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Mandy B
Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys, to purchase my book, no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned,
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
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Mandy B
also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holds Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions, Decisions podcast with Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Now let's get to this week's episode.
Mandy B
This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iheartradio. Ayo. Welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. I'm your host, Mandy B. And baby, we are getting into all the things up first. Of course, as per usual, we're starting with some ignorant shit. And Ja had quite the ignorant thought this week.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And you know, I'll wait. Listen, I'll wait.
Mandy B
It's gonna be good. It's gonna be good. And this is America. We're talking a stand your ground case where the NAACP is questioning a judge and his decisions. Then, right or wrong, are you able to curse in your Uber because technically you the customer and ain't the customer always right?
Rob
Or.
Mandy B
Or when you're in somebody's space, should you abide by their rules? We're getting into what's right and what's wrong. And then we're getting into the LGBTQ Virgin voyage cruise that was denied entry into Turkey and Egypt because of the country's moral standards. Come on now. Now we're going to lean into the conversation of, well, why do you want to go somewhere where you ain't welcome, huh? Why are you gay then? In celebrities, save the darnest things, we are talking about right message, wrong messenger. Tristan Thompson gives advice to Klay Thompson. We're talking about a white man who says that he doesn't want a black woman that looks like Glorilla in sexy red. And then Stephen A. Smith's daughter says that she will love him from a distance, but, baby, he can't come live with her when he get old. What are your thoughts on what your parents gonna do when they get old? Can they come and live with you? We might get a little toxic today. And I'm really excited. Cause we are joined by the OG Crew. Everybody's here. Let's start with my super producers, y'.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
All.
Mandy B
We got Journalism Jason up in Jersey joining us.
A King
J.
Rob
Rob.
Jason Rodriguez
Peace, peace, peace. What up, y'?
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All?
Mandy B
Wow, you just be working. You just don't be available. You don't be bringing charges. You be leaving us mid show with a dead laptop. It's man.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, I'm trying to get right. You see, I got my mic arm now here. I'm trying to get the studio right.
Mandy B
No, no, no, no. You look real legit now. I like it. Yeah, I like it.
A King
I like it.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm trying to match your vibe over there. I got lights coming. I'm be doing things soon.
Mandy B
Not the lights. No, I'm excited. We're trying to plan a trip. We're literally in conversations with black effect to get the whole team up to New York and, you know, get all of us in the same room.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
We gotta have a group shot, you know, espalon.
Mandy B
There we go. You know what? Now we make the trip to New York. We're gonna do the 1942.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
42.
Mandy B
We're gonna do the 42.
Sprite Living Track List Announcer
42.
Mandy B
Jason, what you be drinking?
Jason Rodriguez
I do 42.
Mandy B
I know you would do 42. What you be on? You be on whiskey. Cause we did drinks.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm big whiskey.
Mandy B
You are a whiskey guy.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Johnny Walker.
Jason Rodriguez
Give me a Johnny Walker and get out my way. I'm good with that.
Mandy B
Ooh, you such a grown man. Not a Johnny Walker.
A King
That sound like stocks and crypto
M
now, y'.
DJ Envy
All.
Mandy B
That other voice comes from none other than the OG pot legend. A king in the building from New York just landed.
A King
Yes, ma'.
Mandy B
Am. Straight off a flight.
A King
Straight off a flight.
Mandy B
Straight off a flight with his Chris
A King
White tee after a canceled flight.
Mandy B
After
you be dealing with the airlines.
A King
You know what it is? The weather. The weather is very moody right now. And you could guarantee if it's a flash storm warning and you got a flight to catch in New York on the east coast, it's probably not gonna happen.
Mandy B
You know what else I noticed too? Atlanta will be quick to ground and not let flights go out like Atlanta. And I didn't know because it's such a big fucking airport, I didn't think it would be that much issues. It's always something with the Atlanta airport.
A King
Well, here's the thing, too, what I'm now learning, having these experience, is that the planes are not coming in or they're delayed from their origin because of the weather. So once they figure out two or three times, that's pretty much, you know, that's their window. That's it. Then you gotta rebook. If you can rebook. And in my case, I think I was supposed to come back Saturday and there was no flights with the green, the Green and white. The green and white until Tuesday.
Mandy B
Oh.
A King
So what I did was. Oh, I didn't tell y' all this part?
Mandy B
No.
A King
Oh, Jay. I was in Philly. I had to go to Philly. I had to leave from Philly. I had to drive to Philly.
Mandy B
You went all the way to Philly to catch a flight?
A King
Yeah, I had to.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Holy shit.
A King
I had to. But there was nothing going out unless you wanted to pay $1,500 a day.
Mandy B
But probably flights. We're not gonna do that.
O
I'm sorry.
A King
I don't have the points. Like, man did. There you go.
M
Remix.
Mandy B
Thank you.
A King
Nah, but seriously, that was my only option. I was like. I was gonna go on. There's a new airline that leaves outta the small market, the small airports. Avelo. I think it's Avelo. A V E L O Avello. I was gonna do that, but I would've had to go to Connecticut. That comes to Atlanta.
Mandy B
But I ain't gonna hold you up that we got an FTA or anything. I ain't flying new airline.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That thing gotta be out, operate a little hop on the joint. Gotta get home.
A King
I know, but it's like a king.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm glad you didn't take Ovelo. I just looked it up. They started as Casino Express Airlines.
A King
Oh, I see. Yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
See, nah, my brother, you made a good decision.
Mandy B
See, yeah, that's not. No, that's like. That sound like some mobsters just throw.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Laundering their money. Yeah, yeah. Waste management.
Mandy B
And they probably was able to cop them spirit flight airplanes for the 15,000 that Trump was trying to buy them from.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. Nah, I'd rather take Soul Planes.
A King
Shit, that sound. Yeah, that sounds like you had an
Jason Rodriguez
Italian dude asking you to carry a bag. Take this bag for me, pal.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Give it to the. The Mulan.
Mandy B
Oh, wow.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They get on that, like, hey, man, give it to the muli.
Mandy B
And y' all hear him. We got the king of headline. None other than Jason Jai Pop blessing
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
all the yap niggas. What up, what up, what up, what up?
Mandy B
Not you with. I mean, we. What is the fit today? Cause you got the Mickey Mouse. You look like you going to Disney World.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The fit today is. Is. Is playful.
Mandy B
You know what I'm saying?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I feel youthful in my spirit.
Mandy B
I love that.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You know what I'm saying?
Jason Rodriguez
I love that.
Mandy B
What's that?
Charlamagne Tha God
Yeah, yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm on my big Spanish shit today, too.
Mandy B
Jason, you read the hat before I did it. Cause I know you know what it's called.
O
That's crazy.
Jason Rodriguez
I Couldn't see. My eyes stopped working after a certain time of the day and I couldn't see it.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, yeah. Big tomorrow energy.
Mandy B
Well, let's. Let's get into you and your ignorant thoughts and let's have a little combo.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, so, yeah, so the other day I was. This is a random thought. This wasn't even really sparked by anything in particular, but I was thinking about, you know, like, we got this election coming up in November, the midterms of 28. We got a new presidential election, and we know it seems like nobody knows what's gonna happen in this presidential election. Right. Like, we're pretty sure J.D. vance is gonna run for the other side. But, like, who else might pop out the woodwork? We don't know. We talked a little bit a few weeks ago about Kamala. Looks like she might be trying to dip her toe back into this thing, but, like, there's gonna be some unex that pop up candidates whatnot. So I was thinking, like, who could be the next president? And not just who could be the next president, but, like, what minority group could become has the best chance of becoming. I feel like this is some shit that would end up on Couchee on Prize picks.
A King
Well, that's if Couch survives. Cause the way.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, if couch could be.
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Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, that could be six, seven.
A King
You said minority group.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. So, like, is the next president going to be, like, a straight black woman? Is the next president gonna be somebody in the LGBTQ community? Could the next president be somebody Muslim, somebody Latino? Like, what underrepresented group could be, like, the dark horse to become the next president of the United States?
Jason Rodriguez
Is this the next president or the next Democrat nominee?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, that is a more specific question that limits the amount of people. Cause the minority group ain't going on the right side. But then it was like, is there a Vivek Ramaswamy that please, like, cuck his way and bootlick his way to becoming, like, the top Republican side on the Republican side? Right. But yeah, if you're talking about Democrat versus Republican. Yeah, Jay, I think that limits narrows the field a little bit.
Mandy B
Okay, so let's get ignorant. I'm gonna go ahead and just say it. Uh oh, a straight black woman's at the bottom of the totem pole. That's gonna be the last.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I think that you think a straight black woman has less chance.
M
Hold on.
A King
I agree.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Is the last.
O
I agree.
Mandy B
Okay, then I think what else has the least Muslim?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm sorry, that was gonna be my last.
Mandy B
I think that the country is still so ignorant to Muslim. The bin Laden, the Saddam Hussein. We are all still. It still almost seems still very fresh from 911 even people still using those
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
talking points to justify their racism.
A King
Their ignorant take is that every day.
Mandy B
But not only that, I am hoping he sues the dog shit out of him. But did y' all see. Did y' all see the recent mom Muslim guy whose phone just went off into the prayer? But it's one of his alarms. And the flight attendant alerted. They detoured and did an emergency stop in Atlanta.
P
Can you.
A King
I was about to ask you where
Mandy B
in Atlanta they did an emergency stop in Atlanta. I think they were heading to Florida. Could you look this up and see what airline it was? I hope this Muslim man sues the dog shit out of this airline.
O
Well, hold on.
Mandy B
Literally, it was just his phone that came off, but it was just a prayer. His prayer.
Jason Rodriguez
Southwest Airlines.
Mandy B
There we go.
Of course.
A King
I just took Southwest too.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Southwest Airlines. Could you read the.
Mandy B
What happened in this case, Jason?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, Southwest Airlines flight traveling from Tennessee to Florida was diverted and made an emergency landing in Atlanta after a passenger's phone alarm triggered. The device played the adhan as the Islamic call to prayer, which caused concern and confusion among crew members and fellow passengers.
M
Wow.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They called the soul. That is some next level. Hate that next level.
Mandy B
And I want to say racist, but it's just ignorance. It's ignorant of shit.
A King
But I will say this though, let's be clear. Tennessee to Florida, red to red to red to red. So let's. We know the demographic on that plane,
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
but it was the flight attendant.
Mandy B
The flight attendant alerted and diverted the plane to an emergency landing.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Even better.
Jason Rodriguez
Even better if it brings you comfort. They just described it as a misunderstanding.
DJ Envy
And they didn't.
Mandy B
I want him to sue the dog
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
shit after a Mashallah misunderstanding.
A King
Well, why couldn't they process what that was in real time rather than having to stop the whole plane and inconvenience all these people?
Mandy B
Ignorance.
A King
Because you could Google this shit. Oh, shit, that's his. Oh, they about to do the imam.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, but what does. Like, if you're the flight attendant and you hear Arabic prayer, like, what does that mean? Like, the jihad is coming. What are you saying? Because you heard Arabic words means.
A King
Did it say what type the person. The flight attendant was of course white.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, I feel like it has to be. You know what?
Mandy B
Actually, I'm not gonna lie. Black people are also ignorant to Muslims.
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A King
I don't think we would stop the.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't think we would Stop the point.
A King
You wouldn't stop the point.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I think if it was black attendants, I feel like they would. Amongst themselves. Like, hey.
A King
They say, hey, hey. Sir, can you turn that down? It'll be one of those.
Rob
Right.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
We'll make it about the noise and not the prayers.
A King
Correct.
Mandy B
So you know what? I'm not gonna lie now. Talking about this. Muslim is below.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, see?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. I think Muslims.
A King
How long did alarm play? 2 check ins.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He was probably asleep. That shit went the whole way.
Mandy B
Mostly I say Muslim is below a black woman. And then. Okay, tricky, you didn't put blacks in there. I actually think that the next president could be. I would wanna say half, though. I think Latino.
A King
Yes.
Mandy B
I think they. 100%. I think if we had a president running that was maybe not even Puerto Rican, because the whites still don't even know that's a part of the US But a half.
A King
It would have to be Puerto Rican.
Jason Rodriguez
Like Cuban and white.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say like a. Yeah, Cuban and white.
Mandy B
It doesn't have to be a Puerto
A King
Rican because it's not gonna be Cuban.
Mandy B
You could be American born and be Latino from another country.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Right, true.
Mandy B
Because it's just about being born in
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
the U.S. being born in the U.S.
Mandy B
that's why Mondame can't run.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Right.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Which is also probably why they're going so hard with birthright citizenship. Because they don't. They don't. They probably don't. They're trying to eliminate options.
Mandy B
That's exactly what they're doing.
A King
So I'm just thinking of connection to the country. That's why I'm saying Puerto Rico.
Mandy B
Well, and mind you, I did. I did skip the LGBTQ plus. But I will go out on a limb and say we don't already had a gay president. He was just on the down low. Like, I believe that a few of these niggas, if you even look the little curls they was wearing back in the day.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It was just real niggas.
Charlamagne Tha God
It was.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, I was. They say Eisenhower was like playing that game, but didn't wanna come out and.
