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POTS, Histamine Issues, PANDAS & MCAS: Why Everyone Feels Sick Now | Dr. Charlie Fagenholz, DC
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Glyphosate is making us look old.
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Yep. It depletes glycine, which is very critical for collagen production. Everyone's starting to have joint pain and things like that. And they're starting to get hair, skin and nail issues.
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It's actually the least problematic pesticide. What we replaced it with is actually 10 times worse.
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B
It's kind of similar what they did with vaccines when they woke up that there was mercury and thimerosal is they took it out and they put in aluminum, which was 80 times more toxic to brain tissue than mercury. It's the same old song and dance.
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Why are young women suddenly fainting when they stand up but their labs are normal? Why are kids being diagnosed with psychiatric disorders that might actually immune inflammation hitting the brain? Why do some people wake up one day allergic to everything? Red meat, sunlight, life. And what the heck is frequency medicine? And why are tens of thousands of people on a wait list to see this guy? Today, Dr. Charlie Fagenholz is back. He's a chiropractor, functional medicine expert and frequency medicine practitioner based in Franklin, Tennessee. Working with patients structurally, chemically and emotionally to uncover root causes most doctors never even look for. In this episode we go rapid fire through autoimmune disease, pots, Pandas, mcas, histamine intolerance, anxiety, fibroids, adrenal fatigue, what glyphosate depletes from the body UTIs. And why so many people are told they're fine when they feel anything. But this one is a masterclass in connecting dots. And you know that this is Dr. Charlie's whole shtick. If you listen to his podcast Red Pill youl Healthcast, watch this episode on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or culture Apothecary on Spotify. You guys absolutely love Dr. Charlie, so make sure you leave a five star review for this episode. Please welcome co host of Red Pill, your health cast and free frequency medicine practitioner Dr. Charlie Fagenholz to culture Apothecary. There are tens of thousands of people on a wait list just dying for you to be their doctor because of your specialty. With frequency medicine, what is that? What is so special about it?
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B
Most special thing about it is that it really treats the bio individual that people are. You know, there's, there's a lot of really good functional testing and things like that, but frequency medicine really is the only thing that I know of personally. And there might be other things out there, but it's the only thing that I know of that truly treats the biochemical individual as they are. Structurally, chemically, and emotionally. And in a nutshell, what frequency medicine is, is using whether it's muscle testing or different frequency devices, that measures distress signals from the nervous system. And then that is how you identify the roadblock, and then you take away the roadblocks. And that's, you know, a miracle. Is nothing more than the right thing done at the right time on the right person. And frequency medicine hits that for a lot of people.
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A
So give an example. Like, someone walks into your office as I'm experiencing this issue, and frequency medicine helped it.
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B
That's a loaded question. So much I. Let me just talk about from. From my patient population. What I see is someone who comes in. They're like, look, I've been everywhere. I've been to Mayo, I've been to Cleveland. I've been to functional med docs. I've been all over, and I still have such and such, whether it's an autoimmune thing, whether it's a pain, whether it's just don't feel good. Like, you know, my labs are good now, but I still don't feel like myself. And then I'll go through and use muscle testing and have a conversation with their nervous system of what roadblocks have been missed. The goal and the beauty of frequency medicine is every patient's like a new book. And you're opening their first page, you're just saying, hey, I know that healing is layered. Show me the first layers and communicate with me what we have to do first, second, third. And a lot of times, it comes down to the order of what you have to do with somebody. So for instance, someone comes in, they're like, hey, I have crazy anxiety. I don't feel like myself. I can't sleep. And you would think, okay, well, let's think, brain. Let's think. Whatever functional medicine would say. But I've seen it be a parasite in the small intestine and the parasite, which changes the whole physiology of the system and is affecting the gut, which is then affecting the brain. And if I didn't use frequency testing, I would have never started there. I would have kind of started what is. I always say, like, it doesn't matter what I. I think. I know. It matters what your body tells me.
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A
Explain what, like, a test looks like in frequency medicine. How would you use that to find a parasite?
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B
Personally, I use muscle testing. So I have little vials. We call them vials. They look like little. I always say they're like perfume testers. They're a tiny little glass. Little bottle or sometimes plastic, and they have water in them that have homeopathically charged frequencies. Everything vibrates at a certain frequency. Your hair, skin, nails, infections, foods, emotions, they all vibrate at different frequencies. And if you can put those on water, which holds frequency, and you can put it up to the body, the nervous system recognizes it. And I use muscle testing. So you either, you know, test strong or you test weak to a stressor. And if you test weak to me, that's your body's not adapting to that stressor. Let's go after that and see what happens.
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A
Some people are real freaked out by muscle testing. So what's your response to those people who think there's, you know, something strange about it?
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I say if you look at it from a neurological standpoint, because it really is a functional tool of neurology. And if you look at it just as that of what can the body adapt to and what can't it adapt to? That's it. Like, that's, that's really it. And the thing I will say is just because someone muscle tests doesn't mean they're going to be the best doctor in the world for you. Similar to you can teach a monkey to play piano, but they're really not going to be Mozart, Beethoven. It's kind of the analogy is it's. It's like a stethoscope, right? The doctor has to use a stethoscope to listen to your heart, but it's the doctor that interprets it, not so much a better stethoscope. And that's what muscle testing is just a medicinal tool. And depending on who's using it, really gets you, you know, the journey that you're looking for and the results you need.
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Why is frequency medicine so ideal for veterans?
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B
Because veterans with PTSD are so multifactorial. There's so much going on, from inflammatory levels to emotional stress. And, and it can really, you know, be a tough situation. It's not an easy situation for PTSD veterans. But at the same time, when you have a tool like that to communicate with the nervous system, it. And you can use that to find what stressors are imbalancing the nervous system, you can really help a lot of people, especially veterans.
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A
Is this something that you think could be implemented in a lot more doctors offices to help veterans?
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Everybody, every. In my opinion, when, when I've spoke, you know, all over, I always say, if there was one tool I think every doctor should be able to access, it's muscle testing.
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A
And is that taught in, in medical school?
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B
No, it's all seminar based on weekends.
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A
Okay. So you have to do extra stuff to. To learn.
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B
I mean, when I first discovered I jumped all in my first treatment, I was like, that is the most incredible experience that I've had. I need to learn more about this. And when I started going to these seminars as a student and there was doctors from all over the country telling us of like, the types of patients they see and what results they're getting, I'm like, how. How do people not know more about this? The last three years of chiropractic school, I was at a seminar almost every weekend. It's like over a thousand hours of seminars. My GPA dropped like a point and a half. I didn't pay attention in school because I knew this is what people needed and what I wanted to give to the world.
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A
You're one of my favorite people to have on just because, like, I can ask you the most random medical questions. And we cover so much ground when we do that.
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B
I've seen so many patients over the last 12 years that it's given me a lot of those types of information of, of these like, rapid fire Q&As that we like to do. Because I've learned so much from just muscle testing people. And like, you know, you can read about something or you can experience it clinically. And it's taught me so much in a very short period of time.
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A
It's true to your format on social media and also on your show red pill, your HealthCast is. You guys are doing that a lot, like random Q and A's from people. And you're doing those live Q A sessions with your membership.
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B
Yes.
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Program, Right?
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Yeah.
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And what is that?
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B
So my membership is called in the Trenches. When I started my practice in Nashville, it quickly, you know, I started doing social media at the same time because I saw the reach it can have. And I was very much like, there's so many influencers on Instagram. There's functional med people. And I would get patients come in and be like, hey, I, you know, I bought all these products, I did all this, and this is what helped this person. And let's see what it does for me. And I would muscle test and I'd be like, I'm just not getting. That's gonna benefit you. And so I wanted to go to Instagram and start talking about frequency medicine on how people like me exist and that if you find someone who's really congruent with you, they can give you the best health and wellness for your Family. That was my original thing. And then people just really like to ask me questions and found it really fascinating about, like, my take on things.
