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Literally JUST What The Gov Says About Vaccines | @justtheinserts
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Alexandra Clark
Are patients getting True Informed Consent?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
In America, the average doctor appointment is about 15 minutes. Informed consent is a basic human right. Everyone has the right to accept, delay or decline any or all medical products. Even if you and I are 100% vaccinated according to the manufacturer, we may not be protected.
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Alexandra Clark
You've gotten kicked out of pediatrician offices.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
When you walk into a pediatrician's office, they will walk in and say these are the products that your child needs today. Not have you thought about these products for your child? There is an automatic assumption that the pediatrician has a authority over you and your child's body, and that's not the case.
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Alexandra Clark
She created her Instagram account in 2020 to help patients and parents looking for government information on pharmaceutical products. You know her as Just the Inserts. Her real name is Alexandra, just like me and she has always been an anonymous account until now. Just the Inserts provides training and resources to patients and parents looking for credible information about pharmaceutical products to make informed medical decisions sourced from government resources. The insights within the Just the Inserts website, book and social media are for everyone from the parent trying to navigate childhood vaccination to the patient that just received a complicated medical diagnosis. Watch this episode on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or Culture Apothecary on Spotify.
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Taylor Duke
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Alexandra Clark
To support the show. If you want to become a financial supporter, you can gift us a tax deductible donation through the link in the show notes. This show is produced entirely by donations from listeners like you who believe in our mission to healing illicit culture physically, mentally and spiritually. Please welcome Alexandra, AKA Just the Inserts to Culture Apothecary. So you are Just the Inserts. What made you decide to finally reveal your identity?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Well, I hid my identity for a long time because I really wanted people to focus on Just the Inserts. But it's really hard to spread that message when you're hiding behind a logo. So there are some incredible opportunities that I turned down the last four years and and it just wasn't the right time for me to come out with my family. I've had three kids since I started Just the Inserts and Just the political climate wasn't I wasn't ready, wasn't the time to do that. As things started to change and I noticed that more and more people were talking about the importance of informed consent and you weren't as crazy to talk about vaccines or talk about other aspects of the pharmaceutical industry. It made me more comfortable and really rfk having part of his political platform to be questioning some of the cultural norms that we're all just told that we need to accept. It made me realize it's time, it's time for me to come out. It's time for me to spread the message. I can reach so much more people with my face, associated with the, with the brand. So I'm so excited to be here and finally be doing that.
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Alexandra Clark
Who are you? I mean, you're, you're a mom, you're a wife. How do you know, know how to read these inserts? How do you understand all of this?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Well, it really started out of necessity for my own personal health journey. And that started when I was active duty military. I experienced quite a few adverse reactions. When I was active duty military, I suffered from severe adult acne, like very painful adult acne for about five years. And that whole process forced me to look at the things that I was accepting. The pharmaceuticals I was accepting, the products that I used in my home and the things that I wore, the things that I put in my, for my baby. And it really just started to make me realize that the things that are easily available in big box stores might not be the best thing. And it forced me to start questioning. So I ended up being more natural minded. And in that process. When I became pregnant with my first child, I wanted to have a natural childbirth. So I researched. I wasn't ready for a home birth that was too crazy for me. But I researched and found a birthing center attached to a hospital. And I went through the hospital tour and the pamphlet was all the buzzwords, all the crunchy buzzwords. It was golden hour delayed, cord clamping, essential oils, diffused in the room, a labor pool, stuff like that. So it definitely made me feel comfortable and that it was going to be what I wanted. Unfortunately, that was a very traumatic experience for me. It was a 44 hour lab and I had some medical bullying and coercion that occurred during that experience. In that process, I ended up accepting a medical product that injured my child. And when she was injured, I knew I was a nanny. As a kid, I babysat. I knew what babies were normally like and she was in pain and she was suffering. And so it really forced me to start wondering what did I accept and how has that been tied to what I'm experiencing as a new parent? So it was the vitamin K injection, the synthetic vitamin K injection, that was the only thing that she had had. And it forced me to start looking for the inserts. I didn't know what they were at the time. But I knew that there had to be some kind of document behind the products because every product on a market has some kind of legal document behind it. So I knew that there was something there. Once I found it, I actually got down on my knees and praise God that she didn't have all the other reactions that were listed. There's fatal reactions that are known to be caused by the synthetic vitamin K injection. So I was grateful that she hadn't experienced all of those other reactions. But I was really mad because I felt betrayed by the people that I paid a lot of money to share expert experience and advice to me. Nobody ever told me that there were known adverse reactions.
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Alexandra Clark
Is this something that affects her even now?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Today she does. She has some liver concerns. Thankfully, we were able to take care of her gastro issues. She was colic, she was jaundice. There were just a slew of issues. So we were able to heal as much as we can. We are very strict with her diet, very strict with all of the products that she uses. So that's forced us to really focus on that. But, but overall, praise God, she's recovered and she's a very healthy five year old now. Very spunky.
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Alexandra Clark
When did you decide? Now I'm going to make this Instagram account called Just the Inserts and I'm going to start going through the inserts of all of these different pharmaceutical medical products, procedures for people.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Well, I started posting on my personal Instagram and a lot of people didn't like that. I was shadow banned. I had people, I had men contacting my husband asking if he knew what I was doing. They were concerned about my mental health.
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Alexandra Clark
Concerned about your mental health because you were sharing what type of information?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Government documents about pharmaceutical products. I. I strictly stuck with.gov information and when I was deleted, I was deleted because I shared.gov websites. That's what Instagram said.
