EP 442: Roses & Break-Ups (ft. Serayah)

Summary

Decisions, Decisions – EP 442: Roses & Break-Ups (ft. Serayah)

Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Mandii B & WeezyWTF
Guest: Serayah (actress, singer)

---

Overview

In this candid and vibrant episode of “Decisions, Decisions,” Mandii B and WeezyWTF welcome actress and singer Serayah (Ruth & Boaz, Empire) for a conversation spanning celebrity encounters, boundaries in relationships, the complexity of “truths” and omissions, the dynamics of supportive partnerships, and reflections on the new Netflix film “Ruth & Boaz.” The hosts and guest dive into the messiness, joy, and vulnerability of love, fame, and self-expression as Black women in their 30s.

---

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrity Encounter Icebreakers (00:37–13:05)

• The episode kicks off with playful banter and fun, with Mandii and Weezy sharing wild celebrity encounters—including stories involving Babyface and Doja Cat.
• Serayah details her own “pinch me” studio session with Babyface, expressing awe at collaborating with a musical legend for “Ruth & Boaz.”

  “When I heard the songs that Babyface wrote, I was like, oh, wow. And I started singing. I'm like, these do feel like low key country.” (01:46, Serayah)

• Weezy shares a hilarious and cringy story about her mom fangirling over Babyface at Thanksgiving (03:43).
• Serayah describes her moment meeting Beyoncé at the VMAs while she was with “Taylor Swift and the Squad.” Beyoncé’s words—“You’re doing amazing”—were meaningful, validating her career in a subtle but powerful way.

  “She like comes to me, and she's like, you're doing amazing.” (10:59, Serayah)

---

2. Truth & Dare: On Omissions in Relationships (14:38–28:29)

• Mandii facilitates a “Truth & Dare” game, using the movie as springboard for real talk about what people conceal (or reveal) in relationships.

• Serayah opens up about the nuances of what she shares or omits with new partners, noting that while honesty around cheating is important, there are boundaries when it comes to disclosing deeply personal information about ex-partners (16:34).

• Weezy emphasizes presenting oneself as someone who’s had healthy relationships, not just past pain. She shares a listener’s story about dating women with generational trauma and how that influences dating outlooks (18:19).

  Notable moment:

  • Discussion on what baggage is “fair” to share early in dating, and how much is too much for a first date.
  • Mandii: “...if you're with somebody and you wanna be with them, unfortunately, you do take on their trauma.”

On Sexual Openness

• The “Dare” has Serayah improvise a 15-second steamy hook using “rose,” “milk,” and “slow.”
• This veers into a playful segment on sex toys (“the rose,” “the womanizer”), the stigma of masturbation, and humor about sexual wellness (25:09–28:39).

---

3. Reacting to Relationship “Break Up” Advice (29:00–38:29)

• Clip played from another show arguing that every couple should break up at least once before truly committing, as real character is revealed during break-ups.
• The hosts, along with Serayah, largely disagree:
  • Serayah believes tough friction and raw moments can expose character, but doesn’t support intentionally breaking up to “test” someone, or repeated breakups as a measure of depth.

  “I do agree with the sentiment...but I have never broken up with someone for like, let's break up. Let's take a break and come back. I've never done that before.” (31:34, Serayah)

  • Weezy argues that someone’s true self is revealed through challenge, loss, and adversity—not game-playing break-ups.

  “There are so many things in life that will show you who someone is. Pain, struggle, someone losing a job.” (34:46, Weezy)

---

4. “Ruth & Boaz” Film Talk: Timing, Love Bombing & Faith (40:00–49:12)

• In-depth discussion of the movie, its themes on patience, persistence, gender roles, and biblical context.
• Mandii asks if women (or men) should “wait it out” for someone to be relationship-ready; Serayah says, “…if you want to be treated like the man and the leader and the everything, then you need to know what you want. And if it's not me, then…” (41:14)
• Hosts debate “love bombing” versus genuine pursuit, referencing Beau’s character as “almost love bomber, almost too perfect.”
• The faith-based origins of the “Ruth and Boaz” story are explored, with Weezy expressing appreciation for healthy, nuanced representations of religious young people.

---

5. Dynamics of Support for Successful Women (54:26–62:50)

• Serayah breaks down what “showing up” in a relationship looks like for a busy, successful woman in entertainment:

  • Emotional support, attention to details, public celebration, and genuine pride.
  • She contrasts this with insecure men who struggle with not being the center of attention or can’t handle women’s ambition.
  • Discusses balancing masculine/feminine energies, expressing that successful women should and can “bring femininity” home if that feels right to them.

  “Showing up for me just looks like acknowledging what I'm doing or even remembering the details...But not showing up, I have also dealt with in the past.” (54:26, Serayah)

• Hosts reflect on societal expectations, how “soft life” and “independent woman” narratives shape dating goals, and the impact of being raised in single-parent homes on relationship norms.

---

6. Parenting & Partnership Logistics (62:50–68:00)

• Serayah discusses how she and her fiancé juggle parenting duties given both have busy schedules, highlighting teamwork and practical coordination.
  • “...what do you have for this week? What are you doing tomorrow? What's on the agenda? Like, how do we make this work? Because once again, he supports what I'm doing and I support what he's doing. This is who I was when you met me…” (61:34, Serayah)
• She expresses her belief that women’s money is hers to save or invest, while her fiancé “fronts most of the things”—but stresses couples should do what works for their unique dynamic.

---

7. Fun Segments: Hoetry & Pop Quizzes (48:37–53:08)

• “Hoetry” segment: Serayah identifies lyrics from Beyoncé and Joey Bada$$ as poetry, sharing laughs over steamy lines and musical memories.
• The hosts and Serayah recall classic lyrics from “Baby Got Back,” and joke about R&B/rap’s persistent sexual overtones.

---

8. Personal & Behind-the-Scenes (69:01–71:36)

• Serayah reveals she was secretly pregnant during filming of “Ruth & Boaz,” facing morning sickness while shooting on-location.
• She shares the challenge of not revealing her pregnancy to colleagues and the support she received from the female director.

---

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On authenticity early in relationships:
  “I feel like things that I grew to know about him, it was just very open...I didn't have to go into the whole...there was no pressure.” (36:50, Serayah)
• On breaking up as a “test”:
  “You should not have to be separated for true colors. There are so many things in life that will show you who someone is.” (34:46, Weezy)
• On women’s masculine-feminine balance:
  “I feel like there could be an insecure man...But I do know that also a lot of successful, educated women can be. They can probably not just sit in their feminine...because they're so used to operating in their masculine.” (56:15, Serayah)
• On the parental dynamic:
  “It looks very much like, you know, baby, sleep down for the night. What do you have for this week? What are you doing tomorrow? What's on the agenda? Like, how do we make this work?” (61:34, Serayah)
• On lessons from “Ruth & Boaz”:
  “I would hope that their takeaway is Community. Leaning into your community. She did that a lot in the film…and real love. All these hashtags, we just said, it's exhausting. We're making it harder.” (66:16, Serayah)

---

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Celebrity Stories & Icebreakers: 00:37 – 13:05
• Truth Game: Omissions in Relationships: 14:38 – 17:15
• Sexual Openness/Jokes about Sex Toys: 25:09 – 28:39
• Reacting to “Break Up Before Marriage” Advice: 29:00 – 38:29
• Film & Relationship Dynamics: 40:00 – 49:12
• Hoetry & Music Pop Quiz: 48:37 – 53:08
• Successful Women & Partnership: 54:26 – 62:50
• Parenting/Logistics: 62:50 – 68:00
• Behind the Scenes: Filming While Pregnant: 69:01 – 71:36

---

Closing & Recommendations

• Sarayah’s message for viewers of “Ruth & Boaz”:
  Lean into your community and real, vulnerable love—ditch the exhausting pressures of modern dating's competing narratives.
• Listen to “Put That Shit On” (PDSO), her new single, and “Ruined” from the film soundtrack.

---

Tone & Language

The episode is lively, raw, and relatable—full of laughter, anecdote, and sisterly wisdom. The hosts and Serayah speak candidly in Black vernacular, blending humor with earnest conversation and real-life experience.

---

For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode is an energetic, insightful exploration of what it means to navigate love, success, and boundaries as a modern Black woman. If you’re interested in honest talk about sex, dating, ambition, and faith—with extra pop-culture flavor—this is a must-listen!

---

Transcript

[Saraya]

This is an iHeart podcast.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

Yo. Do you know Ball? We'll come through with a free $10 from Better Picks. Download the Better app, pick more or less on your favorite player stats, watch the games, and win some cash. It's that simple. Must be 21 or older. In a jurisdiction where Better Picks operates. Terms and conditions apply. Better Picks. Sports just got better.

[Weezy]

Welcome to Decisions Decision.

[Mandy V]

I don't think you should say Decision, Decision. It sounded like you was talking. It cursed him.

[Weezy]

You definitely say the welcome.

[Mandy V]

Welcome to the new podcast.

[Weezy]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together?

[Mandy V]

Decisions, Decisions.

[Saraya]

Today on Decisions Decisions. Ladies.

[Mandy V]

Oh, there we go. That's all we needed. That's all we needed. Welcome, y', all to another episode of Decisions, Decisions. I'm your girl, Mandy V, AKA Peg Thee Stallion, AKA Peggy Markle, AKA Peggy Bundy, AKA that bitch.

[Weezy]

Hey, y', all, I'm Weezy and we have a guest in the building. Don't know if you've ever heard of Ruth. We can call her Babe Ruth or.

[Mandy V]

We can reference her as Saraya. Y'. All. She is a singer, actress, and all around creative powerhouse. You may have first fell in love with her as Teyana Brown on Fox's hit series Empire. And since then she's lit up the screen in films like Burning Sands and Favorite Sun. But also most recently because we all got Netflix, Ruth and Boaz. She also has her own lane in music with her R and B infused sound. Welcome to the goddamn podcast.

[Saraya]

Thank you for having me.

[Weezy]

It just hit me when you said R and B and the cow pants. Is this for the country girl? For the songs for the country theme.

[Mandy V]

By the way, the movie theme. Them was some country songs.

[Saraya]

They were. And that was actually the part for me that was so different. But I loved it.

[Mandy V]

I love that you ain't put no accent on it.

[Saraya]

No, no, no, no.

[Mandy V]

Cause you was like, I'm never in a girl. Yeah, no, that was cute.

[Saraya]

No, for sure. But I definitely. When I heard the songs that Babyface wrote, I was like, oh, wow. And I started singing. I'm like, these do feel like low key country.

[Mandy V]

Wait a second, wait a second. So that wasn't acting? He wrote them songs?

[Saraya]

No, he really wrote the song.

[Weezy]

So let me.

[Mandy V]

Let me tell you some tea just so that you know who you're sitting with. You're in the presence of greatness.

[Saraya]

Yes, please.

