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Olivia James
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
and I just turned around and I hauled ass out of there.
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Olivia James
I was done.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I wasn't dealing with that.
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Olivia James
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me. When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like
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Olivia James
it is waiting for me.
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Ryan Seacrest
And he begins to tell them that he saw a ufo.
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Olivia James
They're basically like, what are you talking about?
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's seven foot up on a tree peeking around it. And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.
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Olivia James
As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Hey everyone, it's Brandon from Tinfoil Tells. Bringing you another episode. On this one today I speak with author Olivia James. Olivia believes that she was part of a program and not only that, but she also, in a past life, was A demon. So we'll get into all of that here in a few minutes. I'd just like to say thanks to Cult of Conspiracy for having me be a part of their affiliation. Thanks to you, the listener. I hope you guys enjoy it. And if you do, you can always follow Tinfoil Tells on the official Tinfoil Tales stream. Just look for Tinfoil Tells wherever you listen to podcast at and you will find it. Like subscribe whatever it is you got to do. You can hear all the other episodes that are available. You'd like to help support Tinfoil Tales, there is a Patreon. Make sure to check that out. You get exclusive content plus all the episodes ad free. And it's only 1.99amonth. My documentary, the Mississiniball Triangle is now available for purchase on dvd. If you're interested in that, you can reach out to me. Follow me on all the social medias, Facebook, Instagram, X. You can shoot me a message that way. And if you'd like to be a guest on Tinfoil Tales, you can send an email to tinfoil tales podcastmail.com or go to tinfoiltels.com and go to the contact section. But on that note, again, thanks to Cult of Conspiracy. Thanks for listening and we will check you on the next one. Like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight. Olivia James. Thanks for coming on here and talking to me.
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Olivia James
Thank you for having me.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself?
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Olivia James
Sure. My name is Olivia James. I have two books. They're called the Gray Mouse series and one is called Gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control. And my newest one is called Gray Mouse Purgatory and it delves into a lot about MK Ultra conspiracy, the paranormal, and even occult.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
How did you come about writing stuff like this? Like, was there something that kind of put you on this pathway of. Yes.
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Olivia James
Yes. So as I went through my healing process, I found writing to be very therapeutic and to, you know, be able to get out everything that I was experiencing and putting it into words has been like the best experience. And also I'm able to give that information to other people.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Do you have experiences from any of this or like, how does that fall into with the books or like the topics of the books?
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Olivia James
The books are ex. Pretty much exactly what I was experiencing. I actually did a lot of work.
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Ryan Seacrest
I've.
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Olivia James
I've been learning. So I started off doing a lot of hypnotic regression with various hypnotherapists. I found a really good one and then I also started Working on. That's where some of my abilities came back to the forefront. And I learned how to do astral traveling, bilocation, remote viewing, which I. I call. Sigh. Remote viewing because it's just not. I'm not doing a scientific process where I'm using coordinates. It's actually a psychic ability. And I also do something called hosting. And actually spirits and entities taught me that word. They told me what I was doing was hosting. So it's a new kind of fresh way to describe it. It's not exactly channeling because I'm not just using words through my mouth. I'm letting an entire being person take over my body and speak. So they're. When they're inside my body, I'm pretty much like in a, you know, warm, dark place, just resting while they do it. And I don't feel any pain. I don't get any psychological or physical trauma. So I always say I don't recommend it to other people because it's specific to me. It's an ability I have. So I wouldn't recommend other people try to do this hosting.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Now I'm not really familiar with any of that type of stuff. I've talked with people that have had like these experiences and everything else, but I've never heard the term osteen before. So that's new to me.
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Olivia James
Yeah, it's a. And I had never heard it before either before. Actually a demon named Bacchus told me that's what I do. So it was really interesting to get information, you know, specifically from an entity saying I'm. What I am called is a host, a spirit host. Entity host.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Well, if you want to start from the beginning.
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Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
How all this happened, I'm going to turn it over to you. We can just dive on into it.
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Olivia James
Sure. Okay. So I always like to start off with my introduction and that is, I always say that I had very interesting parents. So going all the way back to childhood, my parents, they had. They struggled a lot. But my father was recruited at a very young age, 18 years old, from a small town to do military intelligence on a German Russian border. So he spoke German and he was a code breaker and doing things like that. So it was really strange to have somebody, you know, some poor kid from a small town be recruited straight out of high school for that. And when he was done, he came back, you know, to. From where he was living at and he got into some kind of rougher type activities. He started working for, you know, the what. What we call now cartels. So if Anybody knows about, you know, the drug trafficking trade in the, you know, 60s and 70s, there was a lot. There's a lot of information about, out there about, you know, different agencies, three letter agencies that were involved in. In, you know, pushing that along. So it wasn't just this one group, you know, being on top. There was a lot of different hands involved in drug trafficking. And he ended up being a major drug trafficker in the 60s. And. And he was doing things, you know, with, with plane, with boat, car, bus, but mainly by driving. So he was doing a lot of that work. My mom actually helped him do some of that work. You know, they were doing a lot of smuggling and money laundering, that kind of thing. But why that's important is because. Because of his ties to the different, you know, coming out of military intelligence and being tied to, you know, different agencies, he ended up becoming a risk because he got addicted to his own product. So these people started seeing him more as a risk rather than, you know, a successful asset. So what they did was they were trying to scare him a little bit, and they were doing like these, you know, kind of like semi raids. You know, they would, you know, almost trying to scare him, scare him straight. And it didn't work. You know, he, you know, how he just couldn't, you know, get himself together. So on the second or third raid, they finally actually took him into custody, arrested him and everything. And there was this huge public trial. You know, it was always in the newspapers and things back then, but, you know, it looked like he was going to be going to prison for. For life, for a really long time based on the amount of trafficking he was doing. So it was pretty serious situation. And at the end of the trial, they just dismissed everything, no matter how much evidence they had. And all they said was they had the wrong person and they ended up giving him like a government job. So it's really strange to, you know, have, you know, all that happen. And at the end they're just like, never mind, we have the wrong person. It was the wrong name or something after this huge, long public trial. And I don't think anybody put two and two together based on that. So it was really interesting. But what I found out through my own research, through all my own, you know, regressions and things like that, I found. And I want to talk about how I can get information. I do, like I said, I do things called hosting. So that means I can talk to not only just dead people, but people that are living in terms. I do something where I describe it as talking to someone's brain. So it's just talking to different parts of them. I can talk to a different part of their personality, their spirit, their higher self, you know, like maybe like a heart center. There's so many different areas of a person to connect to, and you connect to different parts of their personality, sometimes even an alter in them. So it's. So that's kind of how I was able to obtain, you know, expanded information about this is by. Because my father's dead. He's been dead for a long time, but that's how I got the information is doing this work and hosting him myself. And actually he became, you know, he's almost like a guide to me now. Like if I go. If I try to go very deep and travel to the outer realms, he's one of the first people that steps over the line to greet me, you know, almost like keeping an eye on me now, because we were estranged pretty much for my whole life. We didn't, you know, we didn't vibe on a lot of things. And now I know why is because a lot of it was his guilt. A lot of it was his own personality about, you know, what had happened to me. And it was because in order to stay out of prison, he had to sign something over. And that means saving his own, you know, behind by signing me over to them. So that's how I got introduced into MK Ultra, is from his cowardice of not wanting to go to prison. So he. When he got out, when he got out of that and just started working, he tried to live a normal life. It was pretty normal. But I ended up getting taken to what I remember as a psychiatric hospital. And I was only about, I don't know, six or seven. And I think when I was a really young kid, I barely talked. I rarely ever talked. I was very quiet, very shy, very introverted, that type of. So at this particular. And I don't know how I went to this place. And they didn't remember. I've asked one of my living parents, you know, do they remember me ever leaving, you know, at night or being gone? And all they said was, it's possible. So that's not really a definitive answer saying, you know, did you. Did you know where I was every day at 6 years old? They just said. She just said, it's possible that I was gone. And I don't, you know, there's no other way to figure that out. But from what I've discovered is that I was taken to a psychiatric hospital on the East Coast. And this, this place is no longer open, but at the time it was this big, huge, massive place. They, they were pretty much self sustaining, you know, and we were in like a very small wing, a separate wing because there was a very small program. And it was me and another, another child who was a boy. His name was Jacob. So it was just us two. And the main programmer was a female. And I always describe her because I can still see, you know, see her in my mind, the way she looked and she looked. And I didn't grow up around these types of people, you know, like my parents are drug, drug traffickers. So to see somebody like her, she seemed very kind of like ethereal in a way. You know, she was always very dressed up and, you know, her hair pinned up just perfectly, you know, the psychiatrist. So I always kind of looked, looked at, looked up to her as like a. I don't know, like, just like it was so weird to see somebody like that. You know, I hadn't had that in my experience as a child. But she also had two assistants and what we used to call them orderlies, but now, you know, they have different terms for men, nursing assistants and that. But these two orderlies were doing a lot of the, the processes and practices that she wanted implemented. So what she wanted ultimately her, her main goal in this program was to create something called syncopated dissociat me and this other child. And what that would consist of is systematic abuse, torture, you know, psychological manipulation, things like that. They were doing that pretty regularly. And I want to say they were changing activities probably every 15 to 20 minutes from what I can remember. And it was, you know, once, you know, they would start off maybe, you know, making us watch certain images on a screen. They were, you know, coming and doing a little bit of physical abuse. Then they would switch over and take us to do, you know, some other things in with the psychiatrist, like hypnosis. She was doing hypnosis on us very young. She was also using LSD and electroshock therapy. So they were doing all these different activities. There were some sexual activities. There was a lot of psychological manipulation. So us as children, we never knew what to expect. And that was the point. They were trying to break down the psyche and to really.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Olivia James
Casino make make you go back to a base state. And then it really does happen. When you're constantly being abused and tortured as a child, you kind of leave that behind. And we got to a point where we didn't ask for anything. We didn't ask to use the bathroom. We didn't ask for food. They would, you know, they would hold food away from us and water and things like that. But that's what they wanted. That was their process to get you to a point where you never asked for anything. That's what they wanted. They wanted a blank slate. They wanted to create these kind of like open pockets in your brain, compartmentalize you so that they could rebuild you into what they wanted. And that was kind of what they wanted to do, is rebuild us. And they considered us successful because we were able to dissociate so well because of the trauma. Our, you know, pretty much our spirits wanted to leave the body. It's in a way to escape the pain and the suffering. And that's what we did as children. And I remember, you know, the only time that me and this boy Jacob could be little kids is when we would dissociate and we would leave the body. We would see each other and we would. You could, if somebody could look into that realm, they could see us playing. You know, that was the only time when our bodies were laying, being laying in a bed, being electroshocked or things like that. We would be playing in our spirit form together. That was the only time we could be children. So what she was, she was just making a lot of discoveries, I believe with hypnosis. And it was, I think we were both going so deep she was finding things she didn't know, she could find. That's how I felt like she was finding things that she had no idea that we're going to be there. None whatsoever. And so she was doing a lot of these where she was looking for, where she found past lives of mine. And that's kind of how I got referred out to other programs based on what she was finding within my own mind and my own spirit. She was finding things that, you know, other people wouldn't realize. So I was going to talk about some of the past lives I was able to discover and how. And how it became that she decided to choose me for these other programs because of these past lives. So one, the main past life that she really focused on was in ancient times, I was something. What they would call, like dark entity, something like that. I called myself. I was more of a dark gin named Harlem. So this particular jinn, what she would do is, and this was ancient times, she would kind of stalk someone. She might find somebody, you know, out, you know, walking their sheep outside of a village or something and, you know, pretty much try infiltrate their life and begin that oppression, that process for, you know, almost breaking them down and, you know, waiting for them to be so terrified and so stressed out that they would allow this being to take over their bodies. And that was what she wanted. And once she was allowed to take over their body, then she could begin her work of, you know, destroying that person in whatever way she could, you know, mainly making them hurt themselves or someone else, you know, pretty much destroying their life, you know, everything they had. So that. That's what something that a dark gin would do. And when she was a one saying she. But me, when I was a gin, I didn't really take a very physical form because physicality for entities and dark entities is very difficult to express. We much rather travel in our energetic form because that's very. It's very easy to travel. And when I was a jinn, I like to travel through the blood, like virus. So I would be, I don't know, I guess something more of a parasitical entity, because that's how I traveled and that's how I was able to sustain myself for some so many thousands of years is by doing the same process, finding someone new every time, once I had destroyed that person. And that's how I lived. That's how I fed. And I did that for a lot of years until I, you know, decided to try something else. But what was really interesting is this being. She didn't know that she was evil. She. Because she didn't know what evil meant. She just knew what she was. She just knew she was a jinn and that her brothers were the jinn. And she didn't think she was evil. She, you know, when I speak to that part of myself, she thinks that she thought she was doing what these people wanted to. She thought that they called to her to take over them and called to her to, you know, take over their mind and body and soul. She thought that's what they wanted. So she thought she was doing something good. She had no idea that there was a concept of evil, because she didn't consider herself evil. She just. Just was what she was kind of thing. So that was one of the main past lives that they wanted to kind of, I don't know, exploit in a way. I had. There was another one that they also saw that it's almost like foreshadowing of what I would be able to do in the future. It was in Italy, and I was. I was what they would consider, like, psychic medium in Italy. And this was, like, in the 1400s. And I was pretty well known in this particular village because, you know, I thought I was out to help people. I wanted to help people connect with their past loved ones and things like that. And, you know, and they would trade me for, you know, vegetables and other goods they would give me if I was doing this for them. So I was pretty much a medium then. And the Inquisition came to that town, and they. They found out somebody told them, you know, who I was and what I was doing. And they ended up coming to, you know, my house, and, you know, they tore. They punched me in the face. You know, they attacked me, and they dragged me back to this dungeon where they continued to do, like, their particular torture. Now, they hung me from a ceiling. So a lot of the torture, you know, happened while I was being hung from a ceiling by my arms. And I remember my uncle. I had two children, and my. My husband had passed a long time before that, you know, particular incident. But my uncle had taken my two children, and he brought them to this dungeon one day, and there was a really small, small little opening in the dungeon where they could see me. And he wanted just to see me one last time. But I wish he wouldn't have done that because I was, like, almost on the verge of death, and it was probably nightmarish for these two kids to even see me like this. So I thought that, you know, we all think that everybody's being burned at the stake, but I actually died from dehydration. And starvation, you know, And I really didn't have any feeling left in my arms at that point. And I was just. I was so angry. I remember that anger, that feeling of, you know, wanting something bad to happen to all these people and what they did. And it really. I really had the anger for men in that life. And, you know, I reached out, you know, I called out to everything that could help me, anything. And I feel like I attached, you know, some dark, darkness to me then, because I wanted anything that would answer, you know, to come and, you know, take care of these people who had done this to me and other women there. But. And then there was one other life that. It was about the. I want to say, late 1700s, early 1800s. And I was a male in that life, and I had been on my own for a really long time. My parents had died young, and I had almost lived, like, as a street child. And I had been, you know, traveling village to village for a long time. And as I grew into adulthood, I found somebody that I could like, a traveling companion that had the same, I don't know, desires in. Inside them. We were able to connect on that way. And what we would be called, I guess we would be called. I don't know, we would find somebody, you know, in these villages as we traveled. We would find some woman alone and attack her, you know, and she would meet her end and, you know, we would just leave her out in the fields or whatever. And we would do that. We just did that every time we went to a new village or a new city, we would do the same thing over and over. It was like there was something just dark inside us, and we would do that all the time. But there was this one time we went to a new village, and I think we had become very careless and very arrogant in what we were doing. So we had just found someone, you know, and a lot of. In those times, a lot of people, a lot of women were out just, you know, taking care of the fields and doing work outside. So we found someone that was on her own, and we attacked her and left her. And the villagers found out, and we had been to a local pub just drinking and laughing and giggling and all that kind of stuff. And they knew it had to be us because we were the only new people in the town. And there hadn't been anything happening like that forever. So they pretty much assumed it was us. And we had to run. And we ran, and we were hiding in this barn, and we thought we'd be safe there, but no they found us, they locked us in, and they set the barn on fire. I only remember at the last minute, I was trying to crawl up, you know, climb up higher into the rafters to get away from the fire. But obviously we burned alive. And we deserved it. That we deserve that treatment in that life. And I had one more life that I thought was important, too. And just because the fact that it. It contributed to, like, kind of, like my mindset. And it was. And I don't know the time frame of it. It was kind of ancient, but it was in Egypt. It looked like Egypt. Anyway. I don't know the exact name of it. I don't think we called it Egypt then. And I know I was a male, and I was what would be considered like, a slave. And everybody. There was hundreds of people just moving sand, and none of us looked at each other. We were like. I don't know what the word would be, like automatons or something. We all just had this blank stare, and we all just kept walking. Moving sand, all of us. Nobody talked, nobody interacted, nothing. It was just all work. And if you could. If I could look and see, you know, on. There's this huge being standing over everyone, and it was just one of them. And he would look like what we consider, you know, somebody that looked like Anubis. So I called them the dog people, though I didn't have a word for them. And we thought that he had killed our God because our God was a crocodile. And so we were pretty much infiltrated and taken over because we thought he killed our God, because our God, our present God was a crocodile. And he just made us constantly work. And you can imagine how strong these beings are if one of these can command, you know, hundreds, almost thousands of people just to do work just from one being. And he carried, like, a staff that had power. And I remember I was in a regression viewing this scene with a hypnotherapist. And what was crazy is that there was no time. There was no time. The limits of time had fallen away when you get into these different realms and these different higher states of consciousness. So I was there seeing him, talking to him, and he saw me. And the only thing he said when he spoke, because he said, get back to work. That's it. And he could see me in present time laying in the bed, you know, talking about this and doing this. And all he said was, get back to work. So these lives are what kind of got me, I guess, referred to another program.
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Olivia James
See terms and conditions 21/ so the psychiatrist at this hospital, like I said, I was only like six or seven. She referred me out to this gentleman, an older gentleman. So I went to his office and he had a very like neutral toned office. I didn't, it did. To me it didn't look like a doctor's office. That's why it was kind of strange to be there. And when I got there it was a very elderly gentleman, very frail looking, I don't know, maybe 80s, early 90s, I couldn't tell. And he was balding and he had these really small wire rim glasses on. And you know, his name was Dr. Green. And I don't know for sure, I only know him as Dr. Green. But a lot of people say that Dr. Green was an alternate name for what they consider somebody named Mengele. And I don't know that I only remember what he looked like and that he was called Dr. Green. So he had two people there and they were twins and he wanted them to examine me because I had been referred to him as kind of like a special, you know, case. So he had these two twins and they were adults and they were kind of like, I don't know, very light pale colored, almost like an albino condition. And so what they were doing in this examination, they weren't doctors, but they were like opening my eyes, eyes, looking in my ears and they finally were looking in my mouth. You know, they made me open my mouth and say ah, you know, and I did everything they said and they, when they looked at my mouth, they turned to Dr. Green and they said, yes, we found it. We can see the thing inside her. So but what they were wrong about is that they thought they saw kind of like, I don't know, I guess, an attachment. And that was something that this project was trying to harness because there's a lot of power in the dark side. And they thought that I was possessed in a way. They were trying to target, you know, possessed children, those people, to try to, you know, almost capture that strength of, like, these entities that were trying to take over other people. And they called it Project Traveler. So that's what he was doing is trying to capture that, you know, learn about that, make it scientific in a way. But they were wrong because they thought it was something they could remove from me, maybe, or control. And they couldn't, because whatever they were seeing inside me, they were seeing my old dark gin self. And that's not something I can erase because it's just part of me at my cellular, cellular level. I can't erase past lives. I can't do anything like that. I can't eliminate it. So they were kind of, you know, off. And I didn't feel harmed by Dr. Green. I want to say that, like, you know, people, you know, he has this crazy reputation, but I. He didn't harm me. But let me tell you, when being around him, you do feel very much on edge. And I always describe it, like, saying he was very old and very frail, but I felt. When I was around him, I felt like I was in a cage, tiger. Like, just that feeling of dread, like something he's not to be messed with type. So that was part of my upbringing and how I got into the MK Ultra and how they found some of these, you know, abilities in me or, you know, what they could, you know, foster in me as a. And return myself almost to, like, a previous, you know, state in a way, you know, to bring these old abilities back out into me. And I really didn't know I could do all this stuff until, you know, just about, I think about four years ago or maybe five years ago now, I just started to have, you know, these kind of things returning, you know, to my life and knowing that I can do it.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I was actually getting ready to ask you, when did you start discovering this?
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Olivia James
So, yeah, so. So I started discovering it. I was having a lot of. And I. Like I said, I didn't know I could do these things. And, you know, me, I've. I'm not. I don't consider myself brave. You know, my whole life I've been terrified of, you know, the dark, paranormal, occult, all of that stuff. It was very scary to me. I just wasn't somebody that was brave enough to kind of face that. And now I kind of can see why, because of the. Some of the stuff that happened to me as a kid and that I had suppressed for so long. And, you know, just being, you know, if you said, you know, I tell people, you know, you know, I can actually let a demon take over my body, you know, how would that. How does that sound? And, you know, it sounds insane and sounds like, who would do that? You know, who would be brave enough to do that? I definitely wasn't somebody that thought I could do that. So I was having. From what? Okay, so this ties into part of the other part of it. I had gotten this job, and it was about. I think about six years ago now. Five or six years ago, I had gotten a new job. And it was a professional kind of like office job, human resources type. And I was just having constant, like, anxiety and panic attacks with this job. Nothing, nothing about it could get me to calm down. And I thought there was something wrong with me. I had no clue what was wrong with me.
[33:33]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
But every.
[33:34]
Olivia James
Every day was just, you know, crying. There's tears, and it's just not an environment where I should be doing that. And I just knew something was wrong with me. And I felt like, kind of like this push. Like something was pushing me to try this. And I. I had never tried it before. I never thought about hypnosis or hypnotic regression, but I've just felt like something was, like, behind me, you know, kind of cheering me on to try this. And so I did. And I had to do it, like, in one week. And I had to find somebody, literally, I got to do it now kind of thing. And it was really strange to be able to find somebody that would do it, like, within, you know, a day of asking them. So when I ended up doing this, I. It was crazy that I ended up going under for almost six hours, and I didn't even know that I could even go that deep, you know, and obvious, saying the most outrageous things, you know, stuff that I would never, you know, expect myself to say, never, you know, and there was demons speaking through me, aliens, animals, you know, past lives, ghosts, you know, discarnates. Like, anything you can think of was, like, just rushing to talk through me. And I was literally under hypnosis for almost six hours. And it. When I came out of it, I just was mind blown. Like, I can't believe it, you know, I can't believe I said all this stuff, you know, it was really strange to be me. So I tried to hey, it's Ryan
[34:55]
Ryan Seacrest
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[35:42]
Olivia James
I started kind of looking into kind of a lot of the stuff I said, like how, you know, where did this come from? You know, I was starting to talk about, you know, you know, memory suppression technology. I was talking like that in, you know, in this session, like, you know, very formal and very like the words were coming out. And it was really strange how my voice changes throughout the entire six hours. You know, with different, yes, different people took over my voice changes. You know, it was so interesting. So that's kind of how I got started doing the hypnosis. And then I and I think this kind of validates not just me and my story, but other hypnotherapists. I used probably like five or six people at least by now almost seven people to make. I want them to, you know, be validated and for people to know that nobody is coaching me to say things. I have everything recorded. I have everything transcript, you know, so there was nobody coaching me. I pretty much all they have to do is count me down and watch me. And I pretty much speak on my own the whole time because it's always something trying to enter my body and, you know, talk. And the first people that shove everybody out of line is demonic entities because. And I'm just saying that everybody gets mad when I say this, but I say it's because they consider themselves gods. I'm not saying I consider them gods. They consider themselves that and you know, know, because I was a jin GS Jin do consider themselves God. That's just how they talk. I'm not saying it's true or not true. That's just the way they speak. They consider themselves like trickster gods. So, you know, that's why they push everyone to the side. And, you know, sometimes if I go under hypnosis or start even get into a meditative state, you know, the demonic entities are the first ones to kind of show up. And they told me it's because. Because when I start to, you know, you know, shift into a different state of consciousness, and I start to do this because I go so deep that it's like they're in complete darkness and they see, like, this light starting to shine, and then they know it's me, and they kind of like rush. So that kind of is how they know it's me. And then they. It's almost like having like this big line of people waiting to speak. And whoever, you know, who gets to be in the front of the line, it's usually that them, because, you know, they're kind of like the tough guys in the area, so they get the chance to speak first. And usually when they speak, I let them just say what they need to say. And it doesn't scare me because it's so weird to say that it doesn't scare me because, you know, some of the stuff they say is very. Could be terrifying to other people. Just me talking about it scares other people. So I totally understand. If people get afraid of it, I understand. You know, imagine how I felt when I started doing it. You know, I. I didn't know I could do this kind of thing. And they would never. It would never be something that I would pursue because I was terrified of it. But now that I. I gotten so much information from all different types of entities and letting them speak and say stuff that, you know, we would never know if they didn't. If I wasn't allowing them to say this through me, we would never have this information because I don't think anybody has the balls to do it. You know, it's a little bit scary for any. Everybody. So I.
[38:54]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
We have a question before we get going. So when these things are speaking, I want you to speak for them. How do you know what they're saying is truthful?
[39:06]
Olivia James
I guess because I. I don't judge it by truth. I let them just speak plainly. I don't say they're lying or not lying because then I could say that about any being that came forward. You know, my father or anybody else. And when I'm on. When I'm doing this, I'm in my highest state of consciousness. That's what allows me to do this. So there's no tricking me. There's no fooling me. I never feel fooled or tricked like that because it's a. It's my most highest self. You know, my strong. The strongest part of me is doing this. So. And it's not just darker entities that I've been able to do this with. I've. I've been able to let very, you know, what do you call it? I don't want to say famous, you know, big time religious figures speak. Spoke through me and that was amazing. I let source speak through me. That was probably my favorite thing that I've ever done, is that. That and, you know, very much energy filled. So, you know, I don't want people to think that I'm just like calling demons. I'm calling. I'm allowing myself to be open to anything, to get information for other people to come and speak through me. So do people try to say deceitful things? You know, the. The ones that I find to be most deceitful are humans, which is really interesting. The people that have tried to be most deceitful and try to talk the most crap and, you know, really try to you harm is other humans that I've let you know, that I've tried to connect with and kind of speak to, like handlers. There's us, there's a big group of handlers that I've been able to get information from about how. And they really look really interesting because when I saw them, they're. These are people sitting behind computers. It's that term the guy behind the chair. You know, that guy that's in the chair, that's them. They're not like, as scary as we think, you know, because they're doing all this horrible stuff to people. You know, they're targeting people and doing this and monitoring people. But they really are these, you know, kind of geeks behind the computers. Because I've seen them. I've walked up right behind them in, you know, an astral state, and I seen what they're typing and everything. These are people on computers. So as scary as we thought they were just nerds behind a computer.
[41:18]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I always crack up when someone says nerd. I don't know, it's still just funny.
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Ryan Seacrest
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[41:25]
Olivia James
I. Do you want me to keep going or.
[41:27]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, you can keep going.
[41:28]
Olivia James
Okay. So I got taken into. Like I said, I got taken to the program and they were doing a lot of different experiments, you know, seeing what they could accomplish with that. And a lot of. They. Well, one of the Experience was experiments where they had me sit in this sensory deprivation. But it wasn't water or anything. It was just a dark room. They had me in a dark room. They had me, you know, tied to a chair, like a regular chair, and there was no light, anything in there. They didn't give me any food. They hooked me up to an iv, and they wanted me to do this hosting thing. So, you know, literally, they would. All they have to do is count me down and put me in a trance. And, you know, at that. You know, obviously, you know, a lot of people would find that difficult to think of. Like, you just. They're just counting you down and you're in trance? Yes, because I can do it now, and that's how I do it now. So it's basically a counting measure, and I'm. I can travel. So I was doing that as a child. Child. And they wanted me to host these demonic entities. And they were trying to see if they could make measurements out of it. You know, measurements of the body systems, you know, brainwave scans, you know, whatever was happening to my body, they wanted to see how that would be affected by having these entities within my body. And they wouldn't. They weren't feeding me. They. You know, they weren't. There was no hugs, no. You know, I'm just a little kid, and they're, you know, treating me like this. And I found it very conflicting that these humans at this place were torturing me, you know, all different types of ways. And it was entities that were keeping me alive. They were the ones that were sustaining me while I was in the chair because I didn't need to eat while they were, you know, taking over my body. And I thought, I still find that kind of strange, because I'm supposed to hate them and, you know, think they're evil and all that, but they were the ones keeping me alive while humans were torturing me. So you can see that can be conflicting to any child. You know, it was probably. And it's still conflicting to me a little bit, just to think, you know, I'm supposed to hate all these people and hate all these beings, but it was actually humans that, you know, started this whole process. So I was in a couple of those programs for a while. They're doing experiments, you know, and as a child, they had us doing kind of. I don't want to talk. There's more gory details in the book. You know, I guess I don't have to go into too much of that, what we call, like, Monarch training. It's they sexualize children in a certain way to do various jobs. There's more in the book about that. I don't have to talk about it too much here, but there was some of that going on. And when I was 13, they decided to kind of switch gears. And from the abilities that had kind of arisen in me, they decided that I would get more training in a different place. And they thought that I would be good for something else. And that was like personality profiling. So from what I remember, I was with this, I don't know, kind of like an older gentleman. And he was kind of dressed up in a suit and he had like a hat on. And I was 13, but I looked like I was 9. I was very small and very, I looked very young. I didn't look like a 13 year old. So he took me with him and it looked like we had gotten on a train or a subway or something like that. I hadn't, I didn't ask questions. You're not allowed to ask questions. So I didn't. And wherever he took me, we ended up on the Moon. And I know it sounds crazy, but there are bases on both the Moon and Mars. And on this base there's an underground base. And I can't remember the level, I'm not sure if it was four, level four underground. But what they wanted me to do was participate in a training class called Psionics. And I remember the teacher there, and I remember having a really hard time in this class because I was the only kid and the rest of it was, was adults. And you know, their abilities weren't like I was used to. They had other abilities. Like I just didn't understand what they were going to do with them. Like one gentleman, he had an ability where he could produce excess moisture in the body, which I thought that sounded kind of weird, but it looked like it was just leaking from his fingers. But I, I don't know how, what they were going to do with that. And then there was other people that are telepaths, you know, energy readers, you know, things like that. And like I said, my teacher, she was a young, she was younger. To me she looked young, but she acted way much older. She looked like she was in her 20s, but she acted like she was in her 60s or something like that. That's the, you know, that's the feeling I get from her. It's more like a 60 year old. But she was very stern with me. And at the time I didn't take it well. But now I I can see that she was trying to help me stay alive. And she, you know, she always. I remember the one phrase she always told me. She always said one look, one word. She said, I have to be able to read the room and read each person with just one look or one word. Because she knew that if I was going to be doing this work, I had to be quick, I had to be thorough because some of it was going to be used in dangerous situations like corporate espionage and things like that. I had to be as fast as I could be. You know, you have to walk in a room, shake one person's hand, and know if they're a threat or not. That's how detailed you have to be with personality profiling. So I got trained there for about, I think, want to say, six months or so. And I always remember that there was a poster on the wall in our classroom. We had one classroom and it looked like there was no windows, obviously because it was underground, but it looked like a. Like an old co college classroom. And like I said that I was the only kid there, but I remember on the wall there was a poster for a general named General Land and he was going to be retiring after 20 years of service. So it was really. It's really weird that I always remember that seeing that one poster on the wall and you know, it was class every day, and then you would just go back to your dorm, you know, sleep, wake up, go to class constantly. So they really couldn't use me for personality profiling until I was older. And so when I was older, I got into a lot of. Of what? And all of these activities are forced. I just want people to know none of these are by choice or consent. It's all forced consent and forced by threat. So if you don't do what they say, you're going to be either dead or harmed or someone you know is. So you have to continue doing all these processes and all these jobs and missions that they want you to do no matter what.
[47:40]
Ryan Seacrest
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[48:25]
Olivia James
