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Welcome back to Dinners on Me. I'm your host, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. And here's more of my conversation with Josh Hutcherson. Speaking of meeting all those moons ago at the SAG Awards, if you remember, he was there for the 2010 movie the Kids Are All Right. It stars Julianne Moore, which reminded me of something that happened this summer. Okay, back to the conversation.
Josh Hutcherson
You were so fucking sweet and nice. And also, I love that movie so much.
It's a great movie.
Yeah. Just saw Julianna Moore.
Oh, no way.
A month ago, she came to the very last performance of Twelfth Night that I did at Shakespeare in the Park. The very last performance that she came backstage. No one ever comes backstage, but somehow she found her way backstage. And I haven't seen her. I've seen her a handful of times in my career. She was with Leo Schreiber. I don't know why. They must be friends. And then Zoran, Madame.
Oh, wow.
The new mayor of New York.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
It was, like, the craziest. She wasn't with him, but he came back separately, and it was like, absolute chaos.
Josh Hutcherson
So I sent her an email because I happened to have her email.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
I was like, I am so sorry.
Josh Hutcherson
I didn't, like, take in more that you were there, but so many things were happening.
That's a lot to take in.
But yeah. Yeah, that's funny.
A lot. Yeah. Julian, that. I mean, kids are all right. Like, that was a really special movie. It was a funny story about that movie. Is that so, like, we. We made the movie and, like, obviously, it's. The cast is insane. So good. Lisa Cholodinko directing. And we take. We print at Sundance, and we're at the theater. Like, the big Is the Eckler, the Eck. Whatever the E. Theater is.
Yeah.
And we were there, and the movie starts up, and, like, in the first five minutes or so, people are laughing a ton. And I'm like, oh, my God, they're laughing.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
They're laughing.
Josh Hutcherson
This is a fucking disaster.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
They're laughing.
Josh Hutcherson
And so I suffer through the entire movie because everyone's laughing. They think it's hilarious and, like, into it. And afterwards, I'm with Lisa, and I'm.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Like.
Josh Hutcherson
I don't know. I don't know what everyone was laughing at. How do you feel? She goes, babe, it's a comedy. And I was like, it's a comedy. She's like, yeah. I was like, no one told me.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
No one told me.
Josh Hutcherson
And she's like, I. No one should have told you.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
You were amazing.
Josh Hutcherson
It was perfect because you didn't. You weren't trying to do something.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
And I was like.
Josh Hutcherson
I was like, this is hard hitting. It's like lesbian family.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Who's the.
Josh Hutcherson
Like, it's like, this is like drama, man. No, it's like a yes but no.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
You know what I mean? Yeah, but like feeling of it because.
Josh Hutcherson
I'm very light hearted.
Well, not me. Me playing laser was like, I am. This is serious shit.
Yeah, that's so funny.
But that movie is special. And that's one like. I don't know for me too. It was like I was. I was 16 years old. We shot it mostly in Venice and.
Venice, California.
Venice, California. And I would. I drove my motorcycle to work a bunch. I was 16 driving a motorcycle to work. And I remember like, you must have.
Just gotten your like driver's.
Yeah. Like, I don't know if it's fully legal, but I was definitely driving a motorcycle.
Where we were living. You were living in.
I was living. Yeah, I was in Sherman Oaks.
That's a long.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Okay, That's a long drive.
Josh Hutcherson
No, I'm sorry. I was driving a Vespa. I didn't have it. I didn't have my Harley yet. I was driving a Vespa to work because I got my Harley when I was 18. So I was driving a Vespa, which.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Is the free one. No, you weren't.
Josh Hutcherson
I was driving a little 300cc Vespa on the 405 up and over.
Like.
That'S not allowed on the highway, is it?
Yes, it is.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Interesting.
Josh Hutcherson
If it's 300cc's or higher, it is freeway legal. I would have that thing pin max. I was coming home and like in the evenings on the 405, I would tuck in behind it and have the throttle fully pinned. I don't. I'm lucky to be here and have full body function like crazy.
