
Have you ever wanted to grow in your understanding and devotion to the Glorious Mysteries of the Rosary? Join Dr. Ben Akers and professors from the Augustine Institute Graduate School as they walk through these Biblical mysteries and seek to grow in understanding and love for Christ through them.
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Host
Hi and welcome to form. Now we are in the fifth part of a five part series on the glorious mysteries of the Rosary. Today we are covering the coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary. And with me is Dr. Elizabeth Klein, who is a professor at the Graduate School. I just want to take a quick second to thank all of our Mission Circle members. Mission Circle is our small monthly giving society and it enables us here at the Augusta Institute, informed in the Graduate School to do so much. So we just thank you for your support and please consider if these conversations are benefiting you to give to the Mission Circle, it greatly helps us. So thanks for being on, Dr. Klein.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Thanks for having me.
Host
I thought a good place to start is, could you just walk us through what is the belief of this fifth mystery? The coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Right. So the church teaches that Mary, after her assumption, is crowned as Queen of Heaven and earth. And I thought it was interesting that you titled this series of Bible study on the mysteries of the Rosary since the coronation of the Virgin isn't explicitly mentioned in Scripture. So I thought that maybe we would start with talking about the scriptural basis of the doctrine of the kingship of Mary.
Host
Yes, I think that is a good idea. And as we mentioned in the last one when we covered the assumption that, yes, these last two mysteries in a particular way are difficult to find explicitly. And so we rely, as so much of the Catholic tradition has on typology, just the belief that there's Old Testament prefigurements that can help bring us to a deeper understanding of what is going on.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Right. And I think with this mystery too, I think it's just important to see how conceptually it comes from Scripture, even if sort of the event, if it can be called an event, isn't explicitly there. And so one thing that we really do draw some scripture, I think it's helpful to mention with regards to this mystery is why would Mary be the queen in the first place? Because we tend to think of the queen as the wife of the king. So if Jesus is the king and Mary is Jesus's mother, then why, what's going on with her being the queen? So something that a number biblical scholars have talked about is that in sort of the ancient Near Eastern worldview and the Old Testament, the mother of the king is typically understood to be the queen. The queen mother. And one of the reasons for this is of course that ancient kings practice polygamy. So if there's too many queens, lots of queens, too many queens, if the wife is divided king, if the Wife is the queen. And actually the mother of the new king would be especially important because often she would have a role in making that person become the king. And so she had a kind of place in the court and was considered a powerful figure and intercessor in that sort of ancient Near Eastern worldview. And so one place you can find that in the Old Testament that might be helpful is in First Kings, chapter 2. And this has to do with Bathsheba. So people who know the story of David will know that Bathsheba is one of David's wives and that her son Solomon became the king. And so she really isn't afforded a sort of special authority role until Solomon becomes the king. And then she, as mother of the king, has this kind of special role. So you can find. So the passage I'm looking at is Second Kings, chapter 2, verse 19. So in this passage, Bathsheba has been asked to intercede on behalf of one of David's other sons.
Host
Yes, so it says.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
So Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak on him, speak to him on behalf of Adinojah. The king rose to meet her and bowed down to her. Then he sat on his throne and had a seat brought for the king's mother. And she sat on his right. Then she said, I have one small request to make of you. Do not refuse me. And the king said to her, make your request, my mother, for I will not refuse you. So this is just one example of that sort of queenship role of the mother.
Host
And I think that it's almost. It's important not to kind of understate what is happening here, that the change with Bathsheba from when David was king to when Solomon is king is. It's drastic something. Her role in the kingdom has very much shifted. And that this is the principal place where we come to understand the Gebi ra, the idea of the queen mother, which is gonna inform us as Catholics of what's going on and also inform.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Us as to why the tradition would arise. So sometimes when you're talking to non Catholics about Mary, there's this idea that the tradition sort of came up out of nowhere. All this Marian stuff just invented this. It's just sort of mythological stuff that accrued over a long period of time. But actually, to a Jewish reader of the New Testament, it would have been obvious to them that if Jesus is the king, then Mary has this special queenship role. And this is really evident in the visitation in Luke's Gospel where Elizabeth greets Mary as the mother of my Lord which would have been recognized as a title of the mother of the Queen, this kind of, this royal.
