Ep. 438: Thick Threads & Three Strokes (ft. Persephanii & Patrick Cloud)

Summary

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Podcast Summary

Decisions, Decisions – Ep. 438: Thick Threads & Three Strokes (ft. Persephanii & Patrick Cloud)

Date: September 15, 2025
Hosts: Mandii B & WeezyWTF
Guests: Persephanii & Patrick Cloud

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Overview

This episode dives into the complexities and hilarities of non-traditional relationships, body image, sexual taboos, and the unexpected intersections of modern dating, all with the inimitable candor and comedic energy Decisions, Decisions is known for. Mandii B and Weezy welcome Persephanii and Patrick Cloud—hosts of the “Thick Threads” podcast—to discuss everything from awkward sexual mishaps to BBW sex parties, online dating, and what it really means to be fulfilled in a relationship. The conversation is peppered with irreverent commentary, personal stories, and no-holds-barred opinions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introductions & Thick Threads Origins

[03:00–05:57]

• Persephanii and Patrick Cloud describe how they started "Thick Threads," a podcast centering on wild online stories (from Reddit, Twitter, Instagram), plus their dynamic of “thick” topics and body positivity.
• Mandii B: “It’s giving power of the P. So we’re going to lean into all the P things: pain, pleasure, progression, pussy, pop. That on period.” [04:17]
• Discussion about bodily attention (especially Persephanii’s) and objectification in entertainment spaces.

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2. Childhood Norms & The Naked House

[07:09–08:36]

• The group recalls Reddit threads about “things you thought were normal growing up”—with Weezy sharing growing up in a “naked house” where nudity wasn’t sexualized.
• Patrick: “Imagine being at somebody’s house for the first time and you see their mom shitting. That relationship is cooked.” [08:22]

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3. Truth or Dare Segment: Sexual Mishaps & Body Image

[09:10–17:27]

• Persephanii (truth): shares her most awkward sexual experience—in high school, with a partner of strict traditional/Asian descent; nervousness and the risk of being caught leads to an abrupt, premature ending.
  • Patrick: “I lasted maybe three and a half rides…” [11:15]
  • Persephanii: “It was the high-stress situation, you know what I mean? And then it happened. Boy Stroke McGee.” [12:24]
• Discussion of experiences with body shaming/desirability at BBW parties, and how body size affects sexual dynamics and confidence.
  • Weezy: “I had my first thick girl last year… It was so overwhelming to me because if you aren’t thick, being with a thick girl makes you feel like, ‘Oh shit’.” [14:04]
  • Mandii: “I was 230 and 5’1”… But what’s amazing is at those parties, you feel desired.” [15:16]

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4. Objectification, White Men, and Body Conversation

[22:22–24:54]

• Persephanii speaks candidly about being sexualized for her breasts and not feeling shame or objectified anymore:
  • Persephanii: “I went through a little phase where I was just like, okay, are you under some hat, titties? But then I got to the point where I was like, these are amazing. Why would I shame somebody for wanting this?” [22:51]
• The hosts dig into cultural and racial preferences regarding body types, discussing the trope that “Black men don’t care about titties,” and theorizing about beauty standards.

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5. Navigating Sexual Compatibility and Open Relationships

[30:00–37:45]

• Clip: “My client wants to open the relationship because their sexual needs aren’t being met.” Leads to a debate on sexual fulfillment versus emotional connection in a relationship.
  • Mandii: “You can’t stay where you’re not being satisfied.” [30:19]
  • Persephanii: “No, you can’t be in a relationship with someone who doesn’t sexually fulfill you… It messes up intimacy and romance.” [31:13]
• Spirals into a debate over whether sexual dissatisfaction should automatically mean opening the relationship, or if it’s just a sign to move on.

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6. “Broke Dick” vs Wealthy Men, Sexual Stereotypes

[33:07–36:29]

• The crew roasts the stereotype that “broke men have the best sex,” digresses into discussions of transactional relationships, and social media’s influence on expectations.
  • Mandii: “To me, an ain’t shit nigga is a liar, a cheater… I know y’all love these broke men, kudos to y’all. I don’t get it.” [33:26]
• Persephanii flips the question: do “broke women” also have the best sex? Consensus: this is less discussed.

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7. Extreme Kinks, Sex Work, & “Would You Rather…?”

[36:29–41:17]

• Spirited roundtable on what people would do for money—specifically, the infamous Dubai stories about women being paid to be defecated on.
  • Weezy: “You give me $100,000, I’m shitting on you. $250K? Him, his daddy, his son—bring the whole family!” [39:35]
• Humorous but pointed debate: Would you rather spend 30 minutes with cockroaches, or be defecated on once for a quarter million?
  • Patrick: “Give me the money. I’m wiping that.” [40:41]

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8. Homie Court: Infidelity Case Study

[44:05–54:54]

• New segment: “Homie Court” — playing a viral TikTok of a woman exposing a man for cheating on his wedding day.
• The hosts dissect who's truly "guilty" in the situation: the man for deception, or the woman for ignoring red flags and oversharing online.
  • Mandi: “She is guilty of being delulu (delusional) … There are a lot of red flags we choose to ignore." [53:18]
• They share personal stories about catching partners cheating through clever detective work.

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9. Catching Cheaters & “Woman to Woman” Calls

[61:12–66:17]

• Persephanii recalls going full detective mode, using her criminal justice background to investigate an ex:
  • “I went through his Craigslist … He was looking for sexual companionship... The ad had ‘offered mouth’.” [61:19]
• She details “woman to woman” calls with other women, seeing through lies, and the self-esteem issues that keep people in bad relationships.
• Weezy: “Don’t heal in the house. Go outside, so you remember, niggas look good.” [66:17]

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10. Thick Threads: Beyond the Podcast

[69:08–71:00]

• Persephanii and Patrick highlight their brand: “Thick Threads” also features a true crime show, travel series (recently Costa Rica, Sun Valley, Greece, Rome, Amalfi Coast), and an active Patreon community.
• Weezy: “Y’all went to the Amalfi Coast together? And y’all never—[laughs]” [70:36]
• Shared admiration for friendship, collaboration, and taking their real-life stories on the road.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Mandii B, dishing on body compliments: “I was already looking at your breasts. I didn’t want to motorboat, but I did out of respect.” [03:32]
• Weezy, on BBW parties: “He used to tell me, ‘My friends thought I was crazy for going to BBW parties.’” [14:42]
• Persephanii, on body positivity: “These are amazing. People love this. Why would I be like, you want this? I’m not shaming them.” [22:51]
• Patrick, on dealing with objectification: “Every post [online]…the comments are, ‘I don’t know how he does it, how can he just sit there?’ They don’t know you get used to it.” [25:47]
• Mandii, roasting broke men: “I know y’all love these broke men, kudos to y’all. I don’t get it. I don’t know what broke dick is.” [33:26]
• Weezy, on transactional relationships: “Women flying out to Dubai and getting boo booed on and coming back with 50k? That’s broke shit.” [36:43]
• Persephanii, on detective work: “I have a degree in criminal justice, and I used it for this talk. I went through Craigslist…The ad had ‘offered mouth.’” [61:12]
• Patrick, after catching a cheating partner: “My self-esteem was low. I just needed all my evidence. I ended up finding four more girls…I called everybody and got all the tea.” [63:05]
• Weezy, on healing: “Don’t heal in the house. Go outside. The idle mind is a devil’s workshop.” [66:21]

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Recommended Segments (Timestamps)

• Thick Threads podcast origin story: [05:10–06:46]
• Truth or Dare (awkward sex stories): [09:10–13:10]
• BBW sex party and body image discussion: [14:04–16:55]
• Conversations on racial/body type preferences: [22:22–24:54]
• Sexual incompatibility & open relationships: [30:00–32:38]
• “Would you rather” extreme kinks & money games: [36:29–41:17]
• Homie Court: Cheating story breakdown: [44:05–54:54]
• Detective stories & woman-to-woman calls: [61:12–67:00]
• Travel show & future plans: [69:08–71:04]

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Tone & Style

Hilariously unfiltered, conversational, and real—full of explicit language, playful teasing, and honest vulnerability. The hosts and guests are never afraid to roast themselves or each other, but always with an undertone of liberation, body positivity, and a keen eye for the absurdities of modern relationships.

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For New Listeners

If you haven’t listened, this episode is a wild ride through candid sexual storytelling, the behind-the-scenes of body positivity media, hard-earned relationship lessons, and the joys (and ridiculousness) of reclaiming your story. The banter is electric, the stories are jaw-dropping, and both the wisdom and the laughs are worth every minute.

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Transcript

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[Persephone]

No purchase necessary. VGW Group Void we're prohibited by law. 21 plus terms and conditions apply. I lasted maybe three and a half rides. Sha was out of there. I was like, man, I can't take this. L. So I told her that I heard something, like somebody coming through the front door. Traditional parents.

[Patrick Dencey]

She freaked out.

[Persephone]

She was like, oh, my gosh.

[Patrick Dencey]

She ran.

[Persephone]

So she hid me in the closet.

[Mandy B.]

Now she found a way to lie. Cause you admitted me.

[Persephone]

It was too much excitement. And then it started.

[Mandy B.]

You are too good of a liar.

[Weezy]

Welcome to Decisions, Decisions.

[Mandy B.]

I don't think you should say Decisions, Decisions. It sounded like you was talking. It cursed him.

[Weezy]

You definitely say the welcome.

[Mandy B.]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Weezy]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together?

[Mandy B.]

Decisions, Decisions.

[Weezy]

Welcome back, y'.

[Patrick Dencey]

All.

[Mandy B.]

It's another episode of Decisions, Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy B. AKA Pegan Markle, AKA Peg the Stallion, AKA Peg Bundy, AKA that bitch.

[Weezy]

I'm Weezy, y'.

[Mandy B.]

All.

[Weezy]

If you're watching the YouTube, you're welcome.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, you're welcome.

[Patrick Dencey]

Cause, wow.

[Mandy B.]

