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Why You’re Still Fat Doing Everything “Right” | Dr. Daniel Pompa
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Alex Clark
What happens when you put perfume on your neck?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
You have so much blood flow, lymphatic channels right here. It goes right in fragrance, they just use massive amounts of chemicals in the hormone disrupting chemicals going directly into your lymphatic system, directly into your blood system. Crossing the blood brain barrier, you're breathing it into your nose, into your lungs, into the bloodstream. If you want to toxify yourself, you know the fastest, just keep wearing that cologne in perfume.
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Alex Clark
Why should women not get eyelash extensions?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
The glue just gets into your system. And formaldehyde, other chemicals, hormone disrupting chemicals. And I'm not kidding, a woman who worked for me, she actually got just some soap in her eye and it emulsified it. She lost her vision. A lot of toxicity being brought into the eyes is bad. Why? Because it goes right into the brain.
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Alex Clark
Eating less can actually make you fatter. Fasting can heal your body or completely backfire. And most people are doing it wrong. What happens when you're doing everything right? Quote unquote, but somehow you feel worse, you're more tired, you're more inflamed, and in a lot of cases, you're gaining weight, not losing it. Dr. Daniel Pompa says that is exactly why people are stuck. He's a chiropractor turned cell health expert, author of the Cellular Healing Diet and Beyond Fasting, and a guy who built his entire career off one idea. If you don't fix the cell, nothing else works. But what makes him different isn't just what he teaches. It's how he got here. Crippling health issues, family tragedy, legal battles. He calls it pain to purpose, to promise. And now he's on some of the biggest stages in natural health. He's advising on the maha movement and he's helping everyone from everyday families to elite biohackers. Today we're getting into all of it fun fasting, how to wean off oic detoxes, and what's really going on with eyelash glue and self tanner. You can watch this episode on the real Alex Clark YouTube channel or culture Apothecary on Spotify and check out his interview of me on the Dr. Pompa podcast. He asked me all kinds of super spicy stuff, from the drama at Turning Point USA to my own health journey. A lot of stuff that I don't talk a lot about. So you're going to want to check that out. Please welcome Dr. Daniel Pompa to Culture Apothecary. I told you this when I first met you, but I have to Tell the audience I bought the coolest thing because of Dr. Pompa. And you just posted this silly Instagram reel. You're like, look at this cool thing my wife made me buy.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I think it has 8 million views, by the way.
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Alex Clark
So cool. So he has this sticky. It's almost like duct tape mat outside of his front door or inside your front door. And so when people come to your home, they don't have to take their shoes off to walk around your house. They just walk on the sticky mat. And it basically, like suctions off all the dirt and scum off people's shoes.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
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Alex Clark
So that they can walk around. I thought this was the most genius thing ever. And it's made by that company, Uline or whatever. So it's not a sponsor. They're like. They make, like, these. These tissues are Uline brand. They, like, make stuff for stuff.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Offices.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, you know who use it? Studios use them because they don't want to mess up their white screens and green screens.
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Alex Clark
Yeah, that's what it said. It was like something that you walk on before you go on a studio set to get stuff off your shoes. And then you and your wife like, let's do this for our friend.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Let me be clear. So people don't think I'm like, that weird. Okay?
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Alex Clark
I don't think it's weird. I think it's amazing.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay. But it's not always in my house. Right. Like, so was here. Was this a true story? So what happened was, is we take our shoes off going in your house. And by the way, that's not a weird thing. You should, because if you see what's on the. If I test it, I always say if you could show somebody something, they'd be like, I'll never wear my own shoes again. If you tested what's on the bottom of your shoe, forget about all the weird pathogens, but pesticides, petrochemicals, you would not believe what's there. And then that builds up in your home, and it's one of the most toxic things you can do to your home. Always take off your shoes. Okay. Start there. So we are having a party. And of course, I'm like, well, you know something. I said something about people having to take the shoes off. Oh. I said, my assistant should be at the front door making sure everyone takes their shoes off. Because I don't want to tell people that. She's like, what? Like, you can't make a woman take her heels off. Okay. At a party.
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Alex Clark
It could ruin her outfit.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So of Course my next comment was, well, why not? You know, that didn't go well. So then I'm like, I'm gonna lose this fight. Fight. Right. Because my wife's gonna have her heels on, then everyone else's are off. Okay, that's not gonna go well. So then it would became. My brain goes into solution mode. Of course, when I go into these studios, they have these things. That's where it started. And I. I don't know. I have no connection to that company either. Right. I just found one that studios use and it's a great solution.
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Alex Clark
It's a great solution. So anyway, that's random, but it's on his. His page and it's. Yeah, like you said, it's got millions of views anyway, it wasn't expensive at all. And then, you know, after it gets unsticky because so many people walked on it. Yep. You just tear it off like paper. And then it' sticky sheet. Anyway, I had to bring that up. I think my audience would find it fun. You only bring it out for party so you don't go through it too fast. I just have it out all the time.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, exactly. And that's probably even a really good idea. But see, my wife wouldn't allow that either. Like, you know, there's things sitting there.
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Alex Clark
But what's weird is in America, we don't take our shoes off in other people's homes, which I think is so rude and gross. In Asian countries, that's. I mean, you are taking your shoes off.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Absolutely.
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Alex Clark
It's very important. But I don't know why we don't do that in America.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
If they do it for a toxic reason, a gross reason, or is there a cultural reason? I have no idea.
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Alex Clark
We have no idea. Somebody has to tell us in the comments if you're Asian.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Did you.
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Alex Clark
You get into the health space because you are smart or because you are sick?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I do say it this way. I didn't choose it. God chose me for it. God used me. Honored to be used. But put this dyslexic mind to use. And I brought a lot of things together for, I believe, for such a time as this. Meaning I went through everything as a dyslexic insecurity. I got very sick in 1999, which, that's another story. But, you know, God used my dyslexia. So dumb was the label false identity. My true identity was the exact opposite of that. But again, I didn't choose it.
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Alex Clark
So. And then what were you battling? I mean, that led you into the
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
holistic health space as a chiropractor at that time. I say at that time because I don't carry my license on anymore. I got very sick in 1999, 2000, 2001, 2, 3, 4. And like many people, it started just with general fatigue. Then it went to anxiety, Then it went to weird brain fog, Then it went to gut problems, Then it went to like sound sensitivity, uncontrollable anger that I never had before. I became literally someone that I wasn't. My wife would literally oftentimes have to take the kids out of the house because I just couldn't handle crying babies and weird. I had two young boys at that time. So life as I knew it came to a screeching halt. I was trying to work, but I could barely have enough energy. I'd have to lay down in between patients. And I was very embarrassed, honestly about it. So I didn't tell my family. People around me knew something wasn't right, but I was trying to minimize it. And meanwhile, the whole time looking for an answer. Fast forward everything. I discovered what God led me to, honestly, is what I've been teaching doctors for 20 years and now bringing answers to people looking for answers. I mean, autoimmune, weird things like when, say, fatigue, anxiety, gut problems, brain fog. I mean, this is now. When I was going through it, it wasn't that common. Today it's so common, it's become almost normal.
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Alex Clark
So what in the world was causing your issues?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Neurotoxic illness. What does that mean? Certain toxins known as neurotoxins are so nasty that they make their way into your nerve system. The biggest one, the biggest nerve, and most important is your brain. But even every nerve throughout your body, it makes its way into the fatty membranes, the fatty cells of the nerve system. Hence the word neurotoxin. So I had neurotoxic mediated illness, which was never a diagnosis given to me. Matter of fact, quite the opposite. I was given, like, everything. But you're crazy in your head. Yeah, you know, like most people. And the Internet wasn't what it was, you know, then it was, you know, barely. I would literally go into the library and, you know, people my age remember microfiche, right? And you'd find I'd go into bookstores. I was just like most people, looking for an answer. Like most people, I was chasing my thyroid because I had every symptom of thyroid. My hair was thinning. I was like, that's weird. I was blaming my wife. But the hair in the drain was mine. As it turned out, I was losing my hair. I had just bizarre things. I wouldn't heal normally. I'd get a cut. It'd get infected. And of course, you think it's this. You think it's that food intolerance, chasing all the digestive stuff. Like, most people tried every diet. Diet helped some, But I still wasn't well. I started getting skinny fat, meaning I was losing muscle and getting fat I never had. Despite eating absolutely perfect. I couldn't even tolerate exercise anymore. I would exercise and be more fatigued. But I was chasing the thyroid, chasing my adrenals. Believe me, my thyroid. Even though my blood work was normal, my thyroid was malfunctioning. I definitely had, you know, thyroid dysfunction. I definitely had adrenal fatigue. But none of that was really why I was sick. It was in a response to what was going on. After, like, two years of really chasing that stuff, a very bright endocrinologist said to me one day, hey, Dan, I think you have mercury toxicity. And I said, oh, yeah, I thought so too. Cause online in my searches, I found Mad Hatter's disease. Do you know what that is?
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Alex Clark
No, what is it?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
People making felt hats. They were using mercury as a part of the process and oftentimes even lead. But they became known as mad hatters. I had every symptom that a mad Hatter had, like the Alice in Wonderland.
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Alex Clark
Oh, yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So anyway, I had all those symptoms, so I thought, I'm a mad hatter. And then I went to Allegheny General Hospital in Pittsburgh. That's where I lived at the time. And I got. I went to the head of toxicology. I got almost $5,000 worth of blood work. I know the number because we didn't have insurance, and I had to pay for it. And it was a lot of. That was a bad day because the test came back, including my thyroid, including the mercury test, normal. So that diagnosis that day was, son, you're healthier than me. So he tried to put me on a psychotropic drug. That's a drug that you would get put on if you have anxiety, depression, or they think you're crazy in any fashion. Here you go. I ended up leaving there searching for another answer. Here I am, a year or so later, he tells me, mercury poisoning. I'm like, no. He said, I did a test. I did a blood test. Came back normal. Wrong test. Challenge it out of your tissue and see what comes out. And that's still not a reflection of what's trapped in your brain. You'd have to do a Biopsy to see that. Who's going to do that? But so I did the challenge test, and then I saw, you know, then I was like, oh, okay. I not only had some high mercury, but I had a high lead. I had high.