Host
And I'm also thinking about the central content of Jesus preaching is the Kingdom of Heaven, the kingdom of God. And that term that he's using wouldn't have just come out of a vacuum and meant something entirely new, that it was largely based on the Davidic kingdom. And then it's good for us to look at the Davidic kingdom and see what the roles were and how things were moving and what was going on. And that serves as this pre figurement of what is going to become the kingdom of Heaven. It's obviously going to be transformed and it's going to be changed. But that like the central content of Jesus preaching was about a kingdom and that for a Jew, there was the Davidic kingdom that forms that entire concept for them. And there we see the Queen Mother.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And it's really interesting. This is a perfect segue to what I was hoping to talk about next, which is that as we had this fulfillment of the Davidic kingdom and yet in a way that wasn't expected, in a way that exceeds the expectations. And so likewise, the kingship of Jesus and so the queenship of Mary doesn't necessarily look the way you would expect. And so, yeah, we can recognize from the Scriptures, okay, why is Mary the queen instead of historical basis? But then we'd want to ask like, but what does that mean?
Host
Yeah, why does it matter?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
I mean, if you're contemplating the rosary, you don't want to be like, yep, she's the queen.
Host
What should I be doing right now?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah, so what does it mean? And so we get a hint of that in the scriptures from the book of Revelation, which is, you know, read on Marian feast days often the opening of Revelation 12, the woman and the dragon. So there you have a great sign appeared in heaven. A woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and her head, a crown of 12 stars. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth. So this obviously Catholics associate with Mary, but also at the same time with the church. And this is really perfect for how we understand Mary and her queenship. So she has the crown of 12 stars representing the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles. And so this really is a wonderful image for how Catholics see Mary. She's both the actual historical mother of the Savior while also being a type of the church. And this is exactly what you have going on in Revelation. It's both an actual woman who's giving birth to the Savior, but at the same time is clearly associated with the Church, with the twelve tribes and the twelve apostles of the Church. So in a very sort of straightforward way, you know, if. If the Church is the body of Christ and Mary is the mother of the body of Christ, then she's the mother of the Church, the queen of the Church.
Host
And then this is even made explicit, if you jump down in chapter 12 of Revelation there a little bit further to verse. So this is after the great battle has taken place, and it says then the dragon became furious with the woman who was crowned with 12 stars and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. So there we see that it's not. Mary's role is not just limited to Christ the head, but also to the members to the body, and that those who hold to the testimony of Jesus, who keep the commandments, they're her offspring. And then. So for us today, this obviously has significant.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
So for me as, especially as a convert, I remember first seeing the images over the coronation of the Virgin, and it's like the Trinity and they're putting a crown on her head, and it's really weirded me out. Like, what is she the fourth person of the Trinity? Or like, why is she so important? And what could this possibly mean? But you bringing up the fact that it's not just that she's the mother of Jesus, but the mother of the Church. And so she receives the crown as the first member of the Church, and really as the down payment for all of us. And so that initial reaction of, is she the fourth person of the Trinity? Of course she's not, but she's truly welcomed into the life of the Trinity, and so are we all right? And the beauty of the Rosary is that really, when you're praying the Rosary, you're really taking on a sort of Marian mind and understanding that these mysteries are about Mary, but also about you as her offspring, as a member of the body of Christ, that that crown is part of your inheritance, your royal priesthood, what you also will get. But the reason why it's important that we specifically meditate on her coronation now is that we understand not only is this a future hope, but it's a reality that's true now that she's already received the crown, that Christ has already won the victory. And so this part of this beautiful Marian aspect of the Church is helping us to understand that Christ, as our Redeemer, truly has redeemed the human race. And we know that it's true because of Mary, because Mary has already received the fruits of that redemption as being free from sin, from the mode of her conception, and that she's already run the race and gotten the reward. And so we see in her what, what is truly possible, what we all are hoping for, we're all hoping for and what we're going to obtain.
