sometimes. Like I feel like sometimes I've met people and they're like, oh my gosh, like I thought you were going to be such a. You're going to be this. And I, I'm like, oh. Like, I mean, I don't know, you can be honest like what you thought of before you met me.

Unknown (42:07)

Yeah, because you just hear all the stuff, right? You hear all the drama and so you're just like, wow, she's a ruthless. She's this. And you know, not to say I don't judge because obviously I know, like I know how people take things. But you hear those things or just how, I don't know, you think someone's just gonna be arrogant or whatever because you have all this like money and you're sketchy and you're pretty. So you're like, well, you just know, you know, I think you have the assumptions again at this age. I don't. I'm just like. And I was. I was surprised. The energy you have is just so. So different than, like, people would think. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (42:32)

No, I. I appreciate you saying that, because I think that's the point is, like, we see people online, and most of the time, we never get to meet these people in person. So, like, there's a image online that people will, like, assume of you, and it's really hard to break away from that. And so, obviously, like, I know my. My. The way that I got through it was like, I know the truth, and I know what happened, and I know. I feel like I can go to sleep and I'm a good person, and I. I have good people around me. And, like. And if I'm good with my life off the Internet, I think then I did become a better version of myself on the Internet, because it's like, when all you are looking for is validation from the Internet, which it seems like at one point that was. You didn't have friends. You were really in a dark place. Like, you're gonna just say some crazy and you don't give a. Yeah, but I do think second chances. You're right. Are important because, like, I'm so proud of the growth that I've had. And I know you feel the same way about yourself. Of, like, of course we've changed. And of course now, like, when you have things you care about, everything is put in perspective.

Unknown (43:30)

Oh, my God. So right now it's like, oh, I don't want to embarrass my husband. I want to embarrass my daughter. You know, you're like, so it changes everything about you. That's what I knew. Like, I had to change all of it. And it just. And I. I really do feel it. I'm like, people can see it or they don't see it. I don't care, because I feel better. But it does feel, especially right now, that people have, like, seen it. And it's not me saying I've changed this. You know, it just took time. You know, I think with anything, like, just public feuds, anything. You know, people always. You know, there's always sides that people pick without knowing the full truth. And it's just like. Like getting through that. And it doesn't really matter at the end of the day what people think, you know, about it. It's like, some people are gonna think I'm this person, something, whatever.

Trisha Paytas (44:01)

It's okay.

Unknown (44:02)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:02)

As long as you know who you are.

Unknown (44:03)

Yeah, let's. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (44:05)

Okay.

Unknown (44:05)

We're gonna play I love your giant cards.

Trisha Paytas (44:07)

Oh, my God. Huge.

Unknown (44:08)

I love that. Huge.

Trisha Paytas (44:09)

And there's, like, tiny little writing. I'm like, okay, let's play a game.

Unknown (44:12)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (44:13)

I'm gonna give you a topic, and I want to hear your opinion on it. Reusing nudes.

Unknown (44:19)

Oh, yeah. I do it all the time. My of is still that. It's just old nudes from 2020, and people still. Still new people come in. I sell them.

Trisha Paytas (44:25)

Oh, slay.

Unknown (44:25)

Or just, like, sending you. I mean, sending them too. But don't. You can tell now? I feel like you can tell by the dates now. People say, I don't know. Did you send nudes? Were you someone who sent nudes?

Trisha Paytas (44:33)

Oh, yeah.

Unknown (44:34)

Really? Oh, and you've never posted nudes online?

Trisha Paytas (44:37)

I've never posted dudes online. I just was such a nude girl. Like, I remember I dated this guy that was obsessed with nudes to the point where it was, like, very unhealthy.

Unknown (44:45)

And he was like, every day you're sending in them.

Trisha Paytas (44:48)

I would be at work, Trisha, and this man would be like, come on. Like, can I get a pic? And, like, I was in such a bad relationship with him that, like, I knew that, like, if I didn't, like, if is another girl gonna send him a nude? So I would feel so insecure. So there I was at work with, like, my, like, pencil skirt on, and I'd, like, mosey my way over to the bathroom.

Unknown (45:05)

Oh, you took him fresh. I thought you'd have, like, a library. No, no, no.

Trisha Paytas (45:09)

Trust me. I. And oh, my God, Like, I would absolutely edit them. I would, like, go back. I know. Literally, I would slay. I would be at work on the clock, getting paid. I would go take it in, like, the handicap bathroom. Sorry.

Unknown (45:22)

Oh, my God. It was fine, but bigger.

Trisha Paytas (45:23)

And, like, I needed my privacy. God forbid someone walks in in the stalls, and I'm, like, getting that ass shot.

Unknown (45:29)

I'm sure if there was a handicapped person walking, you'd give them the song.

Trisha Paytas (45:31)

For sure.

Unknown (45:32)

For sure.

Trisha Paytas (45:33)

And so I would get out, and I would go back to my desk, and I would, like, look around, and I would always had a girl behind me. And whenever she would go to lunch, I would pull up my nude. I would go on PicMonkey, and I would start, like, rearranging, like, make the ass fatter everything. And then I would, like, send it off to him and be like, here you go. And he'd be, like, so hot, so fire. And Then I would save those, though. And then obviously, like, if I was talking to another guy that day, like, here you go.

Unknown (45:55)

Oh, my gosh.

Trisha Paytas (45:57)

I loved a good nude. I thought that I. It almost became, like, an art form at one point.

Unknown (46:01)

Right?

Trisha Paytas (46:02)

You know, like, you really get those angles. You learn how to, like, make it look good. Like, I loved Good News. Yeah, it was fun. And then, oh, my God, Like, I've definitely sent, like, some videos and, like, all that stuff, but I never went. I never made money off of it. No.

Unknown (46:13)

Never. Would it ever get out? No one ever posted out of you?

Trisha Paytas (46:16)

No, because I think, like, I know the amount of people that I've sent it to. Like, I know those specific guys.

Unknown (46:21)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (46:21)

And if they ever did, like, I think they know I would try to sue them. So I think they're, like, too scared.

Unknown (46:25)

Especially now, I feel like they would put you out there because you're you.

Trisha Paytas (46:28)

Right? But I'm like, yeah, but, like, try me. Let's go to court, motherfucker. But God forbid, like, I ever feel like I got to pull out. I'm going to bring out my. I have literally an old nude, like, catalog, like, album. Like, yeah. You know, you've got that MacBook that you've got it on, and you're like, oh, which one should I use today?

Unknown (46:42)

Retirement plan.

Trisha Paytas (46:45)

Yeah, I should change the album name from Old Nudes to Retirement Plan.

Unknown (46:50)

I mean, it's kind of like everyone's doing it now, but I get you. I totally get you.

Trisha Paytas (46:55)

Meeting your celebrity idols. Have you ever. Who are your idols?

Unknown (46:59)

Oh, I love meeting celebrity idols. Yeah. I think. I think, like, the bigger the idol, the nicer they are. I feel. I feel like when you, like, a Z List person, they have, like, you know, maybe, like, Tom Sandoval or something. I don't know. I don't really know him, but I just know he's all worked out. Like, he probably won't be nice, but I've met, like, Quentin Tarantino, Eminem. The Weeknd just sent me a dm, and I feel like the bigger they are, the nicer they are.

Trisha Paytas (47:18)

We. I saw you talking about this on your podcast. What? It was the DM from him, literally.

Unknown (47:22)

I was on a podcast, like, like, two weeks of the Zack Saying show, and I was like, oh, I. I pay for music. And I'm like, I just bought, like, six of the weekend songs. And he's like, thanks for the support. Me and my team appreciate you. Like, sent me a DM, and I was like, wow. Here. Said I spent $6 on his music. Everything they do.

Trisha Paytas (47:36)

Because I. I think I saw. Who did I see? I think I saw Snoop Dogg recently saying, like, there were a billion streams and he made 40k from it.

Unknown (47:44)

No, that's wild to me. That's why I buy the music off itunes. And I still do, and they appreciate it. I mean, I was shook. I was like, oh, my God, abel's in my DMs. Was crazy.