So they had us doing up until like kind of like my late teens and early twenties. They had us doing like, I guess we call, I call it beta tracking work. And it's, it's a pretty much what some people would consider like black widow training or something or programming. That's how they would program some of our altars. I forgot to talk about that. When I was in the psychiatric hospital they ended up creating 118 altars inside me, which that means there's 118 different personalities and in which there were about six of the front altars that were the main altars that were doing the portions of most of the work and the rest were probably like shifting altars. So these are some of the altars that were programmed to do these various jobs. There was an altar that did personality profiling. There was an altar that was a monarch altar that was more sexualized. There was an altar that did beta tracking and she mixed mult, mixed that with, you know, the personality profiling. And then there was a gray mouse altar. And that gray mouse alter is the one that did a lot of the corporate espionage work and trying to get in and out of buildings very quickly, that kind of thing. So after I, I was doing beta tracking work, like I explained it was this is something where you're infiltrating, trading, you have a mark, they give you a job and that we call people the mark. If there's a specific person, you have to kind of infiltrate their lives and pretty much you're recording. One of my alters has a photographic memory. So if I'm, all I have to do is be around this person and it's recording in my mind the things that I see, the things that I hear. So if somebody, and sometimes I won't know the information because it's so far deep in my mind. But if someone were to put me under hypnosis, they could go in there, you know, and use a code or something like that to get that information. That's, that's how they hide information nowadays. Just like thinking about some of these people that are doing, I don't know, different acts. Let's just say they're doing Things that harm quite a few people in our country. And then you see them on the news and they look like they're like in shock. Like they had no idea what was going on or they don't know why they did certain things. Sometimes you're programmed to do certain things and you won't remember because that information is so far deep in your mind mind. It would take like something like hypnosis or code, you know, a code breaking event to try to, you know, split that open to get that information. And they do that purposely for, you know, things like interrogation. So if somebody were to do something bad, if they get caught, they could never say who told them to do this, how it happened, how it got started. They would not even know. It would just be shut off way back deep into an altar. So that becomes how, how they, you know, use different people as assets and things like that. So I had been doing, I was doing beta tracking work for quite a while and getting involved with different people. Like I started relationships when they told me to. I ended them when they told me to. You know, I did whatever they said basically. And I was working for a couple of different agencies that were kind. Some of these agencies, they consider themselves, you know, good white hats or alliance. But in my experience they're not, they're not good people. And how can you be? If you're using abused children, you're recruiting them and you're forcing them to do work for you and dangerous work, you know, and bad things, it's not anything good. None of us to me, I don't consider any of us that did that kind of stuff. We're not heroes, you know, they're making us do bad things, you know, or else we're hurt. So after I got, I went through that for a long time. I ended up getting promotion. And they said it was promotion for a job well done. They considered me a perfect, almost perfect asset because I did everything they said. I'd never questioned them, I did. That's how we were trained to do everything they said. And so they ended up giving me a job on Mars. And this job on Mars was for personality profiling. I was going to be working in the corporate sector doing human resources, his work. And so this particular base that I was on, it was called McCreary Base and it was located in the south canal region of Mars. And I was kind of, when I first went in, I was in scout class entry level. And I got taken into ground force battalion for Mars Defense Force mdf. And my particular division was called Mariner. So. And I even have my service number. So in this particular division, like I said, I was underground 1st Battalion, but I was in the corporate sector. So I would have people come into my office. You know, all incoming recruits would stop with. They would start with me, you know, after they were doing their intake and everything, because I was going to be the person that would get them assigned to different various jobs. And I really didn't work with the super soldier population, anything like that. Those were people that were sent to Special sector. Like, I didn't really deal with Special Sector. If somebody came into my office that I felt needed to be referred out, I would definitely make a referral to something called like a special special sector where they could be evaluated and things for different jobs. Mainly the jobs that I was putting, placing people in these particular jobs is they would be like mining, you know, drilling, you know, water treatment, waste treatment, you know, agriculture. They even had an entertainment division. So we were putting people in those various jobs. So they were coming to my office. I would spend probably sometimes up to an hour with them and I would ask them, like a battery of questions, questions, but the questions just weren't. To get the answers, I had to use my profiling ability. And so I was basically reading their energy by, you know, you know, just the way their eyes look, their skin, their different body language, you know, facial expressions. It was so much tied into, you know, determining, you know, where that we may be best placed and where they'd be able to do the best work. And I'm sure they weren't thinking that they were going to come here. And so a of lot, lot of these. They used to only recruit out of, you know, force and things like that. But now there's a lot of voluntary recruits currently with the military. And they say they're going, you know, overseas and things, but they're not. They're actually going to Mars. So there's most mainly voluntary recruits now. They're not particularly having to kidnap, you know, children like they used to, but they. There are some. But now there's a lot more voluntary recruits. So like I said, I would take them into my office and then I would make my recommendations and I would send them to the general. And the general I worked under was General Asher. And he had an office kind of close to mine. It was all glass, and he had a secretary that sat out the front. But when I remembered this place, I. I don't. People think that if you're talking about Mars, you're thinking I was like fighting aliens and things like that. No, I don't remember. I only remember being in this one area and doing the same job every day. They wanted me to stay isolated, you know, they didn't want me to connect with a lot of people because they felt like that it would skew kind of my response results, you know, based on my ability. They wanted it, you know, I, they wanted me to stay the same. And I ended up actually being demoted because I couldn't stay the same. I was starting to have like bleed through memories, kind of like things. My programming was breaking down and it mirrored that in my, in my, you know, earth life here. Like when I said I about six years ago I had a job where I was having anxiety. It was because I was having, having memories of a similar job somewhere else. And that's how it kind of bled through and how I started to recover a lot of the memories is because of that job. Having a similar job, that's crazy.
[56:14]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
So I have some more questions before we.
[56:17]
Olivia James
Yeah, sure.
[56:18]
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Olivia James
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
for me, I've talked to several different people about different types of things like this. But I always wondered and I know I get asked questions about it because a lot of people don't believe it just because that's what comes with the territory of this. But when you say you're working on Mars, I've had other people say they've been in secret space programs and everything. Can you explain how that actually works to like the average person? Like, is it your consciousness that they're taking and moving also in a different reality? Like how does all that actually work for me?
[57:41]
Olivia James
I remember my body being there. I remember being physically there. I don't remember a clone Phone doing that work. I don't remember it, but I'm not. And I do remember when they did do the age regression to put us back. It was chemicals. It wasn't like aliens, you know, doing something to our bodies. It was like a chemical process. And what is really strange is I remember because I was. Since I was, like, in that corporate sector, I remember a huge stack of files that everybody signed up when they. We called it retirement. When they left the program and they went back, they just called it retirement. They didn't know. They didn't know all the details. Even though I knew a lot of it because I was in human resources. I knew more than, you know, a lot of the other people because I was getting them to sign forms. That was my job. They had to sign forms before they left to retirement. And some of those forms were saying that they agreed to. And especially even me, I signed this form saying that I was coded for reentry. That means when I was retired, returned, they could use me at any time because I had signed for it. So it's a double. You're giving, like a double consent without even knowing what you're doing. You know, imagine you. You go there and you're regressed, and they already have stuff on file saying that you agreed to be used at any time once you returned. It's really. And they do use people if they need somebody, depending on your location, depending on, you know, your certain current situation, they will use you. And all they have to do is react to activate a certain part of your brain or an altar through various ways in order to use that piece of you. They can do that. And I remember seeing all the forms and. And nobody said no to the forms because you weren't allowed to anyways. There was no saying no, I don't feel like signing this. That's not that. Even in the current military, you can't say, no, no, thank you. There's. I've never heard of anybody saying that. You can say no, thank you to that. So everybody signed these forms,
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
forms. And it almost seems reminiscent to something I've heard before. Like, they hold a 20 and back.
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Olivia James
Yeah, it is. And that's how long I was. There is about 20 years.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay.
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Olivia James
And then when I had the age regression, like I said, they called it retirement. They didn't say, you're being age regressed and sent back home. They don't say that. They say you, you know, you're finished with your term of service, you're being retired. And that's what we. That's how we knew it as retirement. And like I said, there's form signed. You even sign to be. You consent to be monitored and controlled your entire life. You literally consent to that. And you consent to saying, I will do all this, you know, and if I don't do it correctly, I can be. And they said you will result in termination. But termination doesn't mean lose your job. Termination means real termination. We sign that we consent to it. And it's crazy that we. And what I know is these freedom forms, from what I know, they hold up in all courts. So that's earthly courts, galactic, all of it. You can, you can put this, these forms that they have, you can put them up in any court. And they say they'll stand up, they'll stand in any court.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
If you were physically gone for 20 years, how does that explain to people that know who you are, like, where you've been at and everything, how does that work?
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Olivia James
Because they return you to a pre. A predestined state. So if I was gone, they'll just return me to that same day that they took me.
[61:14]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's where it gets confusing because it's like time control manipulation and everything. And when you're able to control time and send people through and out of time, it's like, what is.
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Olivia James
But we all can. We all can control time. You know, I myself, you even, I control time when I'm going under hypnosis and astral traveling and going in other states of consciousness and reaching other, other places in other realms. That's insane to me that I can do that. That's controlling time. Just one person in her bed doing that. So if I can do that, imagine what these people with all the money, all the power, all the connections and all the technology they want can do. Imagine what they can do. If I can just do that just by laying in my bed.
[62:00]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's the one thing like, I. I struggle with is the whole aspect of time and coming in and out of time. Like, for me, I just feel like if we're able to control time, I don't know why we're secretive about it at this point. I understand, like, why they. They're secretive into the extent. But like, I don't see why we're doing the things we're doing. Because at this point they're basically being God.
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Olivia James
Like, from what I know, it's power and conquest, conquest rules, and it's all these different factions fighting for power and conquest. And we, you know, we're just like kind of like the People, you know, that are being affected by their wars, you know, they're fighting each other for power and we're just being affected by it.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Wouldn't it create a paradox though, that at one point they could send someone back in time and wipe out somebody else that was doing something else? So therefore it's like a butterfly effect?
[62:55]
Olivia James
I'm not quite sure. I don't remember ever doing any type of time travel or anything like that. Like I said, I was used for very practical reasons, in my opinion. Practical reasons like, you know, intelligence work, corporate espionage, human resources, corporate work. So it's very different from other people Talking about doing 20 and backs when they're fighting, you know, being in this huge military groups and fighting aliens and stuff. I didn't do that. So it's, it's different for me to think about, you know, did I see a lot of weird things? Of course. Did I see people, you know, did I make people sign, you know, documents for augments and things like that? Of course I, I had to do that. They did sign that because I worked on a medical satellite station for a while and I was kind of like what they consider like a medical social worker. So if there was somebody that was assigned there to have like something augmented in their body or something, I had to, to, you know, kind of convince them to sign the papers. Because consent is very big in these programs and people don't believe that, but it was. We had people sign everything because if you're consent, if you're forced to consent, they can always fall back on that. Well, you sign this paper and, you know, that's a problem we have here on Earth, people signing things and you don't know what you're signing a lot of the time. Some. Have you ever seen those long documents that somebody sets in front of you and all you do is switch to the end and sign it just so you don't have to read it all, you know, that's a similar thing that they're doing. And like I said, I don't. I never saw time travel. I never participated in that. But just from my own personal experience, what I can do now, I can see how easily time can be manipulated. If I can see into other places that other people can't see, how is that, you know, how am I able to do that? You know, and there imagine what they can do, you know.
[64:42]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, well, we can keep on going into it. That's just something that always, every time I talk with someone about this, like when it comes to the concept of time I always just feel like if they're able to control time at one point someone's going to go back in time, which would be, maybe that's why we have Mandela effects. I don't know.
[65:04]
Olivia James
But like, and I, and I go back in time, like if I'm under hypnosis, it is a form of time travel. If I'm able to go back and see myself in the 1800s and I'm not just, you know, looking at it, I'm interacting with that time period. I'm able to sometimes even speak with those, you know, beings, those people, whatever. How is, you know, to me, it, it blows my mind to think when I do that stuff. It's like, isn't this kind of like time travel? But you know, I, I don't really call it that. I always say that I'm traversing the outer realms. That's my particular words I use for say traversing the outer realms because I don't know how to describe it and I necessarily wouldn't call it anything like time travel. But in a way it's similar. You know, if you're able to go somewhere, then you know, it pretty much is what I'm doing.
[65:56]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay, well, you can pick up from where we left off at.
[66:00]
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[66:58]
Olivia James
So that I ended up doing that human resources work for a long time and I ended up getting demoted because I was having break through memories and kind of like bleed through memories and it really messed me up. I couldn't do the work I was doing. I was acting very erratic, very emotional unstable. And in these particular positions on these different. In these programs, you're not allowed to have emotion. None of us really had real emotions. We didn't know emotion was. And from what I know now, I was probably depressed, but we didn't have a word for it. There was no option to be depressed. So I didn't really know what was wrong with me. And they. I guess they must have figured my programming was breaking down or something, so they demoted me. And I was doing crazy things like I was trying to search my, my. The general that I work for, I was trying to search his office, looking through his drawers, just because I. I knew something was wrong and I just couldn't figure out what it was, but I knew it. Same thing in this. When I'm. My previous. This current life. I knew something was wrong and something pushed me to try to find out it was the same. It was like mirroring other. Like bleed through. It really was a bleed through. So I ended up getting demoted and I ended up working just for the. As a ship liaison when the ships would come in with cargo and things like that and just signing off on ships. And I ended up getting retired after 20 years and returned but like I said, coded for reentry. So the last time I remember being, you know, physically taken in this, you know, current life is I think I was in my mid-30s and I was at home and I was, you know, just having a normal day. I was getting ready to go to sleep and I remember I. I don't know what happened, but I opened my eyes and I woke up and I was like in the basement of this huge house. It was huge, massive house. It was like this huge mansion. And you just know what to do. You wake up and your brain knows what to do. I woke up and I knew I had to get two kids out of the house. And when I looked down at my. I had on basketball shorts and a tank top. I had no shoes on, so that's not really ideal for a job. And these two children, they weren't dressed properly either and they had no shoes either. So I had to get two children out with no weapons. Not knowing really what I'm doing. It was very stressful. So I took the kids with me and I, you know, I just told them to follow me and we. I was going through all these different rooms and I really. It was like a room just a long hallway of bedrooms. So I wasn't really finding anything that would be a viable kind of weapon. I mean, it was just nothing that I could use. And I finally looked and I found an office. And in the office of this, it looked like a man's office. He had like a retirement gift. And it was like a knife with. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really know what this is, but a knife with all these different attachments on it. So it looked like a retirement gift because it said something, you know, kind of like on the outside. So I grabbed that and we had to search this whole house. This house was so huge, they had a back basketball court in it. So finally we were able to find like what I thought. What I think is thought was the garage door. And so I opened the garage door and as soon as I opened it, I saw there was a woman there. And she. Oh, detailed about seeing her. I can still see, you know, the lines in her face. And even now I can even think about it, I can see the lines in her face and how the makeup was settling in the lines. That's how detailed the memory was. That's how detailed it gets sometimes when you have these memory pulled from your subconscious. That's how detailed it is. So I saw her and she was immediately going to go for her keys and her phone and everything. And she had groceries in her hand and she tried. She dropped everything and went for it. And I just had to put the knife to her throat so she couldn't have a chance. And I just, you know, give me your keys kind of thing. And. And she didn't fight me. And she was bigger than me. She didn't. She didn't fight me. She didn't say a word. She handed the keys over and I took the kids and I. It was this black suv and I just left. And I don't know what happened after that. I know I was tasked to bring it back to the people who started the job. And that was it. And that was I. When I physically remember being taken. Like when I woke up, I snapped back my eyes back open and I was back at home on the couch and I was wearing different clothes. And I opened my eyes and I definitely remembered the whole experience. But at that time, I thought I was probably going nuts because there's. How can I remember for this? There's not. It's not possible. So at that time, I thought I was going a little bit crazy. So that's kind of how some of the things got, you know, how I got introduced into this whole idea of living kind of like a different life and learning about my abilities, learning about MK Ultra and the. What I'm. What is so interesting is a lot of the information about my parents. It's definitely verifiable. If somebody, somebody were to look it up, it's. It's there to find. So it's not like, you know, a lot of my story isn't able to be validated. It is so. And like I said, I. I record everything I do when I'm doing hypnotic regressions. It's all recorded. I have witnesses to all the things I said and all the things that's happened during, you know, hypnotic regression and things like that. So, I mean, do you want me to talk about things like what happened in regressions or what kind of direction you want me to go into?
[72:30]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I'm cool with whatever you want to talk about.
[72:32]
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[73:15]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I did have some questions regarding, like when you do these things, you said you've interacted with different types of beans and everything. What are some of the ones that you've interacted with?
[73:24]
Olivia James
Do you want names of people or.
[73:26]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Oh, I don't really need the names, but I'm just, I'm more curious like,
[73:30]
Olivia James
if it's more like names of like demons, they're demon demonic names.
[73:34]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's kind of where I'm. I'm a little taboo about that. So I don't really want to name drop them just, just because some of the listeners that I do have, I don't.
[73:43]
Olivia James
Gotcha.
[73:43]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't want them freaking out if they're hearing names because in some forms of religion, if you say their names, it's not really. So I don't want to make it too taboo.
[73:52]
Olivia James
Okay. Not too much of the occult.
[73:54]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay, we can talk about the occult. I just don't want to name drop them.
[73:58]
Olivia James
Okay, so. And that's a good point, because when I first started doing this and I started to hear a word in my. My head, and it was playing in triple. Like it. I was hearing the same word, and they said it three times over and over in my head. And I had no idea where that came from. And I didn't know what it meant until I looked up and I saw. And I was like, oh, this is figures of the stuff I can do. This is somebody trying to reach out to me and tell me what their name is. So that's a good point when you're talking about names, you know, because that's how they reach out to you in a way. In this particular one, he. That's how he reached out to me is by saying this name three. Three times. Saying his name three times in my head, and that's. That's his particular call or signal. So what I was going to say is that they used. They were starting to. There's a particular agency called Monarch Solutions, and they have, like, a catalog of services. And I had to get forced to work for them for a while. And what they're doing is they're kind of contracting people out that can do things like I can do, like hosting. They're doing it for kind of like what I consider, like, elites or family groups. And some of these families, they've been doing this process since hundreds of years. And there was a particular family that they wanted me to work for for a weekend. And these people, they wanted me to do something what is hosting? Their familiar spirit, or they call it a Damon. They don't say demon, they say Damon. So how they do this is they'll. They'll pay this company to have me come there for a weekend. And I didn't get treated badly, but I knew what they wanted me to do. They. They wanted me to host, you know, a spirit or an entity for them in this particular entity they had met in, like, the 1500s. It's something that had been brought down through the generations. And in the beginning, they thought that this, you know, being connected to this entity is how they stayed rich and powerful, how they kept all their resources to themselves. But this ENT told me that that's total lies. It's that they have that stuff because they're born into it. He said that he has no bearing on how they maintain their riches. Like, he doesn't know why they think that. So they would have me. And sometimes there was another person with me. They would have us, you know, kind of, you know, lay down. They start doing their thing. And not. It's not always, like, elaborate rituals or anything like that, because it's not needed for people to host. You don't. When people think that they're doing, like, all this high magic and things like that, I get it. And, you know, there's a whole process. Process. But people that can do hosting, we don't need to do all that. All I need to do is somebody to count it, count me down, you know, from maybe 20 to 1, and I can do it. So it's not like an elaborate ritual is needed. Like, you know, people think. Is it? Yeah, it's really strange that people think that you have to do a ritual to call forth being into this world. And it's not all you need is a portal person. And that's what Dr. Green used to call me. He used to call me, say I was one of the portal people. So all you need is somebody that has, like, an internal portal, which I do. I have a. I'm more of like a receiver. There's other people that are kind of like expellers. They push their energy out. Mine is more like a pulling in of the energy in my area, which is the solar plexus. So we would do this where we would lay down and we get, you know, ready to have this hosting. And what they wanted me to do is they wanted me to host their. Their familiar Damon, and they wanted to have dinner with him. So that's what I did. I let this thing take over my body. And I remember when I tried to stand up, that my legs felt like they were £100 each. Like I could barely walk. I was, like, trudging through mud trying to get to the table where they had all this food set up. And I don't think that they anticipated, you know, what it would look like to have, you know, and, you know, an ancient demonic spirit, you know, eat. Eat dinner at a table. They thought it would be something elegant. I think it wasn't, because he eats like an animal. And I was, you know, ripping and tearing food like an. Like an animal. And it wasn't anything like. I don't think it was the image that they got in their head of what an ancient being would do. And. And this being was very kind of, like, not happy with what they were asking for, because they were asking questions like that you would ask, like a psychic at a psychic fair, you know, about their business. If Their husband was cheating and things, and he was very upset. And these. These. The dark side has very strict hierarchy, and they have a very strict rule about respect and things like that. He find that. He found that very disrespectful that they called an ancient God to ask, you know, for tricks, parlor tricks. He said, you called me down here for parlor tricks, kind of. And some of these people are trying to, you know, make what they consider moon children or children of the moon, they call them. If somebody is, you know, having relations with somebody that's hosting, they feel like if some. There was a. How do I say it? If something were to come out of that, you know, a particular sexual interaction, they believe that product is part of a demonic bloodline, something like that. So they're trying to create their own army of antichrists in that way. So. And that's something that they still do, and they still. They still purchase that kind of thing. And there are people that can do it. It's not just me. There are other people, are mediums that can do this kind of thing that aren't. That are kind of, you know, either trained or had this brought out in them or, you know, they have fostered it themselves, something like that.
[79:44]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Now, some of these things that you've interacted with and they're speaking through you.
[79:53]
Ryan Seacrest
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[79:56]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
does. I'm trying. Do you understand? Like, do you see what they see? Like, do you have their memories at that time, or are you only able to.
[80:04]
Olivia James
I'm in the. I'm in their head, they're in mine.
[80:06]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay?
[80:07]
Olivia James
And it's a. It's a real merging of energies. Sometimes when they take over my body, I like to step. Step aside and lay down and take a rest. But there is never a time where if I felt any type of. Of threat, my higher self can, you know, kind of push through and speak. Because I've done it a lot of times if there was some things. And usually it's only in interactions with, you know, human handlers that I was, you know, hey, at least I will bust through. My higher self will kind of smash through and say, hey, these guys are up to no good. You know, in that, you know, not in such a nice way I say that, but I say these guys are up to no good. Just be careful of these people. Or if they're. I've had one entity that I did too, I try to warn people about because usually I don't really have a bad experience until, you know, unless they say something where I'm kind of like, well, yeah, they have really deceived people, you know, so there's a couple of them that people think are. They've kind of made a resurgence. And they're female, a female one. And people are getting tattoos of this particular one. They consider themselves reincarnation of this goddess. They think it's a goddess. And she did say. She told me, she's like. She wanted to thank everyone, you know, she said, thank you. You for bringing me back to life. Because these particular entities, they feel like they're dying out. They feel like. Because they consider themselves a race of beings, they say our race is dying out because nobody is here to worship us. Nobody is following us anymore because they think that, you know, we have found new gods in this particular, you know, lifetime. We have found new gods to worship, you know, gods of money and, you know, things like that. We worship other things besides the old gods, so they feel like they're dying. But this particular being, she considers herself a goddess, But. And she did tell me. She's like, yeah, I am. She thinks that people think she's an angel. She's like, I am an angel, but I'm an angel of darkness. And she wanted to thank everybody for bringing her life again by speaking about her, you know, by showing images of her and things like that, they're making her live again.
[82:12]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I do have another question regarding that. You said an angel of darkness. These beings, where are they from? And I don't want to go in, like, to the religious aspect of it or anything like that, but, like, when people talk about demons, obviously, then you have to talk about angels. And then if you talk about that, you have to talk about God, then it's almost like the whole Christianity or Judea, but.
[82:38]
Olivia James
And I'm not particularly. I'm not religious, so I don't want anybody to think that I'm subscribing to religion. I'm not religious person. I don't believe in organized religion. And I don't know why certain beings choose me as a messenger if I'm not even religious. It. It's interesting to me, too.
[82:55]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, because I'm. I'm like, where you are. Like, I grew up in a very Christian home, but I don't practice organized religion. I have my own beliefs. But for me, same, same.
[83:06]
Olivia James
I don't believe in it. Yeah, I don't believe in organized religion.
[83:09]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Like, I think there are definitely higher powers and beings and stuff like that.
[83:14]
Ryan Seacrest
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[83:14]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Don't. I don't know. I don't condone to what man tells Me to do same with me.
[83:22]
Olivia James
That's why I kind of take my, I use my own experience when people say something's evil and I'm like, well you know, in my personal experience I, you know, I've, you know, interacted with these, you know, certain beings and they didn't really, and I hate to say this and I don't want to scare anybody but when I'm holding, hosting a darker entity and then the light one, I don't really feel that different on the inside. I don't feel, you know, once people think oh I have, you know, positive energy or dark energy, I don't feel that it's energy and it's, you know, it's letting it take over my body. I don't feel like one is dark and one is light. I never, I've never felt that what
[84:02]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
determines really interesting light and which one's dark. Like that's where I want for me.
[84:07]
Olivia James
I, for me it's not going to be the same as other people because like I said, I've been to come very conflicted in fact that humans are doing the ones doing so much wrong to this earth. And you know, I'm getting a lot of really important information from darker entities. They're telling me things, they've been able to give me information on, you know, different programs and things using their all seeing information. And it's, that to me is conflicting. So you know, I don't really have an answer to that because I wouldn't be the person because I wouldn't consider, consider them evil. Knowing a lot of them, you know, meeting them and them and they even said that I'm one of their kindred spirits, you know, kind of because of how I used what I was in a past life. That's why they don't harm me. That's why they don't, you know, almost like protective spirits in a way. They say they're here, they won't let anything happen to me. So it, to me it's, it's hard for me to grasp that because, and especially not being religious, I can't say something is dark or light because I don't even, you know, think about in those terms.
[85:14]
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[86:15]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, for me, it's like, I feel like there are, I don't want to say misunderstood. I'm not trying to be Apollo, like, yes, apologist to any sort of side, but I think there's a lot of misconceptions between what's really good and what's really not good and darkness, lightness. I've said this a few times here recently on other episodes. A lot of people say that we are light beings, like, but I think a lot of people are dirt bags.
[86:48]
Olivia James
And how do, and how do we deal with it? When I say I'm inside myself a dark entity, and then I'm a good person in this life, how do I explain that to people? You know what I mean? And I've come across people, I, I definitely, because I talk about my reincarnation a lot. And they, there are literally people that said they've never done anything bad in any past lives. People have literally said that. They've already said, they say I've been good every life. And I'm like, well, I think you might want to think about that because do you think I, you know, in this lifetime who I am, do you think I would have thought that I was a dark entity before? Never. That would have never crossed my imagination in any way. But it was a huge wake up call for me to see that. There, there's so much, much that we haven't even become aware of yet because we haven't. We're, we're afraid to, you know, look into that other parts of ourselves.
[87:41]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't know how the average person would be able to do that. Is there a way that they could?
[87:48]
Olivia James
You know, a lot of it is even just meditating, even getting to a point where you're reaching that Meditative state. That's. I did a lot of practice like that on my own, just meditating. And of course, when, at first, when I first started, started doing it, I had a lot of V2K experiences because whatever was trying to control me knew that I was getting close to something very special. And they would always send me a mental message, you know, if you come any close. I remember this exact phrase when I would. And there was no other way for me, this to happen. There was nothing around, no phones, no nothing. It was me meditating in my own bed during the day. And it said, if you come any closer, we're going to take, take everything from you. They literally told me that. So it was a real threat to say to stop talking about this, stop searching, stop looking into this, stop telling people what you can say, you know, what you can do and what you found. That's not something they want out, you know, to people to know, you know, because I see how, how it can affect people because me being able to do this, it has dropped a lot of fear away, away from me. You know, fear that I had of like the dark and the dark side and evil. I was terrified. And a lot of that fear has kind of dissipated. Imagine if a lot of other people were able to drop that fear, you know, what then, what about all the people that are trying to keep, keep us in that fear state? What's going to happen then? If a lot of us drop the fear, you know, of these things and, and not being controlled by it, it. It's. I can't even imagine what could, what could happen now.
[89:23]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't know. It's a very taboo subject, especially for people that are super religious, because when you talk about things like this and they're. You're conversing with demons, they're manipulative, they're evil. They're obviously going to tell you things just to try and get your soul and all sorts of things which I don't understand.
[89:41]
Olivia James
And I understand their ideas, I understand what they're saying, but that has not been my experience. And it, like I, I said, it's not. They are not the only people that I have hosted, like recently I just hosted. It was a couple months ago, Jesus and his mother Mary. And like I said, I'm not religious. So to have them come through and give me the most detailed information about the crucifixion, about, you know, what happened to her during the day of his crucifixion, it was mindblowing. I'm not even religious. And I was mind blown about what had happened that day and what he saw. And he said that when he was up on the cross, he said in doing that he wanted to show the world, world what he can do and that he also wanted to show us we could do by leaving the physicality of the body behind that there, that is not the real you. There's so much more to this world. So do you mean. Imagine getting messages like this? And it's really conflicting to me. And why would they choose me if I'm evil and if I'm talking demonic entities, why would they choose me to give this amazing information? And a lot of this is in my book. So I put it in there. I put the whole, whole conversation with Jesus and the whole conversation with Mary, which was my favorite, you know, one of my favorite things I've ever done, just because of the fact that I had never heard any. This is not information that you can hear, you know, other people talk about. You don't find it in any book. This is straight from, you know, straight from them. In my opinion. In my experience, it was straight from them.
[91:08]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I kind of already asked it again though. But like they could say they're Jesus, but how are you 100% certain that was.
[91:19]
Olivia James
I'm 100% in my soul. What I know is right. Other people, they would have to, in I, I believe that in order for them to really, you know, 100% believe, they would have to be doing what I do and sit in my seat, you know, and experience what I experience to get the full picture of what it would be like to have something as big as that inside your body speaking. They won't know until they can experience it just like any other, you know, medium that's do you know, they get the same, they get the same backlash. It's not, I'm. I'm not, I'm used to it. So it's not going to hurt my feelings when people say, you know, that I'm lying or whatever, I don't care, you know, I'm just trying to do what I was told to do. And my own dead father told me to do this. He me told, told me to burn the system down. And he was very serious. He said, go out there and tell everybody what they did and what they made us do. And that's kind of how I stay true to this whole thing, this whole thing that I'm doing by writing these books and getting this information out that I've obtained and taken a huge risk to get to people and all they want to do is, you know, kind of focus on, oh, she's evil, she's talking to demons. You don't see all the information I've gotten about these programs about tortured children and giving it to the world. You know, I'm taking a huge risk doing this. I take a huge risk every time I remote view bases and try to remote remote view documents for people. That's a huge risk to myself in order to help the world and get them the information. Because I'm staying true to what my father told me to do.
[92:47]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, I was more or less not so much them saying, you're lying, but like the beans themselves lying, saying they're something.
[92:56]
Olivia James
I guess that's in people's own belief system systems. That's their religious belief systems. That's not, you know, that's not in my belief system and, or in my experience. So they have to, you know, deal with their own beliefs in terms of how they feel. And if it's not for them, it's not for them. I don't have any harsh feelings about that if they don't want to listen to the information. But it's there for people to look at and to, you know, see what's being said at least.
[93:25]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I just know, like, again, if you listen to religious types of people, like a demon's going to lie to you, so it's going to tell you things that it's going to impersonate whoever it's going to make you think it's good. Like, I understand how that works because that's how I was raised. So I understand too.
[93:50]
Olivia James
Yeah, I understand too. But I'm. I'm not afraid of that. And I'm not afraid of hearing them fake because why would they fake when I am one of them? Why do they need to fake to me? I'm one of them. I'm one of their people. That's why I've created such a huge connection with them, is because in the past life I was one of them. They tell me that too. They said that's why we're connected, because you are one of us. So I can't. And I never lie about it. I don't. I try to stay as authentic as I can by telling that story that I want was one of them. And that's how I make this connection with them. And that's why I know they're not lying to me. Because why would they need to lie to one of their own people if it's one of you guys? Okay, maybe they want to lie to you, but I don't. And I've never heard any really. I haven't heard a lot of lies from them. I hear a lot of lies from humans, but not necessarily them.
[94:42]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I know it for just general, like you're. You're 100% correct with the human aspect. A lot of people are liars and don't do good things and manipulative. That's just human nature. And it kind of makes me go back to wonder why we are the way we are, which there is no real rhyme or reason as to that. Everyone has their own choice of what they try to do. I try and I think I try to do good in the world, but maybe to someone else, I don't.
[95:12]
Olivia James
It's a lot of. It's based on. On perspective. It's based on perception and what you consider good and what you consider evil. And people have. I. People in their own selves had to figure out what they can. And I'm not trying to tell anybody what to consider good and evil. I'm saying this is my experience. And what I've experienced is going to be different from other people because of my abilities and what I've been able to obtain with it. You know, not a lot of people can travel as far as as I've gone. They just can't. And I wouldn't want them to because it's a risk. So I would. You know, I'm taking the risk for other people to get the information. But I totally understand if somebody's afraid of it because I've been doing this for a few years now and I hear it all the time about what they think kind of person I am, you know, just based on the fact that I'm a medium and I'm able to get information, I totally get it.
[96:04]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Would you claim you said you're one of them? So if someone said you're a dark entity, would that be true?
[96:12]
Olivia James
It's true because it's in my cellular level. It was me in a past life and that. And I can't delete it or eliminate it no more than anybody else can delete one of their past lives. If somebody knows how to delete a past life, please let me know. I've never heard of anybody do been able to delete a past life or eliminate it. And why would I want to? It was an experience that I needed to figure out, you know, what darkness was. And even in that stage, she thought she was doing something for good, for people because they called out to the darkness and she's Right when I was harlowing, people did call out to this, and they still do call out to the darkness still, you know. You know, my father even called out to darkness. He told me that when he was young, he called out to the darkness for protection. So people are doing. Still doing this. We call. When I was a demonic entity, we called it a heart call. We called it the beckoning. That's the word they use, the beckoning. When somebody calls forth an ancient God, we don't call ourselves demons. We never did. We called ourselves gods. So when people are thinking about, you know, the current demonic entities, these are what they used to call gods in ancient times. In ancient times, we were called gods. So it's kind of shifted based on, you know, current times and time frames, culture, everything, subconscious cultures. It. You got to see how powerful culture is too, and how it shifted than the words and the images of what we use to describe these beings.
[97:39]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Right. I think you actually gave me an idea to use for the name of this episode, so. But is there anything else you'd like to discuss before we try to wrap this up? I know you have the books and everything, so I want you to look.
[97:53]
Olivia James
Yeah, we can definitely wrap up up my. Both of my books are on Amazon. And please, if anybody has any questions, if they want to discuss anything, you can find me on Tik Tok, on Olivia James, the Gray Mouse. So if you have. If you read the book and you have any questions, just reach out to me and we can discuss it. No problem.
[98:09]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Are your books available on Amazon?
[98:11]
Olivia James
Yes, they're both on Amazon.
[98:13]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay. I will make. Make sure to send me a. I do this a lot. I tell people to send me links so I can put it in the show notes, and then the episodes come out. There's no links in the show notes, and everyone's like, he's not putting links. I just don't ever get them sent to me.
[98:25]
Olivia James
No, I'll send it to you. No problem.
[98:27]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I was like, I don't have the time to go and search for things because I do 800 different things a day. So I'm also forgetful, so I forget to go look for the stuff. So if you send it to me, I'll make sure to put it in there for everyone.
[98:39]
Olivia James
Okay, sounds great.
[98:40]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
But no, I appreciate you coming on here tonight and talking with me. It's been a lot to. Lot to take in, lot to think about. So.
[98:48]
Olivia James
Yeah, it's different. It's definitely different. Information. Information.
[98:50]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
You're the first time I can say that. I've interviewed a dark entity. So.
[98:55]
Olivia James
Yeah, thank you. Nice to meet you as well.
[98:59]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
It's. I said this will be a taboo episode for some people.
[99:03]
Olivia James
But yeah. And I. And I get it. And like I said, that's why I offer. If anybody want to discuss it, they can, you know, talk to me about the book. It's totally fine. But I think if they read the book, they'll kind of have a. Because me talking about it is so different from having all the information in one spot to kind of flip through. I think if they actually read the entire book series and, you know, saw, you know, the beginning and the end of it and what I. What is actually being said, it might, you know, kind of work a little bit better that way, rather than me just, you know, jumping back and forth between stories.
[99:37]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah. Well, we're gonna wrap this one up, so I want to say thank you to Olivia and thank you to everyone. Yep. And I want you to have a good night. And everyone out there listening to have a good, good night, too. We're going to wrap it up, so catch you on the next one. All right.
[99:53]
Olivia James
Thank you.
[100:00]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
If you would like to be a guest on Tinfoil Tells, remember to send an email to tinfoiltelspodcastgmail.com or you can also go to tinfoiltels.com and go to the contact section. Just make sure to reach out and get a hold of me and we will get something scheduled for a future episode. You can also find Tinfoil Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Instagram. Just look for Tinfoil Tells podcast. You reach out to me that way, too. Remember to share the show around. Word of mouth is the best way to help the show grow. And just remember, truth comes at cost. Are you willing to pay the price? It.
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Podcast Summary: Cult of Conspiracy – Tinfoil Tales: Space, Mind Control, with a Former Demon

