EP 4 - The Handyman of West Texas

Summary

Podcast Summary: Johnathan Walton Media — EP 4: "The Handyman of West Texas"
Date: March 10, 2026
Host: Johnathan Walton
Guests: Evan Goldstein, Mickey (The Handyman)

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Episode Overview

In this provocative and unflinching fourth episode of “The Handyman of West Texas,” host Johnathan Walton and producer Evan Goldstein continue their deep-dive interview with Mickey, the infamous Midland “handyman-gigolo” whose clientele is comprised almost exclusively of wealthy, married West Texas housewives. The episode explores themes of risk, memory, fantasy, empathy, and boundaries, painting a complex picture of a world hidden in plain sight — and delving into both its psychological and explicit physical realities.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

The Evolution of Mickey's Unconventional "Handyman" Career

• Referral Culture Among Clients: The web of secrecy and mutual knowledge among housewives is highlighted:
  • “Very early on, it becomes obvious that a lot of these wealthy West Texas housewives know each other and are surreptitiously passing Mickey around like the classroom hamster.” (Jonathan Walton, 01:39)
• Business Dynamics and Risks: Most women contact Mickey under the guise of needing household repairs, even though actual repair work is rare (13:31–13:49).

The Sunk Cost Fallacy & Crossing Lines

• Explaining the Compulsion to Escalate: Evan brings in the concept of sunk cost fallacy to explain why these women, after crossing one moral or personal line (infidelity), may feel compelled to push further, even asking to film their encounters:
  • “…I've already gone this far and I'm banging the handyman. I've had a fantasy about being a porn star, so let me fulfill that. At the same time, like, I've already crossed this boundary. What's another one? It's Sunk Cost Fallacy.” (Evan Goldstein, 03:48)
• Jonathan ties this to wider human behavior:
  • “Sunk Cost Fallacy is a real thing, a powerful thing, a sneaky thing… instead of walking away, they think to themselves, I'm already this far in. What's another hundred bucks?” (Jonathan Walton, 04:40–05:19)

Recording Encounters and Managing Risk

• Some clients request videos, despite great risk:
  • “Why on earth would they be okay with Mickey shooting videos of their extramarital affairs?” (Jonathan Walton, 03:03)
  • “I mean, I'm a private person by nature and I respect people's privacy. And, you know, you're the only person that has seen these videos. No one's going to ever see them.” (Mickey, 03:35)

Memory, Routine, and Novelty (07:23–09:19)

• Blurring of Encounters: Mickey can recall only his first two sexual "jobs." Hundreds of subsequent ones blur together, explained through reduced memory encoding:
  • “It's kind of sad to say. I don't. After that, it kind of… it was a whirlwind kind of situation. I can't remember the third from the hundredth…” (Mickey, 07:23)
  • “Your brain files them away kind of like this…” (Evan Goldstein, 08:52)
• Science of Memory: Jonathan describes how adult brains save "space" by condensing repetitive experiences.

Mishaps and Professional Boundaries (14:05–17:19)

• Misreading Intent: Mickey describes an occasion when he mistakenly made a sexual advance on a client who only wanted handyman services:
  • “Apparently she was just a very friendly lady. You know, it was a friendly hug when she opened the door to me and I took that as a sign and apparently it was not.” (Mickey, 14:11)
  • He apologizes and resolves never to assume again, letting clients initiate advances (15:26–15:47).
  • Evan recounts his own similar mistaken-identity gaffe at a party for comic relief and relatability (16:06–16:56).

Sex, Physicality, and Consent

• Requests for Specific Sexual Acts:
  • Anal sex requests come up, which Mickey often tries to dissuade due to the physical mismatch:
    • “…it's like that from tip to shaft… there's no point while. Okay, at least your tips. No, the tip's just as big as the rest.” (Mickey, 19:05)
  • Mickey describes one determined client who succeeded after much gradual effort (19:25–20:04).

