Selective Ignorance: Ep. 49 | Hablar Mucha Mierda!

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Selective Ignorance: Ep. 49 | Hablar Mucha Mierda!"

Podcast: Decisions, Decisions
Produced By: The Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartPodcasts
Hosts: Mandii B, King Howard, Jason Rodriguez
Date: February 3, 2026

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Overview

This episode of "Selective Ignorance" dives deep into contemporary social issues, media freedom, the state of hip hop's activism, internet outrage, and the complexities of community trust in an era fraught with controversy and emotional turmoil. Mandii B, together with King Howard and Jason Rodriguez, deliver candid, unfiltered banter, sharing personal viewpoints on the week's most pressing headlines and the shifting nature of public conversations.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Emotional Weight of Current Events

• Mandii B opens the episode expressing fatigue from "doom scrolling" and the relentless sadness in world news.
  • "With all of the doom scrolling, with all of the news, with all of the sadness, with everything that's happening in this world, why do we have to be here to talk about it? Could it just be rainbows and butterflies? I guess not." [01:22]

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2. Bringing Shame Back: The Baton Rouge School Counselor Case

• Mandii recounts a case where a counselor is exposed via DMs for inappropriate messages to a minor, resulting in rapid public shaming and the counselor's suicide.
  • "So literally sharing how quickly this happened in my group chat... and so when the news came out that he unalived himself... I was like, good for him. There was no empathy. And a part of me actually felt like, I hope other people with nasty thoughts saw how quickly... this happened." [08:07]
• Hosts debate the line between accountability and mental health, and societal quickness to celebrate punitive "justice."
  • Jason: "All in all, it's a net positive, right? Like... I hope that if somebody does have nasty thoughts... maybe I should off myself too and just get up out of here."
  • King Howard: "But that's cowardice though, right? Cause he offed himself and he never had to deal with the shame." [10:03]

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3. Digital Footprints and Accountability

• Discussion pivots to the prevalence of incriminating digital evidence (Epstein files, Bill Gates rumors) and the absurdity of leaving illegal intentions "in writing."
  • "Did these niggas not have a phone? Why was this shit written down?" - Mandii [12:04]
  • Jason clarifies that many tips in such files are unverified calls, not evidence. [12:27]

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4. Community Trust vs. Stranger Danger

• The case of a Detroit bus driver (man picking up cold kids during a deep freeze) splits the internet between champions of "community" and those wary of child predators.
  • Mandii: "But do you want to know what's crazy about that? As I'm thinking, do we vet our Uber drivers?... We get into cars with strangers." [16:29]
  • King: "I think it's a testament to the times we're living in... with all sex trafficking kid, all the things that's happening..." [22:24]
  • Group reflects on shifting public trust, how the era and location affect perceptions, and how societal values have shifted. [22:32]

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5. Freedom of the Press Under Attack

• A significant segment discusses the recent arrests of four journalists (Don Lemon, Georgia Fort, Treherne Jean Cruz, Jamel Lundy) for covering protests in Minnesota.
  • "To see that now journalists are being essentially attacked. And it's very purposeful. It's crystal clear that they wanted Don Lemon specifically." - Mandii [25:32], [25:38]
  • Jason: "Normally those are like backhand, clandestine moves... But now they're just coming out in public... saying, we want these specific people arrested and investigated for doing journalism." [27:27]

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6. Hip Hop’s Silence on Social Issues

• A powerful segment deconstructs Joe Budden’s criticism of modern hip hop’s lack of outspokenness in moments of injustice.
  • "You is pawns, pussies and puppets. All of y'all don't have a voice to say. Everybody. It's too silent for me... when you see Americans getting executed on American soil by America and then they go on TV and tell you... what you just saw is not what is." – Joe Budden clip [29:15]
  • Mandii: "I don't want to hear from these niggas that drink lean all day, that got five, eleven baby mamas and broken homes... But we saw during BLM... so many people that now they have the proximity to whiteness because of their bank accounts that they genuinely feel like this is not their problem." [31:27]
  • King: "We have artists who fit that messaging that we don't support... It wasn't the sexy thing..." [36:56]
  • Hosts debate whether all artists have a responsibility to speak up or only those informed and invested.

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7. Nicki Minaj, Rappers, and Political Alignments

• Panel reacts with frustration and sarcasm to the visual of Nicki Minaj and Donald Trump together, alongside other artists aligning with MAGA or apathy.
  • "She single handedly has tarnished her legacy." - Mandii [46:37]
  • "If they had a MAGA spinoff called, like, Slaved by the Bell... Nikki would fall right in line." - Jason [45:51]
  • Discussion broadens to the role of celebrity influence, cult of personality, and the persistence of problematic allegiances in hip hop.

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8. Candace Owens, Leaks & Media Manipulation

• The group discusses Candace Owens leaking a voicemail from Charlie Kirk's widow, revealing her focus on merch sales after her husband’s death.
  • "I'm like, she was assassinated. Murdered in front of... she was just... couldn't be more happy. And I was just like, this is weird as fuck." – Mandy [51:56]
  • Jason: "This is the America that's always existed because this is people. This is human beings. Niggas have been killing each other since the day there was niggas." [52:38]

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9. Idolization in Sports: Derrick Rose’s Jersey Retirement

• A brief, lighter moment on Derrick Rose’s jersey retirement. He declines a statue, preferring not to be idolized:
  • Rose: "You could do the statue of a family crest, but I don't want no statue of myself that I feel like that's idolizing... I don't want nobody to idolize me." [56:30]
  • The hosts discuss the need for actual achievement (rings) for statues and Rose’s humility.

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10. Super Bowl, ICE, and Social Tensions

• The crew predicts social and political tensions at the Super Bowl, with ICE announcing a presence, Bad Bunny performing, and the impact on global events like the World Cup.
  • "Who's gonna wanna come and attend anything in the US if this is... What if ICE has whatever presence outside of the Super Bowl?" – Mandii [60:15]

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11. Platonic Friendships: Cam Newton's 'No Woman Friends' Take

• Extended debate over Cam Newton's viral take that men can't be just friends with attractive women—he claims he has "no self control."
  • "I don't have no attractive woman that I'm cool with, that I do not have plans on stabbing." – Cam Newton [71:22]
  • Jason critiques: "He sounds like a loser to me. That just sounds like some loser shit..." [73:03]
  • King: "He knows that good looking women are his weaknesses. That's why he chooses to say, yo, I can't. I don't have no fucking couth. So I just stay away from it." [75:14]
  • The topic is both mocked and probed for truths about male friendships and boundaries.

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12. Lighter Moments & Closing

• The conversation turns to playful debate about J. Cole albums and upcoming music lists, ending the show with laughs and camaraderie despite the episode's heavy themes.

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Notable Quotes

• "Life comes at you fast." – Mandii B [07:38]
• "If you wasn't shit when you was breathing the air, I’m gonna feel the same way about you when you get popped or you die." – Jason Rodriguez [11:08]
• "Politics is literally pop culture, goddammit." – Mandii B [28:10]
• "People are having a very tough time saying… I like some of the things that this artist does or whatever the case is. But this shit was lame." – Jason Rodriguez [48:17]
• "This is the America that I know. This is the America that's always existed because this is people." – Jason Rodriguez [52:38]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Opening and Emotional State of the World: 00:00–05:05
• School Counselor Scandal & Shame Culture: 05:05–12:11
• Digital Footprints & Internet Outrage: 12:11–14:26
• Detroit Bus Driver Community Dilemma: 14:36–23:01
• Journalists Arrested in Minnesota: 24:02–28:10
• Hip Hop, Activism, and Joe Budden Critique: 29:15–34:54
• Celebrities & Political Realignment: 44:01–50:12
• Candace Owens Leak, Cult of Personality: 50:40–53:16
• Sports – Derrick Rose, Super Bowl, ICE: 54:31–62:09
• Friendship and Attraction – Cam Newton Controversy: 69:14–77:40

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Tone & Flow

The episode is raw, irreverent, and emotionally charged, staying true to the hosts’ mission of “pushing boundaries” and challenging societal taboos. With humor and vulnerability, the conversations oscillate between somber reflection and sharp wit, all in the spirit of unfiltered authenticity.

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For New Listeners

This episode offers a vivid cross-section of today’s social climate—covering everything from national scandals to everyday dilemmas and generational shifts in trust and activism. The hosts' candid debates, memorable one-liners, and willingness to “talk mucha mierda” will leave you informed and entertained, even amidst difficult subject matter.

Transcript

[Mandy B]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human Olivia Culpo here to tell you all about the launch of the new Abercrombie spring denim collection made the way denim should feel. Their denim has always been a staple in my wardrobe and has a wide range of fits, styles and washes. Every jean is available in both their classic fit and viral Curve Love Shop in the app, online and in stores. Hey guys. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. I'm your girl, Mandy B. And today is giving heavy. I actually don't know how we're gonna get through all of the topics today. At one point in this episode, I may just crash out and say f it because that's how I'm feeling. With all of the doom scrolling, with all of the news, with all of the sadness, with everything that's happening in this world, why do we have to be here to talk about it? Could it just be rainbows and butterflies? I guess not. So this week in this Is America, we're getting into how they're swooping the journalists off the street. That's right, we're getting into that. Another unfortunately, we are talking about the orange Cheeto they're eating the cats and the Trinidadian who is shucking and jiving for that gold card that really apparently ain't getting her nowhere. And what else in this Is America this week? All of the things that are going on that we kind of don't want to talk about, but we're going to get into it. And then this is not a sports podcast. However, we are talking a little bit of tennis. We're giving you our super bowl predictions and all of the things that are happening in the world, y'. All. I don't understand how we're here today, but we are. And I am joined by one half of my super producer, I Got a king in the building over there shaking his head. How are you doing?

[King Howard]

Walikum asalaam.

[Mandy B]

Why did. Now, you know. I'm not gonna say it back because I. I don't know how to say.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She was ready to butcher that.

[Mandy B]

See, I can't even. I don't know how to say it. Asalam Alam.

[King Howard]

Actually, I said it wrong. It's supposed to be as salaam alaikum. And then you.

[Mandy B]

Asalaam alaikum.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[King Howard]

You would reply, I got that one right. Walaikum asalam.

[Mandy B]

I never heard of walaikum as salaam.

[King Howard]

Well, it's how you pronounce it. Like, I just try to make it easy for you. You just said it.

[Mandy B]

Walaikum as salaam.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There you go.

[King Howard]

Salaam. Not salami.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Salami.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. Oh, wait, they definitely. Salami.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's not even.

