When music festivals go wrong

Summary

CrimeLess Podcast Summary

Episode: "When music festivals go wrong"

Hosts: Rory Scoville & Josh Dean

Date: April 15, 2026

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Main Theme / Purpose

In this episode, Rory Scoville and Josh Dean dive into the chaos and unintended consequences that can unfold when music festivals come to small towns, using the ill-fated 2024 Soul Fest in rural Florida as a comedic but eye-opening case study. With their signature irreverence, they explore the festival’s wildest mishaps, cultural clashes, and the actual (and theoretical) criminal shenanigans that went down—while riffing on how they'd do things differently.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Festivals as Double-Edged Swords

• Rory recounts his positive experience at Burning Man (03:12), contrasting with Josh’s “anti-Burning-Man” story: Soul Fest, a four-day EDM festival in Ponce de Leon, Florida.
• Review of Soul Fest's intended vibe: music, alternative activities, and a touch of Burning Man bartering, but "on a budget" (06:06).

2. Small Town Panic: Clash of Cultures

• The festival was projected to bring 10,000 people to a tiny town of 2,000 (08:11), instantly unsettling locals unused to large events or "hippie dippy crowds" (08:36).
• Lax regulation in Florida left the town unprepared, giving rise to heated debates at a community meeting, especially over drugs and logistics (09:03).
• Quote from a concerned local:
  “The minute you get in, the hallucinogenic drugs come out. You have people running around seeing pink elephants and purple dinosaurs all night.” – Town Resident (10:22)

3. Law Enforcement Goes All In

• Sheriff John Tate was determined to crack down on drugs:
  “I’ve made that clear to them. I’m not going to turn a blind eye to drugs... they’re going to jail, plain and simple.” – Sheriff Tate (09:52)
• The “fuzz” was everywhere: random car searches, undercover patrols, and tent raids (15:47).
• Attendees felt targeted:
  “A lot of people in the festival felt like they were being hunted rather than protected.” – Anonymous Attendee (16:09)
• Sheriff Tate’s blunt response:
  “You want to say we were hunting you, okay, so be it. But we were hunting law violations and drug use.” (16:13)

4. Anarchy at the Festival Grounds

• Logistics failed catastrophically: massive traffic jams forced school closures, a car fire took out four vehicles, and supply shortages led to frustration (13:25-14:07).
• Inside the grounds: confusion, lack of water/toilet paper, and a “robot DJ booth” incident where a volunteer bit a cop’s head in a drug-fueled scuffle (18:48).
  • Quote: “It was so deep that you could see his skull.” – Josh Dean (19:41)
  • Drugs involved: likely PCP, mushrooms, acid, ketamine (20:17-20:44)
  • Legal outcome: 6 years in prison, 10 years of felony probation (21:09)

5. Community Fallout & Political Irony

• At a post-festival town meeting, Sheriff Tate dramatically compared the event to biblical chaos:
  “It is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. I seen stuff out there before I’d never seen... I don’t want to see it again either.” – Sheriff Tate (25:31)
• Rural residents denounced the festival as “Satan” and “the most demonic thing I’ve ever seen in our country.” (28:00)
• New county ordinances to regulate events were promised (28:56).
• Corruption twist: County Commissioner Brandon Newsom, who owned the local bail bond business and posted festival promos, was later charged with felony violations for conflicts of interest (32:51).
  • Quote: “It’s interesting who the criminals actually are.” – Rory Scoville (32:51)
  • Newsom also allegedly served as sheriff’s deputy while running the bail bond operation.

6. Lessons Learned & Host Riffs

• Hosts debate the takeaways:
  • "Don’t go to an EDM festival in a small Southern town."
  • "Maybe don’t bite the cops." (35:38-35:43)
  • "Don’t do all the drugs at once." (35:53-36:05)
  • "Don’t climb into the belly of a robot DJ stand unless you’re prepared to scrap." (36:08)
• Josh: “I just try and avoid Florida, period, but I realize that’s not always possible.” (35:17)
• Rory: “Sparse it out, it’s a four-day festival!” (36:05)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “God, people are so dumb. I guess that could be the tagline for our show.” – Josh Dean (11:54)
• “Festival itself was fucking amazing... best sound quality I’ve ever heard. The vibes and the people were immaculate.” – Reddit review (12:37)
• “They’re doing drugs in front of people out in the open, and you’re not going to do that in Florida. Go back to where you’re from.” – Commissioner reading/parody by Rory (26:17)
• “Walking around with furry things hanging out their rear end.” – Sheriff Tate (26:59)
• “It’s the most demonic thing I’ve ever seen in our country. It’s Satan...coming into our county like a flood.” – Local resident (28:00)
• “[Newsom] posted...on his Facebook page: ‘We welcome you to have fun and good times, but if you get in a tight, call, we can get you out before the soap hits the floor.’” (30:56)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:12 – Rory’s Burning Man reflections; intro of Soul Fest story
• 08:11 – Population/attendance contrast
• 09:03 – Town meeting and unregulated festival issues
• 09:52 – Sheriff Tate drugs policy
• 13:25 – Traffic, parking, schools affected
• 15:47 – Cop “hunting” tactics described
• 18:48 – The “robot DJ booth” bite incident
• 21:09 – Legal outcome for the biter
• 25:31 – Sheriff’s dramatic town hall quotes
• 28:00 – Residents: “most demonic thing I’ve ever seen”
• 32:51 – Newsom’s felony charges
• 35:38 – Host takeaways and tongue-in-cheek festival advice

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Segment: Rave/EDM Culture Quiz ("Lane’s Game")

(41:09 – 48:49)

• Rave slang definitions—e.g., "B2B," "Kandi," "Plur," "ground score," "wook flu," "caking"—with hilarious, mostly-wrong guesses by the hosts.
• Rory excels at being "almost correct," exemplifying the show’s mix of ignorance and improv comedy.