Dealing with Fetishes and Bizarre Requests

• Role Play and Outliers:
  • An elderly client requested a "daddy vs. naughty schoolgirl" scenario:
    • “She was much older than I was... She was in her 60s... She'd done bad, and she wanted to be disciplined.” (Mickey, 20:25–20:40)
  • Mickey explains finding something attractive in everyone:
    • “All women are attractive in one way or another. I got to find that attractiveness in that person because there's always gonna be something…” (Mickey, 21:06)
• Empathy and Focus on Client Pleasure:
  • Mickey often does not prioritize his own climax:
    • “They always finish. And I sometimes... 50% of the time, I don't. I'm focused on their pleasure, you know, I'm there to, you know, make their fantasy come true. I could care less what's going on for myself.” (Mickey, 21:31)
  • Evan is moved by Mickey’s empathy:
    • “That is kind of a beautiful thing and a profound thing you said just now. Every woman has something about them that's beautiful.” (Evan Goldstein, 25:04)

Mickey’s Sexual "Rules" and Refusals

• Firm Boundaries:
  • Not into pain, “gross stuff" (scat, golden showers outside showers) (26:28–26:45).
  • Light choking is common but strictly defined ("never squeezing," just "applying pressure with an open hand") (27:08–27:39).
• High Demand for Choking: Estimate that 75% of clients have asked for it (28:03–28:12).
• Refusing Dangerous or Painful Requests:
  • “This woman wanted me to punch her in the head... I am not gonna do that.” (Mickey, 28:49–29:18)
  • If a client insists on a request that crosses his lines, Mickey ends the session (29:49–29:58).

Ethical Reflections and Emotional Insights

• Repressed Desires & Marital Gaps:
  • “The biggest problem I see is people aren't honest... That's why so many couples are unhappy and they have to turn to someone, you know, like me, that will, hey, I'm going to live out my fantasies with him… It's impersonal, it's random, it's, you know, anonymous versus I can't talk to the person I live with every day.” (Mickey, 25:25)
  • Regret and empathy surface in discussions of boundaries, awkward encounters, and unmet needs.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Memory:
  “I can't remember the third from the hundredth or. Yeah, it's. They pretty much kind of all meshed into each other kind of thing.” (Mickey, 07:23)

• On Sunk Cost Fallacy:
  “It's how places like Las Vegas were built. Gamblers who are losing fortunes, instead of walking away, they think to themselves, I'm already this far in. What's another hundred bucks?” (Jonathan Walton, 04:40)

• On Respecting Client Privacy:
  “I'm a private person by nature and I respect people's privacy. And, you know, you're the only person that has seen these videos. No one's going to ever see them.” (Mickey, 03:35)

• On Empathy:
  “Every woman has something about them that's beautiful. And you just try to find that thing and focus on that. And that turns you on.” (Evan Goldstein, 25:04-25:16)

• On Consent and Error:
  “I'll never make that first move ever again.” (Mickey, 15:46)

• On Refusing Harmful Acts:
  “I'm not into pain, I'm not into gross stuff... There is. And I'm like, yeah, sorry, I don't do that... This woman wanted me to punch her in the head... I am not gonna do that.” (Mickey, 26:28–28:54)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:39 — The housewives' referral network and secrecy
• 03:03–03:35 — Risks of recording affairs and Mickey's stance on privacy
• 03:48–05:19 — Sunk Cost Fallacy explained
• 07:23–09:19 — Memory blurring and the science behind it
• 14:05–15:47 — Mickey’s mishap with an uninitiated client and lessons learned on consent
• 19:05–20:04 — Physical description and sexual limitations; “from tip to shaft”
• 20:25–21:06 — Outlier fetishes: “Daddy” and “schoolgirl” roleplay
• 25:04–26:11 — Emphasis on empathy and unmet emotional needs in clients
• 26:28–27:39 — Mickey’s sexual boundaries and detailed intake on choking
• 28:49–29:58 — Refusing dangerous or painful sexual requests

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Tone, Language, and Style

• The episode intertwines humor, clinical analysis, and candid, sometimes graphic, storytelling.
• All speakers (especially Mickey and Evan) are at turns irreverent and empathetic, never shying away from explicit details, but always circling back to issues of consent, emotional honesty, and the fundamental human yearning for understanding and connection.
• Jonathan Walton acts as narrator and guide, offering background, psychological insights, and context.

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In Summary

This episode unpacks the emotional, physical, and psychological landscape of Mickey's life as a “handyman” to the West Texas elite. It contemplates why people escalate risky behavior, how memory shapes perceptions of unusual jobs, the centrality of empathy and boundaries in transactional intimacy, and the often-unspoken needs that drive people to seek satisfaction outside marriage. Sensational yet sensitively handled, “From Tip to Shaft” balances salacious details with genuine human insight, making it a revealing listen for anyone intrigued by secret worlds, forbidden fantasies, or the quirks of adult psychology.