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Alex Clark
What was this coming from? Did you have stuff in your mouth?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So that was the next question. I asked, where do you think this happened? After the tests came back positive, he said, did you get any dental work done around the time this happened? And I said, maybe I had a gold crown put on. I know, because a filling was old. And my good friend at that time, we went to high school together, replaced that silver amalgam filling, which, by the way, contained 50% mercury.
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Alex Clark
Oh, wow.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Drilled out, as it turned out, days later, is when just general fatigue didn't feel well. Symptoms started, and then it was like anxiety. Then it was, you know, then the gut went, then this, then that. But it all came back to that dental work. So now imagine I still had probably six silver amalgam fillings in my mouth, still putting off mercury vapor. But that day, you have to understand also what happened. He took out the old filling. He put a gold crown on. So when you put two opposing metals, meaning two different metals in your mouth.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Something happens called galvanism. And what that means is you have an electrical current in your mouth.
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Alex Clark
Oh, my gosh.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
That electrical current causes your brain to not like it. Your brain doesn't like metal in the mouth, period. But that galvanism is really bad. And then it makes the mercury and the other feelings come out even faster. So that was a tipping point for me.
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Alex Clark
So basically, you found out that there is a root cause to everything. You just got to get to the bottom of it.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
That's absolutely my part of my passion right there.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Because I believe the problem with medicine in general is we cover symptoms, but that that system is good for acute care. You know, regular medicine. There's a time and a place. But I think I'm even more, you know, I. I have more of an issue, I would say, with alternative medicine that now has moved to very expensive testing, doing this, doing that, people leaving with bags of supplements, as opposed to what is the actual cause? We're missing that. We're missing the fact that people are not getting to the cause. Even in alternative medicine, there's a cause to why people are so sick today. There's a cause to weight loss, resistance. There's a cause to anxiety. There's a cause to the increases in depression, autism. My brain works from cause down in my Philosophy, and I would think everybody's was remove the interference. God designed our bodies in a way. If we remove the interference, they will heal. But the question is, what is actually interfering with? Why isn't your body healing? That's the question people should be asking. You don't lack a pill. There's a appropriate time for a drug. But the fact is there's something causing your own immune system to attack itself. There's something causing your thyroid condition. Why do we see so many thyroid conditions? It exploded in the last 20 years. What's happened? What all these autoimmune in children now, I hope everyone would realize there's a reason for that. And if we get to that reason now, we can make a lasting change.
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Alex Clark
So let's start here because people really look to you for fasting advice. And so I was excited to kind of COVID a little bit of fasting on this show. I've been asked a lot about it. I haven't really had anybody speak to it. Why does eating less make you fatter?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. So I was saying, don't eat less, eat less often, you know, don't eat less. Because I think for years we've been taught it's as simple as reducing your calories, right? You gluttonous pigs just eat less. That's the message that we're told, right? And oh, and exercise more. Because not only you a gluttonous pig, you're lazy too, on top of it. I mean, literally. That's the message that has been, you know, given to years. If we would, we Americans would just, you know, move more, eat less, right? You know, and there some truth to this, but really the question becomes, why are we eating more? Could it be that something is broken in the very system again that God brilliantly put in place that stops you from eating more, going, oh, yeah, I'm not hungry anymore. Right? It's like, well, what if that's broken and you can't stop eating more? Oh, what if there's a reason why you don't want to exercise anymore because you don't have enough cellular energy to exercise. Oh, and by the way, when you do exercise, you don't lose weight anyway. What if there's something broken? Well, that's exactly what's going on. So it's not your fault. And I say that honestly when I tell people it's not your fault. That thing that I just said, that's broken. Again, talking about toxins. Toxins are the number one thing that disrupt that. We can get back to that because Your question was really about fasting. But, you know, so fasting is a way to re regulate that system. Fasting is a way to harness that innate intelligence that God put in all of us to drive it and start healing. And fasting is what our ancestors were forced to do at times, and I believe we're genetically designed to do. But fasting now is something that we have to be taught because there's food around us 24 7.
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Alex Clark
So why is it that you would put on weight when you eat less?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
When you eat less, everyone here would say, oh, hold on, wait, Dr. Obama, I know caloric restriction works because when I reduce my calories, I lose weight. Sure you do. Of course you do. So you can't say caloric restriction doesn't cause weight loss. It does. But here's the problem.
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Alex Clark
Problem.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's temporary. Because what happens is once you reduce calories, meaning you, you eat, and you so want to eat the rest of that plate, but you don't, because you're really going to stick to the diet this time. You push it away and you do it again. Now you're really disciplined. What happens? Eventually your body goes, I'm starving. And it goes into a starvation mode. The number one thing that your body wants to do is save your life. So to save your life, because it goes, we're starving, it slows metabolism to even hold on to your fat cells. Why? Because what is fat? Fat is a storage of energy for later when it needs it. So what it does is it wants to hold on to that fat because it knows I don't know how long this is going to go, this starvation time that we're in. So I'm going to hold on to that. So it starts to actually slow your metabolism. It will literally keep your. It will cause something called hormone resistance, meaning your innate intelligence will blunt your cells to hearing hormones that you need to lose weight. Insulin. It'll create insulin resistance, literally. And then your body starts storing fat. It'll create something called lesbian resistance, where you can't control your appetite. I mean, all these things your body will do to stay alive, but. So caloric restriction now works against you. Does that make sense?
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Alex Clark
Yes. Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay.
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Alex Clark
I met a guy once, true story. Who ate only rotisserie chicken from the grocery store. That was his entire personality. Breakfast, chicken, lunch, chicken, dinner chicken. Well, just emotionally darker chicken, maybe. And he kept saying, I don't understand why I feel so terrible. And I'm like, yeah, because you've turned your body into a haunted rotisserie display. And also with that frequency, you're probably 40 microplastics. No one is talking about that. You eat enough grocery store rotisserie chicken, you become the container. This is a problem. People are just guessing, guessing with their health, guessing with supplements, guessing with diets. You're just throwing magnesium, probiotics, whatever tick tock told you, hoping something sticks. Meanwhile, your body is like, we have no leadership. This is a failed state. This is why Jevity exists. Jevity was created to make health optimization simple, personalized, and actually based in reality. Not trends, not whatever influencer is screaming about cortisol this week. Okay. The founder built this after losing his father to something that he believes was largely preventable, which is really dark, but also the most honest reason to build a health company. Because your health is not something you wing. Jevity actually looks inside your body and they figure out what's going on. They give you a picture plan based on your blood, biomarkers, your goals, your life. So they come to your house and they test your blood for over 90 markers and personalized advice on what to take for supplements, a diet plan, anything else that you may need direction on. Right? And there's a lot. So instead of living like the rotisserie chicken man, slowly turning into plastic, you actually need to know what's happening and how to fix it. Use code alex to get 20 off your first purchase@govity.com. so if you do the yearly membership, for example, you will get 20% off that first year. They check your biomarkers twice a year to see how you're improving, and then they tweak. Anything is needed. That is how health care should actually work. That's gonna code Alex for 20% off your first year. Did you know that there are people in America who've had their insurance claims denied because they went to the ER and the hospital coded it non emergency, Like, I'm sorry, you thought that you were dying. The computer just happens to disagree. People are getting bills for thousands because they use the wrong hospital, the wrong doctor, the wrong hallway. You could craw into the building bleeding, and they're like, oh, unfortunately, this was out of network bleeding. Totally normal. Not. We've all just been told this is what you need. This is. This is how it is in America. You have to have health insurance.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
You have to have health insurance. If you don't have health insurance, you have no other option.
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Alex Clark
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
A GLP one can save somebody's life. You have someone that's full blown diabetic, majorly obese, they could die of a heart attack, a stroke, you know, any day. I mean, because they have so many risk factors that have risen, a GLP1 could save that person's life. Am I against GLP1s in that sense? No. GLP1 for the way most people are taking them I believe is a big mistake. So do they work? It's like the caloric restriction conversation. Yes, they work. They will cause weight loss. But what is the weight loss according to studies, not me, that it is fat and muscle in a large portion of muscle. So therefore when people stop GLP1s, what happens is, is they have a four times faster weight gain on the back end. Why would that happen? And that's a Study. I just did an Instagram about it. But the fact is, is why would that happen? Because you've now lost muscle, which helps you control metabolism and therefore your metabolism gets lower from the muscle loss. So now you go off of it and that helps control appetite. It's part of how it works. So it slows your desire to eat food and now your appetite comes back, you've lost muscle, your metabolism is slower, disastrous. That's why it happens. Many people will say this. I feel better. Like, I felt better. It reduced my inflammation because I took the GLP1. Throughout your body, you have GLP1 receptors. You make GLP1 enzyme hormone in your gut. Certain bacteria help you produce it. So the fact is, is that that is the really the problem. So why so many people feel better on GLP1s is once again, they're dealing with the symptom instead of dealing with the cause of all. Why they have all these other problems because they don't have the bacteria. It's called our microbiome, which, by the way, controls immunity, controls how your brain works. All of that is disrupted and now they're just not making enough GLP1. So when they start taking it. So it sounds like an easy, sexy solution. Well, if, then, if I'm not making enough, then I should just take it. But it's not that simple because, see, urinate intelligence that God put there has a balancing mechanism around every hormone in your body. So by forcing, and there's a time and a place, as I pointed out, by taking it, it, you're taking over that very important feedback loop. And it's not as simple as just taking more.
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Alex Clark
So you like it for morbidly obese people to get a head start, but you do not like it for somebody that's like trying to lose £100, let's
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
say, well, £100 a lot. I mean, that our pounds could put you at great risk. I, I don't want to say who, who's it for, but if someone is morbidly obese, at risk for heart attack, stroke and other major, major diseases that could take their life like that, I would argue it could be something that, that absolutely helps them. The problem is, and again, some people are out there shouting this message, right? Doctors on both sides. The problem is, is you, you. It's very difficult to come off of it.