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A
And it's so different than any other doctor ever.
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B
It's so different. Not that it's better, but it's just. It's just a different unique flavor, so to speak. And some people like that flavor and some people don't like that flavor. I started off going to Nashville, right? And I started having a bunch of people on my wait list. And originally it got to 30,000 people. And I wanted to create a membership, so. Because people were waiting so long for them to get access to my knowledge. And so what I would want them to do is be a member, view that. And then when I would see them, when I would find root causes on them, they would already kind of have an idea of, oh, this is kind of what that video showed. Anyways, I realized that I couldn't see that many people. So I'm like, I'll just open it up to the public. And then people started joining. We created a private Facebook group. I did weekly Root Cause health videos. And I still do a weekly hour Q and A on Zoom with members every week.
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A
And you cover like every single topic you could think of? Random.
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Yeah. People were voting on what they wanted to hear about. And then every other week I would do about an hour long video of what society tells you it is, what I find it is. And what I find helps most people.
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A
So it could be something on the gallbladder, it could be ear infections, UTIs, like whatever. You have a video on it?
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B
Yep. And then it's in a digital library, so you can. It's all transcribed. So you can type in like whatever gluten. You can type in lime. And then every video I talk about it in, it comes right to the surface. You can click and go right to the, like down to the second that I talk about it. So it's really. You can search my knowledge like. Like that in your pocket.
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Yeah. It's phenomenal. And I know that tons of conservatives are members.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
How can somebody manage their autoimmune condition without needing medication?
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B
So one of the things I would say about autoimmune that you have to understand is that you have to be the spider of your web. And what I mean by that is there's so many different causes and factors in autoimmune. Kind of like a spider that has its legs on all the strands of its web. And autoimmune can kind of be like a wonky Web and we have to pull on certain strings in order to balance it out. Kind of like in bowling, you want to bullish strike to get the most impact. Same thing with autoimmune. Autoimmune is not super easy to treat. Like, I'm not going to say that like, hey, you know, I have a hundred percent success rate with all autoimmune. I have a really good success rate because of the thought process. It's non linear layered healing which means that it's not going to go, you know, you're going to have mountains and, and valleys and peaks. You can have really good days and then one day where you're like, man, I don't feel as good as I did yesterday. But if you take it layer by layer, you'll go towards the finish line. And what I say with, with autoimmune is it's like a GPS device as well. It's like you have this destination that you want to get to where you're in remission, you feel good. There's different avenues to get there and there's different tools that can get you there. And it's finding, this goes back to frequency medicine. It's finding the right tools to get you to that destination fastest. You have to understand what autoimmune also is. Is, is an immune system that's protecting you. And most people think that, you know, they're told nothing can be done. It's genetic, your body's attacking itself. And if you just step back and be like, all right, well if it's genetic, why is it on the rise? Like genes don't change that fast. So it has to be something external that's affecting our methylation. Right. Our epigenetics. I think the statistics these days are like, if you have a parent with autoimmune, you have a 15 to 30% chance of also having that. I mean that's not that high. If you're talking betting numbers like at the highest 30%, that means there's a 70% chance that you're not going to have an autoimmune, which is a pretty good shot if you're going to bet on it. You know what I mean? Yeah.
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So it almost speaks to their similarities in your environment because chances are you're living the same way as your family.
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For sure. For sure. And, and just like, I mean we have so much autoimmune in America. We're over sanitized, we're over vaccinated, we're stress, we're fast living, we have, you know, our Food supply is improving, but we have, you know, a bad food supply. We're oversprayed with pesticides. That's the two things I would say that shows, like in charts of when autoimmune was really exploding in the 90s. Like, the other two things that exploded in the 90s were vaccines and glyphosate. And so you have two toxins that were getting over, injected, oversprayed, and that's the recipe for disaster. Like, that's going to change the way your genes express themselves and it's going to give you that 30% chance of inheriting if you have parents that have it. Another thing with autoimmune is people don't even know they're walking around with it, which is so crazy because there's, there's three stages. This is super important is stage one is silent autoimmunity, which means that you have antibodies on blood work, but you have no symptoms. And so in this country, you know, people do routine blood work, they're not getting scanned for antibodies, they're just not, you know, so the, the, I think the average is 20 years to be diagnosed with an autoimmune before you're like, finally diagnosed.
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Yeah, I mean, that's my story, basically.
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Yeah. Hashimoto's right. Yeah. When were you diagnosed?
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In January of 2024.
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How old are you?
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I'm 33 today.
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B
Today's birthday.
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A
Today's my birthday.
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And you had me on your podcast. Your birthday?
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Yeah. Very special.
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Amazing. Well, happy birthday. Thank you. Okay, so we're talking two years ago. So you were 31.
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Yep.
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Okay, so I would imagine since you were a teenager, you had antibodies on your blood work that no one checked.
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Oh, I didn't get blood work done.
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Right.
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Yeah.
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So you're walking around with silent autoimmunity, and then stage two is reactivity, which is antibodies are still elevated and you have symptoms. And that's where some people start knowing, like, all right, something's off. And then they start going to a general practitioner, then they go to a specialist, and they kind of get thrown into that, that rabbit hole. Then you have stage three, which is the diagnosis of disease, which is tissue destruction. And so that's when most people are like, I have an issue right now and I really need to get checked out. And that's, that's full blown autoimmune. And I used to not want to call it a disease because I really think it's just a response. But when I started saying that, here's what I found is that patients were like, well, if it's just a response or we turned it off, I can go back to my old lifestyle. And I started saying, no, it's a disease so that you. So they can train their brain of, I need to start living a healthy lifestyle. And that's my lifestyle forever. It's not just like, I get out of it now I can go back to what I enjoy because my antibodies are down and things like that. So I started playing the word game a little bit. But that, that's stage one, two and three autoimmune is, is the stages of it. And most people, or a lot of people are walking around in stage one silent autoimmunity. And I think it's really important to get tested for antibodies for sure. Obviously, thyroid Hashimoto's being the most common. You nominated me to be on a board for rfk? Yeah, I haven't heard back.
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Oh, we need that.
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The girl who I talk to is always super kind and she's like, we're doing our due diligence. We got to do background checks and all this type of stuff. It's been like eight months. But again, like, these types of blood work need to be accessible and covered by insurance and available to the population. You know, when they're, when we're teenagers, we should be getting this type of blood work, in my opinion.
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How do you avoid the medication part?
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First you have to understand what's going on. Then you have to use frequency medicine treatment devices, in my experience, and two that I really love are laser and frequency specific microcurrent. And that's. I've been using a lot of that in the last couple years.
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Like, what in the world is that? What's a laser do?
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B
So laser is right. Focused beams with red infrared light as well. And when it shines, it hits your mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of your cells. And depending on what frequencies hit it, allow your body to vibrate at certain frequencies. So like there's laser settings for autoimmune. There's laser settings for infection, for emotions, for brainwaves, for pain.
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So it's like an elevated red light therapy.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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More targeted.
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More targeted, yeah.
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Okay.