Transcript

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[Jonathan Walton]

previously on the Handyman of West Texas.

[Evan Goldstein]

So you've been doing this work for five years?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

On and off, yes.

[Evan Goldstein]

If you had to put a number on it. How many women have hired you as a handyman, quote unquote, and then ended up paying you for sex?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I have no idea. But it's. It's.

[Evan Goldstein]

Is it hundreds?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yes.

[Jonathan Walton]

And very early on, it becomes obvious that a lot of these wealthy West Texas housewives know each other and are surreptitiously passing Mickey around like the classroom hamster.

[Evan Goldstein]

If you're not asking for money, how do they all give you the same amount? Unless someone gave them a heads up like, hey, it's 200 bucks.

[Jonathan Walton]

And as business starts booming, Mickey begins fielding some really disturbing requests from several of these wealthy housewives who are now pushing him into exceedingly dangerous territory.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

This woman wanted me to punch her in the head and I was like,

[Jonathan Walton]

wanted you to punch her in the head?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

In the head. She's like, punch me in the back of the head.

[Jonathan Walton]

I'm jonathan walton, and this is the handyman of west texas. Episode four, from tip to shaft.

[Evan Goldstein]

So this has to be a woman you've seen many times?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yes.

[Jonathan Walton]

Mickey and I are seated across from each other and I just can't tear myself away from swiping through all the pictures and videos on his phone that these housewives ask him to record of their time together.

[Evan Goldstein]

What do they do with these Videos.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I never ask. It's. It's one of those things like, I care less what you do with it. You know, I'm not shy.

[Jonathan Walton]

No, you're not shy. Keep in mind, these are all women with a lot to lose. They're married and they don't work, so they are financially dependent on their breadwinning oil executive husbands. Why on earth would they be okay with Mickey shooting videos of their extramarital affairs? They're already taking such a huge risk inviting this handyman into their home for sex. Why make things even riskier by recording it all?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I mean, I'm a private person by nature and I respect people's privacy. And, you know, you're the only person that has seen these videos. No one's going to ever see them. You know, they're. They're just on my phone and they have their versions of it.

[Evan Goldstein]

Why do you think. I mean, I'm just amazed that they would ask you to film them. Like, maybe it has something to do with this idea that, listen, I've already gone this far and I'm banging the handyman. I've had a fantasy about being a porn star, so let me fulfill that. At the same time, like, I've already crossed this boundary. What's another one? It's Sunk Cost Fallacy. In a weird way, which, you know, in my other life, I'm a con artist expert. I wrote a book about how to not get scammed. I got scammed and got justice. And there's a principle called Sunk Cost Fallacy where you've done so much already up until this point. What's a little more like with cons? You've given them so much money and believed so many lies already. What's another lie? You've invested so much of your resources and your belief and your blood and your sweat and your tears into something. What's a little more.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah,

[Jonathan Walton]

Sunk Cost Fallacy is a real thing, a powerful thing, a sneaky thing. It's how places like Las Vegas were built. Gamblers who are losing fortunes, instead of walking away, they think to themselves, I'm already this far in. What's another hundred bucks? Then they keep playing and they keep losing until they're broke and Las Vegas fills another casino.

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[Jonathan Walton]

The truth of the matter is we are all susceptible to Sunk Cost Fallacy in every aspect of life. How many times have you been watching A really bad movie. And instead of turning it off, you just keep watching. You say to yourself, I'm already a half hour in. I might as well keep going. Maybe it'll get good. And you watch that horrible movie until the very end. That's sunk cost Fallacy.

[Evan Goldstein]

So maybe there's an element of sunk cost fallacy with these women. They're like, I'm already calling a handyman over to have sex with me. What's. I want to film it now. I want that fantasy.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I've already crossed that line. Yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah, I've crossed that line. It's just a little further. And do they. What do they do with these videos?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Well, see, and. And that. That was their concern, you know, they were. They were basically asking permission, and I said, you could do whatever the hell you want with it. They've never shared that with me, what they're going to do with it, but I imagine have done with it. I mean, there's. I'm sure there's tons of videos out there and, you know, circulating. I have no idea.

[Evan Goldstein]

Wow. So they might have an OnlyFans page and you have no idea.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, because I've never. This sounds strange. I've never been. I've heard of OnlyFans. I've never been. I've never seen what OnlyFans is. I don't even. Yeah, yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

Are you on Instagram?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I have nothing. I literally have nothing.

