EP 453: Our Favorite Moments Of 2025!

Summary

Decisions, Decisions — EP 453: Our Favorite Moments of 2025!

Podcast: Decisions, Decisions
Hosts: Mandii B & WeezyWTF
Date: December 29, 2025
Network: The Black Effect & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This annual wrap-up episode sees Mandii B and WeezyWTF reflecting on their first full year under the new "Decisions, Decisions" banner. The dynamic duo reminisce about their favorite podcast moments (and personal milestones) from 2025, revisiting highlights across taboo-breaking, honest episodes about non-traditional relationships, sexuality, and personal growth. The episode features a playful, heartfelt "MySpace Top 8" style countdown, peppered with behind-the-scenes anecdotes, confessions, laughter, and plenty of unfiltered friendship.

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Main Discussion Segments

1. Introduction & Yearly Reflection (02:20–06:45)

• Mandii and Weezy joke about their shared millennial nostalgia, rebranding, and how younger listeners may not get their MySpace references.
• The hosts explain the episode format: they’ll each share their top three episodes (six total), plus nominate one exclusive favorite from their “Horrible Decisions” Patreon.
• Before diving in, they discuss their 2025 personal and professional milestones.

Notable Quotes:

• "You just wanna connect with the millennials!" — Mandii B. (03:35)

Timestamps:

• Reflections start: 02:20
• 2025 milestones: 04:59

2. Key Personal Achievements & 2026 Goals (06:45–11:45)

• Career: Mandii celebrates their book hitting the NYT Bestseller list and live taping at ESSENCE Live with Kandi.
• Connection: Both discuss meeting fans, the unique energy at signings/appearances, and their evolving relationship as co-hosts.
• Personal goals for 2026:
  • Weezy aims to prioritize family, heal her relationship with her mother, address her health and spending habits.
  • Mandii wants to get a TV project "green-lit or sold," commit to a gym/volunteering routine, and deepen her friendship with Weezy.

Notable Moments:

• Mandii: "I just really like how we've been able to communicate these last couple weeks..." (11:27)

Timestamps:

• Reflections end/goals discussed: 06:45–11:45

3. Gift-Giving Banter & Relationship Real Talk (11:45–18:30)

• Mandii and Weezy go deep into holiday/birthday gifting, expectations, luxury vs. practical, and "acts of service" in relationships.
• Humorous debate: Are clothes a meaningful partner gift? Is a $200 pillow too much? What are “hubby/wifey gifts”?
• Both joke about feeling "out of touch" with prices and changing aspirations—compared to their earlier podcasting years.

Quotes:

• "Clothes are not hubby-wife. Clothes and fragrance? That means you don't really like them." — Mandii B. (17:01)

Timestamps:

• 11:45–18:30

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Hosts’ “MySpace Top 8” Episode Picks & Memorable Clips

Each host presents their favorites, referencing their moments and what made these conversations resonate. Select clips from the episodes are included, with the hosts providing context.

Mandii’s First Pick:

Ep. 417 — Limits on Quality Time & Boundaries (22:07–32:00)

Mandii opens about her relationship with "actor bae," navigating non-monogamy, boundaries around quality time, and the importance of honesty with partners about sexual history and desires.

• Clip highlights: Discussing time apart, boundaries on sex with others, and the challenge of disclosure with friends/partners present.

Quote:

• "I've fucked quite a bit of my friends..." — Mandii B. (26:26)

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Weezy’s First Pick:

Ep. 436 — Babies and Breakups: SK & MyLyn’s Lesbian Parenting Journey (32:09–38:48)

Features a lesbian couple who each carried a child, reflecting on family planning, sperm donation, and redefining gendered expectations around parenthood.

• Clip highlights: The financial realities of sperm donation/IVF, known donor vs. anonymous, queer solidarity, stigma, and how they talk about family origins with their kids.

Quote:

• "Money. That's the easiest place to start." — Jerry Johnson, guest (33:15)

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Mandii’s Second Pick:

Ep. 420 — Finding Love Again with Tank (40:16–47:36)

Celebrity guest Tank joins for unfiltered conversation about R&B’s role in romance, bedroom creativity (or lack thereof), and honest talk on what really turns him on.

• Clip highlights: The most effective "baby-making" songs, ice vs. food in the bedroom, and the power of simplicity in intimacy.

Quotes:

• "You can't steal these pussy-sweater now." — Tank (45:03)
• "I'm so still aroused and amused by the simple things." — Tank (45:37)

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Joint Pick:

Ep. 434 — Sh*t Stories & Marriage Tips with Kev On Stage (51:00–59:46)

Comedy ensues as Kev On Stage retells his notorious “pooped on the bus” story, blending bathroom humor, marriage advice, and lessons about knowing your limits (and listening to your partner).

• Clip highlights: The infamous bus incident, lactose tolerance in the Black community, and why some stories never get old.

Quote:

• "You know your sphincter. It wasn't sphincting." — Kev On Stage (56:37)

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Mandii’s Final Pick:

Ep. 425 — The Polyamory Contract Ft. Jerry Johnson (61:30–68:11)

Actress Jerry Johnson discusses her polyamorous orientation, crafting an “Ethical Non-Monogamy Framework” (and even shares her Google Doc!), breaking open ideas about non-traditional commitment, and the politics of love and freedom.

• Clip highlights: Using a polyamory contract, bringing partners into honest dialogue, and the philosophy behind ethical non-monogamy.

Quotes:

• "I am polyamorous by orientation... it's also connected to my need to decolonize my body, thoughts, and ways of being..." — Jerry Johnson (66:04)
• "People wanna be with me." — Jerry Johnson (68:11)

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Weezy’s Final Pick:

Ep. 423 — Matchmaker Maria: Personality Types & Relationship Compatibility (71:04–77:33)

Matchmaker Maria gives old-school advice (“have him fix something!”) and breaks down relationship dynamics by personality/temperament types (builder, explorer, etc.), exploring how understanding yourself leads to healthier love choices.

Quote:

• "You are Queen Elizabeth II and you are Princess Diana!" — Maria (76:35)

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Patreon Bonus Picks

Mandii:

Ep. 283 — Hedo Tales: Deep Throat Class at Hedonism (80:42–87:19)

• Vivid recap of Mandy attending a real-life oral sex class at Hedonism, with wild tips about the anatomy of deep throat and its psychosomatic play.
• Discussion of overcoming the gag reflex, anatomy links between throat and genitals, and sex-positive sisterhood.

Quote:

• “Just so you know, your throat is connected to your pussy.” — Kasha (84:40)

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Weezy:

Ep. 278 — Ace of Spades: Anime Noises and Pricing Your Kinks (w/ Dom Jax) (91:16–100:47)

Dom Jax shares her path from trauma, trafficking, and nonconsensual sex work to empowered, consensual BDSM and financial domination.

• Storytelling highlights: Navigating the complexities of sex work, agency vs. exploitation, the psychology behind BDSM, and wild anecdotes from the world of pro-domming.

Quote:

• “I don’t do any kind of penetrative sex. That right there once I realized that was something I could do in BDSM, that was it. I’m just like, bend over. I don’t believe in alpha males. I break them.” — Dom Jax (99:47)

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Notable Themes & Takeaways

• Openness in Modern Relationships: Mandii and Weezy continue to challenge traditional relationship norms, emphasizing honest communication, individualized boundaries, and self-knowledge.
• Sex-Positive Education: Whether through candid stories, wild workshops, or bringing on professionals, the podcast keeps pushing for shame-free sex education.
• Community & Representation: Centering queer couples, sex workers, non-monogamous folks, and Black love, the show celebrates diversity and invites unfiltered, vulnerable dialogue.
• Personal Growth: Both hosts reflect on evolving priorities—mental health, family, professional fulfillment, and sustaining their own friendship.

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Memorable Moments

• The Gag Reflex/Throat-to-Pussy Demo at Hedonism: “She says your throat is connected to your pussy…at this point I’m not believing her…” (85:00)
• Kev On Stage’s “Sphincter Wasn’t Sphincting” Story: "I was doing butt kegels...the doodoo was coming out..." (56:41)
• Dom Jax’s Empowering Journey: “There’s a massive difference between sex slave and consensual sex worker. I have been trafficked and pimped. But I’ve also been an independent sex worker.” (92:58)
• Act of Service Gifting Realness: “Always have something for a nigga to put together when he come over.” — Mandy B. (73:15)
• Polyamory as Decolonization: “Ethical non-monogamy...is directly dismantling the patriarchy...” — Jerry Johnson (66:04)

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is a joyful celebration of growth, laughter, and authenticity. From sexual experimentation to family connections, from polyamory contracts to poop stories, Mandii B and WeezyWTF underscore their mission: breaking down taboos, unlearning old narratives, and building a more liberated, connected community—one candid conversation at a time.

To hear more, check out the full episodes mentioned and join their Patreon for deeper dives!

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Key Segment Timestamps Recap:

• 02:20: Introduction & Format
• 04:59: 2025 Reflections/Milestones
• 06:46: 2026 Goals & Relationship Growth
• 11:45: Gifting in Relationships
• 22:07: Favorite Episodes Discussion Begins
• 80:42: Patreon Favorites
• 91:16: Sex Work & BDSM stories

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Hosts to Know:

• Mandii B (@fullcourtpumps)
• WeezyWTF (@weezywtf)

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Transcript

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[D]

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[Mandy B.]

U n D. Welcome to Decisions Decisions. I don't think you should say Decisions Decisions. It sounded like you was talking and cursing.

[Weezy]

You definitely say the.

[Mandy B.]

Welcome. Welcome to the new podcast.

[Weezy]

Oh, wait, you want to say it together?

[Mandy B.]

Decisions, Decisions. Welcome, everybody to the year and Wrap up episode.

[Weezy]

Hey, y'. All, this is a great episode. I actually like, if I meet someone random out somewhere and they're like, where should I start? I always say go to the. Go to the Wrap Up. That way you get a little dash.

[Mandy B.]

That's right. That's right. It is the Decisions Decisions Wrap Up. This is our full first year as Decisions Decisions with the rebrand. As y' all know, Horrible Decisions, though, did not go anywhere. So if y' all miss all the sex, the raunch, the nastiness, head on over to Patreon. That's patreon.com backslash horrible decisions.

[Weezy]

And usually when we do our Wrap up, this is our first year doing it with two podcasts. So we're actually giving you a little bit of a nasty teaser. And this is going to be the top eight episodes. Like a MySpace. So we've got three picks each.

[Mandy B.]

Wheezy just wanted to age us so bad.

[Weezy]

You know what that is?

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, but the young. The young people listening don't know nothing about a top eight.

[Weezy]

On my space listening to our old.

[Mandy B.]

Bro, you just want. You just want to connect with the millennials. So hold on, Wait.

[Weezy]

I will say I went to Everyday People in LA and a walked right up to me and said, girl, I grew up on you. And I said, bro, you're talking to the wrong person. You didn't grow up on me.

[Mandy B.]

Uh huh.

[Weezy]

No, you didn't. Breezy F, baby, he's 23. Nah.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, wait. Oh, he grew up on you with the, with the. With the podcast.

[Weezy]

Yes. So he really did grow up on me, bitch.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, that's crazy.

[Weezy]

23.

[Mandy B.]

Is that crazy? All I want you to know is, you know, I didn't have my little stint of y n the 28 and under. They don't know nothing about no MySpace. Oh, they don't know nothing about no MySpace, child. Well, maybe, maybe 25 and under 28 might know about MySpace. I don't want y' all coming to my comments anyways before we get to our top eight. And by top eight, y', all, Weezy and I are both gonna share our top three episodes of Decisions Decisions for the year, as well as both drop our favorite episode From Horrible Decisions over on the Patreon. Really excited, too, because y' all will get to hear some clips from those episodes through this to bring you back some laughs while you either sit around your annoying ass family or if you have a ghetto ass job, you're there. So let's get into it. But before we do Weezy, let's talk about our favorite just overall moments, accomplishments.

[Weezy]

For the book, the.

[Mandy B.]

The podcast. Oh, no, you know what?

[D]

Duh.

[Weezy]

Like, duh. Oh, podcast cool. Duh, duh. I guess a tie to that accomplishment would be doing one of the episodes at ESSENCE Live with Kandy.

[Mandy B.]

Like I tell you, too. Hold on, we gotta talk about this. What bitch did you see? So we. No, we interviewed Kandy the Fourth of July, bro. They separated July 15, and they were together when we saw them, bro, they made. They clearly wasn't doing well. Not motherfucking. We had to do the whole episode around fucking marriage and keeping it spicy, but not too spicy and talking about how they worked together as a couple after all these years, just for them to separate a week later.

[Weezy]

But they've been together a long time, so you know what? I was thinking about that, but I was like, you know, I guess it's still considered a successful marriage if you were able to last. It can't all be to death.

[Mandy B.]

Well, it's supposed to be. That's why them vows be sounding crazy.

[Weezy]

Well, anyway, that was a good moment.

