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Vaccines, Flu Shots, Circumcision & Hep B On Grocery Carts? | Dr. Sherri Tenpenny, DO
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Vaccines have never been proven to be safe. They don't keep you from getting sick. None of them are necessary. There are millions of unvaccinated kids in this country now that aren't sick. They don't have asthma, allergies, eczema, add, they don't use inhalers, they don't have chronic daily medications. Every single vaccine causes a level of harm.
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If a parent says, okay, I still want to do some vaccines and they wanna follow a slower or a customized vaccine schedule, what should they know about safety and timing that if you are.
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Making that decision, you haven't done enough your homework yet. A little poison is still poison.
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What if the most routine decisions parents make, the vitamin K shot, the hepatitis B vaccine, even circumcision, were never about health at all, but about conditioning an entire population from birth? What if measles outbreaks, flu shot seasons and viral fear campaigns weren't accidents of nature, but precision crafted levers in a system designed to keep you obedient, uninformed and terrified of asking the wrong questions? Today we're stepping into the shadows of the narrative where Dr. Sherry Tenpenny claims the CDC's fear playbook is real, where she argues parents are manipulated rather than educated, and where ingredients, risks and medical rituals are kept out of sight and out of mind. For over two decades, Dr. Tenpenny has positioned herself as a whistleblower inside what she calls a pharmaceutical empire with zero accountability. She spent more than 25 years documenting what she believes big pharma and public health agencies never wanted the public to know. Work that led to her being named in Joe Biden's Disinfectant information, dozen targeted, silenced and attacked. Yet she maintains that every warning she issued has unfolded in real time. Today she joins us to discuss the system she says is collapsing. Her new podcast, the 10 Penny Files on America Outloud News, and the detox strategy she promotes for anyone exposed to vaccines, including a daily heavy metal spray available with an Automatic discount@alex.doctor detox.com pause right now and leave a 5 star review anywhere you listen because this is an extremely censored topic and we need all support that we can get. I cannot put this episode on YouTube because we could get demonetized. However, you could watch the video version on the Culture Apothecary Spotify. Please welcome Dr. Sherry Tenpenny to Culture Apothecary. Why do some kids get very mild reactions while others have stronger, more serious reactions to the exact same shot?
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A lot of it has to do with family history and genetics it's the one area of medicine and health care where we don't include in the family history. I mean like in family history. You talk about, do you have a history of migraines, history of cancer, history of asthma, allergies, heart disease? All of those things get taken in a normal history. We never ask the new mom or the new dad, does anybody in your family have a history of vaccine injury? Anybody in your family develop seizures or asthma after they've had vaccines? It's not part of the family history. So we never take in mind the genetics of that child from the time that they go in for their first vaccination visit. The second thing is because we don't know what their genetics are. There's a whole section of healthcare that is ignored. It's called inborn errors of metabolism. At least 10% of children are born with some minor genetic defect that may not manifest until much later in life. But when you've got this minor genetic defect, you may not be able to detoxify the stuff from the vaccines as well. We don't test for MTHFR deficiencies on newborns to know whether or not they'll be able to detox the aluminum or any of those other things. So we don't know what the underlying genetics are. We don't know if children have inborn errors of metabolism. We don't know if there's a family history of vaccine reactions. We just have a one size fits all vaccination schedule, a program that correlates with office visits that are set up by the insurance company.
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So if a parent goes to a functional medicine doctor or naturopath or something like that, are they able to find a doctor who can do an MTHFR test on their newborn?
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Sure. But if they, they'll generally have to pay cash for it.
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Yeah.
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And most doctors in integrative medicine is, are very aware of that. Another thing that I think is associated with, with children having more of a higher risk of vaccine reactions is if they have a low iodine level. Now the only iodine that children get in their bodies comes from their mothers and during the time that they're pregnant and when they start to nurse. Because iodine, you know, is attracted to the breast tissue. It's incorporated into the breast tissue the whole time that you've been taking it. But it's really, really important when you're lactating because the iodine in the breast milk goes into the baby, helps to develop the thyroid and also gets, helps to develop iq. And it also is protective from Outsourced. Outsourced environmental toxicities. And we know from the NHANES study, which is the National Health association studies that have been done, the most recent one was probably 10 years ago, that most of America is iodine deficient. Up to 19% of young mothers are iodine deficient, and they don't even know it. We've done a lot of things to take iodine out of the diet. We tell people, don't eat eggs. We have to, you know, don't eat salt. And, you know, one of the main ways that we got iodine was through iodinized salt. So we tell people to not eat salt or we cook with salt. The iodine is a gas, and as soon as it gets heated, it floats away. And so we have a lot of reasons to be iodine deficient in this country. We have iodine deficiency all over the world. In fact, the International Iodine Deficiency Diseases Organization is bigger than the World Health Organization, and nobody even knows about it.
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So then would it be a good idea or a bad idea, a pregnant mother to be like, I need to be supplementing iodine?
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Absolutely.
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You think it can just be beneficial. She doesn't need to do a test first or anything.
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There really is no blood test for iodine levels. There is a. An experimental test that's done with urine tests that is difficult to do and isn't very accurate. I think that most women can assume that they need some extra iodine, but you don't want to overdo it. Iodine is not a vitamin that's like vitamin D or vitamin or like calcium or magnesium that you can take a lot of it. And when your body doesn't need it, it just gets rid of it. Iodine needs to be done judiciously. And if you have a thyroid problem, an underlying hypothyroidism, or Hashimoto's disease, you should be taking iodine under the guidance of a, of a holistic practitioner that understands that iodine is very powerful. But if you're taking low doses of it, low doses of, of. Of nascent iodine or low doses of potassium iodide, or it's just good for you overall, or to just look up on the Internet all the foods that have high iodine levels in them and increase more of those. Those foods into your diet.
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You say that the CDC has a fear playbook for vaccines. How is the CDC manipulating parents? And what should families really know?
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What families really should know is that they, they need to do their investigation about vaccines before they have a baby. You know, I've said for a long time that when you get pregnant, God gives you two gifts. The first gift is your ability to get pregnant. And with the fertility rates all over the world dropping, it's going to be more important in the world in the future to even be so grateful when you get pregnant. That's your first gift. The second gift is God gives you anywhere from six to seven months to get prepared for this new life that's coming into your world that you're going to be responsible for forever. And so you need to do a lot of investigation about nursing versus formulas versus bottles versus, you know, the types of nipples that you use on bottles if you're going to bottle feed. What sort of supplements can you give to babies right away? You can give them vitamin D as soon as they're born. And you need to do your study and your investigation about vaccines. When you are in labor is not the time that you should be deciding whether or not your baby is going to get a hepatitis B shot, an RSV shot and a vitamin K sh. There's a whole lot of things going on when you're in labor and making a life impacting decision about this newborn in your life. That is not the time to do it. You've had seven, eight months to do it ahead of time. And it's so much more important to make decisions and get education about that than about deciding what the color of the nursery is going to be? Because that's just fun. I mean, that's just a fun. Part of suddenly becoming a mom is how you get to decorate things and color things. But it has nothing to do with taking care of the baby and understanding what's coming through that needle. That could be a life altering event. You need to get educated about that before the baby's born.
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In what ways specifically do you believe parents are being misled in the pediatrician's office when they try to ask questions?
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Pediatricians have all been taught vaccines are safe, effective, necessary and are harmless. And each one of those statements is false. Vaccines have never been proven to be safe. They don't keep you from getting sick. You can have the vaccine and high antibody levels and still contract the illness. None of them are necessary. There are millions of unvaccinated kids in this country now that aren't sick. They don't have asthma, allergies, eczema, add, they don't use inhalers, they don't have chronic daily medications. And every single vaccine causes a level of harm, even if it's just at a cellular level. Changing the epigenetics of that child, changing little things, shaving off a few points of their IQ that you may, that you may not know about or be able to recognize until later. Vaccines do all of those things.
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What is the evidence to support that, that it's shaving off iq?
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Because you know that every, every vaccine has a, an ability to cause encephalitis or to cause brain swelling or cause brain edema. And all of those things lead to lower iq. And when you have all of those toxicities in your body that your body has to take care of, you know that your body is a little bit less healthy.