Host
And I think it's worthwhile noting too, because I grew up in America, I know you're Canadian, but never had a king or a queen. And so I think that there's a kind of negative sense about when you even hear of Christ's kingship. And it's important to call ourselves back to. It's not a tyrannical kingship, but it's one of love and justice and peace. And the same thing of Mary, that it's not like she's up there and she's like ruling over our lives, but that her queenship is exercised through kind of a pouring out of herself, just as was true for Christ. And I think that one of the most beautiful things that we can see, where we can see that is in connection back again with first kings, where we see Bathsheba interceding. And so how does Mary exercise her queenship? But she is, she's interceding for her children. That's us.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And also, I mean as mentioned briefly, that her queenship is tied to Jesus kingship. Because just as you're saying, we expect what power looks like in the world is I tell people what to do, I can control everything. But what Jesus kingship looked like was the crown of thorns. Jesus kingship is one that's entertained from the cross. Right. Augustine likes to call the cross his throne or is like a judgment seat. Yeah. And so it really is helping us understand what true kingship and true power actually looks like. It's exercised in complete self emptying and love. And we know, I mean, we know love is more powerful than tyranny. I mean, but we don't act like that.
Host
No.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
You know, and so Jesus shows us that that's actually more powerful. That's actually what causes conversion. That's actually what is the means of our salvation. And so likewise, Mary's queenship shows us that humility actually is the crowning of humanity. You know, being lowly, being God's servant, saying yes to God's will, that's actually what it, that's actually the path of power that actually the royalty that we all have. And we don't think about that, we think of it as being, I get.
Host
What I want, I can tell people what to do. No, it's so important. And then as you're bringing up Augustine, talking about Christ being on the cross, that's his throne. And then you just think of our lady of Sorrows at the foot of the cross. And that's a really great image of. What does that look like? It's a willingness to suffer with others. It's a willingness to stand by Christ when it's difficult. It's a willingness to stand with him when no one else will. And it's like that worldly shame in a way that being brought low, that humility, is what leads to the glorification of Christ. And it's also what leads to Mary being glorified, not. Not, so to speak, by her own merits, but by the grace of God is she elevated. And that. That too is a challenging path for us to walk.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Yeah. That reminds me of another quotation from Augustine where he says, what God will crown is not so much your own sort of your own works, but his own merits.
Host
Yeah.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And so that what that crown really represents is the grace of God to unite us to himself, which Mary right received. The catechism puts up Mary as a model of faith because what is faith? Faith is in a nutshell. Faith is saying yes to God. It's not necessary. It doesn't always feel good, it doesn't always look good, it doesn't always get you what you should like in this world, but what the coronation kind of adds to that, which I'm sure our viewers know it with a yes to Mary. And she's a model of faith. But what the coronation adds is that's actually glory.
Host
Yeah.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Like that. We have to train ourselves to see that that's the crown. The love of God is our crown. Being with him is our crown. And it's. I mean, we act like it's not all the time. We act like our crown is getting a promotion or, you know, having some worldly success. And so it does take, I think, meditating on this mystery can be that time where we meditate on what are the true crowns in my life. What is God trying to give the crown? God is trying to give me. He gave Jesus the crown of thorns and that led to the resurrection. So what is it really? That's my glory in life.
Host
And you just start thinking now more kind of holistically about Mary's life. And it was a life of poverty. We know it was a life of humility. It was A life of difficulty. Spent some years in Egypt, lost him in the temple. And then she had to watch her son go through his ministry, and then ultimately his death. And then she had to take kind of under her maternal care the apostles and the other disciples. And her son's gone. And you can imagine how much she would have missed him. And that her. It's such a good reminder during these mysteries to pray with that, to really think about what was the path that Mary walked, that Joseph walked, that Christ walked, because that is our path. And then this crown that we're talking about and that Paul references in his letters, it's real. It's not.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
Mm.