[Mandy B.]

No, ESSENCE was a great moment. I do also think the book becoming a New York Times bestseller, that was a great moment. And honestly, I would say meeting so many of you guys on the book tour, I think a lot of you, not the book tour, essentially, but when we were doing the bookstores, that was just so different for us. And so that was fun. I really liked that. I really liked that. Outside of that, what are your goals or hopes or prayers for 2026, huh? Bang the bangty sakes.

[Weezy]

I'm trying to make them non work related, okay? I want to be closer to my family. So my mom and I are trying to spend a lot more time with my mom. We got in a really big fight recently because I feel like everybody gets in a fight around the holidays. And I realize, oh, you're. No, you know what? Like, maybe I'm not. Maybe she's right. Maybe I'm not intentional when I spend time. Maybe I do schedule a trip to see my mom when I have a schedule for work. Maybe she's not as prioritized as I think I am. Maybe I'm jamming Too many things in. And I was like, you know, yeah, that's something I do want to. And it's weird because when I was older, I would. I mean, when I was younger, I'd be like, so annoyed at spending a bunch of time with her. But now I'm like, it's kind of cute, like, because she grown. Like, what's she going to do?

[Mandy B.]

You know?

[Weezy]

Like, what decision can I make? What is she going to do? My second thing would be, I lost a lot of weight this year doing a bunch of unhealthy shit. I was just. There was a day where I woke up, I was like, I'm going to just start myself. Like, I was doing some crazy shit and it worked, but I know it's not healthy. And I think I'm honestly experiencing gut issues because.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, you just had lime green shit. Y' all gotta join us on Patreon.

[Weezy]

Yeah, I think I fucked myself up doing that. And the third thing is I want to spend less money on clothes.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

This isn't even of me trying to save money. This is me trying to save space in my life.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, yeah, girl. I just had Krystal come over to help me with my closets. It's getting ridiculous.

[Weezy]

What is all this shit? Now I'm trying to give myself a little bit of break. I'm like, you know what? I'm filming horrible and buying stuff or buying. Even if I buy a five dollar top, I'm like, oh, well, it's a different shirt to put on for the next episode. So one of the things I realized we were in L. A this last week.

[Mandy B.]

We should get uniforms.

[Weezy]

No, because they like the bro.

[Mandy B.]

We should just get uniforms. We could get slutty uniforms. We could get two, three uniforms.

[Weezy]

We should. I love wearing a costume.

[Mandy B.]

We should just get uniforms. It would. It. It would help both of us with the anxiety around packing multiple outfits when we travel. We should fucking get uniforms. And then.

[Weezy]

But that's the thing. That is a.

[Mandy B.]

It's a.

[Weezy]

It's a capsule wardrobe as a uniform. This week, I literally packed a bag to la and I've worn these same clothes every day. And I said to my nigga, I feel like we're Kanye and Julia Fox wearing the same outfits. You remember when they looked like they wasn't changing clothes, but it's not the same clothes. I'm wearing a pair of black jeans with a black shirt. Then I'm wearing a sweatsuit that's all black. Now I'm changing the tank. I'm changing the Sweatpants. I'm wearing the same thing every day. And so all I could think to myself is, bitch, what you bought all these clothes for?

[Mandy B.]

For when you go out? We should really consider uniform. I'm going to start, I'm going to look up school uniforms or something like that. I like it because I. Okay, those are three bad ones. Those are good. Those are good. Those are good. Those are good. For me. I had to lean in professionally first because that's like all I fucking care about. So for me, I am hoping to get something greenlit or something sold. I've been working these last probably six months since we stopped writing the book. I just like creating and writing and shit now. So I'm like working on a reality show. I'm actively now pitching periods this the animated series and I'm working on two scripted shows, so one being a film. So hopefully one of those get greenlit or sold, who knows? Because based on how fucking television works, it takes years to get shit sold. So there's that. My second one would be getting a goddamn workout routine. Now I'm not starting this shit on the 1st because New Year, new me ain't how I do shit.

[Weezy]

Bitch trap house ready to take some.

[Mandy B.]

Money now for the month of January, I'm going, I'm doing a dry January. So I'm hoping that like I'm able to get some sort of routine in the gym. Not only the gym. I have been volunteering a lot more and I would like to find a way to volunteer, if not weekly, bi weekly, and the third one ironically. You're going to be shocked. I talked about it in therapy. Maybe we needed a three month break. I actually bought you a gift for the holidays that I'm going to give you. I just really like how we've been able to communicate over the last couple weeks. I don't know what it is.

[Weezy]

I need more break.

[Mandy B.]

It's been, it's been so good. We've been agreeing. We've been seeing eye to eye. We've been understanding and I'm like, it's a break. Wow. I said I'm not coming in with hate. I'm curious about your life. I'm excited to record at the top of the year. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening?

[Weezy]

I think now I have to get you. I hate on.

[Mandy B.]

You have to give me.

[Weezy]

No, no, no, no, no, no. I prefer when people tell me, last year I got Alex a gift because he built the midtown studio. And he was like, oh, you did? Then I hear him And Claire, like, da, da, da, da. But question. Okay, do we present the gifts on camera for the first episode?

[Jerry Johnson]

We can.

[Weezy]

Okay, tell me the dollar amount. Now I can match.

[Mandy B.]

Now, here's the thing. The gift is something I know you gonna like. That's all I'm gonna tell you. And I know you gonna like it because the audience also know you gonna like it. That's all I'm giving you.

[Weezy]

Okay, wait, give me the dollar amount so I can match.

[Mandy B.]

I don't know. I've never looked it up, but a hundred. Hold on, let me look it up right now. I guess it depends. Oh, God damn this shit.

[Weezy]

Get high. Okay, wait, that's enough. Maybe I won't get it.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, they have one in the $100 range.

[Weezy]

Okay, so. Okay, so I'll do 100 then.

[Mandy B.]

No, but it's still above a hundred.

[Weezy]

Oh, shit. Okay.

[Mandy B.]

What the fuck am I even. There's a lot of options for this, you know. Girl, we both rich. It don't matter. Give me some, auntie. I see what I'm gonna get you, though, but I'm not gonna look like no broke bitch either, so I gotta really do my investigation. I think there's a poor version of this, and I don't want to get you the broke person version of it because then it's not really a game. Oh, my God.

[Weezy]

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. If I'm getting you a gift, I would get you probably whether you like it or not. One thing I'm obsessed with, I like luxury house goods. Like luxury.

[Mandy B.]

Why are you going through this? I'm aware.

[Weezy]

No, I'm just saying.

[Mandy B.]

I know. Okay, which is why I know what you go like, getting.

[Weezy]

Hold on, wait. Can I tell you how I got my nigga for Christmas and I think he gonna hate it.

[Mandy B.]

What?

[Weezy]

Okay. So this is what I bought. I cannot figure out what to get him.

[Mandy B.]

So you got him what?

[Weezy]

Okay. He was like, I got everything I want. Now for birthdays is when we spend thousands, right? That's when you get the expense again. I'm like, okay, well, you doing Christmas few hundred. What am I gonna get? I feel like 500 is your boyfriend girlfriend gift.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

I hope y' all ain't listening to this being like, maybe for you.

[Kev On Stage]

You good?

[Weezy]

I'm over here. Okay. So I don't know what he got me, but I was like, let me just get him shit he doesn't know he needs. So I got an easy plant that's self watering because one of his plans keep getting fucked up. Then I got him a $200 pillow that molds to your head and has a cooling sensation so that his locks don't get sweaty. It's from 8 or some shit. It's some like, ridiculous. I was like, just luxury gadgets. And then the other thing I got was a Nintendo 64 from back in the day.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, that's cute.

[Weezy]

I feel like that's fun. And also on crits of this, but.

[Mandy B.]

Turn your into a gamer. But yes.

[Weezy]

Well, he said something to me about how like, oh, do you remember how much fun like this was months ago? How like you were you a kid that you used to play games. Like it was so much fun back then. But I feel like it's different now. He's like, they got to look into the screen. You got to talk to n what about this simple game. I was like, you know what?

[Mandy B.]

So you got the Nintendo 64 with games?

[Weezy]

I did. I bought Mario party.

[Mandy B.]

It was $90.

[Weezy]

Look at you for the game.

[Mandy B.]

Hey guys, you should spend at least $500. It was $90.

[Weezy]

No, no, no, no, no. For a game that's real, it can't be new. It's all refurbished games, they're expensive. I didn't know that. Well, then I thought it was good because I'm like, oh, Christmas day now we could play with something. But my mom was flying in to be with us for Christmas, so. Girl, I don't know what to get Jewel. She's just going to get cash and some roses.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Are you getting your boyfriend's gift?

[Mandy B.]

I was just about to say nice. Yes. Not really. Um, so my. It's weird because one of my boyfriends don't really celebrate holidays. I don't know why I keep getting niggas that don't like to celebrate holidays. They're like such anti capitalists. But yet his birthday's in January and I was like, ooh, we could do a trip. We could do something. He just wants a threesome. Jesus. Um, and then my, my other boyfriend, I was at Saks the other day and he dresses really nice. So I was thinking of just getting him like a, a coat. But I didn't realize how expensive n clothes was. I thought n clothes was cheap, bitch. Like, they like, I didn't know, like just their outerwear was so expensive.

[Weezy]

Dog 2 that we looked. Did you watch the Kevin Hart special Special?

[Mandy B.]

No.

[Weezy]

Now he has on a Bottega jacket and it's $6,000, bro.

[Mandy B.]

I didn't realize how expensive outerwear was. And he he big like. So I got It. I got to get, like, an Excel. Like, but he. But that's the one that be getting me on my little nice gifts and stuff and.

[Weezy]

Oh, so you have a luxury gadget.

[Mandy B.]

Luxury gift.

[Weezy]

No. Luxury gadget. That's why I got the pillow thing.

[Mandy B.]

What I realized for my birthday, getting the ninja coffee maker. The ninja slushy machine, or. No, it's the Keurig. What I've realized about Ginger getting gadgets is those are hubby wifey gifts. I just want to keep this. Like, oh, it's clothes. Clothes are not hubby wife. Because remember when I had a situationship and I got him a Nike tech suit? No, clothes are not. They don't mean anything. Sorry. If you bought your nigga clothes. Clothes is simple clothes and fragrance. That means you don't really like that.

[Weezy]

Okay, you know what? It's the price point.

[Mandy B.]

Then it is the price. Okay, but he got a chef, so I know I'm not gonna get him nothing for the kitchen.

[Weezy]

Who's your number one bitch?

[Mandy B.]

Okay, he got a chef. Okay. He do got a chef. Okay, let's get into our.

[Weezy]

They gotta be like, they about to call us. Out of touch, bitch. I got my nigga a $200 pillow. He gonna make me return it, too. They.

[Mandy B.]

No, they're gonna look at. You know what? If you guys wanna hear us be more down to earth, go back to 2018, 2019, where all I wanted was the Balenciagas that looked like socks and a Gucci belt.

[Weezy]

Oh, I wanted screams.

[Mandy B.]

Go back and listen to those little. Those luxuries that I wanted back then. Okay.

[Weezy]

All I wanted was a. So Kate Louboutin.

[Mandy B.]

God damn.

[Ed Helms]

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[Mandy B.]

Let's get into it. I wanted to start off with a solo episode for my selection here because you bitches ain't get a lot of solo episodes this year. Yeah, y' all don't fucking angry man. 2026 we're giving y' all solo episodes. Especially while I miss being around Weezy like that means you're going to get great content for at least the first two months, so. Because who knows when it's going to change? I don't know, but my first favorite episode of the year had Wheezy gagged, had Eden shocked and had some of you guys saying I wasn't shit and defending me in the YouTube comments.

[Weezy]

I know which one that was.

[Mandy B.]

My episode is episode 417, which is when I was in my relationship this year with actor bae. And then I don't wanna be around her for four days. Three days. It was four, four days, three nights. But anyways, the conversation went into putting a limit on quality time and insecurities versus boundaries.

[Weezy]

Hold on, wait. I found something that I screenshotted two days ago and I said I have to show Mandy this because this actually should be your next long term partnership. Everybody in the comments thought you were crazy. I thought you were crazy. I. In my brain, I still think the limitation is crazy, but that's an unfair same thing to say because that's how my brain works. There was something I found online that talked about the different types of relationship and so the parallel lifers, this is how it works. These two people vibe side by side, but not intertwined. They thrive on separate routines, low emotional demand and independence. You can both coexist smoothly, but there's no sense like there's no emotional overlap. And that may be conscious or chosen, but basically how these couples work, they enjoy having separate shit and coming together when they need to.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. Also still currently undiagnosed, but highly neurodivergent, which is what I learned about myself this year in terms of my recharge ability and all the other things. Here goes a clip from episode 4 17. Anyway, what's crazy is so I'm telling him that, you know, ah, ah, ah. And he was like, we're gonna put a pin in this. Cause I feel away. What do you mean? You were just in the room with someone who had fingered you before. And I was like, yeah, the optics are tough. And I said, and when he fingered me, nigga, it was with and with the permission of my ex boyfriend in.