[Evan Goldstein]

You have no social media.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Zero.

[Jonathan Walton]

But the racy contents of Mickey's cell phone would definitely make for a lot of viral posts on all kinds of social media platforms.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

On.

[Jonathan Walton]

I'm finding it hard to stop scrolling.

[Evan Goldstein]

I'm handing Mickey back his phone. I think. I think I've seen enough.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It looks like you're blushing.

[Jonathan Walton]

I totally am.

[Evan Goldstein]

So after that second housewife called you. So she answers the door in a negligee. So you know, you know that she knows that you know that she knows what's going down. After that whole thing. Do you remember the third, you know, or is it a blur?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It's kind of sad to say. I don't. After that, it kind of. It was a whirlwind kind of situation. I can't remember the third from the hundredth or. Yeah, it's. They pretty much kind of all meshed into each other kind of thing. I remember distinct situations, and somewhere in between, after the second one, it was more women, more places, more, you know, it kind of started to get to the point that everything looked the same, you know, the women, the houses, the situation, the intro, the yeah, it pretty much followed the same script almost. And I have no doubt that the first one started it all. You know, she told her friend that friend told a friend. Yeah, because they pretty much all look the same. Same the setup, the calls, the initial meet, all of it.

[Jonathan Walton]

There's actually a scientific reason for why Mickey can only remember his first two handyman sexual encounters and not the hundreds of others that followed. It's a phenomenon called reduced memory encoding, and it happens to all of us as we age. Because adult life is less filled with novel events, the brain creates fewer unique memories. When you're a kid, everything is new and exciting, and your brain records details of every single new event. But as you age and start doing the same thing over and over again,

[Evan Goldstein]

you don't remember all these women because it's kind of the same. Answer the door, blah. Have sex, get the money, go answer the door, blah. So if nothing unusual happens, what your brain does to save space, almost like a of it. Your brain like a big computer, and you don't want to take up all the space with junk. So what. What your brain does to save space is it files away those routines as one clip. Your brain has filed them away kind of like this.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

That actually makes a lot of sense.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I was trying to reason it, you

[Evan Goldstein]

know, why am I forgetting all these limbs?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I'm such a slut that I can't, you know, that I. I can't remember all these. I was trying know, Mickey, get it together in my butt. But that makes sense.

[Jonathan Walton]

But even as an adult, some days are still very memorable.

[Evan Goldstein]

You had a birthday recently. Happy birthday.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Thank you.

[Evan Goldstein]

You're 50.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I am.

[Jonathan Walton]

Me too.

[Evan Goldstein]

Welcome to the 50s.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

If you look at me, I don't look 50.

[Evan Goldstein]

No, you don't look 50.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

And the job that I have keeps me in pretty good shape because out

[Evan Goldstein]

in the oil field, that's like hard effing work.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. A physical job.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

So it's a. It's probably a lot.

[Evan Goldstein]

I can imagine. You eat a lot.

[Jonathan Walton]

You have to.

[Evan Goldstein]

Or you. You waste away.

[Jonathan Walton]

But there are times working in the oil field, Mickey sits on his ass all day waiting to work, waiting for the weather to clear.

[TJ Dominguez]

I'm here at a truck stop off FM 1788 here in Odessa. This parking lot filled with snow and ice, and it's dangerous conditions that have a lot of these truck drivers hunting, anchored down for who knows how long.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It snowed. It snowed. They shut us down.

[Evan Goldstein]

When does it warm up in Midland?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It'll warm up. Next week is a this is a freak storm that came through.

[Evan Goldstein]

We shut the oil. Does the oil, does the oil freeze in this?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

If you notice, the price of oil last week or this week has gone up considerably. It was below 60 a barrel and now it's like 64 because we stopped production.

[Evan Goldstein]

The winter storm.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

We couldn't frack.

