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Lane (Producer)
The. Hey there, everybody. Welcome to the third, I guess, bonus episode of Crimeless. Very special this week because, as you heard, if you listened to this week's episode, we had our first ever guest. That guest was a bird. That bird was a parrot. And we unfortunately had to edit it down. And we felt like for the small fraction of you that need to hear more from that parrot, Shamrock, we're gonna release the tapes. I was about to say unedited. It's still gonna be edited. The extended version of our interview with Shamrock. And so I wanted to chat briefly with producer Lane to learn a little bit more about how we found this bird. So, Lane, how did we find this bird?
Podcast Host
At first I was like, do I know any birds personally? And I don't know any birds. I don't know anyone who owns a bird. And without giving it away to you guys, I couldn't ask the greater campside universe. So my husband's a pro wrestling fan, and an AEW wrestler named Kris Statlander was in Chicago, and she, like, just went by the Greater Chicago Caged Bird Society, and they posted on their Instagram, and because of the algorithm, we got a photo of Kris Statlander with a bird at this rescue. And I was like, I'll just send them an email, see if they're available. Turns out they were. And Andrew, the handler, the bird handler, was very game to come on and share Shamrock with us.
Lane (Producer)
That was a very scientific process you just described. Yeah, it was a little bit of luck, a little bit of algorithm.
Podcast Host
All heart.
Lane (Producer)
All heart, exactly. Mostly heart, I would say. And I feel like especially well timed. Although you didn't plan this. Once again, luck playing in our favor a little bit here. This interview with Shamrock is actually being released on the week of St. Patrick's Day. And so what kind of bird did. What is Shamrock again?
Podcast Host
She's a yellow naped Amazon.
Lane (Producer)
So, Andrew, tell us about her handler. Andrew?
Podcast Host
Yeah, his name's Andrew Earnrider. He's a volunteer from the Greater Chicago Cage Bird Society and Rescue. He and his partner have been volunteering there for a while, for a couple years. And they sometimes foster birds, and Shamrock was one of their fosters. A fun update. Shamrock was adopted.
Lane (Producer)
Oh, great. So Shamrock has a home, A permanent home.
Podcast Host
Yeah, yeah.
Lane (Producer)
I did know that parrots live a long time, but we learned that this species can live to be 70, actually more than almost any other. Maybe any other pet species. I totally understand why there's a rescue, because these birds must outlive their Owners all the time. So you have end up with birds that don't have a place to live because their owners die, right?
Podcast Host
Yeah, they outlive them. I think Andrew said that Shamrock came from a home like an old woman who lived with her adult son. And so Shamrock will often perform one side of a phone conversation. She'll say, ryan, which I think was the former owner's son. So if there's Orion listening, Shermach's in
Lane (Producer)
good hands now and is becoming a star. Is becoming a star right before our eyes. But this is a podcast right before our ears. In all seriousness, it's a great cause. Like I said, I did not know that this was a problem, but it makes total sense that there's probably a lot of birds in America, and not just in America, around the world, that need homes because their owners died. Because these birds live a long time. This must also happen with, like, Galapagos, giant turtles. Tortoises.
Podcast Host
Yeah, probably less so. I don't. I don't know any tortoises. Do you?
Lane (Producer)
I do know one person that has. I don't know if it's a Galapagos tortoise, but it's a. It's a tortoise. And I have to imagine in that community this is also an issue. I also imagine that they are much less good on podcasts.
Podcast Host
Yeah, less vocal, for sure. More of a silent, silent guest.
Lane (Producer)
Chomp on lettuce.
Podcast Host
Yawn, perhaps.
Lane (Producer)
All right, without further ado, here is our extended conversation with Shamrock, the beautiful parrot that I've already forgotten what species it was.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Lame.
Podcast Host
A yellow Nate's Amazon.
Lane (Producer)
Yellow naped Amazon. All right, Shamrock, take it away.
Podcast Host
She's. She's texting me now. Or her assistant's texting me now.
Lane (Producer)
It's definitely a parrot. Or it's an animal of some kind, obviously. But what other animal could possibly participate in a game? That's what I would like to know.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
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Podcast Host
There she is.
Lane (Producer)
Rory, look.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, no.
Podcast Host
This is Shamrock.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Shamrock.
Podcast Host
Hello.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Hello.
Lane (Producer)
Okay.
