EP 430: God Helping You Cheat, Recycling Date Spots, & The Kama Sutra

Summary

Decisions, Decisions - EP 430: God Helping You Cheat, Recycling Date Spots, & The Kama Sutra

Release Date: July 21, 2025
Hosts: Mandii B and WeezyWTF
Produced by: The Black Effect and iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In Episode 430 of "Decisions, Decisions," hosts Mandii B and WeezyWTF delve into a variety of personal and societal topics surrounding modern relationships. From navigating the complexities of infidelity and date planning to exploring the depths of ancient texts like the Kama Sutra, the duo offers candid conversations infused with humor and vulnerability. This episode also touches on cultural norms, personal anecdotes, and the challenges of maintaining authentic connections in today's world.

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Navigating Infidelity and Relationship Challenges

One of the central themes of this episode revolves around infidelity and its profound impact on relationships. WeezyWTF shares a harrowing personal experience of choking on a chicken wing, highlighting the physical dangers that can accompany relationship stress.

• WeezyWTF's Choking Incident ([14:00] - [23:00]):

  Weezy recounts experiencing severe choking while having Chinese food with his partner, which led to an emergency room visit. This incident not only underscores the physical vulnerabilities in everyday life but also serves as a metaphor for the suffocating nature of certain relationship dynamics.

  WeezyWTF: "I felt so bad. We better... I think I'm choking." ([16:00])

  Mandy: "If you could talk... what you did was scary." ([16:29])

  The episode explores how such high-stress situations can strain relationships, emphasizing the importance of understanding and support between partners.

• Discussion on Infidelity ([39:50] - [43:50]):

  The hosts discuss a particularly traumatic story involving infidelity, where cheating not only destroys personal relationships but also leads to tragic consequences, including loss of life and property. This segment highlights the severe repercussions that infidelity can have beyond the immediate parties involved.

  Mandy: "Our home was burned down." ([40:27])

  WeezyWTF: "He was trying to go out there and get some money." ([43:14])

  The conversation underscores the deep emotional and societal impacts of betrayal, advocating for honesty and integrity in relationships.

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Recycling Date Spots and Relationship Dynamics

The hosts examine the nuances of planning date nights, particularly the challenges of introducing new experiences versus revisiting familiar places.

• Date Planning Conflicts ([07:00] - [14:00]):

  WeezyWTF shares his attempt to surprise his partner with a new restaurant and a Broadway show, only to discover that his partner had personal connections to the venues chosen. This leads to a discussion about the balance between surprise and personal relevance in relationship activities.

  WeezyWTF: "It was supposed to be something new. You can't know that he ain't never been there if you don't." ([12:53])

  Mandy: "If you want to give someone about you, you're enjoying everything that you're planning." ([12:31])

  This segment highlights the complexity of maintaining excitement in long-term relationships while respecting each other's histories and preferences.

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Exploring the Kama Sutra: Beyond Sexual Positions

A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to unpacking the Kama Sutra, challenging common perceptions and delving into its broader implications on love and society.

• Understanding the Kama Sutra ([48:26] - [58:35]):

  The hosts provide an insightful analysis of the Kama Sutra, revealing that it encompasses much more than just sexual positions. They discuss its principles of love, courtship, marriage, and societal norms, particularly its stance on the caste system and monogamy.

  WeezyWTF: "Kama Sutra is the principles of love from ancient Hindu text... It covers more than just sexual positions." ([49:01])

  Mandy: "In Hinduism, they do not accept the practice of polygamy." ([55:00])

  The conversation critiques the text's patriarchal views, emphasizing how historical contexts influence modern interpretations of love and relationships. The hosts debate the relevance of the Kama Sutra's teachings in contemporary society, advocating for a more inclusive and egalitarian approach to love and sexuality.

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Cultural and Societal Reflections

Throughout the episode, Mandii B and WeezyWTF reflect on cultural norms, societal expectations, and the evolution of relationship dynamics in different regions, particularly focusing on their experiences in Atlanta.

• Living in Atlanta vs. New York ([04:00] - [14:00]):

  Mandii shares her multiple experiences living in Atlanta, comparing it to her time in New York. She discusses the sense of community, the quality of local restaurants, and the differences in hospitality and service standards between the two cities.

  Mandii: "I feel more at home here than anywhere." ([04:44])

  WeezyWTF: "People really say this all the time... New Atlanta, Old Atlanta, New Atlanta." ([04:55])

  This discussion highlights the importance of environment in shaping one's understanding of relationships and personal growth.

• Cultural Critiques ([33:00] - [39:50]):

  The hosts critique religious and societal constructs, particularly focusing on how certain beliefs influence attitudes towards infidelity and personal value within relationships.

  WeezyWTF: "She's using God as an excuse to admit that she doesn't really love herself." ([35:34])

  Mandy: "I think religion is a cult." ([34:37])

  These reflections encourage listeners to question and redefine their own beliefs and values in the context of modern relationships.

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Conclusion and Key Takeaways

Episode 430 of "Decisions, Decisions" offers a multifaceted exploration of modern relationships, blending personal stories with cultural analysis. Mandii B and WeezyWTF challenge traditional norms, advocate for authentic connections, and encourage open dialogue about love, infidelity, and personal growth. By addressing both the mundane and the profound aspects of relationships, the hosts provide valuable insights for listeners navigating their own romantic lives.

WeezyWTF: "Choking is close to drowning, though." ([22:26])

Mandii: "I'm not going to hold you." ([42:16])

These quotes encapsulate the episode's themes of vulnerability, honesty, and the importance of supporting one another through life's challenges.

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Join Mandii B and WeezyWTF every Monday on "Decisions, Decisions" as they continue to explore the uncharted territories of love, relationships, and personal growth.

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Note: This summary omits advertisements, intros, outros, and non-content segments as per the episode guidelines.

Transcript

[Wheezy]

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[Mandy]

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[Wheezy]

Welcome to Decisions Decisions.

[Mandy]

I don't think you should say decisions, decisions. It sounded like you was talking in cursing.

[Wheezy]

You definitely say the welcome.

[Mandy]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Wheezy]

Oh wait, you want to say it together? Decisions, decisions.

[Mandy]

Hey guys, welcome to another episode on Decision Decision. I'm your girl.

[Wheezy]

Me. Are you sounding like that cuz you have a dress on?

[Mandy]

Yeah, I'm a little sophisticated, a little classy, a little demure.

[Wheezy]

What happened to her? The girl was giving demure and then we lost her because.

[Mandy]

Because a cracker went in copyrighted demure right up under her goddamn nose.

[Eden]

That is exactly what happened.

[Mandy]

Exactly.

[Wheezy]

I'm wheezy. Welcome back for another episode. We are recording this episode out of Atlanta, Georgia. So now you can live the Michael belt, baby. Five, six months.

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Wheezy]

So what's it like?

[Mandy]

And half I realized that southern hospitality ain't so. Hospitality.

[Wheezy]

Okay, Hospitality.

[Mandy]

It ain't giving what they said it was given. Now I don't know if it's because.

[Wheezy]

Oh no.

[Mandy]

Chicago. Goddamn.

[Wheezy]

Too much.

[Mandy]

I don't know if they thought the sweet tea was gonna make up for it, but these people is really slow out here.

[Wheezy]

They're slow like walking.

[Mandy]

They're slow and they don't want to be a goddamn work, I'll tell you that.

[Wheezy]

I see that baby. But I'm gonna say the southern hospitality is a little different because it's so warm. Like they're so warm and loving. Like I had a terrible waitress.

[Mandy]

Wait, who's warm and loving?

[Wheezy]

So I had some sushi in the airport because I was like in the airport.

[Eden]

Oh, whoa. Why would you do that?

[Mandy]

Sushi in the airport is nothing. You want to know what's crazy, diabolical?

[Wheezy]

In the Tulum airport, there's a Michelin starred sushi restaurant you are talking about.

[Eden]

That's not where you was at though.

[Wheezy]

I just, I'm trying to defend myself because when I called my nigga instead of eating sushi, said, I thought you were still there for a baby.

[Mandy]

What the fuck?

[Wheezy]

It was just a tilly Roll, bitch. Anyway, so the girl brought something else out and I was like, oh, this isn't what I ordered. Could I also get that water? I didn't bring you. Not that I said I was going to bring you, baby. Why you ain't say nothing to me?

