Teri Hatcher — on being a ‘Bake Off’ and ‘Chopped’ star, rewatching ‘Desperate Housewives,’ and trying stand-up

Summary

"Dinner’s on Me with Jesse Tyler Ferguson"

Episode: Teri Hatcher — on being a ‘Bake Off’ and ‘Chopped’ Star, Rewatching ‘Desperate Housewives,’ and Trying Stand-Up

Release Date: October 28, 2025
Podcast Host: Jesse Tyler Ferguson
Guest: Teri Hatcher
Setting: Aunt Yvette’s Kitchen, Eagle Rock, Los Angeles (Ethiopian restaurant)

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Overview

In this lively, candid episode, Jesse Tyler Ferguson welcomes Teri Hatcher for a meal at Aunt Yvette’s Kitchen, an intimate Ethiopian spot in LA. Their wide-ranging conversation covers Teri’s celebrity turns on “The Great British Bake Off” and “Chopped,” her fresh perspective while co-hosting a “Desperate Housewives” rewatch podcast, adventures in stand-up comedy, and navigating parenthood, career, and aging in Hollywood.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Food, Family, and Cooking Shows

• Food as Love Language: Teri explains how cooking is central to her personal life and family traditions (17:10).
  • "Food is how I’ve always shown love to people in my life." – Teri Hatcher [17:12]
• Culinary Education: Teri shares her experience in culinary school—an intensive 8–3, five-days-a-week, nine-month program—and encourages Jesse to pursue his dream of attending (17:05).
• Reality Cooking Competition Appearances:
  • Great British Bake Off: Teri gushes about joining as one of the first American celebrities, contrasting her experience with Jesse’s on the American version (06:09).
    • “I get to be in THE tent? Like, are you kidding me? I literally lost my mind.” – Teri Hatcher [06:35]
    • Both describe the thrill and stress, including classic “scream at the oven” moments:
      “Did you have your moment on the floor where you were screaming ‘bake’ at the oven?” – Teri Hatcher [10:44]
  • Chopped: She recalls stressful baskets (can of reindeer pâté, pine liqueur) and winning for charity. She recounts caramel mishaps judged on-air (07:52, 08:44).

2. “Desperately Devoted” — The “Desperate Housewives” Rewatch Podcast

• Podcast Concept: Teri hosts with her real-life daughter Emerson (watching for the first time) and on-screen daughter Andrea Bowen.
  • “Isn’t that crazy? … I feel like it really does allow us to have different perspectives on life.” – Teri Hatcher [18:39]
• Multigenerational Perspectives: They use the show as a springboard for broader life discussions—relationships, gender roles, aging (19:26).
  • “[Emerson’s] like, heteronormative and things like that… She has her point of view from a 28-year-old writer…” – Teri Hatcher [19:26]
• Nostalgia and Comfort-Watching:
  Teri explains why audiences return to old shows for comfort—it’s calming and feels “like a love letter” to the past. She confesses that, despite starring as Susan, she often watches the series as a genuine fan (20:44).
  • “In a way, rewatching it is like watching a show I wasn’t in.” – Teri Hatcher [20:44]
• Behind the Scenes: Teri discusses parenting and career balance, memories from Emerson’s on-set visits, and maintaining a grounded home life despite fame (22:46).

3. Breaking into the Industry & Early Career

• The Love Boat “Mermaid” Audition:
  • Teri landed a spot almost accidentally by accompanying a friend and ended up one of only eight chosen from across the U.S. (29:11).
    • “The odds of me getting this job are just ridiculous.” – Teri Hatcher [29:11]
• Scrappy Early Years:
  • Remained cautious even after film/TV roles, continuing to wait tables until her “Lois & Clark” breakthrough (30:22):
    • “It really wasn’t until Lois and Clark that I was like, okay, I think I’m having a career.” – Teri Hatcher [30:58]
  • Her modest upbringing shaped her anxiety about money and stability in an unpredictable industry (31:21).

4. Navigating Aging & Identity in Hollywood

• Transitioning Public Image: Teri embraces aging without cosmetic intervention, and how this might open new character opportunities as Hollywood slowly shifts (32:53, 34:07).
  • “It’s taken this amount of time to age into what might be a new identity that might allow me to work in things people wouldn’t have thought of me for before.” – Teri Hatcher [33:53]
• ‘You can’t win’ Attitude Toward Aging: Discusses cultural double-standards for women, referencing Brooke Shields and the damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t reality (34:07).

5. Stand-Up Comedy and Storytelling

• Entering Stand-Up:
  • Teri finds empowerment in stand-up and solo storytelling as accessible artistic spaces for older women (36:15).
    • “Nobody can stop you from getting on stage and telling your story.” – Teri Hatcher [35:13]
  • Shares a formative story (and now a comedy bit) about a physician telling her she had a “totally average vagina,” which became a hit on “Funny Women of a Certain Age” (36:54).
    • “He backed away from my body, and he looked at me and said, ‘Teri, you have a totally average vagina.’” – Teri Hatcher [37:30]
• Processing Fear and Failure:
  • Teri describes her evolving attitude toward perfection, failure, and quieting her inner critic, especially as she matures and steps out of her comfort zone (39:19, 41:09).
    • “It’s not about being happy… or protecting yourself from sadness. It’s all an experience… and that sort of takes away the failure lens.” – Teri Hatcher [40:41]

