ILANA GLAZER — on their Hulu special 'Human Magic' and cruising for future husbands at Washington Square Park

Summary

Dinner’s on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson: Alana Glazer on 'Human Magic' and Navigating Parenthood

In this engaging episode of Dinner’s on Me, hosted by Jesse Tyler Ferguson, the conversation centers around comedian and actress Alana Glazer, best known for her role in the acclaimed series Broad City and her recent Hulu special, 'Human Magic'. Recorded at the renowned Jitlada restaurant in Los Angeles' Thai Town, the episode offers an intimate look into Alana's personal and professional life, touching on themes of parenthood, friendship, gender identity, and creative evolution.

Meeting Alana Glazer

Jesse begins by sharing his admiration for Alana, highlighting the profound impact of Broad City on the comedy landscape. He recounts an initial meeting with Alana during a live taping of Dinnertime Live with David Chang, emphasizing his excitement to have her as a guest on his podcast.

Jesse Tyler Ferguson (02:03): "I had never met them in person, but my admiration for them ran very deep."

Parenting and Family Life

The conversation swiftly moves to personal anecdotes about parenthood. Jesse discusses his experiences raising two young sons, Beckett and Sully, sharing humorous and heartfelt moments, such as attending Taylor Swift concerts to entertain his boys.

Jesse Tyler Ferguson (08:24): "We really do want to take our 4-year-old to concerts in the near future. He did see the Taylor Swift movie. Loves her."

Alana opens up about her journey into motherhood, the challenges of pregnancy, and the decisions surrounding expanding her family. She reflects on the emotional and physical aspects of pregnancy, including a memorable story about overcoming a breech position without a C-section through self-spinning techniques.

Alana Glazer (12:43): "I had self spun. My MDOB had no clue about spinning babies. It's incredible as possible."

Career Evolution: From Broad City to 'Human Magic'

Alana delves into her career trajectory, starting with the grassroots beginnings of Broad City as a web series. She shares the transformation of the show into a mainstream success and the personal growth that accompanied this journey.

Alana Glazer (37:08): "It's almost like a shooting star going across the sky that I'm straddling and holding onto, you know what I mean?"

Discussing her latest project, 'Human Magic', Alana highlights how her experiences as a parent influenced her comedy, bringing a deeper sense of vulnerability and authenticity to her work.

Jesse Tyler Ferguson (44:25): "You can check out Human Magic on Hulu right now."

Discovering Gender Identity

A significant portion of the dialogue focuses on Alana's exploration of her gender identity. She candidly shares how becoming a parent and the use of gender-neutral language in her personal life led her to realize her non-binary identity.

Alana Glazer (32:00): "I do feel like a fucking dude, you know, I fucking feel like Richard Simmons."

This self-discovery process is portrayed as both challenging and liberating, underscoring the importance of language and personal reflection in understanding one's identity.

Friendship and Relationships

Alana discusses the intricate dynamics of friendship, both platonic and romantic. She describes her close bonds with her brother and gay friends, as well as the deep connection with her husband, whom she met serendipitously in Washington Square Park.

Alana Glazer (24:39): "We met in Washington Square Park. It was a literal meet. Cute."

The conversation touches on the evolution of relationships over time, especially in the context of parenthood and career demands, highlighting the resilience and adaptability required to maintain meaningful connections.

Reflecting on 'Broad City' and Creative Legacy

Alana reflects on the origins of Broad City, reminiscing about the early days of creating sketch comedy videos with her co-creator, Abbi Jacobson. She emphasizes the show's role in paving the way for diverse voices in comedy and the personal significance it holds for her.

Alana Glazer (38:06): "We were so obsessive about the web series, we had a microcosmic version."

Closing Thoughts

As the episode draws to a close, Jesse and Alana share their optimistic outlooks on life and humanity. Alana expresses her belief in the enduring human spirit, while Jesse echoes her sentiments, reinforcing the episode's overarching themes of hope, connection, and personal growth.

Alana Glazer (20:52): "I really do think humanity will prevail."

Jesse Tyler Ferguson (20:54): "I agree with you. I'm an optimist."

Final Quote from Alana Glazer (44:54): "This was so good."

Conclusion

This episode of Dinner’s on Me offers a heartfelt and multifaceted exploration of Alana Glazer's life, seamlessly blending personal stories with professional insights. Jesse Tyler Ferguson's thoughtful questions and genuine curiosity create a space for Alana to share her journey authentically, making it a compelling listen for fans and newcomers alike.

Notable Quotes:

• Jesse Tyler Ferguson (08:24): "He did see the Taylor Swift movie. Loves her."
• Alana Glazer (12:43): "I had self spun. My MDOB had no clue about spinning babies."
• Alana Glazer (32:00): "I do feel like a fucking dude."
• Alana Glazer (24:39): "It was a literal meet. Cute."
• Alana Glazer (20:52): "I really do think humanity will prevail."

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Note: This summary excludes promotional segments and advertisements, focusing solely on the substantive content of the conversation between Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Alana Glazer.

Transcript

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

The other day I was making lemonade with my sons, Beckett and Sully, and Beckett is a little bit of a perfectionist. I'm not sure where he gets that from. It's me. It's definitely me. But he was getting really upset about the seeds falling into the juice, and it was turning into a bit of high drama. Now listen, there's an easier way to do this. Who knew? Wonderful seedless lemons are a 100% naturally seedless lemon variety. They're juicy, zesty, bright, and everything you love about lemons minus the See, that's right. No more seeds floating in your lemonade or Diet Coke or getting caught in your teeth when you take a bite of salad. Frankly, that's just a hazard. Wonderful seedless lemons are available nationwide at retailers such as Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Walmart, Kroger, as well as select Costco outlets. Look for wonderful seedless lemons at your local retailer or visit wonderfulseedlesslemons.com to learn more.