Example:

• “Caking” = When Steve Aoki throws a cake in your face during his set.
  (47:44)

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Tone & Style

• Irreverent, playful, and self-deprecating humor grounds the show, even as it delves into crime, corruption, and cautionary tales.
• Both hosts poke fun at Florida culture, law enforcement, festival-goers, and themselves.

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Key Takeaways for Listeners

• Even a small festival can overwhelm a rural community and set off a cascade of culture clash and legal excess.
• Local politics and law enforcement may be more fraught (or corrupt) than you imagine.
• Avoid stacking psychedelics—and don’t bite cops, no matter how wild your festival experience gets.
• Rave culture brings its own lingo—and even seasoned festival-goers can be stumped.

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Transcript

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[Rory Scoville]

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[Rory Scoville]

Guys, Don Lemon started following me.

[Lane Rose]

Huge news.

[Rory Scoville]

Hey now finally,

[Lane Rose]

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[Josh Dean]

Less

[Lane Rose]

you.

[Josh Dean]

Rory, I know you experienced a real rite of pass since recently you went to Burning Man.

[Rory Scoville]

That's correct.

[Josh Dean]

How was Burning Man?

[Rory Scoville]

It was incredible. I give it four stars. I'd give it more stars if we were allowed to 5, 6, however many are available. Loved it.

[Josh Dean]

More stars than Seal teams.

[Rory Scoville]

I would give it more stars than Seal teams that are out there.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, you loved it. So I felt like in honor of your experience as you were changed by it, I think. Yeah, fully so. We think of festivals as these wonderful carnivals for letting go of our worldly stresses, for gathering with our fellow humans and celebrating the gifts of life. But they can also be chaotic bacchanals where people are at their worst. They act poorly and they make terrible choices.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Which makes for some very good stories. And you're in luck today because I think I found the anti Burning Man. Oh, it's not a freeform jazz fest held in the tundra. It's an EDM festival in small town Florida.

[Rory Scoville]

Okay, here we go.

[Josh Dean]

Do I have your attention?

[Rory Scoville]

You've got it. I'm engaged.

[Josh Dean]

This story has it all. Poor decision making, wacky crimes, cops with thick southern accents, and a little bit of government corruption. All that and more after the break. Hello and welcome back to Crimeless, the podcast that celebrates the amazing creativity of the world's dumbest criminals. When it's not dancing in a speedo in the Nevada desert. I'm Josh Dean.

[Rory Scoville]

I'm Rory Scoville, speedo dancer extraordinaire.

[Josh Dean]

How many years has Burning man been a thing? Do you know?

[Rory Scoville]

I think it's over 30 years. Could be 30, 40, I don't know.

[Josh Dean]

Wild. And now it's like a city with however many 80,000 people.

[Rory Scoville]

I think this past year was 70,000. Someone said, damn, it's so many people. It's massive, but it's incredible.

[Josh Dean]

I'm going to tell you today about a festival that's had a much shorter run despite its organizers best interests. After the events we'll talk about today, the festival went on an indefinite hiatus thanks to the tenacity of one small Florida municipality. The event in question was called Soul Fest, as in like Spanish for sun. It was a four day EDM festival.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

So not that long ago. This is in 2024. The festival's organizers were planning their biggest party yet. Over 50 artists slated to perform on three stages. It's all bands that I've literally never heard of before. Let me read you a few rez closey LSD Dream Or LS Dream? I think it's probably LS Dream, Bob Moses, Lettuce, Dabin of the Trees. Any of these ring a bell for you? Rory?

[Rory Scoville]

I do not know any of these artists.

[Josh Dean]

I vaguely recall you raving about Lettuce's third album, but maybe I just made it. Maybe we just talked about Lettuce.

[Rory Scoville]

That's because it changed the game and it deserves that kind of respect.

[Josh Dean]

Well, it wasn't only about the music. If this lineup wasn't necessarily your own personal woodstock99, there was other stuff on display too, like art installations, murals.

[Rory Scoville]

Cool.

[Josh Dean]

You could check out spiritual healing workshops like Meditation, Yoga, Breathwork. Sounds like a great place to do drugs, if I'm being honest. So maybe kind of like Burning man in that aspect. Soul Fest also advertised endless activities like Frick Frack, Blackjack, Sonic Portal, and Body Marbling. Also, potentially things that could be at Burning man in my mind. Yeah, I don't know what any of these things are. Do you?

[Rory Scoville]

I don't. I don't know what those are. I. It honestly feels like you just made that up on the fly.

[Josh Dean]

I may have, but I. If so, I made up the answers because I'm about to tell you. Frick frack blackjack is no cash betting. Bartering only. Oh, they stole that from burning. They're biting some of Burning man style here with the bartering. Oh. The Sonic portal seems to be some sort of an immersive experience, A psychedelic spaceship ride. And body marbling is a temporary artistic technique that creates intricate swirled patterns on the skin by dipping the body in a water based paint bath.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, yeah. Okay. I kind of know what that is, even though I still have never understood how it works. But the portal thing sounds pretty cool.

[Josh Dean]

Sounds kind of cool, right?

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

So, like, so far, so good.

[Rory Scoville]

Okay, Florida.

[Josh Dean]

I feel like these Floridians were mostly trying to, like, bite off Burning man style, but on a budget. It's like.

[Rory Scoville]

It does sound like hearts are in the right place. I have a feeling we're going to take a turn. But it does seem like hearts are

[Josh Dean]

in the right place. Yeah. So naturally, organizers are settled on Ponce de Leon, Florida, a tiny town on the Panhandle with a population of 2000 traffic lights but a whole lot of heart.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah. Can't believe it's in Ponce de Leon. And they went with Soul Fest as opposed to, like, Eternal Life Fest or something.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, my God, you're right. Yeah. Festival of Eternal Life.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. All right, so we're going to send some notes. We'll send them a critique afterwards with our notes. That's one note number one.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

You missed a real opportunity with the name. More specifically, it's set up in Vortex Springs, a local water park in a natural spring Campground. For four days, organizers predicted the festival would bring in 10,000 people. I did look up the attendance of Burning man this year. It was between 70 and 80,000.