[Mandy]

You know what's crazy?

[Wheezy]

And I was like, she's so cute.

[Mandy]

I ain't going to hold you, sir, ma'.

[Wheezy]

Am.

[Mandy]

And baby is not making up for incompetence. Bitch, when I tell you, bro, I have been stressed, like, because here's the thing. In New York, they be efficient as fuck.

[Wheezy]

I know they be like.

[Mandy]

They be with Vest because, bitch, they got 50, 11 people that they motherfucking got a fee.

[Wheezy]

And they get paid.

[Mandy]

They get paid some down here.

[Eden]

It's like, is that why you like.

[Mandy]

That one spot job you said? What?

[Eden]

Is that why you like that one spot that we went to, cuz? That was fast.

[Wheezy]

This isn't. Is it crazy? Great.

[Mandy]

Which one did I take your favorite?

[Eden]

No, the place that we just went to by. By that spot by.

[Mandy]

Oh, a restaurant. Yeah. Don't give it. Yeah. I don't know.

[Wheezy]

What kind of food is it?

[Mandy]

It don't matter. Because you be liking the. Say, didn't then you giving the team more work in post. Because I be like, hey, bleep that then wheezy.

[Eden]

It's barbecue. It's just barbecue. That's it.

[Mandy]

I was a barbecue spot.

[Wheezy]

Yeah.

[Eden]

What you talking about?

[Mandy]

But let me tell you. Oh, you talking about my Atlanta spot. Okay. Yeah, that one was because we sat at the bar and the bartenders know me.

[Eden]

Of course they do.

[Mandy]

They do.

[Wheezy]

Okay. Because in Atlanta, that toast at Lennox really do hit that motherfucker fried snapper. But the service, that's all saying so, but they are.

[Mandy]

I say all of that to say it's been different living down here because I'm like, what do you love and.

[Wheezy]

What do you miss?

[Mandy]

Oh, what do I love about Atlanta, Georgia? Actually something too that my boyfriend really enjoyed because he's in LA and he's from a town in the UK where he was one of the only black people. So, like, he really loves how black Atlanta was. And I think I enjoy that too. I feel. I feel more at home here than anywhere. Also, maybe the audience doesn't know. This is my third time living in Atlanta. So I went to high school here. Shout out to Lakeside. So I lived here in 05 06, moved back here 2009, 2010. This is now my third time here. Completely different Atlanta than when I Went to high school and when I moved back.

[Wheezy]

But people really say this all the time.

[Mandy]

What?

[Wheezy]

So one of my good friends, Brandon, he's on a Patreon episode. He's from Atlanta, and like he says, every time he's here and he meets people his age, he has constant conversations.

[Mandy]

About, like, this New Atlanta, Old Atlanta, New Atlanta. That was the thing. So I would say my favorite part about being here. Y' all laugh. It's the belt line.

[Wheezy]

Oh, you said you walk all the time.

[Mandy]

Three times a week, minimum. And me and my best friend do it.

[Wheezy]

How long is it?

[Mandy]

Long as. It's like, long as, like, overlap.

[Wheezy]

How long does it take you to walk?

[Mandy]

Because. Because my best friend parks the car, we go a certain amount and then walk back, so we end up doing about 2.3 miles every time we walk.

[Wheezy]

That's good.

[Mandy]

I love the ability to be so close to my friends that I've been friends with for 10 years plus, so even on Easter, my best friend Taylor, who has been my friend since 10th grade, we went to high school together here in Atlanta, she cooked. So we went over there and it was just like. It just felt really good. I also like, too, that everyone has houses because, like, you can hang out in people's houses, which is much cheaper than going out. What do you mean?

[Wheezy]

You don't do that in New York.

[Mandy]

I. I wasn't going to people's houses. No. Live with people. It's small. It's like people's house. No, not many people.

[Wheezy]

It's not as comfortable.

[Mandy]

Yeah, it's not as comfortable. What I don't like is the service here. The service is terrible everywhere. Everyone is angry, upset. I get it. Tariffs. But it is like. Like people don't seem happy here, which is crazy because you assume that in New York, everyone's miserable and hated, and you say, good morning, neighbors.

[Wheezy]

And they say, just like a standard.

[Mandy]

Possible. But I expected, like, it to just be more hospitable.

[Wheezy]

But no, really, like, when you think about it, New York has some of the best restaurants in the world. Right. When you set a standard, people know how to follow through.

[Mandy]

Right.

[Wheezy]

Who has the Atlanta standard?

[Mandy]

I don't know. Like, I'm waiting. I do.

[Wheezy]

Like, just some great food is here.

[Mandy]

Because I don't go as often. I will shout out some of the restaurants that I have been into in Atlanta that I really like. Food wise and service wise. Ate Sushi, which is my favorite restaurant. I always come here. And then roomies, roomies is Mediterranean. They have one in Colony Square and another one. But those I've experienced get.

[Wheezy]

And, I mean, I'll go try them.

[Mandy]

Yeah. And this is the worst Nobu. Of all the no booze I've ever had.

[Wheezy]

Oh, I did it. Actually, I can't talk to them because they paid me to go. But anyway.

[Mandy]

Not anything crazy.

[Wheezy]

It was a different restaurant.

[Mandy]

Oh, a different restaurant.

[Wheezy]

Okay. But, yeah, there was a. You just made me think of something when you said community. What? It feels like being around a bunch of black people. So I. As you guys probably know, my partner and I plan a date night once a month. Yesterday. Now I'm under the weather. Yesterday was my day to plan date night. So I found I wanted to. Because we love music. So I thought, let me break down music that we love. So the first spot was a listening place, like a listening bar. And this is very popular in New York now. I don't even want to say because they're getting too cool, but type in listening bar. I'm sure you'll find one. Found one that played all blues.

[Mandy]

Okay?

[Wheezy]

Then the next one was what we were going to eat. And he loves Caribbean food, so that would be reggae. Old school reggae he loves. And the next place was a jazz bar. So when we get to the Caribbean spot, it's called Mango Bay. The food was great.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

That's why I'm shouting it out. And he's like, oh, I've been here before when it was Imani's. And he's like, this place bring me a lot of memories right now. Yeah, I used to love it here. And I'm like, memories, like, what?

[Mandy]

Here you go. Wait a bitch. He was. I knew, bruh.

[Wheezy]

He was like, no, this was like my first date spot when I was young, okay? I was like, oh, all right. And then he's looking at me and he's like, why, baby? Like, I haven't been since there's a new venue or a new chef. Like, why?

[Eden]

I have a bone to pick with this shit, okay? Because.

[Wheezy]

Chill out. And I realized I was like, okay, maybe I sound silly. We're in fucking mid-30s.

[Mandy]

Like, let me give you a strong.

[Eden]

Example that I had not that long ago, right? So I don't want to say it was for her birthday, right? She wanted to go. This girl wanted to go see Aladdin, right?

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Eden]

On Broadway. Simple. Broadway, Disney, cute. Magic carpet genie, Parrot.

[Wheezy]

Get to the point. Point is, right?

[Eden]

Is that. My point is, is that what a cute experience, right? She's like, oh, my God, I want to see it. So I'm like, cool, right? I'm here, I'm about to go get.

[Wheezy]

But did you see it already?

[Eden]

Is it a problem, really, that I.

[Mandy]

Went to go see with another bitch?

[Eden]

Is it a problem that I want to go see it already?

[Mandy]

No.

[Eden]

When you want to see it so bad? And I saw it like years ago. Oh, years ago. Years ago, Years ago.

[Wheezy]

He had to do the whole same thing. I may not have even been here since like 2018. It was so.

[Eden]

No, I don't say that though. But I don't. I don't see that. That stuff you see, that's what a.

[Mandy]

Lot of you guys put a date because that was pretty.

[Eden]

It don't matter. It don't matter because for a girl, it could be 30 years, I could have been dead. It don't matter. Like, they're gonna think, okay, no, Your.

[Mandy]

Bodies before the pandemic are erased.

[Wheezy]

When we talk about, like the best beaches you ever been to.

[Mandy]

Erased.

[Eden]

It's not erased.

[Wheezy]

One of the best beaches I ever been to is Antigua.