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[Alana Glazer]

I was definitely in a yo yo cycle for years of just losing weight, gaining weight, and it was exhausting.

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[Alana Glazer]

My relationship to food before Noom was never consistent.

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[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

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[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Hi, it's Jesse. Today on the show. You know them from their critically acclaimed series Broad City, their recent film Babes, and their latest comedy special on Hulu, Human Magic. It's Alana Glaser.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Can you imagine?

[Alana Glazer]

Fucking Gen Z. Richard Simmons.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Totally.

[Alana Glazer]

They're incredible, by the way.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, they are.

[Alana Glazer]

They're incredible. They're unstoppable. They have a light that shines beyond the room.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

They're in this is dinner's on me and I'm your host, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Broad City, the Comedy Central scripted series starring Ilana Glaser and Abbi Jacobson has got to be one of my favorite comedy series of the last decade. With its humble roots as a sketch comedy web series, it absolutely opened up the possibility of what a television show could be and also who could create it. That show became a launching pad for Alana and Abby, its young, brilliant creators. And since its series finale, they have both been so busy making an impact in both television and film. A few months ago I was asked to be a guest on Dinnertime Live with David Chang and I was so excited when I heard that the other guest would be none other than Alana Glaser. Now, I had never met them in person, but my admiration for them ran very deep. David Chang's show was taped live and Alana was running late. So we were getting live updates from them on their way to the set and it seemed like I was going to have to to meet Alana for the first time live on television. Now, fortunately, they arrived right before we went live and I got to gush to them before the cameras actually turned on. But after we wrapped that show, Alana and I talked about having them on as a guest on my podcast. I was so glad that Alana made time for me when they were in town to promote their new comedy special, Human Magic. Get on time. Cause this live, I I was like.

[Alana Glazer]

Is he just popping it down in the middle of a restaurant and you are?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Indeed. I brought Ilana Glaser to gitlada in LA's Thai town, which I guess is technically East Hollywood, but it's a part of LA that makes me feel so lucky to live here. Truly. It's hard to walk a block here and not have some of the best curry of your life. Don't let Gelada's hole in the wall vibes fool you. Jonathan Gold, may he rest in peace, was a regular here. It's featured in the Michelin Guide and numerous food documentaries. Walking distance from the old UCB theater on Sunset. It also garnered a lot of love from comedians and show showbiz types. Try not to be distracted by Simpsons creator Matt Groening's illustrations, which he drew for the restaurant and adorned the walls. Gelada's spicy food and eclectic energy felt like just the vibe for my friend Alana. Okay, let's get to the conversation.

[Alana Glazer]

How's your day?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It's been good. I actually flew in from this morning. I woke up in Vancouver this morning.

[Alana Glazer]

You woke up in Vancouver.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

In Vancouver.

[Alana Glazer]

In Vancouver.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Don't know how I got there.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Shit. Oh shit. It's one of those. No, I woke up in Vancouver because I went to go see Taylor Swift's last show on Sunday. It was really incredible.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, she's so special and powerful and like a magical white woman.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

She is a magical white woman. You know what I mean?

[Alana Glazer]

She's just like positive and.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, I mean it was. I saw her in LA when she performed after 1989. I was like, oh, I like this.

[Alana Glazer]

Cool.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I like this a lot.

[Alana Glazer]

Love.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And then she started re releasing her old music, which I fucking love that she's a lot.

[Alana Glazer]

I love a litigious bitch.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yes.

[Alana Glazer]

I love a litigious money making woman who's like, oh, I wrote them. Do you know talent? Like, damn, girl.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So when she started re releasing that stuff, I started visiting her older albums and I was like, oh my God, forever. You've been amazing.

[Alana Glazer]

Cool.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Restaurant Server]

Hello guys. You ready to put in the order?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, do you? Have you looked? No. You haven't looked? What are some of your most popular dishes? I know, I love the celebrity chicken, but if there's something I should venture out and try, what would it be?

[Restaurant Server]

Well, green curry is gonna be always the most popular one. So basically you can't go wrong with curries or seafood.

[Alana Glazer]

Okay, I wanted to ask, I just saw that handwritten side, king crab leg curry. What do you think?

[Restaurant Server]

Well, the king crab leg is. Basically the whole crab leg is gonna be stir fry with your choice of sauces. For example, the garlic sauce, if you want like salty pepper kind of thing. Or the Thai curry, it's gonna be like a thicker kind of curry.

[Alana Glazer]

Yum. Very good. That one's good. It looks really good.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

If I got the green curry, would you have some with me?

[Alana Glazer]

Sure, but I'm really into that crab leg curry. Does that interest you?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I'll do that one.

[Alana Glazer]

Okay, cool.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

A taste of curry. I'm gonna have. I'm gonna do the celebrity chicken. I've been thinking about it all day.

[Alana Glazer]

Do you want a taste of my curry?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I want to taste your curry.

[Alana Glazer]

Okay, great.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That sounded so wrong.

[Alana Glazer]

Oop.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I want to taste your curry.