Trisha Paytas (47:51)

Like, literally. Maybe they need to start an only fans.

Unknown (47:53)

Like, I know.

Trisha Paytas (47:54)

He's like, babe, thanks for the $6. You're like, Babe, literally get an only fan. I was like, let's go.

Unknown (47:58)

He would make bank if he was on Only Fans. Well, I mean, the Idol is basically, like, only fans. It's just him, like, Lily Rose Depp. And I loved it. That's how I became a fan this year. I saw the Idol and I was.

Trisha Paytas (48:06)

Like, that was crazy.

Unknown (48:08)

I never get horny about anything. And, like, literally, that show made me, like, crazy.

Trisha Paytas (48:12)

Okay, Taco Bell pass.

Unknown (48:14)

Is this. What are we playing? Are we doing pass or smash? Am I rating this Taco Bell? No, I just.

Trisha Paytas (48:21)

I love how also, like, you're right. We've kind of changed the game for.

Unknown (48:25)

Every single one of the game originally.

Trisha Paytas (48:27)

Oh, I want to hear your opinion on.

Unknown (48:29)

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

Trisha Paytas (48:30)

Taco Bell.

Unknown (48:32)

I'm not. I love fast food, but I'm just not a Taco Bell fan.

Trisha Paytas (48:34)

What's your favorite fast food place?

Unknown (48:37)

McDonald's.

Trisha Paytas (48:38)

McDonald's?

Unknown (48:38)

Yeah. Just because there's one close to us. I always get the nuggets. Right now they have adult Happy Meals. Oh, wait. I think we're boycotting McDonald's. Maybe. I think everyone told me we're boycotting them. We?

Trisha Paytas (48:45)

Why?

Unknown (48:46)

Oh, well, I don't know. I don't get political, but I think something is happening with them. So I'll be on a strike until the strike is over.

Trisha Paytas (48:53)

But where are you gonna get your nuggets?

Unknown (48:55)

Oh, man. Baby. Chick Fil a. Chick Fil a is controversial.

Trisha Paytas (48:58)

We get them.

Unknown (48:59)

I know.

Trisha Paytas (48:59)

They don't support the gays.

Unknown (49:00)

Oh, no. A lot of my gay friends love Chick Fil A, so I go with them. Everything's controversial.

Trisha Paytas (49:05)

That's interesting. If you go to Chick Fil a with one of your gay friends, I think it's fine. Then it cancels it out.

Unknown (49:10)

I think so. They love it. So Chick Fil Gay. I love fast food, but they're all problematic. They are.

Trisha Paytas (49:22)

Okay, so McDonald's first, then chick Fil a. Do you like Wendy's?

Unknown (49:25)

I love Wendy's Spicy Nugget. I'm just a nugget person. I only get nuggets at all these places.

Trisha Paytas (49:29)

What do you dip it into?

Unknown (49:30)

Yeah. Oh, nothing. No sauce. Yeah. What? I have no sauce. Yeah. I recently heard Jenna Ortega says she has no sauce too. I'm like, no sauce. Girlies get it.

Trisha Paytas (49:39)

Wait.

Unknown (49:40)

Never.

Trisha Paytas (49:40)

This is cr.

Unknown (49:41)

There's no live. Try to find a clip of me eating sauce. You. Actually, there's clips of me trying sauce, but I don't like. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (49:47)

Wait, do you. So you don't like ranch dressing?

Unknown (49:49)

No, I don't like any sauce. Like, no barbecue, no ketchup, no mustard your whole life. Yeah, I'm just like. I like a plain. I'm very. My tastes are plain. I love, like, butter noodles. I love chicken tenders, like, pizza. Like, that's what I like. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (50:00)

I have food for you to try downstairs now. I'm, like, rethinking everything.

Unknown (50:03)

Did you make it?

Trisha Paytas (50:04)

I'm having someone make it right now.

Unknown (50:05)

Oh, my boo. Oh, my God. You have a content house with a chef? Do you live here? Like, no, Just to shoot here. I was like, wow.

Trisha Paytas (50:13)

I just begged someone downstairs. I'm like, listen, there's this one pasta that I want Trisha to try. Do you think.

Unknown (50:17)

Wait, what?

Trisha Paytas (50:17)

Yeah, I want you to try it. You know how, like, girls are like, oh, my God. Like, I have my, like, like, my girl dinner, and it's like, when the men are away, the girls will play, and, like, you make, like, just dumb shit that, like, men would be like, I'm not eating that shit. So, like, I grew up on this, like, spaghetti sauce that my mom would make me, but it's like this, like, progresso. Like, I don't even want to.

Unknown (50:35)

Progresso.

Trisha Paytas (50:36)

Yeah.

Unknown (50:37)

Is that, like. Wait, what? Oh, progress. It's like, prego sauce. Because I do, like. I like pasta sauce. I'm trying to figure out progresso sauce. I love a jar sauce, if that's what you're talking about. Okay. I have prego.

Trisha Paytas (50:55)

I can't breathe. It's in a jar, and I swear to God, Trisha, I want you to try it. Like, I know you like plain stuff. Like, I'm interested to see your take on it.

Unknown (51:03)

I love pasta sauce.

Trisha Paytas (51:04)

Okay.

Unknown (51:04)

I love pasta sauce.

Trisha Paytas (51:05)

We're film it downstairs. But, like, it's good to know.

Unknown (51:07)

Where's that going? Yes. Bonus content. Where does that go?

Trisha Paytas (51:11)

Gotta get that coin, girl.

Unknown (51:12)

I love it. I'm not. Save, save, save.

Trisha Paytas (51:15)

I'm like, you're gonna save for 10 hours? Right.

Unknown (51:17)

I love it.

Trisha Paytas (51:17)

We're good to go.

Unknown (51:18)

I will.

Trisha Paytas (51:19)

Okay, so no to Taco Bell.

Unknown (51:20)

No Taco Bell.

Trisha Paytas (51:21)

Okay, I'm crying. Okay, Internet trolls. What is your opinion on them?

Unknown (51:25)

Oh, gosh. Oh, well, I have a soft spot for them because I was an Internet troll for a minute. Now I can't stand them. I see people yelling at the camera, being ridiculous. I'm like, oh, no. This is gonna haunt you forever.

Trisha Paytas (51:37)

You should literally on. Every time you see something, doing trolling videos, be like, trust me.

Unknown (51:42)

Stop, stop. Yeah, there's that girl, that Pearl girl out there now. And I'm like, girl, let's pump the brakes. This is gonna follow you forever, dude.

Trisha Paytas (51:49)

Wait, I feel like I know who you're talking about. She's like, mean.

Unknown (51:52)

Anti. Yeah, she's like, kind of anti woman, I think. I don't know. She's like a woman, but, like, hates women. She's like, oh, if you're. If you're divorced, you're less than. Or if you have sex before marriage, like, they don't want you, I don't.

Trisha Paytas (52:01)

Know, have, like, strawberry red hair. She's made videos about me being Alex Cooper, and I always just stop it immediately. Yeah, I never watch the video because I'm too scared.

Unknown (52:11)

Yeah. I don't want to know of everyone. And I get it. It's like a shtick or something, hopefully. But I'm like, girl, this is, like, gonna not do well for you because you'll, like, run out of money. Like, you'll spend the money. I know. Trust me. I've made, like $10 million trolling, and I wasted all of it. I didn't buy a house until only fans. So I'm just like, no, girl, girl, stop. I know she'll probably clip this and.

Trisha Paytas (52:30)

Be like, you shut up. Like, oh, literally.

Unknown (52:35)

No, I know I used to be scared of people talking about me, but I'm like, oh, no. I just. I literally, like, I have again, it comes from a place of. I know what it's like. Like, I get it. And I'm just like, oh, no.

Trisha Paytas (52:43)

Do you ever scroll on Tick Tock and if you hear someone talking about you, do you watch the video?

Unknown (52:48)

I scroll instantly. The last. I don't even have. But the last person I saw talk about me, I, like, literally cried for days.

Trisha Paytas (52:54)

What?

