Ep. 436: Babies, Breakups & Big Secrets (Ft. SK & Mylin)

Summary

Decisions, Decisions Ep. 436: "Babies, Breakups & Big Secrets" (ft. SK & Mylin)

Podcast: Decisions, Decisions
Hosts: Mandii B and WeezyWTF
Guests: SK & Mylin
Date: September 1, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this candid and laughter-filled episode, Mandii B and WeezyWTF welcome dynamic couple and content creators SK and Mylin. Together, they explore the realities of queer family-building, non-traditional relationships, breakups and healing, and the navigation of identity, parenting, and community. The conversation gets deeply personal as all four women dissect issues around queer parenting, sperm donation, sexuality, and the impact of evolving identities within long-term relationships, all while maintaining Decisions, Decisions' trademark blend of raunch, raw honesty, and comedic banter.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing SK & Mylin: Queer Family & Online Presence

• Background: SK and Mylin are celebrated online for their openness around their love story and raising three sons as a queer couple. Both women have carried children, an experience that sparks curiosity and conversation online.
• Visibility Matters: Guests note the uniqueness and importance of sharing their family’s journey, as representation is rare for two-mom families where both partners have carried children.

2. The Relationship Origin Story: From Hesitation to Reunion

• Getting Together Wasn’t Linear
  • There was a three-year gap between when they met and began dating.
  • "It was quick, but it wasn't that quick…We didn't get together for three years." — Myelin [08:50]
  • Both had relationships with other women and went through breakups before uniting.
• Breakups, Growth, and Reconciliation
  • A dramatic breakup involved blocking and distance, until SK reached out to Mylin on her birthday two years later, leading to their reconciliation.
  • "She was on my mind heavy. And it was two years later, and I was like, I'mma just do it. When something's really heavy on my heart, I'm just like, just go with it." — SK [10:47]
• Breakup Drama:
  • Mylin recounts discovering her then-girlfriend was cheating with a woman who attended her birthday party, resulting in a tumultuous ending and eventual support from SK.

3. Arguing, Making Up, and Emotional Growth

• Disagreements:
  • Their long-term arguments are usually mature, focused on disagreements rather than fights or derogatory language.
  • "We don't, like, cuss at each other or like…It's very emotionally mature, for sure." — SK [18:14]
• Sleeping Arrangements During Disputes:
  • Despite disagreements, they never sleep apart: "I didn't get married to sleep separate. I don't ever sleep separate." — Myelin [22:47]
  • Mandii and Weezy debate the merits of needing space in a relationship, showing varied perspectives on conflict resolution.

4. Hall Passes & Open Relationships: Navigating Desire

• Their Hall Passes:
  • SK’s crush: Shannon Thornton ("She fine as hell. It's like unruly." — Myelin [25:19]),
  • Mylin professes her love for Keke Palmer.
• Views on Non-Monogamy:
  • It’s not a “hard no;” as their relationship evolves, so do their conversations about monogamy and openness.
  • "We are not who we were when we got married…if you look back, back before, this ain't who I walked down the aisle to." — SK [27:47]

5. Evolving Identities & Relationships Over Time

• Transformation:

  • Both partners highlight the importance of recognizing and supporting personal growth in a long-term relationship, including name changes and shifts in presentation.

    • "So much so that she doesn't go by her birth name anymore…I can't believe you called me that. Like, it just like, it was just…that." — SK [30:22]

  • Discuss the necessity of couples therapy for ongoing evolution as individuals and as a couple.

6. History and Reality of Queer Family-Building

• Sperm Donation History:

  • Weezy offers a quirky history lesson, detailing how artificial insemination started in 1779 by an Italian priest on animals, and the first human insemination was non-consensual [42:12].
  • The guests and hosts demystify sperm survival "myths" (e.g., how long sperm lives outside the body).

• Their Family-Building Journey:

  • Both had children from previous relationships and then each carried one child within their relationship.
  • Financial barriers made IVF inaccessible, so they used a known donor with a legally detailed donor agreement—no sex involved, just at-home insemination.
  • "We have a known donor…He was very open, he was very honest with us…We put in a contract…He signed. We got it notarized." — Myelin [49:31]
  • They are both on their children's birth certificates but, due to legal limitations, still have to legally adopt their own children for full parental recognition.
    • "So the baby that I carried, I am on the birth certificate. She's also on the birth certificate, but it doesn't mean enough." — Myelin [53:53]

7. Parenting, Law, and Queer Realities

• Explaining Family Structure to Kids:
  • Children know they came from “mama’s stomach," and logic-driven questions are anticipated, especially as their oldest (on the autism spectrum) seeks understanding.
• Legal Hurdles:
  • Despite being listed on the birth certificate, laws in many places require same-sex parents to complete costly and invasive second-parent adoption procedures.

8. Breaking Stigmas: Boys, Fathers & Masculinity

• Challenging "Boys Need Dads":
  • The group laughs at the notion that only men can raise boys, highlighting both their own upbringings and the prevalence of women-led households—"How many boys are raised by women across the globe?" — Myelin [61:09]

9. Intersectionality: Queerness and Race

• Race & Family Acceptance:
  • The complexities of raising biracial children and interracial queer partnerships are unpacked, along with stories of familial bias against both queerness and interracial relationships.
• White women as hypothetical hall passes:
  • The group jokingly debates which white celebrities count as "acceptable" crushes, blending levity with cultural critique [72:39].

10. Sex Positivity, Platonic Sex & Queer Friendship Culture

• Sex With Friends:
  • Mandii shares her outlook that platonic sex among friends can be normal, recreational, and emotionally non-disruptive, prompting reflection from the group.
    • "Sex to me is fun. Yeah, Sex to me is like. Like, we went bowling the other day… all of those emotional ties, like, the exchange of…It's just fun." — Mandy V [88:32]
• Scissoring, Toys & Lesbian Sex Realness:
  • The hosts and guests get explicit about preferences and experiences (scissoring, toy use, etc.), closing the episode with laughs and transparency.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Breakups and Returning to Love:

  • "When something's really heavy on my heart, I'm just like, just go with it." — SK [10:47]

• On Emotional Maturity in Arguments:

  • "Our arguments are never fights, and they are disagreements." — SK [18:09]

• On the Limitations of Legal Parentage:

  • "The baby that I carried, I am on the birth certificate. She's also on the birth certificate, but it doesn't mean enough." — Myelin [53:53]
  • "So we could be gay, but we can't be gay parent." — SK [54:23]

• On Law, Love, and the Growth of Family:

  • "It should be like, women want to keep it a secret because everybody's going to be like, you're going to meet somebody. Whatever, whatever." — Weezy [46:45]

• On Evolving Through Love:

  • "We are not who we were when we got married." — SK [27:47]

• On Platonic Sex and Queer Friendship:

  • "Sex to me is fun... all of those emotional ties, like, the exchange of…It's just fun." — Mandy V [88:32]
  • "It's not uncommon. Yeah." — Myelin [89:22]

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Important Segment Timestamps

• [02:03] – SK & Mylin discuss legal realities of queer parenthood
• [08:48] – The origin story: meeting and (eventually) dating
• [10:47] – SK admits why she reached out after their breakup
• [12:31] – Mylin recalls her ex cheating at her own birthday party
• [18:09] – Emotional maturity in disagreements
• [22:47] – Do they ever sleep apart during arguments?
• [25:10] – Hall pass picks—Shannon Thornton, Keke Palmer
• [27:47] – Not the same people they married; on growth and therapy
• [30:22] – Name changes and growing into identity within the couple
• [42:12] – History of sperm donation and artificial insemination
• [49:31] – How SK & Mylin navigated sperm donation and contracts
• [53:53] – Legal necessity for adopting one’s own biological child
• [61:09] – Challenging the “boys need a father” myth
• [72:39] – "Which white woman would you pick?" segment (humor)
• [88:32] – Mandii on sex as fun, not emotional, among friends

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Final Note & Where to Find the Guests

• SK & Mylin’s Projects:
  • Hella Good Company podcast & event production (centered on Black queer women, trans-inclusive).
  • SK: Artist, works with foster kids through art therapy.
  • Mylin: Runs an interior design firm.
• Upcoming/Recent Event: Their first international Pride event in Tulum.

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This episode of Decisions, Decisions delivers a refreshingly unfiltered take on queer parenting, sex, growth, and community—balancing humor, heartfelt moments, and invaluable social commentary for anyone questioning, loving, or navigating nontraditional families.

Transcript

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[Mandy V]

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[Myelin]

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[Mandy V]

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[SK]

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[Myelin]

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[Mandy V]

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[Weezy]

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[SK]

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[Myelin]

The baby that I carried, I am on the birth certificate. She's also on the birth certificate, but it doesn't mean enough. Our oldest, his superpower is logic. He's like I want to know and I need to know what logic is.

[Weezy]

So we can be gay but we.

[SK]

Can'T be gay parent.

[Myelin]

They just going to make us pet.

[Weezy]

Welcome to Decisions, Decisions. I don't think you should say decisions.

[Mandy V]

It sounded like you was talking in cursive.

[Weezy]

You definitely say the. Welcome.

[Mandy V]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Weezy]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together?

[Mandy V]

Decisions, Decisions.

[Weezy]

Hey, guys.

[Mandy V]

Welcome to another week, another episode of Decisions, Decisions. It's your girl Mandy V, AKA Peg the Stallion, AKA Peg and Markle, AKA what up, Peggy Bundy, AKA that bitch. Okay. Hey, y'.

[Weezy]

All, I'm Weezy. And we are in another foursome. We have two ladies in the building. They're not podcasters, but I will say these are two people that people keep sending me. I don't know if they just like, oh, go join the. You know, everybody wanna put me up with somebody. Bitches be doing that. And it's probably cause of your braids, Molly. Ah, that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait, wait. They be sending them to you to go fuck them.

[Weezy]

Oh, no. Girls will send me like, other, like, lesbian couples.

[Mandy V]

I know. There's one I follow now. And you be in all her likes. And I'm like some girl that does this little thing where she dresses kind of masculine.

[Weezy]

She does that switch. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

What's her name? Bring on me. What's her name?

[Weezy]

Fine.

[SK]

All I know is I can always read it. I haven't heard her say it.

[Mandy V]

No, I think it's K. It's K, thankfully.

[SK]

Yeah. I don't want to, but me and.

[Mandy V]

Weezy do not have the same type.

[Myelin]

Okay, that's your type.

[Mandy V]

But this is.

[Myelin]

I'm like, look, she looks mad.

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy? So she's. No, no, no.

[Myelin]

I'm stressed.

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy for me? First off, she look really like a different. Which is crazy.

[Myelin]

Night and day.

[Mandy V]

She does not look like the same girl. The one. The first time I saw her. The first time I saw it, she came up on my feed and I was like, wait, that's the same tattoo. Wait, this is. Cause I thought it was a couple.

[Myelin]

Oh, wow.

[Mandy V]

And then I was like, oh, wait, this is the same bitch. For me, she looks way more better. Or to me, I'm more attracted to her masculine than femme. Which is crazy because I normally only fuck femme girls because masc bitches, once they find out, like, I'm bisexual, like, masc bitches don't like bisexuals. It's a fucking fact. Do not. They'll fuck you. No, no, no, no. They. I don't think they like it.

[Myelin]

I married one.

[Mandy V]

Wait, you're bisexual?

[SK]

Ten years ago when we got married.

[Mandy V]

Okay, let's introduce our guest. I'm sorry, y'.

[Weezy]

All.

[Mandy V]

Hi. And what I can tell you, because I didn't even hear you say it.

[Weezy]

We have SK And Myelin in the building.

[Mandy V]

And there we go.

[Weezy]

Stokes Kennedy.

[Myelin]

Stokes Kennedy.

[Weezy]

Myelin and S.K. stokes Kennedy. So they are multi hyphenate, creatives, content creators. And they've been sharing their love story online, which is really why I know them and many of you probably follow them and seen them. And to me, the biggest part of this story, which we have couples on all the time, just to talk about love, but is the fact that you are raising three sons and you've both carried your children, which you just never tend to see. And so honestly, whenever we have two, like a good looking couple, I'd be like, let's do them on horrible decisions. But we need to get into sperm donation. We've been talking about Ebony K. Williams. We've been talking about your friend who we are seeing. So many women decide to have children on their own. So I think outside of queer couples, gay men, gay women having babies through suburb donation, the conversation's really gonna help everybody. So that's what I wanna dig into. But before we dig into.

[Mandy V]

And then also some ho shit would love to talk some queer shit somehow how masc women don't like bisexual. We're gonna get into all the things that happened.

[Weezy]

Actually, this one, of course, we wanna know how you met and all that. But no lie. Something I was thinking about. We were recording with Paul Pierce and Azara before this, and one of the questions came up when you said, would either of y' all be in an open relationship? And I literally looked over and was like, that's on my list of what to ask y'. All.

[Mandy V]

Ew. Out the gate. You're just gonna ask them if they wanna fuck other people out the gate.

[Myelin]

She said on that episode, you have.

[Weezy]

To be locked in.

[Myelin]

Everybody's gotta be so happy to even consider it, right? You should start there. Are we in love?

[Mandy V]

Make sure for she open.

[Weezy]

Okay, buddy?

[Mandy V]

Before we start giving them an online, like, discussion right here. Because maybe they haven't had this conversation together.

[Weezy]

The thing that I'm thinking about is it's people sending me them and saying, ooh, what's up? They ain't in California.

[Myelin]

Ooh, show me the DMS.

[Weezy]

Sending y' all that shit.

[Myelin]

Show me the DMs.

[Weezy]

I'm saying over the, like, no lie. Over the years, like, really like, it's come up. They cute. Y' all should have them. But literally, to me, I'm like, I know the DMs with other women are.

[Myelin]

Like, I'll be honest. We've been on the Internet as a couple for a really long time. And I think that, too, for women, I don't know, because men operate a different way on the Internet, the way that they are entitled. But for women to see a married couple and be like, what y' all doing is very rare. Very rarely would a woman just operate like that in our DMs. Now in public, don't get me wrong. Like, we be out and, like, people should walk up to you or how you approach other people. Whatever way it works.

[Mandy V]

They send y' all drinks. Like, how. How do. How do normally y' all get hit on as a couple?

