Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story

Summary

Call Her Daddy Podcast Summary Episode Title: Winnie Harlow: My Engagement Story
Host: Alex Cooper
Release Date: March 5, 2025

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1. Introduction

The episode begins with Alex Cooper announcing new exclusive channels on SiriusXM alongside guest Winnie Harlow. Despite initial mentions of advertisements and promotions, the conversation quickly shifts to the heart of the episode: Winnie Harlow's engagement story.

2. Winnie Harlow’s Engagement Story

a. The Surprise Proposal Trip

Winnie shares the enchanting details of her engagement trip with her fiancé, Kyle. The couple traveled to Turks and Caicos for Valentine's Day, where Kyle orchestrated a memorable proposal despite Winnie feeling unwell during the trip.

Winnie Harlow [02:27]: "It's so funny because I'm telling the story, but like, I was the last one to know about it."

She describes how Kyle maintained a romantic atmosphere despite her illness, assuring her that the trip would still be special.

Winnie Harlow [03:37]: "This is gonna be a great trip. Like, absolutely. This is going to be an amazing Valentine's Day."

b. The Proposal Moment

Kyle proposed on the plane, surprising Winnie with a beautifully decorated setting and a heartfelt poem that culminated in a marriage proposal. Winnie recounts her emotional reaction and the seamless way Kyle handled the moment.

Winnie Harlow [09:54]: "So at the end of the poem, it was like, will you be my wife? And literally, like, just went into shock. I just... Yes, yes, yes."

c. The Family Surprise

Upon landing in Turks and Caicos, Winnie discovers that Kyle had also arranged for their families to be present, adding an extra layer of joy to the occasion.

Winnie Harlow [11:07]: "I had no clue as well. So you had no clue that you're about to land?"

The unexpected gathering of family members heightened the emotional significance of the engagement, making it a cherished memory.

Winnie Harlow [11:25]: "Mom, my dad, my sister, his mom. Like, literally everyone was there. I screamed."

3. Relationship History

a. How Winnie and Kyle Met

Winnie details her initial encounter with Kyle during Fashion Week, highlighting the serendipitous nature of their meeting.

Winnie Harlow [18:29]: "I met him at Fashion Week... brief meeting, but something clicked."

b. Navigating a Long-Distance Relationship During the Pandemic

As the pandemic unfolded, Winnie and Kyle maintained their relationship across different cities. Winnie moved from New York to Los Angeles to be with Kyle, reinforcing their commitment to each other despite the challenges posed by long-distance.

Winnie Harlow [25:55]: "We were long distance getting to know each other, but that was cool. And then I went to LA not knowing when I was coming back because it's also, again, pandemic..."

c. Building a Life Together

Their decision to move in together during the pandemic solidified their bond, emphasizing the importance of mutual sacrifice and support.

Winnie Harlow [26:17]: "We both gave up. I always wanted to live in LA."

4. Communication and Prioritizing the Relationship

a. Importance of Open Communication

Winnie underscores that effective communication is the cornerstone of their relationship, enabling them to manage busy schedules and physical distance.

Winnie Harlow [43:02]: "Communication. It's so, like, corny to say, but, like, it literally is that without communication, like, how do you know where that person's going to be?"

b. Couples Therapy and Marriage Counseling

Both Winnie and Kyle engage in couples therapy to strengthen their relationship, highlighting the proactive steps they take to address potential challenges.

Winnie Harlow [45:14]: "I think it's better to create a good foundation than have to go and find a counselor when things are at a bad place."

Winnie Harlow [46:36]: "We're carrying on, saying that to normalize it, because it's so necessary."

5. Dealing with Busy Schedules

Winnie discusses how they navigate their demanding careers by scheduling quality time together, ensuring that their relationship remains a priority despite hectic lives.

Winnie Harlow [50:11]: "I want the house to be nice and clean. I want to like that movie that we talked about last week, like, have it lined up."

6. Engagement Ring and Planning

a. Designing the Perfect Ring

Winnie explains that while she and Kyle communicated their desires, Kyle took the initiative to design a unique engagement ring that exceeded her expectations.

Winnie Harlow [15:05]: "He took, like, three months to design and make it with the jeweler. And it was so funny, like, him talking to me about it and, like, why he did different things."

b. The Thoughtfulness Behind the Ring

Kyle's attention to detail ensured that the ring was not only aesthetically pleasing but also comfortable for Winnie to wear.

Winnie Harlow [16:36]: "It's so, like, well thought out. Attention to detail."

7. Personal Insights and Advice

a. Embracing Individual Interests

Winnie shares personal tidbits, such as her passion for plants, which adds depth to her persona beyond her public image.

Winnie Harlow [59:21]: "I feel like I have such a green thumb. I'm super obsessed with plants."

b. Skincare and Entrepreneurship

Winnie discusses her skincare brand, K Skin, emphasizing the importance of creating products that address specific needs, such as effective SPF solutions for all skin tones.

Winnie Harlow [54:33]: "The most rewarding thing for me about K Skin is realizing that there was something in the market that was missing for me..."

8. Conclusion

The episode wraps up with heartfelt congratulations to Winnie on her engagement. Both Alex and Winnie express their joy and appreciation for each other's stories, leaving listeners inspired by Winnie’s genuine and thoughtful approach to love and partnership.

Winnie Harlow [60:28]: "It was so incredible to sit down with you and get to know you more today."

Alex Cooper [60:46]: "I'm happy that my audience is going to get to know you more, too."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Winnie Harlow [03:37]: "This is gonna be a great trip. Like, absolutely. This is going to be an amazing Valentine's Day."
• Winnie Harlow [09:54]: "So at the end of the poem, it was like, will you be my wife? And literally, like, just went into shock. I just... Yes, yes, yes."
• Winnie Harlow [11:25]: "Mom, my dad, my sister, his mom. Like, literally everyone was there. I screamed."
• Winnie Harlow [43:02]: "Communication. It's so, like, corny to say, but, like, it literally is that without communication, like, how do you know where that person's going to be?"
• Winnie Harlow [45:14]: "I think it's better to create a good foundation than have to go and find a counselor when things are at a bad place."
• Winnie Harlow [59:21]: "I feel like I have such a green thumb. I'm super obsessed with plants."