[Alana Glazer]

It's tasty. I will warn you. Dankly tasty. Okay, I'm gonna go with the king crab leg curry, which Jesse Tyler Ferguson said he wants to taste. And I'll do it with the Thai curry sauce.

[Restaurant Server]

The Thai curry sauce.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Is there an appetizer or something?

[Restaurant Server]

Well, probably one of our best starter Dish. I would say a salad called the crispy morning glory salad.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That's what you were saying, number 61.

[Restaurant Server]

Number 61 is basically deep fried Chinese watercress with fresh him and onions. Or number 21 on the white section, which is called a crying tiger.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I've had that. Isn't it super spicy?

[Restaurant Server]

Well, there's going to be a spicy sauce on the side, but the crying tiger itself is not.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I do remember liking that a lot.

[Restaurant Server]

Very good dish.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What do you think, beef or pork?

[Alana Glazer]

What did you say? Beef.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Let's do beef. Yeah, let's do beef.

[Alana Glazer]

May I please have sparkling water and a diet Coke? Thanks so much.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I'm gonna do a sparkling water as well.

[Alana Glazer]

Great. Thanks, Emil. Thank you. Okay, so you woke up in Vancouver.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I woke up in Vancouver.

[Alana Glazer]

You know, blackout drunk.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Blackout. Blackout.

[Alana Glazer]

From Taylor Swift.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

From Taylor Swift.

[Alana Glazer]

The baby stayed home.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

The baby stayed home.

[Alana Glazer]

Daddy's night out.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Daddy's night out.

[Alana Glazer]

So sweet.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

We really do want to take our 4 year old to concerts in the near future. He did see the Taylor Swift movie. Loves her.

[Alana Glazer]

You have two boys.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Two boys. Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

Delicious.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I know. Yours is three and a half now, right?

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah. Delicious. Yes. Uncle Elliot's here.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Uncle Elliot's here.

[Alana Glazer]

Eats her, dude. But boys, the vulnerability of boys that is so rarely allowed to blossom is so beautiful.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

So beautiful. These sweet little baby boys.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

He loves. He loves Taylor Swift.

[Alana Glazer]

Cool.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

We were watching some clips of the era's tour at home, and he was like, I want a beautiful dress. And I was like, great. So Justin was in charge of buying the beautiful dress online. Went to Amazon.com or something and bought something, and it came in the mail. What he bought, Beckett, was the homeliest little sack dress. Like Little House on the Prairie.

[Alana Glazer]

That's not what he wanted.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Beige. No, no. It has no shape.

[Alana Glazer]

No, no. He wanted a fabulous dress.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Well, he asked for a flowy dress. So it did have flow.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, Like a mumu has flow.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, exactly. 100% sure. And so it kind of just like, went away for a little while. But then the other day, when Justin and I. Justin was. When I was married. Todd Lincoln for Halloween. So he was wearing a dress with, like, you know, hoop skirt underneath.

[Alana Glazer]

Shout out to Kolee Scola.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Coliscola. Genius. Beckett, out of the blue, goes, where's my Taylor Swift dress? And we found the little sack dress, and he's been wearing it.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, he enjoys it now.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

He now enjoys it.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, I love it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, he's come around with it.

[Alana Glazer]

My kid does that too. Where she's like she says, no, no, return it. She says about everything. Yeah, I get it. Because they also have no choice in the matter. It appears out of nowhere. So I understand them needing to come to both discover and choose a piece of clothing themselves.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

So four and two.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Four and two. Basically. Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

Wow. You dang did it. Jesse Tyler Ferguson.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I love it so much.

[Alana Glazer]

I hope we're like in the. We don't know if we're going to have another one. To be honest. I'm hoping that we do. But if we do, it's gonna be such a big ass gap. Cause we were not like ba doom.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Boom like it would be.

[Alana Glazer]

I mean, part of it is like I physically. It's pretty taxing.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You talk about in your comedy special how you thought you were gonna do a C section because we.

[Alana Glazer]

My baby was at 37 weeks. Breached or breach?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Breach.

[Alana Glazer]

I think it is breached, but it feels like it should be breached. And I had all these false alarms. And my doctor told me the most frightening tale that is also a medical procedure. I was like, are you. Is this like saw four or whatever the fuck? Or is this a real medical procedure where if your baby's breech, one option you have is for my doctor and her words, some other woman. Who, where, who is this bitch?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Could be Hillary Clinton.

[Alana Glazer]

That's right.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Could be Michelle Obama.

[Alana Glazer]

Kamala could be any. Any person. Yeah, my doctor and just some bitch will knock me out, fully anesthetize me and squeeze the baby upside down from outside of my body while I'm out on the table. And I was like, this is the medical procedure. And she was like, yeah, that or a scheduled C section. And I was upset. I go home and do, like, really, really hard research. I make one Google search of spinning babies and I found a whole school of thought called spinning babies that this brilliant medical professional had no idea about. And I got in doggy style, face down, ass up for. Thank you so much. Face down, ass up for 20 minutes. And the next time I went to the doctor, my baby had spun around.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You had self spun?

[Alana Glazer]

I had self spun. My MDOB had no clue about spinning babies. It's incredible as possible.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I love your new comedy special and that story is truly magic because your body did a magic thing.

[Alana Glazer]

That's right.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Your comedy special is called Human Magic.

[Alana Glazer]

That's right. Thank you, Jesse.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It's so good.