[Myelin]

Me and my are very touchy. Oh, we have a lot of PDA in general, which I think turns people up in general. So if you're in a space where somebody is attract, I'm assuming you and your boyfriend be. Or husband. I don't know, your partner be on each other in a certain kind of way that almost always, like, invites people to be like, I want to know what the hell is happening over there.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no. I be telling people, get a room. Get a room.

[Weezy]

Making out makes me think.

[Mandy V]

But y' all know we're not telling you. I've had a thing about pda, though.

[Weezy]

That is such a great. I don't think anyone's ever said it, but that's fucking it. That's when I started looking at a couple of things.

[Myelin]

Y' all like each other now. I want to fucking like you too, you know, and we do.

[Mandy V]

And so I.

[Myelin]

We've been like, hanging out at party.

[Mandy V]

Games, but it's probably only two because y' all are attractive. Like, no one wants to see ugly people make out in public.

[SK]

Damn.

[Mandy V]

Like, I don't think.

[Myelin]

I don't think. You know what I mean?

[Mandy V]

I don't think. I don't think unattractive couples get the energy where people now want to see the makeup man.

[Weezy]

You seen them ugly sex club people? Please.

[Mandy V]

I was about to say the.

[Myelin]

The underlying idea of, like, people who are open a lot of times on the Internet, the underlying, like, joke is that they're unattractive. Like, people who are in poly relationships.

[Weezy]

Like, what they do with feminists.

[Myelin]

Exactly right. They say, you're ugly, can't get a man.

[Weezy]

You.

[Myelin]

Y' all dating like that. You're open because you. Y'. All are bad looking. And I don't think that's true.

[Mandy V]

I don't think that's true either.

[Myelin]

I agree. Yeah.

[Weezy]

So for those that haven't seen your page or got to hear the love story, I'd love to know the age you met and really, like, was it truly u haul's second date where lesbians do.

[Myelin]

No.

[Weezy]

How much time did it take?

[Myelin]

No, I mean, it was quick, but it wasn't that quick.

[SK]

No, it wasn't our moment of meeting and stuff like that. We didn't get together for three years.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

Okay. Heard, right?

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you have a different story? Cause you're like. You're like, yeah, bitch, that's a hobby.

[Myelin]

Because for me, it's like, by the time we did start to get together, yeah, we started dating and, like, you know, her stuff was immediately at my place, you know, immediately you. It's a different direction, but we didn't know each other. We did try to date. We did try to, like, get for. It took a little bit longer.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

We had some separation. I came to la, she was still in Sacramento. I got a girlfriend, she had a girlfriend. We split up, decided, you know, like, got back together, whole thing before we finally decided to, like, okay, we're going to actually try to be together.

[Weezy]

For people going through a breakup, I have a few friends in my life and a few men and women that'll be like, we'll probably get back together. Did you know. Did you always feel like it was someone to run to when the breakup happened? Did you be like, she got something to say.

[Mandy V]

Y' all are. This is hilarious. If y'.

[Weezy]

All.

[Mandy V]

Y' all might have to go to the YouTube. Cause the way you are looking the way. First off, she's shaking her head no. You shaking your head. Yes, y'. All. This is hilarious.

[Weezy]

Ooh, I love a little.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God. Watching y' all is hilarious.

[Weezy]

That's hilarious.

[Myelin]

I'm gonna have to watch that.

[Weezy]

Okay. Oh, my go. But no, Like, I had her blocked.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[SK]

Like, her best friend was still doing my hair and stuff like that. But I'd be like, don't talk to me about her. Don't be like, we're separate.

[Mandy V]

Like, why do women do this? You know, there's a woman. Why the fuck do they block? Like, I had a nigga tell me, stop blocking me. You just gonna unblock me? And clearly. What made you unblock her? Because what got her.

[SK]

I didn't unblock her.

[Mandy V]

Clearly you did.

[SK]

Well, yes, I called.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, you Unblocked her to say happy Birthday.

[SK]

She was on my mind.

[Mandy V]

Heavy. And it was her birthday. Can't stand on business for sh. Give a. I was like.

[Weezy]

Which is the.

[Mandy V]

Where I look at you get what I.

[SK]

She was on my mind heavy. And it was two years later, and I was like, I'mma just do it. When something's really heavy on my heart, I'm just like, just go with it.

[Myelin]

And she was in town, so we. We. I lived in la. She lived in Sacramento city.

[Mandy V]

I. Not the. I'm in your city. Happy birthday.

[Weezy]

Toxic.

[Mandy V]

You're so toxic. I'm not gonna lie to me. Steve Jobs should actually. Well, I know he did, but Steve should. Steve in heaven. Send out a thought to women with iPhones, not give them the ability to unblock, to block anybody because they don't stand on business. Like, you unblocked this. You unblocked her to motherfucker. Say happy birthday as a. I'm in your city. Happy birthday. You was heavy on my.

[SK]

Never had another birthday without me again.

[Weezy]

And I got the ring. So I'm just playing now from the second time around, how do you act or what do you change in the second evolution of a relationship? Because do you address the old issues? Do you start over new?

[Myelin]

Oh, yeah. You do. You address them. And ours were glaring. Like, ours were big. Like, we were supposed to just be separate for a little bit of time, and then we ended up talking to other people. Right? So I think once that happened, she was like, we're not doing this. Call it. We already got 340 miles between us. You down there, I'm up here. Like, we can just call it. And she blocked me. Right? So a lot of time passed. Like you said, two years. By the time she hit me back up, I was probably in the worst part of that relationship, you know, it was over. That relationship was already over. It was almost kismet the way that she kind of was like, plug. The way that she.

[Weezy]

Oh, that's right.

[SK]

That's what it's called.

[Myelin]

But the way she called at that time, I mean, literally, I think that my girlfriend at the time was cheating on me at that day on.

[SK]

At her birthday party.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait, wait. Your girlfriend was cheating on you at your birthday party?

[SK]

I called her. She stepped away to go into the room to answer my call, and I found out she didn't say on the call.

[Myelin]

Yeah, I hadn't stepped away. I was in bed at my birthday party. Like, everybody was in my living room, the girl included. This is how. This is how Low I had to have been to have that actually in my. Right. So like, this girl I was dating had whoever else she was dealing with in my house for my birthday. Everybody was. And I had.

[Mandy V]

Wait, and you didn't know about it?

[Myelin]

I knew enough to not be stupid, but I'd play stupid, you know? Like I knew and probably could have done better, but I was like, what am I?

[Mandy V]

It was another girl or a guy girl.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Damn. Every time I get mad at. I'd be like, I'm going back.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no. Ain't either. Let's be very clear. Wait, so she brought the girl that she was cheating on you with to your house for your birthday?

[Myelin]

My house? Acting as though she came to say happy birthday. She brought you these things now?

[Mandy V]

No.

[Weezy]

Why?

[Mandy V]

Look, I can't believe that.

[Weezy]

Why did you beat her ass?

[Mandy V]

Whoop her ass?

[Myelin]

Mostly. Mostly it's like.

[Weezy]

And it's your birthday?

[Myelin]

It was my birthday.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm really there.

[Myelin]

It was a lot of reason for me to be like. Actually, I.

[Mandy V]

You just went to go get in bed.

[Myelin]

I got in bed. I guess I was. I was sad.

[Mandy V]

Did you whoop her ass the next day? Like, was there. There was no ass whooping?

[Myelin]

Oh, absolutely.

[Mandy V]

There was an ass whooping.

[Myelin]

Absolutely.

[Weezy]

No, that's what I was.

[Mandy V]

How did you.

[Weezy]

How do you whoop.

[Mandy V]

Hold on.

[SK]

Did you.

[Mandy V]

Did you want the girlfriend ass or the other person asked?

[Myelin]

No, no, never. Oh my. Only. Only the girl I was dating.

[Weezy]

Good.

[Myelin]

Yeah. No, I didn't never give a.

[Mandy V]

About to see her face. I'm not gonna lie. You should have whooped the other girl ass too. Cause she came to your house playing in your motherfucking face. No, no, no. You gotta whoop both bitches asses. Wait a second. You're not thinking that the girl who knows that we. They. She is in a relationship.

[Weezy]

I'm just saying if I have to.

[Mandy V]

Pick a. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Weezy]

If I have to pick, it's not me.

[Mandy V]

You for me. Let's even turn this into a heterosexual scenario where. Yes.

[Weezy]

Wait, you were brought into a scenario.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no, no. I'm saying let's create a heterosexual scenario. Because where. Yes, normally you should be upset at your partner and you should never be mad at the other person. Correct to me, if my partner even brings a woman to the house. Mind you, we got pictures all over the house. She knows that this is our home. If a bitch walks into my house and sleeps with my man, knowing that we are together because she see me plastered all over the motherfucking Place she getting her ass whooped too. Just because she set foot in the motherfucking door. Because, bitch, you came into my house like it's the principal, where normally, yes, I believe you should be mad at your partner, not the other party.

[Myelin]

I'm with you.

[Mandy V]

That bitch is stepping into your home.

[Myelin]

The thing is, I think I realized that the gaslighting and the lying and manipulation that I was receiving, I would be foolish to think anybody else was not also receiving. Like you have to be a dumb to believe somebody and then still follow them into the house. But you. So was I right? Like I was being dumb as too. So it's like I'm convinced that she was just a fucking liar. She was a liar. Probably telling that bitch some other shit because how comfortable could you be?

[Mandy V]

That's what I'm saying. Like you didn't know me.

[Myelin]

So you know you could have walked into anything.

[Mandy V]

You took it as you have to.

[Myelin]

Have assumed that you were safe.

[Mandy V]

So you took it as she could have said, maybe your partner, anything, I don't know. Okay, so you took it as your partner was clearly gaslighting and a liar to you, that she was doing it to her and that girl had no clue.

[Myelin]

No, that bitch said hi, brought you flowers. She was a dumbass. You know what I'm saying? She was an idiot.

[Mandy V]

Did you take the flowers? Was it a nice bouquet?

[Myelin]

No, I walked my ass. I was like, give me that bottle now.

[Weezy]

Hold on, I just got one question. Cause we gotta get back into love. When you was beating her ass, was you talking? Cause I'm finna talk. I only got two fights before I started talking to a bitch.

[Myelin]

No, no, no, that's.

[Weezy]

I was like, you got me fucked up, hoe. Tell me what you mean when you.

[Myelin]

Beating a bitch ass and talking, That's a real parental ass whooping. You remember your parents used to hit you with every. With every spanking? Don't make me. That's how you was in there, right? One word after the other. No, it wasn't like that. It was more like I was finally trying to leave. She was not letting me. It was more of that. It was like, you done all this fucking damage to my life, bitch. I'm ready to get the fuck up out of here. And she was like blocking the doorways and holding my shit back and yanking on me. I need you to be here. So I had to find.

[SK]

So it's not domestic violence as long.

[Mandy V]

As you broke up with her first.

[Weezy]

Right?

[Mandy V]

So we break up and now get out of there.

[Weezy]

Wait, you were there?

[SK]

Her home? We drove down from Sacramento, me and her best friend, to get her in the middle of the night or early morning. I forget when it was.

[Mandy V]

Wait, what?

[Weezy]

Oh, that's the best man story.

[Myelin]

We jumping around.

[Weezy]

We hella jumping around.

[SK]

But, yeah, that girl had serious mental health.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, she was just.

[Myelin]

It was very clear she had been living her life for a really long time, manipulating people, doing whatever, having them operate in a certain kind of way, and expected the same for me. And I think I was even, like, a different type of bitch that she ever really fucked with. So I think she expected me to just be a dumb idiot, too, and, like, carry on in this way, paying this rent and doing this shit and being that person.

[Mandy V]

Wait, and you was paying the bills?

[Myelin]

And she was, like, 10 years my.

[SK]

Senior, and this is when she was 23.

[Myelin]

Yeah, that bitch was, like, almost 40. Yeah. A real bitch. So y' all be talking about niggas ain't shit.

[Mandy V]

Like, they look like, oh, bitches ain't shit either.

[Myelin]

They learn it from their daddies. This ain't no fuck you. That shit trickle down.

[Weezy]

Maybe I need to close my relationship now. Let's get into a little tea time.

[Myelin]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Who won the last fight?

[Myelin]

I always win the fights. I'm the best talker.

[SK]

She talks down. I'm a very.

[Weezy]

What are generally disagreements? Because to me, whenever my friends are. In 10 years, plus, the disagreements are very. Like, we're annoyed with each other. Do you find that you've been having the same arguments for 10 years?

[SK]

Our arguments are never fights, and they are disagreements.

[Weezy]

That's.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, very mature.

[SK]

It's very emotional. Emotionally mature, for sure. We don't, like, cuss at each other or like.

[Myelin]

Yeah, even you saying, like, domestic, like, you're in a. Like, we've. I've never put my hands. We've never fought like that. And I think, like, the standard a lot of times.

[Weezy]

Yes, especially.

[Mandy V]

Well, especially queer relationships. Right. Like, the idea that, like, you're equal, so if you act too much, it ain't crazy. And it's like.

[SK]

No, we have absolutely, like, literally before a family trip, and she told me to shut the fuck up and that.

[Myelin]

I know you was mad and that she still.

[Mandy V]

Isn't that what you just shared on Patreon, that your nigga said, shut the fuck up? And you were like, excuse me?

[Weezy]

No, no, no, I wasn't. The thing that made me say, excuse me. He's never told me to shut the fuck up. He's a pretty, like, ev Keel dude. So I was screaming like crazy because he was like, I feel like you want a yes man. And I was like, oh, so what the fuck do you want?

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So he goes into the bathroom, and basically I was like, what are you doing? What are you doing in my cabinet? I'm just trying to find your pills that make you calm down.

[Mandy V]

Is that not. I said. I said, those are fighting. That's fighting. I was like, he may as well be here.

[Myelin]

That's gonna sit.

[Mandy V]

That's as bad as talking about somebody mama. I was like, he did. You should have something. I heard that on the zoom. I said, he's taking care of you, dog. Yo, for real, though. We see that you're not regulated.

[Weezy]

You know what? Because he's very.

[Mandy V]

Let's regulate.

[Weezy]

That's the worst. You screaming at someone too common. I'm like, are you playing with me?

[Myelin]

He's like, I'm.