[Weezy]

A sex club in your relationship today as it stands, can you get. Could you have gotten fingered by him?

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I'm not going to lie. And maybe I'll hear more of it on Patreon. I literally went out the other night and literally text him so drunk. Babe, what's our boundaries again? Because I want to eat pussy tonight. And I literally fudged someone.

[Weezy]

No, no, I fucked a girl, not women.

[Mandy B.]

And well, no, no, no. Right now it's just women. He's even said, babe, if we have so much time apart and you have the urge, I would want you to share with me that urge. To see a man, because I' ma probably try to book the next flight out. But if we're in a space where like he's looking at a role right now, that might take him to Europe for months.

[Weezy]

And she's like, I'm only going over there four days.

[Mandy B.]

If I can't get to Europe because maybe we're on tour, I let him know we'll have that conversation. But you could have sex. And baby, if I'm in the need, I'm going to need some too.

[Weezy]

Do you think he has the same sexual appetite of like, wanting to fuck other people?

[Mandy B.]

No, he's told me he doesn't. Okay, that's on him. I like women.

[Weezy]

Look to me like that other.

[Mandy B.]

I mean, I like women. Which is why, like, I, I did, I, I hit him up and was like, babe, I really want to like, be with a woman tonight.

[Weezy]

But right now he doesn't want you to have sex with other men.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no, no, no, no. But I don't need to. Like, even the way he's like the, the flowers.

[Weezy]

You don't need to have sex with other woman either.

[Mandy B.]

I just want to say that. Well, no, he ain't got a pussy, so it's completely different. Like, sex and intimacy with a woman is way different than a man. Which is why I've said we are non monogamous. And an element of that is because when and if I have the desire to be with a woman, I, I don't want that. That caged away.

[Weezy]

Niggas love that shit though. But I think the real, they love.

[Mandy B.]

It when it's part of it. No, they also love it when it's. When they can be a part of it. Mind you, I also. So he asked me about the like. So, baby, did you get pussy last night? I said yeah. He was like, ooh, tell me about her. I said, it was my friend. And me and her just went and got food the other night. And so even him, he's like, oh, she was really touchy on you. But I'm like, nigga, you know we fucked.

[Kev On Stage]

So what?

[Jerry Johnson]

That's my friend.

[Mandy B.]

He's having to get used to the fact that, well, I've fucked quite a bit of my friends. Like, he's about to meet one in la, babe, we've had sex before. Like, and so now he's like, I want to know who you've had sex with before, even if I meet them. And I said, okay.

[Weezy]

Oh, I think that's a good rule.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, I think that's fine.

[Weezy]

Girl, we just went out to some I'm a piano party at Ludlow house. And I'm like, it was so funny. I was like, damn, that girl looks so cute and familiar. I thought she was like an influencer. So he's looking embarrassed and I'm like, what's wrong? Oh, is that the bitch you fucked in the parking lot that one time? And then a second later I'm like, oh, I went out with that nigga. And he's like, who the fuck are we, bro?

[Jerry Johnson]

We just.

[Mandy B.]

That we can't go nowhere.

[Weezy]

And I love having that. But I will say I like knowing I don't want to be around no bitch. I'm saying what's up too, because I'm a cool ass bitch. Bro, you told me you was fudgeing a bitch last week when I was out of town. As long as I know I'm okay. I'm very, very comfortable. The sneakiness is what I can't do. Knowing that I could be around somebody that you keep. You're holding this from.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, so you. I don't know. Maybe I just want a good time.

[Kev On Stage]

To tell your said partner about this, by the way.

[Mandy B.]

What do you mean?

[Weezy]

If we're in a space, let's just say we go out to a restaurant bar.

[Mandy B.]

Do I tell them? Because I've had scenarios like this before.

[Weezy]

Where you had a before too.

[Mandy B.]

Oh yeah, okay. Yeah, so I've had a partner and then she was around another girl that.

[Weezy]

Yeah, you don't let me see.

[Mandy B.]

Fornicated with and then. So okay, so okay, so I gotta do it there.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Kev On Stage]

Ah.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, you should have seen the way me and. Me and my boyfriend just been telling stories and I brought up somebody and he was like, ah, that's awkward. I had a relationship with that person. So then he brings someone else up and I had to be like, ah, you remember how you were weird about me? Cause they were celebrities. So I was like, ah, you want to know how it was weird? I brought up that girl. Oh, I'm adjacent to. Oh yeah, that guy that you just mentioned. I. We kind of fucked. It's so funny because he was like.

[Weezy]

I'm actually kind of shocked.

[Mandy B.]

I mean we did. We kind of fucked.

[Weezy]

I kind of let him put it in.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, we kind of. It was only like a two time thing. And here he goes. Because he knows.

[Weezy]

He was like, would you confuse.

[Mandy B.]

You said what?

[Weezy]

Would you want to know if you were in the same space or would you want to know later?

[Mandy B.]

Or do you mean in the same space? Like, when do you find that out? Or like you're going to one of his work events.

[Weezy]

Yeah. Let's say there's a colleague he slept with or a woman that's in the field, whatever. Would you want to know if you guys are around her all night, or would you want to know later? Do you have a boundary with that?

[Mandy B.]

That you know yet let me know and I don't know changes anything?

[Weezy]

No, I'm saying Mandy. But when would you feel weird if he told you? The next day?

[Mandy B.]

What if I told you next week?

[Weezy]

I was there three to three hours.

[Mandy B.]

I mean, it depends if we are talking to each other. If it's a woman who's just in the room, that I don't have a connection, he would never maybe know. She comes up and, you know, I'm introduced to her at that moment when she leaves us. Maybe tell me, because now I've.

[Weezy]

So you want to know in the.

[Mandy B.]

Place only if we've interacted.

[Weezy]

Yeah, that's the point.

[Mandy B.]

If she's just in the room. So imagine you point out everybody that you've fucked in the room.

[Jerry Johnson]

If I.

[Mandy B.]

Like, I might not have even seen him.

[Weezy]

There shouldn't be that many people in the room. But I will say I've never seen him ignore someone he slept with. Generally speaking. He'll tell me, oh, that girl over there. And he'll always say, hello.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, I ain't gonna hold you or introduce my whole niggas. Hey, if you see me with a nigga, do not come up and speak to me, okay? Do not disrespect. We are not together. If I am with another nigga, I'm not gonna lie. I think it's petty and it's disrespectful. What if we fucked before and I'm outside with another nigga? Do not text me. DM me. Or, I mean, do not text me. That's weird. Text me. Say you saw me in a room. Okay, wait, that's kind of wild. Get the out of here.

[Kev On Stage]

That's weird.

[Weezy]

What's weird?

[Kev On Stage]

Like, the dude texting her, oh, yo.

[Mandy B.]

I saw you, but I seen you as well.

[Podcast Announcer]

Which.

[Weezy]

Which.

[Mandy B.]

Which happened.

[Weezy]

Say hello.

[Mandy B.]

Even I was a no boo.

[Weezy]

Hello.

[Mandy B.]

I was a nobu before I got with my boyfriend.

[Weezy]

Wait.

[Mandy B.]

Nope.

[Weezy]

You're saying don't say hello.

[Kal Penn]

No.

[Kev On Stage]

Don't say hello.

[Weezy]

Say hello.

[Mandy B.]

No.

[Kev On Stage]

Why?

[Weezy]

Why are we acting?

[Mandy B.]

You want to know if you're across the room and you see me on a date or with somebody and all we did was, let's be Very clear. Y' all know a only got one. Okay, never mind. That's different from I. And you see me out with another nigga. Do not make yourself be known. Do not come and say hi. Keep your ass across the room. I mean, if I see you and.

[Weezy]

I see you when I see you.

[Mandy B.]

You got me fucked up. There's no reason if all we did was fuck, which again, y' all know I got one ex everybody else situationships. Fuck boys. Do not come and speak to me while I'm on another meeting.

[Weezy]

Don't say nothing.

[Mandy B.]

So now if I see a man from across the room that I slept with who is clearly out with another woman, I'm making my way to go.

[Weezy]

Over there to say hi.

[Mandy B.]

I mean, lame chat, bro.

[Weezy]

I'm just gonna say hi.

[Mandy B.]

I don't know.

[Weezy]

I'm not gonna. I'm saying don't be getting close proximity like at the bar or. I'm not gonna not. I'd be like, head down.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no. That's why I distinct. I distinctively said, if we are across the room, there's no reason for you to make your way to come say hi.

[Weezy]

That was a doozy. So let's talk about couples that spend a lot of time together. One of my favorite episodes this year was episode 436, Babies and Breakups. It was SK and my Lin. Yeah, if you guys maybe follow them online. They are a lesbian couple that both carry their own like. Like their children. And so I just found it mind boggling because normally you see normal femme girl. Like, that's just like, normally what it looks like. She'll carry the babies. But they each carried a child in their womb and supported each other through it. They also were like, giving us funny tea about a breakup and a makeup and, like, how they stick together. And they've been together 12 years. So I really enjoyed just hearing them be honest about their dynamic. And it was fun.

[Mandy B.]

I'm gonna see if I can actually get my friend to agree to come on this year. So my homegirl Ash is a black femme girl married to a white, androgynous, masculine butch woman. And they are currently now married. They just got married and they are family planning together where they want to insert the white woman's egg into my black homegirl and use their homeboy as the sperm donor. Did I say that? Crazy.

[Weezy]

That should sound like what Skmyln did.

[Mandy B.]

Yes. So anyways, hope we're able to get them on the show. But yeah, really excited for you guys to also hear a clip from this. What is this episode again?

[Weezy]

Weezy 4:36 Babies in breakups with SK and my Lynn. Enjoy. Now, in the case of you two, I'm so curious how you got to the point where you said adoption, sperm donation. Should it be someone we know? Should it be somebody that we. How did this all happen?

[Mandy B.]

Did you go to a bank? Did you visit a friend?

[D]

Our finances.

[Jerry Johnson]

I was about to say the term.

[D]

That shit for us.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, the easy answer is money.

[Jerry Johnson]

That's the easiest place to start.

[Mandy B.]

So that's why it was no IVF.

[Weezy]

Or our IVF or I've also been.

[Jerry Johnson]

An for a long time.

[Mandy B.]

So ain't no insurance. Wait, and you have three kids. So did one of you carry? Did both of you carry? So at the top, when I met my lynch, she had a son. Okay. Had a son. Okay. And then y' all had two after.

[Jerry Johnson]

We always had one and then we had two. I carried first.

[Mandy B.]

Okay. And did he have to like, where did the sperm come from? If y' all was talking about money.

[Podcast Announcer]

Okay, let's.

[Weezy]

Let's start.

[Kal Penn]

Let's.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, let's clarify this. It has to do is a stretch, right? Okay. Not first off. No, not like that. Not like that. That's her 1779. Well, we was talking about. You don't need but a linen sheet.

[Weezy]

I just want to apologize.

[Mandy B.]

It was an ice bag that you need. What did you say? The cheese cloth. You know, I just feel like some interviewers aren't.

[Weezy]

We don't know how to. The filter that you filter deceive it.

[Mandy B.]

Through like the Linda Floss. I just know we also talked about non monogamy. But if it's done for science and done for a purpose, maybe it's not considered che. You know what I mean? Like, what were the.

[Jerry Johnson]

I like. I don't like. I don't know.

[Weezy]

You know what though? I would feel like if this was my wife and I knew they had to do that to get pregnant, it would then make me feel like it wasn't ours. Like I wouldn't feel like there's this connection because you just got to do this thing and bring life with somebody else. Like I would want to be a.

[Mandy B.]

Part of the process if they had it. But you are.

[D]

Not.

[Weezy]

I'm not joking because you. I mean when I was watching the L Word when I was younger, that's.

[Jerry Johnson]

The episode that everybody.

[Mandy B.]

When Tina and what's the name went.

[Jerry Johnson]

To the club, found that boy, brought him home.

[Weezy]

But they were going to have a.

[Mandy B.]

Threesome though she was faking Like a threesome.

[Jerry Johnson]

And he realized when he kept trying.

[Mandy B.]

To put a condom on and they kept being like, no. He was like, y' all trying to get more of my sp.

[Weezy]

But on the first episode, it wasn't like that. They were, like, using turkey baster. They were making love putting. So to me, that is how I would want to do it. So.

[Jerry Johnson]

But it was really interesting that you say that, because in that episode where they do choose to have a threesome.

[Mandy B.]

They are doing it together.

[Weezy]

Together.

[Mandy B.]

They are very much locked into what they're.

[Jerry Johnson]

It's not even about him at all. He doesn't even go.

[Weezy]

He just.

[Mandy B.]

They just want his. Yeah. It was still very about them.

[Jerry Johnson]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

But if I'm not there, I'm gonna feel like.

[Mandy B.]