[Rory Scoville]

Okay.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. So you were right. Yeah. You were pretty much spot on as a reference point. Lollapalooza drew 115,000 people.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, my God.

[Josh Dean]

Per day. So this is small potatoes. 10,000.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

You might think that this relatively small event would bring welcome economic opportunities for the small town, but nope, the locals were not. You'll be shocked to hear, thrilled about all the hippie dippy crowds coming into their camp.

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, 10,000 people is still kind of a small arena. So if you can picture an, you know, an arena that's still quite a bit of people, but 10. Yes. Comparatively.

[Josh Dean]

In a town of 2,000 with no traffic lights, though, it's five times the size of the town.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Josh Dean]

So about a month before the festival, the Holmes County Board of Commissioners hosted a town meeting to address the concerns about Solfest. Organizers of the event, concerned citizens, and town officials piled into a conference room. Officials complained that they didn't know Solfest was coming until a month before it started. And they didn't have any town ordinances in place to regulate events like this, nor did Solfes need to acquire any permits to host it on private property. In other words, Florida realized that its general dislike of regulations isn't always the best policy.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, that's right.

[Josh Dean]

So you hate regulation until you realize

[Rory Scoville]

you need them until it affects you. And that's a very standard sort of red state mentality. Until it affects me, I oppose other people getting to do a thing.

[Josh Dean]

And that has been our political minute,

[Rory Scoville]

and that's political minute with Rory Scoville.

[Josh Dean]

One particularly outspoken attendee was the town sheriff, a man named John Tate. He was concerned about the potential for drugs at the festival, saying, I've made that clear to them. I'm not going to turn a blind eye to drugs. If people are in the venue using drugs, they're going to jail, plain and simple. Yep. So one resident who lives within a mile of Vortex Spring had experience with these type of events, and he warned everyone this way, the minute you get in, the hallucinogenic drugs come out. You have people running around seeing pink elephants and purple dinosaurs all night.

[Rory Scoville]

That sounds very specific.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. Maybe thou Doth protest too much.

[Rory Scoville]

But also, if you see a purple dinosaur, you can probably conclude internally that's a hallucination.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. I mean, and honestly, that doesn't. That seems like kind of fun experience.

[Rory Scoville]

It does seem.

[Josh Dean]

I don't feel like, I mean, if

[Rory Scoville]

you're going to see a dinosaur, it's like, yeah, I want the barney. Give me the barney.

[Josh Dean]

You know, I mean. Yeah. Not exactly the nightmare that if you're trying to scare people. I'm not sure. It also sounds like. Yes, maybe a very specific example that this one gentleman.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, a lot of people that meeting were like, well, shit, maybe we should go to this thing.

[Josh Dean]

The organizers, of course, assured everyone their event did not promote drug use. It was about the music, the hula hoops. Peace and love, man. They promised security would be present in addition to TSA style checkpoints. So to summarize, we've got a small, rural, conservative town in Florida with no traffic lights, a loud EDM Music Festival with 10,000 body painting enthusiasts and a police force with a bone to pick. What could go wrong? So if you're the festival organizer, what's your next move? You get to cancel the whole thing. Send a fruit basket to the sheriff.

[Rory Scoville]

You can't. You got to forge ahead. I've got to imagine there's pretty good money in this. 10,000 people tickets are like, you know, for four days tickets probably like 300 bucks, maybe for like a four day pass.

[Josh Dean]

And we've all seen the Fyre Fest documentary. We know what happens when you take people's money and don't give them what they want.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, you get to do it again a few years later. So there's no downside, really. You go to jail for. You get slapped on the wrist and then you come out and you do the festival all over again. Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

God, people are so dumb. I guess that could be the tagline for our show. God, people are so dumb.

[Rory Scoville]

God, people are so dumb.

[Josh Dean]

So the organizers, of course, went full speed ahead. Thousands of people from all over the world arrived at Vortex Springs ready to dance party and get their bodies marbled.

[Rory Scoville]

Yep.

[Josh Dean]

And what do you know? The weekend goes off without a hitch. Oh, just kidding.

[Rory Scoville]

It's like, wow, Josh, you really went off script this time. Really went with a new.

[Josh Dean]

And that's the end of our episode, ladies and gentlemen.

[Rory Scoville]

And nothing was illegal. And the town grew into a city.

[Josh Dean]

Was that Footloose? Is that the plot of Footloose?

[Rory Scoville]

This does. It's got. This has very modern day footloose vibes for sure.

[Josh Dean]

The sheriff takes LSD and has the time of his life.

[Rory Scoville]

Kevin Bacon DJed all night.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. So no, there are a lot of hitches. So some people had a great time. I read several positive reviews on Reddit like this one. The festival itself was fucking amazing. Best sound quality I've ever heard. The vibes and the people were immaculate. And then this very chill lady who talked to the local news. I believe Lane has this clip for us.

[Rory Scoville]

I love a clip, love a good clip.

[Josh Dean]

It's just part of the way the

[Lane Rose]

world works and the universe works. You know, you can't have good without the bad. But for the most part, the festival was nothing but, like, higher vibrational people. People loving each other and supporting each other.

[Rory Scoville]

And you know what? She's right. In just talking about the very basics of universal balance, she's correct. That was like. That was the cleanest take possible where she's like. And I will not name drop anything good or bad.

[Josh Dean]

Well, anyway, despite the higher vibrations experienced by this lady, there were a ton of logistical issues. The parking was a mess. The traffic overwhelmed the town. Of course, attendees were stranded in their cars for hours. Public schools had to cancel classes because the roads were so packed they couldn't get the buses to school. No one considered the impact on children, Rory.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, and they rarely do. That's called America. That's not just Florida. That's literally the entire country.

[Josh Dean]

And that was Political Minute part two.

[Rory Scoville]

And that's my second hot take.