[Weezy]

I'm actually not. I don't know what Z looks like in Pill Fight.

[Myelin]

I'm not going to.

[Weezy]

Maybe you really need, but I'll find them for you.

[Myelin]

That's crazy.

[Weezy]

I ain't going to lie. That made me laugh because I was like, really?

[Mandy V]

That might have sent me. Oh, nigga would have got kicked out.

[SK]

I just be like, let's. I'mma go roll one.

[Myelin]

I'm going go roll her. Started out, she be like, you know what?

[SK]

I think back. And I'd be like, yeah.

[Mandy V]

See, I don't like confrontation. So the problem with, like, my last relationship, if we didn't agree with anything, I would be done. And he felt like I was treating it like a podcast topic. Like, this isn't a fucking podcast. You can't just go to the next topic. Yeah, I can. Like, I. We're going in circles. We're not getting a solution. Time to go.

[Myelin]

Hell, no.

[Mandy V]

If I'm not in the mood to go back and forth.

[Weezy]

So I could table a topic, too.

[Mandy V]

Like, oh, I'm a table topic.

[Weezy]

We're not getting here with this. Let's move on.

[Mandy V]

Let's move on. He would literally be like, yes. Ain't a podcast.

[Myelin]

Yeah, but I can't move on. What are we moving on to? Watching movies? You just pissed me off.

[Weezy]

No, no.

[Mandy V]

Okay, well, you want to eat?

[Myelin]

So who gonna cook it? Not me.

[Mandy V]

But that's why sometimes we'll separate smart people in the room. Like, I, you can watch TV here.

[Myelin]

You walk out of here and you better than them.

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[Mandy V]

Because you guys been together so long you cohabitate? What is the if you are in an argument or upset with each other, do you guys not like sleep in different places that night? Like, how do y' all find?

[Myelin]

Look, we sleep separate. It's been my favorite thing to say for the last 10 years. I didn't get married to sleep separate. I don't ever sleep separate.

[Mandy V]

You never? Even when y' all are in not so great of a space, you would risk sleeping well at night to sleep next to somebody you mad at.

[Weezy]

Like I'm not gonna sleep bad when.

[Mandy V]

I can't physically sleep. I couldn't imagine if I'm upset with somebody that I gotta now sleep in the same bed.

[Weezy]

But don't you think to start thinking I need to know we're, we're still.

[Myelin]

We'Re not going to sleep.

[SK]

And I know, and I know that's debatable. Some people are just like, I need my peace. We can come Back to it and stuff, like for us. That just doesn't work for us.

[Mandy V]

Look, she said you're not going to sleep.

[Weezy]

I completely agree.

[Myelin]

Sleeping for that.

[SK]

Do you know, I told her.

[Weezy]

Cuz then I. I kind of come back. It's like, all right. This actually now it reminds me we're okay.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Why?

[Myelin]

I'm okay.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

But I did have an argument before bed where I was like, I need space. And he was about to go sleep on the couch. I said, what are you doing? He said, you just told me you need space. I need space emotionally.

[Myelin]

Well, you're here emotionally.

[Weezy]

Don't get out. Stay here then. I need space.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, no, I need. You gotta go. So I could talk about you with my friend. Like I'm gonna be on the phone probably talking about you.

[Weezy]

Oh, that's not walking.

[SK]

I can't do that.

[Weezy]

That's a dog walk.

[Myelin]

Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

[Mandy V]

I be needing my space, so.

[Weezy]

Okay, next one. Have y' all decided your hall pass together? Oh, and what celebrity is that?

[Mandy V]

You want them to other people so bad. Wait, our hall passed together?

[Myelin]

Who we would fucking.

[Mandy V]

Yes, together.

[Weezy]

Like, who we bringing in this? I feel like y' all gotta watch the movie, watch the music video, something on Instagram.

[Myelin]

They don't necessarily like the same type of women.

[Weezy]

Oh.

[Myelin]

I mean, you know who I'm after forever, who currently has been my favorite for the last few years. She about to forget. Who are you about to say you're into? Is it a femme? That's the big question.

[SK]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

Don't embarrass me out here. Okay.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

She can't like for us together.

[Weezy]

Okay, well, no, no, no.

[Mandy V]

We need to know my boo.

[Weezy]

Who?

[SK]

I just. She's so funny. Thornton. Shannon M. Thornton.

[Weezy]

The first girl that I slept with, it really was like. No, no. The first girl that I slept with that was really not down with light skinned. She got me. Like I said, I really thought they was going to be pink.

[Myelin]

And I was like, oh, I know she was happy.

[Mandy V]

I know she was happy. From P. Valley.

[SK]

Yes, fine.

[Myelin]

She fine.

[SK]

Letter I.

[Mandy V]

She fine. She looked like she had better.

[Myelin]

She fine as hell. It's like unruly.

[Weezy]

The way she looks unruly.

[Mandy V]

She's beautiful.

[Myelin]

She's like a little bit.

[Mandy V]

Who is yours?

[Myelin]

I'm obsessed with Keke. I'm obsessed with Kiki Palmer. Okay.

[Weezy]

Keke Palmer.

[SK]

My baby is obsessed.

[Weezy]

Let me tell you, I love Kiki Paul. We gonna have on podcast. She was like. So we were talking yesterday, literally and she was like, man, Keke. I was like, really? Because Keke, to me, is the girl that is like, you know, Kiki be teasing her little shit. You remember when she came on here?

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Keke like girls, but also doesn't always. Like, we never seen her with a girl really, like. But I find that a lot of lesbians talk about Keke. And it just surprises me because you would assume it would be somebody that is like, oh, I know I'm gonna get that pussy. But Keke also, she said a Hal pass. She got a tee.

[Myelin]

Ain't nobody.

[Mandy V]

So when you say a hall passing Halle Berry, you think they gonna get that bitch, too?

[Myelin]

I get no hall pass.

[Weezy]

I think both the women you said could be agreed with your mom.

[Mandy V]

I think they're. I mean, to me now, I think everyone is accessible. Honestly, like. Like, everyone, like, be sliding them DMs. You'd be surprised who responds back. Like, I think everyone's kind of accessible.

[Weezy]

I'm in there now when it comes to discussing together, because we are in a world of non monogamy and all of that shit, but we know lesbians are jealous. Is it true? Who knows? And cr. Would y' all try it? Have you tried it? What's been that part of your relationship.

[Mandy V]

Like, talking about it? Oh, my God.

[Myelin]

We should have talked about it. I tried to explain to her what kind of shit y' all be talking about on this show. She didn't know. I said, it's gonna get to where you.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God. And then y' all walked in. When we talking about that, look, I was like.

[SK]

She's like, I told you.

[Mandy V]

I said.

[Myelin]

I said, and it's gonna be in your episode.

[Mandy V]

But it wasn't. You know what's crazy? So now that the book tour is on hiatus, we decided we're just gonna get back to some more of the raunch. You know, we're a rebrand, but as long as we keep it towards the middle of the episode, let's just get into it. So. Yeah. So what has that looked like? Has it been a discussion?

[Myelin]

I'm gonna let you talk first so I don't say the wrong thing.

[Weezy]

Oh. Cause that means you wanted to suggest it.

[Myelin]

No, no, I just. I. You can't be sure what is allowed to talk about, like, genuinely talking about what we've talked about. They're talking about what, you know, I don't want to talk.

[Mandy V]

Y' all grew up with each other online, and y' all want to act like y' all can't Talk.

[Myelin]

We talk. You want me talking?

[Mandy V]

We.

[Weezy]

Is it a hard. No, there's an easy question.

[Myelin]

What was the question? Give me the question.

[Weezy]

Open relationships, non monogamy and discussing that.

[Myelin]

That's a hard question to have a hard note. Like, that's five things. I think that. Yeah, go ahead.

[SK]

I would say that E M is not a hard no, but that it is not. We've been together 12 years, married 10, and we have. We're not who we were when we got married. You know, so in those changes happening and us, you know, finding ourselves, like, if you look back, back before, this ain't who I walked down the aisle to, you know, like, it's totally different. I don't know how far back y' all went, so ain't gotta go that far. So, you know, couples therapy is great for everybody, especially long, you know, long term commitments and stuff like that. And conversations happen.

[Weezy]

You know what I'd like to add.

[Mandy V]

I love that you also said couples therapy.

[Weezy]

I feel like couples will never admit that they do that because they believe that it's almost a window into thinking something's not okay.

[Mandy V]

Not. Not even therapy. I just love that you were able to acknowledge and be so, so aware that if I'm with somebody for a decade, you're not going to be the same person. And I don't think a lot of people, a lot of people, hetero, queer, whatever, when they, when they get married. A lot of times you think you're going to be with the same person forever and you'd like to be because that's the person you chose to marry. But the reality is through experience, through life, through traveling, through job changes, a person is inevitably going to change. I'm not the same person I was 10 years ago, so to know that y' all have been together for 12. So when did. Who started changing first and what was the kind of conversation around this ain't the person I married, but let's talk about it because I see that you're changing and I want to be able to evolve with you. I love the evil laugh.

[Weezy]

Is funny.

[SK]

The transition career wise.

[Myelin]

And I was gonna say we had a lot of them.

[Weezy]

Yeah, okay.

[SK]

Personally, physically, emotionally, spirit, like everything. 2023 was the year.

[Mandy V]

Wow.

[SK]

That SK had that. And with her having it then I'm experiencing that as well. And so, you know, we're just literally like, yeah, we're still in. Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

What did that conversation look like in 2023? Like, there's a financial shift, there's a physical shift, there's an emotional shift, possibly because you're now you're dating a new person essentially when that happens.

[SK]

So much so that she doesn't go by her birth name anymore. So I remember when she first told me that she wanted to be called by SK we. She had just met like her best friend. So we were like in this, like, friend with the wives group chat and stuff. And I had said something like it was my first time using it. And I was like, well, we'll check with SK Or SK Will let us know or something. And then she text me on the.

[Weezy]

Side, like, I can't believe you called me that. Like, it just like, it was just that.

[SK]

Yeah. The beginning of that.

[Myelin]

So that's cool.

[Weezy]

Yeah. I love the things that, you know how you said you don't remember the things that made you feel like, damn, I did something for this person that I love. Yeah. I just said this person. Because once you told me name change, I'm like, I never asked for.

[Mandy V]

We. We didn't appreciate it.

[Myelin]

I would have corrected you.

[Mandy V]

I. I go by okay. You do. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

[Myelin]

You got.

[Mandy V]

Never forget the day we got checked. Yeah. No, no, I could imagine.

[Myelin]

I could imagine.

[Weezy]

Now, can I just say what?

[Mandy V]

Oh, it got checked. And then I was like, first of.

[Weezy]

All, it was the name in the pink shirt. Everybody got mad that I said that. And it was a. Yeah, it was.

[Mandy V]

It was. No, this was another guest.

[Weezy]

And then that was yours, though.

[Mandy V]

They went off and look at me.

[Myelin]

Saying it right now.

[Weezy]

Cause they.

[Mandy V]

They went off on me after the fact because it was difficult for me, like to say the. And this was. This was May. This was pre. Pre pandemic. So this was like, very new.

[SK]

This is very new.

[Mandy V]

This is the thing that you always.

[Weezy]

Learned the grace with people that are non binary that when they have it with you. Now that I have non binary people in my life, I'm like, damn, this should just be so simple. Because they know, especially our show.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Like bitch. Respectfully, they. Them bitch. You know good and damn well we are on yo team. So if there's a moment where like.

[Mandy V]

Even that I felt like I couldn't even call her bitch. Because bitches. Bitches really like feminine. Right? Like, you don't be just saying bitch to.

[Weezy]

Nah, it can't be personal.

[Mandy V]

But it's all it is.

[Myelin]

It's about personal.

[SK]

It's personal.

[Mandy V]

Like if they go by them, they. You could call them bitch. Hey, bitch.

[SK]

It'll throw you down. Even in Jerry.

[Weezy]

Girl.

[SK]

Girl.

[Myelin]

I say girl to men.

[SK]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

I'm gonna be mad at you if.

[Myelin]

I talk too much shit with a man.

[Mandy V]

I'd be like, well, I'm talking to a nigga.

[Weezy]

You don't even be.

[Mandy V]

I be catching myself doing that with my straight homies.

[Myelin]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mandy V]

Like, when we get to where we're gossiping, I be like, girl, she not a girl. He not a girl. But we do a bit shit.

[Myelin]

It's just.

[Mandy V]

Exactly.

[Myelin]

We're just communicating in such a way.

[Mandy V]

Wait a second. Alex, are you on a mic? Do you realize, like, as a man, when you kind of gossiping, like, what you doing is kind of feminine? Have you ever been like, I've called.

[Weezy]

Alex bitch on actually, just because the tea was so hot. But maybe. Maybe he's not even really feeling. I remember the call. You might not remember.

[Mandy V]

I was like, bitch, let me tell you.

[Myelin]

Da, da, da.

[Weezy]

I can only talk for two minutes. And it's like, so you're not even thinking you're being called a bitch?

[Mandy V]

As a man, do you feel feminine? Like, no, I done called a man, girl. Like, because we was chatting.

[Weezy]

You ain't.

[Myelin]

First off, you ain't gonna feel feminine unless you feel feminine. Like, ain't nothing we do gonna make you feel feminine.

[Weezy]

Be clear.

[Myelin]

But do you ever feel.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm not making you feel feminine.

[Myelin]

Never feel offended. If anything, honor. I'm like, oh, shit, yeah. Cause I'm comfortable.

[Mandy V]

Oh, you wanted.

[Weezy]

To. My Alex loves when the gay also love him. There we go.

[Mandy V]

By the way, as soon as Alex said, and then I saw the nails, I was like, oh, yeah, Never mind.

[Myelin]

Comfortable person.

[Weezy]

Hold on. Do you remember the very famous gay that saw you at Delta One and came up to me?

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So I'll tell y' all who it was later. But we all know him and we all love him. Okay, okay. He calls me. I didn't even know you have my number, bitch. He said, bitch, you been supposed to put me on. I didn't know he looked like that in person.

[Myelin]

You been.

[Weezy]

You've been supposed to put me on hold. And I'm just like, damn.

[Mandy V]

I've been trying to have you on podcast.

[Weezy]

But, like, yeah, he'll be there. He's actually straight.