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Alex Clark
Got it? Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Can it be done with resistive training? You know, I mean, all these things going through. Yes, you can. But the average person, it's going to be very difficult.
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Alex Clark
So what Is a good timeline to be on it. If you're somebody that needs to lose a significant amount of weight.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Weight, that depends on the person, you know, and I'm not hedging the question. That's an honest answer. You know, it really does. You know, the person and their. Their whole history. I think when they would get down to a weight, that doesn't put them at great risk. You know, if their blood pressure now is normal, as an example. Right. A lot of these other factors become normal. Then I would say, okay, my thing would be, okay, try to work off of it. And using resistors, you're gonna have to do something to get the muscle back. Right.
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Alex Clark
What should somebody's action plan be to get off ozempic if they've been on it for trial?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Peptides. And again, I can't sit here and recommend anyone take a peptide. Right. I mean, there's a red zone and they're getting tighter on, you know, these. I. Joe rogan's in trouble right now for innocently mentioning his wolverine pack or something like that. It was BPC TB 500 and. And they're great peptides, by the way, so. But he got under some heat with that. The fact is, is that there are some peptides like testamorelin. It sounds like testosterone, it's not, but it helps your own hormones. SS moats. You know, there's some peptides out there and even TB 500 that helps you, you know, especially if you're resistive training, recover some of those peptides could be beneficial. Talk to your practitioner. One of the things that we're going to see here in the near future is the fda is coming after peptides, which, by the way, isn't necessarily a bad thing. A lot of people are buying peptides online at inexpensive prices. And these are made in china. They don't work, some of them. But worse yet, a lot of them are contaminated. They're not regulated. So they're. What's coming is more of a regulation under buying peptides from some practitioner that has a u. S. Source that's actually tested. So we're going to see that change happening. Bobby right now, RFK Jr. He just took 14 out of the 19 peptides that have been like they just. Just are taking them and said, okay, these can be good if they're regulated correctly. So we're seeing a lot of changes right now going on.
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Alex Clark
So is your recommendation for somebody who's trying to wean off of oic to. To work with a practitioner and. And potentially depending on if the practitioner agrees based on their health history. Get on a peptide while you're getting off.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. Resistive training, obviously, I think we're, you know, get on the right diet. It from me, you're going to hear, go to the upstream problem of why you ended up there in the first place. And it's not, as I pointed out earlier, it's not just you eat too much and you exercise too little. We can take blame for that. But I believe that the deeper issue is a hormone problem of why you, you are overeating or trauma. Trauma. Emotional problems of why you are overeating. Right. And then the, you know, the, the trapped emotion that drove that behavior and the upstream toxin that drove the hormone problem. You see how we're not going up high enough. You have to understand certain toxins destroy the receptor to certain hormones that we need to control our appetite and burn fat for energy. Your cells can only use two things for energy, sugar or fat. When you're healthy, at the cellular level level, your body can go back and forth. When you're not eating, it burns fat, like through the night when you're, you know, when you're hungry, it'll give you an appetite. You know, all this works normally. Oh. If you gain too many fat cells, fat cells release a hormone called leptin, and then there's receptors in your hypothalamus, in your brain that it connects to and says, oh, you're not as hungry. See, it's working like GLP1 should, right. You're not as hungry. Oh, and burn your fat for energy. See, it's a system that's in our body naturally, that keeps you lean and keeps you having energy. But what if something interferes with that? What if something's blocking those receptors of that hormone and your brain's not. Those brain cells are not getting the signal. Well, then, guess what? What happens is your body is not now producing. It's not hearing the leptin, right? So your fat cells, you're getting fatter and they're releasing leptin. They're producing more and more leptin in, but the brain doesn't hear it, so you keep getting fatter instead of it's going, okay, burn the fat. So you're not getting the burn the fat part of the energy. Oh, you're not getting the, the part of the, the message that goes, don't eat anymore. So you can't control your appetite. You're not burning fat for energy. It's not your fault. It's a hormone problem. I say all that to say, same thing happens with insulin. We call it insulin resistance, right? Meaning you have plenty of insulin too much because your body's saying, hey, you're not getting the message. Why isn't it getting the message? The receptor on the cell that hears insulin, that it connects to. So now if your cells aren't hearing the hormone, I call it hormone, you know, your cells are deaf to your hormones, but it's really called hormone resistance. So many people have more than insulin resistance, they have estrogen resistance, testosterone resistance, leptin resistance. That's the hormone that tells you to stop eating. So the point is, is toxins drive. They damage the receptors to the hormones at the cell. So it doesn't matter what your blood hormones level. Remember I said I went and took my blood test, my thyroid looked perfect on blood work. My thyroid wasn't working. It wasn't working because I lacked hormone. It wasn't working because my cells were inflamed because of toxins and I wasn't hearing my hormones. That's happening to millions and millions of people, unknowing to them. So now they even go to their alternative doctor and they get put on bioidentical hormones. There's a time and a place to do that, but most often it's toxin induced hormone resistance.
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Alex Clark
And so your suggestion would be then you need to detox the toxins and
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
stop what's coming in half. I mean, the Maha message in my mind right now, make America healthy again is yes, ultra processed foods, right? It's like we have to stop the ultra processed foods. But what is an ultra processed food? It's a food with too many chemicals, a list of ingredients this long. And look, I'm 60 years old. When I grew up, I ate pasta every day. Growing up in Italian family, white bread every day. I ate plenty of processed foods. Why didn't we have any fat kids in my class? Why didn't we have any kids with food allergies? In my class on inhalers, we had none of that. Autistic kids. What changed? Well, we were eating processed food. And I'm not saying we should eat, eat all processed food. We need to eat whole foods. But what I'm saying is, is the difference of the processed food, which we now call ultra processed food, is the list of chemicals that goes with it. So I was eating white bread with three ingredients. Today they're eating three ingredients. Same ingredients with all these things that we can't even read, right? That's the problem. Chronic disease. What has happened in the last 60 years, you've heard Bobby Kennedy say this, right? It's like, what's happened? Why do we have this sore of chronic disease?
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Alex Clark
And I think another way to say exactly what you just said is you were eating processed food, but it was still food. What we're eating now isn't food.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's chemical concoction. Yeah.
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Alex Clark
It's a chemical cocktail that is. It's literally dead, nutrient deficient food. It's not even food.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It can't even call it food. Yeah, you can't even call it food.
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Alex Clark
So I think that's why we're so sick and all these issues. Food.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Now, ethanol is a carrier for toxins that we weren't even exposed to. There's a chemical called glyphosate that's creating the majority of gut problems. It opens up the gut barrier and allows undigested food to cross into your bloodstream. Your body starts making antibodies. That's why we have everyone allergic to all these foods. That's what started the gluten problem. Oh, and also it opens up the blood brain barrier and allows the same things to cross into the brain. Like, this chemical wasn't in food that I grew up on. It's called glyphosate. You hate it. You. I know you hate.
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Alex Clark
I do, yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Because you're marching next week or what, the week after.
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Alex Clark
No, I'm just. I am marching. We are hosting a massive rally. It's going to be the biggest maha rally. I hope you can come on. April 27, 9am, the Supreme Court step. So if you're listening and you're like, important decisions. Yeah, I know. A lot of my audience are homeschool mahomes moms. If you have been hankering to do a Washington D.C. trip, now is the time to do it. 1. You should come to our rally in March. You know, it's. It's going to be really a beautiful, just show of solidarity that we are sick of being poisoned. The rally is literally called people versus poison. But also, I don't know if You've been to D.C. lately, but it is beautiful. Trump has cleaned it up.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's amazing.
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Alex Clark
There's no crime. There's no, like, the homeless people has gone down like, 95. I mean, it's just really a beautiful city. They've done a great job. So it's, like, lovely to walk around. And it's spring in D.C. so you should come at the end of April. But, yeah, so I'm, I'm marching. So, yeah, I'm really passionate. But you know, I love it when somebody else comes on. I can just sit here and go,
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
yeah, I know, exactly. Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Because my audience is like, they hear me say it, but you know, it hits different when somebody, when I interview,
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I interviewed her, right. Which was a great interview, by the way. And I said, I asked the question to you, what is the thing you're most passionate about right now? And you were like, glyphosate. Yeah, well, and let me tell you, pesticides in general. Well, that's right, because see, that's the difference. Look, when we look at the, the explosion of chronic disease in the last 50, 60 years, it is these chemicals. We didn't have glyphosate growing up. That was a, that was a like a late 90 thing in the, you know, 2000s. And by the way, Nancy Swanson, Google it. Find Nancy Swanson graphs every condition from dementia, Alzheimer's, autism. You go down the list. Diabetes. You know, it's not odd or a coincidence, but as those climbed, it climbs perfectly with the usage of glyphosate. And again, I, there's so many other chemicals we could talk about, from Mike, plastics, you know, to forever chemicals, heavy metals. I mean, this generation is the first generation to not outlive their parents. You know, it's, this is what's happened since 1970. Cancer in children has risen 67%. Genetics hasn't changed. We have the same hard drive, we have the same genetics. What changed is the chemical. You know, it's like they don't have cancer or this autoimmune disease because they were unlucky, that they got a set of bad genes. No, we can inherit a set of genes with predispositions. We all do, by the way. We all have them, but it's the chemicals that are turning on the genes. So the, the genes are the gun pointing to your head, perhaps. And we all have them. But what's pulling the trigger bigger?