[Mandy B]

They don't even say that.

[King Howard]

We embrace all religions, walks of life, creeds, nationalities.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No. God bless everybody.

[King Howard]

Creeds and all of this stuff, do we.

[Mandy B]

That's real. All lives matter.

[King Howard]

No, ice cold. Oh, ice cold.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Ice cold.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No ice. Ice cold.

[Mandy B]

Ice cold.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Ice cold. Shout out to ice cold.

[Mandy B]

Jason is up in Jersey. He had a deadline on a magazine that he's working on. So send him love. While he's battling the snow and all the weather's up there, up north. And then, of course, on joining by the headline king himself, we got Judge.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Building Pie blessing, all the app niggas.

[Mandy B]

There we go.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What up, what up, what up, what.

[Mandy B]

Up, what up, what up, guys? Okay, I do want to let y' all know I am no longer bleeding, but I'm very emotional, and I don't know why. I really don't know why.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I mean, it's understandable. It's a lot going on.

[Mandy B]

It's a lot going on. It is so sad out here in these streets, man.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This is dirty.

[King Howard]

I think it's the transition from Mandy Taylor Greene.

[Mandy B]

Here we go.

[King Howard]

To the revolutionary.

[Mandy B]

Why are we doing that?

[King Howard]

Cause Mandy's about to turn revolutionary.

[Mandy B]

No, I. You know. Yes, I am.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The B stands for Black Panther. That's what we doing.

[King Howard]

Mandy B. Nah, it's the fire within. It's like, what the fuck?

[Mandy B]

Hold on. Yomi laughing too long. Yo, we got yomi on the board.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, yeah. Yo, yo, yo.

[Mandy B]

That was way too loud.

[King Howard]

Love it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We need that. That's good energy right there.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. No, I'm excited about the energy. I guess we'll start with our ignorant takes of the week and here's the thing. I do have emotions, right?

[King Howard]

Of course.

[Mandy B]

But this week, I felt like, damn, this is crazy that I feel this way. But I do. And so I wanted to talk about bringing shame back. Mm. Because let me give you guys a story, by the way. This is what lands in my group chats. So I was on Twitter two weeks ago. This is how quick life happens, right? So I'm on Twitter two weeks ago, and there is DMs that are posted by a woman sharing a school counselor in her niece's DMs. The niece is 14 years old. The school counselor is a grown ass man. So she literally posts the DMs on Twitter. And in real time is like, Internet. Y' all know what to do. Very next day.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hmm.

[Mandy B]

He's suspended.

[King Howard]

Of course.

[Mandy B]

Next week, this week, he unalied to himself that quick mercy put him in the dirt, literally. And so, mind you, this landed in my group chat. And I'm listening, and I'm sharing it with my friends, and I'm like, girl, niggas is nasty. Da, da, da, da. So literally sharing how quickly this happened in my group chat. And so when the news came out that he unalived himself, mind you, also really weird. Unalived himself on a school ground.

[Jason Rodriguez]

On a different school ground.

[Mandy B]

On a different school ground. Like, what type of fucking poetic bullshit is this motherfucker on? Weird. So he unalives himself on a school that's about to be demolished. And so his picture has been plastered all over the Internet. You know who I'm talking about? And it dropped into the group chat again.

[King Howard]

And I was like, how egregious was the text message? I mean, it's all egregious.

[Mandy B]

Oh, no, no, no, no. It was trying. It was nasty. He was, like, kind of trying, I think, offering her a ride, like, saying she looks good. And like, it was completely inappropriate.

[King Howard]

What city?

[Mandy B]

Hold on, let me pull it up. Cause I'm gonna say his name. I'm about to say not to say his name.

[King Howard]

Like, red button, brown and yellow. Who's that fellow?

[Jason Rodriguez]

And that's.

[King Howard]

Well, I wanna know, you know?

[Jason Rodriguez]

But to your point, like, that's not even.

[Mandy B]

This took place, mind you. Baton rouge.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Damn.

[Mandy B]

So, L.A. sorry, Kennedy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

My bad.

[Mandy B]

Player. Yeah. So they found him. Damn. At that. But it was just interesting to me for a lot of things, right? First off, whew, does life come at you fast? Second, though, I'm like, damn, his decisions cost this. And then once the whole world knew that he was a nasty motherfucker he offed himself. He offed himself. And so a part of me was like, in the group chat, this is my. I was like, good for him.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

There was no empathy. And a part of me actually felt like, I hope other people with nasty thoughts saw how quickly pack it up, this happened. And I literally was like, this is why we have to bring Shane back. Right? In my mind, I'm just like, I hope someone saw this and they decided not to press send in that little girl's DMs. I hope that somebody saw this and was like, you know what? I'm not living my life right. And if my own demons come out, this is kind of the result. And I was just like, you know what? Damn, this happened fast. It was just. I think it was just crazy to me that I saw the DMs, Internet, do what you do.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You saw the whole thing play out in a week.

[Mandy B]

In a week those DMs came out and in a week he was gone. And I was just like, oh, wow. Like, that's insane. Life is crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All in all, it's a net positive, right? Like, I agree with you. Like, I hope that there's two sides to this. I hope that, yeah, maybe somebody saw this and decided they're gonna not do that. But I also hope that if somebody does have nasty thoughts and they're about to do the same thing that he's doing, I hope they look at it and be like, maybe I should off myself too and just get up out of here. Listen, like, put yourself in a pack, bro. Like, we don't need. Like, I don't even want you in prison. I don't want my tax dollars going to give you three hots in a cot.

[Mandy B]

And I think that a part of me watching that, it was interesting because I was just like, damn, who knows what he could have instilled on people had those DMs not come out. Who knows what other little girls he was looking to talk to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yup.

[Mandy B]

And I saw Kevin Gates sit with Shannon Sharpe.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B]

On his pod and talk about the trauma he's endured as a young man who was also sexually assaulted. And I was just like, yeah, we gotta get these nasty mother outta here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Put him in the dirt.

[King Howard]

But that's cowardice though, right? Cause he offed himself and he never had to deal with the shame.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, that's the cowardly power. That's the cowardly.

[King Howard]

So it's like he avoided. I guess in his mind, he had.

[Mandy B]

A week of shame.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. I was gonna say he had a week, a short period of shame, but still, that's not enough.

[King Howard]

But he knew this shit was wild from the jump, right? So you gotta deal with what comes with that, Brody.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And how do you think that, like.

[King Howard]

Cause that girl is fucked up forever now she gotta.

[Mandy B]

The parents, well, the DMs. I don't know if anything happened, took place. I don't think it got that far.

[King Howard]

Well, just to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Just to imagine. Oh, wow.

[King Howard]

My teacher would expose. And now he's not here because of this scenari that's gonna be on her mind now for, you know, and her parents gotta deal with that and walk her through that, through life.

[Mandy B]

You're right.

[King Howard]

But he's not here to deal with none of it no more. We can't be like, aha, yo, you bitch ass. He's gone, right?

[Mandy B]

It just kind of reminded me of all the conversations around when Charlie Kirk passed, like, we should never celebrate death, quote unquote. And that's why I brought it into my ignorance. Because I was just like, nigga, I'll get him out of here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I never subscribed to that. I never subscribed to that whole. You don't speak ill of the dead. No, nigga, if you wasn't shit when you was breathing the air, I'm gonna feel the same way about you when you get popped or you die or whatever happens to you, happens to you. I'm not gonna change the story. The story is the story. You wrote the story, not me.

[Mandy B]

You wrote it. That's what it is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm just reading the story that you wrote, the book that you wrote. Here it is right here.

[King Howard]

Like, if that girl, uncles and brothers or whatever from Baton Rouge was gonna whoop his ass, he avoided that.

[Mandy B]

He was gonna get that ass whoop.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't understand how these people think they can keep getting away with it. I understand that these are sick people who probably not thinking about consequences, but so many teachers at this point and school officials have been outed for this same thing. And you left a digital footprint of the shit you like. It's one thing.

[Mandy B]

First off. First off, we gonna get into digital footprints later. Yeah, them emails is crazy. From the FC file, I was like, did these niggas not have a phone?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't know Morse code.

[Mandy B]

Like, why was this shit written down?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Why are you putting this shit in a place that never delays?

[Mandy B]

And then I think the shit with the Bill gates and the STDs, that was like a draft from. I was like, why is this being Written down.

[King Howard]

Do you think those files. I think those files are compromised because they've been sitting so long. So it's like, who knows what's the truth and what's not?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, there's a distinction to be made, too. Like, in those files. Some of the stuff that's in those files comes from what they call, like a. Like a crisis intake form. Right, And a crisis intake form is basically just someone calling a hotline and saying whatever they're saying. So it doesn't mean that there was investigated. It doesn't mean that there was any resources spent on finding out what it was. This is just someone saying something on the telephone, and they have to make it a record of that.

[Mandy B]

Is the hotline still open to calls, like. Cause how the hell. How the hell did JC And Pusha T just get added into, like, where the hotline? What's the matter?

[King Howard]

It's not random.

[Mandy B]

What's another Cause, nigga, I got some niggas. I want to put it up in there. What's the hotline do? We got the hotline. Look, you really googling it. We don't have journalism Jason today, but I need to know if this hotline is still open and if new findings are getting into these files.

[King Howard]

That mean it's compromised.

[Mandy B]

It is. It's given. It's very compromised. It's very compromised.

[King Howard]

We need a podcast, A Potter hotline. I would love that.

[Mandy B]

Okay, calm down for everybody. Look at you wanting a snitch.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All right, it looks like there is a. Well, there's electronic tip form. So if you have things you want to report, you can report the. Go through the electronic tip form. If you want to snitch on WI fi. If you want to get the WI fi snitching, you could do that, but the actual number is 1-800- call FBI.

[Mandy B]

Get the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, wait.

[Mandy B]

Is that really what it is?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's really what it is. If you. If. If you believe you are a victim or witness of a hate crime, we encourage you to report it to the FBI by calling 1-800- call FBI or submit a tip@FBI tips.FBI.gov oh, but that's.

[Mandy B]

Like, not for the Epstein files.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, no, this. But this. Those. That files just came from an FBI someone just calling the hotline and saying, I want to say this about this 1-800-Crime Stoppers.

[Mandy B]

Why are we.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, pretty much that's what it. That's what it amounts to. And they have to make a record of it because it's a real government entity. But that doesn't mean anything is going to happen.

[Mandy B]

Oh my goodness.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So like, plus, with that other, with the, with the. Well, we'll get into the, I guess the, the other part of it later. But yeah, there's some, there's some suspects.