[Myelin]

Been trying to work.

[Weezy]

Who's straight? I was like, alex is straight. And he's like, no, he's not.

[Myelin]

But then I love that for you, Alex.

[Weezy]

I was like, no, I know.

[Mandy V]

I was like, he doesn't want to know him.

[Weezy]

And he was like, yeah. But then we spoke. Like, he was a vibe and I was like. Like, he's just chilling, babe.

[Mandy V]

Wow. Love that. He's just friendly.

[Weezy]

So then we go to everyday people.

[Myelin]

We get a table.

[Weezy]

So I invite dude over with us.

[Mandy V]

These straight people gonna be every.

[Weezy]

He starts getting a drink. Alex is pouring him drinks. And he literally was like, girl, I'm leaving. I'm not about to play this game, man. Okay, don't play this game. He can't pour a drink. He was like, what's up, bro? You want some tequila? He said, I'm not doing this. Never came back to the table.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God.

[Myelin]

That's appropriate.

[Mandy V]

He knew about. That's appropriate.

[Myelin]

I don't want to offend this man. Let me get the out of here.

[Mandy V]

I like that. That's appropriate.

[Weezy]

I'm swelling up.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I do the same thing when girls be trying to be flirty. I literally say, girl, I eat pussy. If you don't stop. In real life, like, in real life, I do it. So, like, let's not do this. Like, if someone's even overly flirting with me. That's not. That's not into women. You need to respect. Like, stop doing that. Respect me, bro. Respect me. Cause the mixed signals makes me uncomfortable.

[SK]

Absolutely.

[Mandy V]

So if this man was getting mixed signals from Alex, I get it. I just need to remove my signals.

[Weezy]

Alex Kwar was great. Okay, well.

[Mandy V]

No, he wanted signals were. You were friendly and your nails are painted. He was confused.

[Weezy]

Okay, so we got a new segment that we're trying out with y' all called Ho Tree.

[Myelin]

Called what?

[SK]

Called what?

[Mandy V]

Ho Tree.

[Myelin]

Okay. And basically, like flow tree kind of gay.

[Weezy]

I've. That's what I was thinking.

[Mandy V]

Poetry. And Brocha is gay.

[Weezy]

I mean, what.

[Myelin]

Were they not a couple for the first 10 years?

[Mandy V]

Wait, they were. They were together? But Amanda Seals was also in the group. But Amanda. It used. It was a trio at first.

[Myelin]

Trio?

[Weezy]

No, but they remember when Amanda had to step in. Cause.

[Myelin]

And then Amanda stepped in.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

They wasn't the threesome.

[Mandy V]

And then it was a threesome.

[Myelin]

No, because the other one wasn't showing up. They split.

[Weezy]

Do you know how I know this? Once you get a close friend that lesbian. Lesbian, not bisexual, then you know all the other lesbians in the community, they be like, bitch, guess who else fucking. I'll be like, shut the fuck up. Yeah. It's like gay men. You know when they start telling you who gay.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Boom. Okay.

[Mandy V]

I will say that.

[Myelin]

That'll probably Google it.

[Mandy V]

But we should. This is alleged, y'.

[Weezy]

All.

[SK]

No fact.

[Weezy]

Fantasy. Now onto poetry. Poetry. I've basically taken these song lyrics and I'm going to read them like they are a poem. We are going to see who guesses the song.

[SK]

It's all her.

[Myelin]

Don't do this.

[Weezy]

Look, y' all playing me.

[Mandy V]

You don't know music.

[SK]

I don't know music. My wife says single.

[Weezy]

You know this song. Trust me, you know this song.

[SK]

I don't know names.

[Weezy]

I know the song. That you absolutely know.

[Myelin]

You know the song.

[Weezy]

Go.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wait, why'd you make it easy?

[Weezy]

I think that you have to hum this song or say it in the way. Okay, so maybe it is easy. I don't know.

[Myelin]

I'm so locked in.

[Weezy]

Sitting here flossing, peeping your stilo. Just once, if I have the chance. Things I would do to you, you and your body. Every single portion sends chills up and down your spine. Juice is flowing down your thigh. If you're horny, let's do it.

[Mandy V]

Ride it.

[SK]

Genuine pony.

[Weezy]

Oh, well, got to the end now.

[Mandy V]

But see, that's how long it took me.

[Weezy]

That's how long it took me.

[Mandy V]

By the way, let's be very clear. Everyone that knows me, I make up lyrics. I do not know lyrics. I say, look, bro, now, if I.

[Weezy]

Said sing here fly now it's different.

[SK]

No, I'm sitting here flossing.

[Mandy V]

I didn't even know you said that. That is not what I thought was being said. I picked the second verse first off. No, how much that matters. What does sit here flossing. Even me. Look, flossing his teeth.

[Myelin]

No, flossing. I don't know.

[Mandy V]

What is flossing like back flossing.

[SK]

That one.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. Wait, it does.

[Weezy]

Flossing is like.

[Mandy V]

Like looking good.

[Myelin]

Like, he, like, sure, he was whipping, but he. You know, it meant like, I'm sitting here looking.

[Weezy]

Yeah, you're African American. Cool.

[Mandy V]

Now, flossing is. I. I ain't never in my life said, we. I'm flossing.

[SK]

Wait, but, Mandy, that makes me ask, how old are you?

[Myelin]

I was about to say, I'm 34.

[Weezy]

Really?

[SK]

Okay, you're not too far, but.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

That's crazy.

[Weezy]

But you've heard it.

[Myelin]

No.

[Mandy V]

No one in my whole life has been like, I'm flossing.

[Myelin]

Well, nobody.

[Mandy V]

Not the teeth.

[Myelin]

Well, we don't talk.

[SK]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Weezy]

And there's just. Why? Because you don't fuck.

[Mandy V]

Is that what it is? Is this a drug dealer term?

[Weezy]

No, it's a rapper shit in the south, everybody genuine.

[Myelin]

Put it in the song.

[Mandy V]

By the way, y' all asking for A refund at the Genuine concert. Cause he's not singing enough or singing it how you want it to.

[Myelin]

That's crazy.

[Mandy V]

It's crazy because I would just be there to see.

[Weezy]

Well, they need to go get Amy.

[Myelin]

I like me some Genuine show you want.

[Mandy V]

I ain't gonna lie. The way he be gyrating. I love everything Genuine, baby. I just want to hear mg.

[Weezy]

But we gotta understand that when you go to see people that are older. So Mandy and I, we had to announce something at Essence. And we were watching Ron Isley before we got on stage. And that had to sit and then.

[Myelin]

Remember, he had to take the tire off.

[Weezy]

He took the hat off, bro. You just gotta enjoy the vibe.

[Mandy V]

Not only that, let's be very clear. The subtle flex, though, about us at Essence, where we were on the call sheet after Babyface and before Maxwell, and it was like, oh, pretty cool.

[Weezy]

You know what I said the whole weekend we're introducing Maxwell.

[Myelin]

We did it.

[Mandy V]

Oh, we weren't. We weren't.

[Weezy]

But no, no, I said, we have to open for Maxwell.

[Mandy V]

But also we were after Babyface. And I'm just like, oh my God, we've made it like we're between these two. My knees also shows our age. Cause I'm sure all the Gen Z people were like, who do I get older?

[Myelin]

Who's everybody?

[Weezy]

Max. Yeah, you're right.

[Myelin]

They don't know me. So you don't know.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no. By the way, I just shared a story. Very embarrassing. I was being introduced. I act kind of like a Gen Z. I really think I'm kind of young at heart. So All Star Weekend, I'm literally being introduced to Raphael Siddiq. And we're having a conversation and in the middle I see Drew Ski and I say, sorry, I gotta go. There are Drewski's here. And Drew Ski was the. I said, the only person I want to see all weekend and we'll take a picture with is Drew Ski. Oh, my God. My auntie Drew Ski was just on my flight coming back from Essence and I was like, I already did. I got my picture of Juicy. I left talking to Raphael Sadiq to.

[Myelin]

Go get a picture.

[Weezy]

It is really interesting to be a millennial because I am city girl. But also, I just saw Lenny Kravitz and I started tearing up. Oh, I belong to you. But then I'll tear up if I.

[Mandy V]

Got to suck his dick but not see him. I love Link and Antonio. He's absolutely bitch.

[Weezy]

I wanted to date a nigga that looked like Lenny for 10 years I.

[Mandy V]

Wanted bitches that look like Lenny.

[Weezy]

I do look good, but to me.

[Mandy V]

Like you just gotta look up the when his pants split and then it like takes it away.

[Weezy]

I don't care.

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[Weezy]

Okay, so we've been getting into like the history of sex and different types of things on decision decisions. But briefly because I really want to talk to y' all because the personal experience is more interesting. Do y' all know how sperm donation started?

[Myelin]

No.

[Mandy V]

So turkey basters?

[Weezy]

No. This music donation?

[Myelin]

No. I don't know.

[Weezy]

Started with animals first and when they realized animals were working, the first successful one.

[Myelin]

What does working mean? I'm so sorry.

[Weezy]

Like that. Oh, sorry. Animals pregnant. Okay, okay, so I'll then. Although we tend to think of artificial insemination as modern, it started in 1779. There was an Italian priest and a psychologist who performed a lab experiment where basically he was trying to Understand how plants grew. And he saw that the embryo was a part of a male seed nurtured in the soil of a female. Like that's. They're still like male and female, I guess, in plants.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah, there is. So I learned that in school.

[Weezy]

He figured if this can happen, two people don't need to be having physical contact. So he successfully inseminated frogs, fish, and dogs. Then after that happened, 11 years after his experiment in the US a doctor inseminated the wife of a husband who was a Quaker wife. And the husband was 15 years her senior, so he couldn't get her pregnant. But they couldn't figure out if it was the wife. So unbeknownst to them, the first sperm donation was non consensual.

[Myelin]

Jesus.

[Weezy]

He got the wife pregnant with the linen draper, like, putting linen inside of her and like squeezing it out, I guess, and basically use someone else's semen.

[Myelin]

Someone else's semen to see if it would work. This is probably the first time they did some like that on white folks, though. I feel a little better about it.

[Mandy V]

No, white folks definitely did that.

[Myelin]

No, but no, no, no.

[SK]

Online white. Not on black.

[Myelin]

Like when people do non consent.

[Mandy V]

Oh, you're talking about like the Tuskegee. Like Tuskegee experiments and stuff like that.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

It's like, helpful to know that it was the Quakers this time.

[Weezy]

When it became evident the woman conceived, the husband was pleased. He was never told us she got pregnant. And then his letter went on to say years later what he did.

[Myelin]

Disgusting.

[Mandy V]

Which is weird to me because I thought that once sperm hits, like, the air, it dies.

[Myelin]

No, I think it needs time.

[Mandy V]

How much time? Like, I thought like, once it.

[Weezy]

Like, I think that's a rumor we heard. But I know what you're talking about because they do say that.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

Y' all talking about age.

[Mandy V]

Like. Like, basically, like if a not on your butt. If a not on your butt. He can't just wipe up that. Like if you want it, like, you know, like if something's. You can't just white half finger in the head and become like.

[Weezy]

They say women go in the. In. In the trash can to get. Come out of a concert. It won't work. It won't work.

[Mandy V]

That's what they say. So it's not true.

[Myelin]

So it doesn't die instantly. It takes a couple minutes.

[Mandy V]

A couple minutes. So that mean if a nut on my butt, I could take it off my butt, put it in my. And get pregnant.

[Myelin]

I watched a video where this.

[Mandy V]

Oh, we telling the wrong Thing one girl has.

[Myelin]

Like, it was a movie maybe. And I. I don't know.

[Weezy]

It was a what baby?

[Myelin]

A movie instead of like a proper story. Like, it wasn't like journalism. It was like a movie.

[Mandy V]

Right. It wasn't a journey, but it was awesome.

[Myelin]

Okay. Off something factual. But the whole story was that she had jacked off her boyfriend. Like, they had laid by each other and did something and she was pregnant and he was convinced, like, she thought she was married at that point. Because she was like, I didn't ever touch it. Like, I never was near it quick enough. And like, somebody had done enough math to be like, it got on her, near her and it was alive and.

[Mandy V]

It started swimming to get up in.

[Weezy]

Her and it swam no more coming on my coochie.

[Mandy V]

Wait, girl on your coochie is there.

[Weezy]

That's the pull out.

[Mandy V]

That is not the pull out.

[Weezy]

Who said girl?

[Mandy V]

If he pulled on your coochie, of course. And your coochie's still wet, the swimmer's gonna swim in the pond.

[Myelin]

They swimming.

[SK]

Pull out. That's why I pull out, bro.

[Myelin]

That's crazy.

[Mandy V]

Pull out and come on your coochie.

[Weezy]

You could still on it, like, you know.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, but if it's wet, it's like a pond so they have something to swim in.

[SK]

Be careful.

[Weezy]

I still want you guys to buy no holes, right? I don't claim to be a sex educator.

[Mandy V]

I'm just like, that is crazy.

[Weezy]

Okay, so that's hella funny. Oh, my God. Sperm donation has been to me. Do you remember how much shit they were talking about? Ebony K. Williams really showed me, like, oh, you can't make a choice being alone. You can't be a choice with somebody. Like, you can or you can't. You can't.

[Mandy V]

Well, people just gonna have something to say about it.

[Weezy]

The way that they talked about her for being in her 40s and using a sperm donor or the best read of all time. All you know is your sperm donor chose to get pizza. Phaedra, baby, $20. So check that. So it's like, that was Kendra. I actually, like, even though that was the best thing of all time. I do. It was. But she was talking shit about Apollo. So it's like, bitch, I'm finna talk shit about the end of.

[Mandy V]

Oh, you talking about Kenya. You just called her Kendra.

[Myelin]

Phaedra, Kenya, Phaedra.

[Mandy V]

It's okay. She's not above ok, girly.

[Weezy]

She's a TLC girl, basically. Like, I think the whole thing of that really shows you. It should Be like, women want to keep it a secret because everybody's going to be like, you're going to meet somebody. Whatever, whatever. Now, in the case of you two, I'm so curious how you got to the point where you said adoption, sperm donation. Should it be someone we know? Should it be somebody that we. How did this all happen?

[Mandy V]

Did you go to a bank? Did you visit a friend?