Mandy B
Wait, what they said about Eisenhower, Tell the people.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, no, I thought there was. I don't wanna find out what exactly. Yes, allegedly. But there was rumors about. He is dead.
A King
It's the people.
Mandy B
But ain't he dead? What he gonna do? We just questioned him.
Jason Rodriguez
Mandy, do you think Trump has tendencies.
Mandy B
You know what's crazy?
A King
Trump is a wild boy.
Mandy B
If Trump was in the closet, I would 100% believe he was a bottom because. Only because. Do y' all see on South Park? And maybe this is me just really believing. He got that little shrimp dick, like they show in South Park. I'm like, where is that going?
A King
I think Trump, like, pum pum. I don't think he's. I don't think. I think he.
Mandy B
Now he, like, pump. Why you like to talk.
A King
If you look at, like, Trump in his early days, like, 70s, how he was very high profile, celebrity a lot in the limelight. He loved women. He just be around women a lot. You never had. No.
Jason Rodriguez
But the people, the people who talk about women too much, it's like, that's like the red flag. It's like, oh, gorgeous women. Like, I love women. Women, women, women.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, that's the thing about Eisenhower, right? What I was gonna say was, you looked it up. Yeah, I was trying to make sure I had this right. Cause I didn't wanna say it the wrong way. So Eisenhower, when he was in office, he purged LGBT people from federal jobs. They called it the Lavender scare, where it was like anybody who he thought was gay, rumored to be gay, thought was living a quote unquote, alternative lifestyle. He wanted all of those people purged. And it was an actual law that he signed in, like the 50s, I believe, about getting gay and lesbian people out of the federal government. So to me, that speaks to the same thing Jay is talking about. Like, if you hate gay people too much, then you probably, like, trying to compensate for something, right?
A King
Or he doesn't want to have interactions with other people. Identify.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Identify who might see it in him and be like.
A King
So he just said, let me eliminate my people, you know, in that community. And then I'll be. He could have free reign, right?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He could do his thing. So it was never confirmed, but that was always the thing that people kind of talked about, where it was like, was, why are you going so hard, yo?
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DJ Envy
What up, y'?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
All?
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. We're at the premiere of Fightland, executive produced by my guy, 50 Cent. Yeah, now listen, you know you've done a lot on it over here. America decided to go to UK for this one.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, this one is different.
DJ Envy
So break it down for people that haven't seen it comes out the 31st. So tell us about Fightland.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, it's exciting. This one is a UK based show. I got Ottawa Bathurst to direct it. So the first two episodes he did really dope. And then I got like the other guys that I got to do throughout the season. It's like, top notch, bro. So you're gonna see this one's gonna feel like it's a great better and what I did like in Power, really. I promise that.
DJ Envy
Now, for people that haven't seen it yet, it comes out July 31st. Fightland. How would you describe Fightland?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I'd say it's a family crime drama.
DJ Envy
Okay.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Right. And it has an intensity in action that you would, you would, you would feel you received in an action film. And it does things that the other series don't do because we kind of jump timelines throughout the episodes and stuff like this. So you'll see things and go, oh, like things flashing back and things going to different, you know, backwards and forwards.
DJ Envy
I seen the first episode. I didn't see you in it. Are you in this season or are you at any season or. No, because usually we'll get a pop up, a 50, a pop up here and there. Are you in Fightland at all?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, I might have to work on my British accent.
DJ Envy
Have you tried?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, no, I did. Well, I would have to work on it to get in this.
DJ Envy
What keeps you moving, motivated to do it. You don't need the money. It's just like at this point, what is it for?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Nah, it's cool creatively, like. No, no project is great because of one person. It's a collective, you know, I mean, and what I get a chance to do is communicate what they feel to the network before it gets like. Then they start developing reputations of being difficult or doing things. But they're comfortable expressing how they feel to me, you know? Now I'm at a stage where I can, you know, finance and license the project instead of giving it to the networks for them to own.
DJ Envy
The series premiere of Fightland drops July 31st only on Starz, with new episodes streaming weekly on Fridays.
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Mandy B
to say there was another president with speculations. President James Buchanan. Oh Buchanan, who never married and had a very close friendship with William Rufus King, who also never Married.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, yeah.
A King
So look at Google being my Google.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Got a whole little thread on the front.
Mandy B
Somebody be gay. So you know what of the minority groups.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Great.
Mandy B
Great ignorant conversation, too, I would say. A Latino gonna take office.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Office for.
A King
How about this? A Latin woman.
Mandy B
No.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So that was gonna be my next question, though.
A King
I think so.
Mandy B
You don't think a Latin woman.
A King
Because of what we seen in terms of galvanizing communities, galvanizing an agenda. The sample size that we have now, I'm gonna. I would think this is gonna be a Latin woman.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
A lot of people think AOC is gonna put her name.
A King
So we'll see how they had the spirit and the energy to go forward
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
to do that thing. But that was gonna be my next question, though, is which of these could cross over? Like, could we have a gay Muslim president? Could we have.
Mandy B
Absolutely not.
A King
Hold on. Stop, stop, stop, stop.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, where is.
A King
With all due respect, you can.
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A King
Man, why we do this?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, listen.
Mandy B
No, you only get one minority bus.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like those buses we cross streams.
A King
And you said Muslim and gay.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, there might be a.
A King
But I thought that goes against Christianity,
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
too, but it's gay Christians. Like, they don't care about what the Bible says, and they live their life.
A King
Because I never seen. I mean, I'm not to say, well,
Mandy B
you not gonna see a gay Muslim.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm sure there's probably. They have to be out there. The numbers that they have to be seen.
A King
No, I just never. You know, I thought they was.
Mandy B
Do you be at the mosques?
A King
Not at the mosque, but I've been around, like, you know. You ever been to Fulton Avenue in Bedford?
Mandy B
Have you ever been in their bedrooms? Y' all know what they do behind closed doors?
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Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, but hold on. Is there.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
That's true.
A King
Inshallah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Now that we're talking about this, are there any publicly out Muslim gay celebrities?
A King
That's what I'm saying.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm really thinking about it now. Like, damn. I don't know if they're. I don't know if I could name one. Maybe over there. Maybe overseas, there's people who have, you know, whatever. But in America, in American society, I don't. I can't think of anybody who's openly gay and Muslim, is in a family.
Mandy B
I mean, in America society.
Jason Rodriguez
The dude from Queer Eye. What's the guy? Tom France or whatever.
A King
Is he.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Is he Muslim?
Jason Rodriguez
He's Muslim, yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
There you go.
A King
Okay, so I just. It says, yes, there are many gay Muslims. While navigating the intersection of faith and sexuality, can Be complex due to traditional interpretations, of course. Numerous individuals identify as both progressive organizations and welcoming communities exist to support the LGBTQ+Muslims through social and family acceptance. Those social and family acceptance.
Mandy B
I ain't gonna hold you this ignorant as hell. You stop motherfucking ignorant. Wow, jc, you supposed to be reeling us in, you know what I'm saying?
A King
Every day some sort of hope, but we not saying it. They're letting us informing us that this exists.
Mandy B
Okay, so shout out to the, you know, community. So then let's put a bow tie on this conversation with. For the 2028 presidential election, do we have a minority bucket candidate or is it still too early for that? I mean, clearly. Maybe Kamala. We do.
A King
Yeah, of course.
Jason Rodriguez
If it's not Kamala or aoc, it's just gonna be white men running the tablesheet. I'm putting it on white men.
Mandy B
Ooh, yeah.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Okay.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Cause I mean, the way it's lining up, it sounds like it would be Kamala, aoc, Gavin Newsom, and maybe Josh Shapiro.
Jason Rodriguez
Chad Shapiro.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, like that. And that would probably. That sounds like the most likely four that came out.
Mandy B
AOC would be running for 2028.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't know if she's ready for that yet.
Mandy B
Okay.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't think so. But there's been speculation about what is she gonna do over this time. So we're naming the ball.
Jason Rodriguez
Oh, she took more time in Congress than Obama did when he ran.
O
That's true.
Jason Rodriguez
As like a referee.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And her profile is probably higher than his.
Mandy B
She does have a higher profile than
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
him at the time.
Mandy B
Obama at the time.
A King
Yeah, but we can't play tit for tat here either. It's like this is the stakes is high right now.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So at the end of the day,
A King
it's like you gotta put your biases aside and say, yo, I don't wan be locked up in cages. That simple.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, the question will become. It's really not about the Democrats. The question will be is how many? Because what we're asking is how many Republicans can we could get on this train if that was the case. Right.
Jason Rodriguez
But Ja, do you really think it's. Do you think it's that versus like just getting the like Democrats excited to come out? Because, you know, sometimes it's like they lose because of like low turn.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's true.
A King
Yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Right. If turnout is.
Jason Rodriguez
I don't know if you're gonna flip a Republican as much as you'll get a Democrat to just sit home. Cuz like, I imagine a lot of Democrats would Sit home because they'd be tired of Kamala. Cuz they're saying, did it before extension of Biden. I'm just not gonna vote.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, the question, I guess I asked that because in the era of maga, it's like we saw Republicans basically, like, hold their nose and vote for Trump. And we saw Republicans who said, all right, I voted for him once. I can't do it no more.
Mandy B
Well, I'm curious at the Republicans knowledge of DeSantis and what he stands for. Because if DeSantis puts his hat in the. In the race.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
I'm really coming from a Floridian voter and what he's done in Florida over the past. I don't know. He's been there for a little while
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
now, but definitely over the past 10 years. Six, seven years. Yeah.
Mandy B
I would be very curious to know if there would be any switch within the Republican voters as to wanting to get someone probably more evil and wicked than what we have right now in office. And I don't know if people are aware that DeSantis is probably worse than Trump. If anyone can imagine somebody worse than Trump on policy and hate. He passed the. He's the one that removed the critical race theory out of the schools. He passed the you can't say gay bill. He's very anti everything.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He was the one putting pressure on Disneyland to not. What was it? I think it was DEI and might have even been LGBTQ stuff. But he was like, trying to.
Mandy B
He's not aligned with marijuana being legal, right?
Yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He's like, yeah, he wants.
Mandy B
There's a lot of fucking shit that if he came in and start just.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It could be bad.
Mandy B
I would want y' all to do y' all research on Desantis. Cause, baby, that is the devil and
Jason Rodriguez
we do not want devil in high heels. You know, he'd be wearing them heels.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. And he be on the crisscrossy with the dressing.
Mandy B
Oh, yeah, his dress. It's crazy.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Shout out to Andrew.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Okay, now, before we get into this
Mandy B
is America this week. Hello.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Gotta do a double down or take it back. And you know what? This past week has been quite interesting. I do have a clip to play. If you have been living under a rock and didn't hear this clip recently went. Went viral. So let's go ahead and play the clip that got everybody's panties in a bunch over the last week.
Target Advertiser
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Mandy B
Everything that you have, if you're a woman that is focused on making more, having your own career, bringing your own money.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Absolutely. I think.
Mandy B
Okay, so this is going to be my hot take. And no shade to either.
Target Advertiser
We're only three minutes in.
Mandy B
I know.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
I think marriage is for broke bitches.
Mandy B
Oh. And so I think a woman who wants to be married is leaning more into the patriarchy and wants to be essentially, possibly taken care of, have their man as the leader. All of the ideals for me of what marriage looks like is that so. I just saw my friends recently this weekend.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
She was like, did you want to be married?
Mandy B
And I literally said, yeah, when I was poor. As a woman who can now, like, provide for herself, also doesn't want motherhood, and also sees a lot of these celebrity women now having to continue working because they have to pay alimony. I mean, we have even podcasters now paying alimony. Shout out to Rachel Lindsay.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Like, there's all these people that once
Mandy B
you make a certain amount of money, if. If your man doesn't, you have to pay them out. And I just don't want to be that.
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Mandy B
I don't want to be that.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
So I listened to this and I'm like, this is what everyone is so up in arms about. By the way, I want to clarify something. This episode released in August of 2025. So this is a conversation regarding my views on marriage, sitting with two people who at the time did not yet have an engagement ring, but was talking about how much they both wanted to be engaged to be married. So Kami and Weezy both, at the time of this episode, were not married. And so in a conversation with two women that want to be married, and as a woman who does not seek marriage, this was my hot take. And of course, yes, the delivery was awful.