[Mandy V]

During ESSENCE Fest, we actually followed Babyface on stage and introduced Maxwell. I have to tell everyone, that was a highlight of the year.

[Saraya]

Really?

[Mandy V]

So literally, Babyface, all his tunes, all his things. So I got your excitement in the show.

[Saraya]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy V]

Cause, baby, I was like, oh, my God, I know all this music. And I was like, this nigga gotta be rich, because these are the jams. You know what I mean? And so, literally, Babyface is coming off stage, and we're, like, prepping our little Tunis.

[Saraya]

Did you say something?

[Mandy V]

Yeah, we had to. Yeah. We was on stage.

[Weezy]

We just stared at him.

[Mandy V]

No, no, we literally didn't say anything. We just saw his greatness walk down the stairs.

[Saraya]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Mandy V]

Okay. Where are our cue cards at? That's Babyface.

[Weezy]

Have I told you my Babyface story about Thanksgiving?

[Mandy V]

No.

[Weezy]

What? Oh, y'. All. So embarrassing.

[Saraya]

I acted like I knew. Like, I had an opportunity to know.

[Weezy]

Before when I said y'. All. I'm thinking like listeners, Mandy. Okay, so. Oh, I hate to make it dark. So I don't really spend Thanksgiving with my parents anymore because my dad, he's just kind of in, you know, not the greatest health. So. My mom and I have been spending Thanksgivings with QuestLong, which is a flex in its own. So you would think, like, oh, you're gonna be with the family. We pull up to Thanksgiving, and the first person we see is Baby Face. And I grabbed my mom's hand and I said, please don't say anything. Why would I say anything? I'm cool. I'm playing it cool. She has three cocktails.

[Mandy V]

We sit down.

[Weezy]

Mother's sitting next to me. Kenneth is sitting across from my mother. Right on the third sip of that third cocktail, she goes, I just gotta say, baby Face, this is a great Thanksgiving. I mean, did anybody think they'd be.

[Mandy V]

Eating with Baby Face?

[Weezy]

And everybody's really looking like, yeah, we did. So here she go. Here she go, leaning in. I'm not gonna ask you to sing. And he goes, great. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna ask you. Then, few sips later. Questlove. Everyone's calling him Amir. Do you think we could get tickets to your show? He's looking like, what show? I have 18 upcoming shows, Mama. The one with Jimmy Kimmel. He's not on Jimmy Kimmel. He's on Jimmy Fallon.

[Saraya]

And then she.

[Mandy V]

I mean, the Jimmy Zoo. I mean, it's the Jimmy's.

[Saraya]

Yes, a lot of Jimmy's.

[Mandy V]

You know, there's a lot of Jimmies.

[Weezy]

Then decides after the fourth cocktail to move over Babyface's girl and sit by him to say, I say we go to the Jimmy Kimmel show together. Uh, oh, girl, I wanted to die. Anyway, every time I see this man.

[Mandy V]

My head goes down.

[Weezy]

I have nothing to say.

[Mandy V]

I love it.

[Weezy]

My mother moved over his girlfriend Thanksgiving dinner.

[Mandy V]

Come on, move, baby. I'm not gonna lie. Her mom is wild. We now have things in common. I was told not to talk to Doja Cat, and I sure did, bitch.

[Saraya]

Cause what I wish somebody would tell me not.

[Weezy]

Okay, you tell the story and then we gotta hear your celebrity story.

[Mandy V]

I would love to know your celebrity story of where you have to, you have to. We're now sharing stories. This is like a little bit of an icebreaker. So anyways. Well, now I'm not gonna tell y' all who told me not to do it, but it was like a spoken word in the vehicle. We knew that Doja Cat was gonna be around us that night. And clearly, bitch, Amala is my girl. So wait, but you couldn't speak literally, because clearly I'm a fan. And yeah, like, it was on some, like, don't really, like, make it awkward. Don't let her know you're a fan. And I was like, bitch, I'm full of tail. I'm talented. So anyways, I end up at. We end up at this rooftop in la. It's gorgeous. She's there sitting right across from us.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God, not mama crazy.

[Mandy V]

And I'm like, so mind you, I'm like, not gonna speak nothing. She's sitting there with this little long ass, like, cigarette, maybe getting ready for her 80s era. I wasn't ready. So literally just sitting there freaking. I look to the side of me and there's a whole phone by me. And I'm like, oh, shit, somebody left their phone. Mind you, this is a big ass fucking party. So I'm like, oh, shit, somebody left their phone. So I'm sitting here and I'm just holding. Holding this phone. There's cards in the back. So I look through the cards in the back.

[Saraya]

It's not her, bitch.

[Mandy V]

It's Joseph Quinn.

[Weezy]

Oh, bitch.

[Mandy V]

Her boyfriend.

[Weezy]

The white one, bitch.

[Mandy V]

The one from motherfucking Stranger Things. So I said, oh, I noticed that. So mind you, I'm like, well, bitch, now I got her boyfriend's phone. This is gonna be. This is gonna be organic. You know what I mean? It's gonna be organic.

[Weezy]

Cause what you doing with myself and stuff?

[Mandy V]

Well, no, I don't know where he put it down in the. But somehow his phone landed in my hand. So I go to Joseph and I. And I'm like, so I think you lost something. He's like, oh, my God. Cause you know oh, my God, thank you so much. Didn't even know I lost the Lego.

[Saraya]

He.

[Mandy V]

He's like, what do you want? Do you want a drink, bitch?

[Saraya]

It's open bar.

[Mandy V]

What are you gonna give me, sir? This is an open bar event. So it's so funny. So I give him his phone. He's like, oh, my God, thank you. Whatever you need. And I was like, no, it's cool, it's cool, it's cool. So literally, she's coming back now from the bathroom as we're talking, and I go to walk away, and I never want anyone to say that I'm a white woman. She said, girl, your hair is giving Sharon Stone. And I said, bitch, isn't it? So, literally, mind you, we're like probably the only black people in the whole party. Mind you, we're only half. So there's only about two and a half of us in the whole room. There's two and a half of us in the whole room. And literally the whole night, she's just like. She just keeps talking and chatting. We end up going down by this pool, bro, no lie, because LA weather sucks. And I got my shoulders out and I'm looking cute. She's like, babe, you look cold. She takes off her blazer and gives it to me. No. And at this point, we're fucking friends. So we go to fucking. We're talking. She's talking about how I think the cigarette is called the F word out in London. And we're talking about this word and how she loves the word, but how she's just that bitch and how she.

[Weezy]

Oh, we know she love a crazy word. We've seen it on the stream.

[Mandy V]

Well, there's this guy smoking the cigarette and we're talking about just how he looks so posh, but it looks better in a woman's mouth. And she's just one of the coolest bitches fucking ever. Shout out to her album, Go get it Now. V is out. This is not an ad. And so literally, as we go, mind you, she's been talking to me the whole night. And I say at the end, I just have to tell you how much I love you. And my friend who told me that I wasn't supposed to say anything to her, really kind of had to say something. I had to let him know. No, we're friends, just so you know.

[Weezy]

But did she follow you now?

[Mandy V]

No, we didn't exchange numbers or anything like that. But literally that night I was told not to say something. And at the end I was like, oh, girl, I breathed that Beyonce's air.

[Weezy]

And I was like, bruh, when we were hanging out that weekend in Paris, and they was like, bitch, you saw her for a second.

[Mandy V]

Now I need to know. Cause you. You've been around. Not like that, but you be around. Like the celebs.

[Saraya]

Yes. Oh, thank you.

[Mandy V]

Soft spoken with you.

[Weezy]

Made you gay. Who made you, like.

[Mandy V]

No, I'm gonna say something.

[Weezy]

I don't care.

[Saraya]

Okay. I would say Babyface, because obviously we're working, and I'm just, like, so nervous. First of all. Well, to be in his presence. Secondly, to work with him in the studio, I'm just like, oh, my gosh.

[Weezy]

Now this is for what, the scene we saw in the movie.

[Saraya]

Yeah. Like, well, well, okay. So all of the songs recorded, he wrote. So I flew to LA to record with him at his studio. I was losing.

[Mandy V]

In his house.

[Saraya]

No, not in his house, at his studio.

[Weezy]

Because they don't start. I'll be like, let me go to the bathroom now. I'm gonna look around.

[Saraya]

No, no, no. I was not at his house.

[Mandy V]

Oh, you got to. You got to.

[Saraya]

Actually, I got to actually work with him. Like, really work with him, which was crazy. So it's like, pinch me moment. But I would say another moment for me. I mean, I don't even know. It was probably like 2017. I don't even know. 16, 17, maybe.

[Mandy V]

Who in 2017?

[Saraya]

Beyonce.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Okay. Where were you set? The scene, what she smelled like, what she have on?

[Saraya]

So VMAs. I was with Taylor Swift and the Squad at that time.

[Mandy V]

Oh, my God.

[Saraya]

I was at that time. You know, it was. It was giving that. You know.

[Mandy V]

Right.

[Saraya]

I was a black girl in the gang, and well, there was two and a half of us, I guess. And. And yeah, so we're backstage and we're like, oh, my gosh, congrats. I think it's me. Look, another side effect. Me. Selena and Gomez and Taylor.

[Mandy V]

Look, we know it was the other Selena.

[Saraya]

It wasn't the other Selena. So. God, Mandy, listen, these, by the way, these girls are just. They're so sweet. I haven't seen their talk. Talked to them in years, but so sweet. So we're this moment. Taylor got the award, and Beyonce's just, like, walking backstage. Right? And this is like prime time Empire. Like, people are doing watch parties. Like, this is like, Empire is like Tiana. I'm Tia. Yeah. Like, I'm just Siana. Like, I don't have a name yet. So. So. So she's walking and literally, I kind of see her out the corner of my eye. But I'm like, okay. Like, I'm like, congratulations, you know, with Taylor, and literally walks by, and she, like, comes to me, and she's like, you're doing amazing.

[Mandy V]

Oh, she spoke to you?

[Saraya]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no.

[Saraya]

And I was like. And I was like. She was, like, leaving. She just, like, drops that and, like.

[Mandy V]

And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Saraya]

I live at the. Thank you.

[Mandy V]

Because Beyonce watching tv. Yeah, Beyonce be watching the thing.

[Saraya]

No. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

She know what's going on. She don't talk to us, but she know what's going on. So she was watching Empire.

[Weezy]

She said something.

[Saraya]

Exactly. And I was like. I was trying to, like, say thank you, but also, like, you didn't say nothing back. Yes, I did. I was trying to say, like, oh, my God, I love you. Like, I was doing that. Cause I was like, I don't care. Like, when do. When am I gonna see Beyonce? When are you gonna see Beyonce again? Like, you have to.

[Weezy]

Did you ever see her again?

[Saraya]

No.

[Mandy V]

See, wait, you not in person.

