In this episode, Caitlin is joined by special guest Marisa and they dive into the intersections of neurodivergence, gender identity, and sexuality, shedding light on the unique perspectives and challenges faced by both their clients and themselves. They discuss the pathologisation of differences, the importance of authenticity, and the complexities of societal acceptance for neurodiverse individuals. The conversation highlights the negative impact of shame and normativity in workplaces and society, advocating for a more accepting and forgiving majority to promote diverse and authentic ways of being and living.

Caitlin and Marisa share their experiences of feeling out of place in their social contexts growing up and explain how social systems shaped their perspectives. They emphasise the importance of finding congruence between one's inner self and outer presentation and the value of being recognised and accepted for one's true identity. Both discuss their personal journeys toward embracing their authentic selves, with Marisa highlighting the Butoh dance form as a pivotal moment in self-discovery and Caitlin reflecting on their own process of embodied self-discovery.

Marisa works as an artist-writer, academic and psychotherapist. They occupy a bodymind which was late-diagnosed twice-exceptional (autistic and gifted), and agender. They are interested in the ways that dominant visual, social and economic systems change the ways in which we relate to our inner landscape, and to each other. They particularly enjoy working with people who are interfacing with new and emerging problems that come with this contemporary age. Their work can be found at www.full-saturation.com which is populated with slow writing about aesthetic engagement under capitalism.

For more information about our podcast host check out the links below:

Caitlin Hughes

Cathartic Collaborations

https://catharticcollaborations.com.au/

Social media: @cathartic.collaborations