[Evan Goldstein]

Couldn't frack.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Nothing happens to the oil. Oil's, you know, tens of thousands of feet under. It's not going to be affected by the weather up top. But the logistics of the trucks and the supplies that we get, they can't go on the roads because they were iced over.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Walton]

It's a delicate duality, the life of Mickey the oil fracker moonlighting as a handyman gigolo. And as the years go by and as Mickey develops this reputation in certain circles, certain secret circles in and around Midland, Texas, as this well hung handyman who'll seal your gaps for 200 bucks a pop, the premise for all of these West Texas housewives inviting him into their homes remains the same. Did you know Fast Growing Trees is America's largest and most trusted online nursery with thousands of trees and plants and over 2 million happy customers. They have all the plants your yard or home needs, including fruit trees, privacy trees, flowering trees, shrubs and houseplants, all grown with care and guaranteed to arrive healthy. It's like your local nursery, but anywhere you live with more plants than you'll find anywhere else. Fast Growing Trees makes it easy to get your dream yard. Just click, order, grow and get healthy, thriving plants delivered to your door. I bought this incredible ficus tree for our living room and let me tell you, it arrived lush and green and it really brightens up our space. Right now they have great deals on spring planting essentials, up to half off on select plants. And listeners to our show get 20% off their first purchase when using the code Walton at checkout. That's an additional 20% off at fast growing trees.com using the code Walton at checkout. Fast growing trees.com code Walton. Now is the perfect time to plant. Let's grow together. Use Walton to save today. Offers valid for a limited time. Terms and conditions may apply.

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[Evan Goldstein]

No woman is calling saying, hey, can you come have sex with me? They're all calling, hey, can you fix this? Can you fix that?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

And then it's always under the guise of our handyman work. It was. It was a rarity that I would actually go over and fix something. I would need any of the tools that I brought. Wow.

[Evan Goldstein]

But you'd always bring your tools, just. Yeah, because it happens.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I'm not going to assume. And, you know, the worst thing I wanted was to walk into a situation where it was a little legitimate job and I assumed the other and started, you know, making advances to be rebuffed. I was going to put myself in that situation again.

[Jonathan Walton]

He wasn't going to put himself in that situation again because it actually did happen.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, once. It was once that. It was terrible because apparently she was just a very friendly lady. You know, it was a friendly hug when she opened the door to me and I took that as a sign and apparently it was not. And so were going throughout her house, and she's like, well, let me show you. And she's walking ahead of me, and I put my hand on her hip and a light touch. And she turned around and, like, slapped my hand away. And I was like, oh, shit, I just fucked up. Oh, my God. And she gave me this look.

[Evan Goldstein]

Was it her hip or her butt?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It was very close. It was the border. And it was a light touch that shouldn't have happened because apparently that's not what was going on. And I misread the situation. She gave me a hug when I met her.

[Evan Goldstein]

I know that is weird. Like, you don't hug the handyman.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Exactly. Well, apparently she did.

[Evan Goldstein]

She's a hugger. She's a hugger.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. And so she slapped your hand away? She slapped my hand away. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Evan Goldstein]

Did she say anything?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

She just looked at me, like, in shock, and I was like, I'm so sorry, and, oh, you're a good guy.

[Evan Goldstein]

You apologized.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, well, because I was petrified she

[Evan Goldstein]

might call the cops.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Exactly.

[Jonathan Walton]

Jesus.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

And then so, you know, she, I guess accepted the apology and just kind of gave. Gave me a look and we. I actually did the work that she needed done. But, yeah, it was awkward, to say the least. I misread that really badly. Never happened again after that. I was like, I will never make that first move ever again.

[Evan Goldstein]

Wow.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

That was. Yeah, I was. It was probably, you know, maybe a dozen. Couple. Dozen women in. Right.

[Evan Goldstein]

So you just got comfortable, like.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, I thought I knew the lay of the land. And, yeah, you know, I was like, I know what's going on. Yeah. And, yeah, I was. I was mistaken that time. I was, like, regrettable.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah. I have the gay counterpart to that story. It happened to me. You know, my husband works at this. There are a lot of these, like, you know, fancy events. And I was at one of them. This was years ago. And my husband was wearing a suit, like a dark suit. And he was at the party. He said hello to me, and he was, like, working, and I was just, you know, talking to people. And I saw my husband standing, like, by the bar from the. From behind. So I know it's him. So I go up and I put my hand on his butt, like, to say hi, like, it's me, and it wasn't my husband. He turns around, he's like, oh. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. I thought you were. Was someone else. So I had, you know, had my hand on the stranger's butt for five seconds, like, grabbing it.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

So I know how you feel. Like, whoa. I'm not. And that's the same thing I thought. I'm never doing that again. I'm never assuming. So I'm looking them in the eyes, you know, is that my husband? But, yeah, that is a crazy feeling of like, you violated someone.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

Luckily she didn't call the cops.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Luckily. Because I was petrified that that was what was going to happen.

