Selective Ignorance: Ep.58 | Two Sheisty's & A Turkey Baster

Summary

Podcast Summary

Decisions, Decisions: Selective Ignorance Ep. 58 | Two Sheisty's & A Turkey Baster
Hosts: Mandii B & A King
Date: April 7, 2026
Production: The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Selective Ignorance" dives deep into the latest drama and headlines spanning race, music, sexuality, sports, and viral celebrity foolishness. Hosts Mandii B and A King blend humor, real talk, and a healthy dose of skepticism as they tackle controversial stories — from lawsuits against Black organizations, and industry drama with Jack Harlow and Jazzy, to viral personal stories (turkey basters included) and jaw-dropping legal incidents in hip-hop. Listeners are invited to join the troublemaking duo as they challenge assumptions, unpack social issues, and roast everyone—sometimes even themselves.

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Key Discussion Points & Segment Timestamps

1. Kickoff & Podcast Banter

[02:59 – 07:56]

• Reminder: Mandii B’s book “No Holes Barred” (co-authored with Wheezy).
• Guest Co-host: A King fills in for Jason and addresses listener complaints about low audio levels:
  • "Y’all niggas... why do you wanna listen to your shit all the way at 100 to be loud?" — A King [06:02]
• Atlanta’s 404 weekend gets a cultural roast, with jokes about area codes and Atlantans’ party spirit.

2. Event Recap: Jazzy’s Listening Party & “Strap-N-B”

[10:00 – 17:12]

• Mandii and A King recount attending Jazzy’s album release at the Red Bull office; event featured a playful Q&A.

• Introduction of “Strap-N-B”: a music genre by “masculine presenting lesbian coochie munchers” [12:38], with Jazzy as a current standout.

• Major Segment: Jack Harlow’s Alleged ‘Ghostwriting’ Request

  • Mandii shares how Jazzy revealed Jack Harlow asked her to write for him—secretly, without public credit:
    • "He texted me...I want to work with you. But also, I want to—don’t want nobody to know…pretty much want me to be a ghostwriter. And that hurt me." — Jazzy [14:08]
    • "As a white man stepping into our culture...not wanting someone to come in as a ghostwriter and not get the credit...To me now I question his authenticity..." — Mandii [16:06]

• Disgust at Harlow’s request to work with Black talent but not credit them.

• A King: “The only thing more egregious than gentrifying Black culture is asking a Black person for their help in your gentrification and don't want to say they got help.” [17:12]

3. “This Is America": Anti-Black Scholarships Lawsuits

[24:02 – 31:58]

• An anti-affirmative action group (headed by Edward Blum) sues the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation, claiming their scholarships are racially discriminatory.
• Mandii and A King analyze the group’s pattern: targeting Black and Latino orgs only.
• A King: “They reverse psychology this shit...all the efforts that you guys are doing ethnically, we want some of that, or we don't want y'all to get it.” [25:49]
• Discuss hypocrisy and persistence of anti-DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) backlash.

4. Side Tangents: Gender & Identity Humor

[31:30 – 34:44]

• Mandii shares stories about using men’s bathrooms at crowded events — gender norms, self-ID, and double standards.
• Comic brainstorming for an album cover themed around bathroom lines.

5. Brief Music Talk: Juvenile & “Rodeo”

[34:18 – 35:53]

• Lighthearted debate over Juvenile’s best songs; Mandii argues “Rodeo” is underrated.

6. NASA Astronaut Victor Glover: Black History or Human History?

[37:00 – 45:39]

• Discussion of Victor Glover’s viral comments wishing that "one day we don't have to talk about these firsts...that it becomes human history.” [37:35]
• Hosts unpack the tension:
  • Mandii: Appreciates the aspiration but notes race and gender conversations aren’t disappearing.
  • A King: “I'm black before everything. ... Like, I'm not a man who is Black, I'm a Black man.” [41:48]
  • “See the color. ... White people don't get to write the narrative about what has happened. ... Say my Blackness.” — A King [43:19]

7. Sports Talk & Jaden Ivey’s Anti-LGBTQ Rant

[52:11 – 65:03]

• March Madness heartbreak for Mandii (Duke fan), playful sports banter.
• The Jaden Ivey controversy: NBA player allegedly waived for anti-LGBTQ “righteousness” rant.
  • Critical analysis: If the league’s values don’t align with your beliefs, "don’t go work for the company." [55:02]
  • “If your religion or your God supports hating people, then, like, I'm cool on your religion and your God.” — A King [56:47]
• The hypocrisy in cherry-picking religious morals (calling out ignoring adultery but attacking LGBTQ folks).
• The mental health angle: Ivey’s struggles made public.
• On free speech: “Freedom of speech is not about you getting fired from your job, it's about the government not arresting you…” — A King [65:08]

8. Viral Moment: Deontay Wilder’s “Turkey Baster” Baby Story

[68:17 – 77:33]

• Wilder claims on Piers Morgan that his daughter was conceived after his ex “injected” sperm from his stomach after sex.
• Mandii and A King dissect the biological implausibility and roast the scenario.
  • “Once sperm hits the air, that’s it.” — A King [70:59]
• The “turkey baster” urban myth is explained and debated; scene turns raucous and graphic.
• Mandii: “Your pull out game, sir, was not as great as you thought it was.” [76:48]

9. “Celebrities Do the Darndest Things”: Pooh Shiesty & Gucci Mane Kidnapping

[81:40 – 93:34]

• News: Pooh Shiesty and associates allegedly kidnapped and robbed Gucci Mane (with Pooh’s father involved), all caught by Pooh’s ankle monitor.
• Lamenting the waste of opportunity and the generational cycle—“Robbing with their daddies!” [84:14]
• Discussion of the “snitching” discourse—both say, if you’re a crime victim, tell the truth.
• Analysis of 1017 label’s curse (artists ending up jailed or dead).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Jack Harlow & Artistic Credit:
  "You're asking me to hide...If she was just a talent on the come up...but you actually [asked] somebody who’s ascending, who has the resume. Grammy nominations. ... Fuck no!" — A King [17:12]

• On Lawsuits Against Black Scholarships:
  "They are targeting black people and brown people as if we're the only ones that get, quote, unquote, ...in because of our race. ...Gaslighting, the gaslighting of it all." — Mandy B [30:04]

• NASA Astronaut Segment:
  "I'm a black man. ...It's not like an accident; that's on purpose." — A King [41:48]
  "He’s done something incredible...But I land on the side of 'I'm black before everything.'" — A King [43:19]

• Jaden Ivey/LGBTQ Controversy:
  "If your religion or your God supports hating people, then, like, I'm cool on your religion and your God." — A King [56:47]
  "Keep your homophobia, transphobia, and racist thoughts in your head. You don't need to say it out loud." — Mandy B [64:42]

• Deontay Wilder’s Story:
  "Once sperm hit the air, that's it." — A King [70:59]
  "Your pull out game, sir, was not as great as you thought it was." — Mandy B [76:48]

• On Snitching & Victimhood in Crime:
  “It’s not a snitch if you didn’t commit the crime or act with the individuals. He, the civilian, right, who was victimized, was on the other side of the coin.” — A King [85:04]

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Episode Tone & Takeaways

• Humor and irreverence are central, but serious insights on racial politics, creative exploitation, gender/sexuality, and personal accountability are woven throughout.
• Hosts demonstrate a blend of empathy (mental health, LGBTQ affirmation), tough love (calling out hypocrisy), and fatigue with ongoing fights around representation and equity.
• The show ends with a reflection on the cyclical nature of poor choices in hip-hop and a call for smarter, less self-destructive pathways—plus, as always, a wink and some “puss ass ho” style jokes.

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For More

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• YouTube: [YouTube.com/withmandyb]
• IG: @Selective_Ignorant | Host: @FullcourtPumps

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This summary captures all significant content, giving a comprehensive map to the episode’s debates, stories, and the hosts’ signature comedic realness.

Transcript

[Mandy B]

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[Mandy B]

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[A King]

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[Mandy B]

Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However, before we get to this week's episode, I want to remind you guys to purchase my book, no Holes Barred, A dual Manifesto of Sexual Exploration and Power. So feel free to go to your local bookstores, preferably queer owned, black owned or woman owned, to support them, but also just click the button on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, or wherever you read your books. Again, that is no Holes Barred, a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power written by yours truly and my co host of the Decisions Decisions podcast, Wheezy. Make sure y' all get that. Now let's get to this week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect podcast network and iHeartRadio. Hey guys, it's another week of Selective Ignorance with me, your girl, Mandy B. And we are getting into all the things that have y' all upset, outraged, and acting like you actually care online this week.

[A King]

Not really.

[Mandy B]

That's right. We're kicking it off with the this Is America. We are getting into an anti affirmative action group that is accusing the Congressional Black Caucus foundation of discrimination. Baby, they said it's giving lawsuit. Then we are getting into NASA astronaut Victor Glover and his speech about being a black man. A black astronaut, and how he doesn't want to be acknowledged as a black man astronaut. Oh, yeah, please. He said it. And. And we have thoughts then. This is not a sports podcast. But you may get some tears from me with my Duke loss that we will talk about. As well as Jaden Ivey, who was waived by the Chicago Bulls after an anti LGBTQ elemental p rant.

[A King]

Come on now, dog.

[Mandy B]

Then Deontay Wilder decided to give us a story we did not ask for. He let us know how his baby mama was impregnated and how his daughter came about in a way that actually has me questioning the science. And celebrities say the darndest things. No, this week they do the darndest Things because Pooh Shiesty and his daddy was out here kidnapping and robbing Gucci Mane to get out of a contract. A king thinks we are actually going to agree on our thoughts on this matter. And I cannot wait to hear what he has to say. Y', all, we're back at it with all of our ignorance and my super producer. Yeah, that's just one.

[A King]

Aww.

[Mandy B]

Jason is not joining us today because we are actually recording this a different day. And my guy said, I need to sleep. Y' all bitches ain't waking me up on a Saturday early morning, so. So we got podcast OG Legend in the motherfucking building. A king. And y', all, for all y' all who are complaining about the audio being low, start sending that shit to this n. This n. Oh, yeah.

[A King]

I think they got bad hearing. And I think y' all niggas, why do you wanna listen to your shit all the way at 100 to be loud? Nigga, we are all. No, no, no.

[Mandy B]

Our demographic is aging, right?

[A King]

So I'm gonna tell y' all some inside ball.

[Mandy B]

Ooh.

[A King]

You know, Apple and Spotify, they have requirements. You know what I mean? We are working with a network that has certain requirements and how this shit should be displayed. Some of the other niggas you might listen to, they don't clearly care because you listen to their shit. They're not mixed. That shit just loud. Boom. So don't compare fucking 14 karat gold, the motherfucking that. What's the motor night? You know what I'm saying? So, but all fairness, we adjust.

[Mandy B]

We are adjusting.

[A King]

We cater to the fans. I just want to get that off because I see that. I'm like, yo, what the them want that the podcast to make their hellcat speakers rap, nigga, I'll be on the way to the gym. I gotta pull over to Starbucks, connect to the WI Fi and go literally in my car like, what the fuck? But that's what we do. We love the feedback. We. We cater to the people. And we are. We are the people. So salute to y'.

[Mandy B]

All. We are the people. And y', all, we got the king of headlines, Jason John Lee Mad Atlanta

[A King]

going on Pop blessing all the yak niggas. What up, what up, what up? 404 for you. Ho, ho, hoes. Yeah, buddy. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

So people don't know that this weekend, this past weekend in Atlanta. 404 weekend.

[A King]

404 weekend. 404 days. Yeah. It's turned into a weekend. I love it.

