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F (2:09)

Welcome to Decisions, Decisions.

A (2:11)

I don't think you should say Decisions, Decisions. It sounded like you was talking in cursive.

F (2:15)

You definitely say the. Welcome.

A (2:17)

Welcome to the new podcast.

F (2:19)

Oh, wait, you want to say it together.

A (2:21)

Decisions, Decisions. Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Decisions, Decisions. Now, y', all, if you are in the south, this is going to be a real Southern episode. But just so you know, let me go ahead and get it started because I have been missed. What's it called? Geographicized.

B (2:41)

Okay, Geographicized.

A (2:44)

Okay. It's your girl Mandy V, aka that bitch from the 47 Chapel City block. Don't get a book.

B (2:51)

This is not your normal intro.

F (2:55)

Really embarrassing. Yes, it is.

B (2:56)

Oh my gosh. Don't do that no more. We need a new intro.

F (3:01)

Yeah, My facials only go one way.

B (3:05)

I ain't going to hold you.

F (3:06)

Okay.

A (3:06)

By the way, let me tell you, actually, I brought up where I was from, but my real introduction is that it's your girl, Mandy B, AKA Peg the Stallion, AKA Peg and Marco, AKA Peggy Bundy, okay?

B (3:17)

AKA that whole lot of straps going.

F (3:21)

You hear another voice today, it's gonna be loud, it's gonna be disruptive. Just remember when you're in the comments saying we're supposed to hear from him, we have conversational pods. Okay? My name is Weezy. You're back on decision decisions. And since we do bios now, only.

A (3:35)

Weezy does that bio. So I'm let the way I do. AKA's Wheezy gives like these thoughtful bios.

F (3:41)

No, I don't.

A (3:41)

So you gonna have a thoughtful bio real quick.

B (3:43)

All right, baby.

F (3:44)

And so we have Deontay Kyle, a host, the creator of the Grits and Eggs podcast. Not the restaurant. A platform committed to addressing the mess we like to sweep under the rug in the black community and providing raw without a condom and nuance to our plight and experiences in the country, both.

B (4:02)

Socially and politically type shit, AKA Peg.

A (4:05)

And Marco, NGA type shit is crazy. Are you a ym?

B (4:10)

No. Stop using that.

F (4:12)

Okay.

A (4:12)

Are you a ym?

B (4:14)

Can you say yes? Just say but only Y.

F (4:18)

You rather you say young than.

B (4:20)

Yeah, absolutely.

A (4:21)

Oh, cuz too many.

B (4:23)

The thing is, if we just abbreviate it, then that can't say will say Y. That's like. Well, you call me A without calling.

F (4:30)

Me A. I thought this was like don't diminish.

A (4:31)

Oh, no, I'm not going to lie.

B (4:32)

It is still don't diminish them because you know, they use the Y like a super predator type.

F (4:39)

Put me.

A (4:39)

Why do people say Y?

B (4:41)

Absolutely, that's why.

A (4:43)

I didn't know that. But I don't know white people like that.

B (4:45)

I didn't know white people like that neither. But I'm telling you on TikTok and like Instagram and like social media, that's how they got down.

A (4:52)

Oh, I don't like that Y N.

F (4:54)

In some of the titles of the rappers names.

A (4:56)

No Y N, W. Melly.

B (4:59)

Yeah, that's a. That's a whole different something different.

A (5:01)

That's like gangs shit.

B (5:03)

So the whole shit Come from, like, you know, TikTok. They'll take anything down. So like when you. We used to use the ninja emoji, and now when you use that, they'll take your comment down.

F (5:13)

Shut up.

B (5:13)

Motherfuckers start saying K. No. Can't be karate samurai in the chat. So like now, so went to start saying Y instead of saying young. And then, you know, white folk just take and run with it.

A (5:25)

They get on my nerves. Yes. The same way we got to say grape. Now all that all from Tik Tok.

F (5:33)

You know what I can't stand?

A (5:34)

Unalive.

F (5:36)

Yourself.

A (5:37)

All of. All of that is.

F (5:39)

It's not fun. You know, when I'm like, I'm gonna kill myself, I don't say I'm unalive. I want to have the drama in it.

B (5:44)

N. Yeah, the drama got to stay though.

A (5:45)

Well, I ain't going to hold you. I wish TikTok would stop allowing people. I know that, like the Risa Tisa, the women, like, get they shit off. They be embarrassing themselves so much. Like, I done found myself down the rabbit hole of, like, women admitting to the men that they like. No, no longer. It makes the hot girls go down a thousand finity points and become a hate.

B (6:08)

But look, though. But you gotta goddamn understand too. Like, we need people to expose stupidity so we know what not to do.

A (6:15)

Okay, so then you're all funny. You're all down for the T app.

B (6:19)

Yeah. Hell yeah. No, I don't know nothing about that. Wait, I be hearing about it.

F (6:22)

But you want to see what it looks like? Let's see.

B (6:24)

Yeah, let's check that.

A (6:25)

Oh, wait, can we see if he's on there?

B (6:26)

Okay. The name.

A (6:27)

No, you don't know that.

B (6:28)

My dick clean.

A (6:30)

Hold on. No, look him up.

B (6:31)

I am. Hold on.

A (6:32)

We. We got. We got your government name too.

F (6:35)

I need to know updated.

B (6:37)

Why don't you say what I'm calling.

A (6:41)

We have your name.

F (6:42)

Hold on, wait.

A (6:42)

We got to start doing this to all the men that come on the pot. We got to see if they get. Oh, he bitch. I would want to talk to him. Hold on, wait.

F (6:51)

Skip.

B (6:52)

See that? How toxic this is. How toxic women is. Don't you?

A (6:55)

Wait. Type his last name. You got his full name?

F (6:57)

No, bitch. Cause the niggas, they ain't putting the last name no more. Hold on. But see, this is a young girl's game. How old are you?

B (7:03)

35. Nope.

F (7:04)

You would be on here 69. Red flags for another deontay.

A (7:08)

Lord, deontay is a red flag Name I ain't gonna hold you. Yeah, it is, bro.

F (7:12)

They got a nigga's fucking.

B (7:13)

What is it called?

F (7:14)

Well, you got the. His mug shot.

B (7:17)

See, this is by me, man. I'm very honest, so I won't get caught up in shit like that.

A (7:22)

But you being honest, and I say that all the time. Like, people been trying to correct me. Like, I actually. Now, I went out with my. My good friend the other night, and I let him know. Like, I'm just gonna let niggas know when everyone's in the room, like, whether I talk to them or not. And he actually let me know. He was like, oh, no, you gotta stop doing that. And I was like, well, why? I'm being honest with everyone. And he was like, well, there's a.

B (7:44)

Time and a place for that shit, so.

A (7:45)

So that's what we out together.

B (7:46)

Don'.

A (7:48)

No, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let me finish, let me finish. So I invite them. Like. Like, when I was in la, I booked a cabana.

B (7:55)

You be book, you be inviting mad you done in the same spot.

A (7:59)

Because I. I buy a bottle. If I buy a bottle, y' all want a bottle, y' all want to eat. It's all me.

B (8:04)

Oh, see, okay.

F (8:06)

I see what's going on.

A (8:09)

I want a good. I want a good trick. No, because all my friends are there. So it's just like. To me, though, I like hanging out also with my niggas, but my friends are all there. So you're meeting my friends. That's why I don't think meeting friends means anything. So anyways, I had a cabana. Whenever I go to la, I have to do breakfast, lunch, dinner in between recordings with people. It's too much. So last time I was there, I booked a cabana, had bottles. I told everyone, show up, it's on me. Food, drinks, whatever, all that. And I ended up inviting three of the niggas. Two of them showed up. Didn't expect. I thought only one of the three. Cause n don't really be showing up. Two of the three showed up. And then they just played it out.

B (8:47)

Playing, you know, like, he might be like, no, but.

A (8:51)

So I told my friend that I did this, and he. He actually was like, nah. So what men don't do is express their ego. And he said, if you invite a nigga that really likes you. And this is where I was like, maybe I deal with real lame N. Cause he said, nah. Now niggas catch the face. It might go pop up like he was making it Seem like on some scary shit.

B (9:12)

I don't know about you.

F (9:13)

That's a little ghetto.

B (9:15)

It ain't ghetto. That's just lame. Like, I'm not doing that. It's like that nigga. Like, what's that?

A (9:19)

But look at the girlfriend lifetime.

F (9:21)

What you were just saying though, when she said the first comment about you were like, don't tell me now. Let's just say we dating. Not like maybe we're not boyfriend girlfriend yet, but we fucking. Now we at the raw point, right?

A (9:33)

So now we at the raw point, you know y' all gonna be getting buried. I'm just.

F (9:39)

Well, you get to a point.

A (9:43)

I swear to God. Real. For real.

F (9:47)

You gotta be consistent.

B (9:49)

For how long?

A (9:49)

Did you just say condom style?

B (9:51)

Yeah, type.

A (9:54)

You. Y' all don't think it's for real with a condom?

F (9:57)

It is for real. I'm talking about with someone. Like y' all vacation.

A (10:00)

No, that means you're together.

B (10:02)

Okay, so like just some little quit, like hit and quit or like our first links and shit like that. I understand.

A (10:07)

When do you take the condom off? When you somebody. I gotta.