[Alana Glazer]

Thank you so, so much. It means so much to me.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Well, it's obviously, it's centered on, you know, your birth experience, and it's a great yarn it's so relatable as well. Like, the fear of going into it and just all the shit you don't think about and just the brutal honesty of how fucking exhausting it is.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

When you're saying that you were going to have a second and you're talking about how hard it could be on your body, are you thinking, no, I actually want it.

[Alana Glazer]

Like, my body wants one more, but, like, I just don't know that we'll be able to do it emotionally. Like, we're so. I don't know, we'll kind of have to see what's right for both my husband and I. I'm a very more. More. More and more person, and my husband David's, like, really thoughtful and present, and I'm, like, already planning the other. And I know that's normal. Like, in our culture, it's normal to not think about it and just do it, but we were real thinkers, and the more you think about having a kid, the less it seems like a good idea to have one.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. I mean, the con list is long.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And, you know, when Justin and I were doing this, we did the same thing because we weren't sure if we wanted to do this. And there were all these cons, and, like, it was just like, wow, that is. This column is really long. And one of the pros was we wanted Beckett to have a sibling. And that, for some reason, outweighed so many of the little minutiae on the other end.

[Alana Glazer]

I know. I know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Not too long ago, I lost my.

[Alana Glazer]

Mom not too long ago. I'm so sorry.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Thank you. But having siblings to, you know, go through that with was, you know, gosh, I mean, so important. So I do think about those things.

[Alana Glazer]

Me, too.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

But it's like, you can't also make decisions based on who knows if, like, my sons will even be close.

[Alana Glazer]

You don't know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You don't know.

[Alana Glazer]

You know. And, like, also, my.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Although they fucking love each other right now. My God, it's so adorable.

[Alana Glazer]

So fucking cute. But, like, my. My. Even my OB was like, just do it. Can you just kind of. And it's like, first of all, like, no. Like, are you. Are you talking about, like, drugging him? You know what I mean? Like. Or do you mean, like. Like, what do you even mean? But I said to her, again, like a medical doctor, I was like, well, we really. I don't really want to, like, force my husband to create another child and parent another child. I really want it to be choice. We both have to kind of arrive at the choice because it is either life, not life, or death, but life or not life. And she literally was like, yeah, I guess it is a big decision.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

They deal with on such a high level. They're not even thinking about it that much.

[Alana Glazer]

And David was like, every day she just looked, you know, every day she's three kids and she's like, exactly, Exactly.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Alana tells me about the crazy experience that is birthing a human and their grandfather's self tape sketches that paved the way for their comedy career. Okay, be right back. Hey, it's Jesse. So I've got a bit of a crazy life. I have two kids under five, two dogs, a husband, a busy career. And I also just added another thing to my to do list. Hosting on Airbnb. Now, to be honest, I haven't yet pulled the trigger because I'm getting a little overwhelmed with everything I would need to do to be on top of everything. As a host, I'd want to put gorgeous photos up to show off the amazing space. I would want to make sure that I'm as responsive as possible to guests and anticipate any questions or needs they might have. You know, you got to get those good reviews. That's why I'm so excited about Airbnb's new co host feature. Now I can hire a local co host to handle all the details while I'm away. They can create my listing, manage reservations, communicate with guests, and even style my space. So it's perfect for every guest. It's like having a trusted friend who's really good at this stuff. Just take care of everything. I can focus on my family and my work, knowing that my home and my guests are in great hands. Find a co [e-mail] host this episode of Dinners on Me is brought to you by Nissan. These days, it feels like the world and our lives are moving at Hyperspeed. I mean, that's why I love doing this podcast. It's a chance to slow down, to truly connect with another human being and to enjoy the feeling of actually being in the present moment. On that note, I am very excited that Dinners on Me is partnering with Nissan, because Nissan understands that sometimes the greatest rush comes from not rushing at all. And with the all new Nissan Murano, you can enjoy an unapologetic refuge amidst the daily hustle and bustle of life. The Nissan Murano is not just a vehicle. It's a space where you can take a beat to catch your breath and re energize to be in the present moment. And trust me, this is the moment you'll want to be in and drive in. The Nissan Murano features an elevated modern interior design and a bold new exterior look. Plus, the expansive panoramic moonroof adds tons of natural light to the roomy cabin. With massaging leather appointed seats to help melt away the tension of the day and ambient mood lighting. With 64 color options to set the vibe just right. What's not to love? So thanks again to Nissan for sponsoring this episode of Dinner's on Me and for reminding us to take a moment and breathe. Learn more about the all new nissan [e-mail] Panoramic moonroof, ambient lighting and massaging leather appointed seats are optional features. And we're back with more dinners on me.

[Alana Glazer]

But you know, like, I was talking in my special about filming a show, the after party for Apple TV with so many funny people. And that's what I the show I was pregnant while filming.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right.

[Alana Glazer]

And like my titties over the course of this show would take place in 24 hours. Exactly. Right. And. And my like tits are blowing up. Like I'm having an allergic reaction or something. They looked. It was like, it was so.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And you were really sick. You were vomiting. It was just when you were vomiting foam. Was that another shoot?

[Alana Glazer]

Yes. On set I was like puking foam. It was so scary that I called my mom and I told her I'm puking foam. As though she would, you know, be really scared with me. And she was like, oh my God, that is so funny. When I was pregnant with you, every day at 4:30, I puked foam. She said. And she completely blacked it out. Just remembering it now, completely blacked it out. I was like, this is women's fight club. What are we doing? What are we doing? We don't share these stories. We are so separated from knowing our own bodies.