Unknown (52:55)

Yeah, she told me I looked like I had electrocuted hair. And I, like, cried for literally, like a week. And I'm like, why is this affecting me so much? It was literally like a month ago, and I couldn't stop crying.

Alex Cooper (53:03)

Wait.

Trisha Paytas (53:03)

I'm so sorry. That's so mean.

Unknown (53:05)

I had a lot of postpartum hair loss, but when I was young, people made fun of me for having, like, frizzy hair. It was this whole thing. So I kind of. So it hasn't happened in so long that someone made fun of my hair. I'm used to weight. I'm used to acne. And I was like, oh, my God, this one, like, hit this one. Hit hard.

Trisha Paytas (53:18)

That's when it's the most fcked up. As if it's something from like when you were younger, that was like something you got the bullied out of you for and that. Or that you were just insecure about for yourself.

Unknown (53:27)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (53:27)

When you're an adult and someone picks on it, you're like, I'm regressing to being 12 right now, and I'm sobbing.

Unknown (53:33)

That's why I thought it's like that and like eating like chicken parm. Like, both of those things are like weird things that you wouldn't think. Like, people call me fat, people call me other things. I'm just like, oh, I don't care. But those I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (53:40)

That was so sorry.

Unknown (53:41)

Yeah. So I. But it's because I, like, stayed on it for a minute. I saw, and I was just like, let me hear what this person has mistake. Because I like the person. Because I was like, oh, I love this person. I talk nice about them all the time. And I was like, oh. And then I like, yeah. So I. And I. I like, I don't like to be in like, the drama of it all, but I was just like, damn, that one hurt. That one hurt, like, hard.

Trisha Paytas (53:58)

It's just like, again, stop being mean to people on the Internet. Like, why are also. I just feel like it's so. We're so above. Or we at least some. We should be commenting on women's appearance.

Unknown (54:09)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (54:10)

Aren't we done with that?

Unknown (54:11)

Just like, in general, like, hair weight. I'm just like, that's it. Like, like there should be. Again, I get. Guess it's like a compliment. Like, that's what you're going for. Like, that's the only thing.

Trisha Paytas (54:18)

But.

Unknown (54:19)

But it's the worst thing to hear as a woman is like your appearance.

Trisha Paytas (54:21)

You're right. And I feel like it's expected from a man because it's like, you're dumb. But from a woman, you're like, you know, it sucks.

Unknown (54:28)

It sucks because I'm so, like pro women now. So I'm very. And I know I haven't always been. That's what I'm saying. The karma kind of comes back to me. I'm like, all right, I guess I deserve it. I guess I've talked enough about other people's appearances, so, you know, it does come back around. So I'm like, okay, I'll take it. That's how I. I have to look at. I'm like, it's just another Karmatic.

Trisha Paytas (54:42)

You got thick skin, girl.

Unknown (54:44)

Yeah, sometimes. But sometimes I really do. Like, I haven't cried in a long time, and I was like, oh, my God, why am I crying? And like, last night when I cried over the pasta, I'm like, this is very odd. Usually I'm not like that.

Trisha Paytas (54:51)

Well, at least you allow yourself to cry. I feel like sometimes people hold it in too much. If you're gonna cry, cry, and then keep eating that pasta.

Unknown (54:56)

Yeah, let's go.

Trisha Paytas (54:57)

Let's go. Cry. How do you feel about reincarnation? Do you believe in it?

Unknown (55:03)

Oh, oh, I don't know. What do you think?

Trisha Paytas (55:06)

Didn't I see something on the Internet that people were convinced since. What is the theory?

Unknown (55:09)

The mama baby?

Trisha Paytas (55:11)

Yes.

Unknown (55:11)

Oh, yeah, I did. I did have the. I did birth the reincarnation of Queen Elizabeth last year, I guess. Which, you know what? Honestly makes me believe it.

Trisha Paytas (55:19)

Wait, why do people think that?

Unknown (55:21)

It was so weird. It was the weirdest. It was okay. Literally, someone looked it up. It was the most time I was searched. It was. The most searched I've ever been. Was in September 2022, a week before my daughter was like, more search than anything that's ever happened in my life. Any controversial thing. That was the Google high point. And it was so weird. It was like, a week before I gave birth, I said I was like 1cm dilated, which is like, you know, normal. And you're gon gonna give birth in like, a week or two, right? But then the queen died the next day, and everyone's like, trisha just gave birth, and the queen's in, and I was still very much pregnant. I just didn't have my phone with me. It was very. It was so bizarre. Like, TMZ was calling my dad, my mom, like, everything. It was the weirdest.

Trisha Paytas (55:55)

Oh, my God. You know why you were probably so searched? It's like you kind of, like, tapped into, like, you infiltrated the royal family. Like, but everyone in England was like, wait, who is this? I need to.

Unknown (56:04)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (56:04)

Like, is the queenie coming out of that V? Like, what the the is going on?

Unknown (56:08)

She died I'm, like, trending. I have a screenshot, like, right underneath her. Like, it's so bizarre. I know. When I announced my pregnancy, everyone's like, oh, King Charles, nine months left. No, don't even start it.

Trisha Paytas (56:19)

Wait, I was.

Unknown (56:20)

Yeah, it's funny now. At the time, I was actually a little traumatized. I was like, oh, my God, what did I do? Like that. Because I didn't even start it. Like, I get if I start my own. And I was like, no. And I was out of drama. I was so out of drama. I didn't have my podcast. I was, like, not talking about anyone. I was like, oh, we're back. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (56:34)

Not, like, that bad of drama to be a part of. Because you're like, oh, my God. Like, I just gave birth to, like, the new queen. Yeah, but that's also going to be such an interesting thing. Like, if your daughter Googles herself one day. Like, not about Google search.

Unknown (56:45)

Yeah, for sure. You're queen. And she kind of is. She's very, like, royal, regal. She waves to everybody. She's very that, actually. So if I do believe reincarnation, I do believe that could be. Yeah. I don't know how Queen Elizabeth was. I heard maybe she's not a nice person, but maybe she'll be reincarnated as a good person. I don't know. I know nothing about the royal family, but.

Trisha Paytas (57:01)

Okay. How do you feel about retail therapy? Therapy?

Unknown (57:03)

Oh, my God. That's all I do all day, every day. I spend way too much money.

Trisha Paytas (57:07)

What do you spend your most money on?

Unknown (57:08)

Purses. I have so many purses. Yeah, I have too many. I probably have, I don't know, maybe 500 purses. And I sell a lot, too, so I have, like, about 500 persons.

Trisha Paytas (57:16)

Wait, but you said you never leave your house.

Unknown (57:18)

Yeah, just buy it online. Like, 2020. I bought, like, six Birkins that were, like, a million dollars all together, and now I can't sell them. I wish I could. I've had so many Birkins that are ugly, and I'm like. I'm like, I have, like, a dead ostrich in my closet. And I'm like, I don't want this anymore.

Trisha Paytas (57:32)

Wait, and you, like, you barely leave your house also. So, like, where do you wear them, dear?

Unknown (57:37)

You're like, I love your Prada bag. I'm like, thank you. This is my only shot to wear it.

Trisha Paytas (57:41)

Oh, my God. So, like, whenever you're gonna go do an appearance, you'll wear it, but other than that, it just sits in the closet.

Unknown (57:45)

But my closet's beautiful. It's like sparkles and shine. It makes me really happy. Like they actually just make me happy to look at them. I used to like never wear my purses out. Like, I just love to look at them.

Trisha Paytas (57:53)

Look at them. What's your favorite favorite one?

Unknown (57:55)

Oh, I have the Paris Hilton Birkin. Like the pink one with the sawaskis on it. It's the same retailer that got up the privy. Porter. Shout out pretty porter. She made Paris's bag and then she made mine and I love it. But when you get the aftermarket crystals, they go down in value so much. So I wouldn't suggest that I bought a fifty thousand dollar rainbow Birkin and no one even wants. I can't even give it away for like $8,000. So. Yeah, so don't do aftermarket. But I love my pink one. I don't like the rainbow one.

Trisha Paytas (58:16)

Okay, let's talk.