Mandy B
Okay.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
But maybe it's a podcast. I gotta make it a little spicy. To be fair, I genuinely am someone that didn't grow up wanting or thinking about my white dress or what venue or the ring shape that I wanted. And. And even now, today, as a woman with my own, I just don't seek getting into another business arrangement. I think I've shared this plenty of times before. I think I even shared this on this specific episode of relationship with Kami Crawford. I have, in my opinion, experienced kind of two divorces already. Of course, leaving the JBN is one where said person got perpetuity and I'm still somehow attached to him all these years later. And then, of course, with the end of. See, the thing is, where lawyers were involved, assets were stolen, assets had to be split court and all of that got involved. I got sued after. I don't want to deal with that. And unfortunately, as someone who doesn't lean heavily into the church, I also don't remember if the conversation between or on that particular podcast leaned into the church either. So as someone who doesn't lean heavily into religious beliefs in terms of marriage, and as someone who doesn't seek to be a trad wife, as someone who is also consuming and talking to all these girls who apparently want their bills paid on date one to me, marriage as it pertains today, the divorce rate at 50% is heavily due to finances and a lot of people are currently dating with finances in mind. Straight out the gate. I don't understand why this was like such the hot take that it was. I listened to this today and believe the same sentiment. Mary J. Blige, Kelly Clarkson, Madonna, Wendy Williams. Like the list goes on and on. We are now seeing that women don't have to be defined by the amount
Mandy B
of kids that they have, by partners,
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
their ability to even bear children, or a man claiming this cause. Whoop dee doo, we see how y' all be out here embarrassing men. And speaking of embarrassing men, the idea that the response to this is that I am unmarriageable. I want to lean into the fact that I'm not offended that a man called me unmarriageable. But what I am offended by is that someone who is unmarried, who got denied a proposal on national tv, and someone who is prone to self sabotage, calls himself a terrible friend, is emotionally stunted, is problematic, is jealous, is all of these terrible adjectives to describe himself, while also someone who has made bitches feel uncomfortable in a room while also being alleged to have assaulted women and other things, has the nerve to sit here and say I'm unmarriageable. As if that is the eligible bachelor that we have to consider out here in these streets. I swear to God, if my option is to be wiped up or proposed to by a man of that caliber, Jesus save me. That's the other thing. As women, whether it's our size, whether it's our weight, our looks, whatever, the fact that a man with that type of background, with that type of history, can have the nerve to hop on a microphone and shade me for what he thinks I am and how I've lived my life, well, it is available in no Holds Barred, which is a New York Times bestseller. Like you, Joe, I've gone through therapy and I've sat here and made the best of my life too. Okay, I'm glad that you're no longer struggling with Drugs. I'm glad that you are a better person. I'm glad that you also are out here on the GLP1s taking care of your health, making yourself a better eligible bachelor because you're still technically an eligible bachelor too, regardless of how many years you've been in relations with whomever ever. My issue isn't that you said I was unmarriageable. I have an issue with you leaning into the fact that it's because of my wildly popular, my legacy, horrible decisions as to being the reason why. Listen, say what you want about horrible decisions. Do it. All I'm saying is nothing about what I've created is going to make me less desirable than maybe I would be to anyone who already saw me as less desirable. That also being that being. That being the dis. Listen, I am blessed to have worked on myself both inside and out. I am blessed to have been loved and. And as a woman, I am blessed to experience choosing my partners because they respect me and make me happy and not being dependent on a man. And so I'm sorry if it really missed the mark in my delivery. I say all of that to say in 2026. I am so proud to be able to say I don't want to be a mom. I don't need to be chosen by a man to have my value dictated by society. And I want more women to strive to do that. Yes. In my 20s, I didn't think I'd be able to travel to certain countries without a man booking my ticket. That's not the case now.
Mandy B
I didn't know I'd be able to
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
live the way I live unless a man were to do it. Because unfortunately that is kind of what I grew up around. That's what I saw. Women wanting that and not my case specifically. I mean there's. There's deep rooted elements in, into my thoughts and views on women staying with abusive men and in terrible homes because they didn't have any other choice. You could date it back maybe to the 70s before women could even get a bank account without living under a man's roof. You could go back to when men needed to give dowries to marry.
Mandy B
Like when literal families were pushing women
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
to marry men they didn't even want. Watch Pride and Prejudice. What I said is nothing new and I didn't deliver it correctly. If you want to be married, go be married. But I don't believe in getting married to a man for stability, for trad wife bullshit, for a home over your head. I am pro ladies. Get it Yourself. And what I'm not for is for the incels hopping on the Internet telling a woman where her value is based on xyz elemental p. There are sex workers, porn stars, felons. There's all of these, like, buckets of people that are viewed as undesirable by society. And they're getting married every day. Day. They're finding love every day. And I want that for them. I say all of this to say I'm doubling the fuck down on everything that I said. I'm not taking it back. And you know what? At this point, in terms of aligning
Mandy B
myself with a man, I can do bad by myself.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
And I say all that to say, here we are.
Mandy B
Here we are.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
So I'm hoping that this is done with.
Rob
And
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
the last thing I'll say, the last thing I'll say, Cross signals. I don't.
Mandy B
You know what?
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
I ain't even gonna go there. I ain't even gonna go there. But I'll say, what a bitch ain't never been in her motherfucking life is a liar. And anybody who know me, any pussy asshole that done cross me, anyone who's worked with me, anyone who's been my friend, anyone who's been my foe, knows I ain't gotta lie, Craig. I ain't never had to lie, Craig. I swear for God. So whatever I've said in the last week, I said it with my chest and meant it. Because ain't nobody gotta lie. Doesn't matter how long you've known me, what body changes you've seen me go through, what. What obstacles I done been through, baby.
Mandy B
I ain't got a lie, Craig.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
And on that note, let's get to this Was America, yo.
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DJ Envy
What up, y'?
P
All?
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. We're at the premiere of Fightland, executive produced by my guy, 50 Cent. Yeah, now listen, you know you've done a lot on it over here in America. Decided to go to UK for this one.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, this one is different.
DJ Envy
So break it down for people that haven't seen it. Comes out the 31st. So tell us about Fightland.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, it's exciting. This one is a UK based show. I got Ottawa Bathurst to direct it. So the first two episodes he did really dope. And then I got like the other guys that I got to do throughout the season. It's like, top notch, bro. So you're gonna see this one's gonna feel like it's a grade better than what I did, like in Power.
DJ Envy
Really.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I promise that.
DJ Envy
Now, for people that haven't seen it yet, it comes out July 31st. Fightland. How would you describe Fightland?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I say it's a family crime drama.
DJ Envy
Okay.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Right. And it has an intensity and action that you would, you would, you would feel you received in the action film. And it does things that the other series don't do because we kind of jump timelines throughout the episodes and stuff like this. So you'll see things and go, oh, like things flashing back and things going to different, you know, backwards and forwards.
DJ Envy
I seen the first episode, I didn't see you in it. Are you in this season or are you at any season of the know? Cuz usually we'll get a pop up, a 50. A pop up here and there. Are you in Fightland at all?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, I might have to work on my British accent.
DJ Envy
Have you tried?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, no, I did. I. Well, I would have to work on it to do it, to get in this.
DJ Envy
What keeps you motivated to do it? You don't need the money. It's just like at this point, what is it for?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Nah, it's cool. Creatively, like. No, no project is great because of one person. It's a collective, you know what I mean? And what I get a chance to do is communicate what they feel to the network before it gets like they start developing reputations of being difficult or doing things, but they're comfortable expressing how they feel to me, you know what I mean? Now I'm at a stage where I can finance and license the project instead of giving it to the networks for them to own.
DJ Envy
The series premiere of Fightland drops July 31st only on Starz. With new episodes streaming weekly on Friday,
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Mandy B
get into this is America baby which is at this point just embarrassing. Start with this stand you'd ground case jot put us up to what's happening with this NAACP case and I'm ready to talk about it cause I love a little stand your ground case.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So back in 2025 there was a shooting where a teenage boy Young man, whatever. Allegedly pulled out a shotgun, aimed it at a couple of black. Some black people that were outside. And much like the other case that we talked about, like black folks retaliated. They shot back at the barbecue. At the barbecue, yeah. The white guys. The Marines came around there. Similar situation where this guy comes along with a gun. Black people feel threatened, they fire back at him. They end up shooting him, killing him.
Mandy B
Okay.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Two black men or two, I guess they were teenagers at the time. Ja' Marion Byrd and Travis Roberts Jr. Were eventually arrested. This is months after the incident. So they happened. Months went by, everything was whatever. Then they were arrested and got charged with first degree murder, by the way.
Mandy B
Only because you didn't say. I think it's important to state that this took place in Florida.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
This did take place in Florida. This is Jacksonville, Florida, where, you know, this is. At that point, Florida is like the hotbed of standing ground. These cases that happened were with Trayvon Martin and all these other places. Like, this is always the case in Florida.
Mandy B
It was the conversation, even with the woman from the Netflix show, Susan Lawrence.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Same thing. The favorite neighbor, the best neighbor.
Mandy B
Best neighbor.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, something like that.
Mandy B
Stand your ground.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Stand your ground. Florida case, right?
Mandy B
Yep.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Talk about it. So these two brothers were charged with first degree murder, which already sounds crazy because first degree murder is usually about premeditation.
Rob
Yep.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They were defending themselves in real time. So how did they premeditate that? Somebody was gonna come put a gun on them and they were gonna have to shoot back. So I don't understand that whole thing, but the judge in the case essentially said that you shot back too much, that they fired rounds, that the guy started to run away because he was getting shot at. And they kept shooting. He was still holding his gun. So they probably thought, well, this guy is still a threat. He just tried to shoot at us. They kept shooting until they got. And the judge is basically saying that when he turned around and ran off, the incident was over and you were supposed to stop shooting. And this is the thing that happened.
Jason Rodriguez
He was retreating.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He was retreating.
DJ Envy
Right.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And so, and this happens a lot in cases where you're in the heat of the moment, someone's trying to kill you and you shoot because you feel under threat here. A few years ago, Jason, while he's
Mandy B
explaining this, can you pull up the case that's still ongoing with the convenience store who they came out and shot? The guy that they thought stole.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, rich child.
Mandy B
There we go.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The rich child case.
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
Could you look that up? Because that's the I know him running away.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Was him running away.
A King
Right.
Mandy B
Is what's happening.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Is what's happening there, right? Yes, they say that. Yeah. The guy who Rick Chow shot was leaving the incident. Rick Chow shot him in the back. And Rick Chow.
A King
With no weapon.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
With no weapon. And Rick Chow got acquitted.
Mandy B
He got acquitted.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But because of standing his ground, he was allegedly being attacked.
Mandy B
So the NAACP got involved in this because they feel like the judges charges are just too harsh.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. And that they're misapplying. They're picking and choosing how they apply. Stand your ground. And it's like in this case, you let it slide. In this other case with these black boys, you're not letting it slide. You're saying they were supposed to stop. And there was a case actually here with the very famous Atlantan Shaka Zulu. Had a case that I fought a few years ago. And when that case happened, I was watching the video and I was scared for him. Cause I'm like, it looked like it
A King
was gonna go real bad.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The way it happened was like, okay, these guys tried to jump you. You were on the ground. A security guard came and broke up the situation. And you got off the ground and shot. And it was like, I was worried of this exact thing. Now the incident is over. Security guard has come down and stopped the confrontation. You shot the kid anyway. How is the court going to look at that? And apparently they're choosing. That was in Georgia. But apparently the court doesn't have a unified way of how to look at these cases. Because in some cases they'll say, no, this is perfectly fine. In some cases they'll say, no, you did too much. You were supposed to say, I mean,
Mandy B
I'll be honest with you, as someone who is anti civilians with gun ownership, we've talked about this a lot. I think that's where it gets tricky for me. Because as a human being, you know how like when you go to the hospital, a doctor really can't tell you your. Can't tell your pain tolerance, your pain level. It's one of those things that. That's why. Tell me your pain. Rate it from 1 to 10.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
1 to 10. Tell me a number.
M
Right.
Mandy B
It's the same conversation we had with the Carmelo Anthony case where how can you tell someone their life wasn't in danger in the moment or what they felt like in terms of defending their life.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
What was happening and who was setting upon them?
Mandy B
Because some people could be more pussy than others. I really could have thought I was going to lose and risk my life and that my life was in danger. So I had to resort to. And unfortunately, when you look at all of the details, the people, the prosecution, the judge, the jury may not, or us podcasters may not feel like you actually had to use a gun or had to use a deadly force in this incident. And so, so this is tricky because at least with this one, the other person did still have a weapon. Like I said, there's so many cases where in the convenience store case, the boy didn't even have a gun on him.
A King
Right.
Mandy B
I don't know. Where do y' all stand with this?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, in digging into it, the burden of proof in this case is on the prosecution.
Mandy B
Okay?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The prosecution has to prove that it was intentional. It was intentional, and that this person was not acting in self defense. And the whole thing. So it gets. Gets dicey because now it's like, okay, here are the facts of the case, quote, unquote. And they have to make a case as to why the defense has to make a case as to why they did have to use deadly flags.
Mandy B
Listen, listen, I'm arguing I don't watch enough movies. The could still shoot with their back.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Of course they can.
Mandy B
Like if there's a. If there's a gun, if you still are holding on to a weapon, you absolutely are.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And that's what the police would say.
A King
We're gonna stop, turn around, and then pull and pull the shot back.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. And when the police say, I feared for my life, a lot of times you see it all the time in these videos. You see the dash cam video or the body cam video, the person is running away and they're saying, oh, he's holding a gun.
Mandy B
He's still holding a gun.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So I had to shoot him because who knows what he was gonna do next here when they, when they shot Rayshard Brooks in the Wendy's parking lot in Savannah, same thing. He was running away. Police said, oh, he was holding something, so I had to shoot him.
M
Him.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And so I felt like my life was in danger because he was still holding a weapon.
A King
How much case study is going to be involved now? Because usually these cases, they have some kind of precedent, precedent and reference points where they can go. And. Well, for the defense particularly.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So, I mean.