[Mandy B]

You had an ignorant moment this week.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So it's not really my ignorance, it's actually somebody else's ignorance. But like, when I read this story, I was like, bro, what did you think was gonna happen? Like, I don't understand. So there was a Detroit daycare bus driver, okay? You know, Detroit right now is freezing all over the place. It's cold as hell outside. So this daycare bus driver calls himself being a good Samaritan, okay, And goes around picking up kids who are walking to school in the freezing cold. So his explanation is that he is just, he felt bad. He's driving around, he's looking at all these kids, it's zero degrees in Detroit. He thought, hey, I got a big ass bus, I can take these kids to school. Whoopi, Whoopi, whoop de whoop.

[Mandy B]

Now let me ask you a question. Does this cause a problem if it's an old white lady doing it? Like, is it because this is a black man picking up little kids that even the thought of it like this grown ass man going around picking up kids, that sounds weird. But if it's an old white woman also being a good Samaritan, does she get looked at as the creep picking up kids?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think it's a fair question to some degree. But also like, who the. To me, it's weird for anybody to be doing this shit. Cause like, what are you doing picking up kids? Like, I agree with you though it would probably read different in the media. Like, I'm sure there's someone who might try to speak.

[Mandy B]

It might not be an issue.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's a feel good story.

[Mandy B]

Well, it would be a feel good story.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, the reaction to it was the funny part because some people in the comments and the replies on Twitter and stuff are like, y' all always talking about, y' all want community, y' all want people to come in and help. And whoopi, whoopi, whoop. And now somebody come in and help. And now y' all talking shit about the man. And other people are like, this is fucking weird. Like, I don't know who you are. You haven't been vetted, you don't have insurance, you haven't been. No one knows who you are. You're just hired by daycare.

[Mandy B]

But do you want to know what's Crazy about that. As I'm thinking, do we vet our Uber drivers? We get into cars with strangers. And maybe because I'm an Uber, like, I ride Uber. A lot of those are independent contractors.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's fair.

[Mandy B]

And it's why so many of them also have had cases and all that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But at least on Uber, you gotta be 18, I think. Don't you have to be 18 to have an Uber account? Or am I. Did I make that up? It's Uber Teen.

[Mandy B]

Wait, what?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That sounds even.

[Mandy B]

I don't want.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No.

[King Howard]

Wait, is that, like, parental controls?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Are people vetted for Uber?

[Mandy B]

Like, oh, I ain't gonna lie.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's interesting.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna hold you today.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I didn't realize that was even a thing.

[Mandy B]

Let me tell you, it's Atlanta at this point. So my Uber eats groceries. Last night, they just left them across the street. Set my groceries on a bench. Cause they couldn't find my building. Left my groceries on a bench in front of a restaurant. Why would you do that? And then this morning, I have two bags and a whole box getting into the Uber. And he like, hey, Shawty, you got lil. You here for the lil.

[King Howard]

So we already had.

[Mandy B]

Hey, shawty. Hey, Shoddy Amanda. Y', all.

[King Howard]

Y'.

[Mandy B]

All. And then y'.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All.

[Mandy B]

No, literally. Hold on, hold on. And then I'm sitting aside, he like, hey, Shawna, can I put my seat back? Lead it like this. Lead it like this. Just driving, mind you. Guess what's playing Beyonce. It's like, I never said yes. I'm like, what is happening?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That sound like some real Atlanta. Childish Gambino. Donald Glover, Atlanta. Why did she.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. I was like, bro, I am just getting sick of Atlanta and this, mind you, a woman left my groceries across the street.

[King Howard]

That was the accident.

[Mandy B]

It was a woman.

[King Howard]

What kind of woman?

[Mandy B]

Like me.

[King Howard]

Which part? Oh, she.

[Mandy B]

That's the thing, too. I be like, ooh, I wanna talk shit. But it's my people.

[King Howard]

I know. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And I hate this for us.

[King Howard]

I think they got some kind of app where they find your name. They're like, oh, I want Mandy.

[Mandy B]

At this point, I'm being trolled.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

The universe has tested my fucking pa. But, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. If I was a child, having to walk in the snow and the weather like it is now, back to the guy in Detroit, I would be grateful. As long as he ain't trying to touch me.

[King Howard]

Right?

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. And so this story reminded me of a story that I covered probably back in like 20, 22 of this lady in Baltimore owned a daycare. She shot her husband.

[Mandy B]

Oh. For molesting the kids.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Shotiari Williams, right.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And he was the same thing. He was a daycare bus driver. He was a former cop.

[Mandy B]

That is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He's a former cop. He was a former police officer. Oh, no, no.

[Mandy B]

Let's be very clear. We talked about it because. We talked about it on Decisions, decisions. Because she had. I understand you being upset to find out that your husband is fucking molesting children.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Molesting children. Multiple children. Multiple children watching porn while he's driving a bus, showing the kids the porn.

[Mandy B]

She got charged with that?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, she had to sit down. She just got out. She got out last year.

[Mandy B]

Oh, she got out? Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She's on the streets now.

[Mandy B]

Oh, wow.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, she got out.

[Mandy B]

Cause he didn't do that much time.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, he didn't die. He got shot. Oh, so it was an assault. She. I think. I think she got off. I think the attempted murder didn't stick. I think she got booked for assault.

[Mandy B]

Shout out to everybody who was on that jury.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Cause I would have been like, not guilty.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Not guilty.

[Mandy B]

Not guilty of honor.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't care what you're talking about. Like, she got three cis. We're not doing this today.

[Mandy B]

That does. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. But she's back out on the streets now, and it is what it is. But when I saw that, I thought about that case, and I was like, yeah, I just wouldn't like.

[Mandy B]

So I'm curious, is he being charged with anything? Clearly, this made the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He's not being charged with anything. I think the police chief came out and said basically, like, hey, bro, we understand that. Here we go. So Labrit Jackson is the public safety chief of police, and the statement that released was removing this gentleman from the equation. We don't have any information or evidence to suggest he had any nefarious intention.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But we're really focusing on sending the message to our young people not to get in vehicles with strangers.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna hold you. This how I know the kids is different today. Oh.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B]

The kids is just different today. Cause don't talk to strangers is a thing that was ingrained in you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's like the first thing you learn.

[Mandy B]

The first thing you learn as a child.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Don't talk to none of these niggas at all. Don't say nothing to nobody.

[Mandy B]

Sex trafficking, abductions, the ways that we do. Hear of what happening, of what's happening in this world. I don't understand how a Child does just get into a car with this man.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, and one of the points that the public safety chief was making was that it's like a lot of kids are taught to be polite to adults. You don't speak foul to adults. You respect adults. Right. So the point was you're putting kids in a position to where almost like, even if they don't want to get on the bus with you, they might feel like they have to. Or they're supposed to be polite or be nice, depending on how they're taught. And they might just feel like, ah, I can't tell this adult, no. You know, kids don't have agency. They don't know how to act in some of these situations. So he was like, don't even put kids in that situation on top of all the other shit that might be wrong with it. Like, don't put a child in that situation. So it's fair to me. But it was just interesting that people were actually arguing hard, defending this guy, doing this. And it's just like, I wouldn't put my chance.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna hold you. This is one of those where it's like A. I'm 50, 50 on it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's dicey. It's dicey, but it's just like, I just can't trust these people. These people have not. The public has not earned.

[Mandy B]

I don't trust anybody right now.

[King Howard]

I think it's a testament to the times we're living in. I think that would apply. It'd probably be more acceptable, you know, in a different era.

[Jason Rodriguez]

In the 80s and 90s, this would have flew.

[King Howard]

If somebody picked up your kid and it was unusual. It was because of inclement weather. More than likely people know who the gentleman is.

[Mandy B]

I was gonna say in a smaller town, going back to community. He did that because he no longer. Kids in the neighborhood, Correct? Yeah.

[King Howard]

But now with all sex trafficking kid, all the things that's happening. And when I say the new authorities, baby, you don't know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Welcome to the A building.

[King Howard]

I'm Hans Charles. I'm Menelik Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Have both been assassinated.

[King Howard]

And black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia, at Martin's.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Alma mater, Morehouse column, the students had their own protest. It featured two prominent figures in black history, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.

[King Howard]

To be in what we really thought was a revolution.

[Mandy B]

I mean, people were dying 1968.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.

[Mandy B]

The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.

[King Howard]

This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should. And it will blow your mind. Listen to the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A building on the iHeartRadio app, Apple.

[King Howard]

Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mandy B]

This is America. And I guess we could get right into it's.

[King Howard]

But this is unfortunate.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Okay. Well, let's get into. First things first. This week, the whole Internet. My timeline specifically, was ablaze with the four journalists that were taken into custody. They all have been released, but I wanna say their names. So Don Lemon, Georgia Fort Treherne, Jean Cruz, and Jamel Lundy. They are the journalists that were arrested in connection to their coverage of what's taking place in Minnesota via the protest.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Inside a city church.

[Mandy B]

Yes, St. Paul.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, St. Paul.

[Mandy B]

St. Paul church. And it was a lot. I think it landed in the group chat almost immediately when Don Lemon posted that he was arrested.

[Jason Rodriguez]

A statement from his lawyer.

[Mandy B]

From his lawyer. Statement from his lawyer.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And.

[Mandy B]

And there was a lot. There was a lot taking place this week. Because where I don't identify as a journalist, I hop on this goddamn mic weekly, I hop on my Instagram live, I'm in the comments. And to see that now journalists are being essentially attacked. And it's very purposeful.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, it's.

[Mandy B]

It's very purposeful.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Very, very personal. It's not even a thing that you can debate if it's on purpose or not.

[Mandy B]

No, it's crystal clear.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's crystal clear that they wanted Don Lemon specifically. All these people, but Don Lemon, they wanted that name.

[Mandy B]

And it's weird because I wonder if Nikki has something to do with that too. Cause they was just beefing last week, the time.

[King Howard]

The timeline is crazy.

[Mandy B]

The timeline is kind of crazy. It is, but also to see. Didn't they go and arrest him at, like, he was at an awards?

[Jason Rodriguez]

He was, yeah. From what I understand, he was covering the Grammys. And I couldn't tell if he was at the event or on the way to the event, but I think he was arrested at a hotel lobby.

[Mandy B]

This reminded me so much on an even larger scale of what we just discussed with Jimmy Kimmel.

[King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

And to know that the freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of freedom to talk and have an opinion is now essentially being stripped from us.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. You are putting yourself at some level of risk. So I wanna say this. The FBI, the CIA, government agencies have been surveilling and doing this kind of reconnaissance on reporters and all that kind of stuff.