So how did. How did both of your. How were. Were your experiences different with the assimilation? Like, can we know Yalls story? No, we have.

[Kal Penn]

Yes.

[Jerry Johnson]

We have a known donor. Okay. When we found a known donor, we made it.

[Mandy B.]

And he's very open.

[Jerry Johnson]

He was very honest with us. He's like, whatever you guys want to do. We put in a contract.

[Mandy B.]

We.

[Jerry Johnson]

We figured it out. He's person. So we were able to just have a conversation. He was like, do you want me to be involved?

[Kev On Stage]

Do you not want me to be involved?

[Jerry Johnson]

Do you want me to be private?

[Mandy B.]

Do you want me to be public?

[Jerry Johnson]

Do you want.

[Mandy B.]

Like, he was very. Did he ask for a check at all?

[D]

And when we say involved, we mean.

[Weezy]

In the child's life.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Not involved.

[D]

Like, it's no sex over here.

[Mandy B.]

No.

[Kev On Stage]

No.

[D]

So it's. That was.

[Mandy B.]

So you were. The contract was specifically around using his sperm to create life. And then the conversation.

[D]

The donor agreement.

[Mandy B.]

Donor. Donor agreement. And the conversations around that was how present he can be if you want it to be what you wanted as well. And all of that.

[Weezy]

Right?

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, because we know.

[Weezy]

So were you learning those answers with him? When you guys spoke for the first time, did you already discuss, like, what you wanted before talking to him?

[Jerry Johnson]

A little bit?

[Weezy]

Okay, absolutely.

[Mandy B.]

Because we had tried for.

[Weezy]

We'd been trying already two years before.

[D]

Yeah. Two years before finally reaching out to him.

[Mandy B.]

And as you just jumped straight, said.

[D]

Did y' all fucking. So did a couple of other men that we had.

[Mandy B.]

Okay. So people friends.

[D]

They were like.

[Mandy B.]

And, like, had only said yes because.

[Weezy]

He thought he was about to me. Oh.

[Mandy B.]

Shut up.

[Weezy]

So don't talk to him no more.

[D]

No.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

And I was just like, how you.

[Kal Penn]

Wanted it to be.

[Weezy]

And then the other friend told me.

[Mandy B.]

Like, you know, I love you. But a child needs a father in his life. So time.

[Jerry Johnson]

You've been homophobic.

[Mandy B.]

Get out of here.

[D]

So does it.

[Mandy B.]

So, like, you have all these. Well, yeah, because even that, that process, you don't want to procreate with someone because then clearly they don't. They don't respect this union. No, yeah, exactly, exactly. So I was all like, wow, we got to see. Really?

[D]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

Shift to SK because of these experiences you had. Did you give up at any point?

[Mandy B.]

No, it was always for her.

[Weezy]

He just assumed it was me.

[Mandy B.]

And I was just like, it was always me.

[D]

It was always.

[Weezy]

Now let's talk about. Let's break that down a little bit. Pregnant, you get the. Because we could see. We know what we're seeing in this dynamic. We're seeing someone wear mask presenting when choosing to carry. Did you feel those stares? 2023.

[Mandy B.]

She was not mask presenting them. I wore a wig, baby.

[Jerry Johnson]

When I had this baby, I had nails on. Okay.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Jerry Johnson]

Real femme. So I was just saying, like, when.

[Mandy B.]

We met, I wore a wedding dress. We're very much different. How old are the children now? 5 and 3. Is there a conversation? Because of course you go to schools and there's these whole dynamics about mommy, daddy, you know what I mean? Is there a conversation at all about who the father is or is he able to be introduced? What was the. What was it with your.

[Weezy]

With your children? I think she said with your children. Yeah, basically. I think that the question to roundabout is really like, where do your children think they've come from?

[Mandy B.]

Because. Yeah, that's taught in schools. And I'm sure you know what I mean.

[Kal Penn]

Yes.

[Jerry Johnson]

Our kids haven't necessarily gotten to an age.

[Mandy B.]

Okay. Like, they.

[Jerry Johnson]

They came from my stomach.

[Mandy B.]

That's all right.

[Weezy]

No, they can say no photos.

[Mandy B.]

They can see.

[D]

Our five year old, who is on the spectrum is very logical. It's very.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[D]

He's like, my skin matches mama's skin.

[Mandy B.]

I was in her belly. Okay. Was y' all match skins? You were in her belly?

[D]

No.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[Weezy]

Mama and mommy.

[D]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

I have another like, lesbian couple that I know that are conceiving right now. And I'm like, I got drunk with one of them. I'm like, who finna be mama?

[J]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

She was like, you've been waiting. I said, I don't do.

[Mandy B.]

I feel like Theresa, you said, it's mama and mommy.

[Weezy]

Most that I've met.

[D]

Yeah.

[Weezy]

But dads, I think it's daddy and dad.

[Mandy B.]

Have you had the conversation when they get older around. I mean, clearly, again, in sex ed they're going to learn that the sperm has to swim.

[Kev On Stage]

Oh, we.

[Mandy B.]

That's the thing. Lennox is our eldest, is, like she.

[Jerry Johnson]

Said, on the spectrum, his superpower is fucking logic.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, you can read everything. So he's already questioned. I can't give you a.

[Jerry Johnson]

When you get older, he'll be like, what year? When? Should I ask again?

[Mandy B.]

He don't play that shit. He's like, I want to know and.

[Jerry Johnson]

I need to know.

[Mandy B.]

With logic.

[Jerry Johnson]

And if it doesn't make sense, he'll ask a question.

[Mandy B.]

All right, all right. I, too, enjoyed that episode, but maybe not as much as this next one. We don't really do many celebrities on the podcast because, to be fair, a lot of them are closed with, you know, what they want to share, and they're kind of boring. But Tank was not. Tank, who's one of our cousins on the Black Effect network, who pretty much ran down on us at the Black Effect Festival, was like, when am I going to be on a pod? Let's set it up. So we ended up setting it up, but it was the day after I got to go to Hell's Kitchen.

[Weezy]

I never got to see it, which.

[Mandy B.]

Is the Broadway show that is based around Alicia Keys discography, and it was fantastic. So here's a clip from our episode with Tank. It is episode 420, finding love again. Check it out.

[Weezy]

What if you had to choose out of these, like, you know, your Mount Rushmore. What is the perfect R and B track or artist for baby making music? Because today I'm fucking to Naomi, Sharon, a little bit of Brent, actually. Tyrese be coming in and out of there sometimes too. But for a beautiful, intimate, romantic moment, it's really not the Brent or the Naomi.

[Mandy B.]

Who would it be?

[Weezy]

Who is the artist that guaranteed panties off? The fellas need this one. Cause I don't know what the fuck them niggas be putting on.

[J]

Yeah, you gotta. It depends on the woman.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, I think that's so specific because. Well, then pick yours.

[J]

Because women, you know, women are different now. You know what I mean? Women, you see more women under them.

[Mandy B.]

Trap host I built a gym called Trap House Tank.

[J]

You know what I'm saying? So it's like it depends on the woman and what she own. If she. If in that intimate moment, she wanna smoke some weed and get some Hennessy in her body and get tossed around, or if she, you know, or if she wants some nice Sade playing and she really wants somebody to look deep into her eyes.

[Weezy]

Stop looking at me.

[Mandy B.]

You know what I'M saying, oh, my God.

[J]

Like, it really depends on. Because it's about listening. Right? And so you have to, number one, be curious and ask questions. Because no one way works for everything. Not in this space.

[Mandy B.]

Right.

[J]

You know what I mean? Women. Every woman is absolutely different.

[Weezy]

Oh, you sound like a hoe.

[Mandy B.]

Right?

[Weezy]

From that talk about.

[Mandy B.]

All of them are different.

[Weezy]

They all like something different. They do. You know, when Amanda had their day.

[Mandy B.]

They talk like this. They do.

[J]

At what day?

[Mandy B.]

Thank you.

[Weezy]

You got that chain on. I see.

[J]

I'm in my day. I ain't had nothing list having.

[Weezy]

I would.

[Mandy B.]

I want to get away from music for a little bit. But still digging into one of my favorite records from you. I made a game from Winwe, which I love. And the remix. The remix is the one. Goddamn it. When they say what remix is better than, like, God, I think you made, like, three. There's a lot of remixes.

[J]

No, the official was me and Ty$.

[Mandy B.]

You trade. Ty$. Oh, my God.

[J]

They went crazy.

[Mandy B.]

They went. They went crazy bananas. If you have not heard that record. One of my favorites. So I made an icebreaker to get you to talk a little bit. Sex, little relationship. A little. All the things.

[J]

See how we go.

[Mandy B.]

So this one's gonna be fun. When we bring food into the bedroom to spice things up, I always suggest you're gonna finish the blank. So it's a bunch of winweeds. And I wanna see what you be.

[J]

Doing when we bring food.

[Mandy B.]

Food into the bedroom. Have you never brought anything into the bedroom?

[J]

I've tried and failed. I'm cool. When we say food, this ain't food. I'll say ice. That's it.

[Mandy B.]

Ice.

[Weezy]

That's my mama's face.

[Mandy B.]

Okay. I'm not mad at that.

[J]

That's the furthest we're going with food.

[Weezy]

Where do the ice go?

[J]

Absolutely.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, why has food failed? You wouldn't play with food. You ain't rubbed food nowhere.

[J]

Like the idea of getting sticky.

[Mandy B.]

Okay.

[J]

And I'm not mad. You got to wipe that down.

[Mandy B.]

He said ice. He said we not making a mess.

[J]

Okay, well.

[Mandy B.]

Well, wait, no.

[Weezy]

Where's the ice go.

[J]

Again? It depends. I mean, the ice can go on, the ice can go in.

[Weezy]

That was your nipples. Shit.

[J]

Both. What do you mean?

[Mandy B.]

Period?

[Weezy]

Okay.

[Jerry Johnson]

That's all.

[Weezy]

We wanted to hear you say it.

[J]

Perfect.

[Mandy B.]

Now, here's the interesting one. Interrelationships. When we argue, it's usually because of miscommunication. Okay.

[Jerry Johnson]

Period.

[Mandy B.]

Valid. I don't think we have to go deeper into that.

[Weezy]

Now.

[Mandy B.]

Here's a fun one. When we role play, I always request to be.

[J]

Now I'm just making some shit up.

[Mandy B.]

You've never role played before or what would you like your partner to dress up as? Like, has there ever been a scenario where we're like, let's just have fun tonight. Let's role play something.

[Weezy]

No, this outfit could be role play. You want to know what it would be?

[J]

What?

[Weezy]

Okay, all you gotta do is pull the beanie down.

[Mandy B.]

Banks and rock.

[J]

No, you robbing all them banks and shit. You can't steal these pussy sweater now.

[Mandy B.]

That's right. I'm the saying that shit.

[Weezy]

Wait, Tank, let me tell you, if you wasn't going to this play tonight, I would have invited you. So I'm going to Questlove does game night in New York, right? He was like, oh, I know how much you love sinners. Ryan Coogler's gonna be there. Please don't say it. Cause I've been saying it every day. I'm like, please, Lord, don't let me get one tequila and play uno with this nigga.

[J]

I'm definitely gonna say it.

[Weezy]

Oh, I know.

[Mandy B.]

And I don't care.

[Weezy]

I don't give a shit. I'm just gonna be like, thank you so much.

[J]

But you know what? And the thing about that, like, with the role play and things like that.

[Kev On Stage]

Like.

[J]

I'm so still aroused and amused by the simple things, you know what I mean? Like, you know, like my wife having on a T shirt that just slightly shows the butt cheeks just a little bit and slightly shows the panty and the print up front. Like, that's like, ooh. That's. Ooh.

[Weezy]

It's a gesture that.

[J]

That's all I need.

[Mandy B.]

Okay?

[J]

Like, all like that easy. My wife be like this. You need some of this. Absolutely. Like, it's like she don't have to do a bunch of extra anything. Now, listen, I welcome it for sure, but I don't require it. I am that much, you know, ready and available for just the thought of it.

[Mandy B.]

Okay?

[Weezy]

Like, you gonna walk around, but notice the men that have, like, a lot of money or affluent or can get any woman say these things that it's simplicity. Like, you ain't even gotta do too much.

[J]

No, I don't. I find that people with more access get bored quickly, you know what I mean? And they have to find other ways, more ways to be stimulated.

[Mandy B.]

I think right now, a lot of us actually do. Whether you have money or not, because you can literally open up your Twitter app or open up The Internet. And it's all right there.

[J]

All right there.

[Mandy B.]

Now, I want to role play with you just a little bit. The last question when we're in public and I whisper in your ear, I'm telling you finish, and I want you to whisper it so the audience can hear you.

[J]

I want to devour that.

[Weezy]

Ooh.

[Mandy B.]

Be on the bank trains and a pussy. Shit. Okay.

[Weezy]

We love a big word in sex.

[Mandy B.]

Ooh, devour is not a big word, girl.