[Weezy]

No, I'm not gonna be in a relationship. I'm famous, and you famous, nigga.

[Mandy V]

And we ain't never getting no more Beyonce interaction. You don't even know, mind you. Year one, we talk a little rowdy on here. Literally wheezy. And I'll never forget it. Said that she would.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

Suck a fart out of Beyonce's ass after Taco Bell.

[Weezy]

That was. That's how much it was the year you saw her.

[Mandy V]

Yikes.

[Weezy]

How much she.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, that's when we started the ball.

[Saraya]

After Taco Bell. It's pretty crazy After Taco Bell. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

That's how much she loves.

[Weezy]

I would say it again now.

[Saraya]

I love.

[Weezy]

What's even crazier is all that big, bold, bad shit. So my business partner and I got to be at a, you know, the foundation Louis Vuitton show.

[Mandy V]

No, this is where you urge them to go to Patreon because you shared the whole story on Patreon.

[Weezy]

Oh, no. I was gonna say, we got to be around them at an after party. And the whole time.

[Saraya]

Who's them?

[Weezy]

Beyonce and Jay in an after party. Small, maybe less than 50 people. And the whole time, all we could do is just sit there and do this to each other. You say something. You say, no. I'm gonna say no. Okay. So then he pulls out his phone. I'm like, what are you doing? Figuring out what I'm gonna say.

[Saraya]

Writing it in the notes. I think, oh, I lied. Party.

[Mandy V]

Look at you. So you did see it. You did see.

[Weezy]

Oh my God. I heard she had.

[Saraya]

But that was al everyone did. By the way, it was one of the best things.

[Weezy]

Which gold party was it?

[Saraya]

Oh, it was years ago. It had to be when Black Panther.

[Mandy V]

Oh, Chad.

[Saraya]

Yeah, yeah, he was there. Like it was like when that movie first was like.

[Mandy V]

That's right.

[Saraya]

So all the.

[Mandy V]

All the black excellence.

[Annabe Sponsor]

Life's messy. We're talking spills, stains, pets and kids. But with Annabe, you never have to stress about messes again. @washablesofas.com Discover Annabe sofas. The only fully machine washable sofas inside and out. Starting at just $699. Made with liquid and stain resistant fabrics. That means feed fewer stains and more peace of mind. Designed for real life, our sofas feature changeable fabric covers allowing you to refresh your style anytime. Need flexibility. Our modular design lets you rearrange your sofa effortlessly. Perfect for cozy apartments or spacious homes. Plus, they're earth friendly and built to last. That's why over 200,000 happy customers have made the switch. Upgrade your space today. Visit washablesofas.com now and bring home a sofa made for life. That's washablesofas.com offers are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

Do you actually know Ball?

[Mandy V]

Well, come prove it with a free.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

$10 from Better Picks. Download the Better app, pick more or less on player stats, watch the games and win cash. It's that simple.

[Mandy V]

Must be 21 or older. In a jurisdiction where Better Picks operates. Terms and conditions apply.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

Better Picks. Sports just got better.

[Weezy]

I know we're supposed to talk about your movie.

[Mandy V]

I'm like, we gonna get there, we gonna get there.

[Weezy]

But this is so much more.

[Mandy V]

Okay, actually, you know what? Let's we. We kind of broke the ice with Beyonce.

[Saraya]

We did.

[Mandy V]

But we're gonna break the ice with a little truth. A. Love B. I don't like people choosing cuz you give people truth or dare. They want to be boring and choose truth. So technically I make people do both. You actually have no choice. Okay, so the first one we're gonna do is truth.

[Saraya]

I'm nervous.

[Mandy V]

And this does lean into the new Netflix film, so. And it actually leans into your personal life. So in Ruth and Boaz, Ruth refers to herself as a liar at the end of the movie and is corrected by Beau with him saying, well, you omitted information. And we talk about this all the time. What's the difference between lying and just not telling somebody? Like white lies? Pibbing all the things so was there anything that you have purposely kept from a potential parter, a potential partner, out of shame or trauma or fear that they would judge you if they knew this to be true about you?

[Saraya]

Yeah, for sure.

[Mandy V]

Now you gotta tell us what it was. Oh, no.

[Weezy]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yes.

[Mandy V]

You thought that was it.

[Saraya]

You thought.

[Mandy V]

You just had to say.

[Saraya]

I mean, honestly, I mean, not to be boring, but I just feel like for. I feel like it's past partners. Because it's. Because it's. I don't know where this is going. I want to see where this is going first. Maybe should I say something? Maybe I shouldn't. And I think that it's a. I feel like it's a normal thing to do, and I think both parties do it. If you're, to a certain extent, right. Obviously, if it's someone that's in your circle or that we, like, are around, like, you have to say those things. But if it's something before, I feel like it's natural if you're in a new situation to kind of just like, reserve.

[Mandy V]

So let me ask you then, what would be, like, the top two things if you're newly dating and in previous experiences for you, what two things about previous relationships were you like, I ain't bringing up. Was it like, if your partner cheated? Was it. If you cheated, Was it the dynamic of the, like, what things do you make sure not to bring up in new blossoming relationships about your past relationships?

[Saraya]

Well, if somebody cheated, I. I'm gonna say that, like, I have no problem saying that the person cheated.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

Or I have no problem saying if I did that as well. But have not. Have not.

[Mandy V]

You haven't. Okay.

[Saraya]

Yeah, I thought you really are. But I have no problem because here's the thing. I mean, I feel like. I always feel like it's like, what do you want with the person? Right. And I feel like if you want something authentic and real, that I feel like you have to try to put yourself in that. That space with them. But what do you think there are, like. No, no. Like, I would. I would never share, like, personal life information of my past partner.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

I feel like that's just a little messy.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Saraya]

Like, things that we shared in confidence. That was like, about him solely. I think that I just. I wouldn't talk about that.

[Mandy V]

That's. You're. You're now in a new relationship. I know we share our lives on goddamn podcast, but for a partner who hasn't went through all fudgeing, 400 plus episodes. Was there anything specific about your past relationship that you didn't share with your partner. Now out the gate like that. It took a while to share.

[Weezy]

I would say the harder pain of like. So maybe we've all said a guy cheated, but I never disclosed how bad it was because I didn't want him to think, oh, well, you stayed with it. You let a nigga just run through you. Like, I really think that we kind of need to show up as, hey, I've had men treat me well. I've had these good situations. I've had partners that have honored me. Like, I've had good relationships. I think it's really important, actually. We have a segment called we Listen and We judge. I want to read you really quickly a text message I got maybe an hour ago.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wow.

[Weezy]

We asked for pre consent with anything that we share.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Weezy]

And this text message really surprised me from a friend. He went out with a really popular model last night. Fashion Week. Shit. They met, said, how was it? She's beautiful. No doubt. Her story is just so sad that it just feels like she's going to be a generational curse to me. Honestly, I said, so. Bitch got a bad pass and it's a problem for you? He said, just mad issues with men. Her mom's got the issues, her sister's got the issues. It's a cycle of trauma that I'm just not up to heal, bro.

[Saraya]

Well, it's not for you to heal, honey.

[Weezy]

But I'm like thinking to myself on a first date, you must have.

[Saraya]

I mean, that's a lot for.

[Mandy V]

No, no.

[Weezy]

And that's the thing about hiding. You got to hold some of that shit.

[Mandy V]

It's funny, though, that he referenced. It's a lot for him to heal. I think it's funny because even one of the things that Cardi B shared during her rollout was like, that Staphon Diggs was gonna be there to help heal her through her past relationship and trauma. And it's interesting because whether you want to do it or whether you sign up to do it, at the end of the day, if you're with somebody and you wanna be with them, unfortunately, you do take on their trauma. You take on some of their baggage, you take on whatever they're dealing with, mental health wise, you. You deal with their past relationships in terms of children, you deal with their family. And so where he said that, I'm not mad at him for that. I was kind of. I'm not mad at that. Like, bro, there's certain things right now, bro, if you got like, very clear. Diagnosed mental health problems, bro. I ain't got the patience for us. I'm gonna be real honest with you.

[Weezy]

But to say you thought he was gonna have generational curses.

[Mandy V]

I mean. I mean, maybe that was his way of expressing, like, how intense it was. But I'm not mad with that. Like, I mean, Ruth came in, like.

[Saraya]

She came in hot.

[Mandy V]

You deal with me.

[Saraya]

She. She came in hot with the trauma. Yeah. And he was like, well, not good.

[Mandy V]

Not off gate. She kept it.

[Saraya]

Yeah, not off gate.

[Mandy V]

He.

[Saraya]

He kind of was persistent. I was like, all right, well, if you want to know, then I don't.

[Weezy]

Know what you're doing with Ms. Naomi, but whatever.

[Saraya]

So I feel like. I feel like one or two. I feel you on that. Because it's like, that's very immature of you to be like, okay, I'm not in the space to deal with A, B, and C. And him too. I think that is interesting, that. I think it's interesting he chose that response. And I think it's interesting that she chose to share that.

[Mandy V]

To share that.

[Saraya]

Yeah. So honestly, it must have been something.

[Weezy]

Along the lines of, like, oh, that is pretty heavy. I'm single. My dad wasn't.

[Mandy V]

Blah, blah, blah.

[Weezy]

Like, whatever it was, cuz. What I've been.

[Mandy V]

Well, at least she ain't open up with. I'm broke, cuz apparently, that's the thing in Atlanta now, all the bitches letting it be known that they need help with bills. So I'm not mad with her opening and sharing. I've been through some things that I don't feel safe with men. Like, I still want to date y' all niggas, but that's what I'm saying. No. And I don't know.

[Weezy]

I mean, for a grown man, he's mid-30s. He was like, yeah, bro. Like, I'm not dealing with this. I do think there is a space of where we kind of got to show up as a better version. Right? We're not going to always be at our best. We're always still healing, no matter what. But I do think going on a first date, you can't be in the space where you still, like, I hate every man. You know what I mean?

[Saraya]

Like, you shouldn't be there.

[Weezy]

Oh, I shouldn't be on the date.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I've been there.

[Weezy]

I mean, five shots deep, trying to heal the pain.

[Saraya]

No, I mean, for sure. But, like, for it to go somewhere, it's like, I mean, let's get in the writer's room.

[Mandy V]

Your character pissed Me off. What did she do when she was like, you like all them other in Atlanta and that man was fine. I didn't hear a word he said the whole movie.

[Weezy]

I ain't even going to hold that pissed me off. No, no, no.

[Mandy V]

Like, bro, I need. I need. Like, I'm sorry.

[Saraya]

That was very bold of her, bro.

[Mandy V]

It was very. It's very bold of the casting to choose someone that could literally stand there the whole movie and not say anything.

[Weezy]

So I watched it with the homegirl who's from Atlanta and very vocal. And we sit in there and when that scene came on the screen, she just starts talking to Ruth. She said, oh, so this bitch really thinks she with Joey in the movie.