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You say that no vaccine has been proven safe.
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None.
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What do you mean?
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There has never been on any one of the vaccines that are currently given a truly placebo controlled trial where in one, a set of children they were given the new vaccine and in the other set of children it was a true saline placebo. And so unless you're comparing a vaccine against saline, how can you say it's safe? All of the vaccine trials are a vaccine compared to another vaccine. And so all you're doing is saying one particular vaccine may have a lower side effect profile, but most of the time they are. It's one vaccine compared against another. And I'll give you an example. The Rotaryx vaccine, which they give is an oral vaccine that they give to children to try to prevent them from getting diarrhea. We don't really need it in this country at all. It can be beneficial in some children in third world countries that don't have clean water and potable water. But the rotaryx vaccine trial, the vaccine trial was using the Rotaryx vaccine in the control arm, which was supposed to be a placebo. They used the same vaccine, the Rotaryx vacc, minus the virus. So it was all the chemicals, all the, everything that was in there, minus the virus. And at the end of the study, they said the side effects profile were the same. Well, of course they were the same. It was the same vaccine. And that's just one example of, you know, many, many things across the board.
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How long were the majority of the safety trials done on the vaccines on the childhood schedule?
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The average length of time is probably somewhere between 15 and 30 days. It's been as short as four days. When they brought the first hepatitis B vaccine to market, they followed safety to see if there were any side effects for five days. The second hepatitis B vaccine that came to market, they followed side effects for.
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Four days, is four to 30 days. You think from a medical perspective A long enough time to really look at safety?
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Absolutely not. It can take months to years to develop. Autoimmune diseases, neurological complications, other types of things like GI disorders, encephalitis can start right away, but it can be slow brewing for a long period of time. No, that is not a safety trial.
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Are kids who are fully vaccinated really safer from disease?
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No, because you can get the injection, have a very high antibody titer, which is the whole point of the exercise. I mean, the whole reason that the vaccine industry exists is to create what they call protective antibodies, antibodies which aren't protective at all. In fact, even the ACIP committees, when they start to talking about, after you get the injection, you get a high antibody level, do you still get sick? Well, we don't want to talk about that because the truth is, yes, you can. In fact, several of the big outbreaks that we've known that have happened, say in the last 10 or 15 years with pertussis and mumps and measles were people that had had two or more of those vaccines. They were like four fully vaccinated military ships that had like a mumps outbreak, you know, and they had. And we know that pertussis has a life cycle. It's a bacterial infection has a life cycle of about every two to five years, you're going to see an uptick of that infection rate, irrespective of vaccination rate. So every time we get this bacteria that its life cycle, every two to five years, there's more of it and we see a small outbreak of pertussis. And even if you've been fully vaccinated, even if you have a high antibody level, you're still going to see these outbreaks and you may be the one that contracts that infection because antibody levels, you, you can have a high antibody level and still get the infection. That's even true in tetanus. The CDC's most recent, which was a while back, survey that they did about tetanus injections, that people could have four or more tetanus shots and have high antibody levels and still contract infection. So what is the moral of that story? If you've got a cut or you've got a puncture, you need to clean it out. You need to pour a lot of hydrogen peroxide on it. You need to clean it out with lots of warm soapy water. If it's a cut that's bleeding, let it bleed. Let the blood come into the cut, because the blood pushes out the dirt from underneath and it also brings in White blood cells and different types of cells that are going to blockade that infection and to clean it out really, really well. Now, standard of care would say that if you have a deep puncture wound that if you. And it's a way that you cannot clean it out like in the bottom of your foot, you need to get a tetanus shot because it's standard of care. The problem is that doesn't necessarily keep you from getting intact, getting tetanus. There are, there are homeopathics called ledum and things like that that can help from the inside. Make sure your vitamin D level is really super high. We already talked a little bit about iodine because iodine is your body's n natural antiseptic that helps to fight off infections. My first life, I was a board certified emergency medicine and I was the director of a level two trauma center for 12 years. And one of the things when people would, you know, hop over a fence and get a deep puncture wound in the bottom of their foot from a rake or from a nail or from anything that may be in there, it was really, really important when you were in the ER to open up that wound to take off the shoe, take off the sock and numb up the area and then dig into that area and pull out the piece of shoe or the piece of sock or something that got stuck up into that wound. Because many times when you get an infection after you've had a puncture wound, it's not tetanus, it may be staph or something else like that because you forgot to move. Remove the foreign body that got pushed up in there when you jumped on that nail or on that rake. So anybody that's listening to this, it's really important that if you end up with a deep puncture wound and you end up going to the emergency room because of that, don't just go there to get a tetanus shot. Go there and say, I want you to numb that up and make sure that there's no foreign body in there and pull that out so you don't end up with a secondary infection.
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The only one would be a rabies vaccine.
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Okay?
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That's the only one. And that's because if you contract rabies, that is uniformly fatal. If you contract tetanus, we've been told it's uniformly fatal and it's not okay. In fact, when I started into this whole investigative journey that I've been on 25 years ago when I first investigated the tetanus vaccine, I was reading all these case reports of so and so had this happen. They developed tetanus, they were in the hospital for seven to 10 days and they fully recovered. I read story after story and case study. It was like, wait a minute. Even in medical school and physicians are taught that if you can get tetanus you're going to die. That's why you have to have a tetanus shot, even if you've had one within the last 10 years, you know, it's better, better be safe than sorry, you know, that whole sort of thing. But that's not true. It's a nasty infection. You want to do everything you can to avoid it. If you contract it, the likelihood of dying is very, very small. In fact, there was a case report of 50 people who had developed tetanus. 47 of them went back to work after they recovered from the tetanus. Three of them, the only residual that they had was they had a lot of anxiety over having had the infection, but they were alive, they didn't die. Now, with rabies, that's different rabies, if you contract a rabies infection, it is generally fatal. But you have to do decide whether or not you're gonna go through that rabies vaccine series, which I believe is a five to seven injection series. That's really toxic vaccine and very expensive and it has a lot of side effects and complications. So I think, you know, the knee jerk reflex of ER docs are as if you got bit by a dog or a cat, even a little scratch. You need a tetanus shot and a rabies vaccine, which just really isn't true. You need to use common sense. I'll give you, for instance, recently a friend of mine, they had been taking care of a, of a feral cat and they'd had it for a while, but they'd never picked it up. It was not sick, was very friendly, beautiful little cat, little kitty. And the first time that they went to pick it up, it got scared and bit them on the finger, bit the person on the finger. And there was nothing wrong with that cat. It wasn't that the cat was rabid that bit him. This cat got scared and was put in a situation where it was really afraid. So did he need to get a rabies shot from that? No. And if you can observe the animal, if it's a pet or you can observe the animal, they observe them anywhere from two to three weeks. And if there's no signs of rabies, then it's not a big deal. The only way to test for rabies is to kill the animal and examine its brain. So if it's not sick and you know it was just bit you because it was scared. That's a different scenario than if you're bit by a wild animal that looks sick, that's toxic, that's not walking right, that's off balance, that is very aggressive and chases you and you can't capture that animal to test it, then Absolutely. I think that the rabies vaccine would be in order because irrespective of how bad the side effects may be from that vaccine, it is the only option to keep you from dying.
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What is the biggest misconception that we are told about the polio vaccine?
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The polio vaccine came to market in 1954 that really wasn't thoroughly tested, didn't have a placebo controlled trial. Some places that you read even talk about them using tetanus shots as placebos. There is a whole series of things that talk about polio was caused by DDT and not by a virus. Polio is a gastrointestinal virus. It's. And even from on the CDC's website, in the section that talks about polio, 97% of people that came in contact with the polio virus back in the day, in the 50s when there was a raging amount of polio viruses, around 97% of people had what looked like the stomach flu. They had a little bit of diarrhea, passed right through, and they had a lifetime of immunity. Less than 2% of 2%. So it's 0.04% of people that contracted a polio infection ended up with any with, with long term paralysis. And even to this day, I mean, there has been no polio in the western hemisphere since 1991.