[Restaurant Server]

I got the crying tiger. I got the white rice. I got the celebrity chicken.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh my God. There you go. Please enjoy any of this that I have.

[Alana Glazer]

I will. Oh, I'm about to.

[Restaurant Server]

Your Thai curry king crab leg.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Thank you.

[Alana Glazer]

Like truly gorgeous.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Gorgeous.

[Alana Glazer]

Truly gorgeous. Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That's pretty. Guys.

[Restaurant Server]

Enjoy.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It's so intense.

[Alana Glazer]

Can daddy crab my.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

We cannot have you ruining your manicure.

[Alana Glazer]

Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Something that struck me that you said, and it's so true, after you bought this baby into the world, it's that thing of like. And the world is horrible.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah. Oh my God.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

We're going through so much. I'm so sorry. This was for me.

[Alana Glazer]

That's right.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It was so true.

[Alana Glazer]

That's right. This was for me. This was not for you. I'm really sorry, but welcome to hell. It is so fugly out there. It is fugly. But I. I'm a naturally hopeful person.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Me too.

[Alana Glazer]

It took me a few weeks, you know, to get back to a hopeful place. But I do have hope in people because of the human spirit is just too fucking beautiful.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

I really do think humanity will prevail.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I agree with you. I'm an optimist.

[Alana Glazer]

Where'd you grow up?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

In Albuquerque, New Mexico.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, right. I asked you this at David Chang.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Aw, I loved it.

[Alana Glazer]

Well, New Mexico.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What I did. And you were in Long island, right?

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, we were Strong Island. Yep.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Did you. Were you, like, anywhere near, like, Ina Garten? I just finished her memoir.

[Alana Glazer]

We were worlds away from. Yeah, we were more like even the Sopranos takes place in Jersey. We were more in the Sopranos. Yeah. Not even Jews. Like, we were. There were not a lot of Jews where we grew up either. Oh, was it nuts? Nutty.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

But how did. So you escaped? I mean, you would probably go into the city a lot, I imagine, as a kid.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God. And also, like, my brother Elliot was my, like, cultural guru, showing me the way to music and comedy. Four years older. Music and comedy and queerness. And. Yeah, I would just follow anything he did.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What, like, what were you going to see and what were you experiencing?

[Alana Glazer]

I mean, first of all, when we were kids, like, we used to make sketch comedy videos. Hours and hours and hours. That was, like, our focus. We. We had a network called KrapeTV. We inherited from our grandpa, Grandpa Dave. He used to, like. Our grandpa was so funny. He used to film sketch videos, like, just for himself. There was no outlet at the time. He would throw a rag on his head. Remember Pavarotti the.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

And Pavarotten. And he was like, Pavarottin. And we. And he would make us watch it because that's what YouTube was, forcing your grandchildren to watch videos you film. And he was so funny. And he called it KrapeTV. And then we, like, took it over. We really, like, thought we were doing a business deal.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And then it was, like, succession in a way.

[Alana Glazer]

In a way. And then we, like, rebranded into GBS Glazer Broadcasting System. We took it so seriously. That was, like, our main focus when we were little kids. And then when we got older, then Elliot went through puberty and abandoned me. It felt like he didn't develop. He was developing like a healthy teenage boy. But then once I, like, became a teenager, which was like six months later, because I developed pretty early, as you know, from the special. Yes, I did got big old titties when I was, like, nine. It was like scary tig ol freaking bitties.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I'm cracking this for you, by the way.

[Alana Glazer]

Thank you, Diddy.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I just don't want to get my fingers all over your crab meat. Oh, God.

[Alana Glazer]

Blah. Don't blah it. Don't. Don't disrespect the vagina. Even in euphemism, babe. But then, yeah, I don't know. Then we would go into the city, and there was, like, such a new comedy scene emerging around ucb. Around, like, literally, Amy Poehler's theater and group. Like, at first they started as the group from Chicago trying to make it in New York, and then they opened the theater, and it was so fun. We would take the Long Island Railroad in, and I would go to the shows that I could. I was like, right, 15, 16.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So you were. You were. I mean, at a young age, I mean, seeing some pretty sophisticated world of comedy.

[Alana Glazer]

And also, like, you know, with Elliot being four years older than me, I just wanted to, like. I wore his clothes.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Wait, where did you two meet?

[Alana Glazer]

No, Elliot.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, Elliot.

[Alana Glazer]

Like, my mom's pussy. What are you talking about?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I thought you were talking about your mom's second. Your husband's name is.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, David.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

David. Okay. Where'd you meet your brother?

[Alana Glazer]

Just outside of my mother's pussy.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Okay. That works.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah. But, yeah, I just wanted to, you know, I always wanted to, like, be him. So young. So, yeah, my husband and I met in Washington Square Park. Like, a literal meet. Cute.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It's like a lyric from Hair, the musical. Literally. It's actually. It's actually literally a lyric.

[Alana Glazer]

It is.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Tell me about that.

[Alana Glazer]

I was sitting on a bench, like, kind of old school, cruising, like, literally just like, sniffing out what's going on here on this hot summer day. It was the last Friday in June 2012, and, like, a flash of light, my husband walks by, and his eyes are, like, truly searing. He's like a very gentle.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

He's very handsome. I looked him up.