[Mandy V]

Who the fuck she talking about?

[Weezy]

He like, everybody.

[Mandy V]

Then we wait 55 minutes to get.

[Weezy]

That and then I can't.

[Saraya]

Girl, get it together.

[Weezy]

She piss me off.

[Saraya]

I know, I know.

[Mandy V]

And I like that little. But you took that car when you first. When you first saw good old Ruth, you did a good job. Like, yeah, bitch, you better look at that fine ass, man. Cuz we all would have looked at him that way, too. I'm ignoring.

[Saraya]

We're going to the clip that we're.

[Weezy]

Talking, by the way, for anybody watching on YouTube. We are going to insert this clip so you could just see what we saw. Baby, I don't.

[Mandy V]

They done saw it by now.

[Weezy]

Honestly, I thought I was pregnant when I watched it. I felt it growing inside of me. Me and Miracle was gonna be baby mamas together.

[Mandy V]

He got on that screen with no shirt on and he building a house. He's building a home and giving out cars and jobs.

[Weezy]

Oh, okay.

[Mandy V]

I'm here for it. Shout out to the writers of Ruth and Boaz. Sorry, Miracle. Cause, baby, I ain't gonna hold you. I wouldn't want my nigga being displayed as such a wonderful man on tv. Make my nigga like Michael Ealy in the movies so everyone hates him if my man looks that good. I needed you to be casted as a Michael Ealy in everything you play. Wait. Because I want women to be.

[Weezy]

What movie was Joey in? And he was looking stressed. What was it he was like. What was the film he was in? Was it a short film?

[Saraya]

Two Distant Strangers.

[Weezy]

Was it Two Distant Strangers? And he was running somewhere. It was like he was running. Didn't he play in a movie?

[Saraya]

Yeah, I think that's what you're talking about.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Saraya]

It kept replaying.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Saraya]

Yeah, the short film.

[Weezy]

I remember watching that thing and being like, we need to see him in A happy mood. That was what I was thinking. I'm like, you can't have nobody fine like this dressed out.

[Saraya]

Hold on, girl. Now, no, Ruth was dressed too.

[Weezy]

You see, once she got in the.

[Saraya]

Club, she was out.

[Mandy V]

And I was like, you need to.

[Weezy]

See her in them jeans.

[Mandy V]

Well, speaking about the club, you were put on the spot, so I'm putting you on the spot for dare. And we're making it a little sexy.

[Saraya]

Okay?

[Mandy V]

So for dare, I need you to improvise because you're a singer. A 15 second steamy R&B hook using three random words that we're gonna throw at you.

[Weezy]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

I'm gonna start and I'm just gonna throw out rose. Cause it could mean a nice rose or the rose you put on your clip. You give me one more word and then I'm gonna give her another word.

[Saraya]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah. And then you gotta somehow intertwine them into this.

[Weezy]

Slow, slow.

[Mandy V]

And then the last one, Milk.

[Weezy]

Oh my God. I almost picked milk.

[Mandy V]

Cause they're real rose, slow and milk. I mean, I see. Look, listen.

[Weezy]

Oh, God.

[Mandy V]

Okay, okay. And you could sing it or you could give it like a poem. Either one. Cause we gonna get you some poems later.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

I feel like I should have given you a little instrumental.

[Weezy]

I wasn't one of those kids in mushrooms.

[Saraya]

No, you can't. This is giving freestyle, okay?

[Mandy V]

Ooh, freestyle.

[Saraya]

No, no, no, hold on.

[Mandy V]

No, wait.

[Weezy]

It's supposed to be terrible.

[Saraya]

Okay. Okay, cool.

[Mandy V]

So rose, milk. And slow. And action.

[Saraya]

Okay, give me a little beat. Little, little tempo.

[Mandy V]

You know what? Actually, hold on. Go ahead, go ahead, Just snap. There we go.

[Saraya]

Imma use my rose and he gonna do something sweet to me. Oh, gonna get that milk, honey.

[Mandy V]

Milk, honey.

[Saraya]

What's the other word? Slow.

[Mandy V]

You get, you going, you going. You, last word is slow. You got this cut off.

[Saraya]

Okay, we're gonna just go. Okay?

[Mandy V]

Yep.

[Saraya]

I'mma use my rose and you gonna do something sweet to me. Making it milky. Some sweet for me. Something sweet for me. I'mma need my rose. And this going to be real good to me. I'mma get.

[Weezy]

Okay, slow.

[Saraya]

I forgot about slow. It's okay.

[Weezy]

It's okay, girl. That was great.

[Mandy V]

That was beautiful. You did that.

[Saraya]

I'm like, how we going to do that?

[Mandy V]

We going to go slow with a rose and it's going to go rose.

[Saraya]

Oh, I think I just said no. I didn't say slow.

[Mandy V]

No, but you could have rose slow.

[Saraya]

I was feeling the slow and the tempo.

[Weezy]

It was good in there.

[Saraya]

That Was giving slow, sensual.

[Weezy]

Why didn't you make that color rose milk song?

[Mandy V]

Milk and honey, bitch. I like it because I literally just said you could put Mike's honey on anything.

[Saraya]

That was actually three great words.

[Mandy V]

No, see, because it was giving, like.

[Saraya]

Jingle for the rose.

[Mandy V]

Literally, you know, and this is not a. I wonder.

[Weezy]

Who really made the rose, because aren't they all teemu. Like, who is the rose originator?

[Saraya]

No idea.

[Weezy]

Do you know, I think who it really is. The womanizer.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I love the woman. Give me a little section back in the day. No, it's not back in the day. They still big and they still.

[Weezy]

No womanizer came out, like, 10 years ago. And it was the first, like, suction. Suction for the clitoris.

[Saraya]

Wow.

[Weezy]

And then suddenly the rose came out, and I was like, ain't this just.

[Mandy V]

I'm here for it. Give me a little discount.

[Saraya]

It's the 2025 Womanizer.

[Weezy]

You know, I'm not a rose girl. Are you?

[Saraya]

No.

[Weezy]

I don't understand.

[Mandy V]

I like the suction, though.

[Saraya]

I like that it's a little too small.

[Mandy V]

Oh, no. Shout out to girls. Gotta eat.

[Saraya]

You know what?

[Mandy V]

They have their sex toy brand. And baby, I was mad. I was on the plane, like, fuck, I ain't pack it. I got mad that I ain't pack it. That's.

[Saraya]

You know what? The rose is crazy. Let's just. Let's just be honest. But why? I mean, it's crazy. I feel like it's super overstimulating.

[Mandy V]

Oh.

[Saraya]

But in a way. In the way. Let me cook.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Saraya]

I seen this headline that said that it might. Let me not talk about the rose.

[Mandy V]

Go ahead. What the destigmatized? Yeah, that or destigmatize.

[Saraya]

I said stigmatize, and I'm talking about some fun.

[Weezy]

Yeah, it does. So the issue with the rose, much like any other person that's like masturbating too much is the amount of friction that's being.

[Mandy V]

Why we don't get desensitized from dick then.

[Weezy]

Because there's not that much friction.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So you have to think, right?

[Mandy V]

You don't get desensitized inside just on.

[Weezy]

The outside, because there's like 7,000 nerves on the nerves.

[Saraya]

Right. So when I seen that, I was like.

[Weezy]

And a dick can't go, like, that's way too strong. And another thing I was reading, women are having to edge themselves to have an orgasm. I'm not even trying to be scientific about it. We got to get rid of the.

[Saraya]

Roses because now we are about to.

[Weezy]

Enter a world of where they don't.

[Saraya]

Want us to have partners.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm waiting for the robots, bitch. I got four niggas now. I'm waiting for the aliens and the robots. I'm your whole little NBA squad.

[Saraya]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

Of all the things that are optional to us. Now, I did want to get into some relationship talk. We have a segment where we react to something we found online.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

I saw this online from one of my favorite, favorite, favorite content creators online. And I. 100%. I'm gonna pause because I want to see if you guys agree or disagree.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

Since y' all both got one nigga, I got a lot. But we gonna see how this go. So here we.

[Weezy]

Here's the conversation.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Before you decide to spend the rest of your life with someone, make sure you've broken up at least one time.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

100% agree. I think it's a good lesson.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Yes. A breakup reveals true character.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Right.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Like, when you're in a relationship, you're not showing who you really are.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

You're being your best version of you.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

What's the quote? Like, if you don't. You don't like me at my worst. You don't deserve me at my best. Well, you don't know what the worst is, so you gotta kind of know what the worst is.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Especially if you're planning to get married.

[Saraya]

Yes.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Till death do a spark. Okay. So when breaking up with this person, you can't go into it being like, I'm gonna do the test.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Because that is what I would call manipulative.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

It's a little toxic.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

You cannot present it as the test.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

But if you get into a really big fight.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Yes. There's a little window. You see the window?

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

The window. And. And they go, maybe we should break up.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Usually you go, no, we shouldn't break up. Let's fix it.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

We love each other.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

I think at that point, you go, all right.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

You go, all right. And just for, like, a week.

[Weezy]

Well, hopefully.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Because you might learn, like, you know what? I'm better off.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Or do they start posting, you know, Andrew Tate videos with the caption, the wolf is back on the hunt.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

That's a bad guy.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Pooping your shoe. Who knows?

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

That's a bad woman.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

That's a bad woman. Or man. Men can poop in Air Force Ones.

[Annabe Sponsor]

Are you married?

[Weezy]

I am married.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Did you break up?

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

We have broken up.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

How many times?

[Saraya]

Like, two.

[Mandy V]

I'm married. Two.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

And how many times you break up?

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

I think I broke up like 10 times.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

And that's how you know like you both have seen each other at your.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

Absolute worst and it's the I can't quit you.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

Yeah, that's the more beautiful kind.

[Unknown Female Speaker 2]

What's the thing if you don't.

[Weezy]

I don't like this.

[Mandy V]

I know.

[Unknown Male Speaker 1]

How do you dodge a bullet if no one fires a gun? You know what I'm saying?

[Weezy]

Wow.

[Mandy V]

So you've been in a few year relationship now. You are now engaged and a new mother. Congratulations.

[Saraya]

Thank you.

[Mandy V]

But I want to ask both of you, and I'll include myself because I've had a long term relationship, but I clearly don't count. We not married and we broke up 13 times and we're no longer together. But I want to ask both of you if you genuinely feel two questions here. Do you agree with the clip? Do you believe you don't know someone until you've broken up with them a couple times? And also, do you believe that in order to see someone's true character, it takes breaking up with them to see them in a different light? Soraya, your face was shocked by some of the things. So I'll start with you.

[Weezy]

You know what your face looks like? Do I spill my own tea?

[Mandy V]

So I do. Yeah. Like how. What are your thoughts on the clip and do you agree with anything?