6. The Sandwich Generation & Parenting Wisdom

• Caregiving While Parenting:
  • Teri discusses her social media “Sandwich Series,” a community for people navigating simultaneous caregiving for aging parents and adult children (41:43).
  • Explains the emotional challenge: “You finally get to the point where you think, and now I can make my life about me… Then your parents get sick, then your children move back…” [42:52]
• Realistic Parenting:
  • Advocates for vulnerability in front of children and dismantling the myth of perfect parenthood (43:51).
    • “Parenting isn’t a sprint, it’s a marathon. And there’s so much room for forgiveness.” – Teri Hatcher [43:51]
  • Encourages parents to ask for help and model “enoughness” for their kids.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On getting the “Bake Off” call:
  “The Great British Bake Off. And I was like, YES!” – Teri Hatcher [06:34]
• On her daughter's perspective of “Desperate Housewives”:
  “She’s like, heteronormative and things like that. She has her point of view from a 28-year-old writer…” [19:26]
• On aging on-screen:
  “It’s taken this amount of time to age into what might potentially be a new identity… I can kind of feel it—it’s getting closer.” [33:53]
• On stand-up:
  “I can have 30 people in a bar and stand up and say things into a microphone… It’s actually a great comfort.” [36:15]
• On parenting and self-compassion:
  “In our strive to be perfect, we’re actually making a mistake.” [45:14]

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Important Timestamps

• 05:49 – Bake Off casting & reaction.
• 07:52 – “Chopped” experience, weirdest ingredients.
• 17:02–18:13 – Culinary school, food as a life throughline.
• 18:39–22:17 – Details of “Desperately Devoted” podcast; effect on family.
• 29:11 – Story of becoming a “Love Boat” Mermaid.
• 32:53–34:46 – Reality of aging as a woman in Hollywood.
• 35:13–39:19 – Stand-up comedy, “average vagina” story.
• 41:43–45:14 – Sandwich generation, parenting, and mental health.

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Tone & Atmosphere

The episode radiates warmth, self-reflection, and thoughtful humor, closely matching the informality and vulnerability of sharing a meal with friends. Both Jesse and Teri blend candor about the entertainment industry with deeply relatable insights on family, food, mental health, and life transitions.

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For New Listeners

This episode serves up plenty for OG “Desperate Housewives” fans and those interested in food, show business, or selfgrowth at any stage of life. Teri’s humor and wisdom, mixed with Jesse’s easy rapport, make it a standout for anyone seeking honest, inspiring, and refreshingly unfiltered conversation over dinner.

Transcript

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

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[Teri Hatcher]

And so he backed away, you know, from my body and he looked at me and he went, terri, you have a totally average vagina.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

This is Dinner's on me. And I'm your host, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Teri Hatcher. She's someone I've been watching on my television for so long. I am a devoted Desperate Housewives fan. I also loved Lois and Clark, where she was my first Lois Lane. I got to meet Terry about a year and a half ago when we worked on the pilot of a game show, a culinary game show that never got picked up. But I had a wonderful time getting to know her over the week. We got to work together, and I'm so thrilled that she has agreed to come on to. To our pod and talk about her pod. You know, pod people talking about their pods. I'm here at Aunt Yvette's kitchen in Eagle Rock waiting for Terry Hatcher. This place is such a gem. It's cozy, it's casual. It's known for incredible Ethiopian food. The injera, that spongy flatbread used to scoop up dishes. The rich, spicy chicken stew known as dorawat. The vegan somme plate. The crispy trout. It's the kind of food that makes you want to linger and share everything on the table. And we're extra lucky today. The owners, Russell and Yvette, actually opened up just for us. Feeling very special right now. Now, Terry's a bit of a foodie, so I thought this would be the perfect spot to bring her bold flavors, lots of sharing, and that warm, welcoming energy that feels like home. And speaking of home, I'm excited for her to get here so I can talk about a certain home on Wisteria la. How about that for a transition? Okay, let's get to the conversation.

[Teri Hatcher]

Thanks for having me.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, my gosh. I'm thrilled you said yes.

[Teri Hatcher]

I'm excited to be here.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I mean, it was kind of a no brainer that you were gonna be here at some point. But also, I'm gonna put my glasses on too. Although these are more for reading, so I'm gonna wait till my menu comes.

[Teri Hatcher]

Well, I have to. I mean, mine are progressives, but, like, if I don't wear them, I can't see the food. I used to always tell my daughter, read all the books that you want to read before you turn 40. Because after it's no fuck, it's just like. I mean, I do still read. I have a book club and I do love reading. Actual reading, not audio reading. Hi.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Hi.

[Teri Hatcher]

Good.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Thank you. I'm Yvette.

[Teri Hatcher]

How are you guys doing today?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So good.

[Teri Hatcher]

Great. We're so excited, very excited about this meal. I'm glad you Are. Yeah.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So we'd like to start off by offering you some waters.

[Teri Hatcher]

Okay.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So we have a couple selections. We have a flat sparkling, and then we have a essential on Yvette's water. It's fresh lime, ginger, and a little star anise. Kind of leads you into the meal.

[Teri Hatcher]

I should probably have that.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I mean, that sounds great.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Can we do that?

[Teri Hatcher]

Yes.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I like pretty water. I want my water to drink.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

It's a pretty water. Be right back.

[Teri Hatcher]

Thank you, too.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Well, notice we share something in common and that we both were part of a game show or. I don't know if I call it a game show. It's not a game show. It's a competition show of the Great American Baking Show.

[Teri Hatcher]

I was actually on the bakery.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You did British Bake Off?

[Teri Hatcher]

I got to actually say the words bake off, because mine. Never mine. I was. Okay, so I was one of.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

How did that happen?