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Key Takeaways

• Surprise and Planning: Winnie’s engagement story exemplifies the blend of surprise and meticulous planning, making the moment unforgettable.
• Communication is Crucial: Open and honest communication forms the bedrock of a strong relationship, especially amidst busy schedules and long-distance challenges.
• Proactive Relationship Building: Engaging in couples therapy and prioritizing relationship time are proactive steps that strengthen marital bonds.
• Personal Growth and Entrepreneurship: Winnie’s journey highlights the intersection of personal experiences with entrepreneurial endeavors, driving her to create meaningful products.

This episode offers an intimate look into Winnie Harlow’s personal life, providing listeners with valuable insights into building and maintaining a loving and resilient relationship.

Transcript

[Alex Cooper]

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[Winnie Harlow]

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[Winnie Harlow]

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[Winnie Harlow]

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[Winnie Harlow]

Winnie Harlow. Welcome to Call Her Daddy.

Thank you so much. Thank you for having me. Sorry, I'm losing my voice.

No, I just said I'm like a sultry, raspy voice for a podcast.

Hello. Should we do a little Call Her Daddy?

We're here, little asmr. I'm sorry, but we have to get right into it. You just walked in here and I'm blinded by your hand. You just got engaged. Congratulations.

Thank you.

Tell me the story. I need to know, like, how he did it, how it happened. Tell me everything.

It's so funny because I'm telling the story, but like, I was the last one to know about it. Oh, my God. Everyone, like, my whole team was like, did you not realize that we've been voiding you for the past two weeks? I was like, no. I was none the wiser. It was so cute. Kyle told me that he wanted to go to Turks for Valentine's Day and I was like, that is so cute. It's, like, my favorite place other than Jamaica, because I'm Jamaican. But we went. I got super sick. Classic, classic.

I got so romantic.

Super sick. And I feel like everyone was, like, super scared. Like, is this gonna ruin the trip? Kyle was like, don't worry. Once this goes down, she will forget she's completely sick, and rightfully so. He was so right. This whole trip was incredible. I got ready. I took a shower in the morning, and he came into the bathroom, and he's like, but you look good. I was like, thank you. Because this is gonna be a good trip. We're gonna have a great time. He was like, yeah, we're gonna have a great time. This is gonna be a great trip. Oh, my God.

Wait, when you. Because when I remember when I got engaged, I was similar to you where, like, everyone around me was, like, knew every detail to the point where, like, my husband flew my friends out and my family out. Like, everyone was there. And I know.

Beautiful.

It's so beautiful to know that. I don't know. I feel like when you become an adult, there's little moments where you actually feel like you get surprised in life, and you actually are enjoying, like, people coming together and doing something special for you. Because when you're an adult, it's like you're getting the niece and nephews or your kids the presents for the holiday. Like, it's just not as magical in moments. And when you have the people in your life come together to, like, make this fun moment, that's so grand. You're, like, always a part.

Like, I'm sure you are a part of, like, the planning of everything. So it was like, yes. I can't believe you guys pulled this off. And not only pulled it off, but pulled it off as if I was a part of the planning. Everything was so perfect that I would have thought I was a part of.

But you're like, I would have picked that. I would have picked that. Wait, can you give us, like, how he actually physically did it?

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[Winnie Harlow]

Can you give us, like, how he actually physically did it?

So we went. We were getting on the plane to go to the trip, and he opened the door and it was decorated to the nines. And I was like, this is so cute for Valentine's Day. Like, babe, like, stop. I already started watering up. But it was like, okay, stop. Get it together. He wants to read me a poem that he wrote. And so Kyle just got traded from the Wizards to Milwaukee. And we were joking, you know, he's like, I'm going off to work now. You know, I'll see you soon. Can't wait for you to come to Milwaukee. I was like, write me a love letter, my love. My sergeant. Send me a love letter. And it was just a joke, you know? But he took that and wrote me a love letter to propose. It was the cutest ever. I was, like, tearing up, crying, but crying just because it was so cute. I still had no idea.

So first you're like. He decks out this plane. You're on this gorgeous pj. You're like, okay, my man is, like, really spoiling me.

Yes.

Then he's reading you a goddamn love letter. And you're like, I am so in love with you.

Yes.

Like, already you're happy. You're ready to go.

Exactly.

You're like, I'm good.

This is gonna be a great trip. Like, absolutely. This is going to be an amazing Valentine's Day.

But it's around Valentine's Day, so you're already just feeling.

It's the day before.

Okay, so it's like, romantic. You're feeling the vibes. And then how does he pop the question?

So at the end of the poem, the way he wrote it, it was like as if he was going to say, will you be my valentine? And it was, will you be my wife? And literally, like, just went into shock. I just. I was already crying and just flooded with tears at that point. And he pulled out, hit the box, got out on one knee, and I was like, yes. I don't even need to see it. I don't need to see it. Yes, yes, yes.

Okay, first of all, that is so fucking Cute. And were you guys alone, or was your family around you?

We were alone. So apparently he wanted to do it in Turks with the family and everything. And just last minute, he changed his mind and was like, guys, I'm doing it on the plane. And our moms were so mad. Like, tell him he has to do it here. He has to be here. We need to see it. How could he? And he was like, y'all go enjoy the beach. Have a good old time. Y'all are in Turks and Caicos. Have a great time. I'm doing it the way I want. And I love that he did that. It was so beautiful, so romantic. It was just him and I. And then, surprise, everyone was in Turks. I had no clue as well.

Oh, so you had no clue that you're about to land? So you thought you were going to have this, like, weekend getaway with your fiance, and then you land, and it's like, your mom and everyone is there. Oh, that's so special.

Mom, my dad, my sister, his mom. Like, literally everyone was there. I screamed.

Okay. I am now convinced, because I feel like we have a lot of overlapping in our engagement stories.

I like that, too.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Because now I'm, like, really vibing with this. And I'm like, if any man still watches, call her daddy or whatever woman is forcing you to watch the show. Take notes. Because I think the concept of having an alone moment with your partner and having, like, the privacy and intimacy of an alone moment, like, he made the right decision by, you guys got to have that time alone, a couple hours on your own, and then once it sinks in, then you want to be with the people you love most. That is, like, the perfect combination. Perfect, because then I'm sure, like, how I felt in that moment. I'd love to hear how you felt on the plane ride was like, Matt did it at our house. And it was so romantic. And I was in such shock that I kept being like, I've got to call my mom. I've got to call my mom and dad. And he was like, we'll call them in a minute. Let's have some champagne, babe. Like, And I was like, you're right. Okay. Right? You're like, I need to tell my parents. And then I'm like, did you ask my parents? And he was like, yes. Like, no, no, no, I promise. Like, I promise they said yes. And, like, I'm going through all this, so he's trying to calm me down. So in hindsight, I'm like, poor Matt is like, they're already fucking waiting for you. Like, just enjoy the moment alone with me. But it then allowed me to, like, have an intimate kiss, like, hug each other, talk about it, ask him the detailed questions of how he came up with this, and give him kind of, like, the credit he deserves.

