Super Poopers

Summary

CrimeLess: “Super Poopers”

Original Air Date: February 11, 2026
Hosts: Rory Scoville & Josh Dean
Produced by: iHeartPodcasts + Smartless Media

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Episode Overview

This hilariously irreverent episode of CrimeLess investigates the world of public defecation as crime—exploring infamous “serial poopers,” viral viral moments, and the not-so-glamorous legal consequences. Hosts Rory Scoville, comedian, and Josh Dean, veteran journalist and true crime podcaster, walk listeners through three wild tales: a viral road rage incident, a long-unidentified serial car defecator, and a scandalous superintendent. Their signature blend of detailed reporting and off-the-cuff comedy keeps the topic digestible, while the stories reveal surprising legal and human complexities.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Is Pooping in Public Really Illegal? (02:17–03:55)

• Josh and Rory open, in their signature banter, with the provocative question: just how illegal is it to poop in public?
• Rory confesses his own history:
  "Yes. ... It's well documented in my standup, so if I were to lie now, I would be a big fraud." —Rory (02:52)
• The duo clarify: It is, indeed, against the law, with a spectrum of consequences from disorderly conduct to public lewdness, depending on the specifics.

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2. The Delco Pooper: Road Rage Goes Viral (05:06–16:59)

Story Breakdown

• Incident: In April 2025, Delaware County (“Delco”) outside Philly becomes the backdrop to a viral video: A woman, Christina Salamento, exits her car in a four-way intersection, bends over, and projectile defecates on the hood of a car following a road rage altercation.
• Police & Press Reaction:
  • Arrested on charges including indecent exposure, criminal mischief, and “depositing waste on a highway.”
  • Her statement:
    "I wanted to punch her in the face, but I pooped on her car instead and went home." —Salamento, police affidavit (09:45)
  • In court: Viral video played for Judge Mary McFall Hopper; Christina is charged and later takes part in a first-offender program to have record expunged.
  • Notable debate: Is human waste “littering”? Rory jokes:
    “Are we led to believe that this poop out of her ass is a forever chemical?” —Rory (15:37)

Christina’s Online Persona

• Listeners learn about Christina’s OnlyFans career and her unique online branding:
  "Cannabis is the lube I use to slide through life." —Christina, Facebook bio (11:52)
• Her unapologetic attitude is clear:
  "You want me to fucking shit on you? I want 5K. And I'm bringing a bodyguard." (13:47)
• Her OnlyFans rate jumps from $7.99 to $30/month after the incident. “Any press is good press,” quips Rory.

Legal Outcome

• Christina enters Pennsylvania’s Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition Program (16:06). On completion, all charges will be dismissed, but she must remain off social media regarding the incident.

Notable Quotes

• "She did make the more mature decision [than assault]." —Rory (09:51)
• "We're going to live in a world where people are just shitting all over the place." —Rory (14:36)
• "Are we led to believe that the poop out of her ass is a forever chemical?" —Rory (15:48)

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3. Akron’s “Poop Bandit”: An Unsolved Mystery (17:39–25:37)

Story Breakdown

• Timeline: 2012–2015, Akron, Ohio. Dozens of cars get defecated on. One child’s car is hit seven times.
• Community Action:
  • Victimized parents set up time-lapse surveillance—30,000 images before catching a clear (blurred-butt) shot of the “Poop Bandit.”
  • The suspect’s image circulates widely; labeled as “the most widely circulated image since Ruby shooting Oswald.”
• Case Goes Cold: Despite a clear photo, police drop the case. Discussion ensues: why so little urgency?
• Possible Suspect:
  • Reddit speculation points to a firefighter who died by suicide the day after the image was made public. The theory is unconfirmed, but timelines match and the facial similarities are striking (24:55).

Notable Quotes

• "I hope this is just a dog...who opened the door of my car and crapped inside and made human. I hope that's who did this." —Rory (18:37)
• "This is a way different version of don't fuck with cats." —Rory (19:39)
• "Consider this party officially pooped." —Josh (25:37)

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4. “Super Pooper”: School Superintendent Busted (30:31–37:28)

Story Breakdown

• Incident: In 2018, Holmdel High School, NJ, experiences an ongoing mystery: someone is repeatedly defecating on the track. Surveillance cameras eventually catch a man in the act—it's Thomas Trimaglini, 42, superintendent of the neighboring school district.
• Media Reaction: Instantly dubbed the “Super Pooper” and “Pooperintendent.”
• Legal Outcome:
  • He claims "runners diarrhea" as the reason, despite three nearby porta-potties.
  • Pleads guilty to a non-criminal municipal offense, pays fine, more serious charges dismissed.
  • Sues township, police, and officer for leaking the mugshot which led to his professional downfall, alleging rights violations.

Hosts’ Philosophical Take

• Rory suspects Trimaglini knew how to work the system:
  "I think he's really smart...he figured out his loophole to get to do his weird crime. ... For some reason, I feel like cheering for this guy, despite the fact I think he was the guy the whole time." (37:05)

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5. “Lane’s Games”—Vice Presidential Poop Puns and Trivia (37:46–43:02)

• Lane Rose, producer and trivia host, brings “number two” puns into a vice presidential history game, peppering in little-known facts and stumping the hosts.
• Notable quips:
  • "Are you ready? ... This is just classic trivia." —Lane (38:09)
  • "Tommy Lee Jones and this vice president were roommates at Harvard." "Oh, I do know this ... Al Gore!" —Rory & Josh (39:49)
  • "If this country can get its act together, he'll be president one day." —Rory (37:20)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

(03:55)
"We've got an open and shit. I mean, shut case, an unsolved mystery, and a serial pooper who may have been framed." —Josh

(09:45)
"I wanted to punch her in the face, but I pooped on her car instead and went home." —Christina Salamento (police affidavit)

(13:47)
"You want me to fucking shit on you? I want 5K. And I'm bringing a bodyguard." —Christina (on her OnlyFans offers)