[Saraya]

Okay, so I do agree with the sentiment.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

Because. Because I don't know about how long you're gonna be broken up, but I feel like to get to a point where you feel like you want to break up, both people are being very 100%, like real and open. Like, because there's going to be friction sometimes. There's going to be disagreements, there's going to be things that, like you said, traumas and things that come up that it's like, look, I can't fucking do it.

[Mandy V]

It's like, hey, I'm out of here.

[Saraya]

But if it's like, I'm out of here and you cannot get out of there, then I feel like I feel what they're saying now. I have never broken up with someone for like, let's break up. Let's take a break and come back. I've never done that before. I don't know about that. So that part I'm not sure. Or even breaking up to get right back together the next week, I've never done that. But I've definitely been to a point where I'm like, I'm about to go crazy, like, I can't do this anymore. And I feel like, okay, that does essentially, I understand what they're saying. Like, to get to that point, I feel like you're at odds enough to, like, everyone showing their true colors.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Saraya]

So it's like, okay, if you. If you proceed after that, then we're really in it.

[Mandy V]

We really in this now. What's the difference between seeing it all and deciding to stay? And then when it's over, it's like, damn, I should have left back when I left back then. Like, because we have a chapter in the book. Weezy wrote one about staying too long in a relationship. Right. So to me, if you done broken up, like, Kareem says, he broke up with his wife 10 times before getting together. Like, if the marriage doesn't last, do you not look back and be like, damn, I should have really left at time number four, when is breaking up with someone too much to where? If you keep going back at this point, it just. Y' all shouldn't be together.

[Saraya]

Which is why. Right, But. Which is why I don't like the. The. The real aspect of, like, really breaking up and then getting back together. Cause I feel like things happen in the interim and people get mad at what. What happens.

[Weezy]

That's actually what makes me hate this tape. Yeah.

[Saraya]

What makes what happened in that week, in that month.

[Weezy]

That week.

[Mandy V]

Yep. Oh, yeah. Don't do that.

[Saraya]

Cause you're supposed to still be but broken up.

[Mandy V]

I'm finna go see somebody playing games.

[Weezy]

Too much judging.

[Saraya]

Why are you playing games?

[Mandy V]

No, no. Men want us when they say we breaking up for us to cry for the whole week and then get mad when first off, do you know?

[Saraya]

Yikes.

[Mandy V]

You know, all I had to do was re upload Signals. Snapchat. It opened it DM Signal. Oh, I love Signal. That's why we talking. What Signal.

[Saraya]

Signal, girl.

[Weezy]

It's where I buy drugs from.

[Mandy V]

Okay, well, it's also where.

[Weezy]

It's a hidden app.

[Mandy V]

I like hidden apps.

[Weezy]

Like, if my mushroom man finna come to the house, it's on signal.

[Mandy V]

Well, if this dick about to come to the house, it's on signal too.

[Weezy]

That gotta be a real famous dick.

[Mandy V]

I like famous dick. But for me, it's interesting because I don't like that take either. Like, to me, the person who you're with should be the person of who you're with when y' all are together. Like, I don't think you should be breaking up with someone and then judging them by how they're existing.

[Weezy]

But that's the point. This isn't real.

[Mandy V]

I don't Think this is.

[Weezy]

I really hate this take, and I totally disagree.

[Mandy V]

You totally disagree.

[Weezy]

Mainly because you should not have to be separated for true colors. There are so many things in life that will show you who someone is. Pain, struggle, someone losing a job.

[Saraya]

Correct.

[Weezy]

A depression. I would even go as far to say grieving. When you're seeing someone at their worst, that is when you can tell who you're with.

[Mandy V]

Not only the worst. What I want to reference, because two out of three of y' all are in this room right now. So this man sitting over here behind the wolf, he said that you don't know somebody. You don't know their character. You don't really know who they are for a year. Now, I did look in the Googles, though. I did see that you and Joey met through a mutual friend in 2021. Didn't really come public till 2023.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

So I love to put his little theory to the test. Yes. I'm talking about you, Wolf.

[Saraya]

Wolf, do you still stand on to.

[Mandy V]

This day at this very moment, that it takes a year to date someone? And then I'm coming to Saraya.

[Saraya]

I'm willing to take up to a year to get to know somebody before I decide to.

[Weezy]

You're willing? You're willing? Guess what? I bet you she was sick of your ass.

[Mandy V]

Look at her face. So he says it to me.

[Saraya]

So they're not even.

[Mandy V]

It's together? No, no, they're not together. They probably doing all the together shit.

[Saraya]

Just.

[Mandy V]

But he said he ain't going. He ain't gonna make it official for.

[Weezy]

You to be like, yeah. Isn't your fiance from Brooklyn?

[Saraya]

Yeah, but I feel like he was like, girl. Yeah, it was like six months.

[Mandy V]

Oh, six months. Okay, that was.

[Saraya]

Or maybe okay. Like five to six months, maybe. Okay. So then she goes like, I want.

[Mandy V]

To ask you, at what point did you feel like you knew him in terms of. Because back to the. The video, you know what it says it takes a few times to break up before you know their character.

[Saraya]

How long do you think I love my honey?

[Weezy]

He.

[Saraya]

I knew him the whole time period. Everything is up front. Everything is what it is. So.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

You know why?

[Saraya]

I didn't have to go into the whole. Yeah, there was that. Yeah, yeah.

[Weezy]

Think about when you.

[Saraya]

There was no pressure. I didn't put pressure on him either.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

We were just hanging out.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

And I feel like things that I grew to know about him, it was just very open maybe.

[Mandy V]

See, it's giving. Saray is saying, ladies, go with the flow. It could end with a ring and a baby.

[Weezy]

I mean, ain't no flow at five months getting in a relationship, that's not flow. That's right on time, yo ass.

[Mandy V]

I think timing, I think timing matters.

[Saraya]

Timing matters. But also like, who is it? Right. Do y' all have chemistry? Like not forcing anything. Right. Like, there are a lot of different factors I feel like too. And if you feel, I feel like if you feel like you have to go a year, I feel like that person's a little closed off or maybe they're not ready.

[Weezy]

I actually think it kind of proves that you're not that sure about them, which is hurtful.

[Saraya]

Right.

[Weezy]

So correct to me when it goes beyond that six month range is like, oh, so you want me to be out here. You're not sure about me for real?

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

So that means I should be weighing out my options too. But God forbid I do weigh out my options because then he's like, I gotcha. You're not. So like that part is kind of tricky. And to me, the thing I don't like about the breakup party there is that we don't do it with real intention. Everyone does it to like make the other one mad and hold you accountable for whatever happened in that time.

[Saraya]

Yeah, no, I don't like, that's what's.

[Weezy]

Really hard about this with the breakups. I also think 10 times to me that shows you that's, you're just, you're just saying it when you're angry. You really don't have conflict resolution.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Because how are you getting to that many breakups? You know what I'm saying? To be married to someone, you're breaking up.

[Mandy V]

I mean, it could be a narcissist.

[Saraya]

You know, ten times a lot. I mean, sorry, I'm sitting here remembering things 10 times.

[Annabe Sponsor]

For a sofa upgrade, visit washablesofas.com and discover Annabe where designer style meets budget friendly prices with sofas starting at six $699. Anabe brings you the ultimate in furniture innovation with a modular design that allows you to rearrange your space effortlessly. Perfect for both small and large spaces, Anibe is the only machine washable sofa inside and out. Say goodbye to stains and messes with liquid and stain resistant fabrics that make cleaning easy. Liquid simply slides right off. Designed for custom comfort, our high resilience foam lets you choose between a single and feel or a supportive memory foam blend. Plus our pet friendly stain resistant fabrics ensure your sofa stays beautiful for years. Don't compromise quality for price. Visit washablesofas.com to upgrade your living space today with no risk returns and a 30 day money back guarantee. Get up to 60% off plus free shipping and free returns. Shop [e-mail] Authors are subject to change and certain restrictions may apply.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

Do you like free money? Well, today's your lucky day. Better Picks is offering a free $10 just for signing up. Download the Better App, Pick more or less on your favorite player's stats, watch the games and win some cash. It's that simple. Better picks available in 33 states, including Texas, California and Georgia. Download the Better App today that's Better Betr and get a free $10. No deposit necessary. Must be 21 or older. In a jurisdiction where Better Pick Picks operates. Terms and conditions apply. Better Picks Sports just got better.

[Mandy V]

Now I do want to tie this back to your new film.

[Saraya]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

Because I think there's a difference between timing and persistence and people being delusional at who they may be pursuing. And for me it was like, beau, give it up. At one point I was like, bitch, she is broken. Why do you keep trying? And it's crazy because in times of. I think women do it on the opposite end. Right. I think we see men who are genuinely not ready either, mentally, financially, whatever the case may be for a relationship. And as women, we still push to pursue something that could be. It was interesting seeing Beau be that character with Ruth. Do you believe in waiting it out for someone to be able to show up as a better person? Like do you think has that worked before your relationship now? Has that been something that's worked in the past?

[Saraya]

No, because I chose not to. I really do feel like. I mean, yeah, I just chose not to wait because I'm like, okay, well I feel like you're the man and if you want to be treated like the man and the leader and the everything, then you need to know what you want. And if it's not me, then then.

[Mandy V]

Let me go or I'm just gonna go.

[Weezy]

I have a hot take on album.

[Saraya]

It's great.

[Weezy]

I think I'm the love bomber in the movie a bit. Well well how do you feel about.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm not gonna hold you. I need a part two because I.

[Saraya]

Think it would be he could be.

[Mandy V]

Michael Ealy in a part two. It's given narcissist. It's given possible love bomber.

[Weezy]

You gonna end up looking like you.

[Mandy V]

Was from strong and he 40 and they never been married looking like that with no kids.

[Saraya]

Red flags, huh?

[Mandy V]

With all the money I'm judging and.

[Weezy]

Can build a home. So the reason I thought the love.

[Saraya]

Bomb is he was very perfect.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Saraya]

You know, and it does emulate. It's like a take on the biblical story. Ruth and Boaz and the Bible read the Bible talk.

[Mandy V]

So what happened to that?

[Saraya]

So. So this is. It is a representation of that story, which is. Right. Yeah. So the mother. The mother that she follows. Well, am I giving it away?

[Mandy V]

Okay, well, it's out. Okay, it's out now.

[Saraya]

Okay, cool. The mother that she.

[Mandy V]

Spoiler alert.

[Saraya]

That she follows to Pegram, Tennessee, also represents like, a different place, like, period. It represents the story of Ruth on this journey, and she does get found by Boaz, which is really in the Bible. Now, I can't tell you exactly where either.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

But I just know that I know from my husband. Yeah, girl. Yeah, I knew. Where you going with that? I love it because I feel you same.

[Weezy]

Not too bad a husband.