Host: The Cajun Knight & Raven Lee (featuring Brandon from Tinfoil Tells)
Guest: Olivia James, author, experiencer, and self-described former demon
Date: June 8, 2026
Episode Length: ~1hr 40min (excluding ads & non-content)

Episode Overview

This episode features a deep-dive conversation between Brandon (from Tinfoil Tells) and author Olivia James about her extraordinary experiences with mind control programs (notably MK Ultra), secret space programs, paranormal encounters, and her own self-identity as a former dark entity. Olivia recounts traumatic experiences tied to government projects, abilities she developed such as “hosting” spirits or entities, and vivid past-life memories—including lifetimes as a Jinn (dark entity) and other notable incarnations.

The conversation spans the practical (government projects, consciousness technology), the mystical (spiritual entity communication), and the taboo (demonology, occult rituals), with a skeptical but open exploration of the boundary between subjective experience and collective reality.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Olivia’s Background and Her Books

[03:59-04:20]

Olivia introduces herself as the author of the Gray Mouse book series (“Gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control”; “Gray Mouse Purgatory”), focusing on “MK Ultra conspiracy, the paranormal, and the occult.”
She describes writing as a healing process and a method to share her experiences.

Introduction to “Hosting,” Abilities, and Spirits

[05:06-06:44]

Developed psychic abilities via hypnotic regression and spiritual work: astral travel, bilocation, remote viewing (“psi remote viewing”).
“Hosting” is defined as letting an entire entity take over her body—not just channeling. She’s fully passive during the process and feels no pain or trauma.
The term originated from an entity (Bacchus): “A demon named Bacchus told me that’s what I do… spirit host, entity host.” [06:24 – Olivia James]

Childhood, Parental Backstory, and Entry into MK Ultra

[06:51-16:05]

Olivia details her father’s involvement in military intelligence and later drug trafficking, followed by a mysterious trial ending in dropped charges and a government job (“they had the wrong person”).
Through spiritual hosting, she learned from her deceased father that he handed her over to governmental mind control programs to avoid prison.
At age 6/7, Olivia was taken to a psychiatric hospital on the East Coast with another child (Jacob) and subjected to various experimental abuses (hypnosis, electroshock, LSD, psychological/physical/sexual trauma).
Program aim: “syncopated dissociation”—breaking and compartmentalizing the psyche to create blank slates for reprogramming.

Quote:

“What they wanted... was a blank slate. They wanted to create these open pockets in your brain, compartmentalize you so that they could rebuild you into what they wanted.”
[16:05 – Olivia James]

Dissociation was so severe she and Jacob would “play together in spirit form while our bodies were in beds, being electroshocked.” [16:05]

Past Lives as Selection Criteria

[16:05-28:32]

Hypnotic regression revealed past lives, which the program psychiatrist used as justification for further experimentation:
- As Harlem, a dark Jinn, who parasitically inhabited people, believing she was answering their calls.
- As a psychic medium in 1400s Italy, persecuted during the Inquisition.
- As a male in 1700s/1800s Europe, a criminal burned alive by villagers.
- As a slave in ancient Egypt under Anubis-like rulers—emphasizing manipulation through spiritual and temporal control.

Quote:

“She [the psychiatrist] was finding things she had no idea were going to be there... That’s how I got referred to other programs.”
[16:05 – Olivia James]

Project Traveler & Contact with Dr. Green

[28:32-32:10]

After revelations of a “dark attachment,” Olivia was referred to “Dr. Green”—identified by some as Dr. Mengele.
Dr. Green and two albino twins examined her for an “attachment” (which they misunderstood as removable).
They sought to harness the power of “possessed children” for Project Traveler—Olivia clarifies they couldn’t control her “old dark Jinn self.”
She emphasizes Dr. Green’s ominous presence:

“I felt like I was in a cage with a tiger... he was not to be messed with.”
[28:32]

Discovery of Adult Abilities, Bleed-Through, and Hypnotic Sessions

[32:10-38:54]

Olivia began recovering memories in adulthood triggered by work anxiety, leading her to seek hypnotic regression.
She underwent 6-hour sessions where “demons, aliens, animals, ghosts, and past lives” spoke through her—a process she always records.
Describes “demons” forcing their way to the front to speak but denies being scared, noting instead the information gained.

Quote:

“Demons consider themselves gods. That’s just how they talk.”
[35:41]

Mechanisms of Truth, Deception, and Handler Entities

[38:54-41:23]

Brandon asks how Olivia trusts what’s communicated by entities.
Olivia replies she operates from her “highest state of consciousness” and finds humans (not entities) the most deceitful, particularly human “handlers” encountered in astral/remote viewing states:

“They’re just nerds behind the computer.”
[41:18 – Olivia James]

Secret Space Program, Moon/Mars Missions, and “20 and Back”

[41:28-65:56]

Elaborate details about being trained for psychic/psionic work on a base under the Moon (~age 13).
Trains in personality profiling—needed to “read a room” or a person instantly for intelligence operations and corporate espionage.
Describes subsequent “beta tracking”/Monarch programming (sexualized infiltration, black widow programming), creation of 118 alters (distinct personalities for various missions).
Promotion to corporate HR on Mars’ McCreary Base (Mariner Division, Mars Defense Force), matching recruits to jobs (mining, agriculture, entertainment, etc.).
Explains “retirement” and “20 and back” (serving 20 years, then returned via chemical age regression to original timeline, with memories suppressed and signed consent for future recall/use).
Discusses memory bleed-through in parallel civilian jobs (triggered trauma).
Brandon probes the mechanics—Olivia asserts these are real, bodily experiences, not mere consciousness projection or cloning.

Quote:

“If I was gone, they’ll just return me to that same day they took me.”
[61:00 – Olivia James]

Consent, Contracts, and Manipulation

[57:40-65:04]

Emphasis on forced signed consent forms (“freedom forms”) in both space and Earth-based programs—these stand in “all courts: Earthly, galactic.”
Notes the paradox and manipulation of consent to exculpate handlers and agencies.

Occult, Demonic, and “Hosting” Work

[73:24-79:43]

Olivia details working for agencies such as “Monarch Solutions,” contracted to “host” spirits (familiars/Daimons) for wealthy families—bypassing elaborate ritual, acting as a “portal person.”
Example: A family paid for her to host a centuries-old familiar for a dinner—entity was disappointed by “parlor tricks” questions.
Also notes ongoing elite programs aiming to breed “moon children” via intentional ritual encounters with hosts.