(15:48)
"Are we led to believe that this poop out of her ass is a forever chemical?" —Rory

(18:37)
"I hope this is just a dog who opened the door of my car and crapped inside and made human. I hope that's who did this." —Rory

(25:37)
"Consider this party officially pooped." —Josh

(32:22)
"He was dubbed the Super Pooper and the Pooper Intendant." —Josh

(37:20)
"If this country can get its act together, he'll be president one day." —Rory

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Important Timestamps

• 02:17 – Main show/crime theme begins (“trigger warning: this episode is about human excrement”)
• 05:06 – Delco Pooper story kicks off
• 09:45 – Christina Salamento’s police statement
• 11:52 – Christina’s offbeat Facebook bio
• 14:21 – OnlyFans price hike
• 16:06 – Legal resolution for Christina Salamento
• 17:39 – Akron’s “Poop Bandit” segment begins
• 19:56 – Camera catches the bandit (photo described)
• 24:55 – Unconfirmed Reddit theory about the Akron pooper’s identity
• 25:37 – Segment wrap
• 30:31 – New Jersey “Super Pooper” story starts
• 34:58 – Superintendent’s “runner’s diarrhea” defense
• 37:46 – “Lane’s Games” trivia segment begins

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a masterclass in turning the gross into hilarious, and the childish into surprisingly nuanced social commentary. The hosts probe not just the crimes themselves but the motivations, legal ambiguities, and the very human messiness behind acts that seem inexplicably bizarre. The show's tone is gleefully irreverent, driven by sharp comedic banter, but there's a genuine curiosity behind the poop jokes—a quest to understand why people cross such weird lines, and what happens next.

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For fans of wild true crime, viral oddities, or just a really good story told with wit, CrimeLess’s “Super Poopers” is flush with surprises.

Transcript

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[Rory Scoville]

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[Josh Dean]

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Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Rory Scoville]

When you look at your car, you're gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

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I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

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[Rory Scoville]

Are we led to believe that this poop out of her ass is a forever chemical.

[Josh Dean]

Campsite Media Smart media trigger warning. This episode is about human excrement. Oh, Rory, uncomfortable question here.

[Rory Scoville]

Those don't even exist for me. Let's just get that out of the way.

[Josh Dean]

You ever had to drop a deuce in public?

[Rory Scoville]

Yes.

[Josh Dean]

Wow. Didn't even have to think about that one. Okay.

[Rory Scoville]

It's well documented in my standup, so if I were to lie now, I would be a big fraud.

[Josh Dean]

All right, I think we can agree that it's very gross, but is it illegal to poop in public?

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, I mean, yeah, that's a great question, because is it a choice? Sometimes. I mean, to be very clear, mine were not choices. Oh, wait. You know, maybe I should clear that up through no choice of my own. Have I ever pooped in public?

[Josh Dean]

Okay, okay, okay. Fair. So you're saying that's the case you would make in court? If I were the judge and you were like, your Honor, I would be

[Rory Scoville]

like, what am I supposed to do if I can't, you know, if I gotta go and there's no restroom, you know, and you're, you know, what do you do?

[Josh Dean]

Well, I can tell you that you'd probably be in trouble. Yeah. Because this week on Crimeless, we confirm what you've always suspected to be true. Or some of us did. That it is indeed against the law to hoop in public. We've got a trio of criminals who found this out the hard way. Or the soft way, depending on your last meal.

[Rory Scoville]

Well, you don't know what their diet is.

[Josh Dean]

We've got an open and shit. I mean, shut case, an unsolved mystery, and a serial pooper who may have been framed. Oh, Rory, do you need to use the bathroom before we start?

[Rory Scoville]

No.

[Josh Dean]

All right, then. Let's get into it after the break. Hello, and welcome back to Crimeless, the podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest and grossest criminals. I'm Josh Dean.

[Rory Scoville]

And I am Rory Scoville.

[Josh Dean]

Public pooper.

[Rory Scoville]

Public pooper number one. Josh, maybe I should turn the tables. Have you ever pooped in public?

[Josh Dean]

Define public.

[Rory Scoville]

Your home. No. I don't know. Outside, I mean, you've gone camping. You've had to live that life.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, but is the woods? See, this is a question, a part of the question we have not defined.

[Rory Scoville]

Out in the woods. I think we can all assume that's fine. That's fair game.

[Josh Dean]

I think so. This week, we're not talking about the woods, though.

[Rory Scoville]

And now I'm even more excited.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. And I think this is. Today's episode is destined to be a Crimeless classic. Because what's stupider than a poop joke? Let's dive in. I want to start with the most explosive story, both in terms of how viral this story went and the act in question. Yes, Rory, I feel like this is the type of news you'd probably see on your feed. Does the term Delco pooper Ring any bells?

[Rory Scoville]

No.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, all right then. So Delco is short for Delaware county, which is just outside Philadelphia proper. But it's basically shorthand for a certain kind of Philly metro area person. It's a vibe. Here's a TikTok I found that shows you the accent that we're dealing with here. You're craving a hoagie from Wawa. Yeah, let's just go get water ice and go to the Eggles game too while we're at it.

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Go birds.

[Rory Scoville]

Yep.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, you know it. You got it?

[Rory Scoville]

Oh yeah, got it.

[Josh Dean]

Okay, so anyway, please hear that voice in your head as I tell you the story. Piece of cake. It's the spring of 2025, late April in Delco. The weather's getting nicer, the trees are starting to get their leaves back. There's probably some new seasonal green icy flavor at Wawa. Generally I feel like people are in better moods when the sun starts to come out, but not today. We're in full road rage mode. When you think of road rage, where does it usually happen? Like where do you picture?

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, highway all the time. You just think.

[Josh Dean]

Exactly. Yeah, like busy roads. We're going 90 on a highway, fast and furious style. Or like maybe Central Philly, bumper to bumper, some guy in an Eagles jersey threatening to murder you.