What color was the Vespa?
It was a deep blue.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Nice.
Josh Hutcherson
Yeah, I love that.
I have a deep fantasy about Vespas. I have a. I have a. An electric bike that I ride around.
Oh, those are great.
My hilly neighborhood that I'm like, this is the closest I'm ever going to get to a scooter or a Vespa. But I cannot believe you went on at age 16 on the 405 on a Vespa.
Yeah. Pretty. Pretty crazy confidence. Blind confidence. Yeah. Yeah. Poorly informed confidence. Yes. Confident. I was.
That is amazing.
But that was such a fun. That shoot was incredible. Yeah.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
One of the interesting things about Josh is that he splits his time between Los Angeles and Madrid. His longtime partner is Spanish, so we related to each other on juggling long distance relationships. And he told me what he loves about living in the two very different c. Personally, I'm jealous.
Josh Hutcherson
Like the long distance things, if we're both working in different countries and everything, it just kind of gives each other the space to grow independently. And then it's kind of exciting because you get to re. Know each other from this new thing. I don't know, it's.
I. I was away from Justin for. I mean, I would see him. Obviously we weren't away this entire time, but I was working a lot this past summer and I don't know, I feel like.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
I don't think it would have worked.
Josh Hutcherson
At the beginning for sure. Like, I think we needed to be around each other as much as possible just to like develop that. That foundation.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Now that we've been together, we will have been married. We're coming up on our 13th wedding anniversary together 15, 16 years. You know that that space feels so, I don't know, necessary.
I guess it feels necessary. And to me it's just exciting because obviously we're FaceTiming, we're talking all the time. You find ways to like, be connected.
Yeah.
But just being with someone in the same room, in the same space together and just like cohabitating, it's a different. Different dynamic. And so I don't. We spend that time apart. When you get back together, it's kind of like, oh, okay, yeah. Who are we now?
What's the vibe relationship with la?
You know, it's. It's similar to mine over the years. It's a love hate. Yeah, it's. I think it's. It's hard for me, like going to Spain opened up my eyes to so much and like friendships and family and like this very communal openness that I think LA is challenging sometimes being European and coming here because. Can't get around anywhere. If you don't drive, you're. What do you do? You're Ubering everywhere. There's traffic all the time. Nothing's walkable. Like a very. It's very hard to be walkable.
That's why you moved to this area, because it's like a little walk.
Exactly. So I think it is challenging and I think it's A city where also too, like, we just, we haven't spent that much time here. You know, it's kind of like come for like a month and then we're going to Spain or we're both working. So it's. We never really have settled into like a routine here where you feel like, oh, I've got my yoga class that I go to three times a week. I've got like my. And you kind of like start to build your little work. Exactly. Yeah. So it always feels, I don't know, it's a challenging city. But I think that one thing that we both have been leaning into recently is in a way like enjoying the isolation here. Because in Madrid you live in the streets. Like you're always in a social environment. I think LA is a city where you oftentimes are home alone or just you and your partner or, you know. Yeah. In your car. Totally. And so it gives time to like, slow things down. You can be more introspective and you can work on your own, like developing your own art and not just be like plans, go social all the time. You can just like slow things down in a way that in Madrid you just can't.
It's.
It's so non stop in a great way.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Josh tells me a story about how his new HBO Max series, I Love la, put some life plans on hold. Okay, be right back.
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Josh Hutcherson
Tell me again about the girl who created I Love la. Rachel.
Rachel Sennett?
Yeah, Rachel Sennett.
Yeah, yeah.
She created it, stars in it, and also wrote it.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Right.
Josh Hutcherson
Did you know her before this, or.
I mean, I know of her work, and I think she's, like, so, so funny. Brilliant writer, great actress, really unique and edgy and funny and, like, just goes for it, which I love.