Nature of Demons, Angels, and “Good & Evil”

[79:52-87:41]

Olivia describes the energetic merging during hosting, explains dark and light spirits feel similar—doesn’t judge by dualistic (good/evil) standards.
Parallels between ancient deities, current demonology, and shifting cultural views.
Olivia asserts she is “one of them” (a dark entity) at the “cellular level” due to past life.

Quote:

“We called ourselves gods... It’s shifted based on culture.”
[96:11 – Olivia James]

She’s hosted benevolent, famous beings (e.g., Jesus, Mary)—suggesting the phenomenon transcends religious boundaries:

“If I’m evil, why would they choose me to give this amazing information?”
[89:40 – Olivia James]

Overcoming Fear, Message for Listeners

[87:47-89:22]

Encourages meditation as a path to spiritual awareness, yet warns:

“As soon as I got close to something special, handlers would mentally threaten to take everything from me.”
[87:47 – Olivia James]
Posits that awareness and information dissolve fear, enabling personal liberation from control structures.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On trauma and dissociation:

“The only time that me and this boy Jacob could be little kids is when we would dissociate and we would leave the body.”
[16:05 – Olivia James]
On the paradox of human and entity morality:

“It was the entities keeping me alive while I was tortured by humans.”
[41:28 – Olivia James]
On consent and manipulation:

“We literally consent to being monitored and controlled your entire life. And if I don’t do it correctly, I can be terminated. Termination doesn’t mean lose your job. Termination means real termination.”
[59:54 – Olivia James]
On the reality of good and evil:

“When I’m hosting a darker entity or a light one, I don’t really feel that different. I never felt that.”
[84:02 – Olivia James]
On challenging beliefs:

“There’s so much we haven’t even become aware of yet because we’re afraid to look into the other parts of ourselves.”
[87:41 – Olivia James]
On her mission:

“My own dead father told me to do this. He told me to burn the system down. He was very serious. He said, go out there and tell everybody what they did and what they made us do.”
[91:18 – Olivia James]

Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Content | |---------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:54–04:48 | Olivia’s background, books, and experiences; start of regression/psychic abilities | | 06:51–16:05 | Family history, introduction into mind control via parental compromise, trauma at age 6-7 | | 16:05–28:32 | MK Ultra programming, details of childhood abuse, synchronization/dissociation, past lives | | 28:32–32:10 | Encounter with Dr. Green; Project Traveler, “possessed children,” misunderstood attachments | | 32:10–38:54 | Adult awakening, hypnosis, entity "hosting," real-time examples | | 38:54–41:23 | How she discerns truth, human handlers described | | 41:28–56:14 | Secret space programs, training on Moon/Mars, personality profiling, “beta tracking,” alters | | 56:14–65:56 | More on age regression, “20 and back,” mechanics of time manipulation, contracts | | 65:56–72:29 | “Bleed through” phenomena, parallel lives, demotion on Mars, recollection of last mission | | 73:15–79:43 | Details of occult contract work; "hosting" familiars, rituals, dark deities vs. clinical skills | | 79:52–89:40 | Nature of entity communication, “dark” vs. “light,” cultural reinterpretations, past identity | | 89:40–99:36 | Hosting Jesus/Mary, her mission, criticism from religious people, owning her experiences |

Final Takeaways

Olivia’s claims offer a first-hand look at the overlap between conspiracy, trauma, and the mystical.
Her narrative blurs the boundaries between government mind control, spiritual phenomena, and alternate histories.
She refuses a simplistic good/evil dichotomy, drawing instead on direct experience—both earthly and “otherworldly.”
The episode is a provocative mix of personal testimony, metaphysical speculation, and a challenge to conventional understandings of self, spirit, and power.

Olivia James' Books:

Available on Amazon: Gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control, Gray Mouse Purgatory
Contact/Follow: TikTok - Olivia James the Gray Mouse

A note for listeners:
This episode contains potentially triggering accounts of trauma and taboo spirituality. Take these stories as one perspective among many in the realm of conspiracy and esoteric discussion. Olivia encourages personal inquiry and discernment.