[Rory Scoville]

Yep.

[Josh Dean]

But the now legendary Delco Pooper. This happened at a four way stop on a quiet residential street. One of you.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh my gosh.

[Josh Dean]

Rory, I'm going to show you this video and I want you to describe what's happening for our listeners.

[Rory Scoville]

You got it. But if this is two girls, one cup, I'm going to be pissed. All right. Four way intersection. Somebody's filming outside of their car.

[Josh Dean]

You're going to see the aftermath, I believe right there.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh my Lord.

[Lane Rose]

Wow.

[Rory Scoville]

Wow. That is, I gotta say, obviously it's disgusting, but it is wildly impressive.

[Josh Dean]

So yeah, like I know you, it was hard to see, but for the people at home. What do you. What just happened there?

[Rory Scoville]

This woman got out of her car, walked to the car behind her, bent over and kind of onto the hood, sprayed diarrhea onto the hood of the car.

[Josh Dean]

That is correct. That is what happened.

[Rory Scoville]

You are right, Josh. This is an instant classic episode.

[Josh Dean]

So that video goes viral in April and the next day police arrest the woman that you little hard to see there, but she is 44 year old Christina Salamento. So I got to play this video for you as well.

[Rory Scoville]

Can you tell us what happened?

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The lady chased me. She chased me and I asked her that's what's happened. I have a sickness.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, I mean, there was definitely. That woman did not seem embarrassed, did she, Rory?

[Rory Scoville]

No. She was smiling and, like, ready for questions.

[Josh Dean]

I would feel like for most people, that would be the worst moment of their lives, the really bad decision that was made. She seemed kind of proud of it.

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, if you're willing to go the distance of shitting onto someone's car, you, You. This world is no longer image is no longer a concern of yours. You're not checking the mirror before you leave any place. You're fine with whatever you're presenting.

[Josh Dean]

So I'm gonna walk you through the police investigation here, and you're gonna get some answers to the questions I'm sure that you have. So according to a police affidavit, Solamento honked at a driver in front of her. I think we heard that that was because the person in front of her failed to turn on a green arrow. Allegedly, a different motorist this time behind her started heckling Christina. And she claims to have seen this in a rearview mirror. Salamento told cops she was having stomach issues at the time and was getting impatient that this car in front of her would not move. Gotta get to the nearest Wawa toilet, guys. So she drove around the car in front of her, and she's minding her own business, thinking of that big, beautiful bathroom in her future, when the driver behind her, she claims, started following closely and yelling insults. So she hit the brakes, got out of her vehicle, and took aim at the person tailing her. She later gave police a quote that I'm going to immediately enshrine in the Crimeless Criminal quote hall of Fame quote, I wanted to punch her in the face, but I pooped on her car instead and went home.

[Rory Scoville]

And weirdly, you put those two things side by side. She did make the more mature decision

[Josh Dean]

and probably the less. I'm guessing you get less time. Right?

[Rory Scoville]

I got to assume you're going to get less for fecal issues than physical assault.

[Josh Dean]

So we're saying she actually. She made a smart choice in the moment.

[Rory Scoville]

In the moment between those two choice. I mean, if you're putting in the third choice, do nothing. She did not make the right choice,

[Josh Dean]

according to press reports. She also said this to cops. And I think you might take issue with this quote, Rory. Okay, it was a clean poop. I didn't even have to wipe.

[Rory Scoville]

You know, I mean, that's like if I'm one of the cops, I'm chuckling and I'm probably like, all right, get out of here.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, that was not a clear. I'm just going to say, first off,

[Rory Scoville]

that was not a clean poop. And I do not believe that she didn't have to wipe. However, I've never bent over and sort of projectile shat. And in that case, maybe you don't have to wipe.

[Lane Rose]

Maybe.

[Rory Scoville]

Maybe it all just exits and there's zero friction with any other part of your body.

[Josh Dean]

That's possible. Well, we. Yeah, I don't have, like, I don't think we have no forensic evidence to. To really debate.

[Rory Scoville]

We'll never know.

[Josh Dean]

We'll never move on. And I'm going to tell you that after her identity was made public. Because you thought this was the end. Oh, no. The Internet quickly found her Facebook page. Her account was, I kid you not, under the name Christina M. Shithead, but shit spelled S H Y T head. And there we learned a little bit about Christina Solamento. Like, she's a single mom. She's involved in the swim community. She posts about fundraisers and asks for recommendations for local pool swim clubs for her kids. And on a quick glance, she seems pretty normal, but. Oh, man. Then you get into the intro part of her Facebook page and I'm just gonna read it to you, okay? Stop disturbing women. You're not ready for 100. Cannabis is the lube I use to slide through life.

[Rory Scoville]

So, look, I'm not gonna say. I'm not gonna steal that second one.

[Josh Dean]

And then there's more. Rory.

[Rory Scoville]

Good.

[Josh Dean]

There's a link to her OnlyFans account.

[Rory Scoville]

No, no, Josh, no.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, yes. And I'm going to read here what she says to her fans. Hello, fans. Neen here. I guess Neen must be her nickname. I'd love to show you my pretty toes decorated with your favorite color nail polish. Sometimes decorated in jewelry. Tiptoe with me and you'll see. Come with my feet. I'm not going to tell you how come was spelled there.

[Rory Scoville]

I can guess.

[Josh Dean]

And toes, on a fabulous journey beyond your wildest dreams.

[Rory Scoville]

You know, it's interesting. What an interesting sales pitch.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

Doesn't know how to write a great slogan for Facebook. Great at only fans pulling people in.

[Josh Dean]

I bet you didn't think that feet was going to be her specialty, right?

[Rory Scoville]

I did not think it was going to be feet at all. But I got to say, if you're going to do something that you're going to sort of consider to be the G rated version of OnlyFans, Feet does feel like a good way to go. Where you are going to make some bank. You said she's a single mom. Look, so far I'm still on the. I kind of like what I'm seeing. This woman is unique. Her crimes are seemingly original. I don't know anyone else. Spraying cars down with diarrhea. Good for her. You don't honk at her. I bet you didn't see this allegiance coming, Josh.