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Alexandra Clark
So none of this is opinion. Nothing that just the inserts is posting is opinion or your experience or anecdotal. It is all documentation from the government, correct?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yes. Yes. So when I first started researching.
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Alexandra Clark
And then the government shadow banned you.
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Taylor Duke
For sharing their own info.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
This is juicy. So I was prior military, right. I have a lot of friends that are military. When I started sharing more and more and my Instagram blew up, it started getting really popular. And then I had my website, I had people that I knew from the military saying that they could not access my website on any DoD computer. It had been blocked. Whoa.
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Alexandra Clark
So the government was actually actively censoring you for sure.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Which is crazy because my entire website, 99.9% of my website are dot gov links. So this is all information that you can find. It's just very hidden. And so what I do is I just streamline the research. You could find everything that I post, you can find it all yourself. It just is going to take you a while. And it took me a while. I easily have over 10,000 of hours of research on this topic.
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Alexandra Clark
Are pharmaceutical companies the arbiters of science?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
No, they are not the judge, the jury, they are not the final decision on what is or isn't science. And I elaborate that in the book I talk about how science has been around for as long as people were starting to have unbiased observation and experimentation on the natural world. Pharmaceutical company utilizes science to produce their products. But they aren't the only ones science still exists without the pharmaceutical company.
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Alexandra Clark
Can science be bought and paid for?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Absolutely. Anything can.
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Alexandra Clark
Why is it important for somebody to acknowledge their preconceived notions before starting to read the information packets on vaccines or pharmaceutical drugs? I thought that was an interesting point.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Of your book, speaking from experience. That's why I wrote it. Because when I first started researching, my mom had researched for me. She had researched the tdap, the preventative product for tetanus, diphtheria and pertussis. When I was pregnant with my first, I had asked her to research it for me and when she called me back, she was living across the country at the time and she called me back a few days later and she had had this sense of anxiety and just urgency in her voice. It sounded as if I was on the edge of a cliff getting ready to jump off. And she was just so forceful and so emotional about what I was going to potentially accept. And it really turned me off. I'm not one to be told what to do. And so it made me reject her. And I wanted to hear just from the source. I always say go straight to the source. And so I started researching inserts. And what really floored me, the pivotal moment was I was reading a manufacturer insert for dtap and that's the same. It's a preventative product for diphtheria, tetanus and pertussis. So TDAP is for pregnant. DTAP is for infants. I was reading that. And Sudden Infant Death Syndrome is listed as a known potential adverse reaction to a product that is given to two, four and six month old babies. And according to the nih, that's the highest rate of synths SIDS in America. Wait a minute.
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Alexandra Clark
So the NIH says this vaccine we know causes an increase in sids. So this is coming from a government entity? I've never heard that.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah. Why is this not front page news?
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Alexandra Clark
Because I think people wonder that if there is a link between some of the things on the schedule and sids.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Well, now what most people will say is they will say, well, that's very rare, or it's a legal document and therefore the manufacturer has to list something on there because they. They have to protect themselves from being sued. Well, there's two issues with that. The first is vaccine manufacturers are not held liable for their products causing serious injury or harm or death. The National Childhood vaccination Act of 1986 has removed liability from manufacturers to be held accountable. There is a national compensation injury program for vaccines, but that is funded by excise tax on vaccines. So when you accept a vaccine, you are paying 75 cents per disease that's prevented to go towards an injury compensation program for vaccine, injury and death.
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Alexandra Clark
Never heard that before.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Never heard that.gov information. I have it all on the website. So what's interesting, if you have a trivalent flu vaccine, it's only preventing one vaccine. So it's 75 cents. If you have MMR or TDAP or anything like that, it's $2.25 per vaccine because it's counted on each disease that's prevented.
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Taylor Duke
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Oh, yes.
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Alexandra Clark
I love when you bring the receipts.
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Alexandra Clark
Are patients getting true informed consent in America?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I would argue no, not at large. And the reason being is there's not enough time. The average doctor appointment is about 15 minutes and it's even less for pediatrician visits. There is not enough time to go over all of the warnings and precautions, all the contraindications, all the drug interactions, all of the risks and benefits that go along with any of those products in those appointments. I do not think too that when you go to a doctor's appointment, you're also being assessed for milestones, speech delays, growth inhibitors, all these other things. When you go to a pediatrician's appointment or a doctor's appointment, there are so many other things that they have to cover. There is no way that informed consent is properly being assessed for every patient.
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Alexandra Clark
You've gotten kicked out of pediatrician offices. This is something that I spoke about at my Senate speech when I testified at the Senate on chronic disease. I brought up my whole speech was on Millennial moms. Everybody's seen that by now. And I talked about the struggles, not only us being essentially science experiments since birth without our consent, but then us trying to raise our own kids, the hoops that we have to jump through to raise healthy kids. And one of the things I brought up and people were like, does that really happen? Was I said there are parents getting kicked out of their pediatricians offices for questioning things that can be found on the inserts. And this happened to you?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yes. Multiple times? Yes. And I talk about in the book. And the reason is the American Academy of Pediatrics, they have plenty of resources on their website about how to increase vaccine acceptance for their patients. So they adopt a presumptive approach strategy. When you walk into a pediatrician's office, they will walk in and say these are the products that your child needs today. Not have you thought about these products for your child? So there is an automatic assumption that the pediatrician has authority over you and your child's body and that's not the case. So when you question that and you have questions about the products. Very valid questions. That can be an issue for some pediatricians. Another issue can be that that time spent discussing about products is not billable. I link a CDC study of pediatricians that deal with vaccine. Hesitant parents actually have lower job satisfaction, which to me is pretty crazy. That's your job. If you're a pediatrician. You need to address all the concerns that a patient has about their. The products that you're recommending.