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Alex Clark
We're inundated by toxins from the food we eat to the chemicals in our environment, the chemicals in our body care products. What are we doing to detox? What is the best detox protocol to get a clean slate and start over on your health journey?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's not what people think. Right. Oftentimes. Right. Because I think in our space, in the health space right now, detox is very, it's very in vogue. They walk out with a box of a 10 day cleanse and they do the 10 day cleanse and they think that's going to be detox. Look, think about this logically where did this start? It started from the womb. If you look, my issue was my accumulation of mercury and I was also living in a low grade moldy home. So if I look at all of this, where mine started, my mother had a mouthful of amalgams. There's a study called the Drash study. It's a German study that showed the number of silver fillings mom had was, is proportional to how much mercury was in the baby's brain in utero. How accurate was that? Very accurate, because it was, it was in deceased infants that they were actually doing autopsies on. So that was autopsy, where they were looking at the brain. Exact proportion, how many fillings, how much mercury. That mercury in those fillings that made me sick, it vaporizes, crosses the brain. Now hold on, in this generation of kids, it's even worse because remember, glyphosate opens up the brain. Stephanie Seneff did a 2012 study showing that glyphosate is making us more vulnerable to the very toxins we already have in us, allowing them to cross deeper in the brain. She believes that it's leading to the dementia, the Alzheimer's, I mean, part of the autism problem, I mean all of it. Glyphosate becomes this magnet, creating this perfect storm and allowing these toxins to go deeper into our brain, our nerve tissue. No wonder this generation has such bad health. I mean, just as a starting point, of course, their guts open up the barrier too. But the point is, is that from the womb to the tomb, we are accumulating mercury from our mothers, you know, lead as well. The number one source of lead is moms. And moms, no offense, and dads have their issues too. But the fact is, is most leading lead is stored in the bones. And our parents, like myself, grew up in the lead generation when lead was in everything, our paint, you name it. Gasoline for that matter. And it's stored in the bones. And it's very normal to lose bone during pregnancy because estrogen changes. It's normal, but out comes the lead. So now you've gained mom's mercury, you gained mom's lead, you gained dad's plastic, you gained all of these toxins start in the womb. So my point of saying all that, that is, do you think that you're going to get it out in the 10 day cleanse when you just accumulated all those toxins in the last 30 years? The answer is no way. Real detox is a cellular issue. So for 20 years, I've taught doctors how to fix those pathways in the cell. Meaning if your cells aren't getting rid of toxins, you're accumulating them. And if you're accumulating them, you're getting sick. So when you see someone in their 30s have fatigue, fatigue, brain fog, anxiety, I just don't feel good. I can't get through a day without my energy. Most often, that is an accumulation of toxins in their life that started in the womb, unknowing to them and slowed down their detox pathways. And now they just keep accumulating. It's called bioaccumulation in the scientific literature. All that means is you've stored up a lot of toxins. And because the toxins in the last 50, 60 years have massively increased. And we have a chemical that we're putting on most of our food supply that allows these to cross deeper. You see why we're at a place we are with chronic disease, surging, diabetes, thyroid conditions. Thyroid is the most sensitive to chemicals. No wonder we have an explosion of thyroid conditions in the last 20 years. So real detox, you have to fix that. That's what I've been teaching.
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Alex Clark
Do you have a simple quick hit, like three steps to truly detox? You want to do this, this, and this?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay. Your cell membranes have more to do with detox than just about anything. What are your cell membranes? Every cell in your body has this little fatty protective layer that allows the good stuff in and allows the toxins out. Toxins go to fat, so they end up surrounding. This is now a cell. They end up surrounding the outside of the cell, driving inflammation. You can't get the good stuff in, but the problem is the toxins are trapped in there too. So if we can focus on the health of our membrane, we actually start to detox better. There's something called my five R's. That's what I teach doctors. Here's how you detox a cell. R number one is remove the source, and we should talk about that. R number two is regenerating the cell membranes. Here's something everyone can do right now. Get rid of all the vegetable oil, canola oil, soy oil, corn oil, grapeseed oil, mo, like seed oils that are in processed food. Wash. Because those fats are so important for the membrane. They go right for the membrane, but those fats are denatured. Those fats are broken. Their fats are rancid. I don't know what to say, but they go right for the membrane, and they drive inflammation like toxins do. So people are eating the standard American diet, are eating Those fats that are in everything, even when you go to Whole Foods, they're in so many things. Sunflower seed oil, this, you know, all those seed oil, they go right for the membrane because that's where they belong. And they're rancid, they're broken. So they break the membrane more and then, oh, all the toxins are going there. When your membranes are inflamed, you have hormone resistance. We're kind of finishing up what we talked about before. If your membranes are inflamed, you can't hear your hormones. Doesn't matter if you take them. That's why so many people watching this go, well, I went. I had all these thyroid conditions. The first time I went and got blood work for the first time, first, whatever years, they told me I was fine. Well, your blood work was normal because, see, just because thyroid in your blood is normal, that doesn't mean your cells can hear it. Thyroid hormones don't work in your blood. They work in your cell. If they don't get in the cell, you don't feel well, despite exercise, despite supplements, despite diet change. So inflammation is blocking that. Get rid of seed oils in your diet.
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Alex Clark
Diet.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
If you don't do that, you're dead in the water. Stop the toxins in, you know. So what we can do right now, you know, as you build cellular health and detox, is we can stop the input, right? We can stop what we're bringing in our family. We can. That's what my Instagram page is about, right? It's like, stop using this makeup, stop using this nail polish. Use this one. Stop using plastic. Use this. So if we can minimize the input, it then we can worry about, you know, how to open up our cells. And again, that's what I teach my five Rs. Our number one is you have to remove the source, what's coming in, right? So if we had a bathtub upstairs and it's overflowing, by the way, that overflows. Like when people actually start getting symptoms, you have to stop what's coming in. R number two is regenerating your cell membranes. R three is you have to restore cell energy. So when your mitochondria stops producing enough ATP, your detox pathways shut down. Down. R4 is you have to reduce inflammation. It's a lot of the fasting and diet strategies. R5 is you have to reestablish something called methylation. Methylation determines cell detox. Ultimately, your ability to get rid of toxins at the cellular level determines how healthy you are.
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Alex Clark
Spring Cleaning season is here, which is cute. Everyone's organizing their junk drawers. Like that's really going to fix your life. I mean, it will temporarily. Meanwhile, your pantry looks like a CH weapons facility. Let's be honest, if it's in your house, it's getting eaten. Your kids, your husband, you at midnight, standing in the dark like a goblin. It's happening. I know. Stop buying the crap. Making your kids gut issues and allergies worse and thinking, well, they can have a little in moderation. It never works that way. I have seen it firsthand. You're like, well, you don't have kids. You know what?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay.
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Alex Clark
I visited my friend, all right? She's got a bunch of kids. And around midnight I woke up because somebody was rustling around in the kitchen. I thought there was a rat raccoon in there. Turn on the light. Her 7 year old is climbing the walls of the pantry while everyone else is asleep, looking for some sort of seed oil, ultra processed junk that had been hidden away on the top shelf. He looked like Spider Man. If you buy masa chips, your kids will have a few and then they're going to be satiated enough to stop before they become a marvel villain at midnight. I now bring my own bag of masa chips. Speaking of me. To Mexican restaurants. Yes, I do. I don't even walk in with a purse. I come in with my chip satchel. If I don't bring masa, I'm just sitting there with guac and salsa, no chip, just scooping it, fork. Like I've absolutely lost control of my life and the waiter's looking at me like I've got some kind of problem. But I bring masa everywhere I go. One, to my friend's house now, so her kids aren't climbing the walls looking for crap food. And two, because most tortilla chips at Mexican restaurants have like 40 ingredients. Seed oils, chemicals, things invented during wartime. Masa. There's three ingredients, okay? Organic, niximalized corn, sea salt, 100% grass fed beef, tallow. That is it. It's real food. The way it used to be before everything got weird. Weird. There's a reason that masa chips are in sprouts, farmers markets, wegmans, and now starting to roll out in whole foods. The difference is real. With masa chips, you actually feel good after eating them. Now my favorite flavor right now is hatch chili. It has a personality. If you're ready to upgrade your family snack game, go to masachips.com use code real Alex Clark for 25 off your first order. Fair warning. Masa makes their chips in small batches with real ingredients, so certain flavors do go out of stock very frequently. Okay. I actually just restocked on the hatch chili because it was finally back and I wasn't gonna to miss again. So grab your favorites while they're available. Go to masachips.com use code real Alex Clark for 25% off. That's masachips.com use code Real Alex Clark for 25% off your first order. Or look for Masa chips in stores near you. But you won't get that discount in the store, just FYI. Millennial ladies, I'm saying this with love, but also with urgency. Some of you are aging like you've given up. You're doing nothing. No plan, no strategy. Just vibes. And the vibe is decline. If you don't start taking care of your hair, your skin, your nails, your gut, you're going to wake up one day. Day look in the mirror and realize you've become Lady Elaine Fairchild. And no one warned you. You're gonna be like, why do I look like I live behind a red curtain and judge children? Because you did nothing. This is why I take Cowboy colostrum in my smoothie every morning. This is first milking. Colostrum collected within four to six hours from grass fed us cows. That's when it's loaded with bioactive nutrients, okay? Immunoglobulins, natural growth factors, things that your body actually needs but you've been ignoring while you've been drinking iced coffee and hoping for the best. This stuff supports your gut, your immune system, your skin, your hair, your entire do I look alive or embalmed situation. And unlike other brands that water it down, second, third milkings, you know, they're stripping it into some sad powder. I'm telling you, there's no other colostrum powder out there that is as good as Cowboy. Cowboy keeps it whole. Full nutrients, full fat. It's the difference between eating a steak and chewing on a napkin, basically. Also, they take care of the calves first. Those babies eat, all right? It's only the. The extra that we're getting. This isn't some kind of twisted milk cartel situation, all right? You just scoop it into water, coffee, a smoothie, and suddenly you're functioning. Your skin is better, your hair is better, your gut isn't staging a protest, and it tastes so freaking good. The vanilla is just like a milkshake. You can mix it with yogurt, iced coffee, or just A2 or raw milk. The strawberry is also Fantastic. In milk. And it's all clean and real fruit. Your kids will love this. You actually have to do something if you don't want to deteriorate. You can't just sit there and be like, I drink water sometimes. No, you need reinforcements in your late 20s and stuff. 30s. Use code ALEX for 25% off@cowboy colostrum.com Again, code ALEX for 25% off atcowboy colostrum.com or don't and I'll see you on the trolley, lady. Elaine, is fasting one of the greatest anti aging protocols?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I believe it is. First of all, there's a lot of myths around fasting. We should knock them all out. Can women fast? Should I? You know, it's like, what about this fast? Okay, good. We'll let you handle your prophetic additional. So I believe fasting is the key to slowing the aging process. And I utilize it. Why? Because fasting in a fasted state, your body gets rid of something called senescent cells. Those are cells that live too long and they age you prematurely. Unfortunately, the older we get, the more of them we have.