B (10:11)

When I start considering cutting other hoes off.

F (10:14)

That's a good rule.

A (10:15)

I'm not mad at that. Yeah, okay.

B (10:16)

When I start considering, like, okay, we locked in type shit.

F (10:19)

So we at that point, the condom's off 60 days in. Maybe I met your mom, maybe you met mine. On the face 60 days in.

B (10:25)

Mean, the mama is crazy.

A (10:28)

See what I mean? That's crazy.

B (10:29)

It's a B process. Like, you might be my.

F (10:32)

Like me a lot, so it changes.

B (10:33)

Okay. Okay.

F (10:34)

So we get to a spot. I fuck the nigga in there. You don't want to know.

B (10:38)

Not okay. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you how this gotta go. Is you finna be acting weird while the nigga in the spot.

F (10:45)

I'm not talking about acting weird.

B (10:46)

No, no, no. Just answer that question.

A (10:48)

That's he asking a question.

B (10:49)

If is you gonna act weird when the nigga in the spot, you gonna keep it playing.

F (10:52)

But how would you.

B (10:53)

You tell me after. After? Cuz if you tell me while I'm in there, I'mma be. I'm gonna be too hyper focused on that.

F (10:59)

But what if we're.

B (11:00)

Cause I'm a 10 day. Like, you might go spike that drink. No, but I'm just saying like because. Because you putting my focus on some shit. We supposed to be hanging out, having a good night. Even if you interact with the. On some Woody Woo Woo. As long as the player and he don't do the most. Like, try to do the most. Cause niggas will try to do the most when they see you out with another. He'll try to make it seem like.

F (11:28)

Now, what if we had a networking event? We had a podcast networking event. Boom. I fucked this nigga. You like, hey, Chris and Eggs, you know? Oh, yeah, I know you, brother.

B (11:35)

I don't care nothing about that.

F (11:37)

You won't take my body on the show.

B (11:39)

What?

F (11:40)

Like you gonna. I'm saying, the nigga I hit, y' all just about to network link. You don't want me to tell you.

B (11:45)

I don't give a fuck.

A (11:46)

He said tell them. He said, tell me when they leave.

B (11:48)

Anything like before, me really don't fucking matter. My thing is, is if you put it to my attention, that's where my attention gonna be at. You feel me? So, like, don't fuck up the vibe. Let me know, like, yeah, I fucked that nigga. Like, this is just him telling us.

F (12:00)

He really crazy in real life.

B (12:01)

Just got a little dispute. Just let me know afterwards. So, like, my attention stay focused on why we there. You did all right. Cause then. Cause not. Cause like, this the thing, too. When you make somebody aware of shit like that, they might overread into shit. So, like, let me, like, let's say we going to a spot, whatever. And I tell you, like, oh, yeah, I hit shadow, right? Oh, like, I'm just letting you know. Cause we in here together, and then you see us, like, interact with each other. You can be like, damn, what you doing?

A (12:24)

You gonna take in more. You gonna take it more than what it is.

B (12:27)

You gonna read too much.

F (12:29)

Only because I'm gonna talk to everybody. And I might get a little too close.

B (12:32)

Yeah.

A (12:33)

But you gotta talk about the reaction of the other person.

F (12:36)

I was saying, though, what I'm saying is, I say take it too far to now the bitch think I'm being funny. I've been in a lot of predicaments with niggas that have fucked a bitch. And I ain't know you another bad bitch.

A (12:45)

Oh, my God, Shit come through my.

F (12:47)

Gym, come to here. And I have no idea. I do need to know, because I'm a motherfucking billboard. I have a book, I got a podcast, I got a gym. Podcast studios.

A (12:55)

I'm gonna tell you everything.

F (12:56)

Bitch, if you cute, if you funny, I'm gonna be in it. I'm gonna be passing shots. And now that hoe finna look at me and be like, go get your bitch. Uh, hell no. Tell me. I don't give a fuck.

B (13:07)

I don't know. I don't know. See, that may be some old. It may be just a different.

A (13:11)

I mean, it's also very different. We are non monogamous people who are fine with cuffing hoe ass niggas that we know are hoe ass niggas. So I think when we talk about how we would react, it's gonna be a little different. Like, that's just what it is.

B (13:23)

Now let's y' all face all made up in here and y' all feet dirty. That was on purpose.

A (13:27)

No, we were at a studio. We were at a studio.

B (13:29)

I was like, I'll just keep bugging me the out. I'm like, everything is so.

A (13:33)

You know what's crazy? People would pay for that. Yeah, people. People pay for the dirty feet is.

B (13:39)

Freaked out out here.

A (13:40)

They is a little dirty.

F (13:41)

We interviewed a brother was talking about that.

B (13:44)

Y' all done sold for some.

A (13:46)

This was the third look of a shoot and literally just the studio. We were in a warehouse.

B (13:52)

It's a nice picture though. Thank you. Y' all been doing this for a grip, right? The podcast almost a decade, so yeah, that's what I'm knowing. How has that, like, affected y' all relationship?

A (14:03)

First off, you know, this is our podcast, not yours. If you want to ask those types of questions, nigga, we will go on goddamn grits and eggs.

B (14:10)

Damn. We can't just exchange information.

F (14:12)

So I would say in the beginning of it, right?

B (14:15)

Try to be bossed up. My question is that Italian? That's what I'm telling you.

A (14:19)

Stop calling me an Italian mobster. I'm never wearing my hair slicked back again.

B (14:23)

You come on my show. Is that succinct? I have a question.

F (14:25)

Okay, okay.

A (14:26)

I will say the only time I took it as a compliment, I ended up meeting Doja cat. And when I tell you, oh my God, love her dearly, she was like, oh, my God, I just have to stop you. She was like, I love your hair. It's giving Sharon Stone. And that's a white woman. And I didn't even argue her down. I said, it is a snake.

B (14:42)

Now you did geek the type shit.

A (14:44)

I'm like, ooh, Dasha like my hair. Thank you, Daja.

B (14:46)

No, it look good though. It just looks. I didn't see you going slick back when we pushed up though. You know know that. How you going to come? I thought you might go peng.

F (14:58)

Okay, so I was actually going to ask you dating Questions, too. So this works out.

B (15:01)

All right, cool.

A (15:01)

So you want to answer the question? Like, are we going to answer the question?

F (15:04)

I frankly been going on so many podcasts and doing the same thing you just did, it's hard for a podcaster to sit in the other seat.

A (15:09)

Yeah.

B (15:10)

N that for real?

F (15:10)

No. I would say in the first five years, it was rough until we was making bread for real. And I actually recently said a few days ago, I don't think until our podcast became a business outside of the podcast, that's when I stopped giving a fucking. When I was, you know, first six months in, you talk about sucking dick and they like, bitch, you still got a job. Then it don't really, you know, it's not this respectable thing. Once you have accolades under your shit, then it feels different. And this is why they treat certain porn stars or onlyfans girls different. Lena the Plug, for example, started an empire, right? When she's having conversations with certain people, they're talking about giving her a TEDx, talking shit like that. It's because you really have to surpass a certain level of hoe and call her daddy bitch.

B (15:49)

Yeah. Type.

F (15:50)

You know what I'm saying? This bitch on Vogue talking about blowjobs in 4K. But that's the same reason Mandy and I can maybe not do a daytime news show. So you really have to catapult a certain.

B (15:58)

Y' all would be good for daytime tv, though.

A (16:01)

Yeah, sounds good. They keep telling us no. For me, dating is tricky. I just got out of a relationship with a public guy, so I think I realized I want a regular Joe Schmo that nobody knows. But that's lit, low key. Because my last relationship impacted how I could do content. Like, a lot of people were trying to figure out who he was. Cause he was an actor. And there's no way that I would want to share certain things that impact his career or be attached to him. So for me, like, even, like, I got another little slot, like, he's not going nowhere. He been on the roster for, like, five years. He. I really don't really talk about him. Cause that nigga, I ain't fucking up. Y' all won't know no details about him, Nothing. Cause I'm like, holy shit. I don't want anyone to even guess who this nigga was. Cause early on in the pod, I. When I dealt with certain people, people, like, literally made it, like, fucking Finding Waldo and was like, okay, we got this clue. This clue. This clue. This clue. This is Waldo. And so for me, now Dating is like, I ask for permission before I share things on the pod. And so it's just making me more accountable to actually care about the niggas.

B (17:08)

That I fucking with the up the floor. Is it just like, son, you gotta be mindful.

A (17:11)

Yes and no. Like, I've had niggas now that, like, if they know me from the pot, I probably won't fuck with. Like, I had this rapper that was just like, oh, I wanna see if you really like what you talk about. It's not a Costco sampler.

B (17:22)

Okay. Be tripping. Cause, like, why would you even let that be lame? You can't.

F (17:28)

Does it happen to you? Like, do you have.

A (17:32)

No, no.

F (17:33)

Do you have the pie groupie girls yet? They like, yeah.

A (17:35)

Do you have groupies?

B (17:36)

Yeah, that's a real thing.

A (17:37)

How do they approach you? Because I've been seeing the girls, especially with the streamers, walking right up like, oh, I want to suck your dick.

F (17:43)

But you don't get.

B (17:45)

You know what I'm saying?