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Alexandra Clark
So how can somebody know if they have made a medical decision with true informed consent or not?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
The American Academy Association's definition of informed consent is that the patient has access to all the information about that product. What I deem to be it would be the manufacturer insert. So the manufacturer insert is a pamphlet that is provided for every single prescription pharmaceutical. The manufacturers have to state clinical trial information. They have to state any information about drug interactions and food interactions as well. So for Adderall, it states in the insert that Adderall will be limited. The effectiveness of Adderall will be limited if you have vitamin C. So these are things that the manufacturer knows about their products. That's important for you to know. Just even if you accept it, that's important for you to know. And then there's other warnings and precautions and contraindications. Anything that can increase your risk for an adverse reaction, we'll go back to D tap. So dtap, they have a warning and precaution and a contraindication. If your child has over three hours of inconsolable crying after a DTAP injection, it will be a sign that they will have an increased risk for a more serious adverse reaction in a subsequent DTAP injection.
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Alexandra Clark
And how many D TAP injections are there? Is there like a series or something?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
There is. Most of them have a series. Yeah, most of them. And the CDC changes the schedule.
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Alexandra Clark
All these are the little things that I don't know because I don't have kids yet. So I'm glad to ask you. You say that informed consent is actually a human right. Could you explain that?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So every human has the right to accept, delay, or decline a medical product. If you accept a medical product, you need to be aware of any of the potential adverse reactions so that you can expedite treatment and eliminate diagnostic confusion. That's the main part of informed consent. Even if you plan to accept the product, if you plan to delay a product, you just need to know maybe more about your condition. You maybe need to find a second opinion. Maybe the provider that you're working with is not who you want to work with maybe there's another option somewhere else that you can go with. And then if you decline a product, you can either seek alternative treatment with that provider or you can find a new provider. Every person has the right, whenever they receive a diagnosis from their medical provider to get a second opinion, to research that product and then accept, delay or decline that product.
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Alexandra Clark
How often do you think the doctors are reading the inserts?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So I have many, many medical providers that follow me and almost all of them say they do not read a manufacturer insert until they themselves are responsible for a potential adverse reaction or they become parents. And that's a huge problem. Now I also have had pharmaceutical representatives that have contacted me and they say yes, doctors do read inserts, but only when they are presented by a pharmaceutical representative to compare a competitor's product.
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Alexandra Clark
Hearing that is a similar feeling. I get to knowing that, you know, our physicians have less than a day or, or zero days spent on nutrition.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yes.
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Alexandra Clark
When they're in med school. Doesn't this, this seem like something that should be the American standard for the well being of Americans? Nope. Yeah, Nope. Sometimes people think that they are given the full insert on a vaccine or a medication or a prescription, but they're actually only given part of the information unless they press their doctor.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yes.
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Alexandra Clark
What's that about?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Most of them are called medication guides. If you're talking about vaccines, they're called vaccine information statements. And that, that was born out of the National Childhood vaccination Act of 1986. And what that did is it was supposed to basically save time for the provider. It was supposed to be, here's an information for you to know, like a short version. The example that I give in the book is like if you're looking at a product, it's the outside of the box. It's kind of just the quick information that you need to know about a product. However, most products that we see on the market, if you open up the box, there's going to be a more intense manufacturer instruction. It's going to tell you if there's a kind of battery in here that can blow up your house. These are the things you need to know not to plug it in in a certain way or something like that. That's just an example. So there are manufacturer inserts that feed the medication guide or feed the vaccine information statement, but they are the ones that's where all the information is. The concerning thing is there was an amendment to the Childhood vaccination Act of 1986 and 1993 and it allowed the CDC to differ from manufacturer inserts.
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Alexandra Clark
What does that mean?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
A great example is for the DTAP insert, they didn't have to say sids, they just had to say, in rare circumstances, a vaccine might cause death.
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Alexandra Clark
What?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah. So as a parent, if you're looking at that, you just think, oh, everything can cause death. Water can cause death, Eating an avocado can cause death. That's just some legal jargon, but if parents really knew that a product given to their young infant can cause an sudden infant death syndrome, most parents would be quite concerned and ask more questions.
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Alexandra Clark
Yes. So do you say to your doct doctor, I want the vaccine information statement, or is this something you get off Google or what?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So most of the time they will have it in the office, they'll give it to you. But that's just the high level. You really need to be reading the manufacturer answer. And I would, I would suggest not to rely upon your doctor to do that. I would suggest.
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Alexandra Clark
Where do you get those?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I have a great website for you and a great book. So I teach you how to do all of that. It's actually very simple. All you have to do is take the trade name or the generic name of whatever product you're researching and then type in FDA insert after that and the F today insert will pop up. Look for a.gov link, the most recent one in the most recent year. You'll see it in the URL. And that will most likely be your manufacturer.
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Alexandra Clark
Yeah, so I did this when I was reading your book. I was like, okay, I'm going to try this, see if I can do it. So I typed in Ambien. I said, ambien, FDA insert. Several different, you know, government links popped up. And then I looked in the URL, like you said, and like, there was one from 2009. I was like, there's got to be way recent. Then it was like 2016. I was like, that's, that's, you know, let's see if there's any more. There was like 2021 and then there was 2022. So then I looked at the 2022 one and I, I learned something from you.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I love it.