[Josh Dean]

Within the grounds itself, attendees reported a lot of confusion about festival layout, miscommunication, low quantities of luxury items like water and toilet paper.

[Rory Scoville]

Yes, gotta consider that.

[Josh Dean]

Also, there was a car fire that burned and destroyed four other cars before the firefighters showed up. But the biggest complaint by far was 5o, or as you like to say, the fuzz.

[Martha Stewart]

The fuzz.

[Josh Dean]

By the way, I was thinking about that. I. I have never wondered until today, until I wrote that down and I was like, why did they start calling cops the fuzz?

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, why is it called the fuzz?

[Josh Dean]

And I tried. I wanted to have an answer for you, but the Internet failed me. Here, nobody seems to know. And the most common theories are pretty dumb, but I'm going to tell you anyway. Okay, so one is that it was a mispronunciation or a mishearing of the slang feds, or maybe shorthand force, but that seems unlikely to me. How do you get from feds or force to fuzz?

[Martha Stewart]

Fuzz?

[Rory Scoville]

I don't know.

[Josh Dean]

I guess it would require one person to mishear it and Then say it to another person who then adopted it. I don't think that's how it works. Another is that maybe it comes from fuss, as in what the cops make or are trying to stop, but I don't think that's it either.

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, I got to say, there's validity in all these, but I also agree. I don't think that's it.

[Josh Dean]

My favorite explanation, slash guess, comes from Reddit, of course, where someone suggests that it's hobo slang. I just love the word hobo.

[Rory Scoville]

I think it is. It does seem like it is, like, code word. You could say the fuzz. And at a time, no one understood it, and the people who did were like, this is a great private language we have. And then it became very trendy and popular, and now it's not a code name anymore. Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

And the theory here is that it may be it referred to, like, the buzz cut military styles that cops had in the 50s and 60s.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Dean]

So I feel like that could make sense. Sure. Right. Because everybody had long hair, they had buzzed hair. We call them the fuzz.

[Rory Scoville]

The fuzz.

[Josh Dean]

Anyway, now that I've not helped at all there, clearing up that question.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah. Heck, we had right there, that was incredible.

[Josh Dean]

I wanted. I wanted it to deliver, and it just didn't. I couldn't land the plane.

[Rory Scoville]

Little side quest.

[Josh Dean]

I failed in my side quest, but I can't win them all. But I was starting to say that cops were everywhere, doing cop stuff, pulling over cars before they made it to the campgrounds, conducting random searches of tents, patrolling undercover in the crowds, hoping to bust anyone who smelled even a little funny.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Here's what another festival attendee told the local news station wjhg, and then Sheriff Tate's response to that.

[Rory Scoville]

So I felt like a lot of

[Lane Rose]

people in the festival felt like they

[Rory Scoville]

were being hunted rather than protected.

[Josh Dean]

If you want to say that we were hunting you, okay, so be it. We were hunting you, but we were hunting law violations and drug use. Yes, we were. And I don't deny that, because I told you if you come here and you use drugs and you bring drugs, then, yes, we were going to try our best to lock you up.

[Rory Scoville]

I love some people's misinterpretation of just deciding to make assumptions that people have drugs and they're searching and have no concept of what freedom is, but yet definitely are certain that they're protecting it.

[Josh Dean]

He was saving the children, Rory, but

[Rory Scoville]

no concept of what it even actually is as a thing.

[Josh Dean]

He seemed like a fun guy, John

[Rory Scoville]

Tate, he seems like kind of clueless. He seems like a clueless guy who is like, yeah, of course I was targeting people. Oh, all right. Well, I have to say I would like to search your home because I think you might have. And he would go, well, you can't do that. And I would go, oh, do you get it now? Do you get it now, Mr.

[Lane Rose]

Officer?

[Josh Dean]

I'll just bleep the specific allegation that you made.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, yeah, I was going to describe it further, but then I was like, oh, wait, this is a family show. Exactly.

[Josh Dean]

So, yeah, so you could get a sense of the heavy handed policing that went down this thing. So really the problem necessarily wasn't the attendees, it was the cops. But by the end of the weekend, they had arrested over 50 people, probably more in traffic stops. For reference, There were only 28 arrests at Burning man in 2024, despite eight times the number of people. So this guy.

[Rory Scoville]

So you know, there's cops at Burning man and they're all just very. They're sort of doing the job that you sort of fantasize that a cop would be doing in. In normal society, which is just being helpful. And I mean, I had a cop alert me that there was a storm coming the next day at 4 o' clock and be ready for it. And I was like, oh, that was not the interaction I thought I was about to have.

[Josh Dean]

So, yeah, they're just not like bugging any. They're just there if something does.

[Rory Scoville]

They're there to help because things do happen and, you know, they step in. And also, it's no secret that there's obviously drug use at Burning man, but people are pretty discreet about it.

[Josh Dean]

Well, most of the arrests in Vortex Springs were for possession of illegal substances. And I think we just learned that maybe these people weren't even openly using that. They were just like Sheriff John, just like busted into their tents. And yeah, one woman was cuffed for sticking her feet in the vendor's drinking water and for, quote, terrorizing everyone. So maybe she crossed the line.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, see that's. There you go.

[Josh Dean]

Maybe get you off to a quiet little place to sleep it off, lady. Yeah, but the real doozy from that weekend happened in the robot DJ booth, which is, if you didn't know, a giant robot shaped DJ platform. So here's what happened. It's on the last day of the festival. A deputy is making his rounds when he decides he, for whatever reason, needs to get inside the belly of that giant robot. A volunteer named James Anderson followed the deputy up the Ladder into the belly, because that area was supposed to be limited access. And that's when the fight broke out between the two. Oh, and Anderson allegedly tried to grab the officer's gun, and then he took a bite out of the deputy's head. Okay. I mean, it's a choice.

[Rory Scoville]

We've all been down these roads.

[Josh Dean]

It was a pretty big chomp. I wouldn't recommend looking at the photos online, but for reference, it's about the size of a silver dollar pancake.

