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Weezy
There was a leopard dress or a cheetah dress or something. And people said, do I need to have a baby, too? And everybody was on the shade room, like, keke got ass, girl.
Keke Palmer
When I say the Internet has torn me up and round inside of that, you know, I've had so many ups and we all have so many experiences with this and that. But then after that, baby body was unanimously profound. Like, everybody was like.
Mandy B
I was like, wow.
Keke Palmer
Like, guys, you really. And I really. But it's so funny to that point, it wasn't how I knew me. So there was still a moment where it's like, it's great that everybody loves this and I love that everybody's giving me life and that's cool, but I don't know that I love that. This is an I heart podcast. Guaranteed human.
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Mandy B
it's me again.
Keke Palmer
We prepped. Oh,
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Mandy B
Decisions, decisions. Hey, guys. Welcome to another episode of Decisions, Decisions. It's your girl, Mandy B.
Weezy
And it's your girl, Weezy. And if you've watched us before, you know we don't normally do these, so
Mandy B
we are so professional. We had to send out our girl
Weezy
Danisha to get index cards from the cvs. Cause we said, oh, let's get it together. But I feel like we won't have it together because this is our girl.
Keke Palmer
No, you don't need to have it together.
Mandy B
Listen, this is my girl. This is our third time with our girl. This is her coming off. Now, real quick, do you want to do the introduction? Because for anyone who's watching us for the very first time, this is our third time sitting with the legend, the Miss Keep a Job, Keke Palmer. But do we want to give. You know what type of introduction we want to give?
Weezy
Girl, I don't have a one ready.
Mandy B
She was in True Sex.
Keke Palmer
We'll take it back.
Weezy
Ok. You know what everybody's talking about on my end when it comes to you right now is Pilates.
Mandy B
Hello.
Weezy
And the verbs.
Keke Palmer
And the verbs.
Care for the Culture Host
Yes.
Keke Palmer
And the verbs. Yes. A billion minutes. Shout out to Peacock. Shout out to you.
Mandy B
And also for your. For Y' all who don't know too. The last time that we got to sit together was in Atlanta for one of them days, by the way. How amazing, like. And we got to see it before it even dropped. But how amazing to even be a part of a project that was, like, the highest grossing black women led movie at the, like, last year. You just been killing it. And I think before that, we talked about KE tv. So you've been busy, girl.
Keke Palmer
I feel like every time we get together, we both been just, like, on our mission.
Weezy
No. You know what else has been? Crazy bitch. Now you a podcaster. Can we have any job? Keke, you gotta do clothes. What food have you done? Cause I'm tired.
Keke Palmer
I do need to get into the restaurateur business. I'm here for the food.
Weezy
I'm here for the curtain.
Keke Palmer
Stilo.
Weezy
Oh, yes.
Keke Palmer
They always got a restaurant. Shout out to Linden.
Weezy
Yeah, Shout out to Linda.
Mandy B
Can I also say, I don't know if you know, your podcast name has become, like, a saying with the girls. So I was with my homeboy, literally, in New York. We're at Maison in Harlem, and literally says, baby, it's Keke Palmer. And I was like, why did. Did you know I was just about to see her?
Keke Palmer
Come on. Idiot.
Mandy B
He just said it within, like, context. So just want you to know the way you just be. I don't know that, man.
Weezy
Listen, what the. What if you had to pick, which is fucked up. Cause you don't want to. You don't want to not sell the stuff. I'm thinking, like, really? What's the one that you're just so excited about right now, where you're like, oh, I'm about to go to work. Yes.
Mandy B
Um,
Keke Palmer
when I get to be in my office.
Mandy B
Ooh, she said that? Exactly.
Keke Palmer
I got my business hat on, and I'm strategizing with my team, and I'm like, y' all look. So we got the practice by promo. We getting ready to launch. We gotta get ready to go over to the podcast, make sure we putting everything with there. Let's call up Amazon, right? And let's let them know that we. Like, I. When I'm in that bag, I'm just like, I'm the CEO of the Keke Palmer Company.
Mandy B
Where do you work? Do you work in your bed?
Keke Palmer
You know how it is. Anywhere I need to. I could be on the plane, period. I could be in the diamond, you know, Delta. Delta one had allowance.
Weezy
Hold on.
Mandy B
One diamond. Diamond medallion, girly. Thank you.
Keke Palmer
Delta one in lax, they not playing.
Weezy
You know what, though?
Keke Palmer
JFK give you a little.
Weezy
Give you that massage, though.
Keke Palmer
I need Delta to call me. We got. See, I went into it. Now I'm on CEO, and I just thought, I need to call Delta.
Weezy
Hold on, diamond, you ain't Delta.
Mandy B
Call us Delta.
Keke Palmer
Call us Delta. Call us podcast on the plane.
Mandy B
Listen, we a little louder. I ain't gonna hold you when I'm on the plane. I don't want to hear nobod.
Keke Palmer
Supposed to be private. And it's just so.
Weezy
Do you ever notice Delta One be
Mandy B
feeling like a party?
Weezy
Cause you always know the other black person there.
Keke Palmer
Oh, my gosh, yes. You'd be like, oh, I saw Kelly rolling not too long ago. Kelly. And you move on. I mean, I'm very. I get nervous. I don't know how you guys feel, but sometimes it's like, you know, hey, let me get out your way, because the moment gets weird. You don't want to put somebody.
Weezy
Well, you just went to the Oscar also wearing pants. Oh, I love that.
Keke Palmer
Oh, my gosh. You talking about. Yes. The YSL vintage structure top at the Elton John party. Cause that was something, honey, when she pulled that up. Molly. Shout out to Molly, my stylist. I said, girl, this is crazy. Are we really gonna do this? But can I give y' all the real tea of what happened?
Weezy
The duh Oscars.
Mandy B
The tea. Let's give it to her.
Keke Palmer
This is about to gag y' all real bad. So I'm at the Elton John party. This is fabulous. Beautiful. It's for the AIDS Foundation. Like, we're supporting a good cause, but we also get to eat and sit and watch the Oscars. So we sitting there, we eating the food, we watching this show, and it's a really nice vibe. Lucky me. I get to sit right next to my girlfriend, Tiffany Haddish. So I'm sitting there with Tiffany Haddish. I got Cody Simpson on the right. I haven't seen him since we were kids. I'm like, hey, boo. And I don't know what it was I did, but I moved incorrectly. This dress that. By the way, the top that I'm wearing is, like 30 years old. I don't know. It's like an old V shot. Oh, no breaks in the back.
Weezy
Oh, yeah.
Keke Palmer
And by the way, nothing on underneath. Not even the nipple patches. Like, not even the little nipple cover. So I'm thinking to myself, oh, you know, I'm gonna have to either sit like this. Like, how am I? And I wanted to continue the full delicious Wait, wait.
Mandy B
That was your first thought, literally. Not the fact that it broke. I might have to pay for it now.
Keke Palmer
I already had bought it.
Mandy B
Oh.
Keke Palmer
It was already mine.
Mandy B
Okay.
Keke Palmer
And it was definitely expensive. So I'm thinking to myself, how the fuck this break like this? That fast? $40,000 for a top, and it broke
Mandy B
like that $40,000 top.
Keke Palmer
$40,000 I've been to.
Mandy B
That's why. This is why the sheen is going.
Keke Palmer
But let me tell you what's so good about this. This is the part that I couldn't wait to get you guys. I look to my left, and I say, tiffany, my top broke. She said, I got some super glue in my bag. One minute.
Mandy B
She did not have some glue.
Keke Palmer
I'm not kidding. She had some crazy glue in her bag. She pulled it crazy. She said, and one thing I need you to know from this moment and now, and I've always told you this, I got you. They don't say she ready for nothing. I said, what the hell is this? The commercial for your next step? She pulls the stuff, the crazy glue out. She glues on the back of the belt. She holds it. She says, hold on. I want to stick to your back. I got it right now. She holding it. She literally holds it for, like, 30 seconds. Y' all top fixed.
Weezy
The whole night.
Keke Palmer
The whole time.
Mandy B
I know. Wait one minute.
Weezy
This is your Whitney Houston saving t boss with the wig. Do you remember that? This is yours.
Mandy B
I need to know, though, how did you get out the top? If it was crazy glued.
Keke Palmer
She crazy glued the belt back on. So it just, you know, was because the belt buckle broke off. So I had the. You know how you do a. How you do a belt? You know what I mean? It's like if the belt buckle broke. So she super glued the belt buckle piece back on to the back of the dress so that it could go on, like, you know, into the loop and everything.