Podcast Host
Yeah, Shamrock. Shamrock's my neighbor. She lives in Chicago.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Hi, Shamrock.
Lane (Producer)
Oh.
Podcast Host
Oh, yeah. That's a really good point. Shamrock.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Shamrock, is there anything you want to. You want to ask us when you said Q and A Lane, are we asking Shamrock or Shamrock asking us?
Podcast Host
Either way, if you have some questions for her. She knows a lot about parrots.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, Shamrock, do you feel if you were ever going to participate in a criminal activity, you would be on the side of the criminal or on the side of justice? That's What? I thought. I thought you'd give me sort of a velociraptor style response.
Podcast Host
Josh, do you have any questions for Shamrock?
Lane (Producer)
Shamrock, what kind of bird are you?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
What if just in a crystal clear voice, Shamrock was like, rory, I don't care for your stand up, and I have to live with that,
Lane (Producer)
Rory. I'm more of a Dane cook parrot.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
I like Dane.
Podcast Host
Oh, all right.
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Lane (Producer)
So, Rory, you want to describe Shamrock to the people who don't have video.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
So everyone who doesn't have video, you're missing out on a wildly vibrant green and yellow, really beautiful. I see where Shamrock comes from. Beautiful parrot. The eyes, the pupils keep expanding and dilating and whatever the opposite of dilating is. Closing, I guess. And I also like that this owner provides Shamrock with a great deal of freedom. There's not a lot of birds you see on top of the cage, but Shamrock has earned this freedom. I can tell.
Lane (Producer)
Can Shamrock. Shamrock, can you do a voice for us?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
What is your name? What is your name? I gotta say, when a. When a parrot is kind of upside down, you interpret their facial features differently and they look so alien.
Lane (Producer)
Yeah, it's true.
Podcast Host
Shamrock's really engaged in this, though.
Lane (Producer)
Shamrock, A lot of eye contact.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
20 words or less. What are your feelings on Burning Man?
Podcast Host
Nope. So Shamrock's a yellow named Amazon parrot. Oh, okay. And holding the phone is her assistant, Andrew.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Thank you, Andrew.
Podcast Host
Andrew's a volunteer from the Greater Chicago Cage Bird Rescue.
Lane (Producer)
I feel like he's saying something to us.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
What if it told us, like, the. The year that Earth is going to explode? We're like, oh, my God. Shamrock. Shamrock. Who told you?
Lane (Producer)
His ancestors, the dinosaurs.
Podcast Host
I have some sound effects that maybe Shermack will respond to.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, yeah, let's see how that goes.
Podcast Host
Can you hear this?
Lane (Producer)
Okay, let's try it. Whoa, he's fluffing up his feathers now. Oh, well done.
Podcast Host
He really that do anything Shamrock for you?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
He just yells out, answer the fucking phone. Okay, Shamrock. Very Chicago of you.
Lane (Producer)
Wait, Let's see if we can do that again with a different sound. Oh, wait, wait, wait.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Yes, That's Shamrock.
Lane (Producer)
Is that him?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Is Shamrock. Is there any. Is there a way Shamrock's interpreting that ring as a bird call of some sort and is like to communicate back to it. God. I ask deep questions. We all agree. I ask super deep questions.
Lane (Producer)
Yeah. He said he. He. That's what I. That's what I often say. I believe he said yes. Oh, he's come. He's Coming closer. He's coming closer to the camera.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, that was Shamrock. Got a little upset with us right there.
Podcast Host
Dinosaur Shamrock. Do you guys have any questions for the human behind the phone?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Andrew, how long have you been caring for Shamrock here?
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Andrew (Bird Handler)
we've had a Shamrock, like, three weeks now. She came to the shelter from
Podcast Host
an
Andrew (Bird Handler)
older owner that can no longer take care of her.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Okay.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
So we're just helping her acclimate to a new surrounding before she goes into the general shelter.
Lane (Producer)
Is she saying something right now?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Yeah, I mean, it's mostly nonsense. These birds just pick up what they hear. So a lot of times it's like one sided phone conversations from their previous owners. So she's. She's just pretending like she's talking.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Is it true that she could, like, sort of work her voice into sounding very identical to a human's or whoever's talking? Yeah, okay.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Oh, yeah, like the. I definitely can tell that she used to live with an older lady and then, like an adult son, and the son was named Ryan. Because at night, when she wants attention, she'll just start yelling and she'll go, right, Ryan. Like an old lady.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, my gosh. That's fascinating.