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And frequency specific microcurrent is low level electrical currents. That or very low, like, like 100amps, which is super low. It's not very strong with different frequencies that basically put an electrical charge through your cells and your tissues vibrate at whatever frequency you're instilling. So I've been so fascinated with frequency specific microcurrent because of the results that I've seen. But like every tissue of the body vibrates at a different frequency in hertz. Like the immune system vibrates at 116 hertz, inflammation vibrates at 40 hertz. So if you do this, let's talk autoimmune. You have an inflamed immune system, right? So if you do 40 Hz on channel one and 116 Hz on channel two, you're targeting inflammation of the immune system. So you're specifically targeting. And you can go after structural things like ligaments and, and disc issues, low back pain. You can get into infections like mold and Lyme and, and there's hundreds, there's thousands of these frequencies and charts from all different countries. That's like the frequency medicine aspect that I'm really have dove into. And then I use muscle testing as like the diagnostic of okay, what are we working on? And then I'll find the herbs and things like that. And then I also want to do the machines because I'm noticing that it is a toxic society and it's taking more than just supplements to get people well. And it's so much faster when you have access to these machines that are able to really turn the body on.
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A
Now, do you like peptides at all for autoimmune?
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B
I've seen really good results with peptides specifically in. In my personal experience, like surgery healing. Like I had my best friend tore his Achilles and he started. That was the first exposure I had to peptides was he had gotten them and I was muscle testing them on him and they tested great. And his rehab was like, probably the fastest I've ever seen for an Achilles. So I'm like, all right, that grabs my attention. I've seen it drop thyroid antibodies, a lot of people like the B PC157 for gut health and stuff. I haven't seen miracle after miracle after miracle, but I think it's a good adjunct to foundational health and root cause healing. I don't want it to be like the stem cells where people are just going to try to out peptide their foundational health and be like, hey, I can eat gluten and I can go and drink alcohol because I'm just going to inject myself with this peptide. It's going to override, you know, all that inflammatory response. I don't want it to get to that point. But I think it's really good in certain situations if someone's like, look, I've tried everything. I'd rather do this than medication. I'm 100 for it.
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This is a. A lose lose situation because if I answer it one way, there's the other camp of people who are going to attack it, and if I answer a different way, then I'm going get attacked. From the one camp, there's people who would say, well, it's not gluten. It's the pesticide sprayed on gluten. I'm like, okay, well, but what about my patients who go to Italy and they actually still react, even though people say when you go to Italy, you don't react to the gluten? I'm like, well, I don't know what clients and patients you're seeing, but that doesn't work for mine because I have patients who just have a trace of gluten without glyphosate sprayed on it, and they still react. I think it's always going to be something. I hate to be a Debbie Downer
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about it because my audience is so radicalized on milling your own flour.
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B
Oh, yeah.
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A
So have you heard that people that do that at least that they don't have issues when they're milling wheat berries, organic wheat berries, I think it's better.
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B
But I can only speak to my patient population. And so now we're talking to someone. Have autoimmune? Do they not have autoimmune? Like, there's definitely questions that have to be asked. But similar to like dairy as well. Like, there's really good a two, you know, grass fed dairy. But if someone's sensitive to dairy, it's still gonna elicit a response. Like, I think like, you know, milling and stuff that you're talking about is better for sure. But I don't know if it is like a hall pass for everybody.
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A
Why are so many young women being diagnosed with pots?
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B
I would say because there's a hormone component and it usually happens after an infection. I had a patient says probably 10 years ago, it took her two minutes to go from seated to standing, and she was shaking uncontrollably and she would faint most times. And I'm like, man, that's, that's intense.
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A
Did Covid trigger a lot of people's pots?
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I think so, yeah. I think the spike protein and what Covid does to the mitochondria. Because before COVID I would find that it was usually viral and mold related from a chemical standpoint. Because I have seen some people with like concussions that get it like physical trauma, hit their head type thing. Another there's a clinical pearl is you can also get a concussion by falling on your tailbone because of the dura attachment of the spinal cord that runs from the sacrum to the occiput where your brain stem is. Communicate completely. And so I've seen people fall on their butt and get a concussion.
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A
I've never heard that. That seems like a really important thing for parents to know.
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B
Super, super. That's why I'm so adamant about, like, have your children adjusted by a chiropractor. If you can find techniques like quantum neurology, One of the frequency med techniques I do really good for neurological rehabilitation. But that's one thing that, you know, a lot of people are like, I never hit my head, but they were like a gymnast that's always falling on their butt kind of thing.
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A
Is POTS more autoimmune or is it neurological?
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I think it's neurological and hormonal, but it, it kind of feels autoimmune. Ish. Like a lot of the same triggers, a lot of very delicate, like, spider of your web type thing.
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A
What are the symptoms?
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Like faintness, lightheadedness. And then with POTS is the tachycardia. The racing heart is really like the main thing of it, right? Postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. Postural orthostatic means that when you get up, you're, you're dizzy, which I would argue half of people probably feel that way because everyone's adrenal glands have just been shot. It's. It's dysautonomia. You ask if. If it's like autoimmune, and it very much is like autoimmune, even though if it's. It's not technically autoimmune, but they have the same triggers. And so what'll happen is they'll get up and their heart will like anxiety like crazy. Their heart starts racing, they're shaking uncontrollably. If they don't faint, they're very close to fainting. What I had found was that a lot of times, right, there was viral issues, like Epstein Barr and a lot of mold. Like, mold is the great exacerbator, is what I'll say. It will. It will make everything worse. But you also have to balance your insides against mold. So you have to balance your gut flora. You have to get rid of the fungal overgrowth that's inside you instead of just the external mold that you're breathing in. It allows your body to fend it off more efficiently, is what I'll say it all came down to, in my opinion. In my experience, what is producing the most amount of histamine in the body, and that histamine is constantly turning on your stress hormones to counteract the histamine, and that's your adrenal glands. And so as soon as the system is overwhelmed to, like, system failure, that's when. Now it's like. It's pots. It's dysautonomia. The whole nervous system can't regulate. Parasympathetic and sympathetic. You're so sympathetic, dominant, and it just fluctuates so much that you're nervous. You literally can't function.
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So it's like an extreme histamine issue.
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One of the biggest root causes is whatever is producing that histamine issue in you.
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A
So what could that be? Leftovers?
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B
Could be. If you don't eat like. Like fresh food, as you store it, histamine increases, right? But parasites increase histamine. I like that you brought that up. Because this now is similar to autoimmune, where we have a immune system balance. So you have Th1 and Th2. Imagine that's a teeter totter of your immune system. Th1 fights off viruses, bacteria, fungus, and little parasites. Th2 fights off parasites like worms and things like that. And it's that balance that helps balance out our microbiome. And so society lives mostly in a th2 dominant state. What I mean by that is the imbalance, like a Teeter totter shifts towards TH2, which is where mast cells live, which is what releases your histamine. So if we are in a TH2 dominant state, our mast cells are more sensitized to release histamine easier. Now you just got to figure out what are the triggers that are, are affecting you. That's pushing that Th2. And the most common are parasites, mold, EMF, pesticides, mental stress, caffeine, and lack of sleep. Those are the main ones. There's maybe some other ones, but those are like the, um. I'm, I'm betting that it's going to be one or more of those, essentially.
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Can pots go away or is it lifelong?
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I've seen both. Depends on the person. This goes back to like the biochemical individual thing, because medicine treats a bell curve. Frequency medicine really treats you as the individual you are. And so someone might have a ton of emotional trauma, a ton of mold and Lyme throughout the system, whereas someone else might just have a really poor diet and then maybe like mold and it's a lot easier to get change the diet, balance the adrenals with adaptogens and stuff like that and, and microcurrent and laser. Whereas someone with a lot of emotional trauma, Lyme flooding their system is a much harder hill to climb to get them to remission and maybe not have POTS anymore. So it's, it's tough to say.
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A
And does pots show up in blood work? Like, could your labs look normal even though you're having trouble standing up?
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B
I love blood work, but every time I've tried to really dive deep in blood work and like, really understand, like beyond just a CBC and a cmp, I always fall back on. That's a snapshot. I need to muscle test and find out what is the roadblocks because blood work will take 40% dysfunction and muscle testing will take 3 to 5% dysfunction.