A (17:46)

So they'd be like, oh, let me take you out, Poppy.

B (17:48)

It don't even be that. You know what I'm saying? You know? So it's been known that, like, I was in a long term relationship before.

A (17:55)

Okay.

B (17:55)

And like, we just. We've been going through a separation over the last, like, year and a half.

A (18:00)

Two years y' all were married.

B (18:02)

Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

A (18:02)

Okay.

B (18:03)

Okay.

A (18:03)

So, like, yeah, them separations be taking a long time.

B (18:05)

Yeah, it's a. It's a complicated.

A (18:06)

I will never deal with a separated nigga again.

B (18:08)

It's a complicated situation, but it's also like, you know, I be smooth. Like, I ain't my. Right before we kind of went into the situation where we decided to kind of go separate ways was right before I really started taking the podcast seriously.

F (18:23)

Okay.

B (18:23)

So, like, when we going through that, instead of like just sitting in the crib dealing with my feelings about the shit, I just like, all right, we finna lock in on this business shit. So that's when me and Brooke, like, linked up. So through the process of me dealing with that, I'm dealing with the podcast too. So it really wasn't even about nothing.

F (18:40)

That would even make it harder for me, I feel like, to get back together because a lot of my friends that became popular over time and were already in long term relationships, your woman kind of doesn't know how to deal with it all the time.

B (18:52)

Now we're walking outside, people are like, strange. You feel me? So, like, also too, it's like, we haven't been, you know, it's not like a public thing. I don't really, like, put my business out there like that because people.

A (19:01)

Oh, you're not like us.

F (19:02)

Okay, so you're not actively dating.

B (19:05)

I do be dating, but like, man, that shit be annoying. A little kid, like, I'd be busy as. And then two, like, coming from committed relationship, you know what people want out of commitments. And so, like, even if I tell a straight up, like, this ain't going nowhere, we. We gonna have fun. We're gonna vibe. We're gonna like, we might go out, eat whatever. But it ain't never gonna be no exclusive. After the first few whatever's like, they be really trying to clamp down. Like, damn, you ain't call me today. Yeah, I'm gonna have to just go ahead and let you be. So I'd be like, it be dating shit, but it really be like, more so. Like, I'm more so focused on this shit. Like, what I got going on.

A (19:41)

What is normally the feedback with that. And I. And I ask that because I'm in the place where I feel like nobody.

B (19:47)

Care until they care.

A (19:48)

And so how do you.

B (19:49)

But nobody care.

A (19:50)

But you know, they will eventually, right?

B (19:52)

They don't care until they get what they want. Then when they get they want.

F (19:55)

Out of 10, how many women could actually handle just fucking hanging out?

B (20:01)

Nah, not even like three.

A (20:02)

Three out of ten. Okay.

B (20:05)

The. The rest of it be like, it'd be like, you know, it's fine. Like, I'm focused on my. I'm doing my thing. And then we start cracking and yeah.

F (20:13)

Don'T me too good now.

A (20:17)

Hey, hey, hey, hey.

B (20:18)

Yeah, we started cracking and then it like, the tone changed a little bit. And I like, I ain't no ego out. Like, oh, I just got the type of dick. Like, it ain't that, but it's just like, yeah, the shit do be a thing. Like motherfuckers.

A (20:29)

It's not even. But it's not even dick. It's even attention. That's why the women date.

B (20:33)

I think it'd be a conversation. I think it'd be all that one.

F (20:36)

Nigga at a time, right? We fuck one nigga until we jump to the next one. Men might fuck a few girls at a time. Maybe they have their favorite. But we generally, I would say probably 70% of my friends.

A (20:47)

My friends ain't general then. I mean.

B (20:49)

I mean, I'm just being honest. My friends are mainly everybody kind of different when it comes to that.

F (20:53)

Like, yeah, just like Staying attached to one guy. Maybe one guy is the one they.

B (20:56)

I think the conversation is really what's going to take it over the top. Like, I don't really think it's the sex. I think the sex might be like the icing on the cake type. I think a connection. For real, cuz, like I'm pretty, like I don't be judging. I'm. I'm pretty. Like I'm grown man. I ain't got time to be judging you nor giving a. Like for real, whatever you done did in your past, let's talk about it. Cuz I'm going to figure out who the you is before I deal with you. And then also too, all that lying ass that's going to chop you off.

A (21:20)

Can I ask you, have you ever heard a woman. Only because I talk about this in the book. There's a chapter, why do I need you to need me? And I was in a relationship and the person he met was completely not the person that I was dealing with in therapy. I was dealing with getting over some things I did in my 20s.

F (21:37)

Right.

A (21:37)

He never met that person because he met me when I was 29, 30. He never met the 24 year old, the 25 year old, the 26 year old that was out here wilding. And at the very end of our relationship, he threw something out to me that I had just shared with him. Has there ever been a moment where a woman has told you she did something in the past? Say she let two niggas fuck. Say she did a gang bang, say she sold drugs. I don't know. Let me take it away from sex. Say she did 10 abortions. I don't know, whatever that would make you think. Secondly, about the woman, has there ever been anything that a woman has shared that has kept you from literally being like, this is a woman. I'll probably never look. Cause I can't get that out my mind.

B (22:19)

Yeah, it's gonna, I mean, of course. But I think also too, it's just, I'm real observant, I be paying attention. Like exploring things sexually, ain't no real big deal to me.

A (22:30)

Okay?

B (22:30)

The gang bang is crazy. Like that's crazy. You know what I'm saying?

F (22:35)

Just you.

B (22:35)

It's necessary.

F (22:36)

It's crazy.

B (22:37)

It's not crazy sexually. It's not like taboo. It's just like three, two dicks in a room. And now I'm just supposed to carry you across the finish line. We're not doing that.

F (22:47)

You can't be like exploring sexually is crazy.

A (22:49)

Now, but a gang thing is crazy.

B (22:51)

I'm saying I'm all for that and I respect it. That's your vibe. But you ain't gonna be obvious for you.

F (22:56)

Now let me ask you this.

A (22:57)

See, that's what I mean.

B (22:58)

But it's real though.

F (22:59)

The only thing is actually being a bad dad.

B (23:01)

The thing is, I'm gonna be honest about that. Like, hey, I ain't gonna hold you. That just shifted things for me. But I'mma still fuck with you.

A (23:09)

But you want her to be honest. It's crazy. Cause you said I'm an honest guy.

B (23:12)

Because I need the honesty to know what type of decision I'm gonna make. Just like I made.

A (23:15)

But what if she would never do it again? She just did it in college one time.

B (23:19)

Time, man. I ain't no.

F (23:21)

Can we be honest here though? If it's a problem, we got to let have that.

B (23:26)

Yeah, like that. You got to let.

F (23:28)

Because I'm tell you what, El, I'm going tell you. I'm speaking as a sexually liberated girl. If you don't with it, don't.

A (23:34)

So. So here's the thing.

B (23:36)

It's things you don't. It's things you don't like.

A (23:38)

It's things we can let quote unquote, have it. Sure. However, someone.

B (23:43)

One moment.

A (23:43)

If someone sits across from me and is like, I'm an honest nigga, I'mma accepted D D and you want an honest woman. To me I'm confused with where if this woman is being honest of things that she did before she even met you, and now that's being held against.

B (23:58)

Her honesty, I ain't going for that. Let's keep it.

F (24:01)

No.

A (24:01)

Okay. So breed liars. Everyone don't be honest. No, no. Many.

B (24:07)

The thing is, is like.

A (24:09)

It's a weaponizing.

B (24:10)

If you may not be like a judgment. It's not a judgmental thing. It's just like, okay, I'm gonna tell you what it really is. And I'm trying to tell you is so physical and visual that like done seeing porn. Where is two tag teaming a girl? And it's like, damn, they gonna put that girl in that situation. Like that had my girl in her bent all sideways.

F (24:30)

And you know what it is for me that I. That I've experienced the. Jeff, I'm trying. We got a lot of combo going, but I'm trying to rap.

B (24:41)

Let's move.

F (24:41)

I'm 100, okay. With men having a choice to not fuck with me. I'm 34 years old. I've finally in My life met somebody that really doesn't give a fuck about all of these things that I could have put in there right now, five years ago, I'm crying in the fucking bedroom like, oh my God, I should have never told that story. Duh, duh, what do I give a fuck?

B (25:00)

You gotta be honest though. Like, the thing is too, it's actually better for you if I tell you, like, I'm not going because you could weed me out too. And then also too, it ain't like a nigga don't not want to fuck or not want to kick it or vibe.

A (25:12)

I'm weeding a nigga out. You not getting this pussy. You not hanging with me if I Hold on.

B (25:18)

First of all, you can't assume a nigga done read your books and all that.

A (25:21)

I'm not even reading my book. First off, I have my podcast. It is what it is. I have the book. Here's all my stories right here too. And for me, I've been very adamant in like betting and kind of talking.

B (25:30)

And you tell nigga out the rip type.

A (25:32)

I mean, it's not even that I have to tell him. I literally have to be called horrible decisions. Any woman that. First off, you ain't on a mic, sir, so you can't just be out here asking questions.

B (25:41)

That's what he do. He behind the camera.

F (25:42)

That's what I'm saying.