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[01:17]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
and I just turned around and I hauled ass out of there.
[01:20]
Olivia James
I was done.
[01:21]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I wasn't dealing with that.
[01:26]
Olivia James
The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things that turned me. When I turned my headlights on, it turned and looked at us. And one of the things I remember the most were the eyes were glowing red.
[01:44]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I see an orb of light. It is just circling these steps like
[01:50]
Olivia James
it is waiting for me.
[01:54]
Ryan Seacrest
And he begins to tell them that he saw a ufo.
[01:59]
Olivia James
They're basically like, what are you talking about?
[02:04]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's seven foot up on a tree peeking around it. And that's where I saw the top of the muzzle, nose and the eyes.
[02:11]
Olivia James
As soon as I made eye contact with this thing, it felt like death.
[02:19]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Hey everyone, it's Brandon from Tinfoil Tells. Bringing you another episode. On this one today I speak with author Olivia James. Olivia believes that she was part of a program and not only that, but she also, in a past life, was A demon. So we'll get into all of that here in a few minutes. I'd just like to say thanks to Cult of Conspiracy for having me be a part of their affiliation. Thanks to you, the listener. I hope you guys enjoy it. And if you do, you can always follow Tinfoil Tells on the official Tinfoil Tales stream. Just look for Tinfoil Tells wherever you listen to podcast at and you will find it. Like subscribe whatever it is you got to do. You can hear all the other episodes that are available. You'd like to help support Tinfoil Tales, there is a Patreon. Make sure to check that out. You get exclusive content plus all the episodes ad free. And it's only 1.99amonth. My documentary, the Mississiniball Triangle is now available for purchase on dvd. If you're interested in that, you can reach out to me. Follow me on all the social medias, Facebook, Instagram, X. You can shoot me a message that way. And if you'd like to be a guest on Tinfoil Tales, you can send an email to tinfoil tales podcastmail.com or go to tinfoiltels.com and go to the contact section. But on that note, again, thanks to Cult of Conspiracy. Thanks for listening and we will check you on the next one. Like to take this time to welcome my guest tonight. Olivia James. Thanks for coming on here and talking to me.
[03:55]
Olivia James
Thank you for having me.
[03:56]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Would you like to let the audience know a little bit about yourself?
[04:00]
Olivia James
Sure. My name is Olivia James. I have two books. They're called the Gray Mouse series and one is called Gray Mouse Sex Space and Mind Control. And my newest one is called Gray Mouse Purgatory and it delves into a lot about MK Ultra conspiracy, the paranormal, and even occult.
[04:20]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
How did you come about writing stuff like this? Like, was there something that kind of put you on this pathway of. Yes.
[04:29]
Olivia James
Yes. So as I went through my healing process, I found writing to be very therapeutic and to, you know, be able to get out everything that I was experiencing and putting it into words has been like the best experience. And also I'm able to give that information to other people.
[04:49]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Do you have experiences from any of this or like, how does that fall into with the books or like the topics of the books?
[04:58]
Olivia James
The books are ex. Pretty much exactly what I was experiencing. I actually did a lot of work.
[05:06]
Ryan Seacrest
I've.
[05:07]
Olivia James
I've been learning. So I started off doing a lot of hypnotic regression with various hypnotherapists. I found a really good one and then I also started Working on. That's where some of my abilities came back to the forefront. And I learned how to do astral traveling, bilocation, remote viewing, which I. I call. Sigh. Remote viewing because it's just not. I'm not doing a scientific process where I'm using coordinates. It's actually a psychic ability. And I also do something called hosting. And actually spirits and entities taught me that word. They told me what I was doing was hosting. So it's a new kind of fresh way to describe it. It's not exactly channeling because I'm not just using words through my mouth. I'm letting an entire being person take over my body and speak. So they're. When they're inside my body, I'm pretty much like in a, you know, warm, dark place, just resting while they do it. And I don't feel any pain. I don't get any psychological or physical trauma. So I always say I don't recommend it to other people because it's specific to me. It's an ability I have. So I wouldn't recommend other people try to do this hosting.
[06:15]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Now I'm not really familiar with any of that type of stuff. I've talked with people that have had like these experiences and everything else, but I've never heard the term osteen before. So that's new to me.
[06:25]
Olivia James
Yeah, it's a. And I had never heard it before either before. Actually a demon named Bacchus told me that's what I do. So it was really interesting to get information, you know, specifically from an entity saying I'm. What I am called is a host, a spirit host. Entity host.
[06:45]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Well, if you want to start from the beginning.
[06:47]
Ryan Seacrest
Yes.
[06:47]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
How all this happened, I'm going to turn it over to you. We can just dive on into it.
[06:52]
Olivia James
Sure. Okay. So I always like to start off with my introduction and that is, I always say that I had very interesting parents. So going all the way back to childhood, my parents, they had. They struggled a lot. But my father was recruited at a very young age, 18 years old, from a small town to do military intelligence on a German Russian border. So he spoke German and he was a code breaker and doing things like that. So it was really strange to have somebody, you know, some poor kid from a small town be recruited straight out of high school for that. And when he was done, he came back, you know, to. From where he was living at and he got into some kind of rougher type activities. He started working for, you know, the what. What we call now cartels. So if Anybody knows about, you know, the drug trafficking trade in the, you know, 60s and 70s, there was a lot. There's a lot of information about, out there about, you know, different agencies, three letter agencies that were involved in. In, you know, pushing that along. So it wasn't just this one group, you know, being on top. There was a lot of different hands involved in drug trafficking. And he ended up being a major drug trafficker in the 60s. And. And he was doing things, you know, with, with plane, with boat, car, bus, but mainly by driving. So he was doing a lot of that work. My mom actually helped him do some of that work. You know, they were doing a lot of smuggling and money laundering, that kind of thing. But why that's important is because. Because of his ties to the different, you know, coming out of military intelligence and being tied to, you know, different agencies, he ended up becoming a risk because he got addicted to his own product. So these people started seeing him more as a risk rather than, you know, a successful asset. So what they did was they were trying to scare him a little bit, and they were doing like these, you know, kind of like semi raids. You know, they would, you know, almost trying to scare him, scare him straight. And it didn't work. You know, he, you know, how he just couldn't, you know, get himself together. So on the second or third raid, they finally actually took him into custody, arrested him and everything. And there was this huge public trial. You know, it was always in the newspapers and things back then, but, you know, it looked like he was going to be going to prison for. For life, for a really long time based on the amount of trafficking he was doing. So it was pretty serious situation. And at the end of the trial, they just dismissed everything, no matter how much evidence they had. And all they said was they had the wrong person and they ended up giving him like a government job. So it's really strange to, you know, have, you know, all that happen. And at the end they're just like, never mind, we have the wrong person. It was the wrong name or something after this huge, long public trial. And I don't think anybody put two and two together based on that. So it was really interesting. But what I found out through my own research, through all my own, you know, regressions and things like that, I found. And I want to talk about how I can get information. I do, like I said, I do things called hosting. So that means I can talk to not only just dead people, but people that are living in terms. I do something where I describe it as talking to someone's brain. So it's just talking to different parts of them. I can talk to a different part of their personality, their spirit, their higher self, you know, like maybe like a heart center. There's so many different areas of a person to connect to, and you connect to different parts of their personality, sometimes even an alter in them. So it's. So that's kind of how I was able to obtain, you know, expanded information about this is by. Because my father's dead. He's been dead for a long time, but that's how I got the information is doing this work and hosting him myself. And actually he became, you know, he's almost like a guide to me now. Like if I go. If I try to go very deep and travel to the outer realms, he's one of the first people that steps over the line to greet me, you know, almost like keeping an eye on me now, because we were estranged pretty much for my whole life. We didn't, you know, we didn't vibe on a lot of things. And now I know why is because a lot of it was his guilt. A lot of it was his own personality about, you know, what had happened to me. And it was because in order to stay out of prison, he had to sign something over. And that means saving his own, you know, behind by signing me over to them. So that's how I got introduced into MK Ultra, is from his cowardice of not wanting to go to prison. So he. When he got out, when he got out of that and just started working, he tried to live a normal life. It was pretty normal. But I ended up getting taken to what I remember as a psychiatric hospital. And I was only about, I don't know, six or seven. And I think when I was a really young kid, I barely talked. I rarely ever talked. I was very quiet, very shy, very introverted, that type of. So at this particular. And I don't know how I went to this place. And they didn't remember. I've asked one of my living parents, you know, do they remember me ever leaving, you know, at night or being gone? And all they said was, it's possible. So that's not really a definitive answer saying, you know, did you. Did you know where I was every day at 6 years old? They just said. She just said, it's possible that I was gone. And I don't, you know, there's no other way to figure that out. But from what I've discovered is that I was taken to a psychiatric hospital on the East Coast. And this, this place is no longer open, but at the time it was this big, huge, massive place. They, they were pretty much self sustaining, you know, and we were in like a very small wing, a separate wing because there was a very small program. And it was me and another, another child who was a boy. His name was Jacob. So it was just us two. And the main programmer was a female. And I always describe her because I can still see, you know, see her in my mind, the way she looked and she looked. And I didn't grow up around these types of people, you know, like my parents are drug, drug traffickers. So to see somebody like her, she seemed very kind of like ethereal in a way. You know, she was always very dressed up and, you know, her hair pinned up just perfectly, you know, the psychiatrist. So I always kind of looked, looked at, looked up to her as like a. I don't know, like, just like it was so weird to see somebody like that. You know, I hadn't had that in my experience as a child. But she also had two assistants and what we used to call them orderlies, but now, you know, they have different terms for men, nursing assistants and that. But these two orderlies were doing a lot of the, the processes and practices that she wanted implemented. So what she wanted ultimately her, her main goal in this program was to create something called syncopated dissociat me and this other child. And what that would consist of is systematic abuse, torture, you know, psychological manipulation, things like that. They were doing that pretty regularly. And I want to say they were changing activities probably every 15 to 20 minutes from what I can remember. And it was, you know, once, you know, they would start off maybe, you know, making us watch certain images on a screen. They were, you know, coming and doing a little bit of physical abuse. Then they would switch over and take us to do, you know, some other things in with the psychiatrist, like hypnosis. She was doing hypnosis on us very young. She was also using LSD and electroshock therapy. So they were doing all these different activities. There were some sexual activities. There was a lot of psychological manipulation. So us as children, we never knew what to expect. And that was the point. They were trying to break down the psyche and to really.
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Olivia James
Casino make make you go back to a base state. And then it really does happen. When you're constantly being abused and tortured as a child, you kind of leave that behind. And we got to a point where we didn't ask for anything. We didn't ask to use the bathroom. We didn't ask for food. They would, you know, they would hold food away from us and water and things like that. But that's what they wanted. That was their process to get you to a point where you never asked for anything. That's what they wanted. They wanted a blank slate. They wanted to create these kind of like open pockets in your brain, compartmentalize you so that they could rebuild you into what they wanted. And that was kind of what they wanted to do, is rebuild us. And they considered us successful because we were able to dissociate so well because of the trauma. Our, you know, pretty much our spirits wanted to leave the body. It's in a way to escape the pain and the suffering. And that's what we did as children. And I remember, you know, the only time that me and this boy Jacob could be little kids is when we would dissociate and we would leave the body. We would see each other and we would. You could, if somebody could look into that realm, they could see us playing. You know, that was the only time when our bodies were laying, being laying in a bed, being electroshocked or things like that. We would be playing in our spirit form together. That was the only time we could be children. So what she was, she was just making a lot of discoveries, I believe with hypnosis. And it was, I think we were both going so deep she was finding things she didn't know, she could find. That's how I felt like she was finding things that she had no idea that we're going to be there. None whatsoever. And so she was doing a lot of these where she was looking for, where she found past lives of mine. And that's kind of how I got referred out to other programs based on what she was finding within my own mind and my own spirit. She was finding things that, you know, other people wouldn't realize. So I was going to talk about some of the past lives I was able to discover and how. And how it became that she decided to choose me for these other programs because of these past lives. So one, the main past life that she really focused on was in ancient times, I was something. What they would call, like dark entity, something like that. I called myself. I was more of a dark gin named Harlem. So this particular jinn, what she would do is, and this was ancient times, she would kind of stalk someone. She might find somebody, you know, out, you know, walking their sheep outside of a village or something and, you know, pretty much try infiltrate their life and begin that oppression, that process for, you know, almost breaking them down and, you know, waiting for them to be so terrified and so stressed out that they would allow this being to take over their bodies. And that was what she wanted. And once she was allowed to take over their body, then she could begin her work of, you know, destroying that person in whatever way she could, you know, mainly making them hurt themselves or someone else, you know, pretty much destroying their life, you know, everything they had. So that. That's what something that a dark gin would do. And when she was a one saying she. But me, when I was a gin, I didn't really take a very physical form because physicality for entities and dark entities is very difficult to express. We much rather travel in our energetic form because that's very. It's very easy to travel. And when I was a jinn, I like to travel through the blood, like virus. So I would be, I don't know, I guess something more of a parasitical entity, because that's how I traveled and that's how I was able to sustain myself for some so many thousands of years is by doing the same process, finding someone new every time, once I had destroyed that person. And that's how I lived. That's how I fed. And I did that for a lot of years until I, you know, decided to try something else. But what was really interesting is this being. She didn't know that she was evil. She. Because she didn't know what evil meant. She just knew what she was. She just knew she was a jinn and that her brothers were the jinn. And she didn't think she was evil. She, you know, when I speak to that part of myself, she thinks that she thought she was doing what these people wanted to. She thought that they called to her to take over them and called to her to, you know, take over their mind and body and soul. She thought that's what they wanted. So she thought she was doing something good. She had no idea that there was a concept of evil, because she didn't consider herself evil. She just. Just was what she was kind of thing. So that was one of the main past lives that they wanted to kind of, I don't know, exploit in a way. I had. There was another one that they also saw that it's almost like foreshadowing of what I would be able to do in the future. It was in Italy, and I was. I was what they would consider, like, psychic medium in Italy. And this was, like, in the 1400s. And I was pretty well known in this particular village because, you know, I thought I was out to help people. I wanted to help people connect with their past loved ones and things like that. And, you know, and they would trade me for, you know, vegetables and other goods they would give me if I was doing this for them. So I was pretty much a medium then. And the Inquisition came to that town, and they. They found out somebody told them, you know, who I was and what I was doing. And they ended up coming to, you know, my house, and, you know, they tore. They punched me in the face. You know, they attacked me, and they dragged me back to this dungeon where they continued to do, like, their particular torture. Now, they hung me from a ceiling. So a lot of the torture, you know, happened while I was being hung from a ceiling by my arms. And I remember my uncle. I had two children, and my. My husband had passed a long time before that, you know, particular incident. But my uncle had taken my two children, and he brought them to this dungeon one day, and there was a really small, small little opening in the dungeon where they could see me. And he wanted just to see me one last time. But I wish he wouldn't have done that because I was, like, almost on the verge of death, and it was probably nightmarish for these two kids to even see me like this. So I thought that, you know, we all think that everybody's being burned at the stake, but I actually died from dehydration. And starvation, you know, And I really didn't have any feeling left in my arms at that point. And I was just. I was so angry. I remember that anger, that feeling of, you know, wanting something bad to happen to all these people and what they did. And it really. I really had the anger for men in that life. And, you know, I reached out, you know, I called out to everything that could help me, anything. And I feel like I attached, you know, some dark, darkness to me then, because I wanted anything that would answer, you know, to come and, you know, take care of these people who had done this to me and other women there. But. And then there was one other life that. It was about the. I want to say, late 1700s, early 1800s. And I was a male in that life, and I had been on my own for a really long time. My parents had died young, and I had almost lived, like, as a street child. And I had been, you know, traveling village to village for a long time. And as I grew into adulthood, I found somebody that I could like, a traveling companion that had the same, I don't know, desires in. Inside them. We were able to connect on that way. And what we would be called, I guess we would be called. I don't know, we would find somebody, you know, in these villages as we traveled. We would find some woman alone and attack her, you know, and she would meet her end and, you know, we would just leave her out in the fields or whatever. And we would do that. We just did that every time we went to a new village or a new city, we would do the same thing over and over. It was like there was something just dark inside us, and we would do that all the time. But there was this one time we went to a new village, and I think we had become very careless and very arrogant in what we were doing. So we had just found someone, you know, and a lot of. In those times, a lot of people, a lot of women were out just, you know, taking care of the fields and doing work outside. So we found someone that was on her own, and we attacked her and left her. And the villagers found out, and we had been to a local pub just drinking and laughing and giggling and all that kind of stuff. And they knew it had to be us because we were the only new people in the town. And there hadn't been anything happening like that forever. So they pretty much assumed it was us. And we had to run. And we ran, and we were hiding in this barn, and we thought we'd be safe there, but no they found us, they locked us in, and they set the barn on fire. I only remember at the last minute, I was trying to crawl up, you know, climb up higher into the rafters to get away from the fire. But obviously we burned alive. And we deserved it. That we deserve that treatment in that life. And I had one more life that I thought was important, too. And just because the fact that it. It contributed to, like, kind of, like my mindset. And it was. And I don't know the time frame of it. It was kind of ancient, but it was in Egypt. It looked like Egypt. Anyway. I don't know the exact name of it. I don't think we called it Egypt then. And I know I was a male, and I was what would be considered like, a slave. And everybody. There was hundreds of people just moving sand, and none of us looked at each other. We were like. I don't know what the word would be, like automatons or something. We all just had this blank stare, and we all just kept walking. Moving sand, all of us. Nobody talked, nobody interacted, nothing. It was just all work. And if you could. If I could look and see, you know, on. There's this huge being standing over everyone, and it was just one of them. And he would look like what we consider, you know, somebody that looked like Anubis. So I called them the dog people, though I didn't have a word for them. And we thought that he had killed our God because our God was a crocodile. And so we were pretty much infiltrated and taken over because we thought he killed our God, because our God, our present God was a crocodile. And he just made us constantly work. And you can imagine how strong these beings are if one of these can command, you know, hundreds, almost thousands of people just to do work just from one being. And he carried, like, a staff that had power. And I remember I was in a regression viewing this scene with a hypnotherapist. And what was crazy is that there was no time. There was no time. The limits of time had fallen away when you get into these different realms and these different higher states of consciousness. So I was there seeing him, talking to him, and he saw me. And the only thing he said when he spoke, because he said, get back to work. That's it. And he could see me in present time laying in the bed, you know, talking about this and doing this. And all he said was, get back to work. So these lives are what kind of got me, I guess, referred to another program.
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Olivia James
See terms and conditions 21/ so the psychiatrist at this hospital, like I said, I was only like six or seven. She referred me out to this gentleman, an older gentleman. So I went to his office and he had a very like neutral toned office. I didn't, it did. To me it didn't look like a doctor's office. That's why it was kind of strange to be there. And when I got there it was a very elderly gentleman, very frail looking, I don't know, maybe 80s, early 90s, I couldn't tell. And he was balding and he had these really small wire rim glasses on. And you know, his name was Dr. Green. And I don't know for sure, I only know him as Dr. Green. But a lot of people say that Dr. Green was an alternate name for what they consider somebody named Mengele. And I don't know that I only remember what he looked like and that he was called Dr. Green. So he had two people there and they were twins and he wanted them to examine me because I had been referred to him as kind of like a special, you know, case. So he had these two twins and they were adults and they were kind of like, I don't know, very light pale colored, almost like an albino condition. And so what they were doing in this examination, they weren't doctors, but they were like opening my eyes, eyes, looking in my ears and they finally were looking in my mouth. You know, they made me open my mouth and say ah, you know, and I did everything they said and they, when they looked at my mouth, they turned to Dr. Green and they said, yes, we found it. We can see the thing inside her. So but what they were wrong about is that they thought they saw kind of like, I don't know, I guess, an attachment. And that was something that this project was trying to harness because there's a lot of power in the dark side. And they thought that I was possessed in a way. They were trying to target, you know, possessed children, those people, to try to, you know, almost capture that strength of, like, these entities that were trying to take over other people. And they called it Project Traveler. So that's what he was doing is trying to capture that, you know, learn about that, make it scientific in a way. But they were wrong because they thought it was something they could remove from me, maybe, or control. And they couldn't, because whatever they were seeing inside me, they were seeing my old dark gin self. And that's not something I can erase because it's just part of me at my cellular, cellular level. I can't erase past lives. I can't do anything like that. I can't eliminate it. So they were kind of, you know, off. And I didn't feel harmed by Dr. Green. I want to say that, like, you know, people, you know, he has this crazy reputation, but I. He didn't harm me. But let me tell you, when being around him, you do feel very much on edge. And I always describe it, like, saying he was very old and very frail, but I felt. When I was around him, I felt like I was in a cage, tiger. Like, just that feeling of dread, like something he's not to be messed with type. So that was part of my upbringing and how I got into the MK Ultra and how they found some of these, you know, abilities in me or, you know, what they could, you know, foster in me as a. And return myself almost to, like, a previous, you know, state in a way, you know, to bring these old abilities back out into me. And I really didn't know I could do all this stuff until, you know, just about, I think about four years ago or maybe five years ago now, I just started to have, you know, these kind of things returning, you know, to my life and knowing that I can do it.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I was actually getting ready to ask you, when did you start discovering this?
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Olivia James
So, yeah, so. So I started discovering it. I was having a lot of. And I. Like I said, I didn't know I could do these things. And, you know, me, I've. I'm not. I don't consider myself brave. You know, my whole life I've been terrified of, you know, the dark, paranormal, occult, all of that stuff. It was very scary to me. I just wasn't somebody that was brave enough to kind of face that. And now I kind of can see why, because of the. Some of the stuff that happened to me as a kid and that I had suppressed for so long. And, you know, just being, you know, if you said, you know, I tell people, you know, you know, I can actually let a demon take over my body, you know, how would that. How does that sound? And, you know, it sounds insane and sounds like, who would do that? You know, who would be brave enough to do that? I definitely wasn't somebody that thought I could do that. So I was having. From what? Okay, so this ties into part of the other part of it. I had gotten this job, and it was about. I think about six years ago now. Five or six years ago, I had gotten a new job. And it was a professional kind of like office job, human resources type. And I was just having constant, like, anxiety and panic attacks with this job. Nothing, nothing about it could get me to calm down. And I thought there was something wrong with me. I had no clue what was wrong with me.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
But every.
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Olivia James
Every day was just, you know, crying. There's tears, and it's just not an environment where I should be doing that. And I just knew something was wrong with me. And I felt like, kind of like this push. Like something was pushing me to try this. And I. I had never tried it before. I never thought about hypnosis or hypnotic regression, but I've just felt like something was, like, behind me, you know, kind of cheering me on to try this. And so I did. And I had to do it, like, in one week. And I had to find somebody, literally, I got to do it now kind of thing. And it was really strange to be able to find somebody that would do it, like, within, you know, a day of asking them. So when I ended up doing this, I. It was crazy that I ended up going under for almost six hours, and I didn't even know that I could even go that deep, you know, and obvious, saying the most outrageous things, you know, stuff that I would never, you know, expect myself to say, never, you know, and there was demons speaking through me, aliens, animals, you know, past lives, ghosts, you know, discarnates. Like, anything you can think of was, like, just rushing to talk through me. And I was literally under hypnosis for almost six hours. And it. When I came out of it, I just was mind blown. Like, I can't believe it, you know, I can't believe I said all this stuff, you know, it was really strange to be me. So I tried to hey, it's Ryan
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Olivia James