[SK]

Our finances?

[Myelin]

I was about to say that. Shit.

[Mandy V]

For us, the easy answer is money.

[Myelin]

That's the easiest place to start.

[SK]

So that's why it was no IVF or our IVF or I've also been.

[Myelin]

An for a long time, so ain't no insurance.

[Mandy V]

Wait, and you have three kids, so did one of you carry? Did both of you carry?

[Myelin]

So at the top, when I met my Lynn, she had a son.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Myelin]

My Lin had a son too.

[Mandy V]

Okay. And then you had two after.

[Myelin]

I always had one. And then we had two. I carried first.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Myelin]

And did he have to fuck?

[Mandy V]

Like, where did the sperm come from if y' all was talking about money.

[SK]

Okay, let's. Let's start.

[Mandy V]

Let's. Okay, let's.

[Weezy]

Let's clarify this.

[Myelin]

The past two is a stretch, right?

[Weezy]

Okay, first off.

[Mandy V]

No, not like that. Not like that.

[Myelin]

That's her 1779.

[Mandy V]

Well, we was talking about.

[Weezy]

Okay, you don't need.

[Mandy V]

But a linen sheet.

[Weezy]

I just want to apologize.

[Myelin]

It was an ice bag that you need. What did you say?

[Weezy]

The cheesecloth? Yes.

[Mandy V]

You know, I just feel like some interviewers aren't.

[Weezy]

We don't know how to. The filter that you filtered is sieve.

[Mandy V]

It through like the linen cloth. I just know we also talked about non monogamy, but if it's done for science and done for a purpose, maybe it's not considered cheating.

[Myelin]

Yeah, no.

[Mandy V]

You know what I mean? Like, what were the.

[Myelin]

I like. I don't like. I don't know.

[Weezy]

You know what, though? I would feel like if this was my wife and I knew they had to do that to get pregnant, it would then make me feel like it wasn't ours. Like I wouldn't feel like there's this connection because you just got to do this thing and bring life with somebody else. Like, I would want to be a.

[SK]

Part of the party if they had it, but you are conceived having sex.

[Mandy V]

You beat the person.

[Weezy]

I'm not joking because, I mean, I hear when I was watching the L.

[Myelin]

Word when I was younger, that's the episode that everybody. When Tina and what's the name went to the club, found that boy, brought him Home.

[Weezy]

But they were gonna have a threesome, though.

[Myelin]

She was faking, like, a threesome. And he realized when he kept trying to put a condom on and they kept being like, no. He was like, y' all trying to get more of my sprouts.

[Weezy]

But on the first episode, it wasn't like that. They were, like, using turkey baster. They were making love. So to me, that is how I would want to do it.

[Myelin]

But it was really interesting that you say that, because in that episode where they do choose to have a threesome, they are doing it together. They are very much locked into what they're. It's not even about him at all. He doesn't even know.

[Mandy V]

They just want his. Yeah. Yeah.

[Myelin]

It was still very about them.

[SK]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

But if I'm not there, I'm gonna feel like.

[Mandy V]

So how did. How did both of your. How were. Were your experiences different with the assembly? Like, can we know Yalls story?

[Myelin]

No, we have. Yes. We have a known donor.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Myelin]

When we found a known donor, we made it. And he's very open. He was very honest with us. He's like, whatever you guys want to do. We put in a contract. We. We figured it out.

[SK]

He's three page agreement.

[Myelin]

A closer person.

[SK]

Thank you.

[Myelin]

That. So we were able to just have a conversation. He was like, do you want me to be involved? Do you not want me to be involved? Do you want me to be private? Do you want me to be public? Do you want. Like, he was very.

[Mandy V]

Did he ask for a check at all?

[SK]

And when we say involved, we mean in the child's life.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[SK]

Not involved. Walk us through that. Like, it's no sex over here.

[Myelin]

No, no.

[Weezy]

So it's.

[SK]

That was.

[Mandy V]

So you were. The contract was specifically around using his sperm to create life. And then the conversation called the donor agreement. Donor, Donor agreement. And the. The conversations around that was how present he can be if you wanted to be what you wanted as well with.

[SK]

The relationship and all of that.

[Myelin]

Right.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So were you learning those answers with him when you guys spoke for the first time? Did you already discuss, like, what you wanted before talking to him?

[Myelin]

A little bit.

[Weezy]

Okay, absolutely.

[SK]

Because we had tried for. We'd been trying already for years before. Yeah. Two years before finally reaching out to him. And as you just jumped straight, said, did y'.

[Weezy]

All.

[SK]

So did a couple of other men that we had.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Myelin]

So people.

[SK]

Friends. They were like. And, like, had only said yes because he thought he was about to me.

[Weezy]

Oh, shut up.

[SK]

So don't talk to him no more. No. And I was just like how you wanted it to be. And then the other friend told me, like, you know, I love you, but a child needs a father in his life. So time.

[Myelin]

You've been homophobic.

[Weezy]

Get out of here. So.

[Myelin]

So like, you have all these.

[Mandy V]

Well, yeah, because even that process, you don't want to procreate with someone because then clearly they don't. They don't respect this union.

[SK]

No, yeah, exactly, exactly. So I was all like, wow, we got to see. Really?

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Shift to SK because of these experiences you had. Did you give up at any point?

[SK]

No, it was always for her. You just assumed it was me.

[Myelin]

And I was just like, it was always me.

[Weezy]

It was always, always going, now let's talk about. Let's break that down a little bit. Pregnant you get the. Because we could see. We know what we're seeing in this dynamic. We're seeing someone wear mask presenting when choosing to carry. Did you feel those stares?

[Myelin]

2023.

[SK]

She was not mask presenting them.

[Myelin]

I wore a wig baby. When I had this baby, I had nails on heels. Real femme. So I was just saying, like, when we met, I wore a wedding dress. We're very much different.

[Mandy V]

How old are the children now?

[Myelin]

5 and 3.

[Mandy V]

Is there a conversation? Because of course you go to schools and there's these whole dynamics about mommy, daddy, you know what I mean? Is there a conversation at all about who the father is or is he able to be introduced? What was the.

[Weezy]

With your children? I think she said, but with your children. Yeah, basically. I think the question to roundabout is really like, where do your children think they've come from?

[Mandy V]

Because yeah, that's taught in schools and I'm sure you know what I mean.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Myelin]

Our kids haven't necessarily gotten to an age.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Myelin]

Like they. They came from my stomach.

[Mandy V]

That's all they know.

[Myelin]

They can. They know photos they can see.

[SK]

Our 5 year old who is on the spectrum is very logical. It's very. Okay. He's like, my skin matches mama's skin. I was in her belly.

[Myelin]

Yep.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[SK]

Was y' all match skins. You were in her belly now.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Mama and mommy.

[SK]

Yes.

[Weezy]

I have another like, lesbian couple that I know that are conceiving right now. And I'm like, I got drunk with one of them. I'm like, who finna be mama? Yeah. She's like this. You've been waiting ass at all. I don't do.

[Mandy V]

I feel like Teresa, you said it's mama and mommy.

[Weezy]

Most that I've met.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

With dads, I think it's Daddy and.

[Mandy V]

Dad, have you had the conversation? When they get older, around. I mean, clearly, again, in sex ed, they're gonna learn that the sperm has to swim.

[Myelin]

Oh, we. And that's the thing. Lennox is our eldest.

[Weezy]

Is his.

[Myelin]

Like she said, on the spectrum. His superpower is fucking logic.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

You can't read everything, so he's already questioned.

[Myelin]

I can't give you a. When you get older, he'll be like, what year? When? When Should I ask again? He don't play that shit. He's like, I want to know and I need to know with logic. And if it doesn't make sense, he'll ask a follow.

[Mandy V]

Now, there's a conversation often around adopted children. Right. Just wanting to meet biological parents, and.

[Weezy]

You both talk about adopting. Who did you adopt?

[Mandy V]

It says someone's adopting. Okay, no, but.

[SK]

Oh, we have to adopt. Adopt our own kids due to laws and stuff like that.

[Mandy V]

Wait, what?

[Myelin]

Yeah, so the baby that I carried, I am on the birth certificate. She's also on the birth certificate. But it doesn't mean enough. Right? There's not enough laws that protect things.

[Weezy]

Hold on, wait, wait, you're both on the birth certificate and there's not enough.

[SK]

That's not enough. That's not. Absolutely not.

[Mandy V]

Because y' all are two women.

[SK]

Yeah. That don't acknowledge that.

[Myelin]

Yeah, they could just. If we went somewhere else, they could be like two. That doesn't count.

[Weezy]

So who would die, Pops, Who's.

[SK]

I have Lennox. Who she carried and she has to adopt. Maddox.

[Weezy]

Get the out of here. Yeah, so we could be gay, but we can't be gay.

[SK]

Parent adoption.

[Myelin]

They just gonna make us pet.

[SK]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

Period.

[Myelin]

Quick.

[Mandy V]

So. So then who talked? So did the guy have to give up his rights? Like, did he have to be involved.

[Myelin]

In the donor agreement? We kind of already have that.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[SK]

The paperwork. Because I did start the process two years when we got pregnant with Maddox, and so I started. It got kicked back to me. So that's why I'm like, I still need to do it, because they would, like, run me through everything. It was horrible. But we had to go get it. What's it called? Notarized. And so we agreed on this donor agreement. I put, like, five different ones that I pulled online and just, like, customized. Yeah. And then, you know, we agreed on our things, and then he signed. We got it notarized. And then that had to be sent in with all of the second parent adoption paperwork because they. Of course, all the paperwork says who's the father of the child that says that you know, that's.

[Weezy]

I mean, horrible. I will say this, though, something I think about being just helpful. Like, you remember when like, super, super liberals, which I thought I was until people were like, oh, the child doesn't have a sex when born. And like, also there's a show called Poly Family where they are in a quad. And the woman didn't know who was carrying her baby.

[Mandy V]

I don't know.

[Weezy]

I've been.

[Myelin]

The woman didn't know who her father.

[Weezy]

She has her husband and her boyfriend. They're all a couple. And so one of the questions raised was like, but what about hereditary? What about, like, blood type? Like, don't you want to look this up? And she's like, no, it's gonna really cause a rift in our relationship. And I was like, I ain't gonna hold you. But as someone that doesn't think y'.

[Mandy V]

All really, why would that cause a rift? Because we're talking about health.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Like, because the husband is basically like, if it's her boyfriend's baby and not mine, am I gonna have a hard time. I'm gonna have a hard time raising this kid. So they have two children that they don't know the father of. And that was one of the first times where I was like, am I becoming a Republican? Because, nigga, this too far. You gotta say, at some point, my ego is less important than my kids health.

[Myelin]

Sure.

[SK]

Absolutely.

[Weezy]

And it really started to get strange for me to watch it because Where I started to watch this show because I loved it. I was like, this could be me. I was like, dog, y' all too far. Like, this is crazy. This is crazy. So the dude got the kids blood tested. The blood type was O. And then one of the fathers freaked out. He's like, but now we know whose baby it is and got so upset.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Ignorance is bliss. Some people.

[Weezy]

Crazy thing.

[Myelin]

Most straight men in that situation would want to know them, would love to be. Right. A lot of people have a hard time.

[Weezy]

She was. Have they. Basically, they swapped nights. Think of sister wives, but with a couple. Yeah. So each person swapped knife. So she didn't know.

[Mandy V]

Have you. And I'm not sure what was in the agreement, but I'm curious. What if when your sons get older, they want to meet their father? Is that a. They can't be their donor. Their donor. Their donor. Their donor. I'm sorry, Their donor. Is that. Is that. That's.

[Myelin]

That's part of it.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. That's possible. Okay.

[Weezy]

I would love to know. Using that language, my friends that are pregnant Right now say father instead of donor. Do you believe that's a personal preference? Got it. Shit.

[Mandy V]

My friends with baby daddy call them donors, right? Like. Like, they called it. Like. I referred to, I think my dad in the book as like the woman.

[Weezy]

I've heard a lot of people call it.

[Mandy V]

That's the nigga my mama chose to have a baby with. Like, it's. I've removed the word father. A lot of my friends, especially who are single parents, they refer to it ain't baby daddy. They call them donors because, like. And again, there's so many different arrangements that could happen. But to me, that's how disconnected they are to how that person is showing up in the life for their child.

[Weezy]

How has it been when he's around? Fine.

[Myelin]

I mean, we love him. That's what I'm saying. It's not.

[Mandy V]

It's a friend. It's someone that you know. Yeah.

[Myelin]

It's not an estranged person. I think in the case of, like, your friends having somebody that their kids can call father, we have friends too who have children and they also let their children, or they all refer to the donor. It's an agreement.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

I love that.

[Myelin]

And they may see that guy once a month, so. So it's still an arrangement that works for them.

[Weezy]

It's not a battle.

[Myelin]

It is. You are this father figure and we're gonna use that. We don't necessarily need to do that.

[Weezy]

I was not asking before we started that. This was so interesting to me because a few years ago, Vinnie and I have talked about this a lot. And one of the things that Vinnie and I talked about were like. He's like, I really feel like you're gonna get emotional. And like, not like, I want Vinnie, but, like, you're a family, girl. You want, like, will our friendship go away because we did this thing? He doesn't want have a baby? Yes. Because, you know, I'm like, you're the child of your father. I mean, the father of your child. Are we friends anymore? Will you start to look at me differently? Do the expectations of me change?

[SK]

Sorry, we're talking about before this relationship. You with a friend, co parenting. Yes.

[Weezy]

Yes. So we've discussed it and we're really, really close. We've been friends. And he was like, I don't know, girl. I just feel like you gonna start.

[SK]

Changing because he just wanted to donate and not be in the child's life.

[Myelin]

Do you think that you would want your child to have a father in that. In that capacity? Do you feel like you want to have a partnered.

[Weezy]

I can't even answer your question now. That's how I think. I think he felt that and he's probably like, damn, you would probably want me around. You'd probably want this connection.

[Myelin]

He said you could take this sperm.

[SK]

Baby in our donor agreement, it's like you are not the father.

[Mandy V]

I want to ask a very we.

[SK]

Don'T require any of the Can I.

[Mandy V]

Ask an ignorant question?

[Myelin]

Nervous?

[Mandy V]

I do.