A (25:43)

But I be liking him, mic'd up or something. We would've put the goddamn mic on. To me though, there's. There's an element of self proclamation as a whole. Self proclamation as a free spirit. A woman who's open or sexually liberated, who, when she goes into dating, there's. I'm sorry, I don't want a man that's going to be judgy about any kinks, fetishes, or things I've done in my past. And to me, it's very easy out the gate to pick those type of niggas that's. Or. Or those type of partners. The same way my friends will be like, damn, bitch, how you be finding all these freaky ass, kinky ass niggas? And I'm like, bro, these aren't any different than the men you're meeting. You're just not creating a safe space for them to really tell you the shit that they really be doing or the shit they've done in the past. And so to me, I'm not opening my legs, laying with a nigga, fucking anybody, or growing a relationship with someone that I know either in the back of their mind is judging me or has a way about how I've lived my life. Like I have niggas right now.

B (26:46)

I'm completely honest though.

A (26:47)

I wouldn't do that.

B (26:48)

See, this is the thing too. I'm still like, I still deal with my ego and like some sensitivity. We all do around like, what the bros gonna think and shit too. Even though, like, I don't want to think about that. And for the most part it's not really. I don't really give a. But these is my niggas. Like, if you go away, I'm still gonna be friends with these niggas. So like, I think a lot of that play into it is like public perception. Public perception.

A (27:11)

I say this all the time.

F (27:12)

I actually might have asked you about that too.

B (27:14)

So. Because the other thing is this too. Like it's a two way street. I was sitting here trying to think of an example for like what's comparable to that. And like, imagine like, you know, girls are cut off a nigga if they find out he bisexual or something like that.

A (27:28)

That's right.

B (27:29)

Yep, that'd be a thing. Too many kids experimenting or things like that. So everybody got their cutoffs. It ain't really about judgment. It's more so like a self awareness. Like, I just know I can't deal with that shit. And me personally, like, what if we vibe and I know about your past and everything like that, but I fuck with you and it's like, that shit don't matter to me. But people in your ear do matter and that shit do have and they shouldn't.

A (27:49)

I talk about that in the book too, guys.

B (27:50)

Yeah, it may not be even a personal thing. Like just like you in a relationship and you got like, you know, niggas be having like moms that be low key, a little too attached to them and shit. They be fucking their relationships up too. So it's a lot of factors that play in. So like, of course, initially off the top, what was my first reaction? Like, oh, no, keep it real. Then I'm sitting here like, bro, that's what I'm saying.

A (28:12)

I saw you. You change your mind.

F (28:14)

This conversation is important because it's real. If I was a girl that had a gang bang and you don't fuck with it, let me go.

B (28:20)

Because I'm also cool with the cut off though. That's another thing too. I don't get attached to that shit. Like at this point I done been in, when you in a long term relationship, you know everything that you know the ins and outs and everything. Like things that niggas don't account for. Like you going to the, like you dealing with periods you dealing with, you smelled they shit before all type of shit. Like we ain't even closing the door to use the bathroom no more type shit. So it's like you get so vulnerable with a person at this point. And I'm 35, I'm grown, I got motion, I got shit going on. I don't give a fuck. Like is we gonna work out or not? If we not, let's go ahead and go about our separate ways before niggas lie theyself into attachment and then they make it more difficult to lie themselves into attachment.

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F (31:12)

So if anybody has watched your clips for the most part. I don't even feel like you talk about dating at all.

B (31:17)

I don't which is why it's enough people doing that.

F (31:20)

Let's see which would be worse, free or social capital. Dating a white woman or dating Candace Owens.

B (31:26)

Dating a white woman will be worse.

F (31:28)

Than dating Candace Owens.

B (31:29)

Man, I have Candace Owens woke as fuck. What you mean? I changed that shit up. Candace Owens will be outside with the natural next week.

A (31:37)

You hope not with the natural hope.

B (31:40)

Man, watch this.

F (31:42)

Having people find out someone's got some good pussy. Actually I'm sure her white husband don't think so.

B (31:48)

You don't think so?

F (31:49)

You think that I think Candace gives me lame. Candace is smart as that would be sexy. Like don't let's not get it twisted. Her opinions are terrible but the is smart.

B (31:58)

No, she's smart as I think that's the part I was thinking about bro.

F (32:01)

Well read.

A (32:02)

Oh I also think she got body though. Pretty.

B (32:05)

I mean she probably like give you crazy eye contact like you seen her friends?

F (32:09)

The got not one black friend.

B (32:11)

Okay, yeah, yeah but then the white.

A (32:13)

Girl'S known as being like.

B (32:18)

Out for a white woman.

F (32:19)

Okay, you guys want to change the own let. We'll let. We'll let her now.

B (32:21)

Don't even try to compete.

A (32:23)

I would. I mean I would her for sure.

F (32:25)

When people find out you registered to be a Republican when you were 18 or having your recent history be leaked and it's all mega content. Which would be worse for you?

B (32:35)

Recent history for sure.

F (32:36)

Okay, wait, for sure?

B (32:38)

Yeah. I mean I'm 35.

F (32:39)

Oh. I would have been like oh, I was just looking up.

A (32:41)

No, no, no.

F (32:42)

That would be way worse if it's.

B (32:44)

Leaked then they know like exactly what.

A (32:46)

Right now you think those thoughts?

B (32:48)

Yeah.

A (32:48)

What you registered as when you were 18.

B (32:50)

That don't even matter. When I was 18 Obama was in prison. Same you did. That was my first vote.

A (32:55)

That was my first vote too. Same.

B (32:58)

I feel like I was selling. I was selling drugs and all type of shit. But I went and voted for that.

A (33:02)

Like my mom, I went out of school.

B (33:05)

That was a family event. 3 and 3.

A (33:06)

Me and my mom went and did that together.

B (33:09)

Yeah, like it was great.

A (33:10)

November of 2008, I had bought me a goddamn cuz I turned 18amonth before 10th.

B (33:16)

Come on, Highway 5. I was like, cousin, they was. They were selling me big ass goddamn pictures of a whole picture. And I brought that shit home. My mom was like, oh, my God, that shit was lit.

F (33:26)

I did have a cutout in my house too.

B (33:27)

Yeah, a cutout like that shit was.

F (33:30)

The biggest to me. That's gonna be the biggest vote of our lives.

B (33:32)

Oh, God. Yeah, that's real.

F (33:34)

Okay, smash or pass? She's a 10, but she videotapes all the dates y' all go on and the meals for content.

B (33:40)

That's over with.

F (33:41)

Okay, she's a 10. She got three kids at 35.

B (33:45)

Niggas don't even know. Like, a 10 is overrated. I like a cool ass seven or eight.

A (33:49)

Like, what's a cool six, cell mate?

B (33:52)

I ain't say nothing about no six.

F (33:54)

Okay, you said six.

A (33:56)

You said six. Okay, wait, you said so cool.

B (33:59)

Seven, eight.

A (34:00)

What's a cool seven?

F (34:00)

Eight.

B (34:01)

I mean, what is a 10?

F (34:03)

Well, subjective. It is subjective.

B (34:05)

I'm saying perfect.

A (34:06)

It is subjective.

B (34:07)

A 10 is perfect. Ain't nobody perfect. But I get what you're saying, right?

A (34:10)

I agree.

F (34:10)

So three kids at 35. Can she still be a 10 for you? Yeah, for sure she's a 10. But she's a bit of a podcast host groupie.

B (34:19)

That's a little strange.

F (34:20)

But you still gonna fuck.

B (34:21)

But nah, we could talk about it.

A (34:22)

Like, what do you mean? You.

B (34:23)

What's going on in your mind? Like, why you? Why you so.

A (34:26)

Oh, no, I've literally deaded. Like, what you mean?

B (34:28)

Like. Like a girl? Like, what you mean?

A (34:30)

No, like, I've gone on a date and a N has been like, oh, my God. So, like, what's Rory really?

B (34:34)

Like, oh, no, I ain't gonna hold it. Now we be knowing some of them. I ain't gonna hold you. Like, I've been talking to somebody and then they start bringing up shit from the podcast. I was like, oh, this over it is cause you feel like you know too much about it.

A (34:49)

You don't hate it.

F (34:50)

Let me ask you this. Two situations that I could talk about where I'm like, maybe it's cause I'm not a weirdo. Maybe cause they ain't weirdos. The reason I wanted to start a podcast was because I loved bodega boys. Ended up being friends with Deez this year later, and I be talking about shit from the podcast. And the nigga be like, bro, that's crazy. I don't remember that. Now, one of my close friends was a fan of the podcast Are you.

B (35:08)

Talking or just like that?

A (35:09)

No, no, no, no, no.

B (35:10)

I was just asking.

F (35:11)

But I'm saying that could be weird, right?

B (35:14)

Yeah, because mother. Cause it's almost like you know shit about me I don't even remember by myself, bro. That's crazy.

A (35:19)

That's crazy.

B (35:20)

But it's not crazy in the sense like I was with Mero and them the other like on some homie shit. Like I'm bringing up shit from the podcast. He might not remember that shit, but it's like I'm a fan. But it's like that's cool for the homie.

F (35:33)

Is it not cool for. But that's what I'm saying. If we're not weirdos.

B (35:37)

Well, because the thing is is if we gonna talk, we need like an honest representation of each other. And like you have an. Yeah, like. And you may have pedestaled me too. So it's like, it's too much.