I started kind of looking into kind of a lot of the stuff I said, like how, you know, where did this come from? You know, I was starting to talk about, you know, you know, memory suppression technology. I was talking like that in, you know, in this session, like, you know, very formal and very like the words were coming out. And it was really strange how my voice changes throughout the entire six hours. You know, with different, yes, different people took over my voice changes. You know, it was so interesting. So that's kind of how I got started doing the hypnosis. And then I and I think this kind of validates not just me and my story, but other hypnotherapists. I used probably like five or six people at least by now almost seven people to make. I want them to, you know, be validated and for people to know that nobody is coaching me to say things. I have everything recorded. I have everything transcript, you know, so there was nobody coaching me. I pretty much all they have to do is count me down and watch me. And I pretty much speak on my own the whole time because it's always something trying to enter my body and, you know, talk. And the first people that shove everybody out of line is demonic entities because. And I'm just saying that everybody gets mad when I say this, but I say it's because they consider themselves gods. I'm not saying I consider them gods. They consider themselves that and you know, know, because I was a jin GS Jin do consider themselves God. That's just how they talk. I'm not saying it's true or not true. That's just the way they speak. They consider themselves like trickster gods. So, you know, that's why they push everyone to the side. And, you know, sometimes if I go under hypnosis or start even get into a meditative state, you know, the demonic entities are the first ones to kind of show up. And they told me it's because. Because when I start to, you know, you know, shift into a different state of consciousness, and I start to do this because I go so deep that it's like they're in complete darkness and they see, like, this light starting to shine, and then they know it's me, and they kind of like rush. So that kind of is how they know it's me. And then they. It's almost like having like this big line of people waiting to speak. And whoever, you know, who gets to be in the front of the line, it's usually that them, because, you know, they're kind of like the tough guys in the area, so they get the chance to speak first. And usually when they speak, I let them just say what they need to say. And it doesn't scare me because it's so weird to say that it doesn't scare me because, you know, some of the stuff they say is very. Could be terrifying to other people. Just me talking about it scares other people. So I totally understand. If people get afraid of it, I understand. You know, imagine how I felt when I started doing it. You know, I. I didn't know I could do this kind of thing. And they would never. It would never be something that I would pursue because I was terrified of it. But now that I. I gotten so much information from all different types of entities and letting them speak and say stuff that, you know, we would never know if they didn't. If I wasn't allowing them to say this through me, we would never have this information because I don't think anybody has the balls to do it. You know, it's a little bit scary for any. Everybody. So I.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
We have a question before we get going. So when these things are speaking, I want you to speak for them. How do you know what they're saying is truthful?
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Olivia James
I guess because I. I don't judge it by truth. I let them just speak plainly. I don't say they're lying or not lying because then I could say that about any being that came forward. You know, my father or anybody else. And when I'm on. When I'm doing this, I'm in my highest state of consciousness. That's what allows me to do this. So there's no tricking me. There's no fooling me. I never feel fooled or tricked like that because it's a. It's my most highest self. You know, my strong. The strongest part of me is doing this. So. And it's not just darker entities that I've been able to do this with. I've. I've been able to let very, you know, what do you call it? I don't want to say famous, you know, big time religious figures speak. Spoke through me and that was amazing. I let source speak through me. That was probably my favorite thing that I've ever done, is that. That and, you know, very much energy filled. So, you know, I don't want people to think that I'm just like calling demons. I'm calling. I'm allowing myself to be open to anything, to get information for other people to come and speak through me. So do people try to say deceitful things? You know, the. The ones that I find to be most deceitful are humans, which is really interesting. The people that have tried to be most deceitful and try to talk the most crap and, you know, really try to you harm is other humans that I've let you know, that I've tried to connect with and kind of speak to, like handlers. There's us, there's a big group of handlers that I've been able to get information from about how. And they really look really interesting because when I saw them, they're. These are people sitting behind computers. It's that term the guy behind the chair. You know, that guy that's in the chair, that's them. They're not like, as scary as we think, you know, because they're doing all this horrible stuff to people. You know, they're targeting people and doing this and monitoring people. But they really are these, you know, kind of geeks behind the computers. Because I've seen them. I've walked up right behind them in, you know, an astral state, and I seen what they're typing and everything. These are people on computers. So as scary as we thought they were just nerds behind a computer.
[41:18]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I always crack up when someone says nerd. I don't know, it's still just funny.
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Ryan Seacrest
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Olivia James
I. Do you want me to keep going or.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, you can keep going.
[41:28]
Olivia James
Okay. So I got taken into. Like I said, I got taken to the program and they were doing a lot of different experiments, you know, seeing what they could accomplish with that. And a lot of. They. Well, one of the Experience was experiments where they had me sit in this sensory deprivation. But it wasn't water or anything. It was just a dark room. They had me in a dark room. They had me, you know, tied to a chair, like a regular chair, and there was no light, anything in there. They didn't give me any food. They hooked me up to an iv, and they wanted me to do this hosting thing. So, you know, literally, they would. All they have to do is count me down and put me in a trance. And, you know, at that. You know, obviously, you know, a lot of people would find that difficult to think of. Like, you just. They're just counting you down and you're in trance? Yes, because I can do it now, and that's how I do it now. So it's basically a counting measure, and I'm. I can travel. So I was doing that as a child. Child. And they wanted me to host these demonic entities. And they were trying to see if they could make measurements out of it. You know, measurements of the body systems, you know, brainwave scans, you know, whatever was happening to my body, they wanted to see how that would be affected by having these entities within my body. And they wouldn't. They weren't feeding me. They. You know, they weren't. There was no hugs, no. You know, I'm just a little kid, and they're, you know, treating me like this. And I found it very conflicting that these humans at this place were torturing me, you know, all different types of ways. And it was entities that were keeping me alive. They were the ones that were sustaining me while I was in the chair because I didn't need to eat while they were, you know, taking over my body. And I thought, I still find that kind of strange, because I'm supposed to hate them and, you know, think they're evil and all that, but they were the ones keeping me alive while humans were torturing me. So you can see that can be conflicting to any child. You know, it was probably. And it's still conflicting to me a little bit, just to think, you know, I'm supposed to hate all these people and hate all these beings, but it was actually humans that, you know, started this whole process. So I was in a couple of those programs for a while. They're doing experiments, you know, and as a child, they had us doing kind of. I don't want to talk. There's more gory details in the book. You know, I guess I don't have to go into too much of that, what we call, like, Monarch training. It's they sexualize children in a certain way to do various jobs. There's more in the book about that. I don't have to talk about it too much here, but there was some of that going on. And when I was 13, they decided to kind of switch gears. And from the abilities that had kind of arisen in me, they decided that I would get more training in a different place. And they thought that I would be good for something else. And that was like personality profiling. So from what I remember, I was with this, I don't know, kind of like an older gentleman. And he was kind of dressed up in a suit and he had like a hat on. And I was 13, but I looked like I was 9. I was very small and very, I looked very young. I didn't look like a 13 year old. So he took me with him and it looked like we had gotten on a train or a subway or something like that. I hadn't, I didn't ask questions. You're not allowed to ask questions. So I didn't. And wherever he took me, we ended up on the Moon. And I know it sounds crazy, but there are bases on both the Moon and Mars. And on this base there's an underground base. And I can't remember the level, I'm not sure if it was four, level four underground. But what they wanted me to do was participate in a training class called Psionics. And I remember the teacher there, and I remember having a really hard time in this class because I was the only kid and the rest of it was, was adults. And you know, their abilities weren't like I was used to. They had other abilities. Like I just didn't understand what they were going to do with them. Like one gentleman, he had an ability where he could produce excess moisture in the body, which I thought that sounded kind of weird, but it looked like it was just leaking from his fingers. But I, I don't know how, what they were going to do with that. And then there was other people that are telepaths, you know, energy readers, you know, things like that. And like I said, my teacher, she was a young, she was younger. To me she looked young, but she acted way much older. She looked like she was in her 20s, but she acted like she was in her 60s or something like that. That's the, you know, that's the feeling I get from her. It's more like a 60 year old. But she was very stern with me. And at the time I didn't take it well. But now I I can see that she was trying to help me stay alive. And she, you know, she always. I remember the one phrase she always told me. She always said one look, one word. She said, I have to be able to read the room and read each person with just one look or one word. Because she knew that if I was going to be doing this work, I had to be quick, I had to be thorough because some of it was going to be used in dangerous situations like corporate espionage and things like that. I had to be as fast as I could be. You know, you have to walk in a room, shake one person's hand, and know if they're a threat or not. That's how detailed you have to be with personality profiling. So I got trained there for about, I think, want to say, six months or so. And I always remember that there was a poster on the wall in our classroom. We had one classroom and it looked like there was no windows, obviously because it was underground, but it looked like a. Like an old co college classroom. And like I said that I was the only kid there, but I remember on the wall there was a poster for a general named General Land and he was going to be retiring after 20 years of service. So it was really. It's really weird that I always remember that seeing that one poster on the wall and you know, it was class every day, and then you would just go back to your dorm, you know, sleep, wake up, go to class constantly. So they really couldn't use me for personality profiling until I was older. And so when I was older, I got into a lot of. Of what? And all of these activities are forced. I just want people to know none of these are by choice or consent. It's all forced consent and forced by threat. So if you don't do what they say, you're going to be either dead or harmed or someone you know is. So you have to continue doing all these processes and all these jobs and missions that they want you to do no matter what.
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[48:25]
Olivia James
So they had us doing up until like kind of like my late teens and early twenties. They had us doing like, I guess we call, I call it beta tracking work. And it's, it's a pretty much what some people would consider like black widow training or something or programming. That's how they would program some of our altars. I forgot to talk about that. When I was in the psychiatric hospital they ended up creating 118 altars inside me, which that means there's 118 different personalities and in which there were about six of the front altars that were the main altars that were doing the portions of most of the work and the rest were probably like shifting altars. So these are some of the altars that were programmed to do these various jobs. There was an altar that did personality profiling. There was an altar that was a monarch altar that was more sexualized. There was an altar that did beta tracking and she mixed mult, mixed that with, you know, the personality profiling. And then there was a gray mouse altar. And that gray mouse alter is the one that did a lot of the corporate espionage work and trying to get in and out of buildings very quickly, that kind of thing. So after I, I was doing beta tracking work, like I explained it was this is something where you're infiltrating, trading, you have a mark, they give you a job and that we call people the mark. If there's a specific person, you have to kind of infiltrate their lives and pretty much you're recording. One of my alters has a photographic memory. So if I'm, all I have to do is be around this person and it's recording in my mind the things that I see, the things that I hear. So if somebody, and sometimes I won't know the information because it's so far deep in my mind. But if someone were to put me under hypnosis, they could go in there, you know, and use a code or something like that to get that information. That's, that's how they hide information nowadays. Just like thinking about some of these people that are doing, I don't know, different acts. Let's just say they're doing Things that harm quite a few people in our country. And then you see them on the news and they look like they're like in shock. Like they had no idea what was going on or they don't know why they did certain things. Sometimes you're programmed to do certain things and you won't remember because that information is so far deep in your mind mind. It would take like something like hypnosis or code, you know, a code breaking event to try to, you know, split that open to get that information. And they do that purposely for, you know, things like interrogation. So if somebody were to do something bad, if they get caught, they could never say who told them to do this, how it happened, how it got started. They would not even know. It would just be shut off way back deep into an altar. So that becomes how, how they, you know, use different people as assets and things like that. So I had been doing, I was doing beta tracking work for quite a while and getting involved with different people. Like I started relationships when they told me to. I ended them when they told me to. You know, I did whatever they said basically. And I was working for a couple of different agencies that were kind. Some of these agencies, they consider themselves, you know, good white hats or alliance. But in my experience they're not, they're not good people. And how can you be? If you're using abused children, you're recruiting them and you're forcing them to do work for you and dangerous work, you know, and bad things, it's not anything good. None of us to me, I don't consider any of us that did that kind of stuff. We're not heroes, you know, they're making us do bad things, you know, or else we're hurt. So after I got, I went through that for a long time. I ended up getting promotion. And they said it was promotion for a job well done. They considered me a perfect, almost perfect asset because I did everything they said. I'd never questioned them, I did. That's how we were trained to do everything they said. And so they ended up giving me a job on Mars. And this job on Mars was for personality profiling. I was going to be working in the corporate sector doing human resources, his work. And so this particular base that I was on, it was called McCreary Base and it was located in the south canal region of Mars. And I was kind of, when I first went in, I was in scout class entry level. And I got taken into ground force battalion for Mars Defense Force mdf. And my particular division was called Mariner. So. And I even have my service number. So in this particular division, like I said, I was underground 1st Battalion, but I was in the corporate sector. So I would have people come into my office. You know, all incoming recruits would stop with. They would start with me, you know, after they were doing their intake and everything, because I was going to be the person that would get them assigned to different various jobs. And I really didn't work with the super soldier population, anything like that. Those were people that were sent to Special sector. Like, I didn't really deal with Special Sector. If somebody came into my office that I felt needed to be referred out, I would definitely make a referral to something called like a special special sector where they could be evaluated and things for different jobs. Mainly the jobs that I was putting, placing people in these particular jobs is they would be like mining, you know, drilling, you know, water treatment, waste treatment, you know, agriculture. They even had an entertainment division. So we were putting people in those various jobs. So they were coming to my office. I would spend probably sometimes up to an hour with them and I would ask them, like a battery of questions, questions, but the questions just weren't. To get the answers, I had to use my profiling ability. And so I was basically reading their energy by, you know, you know, just the way their eyes look, their skin, their different body language, you know, facial expressions. It was so much tied into, you know, determining, you know, where that we may be best placed and where they'd be able to do the best work. And I'm sure they weren't thinking that they were going to come here. And so a of lot, lot of these. They used to only recruit out of, you know, force and things like that. But now there's a lot of voluntary recruits currently with the military. And they say they're going, you know, overseas and things, but they're not. They're actually going to Mars. So there's most mainly voluntary recruits now. They're not particularly having to kidnap, you know, children like they used to, but they. There are some. But now there's a lot more voluntary recruits. So like I said, I would take them into my office and then I would make my recommendations and I would send them to the general. And the general I worked under was General Asher. And he had an office kind of close to mine. It was all glass, and he had a secretary that sat out the front. But when I remembered this place, I. I don't. People think that if you're talking about Mars, you're thinking I was like fighting aliens and things like that. No, I don't remember. I only remember being in this one area and doing the same job every day. They wanted me to stay isolated, you know, they didn't want me to connect with a lot of people because they felt like that it would skew kind of my response results, you know, based on my ability. They wanted it, you know, I, they wanted me to stay the same. And I ended up actually being demoted because I couldn't stay the same. I was starting to have like bleed through memories, kind of like things. My programming was breaking down and it mirrored that in my, in my, you know, earth life here. Like when I said I about six years ago I had a job where I was having anxiety. It was because I was having, having memories of a similar job somewhere else. And that's how it kind of bled through and how I started to recover a lot of the memories is because of that job. Having a similar job, that's crazy.
[56:14]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
So I have some more questions before we.
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Olivia James
Yeah, sure.
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Olivia James
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
for me, I've talked to several different people about different types of things like this. But I always wondered and I know I get asked questions about it because a lot of people don't believe it just because that's what comes with the territory of this. But when you say you're working on Mars, I've had other people say they've been in secret space programs and everything. Can you explain how that actually works to like the average person? Like, is it your consciousness that they're taking and moving also in a different reality? Like how does all that actually work for me?
[57:41]
Olivia James
I remember my body being there. I remember being physically there. I don't remember a clone Phone doing that work. I don't remember it, but I'm not. And I do remember when they did do the age regression to put us back. It was chemicals. It wasn't like aliens, you know, doing something to our bodies. It was like a chemical process. And what is really strange is I remember because I was. Since I was, like, in that corporate sector, I remember a huge stack of files that everybody signed up when they. We called it retirement. When they left the program and they went back, they just called it retirement. They didn't know. They didn't know all the details. Even though I knew a lot of it because I was in human resources. I knew more than, you know, a lot of the other people because I was getting them to sign forms. That was my job. They had to sign forms before they left to retirement. And some of those forms were saying that they agreed to. And especially even me, I signed this form saying that I was coded for reentry. That means when I was retired, returned, they could use me at any time because I had signed for it. So it's a double. You're giving, like a double consent without even knowing what you're doing. You know, imagine you. You go there and you're regressed, and they already have stuff on file saying that you agreed to be used at any time once you returned. It's really. And they do use people if they need somebody, depending on your location, depending on, you know, your certain current situation, they will use you. And all they have to do is react to activate a certain part of your brain or an altar through various ways in order to use that piece of you. They can do that. And I remember seeing all the forms and. And nobody said no to the forms because you weren't allowed to anyways. There was no saying no, I don't feel like signing this. That's not that. Even in the current military, you can't say, no, no, thank you. There's. I've never heard of anybody saying that. You can say no, thank you to that. So everybody signed these forms,
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
forms. And it almost seems reminiscent to something I've heard before. Like, they hold a 20 and back.
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Olivia James
Yeah, it is. And that's how long I was. There is about 20 years.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay.
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Olivia James
And then when I had the age regression, like I said, they called it retirement. They didn't say, you're being age regressed and sent back home. They don't say that. They say you, you know, you're finished with your term of service, you're being retired. And that's what we. That's how we knew it as retirement. And like I said, there's form signed. You even sign to be. You consent to be monitored and controlled your entire life. You literally consent to that. And you consent to saying, I will do all this, you know, and if I don't do it correctly, I can be. And they said you will result in termination. But termination doesn't mean lose your job. Termination means real termination. We sign that we consent to it. And it's crazy that we. And what I know is these freedom forms, from what I know, they hold up in all courts. So that's earthly courts, galactic, all of it. You can, you can put this, these forms that they have, you can put them up in any court. And they say they'll stand up, they'll stand in any court.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
If you were physically gone for 20 years, how does that explain to people that know who you are, like, where you've been at and everything, how does that work?
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Olivia James
Because they return you to a pre. A predestined state. So if I was gone, they'll just return me to that same day that they took me.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's where it gets confusing because it's like time control manipulation and everything. And when you're able to control time and send people through and out of time, it's like, what is.
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Olivia James
But we all can. We all can control time. You know, I myself, you even, I control time when I'm going under hypnosis and astral traveling and going in other states of consciousness and reaching other, other places in other realms. That's insane to me that I can do that. That's controlling time. Just one person in her bed doing that. So if I can do that, imagine what these people with all the money, all the power, all the connections and all the technology they want can do. Imagine what they can do. If I can just do that just by laying in my bed.
[62:00]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's the one thing like, I. I struggle with is the whole aspect of time and coming in and out of time. Like, for me, I just feel like if we're able to control time, I don't know why we're secretive about it at this point. I understand, like, why they. They're secretive into the extent. But like, I don't see why we're doing the things we're doing. Because at this point they're basically being God.
[62:26]
Olivia James
Like, from what I know, it's power and conquest, conquest rules, and it's all these different factions fighting for power and conquest. And we, you know, we're just like kind of like the People, you know, that are being affected by their wars, you know, they're fighting each other for power and we're just being affected by it.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Wouldn't it create a paradox though, that at one point they could send someone back in time and wipe out somebody else that was doing something else? So therefore it's like a butterfly effect?
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Olivia James
I'm not quite sure. I don't remember ever doing any type of time travel or anything like that. Like I said, I was used for very practical reasons, in my opinion. Practical reasons like, you know, intelligence work, corporate espionage, human resources, corporate work. So it's very different from other people Talking about doing 20 and backs when they're fighting, you know, being in this huge military groups and fighting aliens and stuff. I didn't do that. So it's, it's different for me to think about, you know, did I see a lot of weird things? Of course. Did I see people, you know, did I make people sign, you know, documents for augments and things like that? Of course I, I had to do that. They did sign that because I worked on a medical satellite station for a while and I was kind of like what they consider like a medical social worker. So if there was somebody that was assigned there to have like something augmented in their body or something, I had to, to, you know, kind of convince them to sign the papers. Because consent is very big in these programs and people don't believe that, but it was. We had people sign everything because if you're consent, if you're forced to consent, they can always fall back on that. Well, you sign this paper and, you know, that's a problem we have here on Earth, people signing things and you don't know what you're signing a lot of the time. Some. Have you ever seen those long documents that somebody sets in front of you and all you do is switch to the end and sign it just so you don't have to read it all, you know, that's a similar thing that they're doing. And like I said, I don't. I never saw time travel. I never participated in that. But just from my own personal experience, what I can do now, I can see how easily time can be manipulated. If I can see into other places that other people can't see, how is that, you know, how am I able to do that? You know, and there imagine what they can do, you know.
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Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, well, we can keep on going into it. That's just something that always, every time I talk with someone about this, like when it comes to the concept of time I always just feel like if they're able to control time at one point someone's going to go back in time, which would be, maybe that's why we have Mandela effects. I don't know.
[65:04]
Olivia James
But like, and I, and I go back in time, like if I'm under hypnosis, it is a form of time travel. If I'm able to go back and see myself in the 1800s and I'm not just, you know, looking at it, I'm interacting with that time period. I'm able to sometimes even speak with those, you know, beings, those people, whatever. How is, you know, to me, it, it blows my mind to think when I do that stuff. It's like, isn't this kind of like time travel? But you know, I, I don't really call it that. I always say that I'm traversing the outer realms. That's my particular words I use for say traversing the outer realms because I don't know how to describe it and I necessarily wouldn't call it anything like time travel. But in a way it's similar. You know, if you're able to go somewhere, then you know, it pretty much is what I'm doing.
[65:56]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay, well, you can pick up from where we left off at.
[66:00]
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[66:58]
Olivia James