[Weezy]

Somebody could say, eat. Mandy, I'm gonna take the vow.

[J]

I like what you're doing.

[Weezy]

Devour my flower.

[Mandy B.]

Devour my flower. There you have it. There you have it. There you have it.

[Ed Helms]

Hey, everyone. Ed Helms here.

[Mandy B.]

And hi, I'm Cal Penn and we're.

[Kev On Stage]

The hosts of Earsay, the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Podcast Announcer]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Kal Penn]

You got a little call in first.

[Ed Helms]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I'm not Mr. Bennett.

[Kev On Stage]

Here.

[Ed Helms]

Listen to earsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club on the iHeartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Weezy]

While we're in celebrities. I consider this person to be a celebrity. Kev on stage. Mandy and I actually both fucking chose this in our top episodes because bitch, he's Archie. Who would have thought? He's so much fun. Do you know, every time I'm in a random meeting of like, it could be an audible meeting, it could be I was, I'm producing another Kevin.

[Mandy B.]

He's on fuse and tubi now. He taking over everything.

[Weezy]

Like, he can't stop. And it's funny because this one lady was like, oh, he would. He's gonna be my first guest on my podcast. I was like, okay, cool. Everyone loves Kev. And she's like, yeah. But then I thought, he's too oversaturated. And I was like, you know what? Nobody is sick of Kevin.

[Mandy B.]

There's no such thing.

[Weezy]

He told us the story when he shit himself. He talked about running outside. He talked about his titties. He talked about him and his wife and how they drank together for the first time. I love that story. When they laid back to see what it was gonna do to them.

[Mandy B.]

Like, I also want to congratulate him on air. I'm not sure if we got the chance to, but he did also join us as New York Times bestsellers with.

[Weezy]

His book this year.

[Mandy B.]

So Congratulations, Kev.

[Weezy]

Enjoy. Episode 434, Marriage Tips and His shit Story My favorite story was the Doo Doo.

[Mandy B.]

And so let's get into we're going to leave out of here with shit.

[Weezy]

The way that this story is prefaced by the way he's like, I know many of you have heard this. It's one that I tell all the time. Here we go again.

[Mandy B.]

That's how I felt writing the book. Literally I didn't want to put that I pegged niggas in the book. But literally it was like, hey, booty little stuff. You have to have a chapter about pegging. You got to mind you, it was just going to be about anal sex. My first anal orgasm. And then I was like, fuck, ok. It's what the audience wants.

[Kev On Stage]

Well, got it.

[Mandy B.]

So I had to fucking add the pegging in there. So it was a whole period now. So doo doo.

[Weezy]

There was this other shit, by the way.

[Mandy B.]

I want to hear doo doo story by the way.

[Weezy]

Like check out the manifestation plan. That was great.

[Mandy B.]

Period.

[Weezy]

And the freaknik black women thicken in racial tension.

[Mandy B.]

Great.

[Weezy]

But let's end on shit.

[Mandy B.]

Let's end on doo doo. And then we normally like to ask too how much it would take for you to be shitted on. But we'll save that for the end. Everyone has a number.

[Weezy]

We ask it almost every 10 episodes.

[Kev On Stage]

Hilarious.

[D]

In eight years.

[Weezy]

It just keeps coming back up.

[Kev On Stage]

This short version of the story is that like many things in my life, had I listened to Melissa, this would not have happened. Okay, so we were in college and at this time I had an apartment in Tacoma. She. She lived with her parents and. But we went to school in Seattle. So every Friday we would ride the bus together to the Tacoma Dome station. And I would take her to her parents house for the weekend, drive her back on Sunday in her dorm. She didn't have like a full size refrigerator. She had a. She had like a gallon of Dreyers Rocky road ice cream. And she had bought it the night before. She was like, I was in a rocky road mood. You know, I had some ice cream. She like ate some of it then just couldn't fit in. Her refrigerator didn't have a freezer part, so she just left it on the thing. She's like, I'll throw it away when I leave the next day. Hadn't thrown it away yet. We're leaving. So I get to her dorm to, you know, walk with her to ride the bus. I'm like, oh snap, I love rocky road and I'm gonna have some. And she was like, oh no, Kev, that's been sitting out online. I was just gonna throw that away when we left, like, don't eat that. And I was like, why? She was like, it's been sitting out all night. Like it's gonna mess your stomach.

[Weezy]

Up.

[Kev On Stage]

And for whatever reason, I took that as a challenge.

[Weezy]

Wait, this wasn't about milk.

[Mandy B.]

I thought you were lactose. Ice cream is lactose.

[Kev On Stage]

I mean.

[Weezy]

No, no. But reading it, I'm thinking, oh, he's lactose.

[Mandy B.]

No. Well, he's black.

[Kev On Stage]

I think we're all.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, we're all lactose.

[Kev On Stage]

It's a black thing. I think it's like.

[Mandy B.]

No, it's.

[Weezy]

Cause it was sitting out.

[Mandy B.]

No, but also, every black person is lactose intolerant. Yes, it's a thing. I've heard.

[Kev On Stage]

It's actually. We're allergic to dairy.

[Weezy]

We are, but it's not.

[Mandy B.]

We shouldn't be fucking drinking it.

[Kev On Stage]

We shouldn't.

[Mandy B.]

And then what's crazy is I just found out, too. Almond and oat milk, not healthy. We shouldn't be drinking nut milk either. What are you, the algorithm? The algorithm said nothing's right. I said, no. They said almond milk was done. Subway tank.

[Weezy]

About too much water.

[Mandy B.]

They said, oat milk is bad.

[Kev On Stage]

I've seen that. Too much water is bad for you.

[Weezy]

Wait, who said that? That's on subway tanks.

[Kev On Stage]

Yeah.

[D]

Back to the shit.

[Kev On Stage]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

But now this makes sense.

[Kev On Stage]

Ice cream. We owe shit after ice cream 1000%. But if you eat warm ice cream, it'll happen faster.

[Mandy B.]

You wanting to eat warm ice cream.

[Kev On Stage]

I just really. Once I saw it, I was like, you ate it?

[Weezy]

I ate before a bus.

[Kev On Stage]

Before a bus. And she was like, why? To prove to her that my stomach was made of steel. Because for whatever reason, when she told me not to eat it, I took it as a challenge. She was like, kevin, it's gonna mess your stomach up. And I was like, you don't know my stomach. I can eat this.

[Mandy B.]

And she was like, I do that with leftovers. I love. Like, depending on how many days it's been, there be like, I'll be fine.

[Kev On Stage]

1,000.

[Mandy B.]

They're gonna kill me. I do that. Well, that's how you felt? Okay.

[Weezy]

How many minutes from the consumption to the bus?

[Kev On Stage]

Oh, man. It was probably. I mean, we were getting ready to leave, so it was probably no more than 12 minutes.

[Weezy]

How many minutes were you on the bus?

[Kev On Stage]

It was like an hour and 10 minutes. And I lasted an hour and five minutes on the bus on myself on the bus. I was almost there.

[Mandy B.]

Did this thing like, you shitty.

[Weezy]

Can you walk us through one of the best lines I've ever read in a book? I don't know if I'm saying it right, because I looked down at my backpack and thought about the journals in there.

[Kev On Stage]

And how much stuff I was going to do with my backpack. But it was like a $40 backpack. It was a little JanSport. I don't have $40. Again, like, if I do it in this backpack, I just don't have no backpack no more. So I'm not doodling in my backpack.

[Mandy B.]

But wait, no, you would have had. People would have saw me, and people.

[Kev On Stage]

Would have saw me, but more than people see me. I love that backpack.

[Weezy]

But did it start from a fart?

[Kev On Stage]

No. So what happened was, like, I was fighting for my life for an hour. Like, we get in the thing, and Melissa went to sleep. She's like, all right, goes to sleep. We start off with no traffic, and this is how I'm like, just for, like, 30 minutes, I've been. And then I get real hot. I start sweating and stuff, and I just can never get comfortable. And I'm like this, you know, like, breathing hard and stuff. And the thing is about the human body, which I don't understand to this day.

[Mandy B.]

You don't understand the human body.

[Kev On Stage]

You get close to the bathroom, your mind thinks you're at the bathroom.

[Mandy B.]

It's terrible.

[Kev On Stage]

Worst thing ever happened is we get off the freeway to get to the bus station. There's three red lights left. I'm like, if I could just make it through these three, I'm going to destroy the bathroom at the Komodo station, which is already disgusting because it's like a stainless steel toilet. It's like a jail toilet. But I got to do what I got to do. So I'm there, and I'm like, you know your sphincter. It wasn't sphincting. Like, I remember. Like, I have. I'm exposing my booty hole as much as I can. Little farts are escaping. And every time a little air come out, doo doo would come a little closer. So that's.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, you're making me squeeze my booty hole right now.

[Kev On Stage]

Squeeze. I'm doing butt kegels. And I'm holding it. And then I remember, like, a little fart came out, and then I couldn't close. Like, it didn't go. It didn't go all the way back no more. And I'm like, oh, hold on, hold on, hold up. And then it just, like, start, like, rumbling. And I'm trying to close, and it's not closing. And then it was just like, oh, no, no. Oh, no, no, no. Dude, it's coming out. Dudu's coming. Dude is coming out. Doodoo's coming out. Dudu's coming out. And then it just, like, opened liquid and then just. It was opening, and then my butt was open. And then the doodoo was coming out. And I was just. I kind of. At one point, I just kind of resigned myself, and I was just like, I could not hold it anymore. I literally.

[Mandy B.]

That's the type of doo doo, though, that you gotta wait a lot. Like, there's no money. I said it had to be solid. If I got shitted on. That's the type of doo doo that I could. Cause I know that was rocky road. It was just literally, the rocky road melted.

[Weezy]

What the fuck is Alyssa doing?

[Kev On Stage]

She. By that. She asleep almost the whole duration. But when I. When. When it was happening, she. She mysteriously woke up, and she looked at me, and I was just like.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, she loves you.

[Kev On Stage]

Oh, she does.

[Mandy B.]

She loves you.

[Kev On Stage]

It was like.

[Mandy B.]

Because you started shat, shitted all the.

[Kev On Stage]

Things, and it was like, the full thing.

[Mandy B.]

How did you stitch?

[Kev On Stage]

So I had windbreakers on that were tapered at the bottom, blue windbreakers on. And those were my pants. When I stood up, it, like. And it clumped down, and it got. Doodoo was stuck at my ankles. And the windbreakers really kept the doo doo there. So I, like, doodle on my socks and on my ankle. So I had to, like, walk to the bathroom with doodle ankles.

[Mandy B.]

That is disgusting, Kev. That is disgusting.

[Kev On Stage]

True story. I threw my drawers away. I, like, got the doodle out in the, like, trash.

[Mandy B.]

You tried to put them windbreakers back on.

[Kev On Stage]

I had to go home.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, you didn't.

[Kev On Stage]

I had to still go home. This is at the bus station.

[Mandy B.]

There was nothing.

[Kev On Stage]

I'm still in the bus.

[Mandy B.]

Your wife didn't ask anybody if they had an extra pair of pants. Who carries extra pants?

[Kev On Stage]

Who just.

[Mandy B.]

If you're on a bus, don't people got luggage?

[Weezy]

No, this is.

[Mandy B.]

You had a backpack.

[Kev On Stage]

No, this is, like, people just coming home to work. This is just a bus. You go to work in Seattle. You come home from work.

[Mandy B.]

We went to chocolate Sundays last night.

[Weezy]

And I'm thinking, I'm sure you've told this story.

[Kev On Stage]

Oh, this was my closer for many years.

[Mandy B.]

On stage, that is bruh.

[Weezy]

Like, the chocolate sundae also is making me laugh.

[Kev On Stage]

So I, like, had doo doo everywhere.

[Mandy B.]

You had rocky road down your leg.

[Kev On Stage]

Down my leg. And I had to go to my apartment. Before I took her home, I had to go to my apartment, take a shower, threw all those clothes away, obviously. And she never, like. She just was like, hmm.

[Weezy]

Well.

[Kev On Stage]

She should have listened. She never even had to say it. She just had an air about her that was like, wow.

[Mandy B.]

All righty. And my last pick for the decisions, decisions episode of Choice comes from. Damn it is, I guess, a celebrity. She's an actor that you guys may be familiar with from the Hulu Peacock. I don't know what fucking streaming channel, but she was on Harlem. And Jerry Johnson is my pick for the next. My favorite pick of the year. It's the contract to my polyamory, and I chose this. And it would have been Tahir, but Tahir's episode just dropped. What I really want us to do more in 2026 is get more lifestyle people on, more couples to talk about their dynamics of how they navigate their relationships. She's a married woman who came into most of her relationships with a polyamory contract, and she's really. It was just really dope. I also really love her sharing how her mama was a hoe because, boy, as Weezy says, it is hereditary. Hereditary. Want y' all to check out a clip from my favorite episode, episode 425, the contract to my polyamory featuring Jerry Johnson. So after therapy and being together, what was the. Aha. I gotta put a ring on it.