Lane (Producer)
It seems like he's just saying something right now. Also. Apologies, Shamrock. I was calling you a he.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
It's okay. They're very hard to tell apart.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
I actually was able to tell. I don't want to talk about how good I am at distinguishing different birds and stuff. That's not what this show's about. But I was able to tell
Lane (Producer)
you did. I knew that about you.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
You knew?
Lane (Producer)
I was very educated when it came to bird sex.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Ornitholog. Ornithologically. Shamrock. Can you say your name? Shamrock. Shamrock.
Lane (Producer)
Sometimes if you say, she said no.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
If you say, hi, Shamrock. Oh, see? He said, how are you, Shamrock?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, how are you, Shamrock?
Lane (Producer)
Hi, Shamrock. No. Oh, I got a hello.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
God, it's fascinating.
Lane (Producer)
We just got to teach. Teach her to count drug money.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Yep. Yeah, no, that's what I was thinking, too.
Podcast Host
Or read the credits, you know.
Lane (Producer)
Oh, read our end credits.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, Shamrock.
Lane (Producer)
She is a pretty.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Shamrock.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Shamrock.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Rory. Can you say Rory?
Lane (Producer)
Rory staring you down?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Rory.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Rory. Oh, did Shimmer just say asshole?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Yeah.
Podcast Host
Okay, she's walking away now. She's done.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
This interview's over. She says, oh, my God, here I am, a nice person.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Oh,
Lane (Producer)
oh. Coming in real close.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Getting real close. Wanting to really smell our essence. It feels like.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Not hard, though. Converts smell.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Oh, yeah, they can smell.
Podcast Host
Okay.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
They're actually very sensitive to Scented candles and oil. So if you have a bird, you should not have those things.
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Lane (Producer)
I love a vanilla. A French vanilla.
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Podcast Host
What's the vibe in the adoption center? How often do you get people coming in looking for birds?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Well, yeah, definitely on a weekly basis. You know, you got people coming in every week to check out our birds. So the society started out just as, like a bird enthusiast club back in the 1930s. And it wasn't until 2012 that they actually decided to open a bird shelter. And it's been entirely volunteer run since then. Open every day from 10 to 2. We just have volunteers take care of at any time. We have well over 100 birds, so they always need fresh food, fresh water, change out their, their cages. And I'd say we adopt out, on average, three or so birds a month.
Podcast Host
That's pretty good.
Lane (Producer)
How long does a bird like Shamrock live?
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
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Andrew (Bird Handler)
They can go anywhere from 50 to 80 years.
Lane (Producer)
Whoa.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Oh, man.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Yeah, so that's.
Lane (Producer)
It's a commitment.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Birds like these are definitely a long term commitment. Like, I'm in my 30s, and I would, I would not buy a new baby Amazon because it would outlive me by a lot.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
How old is Shamrock?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
She is at a, what, 26.
Lane (Producer)
So she's got a long. She's got a good, long life ahead of her.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Yeah, her path to the shelter was a pretty common one. You know, she was bought as a baby by someone in, like, their middle, early middle age. And they get to an age where they can no longer take care of the bird and they have adult children that also don't have the ability to take care of a perpetual toddler. And so we get a lot of, like, bigger birds like this that are in their, like, 20s to 30s, where they're. They still have a lot of life left in them.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Yeah, 26. I was detecting a little, you know, youthful sass.
Lane (Producer)
I felt like. Yeah, just.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
You heard me, Shamrock. Shamrock, you heard exactly what I said.
Lane (Producer)
Unless you're a child, you should get a gently used bird and not a new bird.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Yes, gently used, 100%.
Lane (Producer)
Oh, what's happening here? Claws up to.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
That's pretty dope.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
She might bite me. We'll see.
Lane (Producer)
Oh, that would be exciting.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Does it hurt?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
So far, not yet.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Okay.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
But there's a first time for everything.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Well, we know Andrew's a little bit
Andrew (Bird Handler)
of a risk taker, so these birds are typically. They bond to like one person. And from what we understand, the last owner, she bonded with the adult son, so I feel like she's. She's probably bonded to me. So she was just printing my hand a little bit there to show that we're buds.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Yeah, I love that. Affectionate. You know what I mean? Shamrock's not, you know, bottled up.