Host
It's not like Mary is interceding for us as Queen of heaven and earth. Right now. We can't see it, but it's real. And that when we pray to her, we are practicing that faith. We are practicing that faith. That something that I cannot see, Lord, I believe this is true, and I am acting on that belief. And that, I think, will strengthen our hope.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
And like many mothers, you know, a lot of her story is hidden. And then we can find lots about Mary in the Scriptures as we're paying attention. But just like in our real lives, right. Our mother's ever present, and she's often doing wonderful things, but we do have to take that time, that meditation, that time to notice her. And so, likewise with Mary, I often have students ask me, you know, if Mary was so wonderful and sinless and so humble, you know, why does no one seem to really notice her? And you're like, well, it turns out that being holy isn't really always that exciting all the time. And people don't necessarily notice it all the time. And so where the crown, contemplating Mary's crown is taking time to notice it, for one thing.
Host
Yeah. And it makes me think a lot. It's the year of St. Joseph, and St. Joseph was very humble and silent. And I always. I like to reflect on the hidden years of Mary and the holy family in Nazareth. And, you know, we see kind of the highlights, both positive and negative, of what's going on in the. In Jesus's ministry and before, but that there's just a long period of time of just a kind of humility and silence. And I really like following kind of this devotional path of Mary as Queen of Heaven. A really kind of spiritually fruitful meditation of that is how can we attend to, like, our daily duties and the small things and attend to our family as Mary did, and our friends and the visitation, trusting that that is the path to holiness, that that is the path to sanctity, and that that's the path that Mary walked and she is the exemplar of the Church.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
That's a great point.
Host
Yes. So, any other parting thoughts?
Dr. Elizabeth Klein
No. I mean, I love how you ended on the Hidden Life. I think that that's a beautiful thing to reflect on as you're meditating on this mystery about what really constitutes the crown of glory and where you find it and in your everyday life. Because that's really what Mary did and that's how she won the crown.
Host
Yeah. That's beautiful. And just you can pray with Revelation 12 and this woman that appears with the moon under her feet and on her head a crown of 12 stars, and that our Mother is alive and that she is crowned Queen of Heaven and Earth. And she is interceding for us, just as Bathsheba was, but in a far more perfect way. And she is helping us to live a faithful life to her Son. So thank you. Thank you so much for joining us. We pray that these discussions were fruitful. This concludes our series on the Glorious Mysteries of the Rosary. We will cover the mysteries that we have not covered yet, so don't worry about that. Please give us feedback in the comments below. We thank you so much for joining us. God bless.
Catholic Bible Study: Glorious Mysteries – Coronation of Mary
Hosted by Augustine Institute | Released on April 24, 2025
In the final installment of the five-part series on the Glorious Mysteries of the Rosary, the Augustine Institute delves into the Coronation of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Hosted by a representative from the Augustine Institute and featuring Dr. Elizabeth Klein, a professor at the Graduate School, the episode explores the theological foundations, scriptural bases, and profound spiritual implications of Mary's coronation as Queen of Heaven and Earth.
Dr. Elizabeth Klein begins by addressing the doctrinal belief that Mary, following her Assumption, is crowned as Queen of Heaven and Earth. She notes that while the Coronation of Mary isn't explicitly detailed in Scripture, the doctrine is deeply rooted in the Church's tradition and typological interpretations of Biblical narratives.
"Mary, after her assumption, is crowned as Queen of Heaven and earth."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [00:38]
The conversation highlights the Old Testament prefigurements, particularly the role of the queen mother in the ancient Near Eastern context. This role is exemplified by Bathsheba, the mother of King Solomon, whose position elevated significantly once her son ascended to the throne.
"If Jesus is the king and Mary is Jesus's mother, then why, what's going on with her being the queen?"
— Host [01:23]
Dr. Klein references 2 Kings 2:19, illustrating Bathsheba's elevated status when Solomon becomes king:
"Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak on his behalf... the king raised his seat for the king's mother, and she sat on his right."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [03:13]
This passage underscores the traditional role of the queen mother as a powerful intercessor and a respected figure within the royal court, laying the groundwork for understanding Mary's queenship.