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A
So actually the, with the frequency medicine and muscle testing, you can find out
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B
things earlier way faster.
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A
Okay.
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B
Way. And don't get me wrong, there's people who are going to watch this and be like, hey, I'm, I'm proficient reading blood work, and I can see some patterns that, you know, would tell me maybe this is going towards that, like there's some really good blood work people. I'm not going to take it away that like, I think blood work is very valuable. I think it's a snapshot in a picture of a piece of the puzzle. But I, in my experience, in my opinion too, is that when people are using frequency medicine, however they're using it. Whether it's scans, whether it's muscle testing, they're able to put together a protocol much more efficiently and take the guesswork out of, like, blood work shows you a ton of information. Frequency medicine shows you, all right, what's the priority of a ton of information?
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A
What is pandas and signs that your child could have it?
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B
Pandas is when strep basically, you know, hits the nervous system and the basal ganglia of the brain, which then turns into, like, massive ocd. It's essentially like an autoimmune reaction between strep bacteria and brain tissue.
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A
So it's immune inflammation affecting the brain.
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B
Yep. Caused by strep.
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A
What is the biggest mistake that doctors make when it comes to pandas and kids?
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B
The biggest mistake, I would say, is they. They don't diagnose it fast enough. And antibiotics are not the end all, be all.
- [30:54]
A
So basically, a conventional doctor is just throwing antibiotics at this.
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B
And sometimes they can help because, you know, strep is a bacteria. Antibiotics are antibacterial. Right. So, like, different than if you have a virus and mold and they're throwing antibiotics at you and it's just making your issue worse. At least there's, like, a fighting chance with antibiotics against strep. Similar to, like, very acute Lyme. Like, sometimes antibiotics are, like, can just knock it out right there and then. Like, I don't want to trash antibiotics because I know there's a time and place. I've seen a time and place, but similar to, like, like, peptides. Like, I don't want to just, like, just throw it at it. I'd rather use that strategically when needed more than just relying on them.
- [31:34]
A
Sometimes severe behavioral issues are actually.
- [31:37]
B
Pandas can very well be.
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A
What are some of the behaviors?
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OCD is the biggest. I had a patient where he would have to walk into the kitchen, and he would have to open every cabinet and then shut them all in a certain order before he would even do anything else in the kitchen. It's like, really odd behaviors like that that they can't control when it's something like that. I'm starting to think, okay, there's got to be some type of neurological inflammation. Is it pandas? Is it emotional trauma? You know, because OCD can have multiple things, but if it's really intense, I'm starting to think pandas.
- [32:08]
A
Could OCD in an adult actually be pandas?
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B
Yes.
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A
And then it could be totally reversible for sure. I guess I just always thought OCD was, like, some sort of brain disorder that you're just born with and you can't do anything about. I've never talked about OCD on the show.
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OCD has multiple. It doesn't always have to be Pandas, but it very well could be. This is. This goes back to let's muscle test strep vials over the brain area and see if you react to them. And if you weaken to them, chances are your brain's not. Not adapting properly to strep that's affecting you. And in my head, I'm like, all right, well, that's a Pandas case. Whereas I can also test your genetic methylation, which is how you turn on and off your genes and different enzymes in your body. And see, look, do you have mthfr? How's your vitamin D receptors? How's your com T gene? And off of that, see how you process through neurotransmitters?
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A
And.
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B
And that could also be causing, like, an OCD thing, too. OCD has also. One of the biggest things is, like, low lithium in the body, and lithium's pretty much depleted from our soils. So, like, lithium orotate is a supplement that I like for ocd. I've seen a lot of, again, histamine with ocd. So what are the other triggers? Is it mold? You know, mold can cause ocd. Is it parasites? Is it a food allergy issue that you're eating and creating this constant histamine reaction? Now your adrenals are starting to. To have to counteract that. And that's. That is more like in pots, because it's like if, you know, kids are eating all these toxins, and all of a sudden they get an infection, and then, boom, it's like. That's like the cherry on top. And now you have pots, whereas you had it brewing this whole time, but you didn't have someone to frequency test you to say, hey, here's your food allergies and sensitivities. Let's get off of this. And we could have prevented POTS from happening.
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A
You know how some people have, like, a hair texture change out of nowhere? Like, they have really curly hair, and then all of a sudden it's straight, or vice versa. When hair texture changes randomly, what system is shifting?
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Probably multiple systems. My first would be a kidney bladder, because the. The bladder meridian in Chinese medicine runs up the back and over into the scalp. And so a lot of times you've heard of, like, chi, like qi, that flows through the meridians of Chinese medicine. Well, they say that chi, your blood follows chi and vice versa. Where your blood Flows, the qi goes. And where the chi goes, the blood goes. And what'll happen is if the kidneys are affected by glyphosate's a big one, infections like bacteria, you know, mold, stuff like that. If it's being affected, then what will happen is actually the hair follicles will loosen and a lot of people start losing hair. But also it can also change the texture of your hair as well. In Chinese medicine, the kidneys open up into the sea of marrow, which is the brain, and the hair is above the brain. So they would treat traditional Chinese medicine, people would treat kidneys for hair stuff. And so that's the, the route that I take with, with changes in, in hair textures and stuff like that. And kidneys are a big system in that.
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A
What does it mean if your skin stays bone dry no matter how much water you drink?
- [35:11]
B
Could be not enough minerals and electrolytes, but also could be gallbladder because the gallbladder is how you digest your fats and like essential fatty acids and stuff like that. Vitamin A, vitamin E are fat soluble. And so if your gallbladder is your bile sludgy and not digesting those fats properly, you're not absorbing them and then you have dry skin or maybe you're
- [35:32]
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not eating enough fat for sure. That could be a tip.
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B
Yeah. And that, that all comes down to like a good history taking of what's your diet like? You know, do you have any tenderness in the gallbladder area or. For me, I really like Chinese medicine. So when someone's like, hey, I have pain in this joint, I'm always thinking of what meridians cross that joint because it could be coming from an organ.
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A
Are warts a sign of weak immunity?
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B
Viruses? Yep.
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A
How do you treat warts? Don't you see warts all the time in your kid patients?
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B
Yeah. So if they're on the bottoms of the feet, then it's usually an electrolyte imbalance because the kidney meridian starts there and they're dehydrated. So I'll usually put them on water and electrolytes. If it's everywhere else over the body, then viral. And I like, I use supreme nutrition herbs. So woad supreme is a very acute antiviral. And then black walnut is a tincture for parasites and other bacteria, but mostly black walnut, people know for parasites. I'll combine the two into a paste and put them over the warts. And then I'll have them take them orally as well.
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A
What does it mean if your hands and feet randomly tingle, Could Be blood
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B
flow, could be nerve, but a lot of times it can be blood flow, low blood flow.
- [36:41]
A
What causes fluid buildup and puffiness around the ankles?
- [36:45]
B
Hormone imbalance, adrenals and estrogen.
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A
How do you fix that?
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B
Gotta find out what's. Is it the chicken or the egg? So if it's adrenals, this is my longest membership video is the adrenal fatigue video. Why adrenals? We should talk adrenals because you're gonna hear people say, it's your adrenals, it's your adrenals. But really adrenals are like your. Your gener backup generators of your body. Like when it's an adrenal gland issue, it's because every. All the other systems couldn't keep up. And it asked the adrenals to kick on essentially. And so you got to find out what is your body not adapting to that caused the adrenals to be in such fight or flight and, and chronically on. Because we, we the adrenals, if you didn't have adrenal glands, you would like, basically not survive. Right. Like cortisol and stress hormone is essential for survival. It's. It's kind of demonized, similar to histamine. Histamine is. Is essential for survival as well. It's just that it's the overproduction that we live in where we. We're like, hey, it's a histamine issue. Hey, it's a cortisol issue. But it's like, well, no, it's. Your body is trying to protect you, and you're not taking the hint of what is it trying to protect you from, and you have to find that out. So for adrenals, mental stress, infections, food sensitivities, emotional trauma, like I said, and just that fast lifestyle, like no sleep and no quality food and stuff like that. Blood sugar dysregulation is huge too, and we have such a blood sugar issue in this country.