[Weezy]

You already asked today. I was actually My next question was really like so how'd you get pregnant?

[Mandy V]

Oh, well, no, that ain't. I'm going a little more ignorant with a syringe babe.

[Weezy]

Not together at home. Or it was.

[SK]

He would donate and then call me.

[Myelin]

Like we're on the way. I'm ovulating. He'd be like, all right, I'm putting this cup and I'll go for a run.

[SK]

And then we go inside apartment.

[Myelin]

We'd go into the apartment, be a little ramekin sitting on the on the dresser. You know everyone's tell you it helps you know, once everyone's like and then put something in there and call it.

[SK]

Even though once we did go to the fertility clinic when the doctor said.

[Myelin]

That wasn't real, she said do you.

[SK]

Know how many women get pregnant and don't have an orgasm? That ain't got nothing to do with.

[Myelin]

Requirement y' all mamas would never have baby.

[Mandy V]

I'm yeah. You know what this is, right?

[SK]

Yes.

[Weezy]

All these things. You do not.

[SK]

Okay.

[Weezy]

But yes, I know it Mrs. Yeah, go ahead, Ignorant.

[Myelin]

We're ready.

[Mandy V]

Damn. Just a little bit. Just a little bit.

[Weezy]

Come on, Glass.

[Mandy V]

Okay, maybe my mind went a little ignorant too, but I feel like someone else's mind went to it too. Maybe our male listeners. You have listeners? You have.

[Myelin]

I don't know accommodate these male listeners.

[Mandy V]

I know not. I'm trying to accommodate the male listeners. But there is a narrative that boys need a father figure. Boys need to be raised by men. Boys need to know. I know it's only laughable because like.

[Myelin]

How many boys are raised by women across the globe.

[Mandy V]

Moms, who raised you?

[Weezy]

Jay Z. Mama was gone.

[Myelin]

Mama raised you.

[SK]

And they be the one saying that.

[Weezy]

Proclaiming they need the this is because.

[Myelin]

I didn't have it and I would have been better if I had it.

[Mandy V]

No.

[Myelin]

Maybe all possibly all possible. But did you not make it like you you're still a fully established person. You still are well rounded had your mother but maybe had some ability to put you like have male figures in your life that Maybe you still would.

[Weezy]

Have been full curious. Like three of y'. All. Were you in.

[Myelin]

A lot of men in here?

[Weezy]

Two parent households. How many of y' all the men in the room?

[Myelin]

My parents. There we go.

[Weezy]

Your parents.

[Myelin]

You still good with your dad? Every you really impactful in your life. Amazing.

[Weezy]

Two of them in the room.

[Myelin]

And that's two out of three.

[Mandy V]

Two out of three talking to you.

[Myelin]

I started off with single mom, and then eventually she got married.

[Mandy V]

She got okay.

[SK]

Oh, okay.

[Myelin]

But both single. You got the best of both world. There you go. Like I did both. And now you got with your mom, you. Yeah, I stayed with my mom. And then you had both in the house. Amazing.

[Weezy]

How old were you when your parents got divorced, Alex?

[Myelin]

12.

[Weezy]

Oh, that's pretty okay.

[Mandy V]

Did you feel like that there were only because too like we've seen a lot of celebrities. I think Nelly just said it like that. He doesn't even feel like he needs to be around the baby until a certain age to teach a man. Yeah, literally.

[Myelin]

He said that when that baby need to be talked about, like he doesn't need to engage while it's crying, feeding, changing. None of that.

[Weezy]

That's why I saw the comments say.

[Myelin]

And women give men like that. It's crazy.

[Weezy]

You know, my man told me my man said his own voice be saying like, oh, I got to babysit the kids tonight. And he's like. I remember he got off the phone. This actually made me like babysit your own. It was early on in our relationship. He was like, the Is this nigga talking about he got to babysit his own son?

[SK]

Like sound stupid.

[Myelin]

That's the standard a lot of times. Like, let's be real. We hear those kinds of conversations all the time. Men babysitting their children.

[Weezy]

Okay, what the are you talking about?

[SK]

I don't know to answer. She got two brothers. I got two brothers. They have a godfather and they're like, they got grandfather.

[Myelin]

Her son got a daddy and I.

[SK]

Co parent the oldest.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, he got a daddy.

[SK]

I co parent. And they got their 17. 17.

[Weezy]

So as a 17 year old when you have these con.

[Mandy V]

Well, well, that's an adult.

[SK]

That's an adult.

[Mandy V]

You don't even look like you would have no 17 year old. Big God damn.

[Weezy]

How were the conversations like with him since he was older? When you and SK decided to, you know, get pregnant, did you feel like.

[Myelin]

You needed I was pregnant?

[Mandy V]

Cause maybe was he just excited to have sibling?

[Myelin]

I think the one thing I remember him I took him to lunch when he was however old he is.

[Mandy V]

You're right.

[Myelin]

You told him.

[SK]

You took him out and told him.

[Myelin]

And I was like, I took him to his favorite place. We was eating buffet, you know, filling him up.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Your mom is gay.

[Myelin]

I was like, I got a baby in my stomach. And he just was like, what? And then he was like shocked a little bit. And then he started to cry and I. And.

[SK]

And my little cancer baby.

[Myelin]

His cancer?

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

And then. And then he was like, you know, like an only child. Immediately selfish.

[Mandy V]

How old is the child?

[Myelin]

I can't play with these kids.

[Weezy]

They're going to be this age.

[SK]

Why didn't you have a baby? When I can I count 12.

[Myelin]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Wow, that's so beautiful.

[SK]

11 years.

[Weezy]

12.

[SK]

Yeah. And then the conversation of like telling him that I had a girlfriend. Right. Because he did have both his parents. And then we separated when he was young. Like two was when he was five in kindergarten was when I had the conversation and told him, like, mommy has a girlfriend. So there was like that whole thing too, that I really had to navigate, like on my own with her. But like, both of our families were against it, you know, and stuff like that. And even at the time, like, both.

[Weezy]

Of your families were against you telling your son or y' all being gay.

[SK]

Father, everything, family and my family were against me being with a woman.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wow.

[SK]

Right. It was like if you have like a little girlfriend or whatever. But they were still trying to make me marry him. Like, they were still trying to like.

[Weezy]

Not keep her on the side.

[Mandy V]

What?

[SK]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

The audacity. The audacity.

[SK]

Religious, religion, Christian families. I had him at in a Christian school at the time, so that was really hard to navigate.

[Weezy]

Isn't it interesting how older parents. So. So my mom has always been accepting of my sexuality, which I talk about in the book, which was amazing. But there were so many things she said when I had a girlfriend that she didn't even realize were male centered, didn't care, loved her down. So who y' all gonna date to get this baby?

[Mandy V]

Right?

[Myelin]

Like, they don't even. They can't same. My mother is same way. Like, well, I just. I was having such a hard time with you being gay. Cause I always wanted grandkids.

[Mandy V]

Like, my mom really was like, you really separate.

[Myelin]

Like, once you're with a woman, they like, like what?

[Mandy V]

So she knew so much.

[Myelin]

They don't even.

[Weezy]

I can hear the ice clinking, you know, you cocktails downstairs. So I mean, you know, because she's always working, talking about me, so I feel like Wouldn't it be great if we could just. Because we were in different cities, you guys are in the same city, and we just. Who are we thinking about trying to.

[Myelin]

Find you a partner?

[Mandy V]

Coffee table.

[Weezy]

Yeah. And my mom just really didn't. My mom really believed. And truth be told, in her own way, in that moment, that was supportive.

[Myelin]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Cause she don't know how to talk about this shit.

[Myelin]

She don't know how to. She's finding her way.

[Weezy]

Who's this gonna be? Yeah, but y' all can raise the.

[Myelin]

Baby if you want.

[Weezy]

If you need a man. Oh, yeah. Y' all leave the baby here. And then just cold.

[Myelin]

Cold.

[Weezy]

So when we started having sex with a dude together and being in a thruffle, my mom was like, oh, great, this is perfect.

[Myelin]

This is the alignment.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And then she literally said to me, this takes a lot of weight off you.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

[Weezy]

Cause you were gonna have to pay for that goddamn baby to get me.

[Mandy V]

I'm surprised. My mom literally is a grandma by my lesbian sister. And so my sister, currently co parents or not, she's gay. Lesbian.

[Myelin]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

And they raised this baby. And it's funny because her partner's parents. Family has the issue that they're together. But also, I think on another level, her partner's white. And so I think her family also has a problem.

[Weezy]

Y' all doing the same.

[Mandy V]

The same thing.

[Weezy]

Did you see that?

[Mandy V]

So it's crazy. It's crazy how sometimes.

[Myelin]

I was exhausted.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. Oh, she's exhausted. But the family, it's interesting because I feel like she had. They have more of a problem with the fact that my sister and the baby are black.

[Myelin]

Yeah, that's okay.

[Mandy V]

And the fact that they daughter gay. I thought she was gonna be able to. And it's crazy because me and my other sister, we be taking dick and we don't want K. Like, we be like, bob, that might be your only one, hon. You might be a grandma only with your lesbian daughter. And we're like, what are the odds? What are the.

[Weezy]

Me and my boyfriend played this game recently. So we've had a conversation like, hey, gay kid, what are we gonna do? How are we to raise the. So how are we going to do this? How are we going to, like, make sure we're great parents? He was like, man, what if they like white women? What the fuck we going to do?

[Myelin]

Like, you can do a lot to support your children in being gay, but, like, the harm you bring yourself letting that bring white.

[Mandy V]

They come with family. They married. I'M not going to lie. I have a home. I have a home girl right now that literally now engaged. That's not a small thing. No. She literally engaged to a white woman. And the fear of like, okay, well, they know I'm dating a girl. She's now public with this white woman. And she's like, that's the problem.

[Myelin]

That's hard. I can imagine.

[Mandy V]

I remember having a homeboy. And this is another thing. Even in queerness and stuff, it was like there was a part where he started dating trans women.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

And he was like. He already knew. He was like. Like, they won't even let me bring a white woman home. I already know. This is good. Like, the way that there's literally. There's the interracial part of things and the queerness level of.

[Weezy]

Do you remember when my Brandon told us he don't white men? So my friend Brandon, we've had him on the show Be Rich. Brandon told me and Alex, we were drunk at Soho House, and there was a really attractive guy that walked by, and he goes, I don't know what made you think. And he's in his 40s, said, Never. I never. And I was like, okay.

[SK]

Been with a white person.

[Weezy]

Being with a white person.

[Mandy V]

I've never been with a white person either in my life.

[Weezy]

I would be so, like, not even ashamed, but, like, the fact that someone.

[Myelin]

You better think I'm gay before you.

[Weezy]

Think I fuck with a white man.

[Mandy V]

Like, yeah, I've never been with a white person either. It's weird. Well, I'm lying. This guy did make me, like, eat this white girl's pussy. But it was fun. So that was not made you. Not made me. She was fun. He wanted a threesome. What kind of white girl? She was a fun white.

[Weezy]

No, no, no.

[Myelin]

Like, was she brunette?

[Weezy]

Yes, that's what I meant.

[Myelin]

I know what you meant. I'm with you.

[Mandy V]

I think Dirty blonde.

[Myelin]

Oh.

[Weezy]

Shout out to all the white.

[SK]

Internationally white.

[Mandy V]

No, she wasn't even international. We can't get a white. I ain't gonna hold you. I think. I think this. I think this white girl was from Boston. So white boy. Oh, my God. No, look, let me tell y', all.

[SK]

I be feeling so bad for my mom because her kids, her daughter ended up queer, and then her son got with a white woman. And I'm just so grateful. Anna, I love you. She British somewhere French something.

[Mandy V]

She culture. She got.

[SK]

Look, she not American white. That's all that fucking matters. I'll tell you that.

[Mandy V]

I just.

[Weezy]

It's a little better.

[Myelin]

The heritage of white America is.

[Weezy]

Joe baby.

[Mandy V]

You know what's funny about this? My ex was British and I used to have to say my ex was British and I had to be like, but he's black.

[Myelin]

You have to start it.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, he's a Brit, but he's. He's black.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

Biracial, but black.

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[Mandy V]

Go around and say something nice about a white person. No, no.

[Weezy]

Have you ever been with white woman? Will we. I'll start.

[Myelin]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait.

[Myelin]

Let me go.

[Weezy]

Why are we Angelina Jolie?

[Mandy V]

What white woman would we.

[Weezy]

Oh, that's for all my life. What? Scarlett Johansson got it for me. No, I just watched Crazy stupid Love the other day and I was like.

[Myelin]

I know who I got. But it's only because she's always on the top of. And her body is actually TE.

[SK]

And I want 90s Angelina Jolie and.

[Myelin]

I want the 90s edition, too. But honestly, in its ripe age, you know who. Look it. I'm giving too much to a white woman already. First off, let me just.

[Weezy]

That's too much.

[Mandy V]

We were rolling the red carpet out for this one. You leave. Trying to justify.

[Myelin]

I'm trying to justify.

[SK]

Cause y' all making us answer this.

[Mandy V]

She said, this is ridiculous. I had to answer on this.

[Myelin]

Why I would do Sandra is because she's a bad.

[SK]

I feel you, baby. I feel you.

[Myelin]

We just don't pay attention to her.

[Weezy]

I wasn't ready for that.

[Myelin]

She went undergrad a lot of years.

[SK]

Watch Miss Congeniality.

[Myelin]

Watch her walk out that way.

[Weezy]

I'm with you on this one. Yeah. Miss Congeniality.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

Is she looking at this? It's like, I've never seen a white girl look like that.

[Weezy]

Also, there's very. There's a lot of naturalness.

[Myelin]

100%. She doesn't look extra. She's not caked out.

[Mandy V]

Let me make sure this ain't young before I say her name.

[Myelin]

Who you about to say?

[Mandy V]

Renee Zack.

[Myelin]

Renee Zach.

[Mandy V]

She a new vision. Who you?

[Weezy]

Yes. I was close.

[Mandy V]

She's 26. I'll take it. Oh, no. She.

[Myelin]

She bad to me.

[Mandy V]

If you make it white. I want white. White. Look at that. She looks like a Barbie doll. And she be Margo Robbie.

[Weezy]

If we gonna talk about Barbie.