[Josh Dean]

Well, a reporter from Philly Mag, doing the dirty work for all of us asked Christina a question that, well, I. No one really wanted to know the answer to. And that is regarding your Only Fans account. I know that some women on OnlyFans specialize in, well, scatological porn. Giving the events of your week, I was wondering if that's something you delve into. And she had an answer for that?

[Rory Scoville]

Yes.

[Josh Dean]

You want me to fucking shit on you? I want 5K. And I'm bringing a bodyguard.

[Rory Scoville]

She knows the pricing and I'm bringing a bodyguard. You got to go 5k. You're going to lose 500 bucks to the bodyguard.

[Josh Dean]

You know, she's seeming more reasonable, I gotta say. You've. You're. You've talked me into. I immediately wanted to dismiss her as just a lunatic, but actually, you know what?

[Rory Scoville]

She's. She's playing the game of life, Josh.

[Josh Dean]

Well, wait till I tell you that. So her only fan rate started. It was 7. 99 before the incident. Went up to 30 bucks a month after the Philly Mag story appeared.

[Rory Scoville]

That's probably the best example of any press is good press. That's the best example of that. Shit on a car, be identified, up your rates.

[Josh Dean]

How many copycat. Now everybody's gonna be shitting, right?

[Rory Scoville]

We're gonna live in a world where people are just shitting all over the place.

[Josh Dean]

There can be only one Delco Pooper, though. So she's. She was held on $10,000 bond, was able to cough up a portion of that, and only was released the next day. So she only spent one night in jail?

[Rory Scoville]

Yep.

[Josh Dean]

So she appeared in court. On May 19th, the Honorable Judge Mary McFall Hopper was assigned. She watched the viral video in court and upheld the charges, which were indecent exposure, disorderly conduct, criminal mischief, harassment, and depositing waste on a highway. She also approved an additional charge of lewdness.

[Rory Scoville]

You know, depositing waste on a highway. That feels like a nice way to say littering, which this is not.

[Josh Dean]

No, no, no.

[Rory Scoville]

And you know, if I'm crazy, call me crazy, but you know, when you finish a banana and you've got the peel or you finish an apple and you've got the core and you litter that out your window. Because that's just not litter.

[Josh Dean]

It's biodegradable.

[Rory Scoville]

Is that not what she like? Are we led to believe that this poop out of her ass is a forever chemical?

[Josh Dean]

Can we just have that quote out of context? We're putting that out on the social.

[Special Agent Regal / FBI Narrator]

Yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

Could that be the trail for this episode?

[Josh Dean]

Are we led to believe that the poop out of her ass is a forever chemical?

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, I got to listen this week. What do they delve into this week?

[Josh Dean]

That concludes our first story. I briefly interrupt this episode to offer an important update on the so called Delco pooper. As of the waning days of 2025, Cristina Salamento opted to avoid trial entirely and volunteered for a Pennsylvania program for first time offenders known as the Accelerated Rehabilitative Disposition Program. In order to finish the program, Christina must complete a two year program that includes probation, anger management courses and community service. She's also forbidden from posting about the incident on her social media, which is probably for the best anyway. But if she manages to complete all that, prosecutors will dismiss her charges and wipe her record clean. Now back to our episode. Any questions or concerns, Roy?

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, I gotta say it is good to know that if I ever am in a heated road rage moment, I now know shitting on someone's car is not necessarily, you know, just get out of jail free card. It is. It's not.

[Josh Dean]

Okay, but you can also turn it into a much more lucrative only fans account.

[Rory Scoville]

That's the thing. I got to get my only fans. I got to ask people if they want me to on them.

[Josh Dean]

You need a good bodyguard, Josh.

[Rory Scoville]

Do you want in? You want five hundo? I'm in. You want to. You want a cool 500?

[Josh Dean]

Hey, we said pooping. No peeing.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, no pee. That's an extra. That's extra.

[Josh Dean]

That's not the only story like this that I have for you this week. Perfect. This is not. I mean, it was a unique crime and I think Christina will, will be a legend of the Internet forever. But between 2012 and 2015 in Akron, Ohio, a different person was taking enormous dumps on cars. Residents of the Kenmore neighborhood were waking up to see piles of crap on their hoods or smeared on the windows or handles if they left the doors unlocked. Sometimes they'd find poop ins. Moonroofs took on a whole new meaning, man. Police claim that there were 19 reported incidents, but residents of the neighborhood estimate the rogue pooper had actually shit hundreds of times across the neighborhood. Some victims were targeted more than once. One kid's bright yellow car got shit on six times.

[Rory Scoville]

Wow.

[Josh Dean]

So neighbors had theories that it was a dog, which hilarious to imagine that

[Rory Scoville]

that's the case, but that is such wishful thinking. I hope this is just a dog

[Josh Dean]

who opened the door of my car

[Rory Scoville]

and crapped inside and made human. I hope that's who did this.

[Josh Dean]

Others just brushed it off, literally and metaphorically. They didn't even bother to file a complaint. So it took three years. It wasn't until 2015, actually two years after the pooping commenced, when police started seriously investigating. Problem was, they had no evidence to go with. Except for the giant piles, steaming piles of DNA at the scene, of course. But do you.

[Rory Scoville]

Is this. This was all in one neighborhood?

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, one part of Akron. Okay, gotcha. And I'm guessing if the cops were waking up to turds on their cruisers, these DNA samples would have been collected and tested. But instead, it wasn't really serious enough for them to do that kind of investigation. There was no clear motivation. There were no threatening messages scrawled in the poop. It was then the victims themselves, the residents of the neighborhood, who made the first big break in the case.

[Rory Scoville]

Yes. I love this kind of shit. Here we go.

[Josh Dean]

Let's go, citizen vigilantes.