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Trisha Paytas (62:01)

Okay, let's talk about sex.

Unknown (62:02)

Okay.

Trisha Paytas (62:03)

I think that you obviously exude confidence and I know you have kind of like lightly in this interview talked about just like your relationship to men has evolved. But to women that are like, Trisha, how the do we get confident in the bedroom? Like, what personally would you say makes you feel you feel the most confident in your sex life?

Unknown (62:21)

Oof. You know what it is, I always say this to everyone is like, guys really don't care if they're like with you at that point where they're like undressing you. Like they don't care. Do you know what I mean? I've. I don't know. Guys just, they kind of get what they get. You know what I mean? They just are excited to be with you. And I've never, I've never been insecure in that way because maybe because I've like hooked and I've been with like like 500 guys. Like, I mean, maybe that made me more confident weirdly, but I've just never had any like complaints And I used to have, like, uneven boobs. I mean, like, back when I was, like, a hugger. I mean, I didn't shower for, like, five days. And they would be fine with it. So I think guys are just kind of nasty and they'll just take what they get. So don't feel bad if you're hygienic. I think that's a plus.

Trisha Paytas (63:00)

If you put on deodorant that day.

Unknown (63:02)

Girls, they're fine.

Trisha Paytas (63:03)

Yeah, you're good.

Unknown (63:04)

Just do a lot of wash.

Trisha Paytas (63:05)

It's such a good point. Men are, like, kind of disgusting. And so I feel like sometimes like we're in our own heads about, like, oh, my God, do I need. Need to do this? This? No, you don't need to do no show up.

Unknown (63:14)

I. Yeah, I've been with. And I've been with all types. And I think, like, in, like, I've been saying, like, oh, I've been like, on the streets or whatever, but I also been with, like, you know, some WWE wrestlers that, like, prefer a big girl. You know what I mean? And they, like, love it and they can't get enough of it. You know what I mean? So I think there's just, like, types. And some people love a skinny girl, but they're not gonna go to bed with you if they want a skinny girl. Whoever's, like, in bed with you, like, wants you. So I don't know. I've never had any complaints. Like I said, I've had, like, my boobs have been uneven. I've, like, I've looked crazy so many times. The guys just don't care. And I think as long as you're not. I don't know. I've never been self conscious about that. I don't know why.

Trisha Paytas (63:46)

No, I think that's great. I think that's why I know people want to hear from you on it. Because I think you're right. Of, like, we are in our own head so much more than men are. Like, if. If you're right, if he's in the room with you and wanting to have sex with you. There you go.

Unknown (63:58)

Yeah, he's. That's it. They're not gonna be like, no, thank you. I've never had anybody like, oh, no, you know what I mean? Ever.

Trisha Paytas (64:05)

Exactly. Like, you got a vagina. They're gonna.

Unknown (64:07)

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Guys are very easy that way. So I always feel bad when girls get, like, self conscious. And I like that. I'm like, they guys want you.

Trisha Paytas (64:13)

Like, I've had girls write in being like, oh, My God. Like, I'm insecure about my labia or with the way it looks. I'm like, don't be.

Unknown (64:18)

Oh, right.

Trisha Paytas (64:19)

Don't be.

Unknown (64:19)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (64:20)

Men don't give up.

Unknown (64:21)

And people love all types. They love the outies, the ennis, the in between. They love all of it.

Trisha Paytas (64:25)

Exactly. Like, who cares? How old were you when you had your first orgasm?

Unknown (64:30)

Oh. Oh, my God. Like, 32.

Trisha Paytas (64:33)

I love that you say that, though, because I think so many women. Women, even if they would lie about it, like, I bet a lot of women feel that same way. Like, they. We, of course, we didn't have orgasms at such young age.

Unknown (64:44)

Yeah. I don't know how people do.

Trisha Paytas (64:45)

Men don't know how to please.

Unknown (64:47)

Guys don't care about it.

Trisha Paytas (64:48)

Did you give it yourself or did you get it from a guy?

Unknown (64:50)

Oh, the first time. The first time was with a three. It was like, in a threesome. They had one of those. I call them hibachi. They're not hibachi, are they? Hitachi.

Trisha Paytas (64:57)

Hitachi.

Unknown (64:57)

Yes. Yes.

Trisha Paytas (64:59)

Yes.

Unknown (64:59)

That, like, changed my life for real. That was like. I was in, like, this, like, thrust triple, and they used it on me, and I was like, oh, my God. That was when I was like. I didn't know if I was peeing or what. I was like. Everything was going everywhere. It was insane.

Trisha Paytas (65:09)

Oh, my God.

Unknown (65:10)

So that was, like, the first time I knew what it was supposed to feel like. And that's why I was like, holy. Like, that was, like, explosive.

Trisha Paytas (65:15)

So, wait, that's so funny, because Bridget and Holly, when they came on, Bridget was the one that talked about it. She was like, with Hef. Like, obviously, we weren't getting off, so we would have these Mr. Hitachis, and she taught me about it. And now. Okay, so they're Mr. Hitachi.

Unknown (65:27)

They're so good. Yeah. And so that was, like, the thing where I was like, oh, that's what. Even when I did, only fans, like, all my squirty ones are with that. Because it's just, like. It's just so intense, like, if you don't know how to do it or what. Because I'm like, how does that even happen? Or you're scared to, like, forces you to. I mean, with your consent.

Trisha Paytas (65:39)

Wait. Right.

Unknown (65:39)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (65:40)

But you're the one pressing the button, like you're expecting.

Unknown (65:43)

But it's like, you don't even have a choice because it's so much pressure. And you're just like, well, this is gonna.

Trisha Paytas (65:46)

Here we go.

Unknown (65:47)

Yeah. Wait.

Trisha Paytas (65:47)

That's so Interesting.

Unknown (65:49)

So if you have like trouble orgasming or you don't know how it's supposed to feel, like, highly recommend going on like the big setting of those and.

Trisha Paytas (65:54)

Just get it going.

Unknown (65:55)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (65:55)

We. When you say you were in a throuple, was it for just sexual or were you actually in a relationship with a couple?

Unknown (66:00)

Kind of was just sexual. But they did come to my birthday party. I think she's done like videos about me. I think she did an interview, is about someone. It was like my first like, thruffle relation. They were gorge. Oh, my God. She was like hot. You know, fake implants. He was like gorge. Six pack anesthesiologist. Like, they were really gorge. And yeah, I think it was just like my Tinder year. I think that was 2019. But it was. They were. It was great. I don't know. I think I was just like, so curious about everything.

Trisha Paytas (66:22)

How do you even get involved in that? Like, do you like, did you meet her or him?

Unknown (66:25)

Tinder.

Trisha Paytas (66:26)

Oh. Oh, Emma.

Unknown (66:27)

Him on Tinder. Yeah. And then he's like, this is my girl. They show right away, like, this is my girlfriend. I was like, oh, this could be exciting. You know what I mean? And it was. It was actually really, really fun. Yeah. And how did.

Trisha Paytas (66:35)

How do those things end?

Unknown (66:37)

It was fine, honestly. I think. What was that one?

Trisha Paytas (66:40)

What was that one?

Unknown (66:41)

I know. I'm trying to think. I was dating a lot of people at the time. I was like dating so many people, so I think I was just like, not like looking to date. I think they wanted to date, date. And I was kind of like not looking for that.

Alex Cooper (66:49)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (66:49)

Like, three people in a relationship is tough.

Unknown (66:51)

Oh, I don't know how they do that. Yeah. But they did that all the time time with people. And I think they wanted to bring someone in, like, to date. Wow. And I don't know if I think for me, I was like, oh, I'm gonna introduce like my parents, like my mom, you know, I'm really close with. And not that she's like, not judgmental, but I don't think she would get it. Like, this is my boyfriend and girlfriend. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (67:06)

Okay. No, I get that you're like, hi, this is my couple. Yeah. And I'm the third.

Unknown (67:10)

It's still bizarre. Yeah, I see it on TikTok. And I think more power to people. But I'm always like, this is. It's still bizarre to me.