F (35:47)

So what do we do when you're really famous? What do you do when you're the most famous actor? Meeting women.

B (35:53)

Pretend that this one I go to West Africa and find me a wife.

F (35:59)

She don't watch the podcast.

A (36:01)

But I was gonna say back to the lady. You say you better turn into a passport bro is also crazy.

B (36:07)

Never said that. Okay, well, I'm your wife. I'm dirty. I mean, I'm God. I'm not going out there to fuck say like sex tours. I said I sit.

A (36:14)

Wait, you think passport bros aren't doing sex tourism? They're going out to find wives in other countries.

F (36:19)

Wait, no, wait, wait.

A (36:21)

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Passport bros are going out of the country. No, no, no, no. We just had this.

B (36:28)

You're wrong about this.

F (36:29)

That's not what a passport bro is.

B (36:31)

The colloquial term for passport bros is sex tourism.

F (36:34)

And that they're the only ones that could out the country.

A (36:36)

Yeah, no, it's not.

F (36:40)

Saying when. What is it when they you talking.

B (36:42)

About Merriam Webster versus the street? I'm not, bro. Why you look that up?

F (36:46)

I got one more for you. She's a 10, but she's saving sucking dick for marriage.

B (36:51)

Oh, that ain't happening.

F (36:53)

You not 2 but a 10.

B (36:54)

I don't give a you a L. Queen. You a L. I'm not going to spend my marriage teaching you how to suck D. You better practice match cuz if you don't not suck what el.

F (37:05)

And learned a bunch of dick sucking, then you take it right?

B (37:07)

What well you doing? Why we just shoot the ball from half court. We got 23 seconds left on the car. You shot from half court.

F (37:15)

Why you were talking about?

A (37:16)

I was.

F (37:16)

No, for a game, B. So she can't suck dick. She can't suck too much dick. By the way.

A (37:21)

By the way. I want to. I want to just real quick because we did just talk about this. A passport bro is a slang term for a man often from the us, Canada or western countries, who travels abroad sometimes permanently, to date or marry women from other countries. Usually places like Southeast Asia, Latin America or Eastern Europe y' all talking about. Also the. That might go for a man trip and just want to pay $24 for coochie. Panama City.

B (37:48)

The turn. When you say passport, bro, that's what niggas got.

A (37:52)

BO Are the men that are low hanging fruit here, can't get a goddamn here because they make 30,000 and are lame like that. Nobody here wants them. So they go to find a submissive woman, a woman who sees them as a king from another country and that's who they end up being with. It has nothing to do with paying for money. It has nothing to do with sex, sex or sex. None of that.

B (38:16)

I ain't never looked at the definition of that. I know the streets. I know what the streets be talking about.

A (38:21)

What they talk about are these American men, these lame crack ass niggas that go overseas and try to end up with an Asian woman or someone who's going to make them feel like a king because they feel like American women want too much here.

B (38:33)

Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, see, that's another thing too. Like, I can't be considered that if I'm first of all attractive. Second of all, if I'm stupid, stupid famous. I don't care. Like, if I'm up monetarily, you can't want.

A (38:46)

No, I get that. For me, even saying the passport bro thing was that you were gonna go, but no, but it was just. But it was. It was the loudest podcast we had in a while. It was a joke at the time that I was just like, you were going to another country to get a woman. Like, you couldn't find that.

B (39:01)

I'm jokingly saying that because she said, what if you get too famous? But at the same time, it's like, I never feel like love is off the table no matter how visible you are. Or it's just about like, somebody gonna have to understand what this shit come with. Either way, even if with the inverse, I gotta understand. Like, if you was dating another famous woman, you gotta understand she be busy as fuck soon. And she gonna be places. She gonna be city to city. Y' all might not see each other all the time, but, like, I think the strongest bond in a relationship is, like, creating a safety for each other. So if you. Somewhere that I know I can go and express myself and talk to without judgment or without, like. Without, like, yes, man shit. Either. Like, if I'm wrong, let me know I'm wrong type shit. So, like, the connection gonna come from the conversation for sure. But I don't think you can. You can, like, like, move your way out of there, do the famous shit like that.

F (39:52)

I don't think it really matters if you're famous or not. There's so much Googling we could do.

B (39:56)

Like, and it's mad people in the world.

F (39:58)

Like, I'm gonna figure out who you dated, who the other person was. There's, like, some way to look something up. Like, we're always gonna have a preconceived.

B (40:03)

Notion in things also, too. It's like, somebody out here with, like, 10 million followers I ain't never heard of.

A (40:08)

Yeah, there's a lot of, like.

B (40:09)

Like, we exist in, like, pockets anyway.

A (40:12)

We do.

B (40:12)

So, like, it's always gonna be somebody out there that don't know or won't know, or it's always gonna be people out there that you would least expect you might make a connection.

A (40:19)

Would you date another podcaster?

B (40:22)

I don't know. It's a lot of.

A (40:24)

What are your thoughts of podcasting?

B (40:26)

That's a lot of talking. Goddamn. Nah, I mean, it just depends. I don't. I don't really. I can't get down to judging somebody for what they do, period. But I just think it's about what our connection gonna be.

F (40:35)

You know what fucks me up is, like, I think I get. I don't know. Maybe because we've been podcasting a long time, maybe because I make a lot of podcasts for people, but I really didn't want to be. And maybe it's unbelievable to people watching. My brain wasn't thinking about, like, I'm.

B (40:51)

Gonna be famous type shit.

F (40:52)

I just was really having fun doing this shit. It felt like, salacious but funny and, like, I liked the back and forth with the community thing, but I really do believe because of how much money's in podcasting, I really don't want to date somebody that wants to be famous. I don't enjoy having conversations with people that, like, really want fame from what they do. Because then you.

B (41:11)

There's a difference, too.

F (41:12)

There is. And that's truly what, like, the new era of podcasting is like, people that.

B (41:17)

Want to be famous.

F (41:18)

Yeah.

B (41:18)

Yeah, we was really also too, like, I. I started all this shit off TikTok. I wasn't never thinking about that. I knew it was possible because I seen what the competition was and that shit wasn't about nothing. So I was like, I was like, honest. I was like, okay. And I'm driving trucks at the time too. So I'm like, well, people make money off this by just giving their opinions. I know I got better opinions. And 90% of these motherfuckers are like, if I can get a little supplemental income, help my family out, I'm cool with that. But a lot of people was requesting, like more long form podcasts and shit like that. The 2020, like the COVID bubble of podcast kind of turned me off from the shit. So I ain't really wanted to turn you on.

A (41:58)

That's when it was like, I don't.

B (42:00)

Be caring about money, though. Like that. The money I'm a. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be good either way.

A (42:06)

Why do you do what you do then?

B (42:07)

Cause said. I said wade into it. Like it was something that was in demand for me. You did what? I'm saying, it wasn't like, now I'm gonna start the podcast, I'm gonna do this. People kept requesting that. I feel like what I got to say is important, but I also know I'm providing a different perspective.

F (42:23)

So money isn't always directly tied to fame either.

B (42:26)

It's not. You know what I'm saying?

F (42:27)

When we started doing our show in the beginning and we're making money, that's what kept me being able to do it. There is gratification I get from fans, but now I feel like there's a point where, like, if I go to everyday people, probably when I'm in a bathroom, the girls know me. Like, I can't necessarily be talking shit. I can't really do too much. Like, if I meet a nigga, one of his friends knows me. If he don't. Like, that's not really what I wanted.

B (42:51)

It get a little. It get a little.

A (42:52)

That's the hard part about Atlanta.

B (42:53)

It get a little isolated.

A (42:54)

I can't even talk out in public about anything. Anybody.

B (42:57)

Somebody listen.

A (42:59)

Literally the waiter knows me, the bartender know me. Somebody know me. I. I can't do it out here. Literally, I was hopping in the Uber to get here. On my block. Someone's like, you have a podcast, right? I'm Getting in the car in front of my spot, and I'm like. Like, I think that part of things, like, to know, like, not to bring it to Beyonce because we're not on her level. But Beyonce said, like, she wishes sometimes that she could just walk Central Park. There's certain elements of just life she's not able to do. And I think sometimes people say they want the fame, and this shit. Shit kind of rings.

B (43:31)

I think there's a thing of, like, chasing fame. And those people are always, like, very noticeable. You can notice people who chasing fame. They're on baddies, I think that type shit. So I think for me, it's like, the idea of it turning into something where I'm super visible and famous. It lingered because I understand that other people in this space do have that. But for me, it was more important, like, okay, I get to have a space where I can speak, and people are receptive to what I'm saying. And, like, I. I like that. I enjoy that. I enjoy speaking. So it's like, the attention is a good part of it, too, because it, like, people paying attention mean that my message and what I got to say is impacting folks at this point now, it's like, okay, damn. Like, my neighbor know who I am from the podcast, and I don't never talk to my neighbor, but that motherfucker, we was taking the trash out one day, he's like, man, I'm fucking with the podcast, man. I love that shit. What the fuck?

F (44:22)

You know what I'm saying? It's crazy because you just don't know who's watching you all the time, right? I was eating at this restaurant. I want to shout them out, too. They black on lele. I'm having a really deep conversation with my man about, like, fertility and, like, you know, family planning and da, da, da, da, da lady next to me. Not just do I know the podcast. She's like, don't want to make it weird. We get in a check. She's like, I just finished the book. Like. Like, I'm so happy for y'.

