Interviewer/Host (2:03)

I think I was. No, literally before you came in, I was like, I hope she just, like, sees the vision and is like, what is this person doing? Happy holidays. How are you doing?

Zooey Deschanel (2:13)

I'm good. Is that comfortable, by the way?

Interviewer/Host (2:15)

It's actually weirdly very comfortable. And I didn't expect to wear this today. A sweater and jeans on. But then I just put this on for some social ideas. And then I was like, you know what? Maybe this will get us in the mood.

Zooey Deschanel (2:26)

Yeah, I. I'm. I'm in the mood. You're feeling festive and you're like. And we're like, we're going to ride that mood, like, the whole time.

Interviewer/Host (2:33)

We're. We're riding it. We're going to go through the holidays together. Yes. Okay, let's talk about the holidays. We're kind of in the middle of it right now. Do you have any good plans this year?

Zooey Deschanel (2:43)

Like, I'm such a traditionalist. Like, I'm very much, like, I love, like, hanging out with family, like, singing Christmas carols. I like. Yeah, I. We're very festive. We. We decorate, like, go big with the decorations.

Interviewer/Host (2:58)

Can you talk to me about decorations, though? Because, so I don't have kids yet. And I've been trying to convince my husband, like, we need to, like, gear up. Right. So I've been, like, trying to buy stuff for our house that. So when we do have kids one day, it's like a winter wonderland.

Zooey Deschanel (3:12)

Right.

Interviewer/Host (3:13)

And he's like, okay. Like, I. I see the vision sort of, but I feel like I'm only going half in, so I think I need to. If you're going to do it, you got to go all in. Like, do you do every room? Do you do some rooms?

Zooey Deschanel (3:23)

We do a lot of rooms. But you know what? It does build up over the years. And then you do have to, like, it's like, you do have to edit, like, because you. We have. I'm really into Christmas, and then Jonathan's really into Christmas. So it's like. It's like I was the one in my family growing up. My dad comes from, like, a Quaker background, and if you know anything about that, they're very simple and plain, and you don't want to show off. And so, like, he liked Christmas trees with no decorations. And I was like, I love decorations. I want everything decorated, like, over the top. And so I remember coming home, like, from college for Christmas, and no one had bought a tree and there was, like, no decorations. And I went out and I got, like, a tree and all these decorations. I decorated the whole house, so that's me. And then Jonathan's like, probably more. Even more love. And then we have these wonderful guys from Glitterville, which is, like, an awesome place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where they. They make all these Christmas decorations. They come and decorate our house.

Interviewer/Host (4:23)

So, my God, we're kind of spoiled one day. Yeah, I'm going to be calling them.

Zooey Deschanel (4:27)

Yeah, you'll call them. Yeah. I'll give you.

Interviewer/Host (4:28)

There is Your tree, though, does it have, like, really nice, fancy ornaments or do you do a couple where it's like your kids made it or you made it one year.

Zooey Deschanel (4:37)

That's a great. What are we Question. Okay, so, yeah, so downstairs in our, like, main areas, we have two trees and they're kind of themed. They're a little different every year. The one in the, like, living room is. Last year was, like, champagne themed. This year it's a little more like gingerbread Y. Love.

Interviewer/Host (5:01)

You got themes.

Zooey Deschanel (5:02)

Yeah, the themes are fun and there's, like, lots of snow. This year, like, lots of fake snow. And then in the family room, the big, big tree is very sparkly and colorful and like tinsel and stuff like that. But then upstairs in the kids playroom, we put two trees, one for each kid. And they can decorate it however they want and they can put all their homemade ornaments and wait.

Interviewer/Host (5:26)

That's so cute. Now, when are we putting up the tree? Because this is also another point of contention in my house. Yeah. When are you doing it?

Zooey Deschanel (5:36)

Sometimes September after Halloween. Sometimes it happens. Like. Like last year, I think somehow it was right after Halloween because that's just how it worked out. This year we put up the trees right before Thanksgiving.

Interviewer/Host (5:52)

See, I'm like, I. Well, my husband's also Jewish, but, like, he fully supports me in my Christmas extravaganza. And sure, it's like Chrismika, but, like, it's Christmas, you know, for the decorations. And so Matt is always like, it can't be September 1st, Alex. And I'm like, the minute hits ball. We gotta go. So now we've compromised and we did it right before Thanksgiving, which I feel like is good, right?

Zooey Deschanel (6:13)

I think it's great because you just. You want as long with that tree as possible. And the other thing you can do in a, you know, a mixed, like, faith house is you do the Christmas tree with the Hanukkah colored ornaments.

Interviewer/Host (6:28)

Zoe, I'm going to go home tonight and I'm about to rock his world and be like, I have compromised. He's gonna be like, oh, my God. Honestly, that's a good idea.

Zooey Deschanel (6:36)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (6:37)

Do you host?

Zooey Deschanel (6:39)

Yes. So, yeah, we always like to do like, Christmas Eve dinner and stuff like that for the family.

Interviewer/Host (6:44)

Have you ever had any hosting disasters?

Zooey Deschanel (6:49)

We did have a Christmas party a few years ago, and the, like, our landscapers, who are amazing, brought in some mulch to like to make everything look really fresh, but accidentally had, like, fertilizer in it, which smells.

Interviewer/Host (7:06)

No, but.

Zooey Deschanel (7:07)

But it was completely honest mistake. But I was Just like putting like cinnamon sticks, like trying to burn them everywhere.

Interviewer/Host (7:15)

Everyone's like, zoe, your house was so good.

Zooey Deschanel (7:17)

Well, we were like, it's just fresh. It's just fresh.

Interviewer/Host (7:21)

Oh, okay, got it. But you're hosting more than you're going to places.

Zooey Deschanel (7:24)

We like to host, we like to go place. We're social. We're social. We're social.

Interviewer/Host (7:28)

People talk to me about holiday movie. What is one holiday movie you have to watch every single year?

Zooey Deschanel (7:34)

Die Hard.

Interviewer/Host (7:35)

Wait, Zoe. What? Wait, wait, what?

Zooey Deschanel (7:41)

Die Hard is a great Christmas, Mom.

Interviewer/Host (7:43)

Like, so Elf is mine. You're like, I love Elf. Have you rewatched it?

Zooey Deschanel (7:47)

But since I'm in it, I'm not like, it's funny because my kids were a little resistant to. They're. They're a little resistant to watching me. They're not as resistant to watching, like, if there's something where I'm a voice, like trolls freely watching that. But like, if I'm in something, they're a little like, is that Mommy? Or is that like. Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (8:10)

I mean, how old are they now?

Zooey Deschanel (8:11)

They're. They're 8 and 10. But just this year my daughter said she wants to watch it with her friends.

Interviewer/Host (8:16)

Elf.

Zooey Deschanel (8:16)

Yeah. So I was excited.

Interviewer/Host (8:19)

So you're probably about to become like the coolest mom. Slowly. You're about to be like, maybe it's about to turn for you.

Zooey Deschanel (8:24)

Maybe. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

Interviewer/Host (8:26)

One of the all time greats.

Zooey Deschanel (8:27)

Or they'll hate it and hate me.

Interviewer/Host (8:29)

Right? Be like, mom, that was so embarrassing.

Zooey Deschanel (8:30)

Such a dumb. I'm so embarrassed.

Interviewer/Host (8:32)

Okay, wait, so you were 21 years old when you filmed Elf?

Zooey Deschanel (8:36)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (8:36)

Is it true that you actually were not going to first be booked for this role? And then. So what happened?