Trisha Paytas (67:15)

I get.

Unknown (67:16)

Maybe it'll get more normalized.

Trisha Paytas (67:17)

So the Mr. Hitachi. What are. I was Gonna say what. What are your top three, like, sex toys in the bedroom that you would recommend? So one is Mr. Hitachi. What are another two.

Unknown (67:25)

That's the first. I think that's pretty much it. I've been liking plugs lately, which I normally don't love, like, an anal thing, but I just think they look really pretty and it feels like. It just feels more pressurized. And I've been really into, like, that lately.

Trisha Paytas (67:39)

I agree.

Unknown (67:40)

It's great. I think, like, try out plugs and I think it kind of just like. I don't know, it just feels good if it's not anything else. Just gives you, like, a little more added pressure.

Trisha Paytas (67:47)

I completely agree.

Unknown (67:48)

I've never had, like, a gang bang, but I'm assuming that's what it feels like, right? You like all your holes filled? I don't know. Maybe not maybe. I don't know what a gang bang is.

Trisha Paytas (67:59)

I love you, Trisha.

Unknown (68:01)

That's what I would imagine. Not to say I want all my holes filled. By the way. I usually prefer just sex. Like we do vanilla sex. But I love it. Like, it's like my fave. I don't need two things filled me up. You know what I mean?

Trisha Paytas (68:12)

So the plug can just be like, there's.

Unknown (68:14)

It's fun. It's fun for like, an added, like, bonus. You know what I mean? But yeah, I'm kind of just vanilla, actually when it comes to, like, sex. I kind of just, like, love to have sex with just as is.

Trisha Paytas (68:22)

I like. Yeah, I like that.

Unknown (68:23)

Yeah. But yeah.

Trisha Paytas (68:24)

Do you. If you have advice for someone, like, how do you approach your partner if you want to try a new thing in the bedroom?

Unknown (68:30)

I don't know. I guess just be honest. Although, you know, I've had people ask me to do some weird stuff and I'm like, that's weird. So I don't know, I'm like, the last person to ask about this kind of thing. Right.

Trisha Paytas (68:39)

Like, try to read the room, maybe.

Unknown (68:41)

Yeah. Like, know your partner. Like, if he asked me to do something freaky, I might, like, look at him kind of weird. I don't know. Right.

Trisha Paytas (68:45)

Like, I'm done at breaking up with you.

Unknown (68:46)

Yeah. I've had people, like, ask me to, like, hang upside down, like, weird stuff. I'm just like, I don't know. I mean, I guess that's like a thing with, like, swings. I'm just not hang upside down.

Trisha Paytas (68:54)

Right. Like, how would they you if you're hanging upside down there?

Unknown (68:56)

Yeah. It's like the swing and you're like, upside down. And I guess they. I don't know. I didn't do it because I'm like, that looks so dangerous. It was high up and just, like, get a headache. Yeah, I don't like it. I don't like anything that involves, like, hurting blood, any of that stuff. Like, people always want to, like, slice you open and stuff. And I'm like, no, thank you. Have you.

Trisha Paytas (69:11)

Have you had someone ask?

Unknown (69:13)

Yes. Multiple times.

Trisha Paytas (69:15)

They want to slice you open?

Unknown (69:16)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (69:17)

Are you army hammer?

Unknown (69:19)

Yes. Not him. Oh, someone close. Actually, when that came out, I was like, wait. And then I was like, oh, no, it's someone who kind of looks like him.

Trisha Paytas (69:27)

No way.

Unknown (69:27)

Yeah. I think celebrities can be, like, the freakiest. Especially, like, those kind of celebrities are like D List, you know, they're kind of like, freaky.

Trisha Paytas (69:33)

You know, Tom Sandoval's cutting them up, like.

Unknown (69:38)

Whoa.

Trisha Paytas (69:38)

So you've had people literally be like, they want to. What do they do? They just want to cut you or drink your blood?

Unknown (69:43)

Yeah, like that. Yeah, just drink the blood and also just like, slice you, like, on your stomach a little bit. Because they say it's like, has fat there, so you can't die. Like, you can't bleed out. I don't know. I've had a couple people say it. Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (69:53)

And what do you say?

Unknown (69:54)

No, absolutely not. I can't do that. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (69:57)

Do you proceed to have sex with them or do you just leave immediately?

Unknown (70:01)

Leave immediately. No, leave immediately. The one that wanted me to hang upside down, I guess I stayed with. He was kind of. He kind of like Marilyn Manson a little bit. He kind of like, like those vibes. So I was into that for a second. I'm like, oh, yeah, this is my. This is my person. But, yeah, I just said I, like, couldn't do it. Like, physically couldn't do it.

Trisha Paytas (70:16)

You're funny. This is hilarious.

Unknown (70:19)

I don't want. You can talk about this because I feel like no podcasts talk about sex.

Trisha Paytas (70:21)

Oh, my God. Oh, yeah.

Unknown (70:22)

You're on Spotify, so. Yeah. You're not demonetized on YouTube. I'm like, YouTube, they can't say anything.

Trisha Paytas (70:27)

Oh, no. I'm like, let's talk about everything.

Unknown (70:28)

Yeah, no, that's great. It's so funny.

Trisha Paytas (70:30)

What do you think of for advice for someone who wants to lose their anal V card? Like, give us the advice, Trisha.

Unknown (70:36)

Let's take some poppers, you know, loosen it up a little bit. Because that's the only thing I could.

Trisha Paytas (70:39)

Think of right but do you even enjoy it?

Unknown (70:42)

No. I mean, like I said, I love the plug recently. Yeah, I don't love.

Trisha Paytas (70:46)

I don't love, like, anal penetration because.

Unknown (70:47)

You know what it is? I just eat so much food and I know you're not supposed to eat a lot before, like, you know, girls that do. Only fans. You're supposed to, like, clean it out. Guys too. All my gay friends, like, yeah, you can't eat before. And you're like. So I was like, yeah, that's the only time we have sex, like, after we eat. So I was like, why don't. No, I don't want to. Up in my butt after we eat.

Trisha Paytas (71:01)

Right? Like, I want my nuggets and I want my pasta.

Unknown (71:03)

Exactly. Oh, my God. Could you imagine having anal after lasagna? No, I don't know if I could imagine that. Just involuntary. Everything. I'm dead. I'm. I'm. I'm a bad, like, anal. I'm not an anal queen, that's for sure. But, you know, try it. Maybe start with some. A finger or something.

Trisha Paytas (71:23)

You know, a little pinky.

Unknown (71:24)

A little pinky. See if you like it. Some people really, like, love it. I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (71:28)

I get it. I think that. I think the pinky is a good way to start. You're right.

Unknown (71:31)

Right.

Trisha Paytas (71:32)

I'm loving your advice. Okay, so the daddy gang wrote in some scenarios that they're going through right now. There's drama in their life.

Unknown (71:38)

Okay?

Trisha Paytas (71:38)

And you're not a part of drama right now, Trisha. You're clean, you're free. You're like, oh, I. But now we need to read their drama and help them with their drama. Okay, so someone wrote in and said, my brother's messages linked to my laptop, and I just found out that he and my best friend have been seeing each other behind my back. I'm so traumatized from seeing these texts and pictures. There are so many messages of them talking about how I'll. How I'll react if I find out. But it's so hot that they're sneaking around lately. When she comes over, it seems like she's there for my brother. And the two of them actively leave me out. How do I confront them about the situation? And do I bring up the fact that I saw their nudes?

Unknown (72:20)

No, you're the sister. Like, what? Why do you care? Stop. That's weird. What is she gonna say? I saw your nudes, brother. You're hooking up with a girl. That's not me. How dare you. Like what? That's the weirdest question I've ever heard. Right? If it's your brother, you can be like, oh, my God. What? Like, it's so weird at Lannister Status over there. Just like, my brother's fucking someone else. I don't like it. It's weird.

Trisha Paytas (72:49)

I get what you're saying. Like, first of all, no, girl, you're not telling your brother. Like, I saw that dick pic. Like, that shit's big.