[Mandy V]

Margot Robbie, too. But Sabrina. You don't like Sabrina Carpenter?

[Myelin]

Margot Robbie? No.

[Weezy]

She does look like a Wall Street Margot Robbie.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah.

[Weezy]

No, Bart.

[Myelin]

Barbie is mar.

[Weezy]

When she was pregnant, too. She was looking good.

[Mandy V]

If I had to.

[Weezy]

The Barbie movie.

[Myelin]

Barbie movie. The person who played Barbie got you.

[SK]

I thought I was saying the.

[Myelin]

No, I was saying, alex, who's yours?

[Mandy V]

We know.

[Weezy]

You got it ready. You got it ready. She like white women, Alex.

[Myelin]

I would go either Scarlet or. Who's the girl now with the big ass breath?

[Weezy]

Oh, Sydney Sweeney.

[Myelin]

Yeah, yeah, Probably. Wait, no. She just gave us hell, didn't she?

[Weezy]

With the jeans?

[Mandy V]

Yeah. Fuck that. What she do? Fuck that.

[Weezy]

What she do? My jeans. So she did this.

[Myelin]

They did a whole American ad.

[Weezy]

She was like. Some people's jeans are, like, transferred.

[Myelin]

They were trying to make it seem like it was jeans, but they were talking about G, E N E S. We know.

[Weezy]

And then she goes, my jeans are blue.

[Myelin]

Jeans are passed down.

[Mandy V]

Wait a second. It's like a white, blonde hair, blue.

[Myelin]

Eye bitch in front of the American flag. She ain't come up with the creative.

[Mandy V]

He was sexual, like, no, no, no, no. It's talking about the standard. The standard. The European standard of beauty, right?

[Myelin]

It was coated. It was very coded.

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy? I think everyone has a little problematic for. Everyone has a price. I think there's people that would be problematic for the right dollar amount. Like, for me, to me, I didn't.

[Weezy]

Think it was problematic. So we got to dig into. Like, to me, it was because you're talking about jeans. Then you're insinuating Levi just.

[Myelin]

Levi's just put out a. A Beyonce ad that says Beyonce has better jeans. Trying to like, oh, I did see that.

[Mandy V]

I did see that. I did see that. For the Levi's. For the Levi's head. That was cute. I do think that there's a price, though, that people, especially white women, Women, like, they don't have morals because, like, to me, it doesn't. Gwyneth Paltrow doing an astronomer ad after her ex husband. It was money that made her do.

[Weezy]

And it's just like, it was genius.

[Myelin]

She called her husband or her ex.

[Mandy V]

Her ex husband said, this is for.

[Myelin]

The both of you.

[Mandy V]

I'm be honest. Wait, you didn't see this, bro. You didn't see this.

[Weezy]

So, you know when the CEO cheated.

[Mandy V]

That'S the ex husband of Gwyneth Paltrow, the star, and they didn't use it. They didn't use Gwyneth Paltrow.

[Weezy]

So basically she goes, hey, I know a lot of you are looking up the company. What is it about? And then Q and A, like, what's up?

[Myelin]

It's great.

[Mandy V]

It was great. It was great. But I'm like, oh, I don't.

[Weezy]

I don't actually think that's for the money.

[Mandy V]

You don't think it's for the money?

[Myelin]

I think she definitely. Nah. She said, nah, babe, I'm gonna do this thing. It's gonna go in Apple's joint savings.

[Weezy]

That is just funny.

[Mandy V]

We're gonna name their children Apple. You know, it's the. By the way, not the best.

[Weezy]

That's her name.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wait, that's for real. I fucking hate sex. I fucking hate that.

[Weezy]

Hold on.

[Mandy V]

How the fuck are you naming your child Alex?

[Weezy]

I was on Trisha Paytas podcast, but we talk about Trisha Paytas baby names. Alex, look them up right now.

[Myelin]

Who's Trisha Payton?

[Weezy]

I will tell you, the latest baby is Aquaman.

[Mandy V]

White people have the nerve to talk about black names, and they're naming their.

[Weezy]

Child Apple, tell me the other one. Malibu Barbie.

[Myelin]

Like, these are their children's names.

[Mandy V]

Like, their real name.

[SK]

Read a real bit.

[Myelin]

Who is this person? Person.

[Weezy]

Stop. She's a podcaster.

[Myelin]

Malibu Barbie.

[Mandy V]

Wow.

[Weezy]

Malibu Barbie. What? I don't know, but I was like, oh, the name Barbie. Yeah.

[Myelin]

Aquaman. Barbie is the old school name. Elvis Patas. Aquaman is that baby's first name.

[Weezy]

Elvis, Aquaman and Malibu Barbie.

[Myelin]

And Malibu Barbie is the name, the whole thing.

[Weezy]

When you are rich and right, you can name your baby xlr Cable, like Elon Musk. Or you go, that's funny, that the people. But. And also real shit. Talking to the mic, it makes me think, what hotel am I going to do?

[Myelin]

Appropriate.

[Mandy V]

No, no, no. To me, white people. Celebrities are only able to do that because they truly believe in nepotism. And so they don't feel like their children are ever going to really have to work.

[Myelin]

They never have to be in.

[Mandy V]

Because I ain't going to hold you. I've had. I mean, clearly, I have to hire people. People. If I got a resume and the name said Aquaman. The way y' all be judging black names out here, HR Period. I'm not hiring someone named Aquaman. I'm not even calling, yo. Yeah, you serious?

[Myelin]

I'm gonna try to figure out why you didn't give us a better name.

[Mandy V]

Because to me, I think Malibu ain't a bad name. Actually, Malibu's not bad. Well, if I see Barbie, if you go by your full name, I'm not hiring.

[Weezy]

Elvis actually isn't bad, But Aquaman is not nuts.

[Myelin]

Uncle Man's insane. That baby's gonna go by Moses for real. And Moses is too old for that.

[Weezy]

And a white baby named Moses, but apparently she's into, like, water, which I.

[Mandy V]

Don'T give a what you're into. Why the are you doing that to your child? To me, that should be a form of child abuse.

[Weezy]

You know how I know Brianda loves Trisha Vus? I saw this. She was telling me about it. She was like, she's so different. No.

[Mandy V]

And see, I think that that's why I would judge you. Like, if your name is Aquaman, I'm com. I'm convinced that there's some turbulence in your childhood. And you might come to me emotionally unstable. Well, you don't have time.

[Myelin]

Turbulence. That's why you coming to me.

[Mandy V]

Unstable.

[Weezy]

Y'. All.

[Myelin]

Mama, you ain't ever ready to do this.

[Mandy V]

But by the way, my name is Amanda. Very simple, right?

[Weezy]

I grew up. Look up Nara Smith's kid's.

[Myelin]

Name.

[Mandy V]

I grew up getting teeth a man.

[Weezy]

Duh.

[Mandy V]

So I can only imagine.

[Weezy]

What do you think I got?

[Myelin]

Wait a minute.

[Weezy]

Gila Monster.

[SK]

Absolutely, bro.

[Mandy V]

That is literally millennial. That is typical.

[Myelin]

I would have known enough. Amanda's baby.

[Weezy]

Duh.

[Mandy V]

So dumb.

[SK]

Everybody I love when I get anything. A first on her.

[Mandy V]

That was a whole.

[Weezy]

What was Yalls almost baby names. Oh, yeah, for your kids. What did you not go with?

[SK]

So, wait, why did I just come across that list? The note. I was looking at Maddox's signs, his birth chart, and you saw that list.

[Myelin]

Maddox was harder, too, because we. We named him two days after that.

[SK]

Day three was when I named my baby.

[Mandy V]

Y' all came up three days later.

[SK]

So I was a. I had a home birth, and I had been calling him mush.

[Weezy]

You look like you had a home birth.

[Myelin]

Okay. Not too much out of you look.

[Weezy]

Not too much, honey.

[SK]

I take that that she going to have one too.

[Mandy V]

The same braid, right? You going to be right. I wanted a water birthday.

[Weezy]

I wanted a water birth. Okay, you guys tap in. I do want birth, and I want to have it.

[SK]

Look, I want to be a doula.

[Weezy]

How did you have it?

[Myelin]

How did you have it?

[Weezy]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

Look at these two. Wait. You could have a baby with your ass in the air. As long as you don't go to the hospital.

[SK]

I got on all fours.

[Weezy]

The thing is, like, on your back, there's a lot of issues. So it's like they say, here's some history.

[SK]

Y.

[Myelin]

Here's some history. Did you know that the only reason we lay on our backs to have birth at the hospital is because quicker for the. No, no.

[Weezy]

Something appeasing to the man.

[Myelin]

Not a specific man. I think it was like a king or like a somebody that was running something. He was a perv and enjoyed watching women have babies. Babies. And because they would normally do it that way or standing up, he made them lay down so he could watch.

[Mandy V]

Shut the up.

[Myelin]

So he could watch strangers. Wives have babies.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

At random. And then it became a natural protocol.

[Mandy V]

Look at you, bringing history.

[Myelin]

Because I was like, what? I have my baby at the hospital. Thankfully, they sat me up because they, you know, there are some things, like they'll lay you back or like, they'll let you get a little bit more comfortable.

[Weezy]

Whatever's comfortable. Right.

[Myelin]

Whereas when that time it was for her to have her baby. Baby. She did everything so holistically. Her baby, our baby. But when it's time for her to have a baby she was carrying, she did everything so holistically, she did it at home. She practiced hypnobirthing so she could like control, like do all of this stuff that I didn't have to. It's crazy because they tell you.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I didn't even learn until like maybe five or six years ago that you should take a. With your feet elevated. Like.

[SK]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

Like in order to take a healthy.

[SK]

So when you breathe through, you need to breathe through.

[Weezy]

Stand on the toilet.

[Mandy V]

How much easier do you.

[Myelin]

How much.

[Mandy V]

I mean, not that I'm comparing to putting out a baby, but that's what I thought of.

[Myelin]

She's doing the hypnobirthing. That's what they're comparing it to.

[SK]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

They tell you to breathe down like you're doing that. You know, like.

[SK]

And that's why you're not supposed to like, you're not supposed to hold your breath sometimes. I'm having a baby or you don't do that. Breathe through and it'll come out.

[Mandy V]

That's the only time this is. And it's.

[Weezy]

We have learned so much.

[Mandy V]

To me, having a hardship, it. It's a form of birth control. Like when I be having to push out a really hard drop a baby. I could never have a baby like this.

[Myelin]

Cut it out of you. You don't got to even go through that.

[Mandy V]

That is. Oh no.

[Weezy]

That's because I have five ra. They said I have to do a C section. But you know, I want to be a home birth girl, so what am I going to do?

[SK]

Look, I was a home birth girl without a midwife. She ain't make it.

[Weezy]

It's not that advanced. I'm so you caught the baby biracial.

[SK]

It was not.

[Mandy V]

You caught the baby.

[SK]

That baby sk delivered our baby.

[Myelin]

Not just caught.

[Weezy]

Who else was there.

[Myelin]

By the time her mama was in.

[Mandy V]

The back crying, the midwife wasn't even. Didn't we.

[SK]

She was there. She probably got there 15 minutes later.

[Mandy V]

Wait, because of traffic? What the did the midwife show up late for?

[Myelin]

I think what happened was that she miss. She didn't understand my Lynn's urgency because.

[SK]

My Lynn was so calm because of hypno birthing.

[Myelin]

Babies are always coming.

[SK]

It's my second. And so she was just anticipating that it was going to take a while. And my doula that I had was also a first time doula. And then I had did hypnobirthing on this line. So I literally. It was my friend.

[Mandy V]

Y' all got a discount. Well, she did teach.

[Weezy]

She's a hypnobirthing I'm assuming you ended up.

[Myelin]

What?

[Mandy V]

You ended up what?

[Myelin]

She ended up going through a program or like a. Yeah.

[SK]

So I didn't have to pay for anything.

[Mandy V]

I would have called that program. Like, this ain't even make it on time. My baby.

[Myelin]

It was real.

[Mandy V]

I would have called and been like.

[Weezy]

She kept her placenta. Not the placenta. The. The.

[SK]

On me. Yeah.

[Myelin]

And we kept it connected until she burst it out.

[Weezy]

They say don't babies be smarter when you look. When you.

[SK]

Like, I've got a photo of him connected to the placenta still, like, on.

[Mandy V]

The bed now, because you did all this, you're also. You ate the placenta, didn't you? You put it into pills and stuff.

[Weezy]

I want to.

[Mandy V]

I do.

[Weezy]

So I was thinking about freezing it for smoothies and then pills. Oh.

[Mandy V]

It's life. You're right. It's science. It's healthy.

[Weezy]

Yeah, it is.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

You should do it. Also, I don't want to get depressed. I'm so prone to be a little sad girl.

[Mandy V]

First off, eat a dick and eat a.

[Weezy]

Is not easy.

[SK]

Yes, it is. Helps the mood, the depression, everything, girl.

[Weezy]

Let me tell you something, Mandy gonna be so sick of me on this podcast when I'm pregnant, because anybody we have on me, like, you have children.

[Myelin]

Are you trying to get pregnant in two years? Okay. You got time for it.

[Weezy]

Which is also why we be like, damn, we need to go out now. But then every time we started having a really good time out, we'd be like, three.

[Myelin]

Three more years.

[Mandy V]

Three more years, bro.

[Weezy]

We literally was out with.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

We keep pushing it. Wiling out.

[Mandy V]

We say, we're going to make it to 10 years. And the. We going to send you all a real. We're ending. But then we're like, maybe we'll stay on Patreon. Yeah, we'll do it virtually.

[Weezy]

For me, I just really want to be able to. If I've been doing a podcast about sex, health, and wellness for half of my adult career, what the fuck am I doing getting pregnant and not sharing this with the people who have watched me on this journey. Like, to be. It's just, like, almost not like they're owed it, but I feel like I'm owed that connection with fans, too, bruh. Someone dies in my family, that sounds depressing, but, like, then me and someone else are gonna share grieving stuff and what do we do? Like, there's always been a connecting thing, and I'm sure you felt that, too. When Mandy and I go on tour, the last tour, we Did So many people were coming up to Mandy about weight loss and it was just like.

[Mandy V]

Weight loss and cancer are my two connections with the audience.

[Weezy]

And it's intense.