[King Howard]

Forever.

[Mandy B]

Forever.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Decades.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So this is the idea of this isn't a new concept that said, I don't know in a modern time that we've ever seen it be this blatant flagrant. And yeah, like, normally those are like backhand clandestine rooms. They do this kind of stuff and you hear about it in reports after the fact or whatever the case is. But now they're just coming out in public. The FCC boss, Trump himself, his administration, like, they're coming out and saying, we want these specific people arrested and investigated for doing journalism.

[Mandy B]

I will say, I love that Don Lemon came back out and said, talking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Cash shit, pretty much that.

[Mandy B]

You ain't gonna shut me up, motherfucker. I'mma keep talking. I'mma keep getting the information out there. And yeah, it's interesting too, because I sat on the phone with my homegirl and I was like, you know what's crazy? When I was growing up, when my mom would have her friends over or my mom would go over to my auntie house, I don't remember them sitting around talking about politics. And now it has been so much of an everyday conversation amongst me, my friends, strangers at the bar. Like, politics is literally pop culture. Goddammit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Like, it's so ingrained into what the conversation is to where it's draining, it's exhausting because also it's so emotionally charged that it becomes difficult to just talk to anybody about it. Cause, boy, if they have a take that you feel like they're on the other side. It's just all of this is just so divisive. And I did wanna talk about it. I have a clip because I was listening to the Joe Budden pod this week, and I did see Anthony Edwards and Wimbandea.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, Wembanyama, Victor Wemb.

[Mandy B]

All I know is, listen.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Called that man an asshole dishwasher. He ain't crazy.

[Mandy B]

I just know he ain't give Britney Spears a picture in Vegas when she wanted one. That's all I know. Okay, but the two of them have spoken out kind of about Minnesota. But can we play the clip? There's a clip about his take on.

[King Howard]

Sickening to think of the hip hop I came from and the hip hop I was introduced to. And think of the hip hop that other people were having introduced to and how silent hip hop is on certain matters. You is pawns, pussies and puppets. All of y' all don't have a voice to say. Everybody It's. It's too silent for me. It's too silent when you see Americans getting executed on American soil by America and then they go on TV and tell you every reason that what you just saw is not what is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No time in my life could that.

[King Howard]

Happen and hip hop not be in an uproar.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I disagree.

[King Howard]

I'm wasn't asking you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

If you read the comments.

[King Howard]

They saying, I don't give a fuck. These white people, they don't come to our back.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They don't come to support us when.

[King Howard]

We going through trials and tribulations.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Fuck them.

[King Howard]

I'm not really having like a music. And what. Hey, what's your opinion on this conversation?

[Jason Rodriguez]

We have too many voices.

[King Howard]

And if all of them are silent, I'm going to assume some of them.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Are and have been complicit with what is going on.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, man, let's eat this on there's thoughts.

[Mandy B]

Okay. And here's my thing, right? We talk about taking the microphones away from people. Not everyone needs a voice. And I'm gonna try to say this in the least problematic fashion.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Here it goes.

[Mandy B]

Have you heard some of these niggas talk? Oh, no, that's hip hop today, mind you. Let's be very clear. We do still have the My sons. We have the killer mics.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We have Vic Mensis. Vic Mensis Kendricks.

[Mandy B]

We have people that speak. We actually do have people that speak that are aware and familiar with what is happening.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Educated, knowledgeable, right? Invested.

[Mandy B]

I don't want to hear from these niggas that drink lean all day, that got five, 11 baby mamas and broken homes that they're creating out here. And that's crazy. And their opinion. What? What? Shut. They're creating.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You got baby daddy issues. How dare you speak out about injustice and civil rights, you bum ass nigga Ass nigga.

[Mandy B]

But hear me out. I'm just like, pull out game week.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Don't talk about politics.

[Mandy B]

The. That is not what I said. But it do sound like that. But we saw during blm, right? The who was it? Was it asap who even acted like he didn't have to worry about what was happening with the cops, with police brutality because he lived in Calabasas. We have so many people that now that they have the proximity to whiteness because of their bank accounts, that they genuinely feel like this is not their problem. Also, coming from Florida, y' all know my background, where I grew up, where everyone that was black was not African American, we have also a lot of our hip hop people that are African American. So they may not even feel like ice is something that is going to impact them directly because they don't have a family of immigrants.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, they should be.

[Mandy B]

It's also interesting too, that Nicki Minaj, by the way, going down the rabbit hole, there's a lot of hip hop right now. We have a Canadian rapper. He don't even like. He's not Rihanna. Barbados, Nikki. I didn't even know she wasn't a citizen.

[King Howard]

A bunch of Barbados.

[Mandy B]

Do you. Have you said what? Hold on.

[King Howard]

I said not too much on Barbados.

[Mandy B]

No, I love Barbados and I love Rihanna.

[King Howard]

I got.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's.

[Mandy B]

You're.

[King Howard]

Don't say it too loud. Cause the way these dudes is moving.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Around, I don't have to be proving nothing.

[King Howard]

That's why I keep saying my matrilineal you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The womb is from here. But 23 and me.

[King Howard]

But that's the overarching umbrella of black music.

[Mandy B]

My point. But here's the thing too. I don't wanna hear from them. Like, we have so many voices that we can listen to. Like this idea that hip hop is silent right now. Please shut up. I don't wanna hear from some of them. Mind you. We just talked a couple weeks ago. We got the jigaboos, we got Snoop Nelly, all the niggas for a check. They singing for Trump. We got Wayne walking around with a fucking MAGA hat. Make America great again. We got NBA Youngboy literally saying, whatever Trump say. Just do whatever Trump say. Like, whatever he say, let's do. And he's talking like, that hurt.

[King Howard]

That hurt.

[Mandy B]

That hurt. Because he is a voice for the youth right now. Don't say nothing. So my point is, I would much rather them say nothing because what we have heard from hip hop has been fucking embarrassing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So there's. There's layers to that whole thing, right? Cause I do agree with you. Some of these niggas, I don't. And I've always felt like that, like, people like, why don't you use your platform and speak out? I want to hear from. I don't, like, have to decide whether or not they want celebrities to be they daddies and mommies and heroes. Like, like. Because there's all. People are always doing this back and forth, dance about, like, oh, use your platform. Why doesn't this one say this? Why doesn't this one say something? Fine. I understand the point that they're trying to make. Get the message out. You're a popular person. Say the thing. I totally understand that. And I. I Get where they're coming from. But also, why are we. Like, you can't. Is it Uchi, Wally or One Mic? Like, what are we doing here? Or you want these people to speak out because you think that they have something intelligent, cogent to say and can help the situation? Or you just want to hear your fave and something opinion about something. It's like, that's not how this is supposed to go. I want people who are educated, knowledgeable, and invested in the situation to speak. I don't need everybody to speak. That's the first thing.

[Mandy B]

Exactly.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The second part is as far as what Joe is talking about. Like, you know, people getting executed in the streets and nobody's saying nothing. Okay? That happened two weeks ago. If a song like Bruce Springsteen put out a record about what's going on in Minnesota, Ice T redid Cop Killer and called it Ice Killer. So, like, there are some artists who have said something about what's going on, but also there is something to say about the hip hop that he's talking about in the 80s and 90s. Yes, some shit happened. You weren't gonna hear a nigga, Ice Cube wasn't putting out a record the next week. You gonna hear about it on Ice Cube's album next year or in nine months. I guess what I'm saying is that if someone just came right out and just made a song and made whatever, would that be seen as saying something or would that be seen as performative? Especially if it comes from somebody who, you know, has never said anything about anything or doesn't have a voice that is consistent with speaking out on these issues. Would you want to hear from them just to do the song and for it to just be a thing that they throw in the air because it's a box they have to check, right? So I don't. I don't have the answer to it. And I'm not saying that Joe is wrong, because I want to hear people say things, too. But also, like, I think there's a. I think there is a criteria from who we want to hear from. And also, like, just. I'm not saying wait a long time. But again, I think it would be looked at a little funny for Alex Preddy got shot on Tuesday. I got a freestyle on Wednesday. Got 60 bars on Wednesday about the whole thing. Like, six, seven, six, seven, six, Seven. I don't know.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, what's your thoughts, King? Cause you over there huffing. I don't know.

[King Howard]

Cause y' all making some valid ass points. And there's so Many, Joe, you can't expect that from those who you don't platform. And when I say who we don't platform, I'm talking about the culture. So we have artists who fit that messaging that we don't support.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And they're not mainstream, they're underground.

[King Howard]

And that has been going on for a while now, right? Cause none of those guys, not him. I'm just saying, like none of the. I don't even say conscious rap. The people who would highlight these issues. It wasn't the sexy thing. And it would make the sexy thing have to go.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right.

[King Howard]

And do more provocative work to. They don't want to do that. Right? So case in point, when you talk about. Like we talked about it, I think in the last episode with Dead Prez, they were a top. They were a top selling revolutionary rap.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Dude that didn't give a fuck. And they were talking cash shit.

[King Howard]

But there's no reason why we only get two albums from them, right? And it was on Sony Records. They did it on a major label. But why we don't see none of this happening over the last two decades? So the Messengers aren't there. We don't support them.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, but to your point, that isn't even a new concept either, because.

[King Howard]

And just to double. I'm gonna double down. You said. Cause I don't like when y' all make that reference. It's an uchiwaley one mic. Cause I'm a Nas fan. But to go there. No, but to go there. Jay Z once said, what you trying to kick knowledge?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, yeah, he did.

[King Howard]

To Nas. So it's like, what do we want as a culture? Do we want?

[Mandy B]

Do we want.

[King Howard]

You know, when we gonna. I hate to say this shit, bro. And I think about this stuff every day now because of all that's going on, you kinda get worried and shit. But we gonna have to see something wild on camera to one of us again, a la Rodney King, for that to happen. What he's talking about. Cause I think that's what it's gonna take. We always. We're so reactionary now with this shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Right?

[Mandy B]

You know, but the news cycle too is just so quick that it doesn't even allow you the time to care. Because now there's something else happening. It's so quick and it's so much.

[King Howard]

They're smart at that flurry of events that they do that on purpose.

[Mandy B]

That's exactly what's happening. Speaking of flood the zone, Luigi, not Mario's friend, but Luigi, the guy who.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Originated there we go Luigi Mangione, who.

[Mandy B]

I'm surprised, doesn't have a Netflix series yet.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, if he gets off of this, this will end up on Love Island.

[Mandy B]

Is crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Listen, they gonna.