Weezy
Okay, seamstress haddish. Come on.
Keke Palmer
Like, I just needed y' all to know that that's what type of chick Tiffany haddish is.
Weezy
I actually have a question for you. Now that you said $40,000 top.
Keke Palmer
It was crazy.
Weezy
What's the last cheapy deepy? Like, do you. Do you do. Do you have a little fashion of mine? What's the last cheap? Yeah, like, where would you shop? Do you do high low?
Keke Palmer
Yes, I do do high low. I mean, it depends on what we're talking about buying. If it's like, clothes, of course. I mean, wait a minute. We consider Urban outfitters Is not. Is it expensive?
Weezy
Do we think?
Mandy B
Girl, them is $80 jeans. That's expensive.
Keke Palmer
Okay, let's manage that. Tell me what you think is. So, for instance, I be buying stuff off TikTok shop every now and then.
Weezy
Okay, I ain't gonna hold you. That's what I was expecting.
Keke Palmer
I ain't gonna hold you. I love a gets and gadgets. Like. I love a little bobble something like
Weezy
a little $9.99 to where I could add a few till we get to 75.
Keke Palmer
And what does it do? Why did I get it? Because it was on there, right?
Weezy
Why did I do that?
Keke Palmer
That was TikTok Chop. But it kind of fabulous. Also. Etsy look.
Mandy B
I like Etsy.
Keke Palmer
Y' all like Etsy?
Weezy
Oh, I gave me my tea about.
Keke Palmer
Oh, my gosh. I love Etsy, baby girl. I love a little beanie moment. This one lady, I wish I could drop her name right now, but she makes these little knitted beanie heads, girl.
Weezy
Oh, you know what you did? I bought some Etsy. I was at Black on the Block and I sent you a picture. Keke. I don't know if you remember, there was a girl that was selling T shirts and there was a huge. A frame of Keke. Keke Palmer has worn.
Keke Palmer
That's fabulous. And I said, she better market her shit.
Weezy
I took a picture of it.
Mandy B
I said, did you know?
Weezy
And you were like, I'm an Australian. But no, listen. And everybody came up and they're like, which one?
Mandy B
Kiki Pa. That is too funny. I'm curious about speaking of just even your clothes. We had. We just talked about it right before we started. When you came on to this pod for the very first time, you did not let nobody know that you was pregnant. And you said, don't tell nobody. We cannot talk about it, but I am expecting. I'm about to be a mother.
Keke Palmer
But why do pregnant people do that? I had that big ass jacket on.
Weezy
Big ass jacket?
Mandy B
No, no, no. The jacket was big, but then you. It was a little denim, you know.
Keke Palmer
You know what? I also thought his face was swollen.
Weezy
When you told me you was pregnant at that dinner that day, I was like, no. And you were like, yeah, Gila, yeah.
Keke Palmer
And first of all, you know, all the people involved, like, you know, the fam. So you probably already had been heard.
Weezy
No. You know, before I asked. It really was your outfit choice.
Keke Palmer
No, because they were obviously like ill fitted, like everything. I don't know why pregnant people do this, but it's like we just, you know, because we want to pick the right time, but we still want to be outside. We want to be able to deliver our good news. But it's such an obvious news. It's like not a news you can really hide. So it's like either. Well, it's a news too, that, you
Mandy B
know, you got to hold for a little bit because you got to make it past a certain time.
Keke Palmer
You know what I mean?
Mandy B
It gets a little tricky. I will also say though, the difference in you coming in here, you say, hey, y', all, I just got to do a look because I look fabulous night and day. From when you did come in, there was so many. From your body to your skin. There was so many insecurities that you had three years ago that have completely.
Keke Palmer
Girl, when you have that. When you have that freaking baby, when you're pregnant, I mean, I think also I'll say, like, in life you just grow. I mean, I would hope you do, you know what I'm saying? Like now, I don't know how old I was then. 28, 29. You know, you feel more comfortable, whatever. All those things are real as well. But also, when you're pregnant, you really do be feeling like you got egg on your face or something. Like everything feels so nerve wracking, you know, your body, all the changes that are happening.
Weezy
Like, but your skin has really.
Keke Palmer
Wow. Yeah, my skin was definitely on the up. But then as soon as after I had the baby, the skin went left again. Did it really save me, bitch? No, like, that skin stuff, it really is tough.
Weezy
Dermatology can bring you up.
Keke Palmer
Oh my gosh, really?
Weezy
Like, I just have been in so many places where someone will just say, do you remember Keke?
Keke Palmer
And then this.
Weezy
Because you were a marker for like. But for real, think about how you shared all of that shit with us
Keke Palmer
and the shit is gone. You know, I will say this to anybody, like, at the end of the day, we could talk holistic all day. We can talk dermatologists, we can talk estheticians. Sometimes medication may be what you need. And I'll leave it at that. I don't know which ones are gonna be good for you, but I just feel like people gotta understand we all have stuff we're dealing with. We all have stuff. And sometimes you can't. It ain't just, dude, drink the water. They ain't doing it, girl, I'm a fish especially. They're still messed up.
Mandy B
And then you all know the country you live in, there's certain places you can't even drink the water. So then there's now you better bring
Keke Palmer
up the truth while she went real political for a good moment. Oh, sorry, you can't even drink water out here.
Weezy
Maybe we're a sex podcast.
Keke Palmer
Well let you know.
Mandy B
Hold on, hold on. Well, mind you, I was about to say, well, there's also certain kind of facials that the ladies can get. But you see which she was about to go in. How do you want me to go? Here.
Weezy
No, I like that little segue.
Mandy B
Keep it. Where do we want to go first? I mean, for me, speaking of you coming on our pod before your baby to after, you also became somewhat a poster child of showing that you as a new mom and you was sexy and so a part of talking to you and talking to other women too, who feel like they have. They may have lost themselves.
Keke Palmer
Right? Yeah.
Mandy B
I have a friend right now. She just celebrated her one year old son's birthday. And the conversation for this first year and a half of this little boy's life has been she's relearning herself. She's a whole new person.
Keke Palmer
Yeah.
Mandy B
And so she's trying to find who she loves. She's trying to get back comfortable. Boobs are big. She thick now. But she's loving it. But also like, I'm a new me.
Keke Palmer
That's right.
Mandy B
How did you get to a point where you went through motherhood, went through the body changes, but found a way to be confident and embrace the new you?
Keke Palmer
Yeah. I will give a shout out to Sergio Hudson because right after I had had my son, me and him did the Met Gala together. Now we did the first Met Gala, we weren't together. I just wore his dress. That was when I had hosted. And then the second year after I had my baby, we did it together. And it was that relationship, meeting him and him encouraging me and pouring into me in fashion that really, I think helped me a lot. I loved it.
Weezy
You know what I'm saying?
Keke Palmer
Like it really. He supported me. He made me feel good in my new body. He showed me how to flaunt my body. He showed me how to feel positive about the things that I was excited about and also how to not feel insecure about the things that were, you know what I'm saying? I never had curves and stuff like that. You know what I mean? I never had that body.
Weezy
And speaking of, I remember the moment that. Cause, you know, Internet comments tear us up. And I wonder if the Internet made you feel better. There was a leopard dress or a cheetah dress or something and people said Do I need to have a baby, too? And everybody was on the shade room, like, keke got ass, girl.
Keke Palmer
When I say the Internet has torn me up and round inside. And I've had so many ups, and we all have so many experiences with the Internet. But then after that, baby body was unanimously profound. Like, everybody was like.
Mandy B
I was like, wow.
Keke Palmer
Like, guys, you really. And I really. But it's so funny, to that point, it wasn't how I knew me. So there was still a moment where it's like, it's great that everybody loves this and I love that everybody's giving me life, and that's cool, but I don't know that I love this, you know? And so I still had to figure out, like, again, how do I feel comfortable in my new body and how do I. Whatever changes I want to make or however I want to grow and I want to be me, how do I find that again? So it definitely was a process. And that's why you was talking about the Pilates. Like, for me, finding different practices, whether it was hiking, digging into my wellness, like, what I want to eat, what should be in my diet, what shouldn't, what should come out of my diet, what's going to help my skin, what's going to give me peace, Let me do my yoga, but actually let me do my Pilates because I like being active in the. In the. In the relaxation. All of those things were a part of, I think, what helped me find me again in a new way.