Unknown (72:59)

Like, yeah, that's more on you. I would immediately stop looking at messages, looking at him like a weirdo.

Trisha Paytas (73:04)

I understand the side of, like, your friends lying to you. Like, you would like to know, like, is she going behind your back? Maybe just address it with your friend of, like, hey, I get you're hooked up with my brother. Can you just be honest so it's not awkward?

Unknown (73:15)

Or maybe they're not, like, serious yet. Maybe they're not. Like, you know, maybe they're just hooking up. Maybe they want to keep it. Like, why do you have to tell everyone your business? Be like, oh, yeah, we're actually having sex. If that's okay with you not quite dating, we'll let you know when it happened. Like, it's weird. I don't know, Trisha.

Trisha Paytas (73:29)

This is where friendship gets a little yucky.

Unknown (73:32)

I don't have friends, so I don't know. Don't listen to me on that one.

Trisha Paytas (73:37)

No, no, no. I definitely. I think you're right about the brother thing. Like, don't fucking tell him. Like, I saw your nudes. Like, leave the brother out.

Unknown (73:44)

Right, Right.

Trisha Paytas (73:45)

I think you could go up to your friend and be like, listen, I don't care what you, my brother, are doing. But, like, I don't want to constantly be sitting in the room and feeling like you guys are, like, keeping things for me. So, yeah, let's be open with it. You guys are fabulous. Let's move on.

Unknown (73:56)

Okay. You want to know? Okay, I don't think I'd want to know. I'd be like, just. It's fine. Don't tell me. Like, if you're having sex with my brother, I don't think I need to know. I think I'm good.

Trisha Paytas (74:03)

But if it was your best friend.

Unknown (74:04)

I guess I don't know that situation. So, yeah, I guess. I guess maybe.

Trisha Paytas (74:09)

No, you're right.

Unknown (74:09)

I still don't think I want to know. I don't even want to know my brother has sex with his wife. Like, I just don't want to know any of it. I'm like, I'm good.

Trisha Paytas (74:14)

I Actually kind of agree. Whenever I think about my brother having sex, I'm like, no, he doesn't.

Unknown (74:17)

Oh, no. I don't want to know any of those details. Don't tell me.

Trisha Paytas (74:20)

Yeah, so, girl, just let it go. Go.

Unknown (74:22)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just let them do what they're doing. Like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (74:25)

Yeah. And you go date.

Unknown (74:26)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (74:27)

Make yourself.

Unknown (74:28)

That might be. Yeah. Find something else to do.

Trisha Paytas (74:30)

Maybe she needs to get laid.

Unknown (74:31)

I think that's it. Where it's just like, if you're that concerned about your brother's sex life and if they're telling you or not, like, I don't know.

Trisha Paytas (74:37)

Move.

Unknown (74:37)

I get what you're saying, though. I get what you're saying, too.

Trisha Paytas (74:39)

Okay, next one. I have a group of six girlfriends, and we've all been close since high school. Recently, a new girl has been introduced to the group. She hasn't done anything actively wrong, and nobody seems to have an issue with her, but something about this girl just fucking annoys me. One day.

Unknown (74:59)

Get you out of the group.

Trisha Paytas (75:01)

One day. I had five glasses of wine too many and decided I was gonna say, say something. So I messaged her from a fake Instagram account.

Unknown (75:08)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (75:08)

I said, stop leeching onto other people's friend groups. It's sad.

Unknown (75:12)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (75:14)

Ruthless. Yeah, it's.

Unknown (75:16)

That's why I don't have friends. That's so scary. Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (75:21)

She said it's sad and pathetic. They obviously don't want you around, and they all feel too bad to tell you the truth, so I will.

Unknown (75:28)

Oh, my God. That girl sounds crazy. And I know you don't use that word lightly.

Trisha Paytas (75:34)

No, that's insane.

Unknown (75:35)

She.

Trisha Paytas (75:36)

She found out it was me by the email linked to the account and told all of our friends. Now I'm basically booted from the group. What should I do?

Unknown (75:45)

Oh, my God. Well, good. At least she was booted. At least she had some repercussions.

Trisha Paytas (75:51)

Dude, that's insane.

Unknown (75:52)

Crazy. This is why I don't want girlfriends. Like, that's so nuts.

Trisha Paytas (75:56)

I just. Just think, first of all, if you're gonna use a fake account, I've learned make a new email, go to a different.

Unknown (76:04)

Go to the library, get a different IP address. Don't let it be traced.

Trisha Paytas (76:09)

Literally. Dude, never. Never. If you are stalking people on your fake. Don't ever let them know it's you.

Unknown (76:14)

No.

Trisha Paytas (76:15)

Second of all, what is. So. What is this girl doing that's so triggering that you felt the need to message her from a fake account?

Unknown (76:22)

No one Likes you.

Trisha Paytas (76:23)

Do you ever go on your fake account? Do you have a fake account?

Unknown (76:25)

I don't have a fake account. Oh, have you ever had a lot?

Trisha Paytas (76:27)

Yeah.

Unknown (76:28)

Make a whole new account.

Trisha Paytas (76:29)

It's a lot.

Unknown (76:30)

No, I don't. I don't. I don't. I've never had a fake account. I've always just looked from my account, but I really just don't look, period, anymore. I used to look and like. Like find out everyone's doing and it's. Honestly, life is so much better when I don't look for real.

Trisha Paytas (76:40)

Trisha. Yeah, I used to have one. I would say, like, I would say a year and a half ago, I deactivated mine and I felt lighter, I felt happier. I've just felt like, why am I stalking an ex? Why am I, like, what am I doing?

Unknown (76:54)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (76:54)

Or even if I, like, saw something online, like, why am I on a fake account if I don't want people to know I'm looking at it, then just maybe I shouldn't be looking.

Unknown (77:00)

That's how I feel too. That's how I feel. Like, that feels weirder when you go on, like, incognito and stuff like that. Feels like you're doing something wrong.

Trisha Paytas (77:05)

I think that the moral of the story is, everybody delete your fake accounts. You don't need to have a fake account.

Unknown (77:11)

Feels better. I know how addicting it is because I was so addicted to, like, regret it. Looking up everybody I have, like, oh, how many views is this person getting that look? I get it, but it's, like, so time consuming, so energetic. And, like, the minute I did, like, I stopped in August of this year actually. And, like, I honestly, like, good things have come. Like, just like fortune has come. Income has, like, everything has come, like, for real. I'm like, wow. So I just didn't go back to it because, like, good energy was coming in. I was like, maybe there's something to this. So I was like, let me just stop putting, like, any sort of bad energy out there.

Trisha Paytas (77:35)

There has to be something to it. Because I also think, like, you're right. I. Oh, my God. I do. I think I read the last time I read Red it. I think now it's like, around two years ago that I stopped. And, like, I remember I was so consumed by it because you're constantly trying to be like, okay, these people think this about me. So then all of a sudden you're like, in a video or an episode trying to, like, appease them.

Unknown (77:53)

Yes.

Trisha Paytas (77:54)

And when you stop giving, also when I Look at it. I'm like, there's like 200 people. I'm like, whoa, we're really, like, shaking it up here. Like, why am I listening to 200 people? If you have like hundreds of thousands to millions of views on something. Yeah, obviously there's people that like what you're doing, so keep doing what you're doing and don't give them, like, energy.

Unknown (78:12)

It feels so much better. And honestly, like, I really feel like there's no. I mean, maybe because I just don't see it, but I'm like, oh, I feel like they hate My Reddit did get taken down. Like, no one can start a new reds on me. It's like, really weird.

Trisha Paytas (78:21)

Really?

Unknown (78:21)

Yeah, we did this, like, documentary on it. We like, called Reddit. All this stuff like that. And like, there's no more Reddit. It's mine had like 40, 000 people and now there's like, no more. And it's wonderful. So shout out red. I don't know what they did, but anyone who tries to make a new one on me, they take down right away. So.

Trisha Paytas (78:32)

Wait, that's amazing.