[Mandy V]

Like, like they'd be making me cry and I'd be like. But those are my two connections with a lot of the listeners.

[Weezy]

For mine, it's having older parents, I would say. Oh, and probably also them being just like super emotional and wanting to manifest and being kind of gay.

[Myelin]

Your parents, Are you being gay?

[Weezy]

No, no. I say kind of gay because I'd just be like, I'm dating woman now. And then I'm doing that. And I think a lot of people like feel. I've just noticed I get so many DMs from women that are very confused about their sexuality and feeling like I won't judge them.

[Myelin]

Yeah, that makes sense.

[Weezy]

And so I think being flighty about what you're feeling is something you, you feel like you can't really. It's flightiness. You feel like you can't come to someone who you may know this lesbian because they're going to judge you. So when someone's bi and been living in their bi ness out loud for a while, it feels like a safer space. I don't, I don't know why, but I mean. Yeah. So to me, the second I'm pregnant, all, all y' all hoes, they finna be telling me what to do, what to eat shit.

[Mandy V]

I create a safe space too. That's why I fuck my friends. Like we have sex together and then they know it's a safe place.

[Myelin]

I'd like to know. I'd like to know what it's like after you fuck your friends and you guys just go back to being friends.

[Weezy]

No, the way she's talking about, it's so crazy. I don't understand.

[Mandy V]

No, it get like maintain sex though.

[Myelin]

Or is it like a one off thing that just happened at happen or do you guys discuss it in advance? Like do you want to come over, get some head?

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy? It normally just happen and then like after it happens once, maybe it happens again or like then those become in.

[Myelin]

Between is what I'm.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, how is the.

[Weezy]

Okay, so for me, if I have sex with someone now, we can't watch a movie anymore.

[Myelin]

Oh, whoa.

[Weezy]

Without. No, no, hear me. Like without touch. I don't know the boundary now. So my home girls come over, we be kicking it on the couch. Now that we have some sex, how are we on the couch?

[Myelin]

Sit on this couch. Are we supposed to be doing It. No.

[Weezy]

Are we supposed to be touching?

[Mandy V]

Oh, I see.

[Weezy]

I actually have a weirdness I see in my own head.

[Mandy V]

Like, yeah, your head. Your head is different than my head. We know that.

[Weezy]

The platonic. Like, when do we do it again?

[Mandy V]

I mean, to me. To me, it doesn't change anything. Like, we're able to still have fun, go out, eat, drink. It's. It's all the same.

[Myelin]

And you guys stand up, you put your clothes back on.

[Mandy V]

I really want to.

[Weezy]

High school.

[SK]

In high school, it was me. She said, I'm learning, but listening to you say this, I'm just like, okay, that sounds like the dynamic that me and two of my girlfriends had. And we would do the shiz after school, go, like, have some fun. And then literally, it never disturbed our friendship.

[Weezy]

I had that when I was, like, 10.

[Mandy V]

It never, never disturbed it.

[Weezy]

Punching.

[Mandy V]

Like, we don't even. But we don't even think. Like, we don't. It's even something to where, like, after we have sex.

[Weezy]

Sex.

[Mandy V]

Then I might be like, oh, I might be able to get her to join me in a. Like, it just becomes like, girl, you want to go on a trip with you. Like, it just becomes fun. But I think a lot of my friends just view sex as, like, a night out. Like, there's not. We don't like. To me, like, I'm sorry. All of those emotional ties, like, the exchange of.

[Myelin]

It is fun, but it's not like, emotional ties. Having to know, like, it's not all that for you.

[Mandy V]

So sex to me is fun. Yeah, Sex to me is like. Like, we went bowling the other day. Got you so such a different perspective. Literally. Like, the way I view sex isn't like, something that brings us into this, like, you know, this. This emotional state that now our whole dynamics have changed. Like, it's why I believe that even in having sex. And I've talked about this in my 20s, casual sex, like, you could have sex with a man and it not mean anything.

[Weezy]

So here's where I think there's like, are these friends, like, crazy Crystal is your best friend.

[Mandy V]

Right.

[Weezy]

But are these just friends that you just see once in a blue? Like, can you really have a close connection?

[SK]

Or are you saying because you're friends.

[Myelin]

With Crystal is why we.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. No, I didn't. I never fucked Crystal. But she's not gay. Like, she don't like women.

[Myelin]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

But all of my friends that like women, majority of them, we've had sex.

[Weezy]

Damn.

[Mandy V]

It's not uncommon. Yeah.

[Myelin]

Like, there's something interesting about being gay and single. Right. Because in la, I think there's this underlying story, like, when you finally get in a relationship, your homies and probably already that or like, somebody like everybody.

[Mandy V]

You know, like, Right.

[Myelin]

Being big city ass, small city.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Myelin]

Being single, being free, being open and you sleeping with somebody. That's not the weirdest.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I think I. I think I didn't even realize it was like, this thing until, like, my ex, he said that if he meets a friend, he would like to know if we were intimate before or not. And I was like, for what? Like, I didn't understand that thing. But I think because like many of y', all, it would. It would be. You know, it would feel like there was.

[Myelin]

I would be in the room and not know. I feel like now, which is maybe.

[Mandy V]

That'S what it was. But I'm. But I also had to do the explaining that, like, they don't want to be with me. Like, they could still be over. They're not gonna get jealous of you. Like, we don't have that dynamic.

[Myelin]

Interesting.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

If I wasn't here, y' all could. And if y' all went on vacation, you also could maybe.

[Mandy V]

And so I told him that, like, there was. There was one homegirl. We were out and I text him and I was like, I'm not going to loan. I literally said, what's funny is I told him one night that I said, ooh, I wanna fuck a girl tonight. I'm just in the mood. And it's funny because I ended up fucking my friend. And he was confused because he thought I was just gonna pick someone up from the club.

[Myelin]

I was like, well, I got a.

[Mandy V]

Girl with me right now. Why make it hard? Like, you know what I mean? And she's into girls, and we were vibing, and so we fucked. That night. She made me squirt on my living room floor. It was great. And we haven't had sex again since then, but we'll make out still. We, like. We, like, rub on each other and it's just.

[Weezy]

Are you making out in private spaces?

[Mandy V]

Oh, we made out in the club.

[Weezy]

Okay. So season. To me, that's different.

[SK]

Yeah, but it's like a night out.

[Myelin]

Just you having sex.

[Mandy V]

And that's what I'm saying. But even the night out may lead to the bedroom, right? It's possible. And so for me, like, I don't.

[Myelin]

Know, I'm not starting there. You guys aren't going. You're not coming over for this intimate thing?

[Mandy V]

No. Like, there was a Homegirl that I ended up having sex with.

[Weezy]

This is, like, gay.

[Mandy V]

Well, maybe it's.

[Weezy]

Maybe.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I say it all the time.

[Weezy]

We were just saying.

[Mandy V]

Shout out to.

[SK]

Matthew, and I thought they was together.

[Mandy V]

But Matthew is one of our patrons, and he said that he really resonated with one of the chapters as a femme presenting gay man. He had all this. And I was like, I didn't. You know, when we talk about men being able to relate to certain chapters, I don't think I ever considered how a gay man would read or see our stories and relate. And I said, you know what's crazy? I live my life as a gay man, and I know I do. Like, that's how I. You know.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

It changed the.

[SK]

I literally just noticed the nails, too.

[Weezy]

Yeah. For real? For real. Now, see, this is what you call.

[Mandy V]

Y' all are very lusty.

[Myelin]

What, us?

[Weezy]

Y'. All.

[Mandy V]

The nails is both of y' all very.

[Myelin]

That's crazy, because I don't even use these hands for that.

[SK]

Nope.

[Myelin]

Not even a little bit.

[Weezy]

Still gay. Still gay.

[Myelin]

But not.

[Weezy]

By the way, are you guys toy Toy ladies?

[Myelin]

No, no.

[Weezy]

I'm a scissoring. So that's my.

[Mandy V]

Is it.

[Weezy]

That's my favorite.

[Mandy V]

I don't. I've never done it.

[Weezy]

Not. Y.

[Mandy V]

No, no, girl.

[SK]

Congrats on the hips. The thighs.

[Mandy V]

I was about to say my hips.

[Myelin]

My hips.

[Mandy V]

Oh, baby. I be.

[Myelin]

I be getting the wideness. The. Wider, wider, wider.

[Weezy]

It's.

[Myelin]

It's a lot.

[Mandy V]

Coochie bumping is difficult.

[Weezy]

That is my favorite girl, cuz. Like, the last threesome we had with a lesbian. So she literally said we were on the date. She was so funny. She was like, listen, like, I around one nigga every five years. Yeah, but this is gonna work for me. So when we. She knew I was into scissoring, whether it be from the show where I said it and we finally started fans. She wasn't a fan.

[Mandy V]

But how she know from the show?

[Weezy]

She's black and 34 and, like, Les, and she's not a fan.

[Mandy V]

She's on field. She was like, if she knows, then she's a fan.

[Myelin]

She went home and sent you to sh.

[Mandy V]

Like, she's a fan, bro.

[Weezy]

It was the third time we fucked anyway, so my man started watching us scissor, and he was like, okay, I've watched you scissor other women. This was the first time where I was like, oh, I get it now. And he's like, is it because.

[Myelin]

It's because the other girls don't be coming they be faking it for you.

[Weezy]

Yeah. And he's like, maybe, like, getting off the girls that you're fucking that don't generally do anything. He's like, I ain't even. He's like, y' all weren't even on each other's pussy anymore.

[Myelin]

Exactly.

[Weezy]

It was like you was coming from the thigh.

[Myelin]

Exactly.

[Weezy]

Right?

[Mandy V]

That's crazy.

[Myelin]

It's just. That's what I was gonna say. Like, people love scissoring, but when I think about bumping cut. Yeah, you can lay flat. I don't need to do all that wide shit. I need this to touch this. Right. We just gotta. You just have to hit emotion. And that's probably what you were actually doing by the time. Cause real scissoring, like, ain't nobody you'll clean like.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, yeah, bitch.

[Weezy]

I can scissor on the titty. Right?

[Myelin]

That's what I'm saying, baby. All I need is friction, baby.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[SK]

I can.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Let me sit down.

[Mandy V]

Right.

[Weezy]

But I feel like. Like when I'm doing it with straight girls, they feel like it's weird.

[Myelin]

Oh, no, I don't enjoy this.

[SK]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

I'm just saying that I understand that.

[Mandy V]

With the legend, I always understand whatever people are into. You know what I mean?

[Weezy]

Anyway, let's tell people where they can find you.

[Myelin]

And you.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. Is that why we ending it Short Nails?

[Weezy]

So we might need to have y' all all horrible one day.

[Myelin]

That might be.

[Mandy V]

Yeah. To get real, real nasty with it behind the paywall. Since you. You own a business, right?

[Weezy]

Oh, wait. Tell us about the businesses. Kismet and all the things.

[Mandy V]

Let's do it. Oh, my God.

[Myelin]

The whole rundown.

[Mandy V]

Sk.

[Myelin]

So you started off by saying that we don't do podcasts, but I do have a small podcast with my best friend. It's called Hella Good Company.

[Mandy V]

Love it.

[Myelin]

We do a podcast. We also do event production all throughout LA for black queer women. And it's trans inclusive.

[Weezy]

Oh, wow.

[Myelin]

We are having our first event, which will have happened after this, our first international pride event in Tulum. We're very, very excited. We cannot wait.

[Mandy V]

And then we do Be a lot of scissoring there.

[SK]

I think that will be, you know.

[Myelin]

I think that there will be. Will be of the real kind.

[Weezy]

How many people are coming?

[Myelin]

150. We bought. We got out like, this is the first inaugural event. We literally sold out.

[Weezy]

The 150 is insane.

[SK]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

For a first event.

[SK]

Yes.

[Myelin]

We're really, really excited.

[Weezy]

You are going to have to hold each other and be like, when it's all said and done.

[Myelin]

Them hoes gonna be ready, they're gonna be like, you need a third.

[SK]

Okay, okay.

[Mandy V]

That's exactly ready.

[Myelin]

But yes, that's what we do. And I also run an interior design firm. That's my bread and butter.

[Mandy V]

I'm an interior designer, baby.

[SK]

He's a designer.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Myelin]

And I married an artist who you're at my turn.

[SK]

Yeah, I was homeschooling for a while, but that is stressful, I believe. So they about to start school and all get terrifying.

[Weezy]

Get them out of here. I know.

[SK]

It is terrifying. It's been a work in progress of getting there. But for a happy wife who's mentally stable, you know, that's what we're going to do. So I've always worked with kids. I'm an artist. Artists. Right now I'm working with foster kids, teaching them art and art therapy type of stuff. So I love that.

[Weezy]

Wow, that's really cool. I love meeting wholesome couples.

[Myelin]

Are we wholesome?

[Mandy V]

I was about to say.

[Weezy]

I mean, their mothers. That was so long ago.

[Mandy V]

Nothing's changed.

[Weezy]

If one of them fight. We gotta do a recap, Cap, cuz I be in LA a lot. We could do a Patreon episode. Episode. Tell me if CL was fighting. And saloon. Cuz you know lesbians getting jealous.

[SK]

They better not. This a real. This a real mature group. 20 year, like the babies ain't no 40. We making sure.

[Mandy V]

See, this is what I'm talking about. See, and this. I was dating a like 36, got in a fight. I said, oh, no, I can't do this.

[Weezy]

It's too much.

[Mandy V]

You're too old to be fighting. You know what I mean? We can't be fighting. If you in your 30s, you can't be fighting, bro.

[Myelin]

Just don't do no.

[Weezy]

But go and support them. All of their links are in this bio, so you can go and check them out. And check out the hella good pod. You got to have us on sometime. Of course.

[Mandy V]

And if you haven't yet, make sure you cop no holes. Barred Dual manifesto of Sexual Exploration and power. Available now, wherever you get.

[SK]

Books, Books.

[Mandy V]

Thank y' all as well for helping this book become a New York Times bestseller, baby. And then also if you want more content, if you miss more of the sex, the raunch and all the things, it ain't going nowhere. Horrible Decisions is on Patreon. So join us at patreon.com backslash Horrible decisions, y'. All. Thank y' all for tuning in to another episode of Decisions, Decisions. See y' all next week. Puss Hole.

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