Weezy
Seeing you do Pilates. So we both jumped into Pilates as work. Yeah, my moment was a little different. So I've always been a lover of Pilates. And I had a moment a few years ago where I was in a class and I was saying to the teacher, like, oh, you know, you need some hip hop in here. Like, because of course, you know, Pilates is very white.
Keke Palmer
And she says it was also very seen as, like, an elitist, you know what I mean?
Weezy
Very wealthy, very.
Keke Palmer
Which I think should change.
Weezy
She said, we would never do that.
Keke Palmer
We would never do that. It's crazy.
Weezy
I had a drunk idea and I'm like, guess I'm making a trap house. And literally that was how it started for me. And so when building trap house, I used to make jokes with my business partner, like, we don't have all these white bitches in here listening to Jeezy. 95% of our clients are black women.
Keke Palmer
Come on.
Weezy
I mean, to the point where the white girls be like, I don't know
Mandy B
if I should come I don't want to invent respect.
Weezy
No, we'll take your money too. But the thing that I learned in this is I have stayed away from so many things, thinking it was unattainable for me, even if it's health wise. Just like, ah, that's too expensive. But then I'm spending a few hundred dollars at the club, getting fucked up.
Keke Palmer
Yes.
Weezy
Pilates, ain't that skincare?
Keke Palmer
Ain't that wellness? Wellness. Because I feel like with practice by Palmer, people are like, what is practice by Palmer? It's a culture, you know? Yeah, we do Pilates, but I also do strength training, but I also have conversations. It's about community. I love what you're doing with Trap House because it's about community building, where it's like, guys, like, let's. Let's make it our own. It doesn't have to be this thing that's far away from us or back in the day, when you say, oh, that's for white folk. No, it's for all the folk. We all should be able to have access to things that are gonna make us more optimal in life. And so that's what I'm on, you know what I'm saying? Especially being a mom and what I want my son to see me doing and how I can show up for him. Like, I'm on that wellness. I'm on that. You know, let's sip tea, but let it not be bitter, bitch.
Weezy
Honey, we can see from the outfit you are very Los Angeles now.
Mandy B
Leaning into health and core and all the stuff that y' all do. It also helps you in the bedroom, you know what I mean? And you got. See, you know what's crazy? You hear that up now I'm jealous, girl.
Keke Palmer
Uh, that's a fake ass move.
Mandy B
You say that's a fake move.
Keke Palmer
That ain't real.
Weezy
That's enough for the mistakes and ends,
Mandy B
but ain't, because I don't do much of those things. So I do want to talk about how getting to actually love yourself, working out, getting your body to be the best, and then deciding who gets to partake. Oh, so how do we decide that?
Keke Palmer
Cause I don't see anybody stop it when they act.
Mandy B
Stop it, guys. I'm not dating is not that difficult outside.
Keke Palmer
First of all, you've been had your man for ages. I don't know. Does the Internet.
Mandy B
Do people know the Internet, young girl?
Weezy
Okay, okay.
Keke Palmer
Yeah, period. Period. So you can't be involved. I don't know. Are you in a relationship?
Mandy B
Okay, I am in multiple.
Keke Palmer
That's why I can't talk to y'.
Care for the Culture Host
All.
Mandy B
I don't date.
Weezy
Because you thought we weren't there. You stay with a job, we stay
Mandy B
together, we stay with a man.
Keke Palmer
Okay.
Weezy
We do. Multiple dollars might not be working for you.
Mandy B
I know that's right. Right. And so then when you get to a place where. And I guess this is a question because I talked about it in our book, right?
Keke Palmer
In our book.
Mandy B
No, hopefully New York Science, Us colors. You know, I talked about how actually when I wasn't the most confident with my body, I realized I gave it up. More interesting because there was validation there that I needed or saw from those temporary interactions. And what's crazy is maybe that's why it's so difficult for you right now. It's not that there's not anyone out there, but when you become the best version of yourself, whether it be through working out, whether it be through therapy, whether it be like, damn, I'm that bitch. Yeah. It makes it harder for you to want to share your space with undeserving.
Keke Palmer
What you're speaking to is something that I remember. Ciara also changed. Excuse me. Sierra also said as well where your taste changes and that's no shade, right? But like as you think things change in your life, you acquire different tastes. And so I do think that, yeah, like, I'm not picky, but what interests me, what I'm open to, are different than they were before. And so it's like you're caught in between what you used to like who you've become and what it looks like for where you're going.
Mandy B
Is there any like, toxic trait of a man that you used to be? Used to be like, I'm gonna look past it or I really like this and now you won't do that.
Keke Palmer
I will say this is toxic and I'll use it lightly because toxic, you know, we just everything toxic. And I hope everybody move forward, you know what I'm saying? When I hear toxic, I feel like we all have to change. You know what I mean? So I hope that. But I think something that I used to, you know, have time for that I don't have time for is like, do the things you say you're going to do for yourself. When somebody used to not show up for theyself, I would recognize. I've always shown up for myself, right? But I could recognize the feeling and the emotion in somebody where they feel unseen and then. But if you don't catch that in the right time, then you start not seeing yourself.
Weezy
Do you wanna. When you see that happen, do you wanna be the healer? Do you wanna do it for them?
Keke Palmer
I think I end up feeling the vibe. And then now I'm reliving the shit I did. Ooh. Phase first. You know what I'm saying? Now I'm in phase one. Like I wanna go back to a new book. And then by the time I'm. Once that happens, they still in that first book. And so it's like I just outpaced it, if that makes sense. So anyway, I guess what I'm ultimately saying is I, you know, I could feel you, but I ain't gotta be with you. You know, I can feel you as a friend and I can connect. I can see myself in you. I remember when I was like that. I remember when I did it. You can get through that. But that don't mean we be together.
Mandy B
Right?
Keke Palmer
You know what I'm saying? As opposed to maybe it's like being with somebody, that's where you are. You know what I mean? And that's why they say the things of, like, equally yoked a lot of times. I used to feel bad about that. Cause it's like we all loved in God's eyes. But it's like, that's not really what that meant. It means like just that you swimming in eight feet. I'm swimming in eight feet. Just cause I know what it was like to be in three feet don't mean I gotta be over there with you. Now I can't go to eight feet. Cause all you can do is swim in three feet, right?
Weezy
Who holds you back?
Mandy B
Come on.
Keke Palmer
Now.
Weezy
We could pretend that it, but is everybody okay?
Mandy B
Mom.
Weezy
Mom, you can't.
Keke Palmer
What's up?
Weezy
Filming. You can't do that.
Keke Palmer
Yeah, what's up? She look cute.
Weezy
I'm sorry, we, you know, we don't do this at the house normally. That's my mother in the back, Keke. She says she coming. I'm making deviled eggs.
Keke Palmer
So hilarious.
Mandy B
Now, I did want to. Leading into that, we have a segment called Reactionary.
Keke Palmer
Yeah.
Mandy B
And where I think a lot of us are even, whether we're in relationships or dating. Right. I saw this interesting video about what it looks like to kind of choose yourself. And it leans into this word we talked about, toxic. But there's also this word called bread crumbing. And I wanted to play this video.
Keke Palmer
Bread crumbing.
Mandy B
Yeah. See, and I want.
Keke Palmer
No, no, no.
Mandy B
You've never heard that one.
Keke Palmer
I've never heard of this.
Mandy B
So I want.
Keke Palmer
Y' all know I Heard breadcrumbing. But like, it could be in so many different contexts. So many.
Mandy B
So I want to play this video and get your reaction from it.
Keke Palmer
Come on. Two fingers short. I know.
Mandy B
That's fine.
Weezy
You want to be with me or not? Because it feels like you're just barely keeping me around. So you give me just enough attention
Keke Palmer
to keep wanting you, but never enough to feel secure.
Weezy
It is.
Keke Palmer
What do you need from me?
Weezy
I need to know how you feel towards me.
Keke Palmer
Oh, well, I like having the option. So you have no intention of.
Weezy
Am I. Is that going to change? It might. Well, that doesn't feel good. I can imagine.
Keke Palmer
This is crazy.
Weezy
See? Should I close the door then?
Keke Palmer
If you want to. I don't want to. Why? Cuz I like the idea that one day you'll chase me. Oh, no.
Weezy
There's a chance that's enough for you.
Keke Palmer
So what do we do now?
Weezy
I guess we just keep doing this till one of us gives up.
Keke Palmer
Yeah. Yep. I guess I'll. I'll be anxiously waiting.