I don't know if you noticed, and I didn't want to be rude. You came and gave me a hug, but I was already looking at your breasts, and I was like, fuck. I think I just got caught, like. But also, when you gave me a hug, my face went right there.

[Patrick Dencey]

So I felt like, did I hit you with it?

[Mandy B.]

I mean, it was like, I didn't want a motorboat, but I did out of respect. I didn't ask for consent first. I wouldn't have said anything, but, wow. Even when I see all your clips online, I feel like, can they just crop it like it should be neck up? Crop.

[Weezy]

No, I'm not gonna cry now. If you wanna see the clips and extend it past the day, which you have to. You gotta go and support Thick Threads podcast.

[Mandy B.]

You do.

[Weezy]

So I had the pleasure of meeting Patrick on his show Red Bull iq. And then, you know, just following Patrick Dencey and you, I was like, well, now I really like him, by the way.

[Mandy B.]

Excuse me. What happens? I saw. I said Patrick and Persephone. It's giving power of the P. So we're doing. That's the outline for today. We gonna lean into all the P things, especially. Cause we did that for our book. No holds barred. Make sure y' all go cop that. So we're gonna talk about. On things like pain, pleasure, progression, pussy, pop.

[Patrick Dencey]

That on period.

[Mandy B.]

All period. All the peas, all the penis.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Can we think of any other, like, sexual penis key words?

[Patrick Dencey]

Are we going to talk about pegging? Because.

[Persephone]

Yeah, you had a lot of. You had a lot of Peg.

[Mandy B.]

What's crazy?

[Persephone]

First, what's going on with You.

[Mandy B.]

What's crazy is the last time we had podcasters on, we allowed them to ask us questions. I'm not doing that. This is about y', all, okay? I did my goddamn research, and I.

[Persephone]

Got questions dropped, like seven peg nicknames unprovoked.

[Mandy B.]

And that's why I did it. Because this whole episode, y' all gonna get a lot of. It's here. Okay. Before we get started, though, Thick Threads Podcast. How the fuck did y' all get together? In doing this podcast, y' all have a lot of really interesting takes, but also, y' all dive into the shit. How did this happen?

[Patrick Dencey]

We had an opportunity to. My manager actually brought us an opportunity to. To do a podcast on Revolt. And so we were just like, yeah. I mean, I've been on his. His individual the Cloudy podcast a few times, and the fans really liked us together on screen, so we was just like, yeah, let's do it. So we started, came up with the concept of Twitter threads. Threads everywhere. And, you know, he kind of.

[Weezy]

That's where he came from.

[Persephone]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

But was thick. Cause of Persephone.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, thick is you, right? Cause you not that thick.

[Persephone]

No, I'm not thick. But I mean, we were thinking, like, it was interesting stuff that we were getting into. You know, we were going into the thick of it.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. He'll be saying he thick in the draws. You ain't got girth.

[Weezy]

You.

[Persephone]

I missed a chance to say I'm thick. I think I'm good.

[Weezy]

I think I'm good. I also was surprised because I've always looked at you as kind of like this clean cut.

[Persephone]

Him.

[Weezy]

No, no. Really? Because you got to think I'm at Red Bull. So I'm thinking he's a clean cut host. And even some of the things that they were saying about Pat, why he's so great, they were like, oh, yeah, you could, like, mold with anybody. He's great. You know, a little curse right here and there. Don't mean nothing. So then I start finding all clips online. Like, oh, maybe she brought it out of.

[Mandy B.]

No.

[Persephone]

Oh, no.

[Weezy]

Damn it.

[Mandy B.]

Not too scary.

[Persephone]

Yeah. I mean, I think Red Bull might be the cleanest thing I do.

[Weezy]

Oh, what's Thick Threads?

[Patrick Dencey]

That's actually the only so thick threads. We just go over Reddit, Twitter, Instagram, carousels, and we find, like, the craziest, wildest threads that we can, and we just go over them and we have. Yeah, like you said, interesting takes.

[Weezy]

Because what's the craziest one y' all have seen in a while?

[Patrick Dencey]

The crazy.

[Weezy]

Because we Got one for you that Mandy found on Twitter the other day.

[Persephone]

It's tough. Cause we've been switching it up. It started off with, like, crazy stories and, like, sexual stuff. And then it kind of, like, opened up. Like, we do stuff that's just like, straight up interesting or funny. We just kind of keep it all over the place. So each episode is different that doesn't.

[Weezy]

Have to be sexual.

[Persephone]

We just did one that was like. It was a Reddit thread that was basically saying, like, what's a something that was normal in your house growing up? That's not really normal. You thought it was normal until somebody looked at you horrified.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, yeah. And what were some of the. Wait. First off, do y' all have anything about Yalls childhood that y' all thought.

[Persephone]

No, I feel like I. I knew what was universally strange. Yeah.

[Weezy]

I grew up in a naked house. Like, my mom would be naked in front of me.

[Patrick Dencey]

That was one of them, actually.

[Persephone]

Oh, yeah.

[Weezy]

I don't think that's crazy.

[Mandy B.]

I don't think that's crazy.

[Persephone]

Well, I mean, it was. It was basically them saying that they didn't see being naked as so sexual because they're. They grew up in a house that was naked all the time, you know, But I get it. Like, we. Were they naked when people were over?

[Weezy]

No.

[Persephone]

See, so that's.

[Patrick Dencey]

That's the disconnect with the shitting.

[Weezy]

And my dad didn't do it.

[Persephone]

If you grew up in an open shit house house, like, even when you have people over, like, you close the door. Imagine being at somebody's house for the first time and you see their mom shitting. That relationship is cooked. I can't talk to her after that for at least a couple.

[Mandy B.]

Especially if it's one of those shits where they're straining. Oh, my God. You gotta, like, feel like you even.

[Patrick Dencey]

Hear them, but you can hear it, like, as you're approaching the bathroom and it's just plopping. I'm like, is somebody in there?

[Weezy]

Hi, ma'.

[Persephone]

Am. Hi, ma'.

[Weezy]

Am.

[Mandy B.]

It's crazy.

[Patrick Dencey]

She's like, no, no, no.

[Mandy B.]

Come on. Hello, ma'. Am. What you need? Now, this isn't a p. Part of the show, but we added a new segment, so kind of an icebreaker. We're now getting our guests to play truth or dare. Now, because the last guest chose to both say truth. I want you guys to decide who's doing the truth and who's doing the dare. And I have one for both.

[Persephone]

You gotta pre decide who's doing the truth.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Who's doing the truth?

[Persephone]

That's not fair.

[Mandy B.]

It sure is.

[Weezy]

We can't hear the options first.

[Mandy B.]

You cannot hear the options first. So who's doing the truth? Who's doing the dare?

[Persephone]

I feel like you could do the dare. I feel like that's what the people want to see.

[Mandy B.]

That's what we want.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah. Who the hell wants to see me?

[Persephone]

What? Do push ups?

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no. This is a podcast. Everything is audible if that tells you anything.

[Patrick Dencey]

Okay. Still.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, so you're gonna do the truth.

[Persephone]

I'll do the truth here.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, so we'll see who the hell.

[Persephone]

Wants to see me do a dare.

[Mandy B.]

You see niggas be so scared of a dare, and I don't.

[Persephone]

I wasn't scared of the dare. I was doing it for entertainment purposes.

[Weezy]

Patrick.

[Mandy B.]

Defense.

[Weezy]

Thinking that the show may be sexually related, and he's like, let's just give people what they want.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, yeah. They both did truth. And I was like, truth is always the easy way out. I said, fuck that. I'm not allowing niggas to choose anymore. Truth or dare?

[Patrick Dencey]

Dares. Then since I gotta do a dare.

[Persephone]

Well, now, then maybe switch the segment title.

[Mandy B.]

So, Patrick, Patrick, your truth. I would love you to share what your most memorable or awkward sexual experience was and why. Most awkward.

[Persephone]

Yeah. Okay, so you cut the memorable.

[Mandy B.]

Well, it was memorable if you. Why was it memorable? What made it so awkward as well?

[Persephone]

I got a good awkward one. This was long, long ago. I was. I was at this girl's house, and she was. Her family was very traditional. Okay, meaning a in the house would be a disaster.

[Mandy B.]

She was white.

[Persephone]

She was. I'm not gonna say what race she is, but she was of the Asian.

[Mandy B.]

She wasn't black.

[Patrick Dencey]

She was of the Asian culture.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, oh.

[Weezy]

So a nigger in the house.

[Persephone]

That's what I'm saying.

[Weezy]

I thought you meant a man in the house.

[Persephone]

No, no, no, no.

[Mandy B.]

I knew what he said.

[Persephone]

That too. That too. But you want to add insult to injury?

[Mandy B.]

Did you have the dreads then, too?

[Persephone]

Kind of offended by that, but I'll.

[Mandy B.]

Just say that adds a little Asian anger. Yes.

[Persephone]

I'm just playing with you.

[Weezy]

A dreadlock nigga.

[Mandy B.]

I.

[Persephone]

So no, we.

[Mandy B.]

We.

[Persephone]

We were. We were good because they were gone. Right?

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Persephone]

And. Man 2. I. I lasted maybe three and a half rides.

[Patrick Dencey]

Strokes.

[Mandy B.]

No, she's riding.

[Persephone]

Oh, three and a half. I. I was out of there.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Persephone]

I was out of there, but I was embarrassed. I. I was like, man, I can't take this. L. So I Basically, I told her that I heard something like somebody coming.

[Patrick Dencey]

Through the front door.

[Persephone]

And she, you know, traditional parents, she freaked out. She was like, oh, my God. She ran downstairs. She told me she hid me in the closet.

[Mandy B.]

Now, she found a way to lie. Cause you admitted me. This is really. I was.

[Persephone]

I was. I was out of there. I was out of there. It was because it was like, oh, no, we might not. We might get caught. You know, it was too much excitement. And then it started.

[Mandy B.]

You are too good of a liar. And now I feel like you're a fucking liar.

[Weezy]

No lie.

[Mandy B.]

You came up with that quick as fuck.