[Rory Scoville]

This is a way different version of don't fuck with cats. Here we go.

[Josh Dean]

So one guy just gets so tired of cleaning shit off his daughter's car, she got hit seven times.

[Rory Scoville]

You know what I mean?

[Josh Dean]

So he, Jerry rigs a camera to surveil the crime scene.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

And now this is before ring cameras recorded our every moment to report back to Overlord Bezos. This guy set up his camera so it would take a photo every 12 seconds. He collected 30,000 photos over the course of two weeks. Not a bare bottom in sight until he caught this image. Oh, I like that. They blurred his butt. That's tasteful.

[Rory Scoville]

Not even a mask. Nope.

[Josh Dean]

So, Rory. Yeah? What are we looking at there?

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, I did not expect to see such a crystal clear photo of someone's face. Like, I kind of. I kind of thought for sure they'd have on a ski mask or something. But instead we got a guy, pants down.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

Doing what? What was her name? Christina.

[Josh Dean]

Yep, Christina.

[Rory Scoville]

Doing what Christina did. Which is always the hood. I guess that's going to be the most accessible spot of the car.

[Josh Dean]

Also the most comfortable to sit on, maybe.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

And he's just shitting onto the car.

[Josh Dean]

The poop Bandit says this headline in

[Rory Scoville]

the Daily News, poop Bandit.

[Josh Dean]

So this photo is distributed far and wide. A staff writer for the Akron Beacon Journal says the photo was, quote, the most widely circulated image since Ruby shooting Oswald.

[Rory Scoville]

All right, that's, you know, kind of impressive.

[Josh Dean]

It made headlines everywhere. The Daily Mail called him the filthy felon. Huffington Post called him the Bowel Movement Bandit. And the Poopatrator. Esquire wrote about it, enlisting their readers to, quote, help find the Akron Carpooper. I'm sure we would have mobilized our masses to find this guy.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

But after two months of interviews, police suspended their investigation. The trail went cold, and they said they had more pressing cases to dedicate their time to.

[Rory Scoville]

I have theories. I have theories.

[Josh Dean]

So, as of now, despite going very viral, the Bowel Movement Bandit is still unidentified, which seems a little sus to me.

[Rory Scoville]

It has to always be alliteration. That's These names, they only work if there's alliteration. Bowel Bandit. So you're saying right now this is still unsolved? I do have a theory. Okay. I feel like the cops are not doing enough. Making me think this guy's on the inside. Also, that guy's. That guy had a cop face.

[Josh Dean]

He did. I agree with you there. He had, like, a shaved head.

[Rory Scoville]

He did look coppish. Like he's trying to look, you know, intimidatingly authoritative.

[Josh Dean]

Like if you. Yeah. Like you've kind. If you thought, like, what does a cob in Akron look like? That guy did look like a cop.

[Rory Scoville]

That guy pops up. That guy poops up. Sorry, I could have. That. Could have had. That way locked and loaded. And I did it.

[Josh Dean]

We'll edit it to make it seem quicker. If you thought, like, what does a cob in Akron look like? That guy did look like a cop.

[Rory Scoville]

That guy poops up.

[Josh Dean]

So, yeah, surely somebody knows who this guy is. So we went to Reddit, where all of the most important crimeless questions are answered.

[Rory Scoville]

Yep.

[Josh Dean]

And a lot of people are there in the comments saying they swear it was their ex or their boss. But one comment said, and this is like, it's going to take a bit of a dark turn. I apologize in advance. I had heard that he was the firefighter who killed himself after that photo was published. I know we need. I know we need, like, a sound effect here that.

[Rory Scoville]

Wait, is that confirmed?

[Josh Dean]

No. So, but there is a little bit more to it. There's some meat on the bone. So let me. Okay, we did a Google search from there, and yes, there was an Akron Firefighter who committed suicide in 2015 that led us to report about a retired fire captain who killed himself. It gets worse. Rory and his wife in a murder suicide.

[Rory Scoville]

You. Can I just say, you really pulled us into something here. At no point. At no point was there ever even a hint it's going to go real dark. No point.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, you didn't think that. You didn't think this is where we were headed?

[Rory Scoville]

And then my favorite part was the trigger warning for myself. And our listening audience was literally seconds before you said it. It's like we're 30 minutes into the movie, and just now the R rating popped up. Oops, sorry, kids. We forgot to tell you. All right, so we have a murder. A murder suicide is what we're talking about here.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, and again, like, we don't know for sure. I'm not. We're not going to name names because it's not a tragic story, and I don't want to make light of.

[Rory Scoville]

So we just went from bowel bandit super fun alliteration to murder suicide.

[Josh Dean]

That is correct. Wow.

[Rory Scoville]

I know the turns on this show, folks. You cannot guess where Josh is going to take us.

[Josh Dean]

You don't. That's what. That's why they tune in, Rory.

[Rory Scoville]

It's the mystery of it all.

[Josh Dean]

I want to see what you think. Here's a photo of the pooper and a photo of the firefighter.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, Yeah, I could see that.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. It's not a hundred percent sure because he's wearing a. The. The pooper has a beanie on, right?

[Rory Scoville]

It is wildly close. Yeah. I don't know. I can't confirm, but I gotta say, that's a pretty good theory.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. So, again, I want to say this is a theory posted on Reddit. We didn't make this up, nor. Nor is it confirmed, but the timelines do match up. The photo of the pooper was posted and circulated on March 11, and the firefighter killed himself on March 12.

[Rory Scoville]

So, okay.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, I mean, it seems quite possible, but again, not proven Reddit theory. We would be irresponsible if we said

[Rory Scoville]

otherwise, but it's also the most viewed photo since Ruby killing Oswald.

[Josh Dean]

All kinds of surprises in this episode. The other issue. The guy didn't live in Kenmore. He lived in New Franklin, which is a town outside of Akron, which would explain why none of the neighbors recognized him, of course. Right. So if the guy's coming from a different area, like, they wouldn't say, hey, that's Kevin. But he would have known their area because he's a Fire captain. So he would have been all over the place, right? He had just retired a month before his death. Yeah. So, anyway, consider this party officially pooped.