[Mandy]

Oh, okay.

[Wheezy]

Because you went there with that. He's like, no, but I really want us to go. I think you'll love it. Why? I don't need to love it. You know how many beaches are in the world? I don't even crazy.

[Eden]

The difference is that she wanted to go to Atlanta.

[Mandy]

I know that sou crazy.

[Eden]

I know she wanted to go to Aladdin, though. And I'm here, like, I'm waiting. I'm gonna go get the tickets. We're gonna get some nice tickets. We're gonna go see Aladdin. The monkey in the G. You know my point, right?

[Mandy]

So, Right.

[Eden]

I'm fucked up for getting these tickets even though I went to Aladdin already, potentially with another woman before.

[Mandy]

You're not.

[Wheezy]

Is that because it's what she asked?

[Mandy]

Is it because. So I ain't gonna hold you.

[Eden]

She does ask.

[Mandy]

So my. My boyfriend's gonna be in New York. Well, we've been doing really good seeing each other every two and a half weeks, let me tell you.

[Eden]

That's great.

[Mandy]

So he's gonna be in. In New York next week. So I said, oh my God, I can'. Favorite restaurant. Especially cuz there's not a lot of dairy on the. On the menu. So I was like, let me take you to my favorite restaurant. So I tell them, this is the restaurant I bring everyone to. Oh, but friends, by the way, shout out. No.

[Wheezy]

Yes.

[Mandy]

They every. Everyone. That was a part of our tour video. I took them to this restaurant. So anyways, this also happens to Be the restaurant where my ex met my mom.

[Wheezy]

Sure. But does he know that?

[Mandy]

I told him everyone came to this restaurant.

[Eden]

Did you throw that issue? Did you throw that?

[Mandy]

I might have said that.

[Wheezy]

Why?

[Mandy]

I can't remember why, but nonetheless, we would have an argument. He's like, I don't want to go to your favorite restaurant because you took your ex here.

[Eden]

No, no, no. You don't want to go because you took your ex.

[Mandy]

I told you, it's not even my ex and my mom. I had to leave out three or four people I felt to this restaurant. Exes, friends, colleagues, business partners, everybody get this goddamn restaurant for me.

[Eden]

And that's why she got this paranoia.

[Mandy]

Why?

[Wheezy]

Okay, you know what it is?

[Eden]

So I'm wrong.

[Wheezy]

No, you're not wrong at all, because she requested it. But here's. Here's what makes you weird.

[Mandy]

What's weird?

[Wheezy]

Sometimes I want to have a new experience with you. So when I plan date night, thinking I'm gonna surprise you with this restaurant I found that I just saw opened a few months ago, you. And you walk in like, oh, I remember this when it used to be. I'm like, so I'm not giving you this new thing that does.

[Mandy]

You know what that sounds like. I threw this surprise birthday party for you because I've never done it for anyone else.

[Eden]

That's not bad.

[Mandy]

You're making it.

[Eden]

That's pretty bad.

[Mandy]

You want to give someone about you, bitch. He's enjoying everything that you're planning now because he's been there before. Now. You don't enjoy it when technically what you just said was this experience was for him. He's enjoying it. You shouldn't be.

[Wheezy]

Yeah, but it was to do something new. I wanted to give him a new date night.

[Mandy]

It's supposed to be something, but it's a surprise. You can't know that he ain't never been there. If you don't, it's a surprise.

[Wheezy]

Well, I literally looked at the cause, went to the shaver. I said, we ain't never eaten this again. We ain't never eat.

[Mandy]

That's od.

[Wheezy]

No more Caribbean vu. Because he win.

[Eden]

We almost didn't go. I just wanted to show her a whole new world. And the Aladdin was almost canceled because the fact that I went there, potentially, maybe with another woman at one point.

[Wheezy]

In time in my life, okay, so very. Like, let me say this. If I wanted to go on Broadway, and I said, hey, Eden, let's go see Wicked, and you said, oh, I saw it already, but I guess I could see it again. I'd be like, no, no, no, let's find something new. Would I not. Was. Is that not natural?

[Eden]

Okay, she gave. She gave that option, right? But I'm like, it was her birthday, right?

[Mandy]

If you miss pussy and she up there singing A whole new world. That's the only reason why a bitch should be upset.

[Wheezy]

Actually, no, I'm not mad at you ate her pussy. And we just. If you. Let's just.

[Mandy]

If the bitch that he used to fuck is on stage but you mad if he bought another bitch.

[Wheezy]

I'm going tell you something. It's more.

[Eden]

Jasmine was even all that.

[Wheezy]

I'm actually genuinely saying this.

[Mandy]

Alex is going to hate us. Sorry. On YouTube, the amount of holy person.

[Wheezy]

I'm about to get.

[Mandy]

Bitch, nigga, fuck every goddamn fuck.

[Eden]

I'm sorry.

[Wheezy]

How many minutes in El.

[Eden]

Enough.

[Wheezy]

Okay, so what I'm saying is basically like, let's just say we pull up to Aladdin and the girl used to just happens to be playing Jasmine.

[Eden]

That's insane.

[Wheezy]

That's not.

[Mandy]

Are you. That's all I'm like, if he tells you when y' all arrive, o, like, I can see we better off we not see this. The money you spent on these tickets. We're not going in there. You should have told me before.

[Wheezy]

I think of, like, there was a DJ that I was like, I don't care. We still.

[Mandy]

But you told before.

[Wheezy]

Okay. Yeah.

[Eden]

You'd go crazy.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Eden]

Imagine you knowing that before, and then you're watching this shit and eventually want to flip.

[Wheezy]

Oh, no.

[Eden]

I'm reminded of how she grow right there.

[Wheezy]

Okay, so let me tell you about what happened this week.

[Eden]

Oh, boy.

[Wheezy]

Okay, so the irony of this clip coming out. I don't know if you saw my stories, but the irony of the chicken wing clip coming out. The day that this happened was crazy.

[Mandy]

What happened?

[Wheezy]

So we're at home. It's a Monday night, maybe. And literally, I felt so bad. I was like, we better.

[Mandy]

Actually, it was probably a Thursday because that chicken wing clip came out second.

[Wheezy]

No, but I'm just saying this. We also.

[Mandy]

Oh, it came.

[Wheezy]

Okay, okay, okay. So we ordered Chinese food. We decided to watch. We make it a thing. Let's watch an old black movie we never see. We watched disappearing acts with so not Lengthen and Wesley Snipes in the middle of eating my Chinese food. It wasn't the bone, but maybe I took a big chunk of the meat and I felt this lump in my throat. Almost like, you know, you take a. Take a vitamin, but it's too big, and it just wouldn't move. So I'm like, let me not sure, because it can't be that serious. After about, like, 10 minutes, the lump wasn't going away. And then when I drank water, there was barely room for the water to get in because something was stuck in my throat. So I was like, I think I'm choking. He's like, how are you choking?

[Mandy]

If you could talk, like, between the braces and now this.

[Wheezy]

No, dog, dog. I was like, no, baby, I really think I'm choking. He's like, okay, well, eat something else to push it down. Is it a bone? I'm like, no, it's not sticking out, but it's not going down. He looked at me like, I'm dramatic.

[Mandy]

Very much so.

[Wheezy]

And that was what was making me more upset, because I'm not. So I'm like, let me go. Try to go throw it up. So I go in the bathroom. Oh, that's right. It was Sunday night, because we went out the night before because my throwing up made him feel nauseous just listening to it. So I was, like, trying to get it out, but it wouldn't come out. It was just keeping, like, going up and down. So then I'm sitting down. I'm like, okay, Google what to do when someone's choking. He's like, are you choking? I'm like, something stuck in my throat. I'm choking. So basically, you dip bread and water and you try to push it down. Okay, we ordered a sandwich. Literally ordered it.

[Mandy]

You ain't have bread at the house?

[Wheezy]

No, girl, I'm trying to be skinny, okay? All the bitches on YouTube, tell me about it. Okay? So I'm. I'm eating water. I'm, like, fucking drinking, drinking, drinking. Nothing's happening. Now we're going to an hour and a half. So for some reason, I don't know if it's because it was too much, but the Internet or my chest starts to hurt. Like, very sharp pain. Like. Like spazzing. And now he's looking like, what the fuck do I do? So it says, if you feel sharp pains in your chest, call 91 1. Well, damn. I was like, well, let's know.