Zooey Deschanel (8:43)

They had offered it when I met with John the Favreau, the director. I walked in and he was like, oh, you don't need to read. We just offered it to Katie Holmes. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. And he's like, well, sit down and talk for a minute. And I was like, okay. So what was great about that was like, I wasn't nervous. I didn't like, have to, like, you know, it's like, like when you're an actor, you're like, first starting and you're like auditioning. You get nervous and you're like psyching yourself up for the. You know, I wasn't nervous at all because I was like, well, I'm not getting the part. I'm not getting the part. So it Was. It was kind of great because I was not nervous. And then when she had some scheduling conflict, and then they were like, who should we have? And I think the character was kind of meant to be, like, worked around whoever played her. And they knew I sang because I had a cabaret act where I do, like, like, jazz standards and stuff. And so that kind of worked out with the character. Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (9:53)

And at the time, do you think you all knew how big it was going to be because of Will, or did. Did it still? Not really.

Zooey Deschanel (10:00)

Will wasn't like, he, he was just start. I mean, he was like. Had done old school.

Interviewer/Host (10:06)

Yeah, I guess you're right. It was still on the rise. He hadn't done stepbrothers.

Zooey Deschanel (10:10)

Yeah, he hadn't done stepbrothers. Like, he hadn't done all of his, like, huge.

Interviewer/Host (10:13)

You didn't even know, though, it was going to be as big as it was.

Zooey Deschanel (10:16)

Well, I, When I read it, I was like. I remember, like, giggling out loud, and I was, like, really enjoying myself. And I was like, that must be a good sign. And then I've. I've taken that as, like, my litmus test. Like, ever since then. I was like, you know, like, almost every time I, like, laugh out loud while reading a script, because if you laugh out loud while reading a script, then you're probably gonna laugh, like, even harder when you see someone doing it.

Interviewer/Host (10:43)

Well, you had to have your hair be blonde. That wasn't a wig, was it?

Zooey Deschanel (10:48)

No, I, I, that was because I, I was young and just starting out and trying to get jobs, and there was a. A movie about a pop star that was, like, floating around, and the producer really wanted me for it, and he was like, let's do a screen test. And they, like, dye my hair blonde, put, like, extensions in it and all this stuff. And we did this, like, screen test. The movie never ended up happening, but I had this blonde hair for, like, a little bit, and I still hadn't dyed it back brown because I was, like, 21. I didn't have, like, that much money to, like, go and do my hair all the time. So I was kind of, like, waiting. I'm like, I'll grow out a little bit. And then once I got the part, I was like, well, can I dye my hair back brown? And they were like, no, you have to have the same hair you had when you came in. And I'm not sure where that came from, but that's what I was told. So then I had to, like, maintain this, which takes, like, eight hours. Like, if, you know, black hair. My hair is almost black. To dye your hair blonde, girl, that's.

Interviewer/Host (11:47)

Like, the biggest undertaking ever. Like.

Zooey Deschanel (11:50)

Yeah. To. To strip really dark hair.

Interviewer/Host (11:52)

You would never do it again, would you?

Zooey Deschanel (11:54)

I would wear a wig. Because it's not great for your hair. Like, my hair. I will say that, like, my hair is, like, really stiff in the movie because it was like, it was bleached and then it was highlighted, you know, And. And then I remember I had extensions. And of course, I was, like, young and dumb, and I remember they glued the extensions and I couldn't get them out, and I was, like, trying to pull them and I, like, ripped my hair. I had, like, short pieces, like, that long.

Interviewer/Host (12:20)

I do remember because I just watched it. This does not move. It's literally perfectly curled up and it just, like, stays right there.

Zooey Deschanel (12:28)

There's a reason for that. Good to know. Called chemical processing.

Interviewer/Host (12:33)

Okay, can you tell us. Because obviously, because it's holiday season and we're going to go through a lot of your movies, but what was your first impression of Will Ferrell? Because obviously that movie was so iconic.

Zooey Deschanel (12:42)

He's, like, the nicest human being, like, anyone who's worked with him. Like, there's no bad experiences with him. He's so nice. He's nice to everybody.

Interviewer/Host (12:50)

He.

Zooey Deschanel (12:50)

He's so fun. He's, like, game for anything. And I think the thing about Will is, like, like, he's super playful and fun and open and just like a nice person. And I think that kind of, like, informs who he is as an actor because he's like, he's, like, so willing to play, you know?

Interviewer/Host (13:08)

No. Yeah. I kind of forgot how, like, physical comedy he was in that movie. As I was rewatching it, I'm like, oh, my God. There were so many moments where you're like, whoa, what are his legs doing? And all the things. Like, it's so funny. Do you have any, like, if you can remember, like, your favorite scene to film together in that movie?

Zooey Deschanel (13:27)

Oh, my gosh. I like doing all the stuff in the department store because there's, like, so much, like, kind of farcical energy to that. It's like, you know, and. And like, fun characters. Like when he thinks he's like, I know Santa, and then Santa comes. It's not the real, like, the real Santa. And then he starts, like, freaking out. There's so much fun stuff in there.

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Interviewer/Host (16:27)

Both of your parents worked in Hollywood, right? Your mom was an actress. Your dad was a cinematographer.

Zooey Deschanel (16:32)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (16:33)

What was it like growing up in a house with such creative, artsy energy?

Zooey Deschanel (16:39)

Oh, that's a good question. So my parents are like. It's like they're not like my. My mom was like a working actress, like not famous. Or anything. But she, like, she, she did really well and she's really smart and great and. And then my dad, My dad's like an artist, you know, like, he's just like everything. Like he, he loves taking pictures. Like even still, like we were in Rome this summer, like all of us, and like we'd have to go out at like they'd go out every day at five in the morning and it's like to find the light for the.

Interviewer/Host (17:12)

Just the pictures, get the shot.

Zooey Deschanel (17:14)

Just to take pictures. Yeah, just like he's taking pictures of buildings and he's taking pictures of my mom and me. And it's. Everything is always like. It's just like he just sees the world in this like, you know, incredible way. But. Yeah. So they're both really creative, artistic people and have like amazing tastes. So I do remember like growing up and being like, like, like if I liked a movie that was kind of silly, I was like, don't say anything because they have like such good taste, you know, Interesting.

Interviewer/Host (17:48)

So like, I liked.

Zooey Deschanel (17:49)

I remember liking like silly sitcoms and stuff like that. Like, I'm not.

Interviewer/Host (17:53)

Don't tell my dad anything because he's like, that's. No, no, no. Let me show you something.

Zooey Deschanel (17:57)

Godard movie.

Interviewer/Host (17:58)

Oh.

Zooey Deschanel (17:59)

Which I love too. But like I remember this sense of being like, ah.

Interviewer/Host (18:04)

Like there's like a high standard.

Zooey Deschanel (18:06)

Standards were so high that I remember being like, yeah, like too crazy.

Interviewer/Host (18:12)

Yes. I really related because I saw you said in an interview that seventh grade was the worst year of your life.

Zooey Deschanel (18:18)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (18:19)

Which then I was like, is that just like all of a lot of our experience? Because seventh grade was literally the worst year of my life.

Zooey Deschanel (18:24)

Tell me.

Interviewer/Host (18:24)

I think it's like when you're that age, there's a coming of age where everyone's starting to maybe like actually look at boys and girls and like maybe start to be more aware of the way everyone looks and the differences and sexuality and all these things. And like, I just was like a very awkward, very awkward, like lanky, acne braces kid. And I just didn't, I just didn't fit in the way that my friends were.

Zooey Deschanel (18:56)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (18:56)

And so I experienced just like a lot of bullying because kids are horrible. And at that age, if you're not with the crowd and you are, you know, conforming to what everyone feels like is the normal standard, then you just stick out like a sore thumb and then everyone like puts you down for it.

Zooey Deschanel (19:11)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (19:11)

So I experienced that. And then when I read that, I.

Zooey Deschanel (19:13)

Was like, seventh grade, it's seventh grade is the worst.

Interviewer/Host (19:16)

What happened in seventh grade for you?