But. But, yeah, no, so I didn't. I didn't know her before this came around. And I actually had just. Because me and Claudia, like, split time between LA and Madrid, we'd always kind of dreamed about moving to New York or trying it out. See how that works. And so we spent, like, months trying to find an apartment. Found an apartment, leased it for a year in Brooklyn.
I knew you were gonna be in Brooklyn.
Yeah, of course. Come on, Silver Lake. It's a Brooklyn man. Like, what do you think? That's right. And.
And so we're so excited. We're like, okay, we're starting this, like, new chapter. It's so exciting. We always wanted to live in New York and try this out. My mom, who lives in Montana, she. Montana whitefish.
Okay. Northern.
Northern. Oh, no way. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Montana's incredible. But whenever I'm gone for long periods of time, I take my dog to my mom's house in Montana. She's got her dogs, like, property and stuff, so it's a great spot. And the plan was that my mom was going to be driving the dogs from Montana to New York. So me and CL Were in Madrid. We land in New York with our friend Alex. And in the car, driving to Brooklyn to go to, like, start our new lives in Brooklyn. Basically, I had friends renting out my house in la, and my agent calls and is like, hey, how do you feel about going back to the airport right now? Because Rachel, this Rachel show's like, come back around. Cause it kind of was. It was in my world. And then it went away and then it came back and I was like, shit. I was like, I am dying to do this show. But, like, I just moved to New York City. I rented an apartment for a year. I put a down payment on and paid first month's rent. And that's not cheap at all.
But I gotta figure this out. So I had a zoom with Rachel. We hit it off right away. Really vibed on like, what the. What Dylan, my character could be like, and kind of ideas for how he can sort of develop and grow throughout the season and stuff. And then they told me that she wanted me to do it. And so I got out of the lease in New York.
Wow.
Came back to LA and me. And it was actually really nice as me and Cloud were here in LA together with the dogs while I was here shooting. So it was a beautiful, beautiful time in the neighborhood. So, yeah. My New York dreams have been put on pause.
It's always there for you.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
It felt like the moment, but I.
Josh Hutcherson
Also discovered, like, if you are wanting something, oh, just. Just make a big life, move somewhere else or try to move somewhere else and just not. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
No, absolutely. I need to plan a vacation soon because I need a nice job. Yeah, great. That's.
Make sure you plan like.
An expensive. Yeah. Non refundable, expensive vacation. Do that because then you'll get a good job. That's the trick. Yeah.
Wow.
And that advice is foolproof.
Yeah, it really is.
Yeah.
And there's something to, you know, having something that is so successful and so widely known. I certainly recognize this from Modern Family and being on the show for 11 years, you know, people see you as one thing.
Absolutely.
And you know, you could have. You obviously had many years of working as characters other than PETA and like, you know, all of a sudden it's like that's what they see you as. You know, you feel like you've been Turn into a mold of a person that you can't escape from.
Absolutely.
And I, you know, and it's also.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Very exciting because you're part of this.
Josh Hutcherson
Thing that people are so excited about and it's such a cultural moment, but at the same time, it's, you know, it comes with a price to pay.
It definitely does. It comes with a price to play. I'm like, in multiple ways, you know, and.
I like. I remember Jen and I used to always say, like, what was it? It was like.
Anonymity. Like, losing your anonymity is something that you can't actually understand what it's like until you've lost it. Yeah. Like walking into a restaurant. Like, it's hard to imagine walking into a restaurant and everyone like. Or at least perceived in your own delusional mind, which is also true in many ways. You walk into a restaurant, everyone turns, and they see you, and they instantly know who you are. They instead looking at their phone, looking up and looking like, you know this. You've seen this, and like.
Or they have an opinion of you.
They have an opinion of you. Or they're trying to sneak pictures of you so you feel very. You're, like, always on display.
Yeah.
And which is also why people want to see people fail. And because, like, they. They. They think that they know them, and they put them in this box and they want to destroy. I don't know. It's. It's.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
It's.