[Rory Scoville]

No. Oh, yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Trigger warning. Rory. It was so deep that you could see his skull. I don't mean to laugh there.

[Rory Scoville]

No, no, I don't need to see that.

[Josh Dean]

Anderson even complained that he had hair in his teeth after the attack, which is probably a time when he should have been keeping his mouth shut.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, you had it open earlier. Maybe shut it now.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah. So ultimately, his toddler fighting tactics failed. He was tackled to the ground, unfortunately, just tased, not shot. This is Florida. Yep. The guy should be counting his blessings. Kind of impressive that he's not dead. Yeah. Because, you know, I feel like if you bite a cop, like, he may be able to say he had cause to pull his weapons.

[Rory Scoville]

I would assume that, yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Do you want to guess what drugs this guy was on?

[Rory Scoville]

Ketamine, acid, LSD and two IPAs.

[Josh Dean]

Your batting average is very high on this show. You got three of the five.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, great. Wait, IPAs?

[Josh Dean]

No, it's not the IPAs. So it was. You said acid, you said ketamine, LSD, but you missed, so. Oh, you missed PCP and mushrooms.

[Rory Scoville]

I almost said mushrooms. I wouldn't have guessed pcp, but that actually is. I'm gonna say PCP was doing most of the lifting.

[Josh Dean]

I feel like I grew up being told that PCP is the one that makes people, like, jump off building.

[Rory Scoville]

I think PC. Yeah, I think PCP was.

[Josh Dean]

If you.

[Rory Scoville]

If you got rid of pcp. I don't think this happens.

[Josh Dean]

Now, his lawyer claimed this client never tested positive for those drugs at the hospital, but he did plead no contest to aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer and was sentenced to six years in prison, followed by 10 years of felony probation. So he's probably really going to regret taking that pcp.

[Rory Scoville]

I think he's not happy about it.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, the Holmes county chief prosecutor said this is the most severe bite wound I've ever seen in my career. I guess he's seen a lot of bite.

[Rory Scoville]

One. Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

In his. Oh, he lives in Florida, Right? He's a prosecutor in Florida.

[Rory Scoville]

Of course, he's specifically for bite wounds. That's how many. That's how much this happens. How many of these there are.

[Josh Dean]

So after four days, 50 arrests, one big bite of a cop, the locals were ready to dish out a heaping pile of I told you so at their next town meeting. I love that we're going to get

[Rory Scoville]

into I love the I told you so town hall meeting after the break.

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[Josh Dean]

This is crimeless. On May 16, 2024, nearly 100 people showed up to a town meeting to debrief after Soul Fest. Sheriff John Tate, the officer who promised to hunt people, took the mic and described what he saw. Oh, you've already heard his accent. This is going to help. Rory, could you please do the honors of reading his quotes for us in your best Florida panhandle cop voice?

[Rory Scoville]

What we've seen firsthand out there. Listen, I'm not a Bible scholar, okay? It is a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah. I seen stuff out there before I'd never seen before in Holmes county. And I'll tell you, I don't want to see it again either. Wow.

[Josh Dean]

We're nominating you for whatever voice acting award.

[Rory Scoville]

A voicey. A potty. A potty voicey.

[Josh Dean]

Do the potty voicey. All right, you can do these next two back to back.

[Rory Scoville]

They have to. Is it still the same guy or is this a different witness?

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, still. All these are all the same guy.

[Rory Scoville]

Yep. No, they're doing drugs. I want to change it up. I want this to be another person.

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[Josh Dean]

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[Rory Scoville]

Okay. They're doing drugs in front of people out in the open, and you're not going to do that in Florida. You don't do that. Go back to where you're from. The bottom line is all these people come from these states where they don't even have law and order. Love that someone believes there are states without law and order.

[Josh Dean]

Compared to Florida.

[Rory Scoville]

Compared to Florida, of all places. Now, we're a little different here. We're a little different here. We have law and order, a state

[Josh Dean]

that is literally a global joke.

[Rory Scoville]

A global joke. Truly a joke.

[Josh Dean]

All right, so, you know, you have truly accomplished Something when your behavior is too shameful for Florida. And finally back to the sheriff for this all timer.

[Rory Scoville]

Back in the early years, yeah, we arrested some folks because it was a different type of rodeo. It was for people fighting because they got drunk. And it wasn't people openly snorting coke and walking around with their furry things hanging out their rear end. Their furry things?

[Josh Dean]

What is he referring to?

[Rory Scoville]

What drugs did he do? And what did he hallucinate at the festival?

[Josh Dean]

So if you didn't catch that at home, the line was openly sorting coke and walking around with furry things hanging out their rear end. Yeah, what the hell?

[Rory Scoville]

I want to assume people maybe were doing, they had tails like they were doing furry dress up type shit. And he thought it was, you know,

[Josh Dean]

coming out of their butts.

[Rory Scoville]

He thought people were pooping fur. They don't even have laws in other states. We are Florida. We're a little bit different.

[Josh Dean]

Oh my God. So the residents were pretty shell shocked too. One said it's the most demonic thing I've ever seen in our country. This is not economic development. It's Satan. And he's trying to come into our county like a flood.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, I like that. He was kind of cool with people getting drunk and wanting to fight. All good. But these people that are just dressing up and dancing, no sir.

[Josh Dean]

This literally is Footloose.

[Rory Scoville]

You're not going to come to our town and enjoy yourself. Okay?

[Josh Dean]

Do that somewhere else.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, you want to get drunk and fight a local citizen, fine and good. But don't come in here with your hallucinogenics and tell me you talk to God while you are dancing, ok? Because that's the devil's work.

[Josh Dean]

One woman even claimed that someone flashed a school bus. I believe that's one of the horsemen of the apocalypse. Right?

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, look, you're going to get some wild cards. 10,000 people, you're going to get some wild cards.