[Mandy B]

This is a thing.

[A King]

Yes. This Is a thing. This has been a thing for a very long time now. Shout out to everybody on the east side. Shout out to everybody in College park, you know what I'm saying? For all you niggas, all you etoufe mouth ass niggas, for all you boudin ball licking niggas, for all you andouille sausage hitting the dangly thing in the back of your throat, throat ass niggas. They don't let me see you Nowhere in these 404 streets celebrating 404 day you down here in this city, we don't care nothing about your morehouse degree. If you don't celebrate this city, you

[Mandy B]

are not gonna be talking about my brother.

[A King]

If you don't celebrate this city the proper way, act like, now I know what he's talking about. Act like you know something.

[Mandy B]

You are not gonna act like you enjoy this culture.

[A King]

You living down here. You paying taxes down here. You wanna raise your family down here, talk your shit, you wanna get your education down here.

[Mandy B]

It's crazy because that's all I'm saying. For y' all that do not know 404 is the area code.

[A King]

Or is it? Yeah, the original. The original area code. The original area code. Now we have 4,04,770-678. 6,78. Big five, five, seven, nine. Some weird came out a couple years ago. That shit is funny duddy. We don't want nobody. That's like New York 718-212. That's probably. That's the only thing. Six, four six, three four seven. Like 929.

[Mandy B]

Hold on. I'm 914.

[A King]

Well, that's the original. That's an original.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it better be original.

[A King]

That's an upstate it better be original upper New York thing.

[Mandy B]

And if y' all are watching this on video again, make sure you subscribe to the YouTube. But my guy came in here fresh today. This nigga said, I'm olive and black down.

[A King]

Say something backhanded in there. That today was doing a lot of heavy lifting, huh? At record time. So I went to sleep trying to set my alarm. Bad news already. Bad news. And I never got to do it by my internal clock. Said, hey, this is what we gotta do. And then I was like, all right, what am I going with? I was like, fuck. I was like, I'm keeping basic, you know?

[Mandy B]

Well. Oh, this is keeping it basic.

[A King]

I mean, you got the Timberland Crocs on. Can we zoom in on that? Look at the Gucci timberland crocs. She 5 foot 7 right now.

[Mandy B]

Goddamn hater. Anyways, I guess we'll start off with the fact that Ja was on some bullshit this weekend. He was supposed to link up with us.

[A King]

Yeah, I was old. I was washed as shit. I was like. I was looking at the clock, and I closed my laptop for the day, and I was like, he's fighting. I don't know, bro. I gotta take a shower. I gotta get dressed. I gotta drive through the traffic. I was like, oh, no. Traffic was making. It was ridiculous.

[Mandy B]

Well, me yomi a king. We was outside with.

[A King]

It looked like it was a good time.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. We got to check out Jozzy. She had a listening and live performance for a soundtrack to Get Her Back, which is her album that just released. If you haven't gotten it, please get it now.

[A King]

She's dope.

[Mandy B]

She's dope. Just good.

[A King]

Kind spirits.

[Mandy B]

Just good. Just good. I love jazzy. I love jazzy. And you had a good time. I mean, a king did come a

[A King]

little late, but at events, there's no on time. That's a fact. Just show up. That's a fact.

[Mandy B]

Do you really believe that?

[A King]

Yes. Cause these event producers, like, none of this shit starts on time. None of this starts. I've never been to an event that started on time. And the ancestors protect me. They know that I'm gonna go in the room at the moment that I'm supposed to be there. So I connect with whoever I need to connect to, and that's it.

[Mandy B]

This has to be like an Atlanta. In New York, things start on time. There's actually lines outside before the events start in New York.

[A King]

Really?

[Mandy B]

Especially for, like, lit. For lit events.

[A King]

Well, if it's like, you gotta get there early, I would say. Yeah. Well, every event in New York is in a room like the size of this room right now. So there's probably 400 people into this little ass room so that everybody could drink free Hennessy. To your point, like, for instance, like, listening sessions and stuff like that. They're usually, like, in studios. And the studios have a time thing. Nobody want to go overtime. Cause that's another cost. So. But nah, I mean, that one. It looks like it started on time

[Mandy B]

for the most part. For the most part.

[A King]

It was sponsored through Red Bull.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, it was at the Red Bull office. So we go to the Red Bull event, and Jazzy is there. She performs. It's great. But she's being interviewed by Polo the Don Polo.

[A King]

Legendary, legendary Polo Zone 4.

[Mandy B]

Y' all never see that man of mic again.

[A King]

Damn.

[Mandy B]

He Was interviewing himself. I was there to hear Jazzy, and he was letting everyone know how great he is.

[A King]

Damn.

[Mandy B]

Nonetheless, there was a Q and A portion.

[A King]

Yeah, it's crazy. Word on the street. It turned into a full court production.

[Mandy B]

Listen, word on the street is if you open Q and A and you got a podcaster in the room like myself, I'm gonna ask a question.

[A King]

True. Indeed.

[Mandy B]

So first off, the first question that was asked was really interesting. I didn't know there was a thing called Strap and be, strapping and apparently, ah, Strappin B. So Jazzy got asked about being a part of Strap and be, and strap and be, apparently, is now this new R and B sound coming from masculine presenting lesbian coochie munchers.

[A King]

Right.

[Mandy B]

You know, and I was unfamiliar, so I guess it was like, Jazzy K1. And the original was, of course, Amanda Perez.

[A King]

Sure. Okay.

[Mandy B]

But it's a thing now.

[A King]

I see that. I like that niche, though. I'm not mad at that niche.

[Mandy B]

Well, I got the microphone, and of course Yomi was there. So Yomi captured it, and we're gonna play what my question was.

[A King]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

And Jozzy actually responded. And now it makes me have different thoughts about a certain white man.

[A King]

Uh.

[Mandy B]

Oh.

[A King]

Oh, yes. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Mandy B]

If you could play the clip.

[A King]

Can we not backslide? Let's see this. Here we go.

[Mandy B]

Here we go. Okay, so question only because we're out of the era of R and B is dead. Right. However, we also, right after that, went through era where black artists specifically felt like they were being categorized as art R B specifically because they were just black artists even when they were alternative. Now we got a white man jumping into R B. Although we've had other white men in R B. So I'm curious when you talk about, like, R B is alive, A, your thoughts on Jack Harlow's new album. But also the artists that are currently trying to not align with R B because they view themselves as an alternative.

[A King]

Me too. I thought that was Jazzy, but listen

[Mandy B]

to J's questions, Man, I do this for a living.

[A King]

This. All right, all right. So funny story about. So damn. Shout out to Jack Harlow.

[Mandy B]

Shout out. But I will say I had a

[A King]

moment with Jack where he texted me. I did an amazing session with him, like with the album the kid.

[Mandy B]

Come on, the kids miss you. And we did some great work together.

[A King]

And then he texted me a long voice note like, yo, I love working with you. You, but I want to work with you. But also, I don't want. No, I want to don't want nobody to know.

[Mandy B]

Like, it's been working. Like, pretty much want me to be a ghostwriter.

[A King]

And that hurt me.

[Mandy B]

I was like, my.

[A King]

I was like, yo, you know, I'm a hit maker in my head.

[Mandy B]

I'm like, what the period.

[A King]

That's all I was thinking. But I was like, bro, I'm not a ghostwriter. I'm not writing your lyrics. Like, but if the song comes out, I'm letting know I wrote it. So we never worked.

[Mandy B]

We never worked after that. I respect him for hitting me with what he wanted.

[A King]

And.

[Mandy B]

And then.

[A King]

And in return, I hit him with

[Mandy B]

what I wasn't going to do.

[A King]

You know what I'm saying?

[Mandy B]

Because I ain't about the money, cuz.

[A King]

Every song with your name is a business card.

[Mandy B]

Literally, it's going to give me other word. You thought this was so.

[A King]

And that's why.

[Mandy B]

Yes.

[A King]

When she. When Mandy. If you notice Mandy asked a question, she wasn't going to fold, but she was very. She's like, fuck. Cause she probably didn't think that that was gonna be a question. Right? Sure. So you saw her like.

[Mandy B]

But also, she was like.

[A King]

And she like, fuck it. I'm gonna unpack the real shit.

[Mandy B]

To know that he did reach out to a black artist and was willing to have her talent on this R and B project. I assume that way because that was the thing she goes to say. Like, when that project dropped, it was like, oh, this is why.

[A King]

This is why. Right?

[Mandy B]

Of course this is why. I mean, I'm not gonna hold you as a. I don't fuck with you. As a white man stepping into our culture, wanting to. Not wanting someone to come in as a ghostwriter and not get the credit for being a part of something that you say you respect, that you love, that you are diving more into because you want to be blacker. To know that you're willing to not give credit, though, and acknowledge black artists that you want to work with to do blacker shit. It's just. To me now, I question his authenticity around actually how he respects the art and the people who are a part of it. You know what I mean? By the way, if y' all don't know Jazzy. Jazzy is the writer on Old Town Road. She is the writer for Virgo's Groove on the Renaissance album with Beyonce. She has written.

[A King]

She was the first.

[Mandy B]

She did a lot of the Love projects.

[A King]

She was the first artist that Diddy signed when he was doing the Love

[Mandy B]

project, and so has been doing this. It's crazy. Too, because, like, even getting her backstory, she's been, like, esteemed by Timberland, by Missy Elliott, by just a lot of our greats. And so for me, knowing that he sat on that motherfucking podcast with them crackers and was like, I just love blackness. And blackness, I got blacker and my music is black. But you're willing to work with people and not give them the credit they deserve. Yucky Jack Harlow. Do better.

[A King]

The only thing more egregious than gentrifying black culture is asking a black person for their help in your gentrification and don't want to say that they got help. You're asking me to hide and somebody. I will say this. Are you fucking crazy? I will say this. If she was just a talent on the come up, she had none of this resume. I could see that. We'll give you the credit on the back. You'll get the credit on the back end. We'll give you the money. And I get that you're not even gonna ask me to hide because I'm no bunch of hide. No one knows my name. But you actually somebody who's ascending. Yeah, right. Who has the notoriety, who has the cosigns, who has the resume. Grammy nominations. We talking about the resume, right? Fuck no.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[A King]

And they say, oh, fuck it, we not gonna work. We. Well, then fuck you. Yeah, that's not how this. And you know what's crazy? It wouldn't have hurt him, so.

[Mandy B]

It would not have hurt him with

[A King]

Jozzy, first of all, if it would have been like he recognized her talent and he wanted to amplify it, if anything. But like, imagine Justin Timberlake going to Timberland and being like, yo, bro, I wanna. I'm about to go solo, I'm about to leave this nigga, but I wanna do some shit with you. But I don't want nobody to know that you like I wanted to. So we supposed to believe that you, Jack Harlow, came up with this shit on your own? Yes. That you, that you created this. And if it was a masterpiece, all the credit, all the accolades, all the interviews, and he would have been like, yeah, I, I, I, I, I.

[Mandy B]

Now, like I said, Monica isn't a terrible sounding project, but it does make me now wonder how many black creatives were part of.

[A King]

Who did he get over on who

[Mandy B]

was a part of that project? That literally is not acknowledged on it.

[A King]

Hit us [e-mail] and if you did agree to that, you're cool.

[Mandy B]

Oh, well,

[A King]

if you. If the came at Any level. No, no, no. If you are a major established figure and be like, yo, bro, I want to do this, but you can't say nothing to nobody. And you'd be like, all right, that's cool. Like, you're crazy. You are a rodent. You are a furry face rodent.

[Mandy B]

You think that they're coons.