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A
I feel like if you would have been around in like the late 1800s or early 1900s, we wouldn't even have circuses because you would be like bearded lady pcos. It's like you would have figured it out so quick. Probably all these weird things, like, are actually just crazy imbalances and things that could be corrected, which is fascinating.
- [38:29]
B
Yeah, I mean, the body is. Is a closed kinematic chain. So everything affects everything. And we've become a society that really, like, uses specialists for everything.
- [38:38]
A
Well, we're just constantly told there's no answer.
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B
Correct.
- [38:41]
A
I don't know why this is happening to you here, take a pill. Like nobody wants to figure it out.
- [38:45]
B
And that kind of goes back to how you nominated me for the RFK cabinet position. I asked them, hey, what would I be doing? And, and the goal of the task force I would be on is to get functional medicine covered universally by insurances, which would be really cool.
- [39:02]
A
And the audience would be so excited, for sure.
- [39:04]
B
I mean, I'm like, I'm, I'm all on board on that. In the back of my head, I'm like, also, you know, there's scans where if you take a sample of your hair and your saliva and you put it on a machine, it runs and it says your food sensitivities, what infections you have, what emotions you experience. Like, that's like my end goal of like that should be in every pharmacy and like every place where people have access to that. But the stepping stone is getting functional medicine covered by insurances so people have access. My, my thing is so you have these great blood tests. But if medical schools aren't teaching root cause wellness, then how are medical doctors who are trained in, you know, western medicine, how are they going to respond to these functional blood works like an antibiotic is not going to cure your adrenal fatigue. You know what I mean? A steroid's not going to cure your adrenal fatigue. So it's going to take a paradigm shift from a school standpoint for med schools if that happens, because they're, they're not going to know what to do.
- [40:05]
A
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B
scenario, they might have to. But tonsils are an immune organ. You know, the part of your immune system. So what's affecting them? This is a perfect example of depends on what field you're in. So if you go to a airway specialist, then it's a breathing problem. You go to a mold person. Oh, it's mold, yeah. You go to a parasite person. Well, it's parasites affecting that. And, and so you really got a muscle test to find out, or frequency test. You got to find out, okay, what is the priority roadblock for this person in front of me? Is it that they have chronic strep bacteria and it's inflaming their tonsils? Is it that they, they're, you know, they don't get adjusted, their necks not in alignment, chiropractic, philosophy wise. And now they're mouth breathers. Is it that they have an autonomic nervous system imbalance and now that's changing also the way they're breathing and they're not using diaphragm breathing. You know, there's, there's so many factors that goes back to what I originally said of like, you know, frequency testing and muscle testing is like a stethoscope. It's only as good as the person doing it and how good of questions they can ask. And so do parents need to take the tonsils out? Usually not. But in severe cases when the child can't breathe at night, maybe, and then you can find out what the tonsils weren't adapting to and then that's still affecting their body. They just don't have tonsils anymore. It's like taking the battery out of your smoke alarm. There could still be a fire, but you're just not going to get the smoke alarm blaring at you. You're not going to get the tonsils being swollen.
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A
What does it mean if you are super itchy? Like your skin is so itchy, but there's no bites or bumps or anything
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B
like that in my experience. Histamine for sure, because histamine, you'll see that with restless leg syndrome and ibs. And a lot of times people with IBS have restless legs and vice versa because there's too much histamine that makes you like this. And then there's also bad gut bacteria that releases something called lps, lipopolysaccharide, which is speaking of autoimmune, it's some say the most immune activating substance on the planet. And so when you have bad gut bacteria and it's Secreting that in your system, it creates an immune system that's not happy, but that as well causes IBS and restless legs. And these people will get like kind of itchy skin, but there's like nothing to see. So histamine and then from methylation, it's called the sult gene, the salt gene. It's how your liver processes toxins. And a lot of times the salt gene will have an issue that then people become itchy when that's being shut down.
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A
So if somebody is experiencing restless leg, what would you tell them to take?
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B
There's a supplement I like from Vervita called Circuitonic, which also does the salt gene. And it's, it's low dose B vitamins, but it has molybdenum in there. Molybdenum is really good, has selenium in there. And those two are really good. For the salt gene.
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A
Is that okay to take when you're pregnant?
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B
Yeah. Yeah. Well, those should be in, in a multi that someone takes, some people would say they don't have to be, but they're all pregnancy safe. And that's getting into the methylation of it. You know, there's some people who will use herbs. Hatunia Supreme. Hatunya is a really good herb for mast cell stabilization. Quercetin. You know, quercetin is, is one that people really start figuring out or finding out about during COVID because they used it with zinc to get like zinc in your cells for Covid.
- [46:29]
A
How do you feel about detoxes?
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B
What kind? Just in general.
- [46:34]
A
Yeah. Are there. What are the kinds? I've never done one. I don't know anything about them.
- [46:37]
B
Yeah, I mean, some people do like liver det.
- [46:39]
A
Oh, yeah.
- [46:40]
B
You know, like a gut detox. Again, like I'm more of like, live the healthy lifestyle. Find the roadblocks to your healing. Address those with herbs and frequency medicine and things like that. What I find is people will go on a detox and whether it's weight loss or whatever they want to accomplish, and they're like, wow, I feel so good. And then they go back into being a weekend warrior, which is like, you know, they're drinking alcohol on the weekends. I always say they use caffeine to get them through the week and alcohol to keep them dumb enough to keep doing that circle. And so it just depends on, on the person if, if it's a stubborn liver issue. And they're like, I want to do a liver detox. And I've done the herbs, I've done all this great try It. But don't use detoxes as, like, this is how I get healthy. And then I don't have to pay attention to the foundational medicine after I have a really. I have, like, a charge on it. I'm. I'm realizing when I'm talking to you,
- [47:30]
A
people are just like. You're saying, like, people want to do a detox and then, like, not fix anything else for sure. Yeah.
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B
It's similar to what I don't want peptides to turn into Fair. And also why I kind of have an issue when people say, like, I like biohacking because it's great. It's great information, but, like, if you're not having the foundations of your wellness, like, you're. You're missing the boat. I think personally someone might have disagree. A lot of people disagree with me, but that's just. That's what I find and what I like.
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A
There's lots of talk about glyphosate and pesticides right now. What does exposure to these chemicals deplete the body of that people don't know about?
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B
It depletes glycine, which is very, very critical for collagen production.
- [48:09]
A
Wait a minute. The glyphosate is making us look old? See, this is how I get all of the women on my side.
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B
Yeah, that's it.
- [48:15]
A
This is why everybody in the government is confused. Like, why is Alex Clark rallying up all these bombs like she's the. The culprit? Making everyone pissed off with. Wait till I start telling him it's making you look older.
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B
That's it. That's it. Literally. Literally. It depletes your glycine, which is an amino acid that helps you produce glutathione or master antioxidant.
- [48:33]
A
Whoa.
- [48:33]
B
But then it also depletes collagen production. So now hair, skin, nails, joints, what does everyone have? Everyone's starting to have joint pain and things like that, and they're starting to get hair, skin, and nail issues. It sucks. I hate glyphosate.