100.

And then let the family go.

How much pressure? Like, it's so much pressure. I. I big them up, like, incredible. He did such a good job. Funny enough. Like, even my nails, my nail tech is actually from la, and I used to live here, and I moved to D.C. with him, and I've been, like, missing my nail tech because, like, I mean, of course we love our nail ticks. And he messaged me my nail tech to be like, hey, I have family in dc. My cousin's birthday is tomorrow, so I'm flying out there. Do you need your nails and, like, lashes done? I was like, oh, babe, guess what? Loyola is coming out here.

Just a coincidence.

Such an amazing coincident, you know, I've been missing him. And he was like, that's. Why is he out here? I was like, apparently, he has family. I don't know. We.

And Kyle actually set the whole thing up. No. Okay, that's actually. I'm going to hide your man up for a second. Yeah, babe, that is next level shit to be like, I'm going to think about my girl's nails to the point where I am going to fly. She out her nail tech, the trusted person that does her nails, so she feels so gorgeous. Okay, okay, Kyle. Well, now you're just, like, making everyone look bad.

Nuts.

Holy, that's so nice. And then you look down, you're like, okay.

So I'm in the car on the way to the plane, and he was like, you were so annoying in the car. It was hilarious. I just kept looking. So he gave me this bracelet for Valentine's Day, so I'm like, none the wiser. Like, I already got my Valentine's Day gift the day before. Like, we're on our way to our trip, and I'm, like, looking at my bracelet and my hands and my nails, and I'm like, babe, like, the hand pics, like, the beach, like, it's gonna be so nice in his head. And he's like, yeah, it is.

He's like, yeah, it is. No even know we. Okay, so I want to hear, though, about the ring, because I feel like this is just, like, such fun girl stuff that, like, some people grow up wanting it, some people don't, but when it happens, it's so beautiful and it's such a moment that you, like, can cherish forever. The ring is. It's so stunning, there's not words. But can you tell us, like, did you talk about engagement? And if you did, did you give him ideas of what you wanted as a ring, or is this, like, full surprise? He did this on his own.

So we've been talking about engagement for the past year, but just like. Like, we started doing, like, marriage counseling and, you know, just talking about our future and, like, how many kids we want, all that type of stuff. Like, where would you want to get married? Like, just communicating, you know? Like, I think it's so important to be able to learn good communication before you even take that step. And so, you know, I had sent him, like, some rings that I had been saving for years. Like, I look back on my phone, it's like, 2015. I have, like, pictures of rings that, like, now my idea of what I wanted to has evolved. But just the idea of it being, like, classic and fairy tale, like, was my, you know, thought process on it. And I feel like he executed incredibly. Like, this looks nothing like anything that I've ever shown him. But that was. I also try to make that very clear. Like, this is not. I'm showing you this because I want this ring. I want whatever you create. Because he's also super creative.

Okay. That is, like, I agree. I think, listen, there's gonna be girls out there where it's like, for the love of God, do not let your man pick the ring if your life depends on it, because he can't even, like, put two of the same colored socks on in the morning. He's gonna pick a horrible ring. And I love the girls that are like, so this is it. Yeah, it's on hold over there.

Yeah.

And then I do appreciate also, like, the other side of it where, like, you're saying, like, you had a vision lightly, but you let him run with it.

100.

It's so stunning.

He took, like, three months to design and make it with the jeweler. And it was so funny, like, him talking to me about it and, like, why he did different things. Like, he was like, I thought about doing, like, diamonds around it, but I thought it won't be comfortable for her to wear. And I was, like, hitting my leg. I was like, yeah, you're so right. Like, I don't even feel anything. You're so, like, all the other rings, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Yeah.

Right? I could feel the same way.

Yeah. Hurt somebody, like, shaking their hand or Something. It's so, like, well thought out.

Attention to detail.

Exactly.

And then for the rest of the weekend in Turks, like, what would you say with your. Your family and your friends and now your fiance? Like, what was your favorite moment of the, like, weekend proposal moments?

Like, after the proposal.

Cause I was like, you're like that. But then once you got there with.

Your family, I think the surprise that everyone was there.

Did you sob?

Sob? I fell to my knees.

Like, when did you know they were there?

We arrived, and he was just showing me, like, it was all decorated and, like, we had flowers and pictures pinned up of us over the years. It was so beautiful. And we walked out to, like, the area, and the DJ just dropped music, and everyone was like, surprise. It was incredible, those moments where you're.

Like, no, I thought that this was enough. And now this, like, you've gotta be.

Hearing and more and more. And I could. Like, each moment was such a surprise. And I was so happy that, like, I'm not that type of person who wants to figure it out.

Yeah.

So I'm so happy. I was, like, none the wiser to anything.

It's so beautiful. And I love engagement stories. But I want to rewind because from what I've read, Kyle had to shoot his shot twice with you. Like, you would. At one point, you wouldn't even give this man the time of day. I'm like, this is so lovely. I'm like, winnie, this is pure love.

Now start from the beginning.

Yeah.

You.

You basically ghosted this man. What happened? What was going on?

No, so I. I met him. I actually originally met him at Fashion Week.

Okay.

Briefly. I was entering a party and he was leaving the party, and it was these, like, I think, like, two or three tall guys who were leaving a fashion party. It was like Harper's Bazaar icons or something.

Yeah.

And he was like, yo, so where's the after party? And I didn't really look at them, so I was like, oh, no. And I looked. I was like, well, they're tall. He's kind of cute, but whatever, you know, like, we're walking to the party and I turned back and I was like, DM me. Because, like, he must know who I am if he's like, you know, trying to see where I'm going. Right. So I was like, oh, DM me. And then I guess he DM'd me, but I never seen it. You know how, like, Instagram's kind of, like, tricky? Like, they'll put it into, like, another.

Yeah, you gotta work for that. Shit.

So I just didn't see it and I didn't.

Do you know what he said?