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Right, but they're saying that's because of the vaccine.
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Yeah, but when do you decide it's eliminated and you don't need it anymore? When do you decide there is no virus in the western hemisphere? You know, Canada, North America, Central America, South America since 1991 and has been certified as polio free by the World health organization since 1994. So for 30 years we've had no polio viruses in the environment. I mean, there are places in the world on the western hemisphere that I'm sure that kids don't have polio vaccines. If the virus was out there around, somebody would have gotten polio. They haven't.
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In your opinion, did we get to this point because of the vaccine or because something else?
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Because of hygiene? Because this is a gastrointestinal virus. We stopped using the oral polio vaccine here in the United states in about 2001 because it was the only thing causing paralysis. It was the only thing causing the condition. We caused polio was the oral polio vaccine that they still use in other parts of the world. But once you get hygiene and you get water treatment plants and you can treat the, the sewage and things like that it's not around. And even when you get exposed to the virus, historically more than 97% of kids just look like they had a diarrhea. You know, this was about, I don't know when it was, was somewhere within the last year all this terrible stuff was going on in Gaza. And they, they said that they found a, a polio virus in the sewage one, probably because it came from the oral polio vaccine, which is what the problem is all around the world is that they still use the oral polio vaccine. And the World Health Organization pounced on that as an opportunity to go in and vaccinate with the oral polio vaccine. It was several million children in Gaza. I was so upset by that because it's like those children don't need an oral polio vaccine. They need safety, they need potable water, they need food, they need protection, they need warmth, they need electricity more than they need an oral polio vaccine. The whole issue about polio, I mean, there are many books on polio vaccines and how they came to market. One of my favorite books is called the Virus and the Vaccine by Debbie Bookchin and her co author. And it was written, it's a really, really good book. It's written like a suspense thriller. And the first half of the book talks about the development of the polio vaccine and how when it was released in 1954, I believe that there was a physician in Michigan who didn't believe that they had been tested adequately or they were safe. So he took those vials of vaccines and set them into a refrigerator and never gave them to anybody. Years later, Dr. Michael Carbone, who's a PhD and a researcher, had been looking at the fact that the polio vaccines were contaminated with simian virus 40 that came from the monkey kidney cells that they used to make the polio vaccine and that the simian virus 40 came from the monkeys. They were just normal contaminants inside of monkeys, but inside of humans, they contributed to growing slow growing tumors, slow going cancers, osteosarcomas, glio glioblastomas, and a whole list of cancers. So he got with this researcher in Michigan, got the original polio vaccines that they made and said yes, they were contaminated with this SV40, with this virus that can cause cancer. It's a cancer causing virus. And so the second half of the book is all about him and how he tried to get the FDA to look at this and, and stop using monkey kidney cells to develop the polio vaccine because of the contaminants and all this stuff and how his lab was shut down and all of his money was taken away, his credentials were ruined. Just like every other researcher that has stood up against the government and against the pharmaceutical industry, Their careers usually are pretty well toast.
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What does vitamin K actually do for babies and is it necessary?
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What vitamin K does is it causes baby's blood to thicken and clot. The theory is that when, when a baby's born, you've got something this big going through a hole this big that you can cause rips and tears in the, the, the dura matter of the brain. And if you don't give them something to clot their, clot their blood, they will end up with these brain bleeds. The studies that showed that came out of like the 1950s and it was a very small set of children that had this problem. The downside is, is that it's a synthetic vitamin K. The second thing is, is that when, when babies are born again as something this big, going through a hole this big, there are microscopic tears that happen all over their body. It's just natural. It's just part of, part of the birthing process that even happens in babies that have C sections. What the body does, what that little baby's body does is mobilizes stem cells and white blood cells to immediately go into those places that have been dam and to bring in the nutrients and the things that they need to be able to, to put the, put them back together again. When you toss in the vitamin K shot at birth, you, you slow that process and in some cases probably stop it. The oral vitamin K drops work equally as well. The other thing that when we started giving vitamin K at birth is particularly for little boys because of circumcision.
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Yeah, I was going to ask that. So is it necessary for circumcision or you would do something else for circumstances? Circumcision?
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Well, circumcision is a, is a Jewish custom. And so you have to decide whether or not you want to do that as a Jewish custom.
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Do you think that we are looking pretty soon at a future in America where the majority of babies are not circumcised?
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I do. I do too, because I think parents are looking into why. Why do we do this? Yeah, yeah.
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I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.
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Well, the, the main thing is that, you know, in the Jewish custom of why I started to say that is that rabbis would do the circumcision somewhere around day seven or day eight of birth. And that allows the baby's own liver to kick in and start making its own intrinsic vitamin K. So when they make that incision to cut off the foreskin, it doesn't excessively bleed. When baby boys are born in the hospital these days and parents choose to do circumcision, they do it before they send them home. So it's done on day two or day three of birth. Birth. And that's the other reason why the vitamin K shot is given at birth, because of impending circumcision. So if you're not going to circumcise and you really feel like you want to try to, you kind of believe the theory that I want to protect the baby. The oral vitamin K drops work equally as well.
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Is it true that babies who are being circumcised on day two or day three after birth don't feel pain?
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No, no. And it's. If anybody has ever seen a circumcision, it's barbaric. I only saw one during my medical training on one of my pediatric rotations, and I never wanted to see another one. It was just barbaric. What they do to these babies. I'll tell you from my n of one, my experience, they had this little boy who was literally papoosed and tied down in this. On this little board and just had his penis out where the doctor could whack off his foreskin. And that baby screamed and cried and peed and pooped and tried to vomit and did everything it could to get away from what was happening to his private parts. It was barbaric and just. And they say, well, that's okay. It's really quick. We don't. It will be done and then we'll just give it back to mom and they'll just be fine. And the follow up studies about children that, you know, that, you know, they shake and they cry and they don't feed well for the next 48 hours or so. I have a friend who's a hypnotherapist as he's also a counselor and part of his counseling with young men that come in with anxiety and depression and anger issues when he does hypnotherapy with them and takes them, you know, regresses them back through their life. Many times it goes back to when they were circumcised.
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Whoa.
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That they felt abandoned by their mother. They felt brutalized by whatever was happening to them that they couldn't understand and this excruciating pain. I mean, it's no different, in my opinion, that if every little male boy was born that we just chose to cut off the fifth toe on his right foot. Totally with no. No anesthesia, no lidocaine, no nothing.
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B
I agree with you. This is a very controversial opinion that I hold with my audience. I mean, I think they're pretty half and half on this subject. I am very against it. I'd love to hear what your thoughts are on the people that say, well, we need to do that because it is a disaster when boys can't keep it clean. And there's been so many people that are in the emergency room because they get infections as adults and things like that, and then they're having to circumcise later in life.
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Most of the time that they're circumcised later in life, it's a, it's a choice. It's not really because of, you know, they can't keep it clean. It's sort of like, what do you mean? From the time your boy, little boy, is learning to go to the bathroom, and from the time that you're changing his diaper, you have to retract that foreskin and make sure that the opening stays stretched out enough to retract over the, the head and the, the shaft of the penis. It's part of taking care of your little boy.
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B
Right.
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A
It's just like brushing as he gets older, brushing his teeth and cleaning out his ears.
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B
But what I don't understand, Doctor, is that when people say that it's an exclusively an American excuse because you've got all of these other countries in the world that are not circumcising and they have no issues.
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A
Exactly.
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B
It's only in America. So I'm like, it's a cultural thing. We just need more education. Teach parents how to take care of it, teach their kid how to take care of it. And then I feel like we're going to be fine. But, you know, the people that are struggling with that, I'm like, I just think that's because. Because it's an American culture thing.