[Mandy B]

They like this white man.

[King Howard]

Did y' all see the video?

[Mandy B]

No. They say he fought. He fought.

[King Howard]

You see the video?

[Mandy B]

What video?

[King Howard]

When it happened.

[Mandy B]

Oh, of him assassinating the. So it's a. It's a CEO of.

[King Howard]

Of United Healthcare.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yep.

[Mandy B]

He just beat.

[King Howard]

Essentially.

[Mandy B]

Essentially, they took away the death penalty, and now they're just waiting to see how long he's gonna get.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, the murder charge was stick. They kicked the. He had a stalking charge that the judge kicked, and I think there was one other charge they kicked. So that basically, I think the prosecutor's argument was trying to use the stalking as like a point to make a foundation for the other stuff, which was gonna get him life or was gonna get him the death penalty for all the stuff compounded. So now it's just the murder part and a firearms charge.

[Mandy B]

So what did you say earlier? You said something when I was talking about the school counselor. But this is the thing. When these things play out too, even we could think of Rittenhouse, we can think of Zimmerman. Right. We actually see so many times people get off of shit. So people genuinely don't feel like, especially in this country, that necessarily they may have to deal with the consequences. Cuz a lot of motherfuckers get off.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Sure.

[King Howard]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

A lot of motherfuckers don't deal with the actual consequences or justice is not served. A lot in this country to where this is why we're gonna keep seeing bullshit happen. Because they genuinely don't feel like. They feel like they may get away with it. And a lot of people do. A lot of people do. So not to spend too much time on that, but I did want to get to. Before we get out of this is America. Nikki and the Orange Cheeto. Now, I just want to say that that image of them holding hands was scary. First off, God damn his hands, man. That wasn't even his good arm.

[King Howard]

You know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

That was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Use my strong hand.

[Mandy B]

My strong hand. My strong hand.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Use my strong hand.

[Mandy B]

Everybody in this room better know the reference.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There's definitely. I assure you, at least one person in here has lost.

[Mandy B]

Y' all know about the strong hand. Okay, okay, okay. Kennedy. Kennedy said, by the way, I realize that that's a part of, like, my love language. And right now, just knowing that kind of shit, just being able to talk culturally about certain things from Movies. And, you know, I'm dealing with a Y N right now. And he didn't know Big mama, your arm. And he didn't even know soul food. He'd never seen the movie, was unfamiliar with it. And I was like, okay, we're gonna have to get you.

[King Howard]

Since you're transparent and that you're dealing with a yn.

[Mandy B]

Uh, calm down. We're about to talk about Nicki and Cha Cha.

[King Howard]

Do you have political conversations with your yn?

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? Mm, I don't.

[King Howard]

I mean, I don't that listening to Nikki right now.

[Mandy B]

These last. Don't be.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Having a good time today at my expense right now.

[King Howard]

Alexa, she is very.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? No, we don't. We don't. What do we talk about?

[King Howard]

Is that important? Is that important for you?

[Mandy B]

I don't want a Trump supporter. Like, I wouldn't date or talk to someone who is against women's rights, who's against, you know, my body, my choice, who is. I don't like misogynists. So, like, depending. I do care about their views on the world. Politically aligned, you know, but as long as, like, their core values. The core values. Like, you can't literally be in my pussy and then not think I ain't got a choice of what to do with my body. Like, what are we. No. So we talk about that. We align there. What do we talk about? I'm trying to think now. Shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Talk about.

[King Howard]

Segue to the talk about shite.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hellcats, he's talking about.

[King Howard]

He from Atlanta.

[Mandy B]

Shies and Hellcats is crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's crazy. That's a crazy playlist. You know, one of them n got a playlist called Shies and Hellcats.

[Mandy B]

Hit from the A. Anyways, off of me in my dating life.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Lemon pepper. S.R.T.S.

[Mandy B]

We're not. No.

[King Howard]

Is his favorite rapper Fabio Foreign?

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? Me and Crystal was just talking about that. That is when we were talking about rappers. Could you imagine? Have you seen him spell. Do you think I care about Fabio Forin's Thoughts on Ice right now? Like, this is what I'm talking about. Like, can we name the rappers that Future? Do you think I give a fuck about Future's Thoughts on Ice?

[King Howard]

Yo, that might be an episode.

[Mandy B]

No, like, bro, think of the rappers right now that are clearly Cole, I'm sure might have a bar or two in his album about what's happening.

[King Howard]

He might have something.

[Mandy B]

Cause he's very conscious. He's very lyrical. He's very, you Know, but. But the rappers that I see on the timeline. You think I give a fuck about what Kevin Gates think about what's happening right now?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, I just.

[King Howard]

You rap like you trying to free the slaves.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Mm.

[Mandy B]

Here you go. You feel me? You feel me?

[Jason Rodriguez]

You feel me?

[King Howard]

That didn't age well at all.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, but he put himself in such a crazy box. Cause now it's like he wasn't saying shit really, about any issues before. Right, but now that you said that line, when you come. If you come back and try to say something about that.

[King Howard]

He drops Iceman that time. Now you look crazy.

[Mandy B]

There's no way he drops the album and still calls it Iceman.

[King Howard]

Oh, if he do.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, there's no way. But let me tell you, I think.

[King Howard]

He gonna do it. And I honestly would respect it because that's how much of out of. That's how out of touch he is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Be who you are.

[King Howard]

Yeah. You was who you was before you got here, so 100%. I hope he does it. I hope he does it. Cause I want to see how he responds to that. Well, you know, bro, yo, whatever.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm from tdot.

[King Howard]

We don't care about none of them king up there, you know?

[Mandy B]

Yo, chill.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, that's a top tier Aubrey voice right there.

[King Howard]

That was random. I don't know if I could do that again.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That is top tier Aubrey voice right there.

[Mandy B]

So what are your thoughts, Nicki Minaj Trump. We've been seeing her do the dance with Charlie Kirk's wife. We've seen. She pretty much said, fuck all my fans. I know y', all, like, dick up your butt, but I'm not aligned with that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't care about Fs.

[Mandy B]

She said F U. Fs. That's what she said.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. I mean, Nikki looks like the Lisa Turtle of the MAGA Saved by the Bell spinoff. Like, if they had a MAGA spinoff called, like, Slaved by the Bell. And, like, Nikki was Lisa Turtle and Trump was Mr. Belding and, like, J.D. vance was Zack Morris and Cash Patel was A.C. slater. Like, Nikki would fall right in line of the cast of a show of some ignorant shit like that.

[Mandy B]

You know what they say about black women when they date white men and how their wigs be crusty.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She gonna have a crusty wig.

[Mandy B]

Nikki has a crusty wig. Her whole glam team must have left her. She was missing a nail. She had the goddamn glue. Did y' all see the Getty images? It was bad. The crust was all right there on.

[King Howard]

The Lace, this is bad. She is now. That's crazy.

[Mandy B]

No, she felt like. And it's crazy. Cause we talk about it in terms of Kanye, but she single handedly has tarnished her legacy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's over.

[Mandy B]

So bad. I'm not gonna lie. If we think about it, I saw a TikTok that was like, who would have ever thought that we would live to the age to see all of young money pretty much just fucking be obliterated. You got Wayne, who has. Who is maga. You have Nikki, who's now maga, and then you just have Drake and who's.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Just apathetic, which is just as bad.

[Mandy B]

And it's just. It's embarrassing. I don't know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Kody. Hey, Kody. Hey, Kody.

[Mandy B]

Y' all know I like Drake. So we can.

[King Howard]

We like them too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We fucks with Drake. Plenty of Drake songs I like. That don't mean you not lame.

[King Howard]

Right? Right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, that's the shit that Malice said on Eclipse album that crystallized that shit. So good is when he said, if I sold it to myself. What? He says, if I sold it to myself, I could really be me. I done sung along with rappers I never believed. And like, to me, that's it right there. Cause, like, that's. People are having this. We'll talk about. We're gonna have more talk about Cole and all the things.

[Mandy B]

We are. Y' all make sure y' all check out the bonus.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, get that bonus. But, like, people are having a real tough time being able to say both things. And I don't understand why two things can be true. People are having a very tough time saying this. I like some of the things that this artist does or whatever the case is. But this shit was lame. Like, the picking sides and people feeling like they can only have one of those opinions is wild to me. I don't understand what the point is.

[Mandy B]

All I know is I've been told y' all about Nikki. Told y'. All. I told y'. All. I ain't never. I ain't never been a fan. I ain't never liked that bitch. And I said she wasn't a girl's girl. She not a boy's girl. Clearly she is trusting.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She's a pedophile's girl.

[Mandy B]

That is exactly.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She's a sexual abuser's girl.

[Mandy B]

That is who she is. That's her fan club and her relatives. Cause her brother is one and her husband is one.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You know, back a couple. Like this was last year, I think, when there was a huge political controversy because there was a leak of. In a signal chat that they used Pete Hegseth and some of the Trump administration. They used this app called Signal to talk about things and communicate. And there was like a leak where someone in the group chat had accidentally put a reporter.

[Mandy B]

Wait, signal can be leaked?

[Jason Rodriguez]

So what it was was. That's like, it wasn't a leak. What it was was somebody in the administration accidentally added a New York Times, Washington Post. Forget the outlet. But they added a reporter to their group chat, to the internal administration group chat. And the reporter was in there for months just not saying a word, just reading what they were talking about. And there was details about military strikes and all these things that were supposed to be systematically.

[Mandy B]

How did that accidentally happen?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I have no idea how it accidentally happened, but I hope it accidentally happens again so that everything that they say about Nicki Minaj and Sexyy Red, I hope it can all come out.

[Mandy B]

I need it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I hope it all comes out.

[Mandy B]

It's crazy because now, actually, come to think about it, there was the uproar with. With Sexyy Red having the whole.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The whole tour was based on MAGA aesthetics.

[Mandy B]

Well, and so is NBA. YoungBoy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, Young boy.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it's Make America Slime again.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, all of that dumb shit. So it's like, I hope that.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna lie. I'm gonna be up in there, though, with my little green bandana.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I love you, Will.

[Mandy B]

I can't wait.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But that's the thing about.

[Mandy B]

See, two things can be true. Guys talk shit. But I could also be really excited about Making America Slime again.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, to the point of Nicki, though, like, yeah, her career is tarnished. Her legacy is tarnished. But like, she just came off a big ass tour and she said a lot of foul shit before we got to this mega part of her career with her public profile. So I'm sure if a lot of people who love Nicki Minaj will stick it right around with it. These people want the art. They don't even care.