[Teri Hatcher]

So I was one of the very first celebrities, certainly the first American celebrity, because when that show first came out, I'm the great.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You did the Great British Bake Off?

[Teri Hatcher]

Yes, yes, yes. And when that show first came out, I was obsessed.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Me, too.

[Teri Hatcher]

And I get this call, but not everybody was watching it yet. I mean, now it's gigantic. You know, I get this call from my publicist who says. Starts the sentence this way. You're probably not gonna wanna do this, but you just got offered this show. And he's kind of like, the Great British Bake Off. And I was like, yes.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[Teri Hatcher]

What?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What?

[Teri Hatcher]

I get to be in the tent. Like, are you kidding me? I mean, I literally lost my mind.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, totally.

[Teri Hatcher]

No, no, just quickly.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So we prepared a nice little meal for you today. We do a wonderful ribeye.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Ethiopian style with ribeye tips. And we're also gonna do a vegan platter and fish, which is extraordinary. We're kind of famous for that.

[Teri Hatcher]

Is it the trout?

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Yes, the trout.

[Teri Hatcher]

I saw that on the menu. I was very excited about that.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So it's from a really, really pristine farm up in Idaho, so I think you're gonna really enjoy it.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, great. Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Thank you so much.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, my gosh.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Enjoy.

[Teri Hatcher]

So anyways, I don't know. Did you have the experience when you, like, were in the white tent? Did you just, like, lose your mind?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Lost my mind.

[Teri Hatcher]

I mean, I can't believe it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Same thing, though. I mean, it was the easiest. Yes. First of all, when they asked me, I was like, oh, 1000%. Although my PR team are also all, like, big fans of It. So they're like, you're absolutely gonna say yes to it.

[Teri Hatcher]

I think I was early. I mean, I think I just didn't know what it was yet. And I was like, oh, yeah, I know what it is.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

But I'm actually really impressed that you said yes to it, because I have been asked to do other cooking competition shows, and I have said no, even though I'm very good in the kitchen and I have a cookbook and, like. But I did not want to. I didn't want to fail on tv.

[Teri Hatcher]

I did Chopped.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You were a contestant on Chopped?

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah, for charity. But I won still. But, yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What were your ingredients? Do you remember?

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, my God. Very weird. Like, they didn't pull any punches just because we were celebrities. I think one. I think the appetizer basket was. I remember there was a can of reindeer pate.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Jesus Christ.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. And then in the second round, I know we had really big steaks. And in the third round, I think there was, like, dried persimmons and maybe some weird pine liqueur or something. So the first round I did, like, a version of a crab cake with all the things and put it on a little salad. And the second round I did a steak and, like, broccoli potato thing. And the third round I made ice cream and, like, a little piece of.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Sounds great.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. You know, I mean, I forgot to put fat in my caramel, so it completely turned into candy.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

She's like.

[Teri Hatcher]

The judge is, like, pounding it with a fork. That show. That's insane.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That seems insane to me.

[Teri Hatcher]

That's insane. That is like, when you win, it's like starting to get on a rollercoaster at six o' clock in the morning that you don't want to get on over and over and over until 10 o' clock at night. That's what it's like. It was. It was. It's pretty brutal.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I want to back up a little bit more about the Great British Bake Off.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Did you have a feeling when it was happening that you had this in the bag? You had a feeling you had a good shot?

[Teri Hatcher]

I mean, I just am. I'm a pretty good cook, and I was also pretty prepared, but it wasn't really about that, you know?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, I know. But also, you want that platter? You want the cake platter?

[Teri Hatcher]

I didn't get a. I got an apron that said Star Baker, which I almost wore today. No, I didn't.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I got a cake platter.

[Teri Hatcher]

You got a cake platter? No, they weren't doing cake platters. They were just doing aprons that said Starbaker.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I got a cake platter that a local artist made. And so it's like a one of a kind thing. And it's really beautiful. It's, you know, it's ceramic. And they said, you know, we'll take this for you and ship it to you. And I was like, that's great. Thank you. Because I was traveling around some more and I had other places to go. And about three weeks later, I get this box and it's. I could already tell. I'm like, not well wrapped.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, no.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And I feel like it's just, like, misshapen. And I'm like, oh, no. And I. Chris, unwrap it. It's totally cracked.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And I called. I was like, hey, listen, you gotta make me a new one. They're like, it's a one of a kind. I was like, you gotta call the artist and have them do a new one. I was like, I'm getting my cake platter. So. And I glued together my original one because I was like, I'm still gonna keep my original one, but I also want one that, like, isn't cracked. So I have two.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, that's cute.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

But it's a memory that's worth it, I think. If you are a fan of this show, then you understand in yourselves what we're talking about.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yes.

[Teri Hatcher]

Like, did you have your moment on the floor where you were screaming bake at the oven?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I did. Sit on the floor.