I don't actually.

Okay, we need to go. We need to fucking scroll back up at some point.

Yeah. I don't remember what he said, but a year later, during the pandemic, I was living in New York and he lived in la. He was playing for the Lakers, and I just signed to Puma as an ambassador, and he was signed to Puma at the time. So he posted me to say congratulations on, like, me getting my Puma. Like, welcome to the Puma family.

Like, on his story.

On his story.

Oh, my. That's kind of, like, flirty, right?

Right. Cute. But I didn't see it as well.

Winnie, you're like, I am never on my phone. Or I just was not meant for a little bit to see this man.

You know what? It makes it even sweeter because it's like, it was meant to be truly.

It was meant to be swerving this man left and right and finally.

But when I saw it, it was 24 hours after, you know, the story.

Is gone, which is mentioned. And you're like, what was that?

I was sick. I was like, I don't even know what he posted. Like, was it cute? Like, right.

Like, this man that I don't really know. Like, he just posted me on his story. And it's not like. And it's not like, this is not something that's gonna be seen by people. You both have followings where it's like.

What is this, man? What was that? Right? Okay, so I DM'd him. And I was like, hey, that. What was that? And he was like, oh, I was just congratulating you on, like, your Puma deal. I was like, oh, that's so sweet. Thank you. Appreciate it.

[Alex Cooper]

Sweet.

[Winnie Harlow]

And obviously, in the pandemic, we have nothing to do. So I was like, cool. Like, so what have you been up to in the pandemic? You know, whatever. Small talk. And we were messaging back and forth for a bit, but it was like, I would message, and then, like, five hours would pass and I wouldn't realize that he responded. And then I would see it. And it was just like three days of, like, small talk. And I was like, hey, you know what? I'm not really super good at DMs. Like, here's my number. Text me. And yeah. Then we texted for, like, a few days, and then he started FaceTiming me. And he was like, super sweet. He would, like, have an interview to do, you know, like, Everybody was doing that whole, like, zoom interview stuff.

Yes.

And he had an interview to do. He was like, hey, I have, like, some work to do. I'll call you back in an hour. And I was like, yeah, okay, cool. Like, you call me back in an hour. An hour Literally called me back and I was like, a man of his word.

We love this.

We love this. Wow.

And so it just naturally progressed. That's like, I. Girl, we have, like, this I. We're so in simpatico with this. I'm like, I met my man, like, literally online on zoom.

What did you mean?

FaceTime? So we had, like, a random meeting that my agent was having me meet, like, with, like, TV and movie producers just to see if, like, I would ever want to do something in that space. And he was like, my last zoom of the day. And I always joke to him because I had these, like, men that were like, 60, right? There's anything wrong with you? Yeah, but they were like, 16. I'm like in my hoodie. I'm, like, looking not that cute. And then the last zoom of the day, he was late. So I, like, googled him. And I was like, wait, he's young and hot. What the hell? I'm, like, putting my lip liner, I'm over lining my lips, I'm pushing my tits up. I get on the zoom, I'm like, hello. And he was just so cute and charming, but also, like, not overly like, oh, my God, I want to be in business with the Colorado girl. So I kind of loved it that he wasn't giving me too much of the time of day. And then we ended up talking, and then I flew to L. A. And met him.

And when was this?

This was in 2020. You lived in New York, right?

Yeah.

And Kyle lived in L. A? Yeah, I lived in New York and Matt lived in L. A. And we met in the pandemic. No. And then what is the synergy? No, it's weird, I'm telling you.

[Alex Cooper]

That's nice.

[Winnie Harlow]

I was so excited to talk to you today because then seeing your engagement, I was like, girl, we have too much in common right now. Can I ask you, though, like, when you started to talk to Kyle, were you looking for a relationship? Like, when was your last relationship prior to him?

Probably, like two years prior. And I wasn't looking for a relationship, but, like, I think it was just. I like to. I like to, like, talk to someone who's serious, you know? So I do have that in mind. Like, I did have that in mind when I was like, you know, talking to people, but it was just, you know, friendly conversation at first and, like, good conversation then too, which was beautiful. And it was a pandemic, so we had so much time to get to know each other.

[Alex Cooper]

Yeah.

[Winnie Harlow]

And I feel like that was such a blessing as well.

Were you at all, like, you're an athlete. I don't know about athletes. Like, were you at all nervous? Because I feel like some girls are like, you go in and you're like, oh, here we go again. And he seems, obviously he's amazing, but, like, did you have any preconceived notions?

I. I feel like I did, like, once upon a time when I was like, in my early 20s. Like, I would never date an athlete, like, too much. But when it did happen, it was kind of like, not really a thought. It was like, cool. You know what? Like, it's a good conversation. And even if we just become friends, like, that's cool too. You know, it's cute.

Ye talk to me about the pros and cons of being in a long distance relationship at first because I have so many women write into me being like, what do I do? And, like, what was your experience with it? Did you ever get annoyed? Was it good because it was Covid that you were like, fine with it?

Yeah, I mean, I think because I didn't know him, it was cool. But we talked for like a month straight and it got to the point where, like, we were like, falling asleep on the phone and, like, waking up on the phone. And I remember the first time I like, was like, okay, cool, we want to FaceTime for a minute. Like, I just, I need to take off my makeup.

Like, that is like, I put my.

Phone down, I was like, washing my face and he was just right there on the phone. I was like, I love this too much. Like, I'm in my house, I can't go nowhere. Like, I need to unglam. And from then we would just be like, on the phone non stop. And I feel like we talked for a month straight.

Okay.

And then he was like, you gotta come to la.

Yeah.

So we were long distance getting to know each other, but that was cool. And then I went to LA not knowing when I was coming back because it's also, again, pandemic, so there's nothing for us to do. And it was kind of like, I would say, like, he's like Superman. He rescued me from the pandemic because I was by myself.

So did you end up moving in the pandemic?

I did.

Okay, so We're.

But you know what? The thing is, we both gave up. I always wanted to live in la.

Interesting.

So right before the pandemic, I was already looking at houses.

Oh, okay. So that was in your future?

Yeah, it wasn't my future, but it got like, cut because the pandemic hit. I go back home and then it was kind of like, what do I do? Do I like, go home to Toronto and stay with my family? Do I like, stay here?

Okay, you need to talk to me, though. About the weird part of social media is. Yes. You saw this man one time coming out of a club quickly and like, barely. You just notice his height. You're not like really focused on him. You meet him in person basically for the first time. And even though you guys have been talking, like.