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Alexandra Clark
So it's very, very easy. Your book is so interesting. I was like, man, you were so smart. You know women so well because you not only write out every step, but you did, like, screenshots of what it would look like on your computer. Also in this section to, like, here's what you're looking for and all this. So it's like literally a picture guide step by step. How to read your inserts, how to find them.
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Taylor Duke
Very, very well done.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I'm a very visual person. It was good. So that was important for me that I needed. And especially too when you're a new mom, you're not going to want to read just pages and pages of text.
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Alexandra Clark
Yeah.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
You just need something quick that you can reference.
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Alexandra Clark
This is a short book with all the info. I think this is a great little baby shower gift to throw into your gift bag.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Too many people have done that.
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Alexandra Clark
How often do inserts change?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
It depends. So if a formula changes, the manufacturer driven change, if a formula changes, a dosage, recommended changes or anything like that, the manufacturer will drive that. The other end is if the FDA pressures there to be a change. So if there happens to be a high number of adverse reactions that are associated with that product, the FDA will make the manufacturer update it. And most of the time when that happens, they'll do what's called a black box warning. It used to be called that, now it's just called box warnings. But you'll see that on the first page of the insert it'll be a big black box and it'll say the biggest things that are associated. So for O oic, the thyroid cancer alert is on the first part of the insert. There's a whole bunch of different things that can be on there. That's just really important. That's meant to be the most important information when you look on an insert.
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Alexandra Clark
There's a lot of controversy in the functional medicine community about OIC because some people are very, very anti in all circumstances. And then you have some people that like it in like a micro dose setting. Based on what you've read on the inserts, do you think microdosing Ozempic could be safe?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Here's my issue. It's not just GLP1, it has propylene glycol, which is the preservative. And I put this on my website. There is a CDC warning about injecting that long term that ingredient. So it's not necessarily the active ingredient that I have an issue with. It's the, the other ingredients that are in it.
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Alexandra Clark
Something else nobody else has ever brought up that I've heard, right?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Oh, it drives me crazy when I see that. I just want to comment. Wait, you need to read the insert. Because if you read the insert you would see all these other ingredients that are on there. And that's what's important for informed consent. You need to know these other ingredients so then you can research it because that Specific ingredient might not have a whole bunch of information on the insert, but it gives you insight and a little breadcrumb for you to take that research and start researching it elsewhere and start understanding. Okay, if this ingredient, if I'm going to be accepting this product long term, I need to understand all their ingredients in this.
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Alexandra Clark
Have most over the counter products been evaluated by the fda?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
No, most of them haven't. So what they do is they have this recipe, it's like a recipe card and it says if you adhere to this recipe card for this certain ingredient, certain do whatever it is for whatever condition. An over the counter prescription does not need to be evaluated by the fda. So if you look at Miralax or you look at some other over the counter acetaminophen or something like that, it'll say that it has not been evaluated by the fda. To me it's concerning, especially when you start to look at drug interactions. There is no scientific study that has been done of all the vaccines that are given, all of the medications that are provided during a regular labor in America. Most of the drugs that are used when it, when you're talking about birth are used off label. Most cytotech is actually used for gastric ulcers, but they use that in America to Try to encourage contractions. So for me, when you look at a lot of these over the counter prescriptions, it's important to understand what the drug does, but also. So there's no research on how it interacts with other things that you're taking at the same time.
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Alexandra Clark
Can you tell us about the insert for epidural?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
The biggest thing I have about epidural, I almost accepted an epidural for my first birth because I was just in so much pain. I had horrible back labor. It was. I understand. I don't blame anyone for wanting to get an epidural. I totally get it. The thing is, most women that get an epidural have no idea that there are are listed adverse reactions that can affect your baby and affect your breastfeeding experience. It can increase your risk for anxiety and depression, which. Postpartum depression is a really big thing in America. And I actually, I didn't talk about this in the book, but I've talked about it in the past. I've talked about the CDC Foundation. The CDC foundation is a private entity that fundraises for campaigns to support the cdc. And there was one campaign that was meant to be for women that were suffering from postpartum depression. Unfortunately, unfortunately, that campaign was funded by a pharmaceutical company that had products with listed anxiety depression adverse reactions that are given to postpartum women. So here they were funding an awareness campaign to try to bring awareness about postpartum depression. But then they had products that contributed to postpartum depression.
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Alexandra Clark
That reminds me of Bayer and Glyphosate and Hodgkin's lymphoma.
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Right?
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Alexandra Clark
This is why this rabbit trail, it's like you start going down it and you, you want to believe the good in people. You want to believe other human beings could never do this to other human beings. And yet you read the frickin inserts, right?
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Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
And I will say I've talked with pharmaceutical employees. There's actually one pharmaceutical employee. She found my Clomid insert. Clomid is a fertility medication and her mother had taken it. And on the insert it says that it can cause fetal abnormalities. And this woman has only one thumb and she endured 20 surgeries within her first year of life. And she has so much pain from her fetal abnormality that she got at birth and she got into the pharma industry, she was making vaccines. And then she found my Clomid insert and she realized she had no clue. She had never been taught this. She had never been educated that there were inserts and that met manufacturers and the government entities that are in charge of pharmaceutical companies that regulate pharmaceutical companies know that these adverse reactions are listed. She had no idea. And she ended up leaving the industry because she just couldn't be a part of it anymore. So I do, I try to have grace because there are people who truly just want to make the world a better marketplace. They truly think that they are bringing some kind of charity work with, with their products. And unfortunately, according to the government and the manufacturers, that might not be the case.
- [30:37]
Alexandra Clark
So does just the inserts believe that parents have to choose one of two camps? You're either pro vax or anti.