Unknown (78:33)

Yeah, there's no, there's, there's no trace snark at it. So they were like, crazy like I was during my pregnancy. They're, like, harassing, like, my doctors, and they were like, my baby's like, hospital. And like, they were just like, they were being nuts. They were putting my baby's like, image out there, like, photoshopping weird things with her. So I think they had to take it down because it was like, actually, that's disgusting. Yeah, so I think that, like, we did this whole thing about it this year because I was like, okay, what's gonna. And then now that it's down, it's just like, it's great. And I don't. So I don't, like, I don't see hate anymore.

Trisha Paytas (78:59)

So, dude, I swear to God, the only place, place that is. There's like main hate is on Reddit. And if you get that rid of your life, you're like, I know.

Unknown (79:06)

I have no hate anymore. It's wonderful. I was like, no one hates me.

Trisha Paytas (79:08)

No one hates me.

Unknown (79:10)

That's how I feel in my head. And I still feel that way.

Trisha Paytas (79:12)

Live that way, girl. Yeah, let it live that way.

Unknown (79:15)

It's like, perpetuated itself. Like, I feel like it manifested itself. Like, I feel like so many people like me now, and I'm like, oh, okay, maybe because I stopped looking at hate.

Trisha Paytas (79:21)

Done.

Unknown (79:21)

Now more people like me.

Trisha Paytas (79:22)

Done. Yeah, let's do one. Not friendship.

Unknown (79:24)

Okay. Because all these friendship ones, I'm like.

Trisha Paytas (79:26)

I don't know how of this. My boyfriend and I have been having ongoing conversations about getting engaged and planning to do that next year. But lately, something has been really weighing on my conscious. My question is, do I tell him that I gave his best friend the Gluck Luck 9000? The Gluck Luck 9000 blowjob on the trip that the two of us met before, obviously we had feelings for each other. We see this friend quite often, and I'm worried that my boyfriend will feel uncomfortable if he knows that I sucked his friend's dick.

Unknown (79:57)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (79:58)

Should I come clean, or is this something that you take to the grave?

Unknown (80:00)

Oh, my. Wait, did you trademark luck? Luck.

Trisha Paytas (80:02)

I did.

Unknown (80:03)

I love that. So, like, when people say it, you, like, get money. I love that. That's so smart. I remember that was such a big thing. Like, I really do. I just remember, like, wow. It was crazy.

Trisha Paytas (80:11)

It's great. It's a great thing.

Unknown (80:12)

Oh, my God. So smart. You trademarked it.

Trisha Paytas (80:13)

The double hand twist. Yes. Gluckluck.

Unknown (80:15)

You think about the sex toy. That's that. Because it sounds like a machine anyway.

Trisha Paytas (80:19)

It kind of does. Okay, good. Good to know where it feels like.

Unknown (80:22)

You'Re like, anyways, I don't know. That's.

Trisha Paytas (80:25)

That's tough.

Unknown (80:26)

I feel like you need to tell them. Otherwise, it's like fraud or something.

Trisha Paytas (80:28)

I agree. And God forbid, like, one night, like, something happens, like, if you're married and he finds out you never told him that it could, like, literally end a marriage.

Unknown (80:35)

Yeah. You're like, tell them.

Trisha Paytas (80:36)

Just tell him.

Unknown (80:37)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (80:38)

It was also. You guys didn't have feelings for each other at the time, right?

Unknown (80:41)

Yeah. It's a lot about how he reacts, too. Like, if he's upset about it, then, like, maybe that's not the one for you.

Trisha Paytas (80:45)

Right?

Unknown (80:45)

Like, and he's like, okay, it was before we met, whatever, right? Like, standing guy.

Trisha Paytas (80:48)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you a jealous person?

Unknown (80:50)

I was. I used to be. So. Oh, my God, I was so jealous. Like, at the beginning of our relationship, I was so jealous. All the stuff. And I had passwords go through his DMS every day. Like, I was super jealous, but now not at all. Like, I don't really.

Trisha Paytas (81:00)

No, you're fine. Yeah, you're fine.

Unknown (81:01)

I think so. But, like, he's so good. Like, he gives me no reason to be jealous. Like, even if, like, girls, like, you know, girls that like me want to picture with him, like, in public, he just says, like, no, because he just, like, doesn't want that out there. I'm fine with it. I'm like, literally, whatever. But he's very that. So he never gives me a reason to be jealous.

Trisha Paytas (81:14)

But that's the type of man you need in your life, for sure.

Unknown (81:15)

Because I am a jealous. I was. I was always very jealous. And everyone.

Trisha Paytas (81:18)

Yeah, I think I used to be jealous, but because it was coming from a place of insecurity, of, like, I had gotten cheated on before. So then I'm like, oh, my God, like, you must be doing it too. And so, like, when you're just not in, like, healthy relationships, the toxicity. You can't help but be kind of paranoid, which turns into jealousy, where you're like, oh, my God. Like, I don't want you out and I don't want you doing this. And then you're just, like, the worst version of yourself.

Unknown (81:38)

Yeah, it's. I think that's, like, the worst, like, jealousy. And we're together 24 7, so I think that helps too. I'm just like. We're never apart, so, yeah, we're, like, codependent in that. Or I'm codependent that way. So I don't know. But I never. Of course, now I'm, like, never jealous. And he's like, definitely not jealous. Like, I'll say, like, oh, my God, the weekend's so hot. Or whatever. And he's like, never gets jealous.

Trisha Paytas (81:54)

He's like, yeah, okay.

Unknown (81:55)

Yeah, yeah. Literally, I was like, he's the first one I texted when I got a DM from him. Like, the weekend is DM me.

Trisha Paytas (82:01)

He's like, yes, babe.

Unknown (82:02)

Oh, yeah. He's like, what are you gonna text back? Like, he was so excited.

Trisha Paytas (82:05)

If the Weeknd wanted to have a threesome with you guys, would you do it?

Unknown (82:09)

Oh, I would. I don't think my husband would. That would be, like, the dream come true. True.

Trisha Paytas (82:13)

I think he's gotta do it and just, like, suck it up. Okay.

Unknown (82:18)

No, no, I probably wouldn't because I. I love it. I love my husband so much, but. Because threesomes do get sticky. Like, I've. Anyone who wants a threesome at any time I've had a threesome, I feel like it just, like, ends in disaster.

Trisha Paytas (82:30)

It does, right?

Unknown (82:31)

Unless. I don't know. I feel like with my husband, of all people, like, I know I couldn't with another girl, I'd be so jealous. But I think with a guy, I don't think he would. I don't Know, I don't know. Even with a guy, I'd be, like, kind of weird.

Trisha Paytas (82:41)

I don't think I would with Matt either. I'm like, it's just too.

Unknown (82:43)

With another girl.

Trisha Paytas (82:44)

Yeah.

Unknown (82:45)

Yeah.

Alex Cooper (82:45)

I don't think too much.

Unknown (82:46)

See, especially if they have sex with a girl. Like, sometimes they don't have sex with other person. But I would. I'd be livid.

Trisha Paytas (82:52)

I would be literally in the bed like this.

Unknown (82:55)

Yeah. How people pissed. Oh, the thruffle I was in. She, like, loved watching it. They got off. I was like, this is. And I think that's amazing. Like, I like being the third, but, like, I don't know, being the main.

Trisha Paytas (83:04)

That'S bringing in the third. Yeah, you got to be a strong bitch.

Unknown (83:07)

No, I don't know how people do it.

Trisha Paytas (83:08)

And we.

Unknown (83:08)

Different person. Yeah, it's a different. Definitely a different breed, which. I'm like, more power to you. But I'm just like.

Trisha Paytas (83:14)

I completely agree.

Unknown (83:15)

It's crazy.

Trisha Paytas (83:16)

Okay, I have two more questions for you.

Unknown (83:18)

I like these.

Trisha Paytas (83:19)

What is the biggest misconception people have about you? We're done with the questions. Oh, okay.

Unknown (83:25)

You're like, put me in, right? Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (83:28)

What is the biggest misconception you think people have about you?