Zooey Deschanel (19:18)

I was similarly awkward, but different. I was, like, kind of chubby and not that there's anything wrong with that. I. It was, like, would have been fine if I hadn't been ridiculed for that and just like, an awkward person. I hadn't quite, like, figured out my personality yet. And, like, all the friends that I had been friends with kind of, like, splintered off into other groups and changed and were different and, like, not. Not the same support situation. And then you have, like, all your hormones and everything and. But what was funny about seventh grade is I. I joined a swim team. And, well, separately, I had, like. I had, like, this one girl who, like, bullied me, like, really bad, who, like, spit in my face, like, was just awful. It was like, those things she seemed. I remember her going like, you're trying to act like you're thin. Which now I'm like, do you like. I'm like, this was, like the mid-90s. I'm like, now would. Nobody would say that, I don't think. But, like, I remember her saying that to me and being like, I don't. I was like, dude, am I trying to act like I'm thin? I don't think so. I think I'm just acting like myself.

Interviewer/Host (20:30)

Can you imagine? Like, can you imagine in that context, you're like, how does that kid. And what's going on at that kid's house that they feel comfortable to speak that way?

Zooey Deschanel (20:40)

I know.

Interviewer/Host (20:40)

To another person. And then you're sitting there being like.

Zooey Deschanel (20:42)

And I was like, like, I don't think so. And I'm also like, I. I also was like, why are you coming after me? I was like, I, like, was trying to hide from her all the time, but. Yeah, but I joined the swim team, and. And I, like, lost about 30 pounds over the year. And then I grew six inches over the summer. And so when I came back, I had, like, a new lease on life because 8th grade, everyone was like, are you the same person? You look really different. So it was kind of, like, fortunate that, like, my growth spurt happened in this, like, weird.

Interviewer/Host (21:17)

That was like, literally like a movie. Like, you walk in, you're like, I'm back.

Zooey Deschanel (21:20)

Yeah. I was like. I also was, like, not even aware because I went to summer camp and I came back, and then everyone was like, you look totally different.

Interviewer/Host (21:28)

Do you feel like anything that you went through has informed as a mother, like, how you're talking with your kids, just, like, making sure they're good in school and everything. Because when you experience that I have like a soft spot, I don't even have kids yet, and I'm like, oh my God, I'm gonna have to like make sure that I'm going in their rooms and talking with them and making sure that they're okay and how they're being treated because I didn't tell my parents. Did you share that with your parents that you were getting bullied?

Zooey Deschanel (21:53)

I shared. Okay.

Interviewer/Host (21:54)

Okay.

Zooey Deschanel (21:54)

Yeah. Yeah. So one of the things, like, I think we can't always control how other people act toward them, but we can, we can help them, give them tools like on how to react when people do something that's not very nice and also help them be the kindest people they can be, you know?

Interviewer/Host (22:16)

Do you feel like anything from your childhood just in terms of like those light, not even light, but just like insecurities?

Zooey Deschanel (22:23)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (22:24)

Do you still feel like any of that shows up today in your day to day life?

Zooey Deschanel (22:29)

I mean, of course it's like in there, but like it's like you in, in, in a good way. Like I, I like all those things that like, anytime you like go through something difficult, it helps like you become stronger. But I think I've made a real effort to never like show any. Like I, I have a daughter and a son and I don't want them to ever think like, oh, mommy's insecure or you know, like my, my, my mom doesn't like, you know, this or you know, I always want them to think like I'm happy with myself and like, because they get their self esteem from their parents, you know, so, so yeah, it's important to me to like, like show up with confidence.

Interviewer/Host (23:07)

And I think about like Hollywood is such an extreme for, especially for women on just like, yeah. Focusing on looks or weight or aging or all the things like what has your experience been as a woman in this industry dealing with, if anything like criticism over your appearance?

Zooey Deschanel (23:26)

You know, it's funny. I think it's like, I think you can like, you can let it roll off you and it doesn't really affect you if you, as long as you let it like not affect you, it's when you internalize it too much or you start to be like, oh, and you let those sort of negative things fester and you know, but I think when you kind of like, you know, let it roll off you and also just see that those things, they're, they're, they don't really matter. You know what I mean? Like a lot of people talk about them like they do, but they don't actually, they don't, when it comes down to it, that's not what's important. And so, you know, I, I definitely think that being, you know, having a strong sense of self beyond that is really important.

Interviewer/Host (24:19)

I mean, that's a beautiful message too, because I, I agree with you. It's like you can only control, like you said earlier, of like, what your response is going to be to things. And I think especially if you're, we're never gonna not get it as women. So at some point it can become, in a good way, you can have autonomy over your life to be like, I'm so much more interesting than the way I look. Yeah. And, and my weight and my age and all those things. And so if you can focus more on those, then I think you're going to live a healthier and happier life. Understandably. It's so hard.

Zooey Deschanel (24:51)

And then people don't see it really, like, it's like, then they move past it, you know, there. It's like you really see when, if somebody's really struggling with that and they're really internalizing it. I think, yeah, it's such a tricky thing. I mean, too, I, I think my identity was never super wrapped up in my appearance. I, I, I always made an effort to be like, is like more about what I'm presenting, is more about my style and like, like artistic and creative expressions versus, oh, like I'm so just naturally perfect. You know what I mean? It's like all those things are so ephemeral and, you know, they change and there's, you know, they're subjective. And so I think, I think, yeah, not, not having my identity so wrapped up in like, what I looked like when I was 25 is really great.

Interviewer/Host (25:51)

And I love that because I think there's a lot of young women that listen to this show and I think it's nice hearing that because I do feel that from you. Like, when I think about Zooey Deschanel, I'm like, oh, my gosh. Your style and like your energy, I think is so, it reads so much in a movie or in, you know, interviews you've done or print or whatever you do. Like, you have such a very specific sense of style and a unique individuality that I really respect. And I think especially with social media and as more kids grow up with it, I think trends can be very all encompassing where people are almost like copying each other because they think, like, this will make me cooler, this will make me Cool. And what's actually so much cooler is being like, you're this, like, unique individual that people kind of can't copy you or want to copy you because you're so true to yourself.

Zooey Deschanel (26:40)

Trends. Don't follow them.

Interviewer/Host (26:42)

Yes. Yes. Can we talk about your career?

Zooey Deschanel (26:45)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (26:45)

Okay, so you start doing auditions.

Zooey Deschanel (26:48)

16 years old.

Interviewer/Host (26:49)

Did you have any, like, memorable disaster auditions where you were like, how did that just happen to me?

Zooey Deschanel (26:55)

Yeah, I. I mean, so, so many. It was, like, a whole year of, like, terrible auditions. I remember, too, preparing. There was, like, one where I was reading for, like, some huge director, was like. I want to say it was like, Christopher Nolan or something. And I was like. And they called me in, and I had prepared for days, but then when I got there, I just completely, like, just got so nervous. I forgot everything. And I was like. And then the casting director was, like. Called my. Called my agents and was like, well, she was super unprepared. And I was like, no, no, no.

Interviewer/Host (27:34)

I just got really nervous.

Zooey Deschanel (27:35)

I was so nervous that I just, like, screwed up so bad. I. I have, like, a lot of learning differences, and I grew up, like, bad ADHD in a. A lot of girls were diagnosed with it. It was like. And I had, like, the combined type, which means I had, like, hyperactivity and inattentiveness. So a lot of stuff going on. So, like, I sometimes have to spend a little more time learning things and preparing, which I know well, but that's why it took me. And then once I know how to prep, then I know how to prep. But I think that it was, like, still in this, like, exploratory phase where I'm, like. I did spend a long time preparing, but it didn't really work. Yeah. I luckily have. My. My mom is a great actor, and she, like, when I was growing up, like, would, like, coach me, like, help me prep for auditions. So that was, like, hugely helpful.

Interviewer/Host (28:31)

But I feel like the conversation around. Yes. Like, so many, especially young women, were never, like, diagnosed at certain ages where you're like, what? Like, whether you're feeling like you're, like, failing in school or you're, like, feeling.

Zooey Deschanel (28:45)

Embarrassed, she's just not smart.

Interviewer/Host (28:46)

Yes. And it's like, no, that's not it. She just learns differently or whatever it be. Yeah. Did you feel like. Because I know you then went to Northwestern.