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Alex Clark
Have.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So how do we reduce them? Well, you could do natural killer cells. That could land you $30,000. You could do plasmapheresis. That could land you $5,000. Or you could do fasting, which is free. When you're in a fasted state, the body for it needs its energy to live. It will not use a healthy cell for energy. It uses these senescent cells and it breaks them down.
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Alex Clark
Down.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
There's protein, amino acids, carbide, everything it needs, it breaks it down and gets rid of them. Oh, and here's the best part. So you're getting rid of these cells that age you prematurely. But the best part is every time it gets rid of one, it's smart enough to create a new one. So via a stem cell, it raises up your own stem cells and it creates a new cell. So imagine this. Most people that have hyper allergies, autoimmune, right? Food allergies, all these hyper things, even just seasonal allergies, we can lower those immune cells that are hyper by fasting. Meaning, wait a minute, my body's going to get rid of those hyper cells. Here's the best part, because it creates a new naive is what the scientific literature calls it, a naive immune cell, meaning a young cell that's not overreacting. It's ready to work and do the right thing. It's not one of these old guys just sitting around or these bad gang members. It gets Rid of the bad guys guy creates a new guy. So you're actually getting rid of the bad and establishing new. So imagine now if you fasted once a year. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And again there we have to talk a little bit about these types of fasts because we're confusing some people because there's daily intermittent fasting. We could fast for 18 hours a day, 6 hours, 12 hours. You know, that's daily intermittent fasting. There's partial fasting, which means that you're. That you're eating some calories, reducing protein and calories. We could talk more about that. And then there's pure water fasting and all, and then the extended fast where you're actually not eating for 3, 5, 10, 20 days. So there's a lot of different fasts.
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Alex Clark
Is fasting for everybody or really only men?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Fasting's for everyone. How do I know? Why am I so confident? Because I've been to a very primitive tribe in Africa and the women, everyone was fasting when they didn't have food. They were in a fasted state. Because fasting's not a diet, it's a survival mechanism. The reason why your body goes into autophagy is because it needs to eat. It's eating its bad self. It's eating your bad self. So fasting, everyone has that survival mechanism. That said fast. Women should absolutely fast differently than men. Male. A woman in her cycle could fast at different times successfully making it more successfully than, you know, different times in her cycle. And I've been teaching that many, many years now that women shouldn't fast like men. Women with thyroid conditions, hormone conditions, should absolutely fast differently than a man. Not as long. Maybe it's a partial fast as opposed to a pure water fast. So, and even daily intermittent fasting, many people are doing too much of that. Women absolutely need more days of feasting if they're going to fast. There's so much there because I have so many strategies for women and men.
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Alex Clark
What are the biggest mistakes beginners are making when trying to fast?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Fasting too much? Are not respecting fasting as a stress. Meaning I'm just going to go with, I'm just going to do a pure water fast, and I'm going to jump right in for three days, five days. You may not be able to handle that fast because your cells don't hear hormones very well. Your hormones determine how quickly you'll start using fat as an energy source. If that's broken, you may not get into this autophagy where your body's getting rid of the bad cells. And your body's actually using muscle too long. So those people we put into what is called a partial fast, where we get their calories under a thousand, if they're smaller, maybe it's 500. And so for men, it's typically just under a thousand. For women, it's probably closer to 500 daily calories we're talking about. And also this is important. You have to get your protein under 20 or 15 grams again. For women, a little less a day. So the reason why protein will stop the autophagy, so protein has to go down in calories. That's called a partial fast. And typically we would carry that on for five days.
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Alex Clark
I feel like I would feel like crap on. I'm telling you right now, I have zero desire to fast. Yeah, I just think like when I don't eat enough during the day or I'm. I'm not getting enough protein, I feel horrible. So this just doesn't sound appealing to me.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yes. But here's the thing that means that tells me something broken.
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Alex Clark
What?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay, sorry.
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Alex Clark
Probably is. Well, you know, I got the Hashimoto's stuff.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. So that's right. So here's the deal. So you should any human, whether you're skinny, fat. No, doesn't matter. I already said this. Your cells can use two things for energy, Sugar or fat. What you just told me is when I don't eat or eat enough, I don't feel good. So that means you're not burning fat. Fat is energy. But look how skinny she is. She's burning fat as energy. No, not necessarily. Because your body can also use muscle and protein as a source. It's called gluconeogenesis, where it uses, it makes sugar from it. So. Or you just lose your energy. Your body's shutting you down.
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Alex Clark
Totally lose energy. And I become extremely irritable. Yeah, extremely.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So basically that system needs help. Your mitochondria are not efficient at switching over from a glucose carbohydrate source into a pure fat source.
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Alex Clark
So how do you get to that part?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, see that, that's where I called mitochondrial fitness. This is like where, you know, fasting and diet shifts and changes actually help your mitochondria get stronger and better. So as we work out to get stronger or better when we go without food for small time, small periods of time time, you can get your mitochondria to actually perform better and better and better. Got it. So in the scientific literature, there's something called mitophagy, which means that during a Fasted state, you get rid of bad mitochondria. That's where we make energy and you create new ones. So the point is, is that I wouldn't. The very thing that you say you can't do is your solution. Meaning that I would just fast you for small periods until you go, oh, yeah, I can go. Go. I can skip dinner or breakfast.
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Alex Clark
Is this a bad idea for somebody that wants to get pregnant?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, because in a feast mode, you're hormonally going to be better. Fasting has to be done strategically. When you fast, you're in this state where your body's getting rid of bad cells. Autophagy. Right. But every time you fast, you also want to have time to feast. If you're trying to get pregnant and hormone optimized, I would say do a diet. Diet where you're maximizing protein. Do a diet where. And there's a time for that. Right. But if you want to get rid of the bad, then fast. So the. To answer the question, understanding that fasting is a stress that puts your body in a survival mode that we can get help from, benefit from, is not the time to do it if you want to get pregnant.
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Alex Clark
Got it.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay. Does that mean. Meaning you have to be strategic.
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Alex Clark
So when you're fasting, what is the first sign that fasting is working?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
The first sign that you break through? Through. So let's say I like five day fasts. A guy named Valter Longo, he's talked about five day fasting before. I even knew Valter and his research. I also nailed it to be five days as a sweet spot. And there's a reason for that, because it takes people about three days to get into what we call max autophagy. Again, autophagy is when your body's getting rid of all the bad stuff, all the bad cells. Right. So when we're at max autophagy, that means that's happening at its maximum time. Time. I sat in a little think tank mastermind group with a guy, a doctor named Thomas Seyfried. He was one of the top oncologists for years, studied cancer, wrote many books on cancer.
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Alex Clark
He's like really into epigenetics, right?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
He is, yeah.
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Alex Clark
Okay, I know who he is.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
And also he is very. I mean, obviously his work is around cancer. But I sat and he was talking about in a fasted state. He says you can watch the tumors shrink because of autophagy. And he goes. And then we would notice that there were a time when they stopped and we would Realize that that person left the mass max autophagy. So they looked at something called ketones and glucose. Ketones are what your body makes when it burns fat. Okay, so glucose in a fasted state should drop and ketones should rise. When that happens during a fast, you feel great. Okay, but if ketones aren't rising fast enough and glucose is dropping, you feel like crap because you don't have enough energy. My brain work, your brain can't even use fat for energy. It has to use either glucose or ketones. So if you're not burning enough fat for energy, your body's not getting enough ketones. So anyways, he discovered a one to one ratio of glucose and ketones. When that happens, you're in max autophagy. That takes about three days. And we can watch numbers and know when that happens. So most people, they go, oh my gosh, I feel so much. Day four people break through. My brain's working, I feel great. I'm not even hungry. Okay, you broke into max autophagy people that day. One day too. They're just trying to get there. Some people never get there. So we would never even want to do maybe a five day fast with them. We're doing some daily fasting, short things, 12 hours, 15 hours. Hey, I'm doing okay on 15 hours. I'm skipping breakfast. I'm okay. But see, people hear about intermittent fasting, they just start doing it when maybe their body is burning muscle instead of, you know, fat. So you can't just do what your friend's doing is my point. Right. You have to listen to your body and, you know, understand that it's, it's a premise called hormesis. You're fasting, and if you adapt to the stress, you're eventually going to get stronger. Start small and work your way up.
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Alex Clark
Okay?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Don't jump into a five day water fast. Don't jump into a three day water fast. Maybe you do do a little bit of daily fasting, skipping a meal, seeing how you do, and you do that for a month, maybe you enter into a diet called ketosis, where it's. You drop your carbohydrates so much that it forces you to burn fat. Maybe you do that for two or three months first. And now you're getting your mitochondria, you know, exercising, the mitochondrial fitness used to burning fat for energy, and then you fast.
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Alex Clark
So what technically breaks a fast and what do people think is okay, but then it can actually ruin, ruin it.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
If you're doing a pure water fast, eating, let's see too much protein, right? You're, that stops autophagy pretty immediate. Exercising too much in a fast can actually be harmful because your body in a fasted state wants to use that energy for healing. A fast is like the time when you give your body a break and it starts repairing and cleaning up. It's like taking time off work. You start to get to the honey do list and go, okay, I'm going to fix the garage, I'm going to do this, I'm going to do that, right? So your body goes through that in a time of fasting. So exercising, you're often taking that, you know, extra energy that it needed for healing and driving it to recover from exercise. Not good. Breaking a fast, meaning you just went either a partial fast for five days or a water fast for five days and all of a sudden just going back to your regular diet, you literally can cause harm. So you don't want to do that. You want to break a fast very gradually. If you fast for five days, I would say it takes two days of very reduced calories, reduced protein, very simple eating before you go into your hopefully normal, healthy diet.