Mandy B
So this is an exaggerated clown nose. So it's an exaggerated form of. Where unfortunately, a lot of women find themselves when they're dating guys. They have the intention and desire more, but they receive only what the man gives them because it's just enough.
Weezy
But, you know.
Keke Palmer
But that's a reflection of you too.
Weezy
But also, we're taught that men have to lead. So a lot of women are pacing themselves.
Keke Palmer
Yeah.
Weezy
When I've made that mistake, I've had to recognize it as an adult. But before it was like, okay, well, I'm not gonna tell him what I want because he's gotta come to me.
Keke Palmer
I also think we don't give ourselves enough credit as women. And people don't give us enough credit. Girl, you know, you don't want shit neither. Oh, stop acting like you're the victim in this. You looking for something to do on Saturday as well? We always try to play this role sometimes where we're like, he's not giving it. No, you got exactly what you want. A Sometimey ass nigga.
Mandy B
Oh my God. Wait, my best friend is still here. Oh my God, you talking out loud Sometimey too.
Keke Palmer
Ooh, that's what we try to act like. We try to fill this role and make it be boohoo. No, it ain't. Boo hoo, girl, you got exactly what you looking for. Ride it till you don't want to ride it.
Weezy
No, but no, you right.
Keke Palmer
And I think I do that to ourselves.
Mandy B
I love that you say that because, yes, a Lot of times, unfortunately, the rhetoric is, men ain't shit. But it's like, as women are, we are we.
Keke Palmer
But also we getting exactly what we asked for.
Mandy B
And do we really know that we want more? And are we ready for more? Because we're also maybe just right here because this is just enough.
Weezy
I only know what she keeps talking about when he really ain't shit. Like, hey, see, look, she going back
Mandy B
and blaming the man.
Weezy
No, no, no.
Mandy B
You see it.
Weezy
Let me explain myself.
Mandy B
Accountability.
Weezy
When I come over and the bills are just kind of stacked up, and I know the lights may turn off at any moment, but the sound is good.
Keke Palmer
Now, that sounds crazy, but what you just said was, but the sex is good. You getting exactly what you asked for.
Mandy B
You know what I mean?
Keke Palmer
And you paying for it in them bills.
Weezy
You know the thing I'd be like, you know what? I'll get the Uber eats. I'll order the food. You know what?
Keke Palmer
Just sit. And I think people gotta be real what they say.
Mandy B
But that's also, I think, the problem right now. So when we talk about that, that being D whipped, dick whipped. When the sex is good and the sex can be good across, you know, multiple people, girl, you know, we sitting here working with people.
Keke Palmer
I got D whipped. Has me on the flip. It's really.
Weezy
Cause Ms. Sharon in the back, you know, y' all be over here.
Mandy B
We be over here. I'm like, can I say that? But the conversation around sex and how we have it a lot of time, that blurs our decision making in what makes money more. Now, what you just said, as a woman, we may want a real relationship, we want love. But when it's good, nothing else sometimes seems to matter. Or we'll stick around as long as we can keep getting at it.
Keke Palmer
I think we got to be real with the parameters, right? Like, people got to start really having real conversations. I don't think we're having real conversations with sex. And I get it. Maybe this is also, like, a part of the gray space that people need to be turned on, which is part of the problem. But, like, just say, look, boo, fool. You know what I mean? Look, I like what we doing in the bedroom. I don't need nothing more. Let's just do this. Let's figure it out. Like, when you free, I'm free. Like, let's be respectful of each other. But, like, I don't need nothing more from you.
Weezy
I don't think it starts. I think it starts like that, but I think other stuff, they be lying.
Mandy B
Feelings get Involved?
Keke Palmer
How do they get involved?
Weezy
You cuddle. That's how you fuck me.
Keke Palmer
And then it's like, maybe I'm too detached.
Weezy
Cause I love. Oh, my God, look how funny.
Keke Palmer
I feel like this is a character.
Mandy B
Stop it. I'm out.
Keke Palmer
Like, just be a character. Get into. You know, we've got to compartmentalize in a healthy way.
Mandy B
Do you think women are capable of really doing that? Without a doubt. That's the conversation where people don't think that they are.
Keke Palmer
You know how guys. Because we always got 12 different things we're doing at once. We're amazing at multitasking. But I think that society has also put us in this position with our relationships where we have to play only one or two roles. Why put on Spike Lee's movie with the lady with. She got hair, she got half and going.
Mandy B
She got hat. She got.
Weezy
It was another whole movie, but that was.
Keke Palmer
Oh, yeah.
Mandy B
She said Spike Lee girl.
Keke Palmer
She's talking about the TV show, huh? Yeah, the movie.
Mandy B
The movie.
Keke Palmer
She's gotta have it. Oh, no. Now she's gotta have it.
Mandy B
Is it.
Weezy
No, wait, it is.
Keke Palmer
Confused me.
Weezy
She had three boyfriends. That's you.
Keke Palmer
That was.
Mandy B
She gonna have it.
Keke Palmer
Boom. Three boys. That was a sketch. That moment. I need, like, I need just that moment. But yeah, that moment where it's like, live in your truth, find what's good for you.
Mandy B
However, then you do it as a woman, and you're called a jezebel by all of America.
Keke Palmer
We just don't say that to anybody.
Weezy
We just experience. They say any to us.
Mandy B
And so as women, how are you liberated? One guy, you may only like his sex.
Keke Palmer
You may, like, go to dinner with this dude. You may, like, you know, going to bed with that guy. You may, like, you know, talking to this dude on the phone. Look, it's called dating for a reason. You're not married. Damn. As long as we're being honest.
Mandy B
No, they date when they're married too.
Keke Palmer
Married men have to be stopped.
Weezy
Do you find that when it comes
Keke Palmer
with you on that.
Weezy
Wait, do you.
Keke Palmer
Do we do a hearing, say to
Weezy
the married men, why do they come of you?
Keke Palmer
They don't know if they swinging. They don't know, like, is your wife involved or not?
Weezy
Speaking of swinging, have you had.
Keke Palmer
It's like cackling in the back.
Mandy B
It's. Cackling in the back is hilarious.
Keke Palmer
Let me ask my question. Oh, my gosh. You holding. Why you holding like a 40?
Weezy
You know, we hear about Hollywood parties, right? And how they get nasty and I'm not talking about the one you just came to on Tuesday, your birthday party
Keke Palmer
with the cake and the cake pink vaja.
Weezy
So has there been like a celebrity couple that was like.
Keke Palmer
No, but I feel like people have wanted. Well, actually somebody did once and they came up to me very normal and I respected that. I respect. They was like, look, me and my husband, we would love to blah, blah, blah. And I was like, thank you. You know, I wasn't into it, but I was like, thank you.
Mandy B
You weren't into it or was one of them not attractive that's actually seen now, wait, but it's okay, we ain't got to talk about you.
Weezy
One of them like you fucked with
Mandy B
one of their work.
Weezy
Like you actually like them and were like, they ruined it.
Keke Palmer
Now say the last part again.
Weezy
Like, were you a fan of one of their works or something?
Keke Palmer
Yes, I'm very close. Yeah, very.
Mandy B
Yeah, period.
Keke Palmer
Fucked them heavy. Yeah, yeah, I fucked with them heavy. And I respected the vibe that she took. Now I've had other people that I felt have wanted to do that kind of thing and they weren't really coming right out with it. Spit it out.
Weezy
How do they have the saying like keke, we should go eat sometimes altogether?
Keke Palmer
Because look, you know, we have a unique thing going on. If you ever own it, if you're ever down.
Mandy B
Nah, I'm sorry.
Keke Palmer
Just be cute and just be respectful. Allow somebody to have consent. I don't think there's anything wrong with people's unique relationships. I think we gotta stop yucking everybody's young period. If somebody is in an open marriage, if somebody has a swinging relationship, if somebody has a whatever, let them do that. You ain't gotta be a part of it. But like people have things that work for them. And I think the path, the problem is while we get into some of this cheating and this lying and blah blah, is cause people can't be themselves. Be yourself. Find somebody that lets you be yourself, even if yourself is. Look, every five days I gotta go and be in the woods. That's my thing. Every five days I gotta go spend time in the woods. Let that motherfucker go to the woods.
Mandy B
And if he could be honest with you. And as long as he getting tested and everything is safe and everything is clean and everything is.
Keke Palmer
And that is a thing in general across the board because people are being full on close relationships. It's just them too and can't even tell the truth and can't tell the truth. We do need to get more talkative with the Consensus scent factor. Just lay it on the line. Do you want to get busy?