[Weezy]

That is a really.

[Patrick Dencey]

What do you mean, quick as fuck?

[Persephone]

That was the. I was in high school, so probably like, that's smart. 17.

[Mandy B.]

What?

[Persephone]

No, I mean, the thing was, was, like, I think we all knew what would happen if her parents came home. You know what I mean?

[Mandy B.]

Three strokes and you said, fuck, I got a lot.

[Patrick Dencey]

It was like, we shouldn't be doing this.

[Persephone]

I couldn't be here. You know what I mean? It was like.

[Patrick Dencey]

It was the high stress situation, you.

[Persephone]

Know what I mean? And then it happened. Boy stroke McGee.

[Weezy]

I know we don't know her ethnicity, but one of my homegirls, she's Chinese and Korean. She was like joking about how she can always tell when a dude has been with an Asian woman for the first time. Like, how do you know? She's like, because they come quickly. She's like, they're just.

[Persephone]

Phew.

[Weezy]

They literally are looking at me. They're like, overwhelmed by me. They're like looking at my body.

[Mandy B.]

I knew I was part Asian.

[Persephone]

Wow.

[Mandy B.]

I'm just saying, I have that.

[Persephone]

You're just gonna slide some self compliments in there.

[Weezy]

But yeah, she said that basically what'll happen is, it's like, she said less than a minute. She said, and it's always the first.

[Patrick Dencey]

I'm always the first.

[Persephone]

She said, no one's that martial arts.

[Mandy B.]

Grit or just a lot of niggas is out here lying about why they're coming quick.

[Persephone]

Why you gotta pivot to that?

[Patrick Dencey]

Why can't we just as a unit?

[Mandy B.]

They do.

[Patrick Dencey]

They do.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Persephone]

I was in high school.

[Patrick Dencey]

I know I've been lied to.

[Mandy B.]

Period.

[Weezy]

Period. Quickest A. Has a dude ever been on the outside of you before he came.

[Persephone]

Whoa.

[Weezy]

Just looked at you.

[Persephone]

What does that mean? Like fools.

[Patrick Dencey]

Okay. When I was in college, we were in the club and I know, I know a hundred percent. I was dancing with this dude and he nutted and now he jizzing his Pants. A hundred percent. He started like, you know, you know that gyrate.

[Persephone]

Wow.

[Patrick Dencey]

You know, so the rhythm switch.

[Mandy B.]

Dancing.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, the rhythm switch. And then I look back and you know his.

[Persephone]

He was smoking a cigarette. I'm out of here.

[Weezy]

Okay. Thank you. I had my first thick girl last year and I'm not gonna hold you. It was me and my boyfriend. When she left, I said, oh, nigga, I understand now. I understand.

[Persephone]

So by had my first thick girl, you mean like you ate, you ate your first thick girl. Fuck it. Okay.

[Weezy]

But like it was so overwhelming to me because I just for one, you have to remember too, if you aren't thick, being with a thick girl makes you feel like, oh shit. Like it just. I was always scared to approach. Cause I'm just like, damn, I got a little bit. Or I think they won't be into me either.

[Persephone]

You were scared to approach?

[Weezy]

Yeah. Cause I'm just thinking like, bitch, you.

[Mandy B.]

Got titties and ass.

[Weezy]

And I don't. So maybe this is what you want. When we was fucking and she turned around and I'm watching her fuck my nigga. I was like, oh, she needs to leave.

[Persephone]

Like, I understand, bitch, you kicked her out for being thick.

[Weezy]

He would always tell me like, yo, my friends used to think I was crazy for going to BBW parties because.

[Persephone]

I was like, no BBW parties. Oh yeah.

[Weezy]

In New York, like they be having club nights.

[Mandy B.]

There's sex clubs and they have BBW nights. I'm going to Jamaica and one of the other groups that's going to be there is ran. One of the other groups is run by a woman named Misty. She does BBW parties throughout, over throughout the country where literally all the women that are at this party are going to be.

[Persephone]

Plus, is there like a weight limit? Do they have like weigh ins and they'll be like, nah, you not 300.

[Mandy B.]

It's crazy because that's actually the first ever sex club I went to. And at the time I was like 230. So I was bigger and I'm five' one. So I was definitely. And I went, I was like, oh.

[Patrick Dencey]

Well, I feel you had to sign paperwork.

[Mandy B.]

Let's be very clear. I felt small there at the AEW party.

[Weezy]

But yeah, I was gonna even say 2:30.

[Persephone]

You sounds like a good time.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, but 230 now. But what's amazing, but girl, you're seven feet tall. Like bitch, I was 230.

[Patrick Dencey]

I was 230 and 202 weeks ago I was 240.

[Mandy B.]

I literally hate the conversations about Women and weight. Because women could be the same exact weight, but depending on the height. It looks so different.

[Persephone]

Damn, it looks so different.

[Patrick Dencey]

When you said 5:1, and you said 2:30, I said, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B.]

But what's amazing about it, though, is the men that go to those parties, you feel like. But you feel desired because the men are there because these are the type of women they have. And a lot of times niggas like big bitches in private, were they.

[Patrick Dencey]

A lot of it was like, really small guys them n be small.

[Mandy B.]

I used to say when I was the biggest bro, all my niggas had, like, eight packs. Like, where. Gym bros. Gym bros love a big. They just do.

[Weezy]

Isn't that the craziest thing?

[Persephone]

No, it's not.

[Weezy]

No, no, no. To me it is because gym bros being so obsessed with themselves. And then you have society shaming women for thinking they're not taking care of themselves, and that's why they're bigger.

[Mandy B.]

But you're.

[Weezy]

You're.

[Persephone]

But you hang out with a big.

[Patrick Dencey]

Girl, that's a cheat day.

[Persephone]

You can have a good cheat day.

[Weezy]

Cheat day.

[Persephone]

I'm just saying, like, why would you. Why would you hang out with a girl who hang. Who is always at the gym with a cheat meal? You hang out and you get some Wendy's and stuff.

[Mandy B.]

Hey, I'm not saying the cheat day is crazy.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Patrick Dencey]

I'm just saying who else would you.

[Mandy B.]

Want to hang out with on those.

[Persephone]

On those days you just said gym rats be, like, stressed out. They always working out. They're always waking up early. You hang out with a big girl. Boom. PF Changs. That's.

[Mandy B.]

That's what you.

[Persephone]

That's what you would want. That's. That's. Your girl's supposed to bring you peace.

[Mandy B.]

You know what?

[Patrick Dencey]

Not a five piece.

[Mandy B.]

I see what you're doing. Peace.

[Patrick Dencey]

PFJ Five piece. As far as what he really means.

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[Persephone]

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[Mandy B.]

Persephone, you have the dare.

[Patrick Dencey]

Okay, and what we need what am I doing with these titties?

[Persephone]

What we need what am I doing with these titties?

[Patrick Dencey]

That's funny.

[Mandy B.]

I Tell me later. What I need you to do right now actually is leave a voice note to one of your partners, your niggas you're fucking and pretty much tell them something sexy and hopefully they respond before the end of the podcast. But I want you to go ahead and voice note something there.

[Patrick Dencey]

Be like, ooh, record it up.

[Mandy B.]

Yes.

[Weezy]

Boop. You know what?

[Patrick Dencey]

Actually, if he got what was my.

[Persephone]

Most awful sexual experience, that was wildly.

[Mandy B.]

Different to make it easier, if you.

[Weezy]

Want, say, I just got dared to do something. I'm gonna choose you. You can say it.

[Mandy B.]

No, that don't make it fun. Say something.

[Patrick Dencey]

I can make a voice note, like, on the voice recorder.

[Persephone]

No, Vee, I don't know why you would say that out loud.

[Weezy]

You ain't getting no dick right now.

[Persephone]

I'm not sure why he would say that.

[Mandy B.]

You ain't got nobody whose dick you sucking right now. That be like, man, I can't wait to put your shit in my mouth again.

[Persephone]

Do y' all leave voice notes like that to, like, who? Y' all for real?

[Mandy B.]

I'll be asking for that nut, man. Like, I miss that for the nut. I text a man, he doing that.

[Persephone]

Straight to the nut.

[Mandy B.]

I would say, I still feel your dick in my stomach. And we. Three weeks ago.

[Persephone]

Okay. I mean, that's just.

[Mandy B.]

Like that.

[Patrick Dencey]

Like that.

[Persephone]

That's better than asking. Just straight up for the nut.

[Weezy]

See, I will say that. And I think I get a little too theatric, because I'd be like, it's still there. Like, I'll start doing this.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, my.

[Persephone]

The cough ruins it. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, the cough is kind of weird. It's like, you okay.

[Patrick Dencey]

Like, you breaking the noodles if I don't do it. Do I have to drink or some. Where's the liqu. Damn, this ain't drink champs, bitch.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, okay.

[Weezy]

Tell us what you said in the last sexy voice message you sent.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Or the last.

[Mandy B.]

What is the last second?

[Weezy]

Give us a dirty text.

[Patrick Dencey]

I. Oh, dirty text. It's just emojis, but I sent. I'll send a picture or something.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, you just send the titties? Yeah. You just said fuck talking. I'm just gonna send them the.

[Patrick Dencey]

I mean, the jokes.

[Persephone]

I think I. I personally would rather that than I think you're nuts to live or whatever the hell you say.

[Mandy B.]

Y. Yeah, the cough was a little crazy, I think.

[Persephone]

Yeah, I think a picture would be. The cough was 100% better, actually. Every time, you know, I want to.

[Weezy]

Ask something that I feel like is ruining the mood, but I have to know, is it almost overwhelming by how many niggas want to talk about your titties? Like, is it just, like, does it ever get annoying to the point where you're then actually turned off? Because every man that's getting a chance to be with you, this, to me, is just on their mind, right?

[Mandy B.]

And you know it.

[Weezy]

It's like a girl with a crazy fat ass. They know it but does it just make you feel like a little too objectified to where you're. You're done?

[Mandy B.]