[A King]

That's some coon shit.

[Mandy B]

If they agree to be.

[A King]

If you agree. If. Like, what are you agreeing to?

[Mandy B]

But it's because he's white.

[A King]

Yeah. Like, why are you letting. Why would you let this white man dictate that you can't speak on the art that you helped create?

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[A King]

For him. And he's stepping into a black space, doing this, like, authentically black music. That's fucking crazy. Unless he was to throw an astronomical bag at the songwriter. I mean, what's $2 million he not doing? No credit. That's what I'm saying. He's not gonna do that. What did Bud tell Shannon Crowder? That's your character.

[Mandy B]

Well, let's get into this, America, and hold on.

[A King]

And that's a dope question from her. To even get that, we wouldn't have known. I love that she said it. Shout out to yo, listen. Shout out to Mandy. Yeah, you set that up real good. You pulled that real good.

[Mandy B]

What is your thoughts? You know what I mean? Thank you for the story, Jazzy. Again, y'. All. Make sure y' all support her album. Get that, download it, stream it, purchase it. You might not be able to drop everything and book a ticket to Italy, but you can go to the theater this Friday for you, me, and Tuscany. Wolpacher, the guy who produced Girls Trip, brings us a brand new rom com with all the ingredients of your favorite classics. Heart, huge laughs, and sizzling chemistry. All set in the enchanting vineyards of Tuscany. This film is the movie escape we've been waiting for. Starring Halle Bailey and Reggae Jean Page. You, me and Tuscany is the perfect film for date night or a night out with your girls. Get your rom com on with Universal Pictures. You meet in Tuscany. Directed by Cat Cuero. Only in theaters this Friday. Rated PG 13. May be inappropriate for children under 13.

[A King]

1010. Shots fired. City hall building. A silver.40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From Iheart podcasts and Best Case Studio. This is Rorschach. Murder at City Hall. How could this have happened in city Hall? Somebody tell me that. Jeffrey. Who did it?

[Mandy B]

July 2003.

[A King]

Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons. And in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead. Now everybody in the chambers ducks.

[Mandy B]

A shocking public murder. I scream, get down. Get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down. A charismatic politician, you know, he just

[A King]

bent the rules all the time, man. I still have a weapon and I could shoot you. And an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of black down. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sexual.

[Mandy B]

Listen to Rorschach murder at City hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or

[A King]

wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Khan, the singer songwriter behind the multi platinum global hit stick season and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a

[Mandy B]

defining moment in his career.

[A King]

It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick, man. You have no clue. Talking about the mental illness stuff, it used to be this thing that I was ashamed of.

[Mandy B]

I'm just now trying to unwind this idea that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional

[A King]

way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a

[Mandy B]

good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

[A King]

Someone says that I suck, I'm like, I suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me right now. I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

[Mandy B]

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[A King]

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[Mandy B]

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[A King]

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[A King]

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[Mandy B]

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[A King]

Washington, let's credit union. Speaking of folks hating on black people.

[Mandy B]

Oh, Jesus.

[A King]

Speaking of people that hate on black

[Mandy B]

people, here we go. Talk to me. Cause update me. I'm unfamiliar with this.

[A King]

So this week some news broke that a group called the American alliance for Equal Rights filed a lawsuit against the Congressional Black Caucus, suing them for basically giving out black scholarships. Congressional Black Caucus has given out $11 million worth of scholarships to, like, over 300 people.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[A King]

And this American alliance for Equal Rights group run by a Jewish brother named Edward Bloom.

[Mandy B]

Here we go.

[A King]

Hi, my name is. My name is. Oh, I wasn't doing that. Edward Bloom.

[Mandy B]

Damn. So he's suing them.

[A King]

Yes. So he's suing this group saying basically that you shouldn't be allowed to give out scholarships to college based on race. We're in the anti DEI age. We're in the anti black people age. We're in the anti immigrant age. They don't stop, bro. And it never stop. And there's no. There's. There's no level to which they won't figure out a way to take away something from black people. Right. Just try to see if they can. To see it, to see it, to see if they can get away with this. And so I went to this group's page just to see, like, what are they on? And they have a whole section called Our Cases that lists all the people they've sued. And every single group on this page is either black or Latino.

[Mandy B]

Get the fuck out of here.

[A King]

AER files federal lawsuit alleging a Congressional Black Caucus Spouses Education Scholarship Violates Civil Rights Act. Where's this other one? American alliance for Equal Rights Sues Hispanic Scholarship Fund for Excluding non Hispanic Students. But that's the whole point of it.

[Mandy B]

It's literally the point of it.

[A King]

People are trying to help their people because they've been shunned for so many years. They like, all right, we have to do our own thing to center around our own people. So now, yo, the playbook that they use. Oh, we know the playbook. Oh, of course you know the playbook. They reverse psychology this shit. They saying, hey, not only that, all the efforts that you guys are doing ethnically, we want some of that, or we don't want y' all to get it.

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I mean, it's clearly anti dei. But remember too, when it was. What was it? There was recently something around the Ivy League schools that were also shown to not be allowing certain race of students to even come in.

[A King]

Yeah, student organizations, any type of. Any type of quota system that they might have had, like, all of that shit is gone.

[Mandy B]

This is why I had an issue with that goddamn super bowl commercial.

[A King]

Which one?

[Mandy B]

With the blue post it note. Oh, like, I just don't understand, like. And you know, they identify as, like, the blacks of the whites or the niggas of the whites, the Jewish community. So to know that this is a A Jewish group that is literally going.

[A King]

I thought the Irish considered themselves that. Okay, we don't have to do that.

[Mandy B]

Okay, wait. This is selective ignorance.

[A King]

No, I don't want. No problem. No, but they had their own Irish. Well, I mean, Irish had their own history of, like, oppression. Oppression.

[Mandy B]

Wait, wait. White Irish people were being slaves to other white people? They. They weren't slaves, were they? Or was it black Irish people?

[A King]

No, I think it was white Irish people.

[Mandy B]

White Irish people were slaves?

[A King]

Yes, they were oppressed.

[Mandy B]

Well, I know we talked about that for, like, there was the one slave, the St. Patrick guy, because we talked about it on St. Patrick's Day. But, like, Irish men were slaves.

[A King]

So I don't think it was necessarily slavery. I think it was just general oppression, persecution. So, like, it was mainly under the British. That's what it was. It was under British rule. It wasn't. They weren't over here. But they had religious persecution. You know, British people like to steal

[Mandy B]

everything they saw the religious persecution with, even the Holocaust.

[A King]

And of course, of course.

[Mandy B]

I mean, this. Have they won any of these lawsuits?

[A King]

Boom.

[Mandy B]

I'm curious. Did you.

[A King]

Yeah, that's a question. I don't know if they. One of these lawsuits. Actually, probably not. But where's the foundation? Where's it from? Like, where's the location?

[Mandy B]

The.

[A King]

Oh, where. You mean, where's the. Where is the. Where's the home base, the headquarters? Probably. Let me see. Probably in New York. This guy is from Michigan, so he might still live in Michigan, but he's

[Mandy B]

filing across Texas and Florida. It's federal courts. I don't know.

[A King]

Oh, so he's playing. He knows. He knows. He knows the jurisdiction where this shit might. May be a win for them. Probably. That's why he's going to. Yeah, you're going to. He's going to file these lawsuits in states, in conservative places. Know that you're going to get the best outcome for your case. And what it is, is, too, even if they were to pass it or even if they were to rule in their favor, then the Congressional Black Caucus would counter with an appeal, right? Oh, yeah. And then the mission would be to just drain their money. Yeah, let's keep going back to the court. Drain the Congress Black Caucus's money. Yeah, Run this thing up as long as we can. Delay, delay, delay.

[Mandy B]

This is interesting. Last year the Department of Education alleged that a PhD project, which was a nonprofit that helps black Latino, Native American students earn doctoral degrees in business, limits eligibility based on race, accusing the project's university partners of Engaging in race exclusionary practices. So it does look like that there's

[A King]

last year when after November.

[Mandy B]

Because look, there's other. Similarly, in 2023, AAER filed lawsuits in Texas and Florida federal courts for other universities accusing them of unlawful racial discrimination against white candidates. So this is a common thing, not just with this group that you're bringing up. It's looking like multiple places have filed these lawsuits.

[A King]

Well, the funny thing is, is that again, they're always. They're targeting black people and brown people as if we're the only ones that get, quote, unquote, we're the only ones that get in because of our race. What about all the white people that got in because they're white people

[Mandy B]

to be oppressed? It literally says unlawful racial discrimination against white candidates.

[A King]

Gaslighting. The gaslighting of it all.

[Mandy B]

This is insane. But also they want us to be racist so bad. Bad because we're just trying to help our community be uplifted and have opportunities that white people have had forever.

[A King]

Shouldn't be a problem. But this is a reaction to the panic. They really believe in this great replacement theory that white people are being replaced by other groups who will eventually have control over this country. The funny part about that is that let's say there is a great replacement theory and that we're all taking. And we're taking over this whole brown people and black people are taking over the whole country. There's enough coons and enough sellouts. That's the issue that even if we do come in and there's more of us, some of these niggas are so fucking enamored by whiteness that they'll give up all of that shit just to fuck with y'. All. All y' all have to do is just play it regular. But y' all are so hip to being raised that you gonna shoot yourself in the foot by not even being able to acquire some of these coons because you wanna do shit like this.

[Mandy B]

This is insane. This is insane. I will say, because it's a selective ignorance. When I was in college, there was like a Hispanic thing. There was a Hispanic scholarship, but, you know, like Hispanic, non Hispanic, you can't prove.

[A King]

Right.

[Mandy B]

I applied for it, and if I had to say, I said, mom, if they hit you, just say, we have family in Puerto Rico.

[A King]

You got it?

[Mandy B]

I didn't get it, but I did apply for it because there was no proof. I'mma applied for everything.

[A King]

She was getting he hopped. She was trying to get he up.

[Mandy B]

I'm going to apply for everything.

[A King]

I did, actually, it's just about how you identify yourself. You got the best of both worlds. Cause you could kind of tiptoe on both sides of it.

[Mandy B]

You should see. Y' all already know. We was at the One Music Fest, and I looked at them bathroom lines, and I said, I'm a man today. And I went straight to the man bathroom.

[A King]

I identify as a dick.

[Mandy B]

You could identify however you wanna identify. All right. Shit.

[A King]

And I dare you to say something in this line I cut up in this motherfucker.

[Mandy B]

I dare you to say something. I'm a man. I did that shit in London, too. And they were like, these fucking Americans.

[A King]

Well, that's the thing. Y' all can do that shit. Nigga walking into the women's bathroom is gonna be. Is gonna cause a problem somewhere. It's gonna cause a problem. I did that one time. Cause a problem.

[Mandy B]

Double standards.

[A King]

Sometimes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes it just is what it is. You know, you going through the airport. Not Atlanta airport. They got the big blue. They let you know. Yeah, but it's something. You just gotta go. And you just see the first opening. It's one opening and another. You just. I just did like that. I said, oh, shit. I just walked away. This man uncomfortable. But women go in the men's bathroom. No man is gonna be like, hey,

[Mandy B]

bro, I don't wanna see y' all dicks.

[A King]

Don't even worry about it.

[Mandy B]

I just wanna piss. But, yeah, well, I know, I know.

[A King]

Listen, yo, Mandy in the men's bathroom. Pure comedy. No, you know, for nothing, though, like, if you ever do an album cover, like, that should be an album cover. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. That'll land. Yeah. You should definitely go in, like, be in the men's bathroom. Like, a bunch of dudes like this. And Mandy just. No, it's Mandy's.