So that I ended up doing that human resources work for a long time and I ended up getting demoted because I was having break through memories and kind of like bleed through memories and it really messed me up. I couldn't do the work I was doing. I was acting very erratic, very emotional unstable. And in these particular positions on these different. In these programs, you're not allowed to have emotion. None of us really had real emotions. We didn't know emotion was. And from what I know now, I was probably depressed, but we didn't have a word for it. There was no option to be depressed. So I didn't really know what was wrong with me. And they. I guess they must have figured my programming was breaking down or something, so they demoted me. And I was doing crazy things like I was trying to search my, my. The general that I work for, I was trying to search his office, looking through his drawers, just because I. I knew something was wrong and I just couldn't figure out what it was, but I knew it. Same thing in this. When I'm. My previous. This current life. I knew something was wrong and something pushed me to try to find out it was the same. It was like mirroring other. Like bleed through. It really was a bleed through. So I ended up getting demoted and I ended up working just for the. As a ship liaison when the ships would come in with cargo and things like that and just signing off on ships. And I ended up getting retired after 20 years and returned but like I said, coded for reentry. So the last time I remember being, you know, physically taken in this, you know, current life is I think I was in my mid-30s and I was at home and I was, you know, just having a normal day. I was getting ready to go to sleep and I remember I. I don't know what happened, but I opened my eyes and I woke up and I was like in the basement of this huge house. It was huge, massive house. It was like this huge mansion. And you just know what to do. You wake up and your brain knows what to do. I woke up and I knew I had to get two kids out of the house. And when I looked down at my. I had on basketball shorts and a tank top. I had no shoes on, so that's not really ideal for a job. And these two children, they weren't dressed properly either and they had no shoes either. So I had to get two children out with no weapons. Not knowing really what I'm doing. It was very stressful. So I took the kids with me and I, you know, I just told them to follow me and we. I was going through all these different rooms and I really. It was like a room just a long hallway of bedrooms. So I wasn't really finding anything that would be a viable kind of weapon. I mean, it was just nothing that I could use. And I finally looked and I found an office. And in the office of this, it looked like a man's office. He had like a retirement gift. And it was like a knife with. I don't know. I don't know. I don't really know what this is, but a knife with all these different attachments on it. So it looked like a retirement gift because it said something, you know, kind of like on the outside. So I grabbed that and we had to search this whole house. This house was so huge, they had a back basketball court in it. So finally we were able to find like what I thought. What I think is thought was the garage door. And so I opened the garage door and as soon as I opened it, I saw there was a woman there. And she. Oh, detailed about seeing her. I can still see, you know, the lines in her face. And even now I can even think about it, I can see the lines in her face and how the makeup was settling in the lines. That's how detailed the memory was. That's how detailed it gets sometimes when you have these memory pulled from your subconscious. That's how detailed it is. So I saw her and she was immediately going to go for her keys and her phone and everything. And she had groceries in her hand and she tried. She dropped everything and went for it. And I just had to put the knife to her throat so she couldn't have a chance. And I just, you know, give me your keys kind of thing. And. And she didn't fight me. And she was bigger than me. She didn't. She didn't fight me. She didn't say a word. She handed the keys over and I took the kids and I. It was this black suv and I just left. And I don't know what happened after that. I know I was tasked to bring it back to the people who started the job. And that was it. And that was I. When I physically remember being taken. Like when I woke up, I snapped back my eyes back open and I was back at home on the couch and I was wearing different clothes. And I opened my eyes and I definitely remembered the whole experience. But at that time, I thought I was probably going nuts because there's. How can I remember for this? There's not. It's not possible. So at that time, I thought I was going a little bit crazy. So that's kind of how some of the things got, you know, how I got introduced into this whole idea of living kind of like a different life and learning about my abilities, learning about MK Ultra and the. What I'm. What is so interesting is a lot of the information about my parents. It's definitely verifiable. If somebody, somebody were to look it up, it's. It's there to find. So it's not like, you know, a lot of my story isn't able to be validated. It is so. And like I said, I. I record everything I do when I'm doing hypnotic regressions. It's all recorded. I have witnesses to all the things I said and all the things that's happened during, you know, hypnotic regression and things like that. So, I mean, do you want me to talk about things like what happened in regressions or what kind of direction you want me to go into?
[72:30]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I'm cool with whatever you want to talk about.
[72:32]
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[73:15]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I did have some questions regarding, like when you do these things, you said you've interacted with different types of beans and everything. What are some of the ones that you've interacted with?
[73:24]
Olivia James
Do you want names of people or.
[73:26]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Oh, I don't really need the names, but I'm just, I'm more curious like,
[73:30]
Olivia James
if it's more like names of like demons, they're demon demonic names.
[73:34]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
That's kind of where I'm. I'm a little taboo about that. So I don't really want to name drop them just, just because some of the listeners that I do have, I don't.
[73:43]
Olivia James
Gotcha.
[73:43]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't want them freaking out if they're hearing names because in some forms of religion, if you say their names, it's not really. So I don't want to make it too taboo.
[73:52]
Olivia James
Okay. Not too much of the occult.
[73:54]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay, we can talk about the occult. I just don't want to name drop them.
[73:58]
Olivia James
Okay, so. And that's a good point, because when I first started doing this and I started to hear a word in my. My head, and it was playing in triple. Like it. I was hearing the same word, and they said it three times over and over in my head. And I had no idea where that came from. And I didn't know what it meant until I looked up and I saw. And I was like, oh, this is figures of the stuff I can do. This is somebody trying to reach out to me and tell me what their name is. So that's a good point when you're talking about names, you know, because that's how they reach out to you in a way. In this particular one, he. That's how he reached out to me is by saying this name three. Three times. Saying his name three times in my head, and that's. That's his particular call or signal. So what I was going to say is that they used. They were starting to. There's a particular agency called Monarch Solutions, and they have, like, a catalog of services. And I had to get forced to work for them for a while. And what they're doing is they're kind of contracting people out that can do things like I can do, like hosting. They're doing it for kind of like what I consider, like, elites or family groups. And some of these families, they've been doing this process since hundreds of years. And there was a particular family that they wanted me to work for for a weekend. And these people, they wanted me to do something what is hosting? Their familiar spirit, or they call it a Damon. They don't say demon, they say Damon. So how they do this is they'll. They'll pay this company to have me come there for a weekend. And I didn't get treated badly, but I knew what they wanted me to do. They. They wanted me to host, you know, a spirit or an entity for them in this particular entity they had met in, like, the 1500s. It's something that had been brought down through the generations. And in the beginning, they thought that this, you know, being connected to this entity is how they stayed rich and powerful, how they kept all their resources to themselves. But this ENT told me that that's total lies. It's that they have that stuff because they're born into it. He said that he has no bearing on how they maintain their riches. Like, he doesn't know why they think that. So they would have me. And sometimes there was another person with me. They would have us, you know, kind of, you know, lay down. They start doing their thing. And not. It's not always, like, elaborate rituals or anything like that, because it's not needed for people to host. You don't. When people think that they're doing, like, all this high magic and things like that, I get it. And, you know, there's a whole process. Process. But people that can do hosting, we don't need to do all that. All I need to do is somebody to count it, count me down, you know, from maybe 20 to 1, and I can do it. So it's not like an elaborate ritual is needed. Like, you know, people think. Is it? Yeah, it's really strange that people think that you have to do a ritual to call forth being into this world. And it's not all you need is a portal person. And that's what Dr. Green used to call me. He used to call me, say I was one of the portal people. So all you need is somebody that has, like, an internal portal, which I do. I have a. I'm more of like a receiver. There's other people that are kind of like expellers. They push their energy out. Mine is more like a pulling in of the energy in my area, which is the solar plexus. So we would do this where we would lay down and we get, you know, ready to have this hosting. And what they wanted me to do is they wanted me to host their. Their familiar Damon, and they wanted to have dinner with him. So that's what I did. I let this thing take over my body. And I remember when I tried to stand up, that my legs felt like they were £100 each. Like I could barely walk. I was, like, trudging through mud trying to get to the table where they had all this food set up. And I don't think that they anticipated, you know, what it would look like to have, you know, and, you know, an ancient demonic spirit, you know, eat. Eat dinner at a table. They thought it would be something elegant. I think it wasn't, because he eats like an animal. And I was, you know, ripping and tearing food like an. Like an animal. And it wasn't anything like. I don't think it was the image that they got in their head of what an ancient being would do. And. And this being was very kind of, like, not happy with what they were asking for, because they were asking questions like that you would ask, like a psychic at a psychic fair, you know, about their business. If Their husband was cheating and things, and he was very upset. And these. These. The dark side has very strict hierarchy, and they have a very strict rule about respect and things like that. He find that. He found that very disrespectful that they called an ancient God to ask, you know, for tricks, parlor tricks. He said, you called me down here for parlor tricks, kind of. And some of these people are trying to, you know, make what they consider moon children or children of the moon, they call them. If somebody is, you know, having relations with somebody that's hosting, they feel like if some. There was a. How do I say it? If something were to come out of that, you know, a particular sexual interaction, they believe that product is part of a demonic bloodline, something like that. So they're trying to create their own army of antichrists in that way. So. And that's something that they still do, and they still. They still purchase that kind of thing. And there are people that can do it. It's not just me. There are other people, are mediums that can do this kind of thing that aren't. That are kind of, you know, either trained or had this brought out in them or, you know, they have fostered it themselves, something like that.
[79:44]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Now, some of these things that you've interacted with and they're speaking through you.
[79:53]
Ryan Seacrest
So
[79:56]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
does. I'm trying. Do you understand? Like, do you see what they see? Like, do you have their memories at that time, or are you only able to.
[80:04]
Olivia James
I'm in the. I'm in their head, they're in mine.
[80:06]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay?
[80:07]
Olivia James
And it's a. It's a real merging of energies. Sometimes when they take over my body, I like to step. Step aside and lay down and take a rest. But there is never a time where if I felt any type of. Of threat, my higher self can, you know, kind of push through and speak. Because I've done it a lot of times if there was some things. And usually it's only in interactions with, you know, human handlers that I was, you know, hey, at least I will bust through. My higher self will kind of smash through and say, hey, these guys are up to no good. You know, in that, you know, not in such a nice way I say that, but I say these guys are up to no good. Just be careful of these people. Or if they're. I've had one entity that I did too, I try to warn people about because usually I don't really have a bad experience until, you know, unless they say something where I'm kind of like, well, yeah, they have really deceived people, you know, so there's a couple of them that people think are. They've kind of made a resurgence. And they're female, a female one. And people are getting tattoos of this particular one. They consider themselves reincarnation of this goddess. They think it's a goddess. And she did say. She told me, she's like. She wanted to thank everyone, you know, she said, thank you. You for bringing me back to life. Because these particular entities, they feel like they're dying out. They feel like. Because they consider themselves a race of beings, they say our race is dying out because nobody is here to worship us. Nobody is following us anymore because they think that, you know, we have found new gods in this particular, you know, lifetime. We have found new gods to worship, you know, gods of money and, you know, things like that. We worship other things besides the old gods, so they feel like they're dying. But this particular being, she considers herself a goddess, But. And she did tell me. She's like, yeah, I am. She thinks that people think she's an angel. She's like, I am an angel, but I'm an angel of darkness. And she wanted to thank everybody for bringing her life again by speaking about her, you know, by showing images of her and things like that, they're making her live again.
[82:12]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I do have another question regarding that. You said an angel of darkness. These beings, where are they from? And I don't want to go in, like, to the religious aspect of it or anything like that, but, like, when people talk about demons, obviously, then you have to talk about angels. And then if you talk about that, you have to talk about God, then it's almost like the whole Christianity or Judea, but.
[82:38]
Olivia James
And I'm not particularly. I'm not religious, so I don't want anybody to think that I'm subscribing to religion. I'm not religious person. I don't believe in organized religion. And I don't know why certain beings choose me as a messenger if I'm not even religious. It. It's interesting to me, too.
[82:55]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, because I'm. I'm like, where you are. Like, I grew up in a very Christian home, but I don't practice organized religion. I have my own beliefs. But for me, same, same.
[83:06]
Olivia James
I don't believe in it. Yeah, I don't believe in organized religion.
[83:09]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Like, I think there are definitely higher powers and beings and stuff like that.
[83:14]
Ryan Seacrest
But I know.
[83:14]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Don't. I don't know. I don't condone to what man tells Me to do same with me.
[83:22]
Olivia James
That's why I kind of take my, I use my own experience when people say something's evil and I'm like, well you know, in my personal experience I, you know, I've, you know, interacted with these, you know, certain beings and they didn't really, and I hate to say this and I don't want to scare anybody but when I'm holding, hosting a darker entity and then the light one, I don't really feel that different on the inside. I don't feel, you know, once people think oh I have, you know, positive energy or dark energy, I don't feel that it's energy and it's, you know, it's letting it take over my body. I don't feel like one is dark and one is light. I never, I've never felt that what
[84:02]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
determines really interesting light and which one's dark. Like that's where I want for me.
[84:07]
Olivia James
I, for me it's not going to be the same as other people because like I said, I've been to come very conflicted in fact that humans are doing the ones doing so much wrong to this earth. And you know, I'm getting a lot of really important information from darker entities. They're telling me things, they've been able to give me information on, you know, different programs and things using their all seeing information. And it's, that to me is conflicting. So you know, I don't really have an answer to that because I wouldn't be the person because I wouldn't consider, consider them evil. Knowing a lot of them, you know, meeting them and them and they even said that I'm one of their kindred spirits, you know, kind of because of how I used what I was in a past life. That's why they don't harm me. That's why they don't, you know, almost like protective spirits in a way. They say they're here, they won't let anything happen to me. So it, to me it's, it's hard for me to grasp that because, and especially not being religious, I can't say something is dark or light because I don't even, you know, think about in those terms.
[85:14]
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[86:15]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, for me, it's like, I feel like there are, I don't want to say misunderstood. I'm not trying to be Apollo, like, yes, apologist to any sort of side, but I think there's a lot of misconceptions between what's really good and what's really not good and darkness, lightness. I've said this a few times here recently on other episodes. A lot of people say that we are light beings, like, but I think a lot of people are dirt bags.
[86:48]
Olivia James
And how do, and how do we deal with it? When I say I'm inside myself a dark entity, and then I'm a good person in this life, how do I explain that to people? You know what I mean? And I've come across people, I, I definitely, because I talk about my reincarnation a lot. And they, there are literally people that said they've never done anything bad in any past lives. People have literally said that. They've already said, they say I've been good every life. And I'm like, well, I think you might want to think about that because do you think I, you know, in this lifetime who I am, do you think I would have thought that I was a dark entity before? Never. That would have never crossed my imagination in any way. But it was a huge wake up call for me to see that. There, there's so much, much that we haven't even become aware of yet because we haven't. We're, we're afraid to, you know, look into that other parts of ourselves.
[87:41]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't know how the average person would be able to do that. Is there a way that they could?
[87:48]
Olivia James
You know, a lot of it is even just meditating, even getting to a point where you're reaching that Meditative state. That's. I did a lot of practice like that on my own, just meditating. And of course, when, at first, when I first started, started doing it, I had a lot of V2K experiences because whatever was trying to control me knew that I was getting close to something very special. And they would always send me a mental message, you know, if you come any close. I remember this exact phrase when I would. And there was no other way for me, this to happen. There was nothing around, no phones, no nothing. It was me meditating in my own bed during the day. And it said, if you come any closer, we're going to take, take everything from you. They literally told me that. So it was a real threat to say to stop talking about this, stop searching, stop looking into this, stop telling people what you can say, you know, what you can do and what you found. That's not something they want out, you know, to people to know, you know, because I see how, how it can affect people because me being able to do this, it has dropped a lot of fear away, away from me. You know, fear that I had of like the dark and the dark side and evil. I was terrified. And a lot of that fear has kind of dissipated. Imagine if a lot of other people were able to drop that fear, you know, what then, what about all the people that are trying to keep, keep us in that fear state? What's going to happen then? If a lot of us drop the fear, you know, of these things and, and not being controlled by it, it. It's. I can't even imagine what could, what could happen now.
[89:23]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I don't know. It's a very taboo subject, especially for people that are super religious, because when you talk about things like this and they're. You're conversing with demons, they're manipulative, they're evil. They're obviously going to tell you things just to try and get your soul and all sorts of things which I don't understand.
[89:41]
Olivia James
And I understand their ideas, I understand what they're saying, but that has not been my experience. And it, like I, I said, it's not. They are not the only people that I have hosted, like recently I just hosted. It was a couple months ago, Jesus and his mother Mary. And like I said, I'm not religious. So to have them come through and give me the most detailed information about the crucifixion, about, you know, what happened to her during the day of his crucifixion, it was mindblowing. I'm not even religious. And I was mind blown about what had happened that day and what he saw. And he said that when he was up on the cross, he said in doing that he wanted to show the world, world what he can do and that he also wanted to show us we could do by leaving the physicality of the body behind that there, that is not the real you. There's so much more to this world. So do you mean. Imagine getting messages like this? And it's really conflicting to me. And why would they choose me if I'm evil and if I'm talking demonic entities, why would they choose me to give this amazing information? And a lot of this is in my book. So I put it in there. I put the whole, whole conversation with Jesus and the whole conversation with Mary, which was my favorite, you know, one of my favorite things I've ever done, just because of the fact that I had never heard any. This is not information that you can hear, you know, other people talk about. You don't find it in any book. This is straight from, you know, straight from them. In my opinion. In my experience, it was straight from them.
[91:08]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I kind of already asked it again though. But like they could say they're Jesus, but how are you 100% certain that was.
[91:19]
Olivia James
I'm 100% in my soul. What I know is right. Other people, they would have to, in I, I believe that in order for them to really, you know, 100% believe, they would have to be doing what I do and sit in my seat, you know, and experience what I experience to get the full picture of what it would be like to have something as big as that inside your body speaking. They won't know until they can experience it just like any other, you know, medium that's do you know, they get the same, they get the same backlash. It's not, I'm. I'm not, I'm used to it. So it's not going to hurt my feelings when people say, you know, that I'm lying or whatever, I don't care, you know, I'm just trying to do what I was told to do. And my own dead father told me to do this. He me told, told me to burn the system down. And he was very serious. He said, go out there and tell everybody what they did and what they made us do. And that's kind of how I stay true to this whole thing, this whole thing that I'm doing by writing these books and getting this information out that I've obtained and taken a huge risk to get to people and all they want to do is, you know, kind of focus on, oh, she's evil, she's talking to demons. You don't see all the information I've gotten about these programs about tortured children and giving it to the world. You know, I'm taking a huge risk doing this. I take a huge risk every time I remote view bases and try to remote remote view documents for people. That's a huge risk to myself in order to help the world and get them the information. Because I'm staying true to what my father told me to do.
[92:47]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah, I was more or less not so much them saying, you're lying, but like the beans themselves lying, saying they're something.
[92:56]
Olivia James
I guess that's in people's own belief system systems. That's their religious belief systems. That's not, you know, that's not in my belief system and, or in my experience. So they have to, you know, deal with their own beliefs in terms of how they feel. And if it's not for them, it's not for them. I don't have any harsh feelings about that if they don't want to listen to the information. But it's there for people to look at and to, you know, see what's being said at least.
[93:25]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I just know, like, again, if you listen to religious types of people, like a demon's going to lie to you, so it's going to tell you things that it's going to impersonate whoever it's going to make you think it's good. Like, I understand how that works because that's how I was raised. So I understand too.
[93:50]
Olivia James
Yeah, I understand too. But I'm. I'm not afraid of that. And I'm not afraid of hearing them fake because why would they fake when I am one of them? Why do they need to fake to me? I'm one of them. I'm one of their people. That's why I've created such a huge connection with them, is because in the past life I was one of them. They tell me that too. They said that's why we're connected, because you are one of us. So I can't. And I never lie about it. I don't. I try to stay as authentic as I can by telling that story that I want was one of them. And that's how I make this connection with them. And that's why I know they're not lying to me. Because why would they need to lie to one of their own people if it's one of you guys? Okay, maybe they want to lie to you, but I don't. And I've never heard any really. I haven't heard a lot of lies from them. I hear a lot of lies from humans, but not necessarily them.
[94:42]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I know it for just general, like you're. You're 100% correct with the human aspect. A lot of people are liars and don't do good things and manipulative. That's just human nature. And it kind of makes me go back to wonder why we are the way we are, which there is no real rhyme or reason as to that. Everyone has their own choice of what they try to do. I try and I think I try to do good in the world, but maybe to someone else, I don't.
[95:12]
Olivia James
It's a lot of. It's based on. On perspective. It's based on perception and what you consider good and what you consider evil. And people have. I. People in their own selves had to figure out what they can. And I'm not trying to tell anybody what to consider good and evil. I'm saying this is my experience. And what I've experienced is going to be different from other people because of my abilities and what I've been able to obtain with it. You know, not a lot of people can travel as far as as I've gone. They just can't. And I wouldn't want them to because it's a risk. So I would. You know, I'm taking the risk for other people to get the information. But I totally understand if somebody's afraid of it because I've been doing this for a few years now and I hear it all the time about what they think kind of person I am, you know, just based on the fact that I'm a medium and I'm able to get information, I totally get it.
[96:04]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Would you claim you said you're one of them? So if someone said you're a dark entity, would that be true?
[96:12]
Olivia James
It's true because it's in my cellular level. It was me in a past life and that. And I can't delete it or eliminate it no more than anybody else can delete one of their past lives. If somebody knows how to delete a past life, please let me know. I've never heard of anybody do been able to delete a past life or eliminate it. And why would I want to? It was an experience that I needed to figure out, you know, what darkness was. And even in that stage, she thought she was doing something for good, for people because they called out to the darkness and she's Right when I was harlowing, people did call out to this, and they still do call out to the darkness still, you know. You know, my father even called out to darkness. He told me that when he was young, he called out to the darkness for protection. So people are doing. Still doing this. We call. When I was a demonic entity, we called it a heart call. We called it the beckoning. That's the word they use, the beckoning. When somebody calls forth an ancient God, we don't call ourselves demons. We never did. We called ourselves gods. So when people are thinking about, you know, the current demonic entities, these are what they used to call gods in ancient times. In ancient times, we were called gods. So it's kind of shifted based on, you know, current times and time frames, culture, everything, subconscious cultures. It. You got to see how powerful culture is too, and how it shifted than the words and the images of what we use to describe these beings.
[97:39]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Right. I think you actually gave me an idea to use for the name of this episode, so. But is there anything else you'd like to discuss before we try to wrap this up? I know you have the books and everything, so I want you to look.
[97:53]
Olivia James
Yeah, we can definitely wrap up up my. Both of my books are on Amazon. And please, if anybody has any questions, if they want to discuss anything, you can find me on Tik Tok, on Olivia James, the Gray Mouse. So if you have. If you read the book and you have any questions, just reach out to me and we can discuss it. No problem.
[98:09]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Are your books available on Amazon?
[98:11]
Olivia James
Yes, they're both on Amazon.
[98:13]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Okay. I will make. Make sure to send me a. I do this a lot. I tell people to send me links so I can put it in the show notes, and then the episodes come out. There's no links in the show notes, and everyone's like, he's not putting links. I just don't ever get them sent to me.
[98:25]
Olivia James
No, I'll send it to you. No problem.
[98:27]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
I was like, I don't have the time to go and search for things because I do 800 different things a day. So I'm also forgetful, so I forget to go look for the stuff. So if you send it to me, I'll make sure to put it in there for everyone.
[98:39]
Olivia James
Okay, sounds great.
[98:40]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
But no, I appreciate you coming on here tonight and talking with me. It's been a lot to. Lot to take in, lot to think about. So.
[98:48]
Olivia James
Yeah, it's different. It's definitely different. Information. Information.
[98:50]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
You're the first time I can say that. I've interviewed a dark entity. So.
[98:55]
Olivia James
Yeah, thank you. Nice to meet you as well.
[98:59]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
It's. I said this will be a taboo episode for some people.
[99:03]
Olivia James
But yeah. And I. And I get it. And like I said, that's why I offer. If anybody want to discuss it, they can, you know, talk to me about the book. It's totally fine. But I think if they read the book, they'll kind of have a. Because me talking about it is so different from having all the information in one spot to kind of flip through. I think if they actually read the entire book series and, you know, saw, you know, the beginning and the end of it and what I. What is actually being said, it might, you know, kind of work a little bit better that way, rather than me just, you know, jumping back and forth between stories.
[99:37]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
Yeah. Well, we're gonna wrap this one up, so I want to say thank you to Olivia and thank you to everyone. Yep. And I want you to have a good night. And everyone out there listening to have a good, good night, too. We're going to wrap it up, so catch you on the next one. All right.
[99:53]
Olivia James
Thank you.
[100:00]
Brandon from Tinfoil Tells
If you would like to be a guest on Tinfoil Tells, remember to send an email to tinfoiltelspodcastgmail.com or you can also go to tinfoiltels.com and go to the contact section. Just make sure to reach out and get a hold of me and we will get something scheduled for a future episode. You can also find Tinfoil Tales on Facebook and Instagram. Instagram. Just look for Tinfoil Tells podcast. You reach out to me that way, too. Remember to share the show around. Word of mouth is the best way to help the show grow. And just remember, truth comes at cost. Are you willing to pay the price? It.
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Tinfoil Tales | Space, Mind Control, with a Former Demon