A King
But it's Florida too, guys.
Mandy B
I was just about to say, but it's Florida.
A King
Those people in Florida don't give no shits about this. Right? So of course they're going to go,
Mandy B
and this was a white man that got shot.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yes, this was a white man.
Mandy B
Because then unfortunately, especially with the state of Florida in our fucking country, race becomes a part of crime, everything.
A King
So they're gonna. I think the judge did that to try to bleed the money of the defense now, because it's what you said. First degree murder.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
First degree murder, which seems like an overcharge.
Mandy B
And did the NAACP go ahead and get them attorneys for defense?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, they have a.
A King
That's encouraging. Incorrect. That's the first thing. He's gonna bleed them out so he can get behind bars regardless.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Correct. Yeah, they are. They are fighting for, you know, fairness in this situation. We don't know how it's going to turn out.
A King
I'm gonna be watching this shit right now really closely. They got big hands.
Mandy B
Well, let's talk about fairness. Jason, can you pull up the clip for this next conversation? Because this is where, by the way, me and a king love talking about our experiences hopping in these goddamn Ubers.
A King
Okay, I might be ignorant.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't know if I'm gonna be the ignorant one in this. Okay, I might be the ignorant one.
Mandy B
By the way, we have four people, Dee. You will have to be the tiebreaker. It's me. But we wanna know who's right and wrong here. Could you play this video, please?
Jason Rodriguez
Yep, here we go.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Fucking, man. Like, this shit is nigga talking about. Don't cuss.
Mandy B
They're trying to take our right. They told me to stop talking on their phone.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
And I am so sickly and tired of men. Now I'm about to keep cussing, but make sure you.
Mandy B
It's crazy. We didn't do anything about.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
You're going to let us out the side.
Mandy B
We're black women.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
We're a black king.
Mandy B
You're supposed to protect us, but you're not.
O
You're not. Exactly.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Okay, so all I ask.
Mandy B
You're supposed to protect black women. You just picked this up from the hospital. Exactly.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Anything about protecting or not protecting, you
A King
get in, you start cussing.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And I said, ladies, please.
A King
Language, please. And you tell.
Mandy B
There's no timeout. Cancel. We're grown women.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Can make sure you. After you cancel, because I'm not going to pay. You're definitely not getting your tip.
Mandy B
Oh, yeah, hold on, cuz.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
You're not even in a Tesla. He's driving the wrong car. He's driving the.
Mandy B
The ab.
A King
Please exit the vehicle.
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Mandy B
So these women took to social media to share about their experience in this Uber. Clearly, y' all heard what happened. The Uber driver respectfully asked them not to curse in their car, and they turned it into misogyny. And patriarchy, baby. But want to know Yalls thoughts on this? Clearly not how they responded. We know the girls here are wrong.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
No.
M
Are they?
Jason Rodriguez
Yeah.
Mandy B
Here we go.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Fuck that nigga and his car. Drive the car, nigga. I pay you to drive the car. Drive the car. Just take me where I gotta go. Like, I get it. It's your personal vehicle, but you signed up to be an Uber driver. Just drive the car. What? I'm talking about me and the conversation. We in the backseat saying whatever we're saying to each other, that's our business. All you gotta do is get us to our destination and get your money. Who the fuck is you?
Mandy B
Do you say that? When you walk to the front door of an establishment and they present you a dress code, they tell you you can't wear something because this is their establishment. We are not going to let you.
Jason Rodriguez
I think this is more like. I would compare this more to, like, you renting your own hotel room and you could do whatever the fuck you want to do inside the car, but
Mandy B
that's not what this is. I disagree with that. I disagree with if you're like. Maybe because none of us are Ubers when people come into our vehicles. I remember when I. If my friends got into my car, even though I'm driving. Baby, you can't eat in my shit. You not gonna smoke cigarettes in my car. This is my car and you're driving around in it and.
Jason Rodriguez
Right, because you're prevent. But in that case, you're trying to prevent damage to your car.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Correct.
Mandy B
But. But also. Okay, okay, okay.
Jason Rodriguez
In your instance, you're trying to prevent damage. He's trying to police behavior.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, yeah, I'm not with that.
A King
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, if you. Like if you. If you're a. A super hyper and you don't want to be around. Vulgar language. Whatever. Put in your AirPods and listen to Kirk Franklin's we get the out the Car. But don't talk to me about what I'm saying back here. I can say whatever the fuck. I'm not cursing at you now. If I was abusing the driver again, by all means. Okay, yeah. Don't curse at me. Don't, you know, whatever. But I'm talking to my friend in the backseat and I said, fuck. And you're like, ah, language, please. Who are you, nigga? Like, I don't remember sitting on it.
A King
Sound like they say way more than fuck.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, they probably did say more than fuck.
Mandy B
I get numbers and talk about sucking dick and eating ass. But if my. You Know I do.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And if context matters here, guys.
Mandy B
No, but if my Uber driver was like, hey, respectfully, can you not have that conversation in my car? I don't think I'm gonna rah rah over it. Like, understood, I'll hold the conversation till I get out the thing.
A King
My only.
Mandy B
See, look at y'.
O
All.
Mandy B
Y' all are ignorant. Y' all don't want to be respectful of people.
A King
I don't think the Uber drivers, and
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
he don't want to be respectful of them.
Charlamagne Tha God
I don't.
Jason Rodriguez
It's not his space. They're literally renting.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm paying you to act like service
Mandy B
is a car ride, but you're still in somebody. When you go and eat at somebody's restaurant, it's their restaurant.
A King
Yes, you're going to see y'.
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Jason Rodriguez
Yeah, but a restaurant is a public space. That's like a bus. That's like comparing a bus to a private car. To me, it's different. Like to me, the exchanges, they've rented out the space. They could say whatever they want as long as they're not damaging his vehicle. The confines of that car is their space for the ride. If they want to curse, if they want to take a phone call, if they just want to be quiet, it's on them.
A King
But see, the thing is, right so one, I'm giving them one star because
Mandy B
for sure y' all are giving these bum bells.
A King
I'm not giving them bum bells.
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A King
I'm not giving them. You know why I'm not giving them bum bill? Because at the end of the day, you know what's at. At question here?
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
What?
A King
Decency.
Mandy B
Yes, that's it. Okay, that's it.
A King
Nobody. The Uber driver. No Uber driver is supposed to police anything, Right? They're just supposed to get you to your destination safely.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's it.
A King
However, this still, which is not in a fine print or the terms and condition, this is just a moral value. Why you got to do all of that? Hey, Ken.
Jason Rodriguez
I'm gonna start calling you Aaron.
A King
Ken.
Rob
Camp.
A King
Where the camp. Camp is great.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
In public all the time. We go anywhere at the Hawks game, whatever the we want to say.
A King
Would you curse around elders?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm sure I have.
A King
Would you vehemently call all kind of sons of. In front of an elder?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
If I'm looking at an old woman, I'm not going to say anything.
A King
Oh, my God, let me curb myself. Because of decency.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
If we're in public, I'm just talking. And anyone who's around me hearing me talk, can Hear the words? I say, yeah.
A King
We give white people so much ammunition
Mandy B
when we take Ubers, we ask them to turn down their radio. I ask Uber drivers, hey, can you
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
get off the phone?
Mandy B
Like, yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Cause I'm the boss now.
Mandy B
But there's an exchange of.
A King
Because you want decency.
Mandy B
So this to me.
A King
And I know those girls don't write cursive. Go ahead.
Mandy B
Oh, my God, you right.
A King
They don't. Because they talking. They don't know how to express.
Jason Rodriguez
Fuck.
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Motherfucker.
A King
Bitch.
Mandy B
Ho, bitch, bitch, bitch. That behavior was embarrassing.
Charlamagne Tha God
If you're.
Jason Rodriguez
If you're. If you're in an Uber and you say, can you turn that down? And they say, no, this is my car, in my space. Are you gonna. Are you gonna knock them on their stars for that?
A King
Most likely they knocking.
Mandy B
Oh, no, I'm knocking their stars down.
A King
Most likely they won't do that, though.
Mandy B
Yeah, no, in Atlanta, they actually
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
try that shit.
Jason Rodriguez
So, Mandy, so for you, when you get into Uber, ultimately, who's in charge? Cause you said earlier, the customer's right. So if you're in the Uber, who's in charge, you or the driver?
Mandy B
I think there's a equal balance of an exchange. No, you fucking don't.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's not what you said. Even exchange. These nuts. There's no even exchange.
Mandy B
First off, let me tell you. Let me tell you this the same way I be tricky on who the hell is out here owning guns. What I'm not gonna do is get snippy with someone who has my life in their hands when someone is behind the goddamn wheel. To be very clear, they run shit. They could speed up. They could fucking crash this bitch. I don't know. And honestly, the way I be talking to these Uber drivers. Their lives be hard.
A King
Man, he should have went through the ball.
Mandy B
Their lives be hard. I'm not sitting here trying to have any sort of turmoil or chaos with someone who has my life in their hands. Are we kidding me? Like, hello?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, if they life is so hard, they should do themselves a favor and make it easy and shut the fuck up and drive the car. Well, that way it's not hard no more. All you gotta do is drive. You don't gotta do nothing else. Just drive the car and shut the fuck up and everything will be okay. You'll be safe.
A King
The Uber driver was being respectful. He wasn't. He was being respectful and they took note of it.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
This is what I'm talking about.
A King
We're not trying to do all this crime. I'm on the side of Decency. I know. He shouldn't police it. Shouldn't have got to that point. They should have been the. I'm assuming they're adults, right? Adult.
Rob
Yeah.
Jason Rodriguez
But so what if he started?
Rob
We don't even.
Jason Rodriguez
By the way, we don't know how he started. He could have said, ladies, watch your tone. He could have used all the triggering language of, ladies, watch that. He could have said, ladies, let's be respectful of yourself.
A King
I do believe they did do that because you heard. You supposed to protect us a black woman. You heard that, right?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. He sounds like an Israelite.
A King
No, no, the girl. The girl said that.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But he sounds like one of them would be like, now, black queens. Y' all are supposed to be.
A King
What's wrong with that?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I thought y' all was supposed to be classy young ladies. You're not acting like a classy.
Mandy B
They were acting like classy.
A King
So now what if he engaged driver. Shut up. Then what?
Mandy B
Okay, so wait a second.
A King
Everybody get a one star.
Mandy B
Okay, let's vote here.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So y' all are on the side.
A King
Everybody get a one.
Mandy B
Who is right here? Is it the passenger or the driver?
M
A king.
A King
I think the.
Mandy B
Who's right here?
A King
Who's right?
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Who's right?
Mandy B
Who's in the right?
A King
They're both in the right, to be honest.
Mandy B
Who's in the wrong?
A King
Ooh, that's a. I see what you did there. We just saw the girls are wrong, which. The girls are wrong for not being.
DJ Envy
Yeah.
Mandy B
Who's wrong?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The driver.
Mandy B
Jason, who's wrong?
Jason Rodriguez
The driver.
Mandy B
I say the girls are wrong. D. We're coming to you.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
We.
Mandy B
Damn. The driver was wrong.
A King
You know what it is? Nah. Here's the problem.
DJ Envy
Here's the issue.
Mandy B
I need to know. In the discord, y'. All, Look, I think there's.
A King
I think I'm gonna tell you what happened. You know why this is triggering for them? Cause they all did that shit.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They all resonate.
A King
They all had to.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm actually gonna tell you why it's triggering. No, because it didn't happen to me. There was a kid case. This was last year, I think, in Atlanta, of course, where there was. It was two this time. It was two black women.
A King
Yeah, we talked about.
P
Yeah.
A King
What happened?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So the woman got picked up from the airport. She had a long day up. Whatever. She had her window cracked or something like that. Oh, no, no. She wanted to air on. That's what it was. The driver had the window cracked. It's fucking July in Atlanta. It's hot as shit.
Mandy B
Okay?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The Passenger asked the driver, hey, can you roll the window up? No. What you mean, no? Like, it's hot in here. I just want to get some air. No, because something about, I don't know if she was trying to prevent smell or air out of car. Whatever it was, she said no. So they get into a beef and the driver stops the car, like on an exit or like, on the highway, pulls over, was like, yeah, this is over. Get out my car. And people in the comment section were saying exactly what you're saying, including some of my homegirls. Was like, that's. They. They can do. You can't tell nobody how to run a car. No, you're an Uber driver. It is your car. But you're an Uber driver. You're not going to put me out on the side of the highway because I'm asking you to do something that makes sense. Now, let's see.
Mandy B
I ain't got a car to Uber drive, cuz. Nigga, you getting out my shit. I'm ending this ride right the fuck now.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But you also wouldn't be having your
Mandy B
window get my shit the same way. If I feel disrespected in my house, I'mma kick you out. If I feel disrespected in what is mine, you do not get to disrespect people. And they. They shit. And so the same way, when it comes to, like, bro, what I be seeing right now on, yeah, my algorithm is all over the goddamn place.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I ain't even gonna hold you.