[Teri Hatcher]

Cause I did. I was like, bake, bake.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Now for a quick break, but don't go away. When we come back, Terri tells me about co hosting her new Desperate Housewives Rewatch podcast. Desperately devoted with her real life daughter and on screen daughter. Okay, be right back. I just wrapped up Shakespeare in the park in New York City. And right after that, I hopped over to Italy for a week to celebrate a dear friend's 50th birthday. And it was absolutely incredible. I got to see Siena for the first time. Not Sienna Miller. Siena, the beautiful town in the wine region of Italy. It was absolutely gorgeous. We spent some days in Florence. I had tons of pasta, cheese, prosciutt. I actually, I'm good on melon and prosciutto for, like, another six months. But while I was gone, I started thinking, what if my home could have been hosting guests at the same time? That's exactly where Airbnb's co host network comes in. A local co host can step in and handle everything. Creating your listing, managing reservations, guest communication Even being there in person if needed. So while you're off celebrating working or just, you know, taking a little bit of time for yourself, your place is still welcoming guests and you don't have to stress about a thing. So if you've ever, ever thought about hosting but weren't sure how to start, find a co [e-mail] host you know, one of my favorite parts about this show is how much it reminds me of the little ways people show up for each other. A few years ago, I was starting rehearsal for a new play, and a friend surprised me by sending money for my lunch on the first day. It was such a small gesture, but it made me feel so supported, like, hey, I've got you. That's what I love about Zelle. Whether it's a big moment or a small one, Zelle makes it easy to send and receive money directly between enrolled bank accounts. So when someone you care about needs it or when you want to make a thoughtful gesture, it's right there. When accounts send money with Zelle, look for Zelle in your banking app or head to zelle.com to learn more. All right. Craving something sweet? I'm always craving something sweet. Boar's Head just launched their new Greek Yogurt Dessert Dip collection, and I have to say, it's become a bit of a hit at my house. There are three flavors, Cinnamon, churro, chocolate, espresso, and key lime. And they're all made with creamy, wholesome Greek yogurt blended with premium dessert ingredients so you get that rich, craveable taste. But they're low in fat, gluten free, and packed with probiotics. Basically indulgence with a little bit of balance built in. As a parent, I can't always go the cake and ice cream route, though Beckett and Sully would certainly love that. Sometimes I have to get creative. I've actually been known to trick them into thinking certain things are dessert. But with these dips, there's no trick. It's the best of both worlds. I've been using them with fruits, pretzels. Sometimes I just eat it by the spoonful and it feels like that kind of treat you actually want. Every day. You'll find the new Boar's Head Greek Yogurt Dessert Dip Collection and the deli alongside your other dips and spreads from Boar's Head. Better snacking, smarter indulgence. Boar's Head, committed to craft since 1905. And we're back with more dinners on me.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Hey guys, it's almost time for your feast. We like to start you off with a little rose water hand washing. And you'll be able to wash hands before we eat. But in our case, in our restaurant, we like to put a little rose water in there to kind of transport you to that part of the country.

[Teri Hatcher]

I love this. Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

This is so special. Thank you. Oh, it smells so good.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, yeah. Wow.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

What?

[Teri Hatcher]

Wow.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Teri Hatcher]

That is really.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So I'm gonna give you just a little explanation because we just do things just a little different. This, of course, is your beautiful trout from Rivern's farm. May I lime it for you?

[Teri Hatcher]

Yes, please. Lime away.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

So the idea is to grab the injera. You see where the little cut marks are? You grab a piece of meat, and then you have three dipping sauces. You have an ahuazi paste, which is like an Ethiopian kind of hot sauce, but for lack of a better description.

[Teri Hatcher]

Okay.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

And then this is senefich, which is, for lack of a better description, Ethiopian mustard, not spicy.

[Teri Hatcher]

Okay. Okay.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Here in my plate, we do things a little different here, too. Ethiopian salad. Beets, tomatoes, jalapeno, and a nice bright tomato dressing. This is Tim and Tim. It's a condiment. It is very spicy and salty. You use it to sort of bolster the flavor of anything you like. Want a little extra kick? You get that. Here you have your shiro, which is a chickpea stew. Very important in our culture during fasting months. This one, I change out every single week. So this week we're doing an portobello tibs, Ethiopian style. Super delicious. Most popular in Ethiopia, a kikalisha ginger turmeric driven misir wat is a Burberry driven slip piece. So that is spicy.

[Teri Hatcher]

Okay.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

And then you have your nice gomen, which is your kale and collard greens. This is a very special guy. This is rib eye. Russell makes this. My husband, he does all the proteins. And this is extraordinary. Ribeye taste.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Extraordinary.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Done medium, just the way you're supposed to eat it and couldn't be more delicious.

[Teri Hatcher]

Wow.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Enjoy, enjoy. And we'll bring you as much endure as you like. Okay. Enjoy that.

[Teri Hatcher]

Thank you.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Gosh, I love it.

[Teri Hatcher]

Totally digging in.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Do it. Okay, so wait. Well, I guess, I mean, I wanted to ask. Cause you have. I mean, going to culinary school for me has been a bucket list item. Like, I want to do it, and I feel like I still. I mean, there's always time to do anything, but, like, I still want to do it, but it takes so much time. Like, you really have to say it's.

[Teri Hatcher]

Like going to college.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. How long was that process?

[Teri Hatcher]

It's like eight to three, five days a week for like nine months.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Wow.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Wow.

[Teri Hatcher]

I don't know. I love it. I mean, I'm sure you feel this way too, but food is how I've always shown love to people in my life. I have huge traditional things. Thanksgiving, Christmas Eve dinner. I used to do a big Easter thing. And even on my podcast, actually that I'm doing, we decided to add just. It's not obviously a food podcast, but we decided to add a little bit of food from each episode that we were inspired about. Like, actually this one that I'm recording later today, the character of Lynette is trying to get her kids to eat Brussels sprouts. And it's a huge fail in the character's life and it, you know, involves a big storyline. So I went and made and filmed myself in my kitchen making the Brussels sprouts that I make for my Thanksgiving every year. And then I'll bring them to the recording studio and my other two co hosts will eat them and we'll talk about them and then we share that with our audience. And so it's just, I have to have food. Food is just, it's a part of everything I do.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Well, I mean, just to. Since you brought it up, you're doing a rewatch podcast of Desperate Housewives called. The podcast is called Desperately Devoted. Is that right? I love the concept because it's you, obviously, and then you are co hosting it with your. The actress who played your daughter on the show. And then also your other, your third co host is your real daughter. My real life daughter is watching it for the first time.