Yeah.

Were you nervous at all?

Like, physically nervous? Like, you've never.

I was, man.

Literally, like, my stomach hurts when I got noticed. I was like, actually literally bricks. Like, I was so nervous. And then he came out to, like, help with my luggage and stuff and he had no shirt on. It was like, hot in la. And I was like, I'm already nervous. No, please. Oh, my days, please.

Because you're like. I thought a lot about that. Of like, when you're telling this story, I'm like, as much as you're sharing, which is a weird, beautiful thing. I do think when people give people of like meeting online and I wish I met them romantically in a bar and whatever, it's like there is something so gorgeous I felt with my husband of. We did the same thing where we're like FaceTiming everything. We're like, covet couples where it's like, you're FaceTiming every night you're talking. We were getting so much deeper than maybe we would have been if we were just like out for drinks in LA and having like one hour dinners.

And everything happens for a reason too.

Right? But then you're like, now let's see if we physically connect. And I like, you had the feeling.

Yeah.

But still, do you remember the first time that you were like, oh, my God, okay, like, we're gonna like kiss and make out. Like, was it immediate or did you guys wait to like, physically connect?

It was immediate. It was. It was definitely immediate. But I feel like love. We. I remember we would like play like 21 questions and stuff, like, get to know each other on the phone. And then it felt like we were running out of questions, like how long we were staying on the phone. So I started like ordering games that were like 21 questions for, like, new questions, which was so much fun too, because I was like, I would have never thought about this, right? But we felt like we knew each other so well by that point, like, we literally were on the phone like 12 hours straight, like, every day. No hang ups. We would, like, watch movies and like, be like, okay, on the count of three, press play. One, two, three. Is it aligned? Perfect. Okay, cool.

That is adorable.

Foreign.

[Alex Cooper]

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[Winnie Harlow]

What is your ideal night out? Like, tell me about your social life. Like if you have your choice and you're going out somewhere, like, what are you doing? What are you eating? What's your vibe?

I like going to restaurants, but I feel like I'm. I'm such a like movie like inside. Like let's like just be in like chill lounge clothes and like watch a movie and like.

Yeah, vibe. Do you drink?

Yeah.

What's your go to drink? Cocktail?

Yeah, I like mix something if I'm just getting something on the menu. I love a lychee martini with extra lychees. I like martini love. I like espresso martini.

I like on my espresso martini. Like, it's so good.

I like sweet drinks.

Yeah. Okay.

But I do like like a dirty martini as well, oddly. Like, I love olives.

Okay. When you're drunk, are you the life of the party? Are you the person like Irish exiting? Or are you the drunk crier? Or like, who are you in your friend group?

I'm like life of the party and like talker. Like, love. I love to communicate. It's like all the inhibitions are down. It's like I love you so much. Like, you don't understand. Like, I feel like you're baddest. Like, period.

I feel like I'd run into you in a bathroom at a party in LA and we would be doing this but like more annoying. Be like, no winning.

No. But you don't. No, you don't get it.

But you're so gorgeous. No. That's so girl coded. You're just like, shut up. And we're like so fun. That's literally. Literally. Matt is always like, what? But what could you guys have been talking about? And I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean? There's so much to dis. Discuss. Oh my God. You get it. Okay. You're one of the most famous supermodels in the world. So I want to play a quick game, just, like, catch your vibe.

Let's do it.

I'm going to give you a crazy modeling scenario, and you're going to tell me if you would book it or you would back out of the gig.

Okay.

Pose in a live snake pit.

How many snakes?

Oh, I see me. I'd be like, I wouldn't. Don't even. So you're down.

Yeah.

What's the craziest, like, modeling thing you've done for, Like, I'm really scared of snakes.

Like, I did for Halloween one year, so a lot of fans would tell me that I remind them of Chitara. I don't know if you know that cartoon. So I just leaned into it. I did it for Halloween, but I had, like, a whole jungle set up. So I got, like, snakes to come. And, like, I was holding the snakes. There was this big. What's like, the yellow snake?

Python.

It's a python, right?

Something. Yeah, something like that. Yeah.

I was like, it's either a python or a bow construction.

I don't know, Something. But you did one of those.

I had the big, like, yellow Britney Spears snake. I had a few little ones.

Okay, so you're down for this. This is good to know.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anything for the shot, honestly, so I respect it. Yeah.

Would you do a shoot with an ex boyfriend as she looks down at her.

Me and my man. My man, you know? No, I feel like also everything is communication, too. So, like, now if it was, like, a Dior campaign, I don't have any control and whatever. It's just like, babe, this is a situation. Whatever. I feel like we're also very understanding, too, and that's a part of our careers, you know, like, point. You may come across someone, whatever. As long as, like, we're aware, you know? Yes.

You're not being, like, shady and not talking about it. If it's, like, up front and it's gonna really help your career, I agree.

For sure.

Boom.

Yeah.

Get your nipples pierced for the shoot.

I don't know. I've. I actually always wanted my nipples pierced.

Okay.

But, like, the pain, like, I feel like those are one of the piercings that don't heal very quickly.

I have, so. I love girls that do it, but I could never do that.

Yeah.

I am such a little with pain. I would be like, I. I would. I couldn't. I just could never.

I love the aesthetic, though.

Oh, my God. Like, a little, like, white T shirt. And you see I'm like, girl, you're crushing.

I love the aesthetic.

I couldn't.

But I don't know. I feel like also, I mean, shoot, if I was doing it for the shoot, I could take it out and it would heal. I don't know. I don't know about that one.

Okay, do a month long shoot somewhere like in Antarctica or something crazy. But you have to be gone for a month.

Antarctica now, like, can we change it to, like, Barbados? Yeah. Like, I would, though. I would, like, if there was, like, a film that, like, I was, like, super into and I got the role. Okay. Have to.

That's good to know. Yeah. Okay. You were once on America's Next Top Model. Can you describe your experience in three words?

I would say unique, surprising, and is this one word? Stepping stone.

Oh, that's good. That's a good word. Have you ever watched your season back?

Long time ago.

Okay.

Long time ago. Because it was like 10 years, like.

Damn near a decade ago since America's Next Top Model ended. Obviously, so many people have come out and just been like, they didn't have the best experience. And some people were like, this was a traumatic experience for me. Like, what was your take in your experience?