[Rory Scoville]

Nice. Nice way to pull it back in after the break.

[Josh Dean]

One more for the pile.

[Rory Scoville]

All right, one more. Sorry.

[Josh Dean]

This one won't be as dark. I promise.

[Rory Scoville]

Now I don't believe you. I can't trust you ever again.

[Josh Dean]

I'm not. You shouldn't trust me. Over again.

[Special Agent Regal / FBI Narrator]

China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside.

[Rory Scoville]

This is Special Agent Regal. Special Agent Bradley Hall.

[Sixth Bureau Podcast Narrator]

This MSS officer has no idea the US Government is onto him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary. Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast.

[Rory Scoville]

I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question of his life.

[Josh Dean]

And that's a unicorn.

[Rory Scoville]

No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable.

[Special Agent Regal / FBI Narrator]

This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets.

[Sixth Bureau Podcast Narrator]

Listen to the 6th Bureau on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Amanda Knox]

In 2023, a story gripped the UK evoking horror and disbelief.

[Rory Scoville]

The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history.

[Amanda Knox]

Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict. A villain, a nurse named Lucy Letby.

[Josh Dean]

Lucy Letby has been found guilty.

[Amanda Knox]

But what if we didn't get the whole story?

[Josh Dean]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

[Amanda Knox]

I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that lived it to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Letby was.

[Josh Dean]

No voicing of any skepticism or doubt.

[Rory Scoville]

It'll cause so much harm at every

[Josh Dean]

single level of the British establishment. Of this is wrong.

[Amanda Knox]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Nancy Glass]

I'm Nancy Glass, host of the Burden of Guilt Season two podcast. This is a story about a horrendous lie that destroyed two families. Late one night, Bobby Gumprite became the victim of a random crime.

[Josh Dean]

He pulls the gun, tells me to

[Rory Scoville]

lie down on the ground.

[Nancy Glass]

He identified Tremaine Hudson as the perpetrator. Jermaine was sentenced to 99 years.

[Rory Scoville]

I'm like, lord, this can't Be real. I thought it was a mistaken identity.

[Josh Dean]

The best lie is partial truth.

[Nancy Glass]

For 22 years, only two people knew the truth. Until a confession changed everything.

[Sixth Bureau Podcast Narrator]

I was a monster.

[Nancy Glass]

Listen to Burden of Guilt, Season 2 on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

What if mind control is real?

[Josh Dean]

If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

[Rory Scoville]

When you look at your car, you're gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you hypnotize someone in sleeping with you?

[Special Agent Regal / FBI Narrator]

I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Can you get someone to join your cult?

[Amanda Knox]

NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Nlp, AKA Neuro linguistic programming, is a blend of hypnosis, linguistics, and psychology. Fans say it's like finally getting a user manual for your brain.

[Josh Dean]

It's about engineering consciousness.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Mind games is the story of nlp. It's crazy cast of disciples and the fake doctor who invented it at a new age commune and sold it to guys in suits. He stood trial for murder and got acquitted. The biggest mind game of all, nlp, might actually work.

[iHeart Podcast Announcer]

This is wild.

[Mind Games Podcast Host]

Listen to mind Games on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Josh Dean]

Welcome back to Crimeless. We're here this week to do our duty. I'm sorry.

[Rory Scoville]

No, that's a good one. Okay, I'll allow it.

[Josh Dean]

All right. And go deep on America's grossest criminals. Any philosophical thoughts to share at this point before I go on?

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, I'm. I'm so wrapped up in the lies that you've told me, Josh. I don't know if I know who you are anymore.

[Josh Dean]

All right, so our last story of the week takes place in New Jersey, because, of course it does. With all respect to our neighbors, I live in New York City. Most of us do here on the show. Parts of the Garden State Smell. I'm sorry. Like shit. It's just true.

[Rory Scoville]

They know. They know.

[Josh Dean]

And unlike our previous public defecators, this serial shitter's target was not cars. It was school property. Okay, so 2018, students and staff at Holmdel High School in Holmdel, New Jersey, start to find random piles of poop on or near the track and football field on a daily basis. Presumably, some person had been relieving him or herself on school property early in the morning before anyone got to school. After putting up with this shit for too long, an anonymous source.

[Rory Scoville]

Gotta say, love that after putting up with this shit for too long.

[Josh Dean]

Beautiful.

[Rory Scoville]

Now, that's poetry, Josh.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, credit to Lane on that one. An anonymous source told a reporter with Patch Media that it happened eight times. So after eight times, school officials finally set a trap similar to the trap from our last story. They set up a camera. So surveillance video quickly caught someone underneath the bleachers. And yes, the Pooper trader, to borrow a nickname from our last story, was arrested at 5:50am on a Monday while he was running laps on the school's track. Do you want to guess who this person was?

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, my God. It's a teacher. Oh, no, it's someone affiliated with the school.

[Josh Dean]

It's the superintendent of a neighboring school district.

[Rory Scoville]

Okay.

[Josh Dean]

Wow. Thomas Trimaglini, 42, head of the Kenilworth School District, is a job, and it's a job he's had since 2015. So when he was arrested, media outlets did not hesitate with the name calling. I feel like this is just the gift that keeps on giving to headline writers. He was dubbed the Super Pooper and the Pooper Intendant.

[Rory Scoville]

Now it's fun. I swear to God, if this turns to murder, you're dead to me, Josh. You are dead to me. Anyways. He caused 9 11. Okay. Thanks, Josh. Thanks. Oh, I already. I know you got more here. I'm already. He knew the investigation, right? He must have known about the cameras.

[Josh Dean]

You. Well, he was. It was a neighboring school district, though, so maybe not. Do they share intel? I don't know.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, so he was jogging on the track at a different school in a different district.