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A
It's another one of those things. As a mother, when you get pregnant, it's on that list of like a hundred and some things that you need to investigate and just make decisions about and understand about. You know, when they talk about parents that don't vaccinate as being irresponsible, I honestly really believe that parents that choose to not vaccinate are more responsible because they have to be more vigilant about whole foods, keeping away from white sugar, white flour, you know, white rice and white homogenized cow's milk that we've always called the four great whites. Teaching them, you know, instead of giving them sugar for snacks, giving them slices of apple or oranges or things like that. Something sweet but something that's good for them. Being vigilant about washing your hands, taking vitamin D as you get older, when you choose to not vaccinate that, that's not where the care stops. Yes, you're choosing to not poison your child and inject them with all of this foreign matter and perhaps make them chronically sick for life with things like asthma, allergies, eczema, add, adhd, insulin dependent diabetes, a long list of autoimmune diseases, a long list of neurological complications. You're avoiding that because think about completely unvaccinated children. How often do they go to the doctor? Maybe once a year for a school physical, for sports. They're not constantly in the doctor for ear infections and for eczema and for getting their inhaler, for asthma. They're just not, they're healthy. But that's partly because of the responsibility that parents need to take to keep them healthy as they get older. And children will get a fever. I mean, for heaven's sakes, it's just part of the normal immune system acting appropriately. I wrote a little ebook, it's available on our website side. It's called the Importance of Fever. It's so important for parents to understand. When I was doing the research for that there had been two studies that have been done that showed that parents were scared to death of fever that they think that if their child gets a fever it's going to go to 102, 104, 107, 112 and they're going to combust right before their eyes. And it really, really talk about the fact that pediatricians feed that and let us know if he gets a fever, you know, and they put this terror in young parents lives where if you understand the importance of fever, what's happening with your immune system, why it's really important what to do to support the fever. When is the fever at the point that you do need to get medical care?
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B
Yeah. Tell us.
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A
Well, when they stop drinking, when they become lethargic, it's not about how high the fever is, it's about how long it goes on. If it's going on for three or four days, they're there's probably something like an ear infection or some other infection going on. If they're not drinking, they seem lethargic. It's been going on for a long time. It's not that it's 103. Because I've heard parents say to me, oh, it went to 105. Okay. The immune system was really hyperreacting and trying to get rid of something that was there. It's not about how high it is, it's about how long it's gone on and whether or not your child's drinking water. If it's a baby, you can take ice cubes and put them in a. Put them in a cloth and take a hammer and smash them up and then take those little bits of ice cube and put em in their mouth. Just that, every little bit of that really helps it also because it's ice, it helps to bring down the fever for comfort a little bit more. And as long as they're still making wet diapers. You know, you've seen kids that have 100 and 203 fever and they're running around the room playing with their toys. They're not acting like they're sick at all. So fever is something that's happening in your immune system. And when you understand it a little better, there's no reason to be afraid of it. And you need to have someone in your life that you can take your child to. Not a pediatrician, someone in your life that you trust that can say, my baby's got a fever. Should I be concerned? Now, that person could be your mother, your grandmother, an aunt, your sister, your neighbor, somebody in your yoga class, somebody at your church, somebody that has raised children, you know, and maybe you're the seventh out of, you know, a whole bunch of kids. Your mom raised a whole family. And she would just look at the baby and go, not anything to be concerned about.
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B
See, that's what I like about you. Like, you would be my dream doctor to have. Like, once I have kids that I could call up, freaking out, and then you'd be like, no, can you chill out, please? Like, honestly, we need more people like that. But you're right. Yeah. The pediatrician doesn't want to be that person, to just be so like, like, just brutally honest. But yeah, if you have someone else.
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A
In your life, someone else in your life that, that you know, has. This is your first time you're doing this. You got this new little life that you have to be responsible for, and they're going to be doing a whole bunch of things that are firsts.
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B
Yeah.
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A
Actually, it's a short story. As a friend of mine who was the seventh child in his family, and when he got to be a teenager, he went to his parents and said, Ask them, was I adopted? And they were like, no. Why do you think that? He said, well, all my other brothers and sisters, there's all these pictures of them. And you don't see very many pictures of me as a baby. And I just wondered if I was adopted. Well, he was the seventh. They've already seen kids roll over, stand up, take their first, say their first words, do all these first things. It wasn't novel anymore. When you've got this first baby, this first baby, it's everything that baby does is novel. You've not seen it before, so you need to share that, have a shared experience with somebody who's seen it before and they've been through it and they can tell you, I'm concerned about that, or I'm not concerned about it, or I just give them this. Or you could wait a little longer. And that could be any women, even men in your life that you know that have raised families and been around children. But I really am a big advocate for going to your, your mother or your grandmother because we've lost this multi generational raising of families. But you can go to your sister. Like I said, somebody in your yoga class, a nurse at your church, I mean, somebody like that. But the pediatrician has no patience intolerance for it. It, particularly if you choose not to vaccinate, they'll be scolding you and all they want to do is write you a prescription for something that you may not even need.
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B
There's a new thing going around where parents go to the pediatrician, they're questioning hep B if they really need it for their baby. And the pediatrician is going, you have to get the hep B. Your baby will die. They can contract severe disease or illness from the shopping cart in the grocery.
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A
That just makes me laugh.
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B
I mean, what is the truth and.
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A
That, well, then it ain't that.
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B
Can baby's contract hep B from a grocery cart?
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A
No, it comes from shared needles, from shared toothbrushes, from, from anal sex particularly. No, they're not going to be able to do that. And because your baby has an intact immune system, you know, we're being surrounded by pathogens every minute, every second, you and I just sitting here having this conversation. There's, there's viruses and bacteria and things on the table and things that we're touching. We're not dropping over dead. And they don't have a vaccine for most of the things that we come in contact with because our immune system has two parts. This is another part that really drives Me crazy is pediatricians will try to convince the parents you need to vaccinate because your baby was born without an immune system, which is a lie. Your immune system has two parts. One is called the innate immune system, which is the immune system that you're born with that has proteins on the surface of every cell in your body called toll like receptors. T O L L dash L I K E Toll like receptors. And I think of them as like navigation or sonar devices that are scanning your blood 24 7, 365 every day that you're alive. And they're neutralizing things that don't belong there. Because we get bacteria in our blood every day from things that we eat, from brushing our teeth, from having a bowel movement, from having sex. We always get bacteria that ends up in our blood, and these toll like receptors neutralize it. And we don't even know that's going on. So you've got this, this incredible vigilant system called the innate immune system that your baby's born with. And it's keeping it healthy this whole time until it develops what's called the adaptive immune system. The adaptive immune system is where you get exposed to something and you develop an antibody, an intrinsic antibody, not an induced antibody from a vaccine, an intrinsic thing, so that your body starts to learn the difference between self and non self. And so when your dog, where your baby gets exposed to the dog, the cat, the guinea pig, the stuff on the carpet, you have, you take them to the barn, you're around the horses, around hay and grass and all these different things, their immune system figures it out that that's not going to harm me. I, you know, I, I recognize that I don't have to do anything with it.
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B
Do you think maybe modern mothers are a little bit too protective of babies when they're first born? That we need to be taking them out in nature a little bit, kind of other environments, not just like keeping them in the safe little Cloroxed bubble all the time. Like, are we making a mistake?