[Teri Hatcher]

Emerson Tennant. Yep. Isn't that crazy?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I mean, it is, it's crazy, but also I'm just so fascinated by, I mean, the show was such a, I mean, cultural moment, obviously, and I really feel like it changed the landscape of TV in a very influential way. I mean, it was such an incredible show and it has all these strong women at the center of it. But like, have you had interesting perspectives from your daughter who's obviously. How old is she now? In her early 20s, right?

[Teri Hatcher]

27, almost 28.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Oh, okay. But you know, she comes from a different era. I mean, she must have an interesting perspective of what that show is.

[Teri Hatcher]

She's like heteronormative and things like that. So yes, I think what's great about it is she has her point of view from a 28 year old writer. Andrea's 35 and just about to give birth to her first child. And then, of course, I'm 60 and single. And I feel like it really does allow us to have different perspectives on life, you know, and so we're using it sort of as a springboard to talk about life, but also to talk about the show and kind of reflect on it in sort of a love letter kind of a way, because it does sort of hold up. It really does. And, you know, you mentioned, like, when you were searching for shows to watch that were comforting, that you'd already watched. There really is something to that. Like, they say there's a science to if something is nostalgic to you and you know what to expect, it's actually calming. Like, as opposed to watching, you know, a new show that you've never seen challenges your stress level in a different way. And I think that's why so many of us are rewatching stuff. Yeah, you know, we keep going back to the same you show Friends, Seinfeld, you know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

And Desperate Housewives. It's so weird, you know, and the truth is, Susan was one fourth of the show. And so in a way, rewatching it, it's like rewatching a show I wasn't in. I don't know if you guys feel that way, because you guys were kind of divided up a little bit with.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Modern Family the same way. I mean, a lot of people say, you know, oh, I don't watch my show. And I think all of us, the entire cast of Modern Family, would always watch the show because we were fans of the other people we were working with, and we were fans of the writing and we were fans of the story. And I really feel like I was in the Best of Both Worlds because I was part of the show. And then also I got to be a fan of the show itself and, like, see the scenes that, yes, I would hear them being read in the table read, but they would change so much.

[Teri Hatcher]

I feel exactly that way. Like, I was in it, but I was also a fan of it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Are you gonna have any of the other cast members come on as guests?

[Teri Hatcher]

Well, we did. So far, we've only watched nine episodes, so we've done nine episode podcast so far. And we had Doug on, Doug Savant, who played Tom, which was Lynette's husband. And that's actually airing this week. And that was great. But primarily, I think it's about the three of us. I mean, that's already a lot of people talking with opinions and really using the show to springboard into getting to talk about what it's like to be human and, you know, be in relationships and alive and all of it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. And I have. I have such a special relationship with Aubrey, who played my daughter on Modern Family. And, I mean, I can only imagine that, you know, going back and looking at this incredibly meaningful moment of your career with, you know, the person who did play your daughter, and then also the person who you were raising during that time who was not necessarily privy to the day to day. Did you have your daughter on set a lot when you were working?

[Teri Hatcher]

I mean, she definitely was. She has memories of that. She has memories of, like, the camera operator always making sure that he had her favorite kind of candy in the candy box.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You know, the episode I listened to, she was talking about that.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. And, like, that's very vivid to her. You know, everybody was always very nice to her when she visited. But, like, I think her recollection is more of a. How much of a mom I was. Like, how much I kept fame and any sort of fanciness of being a celebrity out of our lives. And now, as somebody who's a working screenwriter and, like, has a community that she's a part of, you know, I think she kind of looks at me like, wow, mom, how did you do all of that? You know, like, that was a lot of balls to be juggling at the same time. And it definitely was. I mean, certain things suffered, for sure, but not her and not our relationship. So that was always my priority.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

And Andrea, you know, she. I don't know if I even deserve it, but, like, they. You know, she credits me and her mom, Peggy, does, also, with sort of being like a second mom who really championed her confidence. And at a time like 13, for a girl, that's a rough time. That's an awkward, weird time to go through. And the fact that she is one of the kindest, you know, just, like, thoughtful, reasonable, smart. I don't know her family. Her family's amazing.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I think you have to take a little. Well, I'm gonna make you take a little credit for that, though, because I think it's. To have someone that you look up to who sets that tone in those years. I mean, this show was so popular. It could have gone another way.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah, I got it.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Could have. And I think that. I think she looked up to you as, like, how to behave and how to. I mean, listen, I wasn't with you on set, but I just assume, like, if. If she is as wonderful as you say she is, I have to believe that that partly came from the way you helped.