[Alana Glazer]

He's super handsome. Biologically half Jewish. Was raised Jewish and bar mitzvah. Just saying. And I was just, like. Instantly was like. We, like, had this, like, funny giggle, and I really. It was crazy. And I was sitting on this bench, and he kept walking, and I was literally like, who? Like, catching my breath. And he turned around, and I was, like, looking at him. And then he keeps walking, and I was like, oh, my God. And then he turns around again, and he's looking at me, and I'm just staring, like. And he walks off again, and I'm like, one last time, three times. And then walks off. And I was like, oh, my God. Like, that was so intense. It was the east catwalk of Washington Square park looking north at the arch, and I just. It was just so electric, I couldn't believe it. And then I call my best friend Inti, and I was like, holy fuck. I just had this, like. Like, just kinetic connection with this beautiful man with a stranger. And then we were just chatting, and then David reenters my frame from east to west, and I was like, oh, my God, I gotta go, I gotta go, I gotta go. And then.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Is he circling back?

[Alana Glazer]

Yes. He was grabbing a phone charger that he needed desperately. Slash testing fate, which I really appreciate, because, bitch, it was destined. It was fated. And I got off the phone, and I got up and I said, hello. And he said, hi. And I had just watched Beginners. You know that Ewan McGregor movie?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, totally.

[Alana Glazer]

So beautiful. And he's so beautiful in it, and, like, he and David really look alike. And I just didn't know what else to say. And I was like, did anybody ever tell you you look like Ewan McGregor? And he was like, mm, like just a dumb fucking thing to say.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Conversation cul de sac.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah. Yeah, it was. It was. I think he had heard it dozens of times that day because he really did look like him at that time. And then we talked for a while, and then I went to babysit, and I was like, I don't want to rush this. I got to go babysit. And. But then we were texting while I was babysitting. I was like, yeah, let's meet up. And we met up that night.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I love it.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, I love him.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Did you. What was the early days of dating like? Was it, like, casual? Did you, like, go deep in with him?

[Alana Glazer]

You know, I, like, was very independent. I had just had my heart broken. I had been ghosted for the only. The only time I was ever ghosted in my life by this. I guess you could call him a weak man. I had been dating this guy for, like, two or three months, and I was like, fuck this, dude. I'm over this. I'm never, like, falling in love again. And. And then. So when I met David, I was really trying to keep it casual for as long as it could be, but we were just, like, open and chill. But then that actually made us realize that we had to, like, define our love for each other.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Justin and I had this similar situation where I tried to keep it really casual at the beginning. And how old were you? Oh, gosh, I was in my mid-30s. Yeah. Probably like 36 or 37.

[Alana Glazer]

What was the proximity to Modern Family?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Modern Family had just started. I just done one season.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So it's also that thing of, like, you know, like, if there's a time to be single. Like, first of all, I thought about it two ways. I don't want to be single during this process because I feel like it's gonna be harder to meet people that have the right intentions.

[Alana Glazer]

Right, right.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

But also, like, what a time to, like, maybe fuck around, all of that.

[Alana Glazer]

100%, you know? 100%.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And so I told Justin I really want to keep it casual. And he was like, okay, that's fine. And then it got to the point where he's like, well, I. At some point, gonna have to define this. Like, I'm gonna have to call this something. I'm not gonna wait around forever. Like, we can keep it casual for a little while, and then it's gonna have to be something.

[Alana Glazer]

And what point was that at?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That was like, a few months in, and I was like, he's right, you know, it feels like it's time to call it something. And I, like, took a day, and I was like, okay, we're boyfriends now.

[Alana Glazer]

I mean, also, Modern Family. It's like one of the biggest shows, like, literally in TV history. Like, the stakes are intense, you know? The stakes are intense. I, like, didn't fully say it back there that it was like. So after I got, like, my heart broken, I was like, I'm open. Like, I'm never doing that again. I'm never being monogamous again. And David was like, okay, I get that. So I wanted to keep it casual. But then when he acted on that openness, I was like, wait, what?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

What do you mean, yeah? But then it was actually like, it's not exactly about the action for us. It's just that I was like, I just need to let you know that I love you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

You know? And it was like, fucking five weeks in. I never would have said that. I never would have said that without the openness as a factor.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right. Which is, like.

[Alana Glazer]

Which was, like, so beautiful, too, you know, you think you're doing, or. I thought it was, for one thing. But it was actually was for the true commitment.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

That it highlighted it for me. It was really ironic.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Alana tells me about how becoming a parent changed their feelings about their own gender identity and rewatching old webisodes of Broad City. Okay, be right back.

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[Alana Glazer]

My dad works in B2B marketing. He came by my school for career day and said he was a big ro as man. Then he told everyone how much he loved calculating his return on ad spend. My friends still laugh at me to this day.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

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[Alana Glazer]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And something that I was really struck by was that you discovered in yourself that you were non binary through the process of having your child, which I just find so interesting. Like, can you elaborate on that at all?

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, it's like interesting. It's like I sort of had a language for it by the time I had my kid. And you know what it was? It was language that was giving me making me realize this because I was like, you know, kept using gender neutral language about like pregnant parent without like claiming something yet. And actually to the point of openness. I was, we were in la actually, I was filming after party and you know, we were like talking about a woman, David and I and I was like comparing myself to her that I'm like not feminine like her in the same way. And I was feeling like off about it and like I was wrong and like to be honest, David and I had, you know like sex when you're pregnant is crazy. It's so crazy and amazing. So like I was feeling myself. It wasn't even that. It was like I was. I was feeling my, like, femininity and my masculinity. I was just feeling my body and my spirit. But then when I found myself, like, comparing myself to this just woman we were talking about and feeling off, I was like, what is it that feels off? And it did sort of. It did sort of just arise within me where I was like, they does feel right for me. They. And she feels right for me. But it was kind of in this context of openness and opening up the possibilities beyond the binary within my relationship and being like, why do I feel wrong? Oh, the construct is why I feel wrong. If I open it up a little bit, I do feel like a fucking dude, you know, I fucking feel like Richard Simmons. I look at him and I'm like, girl, like, I know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You know what I mean?