A (44:46)

All.

F (44:46)

Da, da, da, da da. So we in the car home. He's like, nigga, what if you was talking? Cause you be talking.

A (44:51)

I be talking. I stopped talking shit publicly.

F (44:53)

What the. I'm talking, you know, on them tables in New York like this. We was eating together, bitch, you ain't say nothing now. She know when I'm ready to have a baby.

B (45:01)

It's also too. It's. I think it's what type of fame you got Too, like, people don't approach me. I think what. What my messaging is. No, I wouldn't finna say that I'm.

F (45:09)

I let fan the.

B (45:13)

No, people don't approach me with the, like, super duper famous. Like, they approach me like a everyday person. Cause I think my messaging is, like, every day. You feel me? So, like, I don't really get, like, people that get fanned out type shit, but it has happened a few times. And I'm like, relax, bro. Really?

A (45:29)

Then what's in the weirdest?

F (45:34)

Was it men or women?

B (45:36)

It be niggas, bro.

A (45:37)

Yeah.

B (45:37)

Cause they be women. Be cool. You know what I'm saying?

A (45:40)

N be groupies out here. It's bad.

B (45:42)

Like, a nigga, like, literally, like, running from across the street like, yo, deontay. I'm like, hey, what's up? I'm thinking it's cool. What up? Like, whoa, what up, bro? I'm focused. Ten times ahead, this nigga is on the sidewalk with me. I was like, damn, what's up, bro? You cool? Like, you ain't had a light, you know what I'm saying? My boy Jay walked again. He weaved through the traffic. That's funny. And it was love. Like, I appreciate the love. The love be real. But it's also like, damn, like, I'm not famous type shit. Like, I'm not super duper famous for, like. So then how does this escalate? That's the type of shit I be thinking about. Like, what these n doing? Yeah, like, what? What? Like, how do they move, maneuver and operate? Cause, like, I think a big part that I enjoy is, like, going out and n know me, but I can still parlay in 1, 2. Like, but, oh, I'm not gonna lie.

A (46:29)

I feel super famous now. They set me half court at Dykman basketball, and I was like, oh, my God, bitch, I done made it. I went to dy, nigga. They. They. They taking they little. They little. What is it? Timeout. And the N on the mic is like, yeah, Shout out to Manny V in the building. Yo, yo, yo, that podcast when I'm gonna get on the couch, though. And I was like, I met Dyckman basketball.

B (46:52)

I be having moments like that. This should be hard.

F (46:55)

I used to. It's like a hood.

A (46:58)

I used to go to Dyckman is like. And this is back when, like, all the bitches was going. You could see all the bitches with their bbls. Da, da da, da da. I was in there seeing all the niggas who played overseas, all the Celebrities, like, used to be in Dykman. So when I first moved to New York, I'm going Dykman basketball is it. So mind you, I'm was just in New York. I go during the playoffs. It is a Monday. It's not like a Friday, but it's literally the week. Yeah, it was off day, but it don't. It was me and my girl Rosie walk up to the gate, and she know one of the coaches from Dominican Power. So she's like, we here with Dominican Power. So we go up to the gate. They're like, gates closed. And me and her look like, nah, we supposed to be in here. So we get in and we walk over, say, ah, ah, ah. He's like, he looks like I'm look familiar. He remembers I had curly hair. I used to be outside. This is where I used to bag my neck. Cause was Dodge Basketball. So I go to fucking. We go. They're like, you need chairs. Da, da, da. We get seated half court. Nobody move us. We half court. By the way, about four niggas that was playing ended up sliding in my DMs. Cause this is. I'm a celebrity here. I'm on celebrity row in Dykeman Basketball. And I was just like, like, damn.

F (48:10)

That'S a fun for me to say. What's happening?

A (48:12)

No, listen, when I. Girl, when I tell you, I don't care about.

B (48:15)

Do you know what a court is?

F (48:17)

But court.

A (48:18)

I'm half court. Isn't court side? No, but I'm half court side.

F (48:21)

Oh, so you're sitting in the middle, baby.

A (48:23)

In the middle, in the middle. Hold on. When I say best seat in the house. And I. And I was thinking about my little bird ass. This is internally, I'm like, you done party with all these celebrities. You know, all this is. You be on the phone, you be in the club. Us. When I tell you, a part of me was like, you made it half court indictment.

B (48:42)

That's hard. I ain't going to lie. When I was in Chicago, Chicago, I got so much love in Chicago. But like, we was at that little speed, easy. And I come out that lit up. I'm lit, bro. I walk across the street, go smoke. It's this T. It's this car full of older women. Like, they all 45, 50. N was like, hey, Deontay. I was like, what's up, 50s? Yeah, like, cuz, niggas, mamas be with me type. Not n. Not even that way. But like, people would tell me, like, bro, my mama put me on your podcast.

A (49:16)

Like, oh, wow.

B (49:17)

So, like. But these some, like. You know what I'm saying?

A (49:22)

So weird, the things that actually touch.

F (49:24)

You and make you feel important. They got out the car.

B (49:26)

Hell, yeah, they got out the car. They had the wig rolled up, too. I was like, let me hit the wig with y'. All. All that.

A (49:30)

Oh, you made their night.

B (49:31)

They had got down. One of the mamas was like, sign my titty. I had signed her tit. I was like, yeah, I got a Sharpie. That's love.

A (49:43)

You made their whole week.

F (49:44)

A celebrity ever gave me that.

B (49:47)

But so what I was gonna say, we went to Soho the next night. And, like, I'm a big Isaiah Rashad fan. So, like, me too. So I'm like, I'm hearing Brett in. I'm like, let me get to the stage type. And then Brett seen me. I seen her. He was like, like, that's Deontay Khan, host of the GR Podcast. If y' all don't f. With that podcast, y' all sweet. Shout out my. I was in that. Be geeking. Do you hear me? I was like, somebody buy me a drink.

F (50:17)

I b. Put me on a dope Chi.

B (50:19)

Yeah, real rap, though.

F (50:21)

I like em. I love Isaiah Rashad.

A (50:23)

Okay, speaking of music, let's get the music. Oh, you better get this, too. So I've been provoking black cards and G cards and all the cards. It's been bad.

F (50:32)

So this is our hoetry segment, so.

B (50:36)

Shut the wild. Sicilian is crazy.

A (50:39)

I'm a Sicilian. Shut the fuck up.

F (50:42)

Piece of the texture.

B (50:43)

I ain't gonna hold you if you go pinstripe power suit you Sicilian. You might have a whole family, like, ready to ride for you at any. I'm gonna be down.

F (50:52)

Oh, my God.

B (50:54)

I'm your hitch and I'm down. Me and Ben Cat. We hintstop.

A (50:56)

You know what's crazy? When I was going through, like, my backstory of my Caucasianness, I wanted my mama to be something cool, like, not just British California. She's like, there's some Cherokee in there. But it was nothing cool. I said, oh, this why you can't make pasta. Okay.

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F (53:07)

This is our segment where we take rap lyrics and we turn them into poetry.

A (53:11)

And you have to guess the song.

F (53:13)

Cut me off when you know the song. All right, babe, now give me my dub back. Go and get your friend. Stupid bitch Standing there while I'm drinking My hand steady looking at me still asking questions. Time's up, nigga. Pass me another contestant, ho. Move to the left if you ain't. Bout 50 done talked through 3 or 4 songs already.

B (53:43)

I don't know.

F (53:44)

No, you will. I'm gonna keep going. Looking at a nigga with your palm out. Bitch, I ain't even seen you dance. Work something, baby. Work something, baby Popping pussy on the pole do your thing. Slide down that bitch a little bit then stop get back on the flow Catch your balance, then drop.

B (54:05)

Is this the fucking yang, yang.

A (54:09)

Yang? Bring it back up.

F (54:13)

I just want to see your ass dirty dance.

B (54:19)

You seen them boys performing lately at SeaWorld?

A (54:22)

Did you see them at SeaWorld?

F (54:23)

I would like them to be at my wedding.

B (54:24)

I would like them to leave SeaWorld alone, bro. Like animals. The animals is suffering, bro. Y' all rap, son.

A (54:32)

Are you serious right now?

F (54:33)

That's a good point.

A (54:34)

I wanted to fly to San Diego just to be a part of spring bling and SeaWorld part of the problem. Oh, always. Let's get this.

B (54:40)

Would you do the same thing if these was performing crazy?

A (54:44)

Do you not care about black. You don't care about black entrepreneurs and artists making a bag.

B (54:49)

Do you not care about the orcas?

A (54:51)

They are not swimming. They're not doing anything to the orcas.

B (54:53)

This is why niggas die. This why this why this? Why be training.

A (54:57)

Make some money. What's the problem?

F (54:58)

Conspiracy was tough and I ain't going to lie. We lived in Orlando.

B (55:04)

Like, come on.

A (55:05)

Oh, in Abu Dhabi. The. The. The. The SeaWorld there doesn't have. But they don't have the. The orca here though. Do you see where our president is?

B (55:17)

No, they ain't in Abu Dhabi.

F (55:18)

You know what's crazy about the.