[Teri Hatcher]

I don't know, but I hope so. And I'm just so. We have so much fun recording the thing together. And yeah, I kind of joke with my daughter. I'm like, yeah, the way I get to see you consistently is by roping.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You into a podcast, hire you as a co host. Yeah, I think it's great now for a quick break, but don't go away. After the break, Terry talks about getting her start by reluctantly going to an open call for the Love Boat. And we get into her new foray into standup comedy. Okay, be right back. I love Halloween. Give me pumpkins, costumes, a haunted house, candy corn. I want it. I'm all in for the fun. Kind of scary, but the real life kind. No, that's not my vibe. I recently saw a video of an arsonist trying to set a family's home on fire. It was absolutely terrifying. What stopped it was SimpliSafe. Their AI powered cameras stopped the threat right away. And live monitoring agents jumped in, talking to him through the system, setting off alarms, even alerting the police before the fire could spread. That's what makes Simplisafe different. See, most systems only react after someone's already inside or once a fire has spread. SimpliSafe helps stop the crime before it even starts. And for me, knowing Justin and the kids are protected when I'm away, it makes all the difference. There are no contracts, no hidden fees, and monitoring starts at about a dollar a day. Plus there's a 60 day money back guarantee. Right now my listeners can save 50% off a new SimpliSafe [e-mail] Jesse that's simplisafe.com Jesse there's no safe like Simplisafe. Vacation season is nearly upon us and this year, you know, I'm treating myself to luxe upgrades that I deserve with Quince's high quality travel essentials at fair prices. Think lightweight loungewear that's perfect for those long haul flights or premium luggage options. The best part? All Quince Items are priced 50 to 80% less than similar brands. And by partnering directly with top factories, Quints cuts out the costs of the middleman and passes the savings on to us. And Quintz only works with factories that use safe, ethical and responsible manufacturing practices and premium fabrics and finishes. I just love that. I've been eyeing their expandable Carry on hard shell suitcase which comes in four sizes and a bunch of colors. It's just so nice to be able to get an extra Inch of packing space in if I need it. I love options. I also just had a tab open for the Nappa leather duffel bag, which for under $200 feels like a steal. For your next trip, treat yourself to luxe upgrades you deserve from quints. Go to quints.com JTF for 365 day returns plus free shipping on your order. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E.com JTF to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com JTF.

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[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And we're back with more dinners on me. I, I actually I, when I was looking at your credits, the one show I was like, that really stuck out that I was like, I, I wonder if there's any stories that you remember it from shooting Love Boat. That's the last thing you were thinking. I was gonna say I loved Love Boat so much.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. So the Love Boat for their last season did this big promotional thing of where they went to all the major cities and they did auditions for these. I think it was eight dancing girls that they were calling the Mermaids. So it was a Strictly Dancing thing. And my girlfriend wanted to go. I didn't want to go, but she didn't want to go by herself. So I went with her. And then I ended up winning in San Francisco. I mean, the odds of me getting this job are just ridiculous.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And how many were they looking for?

[Teri Hatcher]

Eight.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Okay.

[Teri Hatcher]

And I think probably over the whole country, I don't know, upwards of 5,000 people sounds like it auditioned maybe more. And so that's what I'm saying. The idea that I was one of the eight was just so silly. But so I ended up getting chosen. I think it was SAG scale, which was maybe like $1,200 a week, which was more money than my mom ever made. 25 years at her job, you know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

How old are you?

[Teri Hatcher]

21. Ish. Yeah. And so, yeah, I got an agent and then I just. And then I went on to like doing guest stars and then I did a pilot and then my first movie was the big picture.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right.

[Teri Hatcher]

And it was very. It was a weird career where, like, every. Every month I'd go, okay, I guess I should go back to college now. Like, Or I would get a job as a waitress at some Italian restaurant in Studio City. And then I'd still be on, like, a soap opera or something, but I'd still be a waitress. Because I just. It really wasn't until Lois and Clark. And this is even after the big picture and after a couple of these movies, I think, like, Tango and Cash and Soap Dish, whatever. It really wasn't until Lois and Clark that I was like, okay, I think I'm having a career.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right.

[Teri Hatcher]

And I'm gonna start to, like, approach it that way.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

And not every other day be going, I guess I should leave now.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right? Did you have someone who was advocating for you where you feel like you were making more money as you were going along, or was it the type of thing that you really sort of felt like because you're talking about, like, having to wait tables while you're doing it. Did it feel like that was necessary or just as, like, a safety net?

[Teri Hatcher]

Well, I have always felt like. I mean, I didn't grow up with a ton of money. And I feel like I grew up with parents that were always worried about money because they came from the, you know, the Depression. And, you know, they grew up with way less than even than I grew up with. And I think it was just. That's just part of, you know, I think, like, oh, my. Someone's just gonna take all the money and then it'll be gone. And, like, I can't say that it's something I've been able to relax about. Like, I'm pretty. Like, my cars are all 14 years old. You know, like, I've lived in the Same House for 25 years. And, you know, this business, you know, you can make a lot of money for a little while, and then you can make no money for a long time.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I was having this conversation with Julia Bowen just not too long ago about, you know, just the struggle of getting the industry to sort of look at you with fresh eyes after they've known you to be one thing for 11 years or longer or, you.

[Teri Hatcher]

Know, I don't know if Julie feels this way. I think. I think for women, it's even harder, I think, which I'm actually looking forward to this, like, the. Especially if you're known. I mean, not necessarily that I felt this way, but when you're known for being, like, quote, unquote, pretty or whatever.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You 100% were known for being this way.