I would say I love that every job that I've had in my career has led me to the point that I'm at now. And so I wouldn't change anything in my life in general because I'm so happy. And nothing, anything that could have changed would not have led me here.

It's a great point. No, I feel like that's, like, the weirdest part of life is, like, I look back at certain things people always ask me about. Like, my first job that I had or an experience that I had that, like, maybe even if it was, like, considered in people's mind, like, more negative in the public eye. Like, I feel like I have now grown so much where I have, I actually can genuinely say I have perspective. And when you're so close to something, you don't. And so even if in the moment you could say this is amazing or negative or whatever, then once you get like 10 years down the line, even five years down the line, you're like, whoa, I am so grateful for what that taught me. Because then, like, what else are we gonna do? Like, whatever it is, like, the energy then, like, like festers in a capacity where you don't.

It's the energy that you put into it as well. Totally. And I feel like anything that happens, like, I was 18 when I was on the show.

That's what I was gonna say. You're 18, then you're done the show, like, 19. Like, did you ever struggle with confidence, like, as a whole, as a teenager, obviously, going on that type of show? I think people think, like, these are the most beautiful women in the world. Like, oh, my gosh, to be a model, you must have such confidence. Like, what were you going through?

I feel like you can have an off day any day. Like, it doesn't matter how old you are, how young you are. Like, sometimes I might be breaking out or, you know, whatever the case is. And, like, I'm like, okay, cool. Like, this is a for now thing. Yeah, like, but you're still that girl. Don't worry about it.

That's such a good point of, like, I look back when I was in high school, let's say, compared to now, even, like, even using acne as an example. Struggled with acne so much in high school and was like, this is the end of the world. Now when I'm, like, struggling with acne, I'm like, I don't care anymore. But again, I think that's fair to say, because you're just at a different stage in your life where you know how to handle things better.

I think when you're younger, too, you focus so much on other people's opinions, you know? And I think once I learned that and once I even acknowledged that a lot of my insecurities were coming from the opinions of other people, I was like, why do I actually care about what you think about me? Like, I care about what I think about me. And, like, I care if I think I'm a good person, if I'm a beautiful person, all those things, that's what really matters. So I think that's, like, when people ask me about, like, how are you so confident? It's like, because I focus on my opinion of myself. And that's not to say, like, if someone says something, it can't be hurtful. Yeah. But it's like, the ability to let it roll off your back sometimes. You know, it's not. Nobody's perfect, for sure. But the ability to let it roll off your back. Your back and let your own opinion stand foremost is. That's the key, I feel, period.

Can we talk about your early dating life? What was your first romantic relationship? Like?

My first ever.

Yeah.

Was in, like, elementary school.

Okay, but, like, your first fart. Yeah. No. Him?

No, no.

Like, so cute, so adorable. But the first one that you were like, oh, I'm, like, in love. And this is, like, a real thing.

I feel like I don't see nobody. Like, I don't see nobody.

Really?

Yes. I don't see nobody. And also, I feel like being in such a serious relationship, it also allows you to, like, realize when you're so young and you feel like, oh, my God, heartbreak. I'm so in love. Like, you don't even know what love is.

What has set your relationship up, like, with Kyle, like, apart from the previous relationships you've had? Because I do want to say I agree with you that, like, in the moment and it doesn't take away from anyone experiencing right now, but, like, when you feel so, like, lost and why doesn't he do this or that? Like, you're not in the right relationship, and it's so hard to see it. But then once you do find the right one, you're like, if he wanted to, he would.

Like, if he wanted to, he would.

And it's like. Then you, like, almost laugh at yourself. But it takes finding the right example to then be like, oh, my God, what was I thinking?

It's all an experience, you know? Like, it's all a life experience. And it's also helping to teach you what you are looking for. Because unless you, you know, have experiences, you won't know.

Were you always when you were dating, like, very straight up, or were you ever a little, like, coy, playing games?

Like, I feel like I've always been straight up, but I've also always been, like, a little, like, nervous.

Yes. That's fair. What is the biggest red flag you've ever ignored?

Ooh, the biggest red flag I've ever ignored is my mom saying, no.

Such a good one. Yeah.

No, I don't see it. Like, let me be letting. Mama. You right. You right.

It's so hard when you're in it when your mom says that, because you're like, no. Like, you just don't get it. Like, you don't. You don't understand him. Mom.

Hey, girl. No, listen to your mom. Listen to your mom.

So true. But, like, it's so hard in that moment because you're trying to express your individuality. And a lot of times when we have our first young relationships, you're trying to separate yourself from when your parents were like, you're not allowed to go out or you're not. So it's like, you're like, I want to make my own decisions independent of you. But then at some point, you go back and you're like, wait, mom, why didn't you tell Me. She's like, why don't you talk? I've been telling you for a year, Alex, that man is a walking red flag. And I'm like, really? You said that? I don't remember that. No, that is so. Yeah.

What you said that.

That's so humbling. When they just stare at you and you're like, it's over. And they're like, finally. And you're like, mom, you and Kyle both have such intense careers. Can you talk about how you guys prioritize making time together? Because it's such a simple concept, but it is very hard when you have crazy schedules. Like, how do you make it work?

Communication. It's so, like, corny to say, but, like, it literally is that without communication, like, how do you know where that person's going to be? Like, he's on my schedule. I'm on his schedule. But then also, it's helpful that the NBA has a schedule that is, you know, there. So I'll plan things, like, around his schedule sometimes, and then he'll check my schedule to be like, okay, cool. I actually see that I'm playing here and you're going to be there for work. So it like. Like, it's all communication.

And I think, like, I said that the other day, someone said something about, like, how do. Like, with Matt. And I'm like, we communicate. And I'm like, oh, my God, you're right. Like, it sounds so simple. But again, when I look back at previous partners that I had, it so isn't simple. Because some people make an education is hard, right?

Yeah.

And it sounds easy, but, like, everyone listening, you've been there.

It's not easy, though. It's definitely not easy. It's the key. But it's hard, especially getting to know someone. And then, like, people have their own feelings about different things. Like, oh, like, their own traumas from the past. Like, so many different things. Like, everybody's so different.