B (55:19)

Yeah, because like they unc. And they unked out. Like they Asian. Like they Asian uncle.

F (55:24)

Someone asked. Can I just tell you three for wedding performances? Yingyang Twins, K Trada and then Shade. Maybe Boujee.

B (55:31)

That's hard.

A (55:31)

I just want to say. Okay, this is going to be problematic.

B (55:34)

How would you feel if the was whispering in your ear in 2003?

A (55:37)

It depends which one you would have f. No, no, no. It depends.

F (55:40)

Two arm.

A (55:41)

I was about to say the one with which arm? Cuz I was about to say we.

B (55:43)

Could have said the short one of the towel. We did not have to start talking about.

F (55:46)

Disagree.

A (55:47)

You know what I'm g say it wasn't even cgi. He said that arm very well.

B (55:51)

Growing up, you couldn't even tell them n got arm.

F (55:55)

Poppy is a whole dj. DJ Global that got one too.

B (55:58)

DJ Paul Son.

F (56:00)

Yeah, watch the game.

B (56:01)

I understand which one you would have cracked though.

A (56:03)

Wait, at this point there's three people famous with the arm.

F (56:05)

With the arm, right?

B (56:06)

Yeah.

A (56:07)

I'm tell I was a tall with. No, with both arms.

F (56:10)

No, the tall one didn't.

A (56:11)

She has both arms.

B (56:13)

No, no, no. The tall got the missing arms.

A (56:15)

No, the short one.

B (56:16)

No, I'm telling.

F (56:18)

Go Google. She wants to be right today.

A (56:21)

No, because y' all wrong.

B (56:24)

Yeah, he got.

A (56:25)

Yeah, I'm looking up little.

B (56:27)

Little arm.

F (56:28)

I think there's an add trait.

B (56:29)

Yeah, yeah.

A (56:30)

I need another passport, bro.

F (56:32)

Okay, so we got this segment. Call me.

A (56:35)

Why they both got long arms in these pictures? Now see the little behind his arm? Look, the tall one has both arms very long.

B (56:42)

Where's the Taiwan? Where's the Taiwan Arm position? Behind the other.

A (56:46)

No, no. Both of his arms are right here. The little one arm behind say Bruh.

B (56:51)

Where you from? Where you from? Which one of the yin yang twins got the short arm? How old you is? How old you?

A (57:01)

30.

B (57:01)

Women should know about yin yang twins.

F (57:03)

Okay, let's jump over the arm because we only got Beyonce another 10 minutes.

B (57:07)

Oh, for real?

F (57:07)

So we gotta. We listen and we judge.

B (57:09)

How long y' all should be? Like an hour.

F (57:11)

An hour.

B (57:12)

Okay.

A (57:12)

I would fuck the tall one with the little arm. So I'm looking at you.

B (57:17)

Ain't let them n. Come on. Double Dutch.

A (57:20)

We talk about. So you can.

F (57:22)

So you can judge me for two ugly. We can take.

A (57:25)

No, no, no, no. If you do a gang bang. No, the got to be elite in a gang bang.

F (57:31)

Too ugly and want to save a.

A (57:35)

Charity at that point.

F (57:38)

Disability likely.

B (57:42)

Money.

F (57:43)

Really takes over all. Okay, we listen and we judge. Let's get to. So it's one of our favorite segments because when you share a piece of gossip in your friend group. And we gonna listen and judge. So has any of y' all niggas called you lately? Any of y' all homegirls told you some bullshit and you would like to bring it to the table to judge today?

B (58:00)

No, niggas not to call me with that shit.

F (58:02)

Now if you don't have any, we have three celebrities you could choose to judge today.

B (58:06)

All right, Bet I'm down for that.

F (58:08)

Choose from Offset Cardi B or Halle Berry.

A (58:12)

I feel like two of them were part of me.

B (58:13)

I'm going Halle Berry.

F (58:15)

Okay, you really judging her because she ain't clean.

B (58:18)

Clean. What?

F (58:19)

Wait, are we not up to date? No, you a TikTok, so that's good.

B (58:23)

Post and go.

F (58:24)

Okay, so Halle Berry's ex husband, the MLB player, the one Dustin.

A (58:28)

This came out like a month and a half, like two months ago.

F (58:32)

So basically, he said that Halle Berry wasn't cleaning and cooking.

B (58:34)

So she Halle Berry at the time, she was. You seen them titties and swartfish niggas. She wouldn't have had to do shit.

F (58:40)

I felt the same way.

B (58:41)

I been in that bitch with an apron. Nigga, fuck you talking about? What's up? Hallelujah.

F (58:45)

So we're judging Halle because she wasn't cleaning the cookie. What you judging Halle for? Talking about her pussy on the Internet?

B (58:50)

Probably running some. Then she run over in the cookie.

F (58:55)

I thought that was Caitlyn Jenner.

A (58:57)

I'm judging Halle for three.

B (58:58)

It's three, I think. Halle, Caitlyn, and Brandi.

A (59:02)

I'm judging Halle.

B (59:03)

The dangers behind the wheel.

F (59:04)

What you judging Halle for?

A (59:05)

I'm judging Halle because I'm judging Halle.

B (59:07)

For fucking hearing Billy Bob Thornton.

A (59:09)

That's crazy. She was okay.

B (59:12)

He was really giving it to her.

F (59:13)

That's crazy.

A (59:14)

Billy didn't hear with one arm. I would. No, he's white.

B (59:18)

Yeah.

A (59:18)

You just got mad at him for wanting to a white woman, a Candace o over a white woman. And now you want to a candidate over it.

B (59:26)

Imagine you riding Billy Bo th and you go kiss him in the mouth. In the mouth full of d. You talking about. Yeah, you gonna be mad.

F (59:33)

Whose mouth is worse if we talking about them two?

B (59:36)

That is a fair who and who? Billy or the from the union twin? Nah, that's both ill mouths right there.

A (59:46)

That's nasty. That's nasty. I am judging Halle Berry for something that was just brought to my attention, and I feel like it is completely wrong. So when first off, I'm judging her for two things. The first thing is she was dating this nigga who was an MLB player. Five months into the relationship, she told him to propose to her. So I'm judging her for that. That telling a five months in, you got to marry me. And this nigga, like a dummy did.

F (60:15)

At the time, he was. He was worth what? How much back then?

A (60:18)

Yeah, no, he was worth a lot.

B (60:23)

I ain't going to lie. Like, if I'm in the MLB chat, I'mma just have my lawyers, like, make sure we good and I marry the church.

A (60:30)

I think he clearly had to.

B (60:32)

I can fuck Halle Berry for.

F (60:33)

Wait, you're judging her for saying that?

A (60:35)

I'm judging her for five months in telling a nigga to marry you because have some fucking Coop.

F (60:39)

But didn't he do.

B (60:43)

Cancel that? Do cancel judgment out. Okay, she said to do it, and then that's clear as fuck.

A (60:48)

The second thing I'm judging her for is very problematic. And you bitches gotta get better with this shit. So in the same interview, he let it be known that she went on a press run after they broke up. Mind you, they divorced, they got separated. She went on a whole run talking about being abused in a previous relationship. And she allowed the narrative to be pushed that it was him, when in fact, it was a whole nother ex that she was referencing.

B (61:17)

That's judgment. That's judgment words.

A (61:19)

She did not clear it up that it wasn't him that she was talking about. And he's like, did we ever find.

F (61:25)

Out that it wasn't him?

A (61:26)

No, but he said it in this interview. He was like, she had a whole machine behind him. And what sucks about it is what was I Supposed to do say it ain't me, when literally the narrative is that she was talking about a previous relationship. But this was literally right on the heels of them ending their relationship.

F (61:44)

Wait, real shit. How do we know it wasn't him?

A (61:45)

It wasn't him. Like, literally it was confirmed just cause you said it. It was confirmed. It was a whole nother actor, was it? No, it was another actor. Because she said she considered suicide because of this abusive relationship.

B (61:56)

Okay, but look. But she was referencing a whole nother person. And I don't know if this like the right way to approach the conversation.

A (62:02)

Let's do it.

B (62:02)

Like, if you gonna call somebody off of being abusive, you need to put a name on the bullet.

A (62:06)

You have to put a name on the bullet. Which is why I'm judging her, because she allowed the narrative to carry on that it was this guy.

B (62:12)

The apprehension that come with it. Cause I mean, if motherfucker was abusive, kind of. But if you gonna out there behavior, you kind of out there.

A (62:18)

Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I'll bring it here because it's a couple years old now. I got in trouble, quote, unquote, a little bit. Oh, and I'll probably bleep the name only. Cause I still be around people and stuff that know her. But. But when Latta was promoting her 777 album, she went on almost a press run talking about how she didn't almost get a verse cleared because there was a certain nigga on the album that was trying to advance.

F (62:45)

Wasn't she saying it was Kodak?

A (62:47)

She didn't say anything. The narrative was that it was Kodak. From my back end and my knowledge, I heard through the grapevine that it was Wayne. And boy, when I said that on my podcast, the one that no longer exists, it was like I got all these messages. And so that was my problem. I was like, as much as I support Latto, I love her. I'm a lotto Stan. Love her music. Think she's fucking bad as fuck. Love everything she's doing. As an artist, I felt like as a woman, you shouldn't be in a place to allow a narrative to go around about a man that isn't the perpetrator of this crime, mind you. Then Kodak reposted, saying that I was like, I told y' all it wasn't me. And I was just like, as women, we have to be in a place where we understand that N is monsters out here and that niggas do bullshit, right? But if we're gonna speak about the bullshit that happens anywhere. This is tough we have to put.