[Teri Hatcher]

I'm gonna say it, okay. And then you get older. And I have chosen to go the route of, like, not doing a facelift. And I don't do Botox, and I don't do fillers. Mostly not because I have any judgment at all for how a woman decides to age, but because it just. In the end, I think it just isn't that important to me. And I did a little short film, like, a year ago that I think is just starting to make some of the rounds. And it was like a horror sort of psychological thing. And, man, do I look like hell in it. And I sort of am excited about it. Like, I feel like it's. I'm 60 now, and I feel like it's taken this amount of time to sort of age into what might potentially be a new identity that might allow me to work in things that people wouldn't have thought of me before. And, I mean, just going back to Julie, I don't know if she feels that way, because I do think people tend to want to hang on to what you were. I mean, you saw Brooke Shields, had that whole book about. Brooke Shields is not allowed to age.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

And it is like, people. You kind of can't win. You either do too much, and people go, oh, look at how sad that is for you, that you're still trying to look young, or you do nothing. And they go, man, you didn't do well. You know, and there's just. No. There doesn't seem to be a space where you can succeed, except, by the way, inside. And that is what I concentrate on. And so I'm excited that there's some chapter in my work that hasn't revealed itself to me yet, but I can kind of feel it. It's. I feel like it's getting closer.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. I hope it is.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I mean, I think that you've thus far had such a wonderful success of, you know, finding your way through so many different facets of your career. I mean, like, I just feel like we have to remind ourselves that these. These job opportunities are possible. And, like, I do think that they are there, you know, for you. There's, you know, in this next chapter of her career, I mean.

[Teri Hatcher]

I mean, you look at, like, what Jean Smart is doing with hacks and stuff, and you think, like. And it's so inspiring. She's so amazing. She's so great. And there's other women that age and older that are having moments in movies or moments in television, and you know, I started dipping my toe into standup. And I'm writing a one woman show. And one of the reasons I feel like that is a great, great arena for aging women is because, like, nobody can stop you from getting on stage and telling your story. And whether it's in stand up rhythm or in funny storytelling rhythm, I mean, maybe no one comes. Maybe I suck, like, whatever, but. But I can do it. Like, I can. I can have 30 people in a bar and I can stand up and say things into a microphone. And it's. It's actually kind of a great comfort to feel like there is a place to tell your story.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Did you take a class to do this or did you just like, how do you get into stand up?

[Teri Hatcher]

Okay, so I guess my story with it probably starts back in maybe my mid-50s. There was a friend of mine, Nikki Levy, who has a show called Don't Tell youl Mother. And I had the opportunity. She came to say, like, do you have a funny story that you would want to get up? And she'll, like, help you write it if you need help or whatever. And I did that with her a couple of times, and it was very successful. One of the times I told a story about my average vagina.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I love how callously you just said that. Like, I was just like, I was.

[Teri Hatcher]

You know, you know, my average vagina. I have one like too many others. And that story actually happened in a super organic way that I had not been having sex in a long time. I don't date very much. And I had met a guy that I was dating, and I was thinking, like, oh, this might be leading towards where we might be intimate. And I have no idea what's happening down there because people say as you age, like, it changes and whatever. And so I thought I better go to the doctor and like, just see.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Just see what's going on.

[Teri Hatcher]

So I went to the doctor and he was doing an exam. And I was thinking, I don't really, you know, how do I. How do I ask? And I'm like, doctor, oh, and by the way, his name is Dr. Johnson. Like, no joke. It really was. And so he's like rooting around and I finally.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Just not rooting around.

[Teri Hatcher]

He was rooting around. I'm sorry, but he was. And so I finally just said to him, I was like, Dr. Johnson, does it look like a guy would have a good time in there? And he backed away. And this is not a comedy routine. Like, this is my life. And so he backed away from my body. And he looked at me and he went, terri, you have a totally average vagina. And I was like, okay, do you mean average like a C, because I'm not really a C student? Or do you mean, like, you know, anyway. And that was pass, fail, pass, fail. Right. So that was kind of the beginning of exploring how you could talk about stories that actually happened in your life in a funny way. And then I got an opportunity to do an actual stand up for Showtime. It was called Funny Women of a Certain Age. And that was like Wendy Liebman and Marsha Warfield and Carol Montgomery, like, really legit star female comedians. And so I had to write 15 minutes, which I did. And the biggest compliment I got was after I did it, I had a couple comedian friends say to me, like, who wrote that? You know, I love that. Yeah. And it was me.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I'm just so impressed. I think that stand up comedy for me would be one of the scariest things to do.

[Teri Hatcher]

I think the older you get, you just have to have a lot of grace with yourself for what you didn't do.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Well, Right.

[Teri Hatcher]

Like, I think I punished myself a lot and have punished myself a lot for, you know, even things as a child, you know what I mean? Like, this is now it's a therapy session that we're having over food. It's not dinner, it's therapy. But I think the older I've gotten, the more I've reflected on, like, you know, life is. It's a journey of opportunities to learn and experience. It's not about being happy. It's not about protecting yourself from being sad. It's not about. It's better when you win and worse when you lose. I think all those things that we're taught in our society are actually the wrong way to look at it. I think we should be looking at it as like, it's all an experience. It's all of it. And that's the miracle that you get to do that at all. And so that kind of thinking sort of takes away the failure lens, you know, the oh, you're gonna bomb lens. I guess in regards to what you were saying about fear, it's not so much the fear of, like, being in front of the audience and failing. Actually, when I'm writing, sometimes I can get very caught up in. Nobody wants to hear this. Everything I have to say is stupid. Like, you know, nothing I'm saying is clever or funny or whatever. Like the critic voice comes in at that stage. I think by the time I actually get in front of people, something about my internal mechanism. I can quiet that voice. It isn't till after the performance that I go, you suck.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Right, Right.

[Teri Hatcher]

But, like, when I'm in the performance.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I think I'm the same way.

[Teri Hatcher]

I'm in the performance.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I think that's the gift of being someone who has done live theater. You have to turn that off or else you can't survive the 85 minutes of the show.

[Teri Hatcher]

You can't be editing yourself as you're doing it. Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

100%. No. I think that is the gift that theater actors bring to their work, is that they can quiet it or else there's just. There's no way of getting through it.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Right.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

So, I mean, I really relate to that. For sure. You were an only child, right?