Care for the Culture Host
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Keke Palmer
Oh, wow.
Care for the Culture Host
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Mandy B
Weezy just sent something to my phone.
Keke Palmer
Celestial ucla Mic.
Mandy B
Yes. Cheryl Lee Ralph was advocating about getting tested in prep and all these things. And the people in the comments were so ignorant because they was like, the messaging used to just be abstinent. Now it's preventative now. But also one of the comments from a married woman, they was mad about that. They were mad that a married woman was saying to be safe.
Weezy
And you can't think of who Sheryl Lee Ralph is.
Keke Palmer
It gets to the point where everybody just mad.
Mandy B
No, Sheryl Lee Ralph is my queen. She says she don't even live with her man.
Weezy
If anybody is going to be the person to tell us to take care of ourselves, the fact that it's that.
Mandy B
Mom, I can't.
Keke Palmer
You don't even want to listen to Auntie? No more like what? You can't listen to Auntie? Auntie can't even tell you. Wrap it up.
Mandy B
You know what's funny about that? You know what's funny about that, though? But we didn't like. Can you remember the things that the older ladies. And mind you, when we say older ladies and we go down, it's really now, the 30s, for real. It's just the women in their 30s,
Keke Palmer
we thought they was so grandma, so grandmama.
Weezy
We didn't we do that.
Mandy B
But they knew what they were talking about and unfortunately they didn't. So I think these types of conversation needs to just actually be had more across peers.
Keke Palmer
I agree.
Mandy B
Across friends, across.
Keke Palmer
And we're grown. We're grown enough to set the example and to set the standard of what it should look like getting into to any sexual relationship.
Mandy B
I agree.
Keke Palmer
It's appropriate. It's. That's what we should be doing.
Weezy
And I think the thing that I'm thinking about when y' all are talking is Sheryl Lee Ralph was talking about HIV specific specifically.
Keke Palmer
Okay.
Weezy
Right.
Keke Palmer
That's right.
Weezy
And that is the scariest thing for everybody to hear about. But what I would Love to know is like, we're talking about this right now as friends and podcasters. Did your mom, because y' all are so close, ever talk to you about sexual safety? But did. When she did, did HIV come up or was it pregnancy? Like, how did that look?
Keke Palmer
You know, my mom, her first thing was when I had my. I got my period very young. I was about 11. I was 11 years old. On the Madea's family reunion set. No, we was in Atlanta, Georgia, and I was on Medea Film reunion. I got my little period.
Mandy B
Yeah, that's what I came during.
Keke Palmer
The period is crazy.
Mandy B
I got my little period. I'm a woman to check.
Keke Palmer
Right. Anyway.
Mandy B
But Medea. Never mind.
Keke Palmer
So anyway, my mom was like, you can get pregnant now. Just so you know. That was, like, the entry point.
Weezy
Shut up.
Keke Palmer
She was serious about that type of stuff. And she started telling me about how, you know, where she grew up and how a lot of the young girls did. She did have friends that was 12 years old that had kids, you know, that grew up in women's shelters and stuff like that. And then she started talking to me about rape culture and her friends going places and somebody dropping something and they drink. So it was mostly around, you know, childbearing and possibly, like, being taken advantage of. What could result in that? It was a lot of, like, some of that trauma that she had heard secondhand from friendships. And then as I got older, it started to be letting me know about hiv. You know, it's interesting. We never had really any extreme conversations around, you know, the, you know, chlamydia or gonorrhea or any of those things. I would hear about them on television, actually watching Degrassi when Emma got gonorrhea.
Mandy B
Oh, my God, stop it.
Keke Palmer
I remember watching that.
Weezy
I lost my voice.
Mandy B
Don't say anything. I mean, you did just have a
Weezy
party with a whole lot happening now.
Keke Palmer
You know, we hear about that kind of stuff or we hear about it in pop culture. But my mom did talk to me about HIV and aids, because that was like, a big epidemic. Obviously, it always has been, but it was. She. Remember when it happened?
Weezy
Because our mom has probably had, like. My mom talked to me about it because she had lost a friend.
Keke Palmer
Absolutely.
Weezy
And see, that's the thing that's changed now, because HIV was so terrible back then for people because it was turning into aids. Cause there was no prep. There was nothing preventative. Right. There were no.
Keke Palmer
Which. I'm so thankful for all that stuff now. I really, really am thankful for that.
Weezy
And I'm glad that we're talking about it because, you know, we talk about sex on our show every week. You probably have the dash.
Keke Palmer
But we like to talk about it more.
Weezy
Here we are.
Keke Palmer
It's just not happening for me.
Weezy
But HIV is growing amongst black women more than anybody else in the country.
Keke Palmer
Shout outs to the Girlfriends episode that just came on last night that I was watching. Cause I go to sleep to that show when they were talking about that. They did two great episodes about it. One of them was with Kimberly Elise when she was their long term friend who came back in town and they were envying her life. And she was. Joan was mad because she was like, you took my man, you took my man. She said, yeah, you know what? And he gave me hiv. But the other one, you know, they removed it. They removed that Kimberly Elise.
Mandy B
No, there was another one with the
Keke Palmer
documentary that Lynn made.
Mandy B
Well, there was another one where I think one of the men had HIV on it. I think it was one of their close friends and they all were scared to be around.
Keke Palmer
Oh, yes, that was the Kimberly Elise.
Mandy B
Yes, Kim.
Keke Palmer
Kimberly Elise cut her finger, her hand with a knife. And Joan threw the knife away.
Mandy B
Yes.
Keke Palmer
Cause Joan was like, oh my gosh, you know, I never can use it again. And Kimberly was like, no, no, no, that's not how it is. And so I love that we have those things, those things that she's talking about. And I just saw something online the other day where a young woman was talking about her storyline, how she was just. This was a longtime guy that she had been messing with for years. And next thing you know, he gave her to her. You know what I'm saying? And so, so anyway, it's just important that we have these discussions. That's why I really do feel like we get. It's like we live in this world, y', all, where it's like one second is flew out city girls, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. And the next minute, don't ask me about, don't ask me about my health.
Mandy B
It's literally that. And we were talking, why is it
Keke Palmer
either porn or not?
Mandy B
Nothing at all.
Weezy
And that's the problem with those comments that day. It was like, what happened to the conversation about abstinence? It doesn't. It's not real. It's not real.
Mandy B
But also weird things.
Weezy
Do you know in Houston, 1% of people are asexual?
Keke Palmer
1% of people are asexual.
Weezy
That means 99% of the population wants to fuck.
Keke Palmer
True.
Weezy
And the problem with abstinence conversation is you discourage People to be honest, to get tested and to disclose. And then I'm looking at these comments
Keke Palmer
like it's a human thing.
Mandy B
But even outside of the comments, what I've been seeing happening in Houston, it's
Keke Palmer
spring break and what has been like, I've seen a video.
Weezy
Okay, can y' all tell how did it happen?
Mandy B
Hold on.
Keke Palmer
How do we arrive?
Mandy B
Okay, what happened was Miami started putting curfew. So in our day, back in our day, we was going to Vegas, we was going to Miami.
Keke Palmer
Miami was that girl.
Mandy B
Miami was her 11:11 period. I was like, before 11. I'm talking about before then. I'm talking about way back then when it was like kld tootsie.
Keke Palmer
Okay. Yeah.
Mandy B
King of Diamonds on Monday.
Weezy
It used to be a Walmart. That's why the poll so high.
Mandy B
I did not. Anyways, right now the Gen Z are partying it up in Houston.
Keke Palmer
Okay.
Mandy B
And what's crazy is we see it all on social media. It's a lot of people. It's freak nick 2.0, right?
Keke Palmer
Yeah.
Mandy B
Now I just saw nurses posting about the spike in Houston specifically talking going on. And I love. And I don't know if it's. I don't think it's violating hipaa, but I do like that nurses are like, listen, there's a spike in STDs happening right now because everyone's coming into this. By the way, those are the locals getting tested. What about the people who came to town and went back to their little town? What's happening? And so when we're in a place where we're preaching to date multiple people.
Keke Palmer
Yeah.
Mandy B
And go out and get your. Go out and get your nut, girl. Good luck getting it. Because they having a little problem finding out how to do it. But if we're avid. I'm just saying. I'm saying.
Keke Palmer
But I'm with you on this 1000%. You have to be responsible. You have to be responsible and we
Mandy B
have to be able to talk about it to where you're not a shame.