F (63:40)

Up then even if we're saying that I talk about a brutal and violent grape in the book from an Atlanta rapper, should I put his name on it?

A (63:48)

I mean, to me, you had the conversation with Charlamagne where you were like, like, you were like, do I say this name?

B (63:53)

Cuz at the end of the day, okay, this is, this is where I, I, I can find some middle ground in it. If you don't want to expose your abuser name out of like fear that's real, you shouldn't. You know what I'm saying? I think speaking to your experience kind of frees other people for to be able to speak about their experience. I think if a name get attached to it, who it ain't, it's your responsibility to clear.

A (64:14)

I agree with that.

F (64:15)

I think if, yeah, I agree with you. Like, if you should have.

B (64:22)

Sex crime, I've got sex crimes is like Scarlet Letter.

A (64:26)

Yeah.

B (64:27)

You can't get around it. So like, I would say if, if you don't want to expose a person's name, but another name get attached to.

A (64:33)

It, who she that wasn't the person.

F (64:35)

Do you think that women have to be able to talk about something that happened?

A (64:38)

Can I also say not only women, men too.

B (64:39)

No, everybody.

A (64:40)

Wait.

B (64:41)

Period.

A (64:43)

Well, I'm only saying that because there's a lot of things being attached right now to Tyler Perry and people are like, but it's not Tyler Perry, it's someone else. Like, the same too with men. If there's a sexual assault that's gonna come out and you're gonna give enough details to where it could be attached to anybody, and public perception connects it to someone that it's not. You have to be able to absolve that person that it's not. If you're talking about somebody else, you.

B (65:03)

Don'T even have to. And you don't have to do that. You don't have to like, say, it wasn't this person, it was that person. You like, hey, respectfully, that person had nothing to do with it.

A (65:11)

Yes.

B (65:11)

And that's it. Because like, I spoke about being molested when I was younger by a woman that was, was close to my family. And if somebody would have put a name on somebody in my family and it wasn't them, I'd have been like, hey, respectfully, it wasn't that person.

A (65:24)

It wasn't that person.

B (65:25)

I don't mean I gotta expose who it is. Cause the thing is to like to speak about an Experience it free you up, too. Cause that shit just ain't sitting in your head all motherfucking day. Or, like, dictating your actions and emotions. And step one is acknowledging shit so you can get past it. And also with a public.

F (65:41)

That's why I can't say, like, you gotta put a name on a bunch. And the reason I wanted to bring up rapper is because I think it happened when I was 19. That's when he was famous. So in my head, I'm like, oh, this is totally connected to, like, why the person I ran down in the hotel room and asked for help and they didn't do anything. It's all connected to this fame, to money, to maybe me not saying anything at that time.

A (66:03)

It's what we see with the Diddy kids.

B (66:04)

And so, like, my thing is, like, to that point, I don't think you gotta put a name on a bullet. I just think you can't allow somebody name to be put on that bitch if they ain't had nothing to do with.

F (66:13)

I mean, with Halle doing that, that was definitely her being petty. If he didn't. If it wasn't him, it probably was.

B (66:18)

Petty on some shit. Like the nigga played me or whatever the case may be. He got down. Like, I got to get down with Halle Berry, Mary, like, my ex, Halle be Harry.

A (66:25)

Like that. Can I get up? We don't have much time left, but I do want to get a little deep. Do you mind getting a little deep? No, we know. We good. Can I ask you a question? As a man who has had that experience of sexual assault, did you ever tell anyone? The woman, like, did you ever feel like you had to ask her out?

B (66:43)

I told my dad, and then I told my auntie. No.

A (66:47)

What was the response? Did she.

B (66:48)

I mean, they was distraught about the shit, but it's like that person that per. The place where I came to, it was like, I kind of did some digging and asking around, and I found out the shit had happened to her previous.

A (67:03)

Yeah, but it happened to R. Kelly, too. And we don't.

B (67:06)

I'm not absolving her. I'm just saying, like, I got to a point where I had empathy for the situation.

A (67:11)

Okay.

B (67:11)

And it's like, we both kids. You feel me? So, like, how old were you? I was 8. She was 12 or 13.

F (67:17)

And when did you tell your parents?

B (67:19)

Shit, when I was grown. Oh, yeah, My mama passed. My mama ain't never know. But my dad, I told my pops. You know what I'm saying? And then I told My auntie. And then of course, I talked about it on the podcast. And that's when my auntie called me, like, bro, what happened? Type shit. I'm not thinking about it, but I'm freed up. Cause I done told my daddy so, like, that's the person who really mattered the most is my family. He know that person. So it's like, for me, it's not important to put a name because I also know what that person's life look like right now they're going through.

F (67:48)

Do you know that's what I put at the end of my chapter? What I was like, at first I was feeling bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But at the end of the day, only one of us on top right now. It's something about. And I hate that I felt vindicated, validated through it, but it's not. And granted, even if he wasn't, I.

B (68:03)

Don'T even think that person can go no lower.

F (68:05)

So it like, oh my, this one ain't that bad.

B (68:08)

But he definitely ain't, you know, ain't. He ain't that type shit.

F (68:11)

Now, what I did feel, because I was thinking, if he had money, would I feel. I actually think it would be harder to tell the story because all I would think is people would think I want money.

B (68:19)

Yeah, Women get into. Because it's like, oh, you just trying to take down a powerful nigga or you just trying to get some money over. But then it's like, if the nigga done fell off, then it become a thing of like, why you ain't say nothing when it was this and that, why you ain't say this? So like, oh, you damned if you.

A (68:37)

Do, damned if you don't.

B (68:38)

Yeah, all the time. I think also too, it's like this victim blaming shit of like, we gonna judge the person that out the other person. Instead of like inquiring about, like, the person that's being accused of it. Like, no, no, absolve yourself of this, bro. Cause like, what the fuck you got going on?

F (68:55)

The way that the Internet has turned, we are never going. I'm telling you. It's so hard for women to say something. I contemplate it so much like, are people gonna think I'm trying to sell a book because I talked about this fuck, nigga. Like, what is it? But in reality, it's the chapter, but.

B (69:07)

It'S your life and your experience, bro. That's like, first of all, too, like, n ain't trying to monetize off that for real. But if we talking and we Keeping it Real. The name of the book, no holds barred. So it's like. Like I'm gonna keep it real about my experience also too. It's like with a platform, there's people out here that need to feel seen.

A (69:25)

Immediately, that need voices that don't.

B (69:26)

They need voices right.

A (69:27)

Feel like they have.

B (69:28)

Even if they can't express it outwardly, at least they know they not alone in the shit. Because oftentimes when we go through like real traumatic experiences, we think we the only person that been through it. Even if we don't, even if we know we not, it still feel because you can't tell nobody around you. And so like, when I came out and was vocal about my situation, the amount of men that just came out with their stories and like, was expressive about it. Women too, you know what I'm saying? But a lot of niggas was freed up.

F (69:53)

Cause we don't hear about men's stories.

A (69:56)

No, it's supposed to be. That's how you become a man. Yeah.

F (69:59)

Not supposed to tell. You should have been happy.

B (70:02)

I think the sentiment that people need to take away is that children aren't safe. It's children, children, children ain't.

A (70:07)

It's not a man and woman thing. It's not a boy, girl thing.

B (70:09)

It's a children manifest into a man and woman thing when these children grow up. So like, I had expressed like the person. The person who goes through a traumatic experience either traumatized somebody else or they further traumatize themselves. So like, you don't know which route that shit gonna take. So by being honest and like advocating for these kids and believing these kid when they say something, instead of trying to protect these adults, shit, we could end the cycle of that.

A (70:33)

Cause let's be very clear. These adults know right from a motherfucking home. They motherfucker knew that.

F (70:38)

The preteen did too.

B (70:39)

No, for sure she better. She knew better. But at the same time, it's like that my whole brain up. I ain't on.

A (70:46)

Well, I hate to cut this conversation short, but you're going to join us for a. You got decisions.

B (70:52)

Tight.

F (70:53)

Boom.

A (70:53)

And I got a good one for you too. So I'm excited. It's about a CEO with an inmate. Yeah, we going for.

B (71:01)

We going for y'.

A (71:03)

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B (71:09)

More of your Takes the grass podcast on YouTube and Patreon deontay.com on Instagram and Tik Tok Big Ice Cup Cat, my dog.

A (71:18)

Period.

B (71:19)

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A (71:20)

If we knew you was coming, we would put you on a mic too. Next time. At this point we going to have.

B (71:24)

To have a part two. This like literally his vibe, like, love it.

A (71:27)

We going have to have a part two with you.

B (71:28)

Yeah, we can do a part two.

A (71:29)

All right, well y', all, thank y' all so very much for listening to another episode. If you haven't yet, get your book no Holds Fire to do a manifesto of sexual exploration and power wherever you get books and join us on Patreon patreon.com Horrible Decisions this has been another episode of Decisions Decisions by.

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