[Mandy]

You got to call an Uber. Was you in the ambulance?

[Wheezy]

He drives, right?

[Eden]

Okay.

[Mandy]

I was about to say, girl, you better save out on the ambulance bill.

[Wheezy]

He was like, let's see what happens first. One of the other things it said to do was get a carbonated drink, like a Coca Cola. And apparently. And then we Googled when you Go to the emergency room. What do they do?

[Mandy]

Give you a Coke.

[Wheezy]

Literally.

[Mandy]

Oh, do they?

[Wheezy]

They give you a Coca Cola. Okay, so we go to the bodega together. Because I was scared to be home alone.

[Mandy]

He's, like, in bed with pharmaceuticals, girl.

[Wheezy]

I had three cans.

[Eden]

Damn.

[Mandy]

It was not for that. You should have just ate bread at the house. Like, that's bread.

[Wheezy]

Wasn't taking it well. The Coca Cola was making you burp, burp, burp.

[Mandy]

Yep.

[Wheezy]

So finally, the chest pains are getting worse, and I'm burping like crazy. I'm like, please, take me to the hospital. We get dressed. We go to the fucking hospital.

[Eden]

You try to throw up.

[Wheezy]

When it wasn't working, it was getting stuck. And it says, you don't want to get it too high up because you really choke. You want to keep it low.

[Mandy]

If it's low, you didn't, like, do the.

[Wheezy]

It didn't work.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

Mind you, I'm choking like this for two hours. We get to the first emergency room, which we didn't know was an urgent care. We just Googled Mount Sinai. We get to the East Village. I walk in. The guy, the doctor at the desk, said, this is urgent care. When he heard my symptoms, he said, your chest hurts, and there's food stuck, and I'm tearing up. He's like, either I call 911 or you need to prove to me you're going to a hospital. I'm like. Because my phone. He was like, oh, not letting me leave. I'm like, my boyfriend's right outside. He's like, you need to call him. Of course I'm in a rush. I ain't got my phone. Do you know what it's like to have to remember somebody's body? I'm like, 646. Six.

[Eden]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

Finally, I get him on the phone.

[Mandy]

He knows. Crazy. I don't even know what boyfriend I'm a start with.

[Wheezy]

Not even the first number.

[Eden]

It's like a 501, right?

[Mandy]

No, I. I don't know.

[Wheezy]

It's not even a plus four. Four.

[Mandy]

No, no, no Forgetting an American number, Yo.

[Eden]

I keep forgetting that. And that's why I thought you don't.

[Mandy]

Have a. I don't know at all the first three numbers. I don't even know the zip code of my boyfriend number. That's crazy, girl.

[Wheezy]

So they about to call 911. Thank God I knew this nigga's number. He comes back around. Then he goes, take me to the emergency room. And he's just looking at me and I'm like, you think I'm being dramatic? You think being dramatic? Because the last thing that happened was he had to fucking break open your braces. He's like, no, baby, I don't. It's fine. He drops me off at triage. I get to the front and I'm like, this. Because it's getting worse, girl. They take me immediately. Here's the gag. No, literally, I was about to say, they took me down and I can't breathe because it's getting worse. And the woman's like, quick question, do you suffer from anxiety? And I'm like, no, nothing.

[Mandy]

I was having a little attack.

[Eden]

No.

[Wheezy]

So because my chest was hurting, they hooked me up to this ekg. Oh, my God. Mind you, I'm in the middle. Everybody's looking at me too. It's like they know there's no curtains. This is like emergency triage in the room. There's like 30 people looking at me. They're hooking me up to all these tabs, all these things on my fingers. And then finally a nurse comes over and she's like, where do you feel it? I point to where I feel it. She's like, let me put gloves on. She did some kind of trick with my throat, which I don't know what kind of dick sucking tip this is, but it opened it up and it. It got it out, right? So I felt it go away. But now I'm like, I'm hooked up to all these machines. Do I keep this whole charade?

[Mandy]

No, she solved the problem.

[Wheezy]

So I'm like, I think it's fixed. And they're like, well, we have chest pains. We have to stay. And I'm like, I think, okay. And I'm like, oh, my God. Now my boyfriend's walking in after he.

[Mandy]

Parked the car, and I'm sitting there.

[Wheezy]

And I'm just like, oh, do I hunch over so you're not like this Got outside the house at three in the morning eating Chinese food, girl. The doctor came over. She was like, so it was a chicken wing. I was like, I never told you it was chicken. I said, it was Chinese food, you racist. And then she was like, well, we're gonna hook you up to some IVs back.

[Mandy]

I said, oh, no, no, I don't.

[Wheezy]

Need to pay this much.

[Mandy]

I feel better now that I say, don't MRI me, Don't ultrasound me.

[Wheezy]

Wow, bitch. We get in the car and I was like, when you walked in there, you saw I was feeling bad. Yes, I did. I thought myself, I Knew if this bitch just waited one more minute, she would have burped it up. Girl was. So we got home at 4 o' clock in the morning, bitch really was out 3 hours dealing with emergency room shit because I was choking. And I just want to say shout out to this nigga for being a trooper, because I literally looked at him, I was like, you know when bitches be like, would you love me if I was a worm?

[Eden]

That is you.

[Wheezy]

I was looking at him, I was like, when I was in the hospital.

[Mandy]

Look at me like, you hated me.

[Wheezy]

Or you love me? He's like, oh, baby, no. What the dog Choking is close to drowning, though. No lie.

[Mandy]

Like, this is. Well, yeah.

[Wheezy]

You ever choked on a bone, it's asphyxiation. Oh, my God. There was. I literally was crying. I'm like, I think my die. I was so scared.

[Eden]

Oh.

[Wheezy]

And apparently the doctor said when you have braces, a lot of people forget to chew their food because you have to chew it like, double.

[Mandy]

How do you forget if you got to do it double?

[Wheezy]

Because naturally when you're eating, you don't chew that much, but it's harder to break down the food.

[Mandy]

Crazy.

[Wheezy]

Anyway, so that was my new adventure. Also, shout out to the nurse that need me. Very embarrassing. When they hooked me up to ekg, she walking by with a little clip.

[Eden]

Where she was like, wheezy.

[Wheezy]

And I could tell she looked twice. And I was like, girl, get me.

[Mandy]

In and out of here.

[Wheezy]

Not somebody.

[Mandy]

You a hazard, literally, at this point.

[Eden]

Yeah, you are a hazard.

[Mandy]

Every time we in the studio is something medical.

[Wheezy]

Is it.

[Eden]

Am I breaking the braces, choking on a bone? Allegedly.

[Wheezy]

Well, I'm ready to get rid of these braces. And then you know what he said to me? Trying to try to be funny, but not be funny. When we got home, he was real quiet. He was like, I feel like you're the type of person that needs the top of the premium insurance if we're going to be doing this kind of. If we gonna be going to the hospital. You need the best of the best. You don't need no little bullshit like you got.

[Eden]

We might need to put you in a bubble, literally. You ever seen Bubble boy?

[Mandy]

Not bubble boy is crazy, bro. Well, then you really gonna lose weight anyway. You're gonna be skinny, bro.

[Wheezy]

Let me tell you something. Me and Rihanna, I'm like, you don't know how much anxiety I have because I'm on birth control. And I get.

[Mandy]

You do have anxiety.

[Wheezy]

No, no.

[Mandy]

But you. You told a medical official you Lied to the medical professional.

[Wheezy]

I'm anxiety girl. Hello.

[Mandy]

But you.

[Wheezy]

Guess what? You choked.

[Mandy]

You said, no, I ain't got anxiety. You lied. I also lie.

[Wheezy]

When they asked me how many people, I texted, whoa.

[Mandy]

You should not be ashamed.

[Eden]

How dare you live in your truth?

[Wheezy]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Mandy]

They only ask you in the last 12 months.

[Wheezy]

Oh.

[Mandy]

They don't ask your lifetime. When you go, which type of people have you had sex with in your lifetime?

[Eden]

That's what it feels like, though, when I do ask you that question, last.

[Mandy]

12 months, then they say, men or women? And then you say both.

[Eden]

Well, y' all say both.

[Mandy]

Sorry.

[Eden]

Why y' all put that on me? Dennis.

[Mandy]

Pause.

[Wheezy]

Okay, y'. All. Mandy, tell me how much you hate getting a fee on something.

[Mandy]

I hate it. Especially the ones that are hidden. The ones where you see there's a total and then next thing you know, there's a fee at the end, like rentals for the weekend and concert tickets.

[Wheezy]

For me, it's a missed payment because, girl, we've been busy, okay? And honestly, every dollar counts for me. I got vacations to go on.

[Mandy]

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[Wheezy]

O N S. Okay, Can I tell you my favorite part? Forget the fee, girl. Getting paid two days early. That's what I'm talking about. Up to two days early with direct deposit.

[Mandy]

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[Wheezy]

It's just always so convenient considering you never know what time zone you in. It might be 3am we in the club. We need that car to work the tools helping me with just balance updates and letting me know where I'm at in real time. That's what I'm talking about.

[Mandy]

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[Wheezy]

After our catch up every episode. So we're gonna be doing something fun. We're gonna give you snippets. Eden and Mandy gave me a number and I'm gonna read from the case or I'll give you one.

[Mandy]

Oh, okay. Give me a number.

[Wheezy]

69. Is it mine or yours?

[Mandy]

Course, 69.

[Eden]

I was gonna say that too.

[Mandy]

So 69 comes from my chapter.

[Wheezy]

Ooh.

[Mandy]

Up until the age of 13 or 14, I had no idea about almost anything when it came to sex besides insert penis and vagina. That's all I'm going to get.

[Wheezy]

Like I knew the way.

[Mandy]

This is my chapter. Can I put it back there?

[Wheezy]

Can you put it back? Yes.

[Mandy]

Me talking about all of my ups and downs and unlearning problematic ways in which we learned about anal sex and my thoughts around and me acknowledging my own homophobia.

[Wheezy]

Oh, yeah, that was a good chapter.

[Mandy]

Kind of put it back there.

[Wheezy]

Give me a number. I'm going to give 286.

[Mandy]

I'm going to give you the number 112.

[Wheezy]

Okay. I didn't like you to think of the number 2.

[Mandy]

112.

[Wheezy]

That is so creepy.

[Mandy]

Oh.

[Wheezy]

Oh, okay, this is just so. Oh, this is kind of sad.

[Mandy]

Oh, this is from the page chapter. Oh, no. Okay.

[Wheezy]

It got dark.

[Eden]

Give me, give me, give me.

[Mandy]

No, no, no, don't read it. Don't read it.

[Eden]

Give me 42.

[Wheezy]

Okay.

[Eden]

No, actually, I'm lying. Give me 49.

[Wheezy]

Okay. Get us out of here.

[Mandy]

Oh, I'm not gonna hold it.

[Wheezy]

Okay, this is Funny. The first word on the page, it's Mandy's. What the fuck is this? It was so interesting that I found this feeling of safety and complete ease with two strangers. And I decided to say fuck it yet again.

[Eden]

Nice. Love it.

[Mandy]

Yes.

[Wheezy]

Good save.

[Mandy]

Good sick. It's crazy because. And I'll share with you guys. I have wrapped filming the audible version of this, and I assume Weezy just landed in the pain chapter. So I chose because they were the easiest ones for me to write because I was like. So for the pain chapter, you chose.

[Wheezy]

Pain to read first?

[Mandy]

I chose pain first.

[Wheezy]

Damn, bitch.

[Eden]

Sorry.

[Mandy]

I am reading my. It was my Damn. I can't remember now. It was either my abortion chapter or my sexual. I believe it was my sexual assault chapter. I get done reading it, I come out of the booth and the engineer is sobbing. Oh, and like. And I don't want to. A woman, black girl. So I'm reading through my pain chapter, and she has no idea what she's recording. Bitch, they record future. And Ranborn is in the studio, so she has no clue. She's just on the schedule recording Black girl. Shout out to her. I come out the studio and she's like, I need a break. Because normally they take breaks based on me. And she's like, can I get a hug?

[Wheezy]

And she's sobbing and she's like, what she been through?

[Mandy]

And she's like, this book is so important. Thank you. And I'm just like. Like, I'm now crying because so during reading this, there's two chapters where I literally start crying reading it. And mind you didn't cry writing it. But as I read it, because I'm talking from the voice of myself and talking to my mom or myself talking to people who made me feel like I should expect my sexual assault. And as I'm reading the words, I literally start choking up. And, bitch, your voice can't be cracking for the audiobook.

[Wheezy]

Do they keep it? What do they do?

[Mandy]

No, no, no, no. Of all the things we've done, reading this book for y' all literally is one of the most mentally draining and hardest things I think I've ever had to done. What the other shit about the podcast in a. It's. It's literally.

[Eden]

Well, we're.

[Mandy]

We're only doing the shared chapters. Bitch, hard as fuck. Like, I was hitting on my best friend. Like, bitch, I need a drink.

[Wheezy]

We need to renegotiate.

[Mandy]

No, bitch, when I tell you, oh, yeah, we ain't get paid enough. That shit was hard. So if you Guys did not know no Holes Barred is also available on Audible audibly. However you listen to your audiobooks, Kindle, all of that. Do also purchase the hardcover. And also we're going on tour bringing the pages to the stages. Make sure you come and support us for the no Holds Bar Torch.

[Wheezy]

Well, let's lighten it up with some reactionary bullshit. Okay? I actually want to Show Y' all two DeLulu clips.

[Mandy]

Not two DeLulu.

[Wheezy]

This is the first.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[E]

I had a radical heart shift from that moment. I got in my word, under my word. I just completely changed as a person. And I realized that God loves me, that God has a purpose and plan for my life, that God chose me, that I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. So he would call me out my name. It wouldn't bother me because I allowed God's voice to be louder than his. And when I was going through transition of him not coming home on the weekends, not being there, telling me, I hate you. I'll never love you. I wish I never married you. I knew that life and death is in the power of the tongue through the word of God. So I would say, you will love me one day. We will have a good marriage one day. And although he would go out for weekends, I would literally help him get ready to go meet a side chick by ironing his clothes and getting them ready for the night. And these are all things I was graced to do. I would not encourage anybody to do that unless you are graced by God to do do this. But once I knew who I was, I realized now, here's why.

[Eden]

Sinners exist.

[Wheezy]

Well, one. Oh, my God. I almost brought up sinners just now.

[Mandy]

Okay, you, you, you say what you got to say. And I'm going say what I got to say, because I might lean a.

[Wheezy]

Little at this point. Everyone's seeing sinners, right? The reason it made me think think about sinners, I was like, yo, okay. So I told a friend who is very scared of scary movies, don't worry. God kind of wins in the end.

[Mandy]

And you said that on a call with Black Effect. And they said, bitch, don't tell us the end.

[Wheezy]

He doesn't win in the end.

[Mandy]

No.

[Wheezy]

Because when Sammy's praying. Spoiler.

[Eden]

Hold on, bro.

[Mandy]

People may still haven't seen it.

[Wheezy]

Y' all niggas better seen that shit right now. But when he's praying, they're not dying from the prayer. They died from the sunset. And it just kind of exposes how bullshitty church folk are. This woman was a Pastor, this is not people that believe in God, by.

[Mandy]

The way, church folk.

[Wheezy]

Y' all know the ones I'm talking about. You're telling me God made you do this? Although in the Bible don't they talk about cheating? Okay, because from what I know, when you guys make the vow to be with each other, to honor each other, how is one thing that God wants for you not the same as the vows you made that day? And it's a big disappointment to watch somebody who's leading a congregation and telling us what she would allow someone to do to her because God wanted it.

[Mandy]

So when I heard her speak of this, I think first off, y' all know I think religion is a cult. That's my. My views and thoughts on that. However, what I got from this clip is that she's using the name of.

[Wheezy]

God to save her very scripture.

[Mandy]

Nope, to explain her ethic, her non monogamous viewpoint on relationships. The fact that you were ironing your man's clothes to go see his side chick is just you using God as an excuse to actually say that you're okay with.

[Wheezy]

I didn't get that because she brought up him cursing her out. Well, it didn't seem like she was well.

[Mandy]

And then he stepped out, he cheated. I knew you'd come back and be a good husband to me. I let you go like that. To me was God said that you would come back to me. Bitch, I'm going to let you go do what you want to do because I'm going to stay here whether you cheating on me or not, whether you're a good partner or not. To me, it is actually her using God as an excuse to admit that she don't really love herself. She doesn't believe she deserves better. She loves this nigga through anything. And the fact that you fucking on another bitch don't bother me. So let me just sit here and say God's voice is louder when she.

[Wheezy]

Talks about how he treated her, like he was calling me out of my name.

[Mandy]

That's my point where she doesn't believe she deserves better, so she gonna put up with the nigga she love. And God said, okay, now here's a.

[Wheezy]

Comment that I think is insane. Love you though, Jay Murphy. He said it sounds very wild, but it also sounds like she was very serious about the covenant she made with God. Despite the infidelity, marriages are spiritual, legal agreements in the spiritual realm as well as the physical. Till death do us part literally means death is the only thing that can separate. And nowadays we're Accustomed to divorce for our own reasons that hold validity in our eyes. But when people stay and fight, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. She stayed the fuck down and didn't have to seem delusional, but it's a true reflection of her character and heart. Most women wouldn't last a day in her shoes because they would have been checked out. And that's fine too.

[Mandy]

You know what sounds like, can we all send. Can we call a spade a spade?

[Wheezy]

What?

[Mandy]

It sounded more crazy, but we absolutely accepted. When Gia said it, I asked her why she didn't leave the marriage after Envy cheated on her and did. What did she say? Just for the kids. And she said the only explanation.

[Wheezy]

And I put it in God. God is different than Gia though, because God, Envy admitted he cheated.

[Mandy]

That nigga was sitting right there being saying, yup, Gia, yup.

[Wheezy]

Gia was talking about forgiveness with God.

[Mandy]

Like I.

[Wheezy]

In my opinion, I don't know if you heard that, but to me, when she brought up God, it was like, hey, I found forgiven forgiveness.

[Mandy]

This to me, she just didn't say.

[Wheezy]

She said she was graced by God to iron his clothes for another bitch because.

[Mandy]

Because through God, he didn't know if he cheated, but through God, she got through it. But that's what I'm saying. To me it's the same thing. One sounds nicer than the other.

[Wheezy]

I don't want to look.

[Mandy]

One is explained differently because they both say speak differently. She sounds a lot more preachy. Gia said, said it in a way that was, I think, more digestible for us to not question.

[Wheezy]

I think it was probably relatable too, because a lot of times in hard relationships I'm pulling up another dulu clip. But a lot of times in. And also Gia didn't sound delulu to me.

[Mandy]

That's why I said it's the way she's sounding. This woman sounds more preachy. And leaning into God is the all great matter as to why she's accepting bullshit.

[Wheezy]

But she was accepting bullshit while Ghia was forgiving.

[Mandy]

Accepting and forgiving. No, I don't see a huge line with that. Oh, let's agree to disagree on this. Accepting and forgiving, what is the difference to you?

[Wheezy]

Okay.

[Mandy]

And accepting that something happened and forgiving it, are they not the same?

[Wheezy]

Here's the difference. To me, forgiveness means you've approached me with a mistake you made.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

That you aren't going to do again.

[Mandy]

And a mistake is not falling into other pussy. But if you want to use mistakes.

[Wheezy]

Sure, sure, whatever it is. Like you did something wrong.

[Mandy]

Okay, You.

[Wheezy]

You're not. You don't want to do it again, you're owning up to it. Fine. Accepting bullshit. Looks like if Envy was having Ghia.

[Mandy]

Eyeing the fucking clothes and calling her.

[Wheezy]

A bitching whore in the middle of it. Because that's what this nigga is saying. I do not think the two. I mean, obviously their situation isn't as crazy. That's probably why it's bad. But yeah, maybe in that scenario it's.

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[Wheezy]

Okay, here's another crazy couple. I don't know if y' all remember, this is an old clip too. There was a.

[Mandy]

A big infidelity in New York that took me 10 years to heal from.

[F]

10 years.

[Mandy]

10 years.

[F]

And we were going through the motions because with that infidelity, you don't want to wish it on your worst enemy. We had to experience murder through that. I. I was held at gunpoint with my own gun and watched the mistresses I was living with at that time killed in front of me, which she had to bear that burden too. Yeah, we. We lost our home to arson.

[Mandy]

Our home was burned down.

[F]

Then an innocent person was killed rushing to the fire of our house burning down because of our mess.

[Mandy]

It was hard to get through and we had, we had some counseling and we thought that we were all.

[Wheezy]

Now here's the thing.

[Mandy]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. So as the story goes, bitches and innocent lives was lost because you couldn't keep your dick in your pants and she stood up.

[Wheezy]

Here's the. Here's what? Apparently, as the story goes, the mistress had someone come get her killed her lit their house on fire. I don't know if it was one of her. Wait, wait.

[Mandy]

The mistress said who? Come get what? Explain this to me.

[Wheezy]

Okay, so the mistress set him up for robbery.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

And the robbers offed the mistress.

[Mandy]

Damn.

[Wheezy]

What? Yes. And from what? Apparently, reports are the husband and the wife's house burnt down.

[Mandy]

From another mistress. Cause who just set they house on fire? Probably another bitch that was mad.

[Wheezy]

Apparently, it had to do with the setup.

[Mandy]

So just because this nigga cheated, they lost their home? A bitch lost her life. Whoever came to put the fire out, they died, too.

[Wheezy]

And now you telling me cause you want a new pussy that bad?

[Mandy]

No, but also, she's still with him.

[Wheezy]

At what point do we say, I don't know? Life alone is not that bad. You was living with the mistress, and that bitch sat your ass up.

[Mandy]

Till death do us part. No.

[Wheezy]

Kill me. Kill the girl.

[Mandy]

No. That is. You know what? I ain't gonna hold you.

[Wheezy]

My spirit will live.

[Mandy]

I want. I want to know how she had to have moved out the city, made all new friends, got a new job, and disowned her family. Because I don't see how she could be sitting next to the nigga that caused all that.

[Wheezy]

She said.

[Mandy]

And everyone just is like, look at this.

[Wheezy]

I love that y'. All.

[Mandy]

I just said, y' all better drill this.

[Wheezy]

She said, I mean, you know, it took us a while to get through it. I'm trying to pull up the comments a lot of people had.

[Mandy]

How do you get through, nigga, two people died and you lost your house.

[Wheezy]

I don't know how you get through it. Obviously, a lot of therapy, but no.

[Mandy]

There isn't therapy in the goddamn world.

[Wheezy]

And to me, well, here's the thing. You probably trauma bond through the whole fucking thing.

[Mandy]

You do.

[Wheezy]

So the whole time is going on.

[Mandy]

He got fighting you, nigga, you making it seem like we got through this. This mishap together. Nigga, you are the culprit. You caused all this shit, and now I gotta go through this shit with you?

[Wheezy]

And that's the thing. He just saw someone die. So now he's like, oh, my God, baby.

[Mandy]

Bitch, you know what's crazy?

[Wheezy]

Someone said maybe. Never mind me, bro.

[Mandy]

She was consoling him over the loss of his mistress.

[Wheezy]

Not.

[Mandy]

He was probably crying to her, mad that he lost the pussy.

[Wheezy]

But it's not even that. Maybe because he just saw someone die is traumatic.

[Mandy]

The bitch that he was that he probably liked just as much as her.

[Eden]

Or even a little more.

[Mandy]

No, he was Crying on her.

[Eden]

This is so sad.

[Mandy]

No, traumatic. These nuts. I just lost. Wait.

[Wheezy]

This is so crazy.

[Eden]

I just lost my best.

[Wheezy]

This was a queen.

[Eden]

My best hater.

[Mandy]

Tasha. I just lost. Lost the woman. What did motherfucker Power say when motherfucker Angela died? Tasha, please. I'm grieving the love of my life to his wife. Y' all remember that? Y' all remember that? N said that this is. This is ghost.

[Wheezy]

Like that.

[Mandy]

This is ghosty.

[Wheezy]

They had to make her light skinned and Puerto Rican and shit.

[Mandy]

Listen, that wasn't good. We don't know what the mistress looked like.

[Wheezy]

Okay, wait. So some people are saying, oh, this is the story that she set him up is a rumor. Other people are fighting, but it says that's what he said may have happened. For all we know, the killer was telling that story is to bring suspicions away from him.

[Mandy]

Oh, wait. Maybe he killed her.

[Wheezy]

This is t. The three robbers were never confirmed. The police can't even prove there were three robbers, mind you. They threatened him with a gun, his gun, but decided to stab her and slit her throat.

[Mandy]

Wait a second. You want to know who this reminds me of? Eden. I don't know if you can fact check because I don't have my phone. There's a really big. I just watched this documentary. There's a big time football player who ended up dying. And the story is the Spanish nigga. No, no, no, no. That's Aaron Hernandez. He was killing.

[Eden]

He had that cte.

[Mandy]

Yeah. All right, so the story is there's this football player who was married who had a whole nother house and mistress and everything. This young bitch that he met at like Twin Peaks or some shit like that. He ends up dying. Come to find out, she says, they claim that it's another nigga, xyz. Come to find out, her other lover. And her. The mistress went and killed him.

[Wheezy]

Oh.

[Mandy]

Because she was. He was trying to break up with her and they tried to put it on a whole nother nigga. But yeah, the mistress. All I know is there was a false story created. It's on Netflix. Look up football players killed by mistress.

[Eden]

Steve McNair and I didn't even know.

[Wheezy]

Netflix, Steve McNair. No, I don't need to watch this before I go to bed alone.

[Mandy]

Girl, they scary. It's real life.

[Eden]

In real life, killed by jealous girlfriend.

[Mandy]

See?

[Wheezy]

Hella scary.

[Mandy]

Killed by jealous girlfriend.

[Wheezy]

Every time I'm in a hotel room and I start watching scary stuff, I'd.

[Mandy]

Be like, so stuff like this. If those three robbers were never Found that nigga might be a psychopath. He probably killed the mistress because the mistress was going to tell the wife. I done seen a lot of motherfucking lines.

[Wheezy]

Someone said, this has been 10 years old, and there's so many misinformed stories over the years. Someone else said, girl, I googled it and the blogs got it. He definitely set that whole up.

[Mandy]

Hold on. Another story, because this is what I be liking. Y'. All, look up. It's another documentary on Netflix and it actually. This nigga who tried to kill his wife, who actually killed his wife and tried to claim it a murder suicide for an insurance policy, ended up starting a whole race war in Boston in the fucking 80s. Look at. But literally on some lies, bro. Niggas will do whatever. Do whatever for money. It's a cover. They lie.

[Wheezy]

How much money are you gonna kill me for?

[Mandy]

Can you tell me?

[Wheezy]

You trying to get it together. It was.

[Eden]

Chuck Stewart.

[Mandy]

Chuck Stewart. Thank you, Chuck Stewart. Bastin literally started a whole race war in.

[Eden]

Can I be so honest? There's two reasons I don't cheat.

[Mandy]

No, two.

[Wheezy]

Only two.

[Mandy]

It should be way more.

[Eden]

One is that I don't want to, like, die because I feel like cheating will and has caused a lot of people to be murdered. And two, I don't think I'd be good at it.

[Mandy]

Yeah.

[Eden]

Cheating kind of hard. You would tell on me.

[Mandy]

I might tell on you.

[Wheezy]

Why would you?

[Mandy]

Because I don't like cheaters.

[Eden]

Well, then I'm not gonna tell you.

[Mandy]

As long as we've been having this pod, I'll tell you to open up. Swing. Let him go get some more coochie. Do something. But be honest.

[Eden]

Yeah, I don't think I'll be good.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Eden]

I don't think. I don't think I'd be good at it. Like, myself. Like, my subconscious would, like, hurt, like, a lot.

[Mandy]

Cops is all.

[Eden]

Not for the cheating.

[Wheezy]

I think the thing is, like, stepping over your tracks, that becomes difficult. Like, think about when I. I think about when I was cheating, and I was like, damn. Sometimes I would tell them what happened to me for the day. And I told the same story.

[Mandy]

Oh, my God.

[Wheezy]

Babe, let me. You just told me that. And I'd be like, damn, I thought I was going to phone my other boyfriend. Like, yeah, that's why I can't.

[Mandy]

Well, no, no, no. The way you just said. Yeah, I told a friend. Bitch told us on the Black Effect call.

[Wheezy]

No, I told a friend that told.

[Mandy]

Us, so you be repeating stories, so that's okay.

[Eden]

Yeah, so it Makes sense.

[Wheezy]

You good?

[Eden]

I would put that up, babe.

[Mandy]

You know I'll be repeating she. I was talking about home girl.

[Wheezy]

I see. Never again. Okay, so let's dig into Kama Sutra. What do you know about Kamasutra?

[Mandy]

That on the COVID of the books.

[Wheezy]

It be looking like this, basically, but sexy. Okay.

[Mandy]

So I'm gonna be like touch points and moving and looking and like it's sexual.

[Eden]

There's different positions.

[Mandy]

So all the positions I knew it.

[Wheezy]

Was Kama Sutra as Indian positions, not Indian position.

[Eden]

I mean, that's a pretty good.

[Wheezy]

Okay, well, let me read it because there's more to it that I did not know.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

Kama Sutra is the principles of love from ancient Hindu text.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

So it's considered the oldest textbook in Hindu on erotic love, covering more than just sexual positions, not survival on sex. Basically. I think like there's like a bunch of books you could buy. It's like almost like a calendar.

[Eden]

Yeah.

[Wheezy]

But the interesting thing is it also includes aspects of love. Love, Release My Braces, Love, relationships and the art of living. The authority is believed to have compiled and systematized this knowledge. Okay, here's what's crazy. I thought it was all sexual. These people were so free. And Kama Sutra is often shown as something liberal and progressive. But it was only the sex part. Because it's so many people in ancient times in India and today that fall victim to the prejudices of this text. It vets the caste system.

[Mandy]

Okay.

[Wheezy]

It is instance and it literally forbids intercast sex. What is.

[Mandy]

What is.

[Wheezy]

The cast system is like society, Right?

[Eden]

Yes.

[Wheezy]

Right. So you can't fuck someone lower than you.

[Eden]

Social classes.

[Mandy]

Social class.

[Wheezy]

Social class. That's. Thank you. That's better. So, yeah, you can't someone under your social class based on common suit. I like that.

[Mandy]

No, you don't, bro, because don't deserve no pussy. I never asked. Right.

[Wheezy]

What about rich niggas who want to fuck you?

[Mandy]

Bitch, I'm rich now. How rich?

[Wheezy]

Rich enough 1% for blacks and one of them is crazy.

[Mandy]

Period.

[Wheezy]

I these.

[Eden]

What about Jason Momoa?

[Mandy]

He ain't white, but I'm not these white people. Within my community, I'm doing very well.

[Wheezy]

Okay, so that's great. Principles of love. So in the first section, they laid the groundwork of the text by defining comma, which is the pursuit of desire. Okay. Explaining that attraction and passion need to connect to the heart. Which Mandy would like to hear because she says she'll want to fuck. No unleadings.

[Mandy]

It don't.

[Eden]

Or Broke.

[Wheezy]

Understanding your own desires is actually the key to a good life. The next one, getting a partner. The second section of Kama Sutra covers courtship and marriage, in which he talks about the qualities to look for in a partner. Physical beauty is first virtue and then compatibility.

[Mandy]

So me saying I like this.

[Wheezy]

I know you do.

[Mandy]

Because I be fucking niggas off they looks and I never sometimes get to the third one. We don't be compatible, but as long as we both are attracted, that's fine.

[Wheezy]

Now, we're not compatible with being together.

[Mandy]

But I do believe in chemistry. What was number two?

[Wheezy]

Oh, physical beauty, virtue and compatibility.

[Mandy]

What the is virtue?

[Wheezy]

Is it their own ambition? I don't know.

[Mandy]

I don't be talking about ambition when we talk about the dick now the dude. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Before we get there, I do want to know what virtue is, because virtue definition.

[Wheezy]

Are we dumb?

[Mandy]

No, no.

[Eden]

You Google virtue.

[Mandy]

Oh, behavior showing high moral standards. Oh, I don't think that how he gets out of our Jewish.

[Wheezy]

Probably not.

[Eden]

You probably.

[Mandy]

Basically, if a ever dated a drug dealer, you don't be looking at me.

[Eden]

You big vice for sure.

[Mandy]

You ever was a side chick to a married. You not looking at virtue vice. If that might have a body under his belt. What morals, man. You know what I mean? If he ain't pay his taxes, what morals?

[Wheezy]

I mean, that's a no, that doesn't count.

[Eden]

I was gonna say, I'm like, you.

[Wheezy]

See them Texas could be a good person.

[Mandy]

A scammer cannot be a good person.

[Eden]

That could be Robin Hood.

[Wheezy]

Oh, that's a good one.

[Mandy]

Do you know, like, that's how they say all the mob people because they hand out turkeys, we could take away their bodies because they was feeding the poor.

[Eden]

That ain't the same.

[Mandy]

It is. That's Robin Hood.

[Wheezy]

It's not.

[Mandy]

Pablo Escobar was giving turkeys and then Chava.

[Wheezy]

Well, no, he was killing Mexico. They had terrible.

[Eden]

But he was like, really like. Yeah, he was doing a lot of shit.

[Wheezy]

Okay.

[Mandy]

So level could kill. Let's do Al Capone.

[Wheezy]

He was in the third section about the duties in a marriage, and he explains the role of a wife in the household, and that is only to support the husband and the family.

[Mandy]

Wait, Kamasutra gets into marriage. Did not know that.

[Wheezy]

Then the next one. Other men's wives. The fourth text. Oh, in this section, they talk about cooking. Sarita is about extramarital relationships, seduction and desire. Beyond marriage. He explores the dynamics of attraction and infidelity and the motivations towards it in societal norms and why many deem it to be controversial. He says it is meant to be about the many ways that people express love and desire. It is human experience and connection.

[Mandy]

So human experience is infidelity.

[Wheezy]

Like basically infidelity isn't as. Which is crazy because we're talking about virtue.

[Mandy]

Well, not only that, no. But we also talk about ethical non monogamy a lot. So as long as you understand it's human nature and not niggas can just be like, I'm a. I'm a man, so of course I'm gonna do it. But there's. It's human nature to. To be able to look at someone and be aroused. To not have the wandering eye if your partner is insecure and care.

[Wheezy]

And that's infidelity sometimes goes back to religion, which this isn't necessarily covered.

[Mandy]

Interesting.

[Wheezy]

But he's like about the love expression itself. It is literally human experience and connection.

[Mandy]

I don't know if we looked this up, but is that. Is the Hindu religion much like Islam? Do they allow multiple wives in Hinduism?

[Wheezy]

I don't know. But I mean it says other men's wives. So like it might be now the next session section is interesting and I love this one. It's about cortisones. Do you know what a cortisone is?

[Mandy]

The cream?

[Wheezy]

It's a bitch who sells pussy. Not the cortisone.

[Mandy]

Oh, cortisone.

[Eden]

I thought that's what my dealer sells.

[Mandy]

So I. But it's a Jezebel in.

[Wheezy]

In brothels today in Nevada. What is it?

[Eden]

We in Atlanta?

[Mandy]

No, no, it's because I'm watching Handmaid's Tales.

[Wheezy]

Okay. So women who held significant social power to in back in this time period for Hinduism described skills and seductions and relationships with patrons. So he would give a glimpse into dynamics of love and desires and how courtesans were also practical for this society. Because he believed that you do need to go out there and people. And then the final text is seven and it's literally the positions. It encourages people to approach sex with love, curiosity and passion and teaches you how to have physical pleasure beyond just the physical but psychological enjoyment. So if you look up all the positions, it's crazy because I thought Kama Sutra was just the positions, but it means all this other shit.

[Mandy]

I do also want to add. In Hinduism they do not accept the practice of polygamy.

[Eden]

And so funny. My search said otherwise.

[Mandy]

What is. Well, what is your search?

[Eden]

Are you talking about in India or are you talking about.

[Mandy]

No no, Hinduism.

[Wheezy]

Hinduism is religious.

[Mandy]

Yeah. Hinduism is a text. So in India. Yes. Because in India it's split between, well, Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam. Like Muslim Islamic religion. The Islam religion does allow multiple wives. So, yeah, in India, because there's Islams. I'm trying to sound smart. Don't the Latin.

[Wheezy]

Sorry. Because there's Islams.

[Mandy]

But also, y' all already know. The only Muslim experience I have is the Harlem one.

[Wheezy]

Oh, girl, we trying.

[Mandy]

Muscles are different.

[Wheezy]

Please, no more.

[Mandy]

Actually, no. I'm in Atlanta now. I met not one Muslim. Do you know how everybody has pork?

[Wheezy]

They're not here.

[Mandy]

I love it. The greens. Pork. When I go and order a sandwich, they say, you want bacon. There ain't no question of other bacon down here.

[Eden]

Is there any halal sponsors?

[Mandy]

They don't even know what halal is in Atlanta.

[Wheezy]

What you just said, like, hello.

[Mandy]

The only thing they know, they got some vegan spots, they got some plant based spots.

[Wheezy]

That's a hotel.

[Mandy]

That's it. But baby, when I say pork is in abundance down here, I'm loving it. I'm loving it. Okay, well, if you guys want to.

[Wheezy]

Look up Kama Sutra, I would only go to the positions because this other shit is a little too outdated for me. Beats.

[Mandy]

You think it's outdated?

[Wheezy]

I think the idea that sex is super just for pleasure, like, I think we're too much of conscious human beings now. And when you look up the fourth text, which he talks about the cortisone, like how they're like there's their society, how they're needed in patriarchy and all this shit, like we are sex workers. He's saying, yeah, patriarchy.

[Mandy]

I believe that.

[Wheezy]

Right. But to me, it makes women more disposable. The wife's only thing is to support the family and keep the husband intact. There's nothing about women having sex for pleasure in here. This is male centered.

[Mandy]

I know it's male centered, but the overall notion though of it, and maybe it's because we can now express our desire, need of pleasure. I think it's actually healthy in today to have a book teaching that sex can be just pleasurable. Yeah. Instead of being. Instead of being for us, it's not maternal. Like in Christianity, women should only have sex to bear children.

[Wheezy]

Right.

[Mandy]

That's, that's. That.

[Wheezy]

That's a fair point.

[Mandy]

You know what I mean?

[Wheezy]

That to know something that old and it says you can fuck for pleasure. I think it's just that it's always at the expense of a woman having to bear the brunt of bullshit.

[Mandy]

Well, duh, because these niggas don't be doing the work. But also the Indian don't do it.

[Wheezy]

The Hindu niggas don't do it. What'd you say?

[Mandy]

The Islamists? The Muslims?

[Wheezy]

No, no.

[Mandy]

The Protestants, The Catholics.

[Wheezy]

Now, what about the Chinese people from Sinners?

[Mandy]

What was they?

[Eden]

What about them?

[Mandy]

It was Christian.

[Eden]

Yeah, they were Christian, too.

[Wheezy]

They were cheating.

[Eden]

I don't think they were cheating.

[Wheezy]

He was trying to go out there and get some money.

[Mandy]

Nah, I ain't even going to hold you. She did some bullshit. Michelle, if you want to hear us discuss our take on the movie centers, we do cinema over on the Patreon, where we break down our thoughts on movies, film symbolism, all the things. We did it like two months ago on Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman. And we'd love to take your suggestions as well, but that's only on the Patreon. So not only are you getting horrible Decisions episodes, you get BTs, you get Mandy on the hotline, you get. Oh, are you got Decisions video? There's a lot of stuff over on the Patreon.

[Wheezy]

And ad free. Oh, Episodes.

[Mandy]

Ad Free Episodes. And no, no bleeps like y' all get over.

[Wheezy]

You mean you can rob banks and trains, but you can't steal this pussy?

[Mandy]

Here we go. Sorry. You've been saying that for, like, the last 10 days. Forever. All right?

[Wheezy]

I'm saying it before the movie came out.

[Mandy]

Oh, my goodness. Anyways, guys, no holes barred. A dual manifesto sexual exploration and power available. Now get your book, Puss a Ho. And thank y' all for tuning in to another episode of Decision Decisions. We'll see you next week.

[Wheezy]

Peace. This is an I Heart podcast.