No.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, because I. I went through a little phase where I was just like, okay, all you under some hat. Titties, you know? But then I got to the point where I was just like, these are amazing. People love this. Like, why would I be like, you want this? You. Why would I shame somebody for wanting this when I not shaming them Find it.

[Weezy]

You feeling away?

[Patrick Dencey]

No, not anymore.

[Weezy]

Good.

[Mandy B.]

They don't hurt. Like, they don't. They're not heavy.

[Patrick Dencey]

They pull my shoulders.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah. So I have. Because, like, my bro shoulders like traps is. Are amazing.

[Mandy B.]

My breasts aren't even close to the size of yours, but I'm still a double D. I want them gone. Like they. They especially like every fucking cycle. My tits hurt so bad and because of the weight, like, they just hurt when I walk. I can't run. And I don't like wearing bras. I'm like, I don't need titties. And I like. To me also, do you get more white men? And I say this only because black men could give a fuck about titties.

[Weezy]

Except when they look like this.

[Patrick Dencey]

But other things.

[Weezy]

When did we get that?

[Patrick Dencey]

When did that start?

[Weezy]

Black men in the room, father's in the home.

[Persephone]

I feel like that's like a. That's a thought from the 80s that.

[Mandy B.]

Carried over, I guess, when. I guess as a. Who's always been more like people spent more time on my lower half. The niggas that fuck me like thick thighs and like ass.

[Weezy]

But maybe so, because. So your best asset normally is.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, no, I feel like my tits. No, no, no.

[Weezy]

I'm saying white women generally have big tits and no ass. Black women are going to have ass also. If you.

[Persephone]

If you fucking with a girl who doesn't have titties, you're not going to talk about titties a lot. Why would you make her feel like shit? You're going to be like, yeah, I like asses. You know what I mean?

[Weezy]

Why would you.

[Mandy B.]

Your Your own.

[Weezy]

I just feel like I've always had.

[Mandy B.]

Ass entities and this is not. And I've only black guys. I've never. White guys, but they've never been like, you know, just thought about my titties.

[Persephone]

I have a theory that that came from, like, the Baywatch era when white women had big fake boobs but also.

[Weezy]

Having big tits and no ass.

[Persephone]

So then that's why I feel like it was split down the middle because white Women had big boobs and no ass.

[Patrick Dencey]

So they were just like, okay, I've had titties as long as I can remember. Like I was a C cup in the seventh grade. Well, and then it just got bigger and bigger.

[Mandy B.]

So I'm going to jump real quick then to our pain section to ask you this question. So have your tits ever been. Been a hazard or obstacle to somebody?

[Weezy]

Like a hazard when you're out? Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Like, like, like have they ever slapped someone in the face? Have. Has someone also intentionally?

[Patrick Dencey]

Yes.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Patrick Dencey]

Unintentionally, no.

[Mandy B.]

But intentionally, you swing those things.

[Persephone]

That's a misdemeanor.

[Weezy]

Patrick, as friends.

[Persephone]

That'S what the show is.

[Weezy]

Could a thing you date Patrick be like, you better go look at this bitch. Titties for two hours. And it's been too.

[Persephone]

I'm professional.

[Patrick Dencey]

I love that the comments under everything is. I don't know how he does it. How can he.

[Weezy]

It's just crazy.

[Patrick Dencey]

Every post. How does he sit there for so long? I'm like, he sees him so often.

[Persephone]

Like, how would we ever get a show off the ground? If I was just like, what are we talking about? Like, what do they, what do they.

[Mandy B.]

Want from A lot of us men have no discernment or self control. And I guess that that's what they're saying.

[Persephone]

But I don't, I don't get why that would even be like, I don't understand.

[Patrick Dencey]

Like, because I'll tell you, I'll tell you why. Because a lot of times when I do this is overwhelming for people who are not used to it. You're used to it. You see me all the time.

[Persephone]

You just imagine like people that are not. Every episode I have a panic attack after the intro.

[Patrick Dencey]

I have been in situations where guys have just not been able to say anything to me. They just look and I'm like, huh.

[Weezy]

Tell me what it's like. Like, what's been the weirdest reaction you've got from a guy in the street? That just like, because you don't only have big breasts, you have a stallion stature and you're pretty on top of the titties. Because I've seen pretty on top of titties.

[Mandy B.]

It's pretty on top of it.

[Persephone]

That's a good hoodie.

[Weezy]

Right on top.

[Persephone]

It's a solid hoodie.

[Weezy]

You look at it. Oh, look at her face.

[Patrick Dencey]

I think the weirdest thing is when someone has asked to touch them.

[Mandy B.]

Yes.

[Patrick Dencey]

And I'm like, yeah.

[Mandy B.]

What the.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Patrick Dencey]

I'm like, no. Like, okay, can I have A hug? No, I don't know you. Hugs. Can I touch them? And are they real?

[Mandy B.]

I just, I mean, they look. Come on. Those look. They're real.

[Weezy]

They're very.

[Patrick Dencey]

They'll not say hi to me. You know how, like if you have a dog and you walk with the dog, people will just be like, hey, dog. You know, that's how.

[Mandy B.]

Now they go and straight talk to your kid.

[Patrick Dencey]

They'll be like, are they real? Can I touch them? And I'm like, hey, guy, my face look up here.

[Mandy B.]

Oh.

[Patrick Dencey]

And I'm like, no.

[Weezy]

Do they just fight? Ready to fight all the time?

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, because I mean, they don't have to. Like, most of the people that approach me are just like people that are like fans of the lesbian homie or the show Thick threads, his fans, you know.

[Weezy]

But you also have big social media too. So it's like when someone's. And to be real with you, my friends that are models without cities, skinny, the 90 pound girls. I've seen people approach them like that. Like, I've seen the same thing when someone is above average or just. It's like they're almost used to it. Which is why I'm saying, are you ever sick of being too hot?

[Patrick Dencey]

But I guess not. No, Ann, I don't go out. I don't go out too much. I'll be in high.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, because of your titties?

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, no. I'm saying I be in the house.

[Persephone]

The titties lock the door.

[Mandy B.]

You feel like you can't be out in the world.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, no. But when I do go out, you should see, like if I'm just running an errand, I don't look like me. You wouldn't think I for real look like Queen Latifah and set it off. I'd be looking like Cleo. Like, I'll go with my braids, my under the wig braids, my hoodie. And then like I could wear big ass hoodies. So I'll wear like a size 2X hoodie. So then my titties take my waistline away. So then I just look like, you know, so they really don't know that it's me.

[Weezy]

They think you a student. Do you date women? Mm mm, okay. Cause you said the lesbian homies.

[Patrick Dencey]

I was like trying to recruit me.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Persephone]

She's like, that was the point of this whole feature.

[Patrick Dencey]

Why do you think you're here, bro?

[Weezy]

Since starting doing episodes in la, my boyfriend has asked about two women. It was Anna Fox, the porn star. And when I Said.

[Persephone]

I said solid porn name. Oh, Anna Fox.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, she's, she's.

[Weezy]

And y' all look totally different. Super tiny, dark skinned woman, very natural looking. And you are very natural looking too. And when I said thick dreads. Oh, let's get into pleasure.

[Mandy B.]

All right, so for pleasure, I have a clip and I want to ask Yalls thoughts on it, especially not sure what your relationship status is currently, but this comes from Scott Evans, who I love, and this is what it is.

[Persephone]

Your honor, my client would like to open their relationship because their sexual needs are just not being met in the current dynamic.

[Mandy B.]

Well, what I'm gonna say to that is if the partner is willing, go for it. If they're not, go get you somebody who is. Huh?

[Persephone]

That's a ruler right there.

[Mandy B.]

You can't stay where you're not being satisfied.

[Persephone]

Hello.

[Mandy B.]

You just can't.

[Persephone]

But also, you gotta let people know they're in an open relationship. You can't just be here. No, no, no, no. You can't be on the slick stuff. No, you gotta let people know.

[Patrick Dencey]

Let people know.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, it's three of us in here.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, it's four.

[Mandy B.]

How many of us is in here? Because you know what? I tell you, I found out how many of us is in here because I found out early on, I don't mind you doing whatever you want to do, but don't do it. And I don't know because then I could have been out doing something. Okay, so two questions here. Do you believe that you can actually be in a relationship with someone who doesn't sexually fulfill you? That's the first question. Second question is, if that person doesn't sexually fulfill you, do you think the answer is to have an open relationship? And would you guys be in such. Because you could still love everything else about that person.

[Persephone]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

But let's go with that.

[Patrick Dencey]

I'll go, um, no, no, you can't be in it.

[Mandy B.]

You can't be in a relationship with someone who doesn't sexually fulfill sex.

[Patrick Dencey]

And you know, I used to think, oh, yes, you can. Cause it's about more than sex.

[Mandy B.]

Which it is.

[Patrick Dencey]

It is about more than sex. But I've been in the situation before, and sexually we were incompatible. And it actually messed up the intimacy, the romance and the attraction. So it kind of like just blossomed from. And then it created insecurities. So it was just a.

[Weezy]

What was the best part of the relationship? How did it keep blasting past it?

[Patrick Dencey]

We were good friends. Oh, yeah, we were.

[Weezy]

She had a connection.

[Patrick Dencey]

We were very, very good. Friends for a long time before we decided to date. And then when we dated, it just all fell apart.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I ain't gonna lie. Any of my homeboys who actually may have got to fuck, if we're friends now, it's because it was bad. Like, you know what I mean?

[Persephone]

Like, if got a trial period.

[Mandy B.]

Listen, oh, baby, it didn't happen. Don't you ever tell anyone that happened. Because it didn't.

[Patrick Dencey]

It didn't.

[Mandy B.]

Like, if I am able to still be friends with a nigga that I fucked, it's because the sex was bad and we're just gonna be friends. It can't be nothing more because then there's times where you might fuck someone and only really like them because the sex is good. I think a lot of women trick themselves to liking ain't shit niggas because the dick be good, man.

[Patrick Dencey]

Boy. Homosexual hobosexual.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, no, no, no.

[Persephone]

I don't think I trolled it.