- [30:45]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I actually don't believe in that. And that's what originally turned me off to this whole conversation is there was a false dichotomy that you had to be one or the other. And, and I do not think that there's actually a clear definition of each. Each person is going to have a different definition of who is pro vaccine is it you accept every single product on the market. If you delay any of them, are you no longer pro vaccine? And then for anti vaccine, is it you've never had a vaccine your entire life? Because that would make most of the anti vaxxers not anti vaxxers because they've accepted products or they have vaccinated their own children. So I don't even play with those terms. I say that I am pro informed consent. Informed consent is a basic human right. Everyone has the right to accept, delay or decline any or all medical products.
- [31:33]
Alexandra Clark
What are the questions that every parent should ask their pediatrician before saying yes to a vaccine for a child?
- [31:38]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Have they read the insert?
- [31:40]
Alexandra Clark
What do you think of these commonly used phrases? Vaccines provide immunity, vaccines save lives and vaccines provide herd immunity.
- [31:48]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
There. There's a lot of flaws to that logic and we'll go through just the basic ones. The first is most manufacturers have a section called limitations of effectiveness. And unfortunately it's very bare. It's just one sentence and it will say this product may not provide protection to every person that accepts it. So if that's the case, even if you and I are 100% vaccinated, according to the manufacturer, we may not be protected. So if that, if that's what the manufacturer is saying, there is no way to accomplish herd immunity. Even if everyone accepts that product, they're not going to be protected. All of them, according to the manufacturer. The other issue is there's a section called shedding. And I know shedding can be quite controversial. According. It can be. It can be. What's why well, so according to the cdc, shedding is when any part of the ingredient of the vaccine is shed, shed from the vaccinated person. There's also natural shedding. So if I were to get flu, I can naturally shed flu onto you through my nasal cavities or some. Like polio virus is actually through fecal matter. So if you don't wash your hands after going to the bathroom and then I touch your hand or we hug or something like that, I could shed the virus onto you. So the same thing happens with vaccines. And traditionally speaking, most shedding is done with live vaccines. So that's mmr, that's the flu, miss the influenza that goes up the nose. That's typically when we talk about shedding, that's most of the time what a manufacturer is talking about. A really good example is the polio vaccine. There was, there's an oral polio vaccine. So those are drops in the mouth. Those are known to cause paralytic polio in individuals that have been shed upon by recently vaccinated people. People. So that was why the oral polio vaccine was phased out, I believe in 1997, and was replaced with an inactivated polio vaccine. Now, according to the manufacturer and the cdc, even if you take an inactivated polio vaccine, you can still shed the vaccine and the natural virus onto other people.
- [33:55]
Alexandra Clark
Okay, so this debunks which vaccines providing immunity or vaccine save lives?
- [34:00]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Both. Because if you're, if, if you are a vaccinated person and you believe that you're fully protected and that you're protecting your immunocompromised family member, you might be putting them in danger. So that's the traditional speaking of, of shedding. Now when Covid came out, the COVID vaccine came out, everybody was worried, is it going to shed, is it not spike proteins, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I don't really cover that because there's so much debate in that. And every single source that you go to is going to have a different view on that. However, the CDC does speak to breakthrough infections. So those mirror shedding like events. So if I were to be 100% vaccinated for the COVID vaccine, the COVID vaccine does not stop the spread of COVID it just suppresses my symptoms. So if I had the coronavirus, that's, that leads to COVID 19 and I was 100% vaccinated, I would have no symptoms. Symptoms. So I wouldn't stay home. There would be nothing when you were sick this past weekend that alerted you to stay home. I don't have that. So I'm going to go out, I'm going to see family members, I'm going to go into the community, I'm going to go to large scale events and I'm going to shed that virus, that coronavirus to everyone that I meet because I don't know that I have symptoms. So Even though the COVID 19 vaccines aren't live, they still have a shedding like event because of breakthrough infections. And this is all on the CDC website site.
- [35:23]
Alexandra Clark
How do we know that vaccine injuries are underreported?
- [35:27]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
There was a million dollar grant that was awarded to a Harvard medical research group and they were tasked to study the effectiveness of the passive surveillance system that is called V's vaccine adverse event reaction system and fairs, which is the FDA's adverse event reaction system. Those are for drugs. So they were tasked to assemble, assess the effectiveness of this surveillance system. They came out and said that less than 1% of vaccine adverse reactions were reported through VAERS.
- [35:58]
Alexandra Clark
Why is that happening?
- [35:59]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Because if you think about it, so when I first read that I was like, that's bonkers. There's no way, like there's no way that that that program would be so inefficient and only Capture less than 1%. Then I started talking to medical professionals. Understaffing is a huge issue. It not being a part of the regular workflow.
- [36:17]
Alexandra Clark
Oh my gosh.
- [36:19]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
And most medical professionals are not required, they're not mandated to report adverse reactions within a certain. So if you were to receive a vaccine and your adverse reaction happened outside of the time window, normally it's about four to seven days. Then I don't have to. I'm not mandated to report.
- [36:37]
Alexandra Clark
That's an American scandal.
- [36:39]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
It's horrible. And the. I have a lot of emergency responders that message me and they say one of the first things that they ask, ask when they respond to a pediatric call is are you up to date on your vaccinations? And almost every single time the parent will say yeah, we had it earlier today, why do you ask? So that's definitely something that's concerning that there's no streamlined, efficient way to report adverse reactions. Now during the COVID craziness everyone said oh well, VAERS is anybody can report to vaers almost discrediting it. Even though the FDA and CDC speak to the importance of those passive surveillance systems and what most of them didn't realize, when you go to submit a report onto these passive surveillance systems, you could be fined or put into prison for putting in a faulty Report.