[Alana Glazer]

Like, and I. And I, like, I feel like. I don't know, just like. Like Jimmy crazy.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

If Richard Simmons was still with us, he'd be using different pronouns. He'd be exploring that.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God, can you imagine fucking Gen Z Richard Simmons?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Oh, totally.

[Alana Glazer]

They're incredible, by the way.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, they are.

[Alana Glazer]

They're incredible. They're unstoppable. They have a light that shines beyond the room they're in. Yeah. Like, I just.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

It just was like they power the entire East Coast.

[Alana Glazer]

They do, truly. Yeah. It was like. It was this sort of self discovery that had always been there and more about language. And the reason it, like, kind of came up somewhat publicly or whatever, was in a. During press for babes. This woman, I wish I had remembered her name, who was interviewing me was like, you use gender neutral language in babes. And like, I didn't even intend to talk about it necessarily, but I was like, you know what? I'm going to share this with you because you made a very astute observation and I appreciate it because I. I don't know, I appreciate it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, it's really interesting.

[Alana Glazer]

David and I just refer to all kids as they just. We just happen to. And I noticed it, you know, but it's like we just do. We call them kiddos.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Speaking of kids, I just remembered the other day. Oh, my God, you're on sesame street.

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, Mrs. Noodle, Sesame Street. If you're out there listening, please have me back. I switched agencies and my new agents don't know who to contact. I want to go back and do it so bad. They were letting me know, don't you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Have, like, Bill Irwin's number? He doesn't Want to know where his wife is? Bill Irwin is or daughter. I don't know what the relationship was.

[Alana Glazer]

Bill Irwin is so funny as Mr. Noodle. He's nuts. Yeah, Mr. Noodle is so funny.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Watching my sons laugh at Bill Irwin gives me so much joy because he's from, like, my world, Right?

[Alana Glazer]

It was such an honor to be Ms. Noodle and I hope I get to do it again. It was such an honor. And it was, like, so interesting because it was, as Brad said, it was ending that I did. I think I did like two batches of episodes and maybe it was like three and three or five and five or whatever. It was so interesting to go from, like, with Broad City. We're like, what's the funniest? What's the funniest? What's the funniest? And then to do Sesame street, the director, she was like, oh, that's cute. Oh, that's cute. So to go for cute was such an interesting, like, different feeling. Oh, that's cute. Let's do that. That's really cute.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

What a blast. And my little baby, she calls me Mommy Noodle. And when Elmo, When Elmo's like about to open the curtain the other day, she turned to me and went, I think it's gonna be you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I was like.

[Alana Glazer]

That was so cute. It was so much fun.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

There's so much stuff. I protected my kids from seeing me, like, on TV and like, weird things. But I did an episode of Sesame street where I got to. I worked with Cookie Monster. Working on. We talked about the word fragile. I break his cookie jar. Or he breaks my cookie jar, actually. And I show it to my kids all the time and they ask for it. And I love that it's such a.

[Alana Glazer]

Like, privilege and a blessing to have your parent in that world in your heart as a kid. I feel so lucky.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I love the Trinit. I absolutely love it. Speaking of Broad City, before you came here, I was like, let me go back and look at the very first webisode of Broad City.

[Alana Glazer]

That was what my husband. My husband says, like, because he had no idea. And we had just the web series out, but had sold it to FX and they had pass. But that first episode was what made him fall in love with me. Of the web series of the Making Change. Right?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Making Change with the in house person.

[Alana Glazer]

So you watched the webisode.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So I watched the webisode. It's so astonishing that that experiment that you had turned into this incredible series that ran for five Seasons. First of all, do you ever go back and look at those early? I actually watched. I watched the one, the very first episode, and then I watched the second one where Abby decides she wants to get stoned again. And you're in an apartment and you could tell. There's like no boom, there's no mic.

[Alana Glazer]

It is literally my apartment at the time.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And the sound's like really funky. It's very muffled, but it's still so good. And the chemistry's so great. I'm sure that must be such a highlight of your life to have created that show.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, it's like totally defining and not like in a. You know, of course there's like a career defining thing, but like, personally privately defining, working fucking hard with this woman who was equally as hungry for something and we didn't even know what the fuck, you know. Elliot Page and Aliya Shawkat had a show at the time developing at HBO called Stitchin Bitch with Harmar Superstar, a musician, and Lucia Agnello, one of the co creators of Hacks. You know, Paul Lucia, Paul, Debbie Downs, the fan. Jen Statsky, Luciano. I'm staying at Paul Lucia's house here tonight. I'm about to go to their house. Lucia wrote Abby and I the first day that Making Change, the first webisode came out, and she was like, you have something? You should send this to the people who are making Stitch and Bitch so that if Elliot and Aliya get this show on, you're like a writing duo for their show. That was what we thought we were going for. We did not even think that we were gonna make the show version. And having been so obsessive about the web series, we had a microcosmic version. It was almost like student government and then entering politics and really fucking doing it and being. And having this, like it was making the web series was almost like our own fable of when we got to the TV show. It was like we had trained, you know what I mean? Like, really had trained.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And well, you knew those characters. I mean, they're obviously versions of you and Abby. But it must have been so weird, like, on the first day when you, like, got a call sheet for like, Broad City. Like, it was like a call sheet with, like, pas.