Zooey Deschanel (28:54)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (28:55)

And you intended to go to college, Then you left because you got a movie. Were you kind of happy to get away from school because you didn't feel like maybe that was your place? Or did you kind of. Was it hard decision for you to leave college?

Zooey Deschanel (29:07)

It was hard and I will say this, so in elementary school it was a real struggle. But, but I, I'm, I'm a pretty, I'm a pretty like nerdy person, very love studying. And so by the time I was in high school, I was like thriving in school. So it was just kind of coming up with the right strategies for me. And, and back then, like, they didn't really like readily medicate people. I was not medicated. And like, it was just coming up, it was just more realizing I need more time. So if some one person takes like, you know, an hour to study, it might take me like two hours because I have to like leave in space to like, like daydream and like, you know. But then I might come up with something like really interesting that's different. And, and so I think it's just, it was kind of a matter of like accepting how I was and, and then so yeah, I, I, I thrived in high school. I got really good grades and, and was like graduated with honors and then went to Northwestern and I loved it. But it was just, it was, what I realized was like my focus had always been on being an actor. So I made a risky decision which was sort of. I put a storage locker like on hold for my stuff, like from my dorm room because I'd gone a movie and I was going home and I was like going to go back. And I was like, I'll put all my stuff in there. And then I got there and they didn't have the reservation. And I was like, that's it.

Interviewer/Host (30:36)

I was like the sign.

Zooey Deschanel (30:37)

I was like, that's a sign I got. And I was supposed to do a photo shoot for like British Vogue or something. And they'd given me money to fly home. And it was like in travel respects or something, I remember. And I was like, well take like my flight wasn't quite that amount. They'd given me just like a budget. And then I was like, okay, I'll just use the rest of that money to ship my stuff home.

Interviewer/Host (31:03)

And you never went back?

Zooey Deschanel (31:04)

And I never went back.

Interviewer/Host (31:05)

Did your family support you? Like, did you have any hesitations of leaving college?

Zooey Deschanel (31:10)

My parents were really supportive. They like, because they both got to do this, like, you know, these creative things and got that like, you do what you got to do and, and there is still a part of me that's like, I love school and I want to go back to school sometime. I just don't know what I want to study. But I. I love school. But. But my parents were supportive. It was more like, when I'd run into, like, my parents, friends, like, at the grocery store, they'd be like, go back, right?

Interviewer/Host (31:33)

They're like, sweetie, what are you doing with.

Zooey Deschanel (31:34)

Sweetie, what are you doing with your life? And I had this. I made this decision where I was like, well, I don't want to brag, so I don't want to tell anyone that I got a movie. And that's why I left school. So I'm just gonna be like, I quit. And they just thought it was, like, the biggest Loser. Like, I mean, for like, a year until this film came out, I was just like, Zoe, like, really went off the rails.

Interviewer/Host (31:57)

I feel like that speaks a lot, though, to your character and who you are, where you don't care what people think. The fact that you are in the grocery store being like, yeah, yeah, I just quit. I'm a loser doing nothing with my life. Meanwhile, you're like, it was minus one year till you find out.

Zooey Deschanel (32:11)

It was fun to see, like, how judgmental people are when they think, is it crazy? It is crazy.

Alex Cooper (32:18)

It is.

Interviewer/Host (32:19)

And it's. I hope that now there is more acceptance around non. Just, like, traditional linear paths of, like, you go to school, then you do this, then you do this, and you get the job, and it's nine to five and you do this. Like, there's just so much more, I think, out there for people that don't want that. I'm not saying there's a problem with the traditional path, but I do think it's cool to see how people have actually been now becoming more open to, like. A lot of kids aren't supposed to go down the path that maybe their parents did, and that's okay.

Zooey Deschanel (32:48)

And some kids, like, need a gap year. Like, they. To travel. They have to see the world a little bit, or they need, like, time to, like. Because sometimes high school is, like, a lot of pressure. I mean, I know I was, like, studying all the time, like, doing theater too, but, like, I mean, I was just. I was just, like. I felt, like, a lot of pressure academically and, you know, to. And I didn't really do a lot of social stuff. Like, that's how, like. And so, like, I was like. And then when I went to college, I was like, like, whoa. Like, because, yeah, it's a lot. There's a lot going on.

Interviewer/Host (33:20)

It's a good point. It's like, we feel like we just have to do these things. But then when you check in, it's like there's so many kids in high school, they're like, I'm about to burn out. Like, I can't keep doing this and being in tune as a parent, hopefully to be like, what does this child need compared to my other child?

Zooey Deschanel (33:35)

Or whatever. That's the thing that's cool about having kids is you see like when they grow up and they're like, mine are like two years apart and, and, or a little less than that. So, so they're pretty close in age. So I could see like what's developmental and like what, you know, whatever. They walk between this age and this age and those types of things and then like, what's their personality? And you'll see glimmers of their personality when they are like newborns. That's what's amazing. There's like stuff that's stays with them. Yeah, I love that. So interesting. Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (34:08)

What do you think was your breakout role?

Zooey Deschanel (34:13)

That's a good question. I'll have like versions. I mean, I would say like Elf was probably it because it, that was like, that was like the first movie that I did that was like big, you know, like I did Almost Famous and that was like, I got a lot of like really nice kind of notices and people really liked that film. But it, but Elf was kind of like on this felt like more global or something and, and I was a bigger part. So.

Alex Cooper (34:48)

Yes.

Interviewer/Host (34:50)

Another movie that people obviously fell in love with you in was from 500 Days of Summer. I mean, obviously I feel like a lot of people are like, that is like my favorite coming of age movie. A lot of people love it. You ended up always kind of like, definitely defending your character, Summer, against accusations that she was the villain of that story, which is so crazy. And I think hopefully now people would look back and be like, what? But at the time it really felt like people were like, she's the problem. Like, this was messed up. What do you think people got wrong about her?

Zooey Deschanel (35:24)

Well, I mean, I think, I think a lot of things about that, I, I, I, I think it's changed a lot, like the point of view about that movie. I think I was really shocked actually when it came out because we all kind of had the point of view that this was kind of like they're a little bit star crossed. Like she's in one place, he's in another, and it's all from his point of view. And you kind of see the tragedy of the fact that he wants more. And she sees this as something passing and isn't ready for this yet. And then when it came out, all of a sudden, I especially wasn't so much girls, but it was guys. They'd be like, I hate you, Summer. I'd be like, whoa, wait a second. I was like. I was shocked. I was like, wait, she's very clear with him from the beginning. Like, I'm like, what more do you want from her? So. So. So she has to do what he wants, like, no matter what. I was just. I was just really surprised that that was the takeaway. And. And I understand that sometimes people don't know what to do with their emotions and that probably they just felt like they were really, like, shipping this couple. They're like, we want them to be together, but. But she said, like, I don't want anything.

Interviewer/Host (36:49)

I know. That's what's so crazy. I also just feel like maybe we are now more progressive as a society. So, like, especially, like, this is. You couldn't be more clear. You're like, I want to keep things casual. And then he keeps seeing the girl. So it's like, okay, if you're down with this. I remember after that movie, the term manic pixie dream girl, right? Became just, like, this whole conversation. And to anyone maybe who's like, my younger audience that isn't familiar with that term. Can you explain what manic pixie dream girl means?