Keke Palmer
Whatever persons. We should be able to just be
Weezy
open and you know, people that fuck multiple people generally have that language. Like we've interviewed so many porn stars over time, they know they status immediately. Right now if I ask my homegirl who's maybe dated one guy 10 months ago, maybe then just on a few dating apps, like they just get their pap, they're not really asking for money.
Mandy B
And even a pap you don't have to get yearly.
Keke Palmer
So which is crazy with that Pap. They try to force it. I tried to force it. She was like, you don't need it. I was like, but I want it. You don't need it.
Mandy B
And I think that's another thing. Just ask. Advocating for yourself as black women. Not even just STDs, but it's everything.
Keke Palmer
Can I have one as well?
Mandy B
Thank you so much. How you gonna tell. How you gonna tell me what I need and what I don't need for my body?
Keke Palmer
You know what I mean? I'm that person. I ain't even did nothing. I'll be ready to take a test. There's no reason why to do it, but why not?
Mandy B
Now, I did wanna ask you because we were talking about comments on social media.
Weezy
Yes.
Mandy B
We talked about how you had a really good response to your new body as a new mama. And those relationships, those parasocial relationships were dope. However, we just saw a girl. You was at south by Southwest.
Weezy
Now, I do want to also preface this by saying when we. You know, when you do interviews, you got a team. This was one of those things that we really wanted to check in with and see if it was okay to discuss with you. Because that, for me, was really scary to watch. Not just.
Mandy B
Can you explain to the people who may not have seen it?
Weezy
Of course. Of course. Let me cook.
Keke Palmer
She said, I just got in the
Mandy B
oven when I was trying to tell
Weezy
you I love y' all when, you know, we are casual friends. We don't talk all the time. Seeing a clip of you look a little bit scared when you have so much confidence. And at south by Southwest, somebody proposed to you, and I just. I wanted to talk about it because of how you handled yourself. And we talk about safety so much, but at the same time, it was so violating that it's like, how can we do this in a way that feels tasteful because you are so fun. So to bring keke down from the fun may not be fun for you to watch. But, like, I want you to walk us through when you were looking. You know, when that ring came out like, you. You asked if it was a prank. Like, walk us through a little bit of how you kept composure.
Keke Palmer
First of all, I just love you guys. I love you guys so much. I love talking with y', all, hanging with y'.
Mandy B
All.
Keke Palmer
I like how y' all present everything and give me the opportunity to talk to it. Yeah. So at first. So I will show you a little bit. Cause I want you to be able to see what the vibe was. This is how I knew that something was wrong. Because the ring was nice.
Weezy
Stop it.
Keke Palmer
It wasn't like no cracker jacket.
Weezy
Keke, please don't make me laugh.
Keke Palmer
Serious.
Weezy
Why are we laughing?
Keke Palmer
The ring looked expensive and it looked, it looked, it looked expensive. That's when I knew something's up. But like, so talk to each other right now and then just look at me when you have to.
Weezy
Okay, so you know, we about to have Kiki on here today. She didn't say the talk. We're just acting.
Mandy B
You see?
Weezy
No.
Mandy B
Oh, wait.
Keke Palmer
With the ring, with this type of eye contact. And so I was like thinking to myself that. That's when I was like, is this a joke? Because it was so sincere. Like I could see in his eyes that we've had romance. We had a lifetime in this man's eyes where he was like, seriously, like, like, like it gave. Like the day finally came and I'm like, how could this be? You know? And so then I was like, okay, sir, you know, no, I cannot marry you. You know, I cannot marry you, sir. And then that's when I knew. When he started looking back to the people and he was like, she wants to say yes. Help her say yes. And I was just like, oh, no.
Weezy
He said constantly.
Keke Palmer
He said, help her say yes. That's what I. Then I got sad, guys, because I feel like, I feel like when stuff like this happen, it's not even about me. It's about like we're really in a really bad time. Like economically, like loneliness rates are at an all time high. Depression is up, you know, people suicide. Like for him to. What kind of. I felt so nervous. I was nervous more for myself, delayed after because I was like, oh, it could have got dangerous. But in the moment it went from this is a joke to I've got to be careful with how I break the reality of this guy because this is fragile. Because for him to walk up there, for him to go, first of all, he looked he. Like a pretty together guy.
Weezy
He did.
Keke Palmer
He got this ring. The ring looked expensive. He paid for a ticket to be in south by Southwest. They're not cheating. They're not. And then he got the gumption to walk up here and ask me to marry and actually believed that I could potentially say yes. This is nothing to play with. And that's why I got very. Just started feeling sad because I was thinking to myself, man, this guy is in a really bad way, man. We might look back at his storyline. He might have just got laid off. He might have got laid off, started living at his mama's. House and watched me say, you know, it's your girl. And he done watch every episode of Baby. This kid Palmer, he, like, she makes me happy.
Weezy
Is the connection that you build. Like, we all know you. I feel like I know you. I feel like watching my phone, seeing Leo, you give us so much you didn't make you want to stop, man.
Keke Palmer
You know what? I've had different moments of extreme visibility throughout my career. I remember when I did True Jackson VP and the show first hit, you know, And I remember going to. My uncle has been on dialysis for many years, and this was, like, the beginning of it. And it's a timer that you have to go back and do all that type of stuff, right? And so, like, hundreds of people were surrounding me at the place. And I felt when I was a kid and I would experience extreme fame and visibility, I would be stunted, and I wouldn't know how to speak to it, and I wouldn't know what to do, and it would traumatize me and I would just kind of like, I don't know how to let them down. But then, like, we gotta go back and get my uncle on this dialysis machine. And my parents are like, we need to go. But I don't wanna know who to disappoint. How do I honor myself? How do I honor my family? How do I honor their reality of me? So now, flashbacking forward to where I am now, it makes me wanna talk about it. It makes me wanna share and say that I do understand what I represent and I do understand how people are responding to me, and I do care about those things. But. But I must be honest, and I must say, I'm only. I'm only human. You know what I'm saying? Like, I give what I can and I show joy and I share because that's who I am. But, like, I have limitations, you know? And I hope that we can all start having these conversations around what it means to be an entertainer, what it means to be a celebrity, what it means to have impact and visibility.
Mandy B
Because you know what's scary, though? Anyone with an Instagram can be in a situation where someone has a parasocial relationship with them. Like, if you were a woman in your city posting photos, without a doubt, a man that saw your picture and knows that you live in the same city could start seeing you. And so I also, for the people listening, we have to remember, it's not just the podcasters or celebrities or child stars, singers, you know, all the other stuff.
Weezy
It's for all of Us.
Mandy B
It's for all of us as women. It is true to realize that people could have relationships with us in their mind as long as we're placing our pictures online.
Keke Palmer
And that's why I do think people like, I get it. The celebrity for the celebrity is a thing. Fame for fame is a thing. Right. I'm not shading anybody's reality and how they want to make money. But this is why I never understood it, because, you know, it's one thing to want, you know, to want to be known for what you do and creating something, whatever it is. I can understand how you'd be willing to put yourself on the line for that. I understand why. Visually, you'd be like, okay, this is for my calls, or this is for my blah, blah, blah. But, like, it's not nothing to play with for no reason at all.
Mandy B
Right?
Keke Palmer
You know, just to be seen and not being actually known and put and want to be, you know, that's a lot for anybody to handle. So I think people should also really think about that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, social media, whether you're an influencer or not or just somebody that posts and whatever, like, these are things to think about. You know, when I came into the game, I didn't know about fame and popularity. It's something that ended up happening. But I remain doing what I'm doing because I care about my craft. I care even more so as I've grown up in my generation. I care about being a reflection, like my podcast. I care about, like, reflecting the conversations we're having online. The same way that you guys. We're the same. Where it's like, I'm interested in pop culture. I want to talk about these things. And so, yeah, it's like, it is what it is. It comes with it.
Mandy B
I will say something that I really love that you've been doing more. First off, you have an act to just get people to be completely comfortable with you. So we've seen how you've got Usher to open up about his experience with sex at an early age. But one of the clips that recently had a lot of us talking as women, especially millennial women, is the fact that we were dating older guys when we didn't really need to. And so I wanted to talk about what those conversations look like in terms of safety and dating. And when y'.
Keke Palmer
All.
Mandy B
When y' all had that. Yeah, when y' all had that moment with you and Demi about it kind of where it brought you back to and where you're like, ooh, there's so many things that need to be unlearned. And I would love for you to talk to like the women listening. In terms of dating, what things have you had to unlearn?