[Josh Dean]

In the end, it was unanimous. Saul Fest would never ever be welcomed back to God's glorious panhandle. At least not this cozy corner. Yeah, and the Board of County Commissioners promised they would establish ordinances that would regulate large scale events like these going forward. Oh, the irony.

[Rory Scoville]

I can only imagine how fun future festivals could even possibly be with those ordinances.

[Josh Dean]

County Commissioner Brandon Newsom lived just a mile from Vortex Springs. He expressed his concerns as well, saying, I think we should give this to Rory too. I enjoyed his. This. This can be a different Florida man. By the way. Remember, this is County Commissioner Brandon Newsom. So he's maybe a Little bit more uppity than tough guy Sheriff John Tate.

[Rory Scoville]

About two weeks before, when the county commission learned about this event, I started doing some research myself. I knew it was something I wanted to make the public aware of. And some of the things I saw, I grew up in my. My Christian values. You can't compare the rodeo to this type of event. Okay? It's apples to oranges.

[Josh Dean]

Why do they keep talking about the rodeo?

[Lane Rose]

There's an actual rodeo that happens in the.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, rodeo comes up a lot. It's not even a metaphor. They're like, look, if you want to bring animals here that we can abuse by making them entertain us, that is fine. That is. God gave us that gift. You cannot compare the rodeo to this type of event. I mean, he's not wrong. You can't compare the rodeo at GDM Music Festival. You really can't. He's not wrong.

[Lane Rose]

I agree with him on that one, too.

[Rory Scoville]

You're gonna have different food truck vendors at those events. You just are.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, one of those things is people riding horses and, like, trying to tackle angry bulls. And the other one is a dance.

[Rory Scoville]

I never in my life have seen people come to my town that I grew up in who are mostly gluten free and vegan, and we do not welcome you.

[Josh Dean]

I should point out that this Newsom, this Commissioner Newsom owns one of, if not the only, bail bond company in the county. And so before the event, Bail Bonds by Brandon Newsom reposted the Soul Fest lineup on his Facebook page with the caption, we welcome you to have fun and good times, but if you get in a tight call, we can get you out before the soap hits the floor. Do you smell something fishy, Rory?

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, man.

[Josh Dean]

Dark.

[Rory Scoville]

That's. You know, that's a good. And honestly, that's fast, because I think if we all know anything about getting arrested, they make you shower with the other inmates immediately.

[Josh Dean]

But after the festival, it wasn't just townsfolk who were upset. People who attended the festival were pissed with how the cops treated the crowd and the animosity they felt from the town. And I think perhaps we've come to relate to how they might feel. Yeah. That they maybe did behave themselves. Okay. But they were set up to fail. And a bunch of people, especially those gobbled up in the 50 arrest, spent an uncomfortable time in the Holmes County Jail until bail was set, which was at the discretion of the local justice system. Soulfest attendees started chatting online, forming an advocacy group called justice for Soulfest. On Reddit, one person pointed Out. Let's not forget that it's against the ethical code law to be part of a police force and run a bales bondsman company. It's explicitly stated. Another responded, I've been knee deep in the Florida statutes trying to figure this piece out. I plan on filing an ethics violation against the commissioner and want to use the correct language. Is it that the commissioner helps plan the budget for the sheriff's office and then the more people they arrest, the more money he gets, thus using his office for permission, personal gain. Am I on the right path here? Yeah, that was in May of 2024, but good things take time. In June of 2025, just over a year later, this doozy of a headline hit the local news. Holmes county commissioner facing two felony charges.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, it's interesting who the criminals actually are. And just think if he would have just done a little bit of Molly and gone dancing, he would have had a whole other path in his life. He would have been a good person. Love would have opened some doors in his mind. I can't even go, I can't, I can't, Josh, I can't. I cannot stress enough.

[Josh Dean]

Instead, he saw a footloose as a kid and it put him on a

[Rory Scoville]

trajectory and he was like, I like John Lithgow.

[Josh Dean]

I must stop all Kevin Bacon's for the rest of time. Yeah, that's right. Our old friend Brandon Newsom, the Holmes County Commissioner was charged with two felonies related to his bail bond business. According to documents filed with the state, Newsom allowed unlicensed individuals to accept money on behalf of his bail bond business, which is illegal. What's more, for a period of time, Newsom also worked as a sheriff's deputy while running his bail bond business, which is very illegal. Yeah, the icing on the cake. Governor Ron DeSantis signed an executive order immediately suspending Brandon Newsom from his seat on the Holmes County Commission. Two weeks later, the Florida Department of Financial Services officially suspended his bail bond agent's license.

[Rory Scoville]

It's interesting because he just would have thought they would have been on his side and been like, you can do whatever you want. Zero accountability.

[Josh Dean]

I think they were until it gets into the media and then they're like,

[Rory Scoville]

oh, then they go, oh, we got to do something.

[Josh Dean]

That was one bad egg or one bad apple. What's the. It's one bad apple, I believe, is what.

[Rory Scoville]

Well, it's apples and eggs. You can't compare them. It's apples to eggs when it comes

[Josh Dean]

to rodeos, to quote Sheriff Tate, guys

[Rory Scoville]

Look, when it comes to RuPaul's Drag Race and Rodeos, you just cannot compare the two. It's apples to eggs.

[Josh Dean]

By the way, Newsom pled not guilty, of course, to both charges. He's set to appear in Holmes County Court this fall.

[Rory Scoville]

He also owns Holmes County Court. We should know. We should know. He owns it and all the employees there work for him.

[Josh Dean]

I should say that I don't know for sure if his charges are a direct result of the complaints filed by Soul Fest attendees, but it seems pretty likely.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Or at least that the attention caused by the festival and the anger by those well meaning shroom takers and body painters at a minimum surely did not help his cause.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, that's right.

[Josh Dean]

So what are the lessons to be learned here? What do you think?

[Rory Scoville]

One, just common sense. Don't go to a music festival in a small southern town if it's. If it's edm. I mean, sure, there's probably certain music you could assume is going to be welcomed and supported, but also, yeah, you got to kind of. I would just know, like, oh, this is probably going to be a nightmare. Just on your own. Just assume it's going to be a nightmare.