[Evan Goldstein]

But then you double down. Like, I'm not. I'm letting them touch me.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. Always. I. I always, you know, stand back and assume. Hey, this is a legitimate inquiry. They need something fixed until, you know, I learn otherwise.

[Evan Goldstein]

Has there ever been a housewife who changed your mind?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

No, I. I think the closest I've come to that is women who've made an appointment and canceled before I even got there. So I've had several of those. You know, they change their mind, they get cold feet. They, you know, like, what am I doing? Kind of.

[Evan Goldstein]

I know.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I mean, it's kind of crazy, but every time I've actually arrived at a place, it's gone to completion, let's say.

[Jonathan Walton]

And in some cases, before that point of completion is reached, in the heat of the moment, these housewives start biting off more than they can chew.

[Evan Goldstein]

Is anal sex with women. Like, do they want anal sex?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Some have requested And I always try to dissuade them from that notion

[Evan Goldstein]

for obvious reasons.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. I'm telling them, like, this is not. I was like, this is not going to end well for you, you know. Yeah. I try to, as as much as I can, dissuade them from that notion that this will not be something that they'll enjoy. I was like, this is going to be painful. I was like, you know, I'm all about giving pleasure, and this will not be pleasurable for you, you know, if even possible.

[Evan Goldstein]

So have they went along anyway? And you tried.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

There's been a couple, and. Yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

You couldn't get it in?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

No, it was. It was, you know, just what I had told them. I was like, this is going to be, you know, an ordeal.

[Evan Goldstein]

The visual is Coca Cola can thickness.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Well, and the problem is, it's like that from tip to shaft. It's not like, you know, problem. You know, it's tip to shaft. Yeah, it's thick from beginning to end. And so, yeah, there is no point while. Okay, at least your tips. No, the tip's just as big as the rest. So.

[Evan Goldstein]

So have there been any women who've gone ahead anyway and got it in 1, 1, 1. And did she enjoy it eventually or did she.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Did. I guess that was her thing. And she had done it before. Yeah, but, yeah, she was trained. Yeah, but initially she still struggled. You know, it took a while, and it was a very small stepping, you know, like millimeter by millimeter, like, okay, wait, wait, hold on. And she had to breathe. Okay, a little more. And, yeah, she was determined. Yeah, she was determined. She eventually took it all, but it took. It was a minute before we got to that point. Once I was fully in, though, then she took like a champ.

[Jonathan Walton]

And while these housewives who hire Mickey have a lot in common and essentially all want the same thing from him, there are outliers worth mentioning who want other things entirely.

[Evan Goldstein]

I imagine you get a lot of weird requests.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Several weird ones.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah, give me some weird ones. What's the strangest thing a woman ever asked you to do or plan, play or be?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

The weird one was, it was very strange. She wanted me to be daddy. And she was a naughty school girl, but she was much older than I was, so that was kind of odd, you know.

[Evan Goldstein]

How old was she?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

She was in her 60s.

[Evan Goldstein]

She wanted you to be her daddy.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. And she. She'd done bad, and she wanted to be disciplined. And I was like, I'm okay with role play. You know, that's to a point to an extent, there's certain things where I draw the line, but, you know, that one was odd because she was really old and you know, some people don't age well. She did not age well. She was probably in her 60s, easily looked in her 70s.

[Evan Goldstein]

Wow. And what do you do in that situation?

[Jonathan Walton]

Can you perform?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

It's a little bit more difficult, but I got to put my. All women are attractive in one way or another. I got to find that attractiveness in that person because there's always gonna be something, you know, that I can go to hopefully and focus on and focus on.

[Evan Goldstein]

So you can get an erection. Even with a 70 something year old woman. You got an erection and performed. Did you finish?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

No.

[Evan Goldstein]

You didn't finish? She finished.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Oh, she finishes. They always finish. And I sometimes actually, I'd say 50% of the time, I don't.

[Evan Goldstein]

When you're working.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, yeah, I'm focused on their pleasure, you know, I'm there to, you know, make their fantasy come true. You know, I could care less what's going on for myself. I'm not, I'm not there for myself. You know, as most guys in most situations are, you know, they're concerned about getting theirs and getting out.