[Mandy B]

With a whole bunch of cheeks. I want the cheeks gotta be out for the baby.

[A King]

The a.

[Mandy B]

It's a. I want the cheeks out.

[A King]

It's a landscape shot of Mandy sitting down in the stall. Sitting down on. On the toilet. And men in the uro with their backs turned.

[Mandy B]

I like that.

[A King]

Like, three men on the side and then you on one side and you sitting on. On the toilet.

[Mandy B]

Like, I like that. I like that a lot.

[A King]

Puss. Puss. Oh, that's the album. Puss Ass Ho. By.

[Mandy B]

Man, y' all are making me so.

[A King]

Oh, we gonna get you signed. The way y' all do a little ep. And we gonna give our credit, too. Credit. We not going. Yeah, we producing this Whole thing.

[Mandy B]

Puss would definitely be my. My first single.

[A King]

Yeah, I like this. Pah.

[Mandy B]

Why are you trying to make.

[A King]

Acronym acronym. Pie. Pop that pie. Pop that pie.

[Mandy B]

Which, by the way. Which, by the way, ended up missing it. But went to see Juvenile last night at the tabernacle.

[A King]

Pop that pie.

[Mandy B]

His. His album. I know BBB with Meg is going

[A King]

on right now, bruh.

[Mandy B]

He got a song on his album.

[A King]

Say it called Pay me, Pay me back. You don't know me. Pop it up. Pop that. For a nigga getting rich. Hey, hey. You don't know me. Oh, that shout out yet Literally fucking go.

[Mandy B]

Listen.

[A King]

Oh, please play.

[Mandy B]

That's the song title on his new album. And it's like, oh, my God.

[A King]

Step a step beat nothing. Like, you put that right into your Juvenile mix with Rodeo. It just goes right along, right along. We got a good hour. Juvie hits just going.

[Mandy B]

That song aged so goddamn well.

[A King]

Yeah. Rodeo. Oh, classic. Big, big classic.

[Mandy B]

I actually. I think that song might be better than slow motion. Like, I'm not gonna listen. I heard it live last night.

[A King]

It could be.

[Mandy B]

And when I say the way it just. And I was like, this is giving different than slow mo. I said Rodeo actually might be the sleep. Like, because it wasn't even that big of a single when it dropped. Like, it was. It was big.

[A King]

It was big enough, but it wasn't.

[Mandy B]

Like, to me, that's not one of the first records you go to. When you think of.

[A King]

We think of Juvenile. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

You think aha. And you think. Or you think high. You think clearly back that ass up.

[A King]

400 degrees.

[Mandy B]

400 degrees. Like, but Rodeo.

[A King]

Rodeos. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

The way that argue with your mama.

[A King]

Yeah, that Pay me back is I need to hear that outside. Like, skip day parties. Like. Like the functions. The day parties.

[Mandy B]

And I ain't even gonna hold you.

[A King]

I need that.

[Mandy B]

I need a remix with sexy red on that jaw.

[A King]

You with, bro, I'm not even mad at over here. Okay, let's do that.

[Mandy B]

I want.

[A King]

I've been wanting to hear juvie and Glorilla records since forever. That's what I've been wanting that since forever. And the crazy part about it is I put that on one of Juveniles post on Instagram and all the people who commented back to me were all, hey, gorilla, we don't need this tripping.

[Mandy B]

But Glorilla isn't really like, pussy rap.

[A King]

No.

[Mandy B]

Right. It's not. Yeah.

[A King]

Take the red. Yeah. You know what I mean?

[Mandy B]

Like, she gonna. I'm gonna put this. Look at us. We did not mean to get into music.

[A King]

Anyways, didn't they decline her to use and Beat it, the sample for Beat It Sexy Red? Yeah. Oh, yeah, it was terrible. Oh, Jackson's not going for it. We got a movie coming out. Like, we're not the estates that get this. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Get this bitch on. All right, do we want to get into this? That was dropped in the chat. The NASA astronaut. Let's get into it. Let's start with the clip. Because, by the way, this thread specifically, there was some arguing.

[A King]

Oh, yeah, there's definitely some arguing about this topic.

[Mandy B]

But there was some thoughts. So, yomi, if you could pull up this video and play it for us, please.

[A King]

This is NASA astronaut Victor Glover.

[Mandy B]

Yes,

[A King]

it is a big question. And I wanna highlight, I guess maybe one facet of this is the tension. I call it. I live in this, you know, this dichotomy between happiness. That a young woman can look at Christina and just physicalize her passion or her interest or even if it's not something she wants to do, she can just be like, girl power. And that's awesome. And that young brown boys and girls

[Mandy B]

can look at me and go, hey,

[A King]

he looks like me. And he's doing what? And that's great. I love that. But I also hope we are pushing the other direction, that one day we don't have to talk about these first.

[Mandy B]

That one day this is just.

[A King]

And listen to this. That this is the human history. It's about human history. It's the story of humanity. Not black history, not women's history. But that it becomes human history.

[Mandy B]

By the way, he said, now, listen to me. When he even went to explaining this, he done took off. Took off the Jersey.

[A King]

New layers. New layers.

[Mandy B]

So it was interesting because he even said, listen to me. Because I think he knew he was gonna get backlash for saying this. And I did do some digging. He is. Cause at first I was like, he got a white wife,

[A King]

all the things.

[Mandy B]

But it's not.

[A King]

Nah, nah.

[Mandy B]

And I'm not. I didn't. I wasn't emotionally moved by him saying this. It didn't upset me. I'm not mad with, you know, human history. This is what we're doing. Because. Yes. How are we in 2026 and we're still acknowledging the first women doing something or the first black person doing something? It becomes like. It's almost like, damn. It almost sits us in reminding us how much we weren't able to do things. And so him saying, like, hopefully we get to a part where we're Just making human history. I like that. But also to constantly be reminded that we're not that far removed from us not having these opportunities.

[A King]

Not at all.

[Mandy B]

What were Yalls thoughts when y' all saw the discourse in it?

[A King]

I saw the discourse. I heard him. I'm all about hearing the intent.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[A King]

I think you can determine, you know, you could observe that, how he projects himself. I get what people are saying.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[A King]

I get what he's saying. I feel he's not wrong. We fight so much for inclusion. Well, this is. Forget the labels. We are right. You go back to the three fifths clause about how we're three fifths human. Well, how did we change that narrative? I don't know, motherfucker. We do great shit. We've been doing great shit. We created all this shit that happens in the world because we're fucking humans and we've been populating this fucking planet since the beginning of time. But I also, on the flip side, I think two things could be true. We can celebrate that he's first, but that we shouldn't stay there. And I think people put these. These pressures on us when these things happen. And I think maybe him, maybe others feel fatigue. I'm not talking about the cool niggas, right? But we got so much to work, yo. Malcolm X died fighting for niggas. Martin Luther King fighting for niggas. Mega Evers, Fred Hampton, all these niggas died viciously trying to uplift us. Now we in the age where us don't give a fuck because we wouldn't have these conversations about coons. So who are we fighting for? Right? A smaller faction of our community. Right? So maybe we gotta do it differently than saying I'm the first black. Cause we already. We just. In the other. The other segment we talked about, the Congressional Black Caucus is being sued because they're giving scholarships to black and brown. So it's like, damn, we can't. So let's just maybe we gotta do it a little differently. I mean, yes, so the narrative will change.

[Mandy B]

Yes. And no. The reality is the conversations around race, they're not gonna go anywhere. And so for me, I think that this just. It could have gone without saying. I get the sentiments, but like, we're in an era, especially right now. Again, the topic we started off with, race is not a topic that's ever going to go anywhere. And unfortunately, even him acknowledging the woman next to him, that's also something, unfortunately, that's not going to go anywhere. While we have our rights being taken away on what we could do with our bodies. Literally. The Supreme Court with the reversal of Roe v. Wade. As long as we have these lines or the manosphere red pill stuff, Gender talk stuff. Or gender inequalities. Race inequalities. But we fighting for has to constantly be acknowledged.

[A King]

Yeah. So here's where I'm at with it. First off, respect to this brother, right? Like, he's done something incredible with his life and his talent, his pursuit of this thing. You're a NASA astronaut, you're a black man. Right? And so I respect him for that facts. And I'm actually glad that he talked about the tension between those two things. Cause I do think that's a real thing of people who are fatigued, who want to feel like humanity has moved forward and that we don't have to keep having these conversations. But I land on the side of I'm black before everything. That's just how I look at myself. True, true. Like, I'm a black man. I'm not a man black. Like, I'm not a man black. I'm not a man black. You know what I mean? Like, I'm not a man who is black. I'm a black man. You know, it's not like an accident that gets on purpose. It's supposed to be this way. Right. So I guess my thing about it is that I don't fully understand the tension. Or maybe I don't resonate with the tension because I don't feel the need for that kind of assimilation. Like, what he's done is done. Like, white people don't get to write the narrative about what has happened. They don't hold the pen to history. What he did, he's already done. You are the first black man who's done that. And if it was me, I would want to be acknowledged as the first black man to do XYZ things.

[Mandy B]

Cause you're not man black.

[A King]

Because I'm not man black. Like, say my blackness. Like, that's. To me. It's like. To me, that just gives, like, cover and credence for the. Like, I don't see colored people.

[Mandy B]

I don't see color. Yeah.

[A King]

I don't like that shit. That's just. Maybe I'm a radical, but, like, I don't like that shit. No. See, the color. Like, see the fact that I'm a black man and I'm doing this thing, and I don't. We don't have to. We don't have to wait for them to acknowledge anything that we're doing for it to be what it is. What it is the truth. Like, the truth is just the truth. It doesn't need. What's the truth? Doesn't need validation. Validation just needs witnesses or whatever, however they're saying. But it's like, nigga, this shit happened. And so I don't have any desire for that level of assimilation now. This tension is a broader thing that I think is worth talking about, because it's not just in this situation where this type of thing happens. We talk about this with the Oscars and the Grammys about not needing validation. And, you know, and Van Lathan brings this point up. Shout out to Van Lathan and Higher Learning. Like, he brings this point up a lot, which I think is a fair point. Like, in Hollywood, if you win an Oscar. Michael B. Jordan just won an Oscar for Best Actor in Hollywood. That unlocks a lot of shit for him.

[Mandy B]

Oh, yeah. They just talked about his pay going up.

[A King]

Yeah. Like, it takes you to another level when your agent can walk in there and put both of y' all dicks on the table or both of y' all titties on the table.

[Mandy B]

Stop. In Hollywood, they literally put dicks on table.

[A King]

They do put dicks on the table. That's probably not a good example in Hollywood. But the point is. But the point is, when you have that behind your name, you can go in there and demand things, and they kind of have to acquiesce to that. To that power. So I understand it from a business standpoint. That isn't a validation of Michael B. Jordan's talent. That is just an affinity ring that I can put on Infinity Stone. I could put on my gauntlet and be like, now you have to give me this X, Y, Z. You have to treat me a certain kind of way. But that Oscar, those Grammys that Kendrick Lamar won and other artists have won, that doesn't validate them. They are who they are, and this is just what it is. Yeah. We don't need. And if we talk about we want to support our own, we want to uplift ourselves, then, like, being acknowledged as a human. Of course we're all human. We know that. But it kind of sounds. It's a little. Little Russell Lee.

[Mandy B]

Like, not little Russell.

[A King]

We're all. Heaven's sake. Like, we're all human beings. Like, yeah, no shit. We're all human beings. I get that. But, like, what else? Right?

[Mandy B]

I'm not mad at it.