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A
Yes. Think about a hundred years ago. I mean, when Native American women used to have children by sitting down by a tree and squatting. And the baby came out and then the placenta came out, and then they gave him a bath and they wiped them up. The vast majority of them lived and did just. Well, they did weren't in a little Clorox, you know, for, heaven forbid, the Sani wipe sort of things. Oh, my gosh, that stuff is so toxic. I do believe probably somewhere in the first 30 days of life. It's best to try to just keep them at home, keep them in their normal environment, but don't be hypervigilant. And this new thing that, that's started to come out where parents are saying, you grandparents can't be around my baby until you get vaccinated with a pertussis vaccine.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And the big promotion that they did a few years ago about the big bad wolf. Remember those commercials about the grandparents, if they're not vaccinated against pertussis, they will come and infect your child? Well, this started in about 2012. It was a concept they called cocooning and it was something that they totally made up, that if they vaccinated everybody around that newborn baby with the pertussis vaccine, it would protect that baby, it would put a cocoon around that baby and keep them from getting the pertussis vaccine. Well, the truth of the matter is the pertussis vaccine that they use now is called the acellular pertussis vaccine. And they actually did a study about 2016 that showed that if you got the pertussis, the acellular pertussis vaccine, if I was the grandma and I got injected with that, I would start colonizing pertussis. That's out in the environment because it's always there, we're always exposed to it. And I would be more likely to blow pertussis on that newborn baby as I held it in my eyes, in my arms and backfiring. Exactly. And more likely to induce pertussis in that baby under three months of age, which is the most serious time in your entire life for pertussis. Because pertussis is a. It's a cough infection. It's worse at night. Not associated with a fever, usually not any mucus or anything like that. Coming up. The pertussis has little fimbri on the outside of it, little hairs that as you breathe in that bacteria, it adheres to the inside of your trachea and is an irritant and just causes a cough. And because their trachea is so small, it's smaller around than the, than the diameter of my little finger. They get exhausted. They don't have the oomph to cough it out. And they have this really harsh cough. So babies are at greater risk because of exhaustion and dehydration, not because of the infection itself. And so you don't want your 3 month old or younger to get pertussis, but as the babies get older and their trachea gets bigger, Pertussis is a cough infection which can be treated with vitamin c. And actually, Dr. Suzanne Humphries has a great paper if you go to her website, which is drsusanne.net and there's a whole paper there, it's pretty long, that talks about pertussis and what you can do with vitamin C, ascorbates as a liquid and treat even babies 3 months of age and younger. So there's no big reason to vaccinate with pertussis and there's no big reason to cocoon and to bring up the. Maybe make them get more, more exposure to pertussis. And remember, pertussis has a life, has a cycle of every two to five years. You're going to see an upkick in the amount of kids and adults that have pertussis, irrespective of vaccination rates.
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B
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, you're the doctor, I'm not. But if you are telling your grand the grandmas and the grandpas in your child's life, hey, you guys all have to be getting this vaccine and this vaccine, this vaccine or you can't be around my baby. Baby, you are increasing the inflammation in their bodies which is making them susceptible to a host of all kinds of other diseases.
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A
100 correct.
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B
You know that guy in your life, you love him, but holy hell, he stinks. Like every natural deodorant you've gotten him has totally failed. I get DMS about this constantly, okay? Wives in absolute shambles. You're like, alex, maybe it's just stress, but no, it's him. He's a walking biohazard. Look, girl, get him Zebra Natural deodorant. This is a natural deodorant. It's amazing. I live in the desert with Iraq temps most of the year, so I think I would know. It goes on clear. Smells great. It's aluminum free, paraben free, and they have a version for baking soda. Sensitive skin that's free of baking soda. So finally, you can give your man something that keeps him from smelling like a dumpster fire in the heat of summer. Zebra isn't just deodorant. So they've got silk floss with peppermint oil and xylitol. None of that polyester garbage that puts microplastics in your gums. They have toothpaste tablets and toothpaste that actually make brushing easy and fun and also non toxic. The most important part, your man is gonna look like he actually knows what hygiene is for once. Go to yayzebra.com use code Alex for 10 off. That's yayzebra.com code Alex every time I go home, my mom asked me to bring masa chips and I swear. Okay, one night I hear rustling. I turn on the light and there she is, perched over my suitcase, eating my masa chips like some deranged pasta. I threw a flip flop at her and that didn't even work because let's be real, we're not Latina. But here's the thing. Masa chips aren't just for moms with poor impulse control. Did you know that up until the 1990s all chips and fries were cooked in tallow? Then big corporations ruined it with cheap seed oils. Now seed oils make up 20 of the average American's calories and studies link them to metabolic issues and inflammation. Masa said, not for us. They made a tortilla chip with just three ingredients. Organic corn, sea salt and 100 grass fed beef tallow. No seed oils, nothing bad. These chips are crunchier, tastier and sturdier than anything else out there. Especially the other seed oil free alternatives. In my opinion, your guac is gonna actually make it onto the chip without the chip breaking. And because of the tallow, they are so satiating. You are gonna eat a couple of these chips and be like, wow, I can actually sit here and have a few chips without eating the whole bag. It's so amazing. You're gonna feel so energized instead of bloated and miserable. Personally cannot get enough of the carbonaro flavor. That is an excellent option if you're like a Dorito fan. If you want to try masa chips, go to masachips.com use code real Alex Clark for 25 off your first order. That's masachips.com code real Alex Clark for 25 off. Or if you prefer to see them in the wild, grab a bag at Sprouts. How do vaccine ingredients interact with each other when multiple shots are given at the same time?
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A
Nobody knows. The only reason that pediatricians or the entire industry wants to vaccinate is to create an antibody. So when they started doing this thing, Peter Ricks was the first one and I believe it was around 2001. Maybe. Maybe it was. I don't have the date right, but PDRX was the first vaccine, the combination vaccine that came out. So it was like dpt, hepatitis B and polio I think are in. Are the five of those together? I'm pretty sure that that's correct. Well, when they tested PDRX to see whether or not it worked, meaning did it create an antibody. The control groups were individual vaccines given in a different extremity. And did they, when they were given individually, did they get antibodies as the same as if you gave all of them together in one shot? And when the antibody levels were the same, they said, oh, safe and effective. We can give all these vaccines together in one shot instead of giving five different shots. Shots. Now the problem with that is it became very deceptive for parents because parents back in 2014, 15, in that era were becoming very suspicious about all these vaccines. They were like, do I need to get all these and do I need to get them all at the same time? And am I going to be exposed to all these infection pathogens at the same time? Can I spread them out and give one at a time? They weren't anti vaxxers. They weren't like saying no, but they were looking at what was being injected into their liver, little baby's little body, all at the same time. The vaccine industry said, well, we'll just combine them into one combination shot. So when the nurse walks in, say, we're just getting one shot today, when actually they were getting five, but they were getting one shot. But it had all these different combinations in and the actual combinations of what is in that shot, of how it causes inflammation and what other toxicities it causes, nobody really knows because nobody's really studied that.
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B
That when I tell people that there's 72, 75 vaccines now on the childhood vaccine schedule, they're like, you're lying, you're full of it. I've been there every single time my child has been injected. They have not been injecting my kids 70 plus times. And I'm like, there's multiple vaccines in one of those syringes. Right? But they don't even understand that that's what's going on.
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A
Well, the other thing is that rotavirus and now the new R and and one of the new RSV vaccines are oral drops. So even though you're getting doses of vaccines, when you get a rotavirus vaccine, you're getting an oral drop, you're not getting an injection. So that's another thing where parents don't make those counts. And you're absolutely right. Those combination vaccines, they now have, some of the combination vaccines, have up to seven different vaccines in them, you know, so instead, but you get one shot, unless you actually say, can I see the package insert? Can you tell me what vaccine antigens are in that shot that my baby's getting today? You're not going to know.
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B
There's aluminum. There's fetal cells, there's hamster ovaries. Is that what you said?
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A
Chinese hamster ovaries?
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B
That's in baby vaccines. What happens when all of that stuff is going into a baby's body? Like, why would. Why should those ingredients concern parents?
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A
They are foreign proteins. And every time a foreign protein gets injected into the body, it can create an antibody and it can cause an inflammatory response. The problem is nobody's ever tested that. And I've looked for this for years. You know, I've been doing this for 25 years in that. Why is it that we don't check for antibodies against the aluminum against the all of the different foreign protein cells, like the aborted fetal cells, the Chinese hamster ovary, the dog kidney cells, the cells from monkey cells, the monkey kidney cells. One of the flu shots called flu block is made from bugs. And we don't test for the proteins for that. We don't test for antibodies to any of the chemicals that are injected into the body. And in fact, there's a lawsuit that has recently been filed against the CDC for never testing the safety of the entire vaccine schedule against placebo and not following the entire life of these children that get all of these shots their entire life. There's actually a lawsuit saying you've never tested the face the safety of this entire schedule.
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B
Who did that lawsuit?
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A
Stanford Health Freedom is one of the people behind it, Dr. Paul Thomas. And then there's a couple of other people that are related that are involved in that.
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B
If a parent says, okay, I still want to do some vaccines, and they want to follow a slower or a customized vaccine schedule, what should they know about safety and timing?