Tinfoil Tales | Space, Mind Control, with a Former Demon

Podcast Summary: Cult of Conspiracy – Tinfoil Tales: Space, Mind Control, with a Former Demon

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Olivia’s Background and Her Books

Introduction to “Hosting,” Abilities, and Spirits

Childhood, Parental Backstory, and Entry into MK Ultra

Past Lives as Selection Criteria

Project Traveler & Contact with Dr. Green

Discovery of Adult Abilities, Bleed-Through, and Hypnotic Sessions

Mechanisms of Truth, Deception, and Handler Entities

Secret Space Program, Moon/Mars Missions, and “20 and Back”

Consent, Contracts, and Manipulation

Occult, Demonic, and “Hosting” Work

Nature of Demons, Angels, and “Good & Evil”

Overcoming Fear, Message for Listeners

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timeline of Key Segments

Final Takeaways

Olivia James' Books:

Podcast Summary: Cult of Conspiracy – Tinfoil Tales: Space, Mind Control, with a Former Demon

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

Olivia’s Background and Her Books

Introduction to “Hosting,” Abilities, and Spirits

Childhood, Parental Backstory, and Entry into MK Ultra

Past Lives as Selection Criteria

Project Traveler & Contact with Dr. Green

Discovery of Adult Abilities, Bleed-Through, and Hypnotic Sessions

Mechanisms of Truth, Deception, and Handler Entities

Secret Space Program, Moon/Mars Missions, and “20 and Back”

Consent, Contracts, and Manipulation

Occult, Demonic, and “Hosting” Work

Nature of Demons, Angels, and “Good & Evil”

Overcoming Fear, Message for Listeners

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Timeline of Key Segments

Final Takeaways

Olivia James' Books: