EP 434: Saving Your Marriage & Successful Failure (Ft. KevOnStage)

Summary

Podcast Summary: Decisions, Decisions – EP 434: Saving Your Marriage & Successful Failure (Ft. KevOnStage)

Podcast: Decisions, Decisions
Hosts: Mandii B, WeezyWTF
Guest: KevOnStage
Date: August 18, 2025
Main Theme:
This episode brings humor and heartfelt realness as Mandii and Weezy sit down with comedian and creator KevOnStage (Kevin Fredericks) to discuss his new book Successful Failure, lessons learned from marriage, therapy, relationship boundaries, and embracing “failure” as the path to authentic success. The trio also dives into non-traditional relationship dynamics, sex-positivity, and the balancing act of maintaining love and personal growth.

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Episode Overview

The conversation tackles:

• KevOnStage’s journey as a husband and how therapy and boundaries saved his marriage
• Taboo topics from couples’ therapy to sex fetishes (“How Churchy Are You?” quiz)
• Memorable stories that mix comedy and vulnerability — from pandemic marital struggles to legendary doo-doo mishaps
• Honest dialogue about what success, failure, and resilience really look like in love and life

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Key Segments & Insights

1. Introductions and Guest Spotlight (00:35–04:47)

• Weezy and Mandii welcome KevOnStage — with hilarious banter about names, nicknames, and racial backgrounds.
• Kev shares the story behind “KevOnStage” and clarifies he’s “regular, degular, traditional black,” but is also 1/8th Mexican — leading to a playful discussion about skin tones and Florida “red bone” culture.

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2. Plugging Projects: Churchy & Successful Failure (04:18–07:39)

• Weezy and Mandii plug Kev’s new BET+ sitcom Churchy (premiering August 21), and his new book Successful Failure.

• Kev expresses gratitude for the fun and relatability in their books:

  “I love this. Honestly, it’s actually fun because… yeah, people don't assume books will be… Y’all knew you were getting us eating ass, sucking dick, all the things.” (04:48–04:57, Mandii V)

• Discussion on balancing Christian upbringing with real-life authenticity:

  “For me, as Christians, I think we've done a bad job of showing how you can actually be a regular person. Christianity is a huge part of who you are. But it shouldn't be the only thing…” (05:18–05:46, KevOnStage)

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3. Marriage Journey: Love, Pandemic, and Therapy (08:13–18:47)

– The Kev & Melissa Story

• Kev details meeting his wife Melissa in high school and dating since 2000.

• Discusses surviving relationship “rough patches,” especially during the pandemic:

  “Pandemic was like a myriad of things, I think... So we thought because we were in the house together, we would then all of a sudden spend all our time together… but it was incongruent with how we felt.” (11:33–11:47, KevOnStage)

– Pivotal Marital Moment (14:17–18:47)

• Shares a dramatic story where Melissa almost left for a hotel during a fight, and Kev ran after her in his underwear to stop her.

  “If I let her go to this hotel, I think... we're gonna cross the point that's gonna be too hard. Cuz when she goes, then my mind's gonna start being like, oh, she left. She don't... You know what I’m saying?” (15:44–16:11, KevOnStage)

• The decision inspired them to go to therapy, breaking the stigma (“if you had to go to therapy, your relationship is beyond repair”).

• Therapy was the game changer that gave them tools to “argue better” and “fight the problem, not each other”.

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4. Couples’ Therapy, Stigma, & Therapist Dynamics (20:08–28:29)

• Candid discussion on therapy: types of therapists (Asian woman, Black woman, etc.), the process of “shopping” for the right fit, and couples overcoming the fear that “therapy means the end.”
• Stories about gender and race affecting therapy experiences:

  “I do think… with the Black, like, male therapist I had… He said, let me talk to y’all alone… this isn’t how people that love you should treat you.” (22:15–23:10, Weezy)

• Kev shares how roleplays in therapy “rehabilitated” hurtful moments:

  “Only a therapist could give us the idea to like, reenact the moment… healing that part of our relationship.” (28:21–28:50, KevOnStage)

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5. Playful Sex Ed: "How Churchy Are You?" Fetish Quiz (29:39–34:39)

• Mandii and Weezy quiz Kev on various fetishes with churchy, awkward, and hilarious results (“spitting,” “pet play,” “cuckolding,” “age play,” “erotic humiliation,” “queerophelia”):

  Kev: “Is doggy style not enough?” (30:54)

  Mandii: “You have to bark, okay?” (31:02)

  Kev: “I could bark in the bedroom... but that feet ain’t… you know what I'm saying?” (34:31–34:39)

• Explores why foot fetishes “terrify” Weezy, leads to stories about Wikifeet, AI romance, and robotic boyfriends.

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6. Hoetry and Black Card Moments (39:22–44:18)

• The “Hoetry” segment: hosts recite explicit song lyrics in poetic form; Kev struggles (hilariously) to ID Juvenile’s “Slow Motion”, losing “black card points”:

  “I literally felt like this is the first time... I was just vibing with him. I didn’t really know what he… I was just…” (41:09–41:30, KevOnStage)

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7. Relationship Boundaries: Who Gets to Stay Over? (44:42–53:00)

• Kev details a tense moment when his wife (influenced by her mother the neighborhood “mother hen”) almost let a man he didn't know stay in their house:

  “There’s family and then there’s not family. If you ain’t blood related… If it ain’t finna be incestuous… I never heard that… I don’t know him.” (46:24–46:44, KevOnStage)

• Candid debate on “giver” personalities, space boundaries, and gendered double standards.

• Hilarious tangent: only trash dick would leave a man homeless (“If the dick was good, one of the women… would have brought him in!”). (53:14, Mandii V)

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8. “Saving Your Marriage” & Failed Experiments (56:48–62:28)

• Kev shares trying his first drink at 29 and first weed edible (“I smoked the weeds one time”).
• The trio laughs about underwhelming results (“half a shot of Patron”) and edible-induced disasters (Mandii’s “exorcist-style” vomiting).

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9. The Legendary Doo-Doo Story (62:30–72:12)

• Kev’s most famous story: eating abandoned Rocky Road ice cream, ignoring his wife’s warning, and shitting his pants on an hour-long bus ride.

  “Your mind thinks you’re at the bathroom [when you get close]. … my sphincter, it wasn’t sphincting… a little fart came out… and then just… liquid… my butt was open…” (67:20–68:42)

  “I had to walk to the bathroom with doodoo ankles.” (69:44, KevOnStage)

  • Mandii: “That is disgusting, Kev.”
  • Weezy: “[Reading it] on a Delta flight… I’m dying laughing at this doo-doo joke…”

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10. Final Thoughts: Success, Failure & Authenticity (72:21–77:57)

• Kev promotes Successful Failure:

  “My life told from the point of view of the failures instead of the successes… It tells you how I became good at things by being bad at them first.” (74:37–75:01)

• Offering a free masterclass (formerly $299) with book preorders.
• Hosts praise Kev’s integrity in supporting his community and reflect on their own journey:

  “Once you’re on [the bestseller list]… it’s like, no, we want to be…” (76:20, Mandy V)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On fighting for marriage:

  “I wish I would have fought more for my marriage and I wish the other person would have fought for me.” (15:44, KevOnStage)

• On therapy stigma:

  “If you had to go to therapy, your relationship is beyond repair. But like, two and a half years of therapy… our relationship stronger.” (18:16, KevOnStage)

• On “pet play”:

  “You have to bark, okay?” (31:02, Mandy V)

• On boundaries:

  “I don't trust that nigga. And your mom is tripping. No, everybody go to bed.” (48:48, KevOnStage)

• On success:

  “It's my life told from the point of view of the failures instead of the successes. Because it's so much more interesting to tell to me. And uplifting.” (74:37, KevOnStage)

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Timestamps for Major Segments (MM:SS)

• Guest intro & playful banter: 00:35–04:47
• Plug: Churchy/Book/Authenticity: 04:18–07:39
• Marriage/Relationship Journey: 08:13–18:47
• Therapy Stigma & Finding Help: 20:08–28:29
• Sexual Fetish Quiz: 29:39–34:39
• Hoetry/Black Card Moments: 39:22–44:18
• Who Gets the Spare Room: 44:42–53:00
• First Drink, Edibles Stories: 56:48–62:28
• Epic Doo-Doo Story: 62:30–72:12
• What is Success? Book Plug: 72:21–77:57

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Conclusion

This episode blends raw marital wisdom, therapy advocacy, stories that make you cackle and cringe, and a celebration of learning through failure. KevOnStage’s vulnerability and humor light the way, proving that “successful failure” is the real secret to strong relationships and self-acceptance. Whether you’re married, single, spiritual, or just nosy, this episode will have you laughing, reflecting, and maybe—just maybe—reconsidering that leftover ice cream in your fridge.

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Listen to "Decisions, Decisions" every Monday. Find more about KevOnStage, his BET+ show Churchy, and pre-order his book Successful Failure for the free masterclass at the link in his bio.

Transcript

[Weezy]

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[Weezy]

But I'm tell you, when I was judging in the book.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Your wife was about to move a in the house.

[Kevon Stage]

My wife was about to move a in the house.

[Mandy V]

Excuse me.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Was it a family member in the black community?

[Kevon Stage]

That's really. There's.

[Mandy V]

It's tricky. It's tricky, it's tricky.

[Kevon Stage]

So she was like, yeah, my mom told him he could kind of stay with us for a while. I was like, no, she didn't.

[Weezy]

Like, I don't care.

[Kevon Stage]

She was like, yeah, but you know what I'm saying? He's like family. I said, that nigga ain't like family. There's family and then there's not family. And I'm not even there. I don't know him.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, no, no.

[Kevon Stage]

Never heard the name. And I live in LA with our son.

[Mandy V]

And you want another man. You want a nigga and the girl making sandwiches.

[Weezy]

Welcome to Decisions, Decisions.

[Mandy V]

I don't think you should say Decisions, Decisions. It sounded like you was talking it cursive.

[Weezy]

You definitely say the welcome.

[Mandy V]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Weezy]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together?

[Mandy V]

Decisions, Decisions. Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of Decisions, Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy V. And I'm not going to do my AKAs today because it'll be respectful.

[Kevon Stage]

Don't be respectful. Do your AKAs.

[Mandy V]

Well, I'm your girl, Mandy V, aka Pegan Markle, aka Peg the Stallion, aka Peggy Buddy, aka that bitch.

[Weezy]

Hey, everybody, I'm Weezy. And let the chur say amen. Amen. As you all know, I grew up a Jewish girl. They're down bad right now. But what we do have in the.

[Mandy V]

Building.

[Weezy]

Is Kevin, not Federline, more popularly known as Kevon Stage. Not to be confused with Kevon Stage.

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy? I did used to think it was Kevon.

[Kevon Stage]

So many people do.

[Mandy V]

This is Kayvon.

[Kevon Stage]

Kevon. Hey.

[Weezy]

Definitely thought that because my first time seeing you, I think I mentioned earlier on your episode was on a flight.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And I was like, well, I know I'm doing well because I'm next to Kevon. People like, who is that?

[Mandy V]

I did think you were Kevon, but we from Florida.

[Kevon Stage]

Well, there's also no. At this point, if you know me on social media, like, I don't. I very rarely say Kevin. I mean, like, this Kevon Stage. And people just know me, Kevon. I guess they think Kevon, but Kevon is a name. But the thing that trips me out is people who think Stage is my real last name or maybe a stallion. And I'm like, you ain't never met. You ain't never met nobody whose last name is Stage.

[Weezy]

You got an apostrophe.

[Mandy V]

It could have been Stahe. You know what I mean?

[Weezy]

Wait, what kind of black are you?

[Kevon Stage]

What are all regular black? Regular, regular, traditional black.

[Mandy V]

Actually. Actually, hold on.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm 1 8th Mexican. Though, technically.

[Mandy V]

That's why you were red Bone. We was trying to tell Kev that he red. So we looking at the white balance was off. But I was like, damn, Kev, you a little light sk. I said, you red, Bone.

[Weezy]

He's a white balance.

[Mandy V]

He said, no, he not. And then we like, but this is.

[Kevon Stage]

Summer Cap, this brown kid.

[Mandy V]

Just so you know, if you was in Florida, it's giving red bone, okay? Like, somebody from across the street gonna be like, hey, Red. Hey, Red. What's up? I'm way too dark for red, Bone.

[Weezy]

I mean, you know, is this our biracial opportunity to make fun of somebody? Because all we experience October through March is, damn, they were that white. Or then Mandy and I arguing about.

[Mandy V]

Who'S whiter, who's darker. Oh, yeah, we literally have. We was at the pool yesterday, and I was literally like, mm, mm. Look at me, I'm getting red. And they're like, no, you're. We were literally talking about red light skin, yellow. We was talking about all the shades of melanin. Then my homegirl's like, I'm Olive. We said, bitch, we give up.

[Kevon Stage]

Not Olive.

[Mandy V]

She said, olive.

[Weezy]

I was like, oh, no, Olive is. We both are for makeup.

[Mandy V]

Are we olive?

[Weezy]

Anyway, let's talk about Kevon.

[Kevon Stage]

Kevon.

[Weezy]

So actually. Oh, isn't it a brilliant idiot's thing to say? Church announcements. Okay, I wanna plug it off the top.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes, please, plug it off the top.

[Weezy]

As y' all know, plug it up. We begged you bitches to buy a book. I mean, I literally. Some of you went down the street, took the book, put it down your throat and said, get another one. This is what Kev is here to promo successful failure. I actually read it. I honestly didn't think I would. I was kind of just like, oh, let me skim. But then it was actually fun.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

I love this.

[Mandy V]

Honestly, it's actually fun because. Well, also because. Yeah, people don't assume books will be now ours. Y' all knew you were getting us eating ass, sucking dick, all the things.

[Weezy]

So I also didn't picture. Imagine some of, like, the dirty and funny shit. Like, I audibly laughed out loud. But doo doo. I don't care how many people heard the story, by the way, I brought this up with you.

[Kevon Stage]

Absolutely.

[Weezy]

They were like, yeah, we know the doo Doo story. I'm like, I don't care. I want him to tell it again. But that shit was great.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. Thank you.

[Weezy]

And I like when church people aren't, like, too churchy. But then you have a show named Churchy.

[Kevon Stage]

Although I have a show named churchy that's on BET August 21st period. But I think for me, being. For me, this is not all people. For me, I think as Christians, I think we've done a bad job of showing how you can actually be a regular person. Christianity is a huge part of who you are. But it shouldn't be the only thing in the sense of, like. I mean, like, you don't go to movies. You can't talk about music. Like, everything can't be, oh, I ain't met them types. Oh, there's. There's.

[Weezy]

Oh, I was.

[Mandy V]

They don't go to movies.

[Weezy]

You were talking about something about not being able to watch tv.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. When I was a kid, we couldn't go to the movie theater.

[Mandy V]

What?

[Kevon Stage]

Like, that's how my family was raised. And I was like, but we could watch movies.

[Mandy V]

You didn't have the experience of bringing in a whole cooked meal to the movie theater as a child?

[Kevon Stage]

Not until we left El Paso. Like, once we left my home church, my mom kind of relaxed the guidelines.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

We were poor anyway, so it wasn't.

[Mandy V]

No. That's why you had to bring your own snacks.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

The movie theater. Movie theater snacks brought in leftovers.

[Weezy]

Logic. So I've heard, like, no Harry Potter.

[Kevon Stage]

My pastor was like, the movie theater is sinful. And I was like, is it inherent? Is it the movie theater or the movies? Long story short, later on in life, we found. My grandma told me that his son was having sex in the theater.

[Mandy V]

I knew.

[Weezy]

I knew.

[Mandy V]

Well, that's when I say him that's a good place.

[Weezy]

That's a start.

[Mandy V]

No, I'm not gonna lie. That's where most girls get fingers hot for the first time. Like the movie theaters is.

[Weezy]

I'm gonna be real with popping action. The beginning of Sinners got a little too long, and my nigga was about to begin me right there. And then it started turning up. Because you remember, like, right. The first 10 minutes, it was like, oh, this is great. Great cinematography.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no, great cinematography was you and, like, the reenactment.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, yeah, yeah. The cinema.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. We did promote our tour.

[Mandy V]

Spoofed Sinners to promote his comedy tour. And when I say, so fucking good.

[Kevon Stage]

Thank you.

[Mandy V]

And your wife was in it too, right?

[Kevon Stage]

No, that's my homegirl, Angel.

[Mandy V]

Okay. Okay. That's who we met, though, in the studio.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Weezy]

Everybody confused. Melissa and Angel.

[Kevon Stage]

No, just. Just you guys.

[Weezy]

I don't know why we do that.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wow. No. Got him.

[Weezy]

Yes. And I got some Melissa Shade anyway from the book. Okay, so real quick, Churchy, is we stream it. How do we watch it?

[Kevon Stage]

We stream it on BET plus on August 21st. All 10 episodes will be out that day. I believe it's a Thursday, if I'm not mistaken. You can watch it in the weekend.

[Weezy]

By the way, if you don't want to download BET plus to make it easier, it's just Amazon prime and you add it.

[Kevon Stage]

That's all you got to do, period.

[Weezy]

I didn't realize that, but Fuse said, hey, we need you to promote Fuse Plus. I was like, please download it. Android app stores, they were like, bitch, it's on.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, it makes it easier, but it's also confusing because you don't. That's why I say the platform is. It's harder to have, like, you know, platform dominance now.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

Because your TV just has the shows on. Oh, you don't even know. It's just like, you want to watch this? And then you press play. If you're logged in, you go in. So, yes, you can get BDT on Prime, period. You could log in through there now.

[Mandy V]

Churchy, are you bringing, like. Is there any raunchiness in it at all?

[Kevon Stage]

There is zero raunchiness.

[Mandy V]

Oh.

[Kevon Stage]

In the first season.

[Mandy V]

That's why we're making Kev raunchy today, y'. All.

[Kevon Stage]

I kissed a girl.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God.

[Kevon Stage]

In the first season.

[Weezy]

No, you didn't.

[Kevon Stage]

I didn't.

[Mandy V]

Not a kiss.

[Kevon Stage]

I kissed with your tongue. With my tongue.

[Weezy]

Who was she? Let me Google her.

[Kevon Stage]

Her name is Shani Shockley. She had Played my fiance in the show I had not kissed another woman in since I was 16.

[Mandy V]

Wait, you and your wife have been together that long?

[Kevon Stage]

Melissa was my girlfriend. May 15, 2000. I asked her to be. Well, technically. Long story short, I thought we were dating for two weeks. And.

[Mandy V]

What, you thought you were dating?

[Kevon Stage]

How do you think you're dating? Cause I was trying to be cool, like, you know what I'm saying? You wanna be my girl? And I thought she said, yeah. So I started doing boyfriend stuff.

[Mandy V]

What is boyfriend stuff?

[Kevon Stage]

I'm gonna tell you. This is my move, right? Say, this is your knee, right?

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

I used to do this move where I would, like, do this, like, and it would tickle your knee. So great move, right?

[Mandy V]

Oh, my.

[Kevon Stage]

I did it. She, like, stopped my hand on the bus. She was like, what are you doing? I was like, you my girl? She's like, no, I'm not. And I was like, but remember that time I said, you gonna be my girl? She's like, I don't know what you're talking about. So I was like, oh. So on May 15, 2000, I asked her straight up, like, hey, actually, it's not even what happened. Her cousin Tony, who's my homeboy to this day, he was like, come on, cuz, be with Kev. You know what I'm saying? I had been championing this for all semester.

[Weezy]

Not you at the Big and Get the Fit.

[Kevon Stage]

So I was like, can I? You know? She was like, be my girl. Be my girl. Come on, Liz. That's what Tony was saying. She was like, okay, Tony, I will be his girl. Dang, you happy? And threw my hand.

[Mandy V]

No, true story.

[Kevon Stage]

Through my hand. We were walking to her house from the bus stop now.

[Mandy V]

She said, yeah, dang.

[Kevon Stage]

Hey, nigga.

[Mandy V]

Okay?

[Kevon Stage]

And she threw my hand. And I was like, this is gonna be my wife. And we have never broken up since.

[Weezy]

Wait, I don't know why that's funny, because I feel like everybody, any wedding I've ever been to, they'd be like, you remember when we had that one rough patch?

[Mandy V]

Yeah, you've never had a rough patch.

[Kevon Stage]

She tried to break up with me in college before.

[Mandy V]

Okay, so she tried.

[Kevon Stage]

She tried. She literally tried. Like, me and my homeboys, we was playing too much Madden. Like, I was playing.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, I would have broke up with your ass, too.

[Kevon Stage]

I was playing Madden.

[Mandy V]

You were a gamer.

[Kevon Stage]

I wasn't even a gamer. As if, like, gamers are now, but when the new Madden comes out, them first two, three weeks niggas is on the game.

[Weezy]

Oh, I thought you were gonna say days.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no, no, like weeks. I mean, I was just going, my homeboy's pops. We played a game for the weekend. Right. So apparently she was mad that I wasn't like spending enough time with her. Blah, blah, blah. Valid, valid. Completely valid. So I'm walking into her dorm, up to her dorm to walk into class. I actually was just coming to check on her and her door was open and she was fussing to her roommate. She's like, they big old they over here huffing and puffing, playing the game. Didn't wanna spend no time with me playing the game. So I walked in her room, I was like, you good? She was like, actually, I think we need to take a break. And I was like. And I was like, you're a little upset. I'm gonna go back to my dorm.

[Mandy V]

Not you, Gaslight, while you go play.

[Kevon Stage]

No, I was confirming her feelings.

[Weezy]

That's funny.

[Kevon Stage]

I said, you're a little upset. I'm gonna go back to my dorm and I'll be back in the morning to walk to your class. And I did. I walked all the way back across campus. I was like a 20 minute walk. I showed up the next morning like nothing ever happened. And we have never broken up since. Wow, you had rough patches though. I ain't gonna hold you.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, okay.

[Kevon Stage]

Pandemic. Rough patch, really?

[Weezy]

Now, is it cause you're spending too much time together or you're bored?

[Kevon Stage]

The pandemic?

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

Pandemic was like a myriad of things, I think.

[Mandy V]

Myriad.

[Kevon Stage]

Myriad. I think. How do I say this? People weren't realizing how much free time they had because of their day to day life.

[Weezy]

Yep.

[Kevon Stage]

So we thought because we were in the house together, we would then all of a sudden spend all our time together. And I think when we didn't want to, it was like incongruent with how we felt. Cause I'm like, you know, I'm a touring comedian. You guys been on the road before? Like I got my. Yeah, I'm usually in my hotel, I'm watching. Like I have my own time. So there was times where I just wanna go and watch the office in my office with the door closed, by myself and chill. And you know, she was like, you know, why you wanna be with me? I'm like, I be with you all the time. And in the reverse, like when I wanna be with her, she want her own time and she's not getting her hair done, her nails done, and she didn't realize, like just driving to the hair salon in LA could be an hour and a half. She'd go get her hair done.

[Mandy V]

You get your alone time now. It's eight minutes.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. She'd get her nails done, get her hair done. She'll go grab lunch so she could have her day. So now that's not gone. So we're clashing more than we usually do.

[Mandy V]

Oh. Pandemic was make or break 1000 bad relationships.

[Kevon Stage]

And true story. One day we was into it. Deep tension, thick. Wings wasn't saving it because wings often breaks an argument.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait.

[Weezy]

Chicken wing wings.

[Kevon Stage]

Chicken wings get the out. Not because you gonna be hungry.

[Weezy]

No, I don't like when white people watch stuff and be like, told you.

[Mandy V]

That because chicken wings.

[Kevon Stage]

Everybody likes chicken. It's not a black thing. Everybody likes wings.

[Mandy V]

You know what? You know what pisses me off about you just saying that, bro? Alex has his fucking dog in here, and he's recording it. Like, looks like a little chicken wing.

[Kevon Stage]

It does look like a little piece of chicken wing.

[Mandy V]

You really like chicken?

[Kevon Stage]

I love chicken.

[Mandy V]

And now you're being stereotypical, Kev.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm sorry.

[Mandy V]

A red bone like a chicken. God damn it.

[Kevon Stage]

So I used to be like, we argue and like, you hungry? You want some wings? And she'd be like, fine. And that would be the icebreaker.

[Mandy V]

What's the flavor of the wings? I need lemon pepper. Of course. God.

[Kevon Stage]

Lemon pepper. If you gonna do it, you gotta do it, Mandy.

[Weezy]

Cause if you want to make it black lemon pepper.

[Kevon Stage]

So one time, I mean, we was into it, we was, like, walking past each other on the stairs, not talking tension from upstairs to downstairs. And she was like, one day, she was like, I'm gonna leave. Like, I need to go stay in a hotel. I just need.

[Mandy V]

He said, the lemon paper is not gonna save us.

[Kevon Stage]

Lemon paper. It's not gonna save us. She booked a hotel room in Simi Valley, which is, like, way out. And she was she free living. Yeah, that's where them cops from Mojave.

[Weezy]

It took two hours to get here.

[Kevon Stage]

Not that's where them cops from OJ Live. They took that evidence out. Like, a whole bunch of cops live out there. True story.

[Mandy V]

Not. They took the evidence.

[Kevon Stage]

They come from Simi Valley down and harass the niggas, and they go right back to City Valley where it's safe. So she booked a hotel, and, like, she was leaving. And in this moment, I'm like, oh. Like, I felt like it was gonna be a moment. Like, if I let her go, it was gonna be a moment. I was in my drawers. I'm 270, you know, titties hanging, belly hanging over the drawers. She goes, pulls her car out of the garage. Like the ring, the garage app opens and this is like 2am and she's pulling out. And I ran down the stairs in my drawers, through the garage before she could get out. Got in her car and was like, no, no, don't leave.

[Mandy V]

Like, don't leave.

[Kevon Stage]

90S R&B.

[Mandy V]

Don't leave me there. You got on your knees and everything and beg.

[Kevon Stage]

I went out there because I remember her parents got divorced.

[Mandy V]

Lady C. If they don't beg, bitch, you better just go. You know I actually make him beg.

[Weezy]

Why not just give her the night?

[Kevon Stage]

No, I'm gonna tell you why. I'll tell you why. Because in the moment, the way she left, it wasn't that, right? It wasn't like, let me get the night. It was like. It felt like a point. And I felt like if I let her go, it was gonna be too hard to get her back. And her parents got divorced and we talked to them separately, like, what is one thing you wish you had done differently? And they both said, I wish I would have fought more for my marriage and I wish the other person would have fought for me.

[Weezy]

Ooh.

[Kevon Stage]

So I remember being like, I remember that. Was that black remembered? Forget that. I just say, I remember. I remember I was 7 years old. I remember this. So I remembered that in my head. And I was like, there was no ego, There was no nothing. I was like, if this girl goes to. If I let her go to this hotel, I think it's gonna. We're gonna cross the point. That's gonna be too hard. Cuz when she goes, then my mind's gonna start being like, oh, she left. She don't. You know what I'm saying?

[Weezy]

This is giving me a little inspo right now.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

During an argument with my boyfriend, he said to me when I was like, oh, I don't know if I did it in his face or whatever. And I was like, you know what? Sometimes we just be around each other too much and I'm gonna go to a spa day, maybe I'll just stay there tonight. And he was like, are you crazy? Like, no, this isn't. What.

[Mandy V]

What house did you grow up in.

[Weezy]

Where you just think, oh, I'm just gonna go stay up in the rich for the night. It's not how it works. You can go another room. We are together.

[Kevon Stage]

We together.

[Weezy]

And I used to look at it like, oh, he won't give me space. But hearing you say this, I understand. Because it just gets. You kind of used to like separating when you're angry instead of working it out.

[Kevon Stage]

And I totally agree. And I'm not saying that what you're asking for is wrong, I think, but that comes from a healthy place in a healthy moment. Like, hey, I just need a day to myself. Blah, blah, blah, like that. But in an argument, to leave in anger for us. This is just for me. Speaking for myself. Speaking for myself. Speaking for myself. Speaking for myself. I felt like this was a point where she was gonna get to the hotel and start going in her mind about, he let me go. Even though that doesn't make sense.

[Mandy V]

No, doesn't make sense. This nigga shit, he didn't even. He not fighting for me 1000%.

[Kevon Stage]

And whether there's.

[Weezy]

You didn't run behind the car in your car.

[Kevon Stage]

I would have. I would have ran 4, 2, 4. I would have put my hamstring, but I would have put my hamstring in chase. Cause I really can't get up to those speeds no more. But we sat in the car, I cried, she cried, we crowed, we crowed together. We crowed together, Talked till like 4am in the car. In the car. In my draw.

[Weezy]

That's a good one.

[Mandy V]

Not only that, she stayed in that car. Cuz you said the wrong motherfucking thing.

[Kevon Stage]

She stayed in that car.

[Mandy V]

She was. She was fit to po. The poor line.

[Weezy]

You ever get to the point in an argument where like, everything's getting better than one thing? No, no, no.

[Kevon Stage]

Hold on, hold on.

[Weezy]

You're taking me back.

[Kevon Stage]

And we went in the house and it wasn't even like happily ever after in that moment. Right, Right. But it's like, it was like a punt. Like we ain't scored a touchdown, but we didn't throw an interception. We just punting for field position type thing. We went to bed.

[Weezy]

Madden is still in the middle.

[Mandy V]

See what I mean?

[Kevon Stage]

Madden's in the middle. I'll give you a sports analogy because that's how my mind goes.

[Weezy]

Okay?

[Kevon Stage]

But I don't want people to think like, we was like, oh, it was perfect. Like, no, nigga, we had to get through that night. And then we went to therapy. Like, that's probably the impetus for us going to therapy. Cause at that point, we weren't trying to do. And the battle is partially my fault. I still was in the mindset that, you know, if you had to go to therapy, your relationship is beyond repair. But like two and a Half years of therapy. We only stopped cause our therapist had a baby. And then we was just like, all.

[Mandy V]

Right, man, now y' all stop.

[Kevon Stage]

Cause the therapist, therapist had a baby.

[Mandy V]

I was on the road.

[Kevon Stage]

It was just like, we good.

[Mandy V]

I love that you said that though. Cause like a lot of couples, yeah, therapy is like the last straw for them. But to know that you did it for an extended amount of time and that it did actually make your. Make your. Make your relationship stronger.

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[Weezy]

We just interviewed a really dope couple. Skmyln. They're a lesbian couple that came on the show and they both. Both carried their children. Adopted.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, really? One of the wives, kids, they took turns on Craig.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

Nice.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And they talked about how pregnancy changed one of them and they went to therapy together. And I just love hearing couples talk about it because I feel like even five years ago you hear a couple going to therapy, like, oh, oh, that's.

[Kevon Stage]

A stigma that I had. The thing is, I went. We both went to individual therapy.

[Mandy V]

Who was your therapist? Only because whenever I was a man or a woman. You mean, was it a man or a woman?

[Kevon Stage]

It was actually an Asian woman.

[Mandy V]

Oh, that's rude. You married to an Asian woman.

[Kevon Stage]

There was a couple times the therapists were like, knowing who we were and it felt like that you can't know. And then I can't pour my heart out.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

You know, and then they like, we saw that video and it's Like, I can't. Our lady was like, English, second language, Asian immigrant. She was a beast.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I was. I was bombing jokes in there. She was not getting none of the humor. She would be like, so why did you think that was a time for a joke?

[Mandy V]

I was like, fuck, no.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I was trying to, like, defuse the situation. She wasn't going for none of that stuff. And she was very emotion based. And she was. The relationship was the client. So there would be times where I would make a. I'd be killing in there, be like, yeah, Liss. And then therapist would be on my side. And then the next time I'm getting dogged out and I feel like I remember telling them, hey, man, it's been like three sessions in a row. Y' all feel like y' all tag teaming me. I ain't really get to talk. You know what I'm saying? And she was like, oh, my bad. And she would let me talk and I'd be like. And then it's what Lissa did, you.

[Mandy V]

Know, I just like that you were open to that. Cause I don't think we would have made it. After my friends who have, like, considered therapy for. For relationships, the man wants a black man as a therapist. And it's like, you know what I mean? Like, like, men, like the partners that I know have went through that literally were like, I don't want a woman because they're gonna, like. There's a side thing about it. There's a understanding. And a lot of black men that I know even seeking therapy want therapy from other black men. I don't think.

[Weezy]

I do think it's talked about mine with the black, like, male therapist I had when I had an abusive ex. I ever tell you about this? I was only, like, 17 to 20. I was in this relationship. And I talk about it a little bit in the book, but he's not that relevant really in my life anymore. Fifteen years later, it was the only time I ever went to couples therapy. And there was something he wanted. A black man. He was so, so, so specific. Yeah, we sitting in front of the dude. Maybe he was in his 50s at the time. And I remember he. My ex said something to me or did something to me, and the therapist peeped. He said, let me talk to y' all alone for a second. So he talked to me alone. He goes, how old are you and 18 or 19? He was like, listen, I don't know what you grew up seeing, but this isn't how people that treat you like that love you. Treat you?

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, really?

[Weezy]

You shouldn't be jumping. You shouldn't be asking for permission to speak to me. You guys are both in a space where you're paying me to give you guidance. You don't have to look down. Do you understand that?

[Kevon Stage]

Yes. Like, you was talking to me, and.

[Mandy V]

I was like, right?

[Kevon Stage]

I don't even know. I was like, yes, sir.

[Weezy]

And so I'm not understanding it, right? Cause he's like, this is your boyfriend? I'm a medical professor. Professional. Like, what do you think your life is about to be?

[Kevon Stage]

Like?

[Weezy]

So then he says, our conversation can always be private. Okay. I said, okay. I walk out the room. We get back in the car after he has his session. He was like, what the fuck did you tell him? I was like, I didn't tell him anything. He said, I just had a lecture about how to be a man and what men don't do. And we never saw that guy again. And I was like, yo, you either get two. You get the black male therapist that holds you accountable for real. And you maybe not expect that because you expected him to be your dog.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And it showed me, like, damn. I really thought the dude wouldn't be on my side. Women do get very scared of male therapists in the couple situations.

[Kevon Stage]

I can see that. And we went through. We. We went through like, three or four until we settled on one. We had. You know, we had a white dude, we had a black woman, we had a Filipino lady, and then the. The Asian lady. We were like, all right, if this doesn't work, we just don't think therapy's for us. Cause it was like. It was hard. And your relationship's very tense, so it's like, you know what I'm saying? Really gotta work. But, like, even. Interestingly enough, we had the best sessions when we didn't even have, like, an argument that week. Like, I would be like, we ain't gonna talk about nothing. Wait.

[Weezy]

But of course it'd be the best. Cause now your brain is.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, my gosh. Then you can go back to something you didn't. When we was connecting dots. I remember one of the best sessions we ever had. It was so good. Cause I had hired this security guard. There was a point in time where comedians were. People were coming up on stage and fighting comedians. And I ain't no fighter like that, but you know what I'm saying? I was like, a nigga. For real.

[Mandy V]

What do you mean? Before Will Smith?

[Kevon Stage]

No, before that. Before that. I remember D.C. young fly knocked somebody out. Somebody came on Stage with Gary Owen. It was like three or four times. And I was like, my wife was like, we were talking. I was like, I'm a provider for a lot of people, right? She was like, I'm not saying you can't fight, but like, if you get seriously injured, it impacts a lot of people. So, I mean, you could, you could roll.

[Mandy V]

You could will yourself up on stage. Like, like you could still. Yeah, comedians can go up there. You just got to know how to talk.

[Weezy]

Mandy said we were going to get sued. She was like, you can't act like this. I was yelling.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, no, we know we are. When I tell you when she be acting up, I be like, you're gonna get sued, bro. They are coming after you, bro. Like, imagine if we didn't get paid.

[Weezy]

And then we gotta pay wb. And I'm like, bitch, that hoe was talking about my mama. What the fuck?

[Mandy V]

You are gonna get sued. That's coming out of your pot.

[Weezy]

Anyway, should we.

[Kevon Stage]

I had a. Oh, let me finish this.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no, no, no.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

So like we had hired a security guard. Humongous Simone, dude. My wife came. She, she comes.

[Mandy V]

You still friends with him? Cause I want me a Simone.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm still friends with him. He's great. Yeah, he's fantastic. I'll connect you.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, he looked like he got the tattoos and stuff.

[Kevon Stage]

He got all the Samoan stuff.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

I want, I want everything in the Samoan pack.

[Mandy V]

Listen.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, he can sing too. It's great.

[Mandy V]

I don't even listen. The Roman Reigns, all of them. They got me. They got me right now, baby.

[Kevon Stage]

They got me.

[Mandy V]

They got me. I want the whole family.

[Kevon Stage]

They're having a run right now. Let's go to Samoa.

[Mandy V]

Having a run.

[Kevon Stage]

So she was on the road with us and my brother in law is my tour manager. I think her sister came because my wife always comes to some tour stops. No matter how many tours she comes to at least 5, 10 shows.

[Mandy V]

Not Jackie Christie.

[Kevon Stage]

Who's that?

[Mandy V]

Yeah. What? Basketball Wise. Jackie Chrissy went on the road with Doug Chrissy Wise.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, no, I didn't know this.

[Mandy V]

The thing is like, that she was a terrible mom because she followed him on the road to make sure he ain't no groupies.

[Weezy]

And the mama was trying to beat her up on tv.

[Mandy V]

It was good.

[Kevon Stage]

Wait, is that the. Who hit her daughter?

[Mandy V]

Yes, that's Doug Chrissy's. What? That's Duck curse.

[Weezy]

No, the daughter was trying to hit the mother.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. And they fought, but I never knew. I didn't want to get that in.

[Kevon Stage]

My algorithm, I was like, let me me stay. Some things are better, better off than normal.

[Mandy V]

I just want to say thank you. You bring so much stuff that shouldn't be my algorithm into my algorithm. The way I look every week for the performances at SeaWorld because of you. I just want to thank you. Okay. I just want to thank you, Kevin.

[Weezy]

I do like a good repurpose. Absolutely.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm gonna repurpose some stuff. So anyway, after the show, my security guard, it was his first week and my wife was coming, so my brother in law and sister in law, we had another car. And it's such a simple thing, but it caused such a divide between us. And I got a couple comedians and we got an suv. My security guard's huge. She's like six, five.

[Weezy]

Don't tell me she was in another car.

[Mandy V]

Kid, can you keep describing him?

[Kevon Stage]

So long hair, huge hair. Oh my God, Strong. So she's like, we're walking towards the cars and I'm like, hey, which car do you want to ride in, right? Because I'm trying not to be overbearing. I'm trying not to tell her what to do because I've been like, I wouldn't say controlling, but I want things my way. And that didn't leave a lot of room. This is something I'm working on, right? So I'm trying to invite her, but I don't say, hey, ride with me. I say, which car do you want to ride in? To give her the choice, she immediately like, I ride with my sister, right? And I was like, nigga, that's it. We finna be arguing for the rest of the night. Like, I knew from that moment. Year later, we go in therapy and we're talking about this thing and my therapist was like, I wanna stop you right here. Let's go back to that moment. If you could say something, if you could reenact that moment, what would you tell Melissa? So I'm like, oh my gosh, Melissa, please ride with me, right? Like, I want you to ride with me to the hotel. She started crying. Like she just really wanted to feel wanted in that moment.

[Mandy V]

In that moment.

[Kevon Stage]

And just by me asking her, instead of inviting her and showing her that I want her, it caused such a, like, rift in that moment. And only a therapist could give us the idea to like reenact the moment, right? And it was like healing that part of our relationship where we didn't realize how impactful that was for us. So I think that's a perfect example, like Only a professional could think like that. Whatever it is for you. And it gave us a lot of tools to learn how to argue, how to defeat the problem, not each other, all that type of stuff. So it was. It was super impatient. We haven't went in a minute, but we still use the tools now. Cuz last night I made her mad.

[Mandy V]

What you do?

[Kevon Stage]

She was mad. I just.

[Mandy V]

It wasn't enough. Lemon pepper on the wing. They was a little dry.

[Kevon Stage]

I just didn't listen. I thought she was wrong about something.

[Mandy V]

You gave her blue cheese instead of ranch.

[Kevon Stage]

No, I would never do that. First off, don't do you talking crazy, Mandy.

[Mandy V]

And this is the Caucasian of me. I love blue cheese with them little pieces of blue cheese.

[Kevon Stage]

Fertile.

[Mandy V]

I fucking. I don't want ranch. I want blue cheese, not ranch. And I hate when they like, stereotype me because they bring the ranch first and I'm like, okay.

[Kevon Stage]

At least they just think you're a normal human being.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Blue cheese is elite. We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that.

[Weezy]

Let's get into. How churchy are you?

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, yes. This is great.

[Mandy V]

Oh, you.

[Weezy]

Oh, it's filthy.

[Mandy V]

You don't know what.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, maybe not great.

[Mandy V]

Not that.

[Weezy]

Okay, I would like you to tell us what these fetishes are. How churchy are you?

[Kevon Stage]

Okay, starting.

[Weezy]

Easy. Spitting.

[Kevon Stage]

What is spitting?

[Weezy]

What would it be during sex?

[Kevon Stage]

You spit in somebody's mouth.

[Weezy]

There we go.

[Mandy V]

Come on. I'm going to say spit on.

[Kevon Stage]

I thought it was a trick question.

[Weezy]

Pet play.

[Kevon Stage]

Pet play. This is real?

[Mandy V]

This is dog. Yes, this is real.

[Kevon Stage]

The dog being there with y'? All.

[Mandy V]

No, not. Oh, no. That's bestiality.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay. I don't know.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no, no. Oh, pet play. Oh, what do you think? Pet play. Ok, there we go.

[Kevon Stage]

Wait. One person acts like the pet.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay. I don't know, y', all and y', all, y', all, you've never. The whole smart.

[Mandy V]

You've never. You've never.

[Kevon Stage]

Like, what do y' all do? Like, you. Good boy. Good boy.

[Weezy]

Oh, you.

[Mandy V]

You. Did you watch Baby Girl with Nicole Kidman?

[Weezy]

She was like, licking a bowl with milk and shit.

[Mandy V]

She was acting like a cat.

[Kevon Stage]

No, you said.

[Weezy]

Honestly, I feel like Halloween is like the real basic. Because, you know, bitches be cats. They do have.

[Mandy V]

If you could. If you could act like an animal in the bedroom, though, Kev, what animal would you be in the bedroom?

[Kevon Stage]

Is doggy style not enough?

[Mandy V]

That's a position.

[Kevon Stage]

But it got dog in the word. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no. You have to bark, okay?

[Kevon Stage]

You gotta be like, woof, woof, woof. Good boy. I'm good boy.

[Mandy V]

Oof.

[Kevon Stage]

Woo. Is that. Is that pet play?

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

All I gotta do is add bark. Yeah, you just bark and I can, like.

[Mandy V]

There we go. See?

[Weezy]

Look at you.

[Kevon Stage]

Why would I do that?

[Weezy]

Licky cuckolding.

[Mandy V]

Do you know cuckolding?

[Kevon Stage]

I know that's when you like to watch your partner get smashed by somebody else.

[Mandy V]

Yes. Ok, now I don't. Wait a second. How are you like. Yep. No cuck holding. Why do you know?

[Kevon Stage]

I've heard that before.

[Mandy V]

Okay, you've heard it?

[Kevon Stage]

Yes. That play is a new one.

[Mandy V]

I want to know where you just heard cuck holding. Because it wasn't in the church.

[Kevon Stage]

No. Well, the Diddy trial. He was watching.

[Mandy V]

Oh, okay. Okay. So you just learned that word.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no, no. I've known before diddy.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

But that's the most recent example.

[Mandy V]

Got you.

[Kevon Stage]

That's a popular, like, go smash my girl. Yeah, yeah, do it like that.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't know why, but that's, you know. No king shaming.

[Mandy V]

Period.

[Weezy]

Age play. Now, have you ever been Daddy Kevin?

[Kevon Stage]

No, I guess I'm just Kevin. I just kept it. Wait, so is age play with an older person or you act older?

[Mandy V]

No, you.

[Kevon Stage]

You're like, girl, give me my medicine.

[Mandy V]

The real kinky part of it, there's a kink called DL lg Daddy, Daddy dom, Little girl. Or something like that. Okay, so basically, a woman may act like a child.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, see, that is.

[Mandy V]

And then.

[Weezy]

But not in the super, like, let's all be turned off way. It'd be like, ooh, daddy, come. Da, da, da. It could be just a voice. It could be the playful act.

[Mandy V]

It's still, though.

[Kevon Stage]

That would be a fun grow up. We adult not grow up.

[Weezy]

But people like that.

[Mandy V]

Baby.

[Kevon Stage]

No, don't even imitate it.

[Mandy V]

Don't do a Google Sega.

[Weezy]

What is an erotic humiliation look like?

[Kevon Stage]

Erotic humiliation. You smack your meat on somebody's face.

[Mandy V]

Look at you. Okay, Kel.

[Weezy]

Dance.

[Mandy V]

Kel, you're advanced here. Wow.

[Kevon Stage]

You gotta try to throw your meat on the forehead from here and there.

[Mandy V]

Okay, Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't know about humiliation, but while.

[Mandy V]

She'S reading a book, just slap her with it.

[Kevon Stage]

You gotta slap it on the forehead, man.

[Mandy V]

I'm not mad at that.

[Weezy]

So humiliation play is basically like when someone's submissive. So be like.

[Mandy V]

Like, there we go, there we go.

[Weezy]

And I think a basic one. Another one would be ooh this one's pretty crazy, but what do you think it is?

[Kevon Stage]

What does it have to do with the church?

[Mandy V]

Queer Ophelia.

[Weezy]

I just want to see how churchy are you.

[Mandy V]

Oh.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, got you.

[Mandy V]

And I think. I think you done stepped out the.

[Weezy]

Church a little bit. You slept. Your fucking gymnastation.

[Mandy V]

What do you think?

[Weezy]

Queer Ophelia is queer or Philly. Q U, I, R. Not queer, like gay.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, okay. Q, U, I, R. Okay.

[Mandy V]

Come on. The Latin root. Let's go. Come on, Arthur.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay, so necro questions. You asked me asking questions.

[Weezy]

Okay, so it's actually the real word for foot and hand fetishes.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, really?

[Weezy]

So involving attraction to the hands, manicures, foot jobs. Feet is very.

[Kevon Stage]

Feet is basic.

[Weezy]

Now, out of all. Did I not know that? Out of all these fetishes, what do you think is the one you could do with Melissa?

[Kevon Stage]

Pet play. And being a little child is out. I'm not feeling, period.

[Weezy]

But you could be a little daddy. You could be a little daddy, Kev.

[Kevon Stage]

But am I her father?

[Mandy V]

Not. Am I her father? No.

[Weezy]

It's like Sugar daddy hot.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't like it. I don't like it.

[Mandy V]

He said it's giving splendor over here.

[Weezy]

Sure.

[Mandy V]

You got a soundstage.

[Weezy]

Come on.

[Kevon Stage]

I could bark in the bedroom. I could do a pet. But I gotta be like, you wouldn't.

[Weezy]

Just fuck some feet.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Like you had to go barking.

[Kevon Stage]

I can't. That feet ain't. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy V]

You're not a foot person.

[Kevon Stage]

No, man.

[Mandy V]

You've never put a toe in your mouth.

[Kevon Stage]

I put a toe in my mouth.

[Mandy V]

But that's the most advanced thing.

[Kevon Stage]

But I mean, it ain't like, give me them feet, girl. Like, I ain't like, oh, no, forget the titties, man. Feet is where it's at.

[Mandy V]

All you gotta do is. And I guarantee you them toes.

[Weezy]

So I used to live above a bar called Lucky Jack's back in the day. And this is when. Let me know. Feet niggas really scared me.

[Mandy V]

So not they.

[Weezy]

Sometimes I wouldn't be home. And, you know, New York, you ain't really got no doorman like that. So I'm like, hey, would you mind? Like, I have a package coming da, da, da, da. And I'll send it to you. Or tell, you know, tell him to come and give it to you. He said, as long as you come get it with flip flops on.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, see, I seen a video. This woman had her feet outside the window, and the guy was on a Motorcycle and drove by and licked her foot.

[Mandy V]

What?

[Kevon Stage]

That is crazy.

[Mandy V]

Kevin, what is your algorithm?

[Kevon Stage]

I'm telling you. Well, that's my problem.

[Mandy V]

I thought it was just darling, like, what the.

[Kevon Stage]

I am always searching for something to make a video about.

[Mandy V]

So what do you search to find something else?

[Kevon Stage]

Just scrolling my Twitter timeline. I'm not, like, searching, like, typing things in. I'm just, like, scrolling Twitter. And he just licked her foot and just kept on going.

[Weezy]

Feet. Shit terrifies me. I don't know why.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't. I mean, my wife has pretty feet, but I don't. It don't. It ain't like, Erotic People.

[Weezy]

Wikifeet, too. I'm on Wikifeet, and they have photos of me and my dead grandmother Kevin. Just me and my grandma at a nursing home with my foot kicked up in the grass. And they were rating that one an 8.9.

[Mandy V]

That is crazy.

[Kevon Stage]

That is insane.

[Mandy V]

People are in insane every. Every day. I am waiting for the aliens. The robots are here now. And I'm kind of excited because we were talking about at the pool yesterday, and I was like, oh, my God. If I can make it look like however I want, I would love to have a robot nigga, like, for as my nigga, not robot. And I get to program him to.

[Weezy]

Do and say and all Westworld let us on.

[Mandy V]

You said, what?

[Kevon Stage]

Would it be Samoan?

[Mandy V]

You know what?

[Kevon Stage]

At this point in life, you would be a Samoan robot.

[Mandy V]

Fuck all of you guys. Because I believe it was AI, everyone has been sending me Jason Momoa with his beard cut off.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

And they're really like the. Listen, fellas, fellas.

[Kevon Stage]

He looked like a cop.

[Mandy V]

Fellas, fellas from Citadel. Just keep the beard, y', all, man. Just keep the beard. It's why God gave it to you.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

God gave you the beard so that y' all could look more deep and attractive. Keep the goddamn hair on your face.

[Weezy]

I've definitely stopped fucking with all.

[Kevon Stage]

He cut his beard off and you were done.

[Weezy]

We weren't like, fuck, fuck. But, oh, wait, you know.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm not gonna lie.

[Kevon Stage]

It'll change. It'll change your.

[Mandy V]

Me and my ex used to get into, like, he would come from the barber, and I'd literally be like, now, why did you do that? We didn't. Like, I was like, why did you do that? Because I felt away. Like, that's something we should discuss.

[Weezy]

I have to wait four weeks.

[Mandy V]

And then do you know, he said, well, you change your hair color without asking me. And literally, we had A whole, like, talk about. I mean. Okay, I do. But if I'm able to say don't do it, you can tell me not to color my hair.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay, got it.

[Mandy V]

I wanted just to say as to when he was gonna fucking cut his hair off his face or not. Because now I have to look at you and it's different. And now I think I'm gonna want back shots more instead of missionary until it grows back. Okay. Shit, I wanna look at this nigga missionary. See, look, we're bringing church into it.

[Kevon Stage]

There you go. Spread the good news.

[Mandy V]

I was a part of the missions at one point.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I remember you said that.

[Mandy V]

Yes. You said, you know, just at one point was nine. At one point. No, no, no. It was like from. From 8 to 11. Okay. Okay. A good three years. Okay.

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[Mandy V]

So anyway, poetry, let's get into Hoetry.

[Kevon Stage]

Hoetry, Hoetry.

[Weezy]

It's our new segment where we basically try to read you a song that you definitely know in a poetic nature.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, okay. This is great.

[Mandy V]

So you have to guess the song.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay, she has one.

[Mandy V]

I feel like if you don't get it off the first goddamn line, revoking your black card.

[Weezy]

All right, now let me read it.

[Mandy V]

No, no, read it. Read it really well.

[Weezy]

It's like I've got the world in my palms. Your girl up under my arms, she's fucked up from the charm. She loved the way that dicks stay hard. From 12 till early in the morning. Fine bitches I'm not black. If you're listening, you heard me. I'm strong. If you're going through your cycle, I ain't with it. I'm gone. You must have heard about them hoes that I beat up in my home.

[Kevon Stage]

Beat up in my home?

[Weezy]

They wasn't telling the truth, baby, you know they was wrong.

[Mandy V]

Now I need you to hold bitches.

[Weezy]

Cause I'm reading it this way, don't know this.

[Kevon Stage]

I literally felt like this is the first time.

[Mandy V]

Wait, where are you from again?

[Kevon Stage]

I'm from El Paso, Texas.

[Weezy]

This nigga know.

[Mandy V]

You should know this. You a Southern Nakani. You gonna remix this? We gonna have to redo it.

[Kevon Stage]

There's more. Mexico, New Mexico, Arizona.

[Weezy]

Now, let's see.

[Mandy V]

We don't get to it. We should have did Bidi Bidi bum bum.

[Weezy]

All right, you want me to. You want me to reread it now?

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Weezy]

It's like I got the world in my palm.

[Mandy V]

The girl up under my arms, she fucked up. From the time you still.

[Kevon Stage]

The way y' all locked in, I just knew y' all knew. I knew, but I told you, I never heard those words.

[Weezy]

I like it like that. She worked out.

[Mandy V]

She working it out.

[Kevon Stage]

Slow motion.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

Nigga, I never. I. I'm talking about. I was just listening to that on tiny desk, like, two days ago.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

All right, thanks. Sorry. It's a tiny desk.

[Kevon Stage]

That's my bath.

[Mandy V]

No, like, wow.

[Kevon Stage]

I didn't. I didn't know what juvie was really saying, man.

[Mandy V]

I was just.

[Kevon Stage]

I was vibing with him. I didn't really know what he. I was just.

[Mandy V]

You didn't know nothing.

[Kevon Stage]

I knocked him feel slow motion for me. Slow motion.

[Mandy V]

I was just. He was rapping.

[Kevon Stage]

He.

[Mandy V]

This is like the southern draw. Southern draw.

[Kevon Stage]

That's what I was saying. Yeah. I didn't really, like. I ain't rapping long.

[Mandy V]

No. He asking questions about where I'm driving you. Like, I know all the words. I thought he said it so eloquently. He was one of the most important.

[Kevon Stage]

Demerits on my black card.

[Mandy V]

Guys, I'm really.

[Kevon Stage]

I already got the Anita Baker thing. I got the pumpkin pie going. I got the sugar in my grits thing. Now I got, I don't know, slow motion.

[Weezy]

If you don't know slow motion that I beat up in my arm.

[Mandy V]

You. He said it so great. I didn't think there was a draw at all.

[Kevon Stage]

I mean, you know, juvie got a good rap voice. I was just vibing, but I didn't Buy the album.

[Mandy V]

You know what?

[Kevon Stage]

I couldn't listen to it.

[Mandy V]

You know what? Oh, wait, they wouldn't let you back in the day, huh?

[Weezy]

Oh, that's right.

[Kevon Stage]

I got into the snuck. I snuck. But I didn't experience hip hop the way a lot of other people.

[Mandy V]

Wait a second. You don't get excited when the girls run for the 990 and 2000.

[Kevon Stage]

That was the point I was gonna make certain songs. The biggest song I'm aware of. Almost everything. The biggest.

[Mandy V]

Right, right.

[Kevon Stage]

Slow motion I'm aware of. But I didn't. Like, I didn't have that album, so I don't know every song. But then there was, like, I had the Rough Riders compilation. I know all that. I had an outkast Southern playlist in Cadillac Music. So there's random things that I'm really well versed in. But if it wasn't like a big radio song, music video song.

[Weezy]

But I did pick the third verse, thinking that the first verse, I'm like, oh, he gonna get it.

[Mandy V]

No, that was good. Because the backup song that I had, now that I know. You would have never guessed it.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay, let me. Let me go.

[Mandy V]

You would have never guessed it. I don't think either of y' all is going to get this. I was picking a little. A little harder. Okay, picture this. I'm in my bed, Bodies hot, soaking wet. Thinking about the things that I would.

[Weezy]

Like to do to you.

[Mandy V]

I'm open wide when it comes to freaking you.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, every time I close my eyes.

[Mandy V]

Absolutely the fuck not.

[Weezy]

No, it's not freaking you.

[Mandy V]

Imagine me. Imagine me what as can be.

[Kevon Stage]

See, that's what I told you.

[Mandy V]

But between my legs, you're tasting me, Boy, when you get here, you know my love will overflow. And you ain't gotta worry about my clothes. Cause I got my T shirt and my panties on.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I know that song.

[Mandy V]

I knew it.

[Kevon Stage]

To the Corn. I didn't know she said all that.

[Mandy V]

Stuff, but I said my T shirt and my panties on. Even Alex. Okay, I. Yeah, it was a little harder. But, you know, T shirt, wear panties on.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I know, but I didn't know. I'm not a verse guy. I'm not listening to the verses. I'm just.

[Mandy V]

I love this up. You're on a sex podcast.

[Weezy]

You said. I listened to the choir. Churchy.

[Kevon Stage]

As I said it, I was like.

[Mandy V]

As you said it, you were like.

[Weezy]

Pause to the chorus.

[Mandy V]

But you go to church. You can't pause.

[Weezy]

Okay, so we have another segment that we really letting out and Mandy, we're doing it a little different. So we have. We listen and we judge, and we do judge.

[Kevon Stage]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Now, it's normally a segment where we're, like, telling you some gossip from our friends, but I'm gonna tell you when I was judging in the book.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Your wife was about to move a.

[Mandy V]

Nigga in the house.

[Kevon Stage]

My wife was about to move a nigga in the house.

[Mandy V]

Excuse me.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Wait, y' all are on that type of time?

[Kevon Stage]

No, not even like that at all.

[Mandy V]

But wait, was it a family member.

[Kevon Stage]

In the black community? That's really.

[Mandy V]

There's tricky. It's tricky, it's tricky.

[Kevon Stage]

So what happened was not let me.

[Mandy V]

Move my bro in.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes. And that's why I was tripping. So my son had booked a Little Rascals movie.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

And we. We're living in Washington. I took FMLA for my job at Boeing, moved down here to LA to live with him and, like, be his. They called mom. As your dad is your thing, but, like, you need a parental guardian to be upset. Right. At all times. So I'm down here for three months. He's. He's shooting the movie. Two months. So, I mean, one random day after, like, rehearsal, my wife called. She was like, yeah, my. You know, remember I told you I'm not gonna say his name, but say his name is Johnny. Remember I told you Johnny? He was like, my godbrother. He's going through a rough time.

[Mandy V]

Like, my godbrother.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah, right. Cause her God brother that I knew 1000%, her godbrother that I knew for sure. Like, I knew their names, but this wasn't a name I remember knowing that.

[Mandy V]

You ever heard of?

[Kevon Stage]

Never heard of, Right? So she was like, yeah, my mom told him. Cause her mom is like the, like, mother hen of the neighborhood.

[Mandy V]

Okay?

[Kevon Stage]

That's her thing. And she, to this day, will give you the shirt off her back. She will make sure you're okay, you can come live with her, all that type of stuff. So he was going through a rough time with his wife, and he got. I don't remember. He got kicked out or whatever the reason was. So she was like, yeah, my mom told him he could kind of stay with us for a while. I was like, no, she didn't.

[Weezy]

Like, I don't care.

[Kevon Stage]

She was like, yeah, but you know what I'm saying? He's like, family. I said, that nigga ain't like family. There's family and then there's not family. If you ain't blood related. If it ain't finna be incestuous. It ain't. You know what I'm saying? Not to be crass, right? But that I never heard that nigga in my life. And 1000 and I'm not even there. I don't know him.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, no, no.

[Kevon Stage]

Never heard the name. And I live in LA with our son.

[Mandy V]

And you want another man. I have a nigga in the house making sandwiches now. Let me ask you, what would the church want you to do, though?

[Kevon Stage]

I don't care what the church. Sinners Part two can be outside. He's gonna be all right. And that's what I told.

[Mandy V]

I was like, wait, you said that?

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't care. But she was like, but he gonna be homeless.

[Weezy]

And do you know what this chapter made me think?

[Kevon Stage]

He'll be dead for all I care.

[Mandy V]

Like, you were like, reading, though.

[Weezy]

I'm. That. I'm Melissa.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no, I'm judging, bro.

[Weezy]

But like.

[Kevon Stage]

And I trust her.

[Mandy V]

I'm judging her.

[Kevon Stage]

I trust her.

[Mandy V]

I dare you.

[Weezy]

But that's the thing when you're like a giver. Yeah, bro, I've had two WTF media employees live in my son's spare bedroom. I've had everybody's. I'm telling you, like, that's me. Like, I'm. Come stay with me. You're in transit. Like, I don't know why I do it.

[Kevon Stage]

No.

[Weezy]

I think he told me now that we, like, you know, looking for places together. He goes, you see this little third bedroom here? This little nook you gonna put a bed in to write in?

[Mandy V]

This is not where people live.

[Kevon Stage]

No, I'm with your nigga.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I got a two bedroom now. And refuse to put a bed in there.

[Kevon Stage]

1000. Cause I don't want you to know I do.

[Mandy V]

I don't want my last two bedroom apartment. Literally, I ended up having like three or four friends. I didn't want a roommate. I didn't want anyone. But I'm gonna let someone. If there's an extra bed, it's more than welcome.

[Weezy]

I just feel like.

[Mandy V]

I put a couch in my sink.

[Weezy]

I also try to make it cozy. I put a TV in there.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

And see, Melissa grew up her. They grew up with foster care. Cost her children. Her mom was like, I will help you.

[Mandy V]

Well, bringing people into the.

[Kevon Stage]

So Melissa grew up like that and that's why I trust her. But I don't want that nigga there. No, I don't know that nigga.

[Mandy V]

He walking out in a towel. Inappropriate. I got my other son in there. You got balls in shirt.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, my towel just slipped.

[Weezy]

You have balls and shit.

[Mandy V]

I don't know that either. Yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no, no, no. And her mom was mad.

[Mandy V]

I'm actually judging her for even asking. But mom, I'm not mad that you said no. I'm not mad that you said no.

[Kevon Stage]

Because I would have said no 1,000%. I was like, but list, like, imagine I said, a girl's just gonna come live with me. She was like, but it's not like that. Blah, blah, blah. And I trust her. Wanna be clear. That's my boo. I love you. I don't trust that nigga. And your mom is tripping. No, everybody go to bed. That's everybody two bed. Wherever that bed is, wherever that bed is, Go there. I'm sorry, bro, we can't help you. We had a two bedroom house.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, wait.

[Kevon Stage]

Two bedrooms, one shower.

[Mandy V]

Like another problem.

[Kevon Stage]

1,200 square feet.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Kevon Stage]

Our bathroom downstairs was in the kitchen. Basically, like the door closed, but you open the door, the refrigerator. You open the door and the refrigerator is the first thing you see. This house is not shareable.

[Mandy V]

What was her response? Did she try to go?

[Kevon Stage]

She. Because she is a kind and genuine person. She didn't want him to be out on the street, but she understood, like, she didn't really factor how it was gonna make me feel.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

And she also grew up, like, you gotta understand, we grew up together, me and melissa, like from 16. And one of the hardest, One of the best things about moving to LA is it allowed us to grow up for real.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

Because we are like heavily influenced by our parents, our pastors. We didn't really grow up, you know, we black. We're not really telling our parents no to stuff, right? Remember the first, within our first month, her mother in law, my mother in law was like, I need you this. She had a foster kid and she was going out of town. She was like, he needs to spend the night at your house. And I was like, no, he's not.

[Weezy]

What?

[Kevon Stage]

He's like six? She's like, can y' all watch him and spend the night? I'll pick him up in the morning. I was like, no, we can watch him and you can pick him up that night and we're done. She was like, why not? Why couldn't he spend the night? Cause I don't. Hey, my nigga, man. I don't want this kid at the house.

[Mandy V]

Not even a six year old.

[Kevon Stage]

No, man, get him out. Because if you say yes once, then you want two kids? Then I'm gone on the weekend. Now you done opened the door.

[Mandy V]

Now you.

[Kevon Stage]

I need you to know I'm not that option. You know, we only had one bed.

[Weezy]

Does Melissa have as many siblings as you?

[Kevon Stage]

We have the same amount of siblings. She's the oldest, two younger sisters. I'm the middle. I had older brother, younger sisters.

[Weezy]

Okay. Because I'm realizing when people have siblings, they're less like little children are.

[Kevon Stage]

I am.

[Mandy V]

Okay, okay, so maybe this makes sense.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm keeping it that bay. What you say, Weezy?

[Weezy]

Oh, I'm noticing that, like with dating people with siblings and having friends with siblings there. I don't wanna say less giving. That's a fucked up way to put it. But a little more selfish with their space in a way that I'm not.

[Kevon Stage]

Are you only child?

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Kevon Stage]

Are you both?

[Mandy V]

Fuck no. I'm the oldest, but I notice it.

[Weezy]

And I'm like, oh, it's cause you are sharing a lot.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes.

[Weezy]

Like with me. I'm like, oh, yeah, come. Cause I don't have anyone around.

[Kevon Stage]

Right.

[Weezy]

I'm like, let's do a sleepover.

[Kevon Stage]

No, I think where you fall in the birth order. How many siblings doesn't matter. It sets you up tremendously, 100%. And I was like, absolutely not. And I don't want your mom thinking we can have foster kids. And this is not our. We're not an option for you to help.

[Mandy V]

Youngest. Youngest children are spoiled.

[Weezy]

I'm scared to get in the phase where Monica gotta start checking my mama.

[Mandy V]

I'm scared.

[Kevon Stage]

But her mom respected me after that. After the foster care kid, she was mad at first. She was like, I'm not gonna help you at all. And I was like, okay. Like, no. And then like two weeks later, she was like, you know what? I was wrong. Like, I was wrong to impose that on you. And she never asked again. And after that nigga tried to live with us, like. And I don't even think it was that Johnny.

[Mandy V]

Well, you. That is.

[Kevon Stage]

That is Liga tried to live with us. I your mom just trying to help. And I think he was on the west coast. It was really just like, oh, these are the closest people to get him out of this tough spot. Motel 6, they'll leave the light on for you.

[Weezy]

You know that.

[Kevon Stage]

That there's Motel 6 everywhere.

[Mandy V]

Did he end up getting back on.

[Kevon Stage]

His feet to him? Oh, not my concern period. And I'm dead serious.

[Mandy V]

I know you are.

[Kevon Stage]

I hung up the phone and I was like, didn't think about that. Man, all y' all are tripping. No. All right. No.

[Weezy]

Not having that big raft.

[Mandy V]

I'm not home.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. Not as a man. I gotta protect my house. He could flip. I don't know why he's not holding his wife.

[Mandy V]

That's a lot.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't know that nigga. Absolutely not. Now, I can't protect you at home. And he done put his hands on, like, I think all the worst things, especially if somebody you don't know, right? And my son was there. My youngest son was like 2.

[Mandy V]

I'm not gonna lie. And not that you care, but I would just say probably a man with terrible dick. Because for him to not be able to rely on any woman, that means his dick was trash.

[Weezy]

You thought of the worst, and she thought of the dick.

[Mandy V]

I'm just saying, if the dick was good, one of the women that he's ever smashed would have brought him in. The fact that he had to rely on a stranger is just.

[Weezy]

I ain't gonna lie. If he fucked me right, he'd have been in my heart.

[Mandy V]

That's what I'm saying. He only gave out trash dick his entire life. He deserves to be home.

[Weezy]

You got some good dick. Dick don't need to put the kid in a foster home.

[Mandy V]

I will never be homeless.

[Kevon Stage]

I will never be homeless. She'll be questioning her choices, explaining herself to her friends and her family.

[Mandy V]

Oh, the friends will talk shit about her. And listen, she gonna be like, but that dick big. And he just need to be here for a little bit till he get back on stage.

[Weezy]

Now, let me tell you.

[Mandy V]

And I'm here to help him.

[Weezy]

A few years ago, maybe four years ago, I fucked a homeless nigga, but not homeless homeless.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah.

[Weezy]

You were out with Breonda, and we were kicking it, and there was this really cute dude. Very like, if you live in New York, you get a very Lower east side black guy. Looks like he's a skateboard. Looks poor. But he's also wearing Rick Owens, so who knew? So hits on me, we talking in the street, and I'm like, bye, Alex, we're going to the Box. And so we go to the Box, which is a very hard club to get in in New York. And we're vibing. He knows everyone. Not paying for drinks, but it's not coming to me. I'm just thinking he lit. That's why we not paying for shit. Yeah, yeah, Take him home. Great sex. Wake up. I was like, shit, I need some water. He's like, oh, I'll go get a Warehouse in the fridge. He opens the fridge and goes, damn.

[Mandy V]

You got a lot of stuff.

[Kevon Stage]

You got milk and cheese and stuff. This is condiments.

[Mandy V]

Barbecue sauce.

[Weezy]

You never could mind you. I'm looking at the dog, I'm looking at other valuable shit in the house. I'm like, oh, God, he about to steal. Then I'm looking at the clothes and I'm like, some bitch bought him these. Fucking Rick. Oh, my God. So he get back in the bed. I'm just starting to look at him and I'm like, what do you do? You know? I'm an artist. I told you, I'm an artist.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm like, oh, no.

[Weezy]

And where do you live? This is the answer. Well, right now I'm between not two coasts. Westchester, Jersey, and like Greenpoint.

[Mandy V]

That's where he lives.

[Weezy]

You're between three neighborhoods that are all within 45 minute drive. Nigga, you don't have all. Now when someone says, I'm between New York and la. Oh, now that's what I want to hear.

[Kevon Stage]

Where do they send mail to you?

[Mandy V]

He probably doesn't.

[Kevon Stage]

Where do you open the thing?

[Mandy V]

You have to go to the post office.

[Weezy]

Then it gets worse. He says, what is that? Is that like your dog's toy or kid's toy? I'm like, that's my dog's toy. He's like, oh, my son has something like that. And where does your son live? My son's in D.C. with his mom. And why aren't you there?

[Mandy V]

Oh, no, that's common.

[Weezy]

Get you home.

[Kevon Stage]

Get you home.

[Weezy]

I ain't gonna lie to y'.

[Kevon Stage]

All.

[Weezy]

I fucked him again. But I see, look, look, look at, look.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God. The story was going.

[Kevon Stage]

But it's the point you were just making.

[Mandy V]

It's the point I was making. If the dick is good, you will never be homeless.

[Weezy]

I fucked him in Paris. He was out there for fashion week.

[Mandy V]

Oh, he wasn't that broke.

[Weezy]

No, bitch. Somebody flew in there for art. I'm convinced he was selling dick in art.

[Mandy V]

The dick was a selling dick. Well, if it was, the dick was.

[Weezy]

Better than the arc because he had a gallery opening. And I was like, the dick was.

[Mandy V]

Better than the art is crazy.

[Weezy]

It was not a gallery.

[Mandy V]

It was subjective.

[Weezy]

It was a pop up gallery in a coffee shop.

[Kevon Stage]

And I said, oh, snap.

[Mandy V]

Ooh. It was given.

[Weezy]

What's the thing where the kids make the macaroni necklaces? No, no, no. When they have to make something in school? Diorama.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, okay.

[Weezy]

That's what it gets.

[Mandy V]

Diorama.

[Kevon Stage]

It's like a little, like, shoebox where you put, like, the planets and stuff or you got your little report.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I did that before. Yeah, with a little planet girl.

[Weezy]

He did some shit with Legos. And if anyone's answering, you're going to know. Not the Nigeria good. Like Legos, bitch. That was his arts and crafts. I think he stole it from his son. Okay, so Successful Failure.

[Mandy V]

Yes, Successful Failure.

[Weezy]

That is the name of your book. And there's a few things in there I wanted to highlight. How horrible. First drink at 29. What the fuck? What was it?

[Mandy V]

What the.

[Weezy]

Tell us.

[Kevon Stage]

Shot a Patron. This was in la.

[Mandy V]

I was sure you were about to say Amaretto Sour.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no, but okay, we was gonna go hard. We were super church kids. Like, I was telling y' all and, like, grew up that, like, alcohol is sin, sin, sin, Right? So me and Melissa were here in la. She would come down every other weekend. My son was shooting Little Rascals, but my. My boys were making videos for awesomeness tv. So we have to shoot two videos and they go back home. And also we just miss other each. But the company would fly them down. So we're all in this little studio, corporate housing studio in Burbank. And we're like, we want to get drunk, man. We like, we changing our life. We no longer believe drinking was a sin. But we didn't know how to get started. We got like a. You know, the, like, single shots, like Patron. So we went to the liquor store. We got.

[Mandy V]

What made you choose Patron?

[Kevon Stage]

It was.

[Mandy V]

You like the bottle.

[Kevon Stage]

It was in the rap songs. They was just. I'm very gullible. I'm influenced by rap tremendously.

[Weezy]

That year you my first choice.

[Kevon Stage]

This was 2012. 2013. 2013.

[Weezy]

That's a good first choice.

[Kevon Stage]

2012.

[Mandy V]

Oh, well.

[Weezy]

Hennessy now, biologically.

[Kevon Stage]

Well, we wanted to take shots.

[Mandy V]

I think it's the rock.

[Weezy]

Like, Mexicanis Mexican. He's Mexican.

[Mandy V]

Oh, that's right. Tequila would be the first one.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, that's that one eighth Mexico, that one eight.

[Weezy]

Did they get anything? Did you feel it when you had it?

[Kevon Stage]

So this is what we thought. I think in my mind, we thought we was gonna have like an LSD trip, right?

[Mandy V]

Wait, off of one shot of Patrol?

[Kevon Stage]

Not even. I guess it was like half a shot technically. Cause we like.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wait, y' all share the little bottle.

[Kevon Stage]

We poured it into, like, we poured it into Sol cups, though.

[Mandy V]

Oh, we out here.

[Kevon Stage]

So we lights off, boys are asleep. We pour these shots half and half. Cheers. We're like, we're about to get drunk. Are you ready? Ready. Okay. We took this. This is like 11:30 at night. We took the shot of Patron, burned down our throat. We laid down on the bed and went, all right, here. Here it goes. And I'm, like, preparing. We're both preparing to take an LSD trip and be like, woo. We woke up the next morning and we were like, I don't think anything happened. So we text her sister, her younger sister, who was much more fun. She was like, nigga, what? What, y'?

[Mandy V]

All.

[Kevon Stage]

You took half a shot of Patron and laid down. Like, I don't think any. You gotta drink and dance and, like, you gotta be dancing. And, like, you. That's. You're not. You're never gonna get drunk off of half a shot of Patron. So obviously we didn't know what we were doing.

[Mandy V]

You tried it again.

[Kevon Stage]

We tried it again, but, I mean, we didn't do it just like that. Like, now, I've been drunk before, but drinking takes activation.

[Weezy]

That's a good point.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

You're depressed and you sit in the house or like, I had my first drink in two months because I was just, like, on a little fitness journey.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So this Saturday, I went out in la and I was like, it's time, man. Let me tell you. It's like riding a bike when you're a party guy. I had three sips in Mel's Cal. I said, we should call the drug guy.

[Kevon Stage]

Call the drug guy.

[Weezy]

Hard Summer is a festival that's going on. This is three sips of mezcal. Care. It's 10:45. This is just because, you know, they say acid and LSD stays in your spine. Drugs can stay in your spine.

[Kevon Stage]

I did.

[Weezy]

I think I pulled it back out. So have three sips of Mezcal. And I was like, let's call them all, you guys. Let's fucking. The. The music festival's ending. There's gonna be a techno rave. And he's like, bitch, don't we have to fucking do horrible things?

[Kevon Stage]

Aren't you, like, go to work.

[Mandy V]

The fuck?

[Weezy]

I'm like, but we need the story for the podcast. So imagine if I get the bag, get a little drugs in me, then I show up. I got more to tell.

[Mandy V]

Did you. Have you ever tried any drugs?

[Weezy]

Weed.

[Kevon Stage]

Weed is in the book.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Kevon Stage]

I smoked the weeds.

[Mandy V]

You smoked the weeds?

[Kevon Stage]

I smoked the weeds one time.

[Mandy V]

One time.

[Kevon Stage]

One time I smoked the weeds, and one time I did an edible. The full story's in the book.

[Mandy V]

The edible. Okay. I want to. I. I have to read you on an edible.

[Kevon Stage]

The hard thing.

[Mandy V]

Because the first time I took and edible. Well, it was edible. It was during Pandemic.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

And my friend at the time, shout out to Destiny. She listens to the pod. She had a guy that put him into, like, food.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

And so this was my first can of food. So this was my first time. I was like, oh, shit. This nigga got cheesecake. He got brownies. He got regular food. He had all the things. No lie. And I probably have shared this story on Horrible. So I get the cheesecake. But, you know, there's no. It doesn't say how much weed is in there.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

And the cheesecake was divine. So I literally eat the cheesecake.

[Kevon Stage]

Anime.

[Mandy V]

And literally, next thing you know, I am in bed. Curdled up. I'm in the group chat now. Like, mind you, this is when all the rappers were dying from shit. And I said, oh, my God, if I die, y', all. It was just the cheesecake. And I'm literally.

[Kevon Stage]

Cheesecake.

[Mandy V]

Hold on. No, My heart was out of my chest. I'm literally in a fetal position in my bed in this group chat, like, y', all, I'm gonna die. And I'm literally. I'm so fucking scared. Finally, I don't know what happens. Literally, as I'm laying there, I just start throwing up Exorcist style.

[Weezy]

That's what I'm telling you. That's the key, you know, When I.

[Mandy V]

Permute you, when I tell you, hon, that whole duvet, baby, had to go. Had to go. It was Exorcist style. Just because I was still so high. I was just laying it.

[Kevon Stage]

How did it go away?

[Mandy V]

That's how I got unhydrated.

[Weezy]

So basically, you have to, like, purge, bruh, when you have a max limit of cannabis in your body. Which is why, I don't know.

[Mandy V]

It was the max.

[Weezy]

Yeah, it dumps it, but it's only from ingesting that this.

[Mandy V]

Man, that shit. I was pissed to die, so I don't know what your motherfucking. I can't wait to get to that part of the book.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, it's a good story. Both are good stories.

[Weezy]

My favorite story was the doo doo.

[Mandy V]

So let's get into. We're gonna leave out of here with shit.

[Weezy]

The way that this story is prefaced by the way he's like, I know many of you have heard this. It's one that I tell all the time. Here we go again.

[Mandy V]

That's how I Felt writing the book, literally, I didn't wanna put that I pegged niggas in the book, but literally.

[Weezy]

It was like, hey, booty little stuff.

[Mandy V]

You have to have a chapter about Peggy.

[Kevon Stage]

You got to mind you, it was.

[Mandy V]

Just gonna be about anal sex. My first anal orgasm. And then I was like, fuck, okay. It's what the audience wants. So I had to fucking add the pegging in there. So it was a whole period now. So doo doo.

[Weezy]

There was other good shit, by the way.

[Mandy V]

I want to hear doo story, by the way.

[Weezy]

Like check out the manifestation plan. That was great.

[Mandy V]

Period.

[Weezy]

And the freaknik black women thickening racial tension. Great. But let's end on shit.

[Mandy V]

Let's end on doo doo. And then we normally like to ask too, how much it would take for you to be shitted on. But we'll save that for the edge. Everyone has a number.

[Weezy]

We ask it almost every 10 episodes.

[Kevon Stage]

Hilarious. In eight years.

[Weezy]

It just keeps coming back up.

[Kevon Stage]

The short version of the story is that like many things in my life, had I listened to Melissa, this would not have happened. Okay, so we were in college and at this time I had an apartment in Tacoma and she. She lived with her parents, but we went to school in Seattle. So every Friday we would ride the bus together to the Tacoma dome station. And I would take her to her parents house for the weekend, drive her back on Sunday in her dorm. She didn't have like a full size refrigerator. She had a. She had like a gallon of Dreyer's rocky road ice cream. And she had bought it the night before. She was like, I was in a rocky road mood. You know, I had some ice cream. She like ate some of it then just couldn't fit in. Her refrigerator didn't have a freezer part, so she just left it on the thing. She's like, I'll throw it away when I leave the next day. Hadn't. Hadn't thrown it away yet. And we're leaving. So I get to her dorm to, you know, walk with her to ride the bus. I'm like, oh, snap, I love rocky Road and I'm gonna have some. And she was like, oh, no, Kev, that's been sitting out online. I was just gonna throw that away when we left. Like, don't eat that. And I was like, why? She was like, it's been sitting out all night. Like, it's gonna mess your stomach up. And for whatever reason, I took that as a challenge.

[Weezy]

Wait, this wasn't about milk. I thought you were lax.

[Mandy V]

Ice cream is lactose.

[Kevon Stage]

I mean.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no.

[Weezy]

But reading it, I'm thinking, oh, he's lactose.

[Kevon Stage]

No.

[Mandy V]

Well, he's black.

[Weezy]

We're all.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, we're all lactose. It's a black thing.

[Kevon Stage]

I think it's like.

[Weezy]

No, it's because it was sitting out.

[Mandy V]

No. But also, every black person is lactose intolerant. Yes, it's a thing. I've heard.

[Kevon Stage]

It's actually. We're allergic to dairy.

[Mandy V]

We are. But it shouldn't be fucking drinking it.

[Kevon Stage]

We shouldn't.

[Mandy V]

And then what's crazy is I just found out, too. Almond and oat milk, not healthy. We shouldn't be drinking nut milk either.

[Kevon Stage]

That's wrong with nut milk.

[Mandy V]

The algorithm. The algorithm said nothing's right. I said, no. They said almond milk.

[Weezy]

Was nothing wrong about too much water.

[Mandy V]

They said oat milk.

[Kevon Stage]

I've seen that too much water is bad for you.

[Mandy V]

Wait, who said that?

[Weezy]

That's on Subway. It takes.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Back to the shit.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

But now this makes sense.

[Kevon Stage]

Ice cream. We all shit after ice cream 1000%. But if you eat warm ice cream, it'll happen faster.

[Mandy V]

You wanting to eat warm ice cream.

[Kevon Stage]

I just really. Once I saw it, I was like.

[Weezy]

Wait, you ate it before a bus?

[Kevon Stage]

Before a bus. And she was like, why? To prove to her that my stomach was made of steel. Because for whatever reason, when she told me not to eat it, I took it as a challenge. She was like, kevin, it's gonna mess your stomach up. And I was like, you don't know my stomach. I can eat this.

[Mandy V]

And she was like, I do that with leftovers. I love. Like, depending on how many days it's been there, I'd be like, I'll be fine.

[Kevon Stage]

1,000.

[Mandy V]

They're gonna kill me.

[Kevon Stage]

And that's how you do.

[Mandy V]

That's how you felt. Okay, how many minutes from the consumption.

[Weezy]

To the bus consumption?

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, man. It was probably. I mean, we were getting ready to leave, so it was probably no more than 12 minutes.

[Weezy]

How many minutes were you on the bus?

[Kevon Stage]

It was like an hour and 10 minutes. And I lasted an hour and five minutes.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God.

[Kevon Stage]

I was on the bus, on myself on the bus. I was almost there.

[Mandy V]

Did it stink? Like, you should have.

[Weezy]

Just walk us through one of the best lines I've ever read in a book. I don't know if I'm saying it right, because it. I looked down at my backpack and thought about the journals in there and.

[Kevon Stage]

How much stuff I was gonna doodle in my backpack, but it was like a $40 backpack. It was a little JanSport. I don't have $40 again. Like, if I doodle in this backpack, I just don't have no backpack no more. So I'm not doodling it in my backpack.

[Mandy V]

But wait, no, you would have.

[Kevon Stage]

People would have saw me. And people would have saw me, too, but more than people sent me. I love that backpack.

[Weezy]

But did it start from a fart?

[Kevon Stage]

No. So what happened was, like, I was fighting for my life for an hour. Like, we get in the thing, and Melissa went to sleep. She's like, all right, goes to sleep. We start off with no traffic. And this is how I'm like, just for, like, 30 minutes. And then I get real hot. I start sweating and stuff, and I just can never get comfortable. And I'm like this, you know, like, breathing hard and stuff. And the thing is about the human body, which I don't understand to this day.

[Mandy V]

You don't understand the human body.

[Kevon Stage]

When you get close to the bathroom, your mind thinks you're at the bathroom.

[Mandy V]

It's terrible.

[Kevon Stage]

Worst thing ever happened is we get off the freeway to get to the bus station. There's three red lights left. I'm like, if I could just make it through these three, I'm destroy the bathroom at the Coma Dome station, which is already disgusting because it's like a stainless steel toilet. It's like a jail toilet. But I gotta do what I gotta do. So I'm there and I'm like, you know your sphincter. It wasn't sphincting. Like, I remember. Like, I'm closing my booty hole as much as I can. Little farts are escaping. And every time I look at my feet, it's all there by feet.