[A King]

I mean, what if you found out he was MAGA after celebrating him? It would make all the sense in the world. I'd be like, yeah, of course he said no. I'm saying that's why you gotta. We have to also leave room for the disappointment. Not with him, but anytime we. Oh, yeah. Cause we start championing that shit. And they're like, oh, yeah. Then we find out two months later like, oh, this nigga did some bullshit. We not gonna celebrate it.

[Mandy B]

It's crazy. I do wanna shout out to Jamel Hill and Carrie Champion. They actually discussed that in terms of chili, right?

[A King]

They're like, damn.

[Mandy B]

92% of black women voted for Kamala Harris to know that she's a part of that 8% that supported this nigga Trump. Like, you went against your whole demographic and who supported you. Your entire career, it has been black women. And you don't even like. You know what I mean? And then, I don't know. Did y' all see the tweets? So they went back into her comment section because, you know, she's dating Matthew Lawrence.

[A King]

Correct.

[Mandy B]

White boy.

[A King]

Yes.

[Mandy B]

So they're.

[A King]

He's like, maga adjacent, right?

[Mandy B]

His brothers are.

[A King]

His brothers are okay. Brothers are deep, I promise. Yes.

[Mandy B]

But there's people under her comments, like, or under Matthew's comments, talking about, ooh, you got you a chocolate girl. She's down there, she's correcting them, and it's like caramel. Like, not even wanting to be viewed as, like, a chocolate.

[A King]

That's a crazy asterisk. Like, no, no, no. Well, actually, I'm cur. Actually a lot of shit that should be.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. So there's been a few things where they're like, ugh. Girl, what you doing? What you doing? What you doing?

[A King]

Left Eye would never listen. Left Eye would absolutely never rest in peace.

[Mandy B]

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[A King]

1010. Shots fired. City hall building. A silver.40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From Iheart podcasts and Best Case Studios, this is Rorschach Murder at City Hall. How could this have happened at City Hall? Somebody tell me that. Jeffrey. Who did it?

[Mandy B]

July 2003.

[A King]

Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons, and in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead. Help. Everybody in the chambers.

[Mandy B]

Abduct a shocking public murder. I scream, get down. Get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down.

[A King]

A charismatic politician.

[Mandy B]

You know, he just bent the rules

[A King]

all the time, man. I still have a weapon and I could shoot you. And an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of lockdown. That may or may not have been political. It may have been about sex.

[Mandy B]

Listen to Rorschach.

[A King]

Murder at City hall on the iHeartRadio

[Mandy B]

app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[A King]

Foreign

[Mandy B]

hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. My latest episode is with Noah Khan,

[A King]

the singer songwriter behind the multi platinum global hit Stick season and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a

[Mandy B]

defining moment in his career.

[A King]

It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick, man. You have no clue. Talking about the mental illness stuff. It used to be this thing that I was ashamed of.

[Mandy B]

I'm just now trying to unwind this idea that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional

[A King]

way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a

[Mandy B]

good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

[A King]

Someone says that I suck, I'm like, I suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me right now. I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

[Mandy B]

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Lori Siegel, and on Mostly Human. I go beyond the headlines with the people building our future. This week, an interview with one of the most influential figures in Silicon Valley,

[A King]

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

[Mandy B]

I think society is gonna decide that creators of AI products bear a tremendous amount of responsibility to products we put out in the world.

[A King]

From power to parenthood, kids, teenagers. I think they will need a lot

[Mandy B]

of guardrails around AI. This is such a powerful and such a new thing. From addiction to acceleration.

[A King]

The world we live in is a

[Mandy B]

competitive world, and I don't think that's gonna stop even if you did a lot of redistribution. You know, we have a deep desire to excel and be competitive and gain status and be useful to others. And it's a multiplayer game.

[A King]

What does the man who has extraordinary influence over our lives have to say about the weight of that responsibility? Find out on Mostly Human. My highest order bit is to not

[Mandy B]

destroy the world with AI.

[A King]

Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Mandy B]

Well, y', all, this is not a sports podcast.

[A King]

But speaking of people and disappointing you and saying things that might get them in trouble.

[Mandy B]

Okay, We. I don't wanna spend too much time on it. Sure, yeah.

[A King]

Cause.

[Mandy B]

But. Well, I just want to say that Duke. All you had to do was hold the goddamn ball.

[A King]

It's really all you had to do. There was no reason to make that pass.

[Mandy B]

Hold the God damn ball. Oh, my God.

[A King]

Be the little things.

[Mandy B]

Which is crazy because 04. I want to say it was 04. They were upset by UConn as well in, like, the semifinals.

[A King]

They know that heartbreak.

[Mandy B]

I am a Duke fan, y', all, through and through. If y' all watch the video, I literally have a flag up here on the wall behind me. How much are you going to get undressed?

[A King]

How many, baby? We got limited. Hold on. Let's see what we got going on. We got future on there. Oh, yeah, yeah, we got future.

[Mandy B]

If you could take one more layer.

[A King]

Yeah, we got Usher, Gucci. We're gonna get into that later. We're gonna get into that later. Little John. I might gotta put a question mark on Chili.

[Mandy B]

I'm weak. Y' all don't even got TLC down here.

[A King]

I might go does t boss with chili outside of. Okay.

[Mandy B]

Different.

[A King]

Yeah, yeah. I've seen them hang out. I've seen them hang out. TI T Bodge, you better.

[Mandy B]

I mean, I'm up and downs throughout the season.

[A King]

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's gonna happen.

[Mandy B]

Anyways, hope you guys are enjoying or did enjoy March Madness. Definitely. Probably one of the best times in sports.

[A King]

It's been a hell of a year.

[Mandy B]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyways, just wanted to say,

[A King]

but

[Mandy B]

this is what happens when they've been pissing me off since last four years.

[A King]

Coach. Oh, yeah. Shout out to St. John's Rick Patino got the bag. He got an extension. Big bag.

[Mandy B]

The bags in college sports right now are crazy.

[A King]

Crazy.

[Mandy B]

That's why them college coaches be like, I'm not going to the NBA for what?

[A King]

I'm staying right here to deal with you divas.

[Mandy B]

I'm staying Right here. Yeah. No. Okay. Anyways, let's get into Jaden Ivey, a Chicago Bulls player who's waived after his anti LGBTQ rant that is being rephrased as just a high religious belief conversation and acknowledgement. Yomi, if you could go to the clip and play the initial rant that got this motherfucker waved.

[A King]

The world can proclaim lgbtq, Right? They have. They have. They proclaim Pride Month and the NBA. They proclaim it. They. They show it to the world. They say, come, come, come join us for Pride. For Pride Month to celebrate unrighteousness. I was with. Waiting for. They proclaim it. They proclaim it on the billboards. They proclaim it in the streets. Unrighteousness. So how is it that. That one can't speak righteousness? How is it one that. How. How. How are they to say that? You. You. Man, this man is crazy.

[Mandy B]

Okay,

[A King]

this. Was this what you stopped? Was this the follow up?

[Mandy B]

No, no, no, no, no.

[A King]

This is just something he.

[Mandy B]

Because he's still there. The follow up is him in somewhere else talking about him getting weighted.

[A King]

I don't have no team no more.

[Mandy B]

I don't have a team anymore. Yeah, this isn't even the follow up. I think this might have been right after. I don't know. But we could stop, just get this off the screen. Because he pisses me off. What also pisses me off is all these other athletes that are now coming out also in support. Like, he can share these religious thoughts and views. Xyz, L, M, N, O P. Right. Before he entered the draft, he knew where the NBA lined. This isn't new. This isn't new. The NBA having a Pride Month or supporting LGBTQ rights or Black Lives Matter or whatever. The NBA has publicly stood by. You knew. So if this didn't align with you or your religious beliefs and values, you just probably shouldn't have aligned with this corporation, because that's essentially what it is. That's essentially what it is. And so if you're working for a company that stands and aligns with certain views that you don't. Don't go work for the company, you're not gonna be. You're not gonna go work for Chick Fil A and then get on your public platform and be mad that they're closed on Sundays because they're fucking Christian or. You know what I mean? Like, then why work for them? Why work for them? Allegedly, there's more talks about this as well. His waiving also came from just him having, allegedly, some contentious relationships with some of his teammates as well. And I don't know, what are y' all's thoughts on this?

[A King]

Well, a, I agree with everything that you're saying. I think that, like, first and foremost, if your religion or your God supports hating people, then, like, I'm cool on your religion and your God. Like, this is Easter weekend, so I don't want to get struck down, but, like, I'm not. Like, to me, that's lame. That's whack. To me, that's.

[Mandy B]

Christianity is also come as you are. Christianity is just so full of so many hypocrisies because it's supposed to love your brother, love your neighbor, love your neighbor.

[A King]

Yeah. All of that shit, I think, is the interpretation is whatever fits one's narrative. Of course, that's where we get the issue, because we. We're interpreting the Quran, we interpret in the Bible. We interpret all of these things to fit. What do you call it? Cognitive dissonance to fit your own shit. That's the issue. Confirmation bias or selective. That's why I won't even put it. Put it on the religious work. Yeah, I'm just. I'm over the whole spirituality shield of. I can hide all my isms behind God. I can hide all my isms behind. I can misogyny, anti homophobia, anti trans, all of these things. I can hide racism. I can hide behind God because God ordained it to be. So I'm just over that whole concept. In his response after, in the clip, he's talking about he got cut and he waved and all that, he said, I'm nothing but a good teammate. I passed the ball to them, I practice with them, I play hard. I do all these things for my teammates. What did I do to the players? Well, first off, sir, you don't know if any of your teammates are gay or not. You don't know if any of your teammates are bisexual. You don't know if any of your teammates are intersex. You don't know if any of your teammates are any letter of the lgbt. For all you know, one of your teammates might be trans, and you just don't know.

[Mandy B]

Well, here's the other thing. He. He has continued to talk on his social media around his wife, you know, removing herself from him, his family, not reaching out. He has mentioned in a podcast that he's tried to die multiple times by suicide. And so there is a mental.

[A King]

In reaction to this?

[Mandy B]

No, just.

[A King]

Oh, in general in life.

[Mandy B]

That's what I'm saying. Like, there's a mental religious Psychosis issue happening right here. He does say that he's not ashamed to say. I'm not ashamed to say it because God was merciful to keep me here. This is him talking about his almost trying to commit suicide by oxy pills.

[A King]

Well, I hope the brother gets help. Like, get the help you need.

[Mandy B]

He needs help. But this is my thing when we talk about religious people, right? You care so much about the gays, the lgbtq, Alphabet City, but yet you haven't spoken out about all of these NBA players creating families out of wedlock. You haven't talked about all these people within this league that commit adultery or lay their hands on their. There's all these different sins, but the one that makes you so angry is same sex people having sex. Why you care so much about it?

[A King]

They love the cherry pick sin. Like, that's part of the dogma, like, cherry picking, but they love that shit. And most of them revolve around sex. All the other sins that you can

[Mandy B]

do except adultery, they don't care about the cheaters. They don't care about all of these broken homes that are being created, all of these men that are having children without being married or even having sex while being married to somebody else. None of that is something that they want to speak out about.

[A King]

And the other thing I always ask these people with these kind of views is, so what would you. What is your goal? Like, what are you trying to achieve? Would you just. Are you saying that the world would be better off without LGBT people? Should they all go away? Is that what you're saying? Would that be because these people exist and you're gonna see them in the world? So the idea of him saying, like, oh, they show them on billboards, nigga, they're people living on Earth. Like, what would you want to do if you're so anti lgbtq, what do you want to do? You want them to exist, but you don't want to see them? That's what you're saying? You say you want them to. You can live, but just don't be in my eye line or don't do any of that shit.