- [37:27]
Alexandra Clark
And so nobody is going to want to take that risk.
- [37:29]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Of course not. Yeah.
- [37:30]
Alexandra Clark
That it's going to be misconstrued as faulty or whatever.
- [37:33]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
And there's. It is so much information that you have to put on that you have to do the vaccine lot number. Number. You have to put information about your condition.
- [37:40]
Alexandra Clark
So they make it almost nearly impossible for like an average American to understand how to fill this out.
- [37:46]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
And. Right. You most likely will need some kind of collaboration with your medical provider because you need to know the name. Yeah.
- [37:52]
Alexandra Clark
They probably kicked you out of your.
- [37:53]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah.
- [37:53]
Alexandra Clark
Out of your clinic.
- [37:54]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Right, right. Just request your medical records.
- [37:57]
Alexandra Clark
People want to know where they can find proof that the current childhood vaccination schedule includes up to 70 vaccines. Vaccines.
- [38:05]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So if you look up, just go into your Google, your preferred search engine and type in CDC vaccine schedule. It will pop up. The CDC website will pop up and you can go and look. They have several different graphs and it'll say these are the vaccines that are recommended from a child that is born birth all the way up into 18 years old. And most people don't realize there's also an adult recommended schedule.
- [38:28]
Alexandra Clark
No brother.
- [38:29]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah. Okay.
- [38:30]
Alexandra Clark
Well, see, this is the problem too is I think people don't understand that it's that many because they're, they're putting multiple shots within one syringe. So you don't even know that it. You're getting a whole bunch in there. Up to how many? Six.
- [38:44]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah. They just. Gosh, they keep. Well, MRNA is going to make it more complicated, I believe, because MRNA is really easy. It's much cheaper and more cost effective to make. So I think in the next few years we're going to see more and more of the combo shots.
- [38:56]
Alexandra Clark
This is why people are confused.
- [38:57]
Taylor Duke
They're like.
- [38:58]
Alexandra Clark
Because what I was getting was a bunch of moms saying, I have no idea what you're talking about. Once again, you're somebody that has no kids who is giving wrong information. They said, I have never taken my kid to a pediatrician office where they have given them more than one vaccine or whatever in one visit. And I said, ma'am, they were given your kid multiple vaccines within the same shot.
- [39:18]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah.
- [39:18]
Alexandra Clark
Then they never write me back on dms.
- [39:20]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah. They're called combination vaccines.
- [39:21]
Alexandra Clark
Bewildered by that. And they don't even know.
- [39:24]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Right.
- [39:24]
Alexandra Clark
And you know, I'm not trying to be like, you know, making them feel bad. It's just, it's, this is really, it's just insane that people don't already know this information. It's insane that they're hearing it from me and not their doctor.
- [39:36]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Right.
- [39:37]
Alexandra Clark
But you know, they weren't informed.
- [39:38]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
There was no informed consent. That tells me that informed consent is not the norm in America.
- [39:43]
Alexandra Clark
Yep. If they just hate me because I'm the messenger and I don't happen to have kids, this is just like government information or government evidence.
- [39:50]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Right.
- [39:51]
Alexandra Clark
I don't need to have kids to look this up and say this. You know what I'm saying? So that is just. I think that's a weak response.
- [39:57]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
And I think it's beautiful that you know this before you have kids. I wish I would have researched this before I had kids. Because when you have kids, when you have a baby, every single second counts. Everything that you do counts. I just had my third baby in springtime. You don't get a chance to put on your frownies. You don't get a chance to put on your skincare routine. You don't, you get, most of the time you can't wear a bra. Like every second counts. And so when you have those children, it is so important for you to research those things. But most of the time you don't have the time to do it because there's so many things that are like just demanding your attention. So I think everyone should research before. And I have people that message me of when should I find a pediatrician. Now, before you have kids, find your medical provider. It doesn't have to be a pediatrician. You can go with a family doctor. You can go with anyone you want to. It does depend on your state. So there are some nuances there. But find them before you get pregnant.
- [40:56]
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- [43:13]
Alexandra Clark
How does the FDA handle conflicts of interest for people voting on the CDC schedule?
- [43:21]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
This was bonkers to me because I was a military active duty member, we were constantly hounded about potential conflict of interest. I was a budget officer so I was always hounded on okay, what stocks do you have? Do you have any ties to potential contractors that would be petitioning the government? So it was ingrained in me about potential conflict of interest. So when I researched this, this just blew my mind. The CDC and FDA have loopholes where people can be on committees to allow products to be added to the CDC schedule if their position outweighs the risk for a potential conflict of interest. Now unfortunately, these products, in order to gain that expertise, most likely you have to have some experience in a pharmaceutical company. So I would venture to guess that most of the people that are adding these products onto the CDC schedule will have some ties in a pharmaceutical industry, just because it's natural for them to be able to be at the expertise levels that they are, they have to have some kind of ties. So the CDC and FDA says if it's more important for you to be on this panel, for you to vote in this product, even though you have a financial conflict of interest, we will waive that for you.
- [44:37]
Alexandra Clark
Are there risks to stopping vaccinating mid series?
- [44:41]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I get this question a lot and it's a very valid question. I think it's born out of antibiotics. We're always told when you take antibiotics you have to take the full amount of antibiotics or it won't be effective. That's not the case with vaccines. So if you have a six dose series and you're halfway through, you've done three doses, your child has developed a contraindication or you just don't want to accept those products anymore, you can stop those products. You do not have to complete the series. Now the pediatrician or medical provider will argue that your immunity won't last as long. But then I would point you to the limitation of effectiveness section that says not everybody vaccinated will be protected.