[Josh Dean]

I just try and avoid Florida, period. But I realize that's not always possible.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, it's not. It's not always possible.

[Josh Dean]

Also, if I'm organizing a festival, I might think twice before hosting it. In Florida.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

After all, a very special place with high moral standards, as we see every year during spring break.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah. Or do it in Orlando, where it's kind of expected.

[Josh Dean]

Or Fort Lauderdale.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah. Tampa. A lot of other options than Ponce de Leon.

[Josh Dean]

On the other side, I would say don't bite the cops. If I have one. One critique of the festival goers. Maybe don't bite cops.

[Rory Scoville]

We put the cart before the horse because that we should have. That should be our number one thing.

[Josh Dean]

Don't bite the cops. But no.

[Rory Scoville]

Got into how much Florida bugs us.

[Josh Dean]

I would also add don't do PCP and anything, but also pcb, lsd, ketamine, and mushrooms all at the same time. Brace yourselves, people.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, yeah, right. Sparse it out. It's a. It's a four day festival.

[Josh Dean]

And for the love of God, do not climb into the belly of a robot DJ stand unless you're prepared to scrap. Yep. Is all this making you nostalgic for Burning Man?

[Rory Scoville]

I just miss it so much every second. Oh.

[Josh Dean]

After the break, our final segment, a festival related quiz. Perhaps. We shall see.

[Rory Scoville]

Seems likely.

[Cal Penn]

Hey, everyone, it's Cal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project, Hail Mary Massive Sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.

[Ray Porter]

I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo, yo, yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.

[Cal Penn]

Listen to Irsay the Audible and I Heart Audiobook Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Josh Dean]

Hello and welcome back to Crimeless. A safe space for robot DJs and bail bondsmen as long as they play by the rules.

[Rory Scoville]

It's now time for Lane's game.

[Lane Rose]

Hell, yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

Lame.

[Lane Rose]

So when researching this episode, I realized I knew very little about rave culture. So I wanted to test your knowledge.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, I love this.

[Lane Rose]

And I also wanted to set Rory up for a win. So yes. Josh, get ready.

[Josh Dean]

I feel like he won last one because he was described as excellent.

[Rory Scoville]

Josh, Josh, you're living in the past, okay? You gotta let these things go. We have to move forward.

[Josh Dean]

Okay. Thank you. You're right, you're right. I'm not gonna dwell. Let's move on.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Today is a new day.

[Lane Rose]

Have you been to any music festivals? Josh, you square?

[Josh Dean]

I did. I went to one in Montreal just this summer.

[Rory Scoville]

Where'd you go, the jazz festival?

[Josh Dean]

No, it was Ocega. It's like a. It's kind of Canada's Lollapalooza. I took my kids. They really wanted to see Tyler, the creator.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, yeah.

[Josh Dean]

Who was, I have to say, awesome.

[Rory Scoville]

I love that. That's great.

[Lane Rose]

Cool. Okay, so maybe. Maybe you. You'll know some of these. All right, first one, tell me what these mean. B2B.

[Josh Dean]

Back to back, business to business.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, God.

[Lane Rose]

Rory's a little closer. It's two or more DJs playing a set together. And also, this is what I gathered from people online. I'm sure these definitions are fluid.

[Rory Scoville]

Also, this is all par for the course for me. I don't usually get. Rory was right. I usually get. Rory is closer to the thing.

[Lane Rose]

All right, how about Flow Arts?

[Rory Scoville]

It's going to be a light show. It's going to be light based entertainment.

[Josh Dean]

It's a type of dancing.

[Lane Rose]

I think Rory is more right par for the course.

[Rory Scoville]

Rory's closer.

[Lane Rose]

It is dance performance that uses LED lights. Yeah. Or parts.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, wait, we were both right. Wait, it's a dance performance.

[Lane Rose]

It's a flash performance. You just.

[Josh Dean]

I think we're both right.

[Lane Rose]

Okay.

[Josh Dean]

I think if you combine our answers. We were. We were.

[Rory Scoville]

If you combine our answers, we both get half a point.

[Lane Rose]

Okay, how about Kandi K A N D I.

[Josh Dean]

Drugs. Drugs.

[Rory Scoville]

Drugs. Yummy yummy drugs.

[Lane Rose]

No, that's not what. Sorry, guys. It's stretchy, colorful bracelets made from beads that often say words or phrases. They are made by ravers to give to other ravers at the event.

[Rory Scoville]

Well, you're actually wrong, because my drug is jewelry. My drug of choice is jewelry. And that's what I meant when I said drugs.

[Josh Dean]

I feel like it's also drugs.

[Lane Rose]

It could all.

[Rory Scoville]

I mean, but also it's. It's. It's the bracelets that you eat and you get high.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah, I mean, could be. I did watch a. A vlog of some girl who went to Soul Fest, and she said she was making candy, and now I understand it that she's making bracelets.

[Rory Scoville]

All right.

[Josh Dean]

Okay.

[Lane Rose]

All right. Plur. P L U R. I know this.

[Josh Dean]

Do you really?

[Rory Scoville]

I. I've heard this and asked about it and learned it and then didn't retain it. Plur. I don't know. Like so many things at school, it stands for something.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, it stands for something.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah, that's a hint.

[Josh Dean]

But that doesn't. That actually doesn't help.

[Lane Rose]

I'll give you a hint. Like it reminds people how to treat each other at raves and festivals.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, positive loving. I can't think of the word. Starts with you.

[Rory Scoville]

Unconditional respect.

[Lane Rose]

Together. You got it right. Peace, love, unity and respect. Okay, how about a side quest?

[Rory Scoville]

When the drug kicks in and you think it'd be fun to get to the merch table early and then on your way to the merch table. Let me finish. And then on your way to the merch table, you'd make a bathroom stop, which is near the refreshments, and you get something. I don't know. I actually don't know.