Josh Hutcherson
It's dark in that way, you know, and it's a thing that, like, you know, I'm. I'm not gonna sit here and be like, oh, it's so hard being a famous person. Like, there's amazing perks and privileges, and, like, to be in this position that any of us are. Have found success in that way is, like, incredible and so beyond.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
It's just something that I don't think.
Josh Hutcherson
I can't imagine anyone who would want that, even if you want the greatest success in your career. I think about that couple at the Coldplay concert.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Like, they lost their anonymity completely.
Josh Hutcherson
And, like, they did not want that.
They didn't gain anything from it either. You know what? I. There was no perks there.
No perks.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
But, you know, it's sort of like. But that's sort of like what it feels like all of a sudden.
Josh Hutcherson
Like, the entire world or whoever's interested in you at that moment has access to you, and it's. It's something I can't imagine anyone's like. Yeah, that sounds fun.
No, I mean, there are definitely people who want fame.
Yeah, absolutely.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
But they don't necessarily realize that they're.
Josh Hutcherson
They don't know what that comes with, you know? And so, yeah, it is. It is. It's intense. Yeah, it's intense for sure.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Josh tells me about why directing is on his list. Okay, be right back.
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Josh Hutcherson
I bet you'd be a great director, Josh.
Me? Yeah. I love it. I love it so much. I mean, it's a thing that I love so much and that I respect so much that I keep on kicking it down the road to some other time. It's a thing where, like, I. I'm for sure a perfectionist in so many ways. And I think that, like, I seem to make. Start making stuff because it's not going to be perfect, because it doesn't exist. But it's always that thing of, like, I want to find what the story is. I have some ideas, I have nuggets of things to write, but I. I'm always like, yeah, but no, I'm gonna do this. Yeah, but not. You know what I mean? I keep on, like, evading it, but I'm. When that day comes, I will be ready. And I'm part of that, I'm sure, is from a.
Respect. From it as well. Like, you want to do it.
Right.
But I just think. Yeah, I mean, I, I do look at Banks as, like, Elizabeth Banks is like, such an inspiration because I also want to direct.
Yeah.
And I talk to her often about this and, you know, her advice is always just, like, dive in and, like, know that you're not gonna do everything perfectly. And the thing is, as a. Because I'm a perfectionist too, and she reminds me of this and I already know it, but it's nice to hear her say it. You know, when we're putting something together, whether it be a play or a movie or a TV show, there's all these. All these departments that are there to, like, do what they do best. And like, Liz was just like, you have to remind yourself that, you know, you don't have to know about the lighting. You don't have to know about all these things. Like, these people are here to support you and, like, you do what you do well and with confidence, and you're gonna be fine.
And.
Yeah, I feel like. I guess I look at directors as, like, having so much knowledge about everything.
Yeah. I don't know, though. You've also. I know I have. I work with some directors.
You're like, yeah, how are you leading this thing?
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Right. Well, that's what I'm like, well, then.
Josh Hutcherson
I should absolutely be doing this.
I know. I do the same thing because I worked with so many directors where I'm like, you walk on water. You're incredible. I don't know how you are so brilliant. I've also worked with a handful that I'm like, they gave you $30 million to make this.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Like, you. Like, it's.
Josh Hutcherson
Whoa. So I think that we can chill out a bit.
Yeah, I agree that way.
And I think so much of it is surrounding yourself with those. That's one of the things I love so much about being on sets and that I have since I was a kid was the collaborative thing and, like, getting to see all these different people who are specialized in their fields coming together under the conductor of the director to, like, bring this weird art project into existence.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
During my conversation with Josh, we got on the topic of raves.
Josh Hutcherson
Yeah.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Let me just say I'm not well versed on this topic, Justin.
Josh Hutcherson
In this area, they would do a sunrise rave.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Oh, wow.
Josh Hutcherson
In the morning. And Justin went once.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Do you remember? Yeah.