[Weezy]

Why do y' all do think the dick is good and it makes it acceptable?

[Patrick Dencey]

It's like rich dick never had a homosexual.

[Mandy B.]

First off, as a grown ass adult.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, there's no way you need to go down.

[Mandy B.]

I'm saying as a grown ass adult, once I've gotten to money. No, like, even let's be very clear. If I went down and wanted to, like, fuck niggas that weren't, like, famous, then I have my corporate niggas, and then I went to sex workers and they make money.

[Patrick Dencey]

So I.

[Weezy]

He went back 247 when he was broke.

[Mandy B.]

He was a rapper. What I'm saying is. And you never had a rapper, but also 23 years old. I'm talking about since I've had money.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, no, no, no, no.

[Weezy]

You look like the woman selling your life.

[Persephone]

You can't just ignore everything before that.

[Mandy B.]

I'm gonna talk about when I was 22, 23 years old.

[Patrick Dencey]

It's part of your life.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no, no. So. So again you trying to say when I moved on from it, I didn't do it at all as a grown ass woman. And I referenced myself as a grown ass woman. Not having roommates, finally being financially stable. The fact that you had to go to a n. I F. CKed at 23. My point, in case I'm not fucking broke niggas right now. So to me, an ain't shit nigga is a liar, a cheater, a nigga who be like a nigga who ain't good for you. A nigga who might actually have two or three girlfriends and he lying about it. To me, an ancient nigga just ain't a hobosexual or someone who's broke. I know y' all love these broke men. Kudos to y'. All. I don't get it. I don't know what broke dick is. I love that y' all love it.

[Patrick Dencey]

But no, no, you think you're misunderstanding because we're talking about the same thing. The hobosexual was not in the last five or 10 years. We talking about the fact that you've experienced it because period. So Whether it was 15 years ago.

[Weezy]

I think that is part of the conversation, though. Like, we could all get on a high horse of, no, I would never. But, like, when you had it, that motherfucker was good.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah. The homosexual dick. I'm saying it be good is they be fighting for their lives sometimes.

[Mandy B.]

He wasn't fighting for his life. I would say the dicks I get. Which is funny because I just saw this, like, meme that had like, nine to fiver, billionaire, millionaire, scammer, drug dealer, and it had cucumbers and eggplants all next to it for the sizes of their dicks. And the idea that niggas with money got these small dicks. Again, I'm blessed. God's chosen. Whatever you want to say. I have really good experience with niggas with money and good ass dick. To where I'm like, bro, you're not supposed to be good looking, rich and have this good dick. What the fuck? Like, this is not supposed to happen.

[Weezy]

Pose a question to you. We, the broke bitches be having duplicates.

[Mandy B.]

Oh.

[Weezy]

Because with us, I know you hear that women say all the time, bro, niggas be having good dick.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, it's a trope.

[Weezy]

Is it the same for the girls? That might just be.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. I mean, I don't know.

[Persephone]

I just don't know if we think of it like that. Cause I mean, like.

[Weezy]

Or maybe like, she ain't got much.

[Mandy B.]

Going on in life.

[Persephone]

Cause I mean, like, if you think about it, like, especially now, 80% of the women we see on social media be acting broke as hell. Even if they have their own money, they just move broke now. I mean, it's just like a whole.

[Mandy B.]

Like every.

[Persephone]

Every conversation is like, not my money.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Persephone]

Every conversation is like, what am I getting out of this? Am I. Am I getting paid? Am I. There was like a. A clip going around because these girls were like, at. On a yacht and they were, like, playing music and they're like, why aren't y' all like, dancing. They're like, oh, yeah, that's another thousand. Like, wait, it's like. It's like, so transactional. Women are flying out to Dubai and getting boo booed on and coming back with 50k. Like, that's broke shit.

[Patrick Dencey]

So, yeah, I'm assuming that I mean broke.

[Persephone]

The Getting boo booed on for money. Yeah, that's pretty broke.

[Patrick Dencey]

Now let's maybe.

[Persephone]

Are we. Are we serious? Wait, wait, wait.

[Weezy]

I'm going to tell you right now.

[Persephone]

We'Re seriously stopping figures that you tell.

[Weezy]

Me you got a hunt for a little poop.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I'm shitting on you. 50 grand as a rich bitch or a broke bitch. What are we talking.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, no. Getting shit on. Yeah, not on them.

[Persephone]

Well, then, no, no, I was pretty clear. Getting boo booed on.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah, I think you guys, I'm into king.

[Persephone]

Hey, my point. My point was proven immediately.

[Mandy B.]

Why?

[Persephone]

That's. Because that's wild to me. It's.

[Mandy B.]

But it's weird for me that even that idea, like, only because, like.

[Patrick Dencey]

And bringing back the.

[Mandy B.]

You said poo poo. Well, now I'm gonna bring up the pagan. I hate that people would come to me and ask me why I'm not charging niggas to peg them. Like, there's certain things where as long. What do you mean? Like, for me, just bringing up that isn't broke people's shit.

[Patrick Dencey]

Why aren't you.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, like, why aren't you charging for it? Like, I mean, if they're able to get that for 50 grand, I don't think that's broke people's shit. I think if they can make money and do something.

[Patrick Dencey]

Do you think that if they had a significant amount of money in their bank account, they would still.

[Mandy B.]

That's what we just said.

[Weezy]

I'm telling you right now, we just get shit on. We are New York Times bestsellers. I own a lot of businesses and I do well, I'm like, you tell me, how much is it?

[Mandy B.]

I could get 50 grand right now. That's a down payment.

[Patrick Dencey]

I saw a video recently about broke.

[Weezy]

Shit, though, so that might be.

[Persephone]

Yeah, that's maybe why I wasn't talking about sex work.

[Patrick Dencey]

That is, if they're going, I think.

[Weezy]

Like, the kinky shit, the sex work. But I'm also probably on another level of like, sexual liberation, obviously, because I'm talking about every day, so I'm not looking at shit as crazy as you are.

[Patrick Dencey]

I saw literally shit. I saw a video recently where the girl talked about her homegirl going out to Dubai to get shit on. And it wasn't just one dude shitting on him. It was a row of niggas. Like, 10 niggas standing in a row waiting. And then she came back with 30 to 50k for that. And I'm like, 10 niggas shitting on you in one setting? Like, what did they eat first?

[Mandy B.]

Because I don't mind the solid.

[Patrick Dencey]

Why. So talk about. It's going to be Spicy.

[Weezy]

I think 100 to have one shit is not. I literally, I'm telling you right now, this entire. Mandy, too, y' all give me a hundred thousand dollars.

[Persephone]

Okay, well, that's wild.

[Mandy B.]

I'll take gym, bro. Because that's, like. It'd be solid.

[Persephone]

Oh, my God. So you have to give him a survey of his diet.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

We'Re just done.

[Mandy B.]

That's it.

[Persephone]

No, I mean, that's chill. No, I mean, I'm.

[Mandy B.]

I'm not gonna.

[Persephone]

I'm not gonna kink.

[Patrick Dencey]

As long as they had a lot of fiber.

[Weezy]

Okay, okay.

[Patrick Dencey]

As long as they got a lot.

[Weezy]

Of fiber, like, I'm just a hot celebrity. I don't know.

[Persephone]

No, I know where this is going.

[Weezy]

No, no, no.

[Patrick Dencey]

You don't pick Rihanna. It's. It's. It's the Ruby Rose.

[Persephone]

Oh, now. Now. Yeah. No.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Persephone]

I didn't have a problem with the woman you selected.

[Weezy]

She's coming to you with the money, and none of us know about it. Just the people.

[Patrick Dencey]

And now they have secret.

[Weezy]

No, you would not take a quarter million dollars by Ruby Rose shitting on you.

[Persephone]

No, probably not.

[Patrick Dencey]

250,000.

[Persephone]

I just. It's the shit part. You guys keep changing the woman in the price. It's the shit part. If you change that part, I might be in.

[Weezy]

But what if it's on your stomach? It's just a quick shit on your stomach.

[Mandy B.]

That's it. What if it's on your foot?

[Patrick Dencey]

250K is. That's. That's.

[Persephone]

Beat it into him now we go.

[Mandy B.]

Man, I ain't going 250k. Him, his daddy, his son, all of them at the same time can shit on me.

[Persephone]

Are you adding shit? Bring in your whole family. We don't have to do that.

[Weezy]

One of the games we play on this podcast, whenever we be, like, judging shit, and it's not even a real game we play, we just be hearing. And then we be like, ugh. And then we're like, all right, well, how much did you do it for? Because I genuinely think on some Fear Factor shit. Because think about how gross I actually could get on easier than I could go into like some cockroach room for an hour.

[Mandy B.]

Facts.

[Weezy]

That's crazy.

[Mandy B.]

Facts. Oh my God.

[Weezy]

You would rather do 30 minutes in a room of cockroaches for 250 than.

[Persephone]

Have Ruby Rose on you for 250,000.

[Mandy B.]

You are out of here. Yeah, get the out.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, no.

[Persephone]

Being around creepy crawlies is a little bit above getting shit on for me.

[Weezy]

Hold on. I need everybody in the room.

[Patrick Dencey]

I'm not. I'm not.

[Mandy B.]

No. I don't like bugs.

[Weezy]

You are Ruby roses.

[Mandy B.]

You taking bugs over ruby roses?

[Patrick Dencey]

But they're guys. Guys like bugs.

[Persephone]

We don't like roaches for six year olds.

[Mandy B.]

Give me the money. I'm wiping that.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, bro, you can shower. The thing about bugs is they get in your hair.

[Mandy B.]

I was looking at it like they gonna be climbing.

[Patrick Dencey]

They climb 250, 000.

[Persephone]

I thought the whole thing was like, it's a lot of money for something crazy.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah. Which that both of them are crazy. So it's like you got to pick one of the craziest.

[Weezy]

You know what's so crazy? Joe Rogan. We're on a podcast knowing Joe Rogan was doing that. And now how the fuck was that? Nigga, laugh. Remember when they used to have the animal testicles in the tube? I was watching that on Joe Rogan's podcast. Joe Rogan was the host of Earth Actor.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, yeah.