[Weezy]

Like him.

[Kevon Stage]

Doodle would come a little closer. So that's.

[Mandy V]

Wait, you're making me squeeze my boot at home right now.

[Kevon Stage]

Squeeze. I'm doing butt kegels. And I'm holding it. And then I remember, like, a little fart came out. And then I couldn't close. Like, it didn't go. It didn't go all the way back no more. And I'm like, oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. And then it just, like, start, like, rumbling. And I'm trying to close, and it's not closing. And then it was just like, oh, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. Judy's coming out. Doodle's coming. Dude is coming out. Doodle's coming out. Doodle's coming out. And then it just, like, opened liquid. And then just. It was opening. And then my butt Was open, and then the doodle was coming out, and I was just. I kind of. At one point, I just kind of resigned myself, and I was just like, I could not hold it anymore. I literally.

[Mandy V]

That's the type of doo doo, though, that you got a little, like, there's no money. I said it had to be solid. If I got shitted on. That's the type of doo doo that I could. Cause I know that was probably. It was just.

[Kevon Stage]

I had literally.

[Mandy V]

The rocky road melted.

[Weezy]

What the fuck was Melissa doing?

[Kevon Stage]

She. By that time, she asleep almost the whole duration. But when it was happening, she mysteriously woke up, and she looked at me, and I was just like.

[Mandy V]

Oh, she loves you.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, she does.

[Mandy V]

She loves you.

[Kevon Stage]

It was like, because you started.

[Mandy V]

Shaq shitted all the things, and it.

[Kevon Stage]

Was like, the full thing.

[Mandy V]

How did you stitch it?

[Kevon Stage]

So I had windbreakers on that were tapered at the bottom.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no.

[Kevon Stage]

Blue windbreakers on. And those were my pants. When I stood up, it, like. And it clumped down, and it got. Doo doo was stuck at my ankles. And the windbreakers really kept the doo doo there. So I'd like doo doo on my socks and on my ankle. So I had to, like, walk to the bathroom with doodle ankles.

[Mandy V]

That is disgusting, Kev. That is disgusting.

[Kevon Stage]

True story. I threw my drawers away. I, like, got the doodle out in the, like, trash.

[Mandy V]

You didn't put them windbreakers back on?

[Kevon Stage]

I had to go home.

[Mandy V]

Wait, you didn't.

[Kevon Stage]

I had to still go home. This is at the bus station.

[Mandy V]

There was nothing.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm still in class.

[Mandy V]

Your wife didn't ask anybody if they had an extra pair of pants. Who carries extra pants if you're on a bus? Don't people got luggage?

[Kevon Stage]

No, this is.

[Mandy V]

You had a backpack.

[Kevon Stage]

No, this is, like, people just coming home to work. This is just a bus. You go to work in Seattle. You come home from work Sundays last.

[Weezy]

Night, and I'm thinking, I'm sure you've told this story.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, this is my closer for many years. On stage, that is.

[Mandy V]

Bro.

[Weezy]

Like, the chocolate sundae also is making me round.

[Kevon Stage]

So I, like, had doodle everywhere.

[Mandy V]

You had rocky road down your leg.

[Kevon Stage]

Down my leg. And I had to go to my apartment before I took her home. I had to go to my apartment, take a shower, threw all those clothes away, obviously. And she never, like. She just was like, hmm. Well, he would have listened, should have listened. She never even had to say it. She just had an air about her that was like, wow. But I remember as A standup. I was a young standup, and I didn't even have that joke in my thing. I would just be telling people that the story at, like, barbecues, and they would be doubling over in laughter. And so it was my closer for, like, a good way longer than it should not way. It was a killer.

[Weezy]

I'm not gonna hold you reading. When you read and laugh, it's kind of embarrassing also because shout out to what the fuck was his name? It starts with a P. Sorry. I'm on a Delta flight. Dude's like, oh, love horrible. Da da da. I'm dying laughing at this doo doo joke. And mind you, but I'm reading the book on my phone. Cause it's not out yet. So he's like, girl, who text you? And I was like, do you know.

[Mandy V]

Who Kev on stage is, Kevon?

[Weezy]

He was like, nah. And then I said, you ever heard about his shit story? I'm not joking. He goes, everybody heard that.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

See, I told you. I'm like, I'm reading it now.

[Kevon Stage]

I told you.

[Mandy V]

Duh.

[Kevon Stage]

But that's. I remember my editor was like. I was like, man, I told this story like. And they were like, new people are gonna read this. It's. Everybody won't know. And there's a level of detail you guys know when writing a book that on stage, you can't do it in person. Like, they want you to. I be like, bruh.

[Mandy V]

Okay, how many more adjectives?

[Kevon Stage]

I don't know how to tell you, but it's so good to know that you like, that was a fresh story for you. And hopefully somebody else will laugh like you did.

[Weezy]

They don't. I'm telling you. You could have heard it, seen it, and helped it punch up the joke. That goddamn book is funny. Tell every. Oh, not God.

[Kevon Stage]

It's already out.

[Weezy]

Okay, well, tell people where to find it and what you're giving out with it.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah. Successful failure is out September 23, thanks to the ladies here on Decision Decisions. You can now get my masterclass free. If you go to the link in my bio and you preorder pre order the book, you fill out this form, and then you'll upload the receipt of your pre order and we will send you a link of my masterclass over 30 hours of how to build your. Yeah, Social media.

[Weezy]

Oh, we ain't had all that.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, you did.

[Mandy V]

You went above and beyond.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I went hard. When y' all said that, I was like, this is great, because I got y'. All. Y' all thing.

[Mandy V]

Our Masterclass.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, your masterclass. And how to eat out, right?

[Mandy V]

Oh, how to eat pussy.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And yours is our social media.

[Mandy V]

What is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry, guys. You won't get any sex tips from Kev.

[Kevon Stage]

No, no, no. Just tips on how to grow on social media for me. But yeah, it's completely free. And that used to be $300. So it's a little.

[Mandy V]

Hello. Legit value is $300. We made up our value.

[Weezy]

Yeah, $499.

[Mandy V]

We were like, this is worth $499.

[Weezy]

Hey, five sounds too high. Five sounds too high. But teacher, what makes you put the cost in there?

[Kevon Stage]

Yes, absolutely. And mine was 299 for some years. And you'll get that free and you'll get the book. It's a good book.

[Mandy V]

And y', all, you helped us do it. And we want to help Kev because he's a New York Times bestseller. We need. I found out that like 01% of all authors even are able to get that. And we need more black owned 0101.

[Kevon Stage]

And we don't have Target, y'. All. So we. We can't go into Target and buy them.

[Mandy V]

We say, support black owned woman owned.

[Weezy]

That'll help you too.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, no, no, that.

[Kevon Stage]

That's what helps you get on the New York Times bestselling list more than Amazon.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, no, no, no.

[Kevon Stage]

You need them to go support black owned independent bookstores.

[Weezy]

Those independent books also kind of makes you feel like, damn, this is a good guy. I'm glad he got rich.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes.

[Weezy]

No, really like reading it and then also finding out your son had the big break.

[Kevon Stage]

Yes. I had to really sit with that.

[Weezy]

I love when.

[Kevon Stage]

Cause I didn't name my son after me because I was like, I don't want him to have that pressure. And then he booked a movie at five. And I was like, nah, you should have had my name. I could have been getting Google confusion. Like, he was killing. He was on Nickelodeon. He was on Little Rascals.

[Mandy V]

Oh, shit.

[Kevon Stage]

At like 6 and 4. And I was like, I should have been. You should have been named after me. I would have named myself after you.

[Weezy]

And now you're doing this stuff at 40.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, I only took 40. He did it at 5 and 6. So, yeah, it's a good time. It's my life told from the point of view of the failures instead of the successes. Because it's so much more interesting to tell to me. And uplifting. Like, we all taking Ls, but we're not all Talking about them. So I wanted to talk about them because it's much more interesting and it tells you how I became good at things by being bad at them first.

[Mandy V]

Well, I am going to buy a lot of copies.

[Kevon Stage]

Thank you.

[Mandy V]

We're going to definitely support. And then also, wait, let's moderate.

[Weezy]

Unless you have someone more famous, but let's moderate.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. When you ever do. When you moderate, when you do your book signing, Love to come in, ask you.

[Kevon Stage]

I'm doing. I'm not doing a traditional tour. I'm doing a meet and greet tour.

[Mandy V]

That's kind of what.

[Kevon Stage]

That's what we just did it.

[Mandy V]

That's what we just switched to.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Mandy V]

So now, like, we're doing the bookstores, book signings.

[Kevon Stage]

That's what I'm doing.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. Instead of doing.

[Kevon Stage]

Because I was doing the, like, theater thing. But it's just.

[Mandy V]

It's not the same for a book. You got it. You got to.

[Weezy]

I'm so glad you heard someone else say it unprovoked.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

We ended up canceling our tour, as you guys know.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, y' all be canceling stuff. I be seeing y' all stuff, and I be seeing it going.

[Mandy V]

We have stores. Well, no, it wasn't.

[Kevon Stage]

No, I think it's a better.

[Mandy V]

And we still.

[Kevon Stage]

And I don't do meet and greets.

[Mandy V]

Oh.

[Kevon Stage]

I don't like to meet people before or after a show.

[Mandy V]

Well, also to make it make sense for the. Even including the book we were charging so much and for to have to become a New York. Plus, the book, it was a good lot. And so, like, for us now, like, being New York Times bestsellers and our audience helping us get there, it's like, no, we want to be.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, y' all got. Y' all still doing it even though you already made it.

[Mandy V]

We just did one this week.

[Weezy]

You can make it for another week.

[Mandy V]

You can make it another week.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, yeah, you're right.

[Mandy V]

Once you're on there. And so now that, like, now that people are back, like the J Huds and all them are back on, we're hoping to do traditional music.

[Kevon Stage]

Oh, that's great.

[Mandy V]

But niggas ain't really fucking with sex or the name of the book, so we'll see.

[Weezy]

But our failures are definitely making to ktla.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Yeah. I'll tell you right now.

[Mandy V]

They said NHB by Mandy and Easy.

[Weezy]

Update Hot W Decision. Whoa.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, they. Yeah, they do.

[Weezy]

You know what PR Put out for us for press? How to have a Hot Girl Summer.

[Mandy V]

That is what PR Pitched us as. Because. And then the mental health aspect of the book, we could. They were like, yeah, well, you bitches know how to have a hot girl summer. Let's lean into that. That's what the fucking pr.

[Weezy]

But I will tell you, I think.

[Mandy V]

That three years out of. God damn it. God damn it. Also because we had such a great time, too. Please let our audience, who is looking for something else to listen to, to be entertained by all this stuff that you're.

[Kevon Stage]

Here's the thing. Podcast with me and angel and Josh is a good time. The ladies were on there. We had a great time. If you don't watch any other episode, watch their episode. You have a good time. Watch other episodes. I'm on Patreon as well. Kevin Studios. Pull up to that. I've got the Churchies coming out on the 21st. I have a show called the Hospital that I sold at bet that's coming out.

[Mandy V]

Y' all are listening to the next Tyler Perry.

[Kevon Stage]

Come on, man, ask about it, period. And I gotta show up to why.

[Weezy]

It'S good to support certain rich people, sir. Because they really will put jobs back into the community.

[Kevon Stage]

Listen, I really. To me, it's really about bringing everybody with me. Like, not everybody, but as many people.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. At least some of them.

[Kevon Stage]

Yeah, everybody eats. Be as many people as possibly can. But yeah, if you invest into me, I invest into the community, so it's not just going into my pocket.

[Mandy V]

Well, thank you so much for coming on.

[Kevon Stage]

Thank you for having me, man.

[Mandy V]

Kevon Stahe, y'. All. Kevon Sahe. And y' all already know. Our book is out. No holds barred. A dual manifesto, sexual exploration and power. Get that wherever you get books. We also did the audiobook version of it where you could hear our places. If you like the podcast. And we are also on Patreon. Horrible Decisions is still here, just over behind a paywall. So if you want the nasty shit. If you want to hear how Weezy sucks more dick, please go ahead and support. It's patreon.com Horrible decision. Thank you, guys. This has been another episode of the Scission. The sizzy ons. We. We. Bye bye. CIA Foreign.

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[Mandy V]

This is an I Heart podcast.