The discussion transitions to Revelation 12, where Dr. Klein interprets the symbolic imagery of a woman clothed with the sun, crowned with twelve stars, and holding the moon under her feet:
"She has the crown of 12 stars representing the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [06:02]
This imagery is seen as a multifaceted representation of Mary:
The passage in Revelation 12:17 further emphasizes Mary's role:
"The dragon became furious with the woman who was crowned with 12 stars and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring..."
— Host [07:07]
Here, the "offspring" are interpreted as those who adhere to Jesus' commandments, highlighting Mary's intercessory role for the faithful.
Dr. Klein elaborates on the nature of Mary’s queenship, aligning it with the kingship of Christ. Unlike secular monarchies, both Jesus and Mary exemplify servant leadership characterized by humility, self-sacrifice, and love.
"Jesus shows us that that's actually more powerful. That's actually what causes conversion. That's actually the means of our salvation."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [10:59]
She references Augustine, who articulates that divine crowns are not based on human merit but on God's grace:
"What God will crown is not so much your own sort of your own works, but his own merits."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [12:08]
This perspective shifts the understanding of authority and power from worldly dominance to spiritual humility and obedience to God's will.
The hosts discuss how Mary's life, marked by humility and silent obedience, serves as a model for believers. Dr. Klein reflects on her personal journey from a convert's perspective, emphasizing Mary's acceptance of God's plan:
"Mary is not like the fourth person of the Trinity, but she's truly welcomed into the life of the Trinity, and so are we all."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [07:46]
The conversation underscores that Mary's coronation is both a future hope and a present reality, demonstrating the transformative power of faith and divine grace.
Highlighting the practical implications, the hosts encourage listeners to emulate Mary's humility and steadfast faith in their daily lives. Dr. Klein suggests that meditating on the Coronation Mystery through the Rosary helps believers internalize their own "royal priesthood" and inheritance of divine grace.
"When you're praying the Rosary, you're really taking on a sort of Marian mind and understanding that these mysteries are about Mary, but also about you as her offspring."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [08:25]
The hosts also draw parallels between Mary’s experience and the silent, humble lives many lead, advocating for a life of quiet faith and service as pathways to holiness.
In wrapping up the series, the hosts reflect on the journey through the Glorious Mysteries, emphasizing that Mary's Coronation encapsulates the culmination of her earthly life and her heavenly exaltation. They encourage listeners to continue meditating on these mysteries, integrating the lessons of humility, faith, and intercession into their spiritual practices.
"She is helping us to live a faithful life to her Son."
— Host [16:22]
Dr. Klein adds a final reflection on the hidden aspects of Mary's life, urging believers to recognize and honor the subtle yet profound ways in which Mary’s example shapes their own spiritual journeys.
Mary's Queenship: Rooted in Biblical typology, Mary’s role as Queen of Heaven and Earth reflects her position as the mother of the King, paralleling the Old Testament queen mother.
Scriptural Symbolism: Revelation 12 portrays Mary as both the historical mother of Jesus and a symbol of the Church, underscoring her intercessory role.
Servant Leadership: Mary's and Christ’s leadership models emphasize humility, love, and self-sacrifice over worldly power.
Practical Faith: Meditating on Mary’s coronation through the Rosary fosters personal spiritual growth and aligns believers with their divine inheritance.
Living the Mystery: Emulating Mary's humility and faithful obedience in daily life is essential for personal sanctification and participation in the Church’s mission.
"Mary, after her assumption, is crowned as Queen of Heaven and earth."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [00:38]
"She has the crown of 12 stars representing the 12 tribes of Israel and the 12 apostles."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [06:02]
"What God will crown is not so much your own sort of your own works, but his own merits."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [12:08]
"When you're praying the Rosary, you're really taking on a sort of Marian mind and understanding that these mysteries are about Mary, but also about you as her offspring."
— Dr. Elizabeth Klein [08:25]
"Mary is helping us to live a faithful life to her Son."
— Host [16:22]
This episode of Catholic Bible Study offers a profound exploration of Mary's Coronation, bridging Scriptural insights with practical applications for believers striving to live out their faith with humility and devotion.