[Persephone]

Yeah.

[Patrick Dencey]

Okay.

[Persephone]

For sure.

[Weezy]

It's just so crazy to think you went from that shit to fucking podcasting.

[Persephone]

Right? Buff as hell at the podcast table.

[Mandy B.]

Well. And wrestling. He was. He was into wrestling.

[Persephone]

Yeah. He's like a big ufc.

[Mandy B.]

He's a big UFC guy before he's new.

[Weezy]

Fear factor.

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[Patrick Dencey]

CTNC's 21/ now the clip that we.

[Weezy]

Were talking about, the thread, the Twitter thread that Mandy found yesterday was.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, wait, wait. I have to. I have to get dressed for this.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, outfit change.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

She said, I see why they like your ass.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, is that a Quaker wig?

[Mandy B.]

Yes.

[Weezy]

So we have a new segment, y', all, called Homie Court.

[Persephone]

You should have just done the whole episode like this and not told us why until now. Should have just did the whole thing like this.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, I'm the judge here. Okay. Introduce the segment.

[Patrick Dencey]

So this is not a safe space like George Washington.

[Weezy]

Home to Court is our new segment where we basically are taking the person that we are watching in the clip to court and you will see who is.

[Mandy B.]

We need to know who is guilty and of what crime. Let's do it now this, most of them, there's a man and there's a woman. And so we need to see who is more guilty and who Deserves more time for whatever crime we have decided they have come to.

[Weezy]

That wig when you bought it, I just want to know the very girl.

[Mandy B.]

This is Amazon. It came out of the stank, girl.

[Persephone]

There's no way it was over $10.

[Weezy]

That's what I was thinking. Was it?

[Mandy B.]

Actually, no. I ain't gonna hold you. That wig go over because it came with this and it came with a little top and glasses. Bitch. This was $40, but it was on the business, so it was 40. Just letting you know. Okay, so I'm going to play this clip. I know, right? Well, $39.99. So here we go.

[TikTok Woman]

TikTok, I need your help. I need to find out who this lady is because she needs to know the kind of monster she married on Saturday, July 26, in Fairfax, Virginia. This is Frank Arnold, and I have been seeing him consistently for the past year up until 4am on Saturday morning when he dropped me off at my house after spending the night with me. So imagine my surprise when I go online and I see a video that his friend posted of Arnold getting married after he had just been telling me he wanted to have a child with me. I had no idea he had a whole fiance. That's her name and that's his name. They ended up going to the club after the wedding. Weird. He doesn't even look like he's enjoying himself. This is the demon that calls himself a man of God. That's him calling me Saturday at noon to tell me he was going to the dentist, when in reality, he was on his way to his wedding. These are random videos of me always at his house with timestamps. Him always asking to hang out with me. Two weeks ago, he went to Miami for a supposedly birthday party. Turns out it was his bachelor party with strippers included. As soon as he landed, he came to pick me up to spend the night with him. Where was his fiance? His friends and family know about this and they are enabling this behavior. I have known this man for six years, and I never thought he would do this to me. TikTok, help me find her so she can find out.

[Weezy]

I think she was.

[Persephone]

She was venting. Most of that was venting.

[Weezy]

Well, she.

[Patrick Dencey]

Assault.

[Mandy B.]

So. So there's two things here.

[Patrick Dencey]

That's how salt.

[Mandy B.]

Clearly he is guilty of cheating. We know that.

[Patrick Dencey]

Well.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, oh, wait. Okay, look, he's not guilty of cheating.

[Patrick Dencey]

Boy, Nash.

[Persephone]

She could have been his dentist. Think about it.

[Mandy B.]

No, I'm. I'm talking. What did that be?

[Weezy]

Dentist.

[Patrick Dencey]

What if she was his dentist?

[Persephone]

He said I'm going to. To the dentist.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, what if his fiance was his dentist?

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, why?

[Persephone]

You know, we. I'm just saying, innocent until proven guilty.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, it's pretty much.

[Mandy B.]

No, this. Wait, wait, wait, wait. You think he is still innocent and did not cheat on.

[Persephone]

I mean, he wasn't married yet.

[Weezy]

Okay, can I tell you one thing that I thought was crazy?

[Mandy B.]

So you're single until you're married.

[Persephone]

I'm just kidding.

[Weezy]

One of my homeboys.

[Persephone]

I'm gonna try to defend it.

[Weezy]

The girl's not in the video. So basically one of my homeboys, like, the girl's never in the video. They have no pictures together. But she talked about a six year relationship. That's kind of crazy. And then I was like, okay, I'm not gonna hold you. That's a fair point.

[Persephone]

Well, she just didn't put it in the montage.

[Weezy]

Yeah, but there's videos of him. But no, she's.

[Mandy B.]

And time codes and stamps of like, she.

[Weezy]

All she could have done was change that contact's name.

[Mandy B.]

I ain't gonna lie.

[Patrick Dencey]

She to me looked like a nice.

[Mandy B.]

Wedding, is guilty of being a dumb ass bitch and not taking this to the grave.

[Weezy]

No, that is stupid.

[Patrick Dencey]

Bro.

[Mandy B.]

We done already fucked with nigga. Like, we done all kind of been with a guy who lied about what his real situation was. Bro, to me doing this, like, do you think this woman is about to leave?

[Weezy]

But this is how I knew she was a dodo bird when she's. Cause even you know, in some people's inflection when they're talking, you're like, oh, you are a little.

[Mandy B.]

And then not. You calling her slow, bitch.

[Weezy]

He went to a birthday party with strippers included.

[Persephone]

Well, she might be.

[Mandy B.]

Because that's.

[Patrick Dencey]

That's when I thought like, okay, there's some feelings in here.

[Mandy B.]

So for sure, she's not even having fun.

[Weezy]

He's having fun in the club.

[Patrick Dencey]

And what I do know is that when you're in a situation, you're dealing with someone that you want to trust, that sometimes you don't do your research until you really start feeling a certain type of way or something happens. So she might have been on some like. Let me say it. You do what you do, you know, you got to go to the dentist. Oh, have a good appointment, you know. And then when she saw that she crashed out the wedding. She crashed out and then did her research and start. Cause you know how once you find out, then you back date.

[Mandy B.]

This is a. This is a real life thing. Like, my homegirl was Dating a guy for a whole year. They went to Jamaica, they went to here, they went to there, they traveled together. He was at her house every week. Every week. This nigga lied. Said he lived in New York. This nigga lived 40 minutes away with his wife.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, shit.

[Mandy B.]

And mind you, it took a year. And the only reason why she was like, wait, this ain't really adding up is because Christmas came around, they were supposed to come to New York, they didn't. Then Valentine's Day came around. He couldn't do Valentine's Day. So she's like, bro, just something's not right. Like, we've been at this for a year. I said, girl, you worth $10. Got on white pages and found an address that I was like, bitch, this is Canton, Georgia. It's. She looked up the address, she hopped in the car in Friday traffic, went. And the wife answered the door, and it was just like this, man, literally.

[Weezy]

What did you say when the wife opened the door?

[Mandy B.]

Oh, she turned to a Florida bitch.

[Persephone]

Doordash.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no, listen, article. Listen, Florida woman, listen, right? It's always gonna be. But also, like, I don't really wish. He lied about a whole nother child. He said he only had one. He had two. Like, so I can fully believe that there are women that can date men, especially. Cause we have to remember, too, when people don't live together, sometimes seeing someone three, four days a week is enough is enough. And there's enough times to where especially the panorama got niggas now doing, what is it, hybrid work environments. So a nigga that used to have to work at home all the time, now I gotta go into the office. A motherfucker could literally have a whole other relationship and make it work.

[Patrick Dencey]

And you won't find out unless you've stopped trusting that person. Like, you won't. As soon as you stop trusting that person and you decide to go look at they stories and start looking at just anything that they say. I caught.

[Mandy B.]

I caught my small story time.

[Patrick Dencey]

This is the worst relationship I've ever been in. I caught him because when we left, he left my dorm and me and my friends were going out to the club. And so we all, we followed because the club was right by the freeway. This nigga went north and he was supposed to go south. Yo, shame on the freeway. And I said, why the fuck did you go north? And then I found out because his. The. The girl he was cheating on me with was in San Bernardino. I mean, Santa Barbara.

[Persephone]

Wow.

[Patrick Dencey]

And he was supposed to be going to la if you leave in the.

[Persephone]

Valley, you don't go to la.

[Patrick Dencey]

Taking the one on one north.

[Mandy B.]

He shared his location with you and.

[Persephone]

No, they were behind him.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, we were going to the club. The club was right off the freeway. So you left the place at the same time. I said, oh, this nigga went Jason Bourne ass story.

[Mandy B.]

This is crazy. She puts her eyes.

[Patrick Dencey]

This is the smallest thing. You trust him until you.

[Weezy]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Mandy B.]

How long did you follow him for? Did you.

[Patrick Dencey]

I didn't follow at all.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, you just saw he was going.

[Patrick Dencey]

I just saw.

[Weezy]

Long accident.

[Patrick Dencey]

I just asked him. But you know what he was saying.

[Mandy B.]

He was going to get gassed.

[Weezy]

I made a wrong turn.

[Patrick Dencey]

He said I had to go to my grandmother's house dying.

[Weezy]

No, he didn'.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yes, and I need to take care of her for the weekend.

[Persephone]

Bro. Pulled out the dying grandma card.

[Mandy B.]

Here's the thing too.

[Weezy]

I hope she did already. Cause killing off grandma, Jesus, is he so bad?

[Patrick Dencey]

And his grandma, she lived in la.

[Persephone]

So that didn't even make sense.

[Mandy B.]

But let me ask you this before this, because a lot of times, a lot of times when we are dating guys and even in this instance, right, I'm gonna say she's more guilty of being Delulu than he is of cheating. Because as a. Let me hear me out.

[Persephone]

That's crazy.