- [48:46]
A
Have you had a patient that has had, like, serious chronic issues and then come to find out they've got, like, the lawn sprayers.
- [48:52]
B
Oh, yeah. Well, since I moved to Tennessee, for sure. Yeah.
- [48:55]
A
Can you talk about that? Because a lot of women in my audience or their husbands do not want to give up the lawn spray.
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B
I know, I know. And the tough part that I. I gotta. I have a story that you'll find hilarious, but let's. Let's talk live and say first it's similar. It just brought My head there. This is where my head is. Like, this is how. This is my mind. But I was practicing in California, and in California, I found a lot of EMF issues, ton of EMF issues. And then when I moved to Tennessee, I didn't find as much emf, but I found a ton of pesticide glyphosate. And there's, you know, farmers there and stuff like that. Every Parkinson's patient I've ever seen, I've always asked how long you've been a farmer without even knowing their profession. All of them have been a farmer or live next to a farm. Or a golf course.
- [49:36]
A
Or a golf course. And see. So in Arizona, here in Scottsdale, where I live, everybody's on a golf course.
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B
Yep. Anyway, so your question was, you know, like the husbands do the, the spraying because they don't want the weeds. I like weeds. I like weeds because it's, it's like the natural way of going about it. And actually weeds, some of them, like dandelion, have medicinal benefit. And so again, what'll happen is even if their neighbors could be spraying it too, it doesn't have to be them because the wind will take it. Right. And so they're inhaling this and then they start getting the whole collagen lack because glycine is being depleted from glyphosate. And then what I'll find again, this goes back to frequency medicine of like, you know, I need to take essential fatty acids for my skin, I need to take B vitamins, I need to take vitamin C. C, which vitamin C creates collagen. So for me, this is, this is how I think of. Do you want to keep doing a ton of vitamin C while glyphosate is depleting your glycine and you're replenishing with vitamin C, or do you just figure out a way of helping your body against the spraying, which then you don't need as much vitamin C. I still think vitamin C is a critical nutrient. We need it. But I want to look at the root causes first. More than just throw more functional medicine practice of, oh, your blood work is you're low in C, you need more C. But for me, I'm like, well, you're muscle testing on glyphosate vial that is, you know, harming your liver and your kidneys. And that's why you need more C on blood work, because your body's depleting UFC to help put out the fire, the glyphosate's causes.
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A
What's interesting because I'VE just been talking so much about pesticides lately and talking to different experts and toxicologists and stuff on this issue, just trying to learn more, is that glyphosate is actually. And this will really shock people. It's actually the least problematic pesticide. And that says a lot because it is so bad, and people know how bad it is, but what we replaced it with and things like Roundup and stuff is actually ten times worse.
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B
Yeah.
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A
So they're getting smart because they're like, oh, well, now the American public is awake to glyphosate, so let's not talk about glyphosate. Let's, like, get rid of that. But then we're gonna put way worse stuff in.
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B
It's kind of similar. What they do with vaccines. When they woke up that there was mercury and thimerosal is they took it out and they put in aluminum, which was 80 times more toxic to brain tissue than mercury. It's the same old song and dance. One thing I will say, because we originally started talking about autoimmune, and I say that vaccines and glyphosate are such a big cause of the increase in autoimmune. Glyphosate came to the market in 1976. From 1976 to 1990, they sprayed £100 million. Okay, that's 14 years. From 1990 to 1999, they sprayed £300 million. And that's when autoimmune started going up. And diabetes. Glyphosate is a huge cause of diabetes.
- [52:20]
A
Yeah. Okay, what's your crazy story?
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B
So I like to have these conversations with my six year old. Well, she just turned six, and she's really, really smart. And so my neighbor was spraying my old neighbor because we moved, but he was spraying his lawn. And I go on a walk with my little girl and stuff. And then there was chemtrails in the sky. And so I'm giving her the chemtrail pep talk. I'm like, all right, well, you see it in the sky. They call it geoengineering. And they're trying to control the weather, but they're spraying toxins like barium and different things in there that fall on us. And then it gives people allergies and toxicity issues and stuff. And she just turned. Like I said, she just turned six. She's very, very intelligent. And so she's like, why do they want to do that? And I said, well, in my opinion, it's because they want to keep us sick, because they make money off of sick people. And she goes, why would they want to do that? I'm like, well, unfortunately, money kind of makes the world go round. And the more profitable something is, the more value that the world sees. And then they capitalize on that. She's like, okay, okay. We go on our walk and we come back and my neighbor's still spraying. And she looks at me and she goes, is he trying to make money off of us? Just like, hilarious that she was able to, like, think three steps ahead of like, okay, spraying means we get sick, which means they make money off of us. Chemtrails is what I was talking about. But she's seen the neighbor spraying, so
- [53:48]
A
she's gonna be the next generation hosting the show. I think she's.
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B
She's gonna be something.
- [53:52]
A
How do you explain somebody eats all organic? They're very clean eaters. They're not eating any ultra processed food, but they still have. Have horrific breath or like bad body odor.
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B
Because there's other things, like if they have subclinical infections like parasites, small intestine, bacterial overgrowth, H. Pylori candida, mole or fungus and mold diet alone won't get rid of that. This is why I started Instagram, was to really, to really, like, show people that there's another way out there. And, and that's a good question because a lot of people are like, look, I eat all organic, I exercise all the time, I do all this, and I still have these issues. And it's because the analogy is like, issues are a hammer, and they throw it through your window, and your body's the window. You can take the hammer out, but you also sometimes need to rebuild the window as well. Like, I was eating so poorly. I was doing all. I wasn't exercising. Now I started exercising, started eating healthy, but I still have this issue. Well, they took the hammer out because that was what got them in there in the first place. Place. But when they were there, it caused small intestine bacterial overgrowth. It caused an imbalance in their gut floor or something along those lines. And then that created a hormone imbalance. So now you have to go and put those pieces back together. That's where I've really started going into microcurrent and laser to do things faster, more efficiently. Because I've noticed that it's just like, it can take a long time. And we're, we're so bombarded with issues in our society that it takes frequency medicine to kind of put Humpty Dumpty back together.
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A
Something I just learned that really freaked me out and spooked me are there are people that wake up one day and they just have crazy allergies to totally normal things. Like I can't eat red meat. All of a sudden I'm allergic to red meat.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And I guess it's called Mast cell activation syndrome. What is this and how do you avoid getting that?
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B
So that's my. My latest membership video was histamine Mast cell activation syndrome. And again this goes back to don't demonize histamine. Realize that it's there to protect you and find what it's protecting you from. So these people who just wake up one morning and they're sensitive to something, they've been eating like crazy or for a long time with no issues. You gotta check their gut barriers. You have to. Because the number one thing that actually gives leaky gut is histamine. And whatever causes the histamine, because histamine breaks apart the zonulin, which is the protein that keeps the tight junctions together of the gut. For instance, like it. It just could be something, an emotional trauma or a stressor that all of a sudden flips that switch of this has been underlying the whole time. And now it's like full blown mast cell activation syndrome. A lot of people also will get it after a hardcore infection like mold or Lyme. I keep preaching or talking about mold on this, but like mold's a pretty big issue.
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A
How do you heal from this?
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B
Identify the sources that are histamine promoting in your lifestyle, remove those and then also support your methylation, which a lot of like MTHFR gene, which everyone talks about, that also helps break down histamine. So you want to. It's kind of again back to the hammer through the window. Remove the hammer. But then you also have to support the body's methylation process as well. That's how you rebuild the window. So you move the hammer. Which could be mold, it could be emf, it could be diet, it could be mental emotional stress, which I think is probably the biggest of everything. Is. Is emotional stress. When people talk about germ theory versus terrain theory, like do bugs make you sick or is it your terrain of your body? I think emotional stress is the biggest. Even more than pesticides and, and mold and emf. I think it's the biggest terrain interrupter for people. Some people would argue against me. I just. That's what I find. Back to mcs. You, you have to identify and then you have to get the body breaking down the histamine properly again. That goes through gut health, liver health, mthfr, HMNT gene, which again is B vitamins and stuff like that. Vitamin C again vitamin C is antihistamine. It really is just like layered healing of finding the fine, the balance of removing versus replenishing as well.