[Teri Hatcher]

I was. Am. I am.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

You am. And are your parents still around?

[Teri Hatcher]

They are. I mean, this is actually a major part of my life right now and another place that I put food into my life. So I started on Instagram doing these little series called the Sandwich Series, where I make gourmet sandwiches in my kitchen while I talk about what it's like to feel sandwiched by your parents.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I've been feeling this so much.

[Teri Hatcher]

Yeah. So both my parents are 90. My dad has dementia. My mom is in really bad physical shape, but also just a super independent sort of, like, pushes back, which actually almost makes it even more difficult because she should be accepting help that she. And then things happen and then she ends up in the hospital and then, you know, whatever. And, yeah, that's been like three years full on for me. And so I'm finding this community that I've been creating on my Instagram with the sandwich thing of people. Yeah. So many people are feeling this way.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

And explain what that is, because I think someone told me what a sandwich. And it was like, I had never heard it broken down that way. And it made so much sense when it was explained to me.

[Teri Hatcher]

I think it's the idea that you, as a parent of your own children, would arrive in your mid-50s or early 60s, and you would be kind of at the first point in your life where you'd be like, and now I can make my life about me. Like, I've gotten my kids taken care of, and now I'm going to pay attention to me. And then you get to do that for like four minutes. And then your parents get sick, and then your children move back home or, you know, it's a tough place to be in your 20s right now, the world. And so many of those kids are struggling, and so that has still continued to be a part of people's lives. But you can feel sandwiched by the world, by the news, by your bank account, by your job. And it's that idea that the things that are outside of you are squishing the part of you that needs to take care of yourself.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah.

[Teri Hatcher]

The thing about the children and your children that I always said to parents was that parenting isn't a sprint, it's a marathon. And there's so much room for forgiveness, you know, of, like, you know, trying to hold yourself to some standard where you're gonna be fully playful and fully energetic and fully full of stories, like, every minute of every day, never going off to work is just super unrealistic. And once you kind of give in to that, there's actually, I think, some studies that show there's something to be gained by being honest in front of our children. Because when you're not, when you try to be, like, so super dad who can do it all, and nothing ever goes wrong, there is some sort of unconscious pressure that they're seeing, oh, I should be able to do it all, all the time, and I should never have any needs, and nothing should go wrong. And so if they see you asking for help, if they see you saying, you know what, usually I'm capable of more, but today, this is all I'm capable of, and that's gonna have to be enough. It's actually an okay message because what it's telling them is it's okay for them to feel that way. Right. Instead of holding themselves to some standard that they'll never be able to. So it's like in our strive to be perfect, we're actually making a mistake, Right?

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. It's all such great advice. I mean, I really honestly wish that I had discovered that you were doing this, you know, a year ago. I think it would have been a really lovely community to be a part of. I think it's that that advice really helps so many people.

[Yvette (restaurant owner/host)]

Yeah.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

That concept of this sandwich parent and. Yeah, I think it's really lovely.

[Teri Hatcher]

Oh, thanks.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

Yeah. Oh, my gosh. I'm so happy you did it.

[Teri Hatcher]

So nice. And what a great meal. I loved this water. Delicious, too. No, this was fantastic. And thank you for having me. It was so good to see you. We should cook together sometimes.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

I would love that.

[Teri Hatcher]

You know.

[Jesse Tyler Ferguson]

This episode of Dinners on Me was recorded at Aunt Yvette's kitchen in Eagle Rock, Los Angeles, next week on Dinners on Me. You know her from the West Wing. I, Tonya the diplomat and Palm Royale. It's Alice and Janney. Alison will tell me about one of the places she felt like a rock star during the West Wing. And we'll go behind the scenes on her iconic Oscar winning role in I, Tonya. And if you don't want to wait until next week to listen, you can download that episode right now by subscribing to Dinners On Me. As a subscriber, not only do you get access to new episodes one week early, you'll also be able to listen completely ad free. Just click Try free at the top of the Dinners on Me show page on Apple Podcasts to start your free trial today. Dinners On Me is a production of Sony Music Entertainment and a kid named Beckett Productions. It's hosted by me, Jesse Tyler Ferguson. It's executive produced by me and Jonathan Hirsch. Our showrunner is Joanna Clay. Our associate producer is Alyssa Midcalf. Sam Baer engineered this episode, Hansdale. She composed our theme music. Our head of production is Sammy Allison. Special thanks to Tameka Balance Kolasny and Justin Makita. I'm Jesse Tyler Ferguson. Join me next week. All right. Craving something sweet? I'm always craving something sweet. Boar's Head just launched their new Greek Yogurt Dessert dip collection and I have to say it's become a bit of a hit at my house. There are three flavors, cinnamon, churro, chocolate, espresso and key lime. And they're all made with creamy wholesome Greek yogurt blended with premium dessert ingredients so you get that rich, craveable taste. But they're low in fat, gluten free, and packed with probiotics. Basically indulgence with a little bit of balance built in. As a parent, I can't always go the cake and ice cream route, though Beckett and Sully would certainly love that. Sometimes I have to get creative. I've actually been known to trick them into thinking certain things are dessert. But with these dips, there's no trick. It's the best of both worlds. I've been using them with fruits, pretzels. Sometimes I just eat it by the spoonful and it feels like that kind of treat you actually want every day. You'll find the new Boar's Head Greek Yogurt Dessert Dip collection in the deli alongside your other dips and spreads from Boar's Head. Better snacking, smarter indulgence. Boar's Head, committed to craft since 1905.