Mandy B
But there's, like, right now, these YNs fucked up this Airbnb, like, tragically ransacked. And people are like, well, you better have insurance because you renting your house. Like, there's a way that. That we as people. Decency. Decency is so important that you don't get to be indecent when you're in the private also space of someone else. So I think back to Jason's state. These aren't public spaces with rules. These are private spaces. And what do private companies and private schools all get to do? Whatever the fuck they want to do. So, nigga, get the fuck out my car. If you. You don't have the decency to respect me in my shit, I'm you and your luggage. Get the fuck out. Damn, you got me up.
A King
But that's the thing.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Like, as an ignorant driver.
Jason Rodriguez
Take this clip. Y' all talking about Desantis, and y' all talking about J.D. vance and put it together.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Maga would fully agree. Yo, Maga would fully agree.
Mandy B
Let's go to the next topic. We're going to the next one.
A King
I ain't taking no Uber with John.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Jason, we're not taking no Ubers. You gonna put me in a way mode, we never gonna have a problem. You gonna have a fucking robot driving us around, run us off the road, and we don't have to worry about this shit.
Mandy B
Facts. All right, so this one, we do have a clip. Jason, we're gonna talk. Oh, this is gonna be fun, too. Cause this leans into moral standards and people wanting to go where they are not welcome.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Let's talk about now. Watch how I flip. Now. Watch how I flip. Now watch how I flip.
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Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm glad we did these back to back.
Mandy B
Yes, go ahead.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I can't wait.
A King
It might.
Mandy B
You could play the clip for this one.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
The Turkish government banned travelers from docking because of, quote, moral standards. At least 1,000Americans are on board, including passengers from South Florida.
O
Thomas Barker is from Miami. The 10 day trip was a gift to him from his husband.
M
And so there are thousands of men who come to the ship to celebrate and to feel free to be who we are without any fear of homophobia or to be able to be ourselves in a public space.
O
But that freedom of expression was challenged when the ship tried docking in Turkey. The government unexpectedly denied the ship entry because of what they call moral standards. Authorities posted this online. Translated in English, it says a cruise ship chartered by a group known for behavior that does not align with the values and moral standards of our society and that had generated significant concern among various segments of the public, has been canceled. It is absolutely out of the question that this group will come to our province for such an event.
M
I mean, I think what's really disappointing is that we spent a lot of our times as gay people really trying to find safe spaces. And going on this cruise is as about as safe as it's supposed to get, right? And we were excited to go to new places and potentially experience that safe space in places like Turkey and in Egypt, where it is obviously very difficult to be a gay person in those countries.
O
The cruise was then rerouted to Egypt, but at the last minute, the port was also canceled without any explanation.
M
We thought that it would be a great opportunity for those people in those countries to also experience what it's like in the rest of the world, where people can be free and be celebrated for who they are.
O
In a statement, Atlantis Events said in part, they hope this is an isolated incident and to return in the future. They also hope Egypt and Turkey will welcome all Guests without conditions or prejudice.
M
I think it's definitely sort of taken a bit of the magic away, if I can explain it in that way, because it started off with such a high and everyone being so excited to be together and see people.
A King
Nope. So, look, I love it. Go ahead. Look, I haven't been to Saudi Arabia. I would love to, but I know that there's certain things you cannot do that's not acceptable. So weed, for instance. You can't get caught with weed out there. Oh, yeah. A year minimum.
O
Right.
A King
They know they trying to move the gold.
Mandy B
Dubai, too.
A King
They try to move the. Well, yes. They try to move the goal post and try to do reform in real time. My question is, how did they know? Did they have a manifest that said, okay, these people.
Mandy B
Well, this is the LGBTQ boy.
A King
So they thought that they was going to do some activism with a whole country that's been doing this shit for forever, since the inception of decades. Since the inception of what? The other country.
Mandy B
I don't know if y' all remember, especially with the World cup ending. So the last World cup took place in Katie, and there was a whole conversation about this because they were refusing people to wear rainbow clothes and lgbtqia, because, of course, Pride is not a safe space. It's not a safe space. And this is the ignorance of Americans to believe that they can just go into these other countries and be full American in these countries that don't allow. It's the same conversation we had about Bernie Griner. Baby, you can't just be happy having vape pens brought into other countries when there's rules against fucking vapes or THC or. The same way. Our sexuality is kind of even. Kind of dictated here. It's 10, 20, 30 times more in these other countries. You cannot be openly gay. When I went to Qatar maybe like, 15 years ago with. With one of my partners, and he literally had to pay the front desk because we were not married. We couldn't stay in the same room together. When we went out to the clubs, we couldn't dance on each other. There was a respect that we had to adhere to in another country, because that's how the fuck.
A King
Nah, nah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It's not respect. Y' all niggas ain't want to go to jail.
Mandy B
Hello?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It's not respect. Respect is not under the threat of fucking persecution, death, or imprisonment. That's not respect. That's just. Nigga, I don't want to die here, so I'm going to keep my. My pants.
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What up, y'?
P
All?
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. We're at the premiere of Fightland, executive produced by my guy, 50 Cent.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, yeah.
DJ Envy
Now listen, you know you've done a lot on it over here in America. Decided to go to UK for this one.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, this one is different.
DJ Envy
So break it down for people that haven't seen it comes out the 31st. So tell us about Fightland.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, it's exciting. This one is a UK based show. I got Ottawa Bathurst to direct it. So the, the first two episodes he did really dope. And then I got like the other guys that I got to do throughout the season. It's like top notch, bro. So you're going to see this one's going to feel like it's a great. Better than what I did like in Power.
DJ Envy
Really.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I promise that.
DJ Envy
Now for people that haven't seen it yet, it comes out July 31st. Fightland. How would you describe Fightland?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I'd say it's a family crime drama.
DJ Envy
Okay.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Right. And it has an intensity in action that you would, you would, you would feel you received in the action film. And it does things that the other series don't do because we kind of jump timelines throughout the episodes and stuff like this. So you'll see things and go, oh, like things flashing back and things going to different, you know, backwards and forwards.
DJ Envy
I seen the first episode, I didn't see you in it. Are you in this season or are you at any season or. No, cuz usually we'll get a pop up, a 50, a pop up here and there. Are you in Fightland at all?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, I might have to work on my British accent.
DJ Envy
Have you tried?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, no, I did. I. Well, I would have to work on it to do it to get in this movie.
DJ Envy
What keeps you motivated to do it? You don't need the money. It's just like at this point, what is it for?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Nah, it's cool creatively. Like, no, no project is great because of one person. It's a collective, you know what I mean? And what I get a chance to do is communicate what they feel to the network before it gets like. Then they start developing reputations of being difficult or doing things, but they're comfortable expressing how they feel to me, you know what I mean? Now I'm at a stage where I can finance and license the project instead of giving it to the networks for them to own.
DJ Envy
The series premiere of Fightland drops July 31st only on Starz, with new episodes streaming weekly on Fridays.
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Mandy B
at the same time, too, hearing him talk. Bro, if you know, know that Turkey and Egypt are both anti gay, essentially, right? Why the fuck do you want to go parade yourself? Well, also, in a country that is not going to welcome you.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Hold on. They didn't do anything. The cruise. They don't dictate where the cruise goes. They get on the cruise where the cruise is going to.
Mandy B
Knowing where the cruise is going, sure,
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
but the cruise ship knows that too. So if the cruise ship knows, hey, we're going to have this cruise, we're going to invite folks on there, we're going to go to these places. Places. A, why did you take them there if it was going to be a big deal? B, to me, it suggests that this cruise ship has probably been there before and done the same thing before. Now all of a sudden it's a problem. See, this gets gay people all within these countries. And so what is Turkey and Egypt saying? Oh, because we can tell that. I don't know how you can tell this is a gay cruise, but we can tell this is a gay cruise.
Mandy B
Probably like that. I do want to add.
A King
That's what I want.
Mandy B
This particular cruise has successfully docked LGBTQ cruises in Istanbul 13 times. 25 years.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's what I figured.
A King
Okay.
Mandy B
Just like with our country, though, you know what happens? New people get in fucking seats. New people get in control. New people come in and say, what's going to happen and what ain't going to happen? Look at all the things that we had to deal with with FIFA coming, coming into America this year. You know what I mean?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, but the difference is nobody here thought that that shit made any sense. Nobody here thought, oh, we're at war with Iran, so, yeah, the Iranians should fly to Mexico and then fly back to Seattle. Every game. Nobody here was like, oh, these people aren't allowed in here because we have this beef. And of course we can't because we're American. And that's what we say. No, we say, everyone said, that's some fuck shit. Why y' all fucking with these People. And that's what I'm saying about here.
Mandy B
Everyone, to be very clear, everyone did not say that.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
People with good sense, people with good politics said, that is fucked up. Why y' all doing these people like that? It's the same thing here. I get that these countries don't fuck with homosexuality or anything like that, but this idea that they're picking and choosing, oh, this. This ship is pink. We must be some gay people on that ship. We're not gonna let the guy.
Mandy B
This makes me think of like a black person going to Argentina and then coming back complaining that he was treated with racism.
A King
Correct.
Mandy B
Or that he was discriminated against. Against. Babe, you took your ass to Argentina.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm a different kind of black, though. If I go to a bar in America in the wrong redneck ass town, and I walk in there and there, and everybody's looking at me like, what are you doing here, boy? I'm going to order more drinks.
Mandy B
Oh, God.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm going to. Now it's going to be a party
Mandy B
at 10 o' clock at night in a sundown town.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Nigga, you know how I walk around.
A King
I know, but I ain't Mandy. But you're not half white. I'm just saying.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It was right there. What am I supposed to do right there? I'm ordering. I'm ordering shots for the.
A King
But Mandy wouldn't go to sundown.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Now we ordering reposado. Now we ordering. We ordering Michelob Light for everybody in this bitch now. Now, let me.
Mandy B
Let me ask you. Let me ask you.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You're not running me out of nothing.
Mandy B
Jason, as the resident Latina here.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Latino, Latino, Latino, Latino.
Mandy B
I don't do feminino and mascalino and
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
masculino, as we call this episode.
Mandy B
Feminino and masculino.
A King
Masculino is crazy.
Mandy B
Do you and your community have these conversations about where you're accepted or not accepted? Like, are these conversations, too, that you have with your peers?
Jason Rodriguez
Well, last time I hit the group text, I was talking to them about this conversation. No, I mean, I think. I think to Ja's point, like, he's saying it kind of correctly. Like, you have a sense of where you're welcome and not welcome. And some people like to challenge that. Right. And so you might get your Uber driver saying, sir, stop using that language. You know what I mean? So it's that case. I'm shocked. I'm glad you brought up the point about, like, they've successfully done this before in the past, but the seats have changed because that's really, the thing that's been initiating this is the seats have changed. So it's like the community can kind of feel a certain way. But I actually feel like it's a theme throughout this episode. Like with the Muslim and the airline, with the stand your ground with this. There's other people who are dictating towards us, our behavior and what's acceptable, and they're deciding subjectively what's okay for us or not.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But the thing I guess I have a question about is even with the seats thing, right? It ain't like Egypt or Turkey has ever been run by fucking Democratic socialists of America.
Jason Rodriguez
Like, the country is a good job. You know, sometimes there's hardliners, right? Like, sometimes there's like more traditionalist, like, Muslim hardliners who they'll follow it to the T by the Quran. And then sometimes there's other people who it's less like based on religion and more based on, like, power, right? So, like right now there's just a group of people on power who are like, hardline religious sect. And what they say is like, this is how the book goes. And it's that.
A King
Yeah, it's.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
It's. It's giving that they have a closeted Eisenhower running the show over there. And they've decided, right, They've decided to have a lavender scare in Turkey and in Egypt because now all of a sudden, they don't want to be outed for their.
A King
Okay, they probably align with that ideology, the Maga. Magaology, you know what I mean?
M
So.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, yeah, MAGA is definitely global. I think people should start to understand that too. Like, this idea of what's going on here is not limited to America.
M
America.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
There's lots of other world leaders who feel. Exactly.
Jason Rodriguez
Turkey's a part of that. It's like Turkey, Italy, Colombia, like the populace, right? The populists who are like.
Mandy B
I mean, there's certain countries within the African continent. I don't know if you can look it up. I think Uganda's one of them. But there's certain countries that also will kill you if you are gay. You cannot be open about it. There's like, you will be imprisoned. I think if I'm not mistaken, Ghana was one of those as well.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, I'm about to say that ended
Mandy B
up, like, looking into that when we were in Ghana. Like, bitch, I don't know, we could be dancing on each other out here. Girl, we ain't finna go to jail. Cause they might think we bumping coochies.
Jason Rodriguez
So, like, Cameroon, Cameroon.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I Think Nigeria might even be on that as well, where it's like, yeah, you know, it's gonna be a problem out here.
Mandy B
And so to me, yes, I mean, you know, we've luckily been a part of a country that only also by certain states allow you to be gay.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Right.
Mandy B
It's not even a federally mandated acceptance here in this country. So, you know, the same way some states you gonna be able to get abortions, some, not some, you gonna be able to get married as a gay person. You not when you travel abroad, you can't think that all of your beliefs in the way that you exist is going to be accepted. It's just literally the American ignorant way of fucking thinking.
A King
Why are you gay? Why are you gay?