[Mandy B]

My problem with this rhetoric is that people literally act like when they walk outside, they're seeing dick and booty.

[A King]

Yeah, People just. It's just trans people outside.

[Mandy B]

Come on, dog dick and ass. You're not seeing. You're not seeing a man suck.

[A King]

Like, you're not.

[Mandy B]

I don't. You're not seeing bitches scissor when you walk out of your home like, oh, my God.

[A King]

And you probably want to join in, to be honest.

[Mandy B]

Oh, here we go.

[A King]

Maybe you know these classics? No, but. No, but they be. Talk that shit. And then all of a sudden, he. Christy Gnome's husband with titties. And the only thing like that's how you like that type of. Somebody said sideboard. They said Christie didn't know him. But, yo, I would say to your point, yo, bro, you're in the league. You know, the league is a big business. It's a big corporation. They have a lot of sponsors they deal with. They do all these things so the players can get paid. Hence him getting paid, right? Read the room, bro.

[Mandy B]

Read the room.

[A King]

And you had case study. That organization in particular. Now, I'm not trying to unpack this scenario, but there's a guy named Craig Hodges, years ago that was exiled by his team. And he was a great NBA player, was one of Michael Jordan's teammates, won the championship, all of that. He's very outspoken about how he feels about whatever. And he's no longer. He's an afterthought. Listen, man, you have a case study. So the thing is, you participate in the business of it, you can't now, you can't do that.

[Mandy B]

You can't go against the.

[A King]

I'm not saying you gotta. You can't seek help. Clearly, this was a help thing. Because if he tried to off himself previously, there's something else happening. Yeah, he needs some help. Coincidentally correct that we're getting this. I don't even know what triggered him even be in his car. So he just started to get on live and start talking about it, probably. You know, these types can't stop. They can't just shut the fuck up. I tell them like they tell us when the police beat us up, just comply.

[Mandy B]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie.

[A King]

All you gotta do is comply.

[Mandy B]

He's very judged.

[A King]

You won't get cut for your team.

[Mandy B]

He pushed back the narrative about him being crazy. And he said, they don't say people who go to clubs are crazy or people who smoke weed are crazy. But to be crazy.

[A King]

Yeah, and stop that shit too. Stop. Stop that shit. Don't talk. I hate these niggas. No, he shouldn't be talking right now. He just shitting talking, homeboy. But you got cut. You gotta talk to somebody.

[Mandy B]

Talk to the lady.

[A King]

Talk to the lady now. Talk to the lady. You gotta get your family right now. Cause they looking like, what the fuck? I gotta go work.

[Mandy B]

Nick didn't stop it.

[A King]

I mean, look, Nyah's family, man.

[Mandy B]

He gotta go work now. By the way, we did look this up because before we potted, we looked into whether he even got minutes, whether he was playing.

[A King]

He's a rotational player. Yeah, he was a decent bench player. Right. He's in the rotation. You get 17 to 20 minutes a game. You're a factor. He played four games for the Bulls. He was averaging almost 30 minutes a game. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Yeah.

[A King]

Averaging 11.8 average of 15 points for his career.

[Mandy B]

He's significant for his career. Oh, okay. And he was playing. He's been in the league since 2022, playing with Detroit.

[A King]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

Okay.

[A King]

So, like, you've been around a little while. You know what's going on here. Yo, look, the success, the money, all the things that afford these lifestyles, that shit don't mean shit if you're not getting help, if you don't have people that's around you, that's centered, that are in line or that could help you see the world differently. This ain't back in the day where you could just do all of that shit. We live in a world, bro. There's everything. There's every nationality, there's every creed, there's every race, every religion. Yo, we gotta be community, you know what I'm saying? If the shit don't align with your beliefs, then maybe you shouldn't be in the league.

[Mandy B]

It's so easy, bro, to just keep your homophobia, transphobia, and racist thoughts in your head. Just. You don't need to say it out loud. If you really are a hatred of humanity, which is, at that point what it is, you are a hater of people existing in the way that they exist.

[A King]

They choose to exist and how they choose to exist.

[Mandy B]

You could just keep that shit to

[A King]

yourself, but these same people would preach to you about freedom and how important freedom is to them and how much they want freedom and how much individualism is important to them and. But when aren't living the way that you want to live? Now? It's something like, come on, bro. Yeah, that. Come on, bro. That's not how this works. Oh, and. And the last thing I say for this, too, because I got to get this one out. People talk about free, talk about freedom. Freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is not about you getting fired from your job, from saying something stupid. It's not from the backlash of people. Freedom of speech is about you being able to say what you want and the government doesn't come arrest you or kill you for. That's it.

[Mandy B]

Well, also, freedom of speech does not go without Freedom of no consequence. Yes, there are going to be consequences.

[A King]

That's just how this works.

[Mandy B]

For what the fuck you have to say.

[A King]

That's just how it works, bro.

[Mandy B]

Like, I am in the consequence of dealing with y' all's comments and y' all fighting because the way our clips are cut up, people are like, oh, my God, I wish this conversation was deeper. Bitch, it's 10 minutes long. You just saw a 56 second fucking clip and you upset. I ain't gonna hold you either. Last week, I got dragged about the goddamn. Oh, I had to unblabbering.

[A King]

They are mad, mad, mad.

[Mandy B]

Here's the thing. When we have even these conversations, right, What I don't like is an echo chamber of what we all. We're friends. We actually have a lot of the same views on a lot.

[A King]

Yeah, of course.

[Mandy B]

But what this show is also about and what I don't think people understand is we are responding to what we see, the backlash and what we see the conversations to be online as well.

[A King]

Correct.

[Mandy B]

So when I pose a question, a lot of times it's not my belief as to why I'm posing the question.

[A King]

This is what people are.

[Mandy B]

This is what people are literally asking and questioning and having the conversation about. Nigga, they are cutting.

[A King]

They are calling me every bit. Ain't her mama white? You know, that's the first. You know, that's the first one I like. Come on, don't do that. You know that is what they are. Ms. Mandy is legit.

[Mandy B]

Thank you.

[A King]

Ms. Mandy is dope as shit. Ms. Mandy, you relax. But they do that shit for. They know. They know you can't.

[Mandy B]

Iha. Ms. Mandy, let me tell you how one nigga hopped in them motherfucking comments and was like, well, she must really just hate her Jamaican side. Cause she doesn't like her daddy. And Ms. Tammy, this nigga knew my whole fucking. My whole literally upbringing. I said, are you a fan?

[A King]

I was to say, that's a fan. They are. Yeah. But.

[Mandy B]

Nah, they cutting ass.

[A King]

And I'm like, do you use discernment when you respond to them normally?

[Mandy B]

I just say, your mother should have swallowed you.

[A King]

Damn.

[Mandy B]

No, it's the people in there.

[A King]

They're just miserable. They wouldn't be able to inject. I don't know why.

[Mandy B]

Okay, let's get into this one. So now we about to talk science. Okay, hold on. Not only are we talking, you know what?

[A King]

We don't see that.

[Mandy B]

I don't know.

[A King]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

But we're talking about people needing help, man. Y' All Deontay Wilder may have the case of cte. Damn, If I had to guess. Let's play the clip, y'. All. Deontay Wilder just sat on Piers Morgan's show, and this is what he had to say about the conception of his daughter.

[A King]

Well, her mother didn't. Her mother tried to set me up to have the baby. You know, she ejected my sperm and her. And ran in the bathroom and locked the door, and that's how we had her. Really? Yeah. She don't even know I know this. Wow. But I'm telling it on to the world. How do you know that? I'm smart. You know, I used to. When I came, I used to come on her stomach, fold my towel nicely by the bed because I would want to wipe it off of her stomach. This particular time, she chose that she wanted to have a baby by me because I was the best thing that ever came into her life. Most of her relationship only last for two months or whatever because she. She was a promiscuous woman. I didn't know it at the time. I only found out by reading her journal. She didn't know I read her journal either. I did what I do. I had a good nut, and I nutted on her stomach. This time I went and got the towel and tried to wipe it off. She hit my hand so hard. I thought she hit my hand like a home run, like a baseball player do a baseball bat. But she screamed no, as if she was being raped. She got up so quickly and ran into the bathroom and locked the door. Two weeks later, she was pregnant with my daughter. So, first off, yes, I didn't. I. I read the comment that he said. I didn't realize at first that he said this on Piers Morgan. He said it on the first of my hurt times. Funnier.

[Mandy B]

Unsolicited. Unsolicited. Let me tell you how. How my. My daughter was born, but I never

[A King]

seen Piers Morgan not interrupt nobody. No. Like, he's dumbstruck. He was like. Say, like, wow.

[Mandy B]

First off, I don't even. Where does this air Piers Morgan? I know it says Piers Morgan across the pond.

[A King]

I would say. I think it's on bb. Is it out on BBC? Across the pond?

[Mandy B]

I didn't know that you.

[A King]

No pun intended. Yeah.

[Mandy B]

This is on BBC.

[A King]

I think Peter was. No, I think. I think. Or maybe he got fired. I don't know. I don't know where. Let me find it. It's somewhere across the pond.

[Mandy B]

What is it? It has to be, because our guidelines

[A King]

aren't just Let you couldn't say come on her stomach. I had a good nut and I

[Mandy B]

had a good nut.

[A King]

Oh, you know what? No, this is his platform. Piers Morgan. Oh, so censored. Oh, oh, so it's a YouTube channel. Okay, this is a YouTube channel.

[Mandy B]

Okay, then that makes sense.

[A King]

He got Christ the cross on his, on his, on his hoodie. Oh, but wait, talk to me. Oh, but it does come on Fox Nation. Oh, well, it is on.

[Mandy B]

Fox allows nuts and nutted and come.

[A King]

I guess maybe on their digital platforms now. Fox is free Press.

[Mandy B]

I did look it up. It is very slightly near at all possible to conceive this way.

[A King]

Once sperm hit the air, that's it.

[Mandy B]

And begins to dry, the sperm don't swim.

[A King]

Yeah, I looked up the same thing. I saw that it can be anywhere from. Well, this thing I saw said anywhere from a minute to an hour. I don't know, about an hour.

[Mandy B]

Well, in a moist environment, in a.

[A King]

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. On your stomach, just laying down.

[Mandy B]

Stomach is not a moist environment.

[A King]

The ceiling fan probably on is cooling. You get that cool air on that nut. And then by the time she takes the air conditioned nut and get ahold of that right. Take that with. What is she taking it with? So that's my thing. All right, let's say she take her hand, she wipes it, then she goes to the bathroom and then she just like bap, bap, bap, bap. And then with a prayer.

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna lie now. I have had plenty of nut on me.

[A King]

Okay. Oh, man, this is not gonna bode well.

[Mandy B]

I know the way it dries really quickly. The only time it doesn't really dry is when it might get in my eye. Then I'm like, fuck, fuck, bro. I could feel them swimming in my eye.

[A King]

That's up. That's a creepy. That is a When last time you had an eye exam? Creepy feeling.

[Mandy B]

I be lying. The tadpoles is moving.

[A King]

Wait, the tadpoles? Michael Phelpson all in your cornea. When's the last time you had an eye exam? You know, you got 2020 vision.

[Mandy B]

I no, you don't. But I can still very well. But that's the only time it be saying like, I be like, God damn,

[A King]

get out, get out.

[Mandy B]

But when it go on my face, when it go on my neck, when it go on my back, when it go on my butt, when it go on my leg, when it go on my stomach, when it go on my

[A King]

tits, that's gonna be awesome. You know one thing she. That's Gonna be an awesome clip. I don't know how many clips. She don't let it go in. That's gonna be an awesome.