[Evan Goldstein]

You know, you're the opposite. You came to give pleasure and get out.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, and whether I get or not, I'm gonna get it in one way or another. I'm receiving pleasure. Just, you know, being intimate with someone.

[Evan Goldstein]

And you're getting money.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, that helps. So, you know, I'd say about 50% of the time, I never finish. So.

[Evan Goldstein]

So you show up and you're not immediately attracted, what do you do?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I, I go forward and see where, where it leads. Because I don't know their intentions at first. I have a pretty good idea of their intentions, but I always wait to see and I see how it unfolds. You know, even someone that's not particularly attractive at first physically, you know, the situation may become, you know, like it's a hot situation. Exactly. The way they, the way they set it up, the way they, you know, if it's a seduction kind of scene, then yeah, that, that could be hot in itself. You know, regardless of the subject, you know, I. It helps. It definitely helps. And in that situation, it helped because she wanted to do a naughty little schoolgirl thing and she had a sexy little outfit that didn't belong on her. But.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah, but you got it turned you on.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Oh, yeah.

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[Evan Goldstein]

That is kind of a beautiful thing and a profound thing you said just now. Every woman has something about them that's beautiful.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Oh, yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

And you just try to find that thing and focus on that. And that turns you on.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Definitely.

[Evan Goldstein]

Wow. You should write a book, man. Or give, like, couples counseling. That's a beautiful. And it's true. If you focus on the good, you can find the good.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

The biggest problem I see is people aren't honest. And they might have these repressed fantasies, they might have all these thoughts, but they won't admit to them. So you can't, you can't have a therapeutic, you know, catharsis without being honest with yourself, with your partner, with. And that's why so many couples are unhappy and they have to turn to someone, you know, like me, that will, hey, I'm going to live out my fantasies with him because I don't know him. He's. It's impersonal, it's random, it's, you know, anonymous versus I can't Talk to the person I live with every day. Which is sad, but that's kind of.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

How it is.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah, no, it is. Absolutely.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

So I, I, I, I could be a therapist, but no one listens, so.

[Jonathan Walton]

And while Mickey is happy to play therapist or play a daddy punishing a 70 year old schoolgirl, there are things he refuses to do and boundaries he does not cross.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

You know, I, I have just a very short list of rules that I have that I will not do. I'm not into pain, I'm not into gross stuff. And, and what's gross, gross stuff is like scat or golden showers or like pee and poop.

[Evan Goldstein]

Do women want to be peed and

[Mickey (Handyman)]

pooped on and pee. I will make an exception if we're in a shower setting. It's like, because even that's kind of weird to me. I'm like, okay, you know, some women piss on my face. I was like, okay, you know, I don't know what that does for you, but I'll do it in a shower. I'm not going to do it on your bed. That's, you know, that's, and then have sex on the same bed. No, that's not going to happen.

[Evan Goldstein]

I agree. That grosses me out too. But there are people into it.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

There is. And I'm like, yeah, sorry, I don't do that. And pain. You know, people like, I want you to hurt me. I was like, yeah, I'm not going to hurt you. You know, I'm all about pleasure. And some women want light choking, spanking, hair pulling, that kind of stuff.

[Jonathan Walton]

And how do you define light choking?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Light choking is, you're not leaving any marks.

[Evan Goldstein]

Okay.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

You know, you're squeezing their neck, not squeezing. So that's, that's where people, it's, and I had to learn this.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah, teach me, teach me how to choke a woman.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Mickey, you have your, your hand never squeezes. It's an open hand and you're just applying pressure on the neck. You're just using your body weight to apply pressure. You're not squeezing and choking them. Actually. You're just kind of cutting off airway to, to an extent. And you know, it's, it's for, for whatever reason, there's a large percentage of women who like that.

[Jonathan Walton]

Really?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. Large, Large. I'd say, say easily 75% of the women have asked for that.

[Evan Goldstein]

For light choking or light choking. Choking.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

They say choking.

[Evan Goldstein]

You're going to stop. You're not going to like choke?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah, I'm not going to like, yeah, no, One's passing out.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Walton]

God, who knew?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

No, I didn't know. Midland, Texas, it's everywhere, actually. It's just the microcosm of Midland was where, you know, I was exposed. Exposed to it all. But it's as I've traveled and been in different areas. It's the same everywhere. It's the same everywhere. It's just more repressed in other places than others.

[Evan Goldstein]

Have you had requests from women that you said, no, I'm not doing that?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yes.