Mandy B
Why are you gay?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I guess what it is for me, I'm never going, like, if there's a situation like that where there is like, okay, this is how get down is how we get down. I'm never going to. I'm not one to really capitulate to the wrong side of it. I don't care if that's your morals and your standards. I don't care if you're wrong. You wrong. And so that's what probably makes me ignorant, because I'm trying to fuck up your shit.
A King
Yes.
Mandy B
Oh, I ain't gonna hold you.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I'm trying to make a scene of your bullshit standard or your bullshit rules. Like, I'm that guy.
Mandy B
Nah, fuck that. Take me back to 2014, 2015, 2016, when I was a solid 220,
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
the
Mandy B
Meatpacking District, the white clubs, the upscale places in New York did not welcome me. I was charged at the door. Same for la. There's certain places that as a black woman of a certain size, I was not welcome into spaces. I got treated poorly at the door. When I tell you as soon as I did not feel welcome, y' all will never get my fucking money. Y' all will never see me again. And so for me, I have never been a person who felt the need to go to spaces or feel like I had to be in spaces where I was not welcomed. And as someone black and someone thick and big, listen, as a woman, certain places it becomes hard to get into if you don't look a certain way. And when I tell you, once I realized that place didn't want me in there, I don't want to be in here.
A King
I get it.
Mandy B
So, you know, I feel you go ahead and tote your gun, wave it around and buy them shots in the sundown town. Listen, crack ass, Crackers, listen. Well, let's get into for celebrities say the Darndest things. We're gonna lean into possible right message, wrong messenger. Now we'll start off with Tristan Thompson, who gave the advice to Klay to just be quiet. And a lot of people felt like he was the wrong messenger for this advice in terms of Clay actually coming out and finally responding to the cheating allegations from Meg Thee Stallion. He's also someone who has not stayed quiet. We just talked about him not too long ago, sitting with Khloe Kardashian and explaining his bullshit. But I wanted to ask y', all, and I wanted to have fun with it this. I wanted to know if there are any celebrities that could say something that sounded right, but because of who they are and where they've leaned into, we just don't want to hear it from them, even if they're right. So, like, for example, say Kim Kardashian talking about climate change. Babe, we saw you cry over that diamond that fell into the ocean. We know that you take private jets. We know what those fuel admissions do into the universe. I would also say I never want to hear Dababy talk about gay rights or have him, even if he learned against it.
O
Right?
Mandy B
Yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I was gonna say if. Depending on maybe he. People that do the work.
Mandy B
I need to know what the work was. I never wanna hear Jess. Hilarious. Talk about trans rights or Muslims, because, baby, can you slam your cup down real hard?
A King
The ice.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, okay.
A King
Ice is too cold.
Mandy B
What I'm saying is, when people speak out so much against or their behaviors go against something, they're the last person I want to hear in a campaign or messaging. Even if their celebrity does bring more eyes to a certain culture. Yeah.
A King
I mean, we're not perfect.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No.
A King
And you can evolve and grow and learn. Tristan Thompson probably learned from his ways, and he wants to give advice, you know, to someone in his peerdom. He's like, yo, bro, just.
Mandy B
But that's why I said, I need to see the work. I need to know what the work was, to know that you are not still in your ignorance.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, well, I mean, this is. And we talked about this shit a little bit last week with Antwin about communication. Right. Communication works two ways. It's what you say and what they understand, what is heard. When you're speaking to somebody, and the idea is that you want to communicate yourself clearly enough that they take you seriously. Or in this case, if you're a celebrity or some public figure, you need to not be perfect, but you need to maintain Some level of credibility, dignity or otherwise about what it is that you're saying.
Mandy B
Mind you, this came about. This came about as a topic as well. Because me talking about the misinformation that spread online in regards to the history of the kkk, niggas literally was in the comments. Maybe. Cause I'm biracial, acting like I couldn't talk about the history of the kkk. I'm like, wrong messenger, bitch.
Jason Rodriguez
What the fuck?
A King
That's only because of your.
Mandy B
I had African American studies year one in college.
A King
But you know what that is? That's more so. Because they know that you will respond and you have white. No, I'm saying that's. That's it.
Mandy B
I can't talk about African American history
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
because I'm half white?
A King
No, that's. No, that's just. That's the Internet. You know how they just like the Internet.
Jason Rodriguez
Is there. Is there any credible message you would take from somebody like Safari or like Ray J? They have experience. They have experience.
Mandy B
You know what they have?
Jason Rodriguez
They have real life experience.
A King
Ray J telling you about sex education.
Mandy B
You know what? Here's the thing. And I didn't. No, no, no. You know what's crazy? On the bonus episode. And it was really. It was all the way at the end. So I don't know if people heard it. I would. Absolutely. And I do think that Ray J could. He could be a spokesperson for Gilead and getting tested and at least sharing results. Because in a conversation that he was having, he was openly talking about STDs. And yes, he said he liked the ones you could get rid of.
Jason Rodriguez
He was.
Mandy B
The tattoos, the ones that don't go nowhere. But I do think that there is benefit in a black man Openly talking about STDs, openly acknowledging that he knows what he has. There's a lot of black men that don't even do that. You know what I mean?
A King
Well, we had to find a boss of that already. What that said he had the biggest one.
Mandy B
Who you talking about? Magic Johnson.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Mandy B
I mean, but he specifically asked about Safaree and Ray J for Safaree.
Jason Rodriguez
That's like the premise of, like, Scared Straight, right? Like, it's people who went through it who are able to explain it and hov did that.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So hopefully you won't have to go through that.
Mandy B
Oh, God. I'm not gonna lie. I don't know if there's anything Safaree could tell me. I don't. I mean, how to wind his hips. I don't know what is Safaree. I don't know if there's anything that I care. I don't know if he has. I don't know if he's smart. I don't know anything about Safaree outside of the fact that he was Nicki Minaj's backup dancer and that he manipulated and chased Erica Mena just to leave her with two kids. And being a single mother, like, I don't know much of what he's done or given to culture or what he has to say about much of anything, honestly.
Jason Rodriguez
So for right message, wrong message, messenger. The, the. What makes it the wrong messenger is. Is it like they're, they're like you said, safari. Like, I don't know if he's not that smart or. Because presumably if they went through the experience, they're a good messenger.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's what you would think.
A King
I think it's because it's pat. The patterns that they've, they've displayed over the years is not favorable. So it's like, fuck, I'm listening to you for.
Mandy B
Yeah, like, like Safaree coming out and discussing how to love a woman. But seeing his behavior, I just don't know if that's what would make you the wrong messenger. And that's the thing. A lot of people get on these microphones and have opinions about things, but their behavior goes as like, oh, you're just giving us a word salad. Oh, you're just telling us what we think or what you think people want to hear. But you don't live life this way. Which is why I come on here and I talk from. This is why my opinions are not favored in society, because they come from my lived experience and people may disagree with them, but at least I'm coming from a place of what I believe. And when I'm wrong, we hop on this mic and we correct ourselves. I think I'm an ever evolving person. I think that people choose to continue in their ignorance, but out of their mouth they wanna be right, if that makes sense.
A King
You gotta have some credibility factor.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, there's opposing forces at play too, right? Like cynicism in society is like an all time high. Nobody believes anything that they see in the public sector. Everyone is lying. Everyone has an ulterior motive. Oh, he just said that because he's paid. Oh, you work for ROC Nation. That's why you said that. Like it's always a thing that someone will come up with as to why the person saying whatever they're saying is not being in good faith.
Mandy B
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DJ Envy
What up, y'?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
All?
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. We're at the premiere of Fightland, executive produced by my guy, 50 Cent. Yeah, now listen, you know you've done a lot on it over here. America decided to go to UK for this one.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, this one is different.
DJ Envy
It's a break. Break it down for people that haven't seen it comes out the 31st. So tell us about Fightland.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, it's exciting. This one is a UK based show. I got Ottawa Bathurst to direct it. So the first two episodes he did really dope. And then I got like the other guys that I got to do throughout the season. It's like, top notch, bro. So you're gonna see this one is gonna feel like it's a grade better than what I did like in Power.
DJ Envy
Really?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I promise that.
DJ Envy
Now for people that haven't seen it yet, it comes out July 31st. First fight man. How would you describe fighting?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I'd say it's a family crime drama.
DJ Envy
Okay.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Right. And it has an intensity and action that you would, you would, you would feel you received in an action film. And it does things that the other series don't do because we kind of jump timelines throughout the episodes and stuff like this. So you'll see things and go, oh, like things flashing back and things going to different, you know, background and forwards.
DJ Envy
I seen the first episode. I didn't see you in it. Are you in this season or are you at any season or. No, cuz usually we'll get a pop up a 50. A pop up here and there. Are you in Fightland at all?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, I might have to work on my British accent.
DJ Envy
Have you tried?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, no, I did. I. Well, I would have to work on it to do it, to get in this.
DJ Envy
What keeps you motivated to do it. You don't need the money. Is this like, at this point? What is it for?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Nah, it's cool Creatively, like. No, no project is great because of one person. It's a collective, you know what I mean? And what I get a chance to do is communicate what they feel to the network before it gets like they start developing reputations of being difficult or doing things, but they're comfortable expressing how they feel to me, you know, now I'm at a stage where I can, you know, finance and license the project instead of giving it to the networks for them to own.
DJ Envy
The series premiere of Fightland drops July 31st only on Starz, with new episodes streaming weekly on Fridays.
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Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
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Mandy B
Now here we go. I got a clip. Okay, I got a clip. Could you play the white man? And I'm not sure what radio show or podcast this is, but he goes in to just play the clip.
O
But see, like, my taste in black women is a little bit more refined than the average black woman you find nowadays. Like, I like the Lauren Hill type of black women. You know, the Pam Greer or the Tisha Campbell kind of black women. Okay? Why is it every time I walk through a mall or I walked into a convenience store, all the women there look like glowrilla or sexy red? It's like those women just look like science experiments from the CIA meant to destroy. Destroy black community. So, like, if you're saying that, hey, man, do you think like, low relative sexy?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Hell no.
O
Now if you got me a girl that looked like Patrice Russian then, all day, every day, let's get it cracking. But I'm not gonna curse my children with a mother that goes, ski phone them.
DJ Envy
Ain't no way.
O
Just ain't no way. Jimmy is too.
Mandy B
Is the.
O
The disgusting hair colored hair they have nowadays. Whatever happened to afros and looking like you're Garnet from Steven Universe Universe now they all got like red hair with green highlights. Like, look at Kanye West's daughter. It's like, baby girl, you do not need aquamarine hair to make yourself look beautiful. You are beautiful the way you already were born. I don't need. I don't need no girl to look like Hasanumiku. Oh, my gosh, bro.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
A lot going on.
Mandy B
So this is a message. It's a not bad message, but possibly wrong messenger.
A King
So let's get to the intellectual potluck.
Mandy B
Let's cook it together.
A King
Intellectual potluck. Let's go.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, the first thing he about to rap.
A King
I see the hand going though.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The first thing is like he's doing this thing where it's like, it's wildly racist.
DJ Envy
Is it?
O
Yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Okay, yes, it's wildly racist. But he's also trying to.
Sprite Living Track List Announcer (alternate)
To.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He's also trying to find a soft space that he can Land to express his preference, I guess. And naming Tisha Campbell and Patrice Rushton is like a very specific type of black woman that I'm like. I'm surprised you even know who Tisha Campbell is.
Mandy B
But I love that he understands that black is not a monolith. And so for me, I'm not gonna hold you. I say it all the time because I fuck women. I don't like the lace wigs. I don't like the super crayons, for sure. So to me, this. This is. If a black man were to say this on any of these black pods, no one would say anything.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't think that's true at all.
Mandy B
Wait, you don't think a black man could say that he doesn't want a sexy rap type, but he wants a refined, natural type?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yes. I think that it's worse that a white man said it. That's. I think that's. You always can never just leave that part out. Like, it's a white man talking like that. So that's always gonna get your spidey senses up.
O
Like, hold on.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Who the fuck.
A King
So maybe he date black women. That's why.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
So let me get to that, though.
Mandy B
Okay?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The version of that clip that I saw wasn't that clip. It was a clip from OG Big Matt.
A King
Okay? Oh, yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You know OG Big Matt.
A King
Yes, yes, of course. Shout out to OG Big Matt.
Mandy B
Yeah.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And OG Big Matt is loved on Instagram because most of the time, he is on the right side of the politic that people feel is appropriate for the time being. OG Big Mac is also married to a white white woman.
Mandy B
Okay.
Charlamagne Tha God
Yes.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And his response to this was, oh, well, I'm not mad at this guy, because what he's saying has some merit, because he mentioned people like Tisha Campbell and Patrice Rushing, but he also went on to OG Big Matt, also replied by saying, so it's talking about the greatness of black women in general. I think the problem is that everyone has their preferences. Everyone has likes and dislikes. But when you start talking about, like, a science experiment and cursing my family and the CIA, and these look like you've gone too far. You're not talking about your prejudice. You're going out of your way.
A King
These are narratives that's already. That already exist. This is a narrative that exists before he said that.
Mandy B
Thank you from us.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But those are misogynistic narratives.