Zooey Deschanel (37:21)

It's the. Okay. It's the term everyone seemed to use to describe, like, any female in a movie that was left of center or different that wasn't just, like, the hot girl, like, someone that had thoughts in her head, had opinions, was a little different. I know the first I. I was. I went on a deep dive because. About that. Because I remember being like, wait, every time I would be in something, I would be reduced to this. And I. It was something a journalist used to describe Katie Holmes in Pieces of April, which was like a. An indie movie that went to Sundance, like, in the early 2000s. And then since then, they just used. And, like, then they used it to describe, like, Natalie Portman and Garden State and, like, pretty much like. And then somehow every character I ever played, and I'm like, I don't think all these characters are the same. And, I mean, it just felt, to be honest, a bit like, let's come up with a new thing and. And let's be a little more creative, because it started to also feel like an insult or something. Like, it was used as in this, that. That you're. That. The manic pixie dream girl. This was a way to make this character that was meant to be highly, you know, like, three dimensional. Trying to make it one dimensional. And I was like, no, actually, the point is to make a character three dimensional, not one dimensional. So, yeah, I was always a little bit like, look, you have to take everything in stride and realize that people call you stuff, like, all the time, and you have to have a thick skin about it, and it's fine, whatever. If people want to call me that, cool. But in my opinion, I think it's lazy to keep using it.

Interviewer/Host (39:17)

I agree, I agree. No, it's also crazy because, like, you come up with these tropes and these names that media obviously more centered towards women on these. Because I. I agree. It's like, if it's not just, like, the bombshell, like, Bond Girl, then it's like, where does. Where does the woman sit?

Zooey Deschanel (39:35)

We don't know what to do with her.

Interviewer/Host (39:36)

Yeah. And it's like, oh, my God. She's like, multi dimensional. What a concept. Meanwhile, you're watching, like, all these men. She reads books, looks.

Zooey Deschanel (39:42)

What do I do?

Interviewer/Host (39:42)

Well, she has glasses on and she, like, what?

Zooey Deschanel (39:45)

Like, is like Belle from Beauty and the Beast. A manic Pixie dream girl. That's my. My question.

Interviewer/Host (39:51)

Such a good point.

Zooey Deschanel (39:52)

Is Tiana a manic pixie dream girl? She's like, an entrepreneur. Are we manic pixie dream girls? Do we move, like, Disney princesses into the manic Pixie dream girl era?

Interviewer/Host (40:02)

It's such a good point. It's like, if that is what they're basically saying, then I guess the goal should be to strive to be.

Zooey Deschanel (40:08)

Everyone should watch to be a manic pixie dream girl because you're clearly, like.

Interviewer/Host (40:12)

Getting people so riled up that you're.

Zooey Deschanel (40:14)

Not really emotional about. I'm like, why are you so emotional about this manic Pixie dream girl thing? You're very upset. Right?

Interviewer/Host (40:21)

I'm glad, though. It's like, it's getting you going. It's making you think I'm happy. My art is, like, touching you in that way.

Zooey Deschanel (40:26)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (40:27)

It's a good way to look at it. Okay. Another one of your most beloved characters was Jess from New Girl.

Zooey Deschanel (40:34)

Yes.

Interviewer/Host (40:34)

Obviously. How do you remember feeling when you first read that script?

Zooey Deschanel (40:41)

I absolutely loved that pilot script. Like, I was. Again, I remember where I was when I read it, because I was in the. The Virgin Atlantic Lounge in London, and the script was called Chicks and Dicks. That was. And I was like, do I want to read this? Like, I was like, what?

Interviewer/Host (41:05)

Like, whoa.

Zooey Deschanel (41:06)

I was like, chicks and digs. Like, what is this? And then. And then everyone was like, no, no, it's really good. And then I read it and I was like. I was sitting there and I was like, haha, like, laughing out loud. And I was like, well, that's a great sign.

Interviewer/Host (41:20)

Wow, there you go. Back to elf.

Zooey Deschanel (41:22)

Back to elf.

Interviewer/Host (41:23)

So I know that eventually the writer started to draw inspiration from you as an actual, like, person and put it into the show a little bit. What parts of yourself did you see reflected in this character?

Zooey Deschanel (41:36)

I would say all of us had, like, when you're on a show that goes a long time, they, like, kind of have to do certain things, especially like a sitcom. I think they'll take certain parts of your personality because they know they can kind of take advantage of those things. You know what I mean? Or they get how you. They get your rhythm and how you talk and, like, how you're going to say things. So it's like you'd always have, like, instances where they would write things that come out of your mouth, like, perfectly by season, you know, like probably by the end of season one. And so getting those things, like how to, you know, so they. They start to get you. And then, like, for Jess, like, you know, it's like, I like crafting and stuff like that. Like, there would be things where, you know, there was an episode that I felt like, was great because we were dealing with this a lot, where people were kind of criticizing the Jess character and me for being, like, feminine in a way that was maybe to some people, passe or something. Like, as if I was. As if I like crafting because I think it, like, makes me like a trad wife or something. Like, no, I like it because it's fun and creative and maybe it's relaxing. And there was a great episode that Julie and Julia. Jess and Julia. Jess and Julia. Sorry, There's a movie called Julia.

Interviewer/Host (43:03)

Yeah, Julia, Julia.

Zooey Deschanel (43:03)

That's. Yeah, Jess and Julia. And it's just this character. Julia is basically a lawyer and she doesn't like Jess because Jess is like, likes all these kind of feminine things. And it was kind of written as a. A little bit of a, you know, reaction to a lot of this. There was a little bit of girl on girl hate, you know, where it's like, you're different from me, so I'm not going to like you. Like, it's like, why? Why? Like, who cares? Like, there's not one way a woman should be, you know, and like, we all have masculine and feminine traits. And they come out in different ways. And I think, I think now it's a little different. But that was, that was a little while ago. And I, I love the way they reacted to that thing, you know?

Interviewer/Host (43:53)

Trust me. I think it is really unfortunate because I do think the girl on girl thing is still happening. Like, I see it online every day almost, where, sure.

Zooey Deschanel (44:03)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (44:04)

Women are tearing other women down because it's like, oh, like she's trying to be like this, or she's trying to be like this. And it's like, guys.

Zooey Deschanel (44:12)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (44:13)

Now, like, the men aren't even a part of the conversation. Right. It's literally just all these women going at each other. It's like, like, let's all just, like, let each other be.

Zooey Deschanel (44:20)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (44:21)

And just accept that you made to, like, crafting, and that's okay. And that doesn't mean you're being try hard to appeal to the male gaze. Like, what if you literally just, like doing it?

Zooey Deschanel (44:30)

Yeah, no, it's really interesting. I, I, I, I was pretty fascinated, like, in a similar way to the 500 days of summer thing.

Interviewer/Host (44:39)

It is crazy how sometimes the shows I'm sure you are on, then they spark a larger conversation, and you're kind of like this vessel to people starting to look and be like, oh, wow, we need to now make a social commentary again in another episode. And then there you guys did it. So it's kind of cool.

Zooey Deschanel (44:55)

It was fun to be able to be on something where they could respond in real time and we could kind of make something out of.

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The Internet was pretty divided on whether or not Jess and Nick should have ended up together. There was a lot of back and forth. Zoe, what was your take?

Zooey Deschanel (49:11)

My take was. Actually, I. I kind of wished this was just my own personal feeling because I. I like leaving things a little unfinished because I like people to decide, like, what they think happened, and it's sometimes unsatisfying for people. And I know it's not, like, really a network TV type ending, but I thought we should, like, end it before people knew whether it happened or not.

Interviewer/Host (49:35)

So in their heads, they can come up with what it was.

Zooey Deschanel (49:37)

Like. The Graduate ending is like, my favorite ending. Because you're like, okay, he went. He got her out. She's not getting married to this other guy. She ran. She's with him. But do we know if they're gonna. Then. Hello, darkness, my old friend.

Interviewer/Host (49:51)

We have no clue.

Zooey Deschanel (49:52)

Starts. I'm like. Sound of silence starts playing. I'm like, what's happening? And then they have this, like, moment of, like, we don't know. And I like that.

Interviewer/Host (50:00)

Okay, that's interesting.

Zooey Deschanel (50:01)

I like that you're like, maybe let them decide. I'd rather let the people. Let the people argue.

Interviewer/Host (50:06)

Let the people. I love that. Okay, I heard that you don't like to call it Mary Kill. You prefer to say Mary Berry One Night Stand.