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A
I would say that if you are making that decision, you haven't done enough of your homework yet. And one of the books that I'm really strongly recommending to all parents that they read, it's a pretty thick book, but particularly parents that are eggheady, meaning they want to see the research, they want to see the proof, they want to see the references, they want to read the references for themselves. I would say the book Turtles all the Way down by Children Health Defense is a must read for any. Any parent, but particularly those category of parents that are like, I want the proof because it was written by two or three Israeli pediatricians that wanted to remain somewhat anonymous. And so that's why Mary Holland and Zoe o' Toole are the editors, because they edited it and then Children's Health Defense published it. But that book has more than a thousand references of things that you can look at and it goes through each one of the childhood illnesses, what the illness is, why you shouldn't be concerned about it, what you can do about it, and then about each one of the vaccines, what's in it. And you know, when parents say I still want to do a little bit of vaccinating, it's like a little poison is still poison. And any one of the vaccines can be the one, even if you've only gotten one. Like for example, years ago I did a court case with the federal court of claims with vaccine court case of a 40 something year old college professor that got convinced by his doctor to get a hepatitis A vaccine because he was going to Punta Cana. Why there? I don't know. And he never had any other vaccines. So he got the hepatitis A vaccine and became chronically disabled, couldn't work and was on chronic disability from that. And I tell that story in brief to a lot of people because they, it can be any one of them.
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B
That's a very delayed schedule. He's 40 years old getting this hepe vaccine and still got vaccine injured.
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A
Right.
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B
For parents that are making this decision, what vaccines? Any vaccines, no vaccines. Whatever your choice is that you're making, there is a risk. And you as the parent, you have to decide what is worth the risk. To me, would I rather take the risk of my child getting the polio vaccine but then, you know, could get this vaccine injury. Would I rather take the risk of not getting the polio vaccine? Okay, what could happen if I don't give my child the vaccine and then listing out those pros and cons and then that the, the, the whole thing is, is giving parents informed consent and the ability to make that choice. Don't let the doctors fear monger you and make that choice for you. You make it for your own child. I mean, you would agree with that, right?
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A
Yeah. And I would add two things to that. Even if a parent does just a moniker of research, if they go through some of our vaccine courses that we have available, one of our most popular courses is how to read a package insert. Because if you're not from a medical background, when you try to read a package insert, it can be kind of over overwhelming. So even if you're not willing to do a few of those courses, read even a little bit of the book Turtles all the way down, even if you do just that little bit, I can almost assure you that you're gonna know more about vaccines than your pediatrician was ever taught in medical school. The second thing is that you're right. Everything that you do once you become a parent involves risk. I mean, everything your kid kicking the ball out in the front yard that could go across the street and they could get hit by a car. So it's like risk ratio. And there are some things that you can protect against and some things it's just life. And so you've got to have faith. You got to pray prayers over your kids every single day and have God bless them and protect them, and that includes their health. And I think that really making those decisions about injecting foreign matter and then if I don't, and taking a look, if, you know, if you have any friends in your family or in your, in your world that their kids are unvaccinated, go talk to those parents. Go talk to those parents and tell, ask them, how did you make this decision? How did you come to this point? Is your child been sick since they're not getting any vaccines, do they take chronic daily medications? Do they have an inhaler? And hear what they have to say. Sometimes we forget to, to make these decisions in conjunction with other friends. With other friends and family.
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B
You know what I think is juicy and also a really good family to ask this question to are families of lots of kids where they were vaccinating the older ones and then they stopped vaccinating the younger and then asking them about the health outcome, outcomes of the vaccinated in their own family versus the unvaccinated in their family, because I have friends like that where they had their minds totally changed on vaccines in the middle of having kids. So some kids are vaccinated and some aren't. And the kids that are not vaccinated are always healthier. They don't have eczema, they don't have issues, you know, versus the older kids usually do have all those problems, which I think is interesting.
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A
You know, another book that people might want to look at is a book called Vax Unvax V A X Unvax Colon Let the Science Speak. That's the name of the book, Vax Unvaxed. Let the science speak by Dr. Brian Hooker. It's, it's a phenomenal book. Brian's a good friend of mine and he is, he works for Children's Health Defense and they published this, I believe around 2017 maybe. And he said that was when Secretary Kennedy was just part of Children's Health Defense. And he said Bobby called him one day and said, brian, do you think there's any studies that we can look at out there that really compare the health of vaccinated versus unvaccinated children. He said, I don't know. I'll take a look. And then Brian said, well, this will take me Saturday afternoon, because there aren't any. Well, as it turned out, there's at least 60. They stopped at 60. That really compared the health of completely vaccinated children to completely unvaccinated children. And they crunched all the data and put it in this book. And there's chart after chart after chart after chart of comparing the health of vaccinated children to the health of unvaccinated children. And the unvaccinated children's health is always better than the vaccinated by 1.5 to 5 or 6 times. They're more healthy. And they've not. They've looked at like asthma. They looked at Guillain Barre. They looked at seizures disorders. They looked at a lot of conditions. Brian told me, he said, when I. When we, we created this book, we created it as a manual that parents can take this in and show their pediatrician and say, look, look at. These are color graphs. One's yellow, one's green. And it shows you all the way through that the unvaccinated children are so much healthier than the vaccinated children.
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B
Do you think that it is critical for a parent who is not gonna vaccinate to have a pediatrician so that there is medical records, or do you think you don't necessarily need a pediatrician?
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A
I think that all babies when they're first born with somewhere within the first couple of weeks at life life should be evaluated, preferably by a holistic pediatrician, but at least by a pediatrician to make sure they don't have congenital hip dysplasia, they don't have any congenital heart disease that's going on, that they don't have any overt neurological things. They need to be evaluated by somebody that knows how to examine a newborn baby. Then after that, they don't need to see a pediatrician. They need to have a healthcare provider that knows how to take care of their child if they get a fever, if they, if they, if they're vomiting, if they need something like that, which could be a naturopath, a nurse practitioner, could be a holistic chiropractor that take.
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B
Care of lots of kids, those chiropractors baby.
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A
So they need to have a health care provider, but it doesn't have to be a pediatrician.
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B
Yeah, I know the New York Times is going to love that line. Alex Clark is saying to go to a chiropractor instead of a pediatrician. They don't understand. There are reports now of healthy kids dropping dead. They've gotten the COVID vaccine. They're athletes on the field. Is this an epidemic that we're seeing? What's going on here?
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It's an epidemic. I mean, the number of the, the died suddenly really happens. And it's still happening, you know, years after the last, after the final Covid shot that they had, because the, the lipid nanoparticles and the spike proteins and other things that may be in there that we don't even know cause inflammation of the heart with the myocarditis, the pericarditis. There's also inflammation of the pancreas leading to diabetes. There is a huge uptick in the amount of renal failure, chronic renal disease that we've seen from the COVID shots that nobody's really talking about. But it's out there. It's published data. We know that there's huge studies. There was a big study that came out of South Korea that did an evaluation of 22 million people that, that lived in Seoul and Itcheon in those areas that had had at least one Covid shot, somewhere between one and, you know, usually two shots. And a booster is what they call considered vaccinated, but they even included people that only had one shot. And there was a huge uptick in dementia and in memory loss and not thinking as clearly and early onset Alzheimer's. So this is. These shots are an absolute disaster. They're the biggest crime against humanity that's ever been committed. Think about this. It was released as an eua, as an Emergency Utilization Authorization, which means it came to market without any of the long term studies, with any of the long term trials, without knowing what the side effects and complications were, at least that they were willing to admit. Pfizer wanted to maintain their records away from the American public for 75 years. And it was taken to court and the judge said, wait a minute. You know, you want to wait till everybody involved with this is dead before you bring forth the information that shows what the problems were? Well, the first paper that they released was a 38 page paper. The last eight pages of that paper listed more than 1200 disease side effects and conditions that they knew that the COVID job could be associated with and never released anybody. To this very day, when people say things to me like, do you think the COVID shot could cause X? Fill in the blank, I would say yes, because if there were 1200 conditions that they knew before they even released it to the public. Your symptom is going to fall in there somewhere or your symptom is going to be related to one of the things that fall in there. So the, the long term side effects and complications. They had no idea, the whole idea that the, that the lipid nanoparticles collected into ovaries and testicles. They weren't talking about that. They said, remember at the beginning they said, said, oh, when you get this shot, it just stays in your arm. And the meth and the, and the messenger RNA only replicates for a couple of days. And we've known both of those things to be complete lies. It's not true at all.