Mandy B
They're not. And I disagree. It's the same way as the black community. We are like. And when I say we, people who do like to See us more refined. We cringe at a Zeus network. We cringe at the stereotypes being pushed to the media.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Those are respectability, politics, news.
Mandy B
No, but let's talk about it, too. There's still a lot of people that question why Sexyy Ray got the push and platform that she did, but a rap city doesn't.
A King
But we trying to aim for black excellence.
Mandy B
But we're trying. And so to me, I'm not mad at. At any win. You said a black man couldn't have even said that he would get cooked. I disagree.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They say it all the time.
Mandy B
Me and the black man.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He sounds like Marlon Gay all the time.
Mandy B
Me, all the time. I say it all the time.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's exactly how he talks.
Mandy B
I don't want a nigga with Bedazzlement.
A King
No, he don't like black women at all. He ain't naming Patricia Rushmore.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, no, no, no, no. Myron Gaines doesn't like black women because he thinks black women are sexy Red, whatever that means to him.
A King
Right.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And Glorilla, whatever that means to him, he's acknowledging black.
Mandy B
That that's not the case here. So, like, for me, as a black woman, I want an educated, well kept, clean cut black man. I don't want a hood booger. I'm sorry,
Jason Rodriguez
for context of who this guy is, because you guys are both saying some good points, but. So his name is Fawcett, he's a streamer, and he has a lot of large play streaming on Kick. And Kick is where you get like the Aiden Rosses.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. I'm about to say, you know, you
Jason Rodriguez
already know Kick MAGA adjacent, folks. So that's kind of the sandbox that he plays in. Who's saying this?
Mandy B
I'm still not mad. And I think anyone should be able to say that. No. Race is a monolith. Right? So to me, him coming out and saying that he prefers that he still loves black women, but he wants his black woman to look a certain way is no different than me as a black woman. Saying that even in me only dating black men, there's a certain black man.
A King
I don't want you.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He's very different. He's a white man. Also, he's not just saying the black women that I like. There was no reason to even bring Glorilla or Sexyy Red or Northwest into none of that. He could just say, when I dated black, the question that someone proverbially sent him was, would you date a black woman?
O
Sure.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I love black women. Like Tisha Campbell and Patrice Rushton. And go about your business.
Mandy B
Right?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He didn't care. You're taking your opportunity to kick somebody's back in just because you think that that shit is ghetto and ugly and niggery. That's pretty much. Except calling them niggers science experiments created by the CIA.
Mandy B
I mean, what y'.
Charlamagne Tha God
All.
Mandy B
You're tapping in, that's all. I ain't gonna hold you. I ain't gonna hold you. When I watch Zeus. I wouldn't fuck any of them bitches.
O
Sure.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Yuck.
Mandy B
So if we are sitting here. If I could sit here and say that we as people are anti the behaviors and the way that they portray themselves, even on tv, I'm saying me as a person, I would not fuck or be with a person who dresses or looks or behaves in that manner. I don't think it's wrong for anybody. Especially if he's saying he loves them, he dates them. I like black women. He's not being racist about it. He's saying, but this is the type that I like. I think if we are a place that allows preferences and types in the way that y' all do, what is the problem with expressing that out loud?
Jason Rodriguez
The messenger. The messenger's the problem.
O
See, here we go.
Mandy B
The messenger's the problem.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The white man part of it can never be stripped away from the conversation. You saying that is not the same thing as him saying.
Mandy B
But I'm only bringing that up because he's not even saying it.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I don't think he could either.
Mandy B
You're saying a black man couldn't do that either?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, I think black men have gotten cooked for saying that same type of shit for years and years and years. I don't think that is new. I don't think him getting cooked is specific to him being a white. Yeah, he's the wrong messenger.
Mandy B
So a man is the wrong messenger, cuz. Am I going to get cooked for saying I wouldn't fuck with someone? That's.
O
They might.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
We'll find out when the clips happen.
Jason Rodriguez
Mandy, you're saying your preferences. He's not setting it up as his preferences.
A King
Right.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I think that's it.
A King
Yes, that's it.
Jason Rodriguez
This is better than this, than this right here.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And the preference is the bulletproof vest of like, oh, I'm not racist. I'm just saying what I like. I'm not misogynist. I'm just saying what I like. That's exactly how dusty red pill manosphere niggas talk about it.
A King
That's exactly how they talk about, if
Jason Rodriguez
I had a Man, talk more about it.
A King
If you had a choice.
Mandy B
Next week, Akim about to give me a problematic ass and you have to
A King
say you have to pick one.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Okay.
Mandy B
This or that.
A King
Glorilla or Sexy Red? Which one do you let touch it?
Rob
Ooh.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, I'm a none. No, none is not an option.
Mandy B
I would be a nun.
A King
I think she gonna pick one.
Mandy B
I gotta eat they pussy.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Of course you should say Glory.
A King
I said, you got one of them touch it you.
Mandy B
I let them touch me.
Rob
Yeah, yeah.
O
Glory.
A King
Hold style, touch. Touch is subjective.
Mandy B
They gotta glory old style. They gotta be in a whole ski mat. I don't like. I don't want to see him. I put my pussy through a hole.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I was going to say a woman Gloria. Is that a thing? No, I can't imagine. But it might be something a woman Gloria.
Mandy B
Oh, got to have.
A King
That's crazy.
Mandy B
I don't. I'm not sexually and mind. You got to interview Sexyy Red. I think she's dope and cool. You set that up for us?
A King
Yes, yes.
Mandy B
Would I want to be intimate with either one of them? Absolutely not.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
But that's fine.
Mandy B
Like, to be fair.
A King
No, I just want.
Mandy B
I even find Brandon Ingraham to be disgusting now, because that's who.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
He's got a lot going on.
Mandy B
I don't even like him choosing her as his partner. Makes me be like e yuck. I'm sorry. I judge niggas by who they fuck and Brennan Ingram is E yuck to me now.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, that's fair. I just think there's a huge difference. Like, I can say what I like without saying what I hate. Like, it's real simple to do. I don't have to kick nobody's back in. I don't have to talk about nobody's gender or nobody how they look or whatever they do. I could just be like, what do you like? Do you like vanilla ice cream? Do you like cookies and cream? Do you like mint chocolate chip? Yeah, I don't have to. What do they call it?
Rob
Yuck.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Your yum.
Mandy B
I heard that. But even your this or that. Let's move it to. If I was talking about men, this or that is comparable to me and you asking me boosie or Charleston White?
A King
Jesus Christ.
Mandy B
Like, that's what. Like, tough.
M
Wow.
Mandy B
So I think that we should be able to identify that there are differences even in preferences. And we should be able to say it. And I don't care how much you don't like it.
Jason Rodriguez
Nigga preferences is fine. Hierarchies is not Yo, I was scrolling
Mandy B
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DJ Envy
What up, y'?
Rob
All?
DJ Envy
It's DJ Envy. We're at the premiere of Fightland, executive produced by my guy, 50 Cent. Yeah, now listen, you know you've done a lot on it over here in America. Decided to go to UK for this one.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, this one is different.
DJ Envy
So break it down for people that have. It comes out the 31st. So tell us about Fightland.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Yeah, it's exciting. This one is a UK based show. I got Ottawa Bathurst to direct it. So the first two episodes he did really dope. And then I got like the other guys that I got to do throughout the season. It's like, top notch, bro. So you're gonna see this one's gonna feel like it's a grade better than what I did like in Power.
DJ Envy
Really?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I promise that.
DJ Envy
Now for people that haven't seen it yet, it comes out July 31st. Fight Lamp. How would you describe fighting?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
I'd say it's a family crime drama.
DJ Envy
Okay.
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
Right. And it has an intensity and action that you would, you would, you would feel you received in the action film. And it does things that the other series don't do because we kind of jump timelines throughout the episodes and stuff like this. So you'll see things and go, oh, like things flashing back and things going to different, you know, backwards and forwards.
DJ Envy
Seen the first episode? I didn't see you in it. Are you in this season or are you at any season or. No, cuz usually we'll get a pop up a 50. A pop up here and there. Are you in Fightland at all?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No. I might have to work on my British accent.
DJ Envy
Have you tried?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
No, no, I did. I. Well, I would have to work on it to do it, to get in
Jason Rodriguez
this a little bit.
DJ Envy
What keeps you motivated to do it? You don't need the money. Is this like at this point?
L (possibly a UK-based actor or producer)
What is it for N It's cool creatively. Like no one, no project is great because of one person. It's a collective, you know what I mean? And what I get a chance to do is communicate what they feel to the network before it gets like they start developing reputations of being difficult or doing things, but they're comfortable expressing how they feel to me, you know what I mean? Now I'm at a stage where I can finance and license the project instead of giving it to the networks for them to own.
DJ Envy
The series premiere of Fightland drops July 31st only on Starz, with new episodes streaming weekly on Friday Fridays.
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Mandy B
All right, well, let's get into the last topic.
Jason Rodriguez
Here we go.
Mandy B
Let's play this clip and this is where we'll talk about two. If y' all felt anything was wrong. If also the messenger was wrong here. Cause it's the child to the parent and oh, I saw.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh yeah, I saw this one.
Mandy B
Last topic of the pod. Let's get into it. This was a. Everybody podding my own house. My, you really are on drugs. You need to find me an amex card. You need to find me more clothes. You know what I mean? Like, there's so much to build. Like how you said you're still going. Going up. We can go up together. This doesn't have to be a you thing. It can be a we thing.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And then when I'm older and I have nothing.
Mandy B
Nursing home.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And I need you to take care.
P
Nursing home.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You can't do that.
Mandy B
Nursing home.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You're not gonna do that.
O
Two words.
Mandy B
That.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
She's hilarious. So you put your dad in a nursing home.
Charlamagne Tha God
Nursing home.
Mandy B
Well, what else would I do? Take care of you myself. How about that?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Or put me in your home and have 24 hours nursing assistant.
A King
Absolutely.
Mandy B
In my house with my kids.
A King
She's, she's effectively in my car and
Mandy B
my husband in my pool in my guest room.
A King
I'm just your dad now.
Mandy B
Exactly.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
The one that made it all possible.
A King
She's not in the truck.
Mandy B
I would love you from a distance, dad. You know I love you from a distance. We better that way. My heart though.
A King
I want more of this. I want more of this.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. I want to say I don't want to see him debating no Republicans. I don't want to see him debating no other sports figure. I just want him and his daughter on the screen, on the microphone.
A King
More of that. Stephen A.
Jason Rodriguez
And just with the nephew every once in a while.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
With the nephew every once in a while.
Mandy B
Now, what's crazy is a lot, a lot of people said the exact opposite of you and was like, this is cringe. Don't Want to see it? How dare she say that to her father?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I love it.
A King
I don't believe she's serious. I do believe she's performing. I do believe she's from the line of shit Stephen A. Smith and she doing it. She understands content.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
She understands content. She understands the tone of voice suggested to me that she knows exactly what she.
A King
The way she did it so quick
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
and why she said nursing home. Like, that's a performance. She's not gonna do that. That's a performance.
A King
He'll write her ass to the choice.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That's a great performance, though. I love it. I love it. She's a star.
A King
I love it.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Thoroughly entertained.
Mandy B
So do y' all find a problem with someone saying to their parents, I'll put you in a nursing home, you
A King
can't stay with me? I don't believe she's gonna do that.
Mandy B
No, in general, because. Are y' all fucking kidding me? Nursing home?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Well, listen, I don't want anyone in
A King
my space, but it's not. It's not that type. You don't want to care for them,
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
which is a different thing.
A King
That's being in the space. Because you're not gonna be them being in a space. They're confined to it. That's the reason why they're gonna be in your place. So it's just a matter of, at that point, you have to care for them. That's the part you probably don't want to do.
Mandy B
Yeah. Cause he did say the 24 hour.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah. Have a right.
A King
He's rich. I'm pretty sure they'll have it set up.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And he'll have a big old house.
A King
He'll have an annex.
Mandy B
But this is. It's crazy because whenever I have the conversation about not wanting children.
Right.
The first thing immediately is like, well, who's gonna take care of you when you're old? And when we talk about you saying, well, they have a big house. They have all this space. The majority of people are struggling right now. Can't afford a 24 hour nurse. Don't have extra bedrooms. No, I'm talking about the majority of.
A King
Oh, yeah.
Mandy B
Of America. So this idea that anyone has to now bring in their parents and care for them, it's not realistic. It's not a realistic ask. It's not a feasible ask.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Everybody's not equipped for that.
Mandy B
And so this is maybe not for Stephen A. Smith, but this is a common response. And I saw so many people upset that this was the response. And maybe because of the wealth, but for most of America, I Believe a nursing home is what's the most.
A King
Every parent knows their kid. They know if their kid is gonna be willing to do something like that. And hopefully they would set it up where that wouldn't even be a conversation.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Okay.
A King
Cause you don't want miscare from your own offspring, right? But if you know the hand, that's where you tend to lean towards. And if the hand is not, you know, there to be in care, then, yeah, you might have to go to nursing home.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I mean, my mom has always said, like, even when she was in her, like, 40s, she was like, yeah, when it's time to move out of. Of, like, the house and we old as hell, like, yeah, send me to senior citizens joint and let us just go back to it.