- [45:19]
Alexandra Clark
Can't we owe the decline of disease to the fact that people started vaccinating their children?
- [45:25]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
This was really tricky when I first started researching because I remember it was circulating on Facebook and it's normally like my grandparents generation, they circle, circle this picture around of like a child with polio and how grateful they are for vaccines because now people aren't having to deal with polio anymore. Now unfortunately that tells me what now that I've researched, they haven't really researched polio and the history of polio. And I actually include that in the book because I think it's really important to understand when polio vaccine came to market, polio was already declining. And this is, this is according to the cdc. Now unfortunately, according to the CDC and the National History Museum Museum, when the first polio vaccine came to market, there were people dying from it because it's called the Qatar incident. There was a laboratory that wasn't properly filtering out the virus. So when people were getting injected with the polio vaccine, it was actually causing polio in the vaccinated arm, whereas polio traditionally started in the legs. So they were realizing that the polio was actually, the polio vaccine was actually causing polio. Another example, the World Health Organization Station, they've stated that the inactivated measles vaccine, when it came onto the market was causing an aggressive atypical measles infection for vaccinated children, so it was actually causing more harm. So we'll go back to the polio example. So instead of polio decreasing the disease, wiping out polio, it actually had there were more cases of vaccine derived politic polio than there were wild.
- [47:02]
Alexandra Clark
Is there a lower risk associated with a delayed schedule?
- [47:06]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yes and no. Yes in the sense of if you have one of those combo vaccines, there could be an increased risk. If you're putting six vaccines in your arm at the same time with the preservatives, the adjuvants, everything else, you could argue that would be more dangerous and potential risk than if you were to receive each of those vaccines in an individual injection. However, normally when we talk about a delayed schedule, that's when you spread out how many vaccines that you get in each pediatrician's appointment. So the biggest complaint people say about that is that they have to go to the pediatrician all the time because they have to constantly be giving vaccines to their kids. Now, the benefit of a delayed schedule is you can identify which product caused the adverse reaction. However, it doesn't stop the reaction from happening. You just know what caused it. So a great example is if you were to give new food to a baby. So say you were giving, my daughter just started solids. So if we gave her a food, we would wait a few days, see if she had an anaphylactic reaction or rash or anything like that, and then we would know, okay, she's good with that food, and then we would introduce a new one. Whereas if you gave her five foods at once and she had a reaction, we wouldn't know what food caused her to have that reaction. But she still has the reaction.
- [48:25]
Alexandra Clark
What should moms know about consumer guilt and regretting medical decisions that they have made in the past further their kids?
- [48:33]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Well, those are two different things. And I really want to. Those are great questions and I think that's really important to hit on, especially if anyone's listening right now and they feel like they, they made the wrong decisions for their kids. We make the decisions off the information that's provided to us. When you go to a pediatrician's office, you are hiring them for their expertise and for their advice and the education that they have. When that is not provided to you, Please, please don't put that guilt on yourself. I know that it's really easy to do that, but you will spiral into bitterness and it'll become so overwhelming that you'll just throw your hands up and say, well, I already messed up. They're already injured, like, what's the point? So I think it's really important to understand that if you do have some kind of a guilt, that we just. We know better and we do better and just to go forward making the best decision for your child. And that's why I say informed consent is so important, because I'm not against anyone accepting, delaying, or declining a product. I just want you to be informed so that when you do make that decision, you don't have that guilt. You don't feel like you were duped or betrayed. Now, if there is a reaction, there might be a little bit of guilt because you knew that upfront that there could be a reaction. And then if your child had a reaction, then there's going to be guilt there. And that's just. That just comes with being responsible and having authority over your body. Body. That's. That's natural. That's going to happen no matter what product you're accepting. So consumer guilt is whenever you go to a service provider or you receive a product and you feel guilty about asking questions or going outside the regular experience. So if you were to go get your hair done and the person does a horrible job, they like, make your bangs look horrible, or they do the wrong color of your hair or something, and then you say, okay, thank you, and then you tip them. That's consumer guilt. That. That's rooted in the desire not to offend someone or inconvenience someone. And that happens all of the time with women? Yes. I have one friend. She is amazing. She is so intelligent. She's a lawyer. She knows everything about anything. She is fantastic, beautiful, gorgeous. Like just very, very powerful person. When she walked into a pediatrician's office, she had done all this research. She decided she wanted to delay or decline some products. When she walked into a pediatrician's office, she told me she could not verbalize anything that she had researched. She started fumbling over her words. She just felt like she was being rushed. She felt that she was being an inconvenience. And that is a very real atmosphere that new parents or moms go into whenever they go into a pediatrician's office. So that's a very. And that's why I put it into the book. It's so important for you to know that upfront. So then when you go into an office, you're already aware of it and you're not blindsided.
- [51:26]
Alexandra Clark
If somebody claims that their doctor won't let them decline or end a certain medication, what should they tell them?
- [51:35]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
No, thank you. Period. You are responsible for your body. For every product you accept, delay or decline, you are responsible for whatever adverse reaction that could happen financially and anything that happens to your body, you're responsible for those complications.
- [51:53]
Alexandra Clark
But let's say you say, no, thank you and the doctor says, I don't accept that you have to do this.