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A
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B
Off.
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A
That's yayzebra.com code Alex for 10 off. There's a lot of women who are told you're fine, your iron levels look normal, but they still struggle getting up off the couch. How do you explain that?
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B
Are there iron levels really normal or are they functionally not normal?
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A
I think it's probably the second.
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B
Yeah. Usually it's functionally not normal. You got to look at your iron, your ferritin, all the different, like, mcv, mchc, all the different anemia patterns, burns. And anemia, again, comes down to gut flora. Do you have parasites that are stealing your iron? Do you have heavy menstrual cycles? Because that can cause anemia, and that's usually an estrogen dominance thing. Again, it's. It's back to, like, the history, like, taking of, you know, do you experience this? What's this like for you? I don't think there's just like one, like, silver bullet for. For it. Anemia can be caused by so many things.
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A
I'm seeing a lot of women that listen to this show say that they're being offered meds. Metformin for pcos. Yeah, metformin. GLP ones or birth control. They're also told, you know, you just absolutely cannot lose weight. Sorry, this is just how it is. Like, you're gonna have to just live with this. You have pcos. What are these women doing wrong? Or. And it may not be their own fault, what are they being told that's wrong?
- [62:03]
B
I mean, Metformin is type 2 diabetes. Right? Is a type 2 diabetes medication. The natural form is berberine. You know, I'd rather go the natural form more than the. The GLP1s as well, of berberine alpha lipoic acid, ECGC, which is from green tea, and sulforaphane, which is from broccoli. That combination along with butyrate, which is a short chain fatty acid, which is my favorite nutrient for your colon. Those together work on the physiological loops that those medications and GLP1 is trying to force your body to.
- [62:41]
A
Are you pro microdosing GLP ones? In certain situations, you're anti.
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B
It goes back to the foundations. I think that if you've tried everything, like, okay, I'm not going to like, you know, knock you for trying, but it still should be a last case scenario, not like the first line of defense. And that's the biggest thing. I mean, I've also seen patients who have tried GLP1 and have burning stomach pain that like, we couldn't reverse. Oh, there's obviously, you know, lawsuits for permanent blindness that have been caused by GLP1 and, and they can be, you know, the, the rebuttal is, well, what if I microdose it under you know, the supervision of blah, blah, blah. I get it. I'm just, I'm. To me, that's also like vaccines like, like Forrest Gump said, like, life's like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get. Like, I'm not taking that chance.
- [63:31]
A
I agree.
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B
I don't know what you're gonna get. You might get miraculous results with the microdose GLP1, but you also can turn it up blindly. Similar with vaccines. Like, you just don't know if that's gonna be like the straw that broke the camel's back and now you have full blown whatever.
- [63:45]
A
We're told that cradle cap in a newborn is completely normal. That's just something that happens. Is it, or is it actually a warning sign?
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B
I think it's a fungal sign for sure. I, I found it more in C section babies. Doesn't mean it's the only babies that, that get it, obviously, but because when the baby's coming down the vaginal canal, that's how they get a lot of their gut flora, through the vaginal flora. And if you do a C section, then you don't go that route. Right. So I've found it that the gut flora from the baby can be off a little more than a natural vaginal delivery. But if mom has candida or fungus and things like that, then that flora can also go to the baby as well. So it's usually a fungal issue.
- [64:31]
A
So what do you do for that?
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B
You can do apple cider vinegar on the actual scalp with Some water, like, very diluted. You look at me like I'm crazy.
- [64:39]
A
No, I just was like, I don't know why that was funny to me. Just like apple cider vinegar on their head.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
- [64:45]
A
What about breast milk?
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B
Yeah, breast milk's fantastic. Especially also for, like, pink eye and stuff. Breast milk's great. Ear infections. Breast milk is great, like in the ear.
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A
Okay.
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B
Yeah. I like black cumin oil. I think black cumin oil is really good for. For fungus. Another herb called Scutellaria supreme. I talk about all these herbs on my Instagram. So, you know, if people are like, what did he say? I. I talk about them all week long. But Scutellaria is. Is called. Is by Callin is the actual, like, nutrient of it. And by Callin is really, really anti mold, fungal, anti epstein bar. Really good for lymph. And it's pregnancy safe, Breastfeeding safe, children safe.
- [65:22]
A
Do you think every woman should be taking Schisandra?
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B
If someone's like, I, I don't know where to start with anything. I just want to try something that maybe is beneficial for me. I would probably go Schisandra because it's a berry that works on all phases of liver detox. And female hormones, like females are. Have. Are so much more sensitive to different estrogens compared to males. Right. And so your estrogen has to go through your liver to be recycled and, and all that type of stuff. So I think Shashandra, probably my number one. If I had to choose an herb to try.
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A
What can be done if you feel UTI symptoms but the tests are coming
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B
back negative, I would first check emotions.
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A
Emotions?
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B
Yeah.
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A
What do you mean?
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B
A lot of times, genital urinary infections and general urinary tract things have a emotional stress or trauma behind them. So, like, for instance, your bladder and kidneys is related to fear. So a lot of people, I mean, it's a fearful world. A lot of people live in. The frequency of fear and feeling paralyzed and bladder is feeling terrified or scared of something similar to fear. And so if they're living something, they're scared of something happening, then that changes the terrain of your body, like I was saying. And now you either can get set up for an infection or you feel like you have an infection. And so I would say emotions first. If you have chronic UTIs, I would check in on biofilms, which is a defense shield for infections that can just live there. I would also check mold.
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A
How do you heal a UTI without antibiotics?
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B
D. Mannose is really good and cranberry because it helps unstick the. The bacteria from the walls. Actually blueberry juice too. A lot of people know cranberry juice, but blueberry juice also showed to do that for, for the bacteria in the vaginal canal and in the bladder and all that type of stuff as well. Different herbs. UVA ursi is really good. Golden thread, which is as a berberine is also pretty good. Oregano can be good. Grapefruit seed extract can be good. Olive leaf can be. Again, this is. That goes back to muscle testing of I want to know specifically and I have a few recommendations in my membership. I have a UTI video and stuff that, you know, that probably helps the 80 percenters.
- [67:31]
A
What do you think about the nicotine patch craze for long Covid symptoms or chronic pain?
- [67:35]
B
I love the questions you ask me are if I say one thing, I get just bashed from one side and then the other side. This is, is. This is why I go on walks with my 6 year old and tell her about chemtrails.
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A
Yeah, sorry I had to do it to you.
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B
Hey, look, I've seen some, some people who had long Covid and it's like, hey, it really. It's what. The only thing that got me over long Covid or you know, brain health or stuff like that. I've seen it for sure. I've also seen people try it because, you know, they were told that everyone should try it and then they're like, it crashed me like crazy or my autoimmune got worse or whatever. So I am for anything that helps somebody. But I don't think there is one thing for everybody. And I would say that if it tests well, if you feel great on it, awesome, it helped you. So same thing as an antibiotic, right? Like, hey, if this, if you had sepsis and this IV antibiotic saved your life, amazing medical miracle. But that doesn't mean that everybody should just hook up an IV antibiotic because it helps someone with sepsis. I feel the same with nicotine patches.
- [68:40]
A
Are chronic cracked heels on your feet a lotion deficiency or something else?