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Alex Clark
Is it okay to drink coffee while you're fasting?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
That depends. Here's what people can do. If you just get a simple glucose monitor, right? And you test your glucose before, let's make up a number. Let's say it's 90, 90. And then you drink your coffee, take your glucose 30 minutes later, 45 minutes later, if that number goes up to 100, 110, the answer is nope, coffee's not good. If the answer is no, it's about the same. Yeah, maybe it's three or four difference. Do it three days in a row. Get an average. If that average is 10 or above your coffee, you're gonna have to change something. Okay, the reason why is glucose follows cortisol, right? So we're looking at glucose, but that means that coffee made your cortisol go up. Now, it could be because you don't do well with caffeine. Try decaf. It could be because you have moldy coffee. It could be because you know, you can't handle the stress, you know, of whatever else was in, in that, you know, coffee drink. The point is, is you might have to try something else or no coffee at all. If, if someone's doing a pure water fast. I don't like coffee at all. If someone's doing a partial fast, you might be able to do coffee, but check your glucose.
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Alex Clark
Speaking of anti aging, why should women not get Eyelash extensions.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, first of all, there's a glue that's associated with them. The glue just gets into your system. It has formaldehyde, other chemicals, hormone disrupting chemicals. But I told the story, you know, about how it can cause, you know, ice eyesight loss. And I'm not kidding, a woman who worked for me, me it happened to, I mean it was not that many weeks later and she doesn't show up for work. She actually got just some soap in her eye and it emulsified it and it sped up to how much came out. Anyways, she lost her vision. Now here's the good news. She did gain, she had double vision. It's not completely restored, but she did get her vision back.
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Alex Clark
Back.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So I went on, I told that story to all the naysayers out there. They were like, I'm like, okay, this just happened. Tell them right what happened. And so then other people told their story. So there's issues with that. But it brings in a lot of toxins, a lot of toxicity. Being brought into the eyes is bad. Why? Because it goes right into the brain.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Now that said, there, there are, I don't know the solutions. I, I think later I brought out some videos of, of non toxic eye glues that are not using some chemicals. Right. So you know, yeah, there are some solutions. I don't know them right now.
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Alex Clark
What should women know about self tanner?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Self tanner? Well, self tanner, it has something in it called dha. And what that chemical does is it literally activates your cells into releasing melanin and it gives you a tan. The problem with that, if you look at the warnings, it says whatever you do, don't breathe it in. Well, the problem is, is most of the self tanners just spray or yeah, they put you in and it goes right into the lungs. And that is problematic. And it's shown to alter the DNA and it's shown to alter, you know, your cells and it can even lead to cancer, et cetera. Now they tell you these warnings, but they tell you just don't inhale it. Now other studies have shown even rubbing it in, it's going in and can have an effect on DNA. So now again, there's other self tanners that are saying it's DHA free, blah, blah, blah, you know. But most of them on the market are not.
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Alex Clark
So for my audience, their first question is going to be, okay, well if you had to choose between self tanner or tanning beds, what would you do?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, well, why can't we just say go in the Real sun.
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Alex Clark
That's what I'm saying.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I know. I don't like any of them. I don't like any of those choices. I listen, do you know, I, I hope I get this.
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Alex Clark
But they don't all live on the west coast like we do. So they're like, well, I live in Wisconsin, what am I going to do?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Do, yeah, go on vacation. But no. And I can tell you a thousand reasons to go on vacation. Here's the good news. Even in Wisconsin, if you just get outside without sunglasses on and you know, glaring at the sun over here, don't look into the sun, you're going to bring in those waves that are very beneficial to you. Right. So there's absolutely importance there. Again, the darker your skin, the more at risk you are for a problem living in Wisconsin. Why is that? Because dark skin takes far more exposure to the sun. Someone like you, you in Wisconsin could literally even times in the winter with reflection even off of Snow, can get 15 minutes of being outside and actually, you know, benefit yourself and create enough vitamin D, et cetera, et cetera. But the fact is, is that the darker skin, the more exposure you need. So people that have dark skin absolutely have to be careful, you know, at certain latitudes living. I would recommend taking vitamin D. Always take vitamin D with vitamin K2 and other fat solubles. But there is a time to take vitamin D. I am somebody who'll tell you, get in the sun. That's the best vitamin D source, right? Totally. You know, but there are times that, that it is needed.
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Alex Clark
What happens when you put perfume on your neck?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I hate perfume. Sorry ladies. Because you have so much blood flow, lymphatic channels right here. It goes right in. So the reason why one of the things when I was chemically sensitive, it would just send me. It'd ruin my day. I would sit to next to somebody with perfume or cologne on and I'd be like, I'd have not just that day, I wouldn't sleep well that night. Next day I'd still be not right. My brain would be right. So what does it say? Chemically sensitive people out there watching this right now, they're like, he's right. Right. What it says is, is that it's so toxic that, you know, is one of the things that set us off. The worst fragrance, okay, all fragrance, they just use massive amounts of chemicals in the hormone disrupting chemicals going directly into your lymphatic system, directly into your blood system. Crossing the blood brain barrier, you're breathing it into your nose, into Your lungs into the bloodstream. If you want to toxify yourself, you know the fastest, just keep wearing that cologne in perfume. And I'm telling you, it's all toxins, all toxic. Here's why. Fragrance companies. And by the way, the same goes for laundry detergent, fabric softeners, the plugins, anything with fragrance in it, shampoos. I hate it. All because they have. They're protected by intellectual property laws that they don't have to disclose their toxic ingredients, that most of which chemicals that have been banned for years, and because they don't have to tell you what's in it because of the IP protection laws, then you're getting the most toxic things that are known to cause cancer. Oh, and then we're putting it on our neck. I can't think of a faster way to cancer. I can't think of a faster way to sickness.
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Alex Clark
How necessary is it to eat breakfast?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, look, I know it's called the. The most important meal of the day. You know, some. I. I'm sure the breakfast companies, Kellogg's and those people came up with such a nice little slogan. For someone who has metabolic problems, sometimes eating breakfast can be very helpful. And I would say skip dinner, right? So when we're talking about daily intermittent fasting, which means we kind of skip a meal and go 15, 18 hours without food, that's called daily intermittent fasting. Skipping dinner is better than skipping breakfast. That said, most of us wake up in the morning and we're not even hungry. It's because you go into something called the dawn effect, your body to get you up. It just nudges cortisol a little bit. Okay. That means cortisol. Whoa. Gives you energy and you wake up. And you wake up kind of with the sun. That's great. But glucose follows cortisol, meaning as cortisol goes up, glucose goes up. As glucose goes up, cortisol goes up. So they kind of have this relationship. So we see this dawn effect where our glucose is a little bit higher in the morning, maybe 90 instead of 80 as an example, right? That's because the cortisol rise. So we wake up, we're not hungry. Typically our bodies, you know, kind of released a little glucose. We're going about our day. You're still kind of even in a fat burning mode through the night. So most people don't want to eat. And maybe later, say noon comes and then they start getting hungry. Right? So breakfast isn't as important. Someone who's metabolically broke, broken, it could be important. Here's why. Why through the night when I'm not eating cells? You're learning this because I've said it to them many times. Your cells can only use two things for energy, sugar or fat. So when you're not eating in the middle of the night, what do you think your cells are using?
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Alex Clark
You're fat.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, you're fat. But what if you're hormonally broken because your cells are inflamed, like I said, then maybe what? Because your cells aren't using fat very efficiently as an energy source. What would it probably be doing using? Well, it can only use two things. Choose the other one. Can't use fat. You're hormonally broken. Now, what's it using?
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Alex Clark
Energy.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Sugar.
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Alex Clark
Okay.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's making energy from either sugar or fat. Okay. So hormonally you don't do well with fat as an energy source. So at night your body's using sugar. Well, it doesn't want to wake you up. Although this does happen to people to eat sugar. But that does explain why people have cravings through the day and need to eat all day. And they say, I don't have energy and I lose my brain. So they find themselves eating all day because they're going after the sugar that their body needs for the energy source. But what it does is it'll take your muscle during the night and break it down into sugar.
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Alex Clark
I think this is what's happening to me.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
And that's why your metabolism gets slower. That's why when you don't eat, you feel like crap. So your body wants you to keep eating. So if we can get somebody using fat efficiently when they're not eating sugar or fat. So when you're not eating, you should use fat. So the point is, is that when that works great, you wake up in the morning, you're not burning your muscle, your body's burning its fat. Why break that? Your body will continue to burn fat.
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Alex Clark
So Barbara o' Neill was just on the show and she said for everybody, I mean, she was like, breakfast, you should have like a king. This should be your biggest meal of the day. Then lunch and then dinner. Dinner should be like the smallest meal of the day. So she kind of reverses it. Whereas I think most Americans, breakfast is the smallest meal of the day. But you're saying it should be a case by case basis.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It is case by case. So I agree with her. But here's the thing that when you, when you go to Europe where people are, you don't see as many fat People, if any, I mean, you can tell the Americans, unfortunately, they also walk
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Alex Clark
way more than we do.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. But you know, I, I really do believe it's the lack of the chemicals that there, you know, we have what, 600 or 400, some chemicals that are approved that we already know cause problems over there. It's like 10. Yeah, yeah. I mean, glyphosate's outlawed. I mean, you know, so I think it's a chemical thing, but fact is, is that you don't see as many fat people. But think about the way they eat. They barely eat breakfast and then they eat this big social meal at night, which many cultures that I do. So that tribe that I saw, they didn't eat breakfast. The men would go out hunting and they would come back and they. Around, you know, three, four o', clock, the men came back and then they had a big, A big meal.
