Dinner’s on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson Episode: Michael Urie — on the unexpected longevity of his ‘Ugly Betty’ character and being Harrison Ford’s costar on ‘Shrinking’
Release Date: February 11, 2025

Introduction and Background

In this delightful episode of Dinner’s on Me, host Jesse Tyler Ferguson sits down with the multifaceted actor Michael Urie, renowned for his role as Marc St. James on ABC’s "Ugly Betty" and Brian on the Apple TV series "Shrinking". The setting is the elegant Corteza at Sendero restaurant, perched on the 24th floor of the Ritz Carlton in downtown Los Angeles, offering panoramic views and a Baja-inspired culinary journey.

Journey to Los Angeles and Building a Friendship

[02:20] Michael Urie recounts a humorous anecdote from the set of "Mode Magazine", where a disgruntled crew member unexpectedly tainted the elevator with his own disposal. This story sets a lighthearted tone for the episode.

[02:32] Jesse Tyler Ferguson shares how he met Michael shortly after relocating to Los Angeles, highlighting their shared New York roots and mutual connections in the theater community. Jesse emphasizes the unique bond they've formed despite never having worked directly together on a project.

"Jesse: I think now Michael is such an intelligent and creative actor. So, you know what? If people think of us in the same breath, I consider that a huge compliment."

Michael’s Transition from Television to Theater

[04:56] Michael Urie discusses his shift towards a robust stage career on the East Coast, mentioning standout performances in plays like "Buyer and Seller" and "Once Upon a Mattress" alongside Sutton Foster.

[06:01] The conversation delves into Michael’s early theater experiences in Los Angeles, contrasted with the grandeur of venues like the Ahmanson Theatre.

The "Ugly Betty" Experience and Character Development

[14:05] Michael explains his audition process for "Ugly Betty", where he initially portrayed a different assistant character who was intended to change every episode. His commitment to emulating Vanessa Williams’ character led to a memorable audition scene where he injected Botox into her character's forehead.

"Michael: So, I was just trying anything. And I had this idea that I would emulate her physically... She comes over and says, 'Hey, I hear you're doing me behind me.'"

[17:41] Jesse reflects on how word spread quickly about Michael’s promotion from guest star to series regular after producers recognized his talent, despite initial contractual challenges.

Navigating Industry Challenges and Personal Growth

[18:03] Michael candidly shares the difficulties he faced with his agents and manager, ultimately deciding to fire them due to unfavorable contract terms. This bold move coincided with "Ugly Betty" winning the People's Choice Awards, marking a significant turning point in his career.

"Michael: I knew that my agents were not going to be able to get me anything because they had... I ended up firing my agents and my manager the same day because I knew I was stuck."

Balancing Television and Stage Commitments

[28:42] The discussion shifts to Michael’s dedication to theater, highlighting his role as Horatio in a production of "Hamlet" at South Coast Repertory in San Diego. Jesse praises Michael’s seamless transition between television and stage, emphasizing the importance of live performances.

Working with Harrison Ford on "Shrinking"

[43:41] Jesse asks about Michael’s experiences co-starring with legendary actor Harrison Ford on "Shrinking". Michael shares endearing stories from the set, including a memorable car scene where Harrison’s humor and humility shone through.

"Michael: Harrison's awesome. He loves acting so much... He looks at every scene like he starts from the beginning."

He narrates a specific incident where Harrison shared a photo of a fish he caught, showcasing the actor’s down-to-earth nature despite his blockbuster fame.

[46:44] Michael reflects on a humorous misunderstanding about "Working Girl" being considered gay canon, leading to a playful exchange with Harrison, which further solidified their camaraderie on set.

Awards and Recognition

[47:07] Michael expresses his gratitude and surprise upon receiving a Critics Choice Award nomination for his role in "Shrinking", marking a significant milestone in his acting career.

"Michael: I honestly can't believe it. Like, it was such a surprise and also, like, bittersweet, because it's the only nomination that the show got."

Final Reflections and Future Plans

As the evening winds down, Jesse and Michael toast to their enduring friendship and celebrate Michael’s achievements. They discuss potential future collaborations and tease a follow-up episode, hinting at continuing their engaging conversations in more intimate settings.

"Jesse: Are you ready?"

"Kay: Beautiful."

"Jesse: What has it been like working with Harrison Ford?"

Conclusion

The episode wraps up with Jesse inviting listeners to subscribe to Dinner’s on Me PLUS for early and ad-free access to future episodes. He also previews the next guest, Gia Coppola, promising insights into her esteemed filmmaking family and creative inspirations.

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• [02:32] Jesse Tyler Ferguson: "The fact that Michael and I have never actually worked together blows my mind."

• [14:05] Michael Urie: "I was like, this is good. Let's do what he's doing and let's play with him."

• [18:46] Jesse Tyler Ferguson: "You were a very popular character."

• [43:56] Michael Urie: "Harrison's awesome. He loves acting so much."

• [47:37] Jesse Tyler Ferguson: "I don't have any surfboards. No, I don't have the surfboard."

• [47:23] Michael Urie: "Thank you."

Conclusion

This episode of Dinner’s on Me offers an intimate glimpse into Michael Urie’s dynamic career trajectory, his enduring friendship with Jesse Tyler Ferguson, and his experiences navigating the entertainment industry. From his beloved role in "Ugly Betty" to sharing the screen with Harrison Ford, Michael’s stories are both inspiring and entertaining, making for a compelling listen for fans and newcomers alike.

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