[Mandy B]

No, I don't let it go in me, but I like it. But it's.

[A King]

Cause fuck them kids.

[Mandy B]

You not just.

[A King]

She done put that shit all in the ethos.

[Mandy B]

Oh, yeah.

[A King]

They probably wouldn't even go in. They was like, ah, she done said she don't fuck with us. We going the other way. You know, we heard your podcast. We know what you be saying.

[Mandy B]

AI did it. Are y' all done? Are y' all done?

[A King]

He's swag. Surfing about that joint like, nah, bro,

[Mandy B]

I'm not gonna hold you. I did see Deontay Wilder on Traitors.

[A King]

Oh, yeah, I missed that scene.

[Mandy B]

He left by episode two or three for, like, it being too emotionally charged. He was crying because of knowing that people were lying, knowing that someone there was being not true or manipulative.

[A King]

Manipulative.

[Mandy B]

And so I do. He also does believe that his recent. I want to say either wife or former fiance left him because his career started going downhill. So he battles a lot with, I think, his mental health. And so to me, this is. I don't know if this is a clear cry or not, but to go on a national show, it's a sign of something.

[A King]

What's his relationship with his daughter? I wouldn't want to put that out there with my baby girl. Yeah, they gotta now hear that shit every fucking day.

[Mandy B]

I also think it's like, you really out here reading people's journals.

[A King]

Well, see, well, that's another dynamic too, right? Yeah, that's another dynamic. Cause now you enter in, even if that's in the home, it's still a private thing. Right? That's how she. She's talking to herself. She's trying to get her shit off. Right, right. That's sacred, you know, you don't go through that.

[Mandy B]

Could this be defamation? Could she come out? Because essentially he said, it's like, she raped me. Like, she. He's accusing her essentially of trapping him.

[A King]

I don't know what the legal standard is for this type of conversation, but maybe. I swear, every day we get some new shit, bro. I feel like a lawyer could make a good case somewhere. Yeah. I don't know, bro. I'm interested in the, like, if she used a syringe, I thought that too.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. There was no syringe. She literally. He said.

[A King]

Well, he used the word injected. Right. That's why I was like, that's a very specific word. Like injected. Like, I mean, could be injected like so.

[Mandy B]

Boom.

[A King]

But like so that mean that she would have had the master. She reached back after like. Yeah. Now it's time to go and start. Like, I'm gonna get this box of nigger and I'm gonna have this syringe under the pillow. And as soon as the nigga go off, I'mma just. How big is the tube?

[Mandy B]

That don't matter. We know there's the. And I don't know if it's ever really happened or if it's a myth, but the turkey baster.

[A King]

The turkey baster is a thing.

[Mandy B]

Do y' all know any woman who's ever turkey basted?

[A King]

What the fuck is that? You don't know about a turkey baster?

[Mandy B]

You don't know about a turkey baster? Do you know what a turkey baster

[A King]

is in this conversation? I'm clueless.

[Mandy B]

So. So there is a myth that women will take a turkey baster, squeeze the nut out of a condom and insert it into this.

[A King]

Oh, see, I had to be clear. Yes, but where would she hide that at? But that's what I'm saying in my mind, I'm trying to visualize the scene and I'm like, this is under the pillow. And the nigga ain't searching a pillow. He probably invested in activities. He not thinking about, oh, she got. You know what I mean? Like, as soon as this reaches. She did do that. She's a diabolical ass human being.

[Mandy B]

Where's Yalls favorite place to nut?

[A King]

It depends on. It depends on what's position. Yeah. Not pulling out is always gonna be the best place. If she's on her stomach, of course you're gonna like, not pulling out at all is gonna be the number one on Family Feud. That's the one that gets you 82 points. But what if she lock in? If she do the. Like the leg play? Like the leg cross, like the linebacker. Yeah, he's.

[Mandy B]

Here's the thing too. The fact that he said two weeks

[A King]

later she was pregnant two weeks later.

[Mandy B]

Your pull out game, sir, was not as great as you thought it was.

[A King]

Right.

[Mandy B]

And that's all it is. Your pull out game was not that strong. And maybe she ran to the bathroom because she had to use it. Like, mind you, as women, it is very healthy and necessary.

[A King]

The post nut pee is important.

[Mandy B]

The post nut pee is important.

[A King]

Maybe he nutted like 20% and then he pulled out thinking that I got it. And now he thinks that because he was able to get some nut off anytime I got caught lacking. I knew I was caught lacking a little bit. Right. I know you know what that 15, 20% feel like. Yeah. I didn't now the possibility. Now it's a little close. Like we should probably go get the little plan B or something. And you sweating every day.

[Mandy B]

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[A King]

10, 10. Shots fired. City hall building. A silver.40 caliber handgun was recovered at the scene. From iheart podcasts and best Case Studios, this is Rorschach. Murder at City Hall. How could this have happened in city Hall? Somebody tell me that. Jeffrey.

[Mandy B]

Who did it?

[A King]

July 2003. Councilman James E. Davis arrives at New York City hall with a guest. Both men are carrying concealed weapons, and in less than 30 minutes, both of them will be dead.

[Mandy B]

Everybody in the chambers ducks. A shocking public murder. I scream, get down. Get down. Those are shots. Those are shots. Get down.

[A King]

A charismatic politician. You know, he just bent the rules

[Mandy B]

all the time, man.

[A King]

I still have a weapon and I could shoot you. And an outsider with a secret. He alleged he was a victim of blackdown. That may or may not have been political. That may have been about sex.

[Mandy B]

Listen to Rorschach Murder at City hall on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or

[A King]

wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the on Purpose podcast.

[Mandy B]

My latest episode is with Noah Khan,

[A King]

the singer songwriter behind the multi platinum global hit stick season and one of the biggest voices in music today. Noah opens up about the pressure that followed his rapid success, his struggles with mental health and body image, and the fear of starting again after such a

[Mandy B]

defining moment in his career.

[A King]

It's easy to look at somebody and be like, your life must be so sick, man. You have no clue. Talking about the mental illness stuff. It used to be this thing that I was ashamed of.

[Mandy B]

I'm just now trying to unwind this

[A King]

idea that I have to be unhealthy physically or in pain in some emotional way in my life to create good music. If someone says that I did a

[Mandy B]

good job, I'm like, yeah, I'm good.

[A King]

Someone says that I suck, I'm like, I suck. Getting to talk about this is not common for me right now. I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

[Mandy B]

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[A King]

I'm Lori Siegel, and on Mostly Human,

[Mandy B]

I go beyond the headlines with the people building our future. This week, an interview with one of the most influential figures in Silicon Valley,

[A King]

OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. I think society is going to decide that creators of AI products bear a

[Mandy B]

tremendous amount of responsibility to products we put out in the world.

[A King]

From power to parenthood. Kids, teenagers, I think they will need

[Mandy B]

a lot of guardrails around AI. This is such a powerful and such a. A new thing. From addiction to acceleration. The world we live in is a competitive world. And I don't think that's gonna stop even if you did a lot of redistribution. You know, we have a deep desire to excel and be competitive and gain status and be useful to others. And it's a multiplayer game.

[A King]

What does the man who has extraordinary influence over our lives have to say about the weight of that responsibility? Find out.

[Mandy B]

I'm mostly human.

[A King]

My highest order bit is to not

[Mandy B]

destroy the world with AI.

[A King]

Listen to Mostly Human on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

[Mandy B]

Well, speaking of lawsuits, let's get into. Celebrities do the darnest things. Hey, King, See us up, baby.

[A King]

Wow. This is insanity. So Rappapoo Shiesty was recently arrested, accused and arrested. The robbing and kidnapping Gucci Mane. When the story first broke out, my initial thought was. I thought it was. I thought it was a rumor. I was like.

[Mandy B]

And there was a lot. April Fool's had so much fake news.

[A King]

I was like, yeah, there's a lot going on. I think msnbc, they had like a news story about TSA requires all carry ons to be clear, like see through and transparent.

[Mandy B]

And that was it.

[A King]

And then you go to the end of the article. So I was like, okay, like that. This is a fool's joke. But no, apparently this is not. Apparently this is a real thing. There's surveillance cameras and video and all types of shit. Now. He was doing this to get out of his contract. Right. I will say my heart goes out to Gucci and his fam, his father, who was also part of the melee. Oh, his dad was there? Yes. According to the story. Damn. Rapper Gucci Mane was allegedly kidnapped and robbed in Dallas by rappers Pooh Shiesty, Big 30, and others. According to U.S. department of justice, officials say nine people were involved in an armed takeover at a music studio in January. Multiple victims were robbed at gunpoint. Eight suspects were arrested across Dallas, Memphis, and Nashville. Oh, this was in January. This was in January. The story comes. Yeah. Damn. Okay. According to DOJ, Pooh Shiesty, whose real name is Lontra Williams Jr. Set up a meeting with three music industry professionals to discuss a recording contract. Once inside the studio, he and his and associates allegedly pulled out weapons, forced one. Wow. Forced one victim to sign the contract papers at gunpoint, and robbed others of cash, jewelry, and luxury items.

[Mandy B]

He just got out.

[A King]

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

[Mandy B]

Do you know how one of the things. How they are attaching him to this as well?

[A King]

What's that?

[Mandy B]

His ankle brace. His ankle monitor places him literally at this studio during the time.

[A King]

So you're doing this with an animal

[Mandy B]

with an ankle monitor, bro.

[A King]

So look. Authorities say one victim was choked during the incident while Big 30, whose real name is Rodney Wright Jr. Blocked the exit to prevent anyone from escaping.

[Mandy B]

You ready? And his daddy was a part of this too.

[A King]

Yeah.

[Mandy B]

So his daddy was a part of the robbery.

[A King]

Who? Pooh Shiesty's dad.

[Mandy B]

Well, Pooh Shiesty's dad was also a part of this melee.

[A King]

Oh, I thought it was Gucci Mane's pops.

[Mandy B]

No, no, no. It was Pooh Shiesty's daddy. That also was like. Yeah. So for me, it's like, damn. And we said, we just need more black fathers in the household. Look who we have.

[A King]

I think. I think. Wait a minute. Robbing with their daddies. But that's a little different.

[Mandy B]

Niggas robbing with they daddies.

[A King]

But, you know, there had to been another way to get out of the contract. Other than that. I get it, but it's like. You get it meaning I get the idea where artist wants to get out of another rapper's clutches.

[Mandy B]

By the way. By the way, if they are found guilty.

[A King]

Oh, it's fine.

[Mandy B]

Everyone involved is literally facing life in prison.

[A King]

Yes. Cause we talking about Tennessee, right? No, Texas. The laws in. Come on, man. They're not playing that shit you going to jail for. So now there's a big discussion across these Internet streets about Gucci snitching, that whole snitch idea? Nigga, tell, tell, tell, tell.

[Mandy B]

I mean, I'm not gonna lie, to be honest. So this was leaked by Tasha K. Back in January.

[A King]

Okay.

[Mandy B]

But there weren't details around it. This is clearly whether it was Gucci or not. If there were a few people involved in this robbery, kidnapping, you know, your life being threatened. Gucci isn't the only one that could have went and said this fucking happened.

[A King]

Hell, yeah.

[Mandy B]

Like I told y', all, don't do no crimes around me. I'm snitching. So if someone in that room genuinely felt like their life was on the line.

[A King]

Yeah, you put me in a fucked up spot.

[Mandy B]

You put me in a fucked up spot, nigga. I'm snitching. I'm telling. Big Rob, Big Nine, whatever, poo Pooh Bear. I don't.