[Mandy B]

I know you kind of wanted to talk about it, but I'm curious your thoughts on Candace Owens leaking the voice note or voicemail.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That shit was creepy. I'm not gonna hold you, bro.

[Mandy B]

Celebrating. For those of you who don't know, Candace Owens went on her podcast and leaked audio of Charlie Kirk's wife kind of being elated at the merch sales.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Following her husband's death.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So they had the big memorial to Charlie Kirk. Weird. She came out with the fireworks. It was like a WWE event. It was a weird way to quote, unquote, memorialize someone who just. Your husband, Your husband who just got shot in the neck in front of the whole world, but whatever. So Erica Kirk, this is like the day after the event or a couple days after that big memorial event, and she's on a zoom call with the staff at Turning Point usa and she is just spouting off these stats and these numbers and how excited the attendance. She sounded a lot like Trump actually, like how many people attended and what the metrics were on social and the merch sales were huge and how many people came to register to vote and all of this stuff. And she was just talking about how excited she was. And then at some point in the conversation, she was just like, you know, death happens. My husband's dead. It just is what it is. And, you know, we all have to kind of move on. And I was listening to this shit, like, this is a week or nine, 10 days after.

[Mandy B]

And I'm like, she was assassinated. Murdered in front of.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She was just. Couldn't be more happy. And I was just like, this is weird as fuck.

[Mandy B]

You know what's weird as fuck? America, like, being able to see these people. It's why, like, and I say it all the time, world peace. Where do you see human beings?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, humans.

[Mandy B]

Have you met a human? Have you met a human?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I try to tell people this shit all the time.

[Mandy B]

It is. It's scary that these are our leaders, that these are the people that other people look up to. And every time I see someone defend them, I say, oh, this is how cults are. This is why, like, it. People are just, they just align with whatever. Yeah, with whatever.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I don't want people to. I don't want people to lose hope, but I do want people to take off like the rose tinted lenses of like, oh, you know, if this is a civilized nation and we just shouldn't be like this. And I can't believe America is like this. This is the America that I know. This is the America that's always existed because this is people. This is human beings. Niggas have been killing each other since the day there was niggas. And when I say niggas, that is non denominational, non gender, non color oriented. Since niggas walked this earth, people have been killing each other with rocks and stones and swords and guns and bombs.

[King Howard]

My mom always says a nigga is just somebody don't know how to act.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, like straight up, that's America, right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's America.

[Mandy B]

That is America.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So like, don't be surprised.

[Mandy B]

They don't know how to act right now.

[King Howard]

No, not at all. It's crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Welcome to the A building.

[King Howard]

I'm Hans Charles. I'm in Lumumba. It's 1969. Malcolm X and Martin Luther King Jr have both been assassinated, and black America was at a breaking point. Rioting and protest broke out on an unprecedented scale in Atlanta, Georgia. At Martin's alma mater, Morehouse College, the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Students had their own protest.

[King Howard]

It featured two prominent figures in black.

[Jason Rodriguez]

History, Martin Luther King Sr. And a young student, Samuel L. Jackson.

[King Howard]

To be in what we really thought was a revolution. I mean, people were dying. 1968, the murder of Dr. King, which traumatized everyone.

[Mandy B]

The FBI had a role in the murder of a Black Panther leader in Chicago.

[King Howard]

This story is about protest. It echoes in today's world far more than it should, and it will blow your mind. Listen to the A building on the.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Iheartradio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mandy B]

All right, well, let's get into Celebrities say the Darndest things, and this week, actually, it's giving. This is not a sports podcast.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This is not a sports podcast.

[Mandy B]

This is not a sports podcast.

[Jason Rodriguez]

However.

[Mandy B]

However, we about to talk about some sports shit is.

[King Howard]

This guy gets a recurrent.

[Mandy B]

What?

[King Howard]

This. This subject.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, we ain't gonna. We'll leave him for the end. We got some actual sports news, Jon. Where you wanna start?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Derrick Rose.

[Mandy B]

Here we go.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This is funny. This is lighthearted. This is not.

[Mandy B]

This is lighthearted.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This doesn't have to be the sadness.

[Mandy B]

Of the world, by the way. I'm also really sad. I was supposed to go to the jersey hanging of Derrick Rose. It was on the 21st, I think. But the snowstorm.

[King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, yeah.

[Mandy B]

It was literally that weekend of Atlanta being hit with a snowstorm. But, yeah, they retired.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They retired Derrick Rose jersey in Chicago. Shout out Derrick Rose, man. He was like. He was one of those NBA players that if you never saw Derrick Rose play in prime Derrick Rose time before he got hurt, like, that dude was something special. And obviously Chicago never won a championship with him. But he's beloved in that city. He's from that city and, like, he's really a hometown hero. So it was dope to see him get those kind of flowers.

[Mandy B]

I like the no pun on flowers. No pun on flowers, considering it's really interesting. He owns a flower shop.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Yes.

[Mandy B]

In Chicago, which I thought was really dope.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's a cool adventure.

[Mandy B]

I want to play this clip, and I'M sorry I didn't send it to you. A king, but he recently went on a show because they were talking about whether or not he would want a statue of himself. And I kind of want to hear Yalls takes on this, but this is what he had to say.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, well, you had the jersey. You had the book, the statues. Next, right. Right outside of the United States.

[Mandy B]

Right outside, right.

[King Howard]

Right where Jordan's is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No luck. D. Wait, I saw that statue.

[King Howard]

I'm good.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No, come on, man. You need a statue outside Chicago, man.

[King Howard]

So they say, we want you to build your statue. You're gonna say no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You could do the statue of a family crest, but I don't want no statue of myself that I feel like that's idolizing and away and don't want nobody to idolize me.

[King Howard]

Yeah, I respect that, man. Well, listen, I hate to do that. Oh, I respect that, man. So we gonna. You were like, I ain't know you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Gonna do all that conscious, but.

[King Howard]

See.

[Mandy B]

See what happens?

[Jason Rodriguez]

See?

[King Howard]

Yo, he pivoted. He didn't wait.

[Jason Rodriguez]

He didn't pause.

[King Howard]

He said, all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I ain't gonna do all that conscious shit.

[King Howard]

Who you Common or Derek Rose?

[Mandy B]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie. The statue of D. Wade looks crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It looks nuts.

[Mandy B]

No, it looks.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It looks crazy.

[Mandy B]

Nut.

[King Howard]

Yeah, that needs to come down.

[Mandy B]

It don't look like D wad. No, it's like they didn't even try.

[King Howard]

Wade way D is crazy.

[Mandy B]

What are Yalls thoughts on that? The idea that he doesn't want to be idolized in that way?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, a. I mean, listen, people in Chicago might feel differently. Other NBA fans might feel differently. I feel like unless you want a championship with the team, I don't really see a need to have a statue of it. Now, I know that there are statues of other players in other cities and things like that that maybe just beloved figures, whatever, but to me, it's like, if you ain't win a ring there, then, like a Jersey retirement is like the top of the mountain. Like, that's saying we respect you. No one will ever wear this number again. You are one of our legends, and that should be good enough.

[King Howard]

That's fair.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Now, as far as the idolatry part.

[Mandy B]

I actually agree with you. That's fair.

[Jason Rodriguez]

As far as.

[King Howard]

It's a hidden criteria.

[Mandy B]

Well, yeah. And him not winning in that city, like, clearly, Jordan May. You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

That gets you a statue, but not winning. You're right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Being a legend is, like, great. That's why we retired your jersey. But like, a statue for what? What would that statue represent?

[Mandy B]

Like, and it was interesting because during his time as well, he was injured a lot.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, the injuries was, like, a big part of his career.

[Mandy B]

A big part. Yeah, of his career. So. Okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Not mad at it, but it's dope that they did that for him. And, you know, shout out to the Bulls. Shout out to Derrick Rose.

[King Howard]

Like, I like to see that kind of shit.

[Mandy B]

Shout out to them. Next week, we actually have our Black History Month episode. So I did want to know yalls super bowl predictions. Mine is Baboni.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Baboni.

[Mandy B]

Baboni is my. Baboni is gonna win. Okay. I don't. You know what's crazy? I don't care.

[King Howard]

I got a hot take.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Shocking.

[Mandy B]

You got a hot take. Shock.

[King Howard]

Shocking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Mandy doesn't give a fuck who wins the Super Bowl.

[Mandy B]

I don't care who wins the Super Bowl.

[King Howard]

This month is gonna be spicy.

[Mandy B]

Ooh, wait, why?

[King Howard]

It's Black History Month.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[King Howard]

It's also the super bowl where we have Bad Bunny.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[King Howard]

And also the new authorities, the new feds, have openly stated that.

[Mandy B]

Oh. That they will have a presence and be outside of the Super Bowl.

[King Howard]

This is gonna be very performative this month because of all of these elements.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But I still do wonder how that's gonna play out, because the NFL owners. Let's be very clear about who we talking about here. Talk to them. They put a lot of money in Trump campaign pockets, all 32 of them. These are not like liberal people who own NFL teams. These billionaires are for maga. So my question is, I'm sure they've pressed Roger Goodell. If they haven't made calls themselves to. To talk to Trump, like, hey, bro, like, back up. Don't fuck up.

[Mandy B]

Don't fuck up my money.

[Jason Rodriguez]

If. If there's videos of people getting ran down and shot and kidnapped outside of the super bowl, like, that's not a good look.

[Mandy B]

That looks crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All the video is gonna have this NFL insignia in the background and some reporter standing there. Yes. I'm on the scene in Santa Clara and five people have been shot by.

[Mandy B]

Not only.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's not a good look.

[Mandy B]

Have we forgot what's taking place this summer? The fucking World Cup.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Like, who's gonna wanna come and attend anything in the US if this is. What if ICE has whatever presence outside of the Super Bowl?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

You know what I mean?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I am gonna be watching.

[Mandy B]

How touching. A lot of pockets.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah.

[King Howard]

We don't know. Look, Kendrick, last Year. We didn't know what his performance was gonna be. We just knew he was gonna perform. And then he did a statement. That was a statement. Right, right. That's another thing too, with Joe that I do get why he said that. Cause I don't think we had another moment from a rapper since that point. We don't know what Bad Bunny's gonna do.

[Mandy B]

Oh, no. And he talked that shit. We haven't panel, but he be talking that shit.

[King Howard]

No, but I know he's gonna come with the theatrics. I know he's gonna come.

[Mandy B]

I think Cardi joins him.

[King Howard]

Yo, after she just sat in that live, she might as well just stay home, bro.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. She has a tour.