[Evan Goldstein]

Give me some examples.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

This woman wanted me to punch her in the head. And I was like, they wanted you

[Jonathan Walton]

to punch her in the head?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

In the head. She's like, punch me in the back of the head.

[Jonathan Walton]

Colloquially, it's called a donkey punch, a phrase that originates from a 1920s slang term for someone using a small, steam powered logging wench called a donkey that they'd punch to operate.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

I was like, I am not gonna do that. She's like, it's okay. I want you to, like, while you're.

[Evan Goldstein]

While you're doggy style.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah.

[Evan Goldstein]

Punch her in the back of the head.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. That's what she wanted. I said, yeah, I'm not gonna do that. You know, I'm not. That's. That's not my thing. What are you crazy? And, I mean, I shouldn't judge, but that sounds crazy to me.

[Evan Goldstein]

It does. Because it sounds painful.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

Yeah. I was like, why would I do that? What would you get out of that? So, yeah, I don't. I don't do that.

[Evan Goldstein]

Was she upset?

[Mickey (Handyman)]

She was, you know, she's like, please. You know, she's. She got you to punch. Yeah. And I was like, yeah. At that point, I was turned off. I was like, yeah, this. It's over. Yeah. We got to call it quits.

[Evan Goldstein]

Yeah.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

And she was upset that, you know, I ended the session, but I was like, yeah, this is obviously something you're into that I'm not. I'm not going to do that. So.

[Jonathan Walton]

So next time on the Handyman of West Texas, we'll explain exactly why some of these housewives would want to be punched in the back of the head during sex. And we'll get into a bunch of other crazy stuff that happens to Mickey on and off the job.

[Evan Goldstein]

Have you ever seen any of these housewives or their husbands in public after.

[Mickey (Handyman)]

A couple times.

[Jonathan Walton]

And while you're waiting on the next episode of Handyman to drop, why not binge my other two podcast series that are fully out right now on the Jonathan Walton Media feed? I mean, only if you haven't already. The first one is called Cocaine Air. Back in the 1980s in sunny South Florida, TJ Dominguez is leading a double life.

[TJ Dominguez]

By day, I owned and operated the largest Lamborghini dealership in the world. But by night, I flew tons of cocaine from Colombia for Pablo Escobar.

[Jonathan Walton]

This is the greatest story that's never been told because TJ's been in prison.

[Evan Goldstein]

You're out of prison, what, two days now?

[Jonathan Walton]

Yeah, three days.

[Evan Goldstein]

And here we are talking.

[Jonathan Walton]

Adjusted for inflation, TJ's bringing in $100 million every month. He's got dozens of mansions and airplanes and boats. He even has a pet mountain lion named Top Cat. But TJ is surrounded by people trying to kill him.

[TJ Dominguez]

So next thing I know, I get kidnapped. And then he hits me with a gun. I got three or four of these guys around me. Here's what I said to him. Go ahead, kill me, I said. I'm ready to die.

[Jonathan Walton]

Listen to Cocaine Air wherever you get your podcasts. My other series that's fully out now is called the Quarterback and the Con Artist. When retired NFL quarterback Eric Kramer checks himself into a motel room, puts a gun to his head and pulls the trigger, he thinks all his problems will be over. But when Eric survives, he's got the brain capacity of a six year old, and a tall blonde con woman swoops in, secretly marries him, and starts bleeding him dry.

[Evan Goldstein]

The secret marriage was a way to

[Mickey (Handyman)]

keep her taking his money, and the

[Jonathan Walton]

law is on her side.

[Evan Goldstein]

They're married. What's his is hers, what's hers is his.

[Jonathan Walton]

Listen to the Quarterback and the Con Artist wherever you get your podcasts. The Handyman of West Texas was created, written and hosted by me, Jonathan Walton for Jonathan Walton Media Executive Producer, Producer Evan Goldstein. All sound design and editing was done by Jimmy o'. Holligan. Make sure you're subscribed to Jonathan Walton Media so you can get alerts when new episodes drop and new series. And if you've got a great story that you think deserves its own podcast, pitch it to me@Jonathan Walton.com. This episode is brought to you by Progressive Insurance. You chose to hit play on this podcast today. Smart Choice make another Smart Choice with Auto Quote Explorer to compare rates from multiple car insurance companies all at once. Try [e-mail] Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates not available in all states or situations. Prices vary based on how you buy.