[Josh Dean]

I'm gonna say. When you're on one drug and you take a different drug, a second drug.

[Lane Rose]

Rory is more correct. It is when you leave the group to go off on your own.

[Rory Scoville]

All right.

[Josh Dean]

Wow. He's kind of.

[Rory Scoville]

I love that all of my answers that are correct are technically gray.

[Lane Rose]

Conditionally, yes.

[Rory Scoville]

We don't really know.

[Josh Dean]

A case could be made that he's correct.

[Rory Scoville]

We can't say it for sure. Is stepping in the right direction.

[Lane Rose]

All right, what about the Wook flu?

[Josh Dean]

Oh, yeah, that's gotta be a dance.

[Rory Scoville]

The Wook flu is Covid. It's actually Covid. You know, in the fish culture, they call people Wookies, but that's not rave culture. Some people are labeled that way.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, I gotta guess. It's what Han Solo called a hangover.

[Lane Rose]

No, I will say. I mean, Rory's.

[Josh Dean]

Rory's pointing at the camera. I feel like that means I won.

[Rory Scoville]

I honestly was like, that's a great guess.

[Lane Rose]

A wook is someone who is, like, free spirited and laid back and really into the festival lifestyle. And when you have the wook flu, that means you get sick after a rave or a festival. Festival.

[Josh Dean]

Oh, hangover. So I was close. Also, it is what Han Solo would call a hangover. I feel like it may not be what he actually does, but he would.

[Rory Scoville]

Josh is putting theoretical answers together, and they're pretty incredible.

[Josh Dean]

Appreciate the effort in the Star wars universe.

[Lane Rose]

This is not a Star wars quiz, however.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah, that's right.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, that bar that they go to, you know the one.

[Rory Scoville]

Jazz. Space Music's not bad.

[Josh Dean]

I mean, it was ravey, right? It had elements of a rave.

[Rory Scoville]

Yes, I'm with you.

[Lane Rose]

Sure. All right. A ground score. What's a ground score?

[Rory Scoville]

You found something. You found a pill on the ground. Drugs. More drugs. Eat that shit. 5 second rule.

[Josh Dean]

Yep, exactly.

[Lane Rose]

Yes. It's something you find on the Ground. Usually drugs, but sometimes refers to small items like a bean sprout clip or tiny glass bone figurine.

[Rory Scoville]

I bet that's not as fun as drugs.

[Josh Dean]

I found Somali. I found a tiny bean sprout clip.

[Rory Scoville]

I found a nerd from a pack of nerds. Someone dropped one nerd. Our scores are different.

[Lane Rose]

And finally, caking. What is caking?

[Rory Scoville]

Well, look, I'm not an idiot, and I know it doesn't have anything to do with baking. I'm not fucking stupid. But doing edibles that you baked.

[Josh Dean]

I know that I just said, like.

[Rory Scoville]

I know I put up my own walls right before I gave the answer that goes against those barriers, but. Well, I guess everything would be an edible, really, in a way.

[Josh Dean]

But when you think about that was deep caking.

[Rory Scoville]

I don't know. I actually. I don't know.

[Josh Dean]

I'm gonna say body paint.

[Lane Rose]

Neither of you are right. It is when Steve Aoki throws a cake in your face during his set.

[Rory Scoville]

I. I would have never guessed that, but I've heard of that.

[Josh Dean]

Yeah, you have. Yeah. Is that you being serious?

[Rory Scoville]

Yes, I have heard of it and I think I've seen it. I think I've seen a clip of him doing it. It's like a known thing that he does. Oh, yeah. Smash Town, usa. Yeah, I think that actually would be fun.

[Lane Rose]

I think it would be fun, too.

[Rory Scoville]

Oh, he's got a pretty. Pretty incredible aim.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah.

[Rory Scoville]

No way he hits this target. No way he hits this target.

[Josh Dean]

Whoa.

[Rory Scoville]

Whoa.

[Josh Dean]

What?

[Rory Scoville]

No way. I'm impressed by that. I support that.

[Josh Dean]

You gotta search Steve Aoki. Cake. Look, he's gonna hit the kid.

[Rory Scoville]

What?

[Lane Rose]

The kid loves it.

[Josh Dean]

His accuracy is amazing.

[Rory Scoville]

I know. I guess when you throw enough cakes, you start to learn the trajectory of, you know, how to throw the cake.

[Lane Rose]

Cake Physics. I think Rory won.

[Josh Dean]

I think on that note, Rory. Oh, he definitely won. He had more that were in the ballpark of being wrong.

[Rory Scoville]

Also wrong. Just better wrong.

[Lane Rose]

Yeah. Yeah. You excelled at being wrong.

[Rory Scoville]

Yeah.

[Josh Dean]

All right, well, we'll see you guys next week.

[Rory Scoville]

Bye.

[Josh Dean]

Crimless is a production of Smartless Media, Campside Media, and Big Money Players in partnership with iHeart podcasts. It's hosted by Rory Scoville and me, Josh Dean. Our senior producer is Lane Rose. Emma Siminoff is our associate producer. This episode was written by Lane Rose and me, Josh Dean. We're sound, designed and engineered by Blake Rook with support from Ewan Lytramuin. Mark McAdam composed our theme song. The executive producers at Campside Media are Vanessa Gregoriadis. Matt Sher and me, Josh Dean. The executive producers for iHeart podcasts and Big Money Players are Jack O', Brien, Lindsey Hoffman and Matt Apodaca. For Smartless Media, the executive producers are Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, Sean Hayes and Richard Courson. Bernie Kaminski is head of production. The associate producer is Matty McCant. A special thanks to our operations team, Ashley Warren and Sabina Mara. Do you have a question, comment or confession for the Crimless team? Email [e-mail] and if you enjoyed Crimeless, please rate and review the show wherever you get your podcasts. It helps people find the show and also makes us feel validated. Unless you're mean, in which case keep it to yourself. We'll see you next week. Crimeless Nation Foreign.

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