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Alex Clark
Let's talk about sunscreen, because this is one of those topics where the more you look into it, the weirder it gets. You're at the beach spraying something on your body that smells like a chemical spill and you're like, this is healthy. Yay, sunscreen. But then you start reading actual reports and you see ingredients like benzene contamination showing up in some sunscreen products, which is literally a carcinogen. We know it causes cancer. You've got oxybenzone, octinoxate, ingredients that have been studied for hormone disruption and are absorbed into the bloodstream. And at some point you have to ask a very uncomfortable question. Are we sure that we understand what is actually helping us and what might not be? Because we've all agreed the sun is the problem. Right. This is what we've been told for years. And so we're coding ourselves daily in something else that we don't understand. And then we're hoping for the best. Well, I don't like to hope, I like to know. And so I need a different approach, which is why I use primly Pure sunscreen and apparently everyone else does too, because last summer it was sold out for weeks in a row. Which is why I'm telling you now so you don't run into the same issue whenever you are like, oh, I kind of need sunscreen. Primally Pure's lavender mint sunscreen is tallow powered mineral based SPF 30 with non nano zinc oxide. So it sits on your skin and physically blocks the sun instead of getting absorbed. And the ingredients actually make sense. Sense, okay. Grass fed tallow, beeswax, mango butter, real things. It protects your skin while Also nourishing it, supporting your skin barrier. You're really hydrated. You've got a natural glow without making you look like you're auditioning for a ghost role. It's reef safe. It's non toxic, naturally scented with lavender and peppermint. No synthetic fragrance. It's from a Christian and conservative female founded company that actually cares about what goes into their products. They have kids, so they worry about this stuff. This is moms. I also love their natural deodorant one. You switch, you realize how insane the conventional stuff is. And with Mother's Day coming up, this is such a good gift. Clean, intentional, something people actually use every day. Use code Alex Clark to get 15% off your Primly Pure purchase. That's Primally Pure dot com. Code Alex Clark for 15% off. I used to babysit these kids. Horrible kids, like, deeply unwell. I mean, first of all, their behavior was awful. Screaming, negotiating like tiny lawyers. But also they just had sticky hands. And that like makes it ten times worse. And the parents would be like, well, we only feed them organic snacks. Snacks? Yeah. Organic what? Glue? Because these kids were bouncing off the walls like they just did a line of Pixie sticks. I'm reading ingredient labels like, what is this? 47 ingredients. Half of them sound like pharmaceutical side effects. This is the problem with snacks, okay? And I'm saying that in quotes. They're either junk or they pretend to be healthy, but they're still garbage. This is why I love Paleo Valley beef sticks. And if I could go back in time, you know, 15 years ago when I was like a teenager babysitting, this is what I would have brought them. These are 100, 100% grass fed, grass finished beef raised on real pastures, regenerative, not in some dystopian feedlot situation. They're naturally fermented, which is so rare. You are not getting all of the preservatives and weird chemicals that are in basically every other meat stick. This is such a unique beef stick, it tastes completely different than any other jerky or beef stick that you've ever had. Trust me, you think that all beef sticks are the same until you've had Paleo Valley. This is the best tasting one on the market. They've got flavors like jalapeno, garlic, summer sausage, teriyaki. So you're not suffering, you're enjoying your life. And this is the kind of snack that you can actually give kids or yourself without feeling like you've made a terrible decision because you eat this and then you feel normal. Stable. Not like you need to be monitored. Head to paleo valley.com use code Alex for 15 off your first order. That's paleovally.com code Alex for 15 off. Why do you hate hot tubs?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Well, two reasons. The chemicals, the chlorine, bromine, whatever they're putting in, it's hot. So your skin is in a vasodilated state, your pores are open and income the chemicals.
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Alex Clark
And why is bromine particularly dangerous for people with Hashimoto's?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Ah, well because it is a what we call a halogen chemical. Halogen chemical, what does that mean? They, they literally cause thyroid dysfunction. They go for the thyroid receptor because thyroid receptors work work from these halogen type of iodine as a halogen. Right. So it goes for that. So it blocks the iodine receptors and the other receptors and it's a chemical. So then it can turn your own immune system against itself. Now there's another reason why people with autoimmune don't do well with hot tubs and has nothing to do with the chemical. I, I would say that's part of it. When I was sick, I couldn't do hot or cold. Why? And it would leave me wiped out, fatigued. Because it's a stress that you have to adapt to. When you adapt, it's a positive. I'm not against hot or cold. So many people are doing cold baths. It's very in vogue. And cold baths only work because your body thinks it's going to die and upregulates something called neuropinephrine that upregulates growth hormone and you get more hormone sensitive. All these wonderful things de inflammation, all these wonderful things happen happen if you adapt to that cold, if you don't adapt, meaning your body raised norepinephrine and it was. And you didn't adapt to the stress. Now it's left in this bad state and an inflammation occurs, growth hormone drops, the exact opposite happens. And then the next day they feel worse and they don't associate with the cold bath. Same goes for hot.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So when I would do too hot of a shower I would be like, I'd be, be like I can't go to work. I, I just can't. I don't have anything like. So I learned to take very lukewarm showers. I learned to not, you know, go expose myself to cold very much because it would leave me fatigued, meaning I was sick, I was cellularly toxic and therefore my ability to adapt period was absolutely horrible.
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Alex Clark
So I'm assuming the same Logic can be applied to cold plunging, then that cold plunging is not great for everybody.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yes. So here's what happens, right? Just like the fasting question, should women do cold plunges? Maybe. I would argue just like fasting, most women are doing too much because they see their husband or someone or, you know, whatever, do it for 2 minutes, 3 minutes, and so they think they should do it for two or three minutes. Most women, especially a perimenopausal woman, can adapt to two minutes of cold. Now, would 10 seconds do them good? Yeah. So we can't say, should women fast? We can't say, should women do cold babies fast? The answer is not like a man.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
And absolutely. Just less, perhaps. And again, it depends on where you are. A woman with a thyroid condition or hormone condition, they might not be able to do any cold.
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Alex Clark
I can't.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Alex Clark
Because you're not adaptable. If it's not like that, I bet
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
you even struggle with hot tubs.
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Alex Clark
Yes. I get feel so depleted, zero energy the day after hot tub.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, because you can't adapt. Just like when I was 17, sick to the hot or the cold. So it's not the hot tub, it's not the cold, it's the fact that you don't have the ability to adapt. So what do you do? Let me flip it. The premise is hormesis, meaning if we stress a biological system like us, a living being, and we adapt, we get stronger. So let's use exercise. That's one thing that everyone can understand. Exercise is a stress that most of us associate with getting healthier, stronger, everything good, right? But that's not the case. Oftentimes, if exercise is used inappropriately, your body doesn't adapt. Now, professional trainers, they're looking at their athletes, they're looking at the way they walk in that day, they're looking at their face, they're looking at how they slept. How'd you sleep last night? I'm sleeping great, you know, and they're looking at their energy, just how they speak to them. They're always evaluating their energy, their ability to adapt, their sleep. Right. And we can use heart rate monitors looking at heart rate variability. Everything is. Is the athlete adapting to the stress or not? Now, these are trained athletes because here's what the trainer wants to know. The moment they're not, they back off and they allow the adapt. The moment they're not, they start asking about how's your diet, how's your sleep? Maybe you're doing something not to Adapt, right. So that would cause the hormetic ceiling, meaning your ability to adapt to actually lower if you're not sleeping well. So when people aren't sleeping well because they're traveling a lot, why are you doing a three minute cold breath bath? You're not going to adapt to that stress. So the point is that you hire a trainer to change your exercise, to do things, to vary it, to make sure you're adapting no different than the hot cold. It's like if you can't do it. When I was sick, I couldn't exercise at all. I couldn't even barely take walks. That's how bad I was. My innate intelligence was telling me not to. And then I could start walking a little bit, then I could start doing this, then I could start, start, I could do a little bit of workout as my body adapted, then it became good for me. But people don't listen to their body. You know, that's why most people need a coach. They work out too much. They're literally working out is just as much of a negative as the three minute cold bath for them. So if you understand that premise in question, how did I sleep that night? How do I feel the next day? Then you'll start doing less of something and getting more of a benefit.
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Alex Clark
Why should you never serve a child microwave popcorn? Popcorn?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
First of all, there's forever chemicals in most of those bags. Forever chemicals are just that. These are chemicals that disrupt hormones or you know, been sued to cause cancer. Right? I mean these things are bad hormone disruptors and yet they're in the bags. Anything with a, a coating, a Teflon coating, anything with a non stick coating, which that has, is typically going to have a forever chemical, not to mention loaded with the bad oils that I already warned people about, loaded with the seed oils, the, you know, all the bad stuff. Oh, not to mention all the chemicals. When you read the bag, like what is that? If you can't read it, don't eat it. I mean it is that simple. So you have the chemicals, you have the, you know, the, the Teflons, the bad fats, you know, all of it is in microwave. And by the way, I don't even microwaves denature food. Right? It's like we shouldn't even be using a microwave. So how many replacements reasons I give not to ever use that? A lot. A lot, a lot.
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Alex Clark
You've made your point.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Okay. On this show, in this corner of the wellness space, on the Internet, we believe in tin fish supremacy. I am a tin Fish fanatic. I'm obsessed with it. I tell everybody tin fish is the way to go for your, like, 20 grams of protein here, easy lunch. I love it. I love it. I love it. You also are a fan of tin fish.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I am.
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Alex Clark
Why should everybody be including sardines in their diet?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. First of all, look, we can criticize tin fish. It's in tin. I mean, you know, there might be a plastic coating in the tin. Right. I mean, so we can get better ones. Not better ones, But, I mean, I love sardines. Okay, first of all, you have to understand, I take a lot of heat for this. I hate fish oil. And this isn't just, like, you know, random reason that I hate fish oil. Let me restate it. I love fish oil in fish. I actually love vegetables. Oil in vegetables. Meaning it's all in this perfect little package with everything that protects that fragile oil.
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Alex Clark
Yes.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay. I talked about most people watching this would know the dangers of seed oils. Right. And they're trying to avoid seed oils. We mentioned that what makes a fat very fragile. And again, that's bad because it makes its way into your membranes, drives inflammation, all these bad things. We could do a whole show on that.