[Josh Dean]

Exactly.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, wow.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, he would.

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, maybe this guy's just a big fan of all the, you know, hijinks that happened during homecoming.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, I mean, maybe. Or, like. Maybe he, like, lost to that school in the volleyball championship or something.

[Rory Scoville]

This guy could be more fun than he's getting given credit. He's clearly successful. He's a pooper intendant, which is gonna. Which is obviously my next tattoo.

[Josh Dean]

So once this breaks the news, he takes a leave of absence, which seems pretty sensible. Of course, later, he has to resign from his $147,000 a year position as the superintendent of the Kenilworth School District. And I. Lots of questions here. Why not? Hold it. Why are you dropping your pants on school property? Why this school property? You don't even work here. Yeah, so a few days after his arrest, a local news outlet published a story that showed there's not one, but three porta Potties just steps from where he was relieving himself.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, so this is a kink or something, right?

[Josh Dean]

Unclear at this point, but he's charged with different. This is different than Christina's charges. Public urination or defecation. Discarding and dumping of litter. So, okay, that's a new phrasing, but same problem. And lewdness.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, I guess the lewdness. I mean, technically, I'm sure there's no one around I. 147,000 a year. That's now. Good lord, to risk all that.

[Josh Dean]

I know, I know.

[Rory Scoville]

That's a nice little annual take.

[Josh Dean]

It is. And like risking it schools like good hours. He pleads guilty to defecating in public, which is a non criminal municipal offense, so I guess not. Some of the more serious charges. Pays a $500 fine in court cots Prosecutors then agree to dismiss the charges of lewdness and littering. His explanation, according to his lawyer, is that he had runner's diarrhea brought on from acute blood flow during exercise.

[Rory Scoville]

And that was happening every morning.

[Josh Dean]

I know, like, this doesn't happen to me when I run, but I have heard of people jogging with toilet paper.

[Rory Scoville]

Interesting.

[Josh Dean]

I feel like the question you probably have. His lawyer was asked, like, what about the porta potties? He said, quote, he was not certain he would have made it even if he did know they were there. Which I feel like if he's gone multiple times, he knows they're there. Right.

[Rory Scoville]

But also, what a great way to phrase that. I'm not sure I would have made it even if I knew they were there. Smart.

[Josh Dean]

Classic lawyer right there.

[Rory Scoville]

I'd hire this guy right now.

[Josh Dean]

So he also disputes the claim that he was a serial offender. He claimed that the time he was caught on camera was the only time it happened. And I'm just gonna say that's possible. Like, maybe he was set up here. But, like, what a weird coincidence if, like, the only time he ever accidentally has to go on the field, it's on the field, where someone has been shitting every day.

[Rory Scoville]

And I guess, was that not in the news? Maybe this wasn't in the news. Maybe this wasn't a talked about thing.

[Josh Dean]

I think it didn't make the news until his mug shot came out. So that's when it went sort of viral. But of course, that. That plays into this because he, a year later, sued the township, a school resource officer, and the police chief, saying the mug shot was unwarranted and that it was leaked to news agencies by the police department. He also alleges he was not properly informed of his rights by the person who took him into custody. According to the official complaint, this led to a spiral of false reports that he had been arrested on criminal offenses when he had just been cited for violations of non criminal ordinances. And yet it still led to him losing his job. I was used for clickbait. Trebbinglini said what I did was wrong, but I had a bathroom emergency.

[Rory Scoville]

Here's what I think. My final takeaway. Unless there's more.

[Josh Dean]

Nope, this is it.

[Rory Scoville]

My final takeaway is I think he was the guy doing it, but I think he's really smart and I think he's maybe. I think he's maybe actually right about all these things. Like he figured out his loophole to get to do his weird crime. And I bet he is right about all those things. I'm willing to bet there was a leak of the photo and he wasn't properly informed.

[Josh Dean]

I don't.

[Rory Scoville]

For some reason, I feel like cheering for this guy, despite the fact I think he was the guy the whole time.

[Josh Dean]

Like there was. He was doing it on purpose, but he.

[Rory Scoville]

But he knew his out. If he ever got caught.

[Josh Dean]

Well, let's hope he's. He is a superintendent of some school out there.

[Rory Scoville]

Ah.

[Josh Dean]

If.

[Rory Scoville]

If this country can get its act together, he'll be president one day.

[Josh Dean]

All right, after the break, our final segment. All right, Lane, what are we doing for our final segment today?

[Rory Scoville]

Lane's games.

[Lane Rose]

Incredible segue.

[Sixth Bureau Podcast Narrator]

Rory.

[Lane Rose]

About the presidential stuff. Because I want to talk about some famous number twos.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh.

[Lane Rose]

People who were just a heartbeat away from making number ones. This is. I got some vice presidential trivia for you.

[Rory Scoville]

All right. Perfect. Yes.

[Josh Dean]

Love it.

[Lane Rose]

Are you ready? It's just. This is just classic trivia.

[Josh Dean]

Yep. Okay.

[Lane Rose]

Three vice presidents have received the Nobel Peace Prize. Name one. Oh, bonus points if you can name more than one.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, I thought I. So it's not catered towards dumb people. Okay, got it. Okay, Josh, you're gonna carry us here.

[Josh Dean]

All right. I'm gonna go Al Gore.

[Lane Rose]

That's right.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, yes.

[Josh Dean]

Rory, can you. Can you name one, Rory, or we move on.

[Rory Scoville]

I. I have absolutely nothing.

[Lane Rose]

That's okay.

[Josh Dean]

What are the other two, Lane?

[Lane Rose]

Teddy Roosevelt got the first one. A first American to get one. And then Charles Dawes for his role reducing tensions between Germany and France after

[Josh Dean]

World War I. I've never heard of that man.

[Rory Scoville]

I've never heard of Charles Dawes. And I don't know that I would have guessed Teddy Roosevelt.

[Josh Dean]

All right. But I did get one.