Zooey Deschanel (50:14)

Yes. So, okay.

Interviewer/Host (50:16)

Mary Berry One Night Stand. Nick.

Zooey Deschanel (50:18)

Okay.

Interviewer/Host (50:19)

Schmidt Winston.

Zooey Deschanel (50:22)

Great question. I don't. I don't want to be, like, mean, because I love these people.

Interviewer/Host (50:27)

No, no. The berry is, like, just, like, put them to the side. We're actually burying them.

Zooey Deschanel (50:31)

Okay. I think you have to do it.

Interviewer/Host (50:35)

From the perspective of Jess.

Zooey Deschanel (50:37)

I think Jess would say, well, okay, let's just say yeah. And not the actors, because I don't want to. Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (50:44)

The characters.

Zooey Deschanel (50:45)

Let's say Mary Winston One Night Stand. Nick. I'm sorry. We have to bury Schmidt because he does a lot of bad. He does a lot of bad stuff.

Interviewer/Host (50:56)

Love. Okay. You had both of your kids while filming this show. Did you have any hesitations about starting a family during a really busy time in your career?

Zooey Deschanel (51:08)

That's a really great question. It was hard. I mean, I remember being like before I could tell anyone I was pregnant. Like, because when you're like less than 12 weeks pregnant, you're not, not supposed to tell. But I remember being like, like 11 weeks pregnant or something. And you're not supposed to drink coffee. Like, you're not like, you're like one cup of coffee. And like, I'm used to working like really, really long hours. Like people don't realize, like in TV you work like in films. Like, you work like, oh, 16 hour days, like normal. So I. And nights and like crazy. And I remember working a night and it was like a really long day and I couldn't drink coffee and I was just drinking like orange juice like non stop and just being like, this is crazy.

Interviewer/Host (52:01)

Do you want a coffee?

Zooey Deschanel (52:02)

And you're like, I'd be like, no, thank you. I just, I'm loving this juice. Like, they're like, we've never seen you drink orange juice before. I'm like, but I'm loving it now.

Interviewer/Host (52:11)

Oh my God.

Zooey Deschanel (52:12)

It's like the only way I could keep away was like, sugar. Like, okay.

Interviewer/Host (52:16)

So you at first were like, okay, I'm trying to hide it. And then once you. Did you tell your castle first? Did you announce it to the world? Like, how did you go about that?

Zooey Deschanel (52:24)

Yeah, I told them like a little bit before I announced it. And then like, they kind of had to write it in. So yeah, I. I told them and. And then they. Or not write it in. They had to figure out whether they want to write it in or hide it, which they chose to hide it. Both times. I did think it would have been cool to have written it in because that would have been a cool storyline, I think. But I know there were a lot of great minds thinking on it and they decided not to. And I was just like carrying around laundry baskets, like for whole season, constantly holding things behind planters.

Interviewer/Host (52:59)

What do you think is the biggest challenge that you've faced, balancing motherhood and career?

Zooey Deschanel (53:04)

Oh, that's a real. That's another great question. Okay, so I like really want to be a good mom and I always like, want to show up, up for them like whenever I can. But yeah, I mean, I've like, I realized that. So whenever I'm off work, I just show up for like everything. Like I'm there picking them up, I'm dropping them off, Like, I'm crafting in the, you know, classroom. I'm taking them to playdates. Like, I'm going and sitting and waiting for them outside their, you know, their dance classes and all the things. And then when I'm working, I just try as much. Like I'm like, okay, now it gets to like, okay, they get that, you know, I have to work. And now I show, you know, it's like, then it's like the school play. Like there's certain things where it's like you gotta be there in as much as you can. I get sometimes you can't, but like try to get there for like whatever the big game or the school play or like those big things. Cause those are the things they remember. Yeah, a lot.

Interviewer/Host (54:10)

That's what I feel like a lot of women, especially in a beautiful way now that so many more women are working.

Zooey Deschanel (54:16)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (54:16)

I think that there's the, the fear that a lot of women also talk about the reality of mom guilt.

Zooey Deschanel (54:22)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (54:23)

And being like, oh my God, I'm here, but I need to. I also wish I was here. And like how have you kind of balanced that when you are working to not let it just like overtake you? Because it can feel probably like a lot.

Zooey Deschanel (54:34)

Well, sometimes you feel like you're like, like you're like. Do these people have endless time? Like some people just have a lot of time to go and volunteer all the time. And it's amazing. And I, I like that is an incredibly important thing. But I don't always have time to do that. And it doesn't mean that I'm not a great mom. You know, I think it's like understanding that like kids, if they feel loved, like that's the most important thing. And you know, and it's like everyone has different way. Like it's just like you connect with any person, whether they're a grown up or a kid. But it's like you connect with your kids in unique ways. And it's like my kids and I each have specific things we connect on and, and I try to like, like really lean into those things. You know, we make little movies together. That's like something we do and we will like pick a genre and like watch a movie in the genre and then we'll make a little movie in the genre and I'll edit it it. And my son likes to do like stop motion animation. So we try to work that in. And then my daughter likes that. They loves acting so they, they, they.

Interviewer/Host (55:40)

You're a good acting partner to have.

Zooey Deschanel (55:42)

Well, I don't, I don't even act. You're just. They act in them.

Interviewer/Host (55:45)

Oh, you're directing and editing.

Zooey Deschanel (55:47)

Really cute. Yeah, I directed and yeah, it's really fun and and so it's. It's been. And. And sometimes I'm surprised. Like, I. We watched the Maltese Falcon because we were making a film noir, and I was like, there's no way they're gonna sit through this. And then they sat through the whole thing. They were, like, totally happy.

Interviewer/Host (56:04)

Look, you're doing what your dad did now. They're gonna have good taste, right? You have good taste. They have good taste. Let's talk about your relationship. Yes. You are engaged to Jonathan Scott. Yes. I know that you guys met filming carpool karaoke, which is literally adorable. At what point, though, did you realize that you were into him and that there was, like, a spark or a connection right away?

Zooey Deschanel (56:29)

I was like, he's really cute, like, handsome guy. And I was, like, going through a divorce that was, like, kind of under wraps because we were, you know, like, for our kids. We were like, you know, in divorce mediation. And. And so I was just kind of, like, looking for someone to flirt with. Like, I was like, oh, I'll flirt with him. He's fun, you know? And, yeah, we, like, immediately had a connection and it took a while for him to, like, drag it out that I was, like, getting a divorce.

Interviewer/Host (57:01)

And then.

Zooey Deschanel (57:02)

Yeah, and then we've been, like, inseparable ever since. He's like, the nicest person.

Interviewer/Host (57:06)

We and your siblings were both in the car for carpool karaoke afterwards. Was your sister like, this is a no brainer, or did they not see the chemistry?

Zooey Deschanel (57:16)

She might have been like, I knew that. Like, Like, I was like, I'm going on a date with Jonathan. Like, she might have been like, I knew it.

Interviewer/Host (57:22)

That's such a sister thing to, like, pretend they knew. Exactly. I'm like, no, you didn't. No, that literally never happened.

Zooey Deschanel (57:28)

She kind of does know everything, but I know.

Interviewer/Host (57:30)

I don't like to let my sister know that she knows everything.

Zooey Deschanel (57:32)

Do you have an older sister?

Interviewer/Host (57:33)

Older, yeah.

Zooey Deschanel (57:34)

So she's older. So she doesn't.

Interviewer/Host (57:36)

My sister knows everything, but I'm like, no, you don't.

Zooey Deschanel (57:38)

No, you don't.

Interviewer/Host (57:38)

Okay. Anyways, come to me when you want the answers. I'm like, oh, my God. God. Okay, so you go from carpool karaoke to dating. Like, who made the first move? Like, what happened?