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B
Too much glyphosate stripping your glycine. Right. I find that cracked heels usually is a kidney bladder thing because the meridians run right through the heels. And I also find that it's low vitamin E and sometimes a thyroid issue.
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A
Oh, yeah.
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B
I also said that dry skin could be gallbladder. Right. We also talked about glyphosate that could be depleting your glycine and that creates hair, skin, nail issues and joint issues. Because of the collagen lack. So it could be any of that and all of that. But I would say if I had to choose, if, if it was just what would you check first? I would look at kidney and bladder flora.
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A
You know what drives me insane is those kids that have those like red chapped rings around their mouths and the parents are always like stop licking. Yeah. But it's not a lot of times that's not what's going on. What do you, what have you seen for that?
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B
Infections and food sensitivities.
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A
I think it's food sensitivity too.
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B
Yeah, I, I, the usually those are the kids who are not eating a clean diet.
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A
Agree. And you know what else? I think there's a connection. Those kids are drinking the milk at school for sure. And a lot of that milk has carrageenan. What should you do for a child with hand, foot and mouth disease?
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B
I use a essential oil called Elite Harmony from Vervita. Another one I talk about all the time on my Instagram and membership. It's. It's a blend of many oils and I'll have them do two baths a day that with one called Immune Harmony Oil. Same line with Epsom salt and from depends on how old they are. If they're older than like 6 months then I'll usually have them do elderberry and vitamin C from. It's called Acerola from Supreme Nutrition.
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A
Adults are sometimes getting this too. Right. So would you have them do the same protocol?
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B
Yeah, and I would probably also go a little stronger on the herbs. There's a like more capsule form some herbs that I would do but the I think personally the baths with the oils is a non negotiable.
- [70:38]
A
There's so many things I could ask you. I could talk to you about like anything and everything under the sun but we don't have time for that. However you have your special classes that people can sign up for. Can you remind people where to go for that?
- [70:49]
B
Again just Dr. Charlie DC is Instagram and then Dr. Charlie dc.com is the website and like I said it's. It went all over the world. We have a private Facebook group with all the members in there who talk 24 7. A lot of moms with kids talking about what worked, what didn't. You know, all that type of stuff. And my goal was to get to have people have access to my knowledge 24 7. It has a Dr. Charlie AI feature so it has all my information. You type in anything you want, it'll answer through with all my information knowledge I wanted that so people can have it at home. And then I also wanted people to feel like they're part of a community because again, it's. It's kind of like it can feel lonely in the holistic medicine community.
- [71:28]
A
Totally.
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B
So I wanted that to be. And then like I said, we do Q&As every Tuesday for an hour. And yeah, every week I put an hour and a half of new Q and A footage in there. So every week it grows by an hour and a half of footage of turns into this giant digital library.
- [71:43]
A
Is there a discount code for my audience?
- [71:45]
B
There is, but we got to find out what that is.
- [71:48]
A
I'll put it in the show in the show notes ever either. But we'll find out. We'll put it in the show notes. So make sure you always check there. Remind everyone what your podcast is.
- [71:55]
B
Podcast is Red Pill, your healthcast. We took a. About a. Almost a year off.
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A
We need you.
- [72:02]
B
What do you know?
- [72:03]
A
What do you do?
- [72:04]
B
It really was just like the whole healthy home project I've been doing really what is like the busiest I've ever been in my life.
- [72:11]
A
You. He bought a smart home. He was telling me before we started. And they've been redoing it, undoing all the smart home stuff to make it a dumb, dumb home.
- [72:19]
B
Yep.
- [72:19]
A
And make it a holistic health, healthy home. And so that's been a huge project.
- [72:22]
B
Huge. It's. It should be done mid March and it's been six months. And honestly it was, it was, it checked all the boxes and it's an older built home. It's like a 20 year old home which we found just, they just built them so much more sturdy back then when it wasn't such a everyone moving to Tennessee type thing. But the previous owners wanted the best Internet so they installed smart home stuff and we just had to hardwire all of it and, and it's going to be awesome when it's done. But it's been a big project that we're going to. My wife and I are going to start sharing to Instagram once we move in. We can take more footage and just like take people through the journey. But that was such a huge undertaking. And then Lauren, the co host, who, you know, Lauren, obviously love her, she had another child. So it was just a good time to kind of. Let's take a break. But I. We're planning on getting back to doing it hopefully this summer.
- [73:12]
A
Okay, great. We're so excited about that. Okay. I know you've been on the show once before. But maybe your answer has changed. If you could offer one remedy to heal a sick culture physically, emotionally or spiritually at this time, what would it be?
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B
I've just got done reading again. Eckhart Tolle, the Power of now. And I would say live in the present. Live in the present. I. This is, you're. You're getting into my head now. This is like where my head is at. I have this, like this not theory, but this is. I was just talking to someone last night about this. On how like every part of your life, in that moment, you're the oldest you've ever been. So in that moment you think you're the wisest you've ever been and that you like know everything. And then as you go through life, you start looking back on, wow, only if I knew this back then. And you start having regrets, you start having, you know, people get depressed about it or whatever. I think that people do that more often than they think. And I started reading the Power of Now and just like the power of just being totally present right now and not living in the past, not living for the future and just being. Just being, I think is so powerful that it's like I. The last year I've really dove into emotional work and I've done a whole bunch of different stuff that I'm surprised didn't come up on this show.
- [74:27]
A
Now we just have to have you back again.
- [74:29]
B
I know we can, we can talk more about that about like things like ayahuasca and stuff like that.
- [74:33]
A
Oh my gosh, I'm too scared to
- [74:35]
B
do all that changed my life.
- [74:37]
A
If somebody wants you to be their doctor in person, can they do that?
- [74:40]
B
Right now when I'm going back to seeing patients, probably going to be 100 virtual.
- [74:44]
A
Oh well. Really?
- [74:45]
B
Yeah. We looked for a house for a year and my goal was to open up a studio in the house and just go from that. And it took us a year to find a house and then six months to finally find one and then six months to remodel it. And so I, you know, I do the membership weekly. We're gonna get back to doing the podcast. Half my, my practice was virtual anyways. And so I think it's just a good. I feel like I want to go back to first doing all virtual.
- [75:13]
A
So wait, how do you do that? Frequency medicine? How do you hold up the little vials and do. If it's virtual?
- [75:18]
B
Cuz there's some people that are able to do it from a distance. That's a whole another ball game. Of frequency medicine. It's kind of like, it's like listen to the radio, right? You have this satellite above you and then to get to the radio station you're kind of fine tuning the frequency. If you're able to do that with self muscle testing or something called resonating that is very similar to that. And you're on a zoom call with somebody and you can, you can see them. It's kind of like the same thing as a satellite. You can just tap in. And not everyone can do that. Some people will say who must test, say no, we you can't do that, blah blah blah. But it's also what convinced me that muscle testing works.
- [75:57]
A
That's wild.
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B
Yeah, it's a whole nother. You know, what we talk on here is very the, the tip of the iceberg of what's possible in frequency medicine.
- [76:04]
A
Yeah. If you want to learn more, you got to do his membership. Dr. Charlie, thank you for coming on.
- [76:08]
B
Yeah, thanks for having me.
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A
Foreign Dr. Charlie is truly one of the most fun guests because he has a solution to everything. Leave comments on the episode in a five star review or the Cute Servitors Facebook group. New episodes come out every Monday and Thursday at 6pm Pacific, 9pm Eastern, anywhere you get your podcasts. This content is for informational purposes only and is not intended to be taken as medical advice. Always consult with a qualified healthcare professional regarding any questions or decisions related to your health, health or medical care. I'm Alex Clark and this is Culture Apothecary.