Josh Hutcherson
Daybreak. It was called Daybreak. And I have a few friends who went. And I was like, that's not my thing. I'm not a morning person to begin with. But also then just, like, a day.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
I'm not a.
Josh Hutcherson
Like, I don't want to go to Coachella. I don't want to. Although I have any Coachella. I don't want to be a Burning Man. The word rave just alone is like, that's. That's not for me. But it's.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
It's.
Josh Hutcherson
It was a morning rave party.
I've been at raves that go same. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The one that starts. One that starts in the morning, you set your alarm, wake up and go to a rave.
That's like, in Berlin, when you go to Berghain.
Yes.
It's like, you go like, 10am on Sunday is a great time to arrive.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
And you're like, huh?
Josh Hutcherson
Yes. We were in Berlin and we toyed with the idea of going there, but I. We didn't do it. Have you been.
I'VE never been into Berghein. I've been to some other spots in Berlin.
Yeah.
Because we shot, we shot Hunger Games there the last, we were there for like a month on the last part of like Mockingjay Part 2, but never got to Bergheim.
Yeah, I don't think it's for me.
I don't know. You never know to your. I mean, maybe you do know. Maybe, you know, you know, maybe you're just like, it's.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
I just know it's huge.
Josh Hutcherson
And there's different floors with different things, different experiences. And I just feel like I'd stumble upon the wrong floor and be like, how do I get off this floor?
Just walk out.
Where's, where's.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
I need to, I need home goods.
Josh Hutcherson
I'm embedding in our home goods, you know.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Sleep.
Josh Hutcherson
Yeah, I like a dance party.
Jesse Tyler Ferguson
So that was a little more from my chat with Josh Hutcherson. And if you haven't heard our full conversation yet, make sure to check it out on Dinners On Me. This episode of Dinners On Me was recorded at Night Market Song in Silver Lake, California. Next week on Dinners On Me. You know her from her scene stealing performances in films, Crooklyn and 12 Years a Slave and TV shows like True Blood and the Practice. She's now starring in the Apple TV series the Last Frontier. It's Alfre Woodard. We'll get into her growing up in the south, her 42 year long marriage with actor and comic Roderick Spencer and get into some behind the scenes of details on the Last Frontier.
Dinners on Me is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and a kid named Beckett Productions. It's hosted by me, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's executive produced by me and Jonathan Hirsch. Our showrunner is Joanna Clay. Our associate producer is Alyssa Midcalf. Sam Baer engineered this episode, Hansdale. She composed our theme music. Our head of production is Sammy Allison. Special thanks to Tameka Balance Kolasny and Justin Makita. I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Join me next week.
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In this “Side Dish” episode, Jesse Tyler Ferguson sits down with actor Josh Hutcherson for a lively, candid catch-up that dives deeper into their previous conversation. Over delicious food at Night Market Song in Silver Lake, the two longtime friends share stories about their careers, relationships, and what it’s like to navigate the world of celebrity. Their chat is filled with humor and vulnerability as they reminisce about their early days, talk about the challenges and perks of fame, discuss long-distance love, bike adventures, and artistic ambitions.
[03:05 – 07:19]
The two recall meeting at the SAG Awards when Josh was nominated for “The Kids Are All Right.”
Jesse shares a recent backstage encounter with Julianne Moore after a Shakespeare in the Park performance, adding a humorous note about the chaos of backstage meetings.
Josh recalls the movie’s Sundance premiere, hilariously misunderstanding its tone:
Notable Quote:
“So I suffer through the entire movie because everyone's laughing. They think it's hilarious … Afterwards, I’m with Lisa [Cholodenko, the director], and I’m like, I don’t know what everyone was laughing at … she goes, ‘Babe, it’s a comedy.’ And I was like, ‘It’s a comedy?’ I was like, ‘No one told me!’”