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B
I think what's going on is that these are all being reported by local news, these cases of kids dying on the field. But national news, legacy media is ignoring it because they're all funded by pharma, so they're ignoring these stories. But if you look into local news in all these states, you're seeing these stories of these, these kid athletes that are dying.
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Ed Dowd's book died suddenly. His whole book is about that. Oh, you know, Ed Dowd has, you probably know who Ed is. He's a former BlackRock analyst. So he analyzes all this data and he looks at analysts in terms of chronic disabilities and the, the number of deaths that are going up. He's used actuarial data and the numbers just continue to rise. Even though the, the uptake of more boosters is less than 10%, it's still all of these people who had been, who'd been given those jabs two, three years ago that they're still dying and becoming disabled. And some of them are chronically sick still able to work, not totally disabled, but they fall into this category of, of claiming disability benefits. And his whole book has shows picture after picture after picture of local events. And there's actually a QR code in the book that you can go to. The QR code that takes you to the local newspaper that was talking about the deaths of the, these young kids that were just dropping over dead. And the other problem that we're seeing with the, with young kids that have been Covid jabbed is now the turbo cancers. You know, before COVID turbo cancer wasn't even in the language of physicians. There was no such a thing really. Or it happened so rarely it wasn't even talked about. Now it's just common language. And the reason they call it turbo cancers is because from the time it's diagnosed until the time the person dies can be months, weeks and sometimes even days. And we are seeing cancers in younger and younger children that we generally only saw in adults. Cancers like prostate cancer and breast cancer and colon cancer and like 8 year old kids. What? Yeah. And pancreatic cancer in like teenagers that were gen. Those cancers were generally diseases of people in their 40s, 50s and older. And we're seeing these cancers in these young kids that have gotten the COVID jabs.
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B
People are noticing that Gen Z is aging like milk. Does the COVID vaccine have something to do with that?
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A
I've never heard aging like milk.
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B
It's like there's literal headlines like why is Gen Z aging like milk? Like they look old.
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A
It could be that they are the most vaccinated kids ever. If their parents gave them all the vaccines on the schedule. They're loaded up with, with aluminum. They still had some of the vaccines that like flu shots that still had mercury in them. They are exposed to all the crappy food, all the, you know, the food additives and so their health isn't good. They're addicted to their cell phones, so they're not getting out, getting sunshine and fresh air and exercise. It could be a combination of things, could be worry. A lot of kids in that generation are looking at their future and going, how am I ever going to survive this? You know, I go to college and get hundreds of thousand dollars in debt. I even go to medical school and get more hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt. I can't get a good paying job because now they're eliminating the jobs with AI and robots. Am I always going to live in the basement with my parents? Am I ever going to be able to get married and start a family and have a house on my own? I have friends that have kids that are teenagers, early 20s and that's what they talk about. It's like, what does the future look like for me?
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B
How reliable is vaccine safety data for pregnancy? So when they're telling pregnant moms, you need to get a vaccine, moms these.
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A
Days get four shots, sometimes five. They get a flu shot, they get a pertussis shot. They were getting Covid shots. And some obstetricians still want to give them Covid shots. They're now getting RSV vaccines and if they're RH negative, they'll get one or two RhoGam shots. And I'm old enough to remember back in the day that moms couldn't do anything. They couldn't take an antihistamine, couldn't drink a glass of wine, couldn't eat tuna fish because there might be mercury in them. I mean, if you were sick as a pregnant woman, you just had to tough it out because there was. We were not giving you anything that might expose that baby. And now we're giving vaccines and drugs and all sorts of things to these moms. The pertussis vaccine information, I know really, really well they never did any studies. There's no studies at all on safety in pregnant women. And there is zero studies that were done. Because now, beginning in about 2014 or 15, they're now recommending a pertussis vaccine for every pregnancy. Every pregnancy. And there's no safety studies on any of that. Any of that has ever been done. The flu shots are. I did a crunch on the data, Alex, of over the last 20 years. Every year the CDC has about 120 testing centers out there there for influenza season. So if you have a runny nose, cough, fever, chills, that you can go into one of these centers, they'll swab your note, swab your throat, put it in a test tube, and send it to the CDC to be evaluated. Well, as that test tube comes in the door, the first thing that happens is they test it to see is is your illness that you're having caused by a flu, a flu virus or something else? That's the first distinction. Then if it's caused by a flu virus, they subtype it it. And that's where we see the information in the news that says it was a good match or a poor match, or it only matched 20 times that they tested off of those things to see if the viruses that they test for are the ones, the same strains that they have in the flu shots. Well, as they come down in that beginning and they go through that first step, is that is your illness caused by influenza viruses or something else over a 20 year period that I test, I crunch their data. Because the one thing the government is really good at is data entry. It makes great tables. They have data entry for everywhere. And they test about 600,000 of these swabs per year. So the sample size is really big. In that first distinction, 86% of the time, it's something else. Only 14% of the time, if you get sick during flu season, is your illness caused by an influenza virus. Which means if you choose to get a flu shot, it will protect you maybe 14% of the time.
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B
So what you're saying is the flu shot is a scam.
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A
It doesn't do anything except make you sick. It's really not necessary.
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B
It increases inflammation.
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A
Increases inflammation. And up until recently, up until Secretary Kennedy took all the mercury out of the flu shots, which was this year, every year. If you got a multi dose flu shot, you got doses of mercury every year from that flu vaccine. And it doesn't even keep you from getting sick.
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B
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A
The heavy metal detox, we've been using a product for the last five years. It's called Pure Body Extra. It's on our website. It's a spray. It's a zeolite spray. Now, zeolite acts like a little basket that scoops up the microplastics and aluminum and mercury and cadmium and all the metals in your body. And I explain it to people. It's like, you know, you used to play with those, those Chinese finger toys that you'd put them on and you can't get them off. Off. Well, that's what happens with this particular zeolite product. It scoops up the microplastics, organic pollutants, all of the metals that you're exposed to, and detoxes them and takes them out through your liver and through your kidneys. We've been using this for more than five years. We've got thousands of testimonies about how it changed the life of their kids as soon as they started using it. It's completely safe. You can take it when you're pregnant, you can take it when you're nursing. You can even give it to your little babies right after they're born. I give it to my dog, which is my little love of my life. Because he's a little flat nosed Japanese chin. So he's out snuffing the grass all the time.
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B
Yeah, I have a Pekingese.
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A
Okay. Yeah, yeah. So you know, you want to detox them too. Yeah. Because all the stuff that's flying out of the air and I just spray a few little squirts in his in the morning.
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B
So it's a zeolite spray?
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A
It's a zeolite spray. It's called Pure Body Extra. They can get it from our website. If you go to prime.dr. tenpenny.com you can see it that it's there.
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B
Okay. We'll put it in the show notes.
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A
It's a really effective and it's so safe and it doesn't have any flavor, doesn't have any taste. We have kids that were autistic and non verbal and within a couple of weeks they started to speak, you know, they started to make noises and started to make speech because they were getting the metals, the aluminum and stuff out of their bodies.
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B
So how often do you do that?
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A
You do two sprays once or twice a day. That's it.
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B
For how long?
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A
When are you going to stop living in a toxic world?
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B
Yeah. So do you do it every day like it's part of your supplement routine? Okay, that's what I have.
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A
It comes in a little bottle about like this. It sits by my computer, which is where I live my life when I'm at home. And I just take a couple of sprays every day, you know, just to. And then there's another bottle that I have that sits in the kitchen next to my dog's water bowl. So I make sure I remember to give it to him. And so, you know, that really helps. Another thing that really, really helps is, is homeopathy. Homeopathy really helps to neutralize a lot of the acid adverse resonant energy effects from the vaccines.