[King Howard]

I know, but that needs to be sold.

[Mandy B]

That needs to be sold.

[King Howard]

Dominican and the state and Trinidadian too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well.

[Mandy B]

And they have a song together. They have like two songs together, I think.

[King Howard]

I don't trust the new feds, man.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But to your point about Kendrick, like.

[Mandy B]

They'Re not coming after Belise.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, they're not going to leave. They're leaving.

[Mandy B]

They're not coming after Bekaleese.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Kendrick made his statement. And, you know, some people felt different ways about it. Maybe some people felt that it wasn't overt enough. Some people felt it was maybe too like, you got a no to know type of deal. But Boboni bony, he's gonna. I don't think there's gonna be any. I don't think there's gonna be any subtlety to his performance. I think it's gonna be like. Right. This is exactly what I'm saying to you right now. It's not gonna be no guess and figure out and read between the lines. He's gonna talk that shit.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna hold you.

[King Howard]

He is ignorant.

[Mandy B]

Tate. Do you think they'll transcribe his words in SAP? Like, can we get closed captions?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I would not be surprised.

[Mandy B]

I would love closed captions.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I would not be surprised if they do that, however.

[Mandy B]

No, I'm les espanol and I wanna know the shit he talking.

[King Howard]

Do you know? Do you know? Do you speak? Do you understand a little bit of it?

[Mandy B]

I could order my food.

[King Howard]

Cuss words and penga, penga habla mucho mieta. You know what that means?

[Mandy B]

Mucho's a lot mieta.

[King Howard]

I talk a lot of shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, talk. Yeah, talk a lot.

[Mandy B]

Oh, Mieta. Shit. You know what's crazy? Living in Orlando, in the Bronx.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You should have had. You should have. Yeah, yeah, you should have had some.

[King Howard]

The first time I met her and Weezy, I thought they were.

[Jason Rodriguez]

She said the Bronx. I was like, oh, already put them in the box. I was like, oh, she Puerto Rican. I was like, oh, Weezy.

[King Howard]

She might be both Dominican and Puerto Rican. Oh, you just said we Latinated these. N. I was learned.

[Mandy B]

You was learned at that.

[Jason Rodriguez]

They like, nope. But to your point about the subtitles, I think he would be against that.

[Mandy B]

Money would be.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. Because I think that he does his music in Spanish. Like, I think it's specifically to do it that way.

[Mandy B]

No, I get that. But as someone who is in support and wants to hear him talk, Mieta, I want to understand.

[King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right? And that's ignorant in itself.

[Mandy B]

Speaking non English.

[King Howard]

Like, damn, what's the lady on Fox? On Fox or Fox Sports?

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[King Howard]

No, I get the one that said shut up and dribble.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, Lord Ingraham.

[King Howard]

Oh, I know she's gonna come with.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The heat right after the Michaels and all of these.

[King Howard]

I didn't understand a thing.

[Mandy B]

I'm gonna connect it with, you know, the AirPods now that translate.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, yeah. Maybe that's your best bet.

[Mandy B]

That's my best betting. $300 to understand the 12 minutes of.

[King Howard]

The super bowl performance.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well. Cause also some shit won't translate in a way that sounds fly in English as you're reading it, as he's saying it. So it's like, yeah, you'll understand the words.

[Mandy B]

But like, that's all I wanted. I just want to understand the me after. That's it. Can we put me out there in the title?

[Jason Rodriguez]

I was literally getting ready to say, we're going to have to call this episode Habla Mierda.

[Mandy B]

Habla mia.

[King Howard]

Habla mucho mieda. Habla mucho mieda.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think that's what we.

[King Howard]

Yo, me, I did good. I did good.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I feel like we don't have to do that.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, and we don't have to put the asterisk in that. Right. Like, it's not really a cuss word.

[King Howard]

But it is straight up.

[Jason Rodriguez]

How does that work?

[Mandy B]

It's a cuss word and not English.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But that's what I was going to say. Like, if you curse in other languages, do they. Like, does the FCC pick up on it? Like, is that a thing?

[King Howard]

Oh, because if he don't, nigga, the.

[Mandy B]

FCC ain't clocking our pocket.

[King Howard]

You know what, though? No, you mean Super Bowl.

[Mandy B]

Look at you. Look at you.

[King Howard]

You know what that means? So he called orange man a dirty bitch on tv and then nobody know.

[Mandy B]

It like, oh, then no, no, we all know what buta means.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, He can get away with that kind of.

[Mandy B]

You just said orange.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So you can get away with that kind of on tv like please run it up. Like.

[King Howard]

Are they going to do the alternate show the. The administration.

[Mandy B]

I have not heard anything.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's been crickets for that.

[Mandy B]

I have not heard anything about the lineup.

[King Howard]

Nicki now.

[Mandy B]

Nicki Minaj.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, yeah, Nicki. What's the. What's the country name? Not Jordan. What's the one name.

[Mandy B]

Only country man I know is Shaboozi.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What's the white country?

[Mandy B]

I don't know what you want from.

[Jason Rodriguez]

What'S the white country man they say is always saying something racist.

[Mandy B]

All of them.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh yeah, yeah, I guess. I guess it is that all of them records. All of them records. Good old boy records.

[Mandy B]

Oh my God. Okay, look, see, I love that we lightened up this episode somehow.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, the dark we. Out of the darkness.

[King Howard]

But we're. But we are hurting still, right? We're hurting so many people. And I hurt for the kids too, man, because it was cool to see. We learn about what happened in the civil rights movie. We learn, we see the energy. I don't see that type of bridge in this current time.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy? Timeline. We have just saw a TikTok where a high school teacher was talking about things that we would be surprised aren't in high schools anymore and I don't have children. So bitch. I don't remember the last time I saw high school. Hate em. Fuck them kids. You know what I mean? And she was like, there's no lockers anymore.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There's no lockers.

[Mandy B]

There's no lockers. You know why? Because there's no textbook. And so I found it interesting that technically too my point. So there were people talking about like how sometimes you don't bring a coat and so kids be cold because they're just carrying around what they can because there's no lockers. But it was interesting the connection between textbooks all now being electronic because the way that our administration is now again in Florida. You've already had the. The removal of critical race theory. But now imagine they could just go in and erase chapters, erase sentences, erase literally things.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I can change this right now.

[Mandy B]

Literally can go in, change it and you wouldn't know a thing harder to do when it's written. When it's written in physical books. And we did we talk about. Yeah, we talk about it maybe next week or did we talk about it last week? Them Banning the books.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, in Arkansas jails.

[Mandy B]

In Arkansas jails. Like, it's just really interesting. I don't know. Like, life just used to, like. I'm embarrassed to live here now. Like, this country for what we were raised to believe that this country stood for. That it was. How amazing it was. It's fucking embarrassing.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah. It's all bullshit.

[Mandy B]

Like, are you not embarrassed, America? Are you not embarrassed?

[King Howard]

Or we just got comfortable too, because there was moments in time where, in comparison to today, where we could consider. Yo, I wanna go back to that. When we go back to that, we could point out several instances of things that we had to deal with as a community.

[Mandy B]

I think that's what I'm realizing today is, like, when we think of going back to a time, early 2000s, you got the recession, you got the stock.

[King Howard]

Market crisis, you got.

[Mandy B]

Then the 90s, you have the crack epidemic and HIV and AIDS. 80s too. Then, like, then in the 70s, women didn't even have rights until, like, we couldn't even have a bank account until the mid-70s.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I mean, by the time. I mean, in the 70s, niggas just got, like, became citizens. Like, n. Couldn't vote until the 60s.

[Mandy B]

So it's just when we think of going back even into a time. Oh, damn.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's always been like this. Other people are just now realizing that it could be them.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And they're finding out one body at a time.

[Mandy B]

One body at a time.

[King Howard]

Wow.

[Mandy B]

Ooh. All right, well, I'm trying to think. Do we want to do. Hit one more topic? We want to have fun.

[King Howard]

Let's go run it.

[Mandy B]

Let's talk about this nigga, since this is not a sports podcast. Well, he don't play sports anymore either. But I'm curious because y' all are.

[Jason Rodriguez]

My friends, of course.

[Mandy B]

And Kim Newton sat with Demetri Wylie on his Funky Friday podcast.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, Cameron.

[Mandy B]

And can you. Can you play this clip?

[Jason Rodriguez]

No.

[King Howard]

Is that. Is that by choice?

[Mandy B]

The question is, I'm not about to.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Be around no woman.

[King Howard]

Play tonically.

[Mandy B]

Play tonically. Listen. Why?

[King Howard]

Because I'm not about to play them type of games.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Is it.

[King Howard]

Is it self control? Call it what you want. I'm asking.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Call it.

[King Howard]

It may be self control. I'm asking if she. Fine. I'm not about to have her around playing. Like, I don't think that she's attractive. But is it possible to think someone's attractive and still behave yourself? Yes. Do you have control of them thoughts?

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[King Howard]

But I'm not about to play them games.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The game Is it the game of.

[King Howard]

Saying, hey, we not about to be friends? I don't have good looking women.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's friends around me.

[King Howard]

No, just all the. All the. Do you have any ugly ones? I gotta ask. I don't even have woman friends, bro. Respectfully.

[Mandy B]

Wow.

[King Howard]

And I honestly understand you saying you're not gonna play this game, but came, you're a smart man. I'm need you to go deeper than that. It's a. It's a. I know me. There's. You know you. Okay. I know me. And what that means. That means if I'm around a woman long enough, I'm going to find something good in her that attracts me.

[Mandy B]

Right.

[King Howard]

Okay. And when you're attractive, what then happens when you're attracted? What didn't happen?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Sex.

[King Howard]

Cam, is a bigger issue than I thought we had so understanding that. That I know what's to come from a platonic situation.

[Mandy B]

I don't even play no platonic, bro.

[King Howard]

Baby, you too.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Fine. Yeah, like, this nigga's talking about geology, seismology. Like, what are you.

[King Howard]

No. So, okay, okay. If I take the word friendship off of the table. Do you have platonic relationships in your life that involve women? I just told you I don't have no attractive woman that I'm cool with, that I do not have plans on stabbing.

[Mandy B]

Stabbing is my camera.

[King Howard]

Listen, listen, my fellow listeners, Self control is very important. No, no, no, no. We're not gonna do that.

[Mandy B]

What?