But you know what I'm, like, thinking about when we're talking, too, which is like, the pros of how our relationship started with the men that we're with is like, Matt and I, and it seems like you and Kyle did this where it was like, the amount of conversations we had on FaceTime, where we naturally wouldn't have probably been talking that long and extensively had we been in the same area, because it would be like, oh, our friends are all going to the dinner, or we're all going out tonight and, oh, we're going to sleep, or we're watching the movie. Like, the amount of conversations we've had, it kind of just became this, like, prerequisite in our relationship that set us up for, like, we don't how to not communicate. Like, that is literally what we started our relationship off of.

So I think that's so, so much different, though. Like, I agree with that, but I think it's different when it becomes like, you guys are together. And then also, like, he ended up getting traded to Washington. And so I was still in LA when he was in Washington at first. And like, even, like, our lives change so much too. And so our communication has to evolve.

[Alex Cooper]

That's a good point.

[Winnie Harlow]

And so, like, that is even a part of, like, why I wanted to go to marriage counseling. Because I think. I think it's better to create a good foundation than have to go and find a counselor when things are at a bad place. You know, Like, I want to be able to have the tools to work through all the obstacles that are going to come in life. Like, yeah, whatever relationship, whether it's with your parents, with your friends, there's always going to be obstacles in life. But being able to have those tools of how to navigate and even understand each other deeper, totally, you know, you.

Saying this also, Winnie, I appreciate, because I was talking about this with my friend, she had gone into couples therapy, and she was like, why do I feel this, like, weird shame around admitting that I'm in couples therapy? And I was like, but yet it's so.

I love it. I say to everyone, I love it. I like it.

I'm in marriage counseling. Love it.

And I think it's also like, that stigma, too, is why I like talking about it, because I enjoy it so much. Yeah, I'm like. Like, I hate that nobody talks about it because it's so necessary. Like, you want to understand your partner, you want to be able to communicate with your partner. And sometimes it is difficult. But learning the tools is like the first step.

And I think you normalizing, like, you can be going to therapy to even better yourself. It's not always because something's wrong in a crisis mode. It's the same thing when you're in therapy for yourself. Like, I've gotten to the point where when I'm talking to my therapist, I'm like, like, I don't really have much going on today, but, like, I'm happy. Like, let's dive into, like, other stuff that, like, maybe I can work on. That's not at the forefront of my brain. It's like, we can always evolve. We can always get Better. But when people think about couples therapy, they're like, what's wrong? And you're like, nothing. We're literally just trying to be as solid as we can be as we enter these next stages of life together.

Sure.

I love that conversation. Just like normalizing it.

Yeah.

So, daddy gang, if you're going to couples therapy, don't let people judge you.

Kudos to you.

Okay, have you guys ever gone through a lull, like, physically, because of your schedules? And how do you guys come back together and, like, make time to physically connect and be present with each other?

Foreign.

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[Winnie Harlow]

Have you guys ever gone through a lull, like, physically because of your schedules? And how do you guys come back together and, like, make time to physically connect and be present with each other?

I think we actually, like, just recently had that conversation. Like sometimes I'll be traveling and he'll be working and I'll come back and he's in work mode, you know, and that was one of the things that we learned through couples therapy is like, when, say he leaves and comes back or I leave and come back, like, making those moments and times to like, reconnect whenever we come back together is so important because, like, I could come back from like a two week trip and then he's like in his schedule, like, focused, you know, like, he works, it works out. At a certain time, he wakes up, he wakes up at a certain time, he goes to the arena, all that stuff. He's like locked and loaded. And then it's like, hey, I'm back. You know, like. But making that important, you know, when he comes back home, it's like super important. Like, I want the house to be nice and clean. I want to like that movie that we talked about last week, like, have it lined up. You know, like all those things that just kind of bring that connection back together is so important.

It's so hard to. Like, every time someone asks me, I'm like, I would be lying if I said. And I think again, this is why this conversation is so healthy to have of like, I would be lying if I said that. Matt and I, throughout our relationship have not had to have multiple check ins. Being like, we need to always will. We need to reconnect. Always.

You always will.

But if you don't. And I think if anything, I would ask people that are in relationships to check in with yourself to be like, when is the last time you and your partner were like. Like, hey, we need to. Either one, we need. We need to make sure we have more quality time. We need to. Two, we need to make sure we're more physical. Like we haven't connected. Whatever it is for your personal relationship, resetting in moments because we get so busy and like, we don't even have kids yet.

Yeah.

And we're both working, so I'm like, I don't know. So I just think it's normal to say. And again, I think because of social media, people are like, everything is perfect. And it's like, yeah, I love Matt, but.

But.

And we're married and he's the best thing is perfect. But like, we gotta make sure that we're on the same.

Except for our engagements.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are perfect. Perfect.

But nothing, nothing in life is perfect.

Okay, we're gonna play a game. I'm gonna list some scenarios and you're gonna tell me if it's a turn off or a turn on. He's heavy on the pda.

If he knows how to kiss. Turn on.

Okay. He makes a special playlist for sex.

Absolutely. Turn on. Love that love.

He gives you a hickey.

Where.

I was gonna say, it depends.

Where.

I don't need no shit on my neck. But like, right. You know. Right. Okay. He waits for you to initiate sex.

It depends. Like, you know, we could take turns.

I agree. I think if it's like he's always waiting. It's like the same thing where it's like, you need to reciprocate. But I think it's in Moments. It's hot if. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He. He sends you nudes while you're at work.

At work is. Is a bit much, but, like, late at night. Cute.

Cute.

I need to lock in.

I agree.

I need to lock in.

I agree. Agree. He wants to have phone sex.

Hey, she want deity. Okay, wait.

Phone sex or FaceTime sex?

What? She want deity. Call her daddy.

I fucking love you. I'm dead. Okay. He doesn't manscape. Oh, you're, like, down. I love that. Okay. He's very vocal during sex. Sex.

Love. Love, love.

I don't need a mute ass. Like, love. Pipe it up.

Pipe it up. Yeah. Love.

Okay. He loves sex with the lights on.

I mean, it's not what I prefer.

But I like a vibe. Like, I am not trying to. When it's like, this light. Well, actually, I guess this lighting would be, like, hot. This is cute. But there's cameras and everything.

You're like, candles, dolls, or like.

Like, I don't want it to be pitch black where you're like, I. You can't see me and I can't see you. Because that's what.

Sometimes that's fun too, though, because, like.

Oh, I agree.

I feel like your other senses are, like, more heightened.