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B
How risky is measles for kids today? Because we're being told this is like we're on the brink of catastrophic affairs here.
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A
The measles vaccine came out in 1963, the year before the measles vaccine was released. In 1962, the death rate from, from measles was two in a million. So it was not even deadly before we had a vaccine. So you have to look at what is measles. Measles is a fever, a cough, a rash, sometimes some diarrhea, has runny eyes and runny nose, the real high fever that most kids get. Measles in about age 9 helps to burn off any residual proteins that you have in your body from your mother. And it locks in the basement membranes of determining differentiating between self versus non self. Like my self stuff, I don't have to attack. This non self stuff is foreign. I need to get rid of it. It. So the high fever was always there for a good reason. We know that people who have had natural measles have a lower risk of brain tumors. That's been proven. We know that they have a lower risk of renal disease. And so this whole thing about measles is just a scare tactic to push vaccination.
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B
So when they're saying there's kids that are dying, I mean, just this year from measles, what's your response?
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A
What is their underlying health condition, the reason that the high fever or whatever was happening to them, you know, the thing that ends up happening is that we play to the lowest common denominator in all of this stuff, Alex. I mean, if there's four kids that die a year from diphtheria, well, we better vaccinate all of them because your kid might be that kid. Or if there's 1100 kids maybe per year that die from chickenpox because they have an underlying autoimmune disease or have some other thing that's going on, it's like, well, we've got a vaccinated 4 million kids a year for chickenpox because your kid might die from chickenpox. You know, one of the things that the pharmaceutical industry has learned to do very well is learned how to weaponize fear and, and to impregnate stats into young parents brains that have no relativity to their child whatsoever.
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B
Why do our laws protect vaccine companies instead of kids? And how can we start pressuring lawmakers to change that?
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A
Well, the 1986 act that was passed, the National Vaccine Childhood Injury Compensation act, gave the pharmaceutical industry complete liability for every vaccine that is on the pediatric schedule. Now, I've tried several times to put myself in the position of being a person in Congress in 1985, before they passed that law to give the pharmaceutical industry complete liability protection. Because the pharmaceutical industry was pressuring Reagan and pressuring the rest of Congress saying vaccination is the cornerstone of our public health health program. And until you protect us from being sued from this, we're just gonna not make vaccines anymore. And then when these kids die from all these vaccines, it's gonna be on your head. That was what the conversation was. So I'm sure there was some discussion about, well, we can protect the pharmaceutical industry from These three vaccines that were on the market at the time, mmr, DPT and polio, they would, they could do that. But in exchange for that, the pharmaceutical industry was supposed to give a report through the Secretary of Health and Human Services every two years demonstrating what they were doing to try to make the vaccines more safe and more effective.
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B
And when was the last time that data was collected?
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A
They've never submitted one since 1986, not one at all, except. But then after 1986, they started the big ramp up of the schedule. Hepatitis B started in 91 and the Hib vaccine started in 91. Chickenpox started in 95. The Prevnar vaccine came in 2007. 2006 was Gardasil, and it just kept going from there. And there's charts now that show that every time a new vaccine was put into the schedule, that at that point there was another ramp up of autism, and at that point there was another ramp up of autism. There's really thorough charts that have been done from that. That. And so they are totally protected. And I'm sure that the people that were in Congress in 1985 were not. Didn't have any premonition that this was going to happen. They had no idea that they had just opened the barn door and all the horses were going to run out once they gave them complete liability protection. It's one of the reasons why the flu shot got put on the pediatric schedule in 2004, because I'm sure they went, we're giving flu shots to everybody and it's not protected. And we can get some sued from this. Oh, we know, let's start giving it to babies. So now they give flu shots to babies starting at 6 months of age and every year of their life thereafter. And so all of those kids have gotten doses of mercury from the flu shots and they've gotten tons of aluminum. If you get all the shots on the schedule, by the time you're 18 years of age, you'll have almost 12,000 micrograms of aluminum injected into your body that's stored in your brain, your kidney, your liver and your bones. What can we do about it? Well, there are two bills that have been introduced in Congress right now. One is to repeal the 1986 act, and the other is to repeal the PREP Act. And I talk about the PREP Act a lot in my book. My book is called Zero Accountability in a Failed How Big Pharma Weaponized Vaccines, Public Health and the Law. And the law from the PREP Act Protected every. All things Covid from Anybody being sued over all of that. And the people that were damaged from the COVID vaccine have gotten all thrown underneath the bus. And we'll never get any kind of compensation because the PREP act prohibited funding of an injury compensation program to people injured by a countermeasure that was used during a pandemic.
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B
So right now, should we be picking up the phone and calling our Congress people and saying something?
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A
You'll have to look up these, what these bill numbers are and put in the show notes, because I know them off the top of my head. That's fine. But there's two bills right now. Both were introduced by, by Congressman Massie. One is to repeal the 1986 act, and the other is to repeal the 2005 PREP Act. If all of your audience and all of my audience and all the rest of the people in America would start calling Congress and saying, and getting behind Secretary Massie, well, you know, we'll put the, the number of those bills in the show notes and saying, we want this to cut. Get out of committee and move into full Congress. This has to stop. We have to make the pharmaceutical industry liable for their faulty, dirty products. Think about it, Alex. There isn't another industry in America, in the world, that if they create a faulty product and it kills people, that they have no liability for it. I mean, all of, all of us have heard hundreds of car recalls because a light goes off or because, you know, they think that something might happen, happen there or somebody gets sued because of a faulty product. The pharmaceutical industry has a free lunch from the time your child is born until the time that you die as an adult because none of those products can be sued.
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B
Yeah, we have to change that. I, I know that you guys are capable of calling up your congressmen, Congresswomen and, and demanding answers and asking them to support these bills. For sure, we can do that. Where can people follow your work and take your courses if they want to get educated on vaccines?
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A
Well, we started a membership this last year because we want people, parents, everybody, to take responsibility for their lives and take responsibility for their health and take their power back. And the only way you can really do that is you know something about your body. You know, we know less about our body than we do about our car or house or our, our motorcycle. And so we started a membership so that every month we've been going through different organ systems in the body, body and explaining what they are. And then at the end of the month, we have a master class where I invite an expert to come in an Open forum, question and answer about cardiovascular health, dental health, GI health and things like that.
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B
What a cool course for your homeschool high schoolers to take too.
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A
Yeah, it's really super good. And we also have a whole bunch of vaccine courses like I said before about how to read a package insert. We have all the pediatric vaccine schedule that are in there that parents become. Because as much as you and I could talk for hours and hours I'm sure, but it's still just the skim across the top of what parents really need to know. So if you go to prime.Dr.tenpenny.comprime.drtenpenny.com, you'll see about our courses and about our products and everything that's there. And there's a great menu. People can pick and choose what they want. If they want to follow me on X. I mean that's where we do both of our posting is on X. X. I'm at busy Dr. T. It really kind of fits me at busy Dr. T. We also have a few Instagram channels but primarily we post on X. I do two substacks a week. On Saturday I produce one. It's called Eye on the Evidence which is medical or current event related. It's called and you can find that@Dr.tenpenny.substack.com and then on Sunday I do a spiritual sub stack every week to really encourage people in their faith and then they're in getting closer with their walk with God. Awesome. It's called Tenpenny walk with God. God.substack.com we love substack.
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B
If you could offer one remedy to heal a sick culture, it could be physically, emotionally or spiritually, what would it be?
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A
Once you get your life aligned with God and you start digging into the Bible and you start seeing what God encourages you to do and how to live your life. So many of these other things just fall in line.
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B
You are a legend. Dr. Tempenny. It is so great to get to interview you've. Been wanting to interview you for so long. Yeah, I could have done a way longer episode. We'll have to have you back back. This was fantastic. Thank you so much. We have not really covered vitamin K that much. We haven't talked about the flu shot. The circumcision part of this convo was incredible. So we just appreciate you and thank you for all of your work. You've been doing this longer than anybody. So you are Maha before Maha and we greatly appreciate you. I hope you know it.
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A
Oh thank you so much. Thank you for having me. I appreciate being here.
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B
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