Keke Palmer
Man, I had to unlearn a lot of stuff, you know what I'm saying? I think rape culture is really big. And I'm not even just talking about that situation, I'm talking about other situations I've had.
Mandy B
Okay.
Keke Palmer
You know what I'm saying? So I think so starting with that. It's hard to know what is wrong when you don't, when you haven't visualized it that way. So the age discrepancy stuff, I think it took many years for me to understand what consent couldn't have been at that age for me, you know? And I remember watching this movie called the Tale with. Oh my gosh, the movie is called the Tale. I cannot remember the actress's name. Common was in it.
Mandy B
Okay?
Keke Palmer
And I wish I could, but I wrote about it in my book. And watching that movie was really impactful for me because it was this young girl who kind of was like, in the story that we're watching, she's dating an older guy, but she looks a lot older. Like she looks like, you know, more true and everything like that. But then when we actually go back to it, like what her age really was, we see how young she was, really was in comparison to the guy. And I think that it's hard to realize those things, at least from my point of view, because a lot of people might feel differently. But for me, when I think about my age, or if I think about even when I was at 25, whatever, I wouldn't be interested in nobody that's 16 or 17. Right? I just wouldn't be. And so I think when you start looking at it from that point of view, then you kind of are like, well, maybe, you know what I mean? And then you start examining stuff from a different vantage point that you didn't have then.
Mandy B
Oh yeah, the way I'm about to read Coldest Winner Ever and look at it differently. Cuz Midnight, we liked Midnight. And so it's a little different.
Keke Palmer
And culture has changed.
Weezy
Culture has changed.
Keke Palmer
I don't think we talk enough about how culture has changed as well.
Mandy B
Because for the better.
Keke Palmer
For the better.
Weezy
For the better.
Keke Palmer
But like for the better. That's also why many of us, I think back in those days, we didn't think of it like that. We, we. Because. And that's also like, I mean, look, I Haven't read tons of books on. On culture and conversations in academia, blah, blah, blah. But, like, right, we're in it, we're living it. And that's what they say is that like. Like, when you're looking back, everything is. Hindsight is always 2020, because you can see things from a different vantage point. And it was like culture at that time. And what we thought was okay and what we thought was appropriate, especially with Demi and I and just child entertainers, a lot of older people. Friendships even. Not even just romantic friendships as well, because you making money like a grownup, and it's isolating to your peers, but you still not grown, though.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Keke Palmer
And people take advantage of that. And you don't realize until later, like, man, that was kind of crazy. That shouldn't have happened. But what can you do, you know? Can't cry over, spill milk. You just kind of move forward type of thing.
Weezy
We're just in a weird era of child stars and, you know, and it's really the Internet because it's so accessible to learn about everybody. Now learning that Brittany, you know, reading her book, I was kind of like, oof. You know, even the other day, I'm listening to Toxic and all these different stories, and I'm like, damn. All the lyrics are about her being caged up. Like, seeing Amanda. You know what I mean?
Keke Palmer
Amanda kills me. I don't know what even the storyline is there. Nobody has ever really spoken to her. We've never even got really an interview with. You're not talking about Amanda Bynes, right?
Weezy
Yeah. Yeah.
Keke Palmer
But I really do wonder, you know what I'm saying? How's she doing? You know? Cause I loved her.
Weezy
She pops out in LA every once in a blue, and people get to see her and enjoy her company. But.
Keke Palmer
And, hell, maybe she's great, you know, I don't know. You know, maybe she's just like, I'm doing this for the gag of it. You know what I mean? Is she in the house like, Kiki, Kiki, you never know.
Mandy B
You never know.
Keke Palmer
You never know.
Mandy B
Well, now, how soon do you start telling your friends about a dude you actually like?
Keke Palmer
I don't have nobody else, okay?
Mandy B
You hate everybody.
Keke Palmer
I love everybody, but they don't love me. So, guys, I'm telling you. Let me ask y' all this. Cause y' all know me writing Real
Mandy B
Talking into podcasting now. Kiki, want to ask, though.
Weezy
I need to tell me you do it.
Keke Palmer
Do I. Do I come up, like, very professional or something? Do I not come off, like people don't really like what do I come off?
Mandy B
Are we giving honest honesty?
Keke Palmer
Stop it. Honestly. I want to give it honest now. Okay, don't play.
Mandy B
You look like you would laugh while sucking dick. Like you just look like nothing would be taken serious in the bedroom. Like you look like you'd be down there and be like, hey, look, guys. Like, you look like you would make a joke with the dick.
Weezy
I was gonna say.
Keke Palmer
Well, what are we supposed to do?
Mandy B
No, girl, wait.
Keke Palmer
It looks like a joke.
Mandy B
Here it is. Hold up. She is. No, she not doing nothing. Fallicle girl.
Weezy
Okay, Just color the brand. Nothing fallical. But it's just like.
Keke Palmer
I will not lie. I am sick. I do make jokes and stuff.
Mandy B
And they know that.
Keke Palmer
Like it may be a good time, not a long time.
Weezy
You add on to it.
Mandy B
Say something funny.
Weezy
Like, I didn't think you were gonna be tri colored.
Keke Palmer
Look at the little top hat. He's got a whole sleeve.
Mandy B
And that's what they think you're gonna do in the bedroom. Kiki. Kiki. See, that's okay.
Keke Palmer
So wait, that was hers. That was hers.
Mandy B
That was hers.
Keke Palmer
Oh, here we go. That was hers. What's yours? Tell the truth. What do I come off as? For real? Cause I feel like guys don't really know how to approach me or they don't know why they would approach me.
Weezy
I've seen you liked somebody and. But this was a long time ago. Call the. I think a lot of people are almost belie thinking it's unbelievable. So here's why.
Keke Palmer
What could be unbelievable?
Mandy B
One,
Keke Palmer
I love you. You know, you don't know how you're perceived.
Weezy
Okay, this is half of my guess. I think these conferences consider your age, right? I'm 35 years old. Even whatever age we are, we grew up with you. And I think. And I was at a regular party with you. I don't know if you wanna lead this in.
Mandy B
No, you could, but I was at
Weezy
a regular party with you and you went. And when you was flirting, I think he was like, is this fucking keke flirting with me? And then because you got a little nervous, you started. Nah, what are you saying?
Keke Palmer
I go full on Sandra Bullock, Miss Congeniality. I am, you know, I am. I am silly and bi. And that is true. I want to go back to this unbelievable, this type of thing. Like so what? So what breaks that Gila. Okay, your name's not Gila.
Weezy
She goes on it. But this is what I mean because you really are on screen. Who we know. I don't think people Believe it. They're like, this is her. She's disauthentic or whatever. It doesn't feel real because they're not believing. This is you. Think about how many celebrities we've come across that are fucking weird and clammy and whatever. You still are. Fun, vibrant, I don't think.
Mandy B
And very rich.
Keke Palmer
And you think that's a thing, too. But what are rich niggas? They don't want. No, I'm ready.
Mandy B
You're too busy. The rich men want someone available at the drop of a diamond. Guess what, Ms. KTD. Not available.
Keke Palmer
Come on. I do love a gig, but I feel like.
Mandy B
But no, girl.
Weezy
I just have to.
Mandy B
You got a whole nother little. It's funny, because I was gonna say they looking for a ride or die. And I saw you just.
Keke Palmer
By the way, can we talk about how that's my dream come true?
Weezy
Marlon.
Keke Palmer
Marlon Wayne. And I was like, why?
Mandy B
Every time I'm on the Internet, it's a new. It's something new with Keke. And I saw that, and I was like, oh, my God, Rom Com. Now this might or die.
Keke Palmer
I'm thrilled because I know I get to kiss him at least once.
Weezy
Oh, God. You get to kiss.
Keke Palmer
I know I get to kiss.
Mandy B
Is there going to be a sex scene? Give us some tea.
Keke Palmer
Now, I would be a joke, but I said, see, that would be crazy.
Weezy
But wait, you did that one when
Mandy B
you was kissing that girl?
Keke Palmer
Oh, yeah. Pimp. That's what I love. Haley keeping his. She's been here before.
Weezy
She always talks. She's friendly with me.
Mandy B
But after seeing that, I was like, so. So you're. So you're excited about that film. I did want to lean. Are you a ride or die in real life?
Keke Palmer
Well, what do we consider.
Mandy B
What is. What? It's the wrong. What? I mean, I'm not dying for nobody.
Keke Palmer
You know what I mean?
Mandy B
Like, if you go to jail, I'm not even writing you. You know, the poor.