Zooey Deschanel (57:51)

Well, it was probably, like, a mutual, like, first move, but we had a really, like, funny first date where, like, half the time he was trying to drag it out of me, like, what was going on. And I was like, I'll tell you later. Because we were, like, in a crowded restaurant and Then we. We did, like, karaoke. And, like, we were just going from the thing to thing. And then he's like, I want you to see this house I'm renovating. And I was like, oh, he's gonna try to kiss me. And then he didn't because he's just a nerd who's trying to show me house. And then I was like, well, that went, like, really badly.

Alex Cooper (58:24)

Stop.

Zooey Deschanel (58:24)

And I got in the car and he was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. Like, you left really fast and you're.

Interviewer/Host (58:30)

Like, I thought I was gonna get a make out.

Zooey Deschanel (58:32)

Yeah, I was like, I thought we were vibing.

Interviewer/Host (58:35)

And you eventually got your kiss.

Zooey Deschanel (58:36)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (58:36)

Yeah, we did. What?

Zooey Deschanel (58:38)

Is second date perfect?

Interviewer/Host (58:39)

What is Jonathan's best quality as a partner?

Zooey Deschanel (58:42)

He's like, so he's very kind, and he's like. He's, like, almost, like, methodical about making sure you're like. Everything's like, you're supported. He's very supportive and kind and, like. And, like, just. He's a really nice person. I mean, he's Canadian. Canadian.

Interviewer/Host (59:07)

Say no more. I'm like, got it.

Zooey Deschanel (59:09)

We love Canadians.

Interviewer/Host (59:10)

We love Canadians. What do you think he would say your best quality as a partner is?

Zooey Deschanel (59:16)

I'm fun.

Interviewer/Host (59:18)

I'm literally the life of the party. Obviously. Like, I bring the good. I'm very fun, and he's kind and I'm fun.

Zooey Deschanel (59:26)

He's also really fun too. I'm kind too. I'm kind too. I have good taste in men.

Interviewer/Host (59:34)

Done. Okay. So you got engaged. I know. At a castle. On vacation. Yeah, I hadn't, like. I'm curious. Did you have any idea you knew you were getting proposed to? Nothing.

Zooey Deschanel (59:46)

I had, like, thought other times we might get, like, engaged, and then it didn't happen. And so I was like, I guess it's never gonna happen because we'd been together, like, a long time, and. And we were in Edinburgh, which where his family's from. And I also, like, am originally Scottish, like my family and. But his dad is from. Actually from, like, near Glasgow in Lanark, and. Which is, like, I don't know, an hour from Edinburgh. Anyway, he loves Edinburgh Castle, and we were going there, like, with the kids, like, on a tour, and there was this whole. This was. What was so funny? There were, like, all these things that I flagged but didn't. Like, I just said, like, that's weird, because there was a thing that said, like, you might meet members of the royal family, so you can't wear a hat in the Calendar, like, there will be things. And I was like, what? I was like, the queen, like, they wear hats all the time. Like, royal family, like, is obsessed with hats. Why can't I wear a hat? Because I'm always wearing a hat. Because I'm like. Like, don't want sun. I'm terrified of the. Of the sun. And I'm like, that's so lame. And he's like, no, I mean, it makes sense. And I was like, okay, whatever. I didn't wear hat. Then it was like. He's like, you have to dress kind of nice. And I was like, okay. And I had, like, a silk blouse and, like, a silk skirt. I just put them on. They were, like, in my suitcase, like, so wrinkled. He's like, oh, do you. Would you like to iron those? And I was like, like, no. I was like, iron. That's like, that sounds terrible. That sounds like work, right? That I don't want to do. And he's like, I'll iron them. And I was like, okay.

Interviewer/Host (61:28)

This poor man is just trying to make sure you look gorgeous.

Zooey Deschanel (61:30)

Yeah. He's like. He's like. And I guess my mom was like, she's gonna need, like, hair and makeup. Oh. And he was like, you should, like, make sure to do your hair, like, for this random tour.

Interviewer/Host (61:41)

You're like, what are you trying to say?

Zooey Deschanel (61:42)

Why do I need to do my hair? But then I got it. And then there was another surprise, which was incredible because I'm incredibly close with my parents, and. And they weren't there for the proposal, but we went to Paris afterwards, like, the. Like, maybe a day or two later. And we were going to this restaurant, LA couple that, like, we went growing up. We'd go to Paris, like, every summer. My family is French. My dad's family. And when we got there, we said, oh, Deschanel. And she said, caleb. And I was like, oh, that's weird. And I was like, oh, no, that's because they just have it, like, in their system. And then they. We walked in. My parents were sitting there waiting for us. So they surprised us.

Interviewer/Host (62:27)

That's adorable.

Zooey Deschanel (62:28)

And Jonathan had, like, arranged. Yeah, he's very thoughtful.

Interviewer/Host (62:33)

That's really, really cute.

Zooey Deschanel (62:34)

Yeah. Okay.

Interviewer/Host (62:36)

Are you wedding planning?

Zooey Deschanel (62:37)

Yes. But it's really, like, a lot of pressure because, like, you know, he designs, like, incredible spaces. And, like, I'm like, there's like, no space, like, worthy of such a wedding. It's really hard to find. That's not, like, a gazillion of course dollars.

Interviewer/Host (62:52)

So you're.

Zooey Deschanel (62:53)

You got you just got married?

Interviewer/Host (62:54)

Yes, I got married almost two years ago. Like, a year and a half.

Zooey Deschanel (62:58)

Was that so fun?

Interviewer/Host (62:58)

It was so amazing. But I really, really love that my husband took. Took such part in the planning, if not, like, really help do it, because I was like, I don't want to do this on my own.

Alex Cooper (63:09)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (63:09)

And again, to each their own. There are some women that are like, I'm doing this whole thing, but, like, I really wanted my husband to plan it.

Zooey Deschanel (63:16)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (63:16)

And we went through all these different locations and all the things, and then we eventually found what we wanted to do, and it was perfect. But it is very stressful. Yeah. It's fun, but it's stressful.

Zooey Deschanel (63:26)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (63:27)

So you're gonna figure out.

Zooey Deschanel (63:28)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I. We've both been married before, right. So I'm like, this one has to be the most fun and.

Interviewer/Host (63:35)

But maybe that takes less pressure, right? Because you've had weddings before, so maybe you can be like, yeah, what do we want now, you guys? You kind of get to like, yeah, have a do over.

Zooey Deschanel (63:44)

I know. Which is why it takes forever, right?

Interviewer/Host (63:46)

You're like, oh, God. You're like. He's like, oh, we'll do this. You're like, no, that. I did that. That wedding and that was not fun mix. That I was gonna say, because you guys have both been married before. As you were getting more serious, this. How openly were you able to just talk about past relationships and, like, what worked and what didn't work?

Zooey Deschanel (64:05)

Yeah, I'm very open. So. Yeah, I mean, it was. We're. It was pretty easy because I. I'm pretty open. But, you know, the thing is, like, to me, it's just all about, like, chemistry. It's like, what. You know, it's like, we. He and I can be together, and it's like, easy, you know? And so I think it's like, more just about, like, you know, how people, like, that person's the one or whatever. I think what that means is that you can be around them and it's like. Feels like easy and, like, not stressful. And, you know, it just, like, that's what I felt when I was with him. And I think he feels the same way where it's just like, we can be together and, like, have fun, but also, like, he likes to tinker around the house. He's always, like, fixing stuff, and he has, like, a list of things. And, like, I have, like. I like to go out and go shopping, whatever I like to do, you know, and hang out with my cats or Whatever. And, yeah, it just. We can just be around each other. It's easy.

Alex Cooper (65:06)

It's amazing.

Interviewer/Host (65:07)

You said in an interview that people think of divorce as this terrible thing and you have to hate each other, but that isn't true. What has your experience been like, yeah.