[Mandy B.]

As a woman, when you really. The way you said that. There's clear emotions there because she's hurting. As a woman, there's a lot of red flags we choose to ignore. And again, like you said, it's not until we stop trusting that person that then we really start being more intuitive. And we know we would've. Lying ass, cheating ass nigga. My ex was retired, okay?

[Patrick Dencey]

Retired cheater.

[Mandy B.]

Well, no, no, he was tired. He was all.

[Patrick Dencey]

He's like 50.

[Weezy]

Retired.

[Mandy B.]

Career, right?

[Weezy]

Clarification.

[Mandy B.]

While we were.

[Patrick Dencey]

He was 50 dot.

[Mandy B.]

While we were together. I remember him going to Panama and I was like, okay, I believed that he was going to Panama for suits. Now what do you need suits for? Maybe because he went to so many funerals and like, literally the lies that he had.

[Persephone]

Yeah, he ain't that old.

[Mandy B.]

You can't. Well, his career. A lot of people, like, he's retired firefighters, so firefighters, I guess, die every weekend. This nigga was using funerals and going to God. I swear to God, a nigga I date now can't have more than three funerals he go to or we not dating no more. At this point, N is dying around you. You are.

[Weezy]

Wait, you never went to one.

[Mandy B.]

Never went to one funeral.

[Weezy]

Did he Never invite. So he never invited.

[Mandy B.]

Never even mind you. You can't ask to see the body. You can't ask for the thing for the funeral. When someone goes to a funeral, you just gotta allow them to mourn.

[Patrick Dencey]

And they invite you. They invite you. But you can't be a large captain.

[Mandy B.]

Can I come to the funeral?

[Persephone]

Plus one.

[Mandy B.]

I don't wanna go to funerals. This shit be sad. So it was never something I wanted to do with him. But also, I'm like, this nigga's going all the way to Panama for suits. And I believed it.

[Persephone]

Well, in high school, do they have good suits there?

[Mandy B.]

He said there was a tailor there that made these great suits.

[Persephone]

I mean, a Panamanian suit sound kind of fly, though.

[Mandy B.]

And guess what? I believed him.

[Persephone]

I feel like that's a good.

[Mandy B.]

And then, of course, in hindsight, I.

[Persephone]

Mean, I feel like that could be true, though.

[Weezy]

And then if you're in a relationship, wouldn't you think for a second, I'm gonna go to Panama to get these suits?

[Mandy B.]

Come with me.

[Weezy]

There's a beach.

[Mandy B.]

It's Panama. I mean, maybe it's like in a.

[Patrick Dencey]

Suit type, but if she's talking about funerals, it's kind of like, do I want to say, like, oh, it's beautiful out there. Let's enjoy. For funeral.

[Persephone]

Oh, no, the funeral wasn't out there. The suits were out.

[Mandy B.]

Suits. The suit. The suits were out there, but the.

[Persephone]

Funeral was where y' all were at.

[Mandy B.]

The suits were out.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yes. Okay, so.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, local. Almost every other weekend. And I'm just like, this was this many.

[Weezy]

Wait, almost every other bro.

[Mandy B.]

There was a lot of funerals, like, firefighters, though. We were together for 30 years. I mean, 30 years. Three years, I'm saying. So over the course of three years, there was a lot of fucking funerals.

[Weezy]

How many people? Average?

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I don't. I think maybe a quarter or a month.

[Patrick Dencey]

Did he tell you a quarter? Like a funeral?

[Mandy B.]

Who?

[Patrick Dencey]

It was like, oh, yeah, it was.

[Mandy B.]

One of the neighborhood of firefighters.

[Persephone]

You said four a month every week.

[Weezy]

No, no, no, no, no, no.

[Mandy B.]

I would say probably he was going to at least a funeral a month.

[Persephone]

Dead homies. I feel like that's. That's. You can't really not trust them because it's like, you a firefighter, you a hero. You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy B.]

Exactly.

[Persephone]

Was he cremated?

[Weezy]

Well, there's one question I have about your home. Homegirl. Because I think when it comes to women that are dating, like, they're like, oh, no, this is a dude I'm dating. This is him. What about the accessibility to getting on the phone? Like, how often would they be on the phone?

[Patrick Dencey]

Not at night time.

[Persephone]

Oh, you have a funny story about that often.

[Weezy]

How, though? Like, wait, you.

[Mandy B.]

You was. You was getting on the phone with a. With a nightly or not nightly?

[Weezy]

No.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, to me at night.

[Mandy B.]

Well, let's be very clear.

[Patrick Dencey]

I was aware.

[Mandy B.]

Well, she's learned now, too. Like, she's like, a lot of my friends are heavily on the dating apps. And, boy, if that's not the number one determination of if a man has somebody. If a man only calls you during the day or in the mornings or during his lunch breaks, and you never speak to that man at night.

[Weezy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mandy B.]

How many other indicator.

[Patrick Dencey]

In the car. He always FaceTimed me when he was in the car.

[Persephone]

Nigga was always in transit.

[Mandy B.]

He was always in the car. Wait, you never saw a cow?

[Patrick Dencey]

So this is a guy that I dated. No, I did not see him at home. And everything was. We weren't in a relationship. It was somebody that I was just talking to at the time, and I was just like. And this. I didn't know he had a chick. This is a different person. I did not know he had a chick, but I was just like, why are you always in the car?

[Mandy B.]

Like, did he, like, was he a truck driver, an Uber driver?

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, he was in his personal vehicle. And so after everything was said and done, I was like. I realized it, and I was like, nigga, why was you even talking to me?

[Mandy B.]

Like, did you ask? Like, did you. When did you.

[Patrick Dencey]

Like, yeah, you know?

[Weezy]

So you know how I knew a nigga was on vacation with a bitch once? This one. Deep cut, y'. All. So a nigga going on a trip, they say it was boys, whatever it is, right? We were talking every morning, but he would only call me in the gym.

[Persephone]

To be fair. These are solid phone places. The car and the car and the gym, These are places you focus.

[Weezy]

Because he was on vacation talking to people. He couldn't talk to me in the gym, and he couldn't talk to me in the room. And then when he was out, I'm assuming he's doing shit with his homeboys. But then it started to hit me. Like, it's the third day he called me the gym. This is the only place he's escaping her.

[Persephone]

I mean, the treadmills are boring. Sometimes you want somebody to talk to.

[Weezy]

I don't feel like working out and you leave. So then. And I was like, oh, my God.

[Mandy B.]

I'm not gonna lie.

[Weezy]

I don't know what the room looks like. Do you know what he did?

[Patrick Dencey]

He took pictures. Oh, yeah.

[Weezy]

Pictures, Videos.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I'm not gonna hold you. That's why out of this story and for any women listening, y' all know the red flags. You choose to ignore it. There's no way you didn't know this nigga didn't have a fiance. I don't care how many times a day he saw you didn't. There were clear signs.

[Patrick Dencey]

We believed the bullshit, though, so we've all talked about believing the bullshit. Yeah, she's just where we were.

[Mandy B.]

Delulu, she's guilty.

[Weezy]

I ain't never been raised.

[Persephone]

She's more guil.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, but we know these n be cheating. So to me, he's just a man. To me, she is in a space of delusion with a man that probably wasn't even giving. She was accepting crumbs. She was probably not. There was. You ain't telling me that a year, but known him for six, and you didn't know that he was Bitch. Have you just been following him online for six years? And maybe he didn't post this bitch?

[Weezy]

How do you know he said he ain't got his.

[Mandy B.]

How do you know somebody's going to the dentist? And then what I also didn't like about it is here's the other thing I didn't like. She done dragged now the friends and family in that shit she said, and they all enabled him and knew about me, and they didn't.

[Weezy]

There's another thing that I'm curious about too. Okay. Have you ever had. I've had a woman call me. I've never done the call.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I don't do the calling.

[Weezy]

Have you ever done the call a woman?

[Mandy B.]

A woman Bitch, why the fuck I.

[Persephone]

Came to you woman to woman? Did it start like that?

[Mandy B.]

This is Shirley.

[Persephone]

It started like that.

[Patrick Dencey]

It was before that was the thing.

[Mandy B.]

How. No, before it was ever. That was in the 80s.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, before it was like social media, woman to woman type shit. I had already done that. I was like, oh, shit.

[Weezy]

How did you do.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, what made you call the woman?

[Patrick Dencey]

The horrible relationship that I talked about.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Patrick Dencey]

So I called and I was like, look, because this was so the first time I found the first girl I found out was because of the north and south. So I found out about. And then I started doing my research, and I have a degree in criminal justice, and I used it for this talk. So I started looking through his. I went through his. I went through his Craigslist, his Craigslist search history. Guys, I went through Craigslist. I found out some shit on Craigslist.

[Persephone]

What?

[Mandy B.]

You from Craigslist?

[Patrick Dencey]

He buys dick. He was soliciting. Like, he was.

[Persephone]

He was selling.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, he was offering, but I don't think.

[Weezy]

And not drugs.

[Persephone]

He was offering his dick for his butt.

[Mandy B.]

What was he offering?

[Persephone]

That's a solid question.

[Patrick Dencey]

He was looking for sexual companionship with women. On Craigslist.

[Weezy]

Oh, girl, you better sound different.

[Mandy B.]

I thought he was selling dick.

[Weezy]

That's just a hookup ad.

[Patrick Dencey]

The ad had offered mouth.

[Persephone]

Like his mouth.

[Patrick Dencey]

His mouth. Okay.

[Mandy B.]

He was offering his mouth to eat strangers. Pusses.

[Persephone]

Was it specific to women?

[Patrick Dencey]

Yes.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

That was.

[Persephone]

He said he wanted to eat a girl out on Craigslist.

[Mandy B.]

I'm not gonna lie. There's nothing more disgusting than a man who just offers his mouth.

[Persephone]

Yeah, that is disgusting. I mean, that's not that outlandish. That's pretty. So, yeah, that's pretty good.