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Alex Clark
That.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
But what makes it fragile is the amount of double bonds. Saturated fat means it has no double bonds. So think about tallow. Now, in healthy places, they're doing frying things in tallow.
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Alex Clark
Yeah.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Okay, well, that's good because it's a saturated fat that takes frying, literally. Tallow. You can fry in it and make a French fry that doesn't have a denatured fat. Butter. It's saturated. Ghee. I mean, so these are fats. Coconut oil. These are saturated. They don't have double bonds. Now, a monosaturated fat. Olive oil. We know olive oil can take some heat, but you don't want to overheat it. But it has one double bond, so it's a little more stable. Right. Seed oils have two and three double bonds. That means they're even more fragile, which everyone gets. How many double bonds does fish oil have? 5 or 6.
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Alex Clark
Ooh. Really?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's even more fragile. So the point is, some people believe that even when you ingest it, it, you know, creates rancicity and issues. But the fact is, is fish oil is, you know, a rancid oil. Typically, fish, there's sardines in the can. They don't. The smaller the fish, the cleaner the fish. And so sardines are very, very clean from that perspective. Now, if you can get them in Glass. That's the best solution.
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Alex Clark
So what my audience asked me, so I'll ask you, is they always say, but how do you eat it? What's your answer?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I like them, so I eat them. I eat them, right?
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Alex Clark
That's what I do. So they always want. But they're like, what do I put on it? Do I put it on a cracker? Do I put it on a sandwich? I'm like, really? You could do anything.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, I just eat them.
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Alex Clark
But I like anchovies too. And anchovies are great in pies.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I love anchovies too. Salads. Pot. Yeah. But you also. Some people love this. They. They get a little of the organic. I'm a real raw dairy person. I love raw dairy. I commercial dairy. Can we been one of the most toxic things on the planet.
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Alex Clark
It.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I get it. But real dairy, the cows that ate grass their whole life and you don't torture it with overheating it. Raw dairy, I think is so incredibly healthy. So you can get now all the healthier cottage cheeses or something like that. Put your. Put the sardines in with that.
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Alex Clark
Is it possible to prevent seasonal depression?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Getting in the sun is very, very important. Natural sun is very important. So. So let's use your Wisconsin thing. Sun gazing can be enough. So when you go out in the sun, not look directly at it, but away from it, without sunglasses on, that can be enough right there to prevent it. Now there is shieldingshop.com I'm about to make a product. I don't get anything for this, but it's a light that I have by my desk that I turn on. It has all the full wavelengths of the sun just by getting that in your eyes sitting at your desk. So if you work in an office all day, I would say get one of these lamps, shieldingshot.com and it's a natural light things. And that could be a solution.
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Alex Clark
Okay. I love that.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah. And it is. It's like, listen, nothing's better than the sun because what we're gonna have is people go, oh, you know, you have to get in the sun.
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Alex Clark
But even if you're cloudy, it's still good to go outside and get sun in your house.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
It's true. No, it is true. Absolutely. So look, it's free to go outside without shoes on ground and get light. And even in the winter, it still makes a big difference. The sun is at a lower, you know, wavelength there. But it still works.
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Alex Clark
Do you use AirPods?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Never would I use AirPods again. When you measure something, you Get a lot more passionate about not doing it. So when I measured it with my own EMF measuring device, it was a thousand times. It was over. But if I rounded it to it and I measured multiple ways, ways a thousand times higher. The amount of electromagnetic frequency going directly into your brain. So then a wired version. So getting back to like the wire for a reason, there's things you can put on it to shield. Like, it like pushes the EMF out. I. I actually measured that and I actually did it with a guy named Ryan Blazer.
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Alex Clark
Yeah, we know Ryan on the show. He's been on the show.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So Ryan and I did a video where we met because we both said there's no way it worked. Works. I think wave block makes the. The product. And it, it actually worked. It actually decreased it. I don't remember what our findings were, but it, it did. It was like maybe half right. But I, I was pretty shocked because what it did is it deflected.
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Alex Clark
So wired headphones, always, always, you know,
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
because that way you're getting rid of all of it. So to the point you're putting that radiation into your head. Now this, you know, how much someone can, you know, know, withstand before it starts causing problems? It's kind of like the hot, cold conversation. Well, that depends, because some people that are already stressed are going to handle very little to where it's, you know, causing enough heat at their DNA that in. They're not adapting. And you're altering your DNA. I don't risk that.
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Alex Clark
Is there any frozen pizza at the store that is MAHA approved?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
So I went into, I think it was Whole Foods where we looked at it, and I didn't find one there that day. And that was that Whole Food. So I'm not like, you know, there might be a Whole Foods. That there is a good one. Just being clear. But, you know, I was looking to see if we could just find some organic sour dough. Organic wheat sour dough with real sauce, no bad seed oils, 100 olive oil and an organic cheese. That was my goal. Okay. It's like, here's a good alternative. I didn't find it that day. I think I did a video on that. And that day I didn't find that. Said I have been to other places, other health food stores where I found. So people looking for that make sure it's organic, you know, because here's the point. Is it the gluten or is it the chemical glyphosate that you and I absolutely despise? I believe it's the glyphosate that's the bigger problem because it opens up the moment you eat something with this chemical on it. And wheat carries a lot of it. That's one of the fruits and vegetables carry it too, of course, but wheat has a concentrated amount of it. There's a reason for that. Remind me and I'll tell you the reason why. So the moment you eat it, it connects to an enzyme called zonulin. Zonulin opens up your gut immediately. And then what happens? You have these proteins in the wheat that cross over, one of which is gluten. There's others. They cross over. And your body makes animal antibodies too. Now we have what is called a gluten allergy. And people feel crappy afterwards. So it's more of the chemical. That's why when people go to other countries like Italy, they go, oh my God, I feel fine after. It's first the glyphosate. Now I'd argue that they even have a more a better wheat even. But the chemical is the first and the biggest problem. Make sure it's an organic wheat. You're going to get less of the chemical. Make sure it's organic dairy and no seed oils. That would be your healthy pizza.
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Alex Clark
Everyone in Gen Z doordashes, they don't even know how to cook. They're doordashing Uber eatsing everything. Everything is coming in plastic. When you are getting takeout food. Why is eating food out of black plastic worse even than regular plastic?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yes. And it is. It's literally made. That black plastic is made from recycled electronics.
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Alex Clark
Ew. Are you freaking kidding?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yes. And you know what that carries? Flame retardants. Flame retardants. If you want to disrupt your thyroid faster than any way, like say, man, I really want to, you know, get my thyroid malfunctioning. The fastest way there is flame retardants. Then do saunas, whirlpools or hot tubs, whatever. We're calling the chlorine exposure, the bromine. But flame retardant. That smell when you open up a new computer, you know when you open up that computer, that smell you're smelling, that's the flame retardant. I recognize. I said I smelled it in here. Sorry, but I mean there's nothing you can do. It's Ron Electronics every not criticizing your studio. Studios have high levels because a lot of electronics have the flame retardants.
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Alex Clark
But yeah, it's a good, good thing
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
I have Jasper going right here. You have a good a Jasper. I'm glad I sat in this Seats. But no, they. They disrupt the thyroid. And flame retardants are extremely bad, so avoid them like the plague.
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Alex Clark
Oh, my gosh. That is, by the way, when I
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
get a new computer, a new phone, I set it out in the sun to burn it off. Yeah, you take a little bit of vinegar, wipe it off, and then burn it off.
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Alex Clark
Where can people follow you on social media? And then where can they listen to your podcast?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
My podcast is the Dr. Pompa podcast, and it's on all the places where you find podcasts. But they'll find your show. We did, and, oh, my gosh, it was so good. Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Thank you. Thank you for having me, and thank you for coming on my show. And you are so fun to follow on social media. You just kill it. I learned so much from you, have been following you for years, so it's such a delight to have you on the show. I ask every guest this. If you could offer one remedy to heal us at culture, physically, emotionally, or spiritually, what would it be be?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Fasting. Because fasting not only affects you. We already talked about the physical part of that. We didn't talk about the spiritual part. One of the scriptures that I. I love, because I believe that fasting is that it weakens us and makes us therefore more reliant on God. Like, we're in a weakened state. When we are weak, God is stronger and steps in. I believe when we want, we're dealing with something bigger than us, we fast. So the king of Israel at this time, Josiah, Josephus, he saw three armies coming out of the north, and they were dead. And he didn't know what to do. So he did the right thing. He called a fast of all Israel and Judah. And that fast, they cried out to the Lord, they fast forward, fasted, and God answered, and he took care of the battle before them.
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Alex Clark
You have such a cool testimony because you were an atheist and then became a Christian, right?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Wow.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah.
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Alex Clark
Well, what's the short version of that?
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, the short version is I grew up Catholic, and it was like I was saw. It was all about rules. It was all about dudes notes. I, you know, I saw a bunch of hypocrisy. I just learned to despise it all. So I would say I became an agnostic, you know, just not completely denouncing God, but wanted nothing to do with religion. And, well, God changed that. I literally. The fast version is I got into a debate with a friend of mine that went on for weeks, and he said, you never read it. Meaning the Bible. So just to prove him wrong I literally started reading and I remember I started in the book of John because someone told me to start there and I started reading it and I literally within short time said no one ever showed and told me this. Meaning it has nothing to do with about you trying to be good enough. Nothing at all. That's why Christ died. He died because none of us can be good enough. No one told me all the years sitting in church, you know, forced to sit there if you will. Never heard that message. That has nothing to do with how good we are. All religions. It's about being good enough. Be good your works. How much are you doing right and to learn that it has nothing to do with it. That's why Christ died. And all we have to do is believe that Jesus died died for our sins and we're bloody sinners saved by Anyways, I never restarted the argument. God after that started changing me and you know there's a whole part of that story.
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Alex Clark
So cool. Thank you Dr. Pompa for coming on Culture Apothecary.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Yeah, and my Instagram is Dr. Pompa so they can go to that too.
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Alex Clark
Thank you.
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Dr. Daniel Pompa
Love it. Love your show.
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Alex Clark
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