[A King]

Whoever. Little poo, big poo, runny poo, watery poo, hello, diarrhea water. The real street shit of it is that I hate street. It's not a snitch if you didn't commit the crime or act with the individuals. He, the civilian, right. Who was victimized, was on the other side of the coin. So I don't know. This dude is almost 50 years old. Bro, can you pull up Gucci? Not trying to go back how long?

[Mandy B]

What was their deal or terms or contractions?

[A King]

Who knows? Who knows?

[Mandy B]

But being signed to Gucci, You've made millions with this, man.

[A King]

Yeah, he probably. Maybe there was a resistance to put out music. Maybe there was Gucci, you know, withholding him, putting out music. He also just came home, right? So maybe they wanted to plan it better or whatever. And he probably. Fuck all that shit. I'm hot. I need to get out here. Maybe that's the thing. And the N in him took over ankle bracelet. And committing crimes is insanity. Yeah, you're wild.

[Mandy B]

Interesting, because he did sign him in 2020. So he signed him fresh out. Because he got out in 2020.

[A King]

Mm.

[Mandy B]

By the way, for y' all who do not know, he got.

[A King]

No, but he went.

[Mandy B]

He was in jail. Well, he was.

[A King]

He recently got out. Recently? Recent.

[Mandy B]

Over the last year, served three years in prison on Sep. On.

[A King]

Yeah, October 2025.

[Mandy B]

Okay. Oh, wait. He just got. I thought he got out in 2020.

[A King]

No, no, no, no, no, no. He got out like six months ago. He served three years in prison on separate federal firearm charges. Yeah. 21 first day out was a big viral record.

[Mandy B]

After getting out, this did a kidnapping.

[A King]

Armed kidnapping, robbery. Yes. The judge is Going to throw the whole library at this. You're going down.

[Mandy B]

And you know what?

[A King]

He probably didn't think Gucci was gonna say anything.

[Mandy B]

You know what's crazy?

[A King]

That's why he did it.

[Mandy B]

I don't even mind. No, lock them all up.

[A King]

I don't care. Like, you lock them all up. You bought that, bro? It's a defense. You bought that.

[Mandy B]

There's no defense. How do you.

[A King]

There's no defense. The lawyer is gonna defense. Well, in this case, the lawyer will probably argue procedure inside of the case, or they'll say Gucci threatened him previous prior to doing this, and he took it upon himself to eliminate the threat, so to speak.

[Mandy B]

I don't know. I saw this and literally, again, something else. It didn't move me. I don't understand. Like, when you have the opportunity to provide for your family, to do better, that's the thing. A lot of these niggas don't want to do better, cuz. How the hell you just get out from the feds three months later, like, and your father helped you plan this shit?

[A King]

Recidivism is a real thing. Latrell Williams sr. What do they say?

[Mandy B]

The apple don't fall.

[A King]

Fall far from the tree.

[Mandy B]

That's what this is giving. Like, neither of y' all knew better. Neither of y' all wanted to do better. Like, and to be at a certain age. How old is he to live?

[A King]

Gotta be 30. I would think he's at least 30 years old.

[Mandy B]

Pooh shicey. 30. Or is he young? He's younger than that. Right.

[A King]

He's in the student early twenties. Something.

[Mandy B]

26.

[A King]

26, okay.

[Mandy B]

And did three. So he was locked up in the feds at 23.

[A King]

And. And there's no.

[Mandy B]

He had hit records at the time. What's his hit records? Push Icy. That's my dog. I mean, he not my dog.

[A King]

He cultivated a following.

[Mandy B]

He ain't nobody, dog.

[A King]

He cultivated a following. U I n's with the Shiesty, man.

[Mandy B]

Oh, he's the one that did the goddamn Shiesty.

[A King]

Shiesty. That's why he called it the Shiesty. It's him. Like, he. He. He had a very promising career, people. Oh, yeah, Like, Pooh Shiesty was going to be Gucci Mane Part 2. Yeah, he was going to be a star.

[Mandy B]

All these people look like robbers.

[A King]

Yes. Yo, she's so stupid. Did he have it on Pooh Shiesty? I don't think he had one. Right, right, right. Look, there it is. Look. Yeah, this is. Yeah, back in Blood, Right.

[Mandy B]

Lock him up. I actually hate this trend.

[A King]

Wow.

[Mandy B]

Like, I'm so mad he did this. Like, oh, y' all didn't on Decisions, decisions. I went to, like, a sex club and N was in there with shies on. Yeah. And I was scared for my life. I don't like the shiesty that's.

[A King]

Well, shiesty in certain weather. Temperatures. Yeah, that's problematic. Cause it's 90 degrees. You shouldn't be. You outside public. Masky on. Yeah, but. But he was going to be a huge star. And he's thrown it all away now twice. And I imagine that in the last. In the last jail stint he did, I'm sure the judge had words for him about, hey, like, don't fuck this up. Like, we don't want to see you anymore. You know, it's not gonna be no more chances. So, like, this nigga's going to jail forever.

[Mandy B]

Oh, look at him posing up with Lil Durk, who's also in the fets.

[A King]

But you know what? Gucci has a talent for finding talented knuckleheads.

[Mandy B]

Well, hold on. Yo, he said, wait, have you seen the Conspiracy, though?

[A King]

What's that?

[Mandy B]

That everyone that signs to 1017 or his label either ends up in prison or dead.

[A King]

Or dead.

[Mandy B]

So there's. He had a girl actually signed to him. What was her name? Oh, Empress.

[A King]

Yeah, Empress something. What's also, he signed this kid from Brooklyn, Coach the Ghost.

[Mandy B]

And what happened with him?

[A King]

And he's in prison now for a murder charge.

[Mandy B]

Let's. Let's go through those. Hold on, signees. Can we go through the people who. I mean, shit, even. Wait, Thug was signed to him, too? Oh, wow.

[A King]

Yeah, Thug came out on Gucci Foogiano,

[Mandy B]

but.

[A King]

Oh, that was homeboy from Florida.

[Mandy B]

Did you. Did you see. Have y' all seen that conspiracy theory, though, about.

[A King]

Yeah, yeah, everyone. Well, you know, but I think that's more of a big star.

[Mandy B]

Enchanting.

[A King]

But I think chanting is her name. I think he has his ear and feel for people who are impacting their local communities from a hundred perspective. And they just. I think coincidentally, part of that is they are in heavily with the street culture. Well, I said, but the street. It's local street artists. He's not. He's not like, tapped into. Like, who is the Jid of Memphis? Who is the Marco plus of Dallas? He's in charge. I think he might need to. Now, who is the hottest nigga driving a hellcat in your city? And I want to sign the.

[Mandy B]

Y' all brought up his Age. I do think that at point, some. At some point when things like this happen, like, you have to reevaluate where you're going to get your talent. Like, this is like.

[A King]

I would hope so.

[Mandy B]

This has to change his mind.

[A King]

Well, and this is a cultural thing too, right? It's. What do we as consumers of the music want, too? What do we want to hear? Right? They give us what it is, whatever they feel they're tapped into, and they. They present it to us. But that shit ain't working because these niggas aren't lasting long enough. Pause for us to see the trajectory of what could be. So maybe to your point, why not get behind, you know, a Marco? Plus, what's this nigga from Atlanta that's fucking dope as shit, but I feel like nobody gave him his proper shot. Oh, Hitchcock. Deontay Hitchcock. People out everywhere, you know what I mean? I think we just have to change the conversation and narrative of how we fucking amplify these youngin. Well, at this point, Gucci gonna start signing pop acts. He gonna need to go find the next fucking Sabrina Claudio or goddamn Chapel Ron or somebody signing him 10:17. And stay out of this bullshit. Cause like, this can't. At this point, the juice ain't worth the squeeze. Like, it just can't be.

[Mandy B]

You see what you did, though?

[A King]

You see what I'm talking about? It just can't be like, all your acts are dead in jail or turning to Nicki Minaj, and none of that shit should. I wish this whole thing didn't happen. I wish they sought a different way to resolve that contract issue and to get there. And now trajectories of 8, 9, 10 people are changed. Yeah, this is lawyer work. This is not AK47 kidnapping tie you up work. This is go get a lawyer, give that nigga $25,000 and tell them, get me out of this shit. Yeah, that's what you. That's how you supposed to handle this shit as a rich adult. And niggas just can't leave the streets alone.

[Mandy B]

Can't leave the streets alone.

[A King]

And the streets don't love you back.

[Mandy B]

All right, well, y' all hope y' all enjoyed this episode.

[A King]

This is a good time.

[Mandy B]

This was a good time.

[A King]

I enjoy jokes.

[Mandy B]

I didn't like the jokes, Ms. Mandy. It kind of ages me just a little bit.

[A King]

No, I was calling your mom that.

[Mandy B]

It's Ms. Tammy.

[A King]

I know, but I. I say because she's Mandy Senior. Salmon logic. More salmon logic. More sound and logic.

[Mandy B]

Soundman logic. Anyways, y'. All. Thank y' all for tuning in. Again, if you haven't or if you would like to listen to this ad free, head on over to the Patreon. It's patreon.com withmandyb if you want to see the full videos to our bonus episodes that drop on Fridays, that's also over on Patreon. And then if you want to watch this episode right here, make sure you head on over to the YouTube subscribe. That is YouTube.comithmandyb y'. All. This was fun.

[A King]

Hell yeah.

[Mandy B]

Let's get into some extra chaos now for the bonus episode. All right, y'.

[A King]

All.

[Mandy B]

Well, this is another episode of Selective Ignorance where curiosity lives, controversy thrives, and conversations matter. See you puss ass hoes.

[A King]

New album on the way. My Manda Marco.

[Mandy B]

What are y' all doing? What are y' all doing? Selective Ignorance, a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Thanks for tuning in to Selective Ignorance with Mandy B. Selective Ignorance is executive produced by Mandy B. And it's a full Court Media Studio

[A King]

production with lead producers Jason Rodriguez, that's me, and Aaron A. King Howard.

[Mandy B]

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[A King]

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[A King]

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[Mandy B]

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[A King]

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[Mandy B]

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[A King]

Peace to the planet Charlemagne. Tha God here. And listen, we are back. The Black Effect Podcast Festival is back in Atlanta on April 25th at Pullman Yard. Yeah, and the full lineup is nuts. We got the Grits and Eggs podcast, Deontay Kyle and Big Ice Cup Cat. We got Club 520 with Jeff Teague in the gang. Don't call me White Girl. Girl Mona will be there. Keep it positive, sweetie. With Crystal Renee. We got Reality with the King with Carlos King. And yes, Drink champs will be in the building. Okay. Plus, you know we're gonna have a lot of guests, so you need to join us. And we got the Black Effect Marketplace to picture podcast and everything you expect from the Black Effect Podcast Festival. Tickets are on sale right now. Go get yours@black effect.com podcast festival.

[Mandy B]

Don't play yourself.

[A King]

Okay?

[Mandy B]

Put up. Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast.

[A King]

My latest episode is with Noah Khan, the singer songwriter behind the multi platinum global hit Stick season and one of the biggest voices in music today. Talking about the mental illness stuff. It used to be this thing that I was ashamed of getting to talk about. This is not common for me right now. I need it more than ever. Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty

[Mandy B]

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or

[A King]

wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Nora Jones and my podcast Playing along is back with more of my favorite musicians. Check out my newest episode with Josh Groban. You related to the Phantom at that point?

[Mandy B]

Yeah, I was definitely the Phantom in that.

[A King]

That's so funny. Each day with me, each night, each morning. Listen to Norah Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Mandy B]

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