- [51:59]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So that's called medical coercion. Coercion. If the doctor is telling you that you do not have the ability to accept, delay or decline a product that is not informed consent and try to safely remove yourself from from that situation. If you sense that a medical provider is becoming emotional about your personal medical decision, that is not informed consent. And there is zero tolerance of that in a provide patient relationship.
- [52:20]
Alexandra Clark
Tell me about the mom paralyzed with fear. She's scared to not have her child take something and then get sick, but she's also scared of having them take something and then have side effects associated with taking something.
- [52:31]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
That's such a valid fear. And I've been there. I totally understand that. There is an exercise that I have in my book and on my training course on my website and it's called Root of Fear and what it is, it's writing down all of your fears. Do you fear that your pediatrician is going to be mad at you? Do you fear that your child will be judged for accepting or delaying or declining a product? Do you fear the disease that your child may potentially get? Write down all of those fears so then you can categorize this. Is this fear of a person? Is this fear of judgment? Or is this fear of a disease? Or is this fear of my child not being healthy? Because those are two very different things. If you're fearing somebody judging you or you're fearing upsetting your medical professional provider, that's going to be different than if you're fearing your child ever getting sick. There's two different answers for that and hopefully my book has been designed to answer all of those fears. So when I talk about Are you fearful that your child is going to get measles? That's a valid fear, especially with outbreaks in the United States happening. Unfortunately though, because of what we know about shedding and what we know about adverse reactions, reactions listed on the adverse or listed on the manufacturer insert, atypical measles is listed as a potential adverse reaction on the mmr. So you can still get measles if you accept mmr. So that's important. That's important for you to research until you know. Because if you're incredibly scared that your child's going to get measles. There's still potential that you will get measles if you accept that product.
- [54:05]
Alexandra Clark
My favorite quote in your book was no is a full sentence. Can you elaborate on that?
- [54:12]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
If you do not want to go into depth on why you don't want to accept, delay or decline a medical product, you don't have to elaborate that your service provider is providing you a service and it's a hired service. You do not have to explain if you do not want to or you don't feel comfortable explaining it to your provider why you decided that decision. Now, I will say as a cat caveat, there are certain nuances with open CPS cases or custody battles. So if you are in that situation, my advice is to seek professional legal help. It does depend on your state. Based on the definition of medical neglect in your state. You do need to be aware of that. Not that it is medical neglect. You just need to understand how the legislation is set up in your state. You just do need to be aware of that. But if you are operating within your right, especially if there are exemptions in your state, you do not have to. It's not your job to educate the medical provider about inserts.
- [55:12]
Alexandra Clark
How can somebody find a provider who believes in informed consent?
- [55:18]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
I have a ton of tips in the book. The first is to just research, ask people. Ask like minded people either in your local community or on your natural minded social media groups. There are some underground directories out there and at actually something that I really want to work on and I, I'm getting ready to rebrand and refresh the website and that's one of the things that I want to put on there. I want to have a directory of pro informed consent providers because it can be really hard to find. I know it took me forever to find providers in my area.
- [55:49]
Alexandra Clark
You could just do all 50 states and put a couple in there from each state.
- [55:52]
Taylor Duke
Yeah, that'd be great.
- [55:53]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So in the, in the book I talk about all the different types of healthcare as well. You don't have to have a pediatrician, you can have a family doctor, you can have a chiropractor, you can have all these other naturopathic doctors. A lot of people don't realize that they think that it's a legal mandate that they have to go to a pediatrician and that's not the case.
- [56:13]
Alexandra Clark
If you could provide one remedy to heal a sick culture physically, mentally or spiritually, what would it be?
- [56:18]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Do not gatekeep the information. If you learn about inserts and you learn how to find inserts and read inserts, share it with a friend. The more that we're able to have open and respectful conversation about informed consent, the better for everyone.
- [56:32]
Alexandra Clark
What is your Instagram and what sorts of content do you provide and tell us about your book?
- [56:37]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
So just the inserts.com is my website. Just the inserts on Instagram and X. I'm also just the alternatives. So I have my insert Instagram where I go through all the pharmaceuticals and then for the community that delays or declines, I have just the alternatives. And you can find my book on my website. And then I have a few really exciting things coming up on the website.
- [56:57]
Alexandra Clark
I actually got to meet you before this because you came to my chronic disease Senate hearing and were so sweet and you came up to me and gave me your book and I had reached out to you. I already knew you were coming on the show, but we had never met and so I was so excited to meet you at that. And like, I mean, she is the real deal, you guys. You are smart as a whip. Your book is so well researched. You are so good at breaking down complex information. For the average American mom or anybody looking for, you know, medical information on medications or procedures, it's just phenomenal what you're doing. This is true grassroots work. This is culture changing work. And I just think everyone should follow your page. I think you're fantastic. Thank you for coming on Culture.
- [57:41]
Alexandra (Just the Inserts)
Thank you so much for having me.
- [57:46]
Alexandra Clark
I love this girl so much. She is just such a delight in person online. Everything I said at the end is true. I think she is somebody who is doing major important change for young moms in America especially. And I just respect the heck out of her and I, I just adore her. So it was amazing meeting her. You should definitely be following just the inserts. We release new episodes every Monday and Thursday, 6pm Pacific, 9pm Eastern. We're on a mission to heal a sick culture physically, mentally and spiritually. You can leave a five star review for us that really helps the show. You can also make a financial donation at the link in the show notes. Notes. It's tax deductible. Everything we do is donor funded. Also we have merch tpsa merch.com with code Alex Clark for 10% off. You can find all of the information for sponsors in the episode in the show notes as well and follow me on Instagram at real Alex Clark. I'm Alex Clark and this is Culture Apothecary.