[Saraya]

No, but. But I can say that Ruth and Boaz is such a big story, especially in church. And it's something that you just hear a lot like that story being referred to find Joe Boaz or when Ruth was going through what she was going to. Going through. So in the Bible, you know, by the way, the man find his. Findeth a wife and not the other way around. So I do have that core belief a little bit. I do have that core belief that the man has his things in order enough that if he is in that position, then he can see the wife, that he can find the wife.

[Mandy V]

By the way, if y' all are into religion and shit, the book of Ruth in the Old Testament, also known as the Hebrew Bible.

[Saraya]

Yes.

[Mandy V]

This. This story is only four chapters long. Let me find out. I could give me a Netflix, girl.

[Weezy]

That's a hard read.

[Mandy V]

Hold on, wait. Four chapters in the Bible is long, Babe, how long is chapters in the Bible?

[Weezy]

It's just a hard read.

[Saraya]

No, no, it's not long. But she's saying it's a hard read because it's four chapters.

[Mandy V]

The language is situated between Judges and 1 Samuel. Look at me teaching y' all some shit.

[Weezy]

You know, I actually put that in my notes about how I kind of liked that there was like a little church moment. So I don't know. I'm pretty agnostic. I'm the girl that's got a lot of pistols in the house and stuff. But I just do like seeing young people in religion depicted because I kind of feel like I don't need to be religious to know we're In a world that's soulless.

[Saraya]

Absolutely.

[Weezy]

And when I was seeing it in the movie and it was still sexy and fun and cute, I like seeing that. Like, I think we need a little bit more of it and I appreciate that. It kind of showed a man with certain values. A lot of times when my friends are having trouble dating, a constant theme that they see within men that they're dating is that they have no faith in really anything.

[Saraya]

Right?

[Weezy]

Like, you don't have to be the guy that goes to church every day to just know that there's something you value or something you're working towards. Even me, you know, I don't go to church and I don't really just subscribe to any religion. But I remember telling my boyfriend a few days ago, we got a Jesus gonna be in this house or something.

[Mandy V]

We gotta come up with a name.

[Weezy]

Or something the baby gonna be scared of. Cause who's gonna watch you when we ain't around? Like, for real. I really do believe when there's nothing to follow or guide you or no belief, you're kind of lost. And so I think to see it a little bit central in the beginning to me, what seemed important to them made it kind of nice. I really wish that we could look for that without it seeming, like, corny, you know what I mean?

[Saraya]

No. Yeah, that's her North Star. And I big up Devon Franklin and Tyler Perry. And that's.

[Mandy V]

Who was it. I saw his name in the beginning. I meant to bring him up because.

[Saraya]

Because he. This is a faith based movie.

[Mandy V]

Yes.

[Saraya]

But it's not done in a way where it's going to come off corny or kind of like not for the everyday, you know, Netflix viewer, you know what I mean? And I. But it also does tie.

[Mandy V]

But it also makes no sex scenes.

[Saraya]

What?

[Weezy]

I waited.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I was. Now I know both of y' all got your partners. Y' all probably had to. This was the easy script to accept. Like, Joey, babe, don't even have to have sex with him on film. Miracle babe. I ain't even fucking her on scene. Like, but bitch, I was waiting the whole time. I was.

[Saraya]

You know what it is?

[Weezy]

I'm just gonna let you know. Two attractive people can't be attracted to each other.

[Mandy V]

I wanted something hot and steamy, but.

[Weezy]

You know what to.

[Mandy V]

In a pickup truck or something, bitch.

[Weezy]

You want to see it harder to, like, do the intimate intimacy of like, I feel like I could have a makeout scene or have sex with someone on camera, rather than the intensity of like, eye gazing that. Like that.

[Saraya]

You feel like you could do that over that over.

[Weezy]

What happens when you're really growing and showing love on camera feels more intimate to me. So you have to remember, right, we have a show called Decisions Decisions, Formerly Horrible Decisions. Don't know if you've heard of it. Nasty show. I think sex can be frivolous and crazy and fun. I think intimacy is way deeper.

[Mandy V]

Bitch, the hardest thing about that movie looked like stomping on them grapes. That nigga was about to fall. About a couple.

[Weezy]

Oh, you know, I filmed myself watching it. Let me. Let me show you how I talked to you.

[Saraya]

Let me see. Let me see.

[Mandy V]

You were talking to her.

[Saraya]

Oh, man.

[Weezy]

Oh, yeah.

[Saraya]

That's so interesting, because now I'm gonna see, like, what people feel about Ruth and Boaz.

[Weezy]

Oh, this is how I knew the.

[Saraya]

Oh, my God.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, he was about to fall. Bust his ass a couple times.

[Weezy]

I said, oh, she got her feet off. It's about to go down. I was so ready.

[Mandy V]

I'm watching.

[Saraya]

Predicting. Look, look. She already knew. It just feels. She's not lying.

[Mandy V]

And it's. And you leave.

[Saraya]

Yes.

[Weezy]

Unbutton the shirt. Oh, maybe not.

[Mandy V]

What? Yeah, that pissed me off.

[Weezy]

I was so pissed. I can't risk.

[Saraya]

I can't risk.

[Weezy]

I can't risk.

[Mandy V]

You didn't want to risk that getting hurt.

[Weezy]

I took a break.

[Mandy V]

I took a break from the movie. Too hot, too hot, too hot, too hot, too hot, too hot.

[Weezy]

Isn't it interesting how, like, we find that, like, the second we get lustful, we're like, oh, I'm done getting hurt.

[Mandy V]

Wait, wait, wait. Who does that? Ruth.

[Weezy]

She's like, it was getting too lustful, right? All that other building intimacy you did, spending time together, laying in the fields and shit. And now.

[Mandy V]

And now it's too much for y' all watching.

[Saraya]

Now it's too much for y' all watching.

[Mandy V]

At this point, this bitch got a whole car and couldn't even keep kissing him. Ruth might need to give us some lessons on how to do all the things. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Now, earlier, we made you do a nice little sultry thing. We have another part of the show called Hoetry. Oh, yes.

[Weezy]

Nice not to be confused with the flow.

[Mandy V]

Now, I did my research on two of your most favorite people.

[Weezy]

Uh.

[Mandy V]

Oh, and so we have lyrics from an R and B record and a rap record.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Mandy V]

You have to let us know the artist as well as the song that these lyrics are from.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Weezy]

It'll be read A little bit differently. So it might be difficult for you. Yeah.

[Mandy V]

You might not be able to catch on to what it is. Because I'm going to read it like poetry.

[Saraya]

Oh, my gosh.

[Mandy V]

So you ready?

[Saraya]

I'm nervous again.

[Mandy V]

I'm going to take this time to show you how much you mean to me. Cause you are all I need. No money can emphasize or describe the love that's in between the lines. Boy, look into these eyes While I'm grinding on you. This is beyond sex. I'm high on you.

[Weezy]

High on you.

[Mandy V]

What's next?

[Saraya]

Hi. On you. This is the.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Saraya]

Wait, wait, wait.

[Weezy]

I'm surprised you better.

[Mandy V]

That was a hard one.

[Saraya]

How I feel? Rocking on, baby.

[Mandy V]

Rocking. Rocking on your baby. Yes, yes. So, yes, y', all. That is. I'm like, wait, I know you actually know this.

[Weezy]

I was really. You didn't get it?

[Saraya]

I didn't.

[Mandy V]

You didn't. You didn't get it?

[Weezy]

No.

[Mandy V]

You ain't get Beyonce.

[Weezy]

I read it too fast.

[Saraya]

When you said I'm high on you, I was like, okay.

[Mandy V]

If you know this real, then you know how I feel. You know what's crazy about this one? I had to really get into the words. Cause she has another one about her daddy, right? What's the one? Is this Dance for your?

[Weezy]

Is this not Dance for your?

[Mandy V]

But doesn't she have one about dancing with her daddy, too?

[Weezy]

Girl, that's Luther Vandross.

[Mandy V]

Oh, is that the same with him?

[Weezy]

We need daddy glasses, Navi.

[Mandy V]

Damn.

[Weezy]

No, that's not.

[Mandy V]

Okay. We're not even gonna go there. I think I thought at one point this was to her daddy, until I read the lyrics, and then it wasn't because she was grinding, and it's beyond sex and all.

[Weezy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mandy V]

Okay, right, okay. So next one. You ready?

[Weezy]

Ready.

[Mandy V]

I swear that you ain't got a flaw it was love at the first time you let me hit it raw if I shine, then we both shine but let you shine more Go above, beyond for her my shame, my look, my machete, mi amor. Fuck who you was with before. Cause you look better next to me. Respectfully, any nigga trying to get to you he gotta check with me Girl, that's just the principle don't try to call that jealousy I'm trying to start a legacy and you my pedigree can you see?

[Weezy]

Girl, you better get your baby daddy, come on.

[Mandy V]

No, I was.

[Saraya]

No, I know. I'm letting you finish it. I'm about to say, that's Joey.

[Mandy V]

It was just about you. Cause it's giving that. So it's. I'm falling for you Falling for you.

[Saraya]

I'm falling for you.

[Mandy V]

Hello.

[Saraya]

I didn't want to catch myself. Now you know what I'm about to have. You had me some girl on YouTube.

[Weezy]

That'S like, I could have gotten it. I knew him.

[Mandy V]

I had to make it, you know, I don't know how I read it, but you know, I got it.

[Weezy]

All right, I got a tester one.

[Saraya]

For both of you.

[Weezy]

That's a good one.

[Saraya]

That's a good one.

[Mandy V]

You got a tester one for both of them.

[Weezy]

Now this is a song we all know, and I'mma do my best. Oh, Lord, let's see who gets it first. Eddie, you wolf. We all gonna try this. I like em round and big and when I'm throwing a gig I just can't help myself I'm acting like an animal now here's my scandal. I want to get you home and, uh, double up. Uh, uh, I ain't talking about Playboy.

[Saraya]

Wait, I don't know. Wait.

[Weezy]

Because silicone parts aren't made for toys.

[Mandy V]

What is it?

[Weezy]

I want them real thick and juicy.

[Saraya]

So I know what this is.

[Weezy]

So find that juicy devil.

[Saraya]

Baby got back. That is crazy. No, because the track is playing in my head, but I'm like, you wanna sing it?

[Mandy V]

I'm like, oh, take your home double up. That's crazy. That is crazy.

[Saraya]

When she said that part specifically, I'm.

[Weezy]

Like, do you know what? We've been doing this segment weekly. And I'm thinking to myself, this is some real dirty lyrics. And the song was on in the cab while I was doing it.