[Patrick Dencey]

And I was just like, ew. But ew, of course. And then delete search history. Was able to go through his email. And I went through emails and I found this girl's number that he used to always say was his homegirl. And they had to study together.

[Mandy B.]

Not study.

[Patrick Dencey]

So I called her and I was like, hey, you know, I know you know who I am, because, you know, he say, y' all friends, but I'm gonna tell you this. And so I told her, like, this is what I've been doing. This is the nature of our relationship for real. Because I realized I was with a pathological liar. So he lied about shit he didn't have to lie about. It was just. Everything was a lie. So then when I told the girl, she was like, oh, really? So it was like, I didn't come at the women disrespectfully. I came on something like, look, this is what you dealing with. This is what I'm dealing with. So talk to me. What's really going on now?

[Mandy B.]

Here's my question after this call.

[Persephone]

It's old fashioned.

[Mandy B.]

Did you stop dealing with him and did she stop dealing with.

[Patrick Dencey]

She stopped dealing with him. I kept my investigation going unbeknownst to him. So I did this to get all of my evidence. Cause when I tell you evidence, he.

[Persephone]

Went.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, no, no, this nigga was good. This nigga was good. And my s. Mouth, listen, this nigga was good. And my self esteem was low. So in this situation, I was like, let me find out everything before he has a chance to change shit up. So I ended up finding out about four more girls. I talked to those girls. Oh, you called all the bitches? I called everybody and they gave me the tea of all teas. And then when I stopped talking to him after that last girl, I actually pulled up on him while he was at school in the library.

[Persephone]

Oh, my God. And.

[Patrick Dencey]

But I pulled up on him to study with him in the library, which.

[Weezy]

And you read him down in the library.

[Patrick Dencey]

There was a girl in the library when I pulled up.

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[Patrick Dencey]

And so that was a whole blow up thing. And I.

[Weezy]

It was also justice major too?

[Patrick Dencey]

No, engineering. And I was just like, sheesh. I was like, okay. Like, I have to be done with this. And when I said, were you after the library?

[Mandy B.]

After the library, you done?

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

You never gave him again?

[Patrick Dencey]

Nope. And he crashed the out on me. Like, he pulled up to my apartment building, banging down the door. I'm like, I almost had to call the police.

[Persephone]

But let me say, selling mouth is the craziest part of that story.

[Mandy B.]

He was just offering his mouth.

[Persephone]

But that's just like a. It's a crazy thing to get past.

[Patrick Dencey]

I don't think he actually. I think it was just, can I do it? Type shit. But when I did my investigation, when I tell you I found out everything.

[Persephone]

He was left on scene on Craigslist.

[Mandy B.]

Them poor girls. One of the four or the five at the library, maybe one of them was from Craigslist.

[Patrick Dencey]

No, they weren't.

[Weezy]

Persephone. I look on your Instagram while we were sitting here. I can't understand how niggas cheat on you.

[Mandy B.]

Beyonce got cheated on. Everybody get cheated.

[Patrick Dencey]

I could get cheated.

[Mandy B.]

It don't matter what you look like, how much you have to offer. If you cook, you clean, you suck the dick from the back. A n gonna cheat every time.

[Weezy]

I'm like, in a cause. Because in New York culture, you go to a bar, there's a girl crying, somebody's going through it. And when you by yourself, the day by yourself, you start talking. Now I live downtown where there's a bunch of bars. And literally, I'd say maybe two to three times a month, there's a girl that's just like venting to me about a man. And I'm telling you, there are women that I meet that are so beautiful, so smart, and I'm just like, fuck.

[Patrick Dencey]

We get so stuck.

[Weezy]

And it sucks because it's really. What you said is self esteem. You gotta build the fucking case. So you're like, all right, it's too much for me.

[Patrick Dencey]

And he helped with that.

[Mandy B.]

He.

[Patrick Dencey]

He helped to bring my self esteem down. That's normally what they do level of.

[Mandy B.]

And make it seem like they the best. They're the best nigga you could get.

[Patrick Dencey]

But when I. When I felt it, I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. And so it was. I was able to, you know, let go. And the. The best part was I met somebody the day after at the grocery store.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, my God.

[Patrick Dencey]

So it was like, I literally met somebody. He was my type at the time. And it was a. It enabled me to let go of that situation completely. Not feel so hurt.

[Weezy]

I be telling my friends, don't heal in the house. Go outside. So you remember, niggas look good.

[Persephone]

Don't heal in the house.

[Weezy]

Don't heal in the house. Listen, get your therapy. But if you sit up in the house, you start like, the idle mind is a devil's workshop.

[Patrick Dencey]

Oh, it was horrible.

[Weezy]

You gotta get out the motherfucking house, bro. My male friends, too, like, sometimes they'll just become reclusive after a breakup. And it's like, that's the worst thing you could do. You gotta get out there, because if you don't remember that there's other people, you start sitting on the couch. I remember when you sit on the.

[Persephone]

Couch, you don't think that sometimes you should just sit in it and let yourself feel it. Cause I feel like a lot of people do that. They just go outside and start smashing everything.

[Mandy B.]

I told people this when I was getting over my breakup. I thought I could just fuck through it. Oh, no. I had to completely go elegant through it.

[Weezy]

And being able to be around people's different.

[Patrick Dencey]

Different.

[Weezy]

So, like, isolating yourself isn't good for any kind of depression or grieving or breakup. Through it is different. But I really do think people need to be out doing.

[Persephone]

Oh. Like, just having fun.

[Mandy B.]

Literally.

[Patrick Dencey]

When I. I was. Literally, I was at the grocery store with my mom. And the crazy thing is, I saw him first. He was in line for the bank, because you know how they got banks. I saw in person, I was like, ooh. And then my mom. I wasn't with my mom at the time. She was on another aisle. But she saw him in the grocery store. Grocery store, too. And when we came together, she was like, did you see that guy?

[Persephone]

Well, she said.

[Patrick Dencey]

I was like, oh, yeah, he looked good. Yeah, he did. And I was just like, okay, cool. Like, but we didn't have sex for, like three months, so I was able to take my focus off of my heartbreak and just deal with another situation that it wasn't so serious and it wasn't sexual until it became sexual, you know, so it was. I wouldn't say it was a healthy transition. Cause he was for sure, for sure a rebound, you know, because my mind was all straight.

[Weezy]

She wasn't going to Craigslist.

[Patrick Dencey]

No.

[Persephone]

That's still the craziest thing I've heard today.

[Patrick Dencey]

That's the craziest thing I've heard.

[Mandy B.]

Catching your nigga offer his mouth on Craigslist and getting no responses.

[Persephone]

It's a double hit. Responsible.

[Patrick Dencey]

I don't think he followed through with that.

[Mandy B.]

I think think.

[Weezy]

Now the best thing we learned on this podcast today is will really think on their feet to the point where your parents is downstairs like that.

[Persephone]

Hopefully he got, like, post that clarity and just realized how horrifying it was.

[Mandy B.]

It just.

[Patrick Dencey]

I think people be doing stuff and they'll do whatever they can without. Without. Without thinking anybody's gonna find out about it. Like, who the would think that somebody's gonna go and look up their Craigslist account, you know? And I was just like, I'm going through everything.

[Weezy]

The podcast. We need you on our legal team.

[Patrick Dencey]

I find you.

[Persephone]

She audit that nigga.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Telling people where to find you and how to support y'.

[Persephone]

All.

[Weezy]

Do y' all do live shows? Cause I would like to see this.

[Patrick Dencey]

We did one live show.

[Persephone]

Yeah, we did one live show in Atlanta. It was really, really fun.

[Patrick Dencey]

Where'd you do that?

[Persephone]

What was it called? Revolt World. They'd had this, like, festival of podcasts.

[Weezy]

Yeah. At the other.

[Persephone]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that was really cool. But they gave us, like. Like, stuff that you normally wouldn't get on the road, like, the screens and stuff. But we definitely want to start, you know, going on the road with this. But, yeah, you could f. You can find us on Thick Threads or Thick Threads Podcast on everything. And our YouTube channel has, you know, a bunch of stuff. Like, it's not just the podcast. We have a true crime show. We have a travel show, and we have a Patreon.

[Weezy]

Oh, let's go.

[Mandy B.]

All the kind. And this is. This is you. Like, all. You both do all of the things together.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

So fun.

[Persephone]

We have our separate socials, too. But, you know, just.

[Weezy]

What did you guys do on the travel show? Where'd you go?

[Persephone]

We just dropped Costa Rica.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah, we did our Costa Rica today. We've been to. We've been to so many places. So the first season of our show was really like going to as many places in the US that people don't really know about, like Sun Valley, Idaho, Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Like, we was going to like little stuff like that parts of Utah. Was it Boulder, Utah? So we did a lot of places in the US and and now we're starting to kind of venture out of the country. So you say now we've done.

[Mandy B.]

We. We traveling.

[Patrick Dencey]

We did Greece, we did Rome, we did Amalfi Coast.

[Weezy]

Y' all went to the Amalfi coast together?

[Persephone]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. And y' all never.

[Weezy]

I just looked there and I'm like, you went as friends.

[Patrick Dencey]

Beautiful, isn't it?

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, I know it is.

[Persephone]

It was also a travel. We were with the travel group.

[Patrick Dencey]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So we rented the car. It was going around, bruh. Oh my God. I couldn't go with my homeboy. But anyway, I mean, but we have.

[Patrick Dencey]

A travel show, so it's gonna be an episode.

[Weezy]

So cool.

[Patrick Dencey]

Mount Piggy. It's gonna meet Greece. I love it.

[Persephone]

Colombia.

[Mandy B.]

What part of the Greece? Y' all ain't do Santorini and not fuck. But anyways. All right, guys. Well, thank y' all so much for tuning in to another episode of Decisions Decisions. Make sure you join us on Patreon patreon.com horribledecisions and make sure you get our book. No holds barred. We will see y' all next week. This has been another episode of Decisions Decisions. Bye.

[Persephone]

Thanks for having us.

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[Weezy]

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[Mandy B.]

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[Patrick Dencey]

This is an I Heart podcast.