— Josh Hutcherson [04:45]
Josh reminisces about filming the movie at 16, commuting on a Vespa on L.A. freeways:
Notable Quote:
“I don’t know if it’s fully legal, but I was definitely driving a motorcycle … I’m lucky to be here and have full body function—like, crazy.”
— Josh Hutcherson [06:13]
[07:19 – 10:30]
Josh splits time between Los Angeles and Madrid, his partner Claudia’s home city.
They discuss the challenges—and surprising benefits—of long-distance relationships, and how time apart helps each person grow independently.
Jesse relates, sharing about his own marriage and how relationship needs change:
Notable Quote:
“At the beginning for sure … we needed to be around each other as much as possible just to, like, develop that foundation… Now, that space feels so, I don’t know, necessary.”
— Jesse Tyler Ferguson [08:02]
Josh compares the communal culture of Madrid with LA's more isolating lifestyle:
Notable Quote:
“In Madrid, you live in the streets. You’re always in a social environment. LA is a city where … you’re oftentimes home alone or just you and your partner… it gives time to slow things down, be more introspective, and work on your own art.”
— Josh Hutcherson [09:24]
[12:46 – 15:29]
Hutcherson recounts how landing the HBO Max series “I Love LA” (created by and starring Rachel Sennott) forced him to pause his plans for a new life in Brooklyn.
He shares the unpredictable nature of acting work:
Notable Quote:
“We were so excited … starting this new chapter … and my agent calls and is like, ‘Hey, how do you feel about going back to the airport right now?’ Because the Rachel show’s come back around.”
— Josh Hutcherson [13:57]
He humorously concludes that “if you want a job, just make a big, expensive, non-refundable life move.”
[15:59 – 18:40]
Both actors reflect on being typecast in iconic roles (Modern Family’s Mitchell and Hunger Games’ Peeta), and the impact on identity.
Discussion about losing anonymity in public, especially in the “age of the internet.”
“Losing your anonymity is something you can’t actually understand … until you’ve lost it.”
— Josh Hutcherson [16:53]
Josh comments on the dark side of fame, how the public both admires and wants to watch celebrities fail:
Notable Quote:
“You walk into a restaurant and everyone turns … or at least, perceived in your own delusional mind, which is also true in many ways.”
— Josh Hutcherson [16:46]
They agree fame can be thrilling but also “comes with a price to pay.”
[22:23 – 25:00]
Jesse and Josh bond over their ambitions to direct and their fears of not being “good enough.”
Both reference advice from Elizabeth Banks, who encourages just jumping in and trusting your team.
Notable Quote:
“It’s a thing I love so much, and respect so much, that I keep on kicking it down the road … I want to find what the story is. I have some ideas, I have nuggets of things to write, but I’m always like, ‘Yeah, but no, I’m gonna do this.’”
— Josh Hutcherson [22:28]
“There’s all these departments that are there to do what they do best. … You don’t have to know about the lighting. … You do what you do well, and with confidence, and you’ll be fine.”
— Jesse Tyler Ferguson, paraphrasing Elizabeth Banks [23:36]
[25:00 – 26:47]
The episode closes with a funny exchange about rave and nightclub culture, especially sunrise raves in L.A. and Berlin’s legendary Berghain club.
Jesse playfully admits he’s entirely out of place at raves and jokes about just wanting to go home:
Memorable Moment:
“I just feel like I’d stumble upon the wrong floor and be like, ‘How do I get off this floor?’”
— Jesse Tyler Ferguson [26:27]
The episode is warm, witty, and irreverent, with both Jesse and Josh poking fun at themselves and openly sharing insecurities and joys. Their mutual respect and genuine friendship shine through, making the candid moments especially resonant for listeners.
This “Side Dish” episode takes listeners deeper into Josh Hutcherson’s world—his creative anxieties, love life across continents, and hilarious high-speed Vespa adventures—while exploring the realities of celebrity, evolution of relationships, and artistic ambition. Both lighthearted and thoughtful, it’s a delightful listen for fans of honest, engaging conversation at the dinner table.