[Mandy V]

I'm not gonna hold you only. Cause I wasn't gonna do it to you like that. Cause you know, you a celebrity. And all the lyrics that I want to sing are from somebody who's in jail that's supposed to be canceled. But he got some good ones, girl. But I wasn't gonna do it. I just say it. I'm just saying. All right, the next segment. Okay, the next segment is we're talking about adult shit. Us with our partners, our relationships. And I wanted to start off because one of the biggest red pill goddamn conversations on the Internet are how men don't support or want to be with or aren't attracted to successful women. Um, you are in the same field as your partner. You are driven as an R and B artist, as an actress. You have these new projects dropping. What does it look like for your partner to show up and support these efforts and have you ever had a partner that you felt was intimidated? And how did you pick up on those signs that this wasn't healthy? And we talk about this a lot because we both run multiple businesses, too. But for you specifically, in this entertainment space, I'm wondering how he's able to show up for you and how you're able to pick out when a partner doesn't support what you got going on.

[Saraya]

I mean, I think it's pretty like he. I mean, showing up for me. Let me just answer first. Showing up for me just looks like acknowledging what I'm doing or even remembering the details of what I have coming up or celebrating me. There's a big milestone or something like that. Or even just asking me, you know, how did. How did you feel about that scene? Like just being involved. Right. But not showing up. I have also dealt with in the past. Okay, that's a very shady, specific one because, you know, and I say. I say this to say that person's definitely not confident, okay? Like, they just can't be that that man is not ready for the spotlight to not be on him or for it not to be all about him. I think that a person who is supportive of you is just going to be like, baby, I'm so proud of you. Like, oh, my God, how do we. What do we do? How do we celebrate? And I feel like that. Yeah, I feel like that's something that just comes natural, like, for. Well, so do you.

[Mandy V]

Do you then think that then for the narrative that's out about men not wanting successful women or, you know, well, to do women or women with money, that it's more of an insecure thing with the man.

[Saraya]

I feel like it could go both ways. I feel like there could be an insecure man that just genuinely has some type of little issue with it. But I do know that also a lot of successful, educated women can be. They can probably not just sit in their. Their feminine.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

You know, as much because they're so used to operating in their masculine. And I feel like that's sometimes probably more than likely what kind of butts heads with men, to be honest. But. But being a woman who I have a crazy schedule, you know, my life doesn't look, I guess, you know, like the average. I would say woman, just because I'm just like, you know, flying here. And I've actually had that before where a guy was like, yeah, no, we.

[Mandy V]

We can't. What do you mean? Yeah, no, I can.

[Saraya]

We can't date. And I was like, oh.

[Mandy V]

He said that.

[Saraya]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was just completely honest, like, no, I need my woman at home at 5 o'. Clock. Like, you're not about to be, you know, I'm not gonna be with nobody, taking flights and I don't know where you at. And all this stuff, which is what.

[Weezy]

Most rappers, athletes and successful men desire, which I understand.

[Saraya]

And that's cool, that's what you want. But for me, that's not gonna work. Right. I'm not gonna slow down. And so that's a really important factor for me, is that a partner is gonna support and understand that the same way I do for him.

[Mandy V]

For a woman who really likes a man that they're dating, if they show up like this, is there a way to work through that? Or would you say for them to leave?

[Saraya]

Right. But I also do understand. I'll see. But I also do understand being the feminine and being in my power. I'm gonna say that because I don't want anyone to think I'm saying what I'm not saying. I'm saying being in your power, as in we both have feminine and masculine men and women. Right. And I think that we can operate in both of those spaces very well. But I know that when I go home, I'm like, hey, babe, I'm going to usher that. That energy in the home. And I think that that's really important. I don't think that. I think that I have my. I have my rah rah. I'm gonna get it done. We gonna get this done, right? What we doing? You know? But I've learned so much. I opposite way.

[Weezy]

Like, for example, successful women may say, oh, he has to do this for me and this for me and this for me. It's almost a little overbearing. Like.

[Saraya]

What do you mean?

[Weezy]

Because what you're saying is the same thing I was thinking. But I think that they're actually. They think they're operating in their feminine. You said there can be women in their masculine, right?

[Saraya]

Absolutely.

[Weezy]

I believe a lot of successful women today think that being in their feminine means that they can't be with a man that makes less be with a man that's not on their level, quote, unquote. There's a lot of measuring up that a lot of women have expectations for. And to me, I think the problem is that when we make a certain amount of money, we think we can't be teammates anymore.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

No. Which is very unfair because the Internet, the Instagram, this isn't all real. Right. All of the ideas that A man should be paying every single thing for you, I think, is actually kind of insane unless someone is making a huge amount more. I don't know why there should be that much of an imbalance, but I think successful women feel like, hey, we've reached the pinnacle of this. Why settle? As if settling is being sharing a bill or sharing a mortgage.

[Saraya]

And is that really. Maybe I'm just like, I'm not knowing what's going on. So you're saying a successful woman who makes her own money doesn't want to share, doesn't want to pay for anything?

[Weezy]

I believe that. A lot of successful women don't. I believe they want a man that's making just as much as them.

[Mandy V]

Or more.

[Weezy]

I believe they. Yeah. Or more. And I think that's what makes it difficult to date. I don't think it's lowering standards to necessarily be a teammate, but I find that they believe that's operating in that feminine. You know what I mean? Like, oh, I shouldn't be doing XYZ. I think it's absolutely normal in 2025 and in this economy for, like, us to be going half on a house.

[Saraya]

Yeah. See this? Is he chilling in the background? Because I don't know about all that. For me, that's why I be like. Because for me, just. This is just how I think. Right? This is just me. But, serayah, I 100% agree with a helpmate. I 100% agree that if I am making the money, everyone in their household can come together with their own custom. We don't gotta follow these yellow brick roads that these people are saying on different podcasts.

[Weezy]

That's what it is. Podcast.

[Annabe Sponsor]

Yeah.

[Saraya]

It's like, okay, you know, I feel like you're with that person every day. You're in the house with them. Create what the fuck y' all want to do.

[Mandy V]

Can I ask you?

[Saraya]

And for me, now, in the house, Huh?

[Weezy]

I want to know beyond bills.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

How is it sharing baby things together? How? Like, is. You had to do a podcast interview today. Is he with the baby? Like, how did you share this thing together?

[Saraya]

He actually is. He is. He's with the baby right now. The babies. Yeah. So these.

[Weezy]

I'm sorry.

[Saraya]

Yeah. No, no, no. He has a daughter, which is my. My bonus daughter.

[Mandy V]

I love it.

[Saraya]

And our son. So, yes, the both of them.

[Weezy]

How did you guys decide how you would, like, figure out parenting together with crazy schedules? Like, how does that convo look when you're together? Because we mostly hear about it from co parenting. People separate.

[Saraya]

Okay. It looks very much like, you know, baby, sleep down for the night. What do you have for this week? What are you doing tomorrow? What's on the agenda? Like, how do we make this work? Because once again, he supports what I'm doing and I support what he's doing. This is who I was when you met me, you know, so it's like. So it's like. Right. So it's like.

[Mandy V]

And.

[Saraya]

And that's just what. The dynamic that we share and that we feel like is very, like, necessary.

[Mandy V]

He's.

[Saraya]

It doesn't get. It's very much help me. Like you said, it's a teammate. I think it's teamwork. For me specifically, I grew up and adopting and acknowledging that the woman doesn't not have anything. I think the woman's money is saved or invested or, you know, for hardship or whatever. That's me specifically. That's how I feel. Maybe he does front most of the things. Right. And that's not to say that the woman doesn't either. Right. You know, if you're not stay at home mom, or if you're not. If you are a person, like we're saying, who feels like she's making so much money, has a life of her own, I think that you should want to team up. Right. I don't know. That's just how I feel.

[Mandy V]

You don't really like the nigga. You just looking for a daddy.

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Mandy V]

Someone to, like, put a roof over your head.

[Saraya]

Yeah. I'm just really trying to understand, like, what the logic is, what we've been.

[Weezy]

Taught when we're, oh, the man takes care of this X, Y, Z. So, I mean, see, I ain't gonna hold you.

[Mandy V]

I think, though, that there's a privilege in being taught that, like, we grew up differently. Like, you grew up where your mom was a housewife. I grew up where it was a single parent household.

[Saraya]

Same.

[Mandy V]

And my.

[Saraya]

Yeah, my mom was.

[Mandy V]

And men ain't do shit around across kind of my whole family. And so, like, for me, I wasn't raised that a man should do everything, which is why I blame Neo fucking Boosie and Destiny's Child with the goddamn anthems of us being independent, independent women during the independent women era. And a lot of us being raised in single parent households. I think it's like this narrative that's being put out from the Internet. But a lot of us weren't raised by. Or at least I won't say a lot because I don't want to generalize. But for many of us who are raised in single parent households. The narrative around men are supposed to take care of everything. Wasn't the narrative being pushed to me at all when I was growing up? No, that wasn't the thing like, okay, my daddy paid his little $400 for child support for two kids. One that wasn't his. You know what I mean? And so for I think anyone right now navigating their 30s and maybe into their 40s, if they were raised in those single parent households, the way in which we're navigating dating is why we have all these red pill think pieces is because we all trying to maybe live a fantasy life that we would like based on the Disney channel.

[Weezy]

It's the soft life Hashtag.

[Mandy V]

The soft life. You know, seeing certain things and it just kind of.

[Saraya]

So why you can't have a soft life. And like I. Oh, girl.

[Weezy]

That's not part of the aesthetic of soft life. Have you clicked on it?

[Mandy V]

Oh, yeah. Soft life is supposed to be like you.

[Weezy]

They also have a voice.

[Saraya]

I feel like I'm like, I've been under a rock. What's going on, girl?

[Mandy V]

You're not missing anything.

[Saraya]

What's wrong with you?

[Mandy V]

They under the rock.

[Weezy]

They under the rock, girl. The soft life hashtag. I love it and hate it.

[Saraya]

Okay, okay. Because I thought it was like they.

[Weezy]

Have like an accent. It's not like an la. What's the word? It starts with F. Like the la Flair. It's something that like. It's a word. The way that la. That sound that. Valley.

[Saraya]

Oh my God. Like valley.

[Weezy]

Not valley. Because you're from.

[Mandy V]

You're from la, right?

[Saraya]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Vocal fry.

[Saraya]

Vocal fry.

[Mandy V]

I've never heard of.

[Weezy]

So basically it's like, it's where you accentuate the end of a word.

[Saraya]

Oh God. You bring it back around.

[Mandy V]

We're not going to do that.

[Weezy]

So it's either vocal fry or it's a wicking with a time stamp. And she like this. I Woke up at 5:30.

[Saraya]

Oh, like Nara. I love Nara's. Is that like. Is that like. Would that be the same?

[Mandy V]

You know what's crazy? Nar be working out. She be working the only person on my timeline.

[Saraya]

That's her aesthetic. Feels soft life.

[Mandy V]

I don't know the guy's name. He. He wears like a.

[Saraya]

Correct.