[King Howard]

Self control is identifying. I know me. Now, that's. It's very healthy for you to be saying this. We're not gonna do that. I'm not saying it's not healthy. Yeah, but there's something deeper to this conversation, Cam. Listen, the why is missing this. This. This my camera right here. It's simple. Baby, I'm not your friend. Baby, I'm not your buddy. Baby, I'm not the friend zone. I'm the guy that's trying to score and go for two up in the end zone. You so used to touchdowns, Cam. Now you can't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm trying.

[King Howard]

I'm used to tush. Now you can't kick no field goals. We don't kick field goals. We go for it every time.

[Mandy B]

He go for it every time.

[King Howard]

If you gonna sit up here and tell me, hey, hey, friend.

[Jason Rodriguez]

No friend.

[King Howard]

Even my girlfriend know that. I don't have no girl friends. You know.

[Mandy B]

Look both of y' all's faces. Mind you, this was. I did. You know, my best friend. She agreed with this.

[King Howard]

I do too.

[Mandy B]

You agree with this? Too.

[King Howard]

Mm. But I'm gonna let. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Jai wrote some shit.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I wanna hear him cook.

[King Howard]

I tell you why I got.

[Mandy B]

Okay, I'm curious to know.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, there, there. So there's part of this where it's like. And I'm glad this Demetri Wiley. Demetri Wiley. Shout out Demetri Wiley. Because, like, he was really getting. He was really trying to get to, like, the thing and he was almost there. Cam is just too ignorant to like, to let it go.

[Mandy B]

And leans into it. He leans into his ignorance.

[Jason Rodriguez]

There was platonically. Okay, I'll start here. A. I think it's just like, he sounds like a loser to me. That just sounds like some loser shit. Like, you don't have no women that are friends. Then you don't. Then you don't have no women that are attracted that are friends. So to his point, which I'm glad he said what Demetri Wiley said. Like, so you saying all the women that you know are either fine and you want to fuck em, or they ugly.

[Mandy B]

Or they ugly.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's a crazy thing. But okay, fine. I'm sure there's women in his life listening to that, trying to figure, like, wait, what?

[Mandy B]

Oh, no, I'm a. Keek just said he agrees. Me and Akik ain't done nothing. So I'm ugly, right?

[King Howard]

Yeah.

[Jason Rodriguez]

So I'm trying to figure out, like, what are you even talking about?

[Mandy B]

Did you just shake your head, Akik?

[King Howard]

No, I didn't.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Then there's a part of it where, like, he was walking up, like, Cam was walking up to sounding like a rapist.

[Mandy B]

No, no.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, oh, you can't be around me and I don't.

[Mandy B]

Discipline is a real thing, bro.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like, listen, I get it. Like, we're all human beings. N. S get horny. N. S wanna fuck. I understand it, I get it. But like, you're that horny.

[Mandy B]

That's crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You have no control over your lust at all, in any way, shape or form, even if the woman is attractive. So what? So what? Okay, so is an attractive woman. That's all you got. Like, that's all you can intake from a woman is just how she. Look.

[Mandy B]

I'm trying to think.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's all you got.

[Mandy B]

Let me think. Reverse. Could I be friends with a fine? Yes. After. After men talk long enough, they don't look as fine.

[Jason Rodriguez]

And then you gonna say something dumb.

[King Howard]

And you'll be like, all right, all right.

[Jason Rodriguez]

This nigga, 6, 8, 285 pounds.

[Mandy B]

Maybe I'm what's the word when you like how people talk. I'm a sapiosexual. I like to be able to have a conversation with them.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Unless you're a Y N. And then.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no. We do talk. Hold on. We do talk. We talk about stuff. We talk about business. Travels. Travels a lot. Yeah. Okay. Fuck you.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Shout out to the tech suits.

[Mandy B]

Go ahead, go ahead.

[King Howard]

I think he's being honest.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Oh, I agree with you there, Steve. He's very being honest.

[King Howard]

So we have our higher and lower selves, right? We know our weaknesses and our strengths. He knows that good looking women are his weaknesses. That's why he chooses to say, yo, I can't. I don't have no fucking couth. So I just stay away from it. And he also, what I thought was cool, he identified, said, hey, my girlfriend knows why I don't have girlfriends. Because, like.

[Mandy B]

Cause you ain't got no dignity.

[King Howard]

Because I don't have no right. And that's just the reality of it. And that's why I said I appreciate him being honest about it. Right?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Because he sounds very self aware.

[King Howard]

He's very self aware. Now, his why that Demetrius trying to get him to why?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Nigga, you.

[Mandy B]

You ain't got self control.

[King Howard]

The why is X'd out. Cause he just don't have it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But here's the but. The flaw is he's talking as if it's his choice.

[Mandy B]

That's where it sound a little.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's when you start sounding like a rapist. Cause, nigga, it's not. Oh, it's not your call. You can be attracted to the woman all you want.

[Mandy B]

That don't mean you gonna fuck her.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That don't mean nothing.

[King Howard]

Because unless you in our ecosystem of women friends, I'm the ugly one.

[Mandy B]

Y' all like, damn, I'm ugly as fuck.

[Jason Rodriguez]

The world is fine.

[King Howard]

Fine as fuck. But it's not. Oh yeah, I'm gonna lose my cool now and jump. No, no, he wasn't raised that way.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, there's two parts like every attract. I'm not attracted to every attractive woman.

[Mandy B]

Valentine.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like there's a. I like that. You clean that up.

[Mandy B]

Cause I'm attractive. You're just that. Yeah, there's plenty of people.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Yeah, there's plenty of people.

[Mandy B]

I know y' all ain't gotta call me. I know. I'm fine. It's okay.

[Jason Rodriguez]

You got the gas me up. I know who I am, though. Mandy's fine.

[King Howard]

I can't say that now. I would have said that early, but now we've We've.

[Mandy B]

You ain't saying what I was.

[Jason Rodriguez]

We was big Ems when we was. Nah, that's what. No, that's.

[King Howard]

That's continue. Go ahead, Jon.

[Mandy B]

That's what I'm saying.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Like it's not his call. Let me find out.

[Mandy B]

We gotta get yomi a mic. Yomi facts.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Hey, yeah.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. I think that's my thing.

[King Howard]

Like maybe that's his mentality. He thinks that he's the one.

[Mandy B]

No, but no, let's be very clear. He is a high value man who probably has not been rejected many times.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I'm sure he hasn't.

[Mandy B]

So that's also where that mindset is coming from.

[Jason Rodriguez]

But it's like damn, bro. Like.

[Mandy B]

I love to friend, isn't he?

[Jason Rodriguez]

Well, I'm not even gonna bring that into it.

[King Howard]

Cause that's not.

[Jason Rodriguez]

That's not fair. That's not fair. That's not fair. I'm gonna leave that part alone.

[King Howard]

It's fine.

[Mandy B]

You're like, oh, never mind.

[King Howard]

Have a headline coming right there. All right, Right there.

[Mandy B]

Well, this was fun. I'm not going to lie. I thought I was going to cry. I. I love how we light light hearted topics out. I like it.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I know it's. I know it's tough out here, but.

[Mandy B]

Like it's hard out here for a pimp. It really is.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Alls my life I had to fight.

[Mandy B]

Listen, listen. Anyways, I'm excited to. For the bonus, y'. All.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It should be a good time. That will be lighthearted until I shit on your list.

[Mandy B]

You better not. Okay. So y'.

[King Howard]

All.

[Mandy B]

It will be mostly light hearted the next two weeks. We're giving y' all some music episodes for our Friday episodes. So this week of course is celebration of the fall off. We are gonna have some conversations about the birthday blizzard.

[Jason Rodriguez]

It's like a national holiday for me.

[Mandy B]

Oh my gosh. I.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Are you gonna make snacks? Are you gonna have. Are you have like a restaurant?

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie. This is my Super Bowl.

[King Howard]

You know what?

[Mandy B]

This is my Super Bowl. Okay. Like I'm so excited. Double disc. Are you kidding me? Yeah, but like I might actually end.

[King Howard]

Up undertones of it.

[Mandy B]

I ain't gonna hold you. Listen, there's a lot going on.

[King Howard]

Biracial beef, potentially.

[Mandy B]

There's no biracial beef. And I love. This is gonna be a win for biracials. Okay.

[King Howard]

All right.

[Mandy B]

I also. I'm so excited I might fuck to the album. Like I'm literally doing everything to this album.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Fucking to a J. Cole album.

[Mandy B]

It's diabolical, but I'm lying.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Absolute lunacy.

[Mandy B]

Listen, I'm here for it. Play all parts. I'm not gonna.

[King Howard]

But what's a J. Cole? Fuck the J. Cole album. Vice. Like, what kind of drink are you drinking?

[Jason Rodriguez]

She probably fucking to not smoking weed. She probably fucking to G O M D. She probably fucking.

[Mandy B]

The G omd is crazy.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Get off my dick.

[Mandy B]

Get off my pic. No. Cause I'm trying to get on it. I'm trying to stay on it, actually. But yeah, we're talking about that. And then next week, you guys can hear me and Jah and Aking might have his little takes on our list. We both decided to create our list of top 10, no skip albums.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I think I got a good list, too. I feel good about my list, honey.

[Mandy B]

So if you are. If you are a fan of. See, the thing is, I'm excited to get back to talking music all genre.

[King Howard]

Or just rap all genre.

[Jason Rodriguez]

All genre.

[Mandy B]

But I ain't gonna hold you. I don't think I got a white on my list.

[King Howard]

I gotta wait.

[Jason Rodriguez]

I got a white on my list.

[Mandy B]

I stayed away from that and Spice World. I wasn't gonna get that. I'm just like with you. Okay. I'm just playing. All right, well, guys, thank y' all so very much again. If you want to watch and listen to this show ad free and you want to support the movement over here.

[Jason Rodriguez]

Please support the movement.

[Mandy B]

Make sure you go to patreon.com withmandyb. You can also watch the full episode over on YouTube. That's the with Mandy B Channel. And this was great. I'm not gonna lie. I thought I was gonna come in here and cry because it's been a lot listening to everything okay. But nonetheless, this has been another episode of Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. Until next week, guys. Bye. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And a full Court Media Studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez. That's me. And Aaron A.

[Jason Rodriguez]

King Howard.

[Mandy B]

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[Jason Rodriguez]

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[Mandy B]

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[Jason Rodriguez]

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[Mandy B]

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[Jason Rodriguez]

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[Mandy B]

And it's patreon.com SelectiveIgnorance it's your girl, Mandy B. And you just checked out my new podcast, Selective Ignorance. If you enjoyed this episode, make sure you head on over and hit that subscribe button. And check out Selective Ignorance every Tuesday and every Friday wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. This is an I heart podcast, guaranteed human.