Zooey Deschanel (65:16)

I don't hate anyone that I was with before. And, you know, know, it's. It's awesome because my kid's dad is a great dad, and, like, I always want to, like, support him as a parent. And we have like a. You know, it's like we have a group chat, like Jonathan and Jacob and I. And. And. And, yeah, I mean, like, my kids thrive when they know that we all care for each other and, you know, and we socialize and we've been on vacations together, and like. Like, you know, we've. We've been through a lot. So, you know, I. You know, it's like, I explained to my son, I remember when he was little, and he was like, wait, because he was so little, he doesn't remember, like, before we got divorced, but he goes like, how come you and daddy don't live in the same house? And I was like, we get along better if we're in different houses.

Interviewer/Host (66:08)

It's a good way to say it. This is actually better for everyone.

Zooey Deschanel (66:11)

But, yeah, yeah, we get along great as long as we're in different houses.

Interviewer/Host (66:17)

So true. What boundaries do you think? Like. Because I'm sure a lot of people are like, oh, my gosh, I'm. That sounds so great. Like, to have, like, a healthy relationship with exes and whatever. But, like, what boundaries do you think have to be in place to just make sure that, you know, you can have blended families.

Zooey Deschanel (66:33)

Yeah.

Interviewer/Host (66:34)

If you have any advice.

Zooey Deschanel (66:35)

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I talk to people about this all the time because there are people, like, it's really hard for them to let go of, like. Like feeling mad. You have to let go of, like, any anger you would feel. And I know that sounds difficult, but it's actually pretty easy when you just go, like, look, the most important thing is that the, you know, the kids are happy and. And that they're thriving and. And. And it's kind of like respecting them for them, you know, it's like, I respect his opinions and his point of view. Like, being a parent, it's not always the same as mine, but, like, he respects mine. And. And so I think. And two, if you set the tone too, you go like, I respect you, then people are a lot more likely to be like, then I respect you. You know, so, like, I think it goes both ways. So then he'll respect me and I respect him, and then it just keeps. And then the respect just keeps generating and building, you know?

Interviewer/Host (67:26)

Yeah. It's like just having, like, an understanding that, yes, things didn't work out, but we have these beautiful children. So to, like, maintain love there for the kids is, like, beautiful.

Zooey Deschanel (67:35)

Yeah. He's a fantastic dad. I'm so lucky that, you know, he's. He's my kid's dad.

Interviewer/Host (67:41)

I know. I read that you said you and your ex agreed to meet each other's partners before they met the kids. Why was that something that you was so important to you guys?

Zooey Deschanel (67:48)

Yeah, just, I think, you know, that's the one, like, really big unknown when you get divorced. And. And I, I think also gives a sense there's a little bit of a boundary there with. So that the kids, like, they get attached to whoever you're with. And if they're meeting the kids and they're around the kids, then they are going to get attached. And it's like, you don't want anyone to take that lightly. Like, I wouldn't want them to get attached to somebody unless I knew they were going to be in their lives, you know, so even if it, you know, so it kind of set up. It kind of set up this. Just a little bit of a protocol so that we took it seriously before we'd introduce a partner to the kids.

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Interviewer/Host (71:28)

Today you have a new movie coming out, which is why I'm in this crazy outfit. But we're celebrating the holidays. Zoe. Yes, Merv. Congratulations. What can you tell us about the movie? And just like, how do you feel about it?

Zooey Deschanel (71:44)

It's such a cute movie. I'm really, really excited about it. It's got so much fun stuff. It's a rom com, which, like, I love rom com so much. And like, I feel like they went away for a while. Like there weren't that many of them. And I feel happy. There's like a, you know, more stuff like that coming out because I feel like people crave rom coms. It's such a sweet story. It's with Charlie Cox, who is amazing, great actor and is really funny and great in this. It's about a couple that breaks up, but they share a dog, and then the dog becomes depressed, and then they end up having to take the dog on a beach vacation to try to cheer him up over the holidays. So we have holidays, we have dogs, we have rom Com.

Interviewer/Host (72:31)

Okay, wait, but you're every cat person, so.

Zooey Deschanel (72:33)

I know. Did this.

Interviewer/Host (72:34)

Did this sway you to be more of a dog person?

Zooey Deschanel (72:37)

Well, I was a dog person person.

Interviewer/Host (72:38)

Oh, okay.

Zooey Deschanel (72:39)

So I only recently became a cat person. Oh, I love dogs, but they're a little more like, maintenance.

Interviewer/Host (72:45)

Yes.

Zooey Deschanel (72:46)

And. And I love. I actually love both dogs and cats. And I would call my cats kind of. Well, my favorite cat. Sorry. I love them all, but she's kind of like a dog cat.

Interviewer/Host (72:58)

What is her name?

Zooey Deschanel (72:59)

Her name is Dove. She's, like, really fluffy and cute, and she. The reason why, like, I say, like, she's my favorite.

Interviewer/Host (73:07)

It.

Zooey Deschanel (73:08)

The other ones would get it if they understand.

Interviewer/Host (73:11)

Obviously, right now they.

Zooey Deschanel (73:12)

They're big fans.

Interviewer/Host (73:13)

They're all listening right now.

Zooey Deschanel (73:16)

But. Yeah, well, she just loves me the most, and she, like, jumps in my lap. She's, like, really, really affectionate. They're. They're really affectionate cats.

Interviewer/Host (73:27)

So what made you want to do another holiday movie?

Zooey Deschanel (73:31)

Well, I didn't really. When I read this, I didn't, like, think, like, that was like. Like, it's. It's more of, like, a holiday movie in that it has holiday as a backdrop, and you can watch it on Christmas and feel Christmasy, but it's not like. It's not like, Elf, where it's like, holidays front and center. I'd say, like, romcom and dog are front and center, and then holiday is like a. Is an accent color. Yeah, it's like. It's like a. It's like piping on a sweater, like a collar, like a nice scarf.

Interviewer/Host (73:58)

What was your favorite part of making this movie?

Zooey Deschanel (74:01)

It was so fun. I. Jess Swale, the director. I love her. And Charlie is amazing. And it was really fun working with the two of them. And kind of. I. We kind of, like, did a lot of improvisation and trying to make it, like, the most kind of funny version of itself was really so much fun. I hadn't done, like, a really big dog movie that was funny to. To watch. The dog just, like, loves sausages. It's.

Interviewer/Host (74:32)

You're like. There's a lot of things I saw in that set that were.

Zooey Deschanel (74:34)

The dog just, like, loves. Like, they have these little bits of sausage, and the dog just obsessed.

Interviewer/Host (74:40)

And that's how you got him, like.

Zooey Deschanel (74:41)

Sit yeah, like, he looks so cute. And you're like, it's because he's looking at a sausage.

Interviewer/Host (74:45)

Honestly, in hindsight, my dogs would probably love to be on a movie set because you just like. Yeah, coerce them with treats every five seconds. Like, stay, sit. Don't they put.

Zooey Deschanel (74:53)

They have helped health. So, like, basically they give them, like, healthy treats so that it's not like they're.

Interviewer/Host (74:58)

Yes. They're not just plumping up the whole.

Zooey Deschanel (74:59)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're not like, they're not like bad free treats. So they're very healthy treats.

Interviewer/Host (75:03)

Really cute.

Zooey Deschanel (75:04)

But they'll give them, like chicken breasts and stuff like that. But yeah, and sausage.

Interviewer/Host (75:07)

Well, I'm so excited for everyone to watch it. Where can we watch it?

Zooey Deschanel (75:11)

It's on Amazon, love. Yeah. Okay.

Interviewer/Host (75:13)

Well, everyone will tune in. So we thank you so much for coming on Coloradi. It was a pleasure.

Zooey Deschanel (75:18)

Thank you for having me. This was lovely. Very special holiday episode brought to you.

Interviewer/Host (75:23)

By Zoe and Alex. Happy holidays, everyone. You're like, now I wish you wore. Do you wish you wore a little suit? You're like, no. You're like, no.

Zooey Deschanel (75:30)

I'm mad at myself for not.

Interviewer/Host (75:32)

Thank you so much for coming on.

Zooey Deschanel (75:33)

Thank you for having me.

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Alex Cooper (77:42)

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