[Mandy V]

He wears like a. A T shirt as kind of a durag. And he talks about how like these men be talking while like dating. And she be like, no, not gonna do that. 100% not gonna do that. That's what we're not gonna do. He's hilarious. I'm gonna post him on the goddamn page, But I love him anyways. Saraya. For anyone who has not at this point. Don't know why you wouldn't. It's Saraya and fucking Tyler Lepley, bitch. And Phylicia Rashad and Jermaine Dupri. And Babyface. For anyone who's a very good cast. For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, what would you hope their takeaway to be? And why should they watch the film Ruth and Boaz on Netflix now?

[Saraya]

I would hope that their takeaway is Community. Okay. Leaning into your community. She did that a lot in the film. And she wasn't afraid to, like, step out on faith and do something that she had no idea what she was doing.

[Mandy V]

You better put. And fulfilling your contracts.

[Saraya]

And I would say another thing is that, you know, real. This real love. Right? I feel like all of these topics that we just. All these hashtags, we just said, it's exhausting. It's exhausting. Like, we're making it harder. Like, it's already hard, you know, because you got two people who come with a whole life before they met each other. So it's like, to add all this extra layers and extra things, I feel like that's what Ruth and Boaz really. They really communicate throughout the film is just being open, vulnerable, and raw. And it just. It is what it is.

[Mandy V]

And it's gonna urge a lot of us to visit.

[Saraya]

And that's. A man should wash the woman.

[Weezy]

That kind of made me want to go to Ashley.

[Saraya]

I need me a. Boaz was washing those feet.

[Weezy]

I forgot to share with y' all my favorite scene.

[Mandy V]

What was your favorite scene?

[Weezy]

You actually weren't in it. It was very much in the beginning.

[Saraya]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Alicia Rashad and her late husband are in the bed. And it's a very sexy scene between older people. He's like, you feel that? She's like, I did love that. I was like, I don't know. The last time I've seen people in their 60s, whatever age they're at, just having this, like, sexy moment. We just don't get to see it.

[Saraya]

I.

[Weezy]

And I'm sitting here waiting for you to do it at the end.

[Mandy V]

Girl, girl, we was waiting.

[Weezy]

You had great feet.

[Saraya]

Is all we got.

[Weezy]

Do you know how many pages you're about to have?

[Saraya]

Listen, first of all, my part, I was like, oh, God, please.

[Mandy V]

You didn't like that your feet was.

[Weezy]

Yes, you did.

[Mandy V]

Cause you had a little toe ring. You was ready.

[Saraya]

Yeah. Had to be ready.

[Mandy V]

The toes was painted.

[Saraya]

Had to be ready.

[Mandy V]

I said, this bitch just got a job and she got a fresh pedicure. I know where her money going.

[Saraya]

No, no, for real. I'm like, listen, well, Ruth's gonna have to have had a pedicure. We actually talked about that. It was a call because it was like, we don't want her nails. Like, she's not supposed to have money.

[Weezy]

Yeah, you.

[Mandy V]

Oh, I'm not gonna lie. I judged, and I was like.

[Saraya]

I was like, pedicure. Waving the white flag. Can I please.

[Mandy V]

I'm not gonna lie on television. Yo, J is picking grapes. I wanted to see some coarse feet. I wanted to see calluses. I wanted to see corn.

[Weezy]

No, no, no. They don't sell.

[Mandy V]

It didn't give. We didn't need corn out here. We wanted corn feet.

[Saraya]

I'm like, she. You know she has Vaseline.

[Weezy]

Were you pregnant by the.

[Saraya]

No, I was.

[Mandy V]

You was with the Mibs.

[Saraya]

Well, listen, I was like, did you.

[Weezy]

Find out while you were filming?

[Mandy V]

I found out. Oh, wow.

[Weezy]

How stressful.

[Saraya]

Girl, let's talk about that.

[Weezy]

Let's talk about that before you leave.

[Saraya]

So stressful. So sick.

[Mandy V]

Oh, damn.

[Weezy]

That really.

[Mandy V]

That hurts.

[Weezy]

Yeah. So wait, you were filming in what trimesters?

[Saraya]

The first.

[Mandy V]

It had to be the first because the ads happened.

[Saraya]

I found out. Yeah. Nothing changed.

[Mandy V]

I ain't gonna hold you. I was looking at you in that little white T shirt.

[Saraya]

I was like, seven weeks.

[Weezy]

I was like, wait, what scene did you film right before you found out? Like, what did we see? Now I gotta go back and see if you look like you threw up.

[Saraya]

Oh, probably. I mean, so many times throughout the.

[Mandy V]

Movie, you were away when you had to tell him that you were pregnant. Like, you didn't get to tell him.

[Weezy]

To his face, unfortunately.

[Mandy V]

Oh, wow.

[Saraya]

Yeah. We shot in Atlanta, so it was very much FaceTime. Oh, wow. Everything. Yeah, but.

[Weezy]

So you went to CVS, Walgreens.

[Saraya]

We shot for, like, four. Yes, I. Well, no, I. I ordered it to the hotel. No, Facebook is. And then, yeah, I was like. We were on FaceTime. And I was like, all right, I'm gonna do another one. All right, I'm gonna do another one. And it was like, girl positive.

[Mandy V]

It was like, girl.

[Saraya]

And then literally, I feel like after I found out, like, the next week, because we were doing pre production for, like, three weeks, and then we shot for, like, three or four weeks. Okay, weeks, maybe. So, yeah, by the time we had, like, the first day, I was, like, miserable.

[Weezy]

Did you share with your Friends and colleagues on set.

[Saraya]

That did not. I did not.

[Mandy V]

I mean, I think that's the thing.

[Saraya]

Until, like, the last week where I was like, okay, I like, at least, what, three months?

[Mandy V]

Like, you want to wait anyways?

[Saraya]

I want to wait anyways. But I ended up just telling my director. Alana. Alana. She. Female director. So I was like, she had her family there. Her daughter, beautiful daughter, and her husband. And I was like, okay, I have to tell her. Because it got to a point where I was like, I don't want them to be like, what's good with her? You know, like, what's up?

[Weezy]

And also.

[Mandy V]

But also, they had you out on the bills, girl. The heat. The heat.

[Weezy]

Those pregnant feet, they weren't even swollen.

[Saraya]

The Everything. Not yet.

[Mandy V]

Not yet.

[Saraya]

I'll show you some pictures. Some swollen feet.

[Mandy V]

They wasn't there yet.

[Saraya]

That was at the end. But. But I can say that it was. It was very much challenging. But I can say that my little blessing from above gave me a. A certain ability to just be open. Okay. And in the moment. And so every scene is just very candid and just very real because I had no time to overthink.

[Weezy]

Oh, wow.

[Saraya]

Because I was just like, this is.

[Weezy]

Not the most important thing anymore.

[Saraya]

Well, not even that. But just like, I'm just so sick. Like, I don't know. It's just like, everything makes you sick, right? And they're bringing food. There's food around. There's. There's people walking by with perfume and every. I'm just like. I'm just like, oh, I'll be right back. Gotta run to my trailer. Oh, you know, And I'm just like, okay, how do I survive today? What. What am I gonna take today to, like, help me get.

[Weezy]

I know your man was sick of FaceTimes. Yes, baby.

[Saraya]

Yeah, right? And I'm, like, just sitting in my trailer. It's just dark. PA knocks on my trailer. Saraya, we'll have you for five minutes. I'm like, okay.

[Mandy V]

I love it.

[Saraya]

But, I mean, I'm sure people suspected, especially the women. They're like, I know, bitch.

[Mandy V]

We know that.

[Weezy]

I would have just said, I went out last night. You know, it's Atlanta.

[Mandy V]

Well, Saraya, thank you so, so much for joining us.

[Weezy]

Thank you.

[Mandy V]

For anyone listening, if you haven't yet, check out Ruth and Boaz on Netflix. It is out now. And, you know, just know you're not gonna get a sex scene, but for a mother.

[Weezy]

Our girl was throwing up in them stuff.

[Saraya]

See?

[Weezy]

Come on.

[Saraya]

I love it.

[Mandy V]

I love It. And do you have anything else that you have going on that you would like to support that you have coming out?

[Saraya]

Yes, ladies, actually, I have a new song out.

[Mandy V]

Hello. Ruined by Baby Face.

[Saraya]

Yes. Oh, but also, that's right from the movie soundtrack. But I also have my single.

[Mandy V]

Okay.

[Saraya]

It's called Put that Shit On. Ooh, P D, S. Okay, y' all to go download that. I want you to make your videos while you getting cute. When you putting that on.

[Mandy V]

Putting that on.

[Saraya]

Yes. Make a TikTok attack me.

[Mandy V]

It don't make the dance too complicated. We're in our 30s.

[Weezy]

And does the artist make the dance?

[Mandy V]

Sometimes they do their teeth. Sometimes does to get it going.

[Saraya]

Yeah. I don't know.

[Mandy V]

And Chris Brown thought we could all dance. It took me about a month and a half to learn that. Goddamn.

[Saraya]

I'm still.

[Mandy V]

Look, look, look.

[Weezy]

Even I volunteered with some kids two days ago.

[Mandy V]

All of them knew it.

[Saraya]

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They know every step.

[Mandy V]

So pdso.

[Saraya]

PDSO is out. My project is coming out as well. Yes.

[Mandy V]

Project coming out. Ruth and Boaz, wherever. Empire, I guess still plays, but we don't know what's happening over there.

[Saraya]

It's all over.

[Mandy V]

Okay, There we go. And all the things. Saray, thank you so very much for joining us.

[Saraya]

Thank you.

[Mandy V]

Y' all see it right here on the table. If you're watching over on YouTube, make sure you support black women authors, New York Times bestsellers. Get our book, no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, available now wherever you get books. And if you want more bonus content, more episodes, more everything, head on over to our Patreon. That's patreon.com horrible decisions. Because horrible Decisions is still here, baby. It's just on Patreon.

[Weezy]

That's what they really wanted. You, girl.

[Mandy V]

You know what I mean?

[Weezy]

So we probably said no.

[Mandy V]

Yeah, we wasn't gonna get you talking about if you eat ass or not. But anyways, guys, look, she said, why.

[Weezy]

Don'T you want to answer before you leave? Yikes.

[Mandy V]

Yeah.

[Saraya]

No.

[Weezy]

No.

[Mandy V]

She said no. All right, guys. Well, thank y' all so much for tuning in to another episode of Decisions, Decisions.

[Better Picks Sponsor]

Have you ever turned a dollar into ten grand? I doubt it. But now you can. On Better Picks, download the Better app, Pick more or less on your favorite players stats, watch the games and win some cash. It's that simple. Better Pick is available in 33 states, including Texas, California and Georgia. Download the Better app today. That's better betr. And get a free $10. No deposit necessary. Must be 21 or older. In a jurisdiction where Better Picks operates, terms and conditions apply. Better Picks Sports just got better.

[Saraya]

This is an iHeart podcast.