That is such a good point, because I never do that. But I forget what Matt and I were doing. But there was a reason. It was pitch black, and we're like, it's kind of hot. Yeah, But I don't want that every time, right? And again, if it's bright. Balance, Balance, balance, balance. Like, natural daylight. Kind of hot. But it's like, yeah, okay. Balance. He lasts for an hour before he comes.

I feel like every experience is different.

So I think an hour for me, I'd be like, babe, come on.

Every. Every experience is different.

When he's like, actually, I'm down for four hours and count me the. He wants to watch porn together.

Hot.

So hot. Yeah, very hot. Okay, let's talk about your brand, K Skin. Can you talk to me? Like, I know that you started it after getting a very bad sunburn on a job, but, like, what has been the most rewarding part of starting your own brand?

The most rewarding thing for me about K Skin is realizing that there was something in the market that was missing for me and knowing that if it's missing for me, it has to be missing for a lot of people. And finding the fix for that problem and then seeing people enjoy it. That, like, for me, SPF has always been so important in my life. I have Vitiligo, which means that I don't have melanin in certain areas of my skin. And so I don't even tan here. I just will burn. And so SPF has always been super. Like, I've been religious with wearing sunscreen, but I hated wearing it. It was never a fun experience. Like, left a white cast on my white skin or my brown skin was sticky. Just didn't look good. And I remember that shoot that I burnt. I went without SPF because no one on set wanted me to put it on because it wasn't looking good on camera. And I was like, that shouldn't be a thing. Like, you shouldn't forego something that is, like, healthy, like, for your safety, just because it doesn't look good. So I want to fix that problem and make SPF that you wanted to wear that looked good on all skin tones. Like, remember when I rub something into my skin, it got to work on both skin tones. So, like, gotta work for white people, gotta work for black people. I need it to work on all skin tones, types, conditions.

I mean, I feel like that's when people feel like the best. Best brands that people create are when you're actually filling something that, like, you personally need. Like, I feel like it's obvious when you see people in the market where it's like, that was just because someone told them to do it, rather than it's like, oh, this is something you're living and breathing and you needed. And you can feel that through your brand, which is incredible.

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Of course. What is your best skin care tip that you can share with the girlies watching?

I would say never skip your spf.

Yeah.

Yep. I think that's so important.

Better.

Like, don't worry, I'm. I'm stalk you up.

Okay. Do you put it on? No, I. I know. I just try not to go outside.

But still.

But still. Okay, I get. You know, I saw someone recently post on Tik Tok, and they were like, what step are we putting it on if you're doing a full beat? Okay, tell me.

Got you.

Tell me.

You're gonna do your skincare.

Okay.

And then you're going to do your primer.

Okay.

And then you're gonna do your spf. SPF is the last step in your skincare routine before you do your makeup.

So we're doing primer. And then also, I don't use primer.

Cause I love the feel of my spf. Especially, like, depending on what finish I want, if I want, like, A dewy beat I'm gonna go for. I'll glow because she get like, that's the islands in a bottle.

Yeah, yeah.

She gives that good, glowy skin.

That's what I like. Yeah, right.

But if you're a matte girly and you want, like, that full beat, I would go for the mineral drops from K skin because that gives, like, a more natural skin, like, feel and leaves that, like, the makeup's gonna grip, you know?

This is the information we needed. Okay.

So, yeah, all your skincare, whatever serums, all that, and usually you should actually use more of your serum at night, but I like to really, like, layer my products, and then I will finish my skincare, let that sink in, do my spf, let that sink in.

And then that's, like, the biggest step that's changed my life recently is like, I used to be like, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Then I'm like, what's happening? It's like, I now, like, will do my first primary skin care, and then I go and get my coffee. Then I come back.

Now it's simmer in the spirit, you.

Know, it needs to, like, sink in.

Absolutely.

And then you. Okay, this is. See, we needed you.

I got you, girl.

Yeah. Yeah, this is good. You got rejected at one point from a job at Sephora, and now K Skin is literally sold there. What full circle does that mean to you when you found out that your product would be in Sephora?

It was actually so nuts to me because I'm such a skincare junkie. Like, that was, like, a dream job at the time. Like, I was like, like, wait, I'm gonna get a discount. Like, what you mean? Like, I really want that job, and I wanted to learn more about, like, skincare and makeup too, at that time. So I really did want that job. But, you know, I didn't get it. It is what it is. Yeah. To see it on the shelves then. And I'm such a fan of Sephora as well. Like, it's the skincare junkie. I mean, oh, my God, Left like, I am.

What girl isn't like, Sephora? Sephora. Sephora.

Absolutely.

Love.

So amazing. That was a dream come true. And Sephora has been such an incredible partner to work with as well.

Last question. What do you wish more people knew about you?

I feel like I have such a green thumb. I'm so, like, fascinated with plants. I don't know if that's not really, like, something that I want people to know about me, but, like, it's an interesting, like, thing. That I'm super obsessed with. And I'm like, I should talk about this more.

Like, like, I like plants.

Every time I, like, meet someone or, like, become friends with someone, and I realize, like, they're, like, super obsessed with plants. It becomes a thing. Like, I have plant apps. Like, I have to have. I don't even water my plants. Like, once a week. I water them based off of, like, I stick my finger in, I'll feel the soil. Like, I have my gauges.

Oh, you're in touch.

I'm in it. Like, I love plants. I talk to my plants, name my plants. I love plants, period. I had plants growing up, and my grandmother had an incredible garden. And she used to grow so much of the food that we would eat, from, like, tomatoes to zucchini to pumpkin, like, everything. And I feel like my grandmother really gave me a green thumb. So I'm kind of obsessed.

I just have to say thank you so much for coming on. That was so fun to sit down with you again, like, every day.

This was so much fun.

It was because I feel like we may meet at some point, like, at, like, a party in LA or whatever, but to get to sit down, we have so much in common and especially, like, our recent lives. And it was so incredible to sit down with you and get to know you more today. And I'm happy that my audience is going to get to know you more, too.

Me too.

Congratulations again. I like keeping, like, look at her eyes, but I'm like, oh, my God, that rock is so.

Thank you. No, I really appreciate it. It's like, a big chapter in our lives, and I feel like, like, getting all the, like, blessings and the congratulations and everything. It does mean so much to me because, like, it's a beautiful, like, I know you. You know exactly what I'm saying. Like, it's a beautiful, beautiful moment and amazing. I'm. I'm over the moon.

Love. Love. We did it. Thank you. Thank you. Foreign.

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