A King
My mom will always say that.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
She always. She said that for years she said that, so she's not tripping off of it.
A King
But guess what? When it was time, I think we changed my mind.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I think that's the sentiment, right?
Mandy B
You said.
Jason Rodriguez
I think the sentiment is like, you know, you take care of your kids, and you don't want your kids to take care of you.
A King
Right?
Jason Rodriguez
And so I think for everybody in
Mandy B
a nursing home, I would like that to be just an okay sentiment to have because, like. Like, it does become a burden. And it becomes like, why would you want my life to become difficult in your old age when we all know we gonna get old? Like, there should be convers. And you know what's crazy? Now that I think about it? I've had the conversation with my mom, with what she wants to do in her passing. She wants to be cremated and put into the ocean. But I don't think. Now that I think about it, we've had the conversation about old age because my mom is. Baby, she gonna be trucking, if you ask me. She gonna be working till she in the 70s.
A King
Who gonna take care of.
Mandy B
Oh, I'm finna be. I'm finna hire somebody. I don't want none of my. I don't want any of my family. First off, my sisters. Oh, no. None of my sisters. I don't want my mama to do it.
A King
Can you imagine old Mandy? She probably give everybody fits.
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Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah.
Mandy B
To me.
I'm not gonna lie. In my old age, I would like to hopefully be in a position to hire care. But, I mean, my mom is a nurse, but she gonna be older than me or not here anymore. And none of my sisters are nurses. I can't think that any of my sisters would know what the fuck to do. With me, you know what I mean?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I mean, all kind of shit at play too, right? We're talking about, like, old is one thing. Infirmed is something different. So, like, you can just. You can be 95 years old and still be able to wipe your own ass, and it just is what it is. Or you could be 72 and be in bad shape and need constant care, and everybody a isn't equipped for that, willing to do that. And that's just like you said, it's not. I don't think that's realistic for most Americans.
Mandy B
I mean, and that's the thing too, right? Like, I know that dementia runs in my family. If it becomes difficult like that. Like, I have, like, BPD bipolar people with, like, neurological, you know, issues that I choose not to deal with if I am faced with dementia, I don't want to be that burden on anybody. And I think that there's a level
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
of
Mandy B
awareness that I think even in old age, we should have to. Where as old parents, we shouldn't want to be a burden onto our children. We shouldn't want them to have to deal with the emotional labor or emotional abuse of what's to come once you start, you know, declining. And so I don't know. I'm not mad at her saying this because I ain't gonna hold you. Stephen A. Smith at his healthiest. I couldn't imagine putting up with that nigga in old age. Oh, my God.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Plus, let's be fair. Plus, a, like Stephen A. Smith is probably gonna hire like five only fans, girls, and they gonna be like, taking care of them and shit. Like, that nigga's not gonna have no regular. That nigga's not gonna have no old lady. He's gonna be perfectly happy in whatever situation that he figures out. That had nothing to do with my daughter having to come and change my depends every day.
A King
She won't.
Mandy B
Do you feel, though, that that narrative is a healthy one for us overall? Like, that as children, we are supposed to be take care of our parents in old age and for parents and vice versa. Do you think it's fair that to have children just to take care of you when you get old? Oh, the conversation, the expectation. Cause the conversation is what we're having now. But to me, I think it's almost put as an expectation and you're looked at as a bad person. Like, people are like nursing home. Like, there's also society's input or opinion that you're not a good child if you choose not to take care of your parents. In old age. And then also as parents, there's people. Cardi said, I like having these kids. Cause I need people to take care of me when I get old. That's also, to me, an expectation that you're putting on people that I don't think is realistic.
A King
Well, they gotta have those conversations with their kids.
O
I agree.
Mandy B
And that's why I'm realizing I didn't have the conversation.
A King
That's what I'm saying.
Mandy B
I need to have it.
A King
I'm just going through that. And it was like, my mom always said, I don't want y' all taking care of me. But me, I'm like, but I would never not do it. You know what I mean? Cause I know that it wouldn't. That's my mom. Right? That's just my. You know, I. I'm. I'm thankful that I was able to participate in that. It's just a matter of having a conversation. And to your point, it's not wrong to not want to be able to do that either. If you don't have the bandwidth or you. You not. You don't think you can tolerate that, that is absolutely fine. But conversations are. Are. Are necessary. I hope that people are commenting and watching this do the fake outrage. I hope y' all are having a conversation with your parents. Probably having niggas just talk to what your expectations are.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Niggas just talking. But also, I think some of it is cultural. Not like black culture, but, like, for immigrant families and things like that. Sometimes the idea is like, no, we all live together. Like, the family is the family. There is no, like, you're over there, I'm over there. Whoop de whoopty whoop. If you have an elder who is infirmed, if you have a cousin who is down bad, like, whatever the case is, like, we all stay in the same house or in the same neighborhood.
A King
So you're already there.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You're already there. The community is already established. Established for us to be able to help each other. And sometimes for. If. If you don't grow up inside of that kind of culture with that kind of idealism, you just like. Like the daughter, like, all right, nursing home for you. I'm gonna go about my life in my pool, in my house with my husband and my kids. And you be over there, and we'll come holla at you on Thursdays, I think.
A King
Don't act like a dick either.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I will say, be happy that I'm here.
Mandy B
I will say, in terms of the need for conversation. You said the conversation needs to be had with your parents. I will say also, this is a conversation to be had in romantic partnerships.
A King
Yes.
Mandy B
Because if you're gonna be cohabitating, like, you don't know if your spouse is aligned with moving in their parents in old age. And now that becomes a burden that you have to take on as well. So this is a conversation that also needs to be had in romantic partnerships.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
And honestly, and I hear this conversation more about. About men and getting married than I even do about kids. I know a lot of women who are like, look at these old n with nobody. And they think they still in the club. They think it's cute. But when you get old, you're not gonna have a wife to help you out. You're not gonna have a partner to help you out. You're just gonna die alone and be like Kevin Samuels.
Mandy B
I just hate that rhetoric because again, and this is, I think what men need to do better at is friendships. Like when people talk about dying old or dying with nobody there, baby, I got a community around me. I have no fear in saying that I don't want to be married, saying that I don't want children and that I fear dying alone. I have really good friends in my system now. I done cut a lot of these bitches off because I realize they're not good. But the ones that are still in my life, I have that are strong. I have very good male friends in my life. I have four that I still think would always show up for me. And so to me, this idea that only your romantic partners or your children or who's gonna watch you after age, we all create communities and villages around us. And I think that that needs to be pressed as what's more important, not just that your kids or your husband gonna be the only ones. When you build community and you live life as a good person and a giving person and a caring person, you're never gonna be alone.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
No, I'm with you 1,000%. And I think that's an important point to make because you're right. Like, you talk about, about your family and then the family that you choose and like, who you surround yourself with, who do you trust? Who do you know will show up for you? Who do you know actually loves you, cares for you, and wants to do those things for you. And people are wrapped up in that romance of like, my husband, my wife, as if that's the only thing you'll ever have once you get married. And that's just not true.
Mandy B
It's just not true.
Jason Rodriguez
It could be an Uber driver.
Mandy B
It could be an Uber driver.
O
Cares about you.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Who cares for you the most? Wants you to be deep decent. We putting decent right along with Grace decent.
Mandy B
No, fuck Grace.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Decency and Grace are all going to the same place.
Mandy B
Grace ain't invited nowhere, child. I don't like that hoe. Anywho, Jason, I love having you. We gotta talk. We gonna talk. Cause, baby, the way our calendar just. Well, you know, the summertime tricky. We got a lot of travels coming up.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Things is happening.
Mandy B
A lot of moving pieces. But we are trying to get up there at the end of the month.
A King
I'm so mad.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I did this whole episode with this goddamn AirPods. There some real unk. They going to be like, look at this old ass. Un ass.
Mandy B
I wonder if that was you because I kept getting an AirPod notification on my iPad.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, maybe.
Sprite Living Track List Announcer
See?
A King
And you had one son. I had one.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yeah, you had one. I had one in.
Jason Rodriguez
Did you.
Mandy B
Were you getting the notification too, bro, it kept popping up on my screen. That's some real you un as hell.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
They going to be like, think of this with the blue tooth talking.
A King
As long as you have the Atlanta, they be doing big headset.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I thought we was past that part
A King
in life and start bringing that in.
Mandy B
Bringing what back?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Have headphones, I see with the microphone.
A King
Yeah, the truckers usually have it, but
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
everybody or the gamer or the gamer headphones be buying groceries in Kroger with the headset.
A King
One of them would do that shit in New York. Oh, you getting real time roasting.
Mandy B
Well, y', all, this was a really. This was a fun episode. This was an ignorant. This was ignorant.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Jason.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
You ignorant. I ain't gonna hold you.
A King
I think this was probably level 8
Mandy B
and a half ignorant today.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
We pushed the limit. We pushed the limit a little bit.
Mandy B
We pushed the limit here. Well, y', all, if you wanna watch the full episode of this, make sure you head on over to YouTube. It's YouTube.com withmandyb and if you want to listen and watch this full episode completely ad free, join us over on Patreon. That's patreon.com withmandyb There is also a discord where, baby, our patrons get into all of the weeds of the conversations and share their.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, they gonna have something to say about this episode.
Mandy B
We are gonna have something to say about this episode. And I'm excited. Next week I'll come back and let y' all know about my time in St. Martin and St. Bart.
O
Oh, shit.
Mandy B
Which is where I'll be This week. So if y' all wanna see all of the bikini content, babe, head on over to the Instagram.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
What you already got?
A King
Let me tell you, Mandy, shit.
Mandy B
Yo, listen.
A King
You walk with lighting like your pictures.
Mandy B
I be like, yo, baby, it's outside. It's outside. Or I get lucky. I be with yomi. You know Yomi.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Yomi, yomi.
Mandy B
Shout out to the homie, yomi, we waiting on your lovely return. Until then, enjoy the fall off tour.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Cool World.
Mandy B
Hello. Cool world. Jason, are you going? I think it's next this week or. No, it's next week.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
Week this weekend.
Jason Rodriguez
I gotta check it out. I'm stuck in, like, summer jam zone.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, yeah, it's a lot.
A King
Let's go. Let's go.
Mandy B
Who's the headliner for summer jam?
A King
This three stages.
Jason Rodriguez
French Montana, Young, Miami 41, Ice Spice, Zetti, Will.
Mandy B
Oh, wow.
Jason Rodriguez
38 special.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Cash Cobain.
Jason Rodriguez
How we say it every morning. That's how we.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I was gonna say that.
Sprite Living Track List Announcer
Sound like.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
That sounds like the script voice.
A King
Cobain is gonna be there, right, people?
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Oh, Cash Co Ban.
Mandy B
Yeah, that's Fetty Wap.
A King
Fetty Wap is.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
Hey, what's up?
Jason Rodriguez
His welcome. His official home party.
Mandy B
Yeah, you know what? That actually sounds very New York. That is a very New York lineup.
Ja (Ja'Marion Byrd or Ja, co-host)
I like it.
A King
Yeah. Very intentional.
Mandy B
Very intentional.
Jason Rodriguez
That sounds dope.
A King
And I saw that y' all going to do, like a. You're doing a different style where it's three stages and then it's going to cap with a. With a party. A big old stadium party, arena party.
Rob
Really?
Jason Rodriguez
Somebody got some insight I don't know about.
A King
I read it. I read it. You know, I saw it on the thing. I saw it on the. On the flyer, the bill. So I'm. And I'm using theater to mind. Like, yo, that'd be pretty dope.
Mandy B
Look, look, Jason's like, I don't know. I just got to work. I just got to show up. He's like, I'm not putting on the event. Well, guys, thank y'. All. This is another episode of Selective Ignorance, where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
Jason Rodriguez
Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media studio production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez.
Rob
That's me.
Jason Rodriguez
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it's your girl, Mandy B.
Co-host (possibly Kami Crawford or Wheezy)
And you just checked out out my
Mandy B
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Podcast: Decisions, Decisions (Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts)
Date: July 28, 2026
Hosts: Mandii B, Ja’Marion Byrd (Ja), guest producers, and panelists
In this lively and candid episode of "Selective Ignorance," Mandii B and the OG crew (Ja’Marion Byrd, Jason Rodriguez, A King, and others) bring their signature humor and unfiltered takes to a slew of current social issues, scandals, and personal hot topics. The overarching theme is about "the right message, wrong messenger," exploring whether legitimacy of a message is tied to who says it. The hosts discuss politics and representation, viral relationship debates, social decency, moral standards abroad vs. home, and who has the authority to speak on sensitive or “taboo” topics.
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This episode exemplifies the spirit of Selective Ignorance: pushing the envelope, challenging social boundaries, and uplifting self-reliance and decency—while having a lot of fun along the way. Whether probing the legitimacy of a messenger, the meaning of “decency,” or the politics of family responsibility, Mandii B and the crew consistently urge listeners to question not just who’s talking, but how and why we respond the way we do.
For the full ad-free episode and in-depth follow-ups, check out Selective Ignorance on YouTube and Patreon. Engage with the ongoing debate in their Discord community.