Lane (Producer)
Thank you.
Podcast Host
Thank you, Shamrock.
Lane (Producer)
Thank. Thanks, Shamrock.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Thank you, Shamrock.
Podcast Host
Thank you, Andrew.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
Thank you, Andrew.
Podcast Host
Can you say the name of the rescue one more time?
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Yeah, it is the Greater Chicago Caged Bird Society. We are out in Villa Park, Illinois, in the western Chicago suburbs.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
All right, well, if you're gccbs, there you go.
Lane (Producer)
Looking for a bird. Chicagoans, you know where to go. Shamrock is adorable.
Podcast Host
Shamrock's great. Shamrock's the only guest we've ever had on this podcast.
Lane (Producer)
It's true. Our first cast.
Podcast Host
Yeah.
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Lane (Producer)
Setting quite a bar. All right, thank you, Andrew.
Podcast Host
Thank you, Andrew.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Sure thing. Good meeting y'.
Podcast Host
All.
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Lane (Producer)
Nice to meet you.
Andrew (Bird Handler)
Bye.
Spinquest Disclaimer/Commentator
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Andrew (Bird Handler)
All right, bye.
Lane (Producer)
Oh, look at Shamrock going in for a close up. Whoa.
Podcast Host
Kisses.
Lane (Producer)
Wow, what a treat. Our first bird.
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Release Date: March 20, 2026
Podcast: CrimeLess (iHeartPodcasts x Smartless Media)
Hosts: Rory Scovel, Josh Dean
Producer: Lane
Special Guests: Andrew Earnrider (Bird Handler), Shamrock the Parrot
This unique bonus episode departs from CrimeLess’s usual deep dives into wild and outrageous crimes. Instead, hosts Rory and Josh, alongside producer Lane, present an extended, surprisingly hilarious and heartfelt interview with their first-ever non-human guest: Shamrock, a yellow-naped Amazon parrot, and her handler Andrew from the Greater Chicago Caged Bird Society and Rescue. Listeners are treated to stories about Shamrock's past, insights into the world of long-lived birds, and the quirks and challenges of bird rescue—all tied together by the hosts' trademark humor and genuine curiosity.
[02:30 - 05:05]
Quote:
"A little bit of luck, a little bit of algorithm. All heart." — Lane (04:24)
[05:09 - 06:33]
Quote:
“I totally understand why there's a rescue, because these birds must outlive their Owners all the time..." — Lane (05:09)
[05:30 - 09:52]
Memorable Moment:
[07:03 - 15:37]
Quote:
“When a parrot is kind of upside down, you interpret their facial features differently and they look so alien.” — Spinquest Commentator (09:35)
[13:21 - 14:11]
[09:50 - 11:49]
Quote:
"We just got to teach her to count drug money." — Lane (14:11)
"Or read the credits, you know." — Podcast Host (14:17)
[15:02 - 15:19]
Quote:
"If you have a bird, you should not have those things [scented candles, oils].” — Andrew (15:10)
[15:37 - 16:32]
[16:40 - 17:42]
Quote:
“Like, I'm in my 30s, and I would not buy a new baby Amazon, because it would outlive me by a lot.” — Andrew (16:49)
Advice for Potential Owners:
[18:16 - 18:38]
Shamrock's Sass:
“Did Shimmer just say asshole?” — Spinquest Commentator (14:35)
“Yeah.” — Andrew (14:45)
Parrot’s Unique Talents:
"Sometimes if you say, she said no." — Lane (13:47)
On responsibility:
"Birds like these are definitely a long term commitment." — Andrew (16:49)
Candles & Birds:
"If you have a bird, you should not have those things.” — Andrew (15:10)
The hosts close with heartfelt thanks to Andrew and the Greater Chicago Caged Bird Society and Rescue, encouraging Chicagoans to consider bird adoption. Shamrock earns the unexpected title of CrimeLess’s “only guest ever”—providing an oddly touching, comedic break from true crime. The episode highlights the responsibilities of “decades-long” pet ownership, shares the joy (and chaos) of bird behavior, and gives listeners a rare, genuine appreciation for the world of companion parrots.
If you're near Chicago and thinking about bird adoption, check out the Greater Chicago Caged Bird Society in Villa Park, Illinois.