[Jerry Johnson]

I actually put a ring on it before we were going to therapy, but I did shrooms in Tulum, and I.

[Weezy]

Was on all of our shrooms.

[Mandy B.]

Shrooms in Tulum.

[Jerry Johnson]

I was, like, walking down the beach.

[Kal Penn]

That's.

[Weezy]

Did you even have the ring? No.

[D]

Oh.

[Jerry Johnson]

Oh, we did. We found this ring upstairs at this vintage shop, and we bought this ring, but it wasn't like. It was like, in case it happens. Like, this is the. We didn't want to pass up on the opportunity of getting this ring. It was a beautiful ring, and we both loved it. It fit on her finger personally.

[Kal Penn]

What?

[Weezy]

Yeah. This ring. You didn't buy it at a vintage shop in Tulum? Cause I ain't never seen one. No, you bought it in New York. Upstate. Ok. You buy this ring at a.

[Jerry Johnson]

Vintage shop that fits on her ring finger perfectly.

[Weezy]

Just in case we get married. Who holds it?

[Jerry Johnson]

Not just in case we get.

[Mandy B.]

We didn't even talk about it. Like, we just kind of like, she.

[Jerry Johnson]

Tried the ring on her ring finger, and then I bought it, and then.

[Mandy B.]

I had it, like, talk about it.

[Jerry Johnson]

Which was interesting because we talk about everything.

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Jerry Johnson]

And then I would do this funny thing when she would say something smart. I mean, we. We get. We just do stuff with each other, but when she would say something smart or Something. I would do this because the ring was in this pocket. You better watch out, girl. And she was just crack up.

[Weezy]

That's what this. This little energy is what makes me feel like, you know, my man and I have been dating two years and we just talk very deeply about exactly what we want. Marriage planning, whatever. So I feel like when women get to that stage, sometimes you're like, ooh, when? Right. Sometimes I be doing shit where I be fucking up. Like, let's just say my birth control made me act crazy. He be looking at me like.

[Kev On Stage]

And.

[Weezy]

You think, I can't go back out, baby. We were right on the line, huh?

[Mandy B.]

And it's scary because when you are.

[Weezy]

In these moments, you just made me think something about therapy. We were having a conversation the other day where he was like, sometimes I wish you could hear yourself from someone else's point of view.

[Jerry Johnson]

Because we don't see it with our partner. When our partner says it, it's like, absolutely not.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no.

[Jerry Johnson]

And it's like, no, you need somebody else to hear you and let them tell you, because you're not gonna hear it from me. And it's also like, with all of our endorphins and the love thing, and it's like, I wanna have a love thing. I wanna seem perfect to you. So when you say. When you give me these notes or this feedback that I can't see, it's hard to contend with from your partner. Right. It's hard to be seen in that way. And so it is nice to be witness.

[Weezy]

Were most of your arguments surrounding open relationship things?

[Jerry Johnson]

Um, no. We had a few of the.

[Mandy B.]

No, it just.

[Jerry Johnson]

We had a. There was a. It was a sticky situation, um, because she felt like. Like, I get why you're ethically non monogamous. It makes sense on paper and it makes sense why I could be. I just am contending with, like, am I or not?

[Mandy B.]

Did you give her.

[Jerry Johnson]

I gave her my worksheet. My ethical non monogamy framework worksheet.

[Mandy B.]

No, this is what we're. This is why. Hey, y'.

[Kev On Stage]

All.

[Mandy B.]

She has it in a Google Doc.

[Jerry Johnson]

I do.

[Mandy B.]

In the Google Drive on her phone. Yes, I would love. Could you pull up. Yes. The ethical non monogamy contract.

[Jerry Johnson]

Yes.

[Mandy B.]

And if we could go through the points. And mind you real quick, this is something that when you meet a partner, you give to them on the first date.

[Jerry Johnson]

Well, when it's getting. When it's getting there. Because what I found was I was going on dates with women who had so many preconceived notions about polyamory that I was saying the same thing on a cycle. I'm like, why am I keep, like, proving this? Or, like, I'm, like, handing out the facts or something. So when you got questions about it, if you say, well, I think people who are poly are this. And I think that. Here goes my ethical non monogamy framework worksheet. Here is why I am poly. This is my Virgo moon and Virgo rising. Here's why I am poly. If you can get down with this, we can do this. But you know the baseline of what you're coming into, so there's no assumptions or preconceived notions or any of that.

[Weezy]

September, Virgo. What day?

[Jerry Johnson]

No, I'm not a Virgo. I'm a Virgo moon in rising.

[Weezy]

Oh.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, my God.

[Weezy]

That's right. Aquarius.

[Mandy B.]

Y' all already got cause, bitch. I need to know. Okay, so what is your framework? What does it read on that document?

[Jerry Johnson]

So it says why? It says, jerry's cnm ENM Poly framework. It says, as an intellectual processor, it's helpful for me to write things out to process, understand, and express my ideas and feelings. The first one.

[J]

Why?

[Jerry Johnson]

Firstly, I like to start by saying that I am polyamorous by orientation, meaning that it is directly correlated with who I am and how I move through the world. It is also connected to my need to decolonize my body, thoughts, and ways of being. For me, ethical, non monogamy or polyamory is directly dismantling the patriarchy. Queerness and white supremacy are direct opposites in how they function in my life. This supports my desire for expansion in this lifetime. Having multiple, intimate, romantic, and loving relationships helps me to sharpen my communication skills, learn and address where my blind spots are, and pushes my capacity for compassion, empathy, and love. Love in many forms is the perfect definition for me. Love is abundant in my life and in conjunction in conversation with the universe. My being non monogamous is a continuing conversation with myself. How I spread love in intimate relationships and the freedom that comes without the confines of Western ideals of monogamy and heteronormativity. Also, the word intimate is multifaceted because it is not limited to sex. It is, I think, sex is just a minuscule part of intimacy. And because people limit intimacy to those that are sexually involved with it, stunts the expansion of how we can connect and express ourselves as humans. I just want to feel free in my expression of love outside of any binary, including the ones we've learned, because all this is what we learned about how we should exist in relationships. I also know that how I show up in the world in all of my identities with that elevated expression of love is a radical act. It is what I call liberation.

[Weezy]

Honey, if that wasn't a theater kid.

[Mandy B.]

Right there, I ain't gonna hold you, Ed. And I'm gonna need the transcript for this episode so I can copy and paste. Gonna need that from you. So have you ever given this worksheet to someone and they've been like, oh, yeah, this isn't for me? No.

[Jerry Johnson]

People wanna be with me.

[Ed Helms]

Hey, everyone, Ed Helms here.

[Mandy B.]

And hi, I'm Kal Penn and we're.

[Kev On Stage]

The hosts of Irsay The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

[Podcast Announcer]

You know what? I can see you as Mr. Darcy.

[Kal Penn]

You got a little Colin Firth.

[Ed Helms]

Okay, that's really sweet. I appreciate that. But are you sure I'm not the dad? I mean, I'm not Mr. Bennet here. Listen to Irsay the Audible and I heart Audience Book Club on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Weezy]

My final episode Pick from Decisions Decision is actually one that I feel like people may forgot about, but she was really dropping some tea. It was Matchmaker Maria. She also had a book that had came out which is why she came on. Her episode is 4:23 but I was kind of feeling it because I feel like she was giving some antiquated shit. That low key be working. She gave this one tip about like make him come upstairs and fix something. And I was like yes bitch, bring the builders back. But also speaking of builders, she talked about personality type and how basically when matchmakers, some matchmakers are like literally giving you a rundown not just based on compatibility of like I like to, you know, I don't know, go shopping, you like to shop, we like to travel, whatever. More so like how your brain works. And I thought that was really cool because I think it gives us all a chance to like self diagnose. Is the person I'm with compatible personality wise?

[Mandy B.]

I don't even think I realized that. I took her advice this year so I know I got a friend who be getting me all them gifts and so.

[Weezy]

Oh right.

[Mandy B.]

Five of my niggas helped me build them and put them together. So my one boyfriend, Tree, he helped put together my treadmill and then quarter zip helped me put together my coffee maker. And the nigga who buys me the gifts every time he comes over, I make him take out all of my boxes or my trash or pick up my heavy boxes for me. So this is something I do.

[Weezy]

The nigga that buys you the gifts, he don't have to put them together but that nigga better.

[Mandy B.]

Well if you hang around to put them together then he be getting mad when he comes and the shit not set up. So now I didn't have people help me set it up.

[Weezy]

I do like watching rich niggas get to work.

[Mandy B.]

I love it.

[Weezy]

Oh yeah, my homegirl is fucking with some rapper. He's. He's on all of our phones and he ain't shit. And he got a bunch of kids. But she was like, girl, he be coming over and he buys her, like, really lavish gifts, and she be like, oh, when you leave, can you go do this? Put this in my car and can you go take my trash and can you do this? She said that he, like, makes jokes about, like, I'll pay somebody to do it for you.

[Mandy B.]

She no, bro, these are acts of service.

[Weezy]

Go do it.

[Mandy B.]

Always have something for a nigga to put together when he come over. Let me tell you. Okay.

[Weezy]

Check out matchmaker Maria episode 423 and see ya.

[Kal Penn]

So I just want to say that it's not that you're creative, it's that you're entrepreneurial. And I think that entrepreneurs tend to make really poor matches with other entrepreneurs because you have a baby. This is your baby. Your podcast is your baby. Your studio is a baby. That's your baby. And if you're an entrepreneur, your baby takes precedence over his baby. So if you're. And I'm. I'm so sorry. I don't know what your partners do, so I'm not trying to, like, offend you or give you a midlife crisis.

[Weezy]

I'm a real estate investor. Entrepreneurship. Real estate investment. I know, in a way. But I was wondering recently, is my relationship working so well because of the flexibility with time and the schedules? This man I dated someone with a 9 to 5, even though great money, now I have health insurance, jump all over the world with me because his money's made on his phone through his tenants, whatever. Like, maybe this is really a better fit and maybe I should have been looking for people that didn't have such a demanding schedule, because I do.

[Kal Penn]

I can't answer that question because I haven't temperamentally typed you yet.

[D]

I don't.

[Kal Penn]

I would have to, like, be in the mode to, like, personality type you. I have a feeling you're an explorer, though, just based on the little that I know you. The fact that you just told me you didn't finish college, and I write about this in my book. It's in chapter two. But you seem to me like an explorer, and that means that your match is also someone who's an explorer who jumps with you. You seem like a builder, which is fun. If you are, that's a person who believes in, like, you can still be someone who likes to have fun. My sister's a builder. But, like, you like a certain Order of things. You like a certain process of things.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[Kal Penn]

You like it when there's, like, a hierarchy or some sort of precedent and tradition to go on. I have a feeling. And I. I don't. I only just met you today.

[Weezy]

Come on. Psychic Maria.

[Kal Penn]

But I have a feeling that I bet you two fight and knock heads.

[Weezy]

On. On.

[Kal Penn]

Let me.

[Weezy]

No, no, no.

[Kal Penn]

I'll tell you on what.

[Weezy]

Shut up. Welcome to the party, babe.

[Kal Penn]

Hold on. No, no, no, hold on. You can still be friends. Builder, Computers, explorers. Don't get me wrong. I can tell you what you fight on. Because if I am correct, if you are an explorer and you're telling me about who you're dating, that totally makes sense that you would both be like this. I have only spoken to mandy for literally 30 seconds before we started recording. And I was like, okay, he seems like a builder. So, like, watch your words. Talk in precedence. Don't. Don't surprise her. Like, this is what I do, right? I have to read personalities for a living. So the kind of fights that a builder explore, friendship, or relationship would have is you have a certain order of how you like to do things. And she's constantly wiping the lines away of that. Let's be free. You are constantly thinking from your gut.

[Weezy]

I love freedom.

[Kal Penn]

Whereas you. Exactly. You. You excel in freedom. You have a lot more vitality. You are always going to seem younger than Mandy because of that vitality. You are more traditional. And I'm not saying sexually, because you're.

[Weezy]

Attesting freedom to carefree, childlike.

[Kal Penn]

She is Queen Elizabeth II and you are Princess Diana. Okay, like, do you understand what the difference is here?

[Weezy]

No, no, no. I. I definitely appreciate what you're saying, because I had.

[Kal Penn]

No. And this is not a bad thing.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no, no.

[Kal Penn]

Even. Even my sister's a builder, so, like I said.

[Mandy B.]

But even hearing what is making sense here for her and her partner, like.

[Kal Penn]

That'S gonna make sense for. You need to build her.

[Mandy B.]

I just dated someone who was retired, and as soon as life picked back up for me, him doing nothing and being mad that I was busy was like, oh, get out of retirement.

[Weezy]

But doing nothing was different than no.

[Mandy B.]

The freedom. I didn't need someone.