[Alana Glazer]

And it was. I can barely remember it. Like, it was so. It was so huge inside of us that there was like, almost no space to notice the details. Like, so much of it is a blur because it's almost like a shooting star going across the sky that I'm straddling and holding onto, you know what I mean? Like, so wild. And it was really intense and really hard. And we were so hard on ourselves, like. Like, we just kind of, like, we would just be, like, at the office, sleeping at the office to write, like, butt jokes. Like, what are we for. What are we being so hard on ourselves about? But, like.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And being paid for it.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh, my God.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

And we were young. I was 24 when we first sold the script.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

And I was 27 when we were Started the show. Like, it was, like, so crazy and with, like, some distance and some. And, you know, that, like, success. And I say this with all the context of the privilege that comes with it, of course, but, like, there's. There is, like, trauma and success. It's very sharp and, like, takes from you also.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Absolutely. Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

And, like, with the space that we've had now and, like, the space to just be friends and one of each other's best friends for the rest of our lives, to have that, like, creamy, soft, sweet relationship now and that time since Broad City, it's like, we look back on it. It's like these, like, babies, you know, Each season we have, like, five babies. It's like, I feel so blessed.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You're so good at revealing different aspects of the female relationship. Like, I feel like Broad City talks about, you know, these. These young people who are sort of discovering themselves and figuring out how to navigate being adults and then with babes, which I also love so much.

[Alana Glazer]

Thank you so much. Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You're discovering, you know, being a parent and what it means to, like, lose connection with a friend who you. You relied so heavily on and sort of learning how to be your own person. Are there other, like, aspects of the female, like, friendship, relationship stratosphere that, like, are you, like, excited about exploring?

[Alana Glazer]

Yeah, I am. When, like, when I started, like, doing press for babes and talking about it, like, when I'm making something, I'm just fucking making it. I'm like. I mean, is this problematic to say I'm a Central park horse with, like, the blinders on, and I'm just. I was, like, bad sick, but I'm just, like, going and going and doing my thing. They do. I mean, it's, like, nuts, but. But I'm just looking down and doing my thing. But then when I start to talk about it, like, in this fashion, I'm like, damn, I got a theme. You know what I mean? And I do have a theme. And, like, I really definitely am so inspired to offering the nuanced parts of my girlhood and womanhood and feminine spirit as I discover it, claim it, and then feel like, okay, I got it, and release it, you know, but, like, friendship, too. Writing a show right now. I'm doing a rewrite, actually, of this, like, draft right now that's like Sex and the City with two women and two gay guys. Because, like, the woman and gay guy friendship is a big deal. My first best friend is my brother, gay guy, you know, all my best friends growing up, gay boys.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

You know, we were these little. Like, I wanted to be them. I want. You know what I mean? And also, like, something I'm interested in is the friendship that is at the center of, like, real partnership with your romantic partner. I've just found that fascinating. I've been with my husband for 12 and a half years, and I'm like, you know, it's only recent. In recent years that people say their spouse is their best friend. Like, really? Your best friend is, like, so. So fun and, like, I don't know. I. Women are fucking amazing. I'm obsessed. I love when women fucking bitch. I love when women are thrilled and powerful. I love when women are angry. I just love. You know, it's just like we at every class level across every, you know, race and culture, women get so fucked over. And when their human spirit either eeks out or blossoms fully, it just again, it's like a shooting star. I'm just like, damn, we're amazing.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Cannot wait for people to see the special. God, I'm so lucky. I guess by the time this comes out, it will, right? Angela would already have been. Yeah.

[Alana Glazer]

Oh. So you can check out Human Magic on Hulu right now.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You can check out Human Magic on Hulu right now. Because we recorded this in the very distant past. We recorded this last year. You guys, how did you.

[Alana Glazer]

Time travel? Time travel.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Thank you for doing this.

[Alana Glazer]

Thank you so much. I am so honored to be your guest.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Did I crack you enough crab? Do you need more crab?

[Alana Glazer]

Crab you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Do you want more crab?

[Alana Glazer]

Crack? I need enough crab. This was so good.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So delicious.

[Alana Glazer]

So good.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

This episode of Dinner's on Me was recorded at Jitlada in LA's Thai town. Next week on Dinners on Me. You know him as Gabe Esty Bryan on the Apple TV series Shrinking or Wilhelmina's right hand Mark Sable James on ABC's Ugly Betty. It's Michael Urie. We'll get into what it's like to work opposite legend Harrison Ford on Shrinking and why he was nervous about working with one of the biggest TV directors in the business, Jimmy Burrows. And if you don't want to wait until next week to listen, you can download that episode right now by subscribing to Dinners on Me. Plus, as a subscriber, not only do you get access to new episodes one week early, you'll also be able to listen completely ad free. Just click Try Free at the top of the Dinners on Me show page on Apple Podcasts to start your free trial today. Dinner is on Me is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and a kid named Beckett Productions. It's hosted by me, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's executive produced by me and Jonathan Hirsch. Our showrunner is Joanna Clay. Our associate producer is Angela Vang. Sam Baer engineered this episode. Hans Dale. She composed our theme music. Our head of production is Sammy Allison. Special thanks to Tameka Balance Kolasny and Justin Makita. I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Join me next week.