Unknown (83:31)

I think. You know what it is. I think it's just that I've had, like, bad intentions. I think people think I was like, I'm a bad person. Which I think is, like, the. The worst part, because through it, all of it, like, I've never really had bad intentions to, like, hurt anyone ever. And I think that's, like, the worst part of it, because I'm, like, truly at, like, my core. I've never, like, hated anybody, like, anything. It's really comes from a place of either, like, wanting attention, being miserable, or being just, like, completely ignorant. So I, like, hate that people have, like, this, oh, she's a horrible person. I see it all the time, and I get why people say it, but it's just like, oh, that sucks. Because it's like, I've never. I've tried, truly never been. But I know I, like, made that bed. So, like, you know, it is what it is. So I think that's the worst is, like, I never, like, had bad intentions. No. There was never malice. I never wanted to, like, ruin someone's life.

Trisha Paytas (84:11)

Totally. I also think, just even from this interview, I hope it gives people more clarity, too, because I feel like I have seen so much of you online. But I think this interview, like, we really kind of went from start to finish, and it shows your growth of, like, where you came from, like, the decisions you made, like the headspace you were in. And like, of course, I'm not saying it was like, right. But it's like, it, you. People grow and people change and the fact that you're even able to also, like, take accountability and I also love how you're like. But I also get it. And like, I'm not asking, like, I think that's also a really mature way to look at it. Like, there are just some people that will never look at you or me and like, change their opinion. If they hate us, that's okay. But you clearly know, like, you're a good person and you did all of that in a place. Place of whether it was like you said, like, jealousy or insecurity or just being in a bad place. Like, yeah, that happens. And I think it's. Obviously we have a social footprint that some people don't have that. But everyone said dumb in their life. That can be hurtful or taken the wrong way. It doesn't always mean it's coming. Yes. From like a bad intentioned place where you're trying to like, actually hurt someone.

Unknown (85:12)

Yeah, it was never that. And I wasn't even diagnosed with borderline until I was 30, 31 or something. So I was like, I had undiagnosed, like mental. Mental illness for like a really long time too. And again, like, that doesn't, like, excuse it, but there, like, explains more because I was like, wow, I really can't control myself. And then I was like, oh, this is like, why? And now I can, like, work on, like, now I know how to like, control myself and breathe.

Trisha Paytas (85:29)

Do you feel better now when you're going into, like, doing your podcast? Do you feel like you now have a better handle on, like, what you're gonna say and what you're not gonna say? As if maybe in the other days you'd be like, I'm just gonna spew all this.

Unknown (85:42)

And yeah, I definitely just like, take into considerations people feeling and that, like, people will see it and people do, like, get hurt by it. You know what I mean? I know, like, Charlie Demeli just did Jay Shetty's podcast. Like, yeah, people were like, really mean to me. Like, really affected me. And I was like, spiraling and I was like, but, you know, hopefully they change. They have a baby now. I'm like, oh, my God, what You're talking about me? Because I was like. And it was like, I was so, like, I was so aggressive for no reason. And so like, Just you don't think that people will see it and stuff. So now I just really come at a place where I'm just like, I really try to, again, find the silver lining. Try to find, like, the optimisticness and everything, you know, it's of course, fun to, like, gossip and stuff, but I always feel like, again, if it's something like, not nice or someone could hear that would make them feel bad. I'm like, it's better just to, like, you know, gossip with your husband or something.

Trisha Paytas (86:19)

I was about to say, literally, just do it. Not online.

Unknown (86:20)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (86:21)

Every human being gossips. Everyone wants is drama is interesting to us as humans.

Unknown (86:26)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (86:26)

Just don't put it on the Internet. Yeah.

Unknown (86:28)

Especially if it's, like, not nice. If you're, like, being mean. And that's like. I never even privately, I never even, like, make fun of someone's looks. That to me is always, like, weird. I mean, there's so many other things to say about people out there. And I'm like, it's just weird when people, like, attack their looks.

Trisha Paytas (86:38)

Well, that's just like the lowest form of, like, someone coming at someone who's like, you're such, like, that's just such a weak, low blow, like, and then you obviously have to be like, well, what's wrong with that person? That they're going as someone's looks.

Unknown (86:49)

No, for sure. If, like, my husband started, like, making fun of, like, a girl, I'd be like, you're fucking weird. And, like, I feel that way too. I'm like, it's just a weird thing. So it's like, there's so many other things like gossip and make fun of and just, you know, make light of or whatever. But totally.

Trisha Paytas (87:00)

For those of who may not know, Trisha attempted to win a Guinness World Record record for her speed reading skills.

Unknown (87:07)

Oh, my God.

Trisha Paytas (87:08)

I love how the two of us, like, I'm. I have to actively try to talk slower. Like, I can talk so fast. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so happy are you here. Like, I'm sorry. I'm so excited to go. Try that like crazy.

Unknown (87:16)

Yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:17)

So fast. And I'm like, slow down.

Unknown (87:19)

I didn't think that about you. Like, I did not think of you as, like, this, like, really fast talker. Because when I'm having fun, like, put together. Okay.

Trisha Paytas (87:24)

When I'm having fun with someone, which I am right now, like, I feel like we're actually having girl talk where, like, some interviews, I'm like, more doing the interviewing, like, I don't. I don't want to be a part of the conversation. I want it to be about them. But I feel like our vibe is just like, oh, I love, like we're having people.

Unknown (87:36)

Yeah, I hate when it's like, all about me. Like, I love to be like, what about you? Because I need to know where you're coming from.

Trisha Paytas (87:40)

You know what I mean? Like, what's going on over there? Are you judging me?

Unknown (87:43)

Yeah, for sure.

Trisha Paytas (87:44)

No, I feel that. And so. But then because you talk fast, like, my best friend Lauren talks so fast that I feel the same way with you, where I'm like, then I'm just gonna match your energy.

Unknown (87:52)

Oh, yeah.

Trisha Paytas (87:53)

And then when I do talk fast, people are like, like, what the.

Unknown (87:56)

So, But I feel like people will like it. Like, I know I get on comments on my. My podcast, like, my adhd, like, thanks you because they just like, want to keep, like, keep going at that.

Trisha Paytas (88:03)

That's actually such a good point. Like, people can just be like, shut the up. Get to the point. Yeah, we're getting there.

Unknown (88:07)

We're getting.

Trisha Paytas (88:07)

We're moving fast. Okay, before you go. Okay, can you just speed read this little message to the daddy gang? Okay. You can read through it. It's literally a bunch of, like, nonsense. It's just like, happy New Year.

Unknown (88:17)

Oh, okay. I love it.

Trisha Paytas (88:19)

I just thought it would be funny.

Unknown (88:20)

For you to just read fast.

Trisha Paytas (88:22)

I love it.

Unknown (88:23)

Oh, my gosh. Okay. Luckily there's no like, too big words. Sometimes times I get like, the. The Guinness World Records is Hamlet soliloquy. So it was like to be or not to be. That is the question was noble in the mind. It was like this whole, like really long thing and it's like the. I don't even know the words. They're so hard. All right, here we go. Daddy gang. Thank you so much for having me. This has been so much fun. It's 2024. Let's make it the best year ever. It's a year stop giving a about what other people and to own our own confidence. It's the year to try new things in the bedroom and finally have that well deserved organ. The year of the. It's the year of the Giving the gluck like 9000 only trademark if you are also receiving some bomb ass head in return. Take risk. Which stuff out there. Don't get it too involved with drama. It's never that deep. Give people second chances. Apologize when you're wrong. Pop that. Shake that ass. Follow me. Where no accounts YouTube tic tac Instagram. Don't be stingy. Spread my only fans. You're feeling it child. My podcast just stretch. I'd love you guys. Thank you for taking the time to get to know me. I hope this is the last time we chat. Xoxo Trisha paid us. Xoxo Gossip Trisha. I didn't know it was like my outro. I love that I would have put more ump into it. This is so cute Trisha.

Trisha Paytas (89:08)

That was iconic.

Unknown (89:08)

Thanks.

Trisha Paytas (89:09)

Thank you so much for coming on Daddy. This was truly so fun.

Unknown (89:12)

Thank you.

Trisha Paytas (89:13)

Thank you dude.

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