[Kal Penn]

Your match is a guy who has a nine to five.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, no insurance. Well, I have someone who's really busy right now. He's an actor. But, like, I'm so happy. He's about to be on set, like, all summer. Okay. So I'm like, oh, nigga, I'm busy. You busy? This is great. Like I don't, like I didn't want my partner to be able to just be everywhere with me all the time because that's not what I want in partnership. And I remember it's so crazy because me and my ex actually got into an argument because in me waiting for the world to open up, at the time I was looking to invest in an 18 wheeler truck. My best friend ended up doing it and immediately I went to telling him, great, you could be the driver. And I immediately went to try to hire him to get him a job. And when I ended up opening my studio instead and didn't go that route, we ended up having an argument because he was like, I feel like you just want me to work for you or do this. And I was like, I want you to do something. You being retired wasn't fulfilling for me to be with someone who could just do and be there whenever I needed.

[Kal Penn]

You want someone who's school oriented and.

[Mandy B.]

I thought I wanted that at one point because I did want someone there when I said be there. But then it did start to be like.

[Weezy]

I don't know if these personality types necessarily match goals though, because I'm gonna be honest, I could be the furthest from a builder. Being rich in life to me is time.

[Kal Penn]

Like, this is explorer speak.

[Weezy]

I want money and my time. I hustle hard as I'm telling you.

[Kal Penn]

Right now, types too. I think you're a builder director and I think you're an explorer negotiator, which is like wild because that is what is keeping your. This is what's keeping your friendship. Is your director and your negotiator or is what's keeping you guys glued together and that's like a good thing. And I think, I think, you know, look, the point of personality typing is not like, okay, you're not a match. It's about you can, if you're a builder, you can date and explore, but you have to. To set that expectation early on, communicate constantly. Here is what makes me feel less anxious. Here is what makes me feel confused.

[Weezy]

Yes, I really appreciate you bringing it up.

[Kal Penn]

I think that's, it's so, so much of what makes a relationship a poor relationship is because we are not communicating enough what we expect from other people, but also being self aware. If this expectation is like, also what.

[Weezy]

Are some of the other balance we may not know. So Mandy's a builder, I'm an explorer.

[Kal Penn]

Four types. Okay, so this is actually from a past mentor of mine, Dr. Helen Fisher. Unfortunately, she passed away about six months ago.

[Weezy]

Oh, wow.

[Kal Penn]

Before reading my book. Damn it. But I talk about her in chapter two. She came up with the Helen Fisher inventory system, which it resembles a lot of what my grandmother's personality typing system was. She used the Greek gods, right? Zeus, Artemis, Athena, Era, and what an Aphrodite. And so there's four types.

[Mandy B.]

There's director.

[Kal Penn]

She's Aphrodite. You are the queen. You're Era. You are the queen of the gods.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, that's me. Queen Era. Yeah.

[Weezy]

All right. Now has come the time for the horrors. We sing.

[Mandy B.]

If you guys miss me singing like that, I still give it. Give it up.

[Weezy]

And we know you guys get your little clip at the end of the episodes. But if you want the real tea, it is on Patreon. Just $5 a month. You can get the audio and even YGDS. We do every Wednesday. That's also available on Patreon. The full video and all of that. You wanna go first? Give us your.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, I can go first.

[Jerry Johnson]

I could go first.

[Weezy]

Favorite Patreon episode of the year.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. Now, this one does have two parts, so it's keto tales, part one. It's episode 283. Part two was episode 284. By the way, do you bitches hear that? If you didn't know, there's almost 300 bonus episodes over on the Patreon.

[Weezy]

Okay, thank you so much, bruh.

[Mandy B.]

That's great.

[Weezy]

We recorded 700 episodes.

[Mandy B.]

We have 7, 800 episodes recorded. It's insane. Mind you, that doesn't even include the town halls. The town halls don't get numbered.

[Weezy]

My teeth have changed. My hair has changed. My personality, my body has changed.

[Mandy B.]

Y' all should see these pictures. I should post them and let y' all see the growth. I was gonna had to ask your permission first because I was going to do this video like you. You see how Azar has been posting her before and afters? So I was going to post some of us, but boy, who I got to get your permission first because we look rough, bitch.

[Weezy]

Nigga, my sewing. My sewing was fucked up, yo. My nigga said you look like them biracials. They really can't figure it out. That's all your old sticks. You look like them girls who needed help and a hot comb.

[Mandy B.]

But anyways, so my episode is 283. By the way, I am going to be@hEdonism2 Again, Labor Day weekend in 2026. If you haven't yet, join, join me. Join. You know, the festivities, the nakedness, the raunchiness the fun at Bit ly Chocobliss. That'll be in the description. Make sure you put that. Mandy B. Told you about it. Pussa ho. Anyways, the clip for this is not actually anything from Heedo. Well, it is, I guess. It was one of the classes that Kasha did, and I wanted to make sure we inserted it here so y' all see what you're missing? That she gave us a Deep Throat tip that made us realize this is why we started this goddamn podcast. Anyways, here's the clip from episode 283, Hito Tales, part one. So Kasha has an oral class, and mind you, me and Krystal really liked your energy. We ain't going to no class. So me and Crystal was like, we going to support Kasha for her class.

[Jerry Johnson]

I appreciate y'.

[Mandy B.]

All. So we go to our class and we both are like, bitch, we not a suck dick. So, I mean, this will be just us supporting. No, I felt like I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. So I would love to talk about what I heard during this class, and then I would love for you to demo what you were so that you guys get to see it. So I will briefly talk about what this class was. Mind you, to give you context. It started at 12:30. Yeah, this is 12:30pm in the afternoon. In the afternoon.

[Weezy]

This is.

[Mandy B.]

One second.

[Weezy]

That's a good flash hunt.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah, the class. Yeah, it was.

[Weezy]

Oh, yeah, no, it started 11:30, but.

[Mandy B.]

We left it already. But went to, like, one. Oh, yeah.

[Weezy]

Was they sucking real dicks?

[Mandy B.]

I'm about to tell you what I saw. And she going down, though. No, no, it was. It was crazy. So I walk into this class, and when I first get in, she has a diagram of the vagina up on a screen. So I was like, oh, this is.

[Jerry Johnson]

Like a real class.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, cool. And so next thing I know, she sits in the chair and she's like, yeah, so you have this happening. You have this happening down here. She takes the same pillow, which all are about to see demo, and she's like, you have to just know that you're not gonna choke and die. And she puts this whole. She, like, pops the fuck out of her mouth with it. And I was like, what the fuck is happening? So I'm like, okay, yeah, I don't think I could do that. So let me listen. Now she goes into another segment where she's like. Just so you know, your throat is connected to.

[Jerry Johnson]

No, you can't sit back.

[Mandy B.]

No, no, we won't tell y' all what I saw. At 12:30 in the afternoon. She takes the dildo and she's like. Just so you know, not sure if you know how anatomy works, but your throat is connected to your pussy. And you can not only come by sucking dick, you can squirt because your is connected to your vagina.

[Weezy]

Demonstrates before demonstrative.

[Mandy B.]

I love her dough.

[D]

She's both.

[Mandy B.]

This is literally. And I'm like. So I'm listening to her and I'm like, my throat ain't connected to my. But I do get turned on. But I thought it was, like, a psychological thing. She has a dress on, y'. All. No lie, mind you. There's a good 40 people.

[Weezy]

Yeah.

[Mandy B.]

Then I feel like 40 people are watching this class.

[Weezy]

40.

[Mandy B.]

This takes place on the piano bar, mind you. So next thing you know, mind you, she's just in the front, diaphragm up. She's like, yeah, go. Connected to your pussy. At this point, I'm like, not believing her. So she sits on the chair and she's like, yeah, ladies, you can squirt my sucking dick. And the next thing I know, she's. And I'm like, oh, this is why my can always fuck other bitches, because.

[Podcast Announcer]

I hate doing it.

[Weezy]

I hate sucking dick. I hate it. I dislike it. I don't know what that's saying.

[D]

I dislike it.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, but, bruh, when it hits the back of my throat, it's like a puddle that comes out every single time. Mine had to be different. I'm jealous.

[Weezy]

I think mine different, too.

[Mandy B.]

Well, you know what it is?

[Jerry Johnson]

It's like this, right? A lot of people don't believe shit, but, like, I've been doing this for a long time now, right? And I be experimenting with shit. So you learn stuff in school when you're becoming, you know. I'm board certified as a clinical sexologist.

[Mandy B.]

Cool.

[Jerry Johnson]

But some shit just requires application. So for me, I told them I was like. I went to the dentist one time, and they were trying to, like, get.

[Weezy]

Like, the mirror in the back of my throat.

[Jerry Johnson]

And, like, every time he kept doing it.

[Mandy B.]

I remember this is years ago.

[Jerry Johnson]

Well, before my throat was.

[Mandy B.]

Before it grew up.

[Weezy]

So I'm like.

[Jerry Johnson]

As it gets there, I feel like anybody you put a thing right there, you know, you're.

[Mandy B.]

So he goes, I want you to.

[Jerry Johnson]

Press this nerve ending in your hand.

[Mandy B.]

Yes.

[Jerry Johnson]

And so I would tell people, like, there's a nerve ending in your hand.

[Weezy]

And I'm like, hold it up.

[Jerry Johnson]

Do this.

[Mandy B.]

Fight the power Ditch. And when you're fighting the power, you're gonna gain some.

[Weezy]

So I was like.

[Jerry Johnson]

And just by doing that, you'll open up your throat. And that's when I shoved the dildo the first time. Right? But then that's when I was like, okay, now there's a connection. Think about it. Right now, if you go.

[Mandy B.]

If you try it, try it. You feel your pussy.

[Weezy]

I felt a little key, little push.

[Mandy B.]

Like, right?

[Jerry Johnson]

So just by going, your pussy does a jump. So if you could learn to control.

[Mandy B.]

Your throat, you can actually control your pussy.

[Jerry Johnson]

So when I say it, nobody believes me.

[Mandy B.]

I didn't believe you. I wouldn't have believed you had I not saw that. I was like.

[Jerry Johnson]

I'm like, you can train it to come on command. Because, see, like, I'm in a BDSM life, so I like the practice of holding it.

[Mandy B.]

You over there, like, please don't come.

[Weezy]

When I throw up.

[Mandy B.]

No, that's.

[Weezy]

No.

[Jerry Johnson]

No. But have you ever noticed sometimes. Have you ever had experience where you feel like you might pee when you're throwing up?

[Weezy]

Yes.

[Mandy B.]

Like, if you're.

[Jerry Johnson]

And you're like.

[Mandy B.]

Got you.

[Jerry Johnson]

So if your bladder's full with urine, that's what you're gonna push out. But I always tell people, before you have sex, before you do anything, clear your bladder.

[Weezy]

Because it takes, like, eight hours for.

[Jerry Johnson]

Your bladder to fill up again.

[Weezy]

And so you can eliminate that bul.

[Jerry Johnson]

Process of thinking that, oh, it's gonna be pee. It's gonna be pee. It can be mixed with urine if you don't clear your bladder. But if you clear your bladder, baby, that's vaginal fluids and secretions and all kind of beautiful things.

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[Jerry Johnson]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Jerry Johnson]

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[Weezy]

Even in cold butter.

[Jerry Johnson]

Yep.

[Podcast Announcer]

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[D]

Sure thing.

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[Jerry Johnson]

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[Weezy]

It'S gotta be Tide.

[Mandy B.]

Hey, audiobook lovers. This week on the podcast I'm sitting down with Musician, producer and Walking and Cyclone Questlove.

[Kev On Stage]

We're talking about Mark Ronson's memoir, Night.

[Mandy B.]

How to be a DJ in 90s New York City. All right, like we talked about before, Mark Ronson found sanctuary in the DJ booth. What's a tool or piece of equipment in the studio or on stage that gives you the most control?

[Kev On Stage]

So I have two microphones on stage. We have the microphone that you hear as the audience. Then we have a second microphone in which we communicate.

[J]

Communicate with each other.

[Kev On Stage]

I feel like that second microphone kind of saved all of our friendships. No, no band likes each other after 20 years or 25 years. Like the Beatles broke up in seven and a half years and we're going on 35. Listen to HearSay, the Audible and iHeart audiobook club on the iHeartradio app or.

[Mandy B.]

Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

Season two of Unrivaled Basketball is here and the talent is unreal. Paige Beckers, Nafiza Collier, Kelsey Plumb, Brianna Stewart and more are back to redefine the game. Unrivaled basketball season two, sponsored by Samsung Galaxy, tips off January 5th on TNT, TruTV and HBO.

[Ed Helms]

Max your ticket to big savings is that big blue envelope in your mailbox. Valpak. It's primming with TNT from big name brands and your favorite local spots, dining services, stuff you're already buying all for less and you could score $100 or other instant prizes just for opening it. Or save even faster with mobile coupons you can use right [e-mail] Valpak there's definitely something in it for you.