[Rory Scoville]

But we are on the same team, so we are Currently winning one to nothing.

[Lane Rose]

Okay, so this vice president was the first VP of color.

[Josh Dean]

Oh.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, Harris.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, that's what I would have gone with, too.

[Lane Rose]

It's not true. That would be Charles Curtis. He was the 31st vice president from 1929 to 1933 under Hoover. He was Native American.

[Rory Scoville]

Let's just say that was not advertised ever.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah, I know. No one's talked about this. He was a member of the KA Nation.

[Josh Dean]

He was Native American. Okay, all right, all right, all right.

[Lane Rose]

Okay.

[Josh Dean]

This is harder than I thought it was going to be, Lane.

[Rory Scoville]

I got to say, it really is making me feel differently about Lane as we go forward.

[Lane Rose]

Good. That's what my intention was. Tommy Lee Jones and this vice president were roommates at Harvard.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, I do know this Tommy Lee Jones. I think it might be Al Gore again.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, let's go. Al Gore again.

[Lane Rose]

You're right. It's Al Gore.

[Josh Dean]

Look at us.

[Lane Rose]

Okay, moving on. Two vice presidents have resigned. Who are they?

[Josh Dean]

Wow. Resigned. Well, Nixon's vice president, which I believe was Agnew.

[Lane Rose]

Yes. Correct.

[Rory Scoville]

Yes. Wow.

[Lane Rose]

Josh, give me another one.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, wait. The guy who was impeached. Andrew Jackson. But I don't know whose vice president was.

[Lane Rose]

You're right.

[Rory Scoville]

If you know who that is, I have no idea. I know, but I don't want to share it.

[Josh Dean]

Rory doesn't want to show off.

[Rory Scoville]

I don't want to seem smart.

[Lane Rose]

John C. Calhoun.

[Rory Scoville]

John C. Calhoun.

[Josh Dean]

Of course.

[Lane Rose]

Duh. This vice president almost got eaten by cannibals, man.

[Rory Scoville]

What I like is that you think I could name presidents and vice presidents, let alone no little anecdotes about their lives.

[Josh Dean]

I'm, like, approaching the number. Maximum number of vice presidents I can name, but I'm just gonna say Dick Cheney. Even though it's not Dick Cheney.

[Rory Scoville]

I am just gonna say, I can't believe it's the hardest trivia game on the poop episode. I don't know. I don't know.

[Lane Rose]

It is George H.W. bush. He was VP under Reagan. He joined the Navy in 1944, and during a combat mission, his aircraft was downed by Japanese enemy fire. He was rescued in the open sea by a US Submarine, but the other service members in that mission were captured by the enemy, beaten, tortured, and eaten.

[Rory Scoville]

Wow.

[Josh Dean]

Next week on Crimeless.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah, maybe. All right.

[Josh Dean]

Whoa. Okay.

[Lane Rose]

Got a couple more.

[Josh Dean]

How is that not a story we all know?

[Lane Rose]

I don't know.

[Rory Scoville]

I think Lane made it up. Very creative, that Lane.

[Lane Rose]

I haven't made any of these up for the record, but I appreciate you thinking I'm that creative? This sleepy vice president was said to have slept up to 11 hours a night. He also took a pre lunchtime nap and then a two to three hour post lunch nap. Here's a hint. He was also president.

[Rory Scoville]

Is it Joe? Is it Sleepy Joe?

[Josh Dean]

It's gotta be.

[Lane Rose]

No, it's Calvin Coolidge.

[Rory Scoville]

I honestly thought we were getting roped into it to think it would be Sleepy Joe just because of the title.

[Lane Rose]

That's what I. That. See what I did there?

[Josh Dean]

Tricked us.

[Lane Rose]

I tricked you. This vice president was born on the day President Herbert Hoover died, which is October 20th, 1964.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, so he's young. It's J.D. vance. Oh, no. 64. No. J.D. vance isn't 60.

[Rory Scoville]

No.

[Josh Dean]

Kamala Harris.

[Rory Scoville]

I don't know. Probably. I mean, it'd have to be. It's got to be.

[Josh Dean]

She's 60.

[Lane Rose]

It is Kamala Harris.

[Josh Dean]

Yes.

[Lane Rose]

She's reincarnated Herbert Hoover.

[Rory Scoville]

Because if we find out it's Joe Biden, our timelines are gonna melt in our brains.

[Josh Dean]

He looks great for 60.

[Rory Scoville]

He looks really good.

[Lane Rose]

That's it. You guys, Honestly, I think you would have gotten like a 2 on an AP history test.

[Rory Scoville]

Yes. Is that good? I don't know.

[Josh Dean]

That's like a half credit.

[Rory Scoville]

They wouldn't let me near the AP classes.

[Josh Dean]

Crimeless is a production of Smartless Media, Campside Media and Big Money Players in partnership with iHeart podcasts. It's hosted by Rory Scoville and me, Josh Dean. Our senior producer is Lane Rose. Emma Stiminoff is our associate producer. This episode was written by Lane Rose and me, Josh Dean. We're sound, designed and engineered by Blake Brook with support from Ewan lytram.

[Rory Scoville]

Ewan.

[Josh Dean]

Mark McAdam composed our theme song. The executive producers at Campside Media are Vanessa Gregoriadas, Matt Sher, and me, Josh Dean. The executive producers for iHeart podcasts and Big Money Players are Jack O', Brien, Lindsey Hoffman and Matt Apodaca. For Smartless Media, the executive producers are Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes and Richard Corson. Bernie Kaminski is head of production. The associate producer is Matty McCann. A special thanks to our operations team, Ashley Warren and Sabina Mara. Do you have a question, comment or confession for the Crimlyist team? Email us@crimelessampsite media.com and if you enjoyed Crimeless, please rate and review the show wherever you get your podcasts. It helps people find the show and also makes us feel validated. Unless you're mean, in which case keep it to yourself. We'll see you next week, Crimeless Nation.

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