Keke Palmer
Right?
Mandy B
You know, but, like, are you down for the long haul? If he loses his job, you gonna hold him down? If he cheats, you gonna forgive him? Cause it was a mistake.
Keke Palmer
Like, can I forgive someone if they've cheated? I could. Okay. If somebody. If a man. If a good man lost his job, he got down on his luck, could I hold him down? I could.
Mandy B
You know what's a deal breaker for you?
Weezy
We don't have a time limit. We need a time limit.
Keke Palmer
A deal breaker. Time is usually a thing. Like, that's a time. Time is A big thing for me. Like, for me and my relationships also. Like, if I feel like we're not moving forward, like, if I got into a serious relationship and we've been together for two years, and I don't feel that we are growing together, I don't really go beyond that.
Mandy B
Would you open up the relationship with other people?
Keke Palmer
Well, why would we be doing that? I'd be single. You know what I mean? You know, that's how I feel.
Mandy B
You know how you feel?
Weezy
If I didn't judge our whole friendship. Cause, you know, every time you ask me a question, it do get funny.
Keke Palmer
You be like, so that's what y' all got going down?
Weezy
That's what I'm doing.
Keke Palmer
Good to know. I'm kidding. That one party. Where you at?
Weezy
My head. So, y'. All.
Keke Palmer
What y' all doing over there? Looking for company.
Mandy B
Would you be a unicorn?
Keke Palmer
Would I be a guest star?
Mandy B
Yes. Oh, I'm open. Come on. Guest star.
Keke Palmer
You know, I'm a Virgo sun with a sad.
Mandy B
Here we go. With this.
Keke Palmer
With a cancer rising. It depends on what's happening in the stars. It could go either way. You know, I never say never. Never say never.
Mandy B
Oh, on that note, Keke, thank you so much. I know. What do you want us to do?
Keke Palmer
I hate this shit.
Weezy
Me too.
Keke Palmer
Every time I leave you guys, this is the fun combos. This is. I know the girls are somewhere. We need to make sure that the girls are somewhere watching this with other girls. Hello.
Mandy B
And.
Keke Palmer
And drinking and eating. Like, I need a charcuterie board at the table.
Mandy B
Charcuchie.
Keke Palmer
You know, we need to. Oh, my gosh, guys. You guys. Me and Sza, in one of them days, we did a hot cheetos martini, and we needed Joe to watch this.
Mandy B
Did you really drink that, though? I know it was in the movie, but did you really drink it? We did a hot cheetos martini. You came up with that? When they wouldn't let you shut feet in the script. You said, you know what? If I can't stay on my feet, we gonna.
Keke Palmer
Cause these.
Weezy
I cheat on my teeth every time we leave. Kiki, you pregnant? Last one we had not know why you had a big Jack then She's talking about my feet. Only fans my feet. And then I'm on the. On the way home thinking, does she want to leave her job to sell her feet? The confidence you have about the feet,
Mandy B
by the way you come in here with socks is crazy.
Keke Palmer
Oh, I hope my feet are not ashy.
Mandy B
We got lotion. You can Here we go.
Keke Palmer
The feet.
Weezy
What nigga name you talking about that bitch?
Keke Palmer
This was actually Goonies never say die. Yeah. Because Shout out. Shout out to Steven Spielberg. Goonies is one of the best movies that have ever hit the world. Goonies Never say down here it's our time, up there is their time. But down here, yes.
Weezy
This is why they think you don't wanna fuck.
Mandy B
Because we be all this.
Keke Palmer
Can we just talk about why funny girls aren't in like give em a fucking break. Have they never heard of Jenny McCarthy? Have they never heard of Sandra Bullock? Have they never heard of.
Weezy
She had to adopt kids.
Mandy B
And I was about to say do we know of them to be in relationships?
Weezy
But keke wait, you're hotter though. So that is where. Stop. I think they just be like fuck it, I'm gonna deal with it. You know, my man told me one day because I was joking too much on the third date. He was like jokes. I think he no, I just want to be my home.
Mandy B
There's only. There's one funny woman. Nope. There's only one funny woman that I know all these men would drop their draws for. And it's surprising my ex. My homegirl husband. No, this is who they say oh, oh, Samor.
Keke Palmer
Oh, some more Samurai all the man. Wait. Cause you know what her jokes is?
Mandy B
What?
Keke Palmer
Her jokes is all about sex. And they want to know what it's about.
Mandy B
You got the samora light coming.
Keke Palmer
I look like. Cause wasn't she on one of the Fridays they was like, you look like the auntie Friday. Some more.
Weezy
She was. I thought wait, that was Jackie on
Keke Palmer
one of the Fridays she was dating the uncle.
Mandy B
I think so body at the neck period.
Weezy
Was it some more.
Mandy B
That was. She had the short hair. She's always had the short hair. But Samor is a funny woman that laughs a man out his drawing.
Keke Palmer
I love her down.
Mandy B
So samora.
Weezy
That's usually Samor. You know it's crazy because the short haircut ain't gonna bring you the penis if it's gonna bring you the.
Keke Palmer
I have no problem with the ladies. That's true. Oh everything girls. I mean it's like hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Slow down, that's moving too fast. Fingers keep slipping, trying to get that ass keep being hard head I'm making. Get on with.
Weezy
It's only. You gotta take a lot.
Keke Palmer
Why would I do that?
Weezy
Why?
Keke Palmer
This is a tism.
Mandy B
All right, on that note, I really
Keke Palmer
love you guys real bad.
Mandy B
Thank you so much for sitting with us and having this conversation. We need to have more like this. Next time we will have the charcuterie down there.
Keke Palmer
But because of my need to watch
Mandy B
this and eat charcuterie, period, and have these conversations.
Weezy
Eat charcute.
Mandy B
And we encourage you to talk about who you sleeping with. If it's good, the positions, y', all, and then how y' all are safe while doing it.
Keke Palmer
That's very good.
Weezy
You know, if you want some more, go head on over to Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever. Get no holds barred. It's a New York Times bestseller. Oh, no.
Mandy B
And we also have her book, too, Master.
Keke Palmer
There we go as well.
Weezy
That at the airport. Okay.
Mandy B
Help me.
Keke Palmer
Yes, yes. That airport is a prize position. I've heard.
Mandy B
See? No, it is. That's why we didn't put, like, you
Weezy
in there to the depock and stuff.
Keke Palmer
Come on. Why I done made my way over Depot.
Mandy B
Yeah, no, we gotta skip him, girl. He was in the files anyways. Let's go on, y'. All. Thank y' all so much. Make sure you subscribe to the Patreon and make sure you check out, baby. This is Keke Palmer.
Weezy
When you have it on.
Keke Palmer
Oh, my gosh, literally. I'm gonna have it the next time that we shoot. So how about in. Are you guys free around May sometime?
Mandy B
Yep. Done and is. Bye, guys. Thank y' all for tuning in to another episode of Decisions, Decisions.
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Yes,
Mandy B
it's me again.
Keke Palmer
We prepped.
Care for the Culture Host
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Keke Palmer
This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Original Air Date: March 30, 2026
Hosts: Mandii B & WeezyWTF
Guest: Keke Palmer
This candid and laughter-filled episode brings back actress, singer, and all-around mogul Keke Palmer for her third visit to the show. The hosts, Mandii B and WeezyWTF, dig deep into Keke’s post-motherhood transformation, reclaiming sexiness, shifting boundaries, and the new challenges of modern dating. The trio also explores wider subjects: body confidence, the complexity of wellness, parasocial relationships, the nuances of sexual safety, and the power of authentic conversations among women. True to the show’s spirit, the discussion is raw, hilarious, vulnerable, and emboldening.
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Celebrity Invitations:
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Tiffany Haddish Fixes Keke’s $40k Dress on the Spot with Superglue
[06:04–08:29] – A hilarious, real-life display of female friendship under pressure.
Keke’s Reaction to a Public Marriage Proposal at SXSW
[41:19–45:00] – Candid, emotional conversation about safety, empathy, and the challenges of public life.
Bread-Crumbing Skit & Honest Reflection on Women’s Agency in Casual Dating
[23:14–25:47] – The team flips the usual script, calling out how both genders perpetuate dating cycles.
Yet another energetic, insightful, and taboo-busting episode, this conversation with Keke Palmer illuminates the evolving realities of body image, sexuality, dating, and self-care for Black women and beyond. The episode arms listeners with humor, wisdom, and practical advice—reminding all to embrace their truth, set standards, and advocate for their own wellbeing.
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