[Commercial Voice]

Bring incredible sound into every corner of your home this holiday with the new Wimsound smart speaker. Get high resolution audio with a 1.8-inch touchscreen, smart control and modern design in one powerful speaker for just $299. From quiet mornings to lively holiday gatherings, Winsound makes every moment sound better and feel better too. Get the gift of the season for the music enthusiast in your life or for yourself. Whim Sound Beautifully designed, effortlessly connected. Shop now at Amazon and search whimsound. That's wiimson.

[Weezy]

One of the last things Mandy said before we got into the clip was that the reason we started the podcast like one of the reasons we started the podcast. And that's how I felt about my pick. So episode 278 Ace of Spades Anime noises and pricing your kinks featuring a dom named Jax. Prince Sovereign Ho now what what is.

[Mandy B.]

Really by the way, the the.

[Ed Helms]

The.

[Mandy B.]

The patrons really enjoyed that episode.

[Weezy]

She need. I think we should we should just interview her again when we come to LA for another patreon.

[Mandy B.]

Like yeah, I'm down.

[Weezy]

He has so much life stories. So y' all the tea was so hot. First of all, we didn't even know when we were interviewing her that she currently was living in a shelter. Yeah I'm not saying this is the great part of her story. But what made her story so interesting is that we don't meet sex workers that don't try to get on their fucking high horse. And she was like, yo, I was in a relationship. I had to leave. I'm doing this for myself. She was kind of telling us about what it's like to be in there and about how what the other women are experiencing, but also some of the crazy kinks that some of her clients, like how much money she's gotten in the past, how it could look like today, how shit changes. It was great. She's young, really fun, and super smart. Check out a clip from episode 278.

[Mandy B.]

With chat, because this is horrible decisions. Well, let's listen. Let's get it to the sex, please. I do want to ask you, because you said what led you to drugs was trauma. Is there any connection with trauma to you becoming a sex worker? And have you made those parallels at all? There's a lot of people who assume like, that sex work is not always a choice that someone makes. And so I do want to know how you got into the line of sex work, how you feel empowered by it enough to change your name, even, like, I want to know kind of your journey into sex work and what you do and what your profession overall is.

[D]

I just wanted to be careful with how I answer this, because unfortunately, I'm gonna say this. There is a massive fucking difference between sex slave and consensual sex worker.

[Mandy B.]

Okay, Talk about it.

[D]

I have been trafficked and pimped. I have. But I've also been an independent sex worker. Sex worker, which is what I am now. As far as the trauma for it, for me, like I said, I've got plenty of predators in my family.

[Mandy B.]

Family.

[D]

And that's something that I think we do not talk about in black and poc families. Enough. Are the predators that we protect in the family.

[Mandy B.]

Yep, the creepy uncle.

[D]

The creepy uncle, the creepy uncles and everything like that, who were preaching God and everything like that. But then they'll be like, you know, as creepy as can be for me. Sex, the. The urge to do BDSM specifically was a rebellion against me being forced to do full service sex work for a good chunk of my life. And not even full service sex work, but being a sex slave, right against my will, you know, and having to explore my body young and having to kind of understand my body, like, way younger than I should have been. Like, I should have been playing with Legos. I should have been. I should not have Been playing with niggas, dicks. Like, let's be real.

[Mandy B.]

I love that you're separating too, then.

[D]

Yes.

[Mandy B.]

Having a pimp, which. Choosing that lifestyle is way different than being a BDSM performer or sex work. Like, those are two completely different, different things.

[D]

And the difference is the power dynamic in that I am. I'm. I'm always going to be Pimps down, hose up. I know that that was an old HBO special. Pits up, hoes down. I am very. I am very hosed up, Pimps down. Okay, Work for yourself, because what's the pimp doing? They're literally.

[Mandy B.]

What is the pimp doing?

[D]

You're doing all the work. You're the one at risk of getting all the STDs and everything. Like, you're the one who is risking your body, your mental health, everything like that. This is out there, you know, just collecting.

[Mandy B.]

Treating you poorly, too. It's still treating you like. Guess the gag.

[Weezy]

It's still treating you like.

[D]

So for me, it was when I decided to get into BDSM, this was probably when I was 16 or 17. And I grew up. I was young. I was young. I was a child. I'm not gonna say a child sex worker. I was a child sex slave. And the first time that I ever got into BDSM was when I was in high school with this one guy, because I went to. First I went to school in Chicago. I was born and raised in Chicago, Illinois. And then I went to school in Aurora, Illinois, which is this little northwest suburb of Illinois. So the best way I could describe it would be, like, not quite, like. Like a broke Beverly Hills. That's the best way that I could describe it for, like, something here. And there was this one white guy who was, like, completely just totally, like, all over me. And he's just like, listen, like, I'm into some things. And I'm just like.

[Kal Penn]

And that's. That.

[D]

That right there is the trigger. I'm into some things, especially from a white man.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah.

[D]

And I'm just like, okay, like, what are you into? And he's just like, listen, like, could I pay you to wear, like, some high heels and stuff on my nuts? Like, in between class? And I'm just like, in between class. He. No, we were both in high school. We were both in high school, so.

[Mandy B.]

Oh, wait. He was a high school high schooler.

[D]

He was a high schooler and knew.

[Mandy B.]

That he wanted his balls on.

[D]

I'm not even kidding. When it comes to BDSM and kink, most people know the Signs are there from a young age. Those seeds are planted.

[Mandy B.]

Holy.

[D]

Wake up and decide to do this is something that is typically a seed that has been planted, whether that is, you've been exploring, exposed to it by grooming or anything like that.

[Mandy B.]

Right.

[D]

That is because you saw something on HBO or Showtime before you were old enough to anything like that. But BDSM is absolutely one of those things that you're kind of like, you kind of know, really young. And I'm just like, let me think about it. I didn't say no because there's the thing. The fact that I didn't say no after everything that I'd been through at that point was kind of like, this is.

[Weezy]

And that's the interesting thing, too, about celebrating sex work. When you've gone through things like being trafficked or being pimped, what age does it take the turn to where you're like, I love this work because I'm in control. If you're even there.

[D]

I came to love what I do and fully committed to being a financial dominatrix and a dominatrix. I wanted to be one of the best when I had a college professor. And this is the crazy thing.

[Mandy B.]

Not everything stemming from school. Bitch.

[D]

I know.

[Mandy B.]

Yeah. High schoolers.

[D]

Listen, listen.

[Weezy]

Y' all got kids, right?

[Mandy B.]

This is why you want to go back to school. No. And don't want kids in this room.

[D]

Watch all babies. Please watch all babies. Please watch all babies. Especially if they are pretty and brown and they around some of these freaky ass white teachers. Please watch all babies. Please watch all babies.

[Mandy B.]

Wait, what the happened with the professor?

[D]

So this was. Of course he was white. Of course he was. He was my psychology professor.

[Weezy]

Like, of course he was.

[D]

Of course he was. And that's kind of why I love bdsm, because BDSM is so largely psychological sex work. I will say psychological.

[Mandy B.]

I'd say sex is. I say it all the time. Like there's the physical element of sex, but it's 90% psychological. It's so comfortable you feel how. How attracted you are. So much is about in your head when it comes to sex. Okay, get to the guy. So psychology. Psychology. Fucking professional. Let's get into it.

[D]

So I remember because this was a question that I was asked on the form to fill out this. Yeah, what was the craziest thing a sub ever said to you? And I was like, 1918 at this point. And he kept me after class because I am always. Because my mother was one of Chicago's first black professors of psychology. First Tenure. And I'm just like, so. And she was one of. She was. She marged with Dr. King. She was a civil activist, everything like that.

[Weezy]

So no wonder you're so smart. Thank you.

[D]

I'm always gonna challenge you on your. I'm just like, okay, listen, I get that this is all your data, but, like, what about all the data for, like, all the black kids? What about all the information. Black autistics? Like, what is this? And he kept me after class one day, and I thought it was gonna be to cuss me out, because I would always like to embarrass this man. Like, humidity. What's my kink? Before I even realized, you know, that that was our dynamic. And he.

[Weezy]

I'll never.

[Mandy B.]

Now. He was turned on by you humiliating him.

[D]

Look, bro, he took that stance. He took that stance where he just leaned against his desk. He had his little tab and everything like that. He's like, I like the way.

[Weezy]

How old are you at this time?

[D]

I was 19 or 18.

[Weezy]

Okay.

[D]

So still finding myself, like, still a child, like, as far as I'm concerned, especially from where I am now, that's. Baby, you're still a baby. 18, 19. I'm sorry to all the 1819 year old, y'.

[Kev On Stage]

All.

[D]

Y'. All. Y' all still in Pampers. Y' all don't know yet. But explicitly, like, he was just like, I like the way you challenge me, you know, And I like your thought process and everything. And that's how they typically start. They'll butter you up before they actually get to what the fuck they actually want from you. And then he's just like, I. You know, I wanted to know. I'd like to. I'd like to know if you'd be interested in an offer. And I'm just like, what's the offer? He's like, I love dominant black women. Like, and I'm just kind of sitting here like. He's just like, I love powerful black. I love them so much. You know, they turn me on so much. There's something very cerebral about them. That was the first time.

[Weezy]

Cerebral? I have to Google that.

[Kal Penn]

I.

[Mandy B.]

Let me be real. What does cerebral mean?

[D]

Like, I'm just like, all right, that's my first, like, introduction to it. And he's just like, listen, I wanted to know, you know, if I could get you alone on a weekend, you know, and if we could.

[Mandy B.]

He was bold as.

[D]

He was. He was bold as. Which is why I say, watch your.

[Mandy B.]

That goddamn job.

[D]

Watch your babies, bro. Watch your babies. And he's Just like, you know. You know, why don't you come to my place? You know, we'll talk and everything like that. I'm just. And I'm just like, how much are you offering? He's like, I'll give you $1,500 for an hour. And I'm just like, I'm not gonna fuck you. And I told him that, like, straight. He's like, no, no, no, I don't want you.

[Weezy]

I'm.

[D]

He's like, I don't. I don't want. I don't want to. I don't want to fuck you. I want you to fuck me. And that right there ingrained in me. From then on out, I don't get fucked. I do the fucking. I don't do any kind of penetrative sex. That right there, once I realized that that was something that I could do in bdsm, that was it. I'm just like, bend over. I don't believe in alpha males. I break them. I make them submissive and breed.

[Jerry Johnson]

I.

[D]

And my professor was one of them.

[Mandy B.]

I'm sorry.

[Weezy]

Breedable.

[D]

Submissive and breedable. Just like, oh, I am just like, I don't need you or anything like that. I am like, I don't need you. I need what you do for me or anything like that. But it's just like. But at the same exact time, here's little Tommy's, like, you know, college fund, and I'll figure out, don't tell my wife or anything like that. You know, walk me on a leash, like, you know, in public and everything like that. And for my professor, the wildest thing that he had ever said to me to really kind of help me get into his headspace, he wanted me to beat the shit out of him. He was not. Not just, like, bruising or something. He wanted me to beat the. Out of. With a flogger. A flogger. Like a. Just like. Not a cat of nine tails, like you'd see, like, Catwoman, but an actual vlogger. And this was my first time actually using a toy. And he was just, this is how you have to do it. You know, this is how you have to do it, right? And everything like that. You don't want to hit the spine. And the crazy thing was, in hindsight, it was both grooming, but it was also incredibly smart mentorship, because a lot of what he told me was accurate.

[Mandy B.]

All right, guys, again, if you want to hear more horrible decisions, make sure you join us on patreon. That's patreon.com backslash. Horrible decisions. We hope that you enjoy 2025 as much as we did. We are sorry that we did not get to meet many of you guys in person. But soon come, soon come my friend. Anyways, again have a very lovely Happy New Year's. When we get back, y' all is gonna get some solo episodes at the top of the year. You gonna hear how we spend our holidays and New Year's and you know we'll recap it. You know we gonna have all the fun. Um, by the way, if you are on Patreon and you have not checked any of your notifications for our producer tier, we have two in person events that we are holding for our top tier patrons. Again, if you have not checked your email, make sure you do. Both will take place in New York on January 5th and January 4th. So we do have a Sunday and a Monday event in person. Hopefully we get to meet you all. And again, if you want to join the producer tier, make sure you head ON over to patreon.com horribledecisions again where you get to see us.

[Weezy]

And there's very limited spots for the things that we're doing on January 4th. Therefore we're going in order of who's been a producer tier in the longest. Just to let you guys know, you may be able to get in there and get into one of these in person events with Mandy and I because a lot of them, the people that are in the producer tier may not be located in New York so they would be willing to forfeit theirs for you.

[Mandy B.]

So just make sure you keep in touch with your emails from our Patreon because we're gonna be posting and letting you guys know when the slots open up.

[Weezy]

Love you guys. Bye.

[Mandy B.]

Happy New Year.

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[Weezy]

Today, 10 athletes will face the toughest.

[D]

Job interview in fitness that will push.

[Weezy]

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[Weezy]

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[Weezy]

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[Mandy B.]

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