Citizen Cope

Today is a very special guest that people probably know much better as Citizen Cope. But his real name is Clarence Greenwood. He’s a musician. He writes his own stuff. But you'll also understand maybe the root of where his music came from. At the beginning of the interview, we talked about what his mom made him do to get his allowance, to do certain things or get away with certain things or buy certain things, which is really foreshadowing his whole life of becoming a writer and poet. We talked about the business of music, about privacy. We talked about the difficulties of the industry. We talk about labelling. How society is just so busy labeling everything. He doesn't really have a music genre. Never really has identified or cared about what it was called that he played, whether it was “pop” or “rock” or “soul”. It just doesn't matter to him. He's just a purist at heart with his music. And we got into spirituality. We got into talking about guys like Eckhart Tolle and Alan Watts,...